In Onda Cero, Julia en la Onda, con Julia Otero. 20%, 12% or 32% You can vote on Twitter or Instagram Well, this weekend I had a conviction that something would happen in Cuba because this year since it started the weekend is the time chosen by Trump to make one of his own and as Cuba is like it in a desperate situation in the moment in which they had already little, with the embargo of all the materials, and now, as of the gasoline that until now they served Venezuela, we see images tremendous, of an absolute desperation. Imagine that in Spain no could have anything to buy from what you can buy outside. And also, Julia, I think there will be that probably have been going to go to Cuba, and in Cuba it's true that in the last few years there was a lot of time, but what we're seeing these days is being a crazy, because they've cut the griff completely. De todo, de todo. Les queda combustible en julia para 10 días. En toda la isla, ¿eh? O sea, ya no hay transporte. A los turistas que hay en los hoteles lo están concentrando. En La Habana, en frente del Capitolio de La Habana, tienes una serie de hoteles para turistas, básicamente, y están llevándose a todo el mundo ahí para poder darles ciertos bienes básicos y tener electricidad. Pero están asfixiando por completo a la isla porque están haciendo lo que dijimos en su momento, Julia. esa pinza de me cargo el régimen de Venezuela, le digo a México que no exporte ni una gota de petróleo y la isla está siendo un cerco, yo diría que como el de los 90 cuando colapsó la Unión Soviética. O más incluso, ¿no? Sí, claro, aquí además conecta muy bien con todo lo que hablamos cuando tratamos todo el tema de Venezuela, de la captura de Maduro, etc. Y hablábamos del petróleo venezolano. Es que tiene mucha más relación tal vez con esto precisamente, con cercar a Cuba, con cercar al régimen en Cuba, with the potential benefit that they can bring from Venezuela. And now, of course, we have to be very careful because the pinza is very clear and we can't avoid a collapse of the regime. I don't know if in the next weeks, but in the next weeks... Because Trump is a caramel, Julia, if he gets some kind of change in Cuba to look at the midterms. So they're putting much pressure and they're playing to do what they did in Venezuela. That someone within the regime says, well, it's done. I think that a week of this, we will get a week of this, we will get a week of this, or a Saturday, because it is the week of the week, with a change in Cuba. That is, as a curious thing, Julia, it is done on the week of the markets, because they are closed on the week of the week, so you have a job of a week of operation on the Friday night, Saturday night, and you can have two days of colchon so that the world sees that, hey, well, it is not for so, and when you open the markets on the Sunday, So, if you do a operation on a Wednesday, you play the market and you have the weekend with the market in the end of the week. So, you can do it like that to control a little bit the impact. Of course, Trump and his aspirations inbodies, for him, this is a caramel, as he said, what the Cuba is. It's the patio behind the US, to turn Cuba in a vacation for all the US. It's the dream, it's the dream. Like it was really in the years previous to the Cuban Revolution. And we also think about the symbolic victory, which is to end with the Cuban regime. It's something that goes beyond Trump. It's a victory very important for Washington Washington and for, how he entiende, his area of influence, his area is close. And for Marco Rubio, Julia, that we have heard of him ago, for Marco Rubio would be a tremendous goal, because that would be a good job to have a vice president or even a candidato gordo for the Republicans in the next election. Well, no, because there will be something that there will be something that also will have to do with the the world. There are many companies with interest in Cuba. Well, the hotelers, I don't know. I think the Spanish were one of the few that had license to operate with Gaviota, which is the cuban company, all. Yes, yes. It's curious because, before the people were much to Cuba on vacation and I don know if it my impression also the tourism no it my impression because the data says it the tourism has fallen in a pic in Cuba but I observe it in my pr environment I met people who went to Cuba in summer, in a certain time, and they'd enter you, I'm going to Cuba. And now, it's been months, for not to say years, it's been years, that nobody from the environment more or less próximo has told me that he's been in Cuba. In fact, we have an example close, which is that Blas, our friend Blas, was to Cuba, well, two years ago. Two years ago. And the situation was very bad. He said, he was saying, he's very limited, with very recurrent, important, cortes of electricity, that, well, a year ago, it was still a country in which you saw that situation of precariousness. But there was a certain element of the tourism industry, a country that works in that way, but it works. But Blas, in his moment he told us that he had seen everything very limited. So I think that at the end, it ends up making that people obviously not go. If you remember Obama, it was very open, but then with the two first years of Trump, it began to press the pressure, then it gave the COVID-19, with Biden, it didn't revoke much the situation because it was not like for the relations with Cuba, and when it came Donald Trump, it was the puntilla to all this. But we're going to get it, you know, they're going to win. If you're going to get a country, you're going to let it not let it go, you're going to get it. And that now Cuba has no one has any ally in the region. And, for example, Russia has seen that no one has nothing for its ally, but no one has nothing for Maduro, no one for Syria, no one for Armenia. So, they don't expect the help of the Russian. So, they have all the way