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How OpenClaw Creates 100k view X Articles

21 min
Feb 16, 20262 months ago
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Summary

The episode discusses how OpenClaw (an AI automation tool) is being used to create viral X/Twitter content averaging 100k views per post. The hosts explore the broader implications of AI automation for businesses, debating whether companies should focus on cost savings through AI or revenue growth, while examining the challenges of monetizing AI-generated content.

Insights
  • AI-generated content can achieve massive reach but monetizing that traffic remains challenging for B2B companies
  • Large enterprises should prioritize AI for revenue growth over cost savings, as saving millions is less impactful than growing top-line revenue
  • OpenClaw and similar AI automation tools are creating a new category of 'vibe coding' that could disrupt traditional SaaS spending
  • The fear and uncertainty around AI adoption is driving significant interest from enterprise decision-makers
  • AI automation tools work best when isolated from main systems and require human oversight rather than full autonomy
Trends
AI automation tools like OpenClaw are enabling non-technical users to build complex workflowsEnterprise executives are exploring AI to replace expensive SaaS tools like Salesforce and SlackContent creation is becoming increasingly automated while maintaining human editorial controlLarge corporations are cutting staff while investing in AI automation capabilitiesAI-generated content is driving higher engagement rates on social platformsEnterprise AI adoption is accelerating among nine-figure revenue companiesWhite-collar job displacement through AI automation is expected within 9-18 monthsVisual elements like diagrams in AI content significantly boost perceived credibilityReal-time AI dashboards are becoming standard for business operations monitoringAI tools are being used for lead generation and sales process automation
Companies
HubSpot
Podcast sponsor promoting their customer platform and AI tools called Breeze for business growth
OpenAI
Reportedly made acquisition offers to OpenClaw founder along with Meta
Meta
Made acquisition offers to OpenClaw and recently acquired Mattis, positioning for AI automation
Anthropic
Opposed the original 'Claude Bot' name that OpenClaw founder wanted to use
AT&T
Enterprise client attending webinars and live streams about AI automation strategies
1Password
Company representatives joining AI-focused webinars and live streams
Clearscope
Bernard from Clearscope discussed AI automation setup and its business implications
Salesforce
Enterprise CEO considering replacing it with custom AI solutions to save costs
Slack
Enterprise CEO planning to cut this tool in favor of custom AI-built alternatives
Andreessen Horowitz
VC firm with partner Anish Acharya investing in AI applications and discussing SaaS disruption
Apple
Mac Mini computers are sold out due to demand from people setting up OpenClaw systems
Microsoft
AI CEO made predictions about white-collar job displacement within 9-18 months
People
Neil Patel
Co-host discussing AI monetization challenges and enterprise AI adoption strategies
Eric Siu
Co-host demonstrating OpenClaw content creation and sharing AI automation experiences
Peter Steinberg
OpenClaw founder who appeared on Lex Fridman podcast and is reportedly in acquisition talks
Anish Acharya
Andreessen Horowitz partner investing in AI apps and discussing SaaS disruption trends
Harry Stebbings
20VC host who tweeted about SaaS disruption and enterprise spending on software vs AI
Sam Altman
OpenAI CEO who reportedly discussed naming rights with OpenClaw founder
Bernard
Clearscope executive who set up AI automation and discussed software industry disruption
Lex Fridman
Podcast host who interviewed OpenClaw founder Peter Steinberg about the platform
Quotes
"Most businesses only use 20% of their data. That's like reading a book with most of the pages torn out."
HubSpot AdOpening
"Why would you be pointing it at rebuilding payroll or ERP or CRM? You're going to take it and use it to extend your core advantage as a business."
Anish Acharya (via Harry Stebbings tweet)Mid-episode
"It's so over for software. What are you doing right now?"
Bernard from ClearscopeMid-episode
"If you have such power with these models and such resources, why the hell would you spend your time rebuilding these CRMs?"
Eric SiuMid-episode
"Why don't you try to grow your revenue 20, 30, 40% instead of focusing on saving a few million bucks?"
Neil PatelMid-episode
Full Transcript
2 Speakers
Speaker A

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0:00

Speaker B

Today.

2:01

Speaker A

Cutting your sales cycle in half sounds pretty impossible, but that's exactly what Sandler training did with HubSpot. They used Breeze, HubSpot's AI tools to tailor every customer interaction without losing their personal touch. And the results were pretty incredible. Click through. Rates jumped 25%, qualified leads quadrupled, and people spent three times longer on their landing pages. Go to HubSpot.com to see how Breeze can help your business grow. All right, so, Neil, you want to see something cool? I'm going to show you. I'M going to show you how. OpenClaw is literally writing me articles right now on X. And it's averaging about a hundred thousand views per post. You want to see it?

