Three Autos From One Break, $45k PSA Controversy & Bam Adebayo’s incredible 83 point game

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Hey guys, on today's episode of Collector Nation First, Leonard Berry and I break down March Madness. Leonard is the athlete YouTube channel manager for On It. We talked all about what On It's doing with trading cards specifically. Hey, we opened a pack of Gonzaga. Got some hits though. You'll see that and more on the episode. We talked about all the things they're doing with player rights, and you would believe how many sports we talked about that they're doing. And of course, March Madness coming up on Sunday. Brian and I dug into the latest headlines. Bam had a badio hitting 83 points, second all time, unbelievable. When impacted ahead to his cards, we talk about that. Also talked about a break that I was in. A little surprise, three big cards. That and more on Collector Nation. Here's where it gets interesting. Then I go to the next card, the final card. Three out of the same series, same set. Quinn, you're a son of a grass. Three out of a hundred. What are the odds? The odds of that is a mistake, so I don't even know. But there's probably nobody that's seen two. Much less three. Bam had a badio scored 83 points. Kind of writes his own headlight. Bam! Card that was originally graded a PSA 10, got damaged by PSA. And then PSA offered the Collector only $20,000 in compensation for this error. A little fishy. Your job as a CEO is to investigate it. But they tend to never come out. They just kind of let it go. You don't know what to believe. Call in Bluffs. You take you inside the hobby. Here are your hosts, Ryan Offord and Brian Lut. All right, this Sunday we have Selection Sunday. For me, it's always, I always get excited. I'm like, I'm gonna fill out my bracket. I'm gonna do so good. And I don't know about you Leonard. It very rarely goes, girl. That's but look, I got a good luck charm. It's on it. It's Leonard Berry. He is the head of the athlete YouTube channel. It on it. What's up brother? Hey, good to see you again, Ryan. I appreciate you having me here. I agree. I get so excited to fill out that bracket. And I want the first one to be perfect, right? I mean, I like do it and I look it over. I'm like, what if these guys? Yeah, I know. And I'm a Clemson fan. It's gonna be, we're gonna make the tournament for the third year in a row, which is the big news for us. So I'm excited about it from the home team. Talk to me about maybe some of the fun stuff y'all are doing with basketball or the product in general that on it? Yeah. I mean, this, as you know, is probably one of the best times to be like a college sport fans because you have baseball and softball really getting into the swing of things, basketball, everybody looks forward to March Madness, college football is crazy. It sounds ramping up again with spring games. Like you have the opportunity to see your teams out there and can't forget to like wrestling and gymnastics or going into their winter sport championships alongside March Madness. So a lot of fun stuff there. Like you said, we kind of cover it all. So we're focusing on Penn State and Ohio State wrestling as they go for national championships. You know, gymnastics, UCLA gymnastics is always one of the top. And but everybody does March Madness is what matters. Selection Sunday is coming up a few days from now. And the basketball product this year, as you've seen and as you don't, it's just so much fun. We got brand new inserts, general admission, hype. There's a lot of great signatures in there. And I just love the opportunity to kind of connect with some of these guys who I see on the court and who I'm going to be hoping will lead me to a perfect bracket. Be able to know that they signed one of my cards that I'm bowling here. So if you didn't know, you need to know you have the best teams and the best players on it has it all. Again, and we're going to open some right here. Gonzaga, they used to be the Cinderella team Leonard. I'm just not buying that anymore. Dan Hurley has it going on. We ain't no Cinderella team no more. No, they're definitely not. I mean, it's kind of crazy to think about like the run that Gonzaga has been on these past 20 years. They just won the WCC championship again this week. They're going to be in Pac-12 next year. I think that's going to be probably the weirdest change. Like now you're going to have Gonzaga in what's supposed to be a premium conference. So it's cool to see the Zags get the recognition they deserve. And I wouldn't be shocked to see them in the Final Four again this year, especially behind