Spittin’ Chiclets Episode 646: Featuring Murls, Army & Bob Stauffer

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Ryan Whitney's got a pink Whitney out there now. The deep handle, the song man. Kate is a full time member. Marley just gotten a assist from Chris Bates. Whoa, we're buzzing right now. What is up folks? Welcome to episode 646 of the spit and chiclet pinkies up podcast. Let's go get them up Mer. Let's get them up. If anyone wants them up, right? Oh, you were getting the bottle right there. Mer's ready. He's going to take a victory lap. Wild fans, you don't deserve what you're about to hear from many. We got plenty to catch up on. The abs are moving on. What a series we got in Montreal Buffalo. I got some takes in that one. I know you guys do as well. Vegas looking to close it out tonight and the Oilers. The Toronto Oilers. The Toronto Oil Kings. Yeah, I would say Toronto and Edmonton teams that are discussed quite often on this show are not exactly things aren't exactly going smooth in either spot, but we'll get to running a tighter operation than them. What do you mean? Oh, the Savannah bananas. It's like, like, Oh my God, boys, holy shit. But we got way bigger stuff to get to. True. Merles is here. I think we're going to get a little arm dog mix in here. He's at the Ryan Malone golf tournament right now. Amazing foundation and event he's got going on right now in Pittsburgh. So he's going to check in and I think we got to start. We got to start boys in Colorado. I mean, it's over five games, five games and I wanted seven. I hope for seven. I pictured seven. I think the abs are just, they're too good. They're too dominant. They're too fast. They're too quick. They have McKinnon and we'll get into some takes that wild fans seem to be furious about. They want biz dead, which really cracks me up. And for anyone who doesn't know a clip went, I'd say a little viral of this celebrating as Colorado scoring an overtime. I think he just wanted to go home. Yeah, that's where it was. Yeah. He didn't want he didn't want a late night and he wanted to get again a weekend off of work, but wild fans thought that he was celebrating Colorado moving on. I had Hartman. I had Hartman score in the OT winner. Now, like, like I said, so if that series would have gone seven games, I would have had to stick around for Friday, Saturday in Atlanta. I've been here for basically a month, bunkered down in a hotel room. So I was like, okay, well, I'd rather just have the weekend off recharge and get ready to travel for the whatever conference finals we end up doing on the road with TNT. And I think a lot of fans, like no matter who or what you say on the broadcast, they automatically think you're rooting against their team. I would have totally been okay seeing seven games in the series, but you can't hold a three, nothing lead. You don't deserve to get seven games and according to Merle's, you're a fraud squad. So tough scene there. But they probably shouldn't have posted that clip because I guess it does show a little bit of bias, but I was just happy the series was over and I get to go home. So my apologies to all the wild fans. I, as I said, going into the series boys, if Eric Sinek and Boldy would have been a lineup, I actually would have picked many to win that series in seven games. Brody, sorry. Or who did I say? Boldy. Boldy. Or Boldy. I meant Brody in my apologies. Thanks for the correction. But I just, yeah, I think that those two pieces would have made such a massive difference based on the goals I was seeing based on the breakdowns. And it's unfortunate because I actually thought that like when Walsh said came back in that I thought he was going to be kicking and they would still be a problem. But as you guys said, Colorado at the depth, like the depth in the last two games really showed up Parker Kelly. I mean, Drury, who was a throw in on the nature's trade, like he was huge, great fourth line center and then, and then fucking Kulak. Yeah, this is Kulak loved more five on five ice than Kail McCarron that series boys in five games. So to the Edmonton Oilers, you guys are fucking, you guys are stupid. Oh, yeah, we'll get into them later. So it's funny because I, I said a tweet out after just kind of like, oh, wild fans and nobody, gets their decks kicked in and their hearts ripped out more than Minnesota sports fans. Like I'm telling you, it doesn't matter. We got the Vikings, the Timberwolves, the twins, the wild, it's the lengths are nasty. It's what the links are nasty. That's awesome. Are there scores on ESPN.com? I don't know. I believe their PWHL team won the championship the last two years, didn't they? There we go. You got something, mini building building, but the message I said was it just, you know, it sucks. You lose your number one center. Catherine Capri soft next season. What Catherine Capri soft next season so he can win something. He's taken to meet and murals in classic murals fashions like yep, making 18 million next year. It was like murals was ready. Now I, what I said was these poor wild fans, you lose your number one center. You lose an incredible top four defensive defenseman. Then I got, well, all of a sudden I got Dallas Stars fans coming at me and I respect them. They're like, well, we didn't have our number one center and we had one of our best defenseman battle and injury. And then abs fans are coming at me. Well, we have our number one defenseman injured and, and I guess that is good points. Like everyone battles injuries, but for Minnesota, it just was such a different feeling. I mean, the way Eric Sinek got hurt in the final game against Dallas and comes back. I'm like, Oh, I remember, I think we were streaming that game or we were at least chatting all of us. And I was like, thank God he came back because they got him for the Y of the next one. Pretty impressive that he was able to come back and play in that game six because obviously he was mangled. Now Brodeen, I don't really know. I'm sure we'll find out today or tomorrow what the injuries were, but Murr, would you say they're not frauds? Like, are you going to continue that they're frauds? Well, I'm happy to see that you guys are understanding how crazy these wild fans are. Yes. But let me give you a little definition of consumer fraud, deceiving customers through false claims, such as selling a defective product as high quality. High quality is not Eric King's Eck is not a high quality number one centerman. Can we agree on that? High quality number two. Yes. You know, so they don't have a number one centerman. And then second of all, let me ask you. Okay, so let me ask you this. So would you say that he's better or same as like a Dylan Larkin? Like, where do you where do you put him? Yeah, I put him in there. So you're saying that second line Stanley Cup winning team centerman is where I put him there. So every statement you give we're able to maybe question. That's all I'm going to do. All right. Next up is when you're trying to rely on two players, two defensemen to play the entire game for you. It just it doesn't build team camaraderie. Number one, when you're relying on two guys that heavily, and then you just can't last that long in a playoff series, playing guys 30 minutes and expecting them to do everything. So for context to before game five was played, Quinn Hughes was averaging 29 57 throughout the series. And I believe that Brock Faber was averaging about just a minute below that. First and second in the in the second round, like far and above as far as average ice time lugged. And it was 10 minutes more than the third defenseman on the Minnesota wild. So counterpoint, counterpoint, pronger, need a Meyer, Anaheim, ducks. So the size of those two compared to the size of the two we're talking about, I would say need a Meyer and Faber are the same. And then you're just saying you're missing your pronger. Okay. I'm just gonna look for counterpoints. Next next one up. And I'm telling you, I talk about the team and the in the chemistry and how you build a team. And we've been through with Sydney Crosby. If I make less than everybody's got to make less. If you want to win, Matthew Kachuk went down to Florida did the same thing. If you want to win, Barco, if you want to make less, everybody's got to make less during the season. Capri Soft goes and signs for $17 million. Nobody needs to be making $17 million. And it just, it just, it doesn't feel right in a team. If some guys making 750, I got this guy making 17 million. And then it's for he's fraudulent for $17 million. Even though we've never seen someone make that much. One shot in game four, zero shots in game five, puck on his stick to win the game and over time, passes it off. That is not a $17 million player. Wow. I mean, okay. So I broke, I did a breakdown during one of the intermissions. Like, I, I thought he played pretty well. Like he did a lot of good things. Like he was boxing out defensively. Like he made that play along the wall, got an assist on the first goal. I believe led the team in points and playoffs. Like, what did he finish with as far as points? Probably like 13, 14 points. So it's not like he was like invisible. I do agree that 17 is a, is a very high number. It's, it's like almost like you're saying the precedent was set. So it kind of make things awkward. Like for the playoff run where it's like, now you're really kicked in the deck because it kicks in next year. I will say 15 points in 11 games. Correct me, Mer. Is it not even personal to Caprice off? It's like nobody should be making 17 million. No, yeah, nobody. Okay. He got Sidney Crosby making 8.7 million. He's the perfect hockey player. That is the argument that's, McDavid even just took less and he's the most skilled hockey player. So it just ruins the balance of a team. It's all about a team. You hear all these quotes coming out from the Avalanche. They got 16 different guys that scored goals. It's all about team stats. Like it just, it doesn't create a team atmosphere. Well, one guy's making 17 million and then you have two guys playing 35 minutes basically every night. It's got to be a team, but you're going to pay guys extra to go to mini. No. I think mini's a hell of a place to play hockey. Yeah. Great. Awesome. GM to play for and cost the living there. 70 million. You can buy up every leering center in the state. Here's the thing is that commercial real estate play you could have with 17 million. Jesus Christ. If he just took 14 and a half, it's like, Oh my God. You know, you got, what is it? Three and a half or two and a half million more for a player. So I get that. I just look at, I think it was, I think they were a hell of like a team when you look at there. And by the way, we're talking wild first because of the storyline and the expectations and what went on this year. We're going to pump Colorado, but in terms of the wild, like they did seem very cohesive. They had the Lino brothers. They loved each other. They loved each other. And it was just, everyone hits injuries. But for me, I'm looking at it's like, that is a different series with those two guys playing. Now, is that a stupid argument? Because like every single team's going through this, maybe, but I'm not looking at the wild as like a fraudulent team. I don't know. Maybe I'm just a little, a Billy Garan Homer. I think they can fix it. It's fixable. Like they have the pieces. Obviously if they can keep Quinn Hughes, he is a complete stud, favor complete stud Capri soft. Like I don't know what they're going to do with zoo. But if you can get a center, it may be two, another D man, maybe a couple guys that can move a little better. And I love Bogosian and middle, what is this? Middle, middle 10. Like I love those guys, but you might have to get a little bit faster and a little bit younger to kind of go on these runs. But I think it's right there. And especially with Billy G at the helm, he's a guy that can get guys to come there. He can go out and make trades. So I think it's a successful year for many. I don't think they were going to win it this year. I knew obviously beating Dallas was big, but Dallas was beat up. And you know, it's just one of those years you're playing Colorado who's such a wagon right now. No, like no one was going to beat them. Okay. Bids. Let me ask you this then. The wild fans, I've seen a couple people pretty upset that Billy G didn't pay for what it was going to cost to get Troche over. And I think the ask was outrageous from Chris Drury. What do you think in terms of like, I can't pay that right? Do you know what I mean? Like that's a tough one. I think the last thing I would be doing right now is criticizing anything Billy G did because he even he made them so murals like you would say that he didn't make them a contender because I think if that that line, if that lineups healthy, I think they could could have brought abs the distance. Like I don't want to, it sucks a single guy out, but like Middleton playing top four D minutes. He's a number six on a Stanley Cup winning team. Like because of the Brodean injury, like that was that was a very forgettable series for him. I felt bad for him on the triangle and time goal, the winning goal, like around the net, like he could he could he just takes the corner around the net. He's turning like an 18 wheeler like I would be too. I mean, fuck, you know, I would know. I think Billy did everything he can do. Like, I mean, the Faleeno brothers were the best line McCarron. That was their best players, but there's no first line centermen out there. So like, what else was he going to do? But that's why they they weren't set up to win. You got to have the first line center. Got to have the second line. It's like, look at everybody that keeps winning Florida, Vegas, Edmonton has two first line centers. They still can't win Carolina. So that's that's where it's going to be tough moving forward forward with Capri soft making what he makes. It's like, what type of first if like, let's say Matthews, let's just throw out that name. If you are able to afford him and throw him in the mix at making 13 and a half for the next two years and slide him in there with Erickson, Eck playing