to win the USA. They are all, they are all, they are all, they are all, they are all. Hace a few days, they published new documents of the papers of Epstein. Miles and miles of files that have inundated the networks, that they are leaving the world with the open, because they have shown very relevant profiles for all parts, for all the world, not only North American, and there are still a lot of people and there are people who have been interpreting what they have published. Let's talk about this because I have the feeling that, as I said, the gravity of what they contain those documents, it seems to be opening titles. It seems to be taking a lot of articles like a cotilleo, with a frivolity that I think extraordinarily dangerous. because when one enters the issue, it is indigerible what we are seeing. Además, Alba and I have talked about this week, we have normalized a little bit everything that is read. It is true, Julia, that there is a lot of information, so there is a little bit of information. For putting it in context, Epstein, the case Epstein, it is referring to this case of pederastia, of menors, that is linked to numerous personalities publics at the international level. This is about the year 2000 when this man Jeffrey Epstein, who was a magnate financier, accused of paying menors to maintain relationships with him at the beginning. In 2005, it was when he denounced several menors and ended up being sentenced in prison. But when he came to prison, which only was 13 months, there are some suspects there if the elite relations that he had with the elite. the help, it was until 2018 when the Miami Herald took the more than 60 women who had been victims of this traffic sexual trafficking and at the head of Epstein and her wife, Giselle Maxwell, who was the one who was responsible for those men and his friends, were a court in 2019 and Epstein's suicide that same year. What happens? That since 2023, they have been published documentos relativos al caso y también ha estado muy vinculado con todas esas teorías de la conspiración. Ahora mismo hay 3 millones de páginas en esta última filtración, 2.000 vídeos y más de 180.000 fotografías. Claro, y todo esto que ha ido contando Edu ha ido a más porque Einstein ha estado rodeado desde su origen de muchísimas teorías de la conspiración. En parte por la falta de información y también por la relación que tenía con la élite de Estados Unidos, como decimos. Vemos que prácticamente todo el mundo, desde los Clinton a todo tipo de cantantes, de personalidades of the United States, of Europe, of the entire world, they know or have had any kind of contact with him. The most important thing defies that existence of a list of clients of Epstein that participated in their network of sexual traffic and that, as we say, would include important politicians, empresarios and celebrities. And according to this theory, the elite of the country involved in the scandal would be looking for, because of that this list no be published. The death of Epstein in prison also gave a another derivative of this theory. The official version is that Magnate was murdered, but others believe that he was killed so that they didn't reveal their implication in the case. And, of course, one of the... Which is veros by other hand Very veros What happens with this Julia is that you tend to say that it to be We have theories of conspiracy which are too much enrevesated or that have parts that are not certain but then, when revelations of such documents, as there are so many information, we see things that seem to be compromised. At the same time, we know that that that exists, we know that many companies, magnates, celebrities, participated in that network of traffic sexual. Now, you know, who is, how, in what way it is true, that no that is what is what is everything that is. And also that it is not only is traffic sexual, that is what is most scandalizing, but it doesn't mean that all those who are friends or close to Epstein are pedophiles, obviously it doesn't mean that. And there are other things like the relationship with Steve Bannon and his support he gave the campaign of Donald Trump in 2016 That's what you think. That's what you think. That's what you think, Alba, that Trump has used it a lot during these years. To basically get rid of the Democrats. You have all this of the Pizzagate, Julia. The famous Pizzagate. The Pizzagate of Clinton. They were used to Hillary Clinton in 2016. There is a connection of the foundation that has always existed between esa idea de los Clinton la élite más pedofilia y todo tiene que ver con este trasfondo el caso Epstein se convierte ya materializa un poco el base llevábamos razón pero no sabemos realmente hasta qué punto todo lo que se está filtrando es cierto son rumores, no son rumores hay un poco de hay muchísimo ruido y no somos capaces de discernir todavía que es real y que no es real Trump ya ha empezado a embarrarlo todo a lanzar teorías de la conspiración sobre esos papeles de Epstein. No lo vi personalmente, pero me dijeron algunas personas importantes que no solo me absuelve, sino que es todo lo contrario de lo que la gente espera. Ya sabes, la izquierda radical. Ese Wolfe era un escritor de tercera categoría y conspiraba con Jeffrey Epstein para hacerme daño políticamente o de otro tipo. Y eso se transmitía alto y claro, así que probablemente demandaremos a Wolfe. So we'll probably sue Wolf on that. So, there are rumors with that. In the end, it's not possible that Trump and Epstein have been in relation. It's true that it's not demonstrated that the accusations that there are against Trump are real. But also, Julia, for putting it a little in perspective, there are different groups in all of Epstein. We have those who appear in the videos and photos, that there is the prince Andrés of Inglaterra. That's to say, that he is denounced, that he has committed sexual acoso. Or violation, or menors. The