guys like Braden Huff or Graham E.K. who appear on the product. Like you said, some of the best players that we'll see on the court here very soon. Yeah. Well, we're going to see them even sooner as I go for a one-on-one here. And look, here it is. Here's how it's going to go. You send me some comments. We might send, we'll send you some cards. We'll raffle off something. We'll do something fun with the best picks. I'm opening the Gonzaga cards. We're looking for that Braden Huff, Braden Smith, Jalen Warley, high on Grant Foster, you know, to name a few. This is the value pack. You get 40 cards, 10 cards in each pack, four packs. Hey, this does look a premium, my friend. I mean, it just feels premium. All right. Here we go. Right on the top, Braden Smith. It's one of the better players, Stephen Venters. There's another one of the better players, Ty, on Grant Foster. Coming in. Noah, up. I see what looks like. Oh, there we go. Is that, oh, they're blackout. Yeah. Very nice. Nice little blackout right there. Yeah. I would call that a velvet suede. Yeah. I'm a marketer. I'm a marketer learner, but that's how it feels to me. The texture is very suede like. Well, we've got another refractor of some sort here. It's kind of shimmer. Oh, yeah. So that's the orange, orange shimmer there. So that's the value box exclusive. You can't find that orange parallel in a single pack or platinum box. You're only going to get those in your value boxes there. So if you're trying to do the rainbow, you want that orange shimmer. You're going to get it from either opening your own value box or somebody else opened one and you buy it off of them. And then. Cap is colors. Yeah. Another nice little base insert there. And then this guy. Yeah. Graham E. K. on the fusion. So that's another pretty common insert. There's, we have two colors of fusions, and then there's also a one-on-one version. So there'll be one that's like a team color blue, and then there's also that white one. And then there's a premium as well, which is a one-on-one. So. Wow. That was only one pack. I'm like, hey, I've got a pain. There's three more here. All right. Let's see what we got. I'm going to pick up the pace. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, there's some color insert. Oh, that's nice. Yeah. That's hype. So that's one of the brand new inserts this year. That looks gorgeous. Let's see here. Oh, got a aqua. Yeah. That's a teal insert. So people in our TikTok comments will get on me about pulling too many teals. They don't like to see the teals. They don't want to see the teals. Too common of a parallel. Yeah. And there's. Little brandy Smith vision too. I'm liking the color. Lots of color variation here on the table. Shining at me. Day them really. Oh, another blackout. Nice. That does feel nice to the hand. I got to admit it. Oh, another orange shimmer. We got one pack left, right? Last pack magic. So Otto or is there another hit like that would be obviously any autograph? Oh, look at there. Okay. That's fresh. That looks cool. There you have it. And I'll tell you this for a value box. That felt like a lot of value. The number of variations, the blackout, the suede premium. I'm digging it, man. But opening these cards makes me like want to collect Gonzaga cards because the cards are cool. Like I'm like, I kind of want to get whatever I didn't get. You know, like I'm kind of, I'm now curious for the best Gonzaga player cards. So I guess that's the best compliment I can give. Well, we appreciate it. And I mean, that's what we're all about, you know, connecting fans to athletes, you know, through these collectibles, through these cards. Like that's what we're really all about. It really is more about like the personal connection that you can make with players, as you know, being so close to a major university, you can get to know those guys a lot better than you could ever get to know an NFL team or an NBA player. So that's kind of where we come from. That's our background. And we think that that's important that shines through in our packs and in everything we do. We really appreciate it, Leonard. And hey, guys, as it's March Madness here, hopefully your bracket's still intact, depending on when you're listening. If it gets this before the tournament starts on Monday, good luck. And look, go check out on it. You can see them at one of your local retailers. We're going to have them at Collector Station. We're going to be talking about it here on Collector Nation. Fantastic product, doing great things and only getting better. We really appreciate on it. We really appreciate you. What's up, guys? Welcome to Collector Nation. Brian