the two slot that is a that is a Stanley Cup contending team. That's a top four team league with that back in and having two great goalies. And I think that they're both locked in for pretty good numbers. So that was a but going back to like Billy G and maybe not doing that at the deadline, maybe wasn't this this year wasn't the time to an overpaying for that tro for Trocheck now. He's probably looking fuck Colorado is this big of a wagon right now. Like why would I leverage the future that bad? I don't know because because the argument would be and the main storyline to me is not Capri soft deal. It's like, can you get Quinn Hughes signed? And if you can't and he leaves like they could they could be in one like you watch that guy. I mean, he was he was the best player. Yeah, bold. He's incredible and Walsh that had moments and I love Faber, but you take Quinn Hughes off that team. If he decides not to sign there like they're in one. So they have 13 and a half million come this off season to spend who they must have to lock in a few more guys. But we can do you have them? Do you have the guys who they have to resign? I do not have that probably Zuccarello is one of them, right? Yeah, you got to resign. Teres Sanico, Folino, Zuccarello, McCarron, Johansson, and you mean Nick Folino is Marcus is locked in at a good a pretty reasonable deal. That's a lot of guys. How about a guy? Folino though, two goals, 38 years old. I mean, let's get into the game five. And obviously we streamed game four. It's like feels like two weeks ago. Boys, they came out. I was like, I actually texted you guys. I'm like, this team deserves a lot of credit. Like the balls they're shown in this game. I also mentioned, and Keith, I think you said Landis Gog might have said winning game five at home up three one. That's it's it's so hard to do. It feels like like, you know, there's all the pressure. You want to end it. You're at home. Don't want to fly back to to many or whatever other city it is. And they're down three nothing Minnesota, the perfect period. I mean, the pass by Boldy Johansson, he makes 900. What a deal. That guy Marcus Johansson. So then they keep coming. They keep coming and Folino and they stop playing hockey. How many times have they went LA Kings on us? Why is it? Is it? I don't think it's like coaching where the coaches are like, sit back. It's like a mentality of, all right, we have enough goals when I think you're playing something like Colorado, you got to be like, we need five murals. You said it on the chat. You're like, if they don't get another one, this thing's done. And I was like, what? Yeah, I guess it. I mean, you end up being right. Yeah. I know my abs boys. And what happened was I was actually at my nephew's birthday party last night for the first period. So I'm a loser. I didn't wear my jersey over there. So I watched I watched the first period I come back over here. I like you biz with the goat head, I threw the jersey on and I actually poured a little glass of rouge, you know, the abs color, the color, put the jersey on glass of rouge, boom, boom, boom, tie game. Have they called you and thank you yet? I'm still waiting for my watch from number 29 for giving them a shirt. Oh man. I mean, you go back to that, though, the play that the first shift of the game, boldy that when he goes to the backhand and he banks it off the ball to himself, Nelson hook, line and sinker and that backhand pass to Joe Hansen who was covering for Quinn Hughes after they scored that one. And then I was like, oh, okay, I make they're coming out like game three right now. This is going back to many. And then all of a sudden they get the fucking the, the grinders chipping in offensively with Nick Felino having two tucks. I'm like, okay, we're for sure going back. But when did they get that first goal? It was it was at Parker Kelly who tipped it with the fruit ninja slice. Yeah. It was like nine minutes left in the second around. So let's talk about Kulak and Edzo pointed this out on the broadcast. There's a bit of a doggy pile along the wall. So if you're, if you're, if you're, let's say, let's say you're going north, south angle and you're behind Minnesota's net, your bottom right corner, there's like three guys from each team digging away, digging away. And you could even see Edzo points it out. The ref kind of gets closer to the pile and you know how they're like, keep it moving, keep it moving. So instead of blowing it, eventually it comes loose. And as that was happening, Kulak starts backing up and he gets kicked to him. It opens up that lane D2D and then they send a sifter in and going back to that. And the second goal, those are, those are world class tips. Who had the second one was a jury? Yeah. Did he tip that or did it hit his, hit his leg? I thought, I thought he tipped it like with his stick, like basically between his legs tipped it like as big shlong was hanging down like Barry during COVID. And mind you, like Lekinon's not playing either. We haven't mentioned that. So I think the, the abs fans are like, shut up about injuries. Shut your mouth, Whitney. You dumb big ear fuck. We got plenty of injuries. One of our best playoff players, Lekinon isn't playing and Macar shoulders hanging by a thread. He still played 25 minutes in that game. Now, he's dealing with a couple of things. I think with, well, I, I was, well, we talked about when when he was rubbing the stuff on his left hip, but I think it is mainly the right shoulder. Okay. That's what he missed time with after the hit from, was it Klepka on, what's the guy's name on Calgary? Oh, the dinosaur? Yeah. He hit him. He got the right shoulder. He missed a little time. Obviously that looked very innocent, innocent with Zuccarello right to the locker room. So he's battling something, but let's get into the, the, the third goal. The, the still images that people are posting of the open net McKinnon missed in the Olympics. And then the, where Walsh that is on this goal is very funny. I got, yeah, Middleton, I don't know what he's doing. I, I, Biz, you already said it. I, you know, you don't want to carve a guy. He's kind of cover an air, maybe give a little pressure, but at the same time, like Walsh that's, he's sitting back in his net and then, and then I think even he said, maybe I went down a little early. I don't think that goal can go in. I, I don't think that that goal, like a great shot right by his right ear, but challenge, you got to challenge the shooter. I don't know shit about goal-tending, but am I crazy? No, especially when Middleton's taking away pass, like he's low. I, some teams run things differently. Like I remember Mike Smith would be like, just take away the far pass. I got anything short side. So maybe that's how they play. But if the, if the defenseman's taken away that passing lane, he's got to be standing up looking at him at least. Like a wrist shot. And I know it's Nate, and he's got great deception. He's stick handling and then just like gets it there and puts it in a tiny area. But I think the goal, he's got to be out and challenging that shot. If you get beat backdoor by a pass, then you almost got to blame the demon on that. I think that that is like a, a microcosm of what we saw in the last two periods. You see Walsh that battling and playing in his own end and having to be in a squat position the entire time. And it's six on five. And all of a sudden you have to go post to post. It gets put weak side to McKinnon. And you're, when he gets it, I get why Middleton holds there, but that strong side forward drops down and takes away that pass. So like you said, with, he's covering air. If he goes in pressures, McKinnon's got to move and or get rid of that thing right away. He doesn't. So McKinnon's able to wait, wait, wait. Sometimes when the goalie comes over and his momentum's there, you're kind of just like waiting, waiting, and then eventually you finally drop because you got no energy left because you've been in a squat position the last two periods, stopping pucks because the ice been tilted. So it's just a microcosm of everything that happened as far as sitting back and basically playing LA Kings hockey for two periods. That's what they did. It also shows like the skill set of Nate because as a D-man, you see him like baiting you in almost. You're like, if I go out to him, he's going to put me in the spin cycle and beat me to the net. Or if I don't, so he's like, just with how good he is as a defenseman, you're thinking like this guy can do whatever he wants. And then, and then at the end of the day, he's in no man's land covering it. But the way his stick was down, it's like, he's saucing it over that anyways. Yeah. I think that when the Minnesota fan leaked that video of him doing the pool, it was inevitable that that moment was going to happen. The Minnesota Wild made their own bed with their PI. Same one who was with that Diana Rossini following them around was the guy who was in the hotel in Minnesota filming. Yeah. Same one. That's what I'm hearing at least from TMZ. I don't dig though. I don't dig the wild or the first team in NHL. This is an optostats first team in NHL history to have a three plus goal lead at the first intermission of a playoff game, but then have fewer than 10 shots on goal the rest of the way and end up losing. So yeah, seven shots in the second, four in the third, zero and overtime. So McKinnon scores. And I'm like, they may win this thing in regulation. Like it was, it was so dominant. I'm like, all right, well, here we go. They would they have a minute and a half left? And then they get out of the third period. I'm like, okay, go regroup, get your legs back. And what happens first shift of overtime? You got Scott. I said almost said Scott McCarran, the PJ senior tour golfer. Michael McHarran. He looked like that with the backswing. Buddy. Oh, I felt, I mean, like, I think you just got to stop that with your back end. This is happening so quick. I would have whiffed and I'd probably fallen over, but I'm like, oh my god. And at this point, he's centering boldly. Like, so it's like, that's part of the depth and the injuries. And you're like, Oh my god, the guy had the game on his stick. He whiffs. And then after that, it was all Colorado. I was like, Oh my god, they have nothing again. Like it's not like intermission helped him. I thought that first shift and that chance they're going to see, all right, Minnie's back. Nope. And I've never been watching an overtime more and been like, Oh, this thing's done. Now a lot of times that happens in OT and then the other team gets a dirty one and like the team dominating loses that one. It was just, it was over. And Mer, you brought up the Caprice off play. I, you hated the pass that much. Oh, I hated the pass. Yeah. You could see that it was getting taken away and you're the $17 million guy. Come in and rip it. But it's, it's, I think, uh, Manson made such a good play. He was back checking and a lot of guys like the demon will just stay closer to the shooter, but Manson was pointing at Kulak to take the far side and he did. And Manson was able to at least get close enough to him to force him to make that pass or shoot it. And he made the pass and Kulak was already over. So I think Manson made the play of the game there telling, he's coming back yelling pointing, go wide, go wide. And he did. And it was a great heads up play by him. I sent it to the video to the, to the group chat and I agree with army. That's a, that's a dry saddle swipe. You just swipe at that one. You know what I'm saying? McCarons, McCarons, McCarons, like the first chance over from boldly. I don't even think you need to stop that thing. I think dry side saying it's a dry style swipe makes it sound like he's like one of what four guys that can do it. What? Just swipe, just fucking go like that. He just say no hide back swing. But he fucking, he brought it back like a slap shot. And then he told picked just literally just like, just boom to swipe it through like where it was. You know, you don't need a big backswing like two feet and then just swipe, swipe away like a bubble hockey stick going back to the winner. I mean, like you said, Yans between the communication of Manson and Kulak and Kulak getting a stick on that. And then it goes back to the depth guys. I think it was Parker Kelly who ends up fucking putting his head up. He knew it's nature's must have came off the bench. You don't know. Did you see what happened? He must have just nature's realized there was only four abs on the ice not called up just hopped on the ice. Crazy. He was just like, Oh my God, we only have four and just went. Which is nice. A bednar never tapped him. No, no, there was a total miscommunication and nature's realized. I was just like four and just hopped. He thought Caprice off was going to put it back in the net and didn't want to eat the minus. And then he saw Kulak got and he's like, I'm fucking I'm going now, bitches. And but for Parker Kelly to just send that and send them and then Middleton, he's probably like, my God, I got to deal with this guy. You last guy. Last guy. I got a fresh nature's and he's going to turn the corner on a dime and I got to go 18 wheeler status and he finds Kulak backdoor and shout out to fucking Drury on that one too, buddy. Middle lane drive pushes that D right off of the net and that it part of the seas. And he puts it in the open net. Unbelievable sequence. I like how nature's didn't like you. I feel like nowadays guys turn up with that, especially like at like the top of the circle where nature's just kept going around the net because they knew he had the win a bag. Chasing them. So it's like, he just kept, he kept going. But if you turn up there, you give the back checkers time to get back and then you're making a play. He goes around the net and then it's just chaos and he finds this guy and it was great shot too. Great goal. Here's a stat for you. Nathan McKinnon has scored a goal in 46.2% of his career playoff games, 48 goals and 104 games played tie with Craig Simpson, 31 goals and 67 games played, which is at 46% for the third highest rate in NHL history behind Mario Lemieux and Mike Bossy. How