menors are menores. What happens? That as there is so much information and, on the way, is it generated new information on the basis of the papers, it is very difficult to know what is true and what is true. In all cases, what is evident, Alba, is that Epstein had connections with the elite of the entire world. With the most powerful. Yes, and at the end, here, this is putting in the Donald Trump because, well, we have to think that one of the motors of the MAGA movement, of the American Great Again, is precisely this theory of conspiracy that he tried to feed. If he is now in the center of that same theory of conspiracy, we have a gap, he is showing that he is part, or that he is part of that elite that he said that he would attack. There was people who said that this people had right, all these conspiranoics seem to have acerted, but they have chosen a wrong person, they have chosen one of them. this is a little bit sarcastic, but it's a little bit that is a idea. And also talks about the potential breaches that can exist within the movement MAGA and how they put in risk the figure of Donald Trump. And to the victims, there will be a lot of them. Because, by the way, cuidado with the language, because I seeing many places talking about the victims of Epstein women men no women men are women they are women they are adolescents if we call them men men we seem to disimulate a little bit, we have no gravestone, they are women, some women of 13-14 years, they are women, not women men, they are called men, because that is what we call the language, the words that we have never been inocentes, and by other hand, in the filtration, it seems to be more the abusers than the victims. Of them there are names and in the end of them, they are not. Yes, this is probably one of the most important topics of the Epstein's papers, of everything that has been revealed in the last few days. That, of course, we are losing the famous figure of Trump, the photo of Clinton, but the reality is that the victims have been years fighting for the that they seek the culpables and they have been able to advance the case, precisely because during a long time, the authorities, both Democratic and Republican, have done what possible to that case, because evidently it affects them. But we see that now, their names appear, as well as Julia, much without touch, we have entered a process of victimization, that secret process of how to carry a case so complex, so dolorously for them, now they are completely exposed with the danger that they are supposed to be. No quiero que acabemos sin hablar de Catelyn Collins, es una periodista, la que tiene más coraje en la Casa Blanca, eso es evidente. Se atrevió a preguntar a Trump por las víctimas de esa lista Epstein y miren lo que le respondió y en qué tono y con qué palabras Donald Trump. ¿Qué le diría a los supervivientes, señor presidente? Eres la peor reportera. La CNN no tiene audiencia por gente como tú, ¿sabéis? Eres una mujer joven y no creo que te haya visto sonreír nunca. I know you've known people like you. I don't think you've seen a woman. You know why you're not laughing? Because you know you're not saying the truth. And your organization is dishonest and they should be ashamed of you. Imagine that you should be ashamed of yourself. Imagine that a president, someone who tells you why you're laughing, you're saying you're not laughing, you're not laughing. I think it's brutal. And Julia, it's a mechanism of Trump. She is asking for the victims of Epstein case. And the guy is saying that he is with that derivative, completely changes the focus. In the period of time, there is also an image of the counter-camera of how he acts, because she knows that as he is going to do it, the guy is going to continue there. And what you said is what you said, that we are saying that there is between 1.000 and 1.200 menores, well, victims, because there is also a lot of women, adult women and women, victims of the entire network of Epstein's traffic. It's something very grave. And the same president of the United States, by the connection that had with Jeffrey Epstein, is constantly concentrating the focus. It's a very serious victim. Also, the man most powerful in the country has no intention to resarce what he did or to, in any way, to compensate, with the truth, which would be significant, everything that Epstein has taken to do. And his friends. By the way. All of them, by the way. All of them. Más allá de Maxwell no había ninguna mujer involucrada. Por cierto, que Kylan Collins, esta periodista de la CNN, era la única periodista en la sala. Todos los demás fueron incapaces, con una cobardía que me parece de una cutrez moral despampanante, fueron incapaces de ponerse a su lado y de seguir preguntando y de plantarle cara a Donald Trump. ¿Qué de eso claro? O sea, había pocas mujeres allí. And a woman is the only one who had the arrojo, the ovarios and the courage to ask Trump that. And all the other people, the periodists, keep saying something like that. That ass, ladies and gentlemen, that ass of profession sometimes. Well, to end, let's see the question that you have planned, because it's very late. What percentage of the total crud import of China comes from Iran? The 20%, the 12% or the 32%? Eulalia? Mira, hay opiniones distintas. En Instagram la gente cree que es el 20% y en Twitter el 32%. Anda. Bueno, y la respuesta correcta es... El 12%. ¡Oh! No han acertado, les hemos engañado un poco. No es tanto, pero es importante. Y ojo, cifras oficiales chinas, que por lo mejor hay más por la flota fantasmas. Sí. Anda, pues han escogido porcentajes mucho más altos de la realidad. Es el 12% lo que compra. No, it was Russia. Ah, it's Russia. It's Russia, Arabia Saudí, those are the main import. Well, nothing, that we have wrong. A Alba Leiva, Eduardo Sandaña, thanks. Un abrazo. Hasta the next week. Noticias de las 9. And a continuation, Laura Random.