Untraditionally Lala

Baddies, Babies, and Big D*** Energy

19 min
Feb 6, 20262 months ago
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Summary

Lala Kent and Amber Childers conduct a Q&A episode of their podcast 'An Unlikely Affair,' discussing personal topics including co-parenting challenges, therapy, relationship concerns, and their daughters' development. The hosts share vulnerabilities about future family planning, dating experiences, and their close friendship while navigating life as single mothers.

Insights
  • Co-parenting with narcissistic ex-partners requires daily emotional reset practices rather than traditional collaborative approaches, suggesting need for alternative family structures
  • High-profile women in entertainment are increasingly open about mental health struggles, therapy hesitation, and the challenge of finding compatible therapeutic relationships
  • Friendship bonds between women in similar life circumstances (single motherhood, public scrutiny) provide crucial emotional support systems that rival professional mental health interventions
  • Concerns about biological clocks and egg viability are driving family planning decisions for women in their mid-to-late 30s, even those previously certain about family size
  • Children's relationship dynamics shift significantly with age, requiring parental adaptation strategies as siblings develop independence and romantic interests
Trends
Rejection of traditional therapy models in favor of self-directed emotional work and sponsor-supported wellness programsParallel life experiences and synchronized major life decisions among close female friendshipsIncreased transparency about co-parenting failures and narcissistic relationship dynamics in mainstream mediaDating preferences shifting toward age-appropriate partners with aligned life goals (children, commitment) among women 35+Biological fertility concerns becoming normalized conversation topics in entertainment and lifestyle podcastingSibling bonding as primary retention mechanism for children in split-household arrangementsFirst romantic relationships occurring earlier (elementary school) with different definitions and expectations than previous generations
Topics
Co-parenting with narcissistic ex-partnersTherapy hesitation and mental health treatment barriersSingle motherhood and family planningBiological clock concerns and fertility anxietySibling relationships in blended/split householdsDating and partner selection for women 35+Childhood development and first relationshipsFriendship as emotional support systemParenting philosophy and household boundariesVulnerability and authenticity in public figuresGender-specific parenting concerns (wanting sons)Divorce recovery and moving forwardCelebrity relationships and public perceptionGenerational differences in dating and relationshipsEmotional guardedness and trauma responses
Companies
Vanderpump Rules
Lala Kent discussed her appearance on the reality TV show, noting she was 24 in her first season and is now 36.
People
Lala Kent
Co-host of 'An Unlikely Affair' podcast, discusses co-parenting challenges, therapy concerns, and future family plann...
Amber Childers
Co-host of 'An Unlikely Affair' podcast, shares parallel life experiences with Lala including single motherhood and d...
Riley
Lala's daughter who has a close bond with her younger sibling Ocean and recently started dating.
Ocean
Lala's younger daughter who has a strong sibling bond with Riley and visits her father's house.
London
Amber's daughter who had conflict with Riley but has developed a stronger connection over time.
Quotes
"There's no such thing as co-parenting. It's been a real challenge."
Lala Kent
"Narcissists don't co-parent with you. They counterparent. Whatever you want to do, they're automatically going to say no."
Lala Kent
"I want a partner and I want to do it from the beginning, right? I want to do it from like the time of inception all the way to the delivery room."
Amber Childers
"You're someone who knows me in the most vulnerable and raw state that I have really ever been in."
Lala Kent
"It's a daily practice. It's like every 24 hours, I have to reset because I don't know what's going to come up."