many guys shoot that puck that nature's like dished over to Kulak too? So, so I think that it baubles off this stick ever so slightly and that forces him not to shoot it. If you go watch it, when he rounds the net, it looks like he's about to make a play on his forehand and he loses control just a little bit. And I think by that time, then Kulak comes in sight and he finds them. I might be crazy and just seeing shit. We're not able to replay the goals on here until Gary Batman gives us permission, which that's why I'm wearing the NHL bucket for. See if we can get them on our good side. I'm going to watch it one more time and see see if that's true. What about, we got to talk about the goalie change. Good move by Bednurts. It sparked the whole thing. Got the wedgie chance at the end too. Wedgie chance at the end of the game. So you know who they want. Kind of felt bad for Blackwood a little bit. I mean, they're moving on and the way things are going, the current NHL, we probably see him again. He played incredible in game four. Like he helped. Like game four was other than the OT, that was the closest game, right? Well, it was five, two and two empty netters, but yeah, two minutes left. The one that he kicked out with the left pad when it was coming back to the crease. There was a lot of plays in around the post area where he stayed strong. He looked agile. Hey, it wasn't his night, but you're going to, when they won it last time, buddy, it was, it was, it was Kemper. And then who's the backup who came in and played well? François. So with, he, I think the sticks in the lane and he, and he like somewhat bobbles it, but then pushes the pocket natus. So he didn't bobble it that bad, but he just, he didn't have the opportunity to shoot with, with, uh, when he rounded, when Middleton was kind of back in his kitchen after turning them, when a bag was he and said, also, I need to clear something up. A lot of people, I don't know why they don't understand it yet, but you gave us the stat that they've never, uh, clinched a series at home in 18 years. And so I immediately put that up on Twitter when it went three, nothing to do the reverse mush. And I got all these heavily and people how that one age, nice take, old takes as far as my guys did that all. You don't get my, my life yet. Yeah. Yeah. Welcome to the party. Welcome to the murals world. Murals leaves that series having two fan bases, wanting them dead. Yeah. He didn't even stay for cake for his nephew's birthday. Yeah. Yeah. So I mean, as we wrap up this series, um, everyone was expecting for, you know, more games, no doubt, but my, my, my thought is like, I don't see Colorado losing. I don't, I, how are you going to beat them? Maybe if McCarves to banged up, I mean, I know Vegas has a chance to end their series tonight that I think would be an amazing series, but I thought this one would be too. And now if they don't have Mark Stone and I, I just think the depth on Colorado, we haven't even mentioned Ross Colton. You see that hit he put on Quinn Hughes. He buries them. He punches them in the face. It's like, they got a bunch of nasty guys. They got guys who can fly. They backtrack like maniacs. It's, it's similar. I feel like they're similar to Carolina and how they play energy wise with more skill. Now that series could be incredible if somehow they meet in the cup final, but Colorado is a complete wagon. And, and, and at this point, I don't see anyone beating them. I wasn't, wasn't Ross Colton the center in Tampa? I don't know. He was a fourth line guy there for, for quite a bit. Right. But it's like, for them, it's like you build through the middle of the ice. Like if he's playing wing, like a guy that is a center, like good for them for having all those guys. Oh yeah. Minnesota could have used a guy like that. I mean, I mean, is he coming back? It's like, they get him back and like Nelson hasn't even woken up yet. He hasn't really done much. And then I got to say when it was three, nothing, and they're going back to many, I said, you know what they got to do? They're going to have to let N'Chushkin out of the Bazaar for one. I agree. I need him going. He's only got one goal. Or his way. So I think maybe on this break, they might have to let him out for one night and see if that's can spark them. But it's a slippery slope with him. You think? Yeah. Yeah. It's worth taking though. Definitely a slope. Definitely a slope. Well, Colorado, any other thoughts on on what we witness boys? Are we ready to move on? I think that from Quinn uses comments, like it looks promising that he would consider a future in a life in Minnesota. And you talk about needing centermen. If New Jersey doesn't clean things up, I could, I would, I could much rather see Jack going there than them going to New Jersey. I'll do it that way. Yeah. I don't give a f**king posture. The rumor being that Quinn signs signs. What I think three year extension would make them both UFAs at the same time. If that happens, I think it's panic time with the devils because then it's like, oh my god, they're going to be making choices together and they could go anywhere. Like that, you know, if you see Quinn sign a long term deal there, yeah, I mean, he's not going to New Jersey, but it doesn't necessarily mean Jack's going to Minnesota. If they're both finishing as a UFA the same year, it's game on. I'll promise you this. Jack's going to Minnesota before Quinn's going to New Jersey. That's a fact. I know Pasha is probably losing his mind back there, but without Pasha hopping on, there will be consequences next season. If the New Jersey devils do not make playoffs and I'm talking actual consequences, buddy, this guy's been talking about this team, like they're going to be a cup contender year over year over year. It's a f**king sh** show. He's not a serious person. 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And did they get one of the luckiest bounces I've ever seen? Yes. But man, no quit. And they end up winning a game that I like both these teams a lot. The same. I think we all do, but they won a game in which they didn't just beat the Canadians. They beat the refs. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Like, and I got Canadians fans telling me, you're full of shit. You don't know what you're talking about. Look at this cross check on Ruthless. Look at this cross check on Caulfield that wasn't called. And I never, the diving from the Canadians the other night, guys, a little bit going on for sure, a little bit going on there, but so why don't you take it away from your takeaways from Game 4 on electric Game 4, though? Yeah. I, well, I mean, I guess if we're talking about that specifically, I thought that Goulay went down very, very easy on the stage Thompson little love tap cross check and, and then sure enough, Caulfield ended up making it to one after that. So you had a team in Buffalo, who I thought drastically outplayed Montreal in the first period and all of a sudden they're going into the locker room down, right? So, but like, like, I think that that, that bounce that they got was the hockey gods rewarding them for sticking with it, playing through it and, and figuring things out. And of course on his 21st birthday, Benson ends up getting the winner in front of the net. Now, I don't want to take full credit for the victory, but they were getting no puk luck, no saves, no calls, their special teams were dog shit. And then it came to my head after some Saber fans thought I was rooting against them. I said, I'm not rooting against you. I'm not rooting against Montreal either. What I'm rooting for is a seven game series because like you said wit, I love both these teams. I want to see one more game in Montreal. I want to see scheme seven in Buffalo. Could you imagine like what, what, what are the blade gang? What kind of tricks do they have up their sleeve? If we go seven with Montreal, how many, how many Montreal Canadians fans are we going to see in the lower bull? There's so many questions to be answered if we do get seven games. And I can't say all, every single call has gone Montreal's way. I thought that Malenstein running over Dobish was like, that was, that was pretty egregious. Like that was, I more meant game four, not the entire series. No doubt, but definitely game four, they were getting hosed and they were getting the, the rubber fist up the hoop and, and Buffalo prevailed. So I'm just happy this thing's tied up to two. And, and yeah, overall boys, it's, it's electric series, electric series over. I think everybody had this going seven before it even started, right? And we need seven more than we need oxygen. This series has been awesome. Josh Stone has been incredible. The play that he made over to Benson on that goal, the first play that he made coming on their first goal, who was Samuelson. He comes over the blue line, loses control, but still has the puck makes a pass over to Norris. And then the play that he makes to Benson, Benson, unbelievable hands. Like to do that, that tight with bodies around you, get it up that quick. The kids have stud. What did you say? His jersey is the number one selling jersey in the NHL right now? I think now, no, I think I said went once, uh, uh, Porter, Marton and Zegris are eliminated now. I think that his is going to be, it's been selling like hot cakes and Buffalo. I think it's the number one jersey going in Buffalo. Oh, I got a phone call, boys. I got a phone call. Might be not only did they beat the Habs and the refs, they also beat the ESPN announcers. I don't know if you had that volume on with those guys. They're trying to say Dahlene was scratching an old cut to get the blood out. I took that as a like, I thought that was kind of tongue in cheek. I think it was McDonough, right? Like I didn't, I didn't think he was seriously saying that. And then Dave Jackson agreeing with every call when Goulet throws himself at Dahlene on the power play, throws himself, then lays on the ice. Like you got to disagree and say, oh, they should have called embellishment there or only embellishment. So we know the reason, we know the real reason why the f**king Habs lost. We have an address. Rear Admiral comes out of the dungeon to go to this first game of the year and decides to go up to my team, the Montreal Canadians in their own building. I said it as soon as he came on the, on the, on the last stream, I said, yes, the Montreal Canadians had to go, well, they're losing next game. There was no chance they were winning that game. So Montreal had to beat the Sabres, not the refs, but RA and they couldn't do it. But I'm praying, praying he goes to Buffalo to put on, he'll put on a Buffalo hat and brute for them. So I'm praying he goes to Buffalo and Montreal can get a win on the road. I want to talk about the, the no goal. It was Jack Quinn, correct? And that kid, Mer, is it, Haleinius? What is it? They were saying it weird on the broadcast, but I can't trust anything those guys are saying that night. Everybody knows who we're talking about. Let's call him Haleinius. The young Finn. What the hell was he doing not playing? Where the hell is this guy, Ben? What's he been just black acing the entire playoffs? This guy, he looked electric. So he drives the net. I mean, if you have a 10 minute review, that's where it's like, we got it. I don't, can we figure this out somehow? Well, the original review was whether the puck in his glove, it actually crossed the line. But I knew it crossed the line way sooner than they did. And so did you. You saw white in between the puck and the goal line in his glove. Right? Now, okay. Forget, forget the goal tender interference call. Have you seen the view of where Haleinius is skating at? Jack, I cross-checked some directly in the temple. I don't know how that didn't get called. That was where I think Buffalo fans, once, once they saw that they're losing their mind because they end up with a penalty, no goal, and a cross-check to the head of this new young stud who was flying around like McKinnon and he hadn't even been in the lineup. So that's where I was like, this might not be their night. Like this series, I don't, this is like, it was like the old magic of the Montreal Canadiens back in the 70s. He was also out there at the end of the game to ice the game. Like usually when a guy comes in that hasn't played, he's not out there the last minute or two of the game, but these Finns murals, you know, like they're fucking solely responsible. So I got a hand, I got a hand up my Culpa here. Okay. So they were calling Martin St. Louis, it was called a goal because it clearly crossed the goal line. So then Martin St. Louis says, I want a challenge for goalie interference. Oh, your video. There's discrepancy on Haleinius and whether he was pushed in and interfere and vice versa. I thought regardless of that, if you're watching that and you're going over goalie interference for a goal scored, can we not agree on when Quinn backhands that puck in the net on the follow through, he hits, dobishes glove, and pushes it in the net. I will disagree with you. I won't. I'm with you on this. It's clear that he pushes his glove back. It's clear. I know. And maybe, and maybe the rule states it doesn't matter, but I'm not looking at that as a purposeful or on purpose. It doesn't matter. It's not a high stick. It was so innocent to follow through of it where I thought I didn't, I was like, wow, I'm surprised. I didn't even know they were checking the question. Let me ask you a question. If the puck sitting in the crease, right, and the goalie's pad is before it, and you go and you make direct contact with the puck to jam it in and it pushes his pad back. What do they deem it? It's no goal, but are you talking about, okay, are you talking about spearing at the puck? Righty, you're pushing the puck into the net, regardless if it's a shot. You're trying to push the object into the net. Okay. So when he does that, if he doesn't, if he, if he shoots that backhand and he doesn't touch his glove and the, the, I mean, keep in mind the velocity of that little backhand is not going to push his glove back in that like that. That's not going to happen. What did