2:07

Speaker B

Let's do it.

2:44

Speaker A

Okay, here we go. So check this out.

2:45

Speaker B

Wait, but before you show me, I bet you none of them are marketing related if they're getting 100,000 views. I hope I'm wrong.

2:47

Speaker A

Well, this one's revenue related. OpenClaw for business setup that scales revenue. 85,000 views. Check this one out over here. So ordering your food with openclaw is cute, but making money with it is better. Okay, so in this one I'm going to talk about how my system works under the hood. If you want some Open Claw business use case example. The original post is here. So it just goes through and there's. I have these like diagrams because diagrams make it seem like it, you know, it's well researched and all this stuff, right? So look, this, this setup and all this stuff right here's a cron job, whatever. Right? But my point is, Neil, you look at this one. Look, 85,000 views. Okay, this one, 86,000 views. By the way, look at my little plush doll over here. This is me on the computer. My little plush doll, my lobster. This is you riding a lobster over here. 101,000 views. Look, I made some plush toys. Your daughter would like this.

2:54

Speaker B

You have an open car, agents, one shared brain. They stop being stupid.

3:38

Speaker A

Yeah, and then I run 30 open claw jobs a day. This is what actually makes them profitable. Because not a lot of people are talking about how they make money right now with this. So.

3:43

Speaker B

So this one.

3:52

Speaker A

68,000 views. I threw up yesterday. You know what's interesting, Neil? I did the original AI version yesterday where I just threw it up with the title. It shows and only got one like in the first hour. So I just changed the title and I republished it and it took off.

3:52

Speaker B

So this reminds me, I wasn't using open. How about you first finish on how you're using open cloud to do this and then I'll go into my experience.

4:05

Speaker A

So I'm using Open Claw to basically there's a content repurposer skill. So it knows how I write. Okay. So I just kind of dictate to it. It pulls from that skill and literally I just go to my Open claw because I work with it all the time and it knows what my goals are, it knows my working style and all that. I'm like, hey, what's the most interesting thing we've worked on in the last 24 hours. It'll give you a bunch of ideas. And I'm like, this one sounds good. Use the content repurposer for X for that. Boom. Right? And then that's basically it.

4:14

Speaker B

Yeah. No, this is really cool stuff. So this reminds me of the early days of chat GPT, you know, when people were talking about prompts, right?

4:42

Speaker A

Like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

4:52

Speaker B

I used to give them like marketing prompts and what would do well on content and doing keyword research and for SEO and all that kind of stuff. Got tons of views on X. The hard part, with content like that, that at least I've always faced, it's very tough for me to generate revenue from those pieces of content.

4:53

Speaker A

Yeah.

5:12

Speaker B

So I tend not to spend too much time on them. Like, I'm in Mexico City right now. So we had, we had, you know, as. As I mentioned to Eric in the past, we tend to hold our own events. And when I say our own events, it was a restaurant. They had a projector behind me, two on the side, depending on where people are sitting. It was upstairs rooftop area with like canopies coming down. So it was nice and not cold or anything like that. It was in the morning, everyone had food. And we invited a lot of corporations. Okay. Every single corporation there. I think maybe 90% of the corporations there, CMO VP levels for marketing, and that was actually almost a hundred percent. But 80 to 90% of the corporations, probably 90 plus percent were all publicly traded. All right. So when I look at like the questions they ask me, they'll ask me questions like, what's the biggest mistake we're making with AI and not thinking about yet? Or there's all this new technology and security issues and people are worried about software and employment and all this kind of. Cause some of these people are in teams. How should we structure our teams going forward? Or they'll ask questions. And this is where more of the focus is on. We're all using AI, and we have been for years. How do we generate more positive revenue or see efficiencies where we're actually increasing our profit, but majority of it is not really profit related. It's more so revenue related. Because if you can grow your top line when you're that large, saving a million or 2 million or 3 million or 4 million doesn't make a difference. When you're a corporation doing like 10 billion a year in revenue, people want you to grow your top line more than saving a few million bucks. I'm assuming you agree with that as well, especially in the public markets.

5:13

Speaker A

So here's what I'll say. So here's the thing with these articles. I looked at who joined the. The live streams and the recent webinars we've done. You have. You have AT&T, you know, somewhat legit company.