Lala Kent
Full Transcript
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Saturday nights are made for Mayhem with celebrity sabotage. Watch me, Joe Dummy. Me, GK Barry. Me, Sam Thompson. And Fuddy Love. It's course and pay us. Do not move a muscle. This is no mad. Find that commercial place. Watch out, this is a funny deck. Celebrity sabotage starts Saturday 21st March on ITV1 and ITVX. Hi Amber. Hi Lola. Welcome to an unlikely affair. Hey babe, Lola Kent and my right hand. Amber Childers. We are podcasting for an unlikely affair. Live from Radio Row in San Francisco. And I'm so thrilled to be here because I'm in my element, like looking at all the fine man. I noticed. We're not sharing a room. I'm not happy about that. I was a little bummed about it too but then I was like, I might come in for a little 2 a.m. snuggle. I guess I could have some fun. Oh, oh, I don't know. I like where your head's at. There are some bodies. Yes, one over there that I see. What, two o'clock? I don't know. How does a clock work? 1212. It's more of a three o'clock, I see. So we are going to do a Q&A today. I'm super excited you guys wrote in. This is like one of my most favorite things to do on the podcast. I feel like we do all the time on untraditionally Lola. But we have not done like a deep dive Q&A for an unlikely affair. I've been dying to do this since the beginning. Really? Yes. All right, well let's start. You want to pull them out? All right, so we have this little red, very cute box here. Oh my gosh, I'm so excited. Okay, question number one. Oh, Lola, this is actually what's meant for you. Okay, let's try and read it. Are you considering seeing a therapist in 2026 to work through trauma? You know, and you know this woman, and I spoke about this woman on season 10 of Venter Pump Rules. But therapy, although I know that it's good for you and I've seen so many people benefit from it. And I'm not saying I haven't seen a therapist since this moment. But I noticed that my guard is up in so many different ways, whether it's men, friendships, therapists, that it's going to take a very special therapist to be able to get me to put my guard down because at this point, my guard up is like second nature. Like you will have done nothing wrong. There's no red flag to be seen, and I just walk around with it up, which I think you really too. Yes. Capacity, I nod you of that question is wanting me to say yes. Is that like an actual question or kind of like, hey, you should get a therapist. No, I think it's, I personally, from my perspective, if I can have a say on this, I think you've done so much work on yourself just by living and experiencing and feeling, and like therapy has been a big part of my life for a long time. But I feel like I'm in the same boat with you. Like, you're doing great. I think you're doing great. If something comes up, you need to address, pen to paper. That's how I feel that way as well. And also, like, I don't want a therapist that wants to go back to my childhood. It's like, that's said and done. I don't need to like relive certain things to get. Like, the past is the past. Let's move forward. So it, that's the problem. That's the problem. That's the problem. You have to find like your, your person. Yes, 100%. And if you start with the new therapist, it's like you have to start all over from the beginning. And like you were just saying. I don't want to start over. Like, don't start over. Like, we, we, we've addressed it. Like, we've taken all the skeletons out of the closet and our fears and our, you know, whatever, whatever you're working on in therapy. And it's like, okay, now you move forward. Move forward. Yeah. When we, you're the horse. You're galloping forward. I'm a little bit, little bitch. But also we work with our sponsors a lot. So that's another thing that like, no, is it therapy? No, but it's someone who actually knows the ins and outs of trauma and how to stay sober. So they're long, long story longer. Like, I'll think about it. All right, great. Your turn. All right. How do you move on from someone you have to co-parent with when you're not in contact? How do I move on? Yeah. How do you move on from someone you have to co-parent with when you're not in contact? Ooh. It's a daily practice. It's like every 24 hours, I have to reset because I don't know what's going to come up. And, you know, what I've been told in a lot of books that I read and, you know, through my own experience is that narcissists don't co-parent with you. They counterparent. Right. So whatever you want to do, they're automatically going to say no. And, and I, again, like, it's not just like the mom's way or no way. I'm all for hearing, but unfortunately in my personal experience, I've had a really difficult time co-parenting. Maybe we have a good, you know, three days and I get super hopeful and I'm like, oh, wow. Like, we're on a good track and it's like, bam, you forget. You know, you get caught up in like, oh, maybe they're able to actually co-parent. Yeah, you have hope, exactly. So there's no such thing for me personally in my journey and in my divorce. There's no such thing as co-parenting. It's been a real challenge. I share that with you. There's no such thing as co-parenting in my situation. I don't have the hope. We haven't had a good day in a long time. Two separate households. I don't really tell him what's going on at my house. He doesn't tell me what's going on at his. Ocean just knows the moment she enters the door. Rules change. Yep. Over there, I don't give one fuck what you do. Yeah. The moment you step into this house, you will be respectful. You will be kind. You will say, please, thank you. Like, let's remember who runs shit here. Yeah. Me. You're the captain. Yes. You're the child. I am the mother. What I say goes. What do you do over there? None of my business. Amen, sister. Amen. All right. Next question for you. Is it hard for you that Amber gets along with her