Episode 633: Tickets To Wrestling School

["The Rock and Roll"] Like the midnight and the rock and roll He's in a fight for wrestling soul Using a racket and some mind control Like he's Jim Cogniz The keys to the future Held by the past And with tag team partner, Brian Last He sends this message out by podcast He's Jim Cogniz Well, he's never fake a phone He never backs down from a fight He never wins the pony Because his mama raised him right It's time To prepare Your mind Get the experience Get the experience Get the experience Of Jim Cogniz Hello again, everybody, and welcome to another thrill-packed episode of the Jim Cornette Experience Today, the Von Erickson, Shawn Michaels documentaries The one about tragedy was more fun to watch than the one about redemption Plus, TKO's selling tickets to wrestling school You can get flying mared by your favorite All that and more today and joining me Hawaiian Brian, the podcasting lion, the king of the Arcadian Vanguard Podcast Network Mr. Co-host to you He'll put you in the cobra clutch for 40 bucks Be great, Brian Last, everybody Oh, oh, hi, Jim. I'll pleasure to be here once again Going to wrestling school Although not attending wrestling school I guess those are two separate things Well, yeah, now you can just kibbitz You can just... Am I screaming? It's one of those ear days where if... If I try to take a big old sniff and clear my sinuses, my ear is gonna pop and then I won't be able to hear and see... It's kinda like when your tongue lops over your eye teeth and you can't see what you're saying I'm trying to regulate my volume here Am I screaming? A little bit, but not too bad I'll bring it down because I want to save screaming for later Oh, this is one of those days, young man When we got a lot of stuff to talk about All kinds of things to talk about But you can't put it in any logical order because most of it makes no logical sense Just look at it like that So if you're listening to the program it's like the weather in the Ohio Valley If you don't like what we're talking about wait five minutes, it's gonna change because this is all over the place here But how's your day going? So far, so good, a little busy, a little hectic I gotta get back to editing when we're done recording and return phone calls and emails and have something to eat Boy, you're a fun guy You are just a... What about when you take Swami out to walk in nature and you, a boy and his dog romping through the leaves and the fields and the farms and the various cattle and things and then you become a boy and his cow There was a big bear on the property last night The cameras got it What? Yeah, a big bear got on the property just started walking around by the cars and then it went in the yard and it was here for a while the cameras luckily got it the whole time but I had to walk Swami because he was at the door scratching like, fuck now What, don't wait a minute now So I went out there, they said there's don't like loud noises I was just screaming like AHHHHHHHHH AHHHHHHHHHHHHH Okay, we don't like loud noises either but... But wait a minute You've got a bear in the yard and is it, don't you have an emergency puppy pad somewhere inside the house for when it's goddamn thunderstorm or fucking lightning and things and he rejects it Here he has rejected the puppy pad since he was a puppy Well, if there's a bear in the yard you, he can reject on the fucking carpet rather than go out in the yard for either one of you with a bear out there I was on the other side of the property I thought I would be safe as if I just yelled enough and How big is the fucking property? I had a flashlight, I was kind of like moving around How many feet would you be away from the bear on the other side of the property in England, in American footage? I don't, I've never thought of it in terms of American footage or any footage They'd probably still be pretty too goddamn close is my measurement I'm an expert in Japanese footage Oh god damn it Like Boba The point is, is that I agree that you should I was talking the whole reason I wanted you to do this was take your little puppy dog out for father-son time and romping in the fields but now you got bears but you were still taking a dog out to piss with a bear in your yard Plus I thought maybe there's a chance Swami would scare off the bear You know like sometimes little dogs scare off big animals The fuck, Swami could kill a bear if it got stuck in his throat but otherwise, no, is it You are more dedicated to the satisfaction of your dog's bladder than you are potentially your own life To be very honest, there's nothing to do with a dog's bladder It had to do with the fact I don't want to have to to be honest, ask Suzanne to clean up dogs shit or piss somewhere else in the house and I wasn't in the mood to do it So I took a shit, I risked my life So I risked my life, throw yourself to the bears He was on the other side of the property He was all the way down the hill It's a paper towel to pick up the turd You can pick the turd up by the clean end They do that on the wrestling programs all the time Nah, he stole some french fries off the table I thought maybe there'd be a little bit of a wetter poop so I wasn't in the mood to deal with it in the house and what if it's not on, what if it's on the rug because then it's not as easy if it's on something else or you just clean it up and then you go get a fucking lice all wipe and you wipe it in a little bit If it's on the rug, it's an issue especially if it's wet in the rug And then it's like, Suzanne's gonna be pissed because she has to get out, she has a steam thing that she does See, you create problems All I did was walk the dog, it took me two minutes All I did was scream, walk the dog and wave my flashlight around and then I went back in the house and no one got hurt Were your neighbors aware that there was a bear in the yard or did they just think that you were having a goddamn mental episode at one o'clock in the morning or whatever, out in your backyard? One of my daughters was watching me from the window She said it was funny because I thought about that as I was doing this, I was like, someone's gonna think of a maniac so I gotta indicate what I'm doing so I just yelled out, I killed bears! I killed bears! And I turned around and I see my daughter dying in the window No! What if the people two doors down are named the bears? That would be funny There's old Richard and Linda Bear, they've just moved in and they found them dead in their house I killed them! I killed the bears! See, you can be brought into a goddamn circus, a circus, a circumsitional evidence So this morning when I woke up, I went in the yard I just, you know, I checked around just to make sure he wasn't in any nook and then also you have to look up to make sure they haven't climbed the tree because that's my other fear, like one day I won't notice a bear and I'll just like drop out of a tree and jump on me See there's a lot of things to worry about A lot of things to worry about here in rural America Oh god damn it, wait a minute Wait a minute, how many occurrences have there been even I We live not far and I've lived around the area all my life the great Smuggy Mountain National Park where they're known to have a few bears and I've visited there and I've I've never heard of bears on a widespread basis just dropping out of the fucking trees and tackling people I haven't either but it's gonna happen Why are they climbing the trees? Eventually it's gonna be like I found one, I got them They're climbing the trees to get away from you because you're screaming like a fucking idiot That's why they're climbing the trees and fucking they're up there with your next door neighbors thinking you're goddamn it having a mental meltdown and hopefully you're not armed I don't go to their den and look in their car windows Who your next door neighbors? Are they the bears? The bears, that's right Oh the bears, well I thought I mean if they do it to you you're allowed to do it back to them that's the state law look in each other's windows if they do it first though they got to do it first and then you gotta look for the cubs it's called reciprocal peeping you have to look for the cubs too because whenever there's a big bear you gotta figure there's gonna be little ones this time of year right behind them you see them sometimes in the road but no little cubs apparently this was just a big mama bear hunting for who knows what it was a rogue bear that was unmarried and sexually frustrated ready to fucking bite your ass anyway do you have bears in Kentucky? In Louisville? Now that's two different questions in the entire state In Louisville, let's focus on Louisville Walking down fucking Muhammad Ali Boulevard and broad daylight, no These people are screaming for completely different reasons They walk down the streets and downtown Louisville they are just but there's no bears and you can laugh about it all you want it's either I looked like a maniac or the other side is my method worked I was out there for two minutes walking the dog he peed went back in the house Well can we come back to the bear facts about Kentucky? Yeah Yes there are bears in the mountainous and wooded areas of eastern Kentucky but up here again we have deer I've mentioned the wildlife situation but we have never to my knowledge had a bear in our neighborhood See I felt good this morning when I saw the deer on the property because I was like okay if the bear was here they wouldn't be fucking around Well maybe they've declared a truce No they run from everything they stare and then they just take off and then the other one's like oh shit he's running I'll run too and they'll just run Well they don't like your smell You have something about you that offends them How did this become insult Brian and his love of wildlife? Well no you're not saying that you're loving them and they certainly don't like you You're screaming at the bears like a fucking lunatic they don't want anything to do with you and you're staring at the deer while they're going about their business and you obviously have something off-putting about your scent Not screaming at the bears They run away from you Not screaming at the bears I'm screaming to prevent the bears there's a big difference Sorry that not everyone has the safety of castle cornet not everyone's in just safety all day without the fear of bears dropping out of trees and eating them I was almost fucking killed by a rogue raccoon here not long ago that invaded the property Rogue raccoon I like that that's a good name Yeah see how could you say I'm safe here it's just that I'm not out there screaming it unless it's people The only time I'm out in my yard screaming it's human beings that I'm screaming at Think about it of all the times that I've told you that I screamed at something was anybody not a human being? I don't know I don't know any tale of you screaming at an animal No Or Well I guess I'm not an example I even remember Harley like pooping in your office next to you and you'd be like oh that's okay that's so cute what a cute little poop What the fuck What the fuck That happened here would be a nightmare it would be a catastrophe Oh no no no Alrighty anyway can we do the show now We barely started Barely this is your show Well and I said I don't know what I'm doing so I'll keep on doing that We got some emails from the cult of cornet several people that I want to recognize acknowledge or whatever the case may be and You should have gotten this one also this went to both of us but from Rose Who said hello Jim and Brian my name is Rose and I live on the island of Saipan in the West Pacific Ocean She may be descended from Amelia Earhart My mom and brother and I have been listening to your shows for almost eight years now together and we've always enjoyed laughing at your shows on long car trips during the pandemic lockdown or cooking meals We're very appetizing Brian But Rose says my mom is still in Minneapolis but I've moved across the world to Saipan and every time we talk on the phone across our 15 hour time zone difference We talk about your shows and pro wrestling but Right now my mother is very sick and it would mean the world to her If she heard herself get a shout out on one of your shows Her name is Lynette Lynette in Minneapolis. We're shouting at you now You better get better and feel better Because you'll be better off That's right She has to answer the question Lynette has to get better and write in and tell us What a f*** did Rose go to Saipan Rose you have not indicated past military service of some description What would occasion someone to move from Minneapolis to Saipan? Lynne Rose is involved with the Saipan porn scene Hey! No! Look in everybody and it's on film No! Don't Lynette! Lynette! and it's on film and it's on film Hootie hoot! Hootie hoot! Hootie hoot! Don't listen No! Come on now But anyway Lynette get better soon get well soon get better quickly Just go over and get Rose is what you need to do and bring her back from Saipan What is the uh Brian can you Google Saipan What's the population of Saipan? Did Rose just go over there because she could take over the place? Any knowledge of it's in the West Pacific Ocean and I know that Amelia Earhart either was supposed to end up landing there or all did Did she depart from there or not make it to there? I'm trying to remember now The last documented words of Amelia Earhart were let's get the fuck out of Saipan No it says Saipan is the largest of the northern Mariani Islands a U.S. Commonwealth in the western Pacific Pacific Pacific It's characterized by sandy shores and mountainous landscapes and has several championship golf courses Maybe she plays golf, Rose It's high as point So professional golfer or a military person Japanese memorials mark Banzai Cliff and Suicide Cliff Sites from the 1944 Battle of Saipan How many people that live there? It was my original question Was that your question? Was that a question of all? That was you answered everything but and we played golf I don't know what the fuck The population is 43,385 50.9% Asian 33.6% Pacific Islander 2.1% White and 0.2% Others And then there's Rose So she's one of only 43,000 something people living over there So she can have her way with things I guess But get better Lynn That's the point That's the big point That is the point And we got an email from Clement Who actually has Has I wanted to mention this Because he's marked an achievement But he said he started listening to the podcast With his mother who had Had been a cancer survivor for years Then started to suffer from dementia And as he was not only taking care of her But also he's got a wife and five kids He listened to our podcast while he was Up late nights and evenings and etc To enroll in a doctoral program in business And had our podcast to listen to While he studied to He said keep him sane But I don't really see how that we would help in that regard Sanity is not one of our strong points over here But nevertheless Even his mother unfortunately passed away in 2024 He wasn't sure about continuing school But he kept with it And now he will be graduating in June in Knoxville Somewhere he didn't say where But nevertheless Congratulations to Dr. Clement He's going to be a doctor now A doctor of funny business of some description Congratulations doctor And also A Chris from Boston He wrote this and It's amazing because we've been talking about world class And the Von Erichs documentary And I was going to bring this up later in the difference They said you know when they went to Boston I thought it was we went to Boston I was on the card I thought it was cool Right because wow I'm in fights I've only been in business Three years not even And we're drawing a house in fucking Boston Then when they started talking about Israel I was like all right settle down now cowboy But Chris and his dad would watch world class wrestling They would record it on Saturday mornings And then they'd watch it together on Saturday nights And they liked the Von Erichs and the Fantastics His dad hated me But point is he says that we were a big part of a special time in his life Father's son time in the 80s with his dad And we wanted to recognize Chris in Boston He his dad passed away on April 27th And that's why he sent the email in but But again His you know That's the thing is There were so many times in that era when different generations Right we've talked about this now how many kids are there How many grandmothers are there Different generations would either Watch the shows every week or if they went to the matches They'd be going it was something the families could do And do you see I know families very well off families possibly with Endowments from fucking major foundations Go to the WWE shows now But are there is indie wrestling or AEW wrestling or are those Six one half does the other is that a family environment anymore I think independent wrestling in a lot of cases should be but Regular independent promotions don't seemingly well I shouldn't say everyone there are a few They don't go after families they're going after hardcore wrestling fans who will come with Themselves or a few friends and react to the crazy matches not A dad his wife who doesn't watch wrestling and a couple of kids going to a show At the local high school gym and seeing matches that are there to Get them to pop out of their seats and be entertained as opposed to yeah Look at the incredible athleticism non-stop all night no one could pin anyone is amazing Well, and and I just also had uh my sympathies for Chris's loss Yes, and and you know all those different father sons going on now hopefully they can Have that on tv, but it's harder to have it now in person because You know the shows of any major league level are so in it In it in What's word? I'm sorry intermittent In you know anybody's market. You can't just go to your local wrestling anymore But there are still some shows down south where they still do old-fashioned wrestling On spot shows because they've never really left and so people have the guys getting into business there such as it is these days still see that but You never hear about them Anyway, it's funny. We talked so much about You know we wish there was another billionaire Someone who could do something in between a w and wwe and do it right and do it serious and get rid of a lot of the things that Both companies are guilty of Maybe you know We always think too big maybe there's room And it's going to be a growing thing for something kind of smaller That just regularly runs shows and does shows like that that people can afford When you see what's happening with wwe You have to wonder how much of what's happening to the concert business right now Is going to eventually affect them where fans are rejecting People that were told or major stars going on major concert tours because the ticket prices are outrageous And We've heard the complaints from wwe fans and hasn't had a really big effect yet on ticket sales But you have to think that there's almost room for Low grade isn't the word but just a small Well-run wrestling company that could do regular shows That people could afford to go to you know entertainment always does good even in the great depression famously entertainment movies did great So you're but they have to be but they have to be there that that's the point I don't know how many options there are right now that aren't Options that are well promoted that aren't through the roof in terms of ticket pricing Yes, so you're saying that if if somebody was to get together a decent roster of wrestlers and concentrate on a smaller geographic area where they could find or afford television penetration to advertise their product while not having their transportation costs through the roof and people being on the road away from their families and concentrate on local sponsorships where that they could plumb the wrestling fans in the select markets to go and patronize the