Ep 74: Plush’s Flesh & Fantasy Ball - Kat Does P0rn (Boy, Was It Worth the Wait)

Find us at vanilla swingers.com and you'll find Kat's only fans page there too. You wish. Hey Kat. Yeah Leo. I'm going to record one of those silly disclaimers that you put at the beginning of the podcast. Real advisory sticker. Let's go because this is going to be explicit. Oh yeah we're going to talk about lots of sex. Lots of bad language. We might even have sex on the podcast. We might have. Listening to the noise of our love making. There might be nudity. But you can't see it on the podcast. Doesn't matter. You can hear it. You can hear the nudity. We might corrupt you if you're under the age of 18. That's the disclaimer. Don't listen. We're not professional. What else? And yeah we're not professionals. We know nothing. Absolutely nothing. And if you want to try to sue us? Well we don't have any money either. Because this is bite-size and commercial free. We're not trying to make any money. It's fun. So if you like it then tune in on this one. Word. Alive. It's alive. It's alive. You're back. She's back. Invisible man. Sleeping in your bed. Who you gonna call? Cat's back. You got your mojo back. I got my mojo back in time for holidays. You got your mojo back. I got my mojo back in time for Halloween. Yeah. This is our Halloween edition. This is Halloween. This is Halloween. This is Halloween. Halloween. It's not Halloween yet. It is. If we're going to a Halloween ball tomorrow. We are in the festivity. We went to a Halloween ball last weekend. Mm-hmm. And we went to Rocky Horror. You're wet. I think perhaps you better both come and sing. Let's do the time warp again. It's just a jump to the left. We went to Rocky Horror with Pusher. It was a total last minute. Hey, what are you doing Thursday night? It's the only night that the San Francisco Oasis has not sold out tickets. I think that Rocky Horror was way ahead of its time back in the 70s when it came out being as risqué as it was. So I think it's apropos that it's in San Francisco. It's right at home. And it wasn't just a production, a live production where we're watching in seats. There was no seating. The audience members were interactive. We danced the whole time. It was a really fantastic show. And I'm so glad she said yes. And that's one of the things that we love about her is that she does say yes. Which we like people that say yes because I have told Leo no only four times now. And I still remember all four of them. Have I said no since then? Am I doing pretty good? It was just when we were trying to be part of the Mile High Club and I jiggled the lock. You rang. We would have had a quickie. I don't want none of that. Go away. Go away. We're still going to do that one of these times. Maybe part of that Mile High Club charter flight that they do in Vegas. Yes. No, don't give him a plug. After Rocky Horror and like we drank some black margaritas. Super super fun. What the hell was in that by the way? Because your tongue turned totally black. I know. I think my lips were blue. I took a few videos of us doing the time warp. You had some bad circulation going. Frank and Furner himself. Okay. Yay, Kat. Well, you know, it was a little bit like the Disco show in Vegas where you become part of the show. And I think it's by design. So every time we were standing there in the middle of the room. Minding our own damn business. They would plop down right in front of us like on the couch and we'd have to move out of the way. They would invade our space. And then I'm like, well, if you're going to invade my space, I'm going to take a little selfie, video action and invade your space. In the best possible way. Yes. So after that we headed back and had a little Trist at a hotel. It was a janky hotel. It was janky. And none of us could stay the night. So it was literally one of those Swinger hotel romps that last. Was it a little too booty call-ish? It was such a booty call. Oh my God, plus a we are all terrible. We all had to pack it up by midnight. The pumpkin was going to turn on the way to seeing her. We stopped by the post office and we picked up a box from the awards from the ASN awards for the best podcast of the year award. They sent us hardware. What you talking about with it? Well, let's not start sucking each other's dicks quite yet. And so we thought what better way than to open it with our thrupple. And so we did. They sent us all this other stuff like a hat and they had all kinds of swag in there. And now we put it in our million box and we'll never see it again. Oh my God, we have to find someone who's going to be the keeper of Kat and Leo's sus. You mean somebody that they call if we ever go down in a plane. Are you the gatekeeper? And they're going to go in and dispose of that. We do have family. We do have children and it's going to be really bad. It's bad. How would you feel? You have a trophy. If you woke up one day and you found out that your parents were swingers. I think I'd feel the same way as if I woke up and they were like the Incredibles. You know, Elastigirl and Mr. Incredible. I think it'd be more along the lines of if you found out your parents were villains. Hi, I'm Jackie. Want to play? Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice. Here's Johnny. I don't think you'd be a superhero. I'm Maleficent. So while we're seeing Hoseg, Hoseg, Elor, why do you make that name? I can't even say it because Sean Connery was a Scottish panty drop. But am I able to do a Scottish accent? Like he's saying pushy. I don't do accents well. Well, you would if you had peak Sean Connery. I would if I had a Scottish guy in the bedroom. I love accents. You do. Oh my God. It could be Irish. It could be British. We haven't had an Aussie accent in the bedroom yet. Oh God, if you're Aussie and you're hot. Nitro's the most powerful after-daisy actor you've tried in accent. Slide into my DMs. Are those the only requirements, Kat? Yes, I need a cute face. I thought you were going to do something that was way too far afield. I already said it's got to pop up between my legs. It's kind of like the way it looks. You like a guy that likes going down on you. And I will go down on you in kind. Yeah, that's true. We will reciprocate. We've said it before. You're one of those who can flip on their back and just take it all. Yeah. And you've been practicing that deep throat on other people recently. So yeah. So while we saw her, I was still deep, deep, deep in the middle of an MFM drill. Emphasis on deep. Is that where we're going here? I was very shallow at the time of it. And so I found this new sexting guy because I was getting tired of the apps. I thought, you know what? They can't find someone in person. I'm going to get a sexting guy. Yeah, you feel like it fills in that gap. It does. It gives me carnal energy. And especially when we're having an MFF, it brings that male carnal energy into the bedroom. I spent like an hour sexting him the night before and he was all ready to join us virtually. And I'm strangely okay with it. And of course I know. I keep it under wraps though. I don't send news. I'm in the middle of an MFF. So I've got to be okay with it. I mean, I do keep it classy. Although you did tell me recently that you connected with some guy who had a foot fetish. You sent him a picture of your feet. Trick or treat. Smell my feet. Give me something good to eat. I told Kat whatever comes to sending pictures, she's got to clear it with me. I did. I sent him a photo of my feet. I said, what do you think of these feet? And he said, I want to suck your stinky toe. What the segment? Oh, that's awful. There's some guy out there waking it to your feet. Wait a minute. Who are you? So I made it disappear. Okay. And then yeah, we went back and forth and I said, you know, I've never encountered someone really in real life with a foot fetish. How does that work? What do you do with my feet? He actually said your stinky feet. Oh God. He said the stinky between your toes. He said do you like the toe jam? Yeah. He wanted to make sure they were stinky. He didn't want them clean. Toe