NFL Draft Recap: AFC Winners & Losers - Fantasy Football Podcast for 4/28

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Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers podcast with your host Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright. Oh, welcome in. What was that sound? That's me doing rookie drafts guys. You're not having a good time? Oh, barf. So I mean, this is a big show because we have not got to really come together and react here on the 2026 NFL draft. So this is our first chance to get the opinions. They're bad. Shared. What about about the cardinals? Oh, they're bad. Okay. No, they're they're they're much worse. There were things. They're much worse with the cardinals. The cardinals are. I mean, it's like a child is running the organization on some level. And it's such an insult to Jeremiah Love and the talent that he is to say that because quick thoughts on the cardinals. We can all share them. Fact number one, Jeremiah Love is an incredible football player. Absolutely. And will not bust. Correct. He will be a valuable, important, fantasy relevant player for the Arizona Cardinals for many years and $50 million. And for whoever his next team is as well, they would he could go on to great success. Like maybe he'll win a Super Bowl with his next team. Jeremiah Love is great. And so the argument of, look, you take the best player and I will say this. If you draft an ad rusher who busts, it is less valuable than drafting Jeremiah Love. Who is good. Yes. Who you have a more guaranteed outcome with. But it is, it is indefensible to use the number three overall pick on a running back, no matter how good they are. It is up and people are like, you know, it's all about the contract. That's kind of the argument, but that's not really what it is. The 50 million guaranteed, which is the most guaranteed money that's ever been given to a running back in the history of the NFL, just simply because you're slotted in at the number three pick overall. 11 million more than any other running back in the game today. And people say, well, look, if it's a good player and you're going to be on a rookie quarterback contract, you can afford them. You've got the cap space. That isn't the point. The point is what you're giving up. Yes. Look, will opportunity cost. Will Anderson is getting $50 million a year now. He just signed a contract a year. We just said $50 million in guaranteed money was the most of all time for a running back. It's because they don't matter as much. They just don't. You can't get an edge rusher. You can't get one on the free agent market. They don't hit the free agent market. Once upon a time, the Cardinals passed on Adrian Peterson in the first round for an offensive tackle that didn't pan out and we lived and watched what Adrian Peterson did for the rest of his career. So on that level, yeah, you don't want to whiff on an Isaiah Simmons or Andre Wadsworth or whoever else the Cardinals took. Everything you said is correct. Love will be very good. It's compounded by the fact they spent offseason money resigning James Conner, Tyler, Algear. They have Trey Benson. They have running backs on this roster already. And so everybody, I mean, I have been asked about my opinion on this pick more times than I can count and everybody wants to hear our opinion on it. Jeremiah Love doesn't deserve any hate. He's going to go and be great in Arizona and he'll be the number one pick in Dynasty Rookie Drafts and we'll talk about him on our Winners and Losers today. I think we're doing AFC, but yeah, I mean, the good news is the genuine good news is I think that drafting Jeremiah Love and then a couple rounds later with with Carson Beck is a is a very good recipe for marching for arch like get the number one. What you're calling it? Yeah, the March for Arch is on for Archie Manning. Let's put Manning with a Harrison. It's got to work. It worked for their daddies or their, their, you know, their relatives, I guess you should say, but yeah, yeah, I think it's, it's a great way to get the number one. So the original vomit sound effect that Mike produced at the top of the show was more about just expectations for where a lot of running backs were going to go. Didn't come to fruition. We didn't really get a lot of, a lot of names with the draft capital that correlates to fantasy success. Got none. We got, we got none. But we got Jadarian Price. Sure. But I'm saying day two. Yeah. We got none. Day two, there was one running back. It was like Kailen Black. Yeah. It was, and he wasn't invited to the combine. But drafted by a team that is whiffing on almost all their picks. If the 49ers draft you, I mean, I could just say if they draft you, your chance of not being a good player is very high, but specifically, did he Lynch? Sucks. Day two sucks. No, he does suck in, there's been great articles. He sucks. San Francisco fan. What do you do? Yeah, we got one over there. What do you, what do you think? Yeah, it's not good. Okay. Thank you. Could you imagine how good your team could be? Yeah. With Shanahan coaching if they were given quality players, but like, how many years in a row are we now of the 49ers taking a running back in essentially the third round and then it never being the guy? I feel like we'll get hate. Like we're attacking the 49ers as Cardinals fans. No, I'm attacking one specific football fans. Yes. One specific GM and your team is always great. Would you rather be Kailin Black who was not invited to the combine drafted by a team where these, these home run picks never work out? Or would you rather be, I think it's Adam Randall who was not drafted by the general manager, not drafted by the coach, but given a token opportunity to the owner of the Ravens that said he's been begging me for a pick. So I just let him pick somebody. It was unbelievable. The GM, if you haven't heard this story, the owner asked for a pick and the GM's like, well, it's your team. Of course. Yeah. Of course you can have a pick. Oh, and in the way he talked about, he's like, and he did his research. It was like he's died. Like, like I gave the pick to his son. And what's so sad about this is like Mike and I, I know both like Adam Randall, he's one of the more sleeper deeper picks that were deeper, deeper, deeper, yeah, sleeper deeper. He picks that were like, I can see how that works to Steve listen to our show. I mean, he probably does honestly, probably, but I would say that there's no other explanation for this. The, when the pick came and the Ravens took Adam Randall, I was like, that's not a bad landing spot for him. You've got King Henry who's indestructible, but he's also human and at some point will stop and will self destruct. And Adam Randall is that's a good spot. You're in a good team. And then you find out later, it was like a, a gift pick. It'll reflect silly. It'll reflect on the GM on his future resume. I know that. Yeah. Yeah. It was a wild draft. We're going to get into our AFC draft recap show today, talking through the picks and what we think, you know, there are opportunities out there. There are a number of players that slipped in the draft or went to teams that look like, you know, Makaelim and being one of them that went to a spot we didn't expect a team that traded up to acquire them, has plans for them. He went to a spot that the team drafting him didn't expect. Yeah. And that the Steelers didn't expect, but lots to talk about our