7:08

Speaker B

Right, Right.

7:20

Speaker A

And so you have. You have people. I'm looking at some other companies to 1Password. They're not as big, but they're a significant company. Right.

7:22

Speaker B

Like, they.

7:28

Speaker A

Yeah. So they're coming through to these because they don't know what to do and they're scared. There's a lot of fear with this right now. Right. And so I will say, like, that I was kind of like, when I wrote these same. I had the same kind of inkling that you had where it's like, it's probably not going to generate any revenue. But I'm looking at the people coming through. I'm looking at the people responding. I'm looking at the people adding me, especially on Twitter, because you can see who's adding you. Right. I'm like, oh, it's like legit people adding. And so I'm like, I'm just gonna keep doing this because, one, I enjoy what I'm doing right now. And plus, I can easily tie it in with marketing and business. The thing. Neil, I'm getting texts every single day right now. My friend's like, dude, I just want to. I went to the Apple Store to try to buy a Mac Mini. They're sold out right now because everyone's doing it for openclaw, Right? And everyone's asked, how do I set this up? I talked to Bernard from Clearscope a couple hours ago. Um, and he's like, dude, I. I get what you mean now. I got it set up Sunday. He showed me all the crap he was building. He's like, it's over, man. It's o. Like, it's so over. He's like, it's so over for software. It's so over. Like, what are you doing right now? So everyone's, like, trying to trade notes. It's almost like, I don't know, when's the last time something really cool came out? Like ChatGPT? I guess so. So this is, like, one of those moments.

7:29

Speaker B

Yeah. But. Okay, so you got AT and T to sign up. Are these C level or VP levels from these organizations? Yeah, all of them.

8:32

Speaker A

Yeah.

8:41

Speaker B

No, there's no way.

8:42

Speaker A

I'm not gonna say all of them. I'm not saying all of them. I'm saying you have. You. They're all, they're either senior director or above. That's what I'll say.

8:44

Speaker B

Got it. Okay. But most of corporations, see, because we've tested content like this from even some of our employee accounts, we find that the type of articles that you're producing, they do generate traffic. It tends to be more, not mid level, more junior level than anything else in quantity.

8:51

Speaker A

Yeah, so that's a good point. So what Neil's bringing up, and I don't know if you're referring to this, but the thing you, you, you bring up here is especially my YouTube. Now my YouTube's finally in good graces because I'm covering a trending topic, right? Like, I'm like, God, it took forever to struggle out of this. But I don't really cover how to. It bothers a lot of people. They're like, dude, show us how to do it. Show us. I'm like, I ain't gonna show you how to do it. You know why? Because it does drive leads. You get the tire kickers as a DIY people. Dude, we used to do that all the time. Neil used to create how to. I used to. And, and we thought we're doing like all this good for the world. And I went to Perplexity. I was like, hey, show me the research behind this. You know, if you make a bunch of how to content versus just showing people like what you're doing right now. And then Perplexity is like, yeah, it's been proven that the how to stuff doesn't generate revenue. If you show like, like, Neil does this a lot like charts or like what you're doing, which is what I'm doing right now, that gets people interested. And so I will say I was initially skeptical, Neil, but it is, it's moving in the right direction for us at least.

9:07

Speaker B

So I want to cover something that you just mentioned and, or actually before I cover that, going back to the AI topic really quickly. When we meet with most corporations, they're trying to figure out how to generate more revenue through AI. And majority of it, at least in marketing, is not related to using the tools it's being mentioned by the LLMs. That's the biggest use case by far that they're all looking for. Because when they look at their data, it's proven to drive revenue. Maybe it's small and maybe it's not as big enough, or maybe their competitors are doing better for it. But that's the biggest thing we see that large corporations want. The other stuff is a little bit of a nuance and that goes into what you were just saying about like building it. I know you mentioned you were texting someone. So I was at an event a few days ago in Texas. I won't mention the company name. $4 billion a year in revenue plus that's good size revenue company publicly traded. I don't know what their profit numbers are. I haven't looked them up, but they are public. And the CEO, he's very tech enabled. They have a lot of devs. He's like, I don't want to end up paying a million, $2 million for Salesforce anymore. I'm just going to code it. And I'm like, there's going to be a lot of bugs. He's like, no, we'll fix it. It's fine. He's like, I don't want to pay for slack anymore. I'm just going to end up cutting it off. So he's easily breaking down maybe like 5, $10 million of money that he'll save. Now, of course there's going to be some server costs and employment costs. So maybe the 5, 10 million turns to 4 to 8 million dollars in savings, whatever the number is. And I'm looking at him and I'm just having a discussion with him. And I'm not saying AI can or can't do this. If you put enough resources, you definitely can figure out how to end up trying to build your own Salesforce. But I'm like, this is a terrible use of time. If you're a CEO of a company that's publicly traded doing billions and billions of dollars in revenue a year, why are you focused on saving less than $10 million when you should be figuring out how to grow from 4 billion in revenue to 5 or 6 billion in revenue? And for me, if I was a shareholder, I would be really pissed. I'm like, this is the wrong thing that you're focusing on.