cheese. That's just awesome. I mean, my feet are always pretty clean, but I do walk around barefoot all the time. I have an image in my head of what he looks like and I'm sure I'm spot on. Yeah, you really are. I finally disconnected because I was like, you know, jump scare. Kind of out, but I was fast. He said, if you were given a foot job, I said, I have stroked some cocks with my feet. I'm prone to do that in the power exchange. I did it with a surfer boy as well. You didn't really stroke it. He just sort of wanted to put it on there. And I said, don't come on my foot. That is just not our proudest. That is peak cat speak. Well, you know, we're going to talk about that in this episode a little bit. What again, about that idea of as you go through your journey as a newbie, you will continuously keep pulling up your drawbridge and things you used to do. You probably no longer do it. You'll look back and think, yeah, that wasn't my proudest one. I'm thinking, what the hell are you talking about? So that was the basis of kicking off Halloween season for us going to Rocky Horror. And then we had another planned get together with Hosea Galore because it's getting pretty serious. About a week and a half or so later, she was planning to go to our home town. We've lost count the amount of times that we've seen her. But I was feeling a little bum like the number of unicorn MFF encounters we've had. And Leo's column. Yes, it's getting uncomfortable. It was getting he was actually feeling very guilty. And I'll even be in the middle of talking during an MFF and I'll say something. Yeah, you actually told her, you know, Kat just had something fall through right now. I was really bummed about my sexting dude. So yeah, so I had the sexting dude who was going to show up. But you got your mojo back. So why are we talking like that? Because I'm trying to set the stage for why we ended up on a road trip to SoCal. Although we are going to see her on New Year's. Yes, that's going to be exciting. I think that it's a lot of illuminati great Gatsby style. When you have a situation ship that's getting really serious, it takes on a very friendly experience where it's so much about the spaces in between. And I can't think of many spaces in between that are more poignant than New Year's. Three, two, one. With a friend. Because we spent last New Year's at Scarlet Ranch. That was our only second time at the ranch. We're back. We're going to the ranch tomorrow night. We'll get to that in a moment. But I wanted to say why we ended up on a five hour road trip to SoCal. I was the first person to broach it. I said, what do you think about if we put off Poocher? We canceled. We postponed. We never do. It was our last free entire weekend before we get very busy in vanilla life at the end of the year. We are the kind of couple that if we say we're going to be someplace, 99% of the time we're going to be there. We're never going to leave someone hanging at a bar. We're never going to leave someone hanging in a chat. I'm going to close that chat. I'm going to heart your message. I don't leave people hanging ever. And even when we broached it to Poocher, we actually said, We asked her permission. It was open-ended to say, would that be okay with you? And she was very gracious and said, I totally, because she empathizes with my MFM drought. Yeah, she was fantastic. I think I was like 10 weeks in at this point. And she completely empathized. And at the end of it, I did text her to say, you know, I want to thank you again for allowing me this because it was absolute salve for my soul. Well, there's a symbiotic relationship going on here. I'm sharing you. And she's very appreciative of you. And she said, go down to SoCal and go get your MFM. Get your MFM back. So, road trip. So we ended up down in SoCal for no other reason than we feel the guys on field were pretty damn good. And we didn't really have a good crack at it. The last trip. Cat-fucked porn boy. Say what? Get down on it. Get down on it. There I said it. It's on it. This buildup is just too much. Yay. I got porn boy guys. You are a porn star. Okay, you are a porn star. Does that officially make you a porn star? Listen, listen. If you sleep with a porn star, I think it kind of does. It does because you took video. So now I'm a porn star. Yeah, I did film you. Let me just tell you the TLDR. I should have my head again. We did not go down there expecting him at all because he's been pretty flaky. We actually had three other possibilities. One was a sure thing. Yeah, we had about four irons in the fire and he was at the bottom of the deck. Just because of flakiness. We do say that in the lifestyle, so much of the lifestyle is about luck and randomness. And he ended up going from worst to first, which I know is not saying it correctly because he was really your first choice. He was always my first choice. Firework. Everybody wants to know that I've told already in real life. Everybody who listens to the pod knows damn well that he was. It's been like the porn boys saga. It's been like four months, but everybody has asked was it worth it? Was he as good as expected? Oh my God. It was better than expected and it was a thousand times worth of weight. Cats bullshitting over here talking like that. You just want to be like, wee. It was so, so good. Cat was walking on a cushion of air for at least a few days. But we need to back it up again. Because SoCal was so good to us in so many ways. It was absolute salve for our soul just all around. We love L.A. We went over the first trip, but we went over because we were doing that paralysis by getting fixated and we were fixated on porn boy. You cockblock me two nights in a row and then two nights in a row, he decided he couldn't get out. I don't know why you keep holding my feet to the fire like I cockblocked it. I explained why it wasn't so much a cockblock as let's put it off till tomorrow. I think I was trying to say that so my listeners don't think he's so damn flaky. He left cat hanging for an entire weekend. No, he was talking to you though. It's not like he's leaving you on red. So we roll in Friday and the five hour car trip is actually easier than flying to Denver. Yeah, we've decided that as we're sitting here dying in a parked car in the mall of America. Whatever. I'm surprised malls are still at that. I am too. They threw all this money. They made these fantastic malls and all this Amazon and they're dead. She in. I don't need nothing else. There's not those third spaces like this these days because you know, everybody is online. Insta. What you doing? Code speak for what you do. I like that. So we're there on Friday and we've got no plans. I had a couple irons in the fire, but no one was biting to say, Hey, you know what you doing tonight? So we decided we're going to go to Club Joy. Yeah. So we went, we've heard some mixed reviews and so much so that we went in really skeptical. Well, we do that though. That's actually kind of our normal. No, not like clubs and tell you the skinny. We love taking new adventures and doing new things. Ironically, we're also creatures of habit. And so sometimes when we first go in, we're like, show me what you got. We'll go in arms crossed. I don't know what about you. Very much a show me attitude. Yeah. And so because we'd heard mixed reviews, we didn't know what to think. I think that ultimately what we found is that it's somewhere between down home country. And bougie. And we're far from fancy. And so the people that didn't like it were all plush people. And so yeah, plush people are probably not Club Joy. There is a small faction of plush that is the look at me, look at me where the hot, the fit, hot, professional. That's in the eye of the beholder. But yes, they're clicky as all get out. And that does happen at plush. And whereas Leo is right at home in the living room with a sunken shag carpet and a fishbowl full of keys. I think it's time that we start this key party. And Club Joy is not as down home as say Red Rooster in Vegas, but it definitely has some down home country charm. I like the people that people