Ep. 443: Render - True Confessions in the Turkey Woods

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My name is Clay Newcombe and this is a production of the Beargrease podcast called the Beargrease Render where we render down dive deeper and look behind the scenes of the actual Beargrease podcast brought to you by Tacobas Boots. I'm a cowboy boot man and I've been wearing Tacobas for years. They're the most comfortable boot I've ever put on good boots for good times. Welcome to the Beargrease Render presented by Tacobas Western wearing boots. I'm in the Tacobas hot seat right now but on this render we're actually in Mississippi on a camp on the Mississippi River with my good friends Lake Pickle Backwood University and Jordan Blissett and these guys I've decided are probably some of the best turkey hunters that I have ever turkey hunted with and on this render we're talking all about turkey hunting we're talking about some misses we're talking about some successful hunts and it's just a good a good podcast. I also want to tell you about Blood Trails Season 2 by my friend Jordan Sillers. It's a true crime podcast about hunting and fishing. He does an incredible job. I mean every I've listened to every episode and I've been riveted by every episode and I think you will too and it premieres April 16th. I hope you enjoy this podcast. I'll be sitting here in the Tacobas hot seat. We're at a camp on the Mississippi River in the state of Mississippi. We are for those of you not watching the YouTube channel we are actually sitting at a poker table. What? I mean am I correct? This is a poker table. What would Judy Newcomb think about this? Exactly. I don't know. I hope she doesn't watch but we we do have we've got Lake and Lacey Pickle with us. Lacey this is your second time on the Bear Grocery Render. It is. Yes. Yep. I'm we're expecting great things from you on today's episode. Funny stories, energy, intel and Lake Pickle's life. The truth. The truth. Yeah. The truth about Lake Pickle. And so it's great to have you Lacey. Thanks for having me. Yes. Lake's good to have you man. Thanks. And Jordan Blissett. Yep. Proud to be here. So you guys so you've you've been on have you been on a render? Yeah. Several of them. I think so. Yeah. I think you have too. Thank you. We're really low on clientele and recruited you in. Yep. Yep. And then we've got Josh Lambridge spillmaker over there. Yes sir. I'm here. Always here. Yes. Steady, stable, reliable. Well okay. What I would like to do is if everybody could just pull out the stack of poker chips. Yep. And every time that Josh's trip to Patagonia comes up. I want everybody to put a chip on the table. No. We didn't do that in Patagonia. And there's one. I was not saying. I guess it happened once. Okay. And then every time that the turkey hunt from today that involves Lake that we'll hear about later comes up. We'll put another chip on the table. Jordan is there anything that you would I mean what topics do you think you're going to come up on this episode? This this episode is about turkey hunting. That's what it's about. We're in the peak. I mean you could argue that April the eighth that they were recording this is as good a day as there is the turkey hunt. You're in the throes of you could say that it is supposed to be peak road of Mississippi and Turkey's the turkey rut. Peak. When would you say because the turkey season opens early in Florida, Alabama, and Mississippi? I mean Florida opens March 1st. South Zone. South Zone. South Zone of Florida opens March 1st. Below I-70 opens the first Saturday in March. Okay first. So it's not necessarily March 1st. Right. And then and then the North Zone of Florida everything north of 70 opens March 15th unless they know it's later now. It's later too. Yeah. Mississippi is a second state that opens in the United States now. Because Alabama opens March 25th or something like that. Yeah. So there's three states that open in March. Yeah. I we were walking we were walking through the woods yesterday and I asked Lake. I said I said is it the opener of your season here? And he's looked at me like you should know this. No. Our season's been open. Like I'm an expert on Mississippi. We've been rolling for three weeks or three and a half weeks. So when is that when if you had three days to hunt? Question for Lake and Jordan. Here. When would you hunt? Here? I'm here being Mississippi. Oh, I mean it would here it'd probably be around somewhere in that first week of April on a typical season. Okay. If I was only allowed three days, do they have to be consecutive or three separate days? That's a good question. Let's go three separate. Sure. Opening day. Yeah. Okay. April 1st. Okay. And then the last day of season. Really? Okay. Why? Walk me through why. Quantify that. I've had great hunt. It's all three of those days. Oh, he's gone. Throughout the years. Historical data. Yeah. He is right. Like if you if you could break them up, I would lean towards the April like I said, but something about the opening day like before they've been messed with. Yeah, you might just get one that just yeah you can't end on these turkeys are unpressured. Right. And they and a lot of times too, the opening weekend, you may not like have a turkey like come in and do it right to the gumball, but you hear a lot of turkey vocalizations. Yeah. They're usually still grouped up. So you get to hear the hens cackling and multiple goblers gobbling and and Jake's yelping the whole shebang. Yeah. You know, it's it's a cool experience when you get in a group of turkeys that open and we. Mm hmm. Mm hmm. Fact. Have they so seven, eight years ago, maybe longer, there was this big push in wild turkey biology about these early season openers being harmful to nesting hens. And so I mean, it was it was very strongly put out there and all the states moved their seasons back. They did in Arkansas to the point that I mean, nobody gets excited about even hunting the state anymore because it's like it's like so late. It's just like late April, isn't it? Yeah. 20 something. Well, we're all 20th. It's actually April 20th and and they're still gobbling then, but but used to when I was growing up, it would have been like the first Saturday in April or or something like that. I mean, I many times remember hunting in early April. Have they decided that that was good biology or maybe I've heard I heard a couple of different stories. So thankfully, Mississippi has not changed anything from what we've been doing for 20 years. Yep. They actually opened ours earlier now than they did back in the 90s. Yeah. There was a big uproar because we had a swing in turkey populations there for four or five, six years. It's still not what it was 25 years ago. Everybody knows that, but the last four to five years we've had outstanding hatches and right now we have as many turkeys as I've seen in my lifetime. Yeah. Turkey numbers are strong right now. I don't don't quote me on this, but I'm pretty sure in Jordan you may know they some folks are almost looking at it like an experiment because you have Mississippi that stayed with the old season framework and then you have Alabama right next door and a bunch of other states. Tennessee pushed theirs back. Um and so and I think it's I mean we're I don't know like maybe four or five years into it. So I know some folks are looking into it that way. It's kind of like a case study. Let's just see how it works out. Right. Because I haven't heard it hasn't it hasn't been long enough for them to go. Yeah, this is actually helping or this is kind of a non-factor. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. What do you think Lacey? You're gonna lean on Lake's opinion. Yes. Biology. Okay. I have a supportive wife, Clay. Yes. Yeah. 100%. Okay. Yeah. Great. You can uh you can we'll we'll see what you feel about what happened today that Lake will talk about later. Okay. There's no turkeys and Patagonia by the way. They're okay. So that that brings up a great question. Yeah, that was Josh. Josh Spillmaker two days ago was in three days ago was in Santiago, Chile. I was Chile. Chile. As he says. Yeah. And uh so Josh just came back from a big fishing trip. Yeah. Moving on. Uh that was quick. Back to Turkey. That was quick. No, you were there. You were there for 10 days. It's called a huge brown trout. You can just swap your your trip for yeah. Yeah. Oh, I'm kidding. I gave you tell us. I gave you deserve you deserve this. Josh, you deserve this. Oh, just you deserve two minutes. It was a great great trip. Patagonia is actually a a really amazing place if you are a fly fisherman. I can't say if you're a hunter, it's probably not somewhere that you want to be. They they they don't have any big game, which is uh interesting. Describe that to the best of your knowledge. So a lot of the at least the region, you know, Chile is like most of it is 100 miles wide, but it's over 4,000 miles long. That's incredible. And uh the region that we're in, a big part of it looks like Montana and they're you know ranches that are 200,000 acres and in the only the only I mean they run cattle, they run sheep, but there's no no big ungulates. There's no yeah. He's showing me pictures. Looks like Montana. Yeah. Yeah. There's no there's no cervids bigger than yeah. They have a native cervid that's that's real. I can't remember the name of it. It's a but it's only he told me 40 40 centimeters tall, which is like like 16 inches. So they've got they've got pumas, mountain lines. They do have some pumas. Yeah, they do have some pumas, but other than that they have a they have a bird that looks like an ostrich called a aria. Hmm. Which is wild because we're driving through and he's like there's some ria and they're just these two big giant birds just out in this flightless grassland ostrich like birds. Yep. No color are they? They're brown dark brown. Oh, kind of like a emi. Yeah, look look look similar to now what I thought South America I've seen video of a mountain line what looked like a mountain line attacking these llama like animals. They do have they don't have as many llamas in Chile as they have alpacas. Well, these appeared to be wild animals. I I didn't see any any wild and they didn't they didn't mention it. All their all their native game is protected. You can't you can't hunt it, but but a lot of the critters that they do have were introduced like in fact the the trout the brown trout were introduced in the late 60s. Can you imagine showing up on a continent especially if you had knowledge of Africa? Yeah. Just a plethora of wild game that's on the African continent. Yep. And then you came to North America and and saw you know I mean we have a we have a vast array of big game not as not as varied as Africa but pretty impressive. Yeah, we got a lot. And then you go to this other continent and they got a bunch of monkeys, big snakes. Yep. One one well they have jaguars maybe not in Chile but yeah in the north maybe in the northern part in South America they would have jaguars. And I'm talking about I'm talking about an area that would be considered small in Chile. You know Chile goes all the way up nearly to the equator and almost all the way to Antarctica. So I mean there's a there's a wild range of geography in there so you know up in the northern part they might have more more of what you would find in in in northern South America but where I was at it I mean there was there were no poisonous snakes there were no poisonous bugs there were no um no poison ivy no poison ivy I mean yeah no poison plants have these beetles I didn't show you a picture of the beetles they have these beetles oh you did that bore into these beech trees that are about the body is about about two inches long but they have these huge jaws on the front that are about another inch and a half long and they're pretty wild looking. How would you like to have that snap your face? Yeah no kidding. So you you caught one big brown trout caught a trophy brown trout 28 29 inches long and 15 to 20 pounds on a fly rod it was that's awesome it was a kind of a catch of a lifetime so you can check that out on my instagram they were beautiful too. So we were talking about the turkey regulations in Mississippi somehow when we got on that it was a perfect segue into Patagonia. So at the end at the end of this keep your stacks separate from Patagonia and then Lakes story which we're going to count that as one. I mean that's a twice. Whoever wins wins between Josh and Lake for uh you're falling behind Lake. So I haven't gone yet. So okay Mississippi okay these early season dates we just don't have enough years to know if they're really helping. I think they probably do help turkey numbers because people don't kill as many turkeys because you're not hunting at the peak. I know in in Arkansas I just feel like if the two week turkey season was the April 1st or April 15th you'd kill more turkeys than April 20th the May 5th. I feel like you would. I don't know that. This is my hypothesis based on nothing but anecdotal evidence not based off science or anything this is anecdotal. I think that if they ever I don't know if they ever shipped it back or not but I think that they're going to figure out the season framework as a non-factor. I like the sound of that Lake. That's just my thought. I feel the same way. I do. You know it's not because I want to hunt early every year but I just don't see a difference. Yeah. You know there's there's this fine there's this fine line we've seen it with Black Bears in Arkansas and turkeys with Arkansas is when I mean we've got to have conservation in mind when we set our season dates. I mean you absolutely do. Oh yeah of course. I mean you have to. But in the case of moving the season dates later and in the case of I can't go too much into the Arkansas Black Bear season but but for over a decade we've had these like really late Black Bear openers and the data just doesn't point to that that's really that significant in the management of the bears and it's but it puts a major major factor on to the hunting culture and the people involved in the sport the people that actually care about hunting bears. Yeah in turkeys too. I mean like the late season opener has like stolen the soul of Arkansas turkey season and granted if we didn't have any turkeys that would really steal the soul of Arkansas turkey hunting. So I'm not saying you you lean towards culture over science. There's a balance there though right. I mean like the science is is heavily important but if you don't have a hunting community there to appreciate that resource then how far is it going to get you. You know what I mean. So then that is and I'm not trying to paint the picture that Alabama's turkey young culture is gone because it's very much alive and well but it did like and I just it ruffled some feathers. I do I do think that people have made though that yeah pun intended. I do think that the folks that made that decision did so in a conservation mindset. I fully believe that but I do think they could put the Alabama season over back to the way that it was and it would be fine. I also think it was an impulse decision. Need