it is the fact that when he follows through the follow through hits his glove right here, and it pushes his glove into the net. To me, that's no goal. So that's why I'm saying, but have they said that that would have been a goal like without the Helinius bumping into him? Like that's what they were reviewing. I understand that you're, you're reviewing goal tender interference was the goalie interfered with for the puck to cross the line. So obviously they, they ended up deeming it where Helinius was the one who they thought he was the one who initiated contact by going through the crease, regardless if you was pushed by jack guy. Okay. What I'm saying is, is if I'm video reviewing that and I'm saying, okay, let's look for Helinius here. It's kind of a 50-50, but it's like, Oh, well Quinn Hughes backhands that and hits his glove into the net. That's the goalie interference. That, that is it right now. If you're saying, Oh, if I'm Martin St. Louis, I have to deliberately challenge whether it's Helinius or not. Yeah, I think you do. I think you have to. Okay, well then, hold on. Let's bring in Dave Jackson. Let's bring in Dave. Let's bring in Dave. That's what the ref say going. Yeah, that's going interference guys. No doubt. Yeah, you have to, you have to tell them which, which play it is. They come over and ask you, are you challenging this one or this one? So it's a ballsy call, but it could have been on both of them. So that's what I'm wondering if they said, no interference on Linus, could he have challenged again? You lose your challenge. All right. So, so that's what, that's what made me think we've seen a ton of spearing at the goalie's pad and, and yes, no goal. The pad was pushed in the glove was pushed in that to me was just like, it was like the follow barely any follow through of the, of a soft back hander. And I was like, Oh, that's not enough to say he pushed his glove. Can you agree that, that, that the velocity of that backhand, if he doesn't touch his glove is not enough to like, like, yeah, like it's not like you're going like that from a slap shot. It's a fucking little, little like he's just swiping at it from the backhand. It would just go in his glove. It wouldn't push his glove back and the goalie's arms extended be so hard, like a little tap is going to move it back. So, so regardless of all the, the, the release that came out, Hylanius is the one who interfered with them. I think overall that goal should not have counted for the reason that the goalie was interfered with and the puck was pushing, Buffalo fans will scream till that's fine, but the hockey gods took care of them in the end. And so did I by throwing on the goat head. I'm not a, I'm not hopping on the bandwagon. I'm not, I just did you guys a solid cause I thought you deserved it. So you just want game seven. So Rhonda should be eating my fucking cornhole out when we get the Buffalo there for the, what do you mean? That's my wife. I could talk about her anywhere I want to. That's true. That's true. That's true. Sorry. Hey, by the way, by the way, Rhonda has reached out. Can I read, can I, I'm going to read you. Can't wait for the bachelor party. I'm going to, oh buddy, oh buddy. I was even going to dangle the carrot and tell all, all you Buffalo fans and the team that if you're able to get to the finals, we don't have TNT this year. I will marry Rhonda and the blade gangs backyard and we will throw the celebration of a lifetime before the first game of that series. Rhonda missed the net. What a wedding that would be. I'm going to read you what she wrote. I'm going to find it here. Well, Biz is looking at up people. We had Andrew Peters on game notes yesterday, former Buffalo Saber enforcer. He gave us some good inside scoops on everything that went on this year with the Sabers, what it's like playing for Lindy Ruff. So if you need something to do after listening to this, go over there and listen to PD. He's pretty funny. What's he up to, Murrow? He's got his podcast out there with Craig Reve, so they're covering the Sabers and you know, he's just, he's living in Buffalo, living a clean life. It's a scary dude, man. We talked about when he fought Ray Emory and that whole brawl and they don't make the fighters like that anymore. He was a huge man. Holy God. We would throw the punches from back here. Yeah. She goes, I'll start it off. I'll back this up to Monday. Rhonda apologizes. We are loose cannons in Buffalo and obviously I sent the kiss emoji. What up, girl? What up? She goes, Rob's dead when I see him for calling me Rhonda, a tender bumble chick. I wrote, ha, ha, ha, ha, obviously. And then after the game, she writes me right away. She goes in capital letters, thanks for changing the Sabers. Luck last night, you sweet angel baby. Rhonda, appreciate you. I wrote, of course, my love, anything for you. Stop doing like the sex voice. What do you mean? Is she calling herself Rhonda? Oh, you think she isn't legally changing her and fucking name for the Lord? Went to the Lord house in, in a goat head jersey and did it just because that's what is called her. And we, we described her last pod. I looked at her profile, Bill's jersey, Bill's hats, like she is all in. If you don't think that the Bill's cheerleaders will be there as her, her, what do you call the girls that hang out with the girl, the bridesmaids? And I'm gonna have the cheerleaders are called the Buffalo Jills. The Buffalo Jills will be there. That's what they're called. They're all named Jill. Yeah. I'm going to have the blade gang as my, my groomsmen and fuck, are we going to have a celebration that the boys can pull it out? I was so surprised that Montreal, they got that four minute power play into the second, right? And did it go into the third period? Yeah. Yes. And they had the good ice. They had, I think it was bull byroom high stick. Yeah. And they weren't able to get one there. I was like, I had to go head on that Benson play though, just using his skate and then beautiful goal. And that kid also shout out New Hawk, who's this guy's on fire right now. He's playing amazing. I whoever, whoever made the call to make that trade should get a fucking raise that because that like to bring in a guy like that for what he's done because slap hasn't been great. Demodog hasn't been great or at least scoring and Caulfield obviously just got one. What's, you know, you get two, but like to bring in a guy that can score depth that has the Stanley Cup pedigree, what, what an absolute steal of a trade. Slap. We talk about the Guli dives. The slap one was, I mean, he looked like he got shot from the, the, the battle. Who hit him? Now that play was, was it Thompson or was it the goalie? I think he got the goalies butt end. The one where he just like laid, he stayed down, but all of a sudden it was just like, but was that even a penalty? No, they didn't call. They had enough of the diving and everything else by then. That's, they gave up on it. Do you guys think the boy that cried wolf, because I had a guy saying that he's like, Oh, well you missed that one. I'm like, you ever hear the story of the boy that cried wolf? You keep diving. Eventually they're going to think it's a dive. Lindy, Lindy Ruff tiptoed around it and, and addressed it in a perfect way. Like the veteran he is, there's no chance that they don't end up with the better end of the calls in game five at home. That's what I was just going to say. No chance. So much more better be prepared. The refs leave that game and they see a couple of replays and that pisses refs off, you know, because they kind of looking bad and they're like, fuck that. Like I'm not, we're not giving them anything. Even if it's a different crew, it's like, we just saw a bunch of theatrics there in game four. So you better be fighting through checks in game five. You noticed that in the Minnesota, Colorado game, because you know, all the refs have the phone calls. There was what one power play each. So I liked that about that game where they just let them play and there was flow and everything. And I'm sure most of you people listening know this, every series has a referee supervisor. So after the game, you know, Lindy Ruff and the Buffalo Sabres are going, Hey, listen, we won no hard, no, no, no, like, you know, no hard feelings here, but watch those replays. Like Whit said, and all of a sudden they're going to be on high alert for Goulay and Slaff and whoever's flopping around for the Montreal Canadiens and it could come back to bite you in the ass. So, so they took care of their power plays. They went two for four, Buffalo and Montreal was one for seven. And I got to admit, I was completely wrong because I'm thinking game three, get you PL in there, get them used to the building, get them used to the crowd. They didn't. He was phenomenal. He was awesome. And to be able, it's just I went on the, I mentioned you guys, I was going on the trap draw podcast. I did it yesterday. A lot of hockey talk, kind of teaching these guys maybe a little bit and they asked about goal tending and how now it so many teams have two. And when we were all younger, it was just you had a stud. And then if the stud had to got injured or something, was like, Oh, no, our backup's coming in. Well, look at Colorado, look at Buffalo now. I mean, Lionel probably play again if they somehow win this series and move on. It's just to have two guys is just so valuable and you PL credit to him. That was not an easy game to play. No, no, people forget you PL turned the whole season around when he got caught out at that bar 40 thieves. And their record has just been ridiculous 36 and two or something ridiculous. So the guys love him for flipping the season. You knew he was going to come in and have a good game. But there is something about this Montreal. I don't know if it's their whole organization, but we caught a clip of army who is a former Montreal Canadian. He dove in the, in the charity game yesterday. I saw that. It's all, I don't know if it's an organizational thing. Is it taught at all levels of Montreal Canadians, but arm dog is even diving. The biggest ever seen. Can I see a little hook and he literally dove like it was a diving board. Oh, no. Hey, Montreal is one of those buildings though. You always knew you were going to get, you know, the raw end of the calls. Like I don't know if it's because the crowd gets so into it and gets on the rest, but you always knew going in, you were going to get the short end of the stick with the power plays. Yeah. Yeah, they're good. Guys, real quick before we, before we move on to Vegas, Anaheim, I feel like we kind of buried the lead in the first series. Nathan McKinnon will not take picture, take questions from biz and the scuba gear. Yeah, that was nice. He ended up taking some. He took one at the end. I got, I saw his teeth. Without your nose, you're so different looking. I was like, whoa. Like, you can see your face. Oh, that's what his face looks like in a Michael Jackson type way. You mean you should do, you should do the Michael Jackson nose, dude. Get the kid, Anthony Kim. As he was saying, no one just looks so missable after just dominating another series and moving on. I was like, I think we might, we might be black. He got him to smile though. He saw his teeth for the first time. I mean, I'm just proud of getting to see his teeth. He was key cracked up. He came on and we had the monitor out for him. And I, I once, once that video came out, I texted the producers. I said, I, I was like, fuck, I'm, if we get him pregame, should I do it? No, he would have been blank face. And he would have walked off. He would have walked off would not be. So it was the perfect time. He scores that tying goal. He was in the best mood ever. So I'm, I'm very thankful to the hockey gods for also taking care of us in that regard. If you get, if you guys get the Western conference finals and you guys stay at the same hotel, you just got to spend all day in the pool waiting for him, get some laps. Oh buddy, I was already, I was already thinking of a skit in my head. If we can get Wayne and Panger involved, they're going to have like those tanning things out, the panger peptide tan going. And I'm going to ask Wayne to get in with the snorkeler and maybe McKinnon would be a part of it, but probably not because it's playing awesome. They have one goal in mind. He also had to get it out there. He's like, there was 10 other guys in the pool. Like I think he's got me at the end. Like he was like, I'm throwing everyone. I was not the only guy in the pool. I think he mentioned proprioception is a part of it. I was like, wow, proprioception. No clue. No clue. I might not even be saying the right word. He said some word that begins with a P, but what he gets done in the pool. And he's like, it was 10 minutes. Basically, shut the fuck up is put an NHL hat on. I don't know if you guys follow Twitter. I don't know if I'm allowed to show it, but I'll show it anyway right here on my phone. But Montréal is taking a page out of McKinnon's playbook. Okay, the diving team. I saw an AI image of the four of I think it was Suzuki was one of them. Although he, I don't think he's Dova or he's not a diver. And I haven't seen Hudson dive. No, no. How about Hudson skate and hunt for that loose puck? Dude, that was incredible. Oh my god. I think someone texted the group chat, Jesus Christ Hudson. Me. Yeah. It was like one of those that just fly across the water. How about that save? We didn't bring up that save up made on Caulfield. I was like, was that that was game four, right? Was that game three? Yeah. Yeah. Because you PL played. Yeah. Oh, that was, I mean, that's, that's a goal. Caulfield gets a one time dish like that. It's like it's in the net. That was, I know kind of hit him, but still incredible to get across and get a piece of that one. So two more things need a little bit more from Owen power. Not not saying he's been playing horrible, just a little fucking meaner. And because of the shit show in game three and game two, them getting bullied around, Luke Scheng gets put in the lineup. He played seven minutes, not a ton, but fucking stick taps for him, man. And I, I, I didn't think