10:03

Speaker A

Yes.

12:14

Speaker B

Is Salesforce expensive at a million dollars? But percentage of revenue is. That is a really small amount of money that they're spending on Salesforce.

12:14

Speaker A

Yeah. So get this. So you'll like this. And by the way, my, my title for this live stream on Twitter I'm looking at right now, it says how open call levels up your marketing. So we have to talk about open call the whole time. But, but anyway, so this guy, Anish Achara, is that, that's one of your people, right? Anish Achara Acharya. I think he's Indian. Yeah. So he's a partner at Andreessen Horowitz he's investing in AI apps at Andreessen. Horati's Anish Achara, I think so. Harry Stebbings from 20VC tweets this. So is SaaS dead? Will we vibe code everything? If you look at SaaS spend today, it's 8 to 12% of enterprise spend. Okay? Even if you vibe coded your ERP and your payroll with all of the kind of risks and dangers that entails, you're going to save 8 to 12%. You have this innovation bazooka with these models. Why would you be. Why would you point it at rebuilding payroll or ERP or CRM? You're going to take it and use it to extend your core advantage as a business, or you're going to take in and optimize the other 90% that you're not spending on software today. So the point is like, I think that's the best point over here. If you have such power with these models and such resources, why the hell would you spend your time rebuilding these CRMs or these ERPs or these payroll providers? That's the real point.

12:22

Speaker B

Dude, I'm with you. And I look at some of these people who are trying to make this play, and I just think it's the silliest play. I'm like, why don't you try to grow your revenue 20, 30, 40%? And by the way, that company, while we were, you know, I'm looking up their stock, okay? And their profit is in the eight figures. It's not even high eight figures. So when I say eight figures, like sub 50 million on, call it four plus billion in revenue. There you go. I pull up the wrong stock.

13:36

Speaker A

All right?

14:14

Speaker B

Now I got the right one.

14:15

Speaker A

So.

14:16

Speaker B

Their profit is small margin.

14:19

Speaker A

Okay?

14:21

Speaker B

So it's not much. And their revenue growth is 6% a year, sometimes negative. On a good year, it was like 20% during the COVID booms. But like let's call it 5, 6% a year that they're growing at. If I look at it quarterly right now, it's sub 10% is definitely closer to 5ish percent. Why the heck would you focus on saving a few million bucks instead of solving the bigger problem, which is how do you grow your top line?

14:22

Speaker A

Yeah. By the way, you want to. So I want to come back to the openclaw thing for a little bit because I've titled this this way. So I listened to Lex Friedman talk to the founder of OpenClaw today. I think his name is Peter Steinberg or Steinberger. So get this. So openclaw you know, it's been taking off. Right now it's trending really well on Google Trends. Um, so apparently I think OpenAI and Meta have made offers to him and that's why I think he's in the SF area right now. Um, but isn't it crazy? Like, literally this thing came out from nowhere and then boom, Right? Like, it's, it's. I think he talked to Sam Altman about, hey, is it okay if I have open Claude? Because Anthropic wasn't okay with the Claude name. Right. Because it was called Claude Bot before. So I, I think, you know, it looks like he's probably going to sell it and then who knows? Like, I do think it'd be cool if Meta bought it because they have open source models and they just bought Mattis and so I could really see Meta buying it. Yeah.

14:48

Speaker B

Just as a quick disclaimer, do not run it on your main PC or Mac or whatever you use for all your other stuff.

