Nateland | Ep #289 - The In Between Episode (Revisiting Fairy Tales, Cartoons & School)
156 min
•Jan 28, 20263 months agoSummary
The Nateland Podcast hosts revisit classic fairy tales, cartoons, and school experiences across three generations. They discuss the dark origins of beloved stories like Hansel and Gretel and Little Red Riding Hood, debate the evolution of animation from Looney Tunes to modern shows, and share personal anecdotes about their educational journeys and school culture.
Insights
- Classic fairy tales were originally dark, violent stories written for adults that were later sanitized for children, revealing how cultural values shift over time
- Cartoon preferences are heavily generational, with significant differences in what was available and culturally acceptable across the 1970s-2000s
- School experiences shaped by infrastructure (uniforms, busing, technology) have measurable impacts on student behavior and social dynamics
- The transition from analog to digital learning tools (overhead projectors to smart boards) fundamentally changed classroom engagement and teacher capability
- Nostalgia-driven media consumption reveals gaps in knowledge—many adults haven't revisited childhood media and are surprised by its actual content
Trends
Resurgence of interest in original, unfiltered versions of classic stories and media among adult audiencesGenerational media consumption patterns creating distinct cultural reference points and communication gapsSchool uniform adoption in public education as a solution to socioeconomic inequality and bullyingYear-round school models gaining traction as research suggests summer breaks harm academic retentionDigital transformation of standardized testing (SAT moving to digital format) changing assessment accessibilityNostalgia marketing leveraging childhood media properties for adult audiences (reboots, remakes, streaming revivals)Shift from passive media consumption (scheduled TV) to active curation (streaming, on-demand)Growing concern about smartphone integration in schools and its impact on classroom dynamics and student focus
Topics
Fairy Tale Origins and SanitizationCartoon Animation History and EvolutionSchool Uniforms and Socioeconomic EqualityGenerational Media Consumption PatternsYear-Round School Calendar ModelsStandardized Testing ModernizationSchool Infrastructure and Student ExperienceClassroom Technology IntegrationNostalgia and Adult Media ConsumptionSchool Bus Safety and OperationsForeign Language Education in High SchoolsAcademic Retention and Summer BreaksSmartphone Use in Educational SettingsSchool Lunch Programs and Student NutritionExtracurricular Activities and Student Development
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People
Charles Perrault
17th-century author who wrote Tales of Mother Goose (1697), establishing foundational fairy tale canon
Aesop
Ancient Greek slave and storyteller credited with fables like 'Tortoise and the Hare' and 'Boy Who Cried Wolf'
Mike Judge
Animator and creator of King of the Hill and Beavis and Butthead, praised for distinctive animation style
Lee Greenwood
Country music artist known for 'God Bless the USA,' which experienced resurgence after 9/11
Greg Garcia
Writer who worked on Family Guy and was on the road with the podcast hosts
Dolph Lundgren
Actor who starred in live-action Masters of the Universe film adaptation
Courtney Cox
Actress featured in early film role in Masters of the Universe live-action movie
Quotes
"These are so dark. Yeah, what is that? The three little Germans walking through the forest."
Brian Bates
"I think this is a story about art and how art gives us perspective in life. These people are these fairies are just plowing through life working hard right, they're not looking up at all."
Aaron Weber
"I love a story that ends with the main character taking a nap. That's just good storytelling right there."
Nate Bargatze
"Well, I think it's, you know, they kind of loosely based it on Christianity and the Bible, right? So it's like, yeah, it's like, you know, you make up some stuff, but were there ogres? Probably."
Dusty Slay
"I think we should be learning really practical things like so that when we get out of school, we know how to do stuff. Like people don't know how to pay bills. They don't know how to balance checkbooks."