draft. I didn't even know what was the final total for our draft prediction. You won by one. I think I got one right because I changed on Jadarian price last second. You did. And you got him. And I got stowers. Yeah. Is that what? Because you had gotten Jordan Tyson. So yeah, it's always tough in the streets because once a couple trades happen, the ramifications, the domino effect, but I mean, goodness, you've won for so many years in a row. I just assumed you'd pull it out. We've decided to extend the UDK pre-order giveaway in additional days. We have. Yes. Through the end of the day, Mike. Oh. And we're going to give away some extra swag. So not just the Jamar chase sign Jersey, not just the Bijon sign Jersey, not just the listener league spot, dude, but some extra swag as well. You know what I realized through the end of today, Tuesday, just now looking at it. Cause the, if you haven't tuned into YouTube.com slash the fancy footballers and check out magic Mike's wall, the sign jerseys that we're giving away, those guys are on my league of record team. Oh my gosh. Still, they made it. Yeah. Mike, Mike, we had our, the magic Mike wall. We had our keeper lottery this weekend as well, which we do in our league of record. If you're new to the show, we, we have kind of a cool format where you get a franchise player and then you pick three players from your roster. There's a keeper league and those three players go into a keeper lottery and two of the three remain on your team. One drops into the draft in our keeper lottery. We saw the likes of Jamir Gibbs drop back into the draft. We saw Jason, we saw Puka. And we saw CMC and then Jason. I saw, who was in your lottery? My lottery was Josh Jacobs, Travis H. and junior and Jonathan Taylor. Yeah. And I no longer have Jonathan Taylor. It was, I was not happy about it. Jason popped into the lot, the zoom. Oh, that looks so cool. Jason popped in on, there's a cool new graphic up on the wall. I like it. So, he was in the zoom. He found out he had lost Jonathan Taylor in the lottery and then he disappeared through a smoke bomb. Yeah. And he was gone. Well, because of course I show up right after everyone tells me I lost Jonathan Taylor. He's like, I didn't even get to see it. It was like, Oh, you just lost Jonathan Taylor on time. I was driving through mountains. I didn't have service. It didn't wait. Um, there you go. So Jason was super happy. Yeah. But yes, ultimate draft kit.com through the end of the day today and we'll give away that listener league spot. Somebody to come and play with us in the listener league in 2026. Super excited about that. And um, yeah, there you go on that note today. All of our ultimate draft kit, the next, the plus all the dynasty information all got updated post draft. So our rookie rankings, our dynasty startup rankings, all that stuff is fresh. It is ready to be drafted. Lot of details and more than just that, the opportunity pages, everything in it got the post draft refresh. So if you already have the older draft kit and you're in the contest, great. Go check out all the new information. If you need a reason to pick it up now, all that new information is there. All right. Let's get into the news. News and notes from around the league. Just a few bits of news here. Jaden Reed, three year contract extension with the Packers, the who said goodbye to Don Tavion Wicks and Romeo Dobbs this off season. And they did not draft any major replacement. This was a big win for Jaden Reed and Matthew Golden. The fact that they didn't draft anybody. They do seem to have plans. I mean, for him, and at least we had one game. So the Jaden Reed three year 50 million. Yeah. So 20 guaranteed the Romeo Dobbs contract was much bigger. Okay. Yeah. I hadn't thought about it till now. That's been a good player, but not a high volume player, not a high route participation player. Right. His talent has always been there. I've always really liked what I saw from him on the field. He's always flashed, but the issue is he is only a slot wide receiver when they're in too wide. And even now, even though they lost from your dubs, it seems like it'll be golden and Watson in in too wide, which probably Jaden Reed is valuable to the team. Unlike, you know, you look at what's happening for the Colts and you look at downs and you go, oh, you know, I think he's going to be on the field and too wide. Now a huge upgrade. This is like, Oh, it's good for Jaden Reed for the draft, but he didn't get to me an upgrade over what he has been. The Vikings officially exercise Jordan Addison's fifth year option. Okay. Is Addison, he's interesting. I feel like he's not been talked about a lot. Whereas, you know, we talk about the uptick that Jefferson should receive by a competent quarterback in Kyla Murray, who I think will be a competent quarterback. Addison will benefit tremendously. I mean, Kyler has, you know, it kind of reminds me of the Christian Kirk era for the Cardinals in Arizona, where you had Hopkins on one side and Addison who's capable of taking advantage of defensive backs and especially on deep plays. That combination kind of reminds me of that. That's a good comp. I believe it was Kyler who was with Christian Kirk when he was a wide receiver one in fantasy. I'll have to look that up. Kyle, get on it. Christian Kirk? Christian Kirk was a wide receiver one in Jacksonville. Really? Yeah. Oh, okay. It was not Kyler. No, it was not. The NFL networks, the Inter-App Report reporting that Brandon Iuk will be playing with his good friend, Jayden Daniels for the commanders soon. Okay. I mean, the Iuk saga is, it's still going for those who have forgotten because it had been kind of quiet there for a while. No one's going to trade for him. I would imagine he's not let go yet because the 49ers hate him. I think they're legitimately mad about a punitive situation. Yes. Everything that has taken place with Brandon Iuk, you won, dude. You got your money and then you were not good. And then there's the reports of not taking rehab seriously on his injured knee. No one, they've trashed him publicly. No one's going to come trade for him because they, why? We'll wait for you to release him. But I feel like the four nags are like, we're not going to release him. Well, you want to hold on to him. I mean, the thing is, is usually you would say you want to get the most value out of the assets you have. And the 49ers proved they don't care about that at all. The value means nothing to them. MVS still playing football. Marcos Valdes scantling signing on your deal with the Cowboys. Good for you, man. And then the other news, George Pickens has not yet signed the franchise. Yeah, there was a lot of reporting on. Did they say he did? Yeah. Night one of the draft, they were saying George Pickens has signed his franchise tender, which felt very much in the moment of like, well, the only reason he's going to sign that right now after they have said, we're not going to give you a long-term deal is because to trade him, you can't trade him unless he signs the franchise. So with all the reporting, that's what it seemed to be the implication. But now they're saying he didn't even sign it. Yeah. Then it came out that the Cowboys aren't going to trade him. Well, at first it was, at first I believe it was Ocho Sinko that had this cryptic tweet. He's going to be happy. Yes. Yeah. Like there was some big news, some big contract coming his way and then it