and Ryan here on a Friday the 13th, 2026 of March. The most weird way I've ever said the date, Brian, but I got it out. What's up? Spooky stuff. That was your spooky voice. That was my spooky voice. Oh. How's Chicago, my friend? It was 70 degrees on Monday, and now it's snowing today. So that is Chicago weather. Yeah, especially in March, right? Yeah, yeah, March for sure. Especially in the city itself is with the lake, it really doesn't get that warm. So if you get a east breeze off the lake, the city could be 55 and the suburbs 15 miles away could be 75. So until the lake warms up in June, then it kind of stabilizes. So it's like an air conditioning. But we're in the dead. We went dead summer. We didn't get any spring. I think it's coming back in this weekend, the 60s, but we went straight. It's like 82. It feels like the real feels like 98 here. Not really, but it's hot in South Kaka'laki, as we call it. But and speaking of being hot, Bam Adebajo scored a three points. We record this a little bit ahead of the Friday. So it was last night for us. So bam, I mean, kind of writes his own headlight. Bam. He said he had 49 free throws. Something like 40. He was 43 of 49, I believe. He made over 40 free throws. And his old high score, I think was 41. So he beat his career high score on the free throw line. Yeah. I mean, let's be honest, he was playing the Washington. What's the what's the detainment travels with the globe triders and loses every game? Washington generals. He they were playing. He was playing the Washington generals. I mean, you know, that's the honest guy. But I don't care if he was playing a bunch of tomato cans, 83 points. It doesn't happen often. In fact, it's only happened one time ever or more, which is Will Chamberlain. What's happened in the Ludex world this week, Brian? You know, what's kind of interesting is that that bam is a perfect example of what we talked about. You and I talked about last week about how important the collection management and inventory management and being able to search and sort and filter through your collection. How many bams do I have? Yeah. I mean, you're like, I know I have bams, but I have no idea where they are. You just type it in. There's the cards, tells you what location where they're at, box four, row one, and you go grab them and you throw them on eBay. And last month, I think there was three bam. I think it might have been 2018's prism, silver prism. And this month, there was like 47 transactions. So if you were able to get your card out and first to market and get it out and say, eBay, quickly, you made some money on those things. This is what the, hey, we preach this and some of you have taken note and done the smart thing, downloaded the app, paid for some of your ultimate buy, spinning a little too much on packs. You can offset that with some quick sales and stuff you don't want. We've tried to lead you to water, but this is the perfect example because I did this. I did this exact thing, Brian, and we're close to having all of our stuff organized to get on blood X, but being a store, it's on the list and it's happening this week, actually. But I did the exact thing. I went, how many bams do we have? Cause I knew we had some number ones, but I had no idea. It's the perfect example. You're so right. Anybody that was smart last night went into their Lottex app went, all right, search for bam, bring it up, hit three, four or five buttons on eBay. Boom. And you catch that wave of probably like 24, 48 hours. Maybe where he, cause let's be honest, I love bam. I've always respected bam because he does the hard stuff rebounds, defense. He's a great, he's a, I would want him on my team, but he's not a prolific score typically. So this probably isn't going to, I don't think he's magically going to become a 40 point a night guy, but it's a lightning in a bottle. So moving quick. And that's what the Lottex app and collection management powers you to do. Yeah. I mean, he's a 20 point the game guy. Oh yeah, this would be a blip that I would sell. Craving the coffee flavor you love, but without the caffeine, Kachavas got you covered with their newest coffee flavor. This all in one nutrition shake delivers bold, authentic flavor crafted from premium decaffeinated Brazilian beans. Quality nutrition shouldn't be complicated. 