Aaron Weber
Full Transcript
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But the snowpocalypse came in and just turned Nashville into just an ice filled, probably beautiful, but an ice filled landscape. Hey, everybody. If I look more worried than even normal, it's because we have no electricity at our house. and I'm in a hotel room with my wife, three-year-old daughter, and our yappy dog. My wife and daughter went down to the lobby. My dog's still here. But anyway, yeah, we're probably going to be without power for a while. Nashville is pretty much shut down. At the time of recording this, I think there's still about, you know, hundreds of thousands of people without power around the city. So we were unable to get into the studio. today and record and because Brian couldn't figure out Zoom, this is the best that we can do. Personally, we got very lucky, my wife and I. We never lost power the whole time, which I'm learning was pretty rare. So we're pretty grateful for that. I got to be honest, I was in San Diego this weekend. So I kind of had the opposite experience as most people that were in Nashville. I got back yesterday, and it doesn't look like this ice is going to melt anytime soon. So hopefully things get better soon, and I hope you and your family are doing okay. And I was up in Cleveland. I sent my family down to Alabama. So I flew to Atlanta. My mom picked me up, and now I'm in Alabama. And it's a beautiful sunny day. Alabama is always beautiful. So I'm here and we can't do the first episode of the podcast today. And I'm sorry about that. I hate that. So unfortunately, I'm bummed that we're not going to get to do a podcast this week. Our first podcast, Public Figures podcast. But Nashville is just, you know, it's just not good here right now. But hopefully we'll get power back soon. And we're going to have a great episode this week, a classic of me and Aaron Dusty. so it's still going to be great still going to be fun just so you can get a taste for what the Public Figures Podcast is going to be and we're excited to get in there and get things going you know without Nate starting our own thing so we hope you enjoy a trip down memory lane and we're so excited to get started next week with the Public Figures Podcast thank you and then we'll be coming at you next week with the Public Figures Podcast we're having a good time stay warm, stay safe you know we're going to have to come up with our own new catchphrases here that's what I'm realizing live and in the moment so enjoyed this episode, hope you're doing well appreciate you Okay, welcome, ladies and gentlemen, to the Nate Land Podcast. I'm here with Brian Bates, as always. I'm here with Aaron Weber, as well. These guys are two of my best friends, and I'm just happy to be here with them. This week, you know, a few weeks ago, Dusty broke down Pinocchio, and people loved it. So I'm like, let's expand a little bit. The top two movies right now, do you know what they are? No idea. I can see it on the sheet in front of you. Oh, Moana 2 and Wicked. Okay. Both, I would say, to some degree, are fairy tales, especially Wicked, right? Well, what is a fairy tale? Fairy tale is a broad definition, but generally there's fairy tales, there's folk tales, there's fables. Okay. Fables generally have a message. It's usually an animal that has human characteristics And there's a lesson to be learned in it Like a parable? Like where there's something you're supposed to take away from it? Yeah, like the tortoise and the hare That's a fable Folk tales are stories that While made up There might be some truth to To the point where Dusty probably believes them Paul Bunyan, Johnny Appleseed Yeah, John Henry It's probably true. Yeah, I mean, all these things are probably based in truth. I don't believe anybody, any of these imaginations out here. You don't think anybody makes something up entirely? No. What do you think Lord of the Rings is based on? Well, I think it's, you know, they kind of loosely based it on Christianity and the Bible, right? So it's like, yeah, it's like, you know, you make up some stuff, but were there ogres? Probably. But, you know what I mean? John Henry, John Henry was a real person. Most likely. But the story was that he was a still-driving man. He battled the machine to see who could be better. He won. He died in the process. None of that's probably true. Yeah. Probably is. Okay. And then Paul Bonio was probably real, too. A lumberjack. Probably. Big blue ox. Yeah. So folktales are exaggerated. Like George Washington cutting down a cherry tree. That never happened. I guess that would be a folktale. But it's based on a real person. Why do we think it didn't happen? Because I think, didn't we talk about this on the podcast? I don't think it was 36 years ago. It was really that big. No, it was just, I think somebody admitted they made it up as just a device to. To prove the point, I cannot tell a lie. Yeah, to. So you would lie to make a story about not lying? Yeah. But is that really lying or is that just, is that lying? If you told me that George Washington cut down a cherry tree and he didn't. But what's the point of that story? That George Washington would always tell the truth. That George Washington was a virtuous man who prioritized telling the truth. Yeah. So that's the takeaway. Over eating cherries. Right. Right. It's not about the cherries. It could be like a tree. Maybe it was during his campaign they make this, build this story to build his image. Yeah, or something, you know, somebody trying