was, oh, he's going to sign his franchise. That's not what a player is happy about. Like, yeah, it's not my franchise. And so you assume he's going to get traded and then the Cowboys come out and say, we're not trading him. And now it's got full circle to, I'm not signing that franchise. Jerry. Which you guys have talked about on the footcast, like how we probably won't sign it. And then it seemed like the news came out that you were wrong, but maybe you know George better than he knows himself. Yeah. Okay. And we know Jerry. And you know Jerry. He will fold. I like their draft, man. I love their draft. I hate, you know what? I hate the most about this draft. And there are, oh my gosh, so many things. Two of the best drafting and acquisition teams this cycle, this weekend, were the defensive side of the ball for the Bengals and the Cowboys. What nonsense is this for fantasy football? That's true. Just hold on and hope that it won't work. Yeah. I liked, like, you know, we'll go through the teams. I liked the Cowboys a lot. Their draft. I liked Cleveland again for two years in a row. Yes, I did like Cleveland. Yeah, they're doing, they're really doing good work over there. I think they're going to be a good team. It's funny. I had tweeted out. I actually think they're going to be a good team. I would, yes. I would not know that part. They were in every game last year with nothing on offense. They have an incredible defense. Their defense is unbelievable. Incredible defense. And I might believe in Todd Monk in more than I did a week or two ago. I just, interesting. Look, this is going to be one of the big topics that we're going to talk about extensively. How do you react to all of these draft picks and the players and the teams? I always bring up Jaylen Waddle to the hapless dolphins and how bad of a landing spot that was at number six years ago, only for him to go out and catch 100 passes and be a great player. The turnover in the NFL is so, I mean, what do we have? 20 new coaches, head coaches, something like that. I mean, when we did our coaching changes show between offensive coordinators, head coaches, the change is so tremendous. The inner working of 11 on 11. You just, you see change really, really fast. Teams that seem completely hapless. I'm not saying I like to show Watson or what you're going to get from Shadour, but like Or, yeah, or Taylor. Yeah. Taylor and Green. I mean, there is, there's just potential to win with just some small competency on offense. We love Concepcion. I liked Inzel Boston on the other side. They have Harold Fanden who we love. We love Judkins. We have a defensive player of the year. I don't know. I don't know. I get it. They're still the Browns. They do have the pieces there. I loved the draft. I had tweeted out that it was really bad what the Browns did to us for Concepcion and Boston, which I stand by. Yeah. We don't want them going to the Browns without a known quarterback. That's not where we would ideally put them. And then you put both of them there. Yeah. And they're sharing targets. They're both hurt. Yeah. And the football perspective from the Browns perspective, those are great picks. That's, I mean, they're giving help to whoever that quarterback is. Just to correct what I said earlier, there's 21 new offensive coordinators, 10 new head coaches. So Cleveland at a six and a half win projected total. It's a brutal division. So I, but yeah, I would, I would take the over on that. I would. You get a little new head coach bump and a little bit of locker room. Seven games. Yeah. Seven. Seven out of 17. We can get there. We can get to five of those by himself. I don't know why I got on a Browns tirade on this episode. What am I thinking? I do this every off season. What was that old head coach I used to talk about? Oh, uh, uh, Marv. No, no, no, no. No, no, no. Marv was Cincinnati. Um, Hugh Jackson. Yes. Yes. I should learn. All right. We're taking a break and we'll talk AFC NFL draft recap. 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Yeah. It's a new man on our head. Oh, this is not great audio. Okay. Let's do it. Hey, rookie. Welcome to the NFL. All right. We'll start in the AFC West with the team with the overall number one pick, Fernando Mendoza to the Las Vegas Raiders in round one. They did spend a fourth round pick after a slew of offensive line and defensive improvements in the second and third and fourth round. They spent a fourth round pick on Mike Washington, Jr. Combine standout. Superstar. Yeah. And, and then a wide receiver in the six. So I think a couple of things that stood out to us, or at least to me was like, who's going to play wide receiver for this football team? Because they did not invest. I mean, the best. The best. I was back, baby. Jack. We are alive as well. He's not dead. We are thriving. I don't know about that, but Mendoza, I like Mendoza. I think he's going to be a very, trying to find the right word for it, like a very productive NFL quarterback. I don't know if that'll be fantasy productive for his whole career, but he is more mobile than people give him credit for. I think I'm excited to see him with Gentian and Bowers, but, you know, adding a big name wide receiver would have been, I think more exciting for the entire fantasy world. If you had seen third round pick, you know, Denzel Boston going there. Yeah. It's hard to imagine a team with such a need at wide receiver. Well, 36 wide receivers went in this draft that they just didn't even look that direction. I think that this is really Bowers is, I mean, obviously they're number one wide receiver, but he's a huge winner here. He will be soaking up all of the targets. I will probably be taking him over Trey McBride. I think Bowers is the tight end one. Oh, I feel like that's a, that's a pretty big bold take. I, I think we really enjoyed what we got from to Kobe Berset and Trey McBride last year. So I, I don't know if I'll go that far, but yeah, Bowers should have full confidence to be in that tight end one contention. And I still expect them to start the season with Kirk Cousins. Oh, I think he's going to play. That's a good one. I think he's going to play about half the season. So in terms of, yeah, Jack Besh or any of the other wide receivers still on the team, Trey Tucker, who was kind of their number one last year, Dante Thornton, Jalen Naylor, the free agent signing of Jalen Naylor. I mean, hard for God. It's, they give him a bunch of money. They did. They don't have a three year 35 million through wide receiver. And less one of last year's rookies steps up, which they did not do last year with plenty of opportunity. There is not a lot. I mean, it's not good for Mike Washington to go to this situation either. Like if you were looking at players, like, yes, you'll have an opportunity to be the, the backup, but he could have gone to a team that he could have emerged as the starter. Like if he goes to Tampa Bay or something, you know, you're like, Oh, maybe it doesn't work with Bucky and this is the dude now. I, that's not happening here. It's obviously not happening where Mike Washington, Jr. will ever be the dude without an injury to Gentie. That's, that's clear and obvious. He is only a backup. However, this was the team coming from, you know, the Coob's system. Now the head coach here coming from Seattle, where even though they had a clearly superior Kenneth Walker on the field, they kept putting Charbonne out there. Then