your grace. There's no everybody knows it. I mean I mean major voices in turkey biology were saying stating this is a fact. Dude I well I didn't say it but I heard that and I was like pushing back like I was scared. I mean it freaked me out because it got it got pretty. I mean I don't know how doom and gloom it actually got but from my perspective at the time I was like we got to do something and so yeah when I first heard it and that's I'm putting my own stuff on the chopper block when I first heard it I was like it's probably a good thing. Yeah sure. Now with a little bit of retrospect I see it differently. Well time will tell and it's it's it's encouraging that we've had some good hatches and I think we've had good hatches all across the south. I know in Arkansas we've had better hatches than we've had in 15 years. I just had a friend of mine that lives in Arkansas send me pictures from a place that they have in the Ozarks of three goblers. He said this is the first time in several years we've had this many turkeys on this place and they're fired up. That's awesome. What's he doing sending you those pictures? That's a mistake buddy. If you're out there don't send this guy pictures of your turkeys because he knows what to do with them. This is the uh the other one with me two weeks ago. Now our friend Lake on the other hand. Hey oh there it is. That was like a foreshadowing chip. It was a leading question. Everyone play their foreshadowing chip. Okay before we get to Lake's Lake story. Hey there's another one. There we go. Jordan I Lake said something about you yesterday that was uh very complimentary. Uh oh. He did. He did and it was it was I thought it was a good description. Is it okay if I say what you said? Yeah he's heard me say it. Yeah he said he said Jordan Blissett is not only I don't know if you use this term but this is what I heard. An exceptional hunter. He's also exceptionally lucky. Yeah and a lot of people like when you have both. Yeah what I said is you normally have. He's told me that before. What I know what I appreciate. I say what you normally have is you have the hunting buddy that gets lucky all the time and you have the hunting buddy that's really good. Somehow Jordan finds a way to be both. And you told me a story and I want to hear Jordan tell the story. Okay. He'll know. I mean you can tag team it but the story how can you tell it? We all were on some on some land here in Mississippi. The one uh couple seasons ago when the turkeys got spooked and flew into the tree. Tell us that whole story. So uh I had a draw hunt and Lake went with me and I had been hunting the private land next to it so we kind of knew where some turkeys were on the public area and uh we go in there and they pitch black dog. I may get in there early because we want to be the first one to the gate right. You don't want to be late when it comes to the public land hunting. We waited through a sea of briars too. And uh I actually got access to come in kind of from the back door of this place through some private and if you can do that you got to do diligence and ask permission and trade hamburgers and hot dogs and everything else to get it. But uh we got in there like 4.45 in the morning and doesn't get gobbled in time until 6. And uh Lake and I were sitting there just waiting on that turkey gobble and he finally gobbles one time we start be lining towards him and uh we what a couple hundred yards we hoot again he gobbles again we get a better bead on where he's at and uh where he's at it's on the other side of like this big savannah type cut like big open pines like you can see five six hundred yards through there when it's daylight. So you want to get across there in the dark because if you don't there ain't getting across there without turkey seeding. So we get across there and pitch black dog gets set down and turkey gobbles a few more times start yelping at him. If I remember correctly uh he in flies down first and then he soon followed and gobbled on the ground and a few minutes goes by and all of a sudden the woods erupt cackling turkeys flying and turkeys fly to our left and one flies right over top of me and lake and land something spooked them though something spooked it wasn't it wasn't it. No they're they're flushed they got flushed by an animal or something who knows what we don't know it could have been a bobcat it could have been somebody coming in there hunting I don't know. It was a it was a putt and fly fast. It was turkeys flying over. It looked like a cuppy flush of quail but they were all going different directions. Y'all think the hunt's over. Oh yeah this like pretty much done and um we just sit there because for one turkeys we don't know where they're all at and two like I explained we stand up we're exposed to everything so if we stand up whatever turkeys are still around us are going to be spooked even again so where's the lick just to sit there if you manage to just see how it plays out and maybe 10 minutes goes by and I yelp and hen starts yelping and I yelp back at her and we get into a conversation and I remember right like she yelping too we're just all carrying on you know back and forth she seems to be calm down she's actually coming towards us and keep in mind we had a turkey that flew in a tree behind us and so we're being as still as possible I just assumed it was a hen foreshadowing we both did yeah yeah and anyway that hen's coming at us she's probably 70 yards out there in front of us and this turkey over to our right is in a tree 40 ish yards 30 40 yards over there I'm scared to move my head so I had never looked at it I just know it's up there well I started hearing it shuffling around and I see it pitch out of my peripheral vision then I turn my head when it's flying I'm like it's the gobbler I see a white head coming out of the tree like just helicoptering helicoptering down pretty much just going straight down to the ground it hits the ground if I remember right it either gobbled right when it hit the ground or went in the strut one of the two it started strutting yeah it started strutting then it gobbled and it's like 40 yards from us strutting and gobbling while we're yelping back and forth this hen out in front of us I'm like like it's the gobbler it's the gobbler and it's me and him both right handed so it's our weak side and I'm have this blow down tree out in front of me my legs are kind of up under it so I start using that as kind of a pushing pull type pivot point and I'm easing as slow as I can around trying to get my gun pointed that direction I mean just inch by inch because he's in a pretty much wide open within gun range and he's strutting then he starts gobbling and he goes five or six times and I finally get he's turned that direction and I'm like like are you on him he's like yeah I'm on him and I pull up my gun and yelp at him and shoot him like the craziest thing ever like who'd ever thought that would happen but turkeys get flushed one flies in the tree right below us he ends up flying down and get shot like never happens to anybody except Jordan happens to him happens to him and what what you said was that yeah there's a component of luck to that but there was also a high component of yeah that's what I mean it's like he's it's not I mean I have we thought probably all had I've got buddies that's like every story they come back with I'm like how are you this lucky all the time you just like dumb into success but yeah it's like to say what I said was like just to say that Jordan got lucky would be dishonest because he is good well and