that that Montreal was nearly as physical and there wasn't as much bullshit as there was in the two prior games. So I don't know if that was necessarily a deterrent. I don't know if there was any conversation that happened at the red line or maybe in the midst of the game, but nice to see Shanner getting the lineup and, and then pull out a victory. Yeah. I had it in my notes. Oh, and power. I think it was his first shift to the game. He's in on the four check. So he's gone 200 feet and he doesn't finish the check. He curls and comes back. You're six four. You're already there. Go run the guy. Yeah. But yes, I love that. I love you. Shout out those, uh, the lineup changes they made. That was called at one point, I think in Pittsburgh, the Whitney, you know, six, four defensemen caught up by, he doesn't even hit the guy. You might as well do something and then chase it back a two on one. And if you could put half of, of Jack guys, like, like squirreling us and intensity and physicality into power, I think you, fuck, you might have Chris Prowder. He should literally live with prongs for a summer and just be like, okay, man, how do I hate everybody? How do I be so mean? How do I like, cause he's got it. He's got all the tools. You just, you got to be more than a minute cruncher out there. You got to believe Montreal lost. Did you see Jack guys, uh, you're walking in. You see his fit. No, he's always got the fun outfits. They got some guys in that team that he looked phenomenal. He looked phenomenal. I gotta be honest with you. I don't know if we could find that, but, um, the one other series going on boys, Vegas, Anaheim, the Vegas golden Knights and Pavel Dorofiev. What a game by this kid. Now, once again, I will remind everyone, our guy, Liam Blutman said he cannot play in the playoffs. Word for word, bar for bar. He, this guy can't play in the playoffs. What does he have seven goals now? And his first goal of the game, one of the best defensive plays I've seen in the playoffs. I think Crieder thought he was kind of alone and he's going up ice possible. Odd man, rush, Dorfie have lifts to stick. Then he brings it to the middle, complete snipe and the OT winner, he batted that thing out of midair. I couldn't tell. Unbelievable. And then you see the replay, that goal. Once you see a replay was way more impressive than, than what you thought happened live off the pads. Yeah. Oh, so it's, yeah, you think, I think Eichel's trying to score that one bit. That's not a POP. The mixer throw to the mixer. Good things will happen. I think he owes me a commission. But takeaways from that game. Once again, Anaheim and they dominated a lot of that game. I think early on the Vegas looked way better. And then all of a sudden here comes Anaheim and here's a stat that kind of rattles me because I'm wanting seven in this series. Vegas is, I think they're five and all in their careers of franchise when winning game five will tied two, two. And in each one, they've actually closed it out in six. So that's, it's exactly what they did to Utah. So it's like, if Vegas is going to keep rolling in like they haven't in their past, they're going to, they're going to get it done in game six and I should have bet my life on Vegas and six. I knew it was coming. And the paling loss, concussion, we can get into that hit. That, that, that hurts because if they're thin anywhere, I think they're a little thin up the middle. And that just puts their sentiment on a bit of an island. Leo's a young guy. He's lugging a lot of minutes right now. They have washy and then who's the other guy that would be in the middle there? Like who's, who's another guy who's going to have to step up and play for Anaheim with paling out? That's the fact that you guys don't even have a name ready is exactly all you need to know. Where's McTavish been playing? They could use him to step up his game. I think he would be exposed in the middle of the ice right now. He's not ready. He looked good last game. I thought he played, played better last game because he played with a little bit more snarl. Yeah. He was, I think he was a healthy, the game prior or at least has been in the series. My issue with McTavish is just consistency. Sometimes like he'll be, he'll be great. And then other times you're like, Oh, fuck, is that biz out there? But yeah, Vegas did this too with against Utah. Like Utah looked dominant at times. Like they looked like they were the better team. Just might be the way Vegas plays. Like they play that rope adobe style. They're like, okay, you can dominate for a couple, you know, 10 minutes a game. You can do your thing, but we're going to find a way to win these games and they do. And Dora, like how big was that goal? I know, and I didn't like the fact that they didn't celebrate hard enough when a hurdle got his goal in game. Um, or that had been game three. But they were still in it. It made it four, three. Anaheim was still ahead. Yeah. And then they almost scored right after that. Dora Fiave almost scored right after that. But like, it wasn't that big of a celebration, but like when you're a goal scorer and you see a puck go in, you get that confidence and he gets a beautiful goal the night after. And he went absolutely insane. It was such a good celebration. His teammates were so happy for him. Like they showed the bench. They were going nuts. So that was a, that was a good, great goal by him. But you got to see him. He'll be getting going even more now and watch out for him. The biggest thing though is with McNabb, by the way, first time he's been suspended in his 14 years, he plays hard. That I was, Suspendable hit, suspendable hit. Yeah. Gary was kind of bitching. We were going back and forth. Via Tex and I'm like, but no way. Lawless, lawless. You mean not Batman. Yeah. Not bad. And I'm like, well, like you got like they're, they're basically their second, if not third, best center. I would say second best center who helps kill penalties out for next game. And I think it's a huge, obviously loss for Vegas because I think that they're penalty kill. And I think they're shot blocking leader in McNabb is now going to be out. So it's basically a one for one. So if anything, I could see Anaheim, I would actually bet power play goal for Anaheim. Got to win this one. Anaheim. Got to win it. McNabb has been looking to do that to somebody for all playoffs. How many times have we chirped in our group chat? Like, oh, look, he's trying to put him to sleep like the arm dog used to. He's great. Yeah. Used to. Now he's diving. He passed. I had no idea. He's been playing 22 minutes a game. McNabb is a beast, buddy. Yeah. He's a beast. He's a champion. But that hit. I literally could feel like I was like, oh, it was like he collapsed his sternum. And the puck was, I mean, the puck was like, they hadn't even dropped it yet. 15 feet away. When you get hit when there's no puck, it hurts 7,000 times more. It's fucking because you let down your guard. You're like, oh, it's nowhere near me. Should we bring in the diver? Yeah, let's bring him in. He's driving around on a golf cart. Oh, we were calling him a diver. Bring this guy in right now. I think he just mouth. What the fuck are they fucking? He might die. What do you mean? I'm diving, buddy. We saw the clip. Not me. Looked like friggin. Googly on the Canadians. Goulet as Merle's calls him. The Robert Goulet. Goulet. No way, man. That was a hawk. I wasn't going fast, but that's brutal. Is the wind bad out here? Oh my God. You sound amazing. Look amazing. Who's next to you? Oh, just a member here. Guess where we are. We're being up is beat you and bugsy. Hey, what's his name? What's his name? Julian, Julian, Mikola, Mikola. Who doesn't love Mikola? But I'm here with these guys here. I'll show you these guys here. But we played in Bugsy's event and little game last night, little golf today with the boys saw Copa Tarr. He's retired, of course. We know that. Congratulations. I'm on a great career. But we got these knuckleheads. Right. Oh, yeah. Game winning goal last night right here. Hell yeah. Game winning goal at jeans too. How's their golf game? Fucking kid. Kid rocks on our fucking stream right now. Boys, they said they said, uh, be ready for them. Big deal selects. They're ready to roll Trainings on that one before work in the off season. I don't know if uncle business caught us yet, but we're putting the work weather looks beautiful. Huh? It's horrible. It's horrible. This is not my style. I'm like, I need, I'm so bad at golf. You guys know this that I need, uh, like good weather at least and be boozing like pretty heavily freezing cold here right now. But we are at the scene of the crime biz where you and bugsy were coming up on that whole after this one where you we have where you scrapped and you made bugs, you bleed his own blood. I made him bleed his own blood. Can we get the camera to someone so we can see your shot? Are you both? Yeah. No, I'm not. I didn't play this whole because I sent him out for this whole because I got to come on with you guys. I was going to ask Ollie and Jacob what they make of the, the knob block situation because I think that their Calgary guys. Yeah. I'll ask him, hold on. You guys want to see him shoot here? Hey, he goes, we got a pretty, pretty big chip coming up here. Here he is. Let's see how he does. Yeah. I watched the clips of those. It's insane. Those guys play with zero equipment on just in jeans and everybody else. They don't give a shit. And there's like non skaters out there. So all of this, I think I did this so nice here with you too guys. Oh, it's going all the way back down. It's going all the way back. What a loser. Who needs a PGA championship when we got the on the bench boys playing Pittsburgh army. Do you think quickly, army? Do you think Vegas ends it tonight? No. Okay. I don't think so. Man, Seneke has five goals. That kid's a weapon. Yeah. I love that kid. Like they're just so dangerous. Their power plays can save them. I, I, I just don't think they're going to go quietly into the night against Vegas. I think we'll push it to another game here. What do you guys don't think so? I'm on the dock. Really wishes he bet on Vegas, Vegas and six. He'd said that prior to the series and now it looks like I, I didn't mention yet. I think before the series I mentioned it was if Carlson could outplay Eichel, I think those outplayed him. You know, no slight on Carlson. Eichel's just no good. Yeah. I like, I love Leo. I love a lot of their young guys, you know, like I, I think they're, they're in a good spot obviously, but it's, it's tough to go head to head against a monster like that. Like what Eichel can do at both ends of the ice. And, and I think Leo's in, in kind of that learning phase right now. Like he's taking this all in like first time playoffs, first time head to head in a seven game series against a weapon like Eichel. Like that's, that's a challenge. Hey, like, I think he was a little upset at himself after that Oteagle the other night, just maybe not staying enough on the defensive side, but like that's, that's what Eichel, but when Eichel turns it up, he is easily top five in the league. Eichel not looked like super casual at times, but it's just, it's just the way he looks. He did early in the Utah series and then he ramped it up and they won in six and he did maybe at the beginning of this series and then he ramped it up again and look where they're at. And I think he's going to have a hell of a game six to close out. Yeah, he will. One of the main reasons I wanted to get Yarna on army is you texted me and you said you're going to be joining the, the hockey night and Canada panel, which is fucking awesome. So yeah, I'm waiting up there. I'm waiting to hear from them about scheduling for the conference finals. So I got that going on coming up here right now and I'm waiting in the wings. So if they're watching or listening, got my phone on, even when I'm golfing, I'm ready to roll at least a couple of games, get you in the mix buddy. Come on, check the game notes. Yeah. Check the game notes, check the game notes, ready to roll. I'm drinking transfusions. I'm freezing my ass off on the course right now, boys, but playoffs with, are you still down on playoffs of it? No, I think Montreal Buffalo last game, Colorado mini last game has gotten me. That was insane last night. Insane. Want to come back. We went over that series already. If I can get a great two games tonight, then I will take back what I said about the second round through two to three games of each series, because, you know, it was basically like biz said it, the only real close game, game three was a little close or game four in mini Colorado and it ends up five, two game, five phenomenal. The past two games or at least the last game, Montreal Buffalo great. So we're on the right track here. All right, arm dog. We'll let you go buddy. I'm here, boys. I'm here. I want to show you this grade here, boys. Are we going to see a swing? No, I think we're going into get drinks. That's where me and Bugsy teed off on each other. And if you haven't seen that sandbag, here's the call house to the who are fighting. I'm like, boy, I'm like, Bugsy, I live here. What the hell are you guys doing? Just animals out here on the clubhouse. Shout out Swickley Heights golf course caught us out here. Mark, Mark Barkowski and Bugsy put it all together. Jeff Carter's here. Copey's here. Copey came out. Yeah. Copey's in the group ahead of us. I don't know if I can find him. If I find him, maybe I'll text G and try to get back 100% we'll say hi to him. They'll come on and say hi to the fans and we'll, we'll congratulate him on a hell of a run. Yeah. He's in dad mode. He's ready to roll. He's doing like hockey tournaments, figure skating stuff with his kids. He's, he said his schedule for travel right now is like no other. I said, buddy, get in line. Good luck. All right, all right. Thanks for having me on, boys. See you, buddy. See you. See you. See you boys. Love you guys. Another cool thing we saw in Anaheim. Well, I mean, depending on how you look at it. So, Olin's Elwiger, he played 76 games this year, right? Like pretty good season. He's young