Coob's comes to the Raiders and they ask him what they think about Gentie. And he basically says, I want a two-back system. We were arguing, you can want whatever you want. You don't have another running back on the roster. So it's going to be all Gentie. Well now they went and spent, you know, obviously it wasn't a day to pick. It was a fourth rounder, but you know, Mike Washington was one of the somewhat touted running backs in this class and at least gives, I think it's interesting. It gives a little bit more credence to the ability to have a large split for Gentie. It's funny because you know, it's, well just you make the natural progression of, okay, well Mike Washington's in the Charbes role for, for, for Kubiak, except Mike Washington athletically is, is, is the opposite of Charbes. Yeah. I, I, I, I guess it just comes down to, does that draft pick change your opinion of Ashton Gentie? For me, the answer is no. As in where he's going in fantasy or my confidence in him. I think my confidence is about the same. I do think Mike Washington is, I don't think it's, it's everything is Ashton Gentie though. I think you will have more of a committee that people are going to want. For sure without that pick, Gentie would have had a lot more volume when I stat him out than with this pick. Okay. Yeah. Well, we'll be doing that soon. I mean, the full ultimate draft kit releases on June 1st, which means you're going to have every team's individual players and stats from all three of us in the ultimate draft kit and see how we break down each of those teams offenses. Kansas City. I'm at. Kansas City went defense heavy early on. They traded up. They went corner, two corners, two defensive linemen in the first four rounds. And then their first offensive jump, which we thought maybe they were going to grab, you know, a Jordan Tyson for Patrick Mahomes. It didn't happen. They had two first round picks. They were both on the defensive side. Emmett Johnson goes in the fifth round to Kansas City. Very similarly to my opinion of Mike Washington with Gentie, Emmett in the fifth, who I liked, has no impact on my view of Kenneth Walker whatsoever. This is actually a huge, you know, the fact that they didn't go get more offensive weapons tells me they're focusing on the ones they have. And so, you know, all the incumbents benefited from the way that they chose to go about this draft. Rashi Rice, Xavier Worthy, Travis Kelsey, because they didn't go after Sadiq or Stowers and Kenneth Walker, you know, Emmett is a maybe you see the field. I like the Mike Washington comp in the sense that this is a team that really needed a backup running back. They just did. They lost Pacheco. Sure, they went out and gave the bag to Walker, but they don't have anyone behind them. You have to have someone behind them. It's a good quality pick. Andy, I know you liked Emmett Johnson, his film. I think it's a, it's just a good fit. Walker's gone down. I mean, both in the past. For sure. I don't think that the chiefs are ideally wanting to do a split. That's where I view it a little different than the Raiders. Yep. But it's, it's a good pick. And honestly, the big takeaway for fantasy for me on the chiefs is simply that the big fear I had pre NFL draft of Rashi Rice being moved on from this offseason, if they had taken one of those big three wide receivers for dynasty purposes, Rice is a little bit more solidified as in the future wide receiver for this team. They don't have someone past him. Kansas City thoughts, Mike. Anything you want to add? I have nothing new to add. How about you talk to me about the Los Angeles Chargers? If you can, I dare you. They had some picks. They spent them on players that we probably aren't going to end up caring about in fantasy football. Fourth rounder, Brennan Thompson is the lone meaningful offensive piece in terms of fantasy production. He is and Brennan is, this is a Mike McDaniel special of Thompson is fast. Now, Kyle, you're telling me this is a real quote here from Mike McDaniel. This is a real quote for sure. Apparently Mike McDaniel talking to the GM said quote, if you, I mean, you didn't see this video. I did not. Oh, it's great. And McDaniel known for really, really good sound bites, but said quote, if you can find a way to get Brennan Thompson, I will take my shirt off in here. So he goes opposite of you. You're a, you're a no pants. He's nips out for her. I'm a nips out club. Okay. No, it was a good video to put it. He was constantly asking for their GM to make this pick, find a way to get Brennan on their team. And it makes sense. This is a guy who ran four, two, six. I don't view this as Brennan being a fantasy relevant player. I do view this as McDaniel wanting someone with such blazing speed that he can craft things where you, you just have to, you're going to pull a safety away. You're good. This is, this is a player that I think opens things up for the other wide receivers. Does it make you nervous for Trey Harris? Because if you're talking three wide receivers, Trey Harris feels like the odd man out for, I don't think we're getting huge or lad off of the field. Yeah. And you're talking about a field stretcher. That's the role. And I think that that would be Trey Harris's role. That will be Brennan Thompson's role. So yeah, that, that, that has an effect there. I think it's good for Herbert. Yeah. I mean, it was the only real swing they took on the offensive side in terms of skill position players. They did draft the fourth round offensive tackle. They drafted a center in the second round. So we know the offensive line was a huge problem last year. They're already getting injured players back. Now they're solidifying it through the draft. So that's good for Hampton. Right. If you talk about a fantasy winner, Hampton, Herbert offense. Yep. Let's go. We got Jake slaughter. Oh yeah, they did. Huh. Jake slaughter. That's such a good name. It is. Slaughter them. Denver was 14 and three last year. We thought they might come into this draft, which by the way, they had very few picks. No first or second round or their first round pick is Jalen Waddell. Yes. Yes. They did acquire Jalen Waddell. Just remember that. But they did draft one of, I think Jason's favorite rookie running backs. Now it came in the fourth round, which you might not love, but they didn't have a chance to draft them in the other rounds. The, and they have a need at what running back this is. It's John A'Cole. Right here explains the state of rookie drafts at the running back position. Jonah Coleman is my running back three fourth round running back. Jonah Coleman fourth round running back is my number three who will be barring injury at best in a three way time share between last year's higher drafted rookie Harvey and J.K. Dobbins. This is when it happened. This was early in the fourth round. So this is day three. You don't want them to go day three, but you're hoping someone, you know, pulls the trigger quick. They came in and that's who they targeted. That's what happened for an offense that you think is good. And I like the player. So I was like, okay, this is okay. This is okay, but it's not good. It's not great. And I don't blame you for having them as your RB three, but please understand foot clan. Whoever our RB three is this fantasy football cycle in rookie drafts, the gap is the grand canyon. Someone has to be at three. That does not mean they're good. And that does not