are a bit party people. It's a bit younger crowd. Yes. And they only had maybe a hundred people and they say Saturday as it gets upwards of 400 people. I can imagine. And it's a cavernous space. But so to get there, we got to set the stage. First of all, we were also a little put off because you have to sign up as a member. You have to show photos even though they don't vet. It's a little clunky. And then part of our skepticism heading to Club Joy is that their membership entry process is really, really clunky. The most clunky part is that they require you to have a phone call with them. And you're like phone call. That's so like 2000. Come on. So we were in the middle of a pod. We were in the middle of a pod. And we were like, well, we're going to call them. I was even thinking of just recording it just to check it out when we called. Nobody answered the phone. You're like, well, that's really dumb. Then they called us back and it was this awkward just couple minute conversation where they asked us, do you know what consent is? Have you ever been to a swinger club before? And that was it. And that was it. They said, you're good. You're approved. And that was our last trip. My feeling is especially when you're catering to newbie couples, you're going to scare them off skittish. Doesn't even describe newbies. And that's not as much as humanly possible because a newbie couple is already tentative about experiencing maybe the first club. So you have to submit your photos online. You have to pay for the membership online before you even show up at their door, which is scary enough. And club joy has this added layer where you got to make a phone call. I can't imagine that most newbies who may casually decide at the last minute, hey, you want to go to a club are going to go through this process. But the TLDR for you newbies down in the LA area, it's really worth it. It's a great club. It's better than I was expecting. It's not bougie and it doesn't have ambiance like a Scarlet Ranch, but it's surprisingly good. You know, sometimes when it comes to having sexy fun, it should be a little on the skeezy side. Sometimes the bougier it is, the less sexy fun you have. That's like that's like the story of plush. Yes. In a nutshell, everybody knows plush for lots of party, very little play. And that couldn't be more than that. I could have sum up plush better than it's a party, but you will struggle to find the sexy. Whereas this one, this was less about party, way more about play. But we almost didn't make it that night. Yeah, because by the time we got to the street it was on, they had blocked off with barricades for like a 20 block radius. Like 20 police cars. We thought we thought there was a shootout. L.A. is going to do L.A. It's a little bit of a rough neighborhood. We almost gave up, but we called the club and said, I can't get to you. I cannot cross the street to get to you. I thought about just running the barrier. I thought maybe cat would jump out of the car, move it aside. I'll dart across. Police, freeze. Leo's going to end up in jail instead of club joy. I'm going to be tackled in front of club joy. Although speaking of jail, there is this funniest, funniest field profile of a single dude and it's him with a girl on the other side of like the plexiglass in the jail cell. Yeah, that's a great. I actually took a screenshot of it because I'm like, God, you've got the most amazing sense of humor. That and he's trouble. And it was her in jail. So it was okay. He was visiting the girl. Yeah, she was actually pretty hot. I think we could fix her. Yeah, we take her. We're not going to go into a huge in depth review here, but let's try to sum it up as quick as we can. First thing it's in an old banquet hall. Even the front sign still has the old signage. It says Harris Hall and like banquet hall underneath. And you're like, it's almost like a Kiwanis club. I actually looked at the door and I'm like, am I in the right place? But it's a massive space. I want to say between 10,000, 20,000 square feet and it's huge rafters warehouse feel. It's all decorated for Halloween. Very kitschy and we love kitschy. They went through the Home Depot aisle and they bought all the Halloween decorations. It was it was like going to that haunted house that you guys all know is in your neighborhood that everybody goes to. It was like that. The dad who plugs it in to an extension cord that has a different wires. Halloween, Halloween, Halloween. It was very cool. Inside. They got a dance floor. They got a lot of seating around the edges and it's really dim. They got a BYOB bar that's staffed with volunteers. It even has a margarita machine so you could bring tequila. Come on. That is so cool. I've never seen that before. It's like a slurpy machine. They got a pool table, which was actually in use and they have a really huge VIP area. I don't know the cost to VIP yourself, but some of them have cabanas with curtains that actually close. They got a couple of different locker areas. I think they number about 200 lockers total. You got to bring your own lock. Then you go beyond the Arabian shaped window that's got beaded curtains and you go into the upstairs play area. Bring some cash. You might be able to rent a lock at the front. We didn't do it. We just stuck our stuff in like the corner of a locker with no lock because that's how we roll. The bartenders only work for tips. So make sure you tip your bartenders. We're in the upstairs playroom and what's neat is they have these 10. They look like wrap around booze at a diner. But big. Like 10 people booze. With no table and instead of a table, they've made it into a bed. So now it's the booth with a bed in it. It works. It does work. We did not play there. I don't think I saw anyone play there, but it was very dead the night we went. And then the last part of the club, you go sort of through a causeway. There's these double doors. Oh my gosh. I feel like you're going into a brightly lit hospital. You feel like we're going into the delivery ward. In one of the movies where you're on the gurney and they shove it through those double doors. And then it's so brightly lit. You're like, oh my God, I'm on the surface of the sun. It's so unsexy. It's anti sexy. But once you get downstairs, it's very sexy. It's about to go down. It might have gone down for us. Oh yeah. Well, first of all, as we're taking the tour, which by the way, a nice touch was when we got there, unprompted, somebody came over to give us a tour of the club, which is always lovely when you're a newbie at a club. Because now we felt totally at ease. We knew where everything was. Yeah. We've been to like 35 clubs and still it's a nice touch, even for us. So if you're a newbie couple, ask at the front desk. It can make all the difference. This is a funny little wrinkle before you go into the brightly lit causeway that looks like a hospital ward out of the walking dead. You have to put your drinks down on this table. So Leo and I put our champagne down. I'm like, this is where I get Rufi, doesn't it? And there's like a guard sitting there security. And so I asked him, you're here to watch our drinks and take care of us. Aren't you? And he said, yeah, that was sort of his job. He was holding the doors for couples coming in and going. He was, I think, kind of guarding the drinks because we're not allowed to bring drinks into the playroom. Because I didn't think that was a very good idea. I didn't either. I didn't either. Anyway, we go down and below they have this, it's not even a quad bed like the Scarlet. It's two beds back to back. It's massive, but it's in the center of the room. And it has no risers. Okay. So you can kind of go between the beds more. There's bench seating, like leather seating attached to it on all sides. And so it's very welcoming to do play in the center of the room. So if like hypothetically, we were to be having a threesome in the middle of the group bed, there could hypothetically be another couple on one of these leather benches. That sounded oddly specific. Getting a blow job at the same time. And it just worked