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I'm Will and I created IQ Bar plant protein bars to empower doers like you with clean, delicious, low sugar brain and body fuel. IQ bars are packed with 12 grams of protein, brain nutrients like magnesium and lion's mane, and zero weird stuff. And right now you can get 20% off all IQ Bar products, plus reshipping. Try our delicious IQ Bar sampler packed with seven plant protein bars, four hydration mixes, and four enhanced coffee sticks. Clean ingredients, amazing taste, and you'll love how you feel. Refuel smarter, hydrate harder, caffeinate larger with IQ Bar. Go to eaticubar.com and enter code BAR20 to get 20% off all IQ Bar products, plus free shipping. Again, go to eaticubar.com and enter code BAR20. Yeah, quick. So how many scans on the average day does Lodex do? Well, on a weekend, we'll do about a million. Yeah, a million a weekend, and that's four million. And we'll do about 350,000 a day. So we'll be between like when it's cold out in the wintertime, we'll do 12 million cards, and then in the summer, it's probably more like nine to 10 million. Jeez, Louise, the amount of data being slung around there. So again, everyone listening, if you don't do this, you should be. This is taking the Lodex app. You hit the button, it says scan card, and you're scanning any of one of your trading cards, Pokemon, football, basketball, football, whatever it might be, and it puts it into scans and identifies at a high rate. I know this. I've watched it. I've watched it grow like a little baby. How accurate it is now. It identifying that card and the variant and all the fun stuff that's not easy, but looks easy because it goes so fast. And they're doing nearly 350,000 of those scans a day on trading cards. Unbelievable. I like to bring that back up, Brian, because I think, you know, we talk about it like every few months, but like you never know when someone's news listening, and I think wrapping your head around just how many people that is and how many cards that is. Yeah, we did 160 million cards last year. God, there's a lot of attics out there in the hot. There's a lot of cards. And I'm one of them. Card addicts. Yes. A lot of cards. I'll never forget the 28,000 Tom Brady's. Oh, yeah. But that guy that is a 28,000. He came, I forget how many, 12,000. 12,000. Sorry. 12,000 Tom Brady's. He came up to the booth at a national. I was like, guess how many of Tom Brady cards I have in a lot of X. And he showed me. I was like, whoa, dude. You're the one crashing our servers. Slow down, dude. Yeah, exactly. He's the data killer. Like, you know, they put the limits. Like, I'm sure y'all do too. Like doing the crunching, the numbers, the average, like based on your fees and stuff, like data, hey, you know, unlimited data. The average user is two gigabytes. And there's always Ralph who's using 3,464 gigabytes a day. Throws the math. Throws them. He's him. That's him. 12,000 Tom Brady's and 9,000 of them base cards. You, well, the collection was worked like almost $800,000. Well, probably like one, one like refractor Ricky was like 759,000. And then the rest are, uh, that he bought like out of a pack. I don't know who knows. You never know. I'm sure they were spread out more than that. Tom has a lot of cards. Let's be honest. He grew up in the mecca of, of, you know, when things got big, when he started, it might have been just kind of rounding up. But then that guy, they're telling how many total cards he has. And he played a long time. Yeah. Dude could still be playing. Looks like. So, Bella was going to tee up this next story, mainly because there's a lot of big words and, you know, fishy behavior going on. All right. So there's a little PSA drama. When is there not? Did, didn't say that. But a 2004 Japanese space fissures doxy movie commemoration, liticular card that was originally graded a PSA 10 got damaged by PSA during in a encapsulation process that reduced it to a PSA six. And then they, which sold, which PSA 10 sold for around $45,000 in February by PSA themselves. And then PSA offered the collector only $20,000 in compensation for this error. That sounds like a mystery here. Yeah. Sounds like a disease. First of all, not. Three words I love commemoration, lenticular encapsulation. Three of my favorites, especially in, uh, uh, what's the spelling be? You already know it. I don't even know what. Yeah. Anyway, it all adds up to a little fishy. I mean, I just would think they got enough going on to, to, to want to take this on, you know, like, yeah, you've bought two of your competitors and got away with it where no one else would have. You're kind of rocking the boat, increasing prices, and it makes sense with supply and demand. And I've already explained my opinion on that, but you kind of got a little bit of this negative air blowing about you. Why even bring this on? Well, I guess we have to ask ourselves like, where is that? Like, what's who's doing, who has the