mean draft them like you would usually draft most years. Third running back off the board. It is. I mean, my fourth running back is a fifth round Nick singleton in Tennessee, right? Because of opportunity. And you know what Jonah Pullman does. You talk about winners and losers, which is what this show is about. This is all the backfield mates are losers because I don't think Sean Payton has an ounce of loyalty to every one of them and any one of them. I don't think Harvey is going to be anything that we're happy about on a consistent basis. He's entering the I can't wait to be Justice Hill in this league phase of his career and Jonah Coleman can come in and he's a tough runner and let's add him to Julio McLaughlin and just whoever else they can get production out of that position. This will be three backs being used every drive. Minimum. Disgusting. Yeah, I could feel that. They spent two more picks on tight ends, Mike. Oh, Jolie. Jolie. Jolie. Jolie. I was mad that we couldn't call him Jolly because his name is pronounced Jolie. Not anymore. And now I'm very happy. We're begging of you. Please don't take our man. You went to Angelina Jolie. Is that what you did now? That's where my head went. Okay. The amount of tight ends in this draft freaking Sean McVeigh and the Rams with their, I mean, number, they were a culprit of the dupe, the league getting all the tight ends, but they, they changed their offense. They said, Hey, wait, guys are getting smaller. Okay. Well, let's beef up and put a bunch of tight ends out there. How many tight tight ends were drafted? I think it was 23. Yeah. It just feels like it's like tight end. Like they're offensive line. They're offensive linemen being drafted and getting paid well. I mean, every off season, we get these massive deals now for tight ends. You're like, who? Because they don't catch the ball. Yeah. So we got to move on though. The AFC South, Tennessee, I just talked about them. They went and surprised a lot of people. Carnell Tate at number four overall. Jeremiah Love was off the board. They did not go defense despite their head coach and they went and got a number one wide receiver for a player I still believe in tremendously, Camord. This makes me feel way better about it because it's a certifiable number one. It's terrible news for Calvin Ridley, but if you cared about Ridley, that's terrible news for you. For you. So this is a great landing spot. I tweeted that out and I had so many people that were like, what are you talking about? They like it. They hate the spot. And I'm like, look, Cam Ward is a young number one overall draft pick. Sure. He hasn't really shown that he's a great quarterback yet, but you can't ask for much more. I mean, not everybody's going to get Joe Burrow got better as the season went on, which is what I care. So you go to a young, you know, future franchise quarterback on a depth chart with like, I mean, people were throwing out, you know, all the names of the wide receivers that are at the Titans, but I don't manner was talked about last year, not because I don't matter. Man. Yeah. Nice. It's not because I don't matter was great. We talked him up because he might have been their best wide receiver because they don't have much Ridley is old busted. I mean, this they need, there's a reason they took someone fourth in the draft. The number one wide receiver off the board. He I think can has the opportunity to come in and be the number one in targets right off the bat. Now, maybe he won't be this year, but he has that opportunity. I think he will be this year. And I think it'll happen. I mean, number four overall, he's going to come in the same way Malik neighbors did and dominate targets from the jump. It puts players like Chimrey DK into the right position on their team where he was a great player for them. Great special teams player, gadget player. Can't be your number one. I don't matter. Can't be your number one. I mean, they did sign Wanda Robinson, which is good. I mean, the nice thing is for you, Andy, Wanda could lead in. They believe, you know, for those that believe in cam ward. Yeah. Now you start going like Calvin Ridley old busted has a place. If he's not trying to be the number one for this team, take Wanda Ridley and DK, that's good. You could end up having a good wide receiver core here basically because one guy can move people around. It's a good pit. Did you like Nick Singleton's tape? I did. So I know state running back goes in the fifth round, which you normally don't care about, but this year you do. And Tennessee has, I mean, they have Tony Pollard dot dot dot. Yeah. You had the debate between Singleton and Caitriona Allen, the two guys that were on the same team. I was very much more on the Nicholas Singleton side. He was not this explosive breakaway runner. However, he is a 220 plus pound running back who caught the ball like crazy and scored touchdowns. That's pretty much all you need and want in fantasy. The opportunity is good here. He's a fifth round running back to just keep your eye on. Yeah. What round was the old wasn't Barnes at Tennessee Titan? The guy you like years ago. He was on drafted. Oh, okay. That's different. Yes. The Colts. He would have been drafted this year. If Barnes in this draft, he would have. Yeah. So winners and losers for Andy andapolis. They didn't do anything. Josh Downs is a huge winner. Not only did they get rid of Adnei Mitchell and Pittman, those two guys are gone, but then the GM basically comes out and says Downs should be involved in two wide receiver sets and has the opportunity to get more work. This is great. And then they prove that with their actions. I mean, they took a seventh round wide receiver who's just like a special teams guy. Downs is a great fantasy asset going into this year. You're up on downs. I'm up on downs. Yeah. And the target volume, like we love Dalek Pierce, but he doesn't profile as a hunter catch guy. I mean, Josh Downs, Tyler Warren, wheels up. I'm very excited for downs this year. And I'm glad you brought up Tyler Warren because he very well might lead this team in targets. Yeah. That would not be a bad bet. Houston. Houston's been a third rounder or sorry, a second rounder on Marlin Klein, not Merlin. I thought maybe it was Merlin. Merlin would have been more exciting. Okay. Winners and losers for the Texans. Mike, I know you wanted to talk about the Texans all day. You've been talking to me about that. So Marlin Klein out of Michigan. You ever eaten Marlin? I've not. Jason. No. You ever had swordfish? I have the same thing. I don't know if no, no. I consider those the exact same thing. I thought Marlin is, they both have the weapon in the front. That's enough for me. Marlin is the same clownfish. Jason. Yes. Right. Yeah. Marlin's a clownfish. That is correct. I've watched the movie, man. I know. Have you ever had swordfish out? I don't think Andy. Oh, he doesn't. I'm allowed to move on. You didn't get the job. That was a finding Nemo. Marlin, the dad clownfish. Yeah. Okay. It was great. Thank you. I don't have to like it. No, you don't have to like it. You didn't like it because you didn't get it. Yeah. Cause you're dumb. Get body. Watch a Pixar movie. I like a, like a good reference, but not like a deep cut. That wasn't even deep. That was a dead deep. The dad of the main character. When I think of Marlin, there's only one. The dad is the main character. When you think of Marlin, you don't think