in that story to know where that bird was to have the access through the through the other place which takes a lot of work a lot of hustle a lot of energy a lot of desire I mean we waited there's so many briars that morning going on as early as you did I did take a wrong turn and went off in a rabbit ticket I'm talking man I mean like you know like cuts on your forearms kind of thick it me and him both wearing a leafy suits and they were not leafy as much yeah I came out of there stripped him down he's bad got turkey though got the turkey a big turkey too yeah it was big we go long spurred thing I am legitimately pumped about my helix mattress I've been sleeping on helix mattresses now going on five years and I just got a helix king size midnight lux mattress with a cooling pad on top and it's incredible the older I get the more I realize how important sleep is to my overall health and I'm very concerned about my health and man getting good sleep is so important and helix helps me get a 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that mississippi river muddy brow color yeah like that how much black that wouldn't uh ozark and ozark deer wouldn't look like that there'd be a lot more chocolate up on the horn but that's probably been sun bleached a little bit it'll be a nice deer this year yeah yes it will um lacey have you hunted this year yeah um we've been out on our property a few times and yeah that's a pickle ponderosa yeah we bought six acres that we planned on building a house on and there's one long beard that tends to hang around there and we've been we've been going around and around with him when lacey can get off work yeah would would you be comfortable telling some version of the story you told me the other day about what happened no okay never mind no i would not okay i'd know what i said his place is called pickle ponderosa it's like actually yeah i surprised him with that we registered a deed with the county oh that's funny i like it i like it i love it well we've uh so we had some great stories on the last episode of barricades we had a turkey stories episode and uh not everybody got to listen to it my favorite story on the episode was uh cody valines that is a good story that's a good story cody valines he was on the american loggers episodes so he's he's on barricades been on barricades before and uh jordan he told the story of of uh basically calling up a black bear when he was 15 it was just a good story though when he was a kid and uh he i like the way he told the story he said he he had roosted three goblers the night before knew the tree they were in he gets in there calling out the turkeys they're goblin they pitch down and all of a sudden he sees three black blobs coming over the hill and i mean he's got his safety off about to kill this gobbler and it was uh old salbar old salbar and uh it was a good it was a great story and then yonis puttellus told a good story just from texas and then i told the story of lake and i on uh in arkansas last year with a big gobbler in front of us that should have been killable should have been coming in yeah and we're on the field edge and and if you hadn't listened to it this is really this is big time spoiler cut the cut the podcast if you hadn't listened to it yet and uh justin house has a potbelly pig that lives on his farm and i believe that potbelly pig winded us and came in to find us and and this potbelly pig was walking down this fence line while we got a gobbler out here and out of the peripheral vision i mean we're like on this turkey lakes to shoot her so i'm back a little bit and i see a big black round like size of a turkey kind of well that and like it's one of those things when you're turkey hunting everything begins to look like a turkey yeah like the other day me and jordan thought the back end of a black angus cow was a shredder we were like right there oh it's a cow and she was 40 yards away oh really that close i can see how it looked like a fan yeah i mean just so i mean you're just so keyed up and you're like strutter no we were sneaking up like trying to peek into this field yeah she popped out from behind a tree yeah strutter oh well that's exactly what that that pig was moving at the pace of like a strutting turkey and it was a pig and but then lake circles around and kills the turkey like probably an hour later well i was telling like like i was saying jordan is this combination of good and lucky i've i've said this before and jordan would agree it doesn't happen every time but sometimes i'll i'll be talking to jordan because somebody just gets to hear me vent a lot about hunting situations and i'm like like why can't i just ever have a normal hunt very rarely is it just like uh i set up i called a gobbler come in and i shot him like something wonky always has to happen like the potbelly pig and so then we had to make this big loop or like the the deer i shot earlier this year where i'm like got frustrated and let my bow down and saw him coming in i was like who and i'm having to untie my bow from the string when the deer's 30 yards and walking in it's just like something always wonky happens to me yeah speaking of wonky things happening to you okay there it is uh tell us about the hunt tell us about the hunt this morning do you like that segue yeah that was good um okay so we roosted clay josh myself roosted turkey last night and i'm talking i'm i'm not naive enough to think that we've got a roosted he's we're gonna kill him but i i think what i told you last night is like there's no such thing as 100 percent in turkey hunting because there's not but that's about as good of a chance as you could ask for and i i would say that today i mean he he gabbled enough of us that we were able to get 250 200 from him and be like he is right there yeah and great spot to be able to get in get in there tight to him we snuck in in the dark in the pitch dark set up 100 according to on x he was 141 yards away and we said he had his he had his back to a a slew yeah so we you know he could have pitched across that slew but most likely he was going to pitch down on our side so we had a natural terrain feature yeah that was helping us i mean it was perfect and uh we get set up we get still we get quiet we get bathed in mosquito spray because sitting that close to that slew they were thick and uh i just sat there all morning waiting for the dam to bust and that it never did i mean i i mean i was sitting there going anytime now anytime now the first crow i i said are we sure we went to the right on x pin yeah he's got so many yeah you know the twitty birds start tweeting the sun starts to get light and he's not gobbling and sometimes they do gobble before but there's no crows and i go when that first crow goes he's gonna gobble and about two minutes later yeah nothing in late goes that's not good i don't know i don't know what happened the only thing is he something bumped him in the night or he just didn't gobble because we didn't hear any other turkeys until way late i'm talking like as far as like like fly down time and one gobbled to the north of us one time based on the way my morning went on three hours from here i would say he was there he was like yeah because i was where turkeys i was with in shot air shot of turkeys this morning too and they did not gobble yeah it was it was so anyway that didn't work and and trying to keep your spirits up you know because we we had a close call the day before and you know we're you know you just want to get you just want to hunt to go right and i'm like well you know so you could feel