power to do that first? Yeah. So if it's a guy running, you know, his little division of the buyback stuff and the guy makes, you know, 80 grand a year, I can see him be motivated to do stuff like this. Yeah. Tell me from the top, from a multi-billion dollar company, they're not flipping cards for 10 grand, I mean, in 20 years. It's just, so it could be like more of an inside job that, you know, that Matt and the team don't know about. But when it gets out there, your job as a CEO is to investigate it and come up with a conclusive, this is what happened. This is how it happened or this is false, but he should come out with something, but they tend to never come out. They just kind of let it go. You don't know what to believe. And allegedly, they tried to get the guy to sign a confidentiality agreement with said $20,000. Little more fishy. I'm sure they did. It didn't work. Are they real or? Yeah. We need some, they need to donate a charity or something. Like the PSA, you know, feeding the hungry award or something, you know, like, they need some PR here, damage control. They need like some youth groups and give them some 10s and let them have some fun. Yeah. And you need some influencer marketing like to seed the market. Oh, no, they're not that bad. They're actually really good people. They actually upgraded my eight to a 10, you know, for no reason. And I got, it gave me more money. Like we need some of this news to go the other way, right? Yeah, you got to do it the other way. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, in other news, one piece cards alone saw PSA grading increases about 700% six months. Promo's already selling for five figure prices. So, I mean, there's no denying the power of them in the secondary market. I don't even know. I mean, I don't know anything about those things, do you? Yeah. We get asked for, we have a few options in the store, the collector station here in East, South Carolina. But if we're getting, we get requests, there's a lot of requests for that and magic cards. Magic. Quite a bit. And it's not surprising that that entails then grading increases because again, grading is just, it's so much more in the vernacular now. It's like, I'll say this Brian, every other customer that comes in brings upgrading. Oh, we're going to get this graded or do you all grade, do you all have to grade, do you all send cards off? Do you, I mean, like, I don't, I'd probably actually say 75% of every customer that walks in the store brings up grading on some level. I mean, it's part of, it's, I mean, it's, it's probably the most, one of the most important things in this industry. Yeah. You know, it's just fun. It was nothing. I mean, it was not even part of the industry in 1990 when I first, you know, finished collecting. And also like the magic community, they don't love their cards graded. And so, and that, so one piece is more like, is there a gameplay with one piece? Yeah, I know there is. But it's magic. All that, the cartoon, anime, sorry, not a cartoon, called anime. I know what it's called. The one you hate, male from your one piece. I know what it is. I actually appreciate the artwork. Pretty nice. It's a little racy at times, you know, catch a bell over there, floating through packs and set, say, you know, like, could you do that after hours? But other than that. Yeah. There's a, the magic people, they actually want to use them to play the game more than any other gameplay that I've seen. Yeah. If you saw the cards, you don't understand why. Top Territage baseball using a world's greatest year style retro design, continuing the nostalgia driven heritage line that appeals to both modern and vintage collectors. I think we talked about last week, there's just so many players, you know, and then you go to Bowman Draft, you go to Bowman First. That's like, I mean, it's so hard to make the major leagues. And yeah, I mean, I like collecting baseball cards and like watching it. I kind of like collecting it when they become real big leaguers. Yeah, I agree. Have you heard this story? Did we tell you this? Yes, I heard it and it's insane. I mean, you have to end with this. Like, yeah. So it's, I think it was last Thursday, Wednesday or Thursday of last week. And I haven't bought into what not in a while. I used to, like everyone else probably buy into too many breaks and like, all right, I'm in six breaks right now. I'm not sure which I'm going to um, um, I was watching, but you know, yeah, it was fun. So I decided, hey, we'll, uh, we'll buy in a little bit here and see, get a little action going. So there was a prison, it was choice, I believe, prism choice. It's a