of the fish? I do think of the fish. That's what I'm saying. Hold on. Hold on. I mean, I think of the fish, the clownfish from finding Nemo. Marlin. Nemo, they have to find him. I know. He's lost. He's not the main character. The movie should be called Marlin finds Nemo. Yes. But they didn't want to give away the ending. Nemo is not telling you how he's doing the whole movie in the tank. Yes. Name another Marlin. The ones in the ocean. No, no, no. When you think of Marlin, the name, who, who comes to mind baseball? Yeah, baseball. Yeah. Yeah. Or the old NES game. What was that game? Oh gosh. Oh no. No, I'm on it. A Marlin Waynes. All right. Good work, Josh. Marlin. Was it blue Marlin? This is all much more entertaining than the Houston. Anyway, so Marlin Klein out of Michigan, you know, an okay athletic profile. I mean, I'm trying to give you something here. He's a blocker. Speaking of, he's a, he's a very good run blocker. This is good for David Montgomery. Jacksonville. Jacksonville spent a second round pick on Nate Borkercher. Tight end blocking tight end. Good job. That's how Jeremy says caricature. I would say the biggest winner in Jacksonville was the existing running back room because there was a roomers and Chris Rodriguez who look, I don't think that I think they're willing to have either guy step up there and probably both. So I think both of those guys were big winners. Obviously you didn't have, they didn't need more wide receivers. They spent six rounders on them, but they've got a, you know, a ton of those guys. I think the big winner for the Jacksonville Jaguars draft is the San Francisco 49ers because they might be the only other team that had more reaches in this draft than the Niners. If you just look at like the value chart, it was wild. Incredibly bad draft. We'll find out. We're just going to be talking forever. Yeah. That's what we do. I know that they're sitting up like at a press conference or kind of sitting up like maybe on a step, but man, does that come with a lot of the fart sniffing self assurance that every year these guys like, oh, I know better than all of you. Like history says you don't. History says we're all just whiffing over and over and over again. And this idea, when you listen to Lynch talk about this consensus and why do you go and reach for players and then you go look at the evidence. Yeah. And they're Warren Warren, sharp wrote an incredible piece breaking down. Yes. The horrific San Francisco. Like it's in, you don't get to defend facts. So if you make a bunch of picks, let's say you make 20 picks and 20 picks don't work. That's now that's called history. Yeah. And when you compare the value of what players have done versus where they went in the draft, it's kind of like how in fantasy football, when you look at ADP, especially over recent time, ADP is pretty accurate. The guys in the first round score a lot more on average than the guys of the second round. And it's not like, Oh, well, the fifth round bumps up. It's, it's almost linear. It's like the ADP is usually correct. Every round you get some wrong, every round you get some right. But if you reach multiple rounds in your fantasy draft, you're making a mistake. You're not taking the advantage of capital and you're probably wrong. You're not outsmarting the crowd. But the funny thing is like, they just stand there and smell their farts and they love them and they're like, I'm so good. We don't listen to consensus. I love JJ Zacharisi. Good friend of the show tweeted out. He was on a little Twitter rampage on this as well. But it was at one point they said, well, people don't bring up the great finds we have later in the draft, you know, like getting George Kittle and then yes, we do. We're fine. We're that's a great job. But yeah. And on that JJ tweeted out George Kittle when they drafted him was 20 spots behind where he was going. Like that was the you got a guy behind value, which you never do. You're always taking these guys way ahead of value. Like, no, that was a good example of what we're talking about. That's how you do it. Why pay $20 or something when you could pay 40, right? Right. It makes it better. Cleveland, the Browns. I love their draft. You know, a lot of people thought Carnell Tate would end up in Cleveland. They thought they'd go, you know, they ended up trading down when Tate was not on the board. So maybe they would have, but they end up at nine. They draft a wonderful offensive tackle and Spencer Fano. And they end up with a back to back combo of Concepcion, who a lot of people like. I love them. And Denzel Boston, totally different types of receivers, which is awesome. Equipping a receiving room that really needed it. I don't know. And then they just solidified both sides of the ball. Two offensive tackles in the first two days, two wide receivers in the first two days. This is a great improvement for an office. They knew where their problem was. And they did because in the sixth round they went and got a quarterback, which is what they really need. Dude week 18, Taylor and green. Yeah, it's going to rule. Yeah. He's rushing for 150 yards. So fun. Jerry, Judy, a fantasy loser in this equation. Yeah. Yeah, I would say so. And you could, you could argue that, I mean, I guess it would not argue that Fanden is a loser in the situation, but there's just more mouths to feed now. Yeah. More opportunities. Let's take a break and we'll get into some more, some more of these teams, unless you wanted to add anything on the Browns, Jay. I really like Concepcion. I think that I'm going to bet on talent over situation and hope it works out. Have you, for your, for your wide receiver rankings, did the Cleveland Browns destination? It did not. Concepcion. No, Concepcion's still my number four. Okay. All right. We'll take a break and we'll talk bangles. In a world of noise and uncertainty, IG is the investment platform that backs you. Take a reflexable stocks, Issa, which gives you the freedom to withdraw funds anytime and replace them in the same tax year, all without losing your £20,000 tax-free allowance. And if that's not enough, pay no commission on your stock shares and ETFs when you invest with IG. IG. Trade. Invest. Progress. Your capital's at risk. Other fees may apply. Tax treatment depends on individual circumstances and is subject to change. 