ex-husband and says positive things about him? How does that make you feel? I've tried. I've tried. But how does that make you feel? I don't know. I don't think we've ever had that experience together. You and me? Like, I don't think you've ever witnessed me actually. You know what I say? I think not to answer your own question. Like, all of the podjusts? Do you talk pleasant? I don't care how anyone talks about him. People can be kind about him and talk about the positive. And I think the only thing that I've ever said that was positive was he makes it really fun at his house. And it's true. He does. It's like Disneyland. Yeah. What I have to say positive is he's doing the best he can. Next question. Is the Lala. She sees on TV like the Lala she knows. Have you ever seen the Lala? Well, I've seen like maybe three minutes of a Vanderpump thing. And I do have to say. I saw you Lala like very first season. So how many years ago was that? I mean, that's when I was, I think, a decade more than a decade. My first season I was on. I was 24. I'll be 36. Yeah. No. I mean, it's definitely it. I don't watch, you know, the Valley coming is obviously coming up for you. And the last few seasons of Vanderpump. I don't watch. So I don't know if that's a fair. A fair for me to answer that question. But what I like you saw me get Lala in the car today this morning on the way to San Francisco. Really? Yeah. If that was, if that was quote Lala. I was either the new version. Oh, that's nothing. Okay. You're good. I love who you are. You're, you know, yes. And I love that you have like a sharp tongue in your, you could go, you could go to the mats, but you don't do it in. In, in a way to me anyways, you do it with passion and purpose. And I think a lot of like the Lala that I've seen that would probably be comparable to Lala on Vanderpump is when we're dealing with our personal lives and, and our kids. Like I've seen, you know, just 20 minutes ago. Yeah. What I just dealt with 20 minutes ago. Yeah. I know. But you know how good it makes me feel because you're someone who knows me. Like in the most vulnerable and raw. State that I have really ever been in. Like you were my, one of my first calls. I felt comfortable with you knowing like when I had left him where I was. I knew you'd keep me safe. Um, I think because you don't watch the show and you only know, I mean, real life from real life. You know me in my day to day. And as a mom, you come and stay with me. But it makes me feel so good that just outside you guys, and I won't get into details. But a situation that involves my ex and I hung up the phone and. Not with him, but went up to Amber and was like, mother fucker. And she was like, I'm so sorry that reminds me of this time. And I just feel like we see each other in a way that like no one else is going to see me. Yeah. Yeah. I do. Yeah. What is their biggest worry in their own life? Oh, I love this question. That's a great question. I'm going to talk, I have many fears. Let me have a night. My biggest worry right now is that I'm going to find a partner who I really, really like. I know where you're going. Um, he wants a baby and I'm like, okay, let's do this. Where does that, how will that affect so set? Yeah. That's my, that's something that I worry about a lot. No, I'm not saying that I want a third baby. I'm just thinking about the future and what could the future bring? And like, where would that leave her feeling if her older sibling had a dad and her younger sibling had a dad and she did not? That's really difficult. That's a really difficult one. Well, I definitely think what's your biggest worry? My son spots on my face. Well, if we're going vanity, then I have a laundry list. I was like, wow, it's like I'm a self in the mirror going, oh my, and when you put makeup on, like you were saying earlier, you. I'm just not used to wearing makeup like this and it's, I don't wear it in Montana as much, but I know, no, on a very serious note. I, I've been really playing with the idea of like a same, we're always so parallel in life. Are you worried about kids right now? Yes, I told you. I'm worried about, like, if I decide, if I meet someone, right? Because I've been dating more age-appropriate men who want children. What is age-appropriate for you? Like four or five years older than me? Okay, great. That they're going to want kids and I would never want to rob someone of that experience because I think that is the greatest treasure and gift and experience that you could, a human experience, you could have as a woman, the miracle of being able to bring a kid in the world and, and see, and see you. It's just so, I have, it's like so weird, it makes me get choked up when I think about it. But, I've always, I want a boy. I feel like I would be, I want a son. So there would be very specific things that I would have to do in order to, to get a son. Like, it's not just a, I'm sorry, I'm laughing because we both, last night we were like, what if we would have had boys? Oh, no. No. That was God. Thank you, God. No, we have amazing girls and, but you want the boy. I want the boy. I want the boy. I want the boy. I want the boy. I want your, your, um, life is missing that. Yeah, there's like something nudging me in my, my stomach that's like one more and then I start thinking about, oh my gosh, my experience. And I know it would not be the same because I definitely would not have a baby with someone who was even remotely even close to the experience I had the first go around. I want, I really want a partner and I want to do it from the beginning, right? I want to do it from like the time of inception all the way to the delivery room to like the, you know, the whole experience. I want that so badly, but I don't know. I'm 37. My, these eggs might be like, yo, you're done, bitch. You're done. You just never know. Well, you know. And that makes me sad too. I can't talk about it. When I put makeup on and I look