companies that were sponsoring them and that would lead to increased revenue and publicity in that particular area That sounds like an idea that My my work. Have they ever tried that in wrestling? When was the last time they tried it? Well, I can tell you it wasn't long ago It's just not happening right now. There's nothing well funded or at least that's that well And there that's that that's the problem. There is you know if I had Tony cons money And I had a wrestling company. I probably would have allocated a whole bunch of it And I know this sounds crazy or it could be anyone doesn't have to be Tony I would say you know here's six towns and it may not even be the biggest but I want to run them every month for the next few years Let's build these towns and let's have people return back to see things based purely off what they saw last time Not what's on tv or anything There's just no working wrestling the way concert promoters work concerts, there's no working Local wrestling the way other forms of entertainment big and small Or work coming into a town let alone one that would be regular which is kind of a Very old-fashioned idea. Just no one really No one with money tries it And try it all in There is the problem in that There has been no significant in the middle guy between the pittons that we saw like that sinclair broadcasting was willing to pay and spend on ring of honor for so long or the I mean, you know anthem has t and a but I mean, there's no millionaires on the roster up there There's been nothing in the middle of We're getting by and tony spending literally How many figures is that nine figures of? Well into the nine figures of of money Since he's been in business there's nothing been in the middle, but Tony would have been smart to your point if he had I know he did jacksonville because they owned the place, but that wasn't really building a market I'm not sure they were were they charging for tickets I don't think that counts and they didn't do it right, but that doesn't count. But what I'm saying is Whether it was the south and southeast which the the cities are close together The they have a history of going to live wrestling or whether it was the midwest because chicago was a Tremendous wrestling market and you could branch off into indianapolis and st. Louis and above or whatever Even if he was on national television If he had picked A part of the country that he could at least establish a really good base where they wanted To see these guys And they wanted not only tv tapings, but house shows And then branch out Then but the problem becomes Once you've seen one of tony shows way It's a law of diminishing returns his finishes don't build The houses as they go along They diminish them They draw fewer people the more often they go back So that there's a problem you remember as a fan and I remember Leaving a building buzzing about what's next Just buzzing about what's coming either to the same building In my case an asshole coliseum maybe next month Just buzzing about what yeah can happen next I don't know if people leave aew with that feeling they may feel fulfilled if they're into that style But are they buzzing about oh my god? What's gonna happen next and I think that's one of the things In general missing and it's affecting wwe2 Because all they have now is people Getting into the hype waiting for a moment and then everything in between a moment Just is lacking right now Real quick just because I thought about this What's aew's annual deal right now? Do you remember is 180 million? What is it? Sounds Close 170 what's five million among friends? A mere hand job. I thought this was interesting 2025 pay which includes 110 million in stock options because of the corporate restructuring David Zasloff Warner Brothers Discovery $165 million So he's making for one year five million dollars less than aew Is getting paid for being on tv every week Think about that Oh Maybe he wants to start a wrestling company. He's gonna have a lot of money and time on his hands If these Son of a bitch is such as they are the nick cons and the aria manuals and the uh, what was that fellow's name? He just said was david zasloff zasloff Or the soul's answers or whoever of the world if they're making 50 million 75 million 160 whatever million What should be the compensation for the motherfucker that finally comes in and cures cancer? Or what should be the compensation for the the the person who slides in and prevents this childhood fucking disease or handicap from reaching fruition or whatever when these stupid bastards Just wearing suits and ties are going around trying to fuck the other guy wearing a suit and tie And probably don't know shit from apple butter about half the things that they bluff their way through And they make that much money. That's why jonah sock is such a hero Right do you ever hear anything about jonah sock being a goddamn billionaire? No, he gave it away. He gave away the vaccine Well, there's somebody ought to pay him for it so that you could remember jonah sock is being a billionaire instead of this Fucking weird looking goddamn drugged out elon musk Or the rest of these other fucking sorry sacks of shit Hey real quick on the topic of elon musk because I thought about this the other day serious question It's gonna sound silly, but a serious question Would people think of him the same way they do the people who support him? Really more than the people who don't but the people who like elon musk Would they think of him the same way they do if he rocked his natural bald head? Because if you see photos of him when he was You know in 2000 let's say He was going bald the hair was diving off his head And now all of a sudden he's got hair and obviously he Really likes it and he tries to look cool with it, but it ain't real. It ain't his hair. What? I don't know if he was a bald man behaving the same way he did right now Would he get the same free pass that he does from a lot of people? Well, you've got all kinds of creepy bald people in the republican party There's that one guy from florida that looks like literally like We're talking about people that have young people thinking that they know something and that they're onto something and they behave cool If he was there's all kinds of people that think that they Charles Manson had any young people thinking they know he wasn't bald He wasn't bald if Charles Manson was bald Do you think he would have been able to get all these girls to do everything eventually shaved his head? But that's different Steve austin Steve austin he was bald and people did what he wanted So what the fuck the point is where we're back home hold on back up a second What were we talking about before baldness elan musk bald? I don't know what he fucking looked like in goddamn 2000 because I'd never heard of him until he burst upon the news The last several years being a goddamn creepy batman villain looking billionaire and then buddied up next to fucking shittler And if you I'm not worried about him being bald it looks to me like he's got a replacement face on If if anybody has enough money I think he's had his face replaced The hair and all he just had something else spread off on his fucking frame there Have you ever seen this guy? He's been in the newspapers for years and he was just on cnn Because there's a show that I had on in the background carouswisher I think it's carouswisher doesn't want to age or carouswisher wants to live forever and she profiled this guy He apparently is obsessed with not aging and de-aging And he has had like Like his face looks the skin almost looks unhealthy But he has like a sleeping pattern and he like keeps his own sperm like all these weird things He's like a rich guy obsessed with not aging. I don't know how to describe it better than that But he's been in the news. Have you seen this guy? He's a rich guy obsessed with not aging so he keeps his own sperm Hold on. Let me see what this guy's name is I'm I'm wondering I'm trying to connect the dots and wondering how that one is going to fulfill the other What is this guy's name? Hold on. Here's the guy Brian Johnson Brian from acdc No, it's brian johnson with a y if you can google this guy and see who he is tell me if you've seen this guy I don't what I don't have my fucking google thing in front of me my keyboard or whatever here You can throw me all off. I guess this story sucks then. All right. Well Well, I don't care what why just tell me why he's keeping is his home I don't know exactly why I named it as one of the maybe concerned about this guy's sperm I need to know What application is is being made with this fellow's sperm? It's it's a sperm in the moment decision Is there any explanation as to how he thinks his own sperm is going to help him live longer is he just Fucking just recycling it just in one end together. What is it because you're obsessed with sperm my friend? as of may 2026 biohacker brian johnson claims to have achieved world first fertility results at age 48 Reporting that his sperm contains zero micro plastics And exhibits quality markers comparable to a healthy 20 year old His sperm count 330 But possibly he's had some contributions from some healthy 20 year olds his sperm count, which is 330 to 380 Excuse me 330 to 380 million millions on the next oh And concentration 143 million are reportedly over four times the average and exceed whl thresholds for fertility In november 2024 johnson had 165 particles of micro plastics per milliliter in his semen By may of 2026 he reported reducing this to zero claiming to be the first human to demonstrate this I really don't want to go too much further into this man's sperm studies, but you get the idea And what has made it that way or is he just that way naturally? He's full of spun. He attributes this to a strict protocol designed to reduce environmental toxins daily dry sauna for 20 minutes at 200 degrees fahrenheit testicular cooling Using ice packs on the groin while in the sauna to protect against heat induced damage Jesus and plastic avoidance avoiding plastic food containers bottled water and using reverse osmosis water It takes a lot of time to do all this the other thing it's like I mean if you've if you've got a sauna, I guess that would be but 15 or 20 minutes or whatever they said but But also otherwise just stay away from plastics and suddenly your goddamn sperm is as valuable as secretariats Is what he's saying He previously improved his sperm quality by discontinuing testosterone replacement therapy Well discontinuing it and it went up as say Jesus christ, possibly this guy needs to be a test case What is his sperm going for on the open market now? Well, you see that's the thing we're talking about all this stupid shit. He's doing. I don't know why he's doing it I what the fuck's the point? You can't get her like more pregnant You'll get super pregnant. I don't know what the point is This is part of the key of living longer apparently is that uh is his If I guess that's why he's saving it because then you would re-ingest your own testicular fortitude and then it would build it up and Sort of like cholesterol right only Of another kind But what that is he is he's marketing this is there like is there an ounce price or give me a gallon? I can get a discount. I don't know if he's marketing it, but he's certainly promoting it because I hear I googled Brian Johnson, so he just he's just a come tease He just teased us about shit. We can't get Here's an article bio hacker Brian Johnson details his own intimate semen micro plastics report with never before seen score Yeah, his article is all over the place. So this guy's obviously like Doing this here's the new york post Oh, here's his twitter Yeah, and he put up a picture of his sperm so you could see how healthy they are as if anyone would look at this and know what they're seeing Oh, you mean like a microscope not like just laying on his stomach or something He took a selfie, but it's it's like the microscope shit. That's right Yeah, I guess the point is uh Once again, my condolences to chris and the show will get better The show I well it can't go too far in the other direction Did uh, what are what have we done here? Did I plug the wh as crusade for children is coming up? Brian before we go too much further. I got to plug that. No, you have not Saturday and sunday june 6th and 7th is crusade weekend this this year Obviously the first weekend in june. It's a tradition. What is this number? 76 I've lost count, but nevertheless We'll talk more about it as it comes up, but remember wh as crusade dot org Is where you can go to find out all the things that they do but over the last 70 whatever years they've raised Closing in I believe now on 200 million dollars for the special needs kids in Kentucky and southern indiana now all all over both states really at this point now and uh, we always do something and recognize them every year so Look them up while you're listening to us You think randy atcher will be on this year? Oh god now quit Just stop it. We're talking about children. We're talking about charity We're this is not the time to point fingers at people for making an innocent mistake It he looked so lifelike The tape was 15 years old. It's like a black and white kinescope. They put it on in the middle of the thing You thought it was live They had color tv in louisville, kentucky in the 90s. I'm just telling you I remember the the the day that my My mom brought to had the first color set. No, it was actually my dad got the first color set And randy atcher was on it to follow in saturday night on wh as anyway speaking of of People who have gotten some charity should we jump into this now and I'll come back to this other email I wanted to read you because we got to talk about roger jackson, don't we now remember when when roger jackson was just the the darling of all of the news sites and websites and it spread all over the place for him beating the piss out of this fucking indy guy at the Outlaw show in california quintin rampage jackson's son And everybody ought to get you ought to get the electric chair. You ought to be hung and horse whipped. You ought to buy whatever the case Apparently money talks brian negotiations have apparently been made And the plea agreement Is one felony count of serious bodily injury he's got to pay 80 000 dollars in change restitution. I assume to psycho stew And you'll be on probation for two years, which you know this little delinquent won't be able to that'll be the worst part of this whole thing Is them keeping an eye on him for two years them trying not to be a fuck up But how much do you think that cost? Rampage or do you think That the court just said look at all these stupid drunken fat bald slovenly fucks and attention seeking Fame whores streaming themselves and taking camera phones of themselves They should all probably just rot in the Seventh level of dantes inferno Your thoughts Yeah, I mean it's disappointing to see that he's Basically getting a slap on the wrist for what could have been murder I think everyone is disappointed by this. He did the smart thing He shut up and went away for a while. Everyone forgot about this but You know psycho stew went through a lot and was bullshit And the guy did it and he streamed it live So I know this is what is happening criminally I sincerely hope that psycho stew sues I haven't heard that he is and I haven't heard that he isn't But you would think with this story coming out you would hear something But it just feel like this isn't enough punishment. That's just the way it feels to me But you could tell me what you well, obviously but and and I'm betting you Yeah That Psycho's boy. I'm going to try to say this. I'm betting you psycho stew doesn't sue Because either he's getting this 80 grand to begin with and to him that's Wow, that's a lot of money compared to the Whatever he could get from the jackson Estate or the the the family there But also I bet you they've gotten to him. Oh, stew. It's it's the business or it's wrestling or whatever He's one of these guys who wants to live and let live I I would live and then I would see you motherfucker in court After I lived I'll live to see the day that you'll be hauled into court You son of a bitch and by the way and it's been a while since we went through everything But maybe not just roger jackson You know, there was someone filming it There was the promotion that actually housed and welcomed them into there Yeah, there are Just stepped down from by the way this past week Yeah, yeah I can't believe it took him this long And it was like, you know, I don't even know if he gave a reason but Yeah, I mean, it's not like that he was apparently involved on a day-to-day basis to begin with but I can't believe he didn't back up immediately after this whole thing But that's again, there's multiple entities and multiple insured entities that would probably be culpable in a lawsuit if they chose to pursue that which We'll see if they're smart enough to or if somebody's got to them and swerved their head arounds and heads around rather and They're not gonna do it. Oh, I don't want to do that. Yeah I would this motherfucker would be wiping my fucking toilets out when I was a drooling 97 year old If I had to put Steven P new on him Well, obviously if psycho stew needs the sue you can call Steven P new 877 well and we we gave him that advice and he'd never heard from from stew. That's why I'm thinking that You know, they've already done some kind of hush hush deal But it wasn't nearly as much as stew could have got if he chose to sue with new So boo get it in writing stew a deal without a deal isn't a deal And no three month out clauses. That's right. That's right But brian on a happier note I see that vice tv has officially announced The season seven episodes of dark side of the ring that are coming up. I did Did you hear a premiere date? I haven't I'm I'm even on the dagum thing and I didn't I didn't get a the email on this I give me one second. I actually did see that Let me pull that but the season seven of dark side of the ring is going to be coming up and july 7th July 7th. There you go. So mark it down on your calendars Tuesday july 7th Tuesday night and see it right at the Louisville gardens. That's where they ought to hold the premiere and uh, I'm on A few of these episodes. I don't know how many and I shall explain of one episode is about The big boss man obviously bubble rogers ray trailer And I sat down with him for that one And and and also they've got cooperation from Ray's wife kids and you know, I think that's going to be a really nice episode And then the paul orndorf episode Which again, I think this you know so much Tremendous footage that they can bring to that and they're getting some good interviews. I sat down for that one I took Paul orndorf's rookie wrestling pictures. Brian. That's how old I fucking am What's the dark side with paul orndorf? Is it the arm? uh, what just his story of you know having the great career but then having the injury and the you know Early athletic retirement and then the controversy When he passed away because of his illness and dementia and etc And also it's just a chance to get a nice that's another guy When does the wwe fucking praise paul orndorf? I'm all for a paul orndorf documentary praising him. I was just asking about the dark side. I mean, it's dark side of the ring. It's not wrestling stories It's Branching out since since I bought half the company. We're branching out. We're just doing things I like now uh, but it's going to be a tear jerking episode I promise And the thing that everybody is uh, what is there there's some other missy hyatt missy hyatt gets Yeah, I want to see that one That could be a very interesting one You know missy hyatt was not part of the eddie gobert one and I thought that was something that was an unfortunate decision that I understand why the filmmakers had to make it for that instance because they wanted someone else's