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We'll discuss because I think Ty Simpson is a fascinating, great conversation. You didn't like him when, yeah, for Thursday. You didn't like him when the Cardinals were going to get him. Yeah, and at the end of the I can't wait to explain. Cincinnati 6-11, they had traded their first round pick away for Dexter Lawrence. They did not get a running back in the draft. They didn't have a lot of picks, but you look at Chase Brown, two years in a row, Chase Brown survives the draft. Oh, that's money's coming. Chase Brown. Yeah, I mean a commitment. Get the pen ready. So yeah, defensive in cornerback center, fourth round wide receiver for some depth. Dexter Lawrence. Yeah, Dexter Lawrence with pick 10, you know. So I mean, this was a team that went out, had a great draft, drafted mostly on the defensive side of the ball, which is where their issues are for fantasy purposes. You hope they whiffed. You know, you hope they got it all wrong. And then Dexter Lawrence isn't. Sorry, Bangles fans. Yeah, I mean, for fantasy purposes, we need you to score 35 points to win a game because Super Bowl purposes, you did the right thing. Absolutely. I mean, the truth is when you are, when you've scored 21 points and you're up in the fourth, you run the ball and that sucks for Jamar Chase and that sucks for T Higgins. I think we're greedy. I think we're, I mean, I think we're really greedy with those two teams. And I do like consequential football. Let me put it out that way. I want this team to care about the games they play late in the season. They're not going to care when their defense was that bad. I'm going to go glass half full. They did a good job. Baltimore. They had a lot of picks. They end up spending so many that they gave one to their owner for free. Oh, they did. Yes. Adam Randall with the bonus second pick in the fifth round. Jacobi Lane Elijah Sarat. Jason, you like Sarat a lot out of Indiana. Jacobi Lane goes quite a bit ahead of him in the third round. Yeah. It's, it's interesting because we've always talked about the pie, the passing pie of the Ravens and the Lamar Jackson era and whether or not you can support multiple targets. You obviously have Zay flowers here as the one and they're bringing in two, I think pretty good wide receivers solid at least wide receivers in Jacobi Lane from USC and Elijah Sarat from the national champion team. I like Elijah Sarat as a player. I really, I did not think that the gap between him and Omar Cooper Jr. was, you know, a three round gap, which the NFL thought good pieces to add. However, those, those being wide receivers, they did not really do anything from a passing tight end, a receiving tight end. I think Mark Andrews is a winner in this. His role as the receiving tight end is pretty safe. Yeah. I don't know if I'd go as far as to call Zay flowers a loser because of these acquisitions, but I would say that, you know, they haven't had a lot of talent at wide receiver at all beyond Rashad Bateman as the loser and those who still believe continues to support Rashad Bateman. Adam Randall has potential to, you know, if you had an injury step into a role. Yeah. I'm on Jason's opinion of Adam Randall. I think he will be, if he gets an opportunity here for the Ravens, I think he'll be solid. I think Al Borland would like me to enter into consideration Elijah Sarat. Oh, that's already been entered. Yeah. We've already discussed this a little spicy. You guys already talked about that. I haven't heard that. I, I have. So Mike talked about it with himself or on the dynasty podcast. Make sure you're listening every Wednesday. Pittsburgh guys. What do we think? Jeremy Bernard in the second round, they apparently were going to take Mackay Lemon, which let me, let me talk about the, the comedy of like, who was the player that you thought they might reach on? I thought that they were going to reach on Omar Cooper, Jr. Okay. That was the one that you thought that they would stick with Pittman and with DK Maccalfe and be dumb. Yep. And then I'm like, they're not going to be dumb. And then it comes out that they were going to be kind of maybe, maybe not dumb at 21, right? But Mackay Lemon was the pick that they were going to make. I think somebody referred to the Steelers ending up auto drafting after the trade up by Pittsburgh or Philly. If you don't know what happened, the Dallas Cowboys were the pick ahead of the Steelers and everyone knew that the Dallas Cowboys are focusing on defense. So because they knew that the Cowboys were looking at defense, Pittsburgh called Mackay Lemon and told him that we are going to draft you with the next pick. While he was on the phone with the Steelers, the Eagles traded up and swapped with the Cowboys. Oh man. And, and called him and he, they couldn't get a hold of him because he was on the phone with the Steelers. And then they're like, Mackay is like, why, why are the Eagles calling me? And it, boom, you switched teams in the blink of an eye. And then that's where the Steelers were on the clock. Yeah. With little time. And they're like, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, who, who's out there? ADP, offensive lineman. So Jeremy Bernard, second round wide receiver out of Alabama, who I think he's a pretty good player. He also spent a third round pick on yet another of the same type of quarterback. Yeah. But Drew Aller, when you look at it from a dynasty perspective, players that could have opportunities sooner, he is on the upper half of that list. I don't know if you guys would have him higher or lower than Carson back in Arizona. I toyed with those guys back and forth. I actually put Drew Aller one spot ahead. This felt like when they were making this draft that they were doing this draft for Aaron Rodgers. They're like trying to get him a Kilemon. No. Okay. Well, let's get him an offensive tackle. Then we'll get him a wide receiver three. Hey, come back. We, we improved our offensive line. Honestly, Jeremy Bernard, I believe is a perfect pick here for what they need. Like a third wide receiver. He's just going to be a quality third wide receiver, not a fantasy superstar here. And obviously being behind Pittman and DK Metcalf. I don't think he matters that much for fantasy in and of himself. However, for whoever the quarterback is, it's great. And then they did get the superstar at the end of the draft. Hide and write. Man, do they even have Roman Wilson on this roster anymore? He's somewhere. Oh man, Roman Wilson. RAP. AFC East, the New York. Who's the second round pick? Holy crap. Yeah, I know. He broke their streak of drafting perfectly at wide receiver. Oh, does he even count? He played so little. Goodness. The Jets fulfilled Jason's prophecy. Jason was not very high on Kenya on Sadiq compared to others. Stowers of powers. And he said, well, what he'd love to see is Sadiq go to the Jets to where I don't have to care. He's a really good player. He goes to, I think when you brought it up, we were like, Oh, cats and dogs. Cause Meowstin Taylor is there and Kenyans, Dic. I think the career is now over for Mason for Mason's upside and Omar Cooper Jr. Who look a first round pick, two first round picks on receiving options in New York for Geno Smith. Well, it's going to be great for next year's quarterback. Yeah, I mean, this is like, if you look at consensus big boards and consensus mock drafts, both Kenyans Sadiq and Omar Cooper Jr. extremely highly valued, highly touted prospects you needed to get receiving options. So you can make an argument very clearly that this was excellent work. I think they got value on both perfect for the future. They definitely got value on Sadiq. I mean, Omar Cooper was starting to be drafted pretty heavily in the first round. So dropping to the last, you could say they got value on both personally. And we just talked about being away from consensus is usually not the smartest plan to be right. But personally, I thought both Sadiq and Cooper Jr. were two of the most overrated people going into this draft. So the fact that they both went to the Jets was a dream come true for me. And then you can hit the club, Nick, in the fourth round, they added Kade club, Nick quarterback, quarterback losers. I would just say Miao Sin Taylor's potential as a tight end one is going to be squashed by a first round tight in. Will he break a tackle? Will he finish his career with zero broken tackles? Yes, probably not enough opportunities. That's what I'm saying. This was your year to do it. Although maybe