to, I think it's somebody trying to sell a biography about him after the fact. To prove he never told a lie, we're going to tell a lie in his behalf. But is that really a lie? That's my point. That's right. Or what was the cherry tree, an analogy for something else? I think it's just, doesn't that have a little more than like apple tree? Someone just said the cherry tree sound. A little pop to it. Nativity scene. Nativity scene. Okay. Typical nativity scene. I made a point recently. The wise men were not there when Jesus was a baby. It had come like a month later, right? It could have been years later. Yeah, yeah. But someone argues to me, the point of this painting that we were talking about is to show that everyone came to real life. Otherwise, don't take it so literal as what the person was telling you. Sure. What if it was just there was just three guys that happened to be there, and everybody's like, those are the wise men. They're like, no, no, no, we're just, you know, we're around, you know. There's a lot of hoopla. We wanted to see what was going on over here. We're not that smart, really. Don't call us wise. We want to check it out. But it's like, yeah, we're not the wise men, but we were there. And then the wise men come later. Yeah. And then we're the wise men. Yeah. No, no, no, no, no, no. They've already been here. And then fairy tales generally very often have a fairy or a witch or some type of magic involved. Something supernatural. Supernatural that's tricking you. There's usually the mom's gone, dead. There's an evil stepmother. Very often they have a very similar fairy tales because very often there's fairies involved. Okay. Which some people believe are also real. At this table. Fairies. so i don't know if we'll get in any that dusty doesn't think actually happened but um uh but anyway i do i did bring a story that i'd like to read all right okay do you may do it now well i don't know what it is the right time yeah it's called um flora's magic flute okay this is a story i read to my daughter and i want to read it to you guys because there's a bit of a hole in the story here okay how long is it it's not very long okay 14 pages now No, it's not very long. Long ago, deep in the woods, a tiny village of fairies lived in peace, including a fairy girl named Flora. I think we can all believe that. Yeah. For as long. Now, this is an important detail. For as long as the fairies could remember, every day had been clear and sunny. Okay. Flora played music on her magic flute and all day the fairies danced and sang. but then one day the sky grew dark and it began to rain soon the fairy village was muddy and gray everyone in the village was sad would the sun ever return they said then flora remembered how happy everyone had been when she played her flute on sunny days could her music make them feel happy now she took out her flute and began to play all right here we go okay flora's music made the other fairies remember now keep made the other fairies remember that after the last rain okay let's go back let's go back uh uh here we go let's go back for as long as the fairies could remember every day had been clear and sunny here we go and it made the fairies remember that after the last rain the trees and flowers had become even prettier than before so they all danced and splashed in the rain to celebrate the beauty that was to come so this is talking about some kind of uh some kind of village where they forget everything they have they can't remember anything because for as long as they could remember every day had been clear and sunny right then one day darkness came flora played the flute wow now there's no talk of the flute being And magic, it's called magic, but it's just a flute. It's called a magic flute, but they never mentioned it being magic in the story. Oh, but they can't remember anything. Every day is bright and sunny. Then she plays the flute, and suddenly they're like, oh, we remember after the last rain. Wow. Well, every day had been clear and sunny. So what last rain? You don't think music can be? Mic drop. Let's see that book. Okay. Flora's Magic Flute, written by Stephen Hall, illustrated by Jennifer Bartlett. I'm trying to teach my kids to observe things. I mean, I want to collect all four of these. Griff learns to fly, Augie the grump, and scuttles diamonds. Yeah. This is the – What are you reading to your daughter? I'm reading just black and white pictures at this point. You're reading philosophy. Yeah. No, I'm not reading Aristotle just yet, but it's just like a little book with a mirror in it and that kind of stuff. Oh, yeah. She's just starting to smile, which is pretty fun. Oh, that's fun. Pretty fun. That is fun. Pretty fun to get like a real, not just a I'm farting smile, but like a real I'm looking at you and smiling. That's pretty fun. This book, you don't think music can be transformative like that, Dusty? I do, but my whole problem with it is that these fairies were like, it's never rained before. before but then the moment flora started playing the flute they were like oh we remember the last ring i think this is a story about art and how art gives us perspective in life these people are these fairies are just plowing through life working hard right they're not looking up at all and they're so bogged down with the minutiae and the reality of everyday life that they get depressed right and then an artist comes along and goes no zoom out a little bit there is beauty in the world yeah good things are coming and they go oh and that's