single pack, uh, prism 2025 football. So you get a single pack in the box and they were open to case. So 12 box case, so 12 total packs being open. It's a heater box. I mean, it's fun. A lot of numbered cards. It's got the, I ever, cherry blossom, every like major nebula is like the big hit. And I did random player on the wheel. It was like 300 players. And I got a Stevenson, the running back from the Patriots, good player, but not, or an exciting pickup. Let's be honest. Uh, and then I got Quinn, yours again, showed to promise at the end of last year, a little unproven, not sure what's going to happen with him, but might be starting next year. It's cards, they have a decent value because you play at Texas. And I think there is a lot, a fair amount of people think that he might ultimately be a starter in the league, if not there somewhere else. So I get those two guys and let's just say, uh, fell asleep before I could watch the break. It gets late, man. These guys, I don't know how these guys do it. They're just going late and offered to go to sleep and, uh, fell asleep. I had no idea that I had those two guys. I'm like, how good or how bad could it be? And you know, if you've done whatnot and you're listening, you know that they don't exactly, they don't send you who you got. You either watch that or you don't, or you go back and look at the video receipt, which is never the right time and moment. You have to watch like 30 minutes to see what you actually got. It's dumb, but I guess it's something. So I didn't do that. I just said, whatever comes in the mail will be like Christmas morning. Let's just say I'd even forgotten that I even bought into the break. So I think that's a bit like, is a little under a hundred bucks for both. And to get Stevenson and yours, not very exciting. I'm not expecting to make my money back. I'll just say that. No, that's why you went to bed. That's why I went to sleep. So we'll start with, I got a Stevenson card. It was an out of 14. We're about as good as you could do, you know, other than like a cherry blossom or something ridiculous, like probably as good as you could do for him. Like $20, $30 card. It gets interesting with Quinn yours. First card that's in the pack was this one that I'm holding up a silver Quinn yours prism, which is actually, I believe like 15 bucks or something, 15, 20 bucks. Somebody's going to DM me and say, no, that's $7. Okay, fine. Whatever it is, it's not terrible, but obviously not a, didn't make up that $85, $90, whatever the exact numbers. The exact numbers somewhere in that range plus tax. Then here's where it gets interesting. The next card holding this up, you need to be watching. Hopefully you can see it. We'll zoom in something like that post-production. It's an autograph Quinn yours. And it's like a scope. I don't know the exact parallel. It looks like silver scope or something. Not the mouthwash. And it was a one out of a hundred. Oh wow. And it was 100 out of a hundred. It was like, Hey, wow, I got an auto. That's, I know enough to know that that was probably like 80 bucks. That turns out it's right around 150 or $50 card. Hey, made more than what I spent. Okay. There's still more cards though. Proceed to seek card behind that. It's another Quinn yours. Autograph in the same case. It's the same card. Oh, I got number. I almost hit Jersey number. It's 14 is our excuse me, 16 to his Jersey number is 14. I hit 16 out of a hundred. The exact same parallel. I'm like, what are the chances that you get two autographs? Then I go to the next card, the final card, three out of the same series, the same set, Quinn yours autographs, $350 Quinn yours autographs in the same case, three out of a hundred. So 3% of the entire series are set or variations, the exact same card. If you're, you only believe this if you see it and I'm holding them up for everybody watching three individual cards. We have 100 of a hundred. We have 16 out of a hundred and we have 50 no six, six, zero, six, zero out of a hundred. Yeah. That you, I mean, you're not too far from cornering the market on those. Then you can move the price. I'm going to get in a few more breaks and see if I can get this one again, changing way to watch colors basketball with a one day pass from sling, get instant access to the men's and women's tournament starting at just $4.99. 