inclusion but missy has an interesting story And has never been shy about talking about it. So I I'm actually looking forward to that one that could be good And also just to show everybody that I really don't pick all these episodes They're doing one on zack gallant everybody's favorite one-legged wrestler. Are they gonna get lauren itis? uh Seriously, that's one of the stories with zack gallant everyone thinks about right away I know but I only because it makes lauren I just look like the biggest dipshit in the world I can't believe he'll own up to that on camera. I think not will they get the other one-legged wrestler That was oh that would that would be fucking great That would be fun. Yeah, they they gave me 75 000 you know, I got one leg and it helped I know I was not consulted on these episodes obviously because of lack of expertise on the subject also Renegade who was who that fellow in wcw that was the knockoff ultimate warrior That's a sad and apparently and I didn't know that this was a newsworthy Thing or the thing that happened or whatever But you might know better than I do samoa joe and necro butcher Years ago on the independence somewhere had a match where joe just beat the shit out of him And it was famous on the independent scene of the time And it's become the stuff of legend and I didn't know the fuck that it happened Do you know anything about what i'm talking about vaguely I don't I wasn't really following that stuff at that time Well in that case then that's what some of the just to show you I don't pick them all folks but I was never a necro butcher fan so I didn't other than when he was in ring of honor I didn't see too much of him and obviously him and joe you would think it was part of that but It was never really my thing. So I wasn't really too involved what he was not I he was a very nice man, but he was not a wrestler that I would Have been booking for ever anyway, um But here's what's created the stir And I you know again, I don't know what people think they're gonna see but this is gonna be one more interesting story as they've told because People on so many sides of it just loathe each other But it's gonna be a three-part episode on Jeff Jarrett Not only centering on t and a But going back and talking about the Jarrett family. Hopefully they do we did in great detail To give some context to everybody on what they had already contributed to wrestling But then he gets into this fucking fiasco t and a and All of the interplay for all of those years with the You know the millionaire's daughter and the fucking guy thought was his best friend. That's a lunatic and the whole nine yards And it then it for a while it ceases being Jeff's Particular story as much as the Interplay of everybody involved in t and a but it's the closest look That anybody's taken of the company From that time period and then thankfully Jeff overcoming his issues and Having a nice time with his family So this one doesn't get to be the dark side of the rig but well, I mean you're focusing on Jeff Jarrett I think everyone the thing that they're focusing on when they saw this was t and a because no one's taken a shot at it really And three parts about t and a It could be the best thing they've ever done if they do it, right There's I fear that they're gonna get a lot of Russo and Whenever they do they for whatever reason go to like a super tight close-up. So it's just all Russo all the time What would I I think that that that actually helps the more Russo that they feature The more that it helps the case of everybody who's anti Russo because then they start getting it Okay, did they get everyone who was I mean they got you obviously they got Jeff obviously I'm assuming Russo because he's been a part of previous seasons Dixie dutch Did they get obviously terry taylor's and wwe so they didn't get him I well, I don't have the entire list of people that contributed but A lot of the major players and many of the ancillary characters. I understand Have been contacted and or were contacted there was ever a time the wish jerry jarrett was still alive for him to do something about the History oh my god the beginning of t and a because I want to make sure that's presented just what happened I'm sure it will be what happened when him and jeff and it was all based around jeff and russo It was all russo based. It's crazy I could sit and listen to jerry jarrett talk about vitz russo all day long I mean In that matter of fact low Slow way he had of just sitting there and saying yep You know Vince russo has to be screwing Dixie There's no other explanation They it is he believed it. He said there's no other way. That's the shon michaels vince thing You try to wrap your head around that there's no reason anyone should put up with any this they must be fucking There's no other reason. I can't think of anything It's the same thing that they they must be fucking principal. That's right. They have to be fucking you just know they're fucking That is an intriguing thing a three-part they've done two-part episodes I don't think they've done a three-part before no but three parts Again, I'm sure the jeff stuff will be okay, but it's really about You know, no one's ever written a book. I mean russo apparently wrote a book But no one's ever really written the book of like russo never read a book But you know what? I mean no one's ever written a book about the downfall and the behind the scenes and just the missed opportunity that was tna and You know brian alvarez wrote death of wcw years ago and it was such a funny book to go through and recount exactly what they did and exactly what they said and that made it funny Wcw didn't last as long as tna, but there's never been like anyone that really just pointed out Just how fucked up that television was and the booking was and the fucking well i midgets jerking off in the garbage can just shit I can't speak for what everybody else said, but there were many occasions. I was asked about things such as that such as that is ain't lowly used to say And so if if if there are the rest of the people are following my lead A lot of people are gonna be talking about it Here on these programs Did they get scott demore? I did again. I didn't clear their guest list. They were they were in my home. I wasn't around anyone else Chattie, I thought they would tell you that's what they would just well I think everybody wanted to fucking be anonymous on this thing It comes out Time to get their affairs in order or whatever we named a lot of people there If I said who would be the best person to get about tna that wasn't on that list that would just give you the unvarnished truth Who would you pick? Oh that who would be who would tell you the truth about tna dutch would if they talked to dutch and of course dutch is This was a number of months last year now. We shot that but still dutch's health has been Bad, so i'm not sure whether they did but dutch would tell you the truth Oh, my today Mike tna would tell you the truth Because they have no one to care whether they piss off or impress either way um Who would tell you the truth? Who would tell you besides me now? We're leaving me out of this I guess excluding. This is not the royal we Uh, you know really is crazy if you don't west is gone. If you think about trying to do a thing about tna It's been around for so long now. They have you know to tell the story How many you have to get bish off you have to go to all these different people that were there because it's been such a long period of time and so many ups and downs and crazy turns I'm really i'm looking forward to that. I really want to see how they're going to tackle that But isn't I'm just thinking isn't it just a goddamn shame? That to really i'm thinking of all the people That you could go to that would just tell you the truth about tna and their experience there and unvarnished fashion And and I got to four and one and one of them's dead I'd say Dave sahadi, but I saw he put out a book and then two days later. I had arrested so I don't Know no come on now. What? What are you saying? You don't know about this? No, what I know he put out a book. Why would he be arrested? Uh, someone ready sahadi wouldn't say boo to a goose Hold on Dave sahadi And that other there you go comes right up american multi and key keys michael key smith your good I'm thinking of the wider group Keith Mitchell the producer of tna. He'd tell you the truth They probably talked to him. I have an article from post wrestling march 26 by brandon thurston producer david sahadi charged with stalking Issue statement denying allegations So he's denying it. He's saying that he did not do it I would I would have to believe david. They saw how he wouldn't try to sneak up on a squirrel at the park Okay, fucking Bullshit must this be who does that who sneaks up on a squirrel? Why would you do that? I'm just saying he said no if you said look at Dave sahadi If you said anybody that's ever met Dave sahadi Dave sahadi would stalk someone and be arrested for it. You wouldn't bust out fucking laughing Hey, stay away your order was entered on march 16th directing sahadi to stay away from the person he is accused of stalking Post wrestling is choosing not to identify the person He was arrested on february or or tell us any reason for it whatsoever Apparently he was arrested on february 10th and later released on bond. He has denied any wrongdoing in the matter Uh, this was chattanooga chattanooga police department Ham yes, he's lived and again. He fell in love with the chattanooga area and the mountains down there when he started working for tna and their uh office was in nashville and he's lived there for years and years now and this may as may be one of those fucking Next door neighbor deals where the garbage is going over the fence or something. That's the literally the only thing that could be Mr. Sahadi through council is pursuing a civil action in excess of seven figures for defamation corporate negligence and the resulting harm Corporate not corporate negligent. Do you think it's a company that's dumping their garbage over his fence? It's dixie is Panda energy are they still in business? I don't think they are are they I don't know maybe you know, the they've lost it all in the wrestling game They were just mere texas oil millionaires. They couldn't compete in today's high stakes How much money can you possibly fucking lose on purpose wrestling business? Oh, yeah, they're not in business any longer What way so the original subject was dark side of the ring and suddenly Dave sahadi is auditioning for the show But I would I would again I would not read too much into Dave sahadi being arrested except to say that it's obvious He's filing a defamation suit back This is a pretty interesting lineup again. I'd like to see the missy hyatt show the tna ones again missed opportunity alberto l felon Should have been one of the people on this season. He is I think they just know they'd have to update it next year And they they want to just save it and do the whole no you wouldn't you would be able to do part two next year That's the difference not updating. It's part two. Look at everything else. He's done in the last year He's still out part two. He's still out. He's still crazy Alberta's back Every month is still out every month is a few incidents with him in the You know You know what they say brian? Do you know what they say they sometimes they say out of the frying pan and into the fire? That's the some of the things that they say They being them. Have you ever heard them say that? I've heard them say that yes, would you like to hear me say that now? 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Your podcast helped me Get through the tough climbs and the long slow miles. I was running however After running for 45 miles I'd been on my feet for 13 hours and a new podcast came up unfortunately It started with brian's awful piano playing And it was at this point that I thought about throwing myself off the mountain to end the pain that I was enduring Sounds like a good thought try it emerson Fools emerson who clearly doesn't know music He didn't say he was a musician. No, he said he was a fool. He completed an ultramarathon Fool I want to be darby allen. Oh, I'm gonna climb the mountain, but I'll only go halfway and then I'll go to the next mountain Oh He I don't like his piano. Oh I'm emerson. He's just he's a man who has two ears. I'm a man. I'm emerson and I'm a man He was in a stressful situation. He was nearing the breaking point And and you were enough to put him over the edge Literally, you know, it's a good time to remind you there are people all over the world who are battling all sorts of issues and seemingly they find a lot of relief in my tickling of the ivories The music that we create here on the show has done a lot to lift people up and carry people through the day So I'm not gonna let emerson take away What this music has done for so many people You also I am the publishing You are to tickling the ivories What they were two captives in world war one when they pulled their fingernails out one at a time to manicurus That's not nice is what you are Anyway speaking of shit that just grated on me immediately Brought you had me Well, we're gonna check in with the ancillary wrestling promotions For a moment. You had me watch the new guy in nxt And his name is mason rook and Whoa I don't I don't even know where to start Otherwise than to say that it looks like somebody Kind of tried to make a wrestling figure out of play dough And it ended up looking like Mason rook But maybe after he made it He set it on the fucking windowsill in the hot summertime and it got melty a little bit Come on now Is it rook or rook? I don't know It rook made me want a puke It Hey, I mean, I just I don't know what I at first I was like is it the fucking love child of dump matsumoto and crab baby cannon But then I Apparently what they did was they you've just pictured crab baby cannon giving it to dump matsumoto, right? And the offspring it would produce. Yes, and the offspring it would produce Apparently they had an angle a couple weeks ago on nxt and they had laid out One of the guys and and the guy who did it was leaving and suddenly this fat fucking guy out of the audience that They assumed or so one of the announcers said is that a fan? Jumped in the ring and he was wearing like sweat pants and a fucking sweat top And he did a moonsault on the guy that was down and he had the biggest plumber's crack It looked like the plumber's grand canyon Because if pants almost fell off of him with his belly flopped out He had furniture disease where his chest was in his drawers And it all flopped out over the fucking waistband And it looked like a fan. It just jumped in the ring and done a fucking moonsault and then He came back again this week, but now he was dressed in What what allegedly was supposed to serve as wrestling gear On this, you know, fucking Michelin man type of He looked you remember man mountain link rick link from north carolina, of course He was a very nice guy Wonderful person and he tried to work very hard But he had a body where the top of him looked like he should be 275 and below his waist he looked like he should be 375 But he clocked in in the middle because of the two disparities in the Is like somebody broke two different action figures and stuck them back together wrong This he has this guy has no For a big guy no impressive imposing Body his arms are he's very pale Again at one point I thought is this the new big Bruiser in the women's division But there's no there's no muscle gain Definition to any arms, but they're also not as big as they should be if this guy's fucking threaded whatever pounds And then it gets bigger as it goes down And his face he looks like he's He looks literally like fucking the fat kid in the little rascals Like that he's just seven years old Facially joe cob or chubby? No, the who was it fucking was it spanky. I was spanking McFarland I can't remember nevertheless The point being what the fuck if This would be like an office rib and back in the vince mcbandays if you took an eight by 10 of this guy And put it in a folder and told some idiot that you wanted to fucking get fired or just get blistered Go take this to vince tell him it's the new wrestler you just signed what the And he's apparently from across the pond because when he yelled in the camera that he was mason ruke And I am here He's got an ax. Well, I'm sorry that with I'm mason ruke and I am here I He wasn't fat like a jerry blackwell or a bam bam bigelow. Holy shit. This giant guy's gonna kill me fat. He's just fat like god, this is a guy that you would see in a physical therapy place and his voice is Not in any way fearsome or intimidating but the face you can't get around the face Unless they were gonna do some kind of gimmick where he His mother lived near chernobyl and he's only 11 He's he's singing six feet tall and he's 300 some pounds that he can do all these goddamn wrestling moves But he's 11 years old Because he's from chernobyl and his mother is fucking radioactive jever wonder What kind of wrestler john candy would play if it was the early seasons of sc tv and he played there you deus He looks like a child john candy Again He's new apparently he's worked on the indies and they've signed him and he's now mason ruke I'm happy When I see a wrestler who doesn't have the what has become the typical wrestlers look Well, I'm happy when there's variety. I'm happy when there's variety and you have different sizes different Uh different sizes. I guess we just focus on that. What this is. No What the thing is the youthful look on top of everything else Because if all this went the way it did and he was wearing a mask, I don't know if it would be the issue it is No, if you if you put him in a Top with sleeves and a mask and he can do all that shit I don't know what the gimmick would be but that's the only way that it's really visually palatable to I mean, you know again, there's a reason why that You know, not everybody is suited for every occupation If you're casting a movie about roman gladiators would this guy get a job? If I'm just I've never I don't even on the indies Tony fog looks like dick the bruiser next to this guy You know and again, tony de angelo is getting a big push there I think he's the top baby face now He's got long hair. You know, it's in a ponytail, but it comes out. It goes wild He's got a beard and mustache looks like a man When the turnaround and walk to the camera happened, that's the cringiest Thing I've seen on wrestling in a long time. That wasn't like just ultra gore Just as he's slowly walking to the camera. I'm thinking. Oh, no What is this? This doesn't seem right And is it he's like prime rosy o'donnell with a different haircut I googled him the first image that came up someone So a row what do you think of mason ruckett? It's a picture of chas bono Oh my oh Pay well that one the internet There's no way to get around that one I'm just you know, again, they're doing it They're putting him in the main event scene attacking the top guy in nxt And two big moments on their show They see something in them It's just like you said, it's the least imposing look on You know someone who should be a someone who's dominating the other wrestlers right now that he's going in there with And attacking them But there's no intimidation there. It's just there's something a mask or Glue a wig to his face Well I don't know what to do with his face You know that I mean If you covered the face up you'd still have the body and even with a full body suit you'd still have The body a full body suit. He looked like the hindenburg Hey, look and he's built like the zombie sailor kinkong bunny figure And there you get, you know Okay, and somebody's gonna point to bun to oh, what about bun? But I'm just I invite everybody that is just scoffing at what we're saying to just look at what this fellow looks like is all I