really well. And then what surrounds this center play area are private rooms. Oh, and leather couches all over for voyeurs and more play on the couch. I think there were about five private rooms and they were pretty well appointed. One of them has a round bed. I did not see that one. One has three beds, caddy corner to each other. We're going to be back. We are going to be back because we've decided LA is our new Denver now. Well, tell you why, because just like Denver that we're sitting here today, when we got here, the Scarlet Ranch was really the conduit that established a beachhead for us in Denver. And also it was the conduit for us moving from an exclusive threple with Lana to now we've broken it wide open for our double helix of MFMs, MFFs. We needed Denver. And so it was really the club where everything else orbited around. And it's been fantastic. Because if you come to Denver for us, for instance, we may have something lined up. We may have something pretty nebulous. But at the end of the day, we always knew we'll go to the nights. We're probably going to go to the ranch. We didn't have that in LA because the plush parties don't happen that often. Now there's club joy any weekend we want to go. It makes a decent anchor to your trip. And Leo hates road trips, but he has realized a five hour road trip is easier for us and more fun than flying two and a half hours to Denver with all the checking in, getting there two hours early. I think I was told we tallied it up to eight hours that we were traveling. And of course, I don't pay for us to sit together. So Leo is sitting four rows in front of me. I'm a prickly pear. At the other day, I love being with Kat just because I don't like to be apart from you. I don't want to go down in a plane crash. Remember, it was really turbulent on the way in over the Rockies. It's always the first time we came to Denver. It was rocking. Yeah. And I don't want the love of my life to be five rows away from me and I'm having a crawl over the seats just so I could get one last roll in the hay before we go down. Some road head. I'm going to call that road soda though. See road soda. But it's not so fun. Somebody told us they had a road soda, but I don't think that that's really what they meant. Well, I'm going to call road soda road head. It was an alcoholic beverage. I think it's a creamy road head and we might have finished our LA trip with that. Oh yeah, we did do that. That was pretty odd. So as Kat and I are busting through the double doors, like high noon at the OK Corral. She looks over at me. There's a lot of unicorns there. So I will say that it's a couples only and single females only club. There were quite a few single ladies and they seem to be receptive to what we were selling, even though we weren't really selling anything at that time. We kept going out into the lobby to check our damn phone for either porn boy or we had this tattoo boy who we thought was kind of in rotation. And Kat says to me, if I have to see another unicorn tonight, I'm going to break out in hot. I said, I'm allergic to MFFs right now, honey. I'm allergic. Okay. And so you said, all right, I'll stand out. I said, I'm not going to talk with any of them in the club. We're not doing it tonight is your night. I was just basically telling you, if I can't have an MFF tonight, then you ain't having an MFF. No way. No, how? Oops, we did it again. Okay. Okay. I said yes. I it was really good. Yeah, it was really good undergrad. We're going to call her undergrad. Yeah. But how did we get here? Kat went from no to yes. We were upstairs around the dance floor. And at one point the DJ gets on the mic and says, we're going to have a stripper dance. A costume contest. It was like Emo night. Who's wearing black? I was wearing a black dress. They tried to wrote me in. I said, no, they called up about a dozen gals and each of them get about a minute to show their stuff. And then the crowd's going to vote on who wins. And so we're just mildly watching because we're kind of waiting to see if one of my MFFs that are in my phone are going to pan out. And then up walks one. She can only be described as Wisconsin's little sister. That's a great description. Isn't it? She looks so much like Mrs. Wisconsin. And people don't know what Wisconsin looks like. She's a smoke show. But she's pretty next level. She looked a lot like Wisconsin. Her face, she looked like they were sisters. She's Wisconsin's younger sister. And so we had our eye on her because she was quite attractive and she seems so innocent. I told you when she's doing her strip off, I don't think she's going to take her top off. She was wearing a fairly conservative looking dress and then she ended up full on naked. The DJ asked her before she started, are you a virgin? I know, right? That's kind of what she was putting off into the world. And she gave a little evil laugh. And he also asked her, are you a unicorn? And she said, I'll be unicorn tonight. I told you there's no way she's not here with somebody or a group of people. Right. We assumed where's her guy, right? And so at the end, crowd cheers and she wins the whole damn thing. And it wasn't even close because she looked like a ringer. If I didn't know better, I would have thought she was a stripper, but I think she had some kind of like dance background. Yes, because she was kind of little innocent. She was such a ringer. She was all over the floor dancing so much so that the other girls, they didn't even try. They just danced for about 30 seconds and then said, I'll just give it to her. But again, I was in a allergic to MFF mode at the moment. So we're like, I ain't going to shoot my shot. But you know, we're not the kind of people. We're not going to just rush in there and try to inveigle. If she's there with somebody, we're just going to hang back. We ended up downstairs in the playroom. We weren't playing. We were just kind of walking around. We were not probably planning to play. I did open her. I wanted to congratulate her for winning. You asked her, what did she win? I asked her, yeah. And she told me something in Vegas. And then you went to the bathroom and she followed you. And I told you, I think she was looking for you. So then I, he said, hurry back out. So I hurried back out. I was probably checking my damn phone in the stall again. I'm still thinking MFF and she comes right up to us and starts chatting. We're having a conversation. The next thing you know, she's a unicorn. She is there by herself. It boggles my mind that nobody approached her and tried to smooth the end. And so she intimates that she's there for college. She's an undergrad. She'd been to the club once before. And we were vibing. And then at the end, she shot her shot. She said, she looks to her left. She looks to her right. And then she looks at us and says, so what are you guys looking for? And so I answered, I was about to say something else. And then I stopped myself and I said, you, yeah, we're looking for you. And that's all it took. She said, okay, you want to play in a private room or group bed? She said, I'm an exhibitionist. Okay, we're on. But there's a wrinkle to all of this. The wrinkle was that her carriage was going to turn into a pumpkin at midnight. She had an Uber call. And for some reason she didn't want to change it. She said, I have a half an hour. And we said, do you still want to play? She said, yes. So we shucked our clothes off so fast. It suddenly became a sexual Chinese fire drill. I was actually on the bed. I'm going down on her and cat is behind me with my legs dangling out the bed. And she's pulling off my shoes. And then I'm like, I'm kind of sucking him fluffing him up while he's going down on her mentally. I'm going through my mind thinking how many positions can I put her in? Cause it's about to go down. Leo put her into as many positions as possible in that amount of time. All that was missing was the upside down 60. We should have done because it was an exhibitionist. Missed opportunity. Oh my God. We had everybody in the club watching rain check. I'm like talking to her whispering to