defenseman. He can skate. They put in Tyson Hins. Get army. Oh, he's off. Yeah. They put in Tyson Hins who played basically all year in the AHL for the for the playoffs, which has got to be hard for Zell Wigger, right? He's smaller. They're looking for a little more size, but they put Zell Wigger back in. He's looked great. He had the tying goal in game. What was that? Game four or was it game five? Yeah. Game five, he tied it up. He's had an assist as well. He's flying around. So pretty cool for him to get back in and then actually show like, Hey, I was up here playing all year. Like, don't that's got to hurt. You play all season and then you lose your job. Two guys had been in the AHL for 60 games this year. It was kind of a surprising decision that I've been working, but he's back in and look good. So armed dog doesn't think it's over. He thinks it's over. I don't think it's over. Down at home. I like Anaheim. I like Anaheim tonight, too, especially with McNabb out. You talked how much he's playing. Yens, we got any word on the butcher? Any chance he shows up tonight? I don't know. I haven't done any digging, big style, but I'm not sure that would be a huge ad for him. But then does that mean Zell Wiggers out? Like he's got to stay in now. Yeah, true. Yeah. So who would come out? I got the ducks. I think the ducks get it done at home. They've been great at home all year. Coach Q will make some adjustments and they find a way to get it back to Vegas. Maybe they put the butcher at forward like they did with more. Let him get in on the four check. Coma causey mission. Um, well, we got some quick hits. Oh, yeah, we do. Yeah, we got some big time quick hit. I'll start with business old team. Greg Barubi. Fine. I mean, what a disaster of a season. Not saying on him. These bros ain't bro. Jim accident. The picture that his forehead is stitches. I saw a picture of I think an AI generated of him doing the he's on the boat. Like was that? He's had the send off. But it looked like the shark just being getting me to death. He's getting me to death. I've been there. Craig, I've been there. If you need any advice. Actually, we'll go into Toronto in a second because I think we go to Edmonton. Chris Knoblock has been let go by the Edmonton Oilers. And there's a man I'd love to chat to about this. And I need to hear his opinion for anyone who doesn't know the news breaks that the Oilers asked to talk to Bruce Cassidy. The Vegas Golden Knights did not give them permission. All of a sudden, oh my God, like Knoblock is still your coach. This is now news. This was supposed to remain private. It doesn't remain private. It's a day and age. What? Who leaked it? That's a great question. It wasn't the Oilers. I'll tell you that because in my opinion, if Cassidy wasn't interested or they couldn't figure it out, they were going to keep Chris Knoblock. What? You can't. That's what I thought. Because why wouldn't they have fired him? So, basically, you just want to get his kind of like the wean sucked on the road, come back to the old ladies. I don't want to appreciate that talk of stuff comes on. Bob, what's going on? Crazy day in Edmonton. Yeah, just say the least. Stan Bowman's doing his availability right now, guys. You know, and there's a lot to unpack here during the course of the season. There's no other way to say it. It was an underwhelming year. I think that it's entirely possible that Chris Knoblock was the right guy at the right time when he came in in November of 23. He settled things down. He was relaxed. He had a tremendous assistant coach by the name of Glenn Gullinson that was experienced, that had a long history with Conor McAven and Leon Dreist settle, that helped him out with the nuances of being an NHL Ed coach. And then he had a dynamic force come in with them and Paul Coffey, who's old school. You know, he's not the guy that's going to sit there and pull out the iPad on the bench, but he knows how to breed confidence in players. And I think that that tandem certainly helped Chris. And if you look at the 23, 24 and 24, 25 seasons, they were completely different than this year. You know, in 23, 24, Edmonton went 24 and three during one stretch, an eight-game winning streak and a 16 game winning streak. People forget last year in 24, 25 from November the ninth until the four nations face off for three months. The orders have the best record in the NHL. Okay. They didn't come close to anything like that with a new staff this year. They didn't have one three game winning streak until March. Got a five game winning streak late in the year. Got injured in the playoffs, regressed in several areas. And the organization's the critical time. They got Conor McDavid two years left in a deal. They got a win. And so the feeling was they needed a different voice. I was just going to stop. Are you okay? Like, how are you? No, he's not. Are you all right? Like, I've never seen anybody this depressed on this show in my life. Well, Paul, I mean, I've known Chris Knoblock for 25 years, right? So, you know, we, you know, I used to have him when Ryan was in the weather. He used to come on my show. Now people go, why the hell would you have the coach from the Coopney ice on your show? And I'm like, because this guy is going to be an NHL coach one day. It wasn't an accident. He ended up with Erie. Okay. The orders were helping Sherry Bassin out. He was the GM and owner of the team at that time. And Sherry liked Chris. But it wasn't an accident that he ended up there. And his career took off in Erie, where he became the first major junior coach in history to win four straight 50 plus wins seasons. That's hard to do. People go, oh, he was a byproduct of David. He won 50 games two more years after Conor was playing with the Oilers. So, you know, I've watched this guy's journey. You know, I'm in year 18 doing the orders. We've had some coaches. But when you have a Conor and David and Leon Drys settle, we, and by the way, the orders have three superstars now. I don't have two, because I'm adding Evan Bouchard. He's a superstar player. Yep. There is an expectation to win right now. And you can't have the regression that Edmonton had. Chris found a way to integrate all the players in 23, 24. He'd be, I'm sure be the first to tell you, you wish he could have got more guys engaged in the ball this year. And yes, Edmonton had injuries at center. And just like Minnesota, Bill Gerns not going to sit there and say, well, I didn't have Erickson and Rodney, my shutdown tandem, which gives McDavid 40 Fedes to go up against McKinnon's line. The order, you know, the orders got beat by the Ducks just like the office beat the wild. You respect your opponent. Lots of people think the orders were out coaching that series. Anaheim, like the juice Anaheim got out of the Washi line, which FVL, you know, those guys are, they weren't even in the NHL. Let's start a year, you know, and so Ebotten has a window. I feel bad for Chris. I feel bad for Chris's family. It's a tough business someday. Some days. Saying that I have a full expectation that the orders will look for a completely different type of coach here carrying forward. These homes ain't loyal. That was my, my main takeaway was somebody with a little bit more piss and vinegar, but I, I trust no one more than you in terms of the Oilers. And I'm wondering your opinion on the way everything was approached. So in the grand scheme of things, you're looking at it like, if we don't get Cassidy, and this is just my thoughts or ideas, we don't get Cassidy, NobLock can be back. Fine. Now, what do you think? I don't know about that, Ryan. Okay. Okay, then Bob, then Bob, why don't you let NobLock go before you talk to Cassidy? Well, for one, you've got, you want to deliver the news face to face. I have no idea how the, you know, how the report got out. And Stan Bowman would not comment on that, but it was Mother's Day weekend. And the guys flew back in Edmonton yesterday. Okay. And got delayed during the course of the day, which Ryan, you played here. That's not uncommon. And so you want to, you know, you want to look at guy between the antlers. And so they needed to have that conversation. It took place last night with Jeff Jackson and Stan Bowman and Chris NobLock. And then the announcement was made today. So, Steph, what about calling him and saying, listen, like things are, Yeah, I, I'm not going to, I don't know about the protocol on that. I got to tell you, right? Like, it's, uh, is there a right way to do it? I mean, I can remember going back to Craig Mhachavish telling us the end of the 12, 13 season, when he just taken over from GM at coach, it wasn't an issue. And then they pivoted to Dallas Akins, basically meeting them at the combine and Ralph Kruger was over in Europe. And so they had to tell them via Zoom, right? Or however they did at the time. So, you know, I, I don't have the full rundown on this. All I'm going to tell you is I'm going to tell you exactly the type of coach they're going to go get. And it's a different coach than NobLock. And it's going to be an experienced coach with gravitas that can put structure and process in the team's game, probably help the penalty shell and his one before. So that's going to be the type of guy they're looking for. So outside of Cassidy, who would that be? Well, that's the panic in my opinion stuff is if you don't get them. If you don't get Cassidy Watts, there's no guarantee they will. He's going to have options and we'll see what Vegas ultimately, I mean, Vegas has some control on this as well, right? I don't know where and I have no idea where this is at at this time. He, you know, is technically a very employee. What do you think of Vegas doing that the way they handled it? I don't know all the aspects of it. I know that Vegas, when the Edmonton Oilers fired Peter Shirelli, I put a tweet out with my top five candidates, Kelly McCrimmon was the assistant GM to George McVie at that time and I had Kelly number one. I mean, I told guys when they bought WHL teams, when that call comes in from Kelly McCrimmon, you hang up the phone because you've already lost the trade. He's going to kick your ass. Okay. So I like, I think Vegas is a pretty well run. I'm going to say this. The Vegas Golden Knights beat the Edmonton Oilers in the margins in 2023 when they won that series. Okay. I sent it last year, if you guys went Amazon with Gary, you know, and I have tremendous, I was actually surprised Edmonton won the series in five games last year. And the orders really got going around two and three. I mean, they beat Vegas in five and Dallas in five. And but, you know, the Hyman injury was massive. The Nudge buses had in game two against Florida and Florida was so deep that it appeared as though Edmonton was further away from winning the year before they probably were. And they were different teams. And that's another factor here. Like Stan Bowman just took personal accountability. So this is not all on Chris. We made some bets and players has not worked out to this point. And players didn't perform at the level that we thought they would. That's it. He said that's on me. I made the call there. So, but I do think we're looking at an experienced veteran coach. So I mean, there's there's some guys out there, obviously Peter Lavey left. What about chief? He's one chiefs one. He's an old yeah, Craig Barubi, right? Sure. Do you think it's more of a coaching issue or a personnel issue with all this turnover and all the play? Like when does management take a look in the mirror? I think management is taking a look at the mirror. Yeah, I was going to say you could bring in Al Arbor, Scottie Bowman with that goal tending in 9.25 million D man that has to play all the time that can't play. You're not going to win shit. Yeah, well, they did get to a seventh and sixth game of the Stanley Cup final with what people thought was 10 different players this year to below average goal. But the goal tending is the question's fair. I mean, they ranked the goalies of the 16 playoff teams, you know, TNT did, the quarters would not rank highly. And it was clear Chris Conringham was Chris's guide, Tristan Jerry. Tristan's going to have a massive bounce back here. And if for all of you guys to sit there and say, stop, you can't count on that, that is a fair perspective to have. Now, do you think it's loser talk kind of like all you hear is like Edmonton hanging their hat on going to back to back finals, obviously not winning. And I know how hard it is to get to the Stanley Cup finals. But like when you just say, Oh, we got to the finals two years in a row, it doesn't really mean shit. I think you know exactly what you're talking about. I think it sucks for those guys. And I think that the players think they're in a window and damn it, they have to win now. And so you can't change out all the players. But what you can do is change out the staff a bit. So it sucks for Chris. And they're going to bring in a different type of coach Chris, Chris, you know, the reps would love Chris because he was, you know, I'll give you an example. That was a tough call in game four against Anaheim, right? Remember the puck that squeaked through Jerry, Jerry played pretty well. Puck was shot from the sideline that the lot in both officials did not look like they were in great position on the plate. They don't, they don't pull the play dead. And the explanation is, well, we got the call right at the end anyways, because the puck was marginally over the line. Game five, Edmonton's up four one. And Leon Driesel, who has been a beast in the playoffs his entire career, right? Absolute beast gets cross-jaded from behind right in front of the referee. That is a major penalty in a regular season game. I'm thinking, I'm looking at Chris going, you got a freebie there, man, especially after what happened in game four, let her rip. You know, I watched Rod Brindlemore go after the officials, Joel Cuenville. And I wonder whether or not maybe a missed off, but sometimes you got to show a little bit of motion. And you know what I'm saying? I agree. That's what was lacking at times is, and I think that was the disconnect. Maybe I'm wrong between him and Paul