can say it's it's How old is it? I'm dying to know how old he is. I think he's 11 You think he's the Chernobyl cherub. That's right, uh Oh that see there you we're already selling this guy. No, we're not the Chernobyl cherub Mason The little 11 year old boy, he's he's wrestling to win money to get back to russia to Reunite with his mother and his family He's only 11 so the heels take advantage of him and then he busts out a moonsault with his big bad bad belly And then also later on he could be he could be have radioactive powers too He could make his his breasts grow unnaturally large and it just by thought It'll be interesting to see what happens now and uh, obviously this is a sign of some of the new people They're introducing to the top of nxt as a lot of the people who have been at the top are getting called up to the main roster because They're releasing wrestlers who won't take pay cuts I didn't realize the new day signed a five-year deal I just read that before They had a five-year deal. They're in year one of the five-year deal Oh, jesus and that's when they came to him and said will either cut you or you have to take half your salary That's insane I'm telling I Gallows and anderson when they did that to them years ago for much less money We're already talking a million dollars a year or whatever. It's like 750 and as soon as Remember aew debut. They had signed them to keep them away. But then when they saw aw six months later, they fucking cut them And I would have been them I would have been familiar with the street address of titan tower and price of a baseball bat at the dick sporting goods in stanford But you're signing a three month contract now to be a professional wrestler with the wwe because they hey brian They have to feed the the con family and the immanuel family and the Levec family and all the other finna shapiro family So they can all hire their family to come work there How many of those people you just named have family members that work in wwe right our emanuel's daughter I heard was working there. Yeah How long before paul of x daughters are all working there shot michaels's kids are working there There's a lot of people who get their family jobs With wwe once you're in and they seem more than ever to want just people and their families that work there So well there you've got it. Who's mason rook related to? Bastion he's the son of bastion booger. Oh come on now. You've got too far I put bastion booger in your head the other day now. You got to do this Well, I'm trying to say bastion booger giant blobs of jelly of the past Uh, but it was good luck to mason. We'll stay on top now. I'm intrigued to see him work No, we used you stay on top of mason. I'll maintain a respectful distance They see something in this guy. So I want to see him work a match. I want to see what the what they see That would cause them to do what they just did So we will stay on top of the scene is what I'm yeah I don't know if I could see something in this guy if they stood him behind an x-ray machine, but we'll we'll find out Speaking of not seeing Anything in something We must we promised that we would do this even though i'm Again clean and sober now for several weeks from awp programming I said I would keep track if they do anything really Stupid or or accidentally really great and stupid has happened a time or two But this week, uh, they did two things one was They tried hard to do something good and almost succeeded And then on the other one it was as nuts as usual, but Ted Turner passed away this past week. We talked about it You and I did on the on the drive-thru a couple days ago But on the dynamite program on wednesday night, obviously they wanted to do some kind of tribute and And that's where they started the program And Tony shavani was in the ring and you got to give it to tony He did probably the best speech presentation, you know in in what he said at the top of the program and the Honors that he gave to Ted Turner there and when he started in tbs and blah blah blah He did a wonderful job there at the top didn't he right until he got to the introduction of his his next guest But before we get there That was very good by tony. I had to applaud him for that off the top of his head in the middle of the ring Well, that's what it is off the top of his head part That was one of the best things shavani ever did because he didn't come across like a guy playing the role of wrestling announcer who's over the top He added something And he spoke from the heart and it seemed genuine There was no teleprompter. He didn't have a script That he did all that off the top of his head as smoothly as he did it Is one of the most impressive things i've ever seen him do And I thought it was a nice and a fitting tribute a fitting way to start the show at that point I knew they were gonna do something You could say what you want about tony con and a lot of people Pointed out that old tweet where he said he knows more What was it? Ted Turner doesn't know one percent of what I know about wrestling, but You know that aside that was just him being flippant Tony respects I think tony more than maybe anyone Is in love with the idea that his show is on turner network Uh tbs and tnt Yes, so it was a fitting tribute and Then it got a little for me it got a little weird Well, that's the problem because then tony introduced and here's another man who You know his career was intertwined with tbs and blah blah blah sting And sting came out he had the face paint but no makeup or face paint but no makeup face paint but no music but To tell the gods out his truth if there was a time That he should have come out with no makeup and the sunglasses on at least wouldn't that be it? If this but but he comes out I would have preferred he came out and actually thought about what he was gonna say Well, that's the next part I was gonna well unfortunately He had Brian I sting is a wonderful person That is a iconic wrestler But as someone who has tried to produce him on numerous Live interviews on television programs in the past. I'm sure he still he gave it a lot of thought And it went out there and fucking lost the plot Because that If any a few fans also here so anyway here comes Sting no music because of the somber occasion, but he still he's painted like a panda bear But a few of the fans are like holy shit. Holy shit. They forgot already they're in a tribute The fans did but then when staying got in the ring and tony You know said something to him He takes the microphone and he's wandering around the ring and he's cutting a wrestling promo about big Ted That's what we big Ted And he told the story about I swear to if if you just give one second of thought to what anybody's fucking saying He told a story about when all the executives some of them in tbs. They didn't want wrestling And he's trying to make Ted a baby face I understand that he could have said some of the executives were against the wrestling company No matter how successful we were but Ted Turner always had our backs, but instead instead he said The executives at wcw or tbs were always against the wrestling company because they'd say Ted It's always in the red Is And then Ted said don't worry about it boys. I got deep pockets. What the fuck He never said Ted Turner never said just lose as much fucking money as you want to lose He made My big Ted did big Ted And Ted Turner would make flippant remarks every once in a while when Faced with someone said well so and so is going to cost well. I got deep pockets that type but no But he's doing a wrestling promo. He's rambling around the ring. He's thanking big Ted like three or four times He told everybody that the wcw that they Remembered so fondly apparently even during the attitude era was just losing money like a goddamn sieve Ah He called them billion he called them billionaire billionaire Ted And it would Tony tried to get He is somewhere again somewhere he tried to reel him in but they've only got one microphone. So Tony gets the microphone and asks thing about the main event say well It must be great for you to be here and see darby allen to whatever the fuck And sting snatched the microphone away from Tony again and fired him up about darby And thank god now remember the Ted Turner fucking tribute is is not concluded yet He's fired him and now we've got a second all-in billionaire Tony con felon said Who's gonna go to him and say Tony? They're always in the red And But now sting has lost the tribute plot Completely and Tony gov comes back to Ted Turner and then tells the story That fans. I know this will be incredible and hard for you to believe But the if you look at the plates on the side of our tnt and tbs belts. There's actually one of the plates has a like a A little outline drawing of the old tbs studio on techwood drive That's true and Tony pointed that out and it was like he was pointing out to a doctor where he was having the kidney pain but So he talked to and Tony con designed these belts himself as a tribute to Ted Turner and tbs And then they did a ten bell salute after sting has been out there whooping like a maniac they've got two people To stand up and remain silent for this somber ten bell salute Is like a goddamn funeral service right after the indian attack on the fort? and then Sting and Tony hugged and they did a ted graphic and a Fade to black and then came up with the show open Oh and And to be honest that we talked about Ted Turner's influence that he did have a great one on the wrestling business, but There were plenty of dry eyes in the house brad nobody Whenever they would say well Ted Turner's passed away people are like reading reading They didn't particularly It could could should that have been better done maybe as a pre tape The two air before the live program began for the television audience and it played on the screen for the the folks and then get into Some programming or but then you blow the The biggest the pop was the staying entrance because he was unadvertised, but They seemed unmoved by the reason for him being there Ted Turner's unfortunate demise Well, who knows why that is and a lot of it could be because Ted Turner has not been a player on the national stage in a long time So if you're a Fan who's not my age if you're a little bit younger than me you may not know who he is Yeah, this this crowd did not seem like they came from Ted Turner's heyday Or and I think this has become really apparent as if it wasn't already, but especially the last few days The years and years of propaganda against Ted Turner that Vince McMahon was obsessed with For a lot of people it worked They really believed he was this mean billionaire had to crush the people's wwe Which of course is nonsense. I was just seeing some the other day that One time Dave Meltzer was talking to Vince McMahon about the I think it was the 92 scandal with the ring boys and Vince was telling Dave Meltzer that Ted Turner is behind it He's had a weird obsession with Ted Turner for a long time, but it played out in public Ted Turner has not been around in a very long time wcw went out of business in 2001 Or was sold in 2001 That may be it I think a video would have been nice. I don't know what they would have used but they would have It's Turner networks. You gotta think they would have something there I would think some of his home movies were laying around. I thought it started really well This was the best of Tony Shibani. I thought it ended okay Giving him the 10 bells was the right thing to do Sting needed to read the room or just I mean don't invite him to speak at your funeral. I guess is the point I don't know what he's gonna say And then big Brian he said I got balls of steel, baby I never heard him call big Ted before I heard him call big Ted like five times in this fucking thing big I think Sting forgot what his name was a big uh Ted But nevertheless, uh that happened on the program and Again, they were also it was not a demonstrative crowd because it was not a large crowd They were 2,300 people apparently they were in north charleston, south carolina and I know Some people are going to say Why the fuck is the north isn't it charleston, south carolina? In in whatever fashion and it's happened over the years the city of charleston, which is right on the ocean down there It's on the very bottom of south carolina The now the big arena that is there and they've spread out and the city of north charleston is like Whereas the city the the old city of charleston still retains some of its Anti-bellum charm and you know, uh fucking old fashioned architecture and etc North charleston is the big deal hoppin area of town apparently now And it's It's right north of downtown you would have never guessed that would you Brian? I feel like I'm there listen if you describe this you feel like you you're literally on the streets of But here's the thing I Know people might think well, that's the old carolina territory. Do you know the one town? Of all others in the actual core north carolina gym Crockett promotions territory that I hated to be booked in above all others Was it north charleston charleston south carolina? because It was not a big money town even in the boom period of Crockett promotions in the 80s now back in the 50s and 60s and 70s you've seen the stories of mike mooney ham has put out a lot of the articles when he did the post courier column and You know histories of the carolinas have talked about charleston promoter Henry marcus the county hall And the way that they used to pack the building out The county hall was a smaller building, but I can see where if you could If you could use the balcony by the time that we started working there in the mid 80s that had been condemned They were afraid if you let people up there it would fall off the wall But it was one of those old buildings where in the back in the day You could have jammed 2,500 people in that fucking thing and they ran it every week and it was a Hot building with crowd heat and temperature heat. It would have been a fantastic atmosphere, right? But by the 80s for whatever reason First they never stopped until the mid 80s going to county hall and They renovated it and over the years they made it a king street palace. I think it was a theater and then They renovated it again and made it a part of a Like condominium Fucking complex or whatever But it was a historic building, but by then it was a piece of shit. It had to be It was built in at least the 20s and the Curtain that was hanging on the stage because it was kind of like an auditorium type of thing Where you had a big stage with those big 40-foot high velvet curtains And then a big arena floor where you could play basketball It's like a basketball floor and then a upper balcony so you could get a lot of people in there And they did political conventions and everything in that building since the like I said the roaring 20s But the curtain smelled so much like mildew if you walk too close to it. It would knock you down to make your eyes water and the goddamn balcony had been as I said It condemned where you couldn't let people in it because it was dangerous and there were those two and three inch long coastal roaches Running around in the corners of the locker rooms that were still heated with fucking radiators And no and nobody was coming And then they went to another building and I can't even remember because this by then it was not a regular town for Crockett He only ran it every so often. Columbia was every two weeks. Greenville was every Monday night other places at spartenberg south but not charleston and Then even then when wcw took over and was running the newer building in north charleston Or the wwf and there had you know, it wasn't a big money town And of all the places in south carolina that you could run I'd stay away from fucking charleston I don't know. It just it don't work MLW moved there. Did you hear that? After that was that Was that because they thought they could draw a crowd down there just because court moved there to be on the beach after you got the 20 million Where could I go that msl won't find me? I know charleston Hmm But I mean there's great restaurants and there's wonderful like I said the old 1800 southern architecture And it's a very artsy community, but it hasn't Been a big money wrestling market Since the 70s and then it was just it wasn't big money. It was just consistent It was a couple thousand people, you know every week packing the little building Well, that's what they're looking for from everything I've seen from the upcoming dynamite That wrestle ticks has been tracking the ticket sales for seems like everything's kind of in that range 2000 Maybe at most 3000 The average dynamite that's the crowd they're looking for and those are the buildings they're trying to book Well, maybe it maybe they could have The next show they do down there Tony con can talk to the condominium people and see if they can just rent several of the condos Just open up everybody's doors and it'll still work like the the old county hall Henry Marcus Yeah, the the condos But yeah, Henry Marcus the promoter who I think he had to be 95 when he passed away a while back or whatever But he was the the last link when we were there to the old jim Crockett senior days and All the local promoters of each town he was here's a real pep. He was a real piece of work Oh, Henry Marcus. He was about five foot three and probably weighed 16 pounds because he was mostly made of dust by that point Alrighty speaking of people that weigh 16 pounds and look like they're made out of dust What were you gonna say real quick? I have an update one of my neighbors is posted on facebook They had two bears at their property last night. So there's another one on the loose Oh now is this one of these fucking neighborhood bear measuring contests No one's measuring oh well you had two but well, I had three bears over at my place There are so many fucking cameras in this neighborhood. Everyone's like bragging like look look at the shots I got this other person got shots too Well, you ought to write this guy back as hey look the bear ate my dog and one of my children How about that? Why would I do that? I just see if he can top it It's a sheet Well, then she's gonna have to work on her. Oh shit. The bear just came right into the camera. Oh, man. It's right up the nose. Oh my god Oh, that's so amazing Is this live? No, this is oh, I don't know how I can look at why are you screaming? I was doing live I thought I thought the bear had attacked the woman with the camera. No, it would have been going I kill bears Take me So this is a stationary camera. This is not a camera that the woman was holding when the bear attacked the woman No with the camera. That's just a camera friendly bear just a typical it's a yogi It's a picnic basket Well boo boo speaking of boo boo's What about we're gonna keep everybody up on they had a main event in aw That could tell a story we've talked about this Will osprey mjf The one thing that I've been keeping up on that they've been doing is with each of those guys in aw because I wanted to see how badly they could botch this whole thing And we've said if you want to look back on the youtube channel for the previous clips We've told the story of what they could have done With osprey and mjf going to wimbley stadium, but instead mjf loses the title to darby Then mjf gets beat by kevin night. Meanwhile fugging osprey was beaten by everybody including the front desk clerk at the hotel and is resorted to training with the The top heel group because they've told him that he's basically an idiot doesn't know what he's doing And he's a loser because he's he got Beats so bad by the midcard baby face that he the doctor had to stop it I could go on So this week Not only is osprey still training with the the heels brian But mjf is trying to get his world title back from darby allen who beat him in two minutes a few weeks ago and but This week darby allen beat kevin night two baby