her kissing her sucking on her breasts. And she said, I've never had an orgasm before. You know that we have a lot of experience with unicorns. Yeah. There's that moment in a club where sometimes you'll play with a unicorn that everybody in the club was looking at thinking. I would like that because she won the contest. Clearly she was the fan favorite. She owned the contest. And now she owned us for 30 minutes. Ready, set, go. Oh my God. Leo said it was the most unpleasant, pleasant experience he'd had in a hot minute. He doesn't like to be rushed at all. That was a good description. I couldn't even really envagle myself very much because I'm like, I just got to let him do what he's got to do with her. Yeah. On the one hand, it was fun as fuck. And I'm playing the long game because I know there's going to be an MFM waiting for me. But you know, occasionally you have those moments that come up where you just can't say no. And we were in mid-coital bliss and she reaches for her phone and it actually says, your Uber has arrived. We're naked. And she says, it's okay. I got five minutes. I'm inside of her. Yeah. She actually said, it's okay. And we continue on. And we gave her that orgasm. Did she say she's never had an orgasm before? Yeah. She said, what does it feel like? I think I just had one. So we get our clothes back on. She steals Leo's boxers. Yeah. When I went to go look for my clothes, I look at it. I'm missing a conspicuous article of clothing. He is going with free-balling. And you know what? That's hot. I think that's really hot if she actually walked off with my boxers. We exchanged numbers, exchanged instances. Then we check our phone. We got reverse memento boxed for the first time. And guess who's in our phone? Hornboy. Hey, what are you doing? I'm nearby your hotel. We're on that center bed in the basement of Club Joy. And we then proceed to get dressed like a Chinese file. Oh my God. Can you imagine how fast I grabbed my stockings? We ran out of the club. Ran to our car. Got on the highway. And we're barreling down the highway. And because the Dodgers had just won the NLS. They had all of this police presence anticipating celebrations. And Hornboy is in the parking lot at the hotel. They were like, just wait for us. Wait. Very unexpected. And there's two police cars in front of us on the highway going two miles an hour. Like they're in the white Bronco OJ chase. We absolutely could not make this up. We're like, LA is doing LA. It took us quite some time to get back. In the meantime, he has intimated, I'm actually not near your hotel. I'm at a friend's house. I'm in traffic as well. Fast forward. You get the text. I'm at the door. And it's about to go down. Down it went and it was so, so fantastic. He's a wonderful person. Well, first of all, he is a pretty fantastic guy. He's from the Midwest and he has that Midwestern sense of ability. I know you guys all think porn stars, right? He is just a genuinely nice guy with some soft energy. I liked him so much. He's in his twenties. He looks like he's barely 20 because of that baby face. That's his moneymaker. And he says he doesn't do this as often as he'd like because he's in the business of sex. And so he doesn't have these. The real moments where you've got a girl there that's just wanting to be there, not doing it for the gram, not doing it for OF. And so Leo took some video of us, right? And there was one particular moment. Hold up. Wait a minute. Something ain't right. Hold on a second. Let me stop you there. Hold on. Wait a second. I think we've determined that from this experience and looking back at some of the more recent experiences, and especially because we've now gone from soft to full. And this is post 69 episode. And I am so glad it was post 69. And I'm so glad we waited as long as we did because I think you were more ready to just kind of let things go organically. We said that the amount of near misses that you've had on this 11 week drought, you cannot make up the crazy things that happened to not make those MFMs happen. Like porn boy, the original Ofer was only two weeks after Rusky. I don't think we were ready to be as free and easy as we were at this particular time. And I think that we look back and we realize that Stuart Scott, our swing or guardian angel. Oh, yeah. He made this happen. He was making it. So those mid experiences did not happen post full swap lifestyle journey. We had another opportunity down there that we called sure thing. He was vetted by a friend of ours. We knew he was a sure thing. She said he always shows up if he says he's going to be there and inexplicably. He had car trouble. He went from worse to first and incomes. Poor boy. And the reason I say all of that, he actually went from first to worst, not worse to first. I can't keep track of what the hell I'm saying. I don't even listen to myself. I didn't get sure thing. I got porn boy. The best thing. Oh, God, it was so good. But the reason I say all of that is to say, looking back now, I realized that as we transition to full swap, what we're looking for is exceptional experiences. Leo feels like he can give me the keys to the kingdom and an MFM. You mean somebody else? The keys to the kingdom. Yes. And be happy about it. If he is an exceptional guy, we're looking for an exceptional single male. And when that happens, I've told you all lights will be green. I will move heaven and earth to make sure it's as full-throated experiences. You can possibly have. Yeah, that might have happened. That might have happened. It's like a magic trick. I'm making that disappear. And so you got porn boy. I know how much you've been looking forward to it. You've been playing the long game for what, four months? He's been in and out stalking you? Four months. So much so. I asked Leo, do you really think we're going to see him? He said, I 100%. I told you every single time. We're definitely going to see him. And one of the neatest things is I showed a little screenshot to Pushy Galore of kind of a little short video, Leo took of us. And she said, he just looks like he is so happy and smitten with you. Yeah. And Pushy's like, who's the cameraman? We were working you over like a McRib. It was so good. It was so good, guys. We were tag teaming. One of us would go ahead and tag the other end of the turnbuckle. I jump in, he jump in. But unfortunately, NRE doesn't last as long as it used to. Oh, we're going to talk about that. We're not going to talk about that yet, but. I think we want to talk about that a little bit. I'm one week post porn boy, not even. And the NRE has already subsided. This will be a little melancholy, but I think it's important to tell newbies who are just starting out in their lifestyle journey. This is something that's going to happen in your journey. Inevitably. It happens really with that whole swinger moon. There really is a swinger moon that lasts about two years where you were like going with your hair on fire. We've been speedrunning our way through the lifestyle, doing all kinds of crazy adventures and everything. We felt that if we're only going to have two years of a swinger moon, we are going to do everything humanly possible in two years. And we have. But we have heard it said before that after around two year mark, it starts to settle down. And this is how you start to coexist with your vanilla life. And we have realized post this experience, we all grow up. I don't think we want to admit it. No, but in the last episodes, it's been kind of creeping in that I think we're getting a little more settled in. I think we're getting out of our verbalized it lightly that I think that our swinger moon might be coming to a close. But here's why it's becoming much more crystal clear to us now. You know, you might ask, what does that mean? Are you not going to play as much? Are you not going to go to as many events? We'll do all of that. Your new relationship energy doesn't last as long. It hits differently because the more you do it, it's like taking a drug. If you take it too much, it doesn't hit the same way. You have to take more and more of it. It's