Coffey and Coff comes back after the Olympics this year. The scary part is that you said it. I mean, this is the biggest off season, maybe in the history of the Oilers organization. And the start it's off to is like, ah, it's just a tough, it's an ugly start. Now, if they end up getting Cassidy, whoever they get, like, we'll see what happens with the roster. But I do wonder if McDavid and Leon don't speak so freely in that postseason press conference, if this is, if this would have all gone down, because they were, I mean, to sit there and say, we took a big step backwards. It's like, people were like, holy shit, you don't hear that often. And they didn't just say it's the roster. They put stuff on themselves. And I think Leon mentioned, I got to be more defensive. That is the thing. Like they have to play defense stuff that you can't, you can't win if you're not going to play D. You get, they have bad team defense at least this year. And if, and if he's such a good coach, like why are they mentioning like, and saying words like structure and stuff like that? Like, I don't know. Well, that's, that's, that's work backwards here. Okay. Connor McDavid after the letters lost game six of the Stanley Cup final made some comments about Edmonton's inability to deal with what, what Florida was doing. Okay. And adjust. Yeah. And adjust, right. And then just before the Olympic break, okay. Leon dry settle after gaming against Calgary, in which, and I, I criticized Chris on the air for healthy scratch and Trent Fretner. I know Freddie had a, he had a bad year. I don't care. He's on an eight year deal. It's coaches at the end of the day, coaching is to me, and it's not an easy job, but the best coaches are the ones that can get the most out of all their place. Yeah. You got to instill confidence in your guys, right? And they signed Trent Fretner to an eight year deal to give him some jam and a bigger presence. And, and they never got nothing out of them the entire year. And I didn't agree with him being scratched in Calgary against a team like the flames that they're a tough team at home. I mean, you know, they did that's a team that's got a little bit of bite and the orders lost tonight and Leon went off and in right away, he said coaching's got to be better. And I, you know, we're flying back to Calgary as we're heading off to the Olympic break from Calgary and thinking this is probably not a good and the eight previous games you order should have gone two and six. They were four and four and they had the worst goals against the league over those eight games and the worst penalty kill. So something had to give coming out of the Olympic break and that was Paul Coffey returning. And they did play better in the regular season. Then when Leon got hurt, they played Tampa Bay and the lightning came in and kicked the snot out of the orders for nothing. And that night it was Connor McDavid talking about John Cooper who has gravitas who has a big personality. That said, he's two and 10 at home in the playoffs in the last four years after they went to the final three years and all winning two cups, but he's won the cups. And you know, as you guys said, you'll win changes everything. So there was commentary during the course of the year from your two best players, your two leaders, and then they circled back to it in the exit interviews at the end of the year or not the exit and with the media saying, look, we regressed. And I think that's the biggest takeaway here is with all due respect to Chris, he's got a pretty good record, got a team to a Stanley Cup final first NHL coach. Since Scotty Bowman to get the Stanley Cup in his first two years, I think there was regression. And I think that they felt they need a different voice carrying forward and absolutely you listen to the players. We're all here because of the players. You got Keith, you know that Ryan, you know that Paul, you know that like rule number one, it doesn't matter if you're a manager or a scout, a broadcaster, you know, we're here, guys of the equipment room, everyone's here because of the players and you got to listen to your players and you got to read between the lines sometimes with what the players are saying. And frankly, they didn't even have to read between the lines. It was pretty obvious. That's why I love the fact that they came out because that's that's that new school era. That didn't happen 10, 15 years ago, but you see how much these guys put into their craft, how bad they want to win. And they're like, listen, we need everyone. We need the management, the coaches, the players because at the end of the day, they're going to bring it every single game every year they play because they're that good. But like they need help. Like you need help to win in the NHL. You two guys, three guys can't win you a Stanley Cup. And the whole Paul coffee like coming back halfway through dynamic. Like we joked about it when the podcast started, I feel like Edmonton's turned into a bit of a soap opera. It feels like it's a Ronald Oilers, the Toronto Oilers stuff. Yeah. This is what I do with stuff. Just don't even worry about it. What's that? This is what I deal with. What do you mean? You're not even a fan anymore. When half of this type of stuff happens in Toronto, this guy's coming, signing on the podcast like, oh, Christmas in July. And then like it's a full blown shit show the exact same way with the Oilers. And then he gets you to come on and do his dirty work. I can't disagree. I don't even get it. I don't even have a staff. I have to deal with this myself internally. Well, I take that. I take that as a compliment. Obviously, I got all you guys should. No, you know what? It's tough, right? Like you see somebody and you know, like we spend a lot of time with Chris over the last three years, you know, as you know, you have a broadcasters availability. Ever coach handles those differently. Now I'm still friends with Todd McClellan. I really like Todd. In fact, Todd interviewed Chris twice. Once in Edmonton and once in LA. You can figure out maybe how that happens, right? So, you know, that happens. Here's my hot take. Toronto Maple Leafs should go get Noblocke. They should get him. They just had a hard nose. Craig, they need, they need some guys who could connect with those players over there. Tell me a better coach available. You just stroke them off or tell me he's the next, he's the next Al Arbor. Let's get him in Toronto. I don't think I quite use that terminology, but I like that. Well, you've got the lotion in the drawer. You might as well. All right, we know you. We appreciate you. Along with the car. I'll leave you with this. I gotta tell you, I gotta tell you. So I had Chris Johnson on yesterday talking about Barubi being fired. I go, is it out of the realm of possible? Craig Barubi is from Calahou, Alberta. Okay. He played on the line. He played on the line with Todd Ewan in, in junior. The only man ever to drop Proby straight out and knock him the blank out and, and Cliff Ronning. Cliff Ronning was the safest man in New Westminster from that team. Like Barubi is from Calahou. And I, I, I sat there and said to Chris, could you imagine if the two head coaches ended up in each other's cities? Would it be the craziest thing? I don't think it's a bad Paul. I don't think it's a bad. I love a white swap. I mean, Toronto and edited a white swap would be a story. Oh, it's like the energy. I do this job for free if that happened. Stop. We appreciate it, buddy. I know you're kind of running around with all the news breaking there. So thank you. You're our guy. You should be there for you. You should interview for the job. Again. Yeah. I mean, not going to lie. Like not a huge fan of Bowman and what he's done there. I would, I would gladly have stuff as my GM. I'm not putting you in weird position. I'll stop that right now. I'll do the job for it for the both of you. Go over to Russia. Go to Locomotive. Get Danny easy. Easy of the gold tender. 26 years old. He'll cover all your problems in the next. Okay. Okay. There we go. All right. Thank you. Nice work, guys. Standing over staff, boys. Standing. Oh, thank you. Thanks, Stoffer. A great guy. Just an amazing call by you. Like, I love talking stuff. I wanted stuff on. But yeah, I had him on to kind of, you know, deal with my dirty work that I knew you were going to bring. And I had a guy who knows what he's talking about and can answer the questions correctly. So you called it. You were back. Unbelievable call by biz. I didn't even put that you were bang on. He does it all the time. He does all of his dirty work. You were bang on. He's your assassin. I didn't want to say with him on, but because I don't want to put him in a tough spot. Like, get rid of Stan Bowman, like get a new GM. Stan Bowman. He might be a great guy. He had him on years ago. He inherited that's that team in Chicago. And I don't, I can't believe he was hired to begin with. And a couple, I mean, Pod Colson was a great move. Ingram was solid, but boys, and I'm not saying the offer sheet stuff was on him. He kind of ate that shit sandwich right as he came in. But boys, like I would have, if I could have chosen a new GM or a new coach, chosen new GM, I think, I think them not bringing back Ken Holland was insane. Insane. And I, and I, and I'll stand by this and I don't know that because I didn't dig is I think the reason that those offer sheets came was because there was already news and he'd caught wind that he wasn't coming back. And there was some shady stuff going on in the background like, oh, I put this, I put this Picasso together and all of a sudden I'm not going to be the guy. They hadn't even, they hadn't even finished the Stanley Cup series yet. I think at that point they might have been down three nothing. And all of a sudden he's, oh, I'm not coming back. Oh, I put this together. When's the last time we've been to the finals here in Edmonton? I know who Edmonton should hire as a GM, two GM's double from Hal Kirk, Alberta, Shane Done and from Edmonton, Alberta, Ray Whitney. Wow. Bring them in. Ray Whitney was a fucking stickboy for the Edmonton Oilers. Shane Done grew up a hardcore Edmonton Oilers fan thought he was going to get drafted by them. They didn't take, bring those two guys in, start this thing off fresh. You think, I think there's a better chance, McDavid stays if Shane and Ray Whitney are there than anyone else. Like that. I love that. Who would their coach be? Who would they hire as the coach? Biz. You know who they should go get? The guy who the Gargoyles just let go. Yeah. How about all three of your teams? They didn't even know his name. We became 0.2% owners of a team. The team then had a really hard year and the coach was fired. So stay hot. There was a lock. There was a, what did, didn't they lock out? The players basically quit in the coast because they were being fed dog food on long bus rides. Yeah. And then Scott Burt was let go and we're at the helm of that one boys. So the heat's on us. We finished dead last, by the way, in the ECHL this year. Only way is up. Oh, just a pack of losers here. And we got another loser coming on next. But before we get to him, we got to talk about Rujiet. 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I was with the guys that HFTV. These guys are great but holy shit, we walked to frigging moose jar and back before we did this post game myth of you they wanted to do. I don't know what the hold up was but I had a good time hanging out with them. Then I met up with the con man at Hurley's. They got friends at Hurley's but crazy thing that happened there was so like I'm going to take a leak right now. I'm a middle-aged fellow. Sometimes our piss is coming a little at the missions we don't necessarily expect and so sometimes I go in the stall because then if there's a line you're waiting to stage fright because you can't piss well but it was kind of quiet in the bathroom. All of a sudden I hear dudes like, hey, what's going on there? Something like I thought might have been a bouncer and I was like, bro, I'm 53, bro. I'm just trying to get a piss off here. He's like, what? I'll come in and fucking smash your head and fucking come. I'm like, what the fuck? What happened to friendly fucking Montreal? I don't know if it's a Hell's Angel. I mean it's sort of a bouncer because a bouncer would have hurt it differently. I know I'm in a stall. I know you can make the obvious joke here. No, I was taking a piss and like now I'm standing there with my fucking schmends on my hand. I'm not sure if the door's going to get kicked in and I'm going to get fucking bundled and you know, car man's out with like eight of his buddies so I'm like, he don't know what I look like. I can't see him so I lean down. I just look between my legs to get a look at the footwear. Kind of take a number so to speak just so when I'm in the bar, if I see those sneakers, I'll recognize that's the idiot who started started you know, trouble. We get it get a piss, you know. So whatever I went outside, nothing didn't see him or whatever. Nothing happened, but it was just kind of weird, man. I just wanted to take a leak and some dude threatened my life just doesn't usually happen here. I thought something was going to happen. Nothing happened. Well, I mean, I got my life threatened while trying to take a piss. I mean, that was kind of unusual. Never happened. Yeah, that's something. Yeah. But the game itself awesome. I got to catch up with knuckles after the first. So so I went down, you know, I had to go down a couple of like lower sections. So it was like, you know, less than a minute left in the period, you know, there's a couple of dude, there's no empty seats in the lowest band, no surprise in Montreal. So I see an empty seat. I'm like, Oh my God, literally 45 seconds left till till the buzzer and I'll go down see Chris and I sit down and you know, people get up with the last whistle before the period and then the guy like leans forward to me and says something in French. You know, I have no idea what he's saying. And the lady behind me goes, he told you you're sitting in Ivan, call me a seat. Whoa, that was the most he wasn't I wasn't I didn't