at my under eyes, I'm like, oh, you're arching. You hold. Stop. No, not stop. I don't even want to talk about what my eggs are going to start to look like. Oh. I take someone's pride in my ovaries. I know. They're beautiful. They are beautiful. At every, at every stage. All right. Wait, you're putting yours back in. No, I'm not. They're all right here. Okay. Left it late for Mother's Day. Don't worry. Moon pigs got ya. Because there's Mother's Day cards. And then there's Moon Pig Mother's Day cards. Aww. You can add stickers, her favorite photos, even a message in your very own handwriting. Get it there with next day delivery. So there's no path, no panic, and you'll still be the favorite. Plus get 20% off when you use code Mum20. Because this Mother's Day everyone deserves her. MoonPig.com. Okay, I like this one. They like to see each other find someone. What's celebrity would you set each other up with? I know. I know. I set you up like the type of guy. Okay. Like, like a, what's that guy's name from fucking the motorcycle show, Sons of Anarchy, Charlie Hunna? Oh, style like a, oh my gosh. She's the hearty guy. Last name's hearty. Oh, Tom. Tom hearty. I see with like that. Oh, I love that. You look at me, Bo. Oh, my God. That is a couple I could masturbate to. 100%. I would masturbate to you and Tom hearty or Charlie Hunna. That's why I see you. Can someone make that happen? I think they're both married. They probably are. And if they are, then, then, I don't, but I see that for you. And yes, I do want to see you find someone. Because I think you deserve that. And likewise, I think you deserve that too. So 100% an athlete for you. 100%. 100%. Yes, you need someone that's going to wake your ass up at 5 a.m. and be like, Bay and the quenching. I see that. So there's like, there's, and selfishly, there's someone on the clippers. Cool. Cool. Wait, oh, my God. I'm fucking butchering his name. Let me hold on. Hold on. Hold on. I'm going to pull up a picture. What is it? You won't be disappointed. Here you go. Look at. Oh, I know. You know him? No, I don't know him. If I did, I would be mad. I don't know him. If I did, I would be making phone calls right now. Okay. Well, get it together. And guess what? It's NLA, so you would have to pick up and leave. Yeah, he's very hot. I don't know about me with an athlete though. I do. I see it. I picture my heart being hurt a lot with that. But the right one. Okay. The right one. They're not all bad. Are your daughters close even with the age difference? Of course. Oh, my daughter Ocean loves Riley. Yeah. But you know what? I know how it's going to end. Riley's going to get to the age where she has a card. She's going to want to go off with her friends. And that's when I worry because you know right now, the reason I get her to go over to the other house is because Riley is there. I don't think that's going to happen. Riley takes pride. Yes, remember, Riley's like a little Jewish grandmother. She wants to take care. She looks forward to seeing Ocean and taking care of Ocean. And I don't ever sing that. They have a bond that is so beautiful, so beautiful. And just like London and Riley. So there was a stage where they wouldn't stop fighting. And I was like, I don't know how I'm going to get through this. They literally were just at each other's necks. And now I slowly see them connecting in different. Like Riley just has like a little new boyfriend. Boyfriend. Boyfriend. I can't even say it. The words literally cannot come out of my mouth. Is that her first boyfriend ever? Yes. You remember your first boyfriend? Yes. Me too. Third grade. I think my was like Taylor. That's so cute. I carried this little picture around. Oh, and so I, you know, it's funny. I asked Riley the other day. She goes, no, we're just dating. And I said, well, what does that mean dating? I said, you guys dating at that age. I said, do you guys hold hands and you guys walk each other to class? And then like hug and then each go, you know, because that's what we used to do. Yeah. And she's like, no. And I was like, okay, do you, do you kiss? I was setting her up for this one. I was like, oh, do you kiss? And she's like, ew, no mom. I go, okay, well, what does that mean? She goes, it just means that we're dating. And I was like, do you sit with them at lunch? And she's like, no. And I was like, okay. And then, you know what? I'm good. Then it is dating at that age. You guys are together. You don't look at each other or talk to each other. It's awkward when they pass. And by the way, they don't call each other boyfriend. She does now, but in the beginning, it's like, you ask, will you be my crush? Oh. That's what they, how old were you with your first boyfriend? I was probably like eight or ninth grade. Oh, okay. Yeah. That's like a real boyfriend. What did you lose your virginity? Do you remember? Like what? 37. You're such a damn lie. When really? No, no, no, no, no. I think I was 17. Me too. Really? Yeah. Oh my gosh. Have you ever done anal? No. Me neither. Oh my gosh. Now I see the similarities. They're all coming out. They're all there. Oh my god. Okay. Any idea who shall not be named feels about your friendship? He's, I don't think you love it. I don't think you love it. But I love it. You know what? He should be counting his blessings. You know what? Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no I feel that from you. Yeah, you guys, thank you so much for listening to another episode of an unlikely affair with Lala Kent and Amber Childers. We're going to catch you Thursday. Bye! You know we were talking about investing the other day. Yep, yep. Uh, yeah, six-day-am-alama. Run. Iceboth. Maggiolate. For a monitor's. Check markets. Diversify assets. Browse finance forums. Project yields. Yeah, well, I've just started with Wealthify. Their experts make the most of my money, so I can make the most of my time. Oh. 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