faces Had a match took him Everything he could do to beat kevin night kevin night's the guy that beat mjf last week So both these guys have beaten mjf. So mjf comes out as the The third horse in a three-horse race And challenges darby to get his title shot back so he can win his belt blah blah blah Brian If you were darby allen Wouldn't you if somebody offered you a hot meal and a warm pair of socks at this point would you he just They expected people to believe this is When you have mjf who got over and was first notable for seeming real and and Working and telling the truth in this spin where you couldn't tell one from another He has to come out there and he has to say to darby fucking allen Okay What about if I put up my scarf? What about if I put up my diamond ring? Well that actually Could be a wrestling stipulation Darby don't want that All right. What about if I put up One million dollars And the people just sat there Because what the It's just ridiculous Not only the offer but the response when darby allen said No I used to sleep in my car and be homeless, man I don't I do your money means nothing to me It seems like if you had been lowered to having to sleep in your car and be homeless like the irresponsible post adolescent loser that you were That you'd want that million dollars So you never had to resort to that level of some subhuman existence again Well, there's a difference between people who live in their car because they have to And they don't have options and people who live in their car because they choose to because they want that experience I think he had he was wanting the experience because he had no choice but to have the experience I don't know Considering that this guy's been a fuck up at every other aspect of his life one would imagine but nevertheless But the point is a million dollars brian Even I know everybody's smart And it's all show business But would it be Maybe just a tad bit more ridiculous if he said how about my spaceship I'll put my spaceship up. I will give you all of my sperm Well now that might be realistic The uh the million dollars thing did seem a bit comical just because it was No one believed it. I mean no one believes it if you're saying things that no one believes went by the time you say it Then you should probably have something else to say The diving rink didn't seem realistic And yeah, the and it's a wrestling stipulation right the scarf is the the thing that the heel offers It's meaningless and trivial to be a little of the baby face And then the dynamite ring would be a wrestling stipulation And then Mjav could have said look darby. I'm obviously more successful than you are and I have a much better contract and I'm also A bit rich from the start. So here's a blank check And just take the blank make it a blank check instead of saying an amount And if you're gonna have him turn it down because they can say I don't care how much money you offer me, but he hasn't just turned down a ridiculous fucking offer Like dan houses out here. It was a spaceship and a blimp and a goddamn billboard And then darby Kessa probably said this is great too. I want something dear to you and nearer to you I want to take something away from you. That's wonderful baby face motivation But then he says I want what you flew 15 hours to turkey for I want your hair I Should Here's a thing Besides the fact that they're using it at an angle. How did anybody find out That mjf flew to turkey 15 hours each way to get a hair transplant I can understand if a guy shows up and he's got a hair I believe me. I question stan lane But the stan said, oh, yeah, I got this thing in jersey the fucking turkey And besides stan said that to me and broadcasted around the entire goddamn wrestling world Would mjf have admitted that he went all the way to turkey for a hair transplant And now they're just they're just using it in promos Wouldn't that be something that you would Like the old days when the hollywood actress went off in seclusion to have a fucking abortion or whatever the case You would think it's something that would be kept quiet. I first saw I think I first saw it online with one of the aw wrestlers Kind of having a guy got worked Back and forth with mjf on twitter and they said it and my first thought was oh, he must have given him permission to say this did he get a hair transplant because I'm not saying he had a big thick head of hair, but it wasn't all gone or anything So the idea that he came back If he did have a hair transplant he didn't say anything. I don't know too many people would have noticed So that's I mean if that they've called attention to it you can look at it and say yeah, it does look different but Before the worst thing that you might have thought was he's using a can of that wahoo mcdaniel fucking spray black or whatever But now they're talking about him going to number one if he told him Why would you tell somebody you fucking so vain that you went to fucking turkey to get hair transplants? That's stupid But if he didn't tell him somebody else told him if he's not telling them it's okay to talk about Not believe I'd add some words with people But but again this whole goddamn thing It even in a standard wrestling angle okay hair versus title they find some way to devalue A member of the goddamn match at the same time So mjf got fake hair. He went to turkey for But nevertheless so now mjf is going to win the belt back so apparently darby got to win it in his hometown Despite the fact that it made no sense to this story whatsoever and just derailed mjf's momentum unnecessarily But then mjf gets to win it back in new york So hopefully he can still defend against the fucking loser A baby face that has been beaten like a drum and is being smartened up and trained by the top heal group To come back and win in his hometown If they come to louisville should I just go down to win the belt real quick Yeah, I think that'd be a good idea Make a few bucks next week is darby versus okada for the title So we have a little bit of a ways to get to mjf and darby You know hair versus title a kind of you would think secure it's either darby's losing the belt or mjf has a Movie role is one of the baldies. I mean those are the two options here I don't know how that works if you get a hair transplant. Can you just shave your head and it looks nice. Did you shave it? Yeah I don't know how that works. I don't know anything. I wouldn't be goddamn tested the parameters of it if it was me And he's not the only guy in the business who's gone to turkey He's just the only one who seems to have talked about it enough so that they made it into something. I don't again I don't get it But that's their big match and they've got almost a sellout. I think at Satchmoe stadium louis armstrong stadium Satchmoe stadium and also is that's the first time that anybody's ever said that a lot of the guys in the business have gone to turkey Yeah, I think it is I think it is since a lot of the turkeys this business have gone to pot Well, we'll we'll keep track on everybody's what appendages they're losing hair belts Various types of things such as that you know what they're not losing What's that? They're boots You know what they're not they should burn them in the middle of the ring quite a few of them But they're wrestling boots not their work boots because even Even the guys in the business Have come to realize that you may want to wrestle in wrestling boots But when it comes to getting out in the mud and the muck and the blood and the beer And the bullshit on the farm And all actually the bullshit anywhere that you may live The brunt work wear boots are the ones you need to wear And that's why I've talked about these and Brian. I was out just a couple of days ago The Monroe brother it's spring has come early in the Ohio Valley because the warmer temperatures the Leaves are all out now. So I'd walk the property. Does the sassafras tree in the back We soiled drenched it, but it ain't doing very good The maple tree is just overtaking it. 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Oh god Oh god It was it as again as exciting and interesting and Captivating and or whatever at various points that the von eric documentary was whether it was the highs when they were The king rock stars of dfw or whether it was the lows or whether just whatever This was just a A redemption piece to get people and the people that hate shan michael's Then had to come out and say but now he's a great guy I just but also I thought it just It was slow And it was repetitive And for a guy that had more exciting matches Then almost anybody else in the business You didn't see that much of them Did they just catch me on a on an off day or did you Particularly were you captivated by this? I can't say I was captivated You know when I watched this the thought that popped into my head funny enough was To the victor Go the spoils Him and triple H played the long game and now it's their narrative and it's their history They still can't tell the truth about montreal. They leave out all sorts of shit And change history They pretend like shan was a bigger deal than he was when he was the worst drawing wwe champion other than diesel in history Which was right around the same time people started going to wcw nitro and watching that so I mean there's a lot of revisionist history I always feel around how big shan michaels was not to say he wasn't Great in the ring. He's one of the all-time best in the ring. But as I always said it Sean michaels had the best performances bret hart had the best matches and Those are what matter more than single performances, which are just you doing everything you can to get yourself over well, the the bigger thing was consistency and reliability and That's what you had with bret instead of shan, but nevertheless the They tell the story at the start they even have bret say well, he was a first-rate asshole and undertaker said I wouldn't have pissed on shan michaels if he was on fire and these were True statements, but then They had to come back later. Oh now he's great, but we'll get there He was a kid in san antonio texas watching southwest wrestling We heard that And then he went to wrestling school And then he started in mid-south wrestling And that was pretty much the coverage of his rookie time, but They they said he was a natural like that he was just that good Instantly And that's not necessarily the way to phrase it. You could tell he was a good Kid with a lot of potential Like with a few times on tv and and in a couple of House shows we worked with him at that point When Watts had ran those towns every two weeks and if you didn't have A particular made event program match sometimes he would just put the top guys in with Two guys on the card to go get them over right So we wrestled shan michaels and Whoever bryda deus. I can't remember But he bobby would do spots with shan michaels Because he he was good and he did if you called something he was there for it And he had some oomph to him and he didn't hurt anybody But he was a green kid with excellent prospects But then suddenly They had him joining marty genetti and forming the team Joining marty genetti and forming the midnight rockers and Then they debuted in the wwf at two years later it just completely glossed over The midnight rockers he and marty Did they were they put together and did verne do it or did they do it in the central states first The gardeners just showed up. That's another story. They did it for verne in the central states. It was marty and It was marty and tommy rogers not the real tommy rogers the other tommy tommy lane, I believe tommy lane And then they put the midnight rockers together. Of course, they left the awa to go to the can you talk a little louder over the go over the The the tractors back there. They were supposed to come yesterday, but obviously when it rains they have to come the next day So yesterday it didn't rain. So I don't know why they're here right now I'll have to talk to someone But what I was gonna say when you stop laughing you are just having all sorts of fun on my property that I'm not having today What I was trying to say is they got fired from the wwf remember they brought them in the summer of 87 They worked a set of tapings and made fools of themselves and yes, then they went to work from Memphis again and continental and came back in 88 a year later Well, and that's what I'm saying. They just said well and I got together with marty genetic and they showed a couple clips of the midnight rockers and then went right to the 88 wwf debut so Two years of their career Boom and But again The midnight rockers were a great in-ring babyface tag team. They were Vern's answer to the midnight express to rock and roll express because in 1986 when anybody thought about a tag team feud and wrestling it was a midnight to rock and roll so that's There was a little consternation from both of our parts when all of a sudden they got the midnight rockers. What the fuck is that But the problem was Vern's business was Going you know down fast at that point time the rockers had a good program with who buddy rose and dug summers And they also worked with Dennis country and Randy rose with Paulie the original midnight and It was just Vern wasn't going to do any business regardless of who was on the roster but Yeah, they just skipped over that as well as the drama which kind of even would Further their point of Michaels being such a pill no pun intended back in those days that they came in their first night got fired Exiled for a year But nevertheless And then they glossed over their run Again in the wwf fairly quickly and with all of the footage of him just hugging these fucking kids in a wrestling school For an hour and a half documentary they could have spent a minute and a half on some of this shit But then he split up with Marty pretty instantly and Sean said I don't know anybody that gets into this to be a tag team I Actually probably 50 brother tag teams over the last hundred years would want to word with you as well but nevertheless You could tell that he had no loyalty whatsoever to Marty genetic his partner and he wanted to be the guy And but yeah, that's why three minutes was spent on the rockers with a three-year career no no stories of the stuff etc Bruce Prichard is wearing makeup just to sit down and be a talking head for a Documentary I just so weird-looking it's like a future Mason Rook Mason Rook was put in time machine But never the land by the way when you see me on dark side of the ring folks That's just that's that I'm here in my own home just all natural Just the way God intended me to be let me ask you something cuz some people think I'm too hard on Bruce Prichard whenever we review of these things How do you think he comes across? Well, I mean partially because I know the situation maybe but I think even the The candid viewer would say okay. This is the guy that's with the office and is telling the office Point of view cuz he's He's always He's the one that either has to kind of make Some type of explanation for why that they did something like that that's stupid whatever that is or to take up for the the company line When the talent's getting out of control or whatever the fuck it's the It's the party line. It's the office propaganda. Everybody kind of figures that don't they? He never says anything inflammatory about anybody He also at times doesn't say that I mean the version of Montreal that he was spitting out there At least how it was edited in this thing was You know left out a whole bunch of things a whole bunch of Vince McMahon induced things But he's the voice of it's a party line It's the voice of Vince cuz you know instead of like I did this if you notice Bruce I was like we decided to do this we did this as if he was the one making the decision Well, no, it comes a close. I don't think people I don't think they In the company understand to the average person I don't think Bruce Prichard comes across as an honest guy or how smuggish he may be easy Just kind of a sleazy smuggish guy. Yeah, but but here's the thing if he says we then there's more than one person if he says I Then he's accepting blame from somebody for something if he says we It's like well, we were in a group and the group just thought you know Just slide the heat to the side They had a NXT writers meeting which consists of a room full of pasty-faced white guys and 120-something year old girl That's Learning from Shawn Michaels how to teach the next generation to my god That's the thing is Everybody Diversely agrees that Shawn Michaels in the 1990s was a goddamn dick Just a fucking flaming Dumpster fire of a nightmare to know to be around to have to deal with Taft fucking if you were on the booking team He made your job, but it was already challenging enough even harder trying to work for Vince McMahon and deal with a goddamn Drug addicts sways of fancy from one direction to the other If you were one of the boys in the locker room unless you were in his little boys treehouse club You were subject to ridicule and fucking burial If anybody that he came in contact with it was more difficult Whatever you were doing if he was around But now everybody says he's lovely But I ain't met him since he's been lovely and I don't believe That our goddamn pass are ever gonna cross because I can't believe he'd come to Louisville and knock on the door Is he am I gonna spot him at fucking Kroger? So I'm sorry, I never got this the the good Shawn Michaels all I ever saw was the motherfucker It was making my life harder pissing me off personally and Pissing me off indirectly because the manner in which he talked to and treated Other friends of mine and everybody does goddamn environment and the way that they Treated the wrestling business and wiped their feet on the guy that was paying them while As you mentioned earlier not setting the goddamn box office on fire and They I'll say one more thing while I'm on the subject all this goddamn shit in here about all the pressures Of being the champion and the guy in the heaviness and the self doubt God to buck up Buck up kiddo You fucking little twat You were one of the highest paid people in your chosen profession in the entire industry You were the champion of the goddamn company If you didn't think you could handle the job don't goddamn ask for don't politic for it Don't cut people's balls off to get it Because I know a lot of other people that had that position that didn't have to take 18,000 different kind of pills and because they were miserable and filled with self doubt and fucking oh my god fuck you Is it if you're a Chris Candido And you're a wonderful kid who's helpful to everybody and works hard and never says Anything sideways about anybody and then you undergo your drug problems, then you're entitled to get some sympathy But if you're a goddamn irresponsible adolescent dick From the start of the time that you get any recognition in the wrestling business Up until the time that you have to retire allegedly because of a back injury and are still paid By the guy that you fucked around on numerous occasions To not wrestle for the next four years And your contract Coincidentally expires right about the time you discover the career-ending injury Wasn't career-ending and you can do this shit like he always did for another six or seven years Fuck you, I'm sorry Well, I'm glad we're getting your Getting your honest assessment here because not everyone would say that what are your thoughts on this narrative that the whole thing about the click It wasn't guys just protecting their spot and fucking over everyone else It was about guys who loved the business so much that they got into the car and talked about it Yes, they did they loved the business so much that they got in the car and they talked about it What can we do with each other in this group and keep everybody out? How can we get paid the most money? How can we work with each other and Get Vince McMahon to bend to our will when they weren't all everybody really except for Nash So goddamn by around in triple H Bombed out of their fucking heads that they could barely think at all That's what they were doing and it's only the people who still have to deal with them That are so but now everything's and just then him everything's great. No everything wasn't great then Y'all were a bunch of adolescents self-serving imbeciles He made everybody's job harder And I didn't like my job to begin with at the time So fuck you double I Wrote at one point uncooperative self-absorbed assholes except for Waltman And they're living the rock and roll life Well don't live the rock and roll life save your fucking money be a goddamn grown adult Take care of yourself Vince wanted to live vicariously through Sean Michaels as we mentioned although it was not said here But that's why he switched him baby face so he could achieve Vince's boyhood dream And he won the title and then Sean says I was a gloomy Gus. Oh the pressure the responsibilities I didn't handle it. Well, I didn't have the maturity you think Did they mention Jose Lothario at all in this? I don't remember if they said he was seen on camera never no never referred to once Um, and that's another guy that you know, he just he buried that whole thing because he didn't want I guess he thought Jose would block him from getting pussy or something if he was in the corner. I don't fucking know But anyway And then he got pissed off at Holland Nash when they went to WCW because he did because the plan all along was they He would work with them. They would all work with each other Hey, but then he said I lost my support system it was a scary time again If you're a 30 year old man and you have to have your friends around when you're being paid a goddamn fortune And you are the best performer in ring In the business at that time Fuck grow up or don't do this Don't be a high maintenance problem child Bruce Purchard said he collapsed under pressure and lashed out that the drugs were slightly mentioned downplayed until Finally then they had to admit Sean said I was a functioning drug addict And then he lost his smile I'm just telling you I was there the morning that Vince was on the phone with the fucking Sean in the other room and would come back. Well, Sean's gonna have to take time off. What? Sean says he's gone to the doctor This could be a career-ending knee injury But I never I never heard the diagnosis of an ACL tear I was thinking or under the impression that we were talking cartilage, but nevertheless Vince was both Resigned to it that he's he's gonna come he's gonna give the belt back But at the same time as we all were Skeptical about it because Suddenly he's been he's been working like he's been working and suddenly he's gone to the doctor and they say you can never wrestle again They left out the Marine who beat him up Oh, well, that was a different time, but that was not talked about. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that was not talked about But the point being He was fucked up on drugs and he was a mental fucking wreck because he's goddamn was a fucking mental wreck but instead of Admitting to that even to Vince at that point he does this bullshit where he's lost his smile And he gave the belt back and told everybody his career was over with his knee injury And he's back in two months and he said well dr. Andrew said you could rehab it and put a brace on it Oh fuck That would have been in the initial consultation And that ain't a full ACL tear if the doctor's telling you that Well, and as a matter of fact if if anybody's gonna go out coordinates talking out of his ass again Hello McFly. I've had one of each left and right ACL and I had the diagnoses these and It no it You could tear your ACL fully and you can do rehab and you can put a brace on it and you can work people have done it of Fucking terry gordy did it for quite some time but that option Would have been presented especially by dr. James Andrews of Birmingham, Alabama If he said your your ACL is torn he would have said here's the things we can do The surgery for full reattachment. It'll be x amount of time out and this and that And fucking we can scope it and clean it out and it'll be less time out, but you'll still have the ACL torn as you're gonna have to brace it or you can do that whatever It wouldn't be like You can never wrestle again. Oh, but wait, maybe just put a brace on And he's back in two months and it just again this was endless with this fucking guy They told the truth that Brett and Shawn hated each other I've mentioned before that dx to me was the worst part of attitude era tv and i'm talking about the michaels and helmsley Not with the road dog and billy and later on but michaels and helmsley brought out the worst of each other It was juvenile And bad taste it made wrestling look like fucking jackass Which is why russo loved it But while they're austin and brett and undertaker and Those gaffoli are going out there and They're digging into it and they're getting over and they're working hard these two are jacking off telling dick jokes sorry Uh montreal was Ridiculous again. I mean they couldn't even tell if they did an hour and a half documentary. They could have told the real story Uh because it's been done and it still hasn't been but they they don't try here Same old bullshit. They triple h. He couldn't be allowed to go to wcw with the belt Uh, but nevertheless, they don't talk about the fact that brett hard had creative control In his contract when he they don't talk about the fact that vince didn't think he was going with the belt Just he was going without losing the fucking belt. They say bruce picture's like brett opened up negotiations with wcw No, vince told him to vince told him i'm not going to want to pay you anymore Open up negotiations with them The whole the whole way triple h It's really triple h and bruce picture present montreal Is dishonest and disingenuous show michael's lies less than they do About what happened there Excuse the ball just i was stoned and i was an asshole Yeah, yeah, i don't know what the fuck it happened Uh, so you can go back folks and and on our youtube channel and we do the deep dive the montreal omnibus is up there Some of it's with the previous microphones. So please excuse us Uh, he took the bump michaels did on the casket and ruptured the discs in his back I have replayed that goddamn bump. I wanted to catch him at the time like i'll find it. He didn't hit that fucking thing But again, you don't believe you don't believe the back injury story, right? I Here's the thing maybe he maybe his back was injured Maybe it was injured by that. Maybe it was injured some other way I have a hard time believing it was a career Ending injury that ended the his career up until the time that his contract ended at which point He came back and was as good as ever for the next seven fucking years That's i just that's so convenient And bruce said well, there was a career ending injury, but he desperately wanted to be in shape for wrestlemania Bullshit We we didn't know until the time he walked to the ring whether he's gonna show up and actually go out there and do that thing And remember the days leading up to the it was in boston I was at that miserable hotel. They put me in the first night with no air conditioning The shot he wanted bodyguards. He wanted a separate place to fucking dress He didn't want to show up for to do something or another Then the he was sending h3h out with messages across the pond or whatever It was Yeah, they also don't say in there that as soon as he left them around the locker room got better instantly But he did say he went off the rails from taking too many prescription pills But he did the job for austin He sold his back all through that match for the gorilla position. I still maintain Because here's the here's another thing that a lot of people don't realize all through that match. He was illustrating how much pain his back was in right? right when a guy Is working And he's really hurt But the fans aren't supposed to know The boys know whatever the fuck But the fans are the you will do everything That you cannot to sell something you're not supposed to be fucking selling Unless it's part of the story if it's a real injury you try like hell When I went to ring with paulie with the bad knee that time. I was tried like hell not to fucking limp He's the he's the the best in-ring seller of the era the ricky morton of the 90s You would have thought that back with my god was gonna fall in half That's what I'm saying Anyway, you're convincing me you're convincing me more and more the more you talk about this I'm just telling you his career was over. He had the back surgery By their dates like nine months after fucking resulmane he had back surgery By the way, is anybody ever seen a scar? One Again, I talked to somebody said yeah, he saw a scar on his back. It was about an inch and a half long I'm not saying he didn't have something done, but He didn't have a goddamn broomstick put up his spine as They had footage of him trying to do be a local sportscaster And opened it up the wrestling school and he's telling a story. Hey, my career is over I'm looking for a another career. You know the local sportscasters. They make 75 a hundred grand In the 90s in san Antonio, but nevertheless, vince was still paying him He had a contract vince paid his contract while he after he retired to the end of it, which the end of it Was not too far in front of when he came back called triple h say, you know, listen, could I do this one more time? And by the way, I don't think he could have done local sportscaster I don't think he's made for that even his promos before he got really really stoned And they just became you know him saying wacky shit. They were never really that great I think the best talking I've ever seen was him talking about himself in this Was the most acceptable and natural I've ever seen him He didn't seem natural as a sportscaster in the clips they showed which are the ones they picked But anyway, and then he He saw one of the nitro girls on tv So he got her number and called her up and they met and they got married two weeks later or whatever I but then They had a kid And then she realized he was on a million drugs And so that's why with the kid and the wife He got religion and started wearing a cross and Got off one crutch and onto another But apparently became a nicer person You see terry taylor Yes, and that's Again, it's a pattern in the wrestling business when you have managed to piss off Almost everybody that you've ever known and nobody will speak to you anymore then you find religion And then everybody feels like they have to You know be nice to you now because well, he he was saved and he's born again Sean michaels I heard the news he was born again. I wasn't moved because I wasn't really in favor of the first one So When his contract had expired with the wwf and he was no longer being paid by 2002 He wanted to see if he could have one more match with triple h And suddenly he was as good as he ever was and he came back full time And had his redemption run where? For the umpteenth time that he had claimed in his life a career ending injury this time He came back and had the greatest wrestling matches that anybody never had of all time And Now everything is love and peace and joy with the family and he loves his job and the kids love him and his Daughter does hair and makeup and his son works in the art department And his son is a fucking giant It's apparently like six foot eight and four hundred pounds. I don't know And we were only an hour into this thing And i'm like what the fuck else is left in the two flare retirement or the flare retirement match And the two undertaker matches Undertaker was sitting there in boston ready to fucking beat the shit out of him at gorilla If he didn't drop the belt to austin the right way And 10 years later, they're having the greatest matches of all time and and they're all friends Uh And in michael's retires again, but triple h takes over in xt But then shan comes to orlando on a family vacation And while he's in orlando for two weeks with his wife and two children He decides to believe texas moved there and take a job working there Do you think that was an oversimplification possibly brine of a story that Because his best friend is running the thing Well, maybe i mean This is all again a few minutes earlier. It was i saw the night truck girl on tv and i ordered her and then we got married I just yeah, there's a lot of weird. What the fuck? And a ton more compliments about his work at nxt and i wrote this is some boring love festing And then triple h has the heart issue and shan steps in to Take over nxt, but then nxt 2.0 comes about the upheaval i wrote in quotes They never mentioned that it was vents that hijacked the thing and sent it all to hell and made it a goddamn nickleodian show They just said what was it like management or of some upper force? And they all rolled with that There was one part earlier too where triple h was talking about how he first got shone into nxt and It was just about like, you know, i wanted someone here in case He said i wanted someone here to be me In case i got called up and he like stopped himself. Yeah to do raw or smackdown to do raw smackdown. What? So, yeah, you know, they basically the only person that said vince's name and this may have been brett They were trying Triple h and shan were trying triple h is thinking the old man's got to go sooner or later and i'll get this thing And in shan, i'll have you running the school but then vince jumped in for Throwing things into chaos over the last few years And they had more footage of shan coaching talent And then i looked and it They were starting to have people like say a pithy comment about him like oh, he's done this for me or he's done that for me I could always count on whatever and it's like the rap right where you said they're building for the finish But it seemed like they've been building for the finish for like 10 minutes and i looked at the fucking thing When they went to a commercial break which by the way you get In on the peacock And they had like 10 or 15 minutes left at the end to come back on and i said i can't My mind is numb. We're already up to 2020 fucking three What has he done in the last two years that are worth 15 minutes? And it just He's got he's got a story they could tell if they wanted to tell it Uh, there wasn't that great an amount of exciting footage. It was a lot. It was a redemption story for him. It was his best friend probably told production Hey make people not like hate shan anymore, please because he's Nice now or something And that's the only reason for this television program Please pretend like shan drew money and didn't drive away viewers to wcw nitro Which is exactly what happened exactly what i saw happening in real time and they never addressed that You saw it happening in real time Jesus crazy imagine imagine when somebody when you'd go in in the mornings and people had to put the fucking numbers in front of you You know what the fuck and then you try to do something that might draw in halfway through it He loses his smile Or he changes his mind Or he don't want to work with that guy. He wants to work with the guy that's lighter on him That's why i brought up the mirror where he started a riot because he got peeled up and the fans didn't like him and he wouldn't work I forgot about that. They didn't even bring that up. What was that little rock? little rock Danny hodge was in the ring and they were rioting and setting shit on fire Well, there it is the uh axle rose he got he he got pissed while we got the call the next day But he got pissed in little rock because it was again the attitude era the early days of that 97 where they're acted off and the fans are throwing shit because that's cool on nwo television 2 And my god, i've been in little rock where if they weren't hand grenades you didn't give a fuck as long as they weren't throwing those He wouldn't go out he fucking walked out on the thing Didn't have the match stood to pit Danny hodge was a special referee goddamn all-time icon Wouldn't fucking work and the goddamn people set shit on fire Ah But anyway, it's just so interesting with triple h and shaw michael's being in charge because how would they deal with Two guys who behave the way they did Oh, you know what that would be. Well, you can't have that anymore because Nobody's acts like that anymore and all the contracts and various business deals would prevent it, but If those two had to deal with those two Triple h better double up on his heart medicine Anyway, that was the uh I've had the same opinion all it based on every interaction i've had with shaw michael's was the most tremendous in ring performers of all time and irresponsible adolescent pill-addled fucking jerk I guess that's one of the things people wait to hear if anything that we see with him Will change your mind, but you being someone who lived through it. Apparently he's not anymore, but well, he's you know what he should have goddamn met the nitro girl and had a kid and Fucking changed his self around before I met him and then I just love him and love him and I'd squeeze him and hug him and call Him george, you know what the funny part too is about him seeing his wife on tv and being like I want that That means he wasn't watching raw Yeah Again for either one of them you one would think It just calls somebody up have a date have fun. Okay, then let's start a relationship or whatever But we're what short period was it they met they were married in literally like a month or whatever And I've said Jesus Christ that That was certainly wonderful reconnaissance. Y'all did on everybody. Maybe she'd have figured out that he was on on the medications Anyhow So that's on peacock and they do show how one of the ways he did Brett dirty when he did that promo and said Are you you're not a very moral person on the road or whatever he said just oh, yeah He said I've seen you on don't hold yourself up as a icon of morality I've seen you on the road and everything that And what was brett's wife's name at the time julie julie. Yeah, it caused heat It and and then sunny right there And a sunny day right there brett was want to just jump him and beat the fuck out of him and said that's the thing Is brett I think showed tremendous restraint because there wasn't any doubt in anybody's mind what would happen If he actually did have a fight with shawen And the brief skirmishes they did have You know bore that out, but there was no doubt in anybody's mind, but brett restrained himself from just beating the fuck out of him Because he was it was wrestling and you're not supposed to do that To guys in the locker room, but you also weren't supposed to try to get Heat on guys with their wife on national television either I still expect one day you're gonna call me up mc brine. You're never gonna guess what I found. I found a clump of hair No, I know where it is. I don't have it, but I know where did my my my ex Possesses that oh, I thought it was lost. I didn't realize she had it. Oh, okay. 