going to happen to everybody at some point. And then you settle in and you embrace that wildfire of NRE because we still get it, but we only get it for a couple of days. Our first MFM complete experience, which by the way, involved the guy who didn't even take off his pants. And no oral was involved, people. It was so soft. But it was amazing. It was 20 orgasms. God, it was like white, hot lightning. And the new relationship energy lasted for easily three weeks to a month after. And he used to be on my Mount Rushmore, but I have since decided he's not on my Mount Rushmore. Well, and that's also touches on something as you go through your lifestyle journey, your standards change. You know what you want. When you start out, you don't know what you find hot. Everything sounds hot. We're touching strange genitals. It's like an all you can eat buffet at a swinger club after 2 a.m. Now, you know, I only want that one dish at that swinger buffet. For me, it's probably some ice cream with some cookies on it. Now you look at that 2 a.m. buffet and you think, let's go to Popeyes. As long as there's sweet tea, I am all for it. You drink so much sweet tea. We went through the drive-thru and you said, let's get to two. And I said, we just need one. And I said, well, then you can't have any. You're not drinking any. You understand Popeyes to me is synonymous with swinging. It's synonymous with swinging. We don't have a Popeyes near us. I drink water at home. I'm healthy. When we get on the road, when we go away, we find a Popeye. So to me, when I drink sweet tea, I'm in sexy sus mode. Speaking of fisting. I didn't say fisting. We're going to miss sweet peach. Yeah. That was a shame because that was the only time we've ever done that because she has those cute little baby buttered croissant hands. Maybe next time. I would like to see that. So the unfortunate truth is this, the NRE gets shorter. And what that means is, one, first, I wonder if we take a break, which around the holidays, we're thinking of. We have a lot of vanilla things going on, family coming into town. We can't be doing what we're doing without getting caught. We haven't taken a break in 18. So we're probably going to take a bit of a break in November, December. It's just that's kind of the way it is. Do you return to baseline a little bit so that it feels very. Your hair on fire again. Yeah. We don't know. But we'll tell you when we get there. But the thing is, is here's a little cheat code. If you want to kind of help stoke that NRE after maybe your swing or moon is coming to it, lose, play with newbies and live vicariously through their newbie NRE. Yeah, that might have happened. We really like that. We really like playing with newbies. Yeah, I think that for the foreseeable future, that's going to be our play dynamic. If we play with couples, it will only be with newbie couples. Single guys. Now, porn boy ain't no newbie, but he had a soft enough energy that he felt kind of new. Watching a newbie go through that first time NRE is a trip. Speaking of porn boy, because I like to speak of porn boy. He enjoyed my card game a lot. You'd think he does porn for a living. That's his job. He has sex. He really enjoyed my card game. It was so hot. You know, we're going to see him at the AVN. Yeah, we're going to see him in Vegas in January because we'll be at the AVN Awards and he's going to be there. You never know. I have no expectations ever of anything, but I'd love to see him again. We also realized that when we started off, one of the reasons we did the podcast in the first place, it was born out of that first MFM where we just couldn't shut up about it. And so we felt like we just got to talk and it extended the NRE even more. And it still extends the NRE, but we've realized now, if we don't capture lightning in a bottle while we're in an NRE, it's easier for us to talk and flow on the pod than it is after three, four days have settled in. The reason we got to do that is because I think we know going forward, when you're in an NRE, it's easy. You just open your mouth and everything flies out of your mouth. It's like verbal diarrhea in a sparkly way. Bruh. That sounds really awful. That's a new sentence that I didn't need to hear. Oh my gosh. That was not good. And I think we realized recording the podcast going forward, it's much easier if you have a NRE and we need to be able to just record it wherever. And so we're literally in Denver right now and we're in pre NRE. We haven't done anything yet, but just being away, drinking my sweet tea, it makes us a little bit busier. A little more buoyant, a little more high energy. Busy. So to make a long story short. Too late. He talks too much. He talks too damn much. I do talk too much. You guys are surprised that we don't have phones and we text each other all day, aren't you? I would just be, he'd be my sexting guy. If you want to hear the pod going forward, that's how we're going to capture it is live. So that we can record anywhere, anytime on the fly. Because if we wake up in the morning post-coital bliss, we are so busy with excitement. We need to capture that. And instead of worrying about the room acoustics, we've got to capture it because NRE that we have, it's much shorter. It doesn't last. We're only six days post porn boy. That's so sad. And I'm ready to get on another ride. I'm like, that's not enough for me. That's so sad. It's ridiculous. I think that's why we never wanted to speak it into the void that maybe our swing or move is coming. We wanted to admit it to ourselves that what's going on is the NRE is getting shorter and shorter. The last time we sat in this parking garage, I think that's what that means. Absolutely addicted to the lifestyle. The last time we were in this parking garage and we were recording a pod was after the MFFF the first time we were in so much NRE. And at that time we wanted to kind of massage our time in the lifestyle to say, our swing or move really one year in because we knew you only get two years. And now here we are. I don't think it matters how fast or slow you go through it. It's still two years. I think around the two year mark is about when things start to settle. So do a lot. The lifestyle is a euphemism for the NRE doesn't last as long. It's because you've been exposed to, you know, a lot of people talk about the lifestyle being one of the most incredible things they've ever discovered in life. I absolutely agree with that. We had a fun life. Like the most buzzy thing you've ever done as an adult. Boy, is it ever. And it still is. But if you ride the roller coaster a hundred times, does it hit quite the same? It helps us to be a little bit more grounded in our everyday life. You mean to find balance. Yeah, we're going to be able to find balance a lot better. I don't want to find balance. I actively reject any notion of balance. You just want another hit of this drug. I want to be a lifestyle crack hit. I want some crack. It's better. The drugs and it's better than alcohol. It is a really safe drug to be on. And we tend to do a lot less all of that in favor of playing in favor of sexy fun. I think we're in the midst of the healthiest living that we've done in years. Oh my God, are we ever the lifestyle? Except for the sweet tea. That's it. I got a sugar addiction. And our so-called adventure as fantastic and glorious as it was, there was more to our adventure. So we thought what better way to follow up undergrad porn boy than to go to a Halloween party on the same night. In fact, you know what? If we open up a swimming club, we ought to call it undergrad and porn boy. I think that's a good name. We knew flesh and fantasy ball was going on in Palm Springs. It was actually one of the Halloween balls we were looking at, but we chose Scarlet Ranch. So Leo said very last minute as we're taking this five hour road trip, bring our costumes just in case. You threw them in the suitcase. Why not? Maybe we get a review out of it. We did. We ended up barreling down to Palm Springs, a two hour drive. In addition to our five hour road trip, we did not wear our costumes. We