15:35

Speaker A

Let's talk about that real quick. Let's talk about that real quick. Yeah, so I literally have a Mac Mini here and it's ran. It has its own Apple, it has its own Apple ID, its own Gmail, it has its own 1Password vault. It's really secure and I don't let it post autonomously. So if we want to talk about using Open Call to grow your marketing, earlier I showed you, yes, you can get, you can get these articles done. Like, you know, X articles is giving me more reach right now. But I, I don't let it yolo, meaning I don't let it just post whatever it wants to post. Like, it gives me a lot of repurposing ideas, by the way. Neil, it's connected to my granola, it's connected to all of my, it's ingests all of our content. It keeps coming up with repurposing angles and then it writes it natively for other channels. So I can easily hand that over to a social media manager, plug it into Slack if I wanted to. Right now I just have it in an isolated telegram where I'm just messing with it. I think I spent 10 days on it and I think if I, if I get it like 30 days, 60 days or so, I think it's just cranking, right? I think it's just really, it's really next level. And I did a live stream this morning. I was like, hey guys, I pulled up the screen. Check, check it out, check this out. Nielsen. So everyone's like, let me show you my screen over here. So. So this is my open claw coded, my vibe coded dashboard over here. So, Neil, can you see this? Yeah. Okay. So I'm like, okay, guys, I got this mission control over here. It shows me the recurring tasks that are happening every day. Here's the team over here. Here's the tasks that are queued. Here's the skills that we have. Here's what's happening with Mark marketing. Here's the things to review. Here's a live feed. Everyone's like, oh, my God. Oh, my God. Like, you know, is this available? Where can I get this? Where can I get this? I was like, guys, you can just.

15:45

Speaker B

Do it in Trello.

17:16

Speaker A

You know what I did, Neil? I took a screenshot of someone else's mission control. I. I just dragged it into my open claw. I was like, okay, based on all my goals and based on everything I want to do, what. Let's make this for my sake, right? So, guys, you can code this up in your sleep, right? And this, by the way, this dashboard is not a fake dashboard. This is a real dashboard. This is live in production. I get this every single morning. And I can see what the heck is going on. Because when you can vibe code anything you want, you start to forget, right? And that's really important.

17:18

Speaker B

So, yeah, the big thing that I'm seeing is people are using a lot of this stuff. And the hardest part is figuring out how to generate more revenue and profit from it, because more output and more action doesn't necessarily gain more profit. The thing I've been telling companies is it's in its very early days, in infancy. I think we'll get a much better understanding of how to use a lot of this technology to impact our bottom line within 12 months to 24 months. I know that sounds like a long time, but it really isn't that long.

17:42

Speaker A

I'll bet you it's a lot faster than that.

18:13

Speaker B

What size company are you talking about? I mean, startups, sure, right. But I'm talking about, like, established organizations.

18:15

Speaker A

It's hard for established organizations. What do you mean by established organizations?

18:24

Speaker B

Minimum 9 figures in revenue a year, I think.

18:27

Speaker A

Okay, so. Well, there's a wide range, right? Nine figures to, like, 10 figures, 11 figures. Like, what, do we just want to focus on nine figures? No, no.

18:31

Speaker B

Nine figures plus, like, established organizations doing at least $100 million in revenue a year. And they're using this specifically for marketing. I'm not talking about other departments. Right, yeah, for marketing. It's not that you can't get more Action and output. It's hard to necessarily know which activities is going to directly impact your bottom line because a lot of the stuff that it works on, like things like content creation or if you want to end up vibe coding, some stuff, that doesn't necessarily mean you're going to impact or generate more revenue.

18:39

Speaker A

So this thing's booking meetings for us right now.

19:10

Speaker B

Yeah, but how many of those book meetings are closing?

19:12

Speaker A

It just started doing it. So here's the thing, right? It's whether it's the idea I got from you for manufacturing deals or reviving or like looking at stalled deals, it's. It's moving and it's coming up with different angles, right? And these angles are pretty good. So it's, it's actually like we haven't like, it's giving like a deal a day right now because I'm still testing a bunch of different things at once. But once I hand it off and the sales team wants to jack it up to a lot more, it'll do that. But it's working in small spurts right now. So my take on this is if we're talking nine figure companies, I'd say, you know, six months out max, right? Because here's the thing. We have, we have one mutual friend and then I have actually another friend. They're both at nine figures, right? One of our mutual friends sent me a text the other day. I'm cutting 600 people. And then. And another friend actually I played tennis with on Saturday, he's like, oh, I cut half my staff, right? And so that's not all related to openclaw. I don't want to make it seem like that, but I just think like I looked at the Microsoft AI CEO recently. He's like, dude, like, you look at all these white collar jobs. Like, I think you saw this too in the next. I think he said, what, 912 months or something like that, or 18 months max. Like all that. All these jobs are done, right? And so like when I talked to Bernard today, actually, I'll leave this a little more in confidence, but we're just like, dude, like what happens to most people, right? All right, see you guys. Goodbye.

19:15