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No Once again ridge.com slash jce comedy aside that is the promo code in the link zap Oh, you know brian before we go any further I was going to bring this up earlier in in the program and I got distracted but I have here Was not a brochure. It was an email. It was sent out I guess to every goddamn body in the world from the wwe Announcing this new thing they've got for summer slam this new attraction and basically they're going to have a A tryout like a wrestling school try out for nxt or a tryout for their training developmental program But the fans can buy tickets VIP packages are going fast watch the next generation Of wwe superstars compete for their shot With vip access you will join Sean michaels wwe coaches and superstars For an inside look at what it takes to make it in the wwe Your thoughts so far before I tell you what you get in this In this package when you when you grab ahold of their package. This is what you get evil greedy And also brilliant whoever thought about having a wrestling school and selling tickets to watch the training or the tryouts You're not just going there. This is vip a vip experience. Oh, yeah I They might let you get in and take a fucking backdrop It's not listed here, but your your vip and there's a big picture of shon michaels with his cowboy hat on and he's smiling He's smiling Your vip experience can include access to live wwe tryouts new Vote for your favorite participant now you can get to pick who they pick to pick over q&a with shon michaels wwe coaches and superstars wwe superstar meet and greets exclusive cooler Cool cooler what an exclusive cooler. Well now I gotta go A tryout t-shirt and lunch is included. Maybe they give you the lunch in the cooler It's like frozen baloney and a fucking loaf of bread. I like that you get the tryout shirt So you can go home and pretend that you actually try it out. Yeah If somebody had tried to pry there well one of the fans are just any civilian member of the public not involved in the wrestling business Had tried to pry their way into the davis arena with a crowbar to see the tryouts Danny davis would have fucking plucked their eyeballs out Had thrown their limp carcass into fucking parking lot to rot Infestor where the vultures would come in in the summer sun But you see if you guys had really been visionaries and had a bunch of extra coolers lying around maybe you could have done something like this A q&a with shon michaels, you know what the first question's gonna be shon. Hey shon. No, no i'm over here. I'm over here Oh, hey Is there a magicians school? I don't know I actually just got my daughter the uh national geographic magic kids So she'll go play around with some of the basics The national geographic magic kit. What is it's like voodoo spells from zimbabwe or what the how does national geographic figure into Magic, I think it's national geographic. It's just branding. It's just some kind of See you got your you got your small child You're boodoo kit. You don't even know what some brand of it is. Why would you say these things? He's gonna be casting spellings. He's gonna be sticking a pin and a doll of you here later on tonight What the fuck are you doing? It is national geographic. I just went to amazon to see what I bought. It's national g What do they have to do with magic? Now that you're bringing us up nothing nothing at all, but it's a trusted brand So when I saw that it was them bringing me the magic I thought I could trust them. Oh, Jesus Christ. Here's the commercial. I trusted brand and magic national geographic will take your kids to places They've never been before around the world and strand them there. I trust them on natives. I trust them on tortoises Trust them on when you're when you're in the market for natives you only supply I trust them enough that when looking here they have a whole bunch of magic science magic kit Amazing reactions kit It's a chemistry kit. Oh national geographic chemistry Oh National geographic mega science lab make your own lsd apparently. I like this one national geographic gross science kit Make slime creepy stem project for boys and girls dissect a brain You have to get this one. All right well, nevertheless if What the question I was originally asking Is there a magician school was meant To say by the way, where do these motherfuckers that are magicians learn how to magiciify? How to how to do the magic because there's no school but the point is They're not just taking anybody in off the street and smartening them up to the way they do things Or else wise then nobody would go to see them do the things Because they already know how they do it and then they'd be down to the people who just loved it for the arts sake Which is exactly where the fuck we are today with wrestling But it's like letting you know here come on come on to the university of magic and led david copperfield show you how to Make a woman's uterus disappear In front of a crowd Yes people are going to be trying in front of a bunch of Free spending WWE fans hooting and hollering and voting for their favorite. This is going to be a good idea This is not a good idea And that's they have to make money from everything like this. I mean come on if it would even Again, I'm against the principle of letting people inside the wrestling school to begin with and we all know that but even If you were going to do this it ought to be a gimmick try out where it's not You're trying the same people out in a legitimate private try out where they're not goddamn Distracted and then hey, let's go do the same thing for the marks over here. We'll give you a payoff or whatever but for to Give these people A legitimate try out and then have it done under these conditions and they're Being hooded at by the fucking fans. All right, how much do you think it would I'm not even joking How much do you think it would cost would be like a hundred grand or less? If you wanted to be in the royal rumble Oh, no, they could get more than a hundred grand for that from some Saudi person They could probably get a million dollars. Well, no, they'll buy the event I'm talking about actually participating in the man. No, no, that's what I'm saying from from some Saudi person or some Person who's got bitcoin Or whatever the fuck I think would have to be a crypto person They are the craziest spenders and well and and It's not even real money. So I'd spend that shit like water too because what the fuck but But they could get a million dollars to have the guy in the royal rumble He could last as long as well. Who was a bushwhacker luke? That's right. Yeah, you have the nine second record There's him the I bet you I bet you the guy would set the record for the most chops on the way over the top rope though Possibly I mean Daniel pewter was in that one year. So he may He may have won that award I think there'd be even more heat on this guy, but they're selling everything at this point and again This will be a continuing story, but we have seen What we're told are major Artists with major followings and major streams Canceling tour dates if not tours because they can't sell their high-priced tickets This will come for wwe And it feels like Until it does they're gonna just keep adding more and more ways for them to grab everything they can Until finally they've got five people in the world That are all billionaires and can spend about 500 million bucks a year and that's their fucking income club wwe Over the head Anyway, let's close out the program tonight brader today or whatever period of time that you may be listening you find folks out there in podcast land with the uh the review or our thoughts on the von erics documentary part two that's been on Oh god, what network have they that's this is the a&e right? This is indeed a&e biography the name of the episode was curse of the von erics part two and It's amazing the wwe has had Some type of hand or finger or control over or whatever some type of behind the scenes involvement in both the von erics documentary and the shawnd michael's documentary we just talked about because I The shawnd michael's as I said probably I was the worst one so far that I've seen of Anybody and the von erics may be the best and the hulk hogan one They were involved in that too. Well, well, there you go, but the von erics one is still better than the hulk hogan one But Whereas the the part two and this was a two two hour episode four hours But where is the part that I loved? About the first part or the you know first episode of the documentary Was that they captured territory wrestling and the crowds and the fans that are hooping and hollering and going crazy and They're rock stars and they're playing the fucking zz top and It just captured that time period And they had the footage and etc And that was the the thing that I liked about The first half whereas the second half unfortunately Is the other side of that and While it was still fantastic. It wasn't fun to watch and it focused so little on wrestling because It really should have because the the family Happenings were what led to the downfall in the wrestling and you couldn't You didn't want to go back and look at that sad atmosphere they had in 1988 after 1984 So this was good for To watch and because of the family dynamics, but it was not The cheerful part of the story No, that's why it was such a good idea that and uh, you know, thankfully they were able to do a two-parter because it worked out and they Had some time. They still left things out Obviously different people have different thoughts on different narratives and we'll talk a little bit about the narrative around the parents later on But I think part one kind of ended at a perfect place Because that is kind of where it ended. I mean you could say the Gino and Chris feud but in terms of them as people It was a little bit before that and I thought part two was really good too and again a lot of insight There were a lot of years where there were a lot of reports about kevin von eric Here or there just saying wacky things and behaving in a wacky way and And this is the first time we've heard I know there was another documentary on like One of the other cable channels, but I didn't see that one. But it's the first time I've seen Really the women in his life his children His wife. Well, it wasn't his wife really his carry's wife, but Talking about what was happening for them living in dallas post world-class glory days They left out the fritz heart attack the fake heart attack which Is an important part of the story because I guess I'll just say it here These two documentaries Did more to make me sympathetic to fritz von eric than anything ever And a lot of people had the feedback I've seen have been upset that kevin labeled his mother is weak That they didn't defend her that You know fritz is such a horrible guy and all they did was say good things about him But you know, obviously there were different sides to everyone and family sees people differently than strangers but they did leave out the fritz fake heart attack which In terms of what he was thinking at that time was taking advantage of The tragedies that had happened and I thought that was an important thing that they left out well, and that's You could do a whole documentary just on the downfall of the business at the same time as the family was having the downfall and Fritz at that point was desperate because I think he knew that he had he'd lost he'd lost it. He won't go get this back because And we'll go through this because they start again, you know after Kerry's big victory, but If the difference in 84 and 85 in the stadium versus 86 and 87 and uh, lance peterson On twitter tweeted they ran 88. I forgot about that. They had some triple cage of doom business Yeah, the same thing you guys did at the bash And don't say you guys like I was involved in that thing that you know the back of my company My company did it but nevertheless, I mean all you could see was empty seats all through the stadium It was a giant crash because the people had believed so much. You saw that emotion captured They believed in the von erics And believed that they were living through them. They were their heroes. They were the bigger stars than the individual cowboys and Then the tragedy they all banded together and they came out and they saw Kerry win it but then unfortunately with more Tragedy starting to come every time people Some of the fans saw through it as like, oh, they weren't what we thought they were Other of the fans never saw through it, but it became such a downer for them That they they turned away from it and but it was a From 86 to 88 was almost a free fall And they brought up bringing in ricky von lance von And making him lance von eric Brought up is a good discreet because that was about it Yeah, but they didn't talk about the other side of it Which was fritz going on tv and admitting that they lied that it made up a family member Who was then main eventing For one of the competitor for the opposition. He would kin man tell. That's right. Yeah So, I mean there were things that were in here that were important to the story But some things that were left out in terms of explaining Why they lost a lot of the mystique even as the tragedies were happening Well, let's start where this episode started and michael haze had a good line at the beginning Everybody thought it would last forever Where the free birds and the von erics and it's a big run and it's going to be and Because remember All those guys who we talked about the guys in mid-south in 1984 85 that were all in their 20s and then the free birds were in their 20s except for buddy roberts and All these guys they thought it was gonna because they hadn't They may have been wrestling fans growing up But I was never of the category of people that thought that it would last forever because I had watched the business and the different Territories and come and go and had seen chic and bruiser Fucking die when when you lose it you there's a point of no return, right? I'm not saying I was a goddamn genius at 20 something, but I never thought That it will never be over, right? I was it. You know, yeah, we can fuck this up or like in 87 when the booking was Going all over the place and they bought all the Territories I was like, hey, you know But these guys it's funny when you think about a lot of it was centered around dallas being dead and everyone trying to make Dallas the center bill watz went there and then crocket Yeah, but nevertheless the point is they're they're young their stars everybody's happy And every but the they showed carl malone and the sports anchors on tv that everybody was Texas was crazy about the von erics. They did the pizza end commercial that was played everywhere in the state and then they This was a big deal that they glossed over then they went to israel where mike was injured And so when he came back and nothing about it for whatever reason And I can explain how it happened, but not necessarily why it happened I said on the when we talked about the previous program That the channel 39 in dallas that started the world class program from the sportatorium that was syndicated all around the country right to local stations They were part of the christian Broadcasting network or fed some of their stations or carried their programming whatever That's how fritz got hooked up with it originally And they had some kind of connection Where they put world class wrestling on television In I can't remember now, but apparently I got to have a good time slot And it became the most popular television program in israel and this is not bullshit brian Please tell people i'm not lying to him. Oh, no, like the von erics became a big deal in israel kevin von eric to this day Is kind of a minor sports celebrity in israel. I believe his last match was in israel And yeah, apparently at that time the you know, you never believed these things totally there wasn't No crime when the Beatles played ed solvent, but it did drop apparently The battling between the two sides would cease for a little while when world class aired on tv every Well that that was a tale it was being told but it could be honest bill mercer's an honest man But no, I was there and when when they were talking about it amongst themselves bronco lubits or people in the office or whatever that I don't know their political hierarchy in israel, but the high muckety muck of such and such was going to be meeting with kevin and carrey when they flew over to do the press thing and it was a big fucking deal right and If you notice they said it was august 1985 on the graphic here. I'll I'll accept that because I didn't go because That's it. There were three things that had me in the midnight But bobby and denis give our notice and go to crocket one was our texas stadium payoff two was crocket getting on tbs and three was They'd been saying we're all going to israel And we were all three like well fuck you you can go to fucking israel We went to boston. That was a nice cool little trip, but None of the three of us were excited about going to israel Because they were still they were having some kind of goddamn conflict with somebody In the middle east over there at that time. Oh, yeah, and this was It was exactly it was tuesday, whatever. Yeah, and As they were saying oh, this is going to make the headlines this a big thing and they're bringing us over I'm thinking well. This will be a high profile way for some of these fucking terrorists goddamn get even with the united states or something so We called dusty and said hey dust. We could be finishing up anytime. So we we were done the first week of july they went on Anyway, skander akbar said call me ray Yeah Good old jimmy weba But anyway, that's where mike separated his shoulder and i was watching this when we were actually in atlanta working for crocket when They were airing the Joe pedicino's wrestling block. So i was seeing these tv's He came back to america to have surgery on the separated shoulder It got infected. He got toxic shock which Again at the time had been related In some fashion it was It had been an epidemic for some reason among women because of sanitary products. I don't know. So this was like the oddest thing Who'd ever happened to a pro wrestler? And the doctor said he's one of the sickest patients that i'd had ever seen He had a hundred seven degree fever kidney and organ failure And again the fans were calling the hospital. They were like saying we got a hundred calls an hour. They were offering to donate organs This is still have where The fan base was in dalas at that time like oh my god And the the doctor's son told him if mike bon eric dies the whole world is going to hate you So I get he was in a hospital for a month and he made it miraculously and He was never the same And you could because we had worked with him I didn't like hang around with him for hours, but we had worked with him and been in the locker room with him in January through june And what I was looking at when they brought him out at the cotton bowl or when they Putting back on television just to speak about his recovery there was There was a big big difference the eyes the manner of speech no inflection And It now they claim that that's where they claim since mike was down too. They brought in lance, but that's way too early, isn't it? they brought in lance because Go ahead. It's funny with lance lance came In 85 right around this period of time. He was at the cotton bullet ringside. They introduced him before the hair versus Uh, it was hair versus hair versus hair versus hair match with gino and chris but When david died they started talking about him on tv Before he was cast in that role or anything. That's right. They would say waldo vineric's son of lance They would bring up the fact that it was fritz's brother in kayfabe because that was in dalis here's before That was his son and they were obviously looking for someone and You don't know what prompted the original thought was it just that david's gone Was it that carry's gonna go to hollywood? Whatever it was happening at that time. There was a first mention of him an early 84 and then they brought him from portland And they introduced him as lance vineric even though apparently he was a local boy And his name was rick vong It's one thing to make a fake vineric and bringing tom pritchard or someone is not from the area But when you yeah, but that's that's what they were saying He had people that like knew him from his high school days or whatever coming to the match. He's going hey ricky vong But uh, they they glossed over that whole thing in two minutes with lance But besides kevin saying well, I hated that idea Yeah, that was one of the biggest tea