were dressed in comfy hobo clothes. We got dressed in the parking lot. Oh my God. It was freaking hilarious. Everybody's like, where are you staying? We're like, we just drove in from LA. Cats still buzzing from porn boy NRE. Yeah, totally high on NRE. We ran into enough people that I got to all tell them, yes, who I just got. I got bored boy. I got bored boy. I've got undergrad coursing through my veins. That should have never happened. It never happened. Oh my God. That won't let me live that one down. And so we went to the plush party. It was a great way to cap off a hell of a day. That all happened in one day. And flesh and fantasy is a lot like dirty Vegas. Yeah. It has all the trappings of dirty Vegas. I mean, obviously plus they put both of them on. They have stripper poles. They've got go-go cages. It's all very similar. The setup is very similar. You go in. It's usually a great room. They've got the DJ booth. They've got the dance floor. They've got their stripper poles. And they've got a lot of people. I think it was supposed to be 1,500 people. They got the bar, a pop up bar. We could buy some drinks. I think the difference was this one, the hotel that they have it is a little more like a resort hotel. It's like a conference room, turn dance hall. And it felt a little stayed in my opinion. Yeah. I mean, it's hard to put your finger on it. First of all, is we're saying that the flesh and fantasy bowl is for some people, it's their Super Bowl. Everybody's dressed in costume. Any costume goes, which is a lot of fun. There's no theme. It's anything you want to wear. Maybe it's because we were just coming off of underground porn boy. We didn't need it. And we saw a lot of friends there. We danced. We had a couple of drinks. We had a lot of fun. It's a social fun. There are no playrooms and there are no party floors like you'd have at some hotel takeovers. Now, this one did feel like the hotel takeover was more the kind where you could maybe go back and hang out at people's rooms than dirty vagabonds. We did get invited to go to a lot of rooms. Once they heard we were driving back to LA that night, they said, well, you can come crash in our extra bit. Yeah. We're always a little wary of that because you know, does that mean that we're going to be playing or that's like a girl on the gate where the guy offers to pay for dinner. It's probably better to go Dutch. What do I owe you? You don't want to feel like you owe anybody. And we were in such an RE we didn't want to mess that up. We're like, I am happy being social. We even saw Sandra D there and she said, are we going to get to play tonight? Well, you do it. Yeah. They've got the setup where they have the logo plush party where you can take a picture with this pink lighting. It's our favorite photo is the one we took at Dirty Vegas. So we took one here and yeah, honest to goodness, it's a great photo. It's a great photo. It is such a good photo. Everybody does it. Now, one of the things is they have somebody guarding the door about bringing in any cups, any kind of. So we always get champagne. We brought a bottle from LA. We got some Perrier bottles. We poured them in in the car and people in the parking lot were saying they're really strict. So we're like, okay, I guess we need to finish our Perrier bottle on our way. I think the setup is when they rent the venue, they're committed to the venue that there's going to be a certain amount of alcohol sales. Let's say $35,000 on the night, oddly specific. I know. And if they don't hit that mark, they actually have to make up the difference to the rented venue. So business wise, we understand we did buy a drink. They're like 14 bucks a piece, but it's understandable. That's just the way you play the game. But this hotel was so spread out because it's like a resort Riviera Palm Spring style. It did feel very Palm Springs. Didn't it? I don't know what to say about that. If whatever you think of Palm Springs, it felt like that. Now we're dress up people. And what I did like a lot about it was that the majority of people dressed up. And if you didn't, you probably felt like the odd man out. Maybe 85% of people or maybe more. I like that they were a dress up crowd. In fact, the plush crowd in general, they're very much a dress up crowd. And you know what else is great about plush? Everybody was on the dance floor. It is a fun party crowd. And plush is always really cheap. Yeah. And I think that that's one of the strong suits of plush is that it's a good value. I think it cost like 200 bucks, 250 maybe tops for the whole weekend. And we just went for one day. We could have gone to the day party too. We didn't. It was like 125 bucks. But I think what encapsulates this feeling of what do we think about the plush parties? I've liked them for the party social aspect. I don't like them for the sexy fun. And part of the reason is, is because if you go as just a couple that's new to the lifestyle, you probably will experience some of that clickiness about the group that goes. And it's not that they're so clicky. It's that when you go to plush, they go to all the plush events. They just know each other. And it's not that they're excluded. You can go up and talk to anybody that you want. They're super friendly. It turns out that in the lifestyle when people do that, it's just that they're scared to death. They're clinging to each other, their friends, and they sometimes will appear to be in a click, a little bit closed off. And so if you start going through the plush universe, you're going to get to know people and you're going to then become part of that click. But you will need to get outside your shell. You can't sit off like a potted plant. Or you will not have as much fun. And to that point, I think feeling a little undecided about plush, even though now we've been to plush, dirty Vegas, the plush mansion party in SoCal, plush, flesh and fantasy in Palm Springs, and we will attend plush, have a sue. We've heard great things about Lake Havasu and we will go ahead and try that. But I think what encapsulates that is our dear friends, dress up Vegas couple. They are dress up people, the likes of which you never laid eyes on. They dress up just to go out for a vanilla or a slightly spicy meet and greet. They look like they just came off a Hollywood set out of hair and makeup. Every time they go, they dress up for things where it's not themed. And they are dressed to the nines and they are super cute. They put us to shame in that department and we consider ourselves dress up people. But they did go to the plush during Vegas party. And their impression was ostracized, I think, because they didn't know anybody mixed. I think they just didn't have as good a time as they thought. And they're a good looking couple. They are well matched, good looking couple. And so we base it a lot on their experience, because when we first went into the plush universe, we already knew a lot of people from the bliss cruises, just from the pod. We knew a lot of people. So we didn't go in completely cold at all. But Vegas dress up couple, they're a newbie couple and they should not have any difficulty in vaguely themselves into a plush party. And yet I think they did find it difficult at times because of the clickiness. So that's something to know as a newbie couple heading into plush. Go in eyes wide open to know that. And I think we asked ourselves, will we go to the Flesh and Fantasy Party next year? And I think the answer is probably no, but maybe yes. Yeah, it sort of depends if we have a better opportunity that's new. We had some friends of ours talk about fantasy fest in the key West. I just don't know what the crowd is like. So we have to see if that's our crowd. But the same way we went to a naughty in New Orleans. And now I think our intentions are to book it every year for the foreseeable future. Naughty does have they're having a second naughty per year at Halloween time. We were very, very, very tempted to go on their inaugural one. We are going to hold off just because it's only 200 rooms. And I kind of like the bigger, the better. I