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And here's how like I did fine and went and watched the actual breaking. They were hitting so many cards that were so good and the guy was obviously just so used to the big hitters. He hit the one. He's like, Hey, good hit man. All right. Thanks. Thank you. If I'd have been on how to say thank you. In the caption, you know, written it. Thank you for getting that card. But I went on was okay. So he comes up. All right. Then he hits it like four packs later and he hits it and he kind of pauses, but he's had, he's already every, every card in these packs is a hit. They're all numbered nebulous. So I forgive him that Quinn, you were standing out as an auto. It wasn't really that big of news compared to the other things he was hitting, but he kind of pause. He goes, I think that's another Quinn yours. Hey, good job, man. I'm like, okay, cool. That's cool. Double thing. He, it's the like second to last pack and he's gone through so many more cards. And I understood. I was like, I first, I was expecting him to do cartwheels. I couldn't believe that he'd gotten three, but he's done so many more cards. He got to the third one and he goes, I think we've hit three of those. Like, and he couldn't quite remember. He's gone through so many cards. He's like his buddy or whoever's breaking with him. He's going, is that three of him? And like, and he wasn't looking on the back to see that it was numbered. So he wasn't picking up the fact that they were all three out of a hundred. He was just seeing the auto. And so he picked up on it. He goes, did we really get three quick? Like he kind of, he didn't make a big deal of it, but like, I think if he had looked at the back of each one of those and seen that they were all the same set, he would have made a much bigger deal out of it, but it was a little bit of like, Oh God, dude, you should, this is a rarity that you missed it. Yeah. And they got deluded a bit. You know what had been better is if they were all the same number, like if it was a hundred, hundred, hundred, hundred, hundred, like different ones, three different sets are the same, are the same one, like to prove that the, to prove that they're actually duplicates out there. Yeah. That would be a scandal, you know, that would have been. Are these made by PSA? Sorry. Just like, well, let's be honest. Like he's kind of getting to that point. Yeah. So anyway, if you're listening and you've really seen three autos of a same player out of a same set in one case, let us know. But I have to think, even though that's a limited, you know, that that choice or is not as many as like hot, like freaking like blaster boxes or something. I still think there's probably thousands of cases of that, right? Yeah. There has to be. So to get one, three of the 100 of the same player mistake on the manufacturing end, but the odds, I should go play the lottery. You just did. I won the lottery. I won the strategy ticket. The Queen lottery winner. And look, my fascination with this story and like that is less about like, you know, it's great. Yeah. $400 or $500 with the cards is not like, it's cool. Like, yeah, I'm very happy. I didn't lose money on that break. My fascination is more the odds, like thinking through like knowing data and math, you know, at least on some level going, the percentage chance of that is so low. It should be worth more than 500 bucks. It should be Brian. That's the point. That's the point. Can we, can someone make this worth more? I don't know. I needed that to be like the billion dollar, you know, 50 billion dollar jackpot that I have never played, whatever it is. The odds were much lower that you got them and the price is lower because. That's my point, Brian. I, someone should award this spectacular amount of luck that I had with more than when you were at AutoCards. Yeah. My book. Oh, thanks, Brian. That makes you feel better. That's all that matters. Yeah, that's all. Brian, you final words today. I'm good. I'm going to head out to Dallas. It's a little warmer there than Chicago, but that's it. And like I always say, I appreciate being on here with you and Bella, thank you for another great show. We appreciate you, brother. Hey, if you see Brian, look for any Lodex stickers, anything, hopefully he's decked out. He'll give him a pat on the back. Thank him for putting out such a great app and for being such a great guy, which he actually is. And I appreciate him. And we appreciate you. We know you got options. We hope you make this and tell, hey, do us a favor. Tell someone you like, tell someone you love, tell them about the show, tell them about Lodex. We would appreciate it. And hey, that's all we do it. We do this to be informative, to have fun, to give you an outlet for something to listen to about the hobby. And Brian and I thank you dearly for tuning in. L-U-D-E-X, check them out in the App Store. 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