what art can do to people and also like wake up don't you remember it's rained before i don't think it has quite that energy yeah wake up you idiots yeah you remember things it rains sometimes how do you think we're growing all these mushrooms mushrooms don't grow without moisture and a little bit of darkness This reminds me of a When I was a kid Looks like the Smurfs When I was a kid we read a book at school About A place where it rained every day Especially that Seattle The kids never had seen a day where it hadn't rained So they always had to be indoors They locked one of their kids They bullied him, put him in the closet Just to mess with him One day Is this a folktale? The same day. This is from Brian's journal. Finally. I wrote it while I was in the closet. This could be some truth to it. Finally, it stops raining, and the kids get to go out and enjoy the sunshine for the very first time in their life. When they finally come in at the end of the day, they realize, oh, yeah, we'd locked that kid in the closet, and he didn't get to experience. Wow. It's kind of a dark... And what a loser he is. You didn't even see the sun. Is that the point of the story? I don't know. I just remember reading it as a kid. It haunted me. What's the turn at the end? Did something happen? I mean, I think they felt maybe a little bad. And then they found out that kid was blind. Maybe the turn is they all decide, let's not even tell him that we saw the sun. Maybe. And then it's like he never missed out on it. If he doesn't know that it happened. It'd be something fun there. I'm subjecting my daughter to Christmas shows that I watched as a kid. Yeah. And I've made a – Bonanza. A Bonanza Christmas. I do like Bonanza. Yeah, me too. It's a good show. Hoss. My grandpa. Hoss, Little Joe. And Gunsmoke is good. Yeah. Gunsmoke's good, yeah. Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer, which I had her watch last night. It was a little much for her. They have an abominable snowman. Yeah, I remember. Yeah, that part's a little scary. She didn't like it. But then Frosty the Snowman. She's really gotten into Frosty the Snowman. She wants to watch it over and over and over again. And I don't know if you remember. Particularly the part where he's in the greenhouse. That's what I'm getting at. Okay, sorry. I don't know how much you remember it. I don't remember that. Basically, there's an evil magician who wants the hat back because that's what's making him come to life. So the hat is what animates Frosty the Snowman. The hat never belonged to Frosty, to be honest with you. I don't know if this magician was evil or not. He's like, I just want my hat back. Well, they try to make it clear that he threw the hat away and discarded it, and that they claimed it. But they're out in the snow trying to get to North Pole to warm the little girl up. They go into a greenhouse, and then the magician shuts the door and locks him in there. Oh, my gosh. So then Santa Claus shows up and goes in, and there's just that little girl in a puddle of water, and she's crying because Frosty has melted. And Santa's like, don't worry. It's Christmas snow. We'll bring it back to life. And they do, of course, bring it back to life. But the trauma, the girl went through watching her best friend slowly melt away. He's talking to her. You don't see that, of course, but I just like, that girl's going to need some counseling. Oh, yeah. And all the kids watching it, right? Well, it was just, you mean watching the show? Yeah. Yeah, you don't see him melt. You just see the full of water. And it can't be the same Frosty. You just can't make new snow and put it on his head and it be the same guy. They're just going to have to refreeze the water that melted. Which is kind of what they did. It kind of like zipped out the door and spun and become Frosty again. Okay. Still with the hat? Well, they had to put the hat back on. The magician still was claiming it, but Santa told him he's not going to get any presents. Let's see. I don't know if I know the story of Frosty the Snowman. This girl made a snowman, and then the hat got put on it. But when we put it on his head, he began to dance around. Frosty the Snowman. You know that song? I know the song. It was a jolly, jolly, dude. Yeah. I don't know the lyrics that well. The song came first. Oh, okay. The song came first. One of Elvis' songs. Then they made an animated show. Same with Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer. Gene Autry sang them. Whoa. I didn't know that. The song came before the show. Did the song invent the entire or the first to tell the story? I think so, maybe. Wow. You know, there's a song where he says, what is it, where he says, we'll pretend like, oh dang uh we'll we'll talking about the snowman and then they go we'll pretend they say we'll pretend that he is parson brown which is like a preacher or whatever or somebody that can marry you no and it says we'll pretend that he is parson brown he'll say are you married we'll say no man but you can do the job when you're in town you know that song you guys know that song what song I think it's Frosty the Snowman. Yeah, that's like verse 7. I've never gone that deep in the song. I think you're right, but that's not, they don't do that part on the show. He does say that, but I thought, I didn't know what Parson Brown was. I thought they were saying marching proud. We'll pretend that he is marching proud, and he'll say, are you married? We'll say no, man. I was like, are they going to marry Frosty the