want thousands of people, which for us in our own personal journey, it leads us to this. We're sitting here in Denver. We are sitting in a parking garage at the mall. And this is our eighth trip sucking down sweet tea, having adopted the Scarlet Ranch as our local club. In fact, the hotel we're staying in, it's the same one we've stayed in multiple times. So Leo and I were counting the number of threesomes we've had in there. OK, there was this part of our initials in the back of the furniture. We would have looked like sluts. And we was like, we look like such sluts. I'm like, I know, but a lot of it was really soft. But God dang, we sound like sluts. So who is a slut? That's why we're all here, right? I think we kind of do, but we're not. We're not. We're not. Damn it. I'm good. I went 11 weeks. We pulled the drawbridge up continuously. On Earth could I be a slut if I went 11 weeks? Come on. You've only had two full swap experiences. And boy, were they amazing. And they were both exceptional single males. I'm all for exceptional. You know, the last time we were here, you went over. And it was in April. It has been a very long time since we've been back to Denver. And right now the jury is out on whether this possibly could be an MFM over for you again. And I think we've realized that it's not Denver. I think it's us. We have changed. The Denver people haven't changed, but maybe they're just not hitting, at least for me in the MFM department as they once were. And I think LA is where I might find what I'm looking for. Are you going Hollywood? Is that what you're saying? You forgot where you came from. We are going to the Scarlet Ranch Halloween Ball tomorrow night. And we are going to be hanging with the sapphic swingers. So very excited, even if I over on the MFM front, totally OK. But we have said this may be our last Denver trip for a hot minute. A little bit of a Denver Swan song for us. We kind of blow it up and then we're out. Yeah, it's an evolution in our own journey. At the time we had the press Amiga's MFFFFFF. That happened for the most part. The band has broken up. We still see a sweet page, but some of them are not even actively in the lifestyle anymore. And it just feels like it's time. The sun is setting to move on. You know, our membership to the Scarlet Ranch is going to end in December. We already told you we have to go as much as humanly possible in a year. And I think that's apropos. And I think we did. And now post holiday, I'm ready to go to LA once a month. And so in a way, we're turning the page on another chapter of our lifestyle journey. And I think that the next chapter is going to find us either in new locales or so Cal in the immediate future. Oh, no, I'm stuck. Step broke and help me. And there was another guy who slid into my DMs this past weekend. Oh, you don't say we're going to call him Malibu boy. Malibu Richie Rich Richie Rich. Poor little rich boy. He is a twenty three year old aspiring. Oh, I don't think we can say what he does for a living. That might dox it. And he desperately wants to pop his MFM cherry. We were trying to build a three dimensional profile out of a two dimensional app profile, and I thought we did a pretty good job. Well, his texting game was unbelievable. But yeah, we didn't do a very good job when he walked through the door. I think both of us looked at each other and thought this is an exception. So we were going to try to have a Sunday morning, afternoon, romp before we drove home. We're like, I'm not going to let this fall by the wayside because his texting game, he was writing us at two in the morning. I could come right now. I'm ready. I can bring the energy and we're like, oh, I think I'm too tired. Usually guys who lean in a lot and they're very verbose in the lead up to the meeting. They may be not as good in the bedroom or as sexy. If that's going to be the bedroom energy. And he had the personality that matched Leo like 100 percent. His soft skills were next level. And you guys were like brothers from another mother. The stories you had were in such kismet with each other. We ended up having a two hour meet and greet. We hung out at the hotel. He made it clear. You know what? I'd rather have the slow burn. I think he was really nervous. But he's one of those guys that's walking around with an Instagram filter on in real life. His soft skills are very impressive. And we told him, even as a what do you mean when you mean soft skills? And it's sort of a whole package. Well, like your texting game, just the way you talk. He's not sending dick pics. Super outgoing. He's not crude. But he's also super intentioned. I really want to do it. In a way, soft skills to me mean that you're good with girls out in the wild. And we know he's good with girls. He intimated that. I don't doubt it for a second, even though he was nervous with us. Well, he and I said at one point, just hypothetically speaking, that if the two of us went out to a bar and we were picking up girls, that maybe we wouldn't have that difficult time. And he said, yeah, I think that's probably based. I did have to leave wanting. I desperately wanted to kiss him to be continued. You mean, but it is to be continued. And he even promised me that my first MFM will be with you guys. What I think the thing about it was is he's not in the lifestyle and time and time again, some of our favorite people in the lifestyle have been not part of the life. He was so happy when we said, it's totally OK if we don't play today. We had a very limited time. We had to check out at 2 p.m. and it felt rushed. And I think he said, I'd rather the slow burn. And I'm like, well, as long as I get you in the bedroom, Malibu boy, I think he was kind of relieved. He would be on my Mount Rushmore at like a thousand percent. And I was kind of relieved because it had been a busy weekend for us. And I was still on Porn Boy NRE. And it didn't overwrite the NRE you had from Porn Boy, because that is one of the things is newbies when you're in the lifestyle. If you have experiences right on top of experiences, you don't marinate and percolate that NRE that you're experiencing. You actually then forget a little bit of it. The latest NRE will move in and sort of overwrite a little bit of the previous NRE. And so sometimes it's better to just sit and marinate. So honestly, this meet and greet because it was light. There was no play involved. There was no kissing and touching. It was enough to continue my Porn Boy NRE and kind of amp it up so much. So complimentary. It was. We should have done a pod right then before we hopped in the car, stopped off at Cracker Barrel and drove home because by that time, five hours later, we were actually too tired to pod. We ain't no podcaster. We just like to shout out into the void. And if you're listening, we really appreciate you. And we just like to capture our NRE, get it down. So maybe somewhere out there, it might help somebody who's just starting out with their journey so they know what to expect, where the road signs are, where the potholes are. So this one is really all about Kat's drought is over. I absolutely have my mojo back. She's back. I'm back better than before. She's alive. And the Swinger Moon is setting. But don't worry, we ain't going nowhere. And I think we're turning the page on our Denver chapter. And we are about to go to the Halloween ball tomorrow at Scarlet Ranch with airline stewardess. Want to get away? We are so excited for that. How many months in the making has that been? It's like 10 months. You know, when it comes to unicorns, by the way, that is not uncommon that you build rapport for months leading up to where as single guys, I roll in Friday, I'm probably going to play with you on Friday. They are the embodiment of here for a good time, not a long which is really weird that porn boy and I were in each other's phones for about four months and that it actually went down. So you're saying you want to film some more porn? I would love to film more porn porn boy. If you're listening, I want to see you again. 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