now, maybe Frank Reich is an offensive quarter in a fell again. Maybe it gets sneaky though. Like I don't they don't think they'll throw to Miao Sin. So he's on some cornerback. That doesn't mean it's like a little good for some fall down tight first downs big time. Just not breaking tackle. The Miami Dolphins had 652 picks in this draft and they chose to wait on the wide receiver position. I think that was the biggest shock here. I'd love to tell you that there are some existing wide receivers on the roster that are quote winners because of this decision, but there aren't any. Well, they don't have any. Caleb Douglas to two at well. Yeah. Yeah. And Taj Washington or Jalen Tolbert. Malik Washington rather. Yes. This was actually a really important place. Caleb Douglas and Chris Bell, two wide receivers that went on day two in the third round. This good draft capital. You got to take a look at those two wide receivers. See who you believe in. Chris Bell was in theory going to be a first round wide receiver. Very highly touted. Big bodied guy. You had Dane Brugler before the season head. Chris Bell ranked as his number two wide out. Yeah. I mean, he was supposed to be great, but then he tore his ACL fell in the draft because of that. So when I look at Chris Bell, I'm a little excited. I've got him higher in my dynasty rankings than I think most people have him simply because if you're talking about a first round talent who simply dropped because of injury, finding his way on a team that desperately needs an alpha wide receiver, there is a path to emerge here, but it could also be Caleb Douglas, their other wide receiver taken out of Texas. Jalen Tolbert's on the roster. They're going to have to figure it out on offense. They spent a fifth round pick on Kevin Coleman Jr. as well. I mean, getting more weapons for Malik Willis is a win for him because they had, they started with zero. So Buffalo, another bell, Skyler bell in the fourth round, defensive in cornerback, offensive tackle before they went fourth round wide receiver. Everything else was pretty much defensive and a punter, by the way, in the seventh round. Are you, what were your takes on Skyler bell out of Connecticut? And do you think Keon Collins a winner? Maybe it just a Skyler bell, huge production, you know, over a hundred catches, almost 1300 yards and 13 touchdowns. But it, the bills just keep doing this of overlapping their archetype of wide receiver and Khalil skier. Yeah. And then, and not that more can't DJ more can do other stuff, but it's still, you know, like these are, these are yards after catch type of slot wide receivers. It's, it's very strange to me. So you're asking Keon Coleman, he could be because you had the, the new head coach was talking him up yet again. He would be their boundary wide receiver and Skyler bell would not profile there at all. But I don't, I don't know what to make of this. It's a fourth round wide receiver. So it's not, he has the draft capitals not there to like, you got to get Skyler bell on your roster. He has some good metrics behind the scenes. There's questions about how they came about. A lot of screen work, level of competition, those things in the fourth round being that you project, he will be playing behind Khalil skier. Yeah. In that role, there's not much to get excited about other than the fact that you get to play with Josh Allen. And so should you emerge, there's the chance to do something special. The final team we'll talk about today. We'll get into the NFC winners and losers on Thursday. The New England Patriots, not a lot to talk about here here. Blocking tight end, right in the third round or half and half. Two ACL tears for Rarodon. Yeah. Eli Rarodon. He, at least when you're talking production profile markers, he did okay in terms of receiving in yards his last year. His athletic profile is strong. So that he's not a, he's not in the, the nothing blocking tight ends to me. I'm not like outrageously excited to draft him. But you know, if you're in of a four round rookie drafts, he might be someone I'll take at the end. As of right now, Romeo Dobbs is, is not a, I mean, he's a winner from the draft. They didn't invest in other weapons. We think the A.J. Brown story is on the way. The Mackay lemon draft pick almost certainly says that A.J. Brown will be traded. Yeah. I mean, it's being reported as a done deal. No, it's being reported as pretty much a done deal. I was just thinking like we launched the ultimate draft kit on June 1st. Oh yeah. And they can't do this trade for cap reasons until at least June 1st or after June 1st. I'm like, how are we starting out these two teams? Are we going to put, like, I think I'm just going to put A.J. Brown on the Patriots on both of them. I don't, I can't imagine a world where he's an eagle. I can't even if he's not a patriot. It seems like he is an eagle. Man, they got three great wide receivers on that team. And finally, a tight end. Finally. Yeah. Sorry. Sorry. Man. I feel like that was an insult to Erts. Yeah. Sure. You go all the way back. No, I was, it was really a gutter. Okay. Well, who had a great year? Yeah. He's not under contract. Right. Jalen hurts. Yeah. I thought they, I thought they held onto him. I feel like Jalen Hertz is a pretty big one year, seven million dollar extension. Yeah. Pretty big winner in this draft, adding Mackay lemon. And obviously when you lose A.J. Brown, it's going to be tough. But personally, like Mackay lemon is I think awesome and Stowers is awesome. Those two are such a better value than what the Jets got in Sadiq and Omar. They gave up two first rounders to get those two guys. If they both cost a dollar, I would rather the guys that the Eagles got. Yeah. Got her one year, seven million dollar deal to just be a transition year to Stowers. Yeah. And don't forget about, you got James. Jam Miller. Jam Miller running back, seventh run pick. You don't need to worry about it, but, but you got Jane. Yeah. Come on. Thursday NFL, or rather NFC recap coming your way. That's where the spicier stuff is, man. Apparently, apparently, apparently, apparently, yeah. The, yeah, the NFC West was crazy. We'll talk about that on Thursday. A final reminder. We do have the, today's the last day for the UDK pre-order giveaway. So if you pick it up at ultimate draft kit.com, you can win a spot in the listener league with us. We'd love to have you there. We have signed jerseys, Bijon, Jamar, Chase, Mike's keepers in, in our league of record. Oh man. And, which Jason's super thrilled about. Awful. We didn't give away any John and Taylor stuff because we knew, you know, I gave away John and Taylor on your own. So things went well for me. It really did. I ended up winning the lottery for the number one pick and then getting all the keepers that I wanted. Yeah. And then Jamir gives them back into the draft. So I'm going to, he's going to be on my team. Anyways, that's fun. That's fun for you. I'll see you in the championship. Do you want to be a co-manager on my team? I would love to. This here. Yeah. All right. That is going to be it for today's show. Shout out to the doosers over there in doosers alley. Appreciate you guys. And we'll be back with another fresh episode Thursday morning. Take care everybody. Goodbye. Thank you for listening to another episode of the fantasy footballers podcast. Join our fantasy football community on jointhefoot.com and follow us on Twitter at the FF ballers.