Snowman? And I think this is actually from the song Winter Wonderland. Yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah. Not Frosty the Snowman. Yeah, my bad. But they all blend together. But yeah, we'll pretend. See the line, though? Parson is actually another word for a clergyman, especially a Protestant pastor. The word has gone largely unused since around 1980. But apparently he could marry people. But I just thought he said marching proud, not Parson Brown. And then they said, he'll say, are you married? We'll say no, man. But you can do the job when you're in town. I thought they were marrying the snowman. Oh, I see. That's Walking in a Winterland? That's the song? Winter Wonderland. I don't know if they're walking in it. Yeah. Got him confused. Okay. This is a different guy than Jack Frost, huh? Frosty Snowman is a different guy. Yeah, because we looked up last night because she's really into it. There's a Frosty 2. Global warming. The antagonist is Jack Frost. What about the Santa Claus 3? You know that one? That's also Jack Frost. He's battling Martin Short as Jack Frost. They're battling? Yeah. So Jack Frost is the villain? Yeah, in Santa Claus 3. I thought Jack Frost was a good guy. The Santa Claus. I did too. There's like a... C-L-A-W-S? No, like a... Clause? Like a clause in a contract. But that's spelled the same. Maybe just the E. Yeah. Yeah, okay. All right. Do you ever leave the doctor's office and feel like you got nothing from it? Yes. They usually just tell me to drink more water. They actually tell me to do a lot more, but that's the easiest one, so that's the only one I'll even think about doing. No real answers or game plans. This is the reason I love Superpower. Superpower sends a licensed professional to your home, or you can visit a nearby lab. It's one simple blood draw with over 100 biomarkers, which is way more than what you usually get, and it unlocks a real understanding of your body as you head into the new year. 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Head to superpower.com and use code NATE at checkout for $20 off your membership. After you sign up, they'll ask how you heard about them. Be honest. Tell them that we sent you away. Mention this podcast to support this show. And now back to the episode. All right. So fairytales started back even before people were writing. They were doing oral stories and passed it down. And then 1600s, Charles Peralt. Something funny, guys? Sometimes you've got to clear your throat. I don't know. I don't know. I just caught Dusty's eye. Charles Brault wrote Tales of Mother Goose. This is in 1697. It had Little Red Riding Hood, Tom Thumb, Cinderella, Puss in Boots, some classics. Oh, man. The way these old books, what they call cats, is too much. Yeah, I don't like it. I'm trying to read these things and what they call chickens and even a horse. There's one nursery rhyme I'm reading with what they call a horse, basically a male rooster plus horse. And I'm like, to Banbury Bush, riding the blank horse to Banbury Bush. I'm like, I don't think so. Not in this house, we're not. That's crazy. Wait till you start reading Mark Twain. A lot of these fairy tales are very dark. Many of the classic ones are incredibly dark, and they were written for adults. Okay. And then later, they were kind of sanitized for children to some degree. But some of these are incredibly – This old man, he played too. He played knick-knack on a shoe. That's apparently about like the Irish potato family. Knick-knack, paddy-whack, give a dog a bone. This old man came rolling. Yeah, that'd be a nursery rhyme. Yeah, it's apparently – is that not what we're doing? We are. Apparently. We haven't even gotten to nursery rhymes yet. Okay. But that's about the Irish famine, I think. The potato famine. Like people coming for food. Wow. But giving him a bone. The knock on the door, give me a bone, and they go, we can't because all we have is potatoes. Yeah, something like that. Yeah. Yeah. So Aesop's fables. Aesop. Yeah. Heard of Aesop, right? Yeah, Aesop did it, man. Yeah, his collection of fables credited Aesop, a slave and storyteller who lived in ancient Greece. What's some of his fables? Boy Who Cried Wolf. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that stood the test of time. Yeah, it did. Tortoise and the Hare. Oh, tortoise and the hare. You know what bothers me about tortoise and the hare? Because they're constantly, all they ever talk about in every fairy tale is how slow the turtle is. Yeah. It's like, cut the guy some slack. Well, he wins in the end. That's the point. Yeah, but it's like, they're always just, oh, he's so slow. And it's like, the idea of that story is to tell us that the tortoise can beat the hare if he's slow and steady. But the reality is, the hare's beating you every time. The hair's going to beat you every time Well clearly not You find a different race Don't try to race the hair Race other tortoises Because you're never going to beat the hair This is you swimming You're going to be ahead of Danielle And then you're going to start feeling cocky And you're going to slow down This is just like we saw in the football game with the Titans Leon Lett Famously in the Super Bowl Remember that? He slowed down He wasn't much of a hair but Don Beebe snuck up behind him and knocked the ball loose. Yeah. I'm looking at a list of Aesop's fables. He's never going to beat the hare. We know about tortoise and the hare, but a lot of these have been forgotten over time. Let's get a couple. The wolf and the lamb