know it was a but I had a one. Do you think I had any idea it was a random load seat? Great seat. By the way, what adult is taking another person's seat? Dude, you know, I did a seat in the seat. Yeah, if you're going to be watching the intro, we're watching the intro of the pregame intro, R.A.'s carrying out the tort. Is that my seat? No, I'm in the upper deck. Okay. If there was a do not sit, I would totally respect that. I was just literally like, all right, there's 30 seconds left. I'm going to meet Chris 50 feet away. I'll catch the last few seconds of the period. Unbeknownst to me, who was the road runner. So my apologies to the road runner. Habs legend. So yeah, I figured he's gonna get to get a kick out of that French guy. And he sees you and you know, whatever the woman said, he said you he said something way worse than the way she drank. Oh, yeah. Imagine he saw his like Boston Bruins boxers hanging out of his pants, too, as they're looking down. Hey, games. What game is it going? Game six. He's in Beliveau's wife's seat. Like he was like, what the fuck's going on here? Like, come on here. It was cheaper. I was a whole week. Stay at the stay in the penthouse for the four seasons. I took a yoga class and I'm going to work a lot of work a lot of fighting with all the Putin I've been eating. But like, obviously the atmosphere unreal. I was up section 315 road jamming not a bad seat nap. I'm not so much was that ticket. All right, I paid a I think with fee three three 19 I think I pay for it. Right. Actually a little bit higher going into the game. So I mean, I saved a couple bucks by getting it a day or two early. That place no shit Sherlock loves Hudson man. Like when they were like announced the lineup, he got the biggest bump out of anybody. And during that that that you know, the allow go then disallowed the defense. Nobody in the building had any clue really what was going on. It was like this huge delay and we started the thing go up to nothing. And then they come back and said it was disallowed. It was just, you know, a lot of confusion, not much of an update inside. Shout out to the ref. Some of them do it. Yeah, got to get on the mic. And you just got to give people the breakdown and say, guys, it was deemed a good goal on the ice. Now we're going for goaltender interference. This is what we're looking for. Be right back in a few minutes. They never explained it. They got it. They got to explain shit to the fans because if you're live in attendance, like people are like, What the fuck's going on here? No, obviously they they already did they play the replay over and over on the board? They showed I think maybe one or two after the call to see the you know, the glove on the net. But not while it's going on. No, but I think people thought it might have been the would I forget what say but cut to kind of cut through the crease. I think people thought it was him and because you did raise a good point earlier that his stick does come in contact with with Doebush's glove. I was a Quinn, I believe Quinn. Like I don't know if that caused it to, you know, to go in. I kind of said he was hilarious. That was the goaltender interference or the guy driving through. Okay. And if I and you know, if that caused them, did he did it not put in position to make the save? I mean, he he sort of did make the save because it went in his glove. But I could see why they overturned it. But either way, you know, it was after the Thompson wacky bounce there, still 2-2, more than half the game left. So, you know, no excuses for to not get the W. Alright, what was the reaction? And were people like, did people not know that that had gone in right away? Like, no, that's not was that's a one in a million. It was so bang bang quick. I mean, that's the game like, I mean, because I was down that end too. And there was zero reaction from anybody that that might have been a been a goal. Because you think I mean, it probably a fraction of a second dobes is, you know, glove on the puck is actually over the goal line. But no, there was zero reaction that that might have actually even been a goal like what like what's usually at usually at home too, like if they think it's a goal, they won't show it on the screen to get the crowd's reaction. Oh, like you're talking about the goalie interference one? Yeah. Yeah. The the the do the dobes one that hit off the the the mooring. The Zamboni like the what? Yeah, wasn't it the Zamboni door? Yeah, Zamboni door mooring. It's like whatever you want to call it. He dobes wasn't even far out of his net. He was basically on the goal line. That's what's even crazier about it. Like he was just sliding. He was just starting to slide across as it was going to go in the other corner. It was just awful timing. Oh, what I heard is that they've told him that on that end to stay in his net to not come out. And that's why he was in there. And funny enough that if he did come out behind the net like he normally does, it might have just skidded right across the crease to the other side. Oh, yeah, because it hit the back of his right right leg of padding went right in. But yeah, that definitely I mean, took the air out of the building but not completely. Like I said, I was like more than half a game left. But yeah, just an awesome unreal atmosphere. I could check that one off the bucket list. And we're telling you, I know they would give a degree for about the playoffs not being so good this year, which I disagree on that sentiment. No, I meant I said the beginning of the second round. Okay, but 87% of games decided by a goal or two goals with an empty net two or more goals with an empty net. That's absolutely insane. Stad, I mean, Merle's good thing on the way goon right now because those puckline Jesus would be killing me right now. If I haven't got too many of the draws are all over the place though. But one more thing on Montreal, any, any, what do they call them show shins the hot dogs? How many hot dogs show them? No, also, so anyways, I when I met con man early in the day, though those boys to get to I landed took the cab. I'm gonna get a two o'clock start. I was like, if there's one thing I don't need is a two o'clock start. So I ran back to the they had a was an Airbnb, but it was like it was right on St. Catharine Street. It's like it's like a loft, but it's like a hotel to it was real cheap that you know, it's just big loft, but like five bedrooms or anyway, so I went back there took a quick nap, show it up. And then went to Hurley's before after the game. And then done's man, I was Jones and I hadn't got my smoke media and there's there's a couple of done's here that awesome like briskets sandwiches open like five in the morning after Hurley's I popped in there stuffed my face. That was my knockout punch went to bed. And then had to be up yesterday to check out of that place and then check into this place. And I stayed in last night, obviously, we had the show today and you know, I watched the game a little tired from the night before. So yeah, it was cheap, cheap and a stay at night. That's the one was saying but it really was it was like $300 more to fly home and as opposed to like $110 for a hotel and a late checkout. So, you know, no brain for me on that end. It's not like my casino stories when I say, Oh yeah, you know, I got the state for free though. That's 500 breaking news here. I just took a phone call. All right, that guy outside the your the bathroom stall. It was corn, Y a good. Yeah, good. Took his fucking seat like Seabass ready to pound your face in for mushing the goddamn Canadians. They I'm texting Gorts right now. They better change that seat out. Get them a new one. Yeah, literally no clue. And I mean, there were five other seats. I could I could have jumped them. But yeah, I got apologies to the road runner that was a little social misfit behavior. But yeah, what are you going to do? I'm just glad I didn't get my face kicked. Then when I was up, I'm taking a piss at freaking earlys. All right, let me ask you. Yeah, I got my picks already out there on game notes yesterday. Another shameless plug by me there. What do you got for picks tonight? Sabres Montreal and then Vegas Ducks. I like Montreal tonight. I think I don't they play I mean, dobes outside that that that top bouncy suffer the other night he played on unreal game that other save he made late was incredible. UPL played pissers while I think it's going to be like a two one, three, two game. Most likely go to overtime, but I'm taking Montreal. They'll come back here with a chance to wrap things up in six and out the coast. I like the Ducks. I think the Ducks, they've been having a hell of a season. I think they easily extend this, I'd say maybe four one tonight, go back to Vegas for a game seven. We haven't had a game seven for a while we'd do so. They saw but also I always butcher that and the Ducks for tonight. Like it like the Ducks pick I am on the Sabres, obviously. I like that game going to OT Merles, that Buffalo Montreal. That's good call. Let's get on it. I'll get on that. I'm on it right now. I know we're wrapping up quick here. A couple last notes. Classic recommend days. I'm not sure I doubt you guys watched Ten and bombs last week. I'm going to give you a two for one this week folks out there. The movie heads are alien and aliens. The second one first one come out 79. Ridley Scott, Harrah Syfy, Awesome Flick and then the Seagull come out 86 by Jim Cameron. More of an action Syfy flick. Merles, you must have seen alien or aliens. No, I was never really big into the Syfy. I know I've come across that at some point. At least really I know for some reason. I'll tell you what I'm hooked on right now because I'm here living alone. I'm waking up weird hours. I throw on Netflix. Is it Harlan Corbin? It's author. They've turned all his books into these shows. It's always like these English actors. They're thrillers. Oh, I'm hooked. I can't stop watching them eat night each night. So Netflix, check those out. All right, boys. Well, great time up here. No plans for any other games, but you know, then things could change for the moment. So flying home in a couple hours, get home for these games tonight. Always great chatting boys and see how things go this weekend, boys. All right. Great story. If I'll pay for your flight and ticket, would you switch it to Buffalo right now? We got a second. Fill up my car with some shell gasoline. I'll drive out there with Wow, I maybe I kicked I don't think I have anything going. You have nothing. Yeah. Like what the fuck are you doing? You can find a flight and then you can find a ticket. You you buy him and then I'll bring the cash over when you get home. I might have a buddy who has a ticket. I'll text him right now. So I just a flight to Buffalo. You have the route for Buffalo, though. You can't wear anything Montreal. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Well, no, I'm saying, what's whoa, whoa, whoa, because I'm flying on a port of from out of Montreal. I can't get a port of flight in Buffalo. You can't be a saberspan all of a sudden. Here's the deal. Here's the deal. They went Montreal. I didn't finish. Okay. Everyone jumped on. You have to wear a Canadians hat and a sabers t shirt. Yeah, you got sitting Pat Lafontaine seat. Yeah, I now that that's a whole whole thing that that just kind of goes against like, I don't know. I know I have a Canadians. I forget. It's all up to you. It's up to you. Just throw it out. There's the show ends. I know, but it would be actually too like because I have to fly from Montreal to Buffalo and Buffalo. So it would actually be two flights. I'm just throwing that out there. Alright, we'll figure all that out. Yeah, let me just check check in whatever I know I just I don't want to say yeah for the and then fucking have to bail out and also alright what would be fun too is is like, we could also send you on a train to get there. That's a fun train ride to do. Trains are the best. Trains are the best. You send you on a first class train ride, you go all the way down to Toronto and then maybe we get your car from Toronto. Oh, no, we could hours a puck drop week. Oh, it's that that too. And there's no direct flights from Montreal to Buffalo. I just looked them up on really on Expedia. I don't know if you got if Porter does that way too. I don't know. Yeah, just hop on John Bellows wife. Yeah, I'm sure she'll be there. Well, there's definitely going to be a game six, but it would be a little more adventurous to do it straight from here. Yeah, let me let me poke around if it's feasible. Yeah, maybe quite so. But I just can't I don't know yet till I see the see the transportation options. But it's fun. It sounds like a fun idea either way. So that'll be awesome. I'll check back off here. But I'll always a blast boys. Enjoy the games tonight. And I'll be in touch in a little bit. Have fun in Buffalo. Thank you. Thank you to everyone for listening. We appreciate it. Shout out, Merle. Shout out, Army. Shout out, Stoff the legend. Thank you guys so much, everyone. We appreciate it. We'll be back to you Monday. Things could all be wrapped up boys and we'll be talking conference finals. Have a great one. Oh, hello, I'm here with Josie, Marineo and Snickers for football's rapid fire on or off your game. Right, Jose, you've got one or two opinions on football. So I want you to tell me whether the following is on or off its game. First up the AR host again, half and half scarves off again. What about backflip celebrations off cutting holes in the back of your socks off off again. What I hate, even the ones without coughs, they do the holes. Snickers, you are off your game when you are hungry. Hello, I'm here with Josie, Marineo and Snickers for football's rapid fire on or off your game. Right, Josie, you've got one or two opinions on football. So I want you to tell me whether the following is on or off its game. First up the AR host again, half and half scarves off again. What about backflip celebrations off cutting holes in the back of your socks off off again. What I hate, even the ones without coughs, they do the holes. Snickers, you are off your game when you are hungry.