killers and they kind of didn't explain how that hurt them with mike vineric if i could ask you two questions one What do you think when you see the clip of him getting injured? It's him kicking gino And his shoulder pops out on that It's always the oddest injury to me and second When you see how this was presented and everything you witnessed firsthand Do you think that mike vineric was forced into the business? By his dad Or do you think mike vineric wanted to do what his brothers were doing and hang out with his brothers? Mike vineric wanted to do what his brothers were doing and hang out with his brothers He wanted his dad to be proud of him fritz May have loved his sons, but he was He had and well i was about to say he had eyes but goddamn those Glasses were thick as coke bottles, but he could see that mike Was not carry physically or kevin maybe Athletically or david mentally with the psychology of the thing But he was not going to tell mike No, you can't do it at all because in the territory at that time if If they'd all stayed healthy and mike hadn't got hurt Mike could have worked there for the next five fucking years On the cards and you know it would have worked, but he wouldn't have Been in demand to go anywhere else, but you know what i'm saying if all things have been equal fritz put him in the ring And and the people in the business could see and a lot of these smarter fans and just the More cynical fans could see But there were obviously there were people voting to donate his fuck organs for him, right? So some of the fans were like yay, it's mike about eric They didn't see Do you see do you see I see so So that's the thing is that it wasn't that fritz was making him my god, you know, he wanted to He wanted to be a wrestler. What is south texas spot show? It was mike and somebody against bobby and denis And you know how bobby when he was a heel he would crouch down and try to sneak up on the fucking Baby face like tojo used to do right he kind of crouched down and he had the Hands up in the little claws and he'd be trying to he scared mike from mike turner. Oh shit from behind right when he tried to sneak up on him and mike hadn't and then As they went to lock up bobby crouched down some mike crouched down and bobby crashed down a little more He crouched they were just doing a full squat in the middle of the ring mike just didn't know what the fucking was doing but he was trying to Imitate everybody and you know figure out what was going on But you know, yeah, right after this period of time the combo lance von eric's brought in mike van eric Is brought out in a car to wave the people and You didn't really know how bad it was that you knew he was skinny, but he had been in the hospital and everything He didn't realize how fried he was And then right after that and i only bring this up because in terms of Where the crowds went and the faith in the family and the company February 86. Gina Hernandez dies That's all over the news and also he's in the middle of a feud with chris Ah, he just blinded chris adams on tv and then he died Yes fritz leaves the nwa May not seem like a big deal But if you've been recognizing a world title lineage For the past 20 years. Yeah, at least if not more than that technically just fritz himself or his son's challenging for the same thing for 20 years Yet the dalas office always, you know, since the war in 53 and 54 was an nwa town all of a sudden We're not in the nwa our Top guy will now be the world champion. Whether it's rick rude or black bar. There were some interesting picks And then carries motorcycle accident in what june of 86 if you look at like The year after you left world class That's six months after you left is when they hit the wall and just everything fell apart and now they have no carry von eric The deaths are not just limited to the von erics and they're in the news and it's drugs I mean everyone knew yeah, which you know it came out right away. It was cocaine. I mean, I wasn't a hidden thing So just everything happened and that's the difference between the reaction to mike von eric being hospitalized and mike von eric's suicide which was quickly They changed the texas stadium show quickly to be the david and mike von eric memorial parade of champion. It was you know, it was Not handled the best way It well in and it just did You know, it wasn't fun anymore for a lot of people But that's it with carry's accident. He ran into the back of a stationary police car on his motorcycle but Suddenly he's fucked up, but they put mike back in the ring, but it then where mike was Awkward and gawky, but Energetic and you know anxious to please now you have awkward gawky frail and slow And carry's Again comes back too soon and At least they didn't tell the story of he rebroke his ankle this time because he got up and wanted in the hospital out of bed and wanted a cheeseburger and put weight on it That was a story one time but He had several operations that wouldn't heal. We're not going to go through the whole goddamn medical procedure at this point But they amputated the foot And now we know hiding it was definitely fritz's idea Yeah because It's always been Obviously i've said my god He could have made a fortune literally out of that and gotten so much sympathy at the level that he was able to come back at the high level While being an amputee if they could have pushed that but It wasn't even carry thinking that it was fritz making him ashamed of it by making him hide it Yeah, even his wife Said she thought he should do it and this is the first time i've ever heard bruce pritchard or anyone from wwe say that vince wanted him to do it I never heard that before And same thing if it is indeed true fritz put the kibosh on it. It didn't happen yeah, and that's That probably cost him, you know more mental issues which got worse on drugs and they sent him to rehab but It did if fritz again, they said fritz said the press will get a hold of it and they took him out of rehab Did you notice that carrie's wife kathy? Calls him mr. Adkisson Yes, that was noticeable throughout this entire thing Whereas kevin's daughter is like all my pa pa or whatever her, you know pet name for grandpa was and Everybody else, you know, it was like mr. Adkisson And the granddaughter said granddad enabled You know the kids because he loved him so much he bailed him out of jail and there was other times we talked about there was issues that fritz had pull and you know the average Person would be reported for something but he was able to keep it quiet What do you think mike? I will go ahead. Well just again as they were presenting this And shelling footage especially later in his life when he wasn't well of him with his grandkids But with fritz, you know for years you would hear the narrative that people warned him bill wad's various people about his kids and Gary Hart We said it last time maybe he was just no selling it. It sounds like he really was Whether he's guilty of enabling them or not He really was like a grief-stricken hurt father Whenever they got in trouble and he tried to do what he could to help them, but It wasn't like don't work like hogan and nick hogan, you know, don't worry about it. Yeah, everyone else an asshole it was you know embarrassment it was you know not an easy thing and That changes I think the narrative a little bit around fritz well and the whole von eric M. O has always the whole family when kevin was living in hawaii with all they had a family compound Where all the family lived together the kids the grandkids or whatever the extended family is and you see all these family Uh get-togethers on video going back to when the fritz's and dorses kids were kids And they've always enjoyed being around multiple generations, but There's been so much trouble and And that was mike again. That was the next thing he He had obviously had brain damage from the fever for so long and He had the depression and the drinking and the personality changes and got arrested again and felt like he shamed the family and Went out in the woods and it took a bunch of pills And now this is starting to get Doris because I mean jeez you know She's gone through this whole thing with his wrestling fuckers for 30 years now And but then another story where kevin Backed over his kid in the driveway with with his car accidentally and ruptured her liver, but she Was okay But that's where kevin was saying I wrote this down because he said he wanted to fight the devil And he had a seizure and saw apparitions and thought they were demons. I mean I guess A seizure is a definition of a seizure is you know strange things are going to happen in your head, but he That's one thing about kevin and their fed they believe in those type of things Was he fighting the devil and bobby folton had to save his life at the sportatorium? Well, that was a seizure wasn't it? Well, I Again, I wasn't there so they gave him CPR Tommy and bobby both were there Because it was a six-man tag But I you know, I don't know if they ever determined what caused it, but He just he did whatever he did You know, but go ahead. I was just gonna say you know, you bring up kevin talking about his battle with the devil here I'm not a really into religious Shows or you know televangelist or whatever it is, but I have to say He's one of the most compelling speakers on religion. I've ever seen because he's so into it You believe he believes and yes, it's kind of incredible to watch Well and see you know what you said I was going to make a comment on something you said fritz is Dealing with this or whatever responsibility Kevin in another place said well, I had to keep going to provide for the family and and You know, I've got to because he's doing the Bible speak type of thing Where I'm a man it's my job to take care of the the week In the fat the children and the women Like it is like it's a big he's back in the pilgrim day the week the women You know, it's his job. That's a bible kind of thing and So this whole family probably had The men had trouble mentally not being able to take care of the women As they were meant to be taken care of back in the Puritan era I said to my family gosh, we should all move the Bethlehem And then but then they didn't have any room to Bethlehem motor in But anyway, um Kerry ended up having to go to the WWE. He had got back in the ring by that point but fritz's heart was out of everything and They just said on the on the Documentary here. He sold out and I mean it would again be another documentary with the whole Jared Jared usw a max andrew's global syndication blah blah blah that kevin was In and out of being involved in for the next four or five years or whatever but for the sake of this story The business went to shit and it and fritz sold his part and The boys were moving back into fritz's house So Kerry has to go to the fritz's compound because fritz had trailers on the property or whatever it was And and I was gonna say but you wouldn't live on a trailer out in the middle of the desert in texas on fritz von eric's property But they were his kids and it was probably but still they were aspiring to more So Kerry goes to work for vets, but chris chris von eric The youngest one was He had asthma he had taken Medication since he was like 12 years old and stunted his growth. He was like five foot five. I think And he was depressed because he was left out his bones were brittle Because of the medication but still now I think at this point Fritz was out of the picture by the time they actually debuted chris. Was he not? He was yes I think at this point That's what had percy prengle. I wish Blessing me was still here. We could ask him because he was down there at this time But I think at that point they were just saying fucking, you know He wants to be a wrestler and we need to von eric and anything to get any kind of interest that type of thing, right? It's not saying that and kevin still had some decision-making Abilities and what's he gonna tell his brother? No, and I think they They worked him in with a manager angle or a man angle against the manager with percy, right? And did some shit with with mike. They did it with ak barn with him. They did it with percy uh So it wasn't like that they knew he was never gonna be a superstar, but he was again Let's let the kid maybe it'll mean something here. They didn't know that he was gonna Break his arm pretty much susie fucking gotten a ring And then of course about that time mike Or obviously not mike but uh kevin's daughter said That after mike and Kerry or mike and I'll get it right in a second Mike and it's and david et cetera that they were always afraid the kids were I'll try this again That if the grown-ups got too depressed they would commit suicide Can you imagine that? From from a kid standpoint So point being blah blah blah uh Doris then divorces fritz because now she blamed him and that's where kevin was saying my mom was weak god bless her And she weren't weak. I think she just fed the fuck up But you know again kevin is broken up about it, but he still it takes up for fritz so Now kevin's pretty much retired david's gone mike's gone Kerry's in the wws but he is Again, we've talked about it before in the past on the show here where they had such plans for him that they could have done if he Didn't have his problems whether the The missing the family the drugs that he was already on the pain keeping up with doing this with one foot And So that's they said wwe sent him to betty ford And then apparently fired him when that didn't work And that's when he got arrested again with cocaine at a probation violation and wasn't it a prescription thing? He had a fake prescriptions You know what well, they said cocaine here, but well, he had cocaine on him when they arrested him for the fake prescriptions But it was something like that. Yeah what uh obviously But this again jesus age christ everybody had said in Stories before that well, kerry knew he was probably going back to prison to probate patient violation. He didn't want to do that But did you hear the story ever? That his wife had said he called her to have lunch and wanted to get back together And she didn't want to and that's what he told her. Well, you're gonna be better off without me Oh, don't say that and that's what he killed himself Jesus christ I have heard in the past that he was really upset that His wife wouldn't get back to him. That was kind of but I didn't know she he like left the lunch and like okay Never heard that before ever, but I've never heard her interviewed before But anyway, um And then they They kind of brought everybody up to date on The kids of the kids lacy became a wrestler for a while and thankfully moved on from that Uh, the daughter holly has a nice lake house Apparently that's you know, that was a nice joint there nice demeanor. She just seemed like a really pleasant person Yeah, and of course fritz had it just gotten cancer Aggressively and just within months died They showed the newspaper I was in dallas the day he died or you know the next day in the newspaper because I was switching planes to go to amaryllis For the terry funk 50 years in amaryllis show Yeah, and i'm in the dallas airport and they're on the front page of the papers the death of fritz van eric I got the papers still and That's when kevin decided, you know, hey, let's go to hawaii and the whole family went out there and If they didn't even mention ross and marshal becoming his son's becoming wrestlers I can't believe they said, you know, they gave lacy a mention Yeah, well shit. Yeah the wwe because this is wwe and they're signed aew right or they were I don't know. Well, they're They're not in the family so they don't the wwe family that is they don't get to get mentioned But uh, you know, they're After 20 years of them all out there and holy shit You know because kevin just wants to be outside and barefoot in nature. So i'm sure that was fantastic but they they were isolated out there and That's really ross and marshal didn't get a lot of reps in during their Their prime athletic years because they were 2 000 miles away from any booking but Now they've moved back to bernie texas as where brody used to live And they're out on this ranch again with all the fish in the game and the wilds and the Trucks and the the roller skating room Roller skating room and the pawpaw patch and everything And apparently they have a I guess they bought it and have taken it over but that Roller skating room there's a room there that the public can rent and have functions In of some whatever function you have in a room like that As part of their big spread they got there But that's It was a sad obviously the second part to the story but Equally is well done and I thought this was the There's things left out and you'd had to go six hours as we've talked about but This was the most honest mainstream major Well done polished up look at the whole thing that I think we've seen all in all I completely agree And I think I've seen maybe five different documentaries about them if I really think about it legends a world class triumph and tragedy I think it was a world class the wwe dvd dark side of the ring It was that other one and then this so there's been several I thought they did a good job and Yeah, it's a sad part two And it's a ton of sadness that they deal with But I think almost it was a positive ending just because You're seeing the next generation And now they have kids And they seem rather well adjusted and they're not running from anything they understand it They all seem to be very happy together Which is a family thing for the varnuvericks So I thought it ended on a real positive note and You know, I'm glad also that Clearly they felt disappointed and upset with the iron claw Oh, yeah, I'm glad they had this opportunity to kind of straighten out a few things about that too because You know, you and I were kind of disappointed with that movie as well and we weren't in the family and could only imagine what they think Yeah Yeah, and and they got the opportunity here to say hey, it was a It was a fine movie, but it wasn't anything like the real story which we illustrated it wasn't so You know, and that's and like you said with kevin. I'm glad he's happy and contented and still You know I mean He walks around a little, you know, vent over every once in a while because of the wrestling days But at least at his age, he's still ambulatory and out there jumping into lakes and shit So and Michael Jackson's climbing trees, you know, yeah But like you said, you know He believes what he believes but he's good at believing it and he's a An upstanding person. I guess it could could have turned out a lot worse because you've seen other wrestlers get into religion and they talk about it and Not to say they don't believe it what they're saying, but they give a very polished Wrestling promo babyface wrestling promo but about religion You could trade water filtration system or aluminum siding for the subject of a religion and the delivery would be somewhat similar but not with kevin he just He's like one of those old-fashioned western fucking preachers in the western movies He closes his eyes and he clenches his fist and you believe him. You're like, oh my god He's feeling that fight with the devil right now I just wanted to fight him All right, I guess the listeners if we don't get to fuck out of here are gonna want to fight us aren't they? I don't know. I think they would prefer we do like an eight-hour show but I think we need to stop because uh, I have to get back to editing and we have a WWE pay-per-view and then we have to come back and record all about the pay-per-view and fun Fun fun so many fun things but folks. Thank you very much for your support to your indulgence your patience and uh, all the other things that you have Perfytrated over the last few hours for this program. We will be back soon And until then thank you. Fuck you and bye bye everybody Of Jim Cognac Of Jim Cognac Of Jim Cognac