at least me we were all a little bit bummed we were like god like you know like that just felt so good and we're like well let's go back towards where we parked the side by side because that night when we roost him we thought we may have heard a turkey on the other side of the road to the west so we get over there and i al and a turkey gobbles and we did a little bit of like the was it that way was he that way i thought he was this way anyway we give him a gobble again we're like okay he's here we move up hit a road there's a the nice thing about this place is there's a really good road system on it so you can pretty you can cut a lot of ground pretty easy um and we start moving to this turkey and we cut a big chunk of distance because he was deep and i get to where we think he should be around 300 yards away i al again he gobbles sweet move up and something about that last gobble he may have been doing this all morning and we couldn't hear him but it was like once you pulled the cork out of him you couldn't stop him i mean he was just gobbling and he was coming no yeah oh no not that not yeah i was like what but he was moving yeah he was definitely moving in our direction he was he was just gobbling and uh so we get to the spot where the road tees into this food plot and then takes a 90 and juts down and he's just in this block of woods and he's gobbling so much and we've got three people we set up probably how 170 200 somewhere in there and i was like let's just play it safe and try it from here first you know like not risk pushing any further see what he does he's gobbling so much you know so we set up right there and another thing having hunted on this place for a long time you open a turkey into the road and get him to come down it is typically how it goes down you know so we start calling this turkey and he's jumps all over it i mean just and cuts distance um i thought for a second and i'm like maybe he's gonna stay in the woods maybe one time he moved a little left towards the road one time he got i'ma say around 120 i could hear him drum uh and then the gobbling just ceased for how long 30 minutes and i'm sitting there going where to go he's taking a smoke very i mean like i'm like we didn't spook him uh where did he go and we sat there for probably longer than we needed to just because i'm like man i don't want a bull rush into it and then the sucker's coming the whole time or he steps out in the road or whatever but we finally decided let's let's push in and i'm like i guess we need to try to get in those woods and you kind of had it and it could be kind of tricky because along these roads there's like these buffer strips of thicket so it's hard to find a path in there with it's not just like making a whole ruckus and so we ease up there find a way in pick our way through find what looks to be the beginning of some more open hardwood timber and we sit down and uh i think it was the second or third time i yelped he hit and he was he had drifted north uh we waited there a little bit longer and clay was like do you want to close some distance i said if he gobbles again he's the same spot we will yelped same spot i said yeah let's cut some distance and we elected to go back to the road this is where the story kind of gets a little bit funny because there was some serious ring around the rosie happening and we can just get we can just you know skip some of that the ring around the rosie well is it getting too long well i was just wanting to get to the good part oh so we we get to the road and we start cutting distance and all of a sudden that turkey gobbles again and we're like he's coming to us like we're about to mess this up so we run back hop back in the woods get to a tree feel good gobb he gobbles again we're like okay we can cut some distance down so we move a little bit further north and all of a sudden we hit this spot in these hardwoods that you just kind of go this this is it like this is this is the spot big open hardwoods big small flat found out later looked around there was some scratching in there and he was just content in there and i remember when we all got sat down i said the thing we got going for us is we already know he's plenty fine coming right here and so we get sat down and i just waited for him to gobble again and when he gobbled again i answered him and he crawled all over it and it probably took from that set up how long did it take 10 minutes 10 minutes it wasn't long uh he he finicked a little bit with the like hey will you come this way but he didn't do that very long and he started cutting distance and um got to about 100 gobbled a few times wasn't much longer i thought i heard a drum and about that time clay said i hear him drum like because that is what it is and i'm just you know at that point like safety's knocked off and i'm just scanning with my eyes trying to catch him like where is he gonna show up place on first that here comes he's right down your gun barrel about that time i can see the top of that white head just coming i'm like oh boy here we go and uh oh heart gets a thumping it had been thumping brother and then when he was breathing hard yeah i was i was very excited he had bulk fever yeah um and it's the rut it's the turkey rut it's why wouldn't it and uh he he's coming and um he gets to about there was a tree i carry a rangefinder with me um there was a tree there was like a little double tree that i had ranged and it was 43 yards and he was the other side of it um not by much so he was somewhere between 45 and 50 which my gun will do every day and twice on sunday um and he comes in and he sounds pretty confident that's the gun works the gun works i at no point will you hear me throw this at the gun the gun is the sound um and he's moving and i'm trying to get on him and he's he's not coming to us we've got our decoys set out and he could have seen it i mean like it's in big open woods decoys like probably 12 yards right in front of us when he's first coming it looks like he's just coming straight to us but he veers he he just veers and and doesn't look like you know sometimes they'll be looking and strutting he's just moving just he did he did blow one time when he was behind that tree he he never did full strut he just kind of puffed and that's when he gobbled and then he just just had y'all yelped at him at any more since you've seen him no we didn't yelp when after we saw it sounds like he the turkeys miss course y'all he might have that's what it sounds but i was he'd gotten so close man and that's what i told well let me tell the story he gets in he gets what gets in my one lane that's like my best lane to shoot and i said can i kill him we're filming yeah and that's what i heard when i said can i kill him that's what i heard and uh when i finally hear i think i hear the word yeah we thought it was more like a like a spiritual question or like a personal question retort talking to himself like can i really kill that turkey can i can i do this philosophical more philosophical i kind of look at josh and go i don't know if he can or not i don't know if he's got it in it uh so by the time i hear yes the turkey is behind a tree and uh he pops out and there was a gap between that tree and a and a smaller tree probably about eight inches in diameter and in my head i like he was moving at such a rate i'm like if i don't try to poke it through right now i'm about to lose him entirely and uh so i tried to force it through that gap and it did not work and the turkey he's somewhere he's out there did he fly or run he flew he flew yeah yeah yep one of those exactly flew it flapped and sailed yeah he's fine man he's just scared a lot and uh the tell you who was hurt the most and that or deals me yeah i can imagine it happens to the best of us yeah so that's what i told clay i was like hindsight i maybe should have tried to yelp at him to see if he'd slow up i just was like if i don't get him right here he's gone and but bottom line is when he made it through that gap like my my big lane that i had i should have just not shot that i should i shouldn't have shot but i probably should have just put the red dot on the turkey but anyway well it was uh it was exciting it was it was exciting it was hard it was hard to watch old lake miss because i knew how bad it would tear him up it did but boys had a rough season it has been he had a rough go over yeah yeah we've been through this before lake and sometimes you have to just do a confession of whatever you've done wrong to the turkey man that's a turkey superstition you have as well in light and clay you have to do some type of confession of anything you have wronged in the turkey woods now who are we the turkey man is god all right yeah okay i thought that part was evident well i mean i was just making sure man they made the turkey some man that's right i'm with you i'm tracking now whatever okay so we've been through this before though oh yeah outside of the turkey woods though this doesn't cover your actions out just your actions in the turkey woods you're you're haunting something something he's done something wrong haunting i don't know what it would be this this my speculation speculations interesting do you have any insight that you'd like to show maybe this is where lacy comes in lacy do you have anything to tell us about lake that maybe he doesn't even see himself sometimes uh you know self-evaluation is really hard because you're blind to yourself yeah yeah you don't really see your problems it's true all of us yeah so well i mean the only wrong that i know of was a few years ago so i don't think it would have affected this season up here so you want to tell us about that last shot of turkey out from under yeah oh sure did oh first time he took me yep he didn't think you were gonna get it did he i guess not i don't but i mean we have talked about this over and over because this was your counselor finally i didn't miss that one so look but listen we were we weren't even engaged yet that was the biggest fight we ever had oh for real this wasn't like a joke oh so it was big and really oh yeah yeah so but did you shoot the turkey because you didn't think she was gonna get on it we had one gun between the two of us because the the intent was for lacy to shoot the turkey maybe this is good uh good job george this is saying we're trying to get this out and open and tomorrow's gonna be a great day yeah we gotta kill turkey the intent was for this the intent was for lacy to shoot a turkey we were on uh what we refer to as a traveling preacher and that's turkey that he's moving in goblin and uh and uh spreading word he's he's taking it somewhere he's a traveling preacher you couldn't catch i mean he was on i mean he was moving like all morning he was moving you try to come back to this different names of turkeys but go on we were on a traveling preacher and uh i mean we had been chasing that rascal all morning and finally he got to this creek bottom and that was i i told lacy something along the lines of like that is the most stationary that turkey has been all morning he got to that creek bottom and kind of just started drifting back and forth goblin and this was the second to last day in the mississippi season so there is a ton of vegetation so you got a lot of cover to work with and so whenever he would drift down that creek i would just inch us up and i would inch us up and i finally got to where he gobbled one time he's down the creek and i sat us down and we were within shooting distance of that creek like 30 yards and uh and i'm like i feel like this is a good spot if you know if you come back in here the other thing is this turkey hadn't answered a yelp all morning you know we'd hear him we'd try to set up on him but again he just kept moving but we sat there and um he kind of stayed where he was and i yelped and it wasn't like a yelp yelp yelp yelp he was kind of delayed but it was the it was like the most oh my gosh that turkey actually answered like and i said hey i know he's like 130 yards away but go ahead and get your gun up pointed this direction he may he may come you know he's got the gun she has the gun and we're sitting there i mean it's maybe been 20 seconds and lacy goes i see him and i'm like oh she saw him first yeah she goes i she goes i see him and i'm like to what like the the turkey that we just heard a hunt like it just didn't make sense how this turkey would be here that quickly well then i glance over and the turkey we heard is this way she's looking that way and i'm like huh and i have this giant water oak tree in my line of view and she's like he's walking this way and i'm like i guess she's looking at a turkey sure enough i mean it a great big water oak tree so when i finally see him there's a long beard turkey just walking at us like what's up no i mean just chilled out where you know where you at girl and walks in and just in these big open hardwoods and he's standing there at 25 30 yards like just looking around and i gave the green light whenever if i say any incorrections feel free oh i will and i said shoot him shoot him shoot him i mean you know it's you're like i'm whispering because the turkey's right there but i mean i don't know much you know very quiet and and lacy's shoulder to shoulder with me and i can hear some sort of struggle going on over there and the gun's not going off and i'm like something has gone awry and the turkey didn't booger but you know how it is when turkey's standing there at 25 yards he ain't gonna stand there forever until he's like something's not right here and he didn't freak out he just kind of turned around and started walking back and he started walking away and don't have much time and i'm thinking is the gun not loaded did i what did i screw up and he when he goes behind that i did that right there where he's like taking some of the blame i probably didn't know that day go ahead so he goes behind the big water oak tree well i mean this thing's massive so he goes behind it i know i've got a little bit of time and i swear i look over i said well the gun not shoot she goes no i said hand it to me so i grabbed the gun and i pulled the chamber back and i'm i'm serious thing i'm like i'm about to see an empty chamber and be like you idiot i pull the chamber back the shells in there and i bring it back shut when i look up he's now off my right shoulder at about 50 yards and i just i didn't think about it i just reacted i just went boom and shot him okay see i thought the plan was give the gun back to me and wait we did not do that so we were not aligned no we we did not do that was that was that an accurate representation of the story i would say so yeah okay lacy so you were upset with him about this though oh yeah no like he got up and ran and was just so excited yeah the most excited and he turns around i'm just like i mean yeah i mean yeah i mean and he's like oh no like it registers like she's upset he's really upset you know and i just couldn't believe it's probably a lot of my fault why he's like that because we've always been like i don't care who hadn't killed a turkey if he wouldn't get some gun range don't let him get out yeah that's not just a jordan thing that's like a we did that primos for years unless it was like bad video like the turkey doesn't leave and that's what we did talk about that but like that was my first time you've taken me i think that's my first turkey hunt ever that was a first turkey hunt ever ever did this were there red flags about this man things got better eventually the whole blowout but i mean like i was still so mad and he made me go out there with him and take a photo like nothing ever happened it's in our house he got it framed it's a great picture i mean it is defense this is a pretty monumental moment here i know but like my eyes were still puffy and stuff i was crying mad i was oh wow i was seriously upset you're not understanding the severity of the situation orally auto parts can help take the guesswork out of check engine abs or maintenance lights in your vehicle with orally vera scan the service is free and provides a report with solutions verified by a se certified master technicians orally vera scan can identify the most likely problem with just one scan if you need help orally 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Now like did you have any red flags when you saw this kind of response? I didn't just I was saying you didn't see the severity of the situation I didn't understand the severity of the situation because again I was like whoo yeah the most excited yeah yeah you even said when you turned around and saw me you were like oh no yeah well I did something was wrong I was like you knew what was wrong yeah but I was like obviously look I won't get wrong this is still a little sensitive you can tell me it's okay no we're better Lacey I think after I hear the story well maybe the panel could speak um when I hear the story I I think your boy did what he was trained to do sure 100% I mean it'd be like if a marine was in this situation this is what he should do yeah and so that day he was a marine and he did his job or like or like the frog in the scorpion when the scorpion skeets stings a frog he's just just doing what I'm sure yeah yeah so and also in lakes defense even though he missed a turkey today right out from under me while while I had my gun laid across my lap uh-huh like I was his daddy I'm not a fan oh Lacey hates to use that one his youth you so model eight seven in his defense yeah you had yet y'all were just dating you weren't even engaged no so I'm saying there's something there like if he had done this after you were married I could see a bigger problem so I'm kind of coming to lakes defense a little bit like we had already decided we were getting married like it had been talked about you probably had you gotten the ring yet I don't know that was like four years ago it's it's the whole thing's a blier we were engaged for a month I would do it tomorrow right so everything was planned before the ring you hear what he said what'd you say I said I would do it to my wife oh he would but like the issue was like I get that's what he was like trying to do or whatever the issue see that was it took like two years to get an apology for him oh sounds like it wasn't genuine no we I feel we're okay I think I'm glad this confession has happened and and you've pulled it all up over there you pulled us into this problem that you've created with with turkey man turkey man yeah a good if you'd have just told us about this situation before we started hunting yesterday we could have fixed it all ahead of time we should have had this story out on the table last night after he roosted hang on hang on if you're gonna start throwing blows josh yeah we're gonna talk about yesterday morning no we're not gonna talk about it I was like you don't know we're gonna start throwing balls no we're not gonna talk about yesterday I gotta hear when I spooked a turkey setting up my camera oh yeah oh yeah that's like no no twice twice same turkey really yeah that's kind of for a cameraman like a miss yeah yeah sure basically that's an equivalent sure yeah yeah yeah pretty much well thanks because that's gonna be out to everybody that pays me for doing this job oh they don't listen hey one time I was filming wheel premos and left my turkey vest about 100 yards behind us and we got finally got these turkeys coming in and they're strutting like 50 yards my camera better does oh no yeah and they come up there like 20 strutting gobbling they ain't got no camera rolling so I've been there we got back to the we're back to the camp that night me and Brad did and Wilbur's just standing in the driveway of the house just like stoically looking and I said walked up to us at will he said hey you good he said Jordan's camera died I went huh he said Jordan's camera died I'm like what did it say he couldn't kill the turkey I'm like I'm gonna need some elaboration on this tail like he was just standing out there just standing looking like a lost child yeah it was not a good day no did he did he uh I had decided what did he do he just sat there watching I tried no no I mean did did did will I know will somehow communicated to you his displeasure oh yeah no very much I mean did he just straight up go like what are you doing what's wrong with you or did he just kind of like he get up and just walk off I had started when the camera died the turkeys were still coming in so I was crawling back to my vest while the turkeys were coming at 60 or 50 yards whatever they were and I was at my vest when they showed up so I was just kind of laid back there behind the camera 75 years I wasn't with him when it happened oh I got you I have my camera had already died and I went to go get batteries while I mean we were looking at the turkeys and I was belly crawling back like yeah I'm gonna get fired wasn't a good day hmm maybe this is good for the team because we got one day left get all this out maybe it's maybe it's turkey it's confession day what lake said though filming turkey hunts is the hardest kind of filming here it is he says that I could I'm gonna it's not easy it's not easy there's a lot of components and for whatever reason not just Mississippi but the south in general I mean very rarely do they actually do what they're supposed to do they usually tie you around you have to get turned and awkward and holding on to a tree one hand filming with the other hand and all kind of crazy stuff it's like where you were saying like you're thinking he was gonna come right at us I'm like I'm not surprised at all that turkey skirted us cagey things no hmm well it's all out now yeah you sure that's the only thing you've done let me think on it let me simmer I nothing comes to mind mm-hmm no it's okay tomorrow we'll be the day we got it all out on the table now yeah yeah all right yeah everyone tell me tell let me tell one thing I did one time that I kind of feel bad about um so one time I was hunting on public land and there's there's this long ridge that's like a mile long okay just a finger ridge in the Ozarks and there's one road that goes this finger ridge to a gate and so if your truck is parked at that gate you basically have access to this entire finger ridge me and you hunted there a lot josh and the canyons on either side of the ridge are so deep and steep that there's basically no access to get on this ridge if if you're not walking right down it yeah and so during the season one day I pull I use I usually get in there so early that I would be the first one at the gate you know but this morning I got in there and somebody beat me to the gate and somehow I told myself and I don't know I think I probably actually had information about this I knew that this guy wasn't going to go very far on this ridge and I knew there was like a mile and a quarter of hunting and I knew there were turkeys there because I'd been hunting there yeah and I felt like that this guy was never going to get past much more than a half a mile down the ridge already don't like where this is going yeah well I did the work though I knew where to park my truck like a mile away I mean like three miles from him and I crossed that that deep canyon in fact I remember found a bunch of bear sign down on the bottom of that canyon and came up on the finger ridge and hunted the the last tip of it oh what do you think yep bad yep okay I mean you definitely put some effort in but yeah I wouldn't do that hmm hmm okay would you do it Jordan nope not if I had that situation if it was like 10,000 acres back there possibly but okay well I got that off my chest yeah I'm glad you said that buddy yeah we got that off and we got an ethical clay yep hmm I have a friend that I just feel the need to tell this story I'm not gonna say who it is because he wouldn't want me to but I have a friend that we were driving to go turkey hunting and this was late in the season I think we were heading somewhere north and he's telling me about his like current escapade that he had he'd gone somewhere and killed a turkey and and he's saying he he said yeah on the walk out he said there's good many people hunting around there he's telling the walk out he was plucking feathers from the turkey and putting turkey feathers under all their windshield wipers like not messing there not doing it I mean just like he'd walk by a truck and he'd pluck a feather and just stick it under a windshield wiper and keep going and I looked over at him I was driving and I did they do anything to you and he's like what do you mean I was like did they come in on you they harass you they park close to you he's like no I was like bruh he was just letting them know who the daddy was I was like bruh you need to get that's some bad juju like you need to get that off you and he was like no and then he missed two turkeys in two days oh really mm-hmm hmm there's something to it hmm well yeah I'm glad we had this discussion um I feel lighter I feel lighter I feel you feel lighter yeah two minute story other morning so my wife killed a turkey Sunday she had we had childcare for Monday and we were playing on hunting okay she ended up eating something didn't agree with her she didn't feel good that night before didn't feel good when she get time to go turkey hunting next morning so like before lake tells me he's gonna go this spot next morning well I text him when I get on the road I'm like hey Jesse's sick can't go I'm coming to meet you I'll be there at six o'clock that's about 30 minutes goes by before I hear anything from him and he sends me a text and says hey I'm going my buddy he said he takes me late last night so we're going so I decided to go with him I'm like what am I gonna do now I'm already 30 minutes down the road because you're on his spot heading towards lake spot oh that's a good one and I go to his spot I park at his spot at daylight at gallant time I walk into his spot and guess what's going on back there a turkey is ripping it I mean every 30 seconds goblin I go towards the turkey and my conscious goes eating at me I get 200 or so yards from the turkey gobbling every 34 or so seconds and turn around walk back to my truck and I'm not saying that praise myself and that's why this guy is good and like it started eating at me I was like lake has not killed a turkey I cannot go do this all right wow like you've waited this whole podcast to tell us this story Saint Jordan well I'm not saying I was just like there's certain things you can't guess but what did but what did lake tell you did like say just go in there I did tell him okay I mean that's important I did tell me there's some important context one I told him to go in there and hunt two I'd been burning to get to that spot for a while it wasn't just a random buddy that texts me it was Keith polk yes Keith polk got me my first turkey ever when I was 12 years old and I have just so the stars have aligned have filmed both of his sons shoot their first turkeys and now his youngest son is in pursuit of his first turkey and I promised him a while ago I said whenever Ben goes I will go so I was gearing up to go to that spot and I get a text at 940 from Keith says Ben and I are going in the morning and I said yep I'm gonna go they had a noble cause so you were doing the right thing so that's how our Monday went yeah dang that's this is compelling so Jordan I'm proud of you I appreciate it but I was just tying that back in to your story about going around the failure at the gate yeah well this was all directed at clay yeah wow wow oh I'll never be invited on this yeah yeah yeah cut this from the tape cut blur out Jordan's face hmm man well did you say I could learn from Jordan in the middle of that yeah I would like to point out you did this I would like to point out there is a gobbler at the pickle ponderosa that I've not hunted one time this is true okay I was just bringing that back to not hunting them one time the hunt where you took my turkey how he had the self-controlled uh if he had not learned that lesson then he would not have done it now though this is true okay we're still fine hmm we're fine wow we're fine wow this is been this has been great this is deep we've learned a lot about every single person at this table and we learned about josh's trip to Patagonia oh oh and the giant brown trout that he killed yep wow so where are we at with our chips I think I have I have uh six chips for lakes turkey and six chips for josh's Patagonia I have done it you're one I've got six chips for lakes I don't have any from well you have more than that you're you're I'm sorry your ears are even too pretty close mine are even yours are even so it's a tie I tell you I'll miss Turkey today oh okay nice lake wins lake wins I wanted lake to win needed it well man I'm excited this is my first this has been my first turkey hunt of the year the last several years Mississippi has been the first time first turkey hunt of the year because it opens early and so it's been a lot of fun we we covered some miles today we've had turkeys within gun range two mornings yep and killed none one more morning morning to go one morning to go so well anything else guys Jordan you uh tell us about your real estate business anybody needs big land in Mississippi or Arkansas this is your man no I appreciate that uh mainly deal with recreational hunting tracks and timberland and delta farmland and pretty much everything we like you know and I work at a company called open season properties and been doing it now for six years five or six years and yeah what I do every day y'all have some big y'all sell some big nice properties down here big nice ones and small nice ones and all sizes in between every every puzzle piece that fits somebody's needs yeah yeah yeah sweet and like everybody I'm doing my introductions here at the end everybody knows lake he does backwood university on our feed yeah um and do that yeah yeah that's what you do yeah anything else you want to anything you want to say I think I've said all I can for the time being okay all right well thank you guys been a fun conversation thank you lacy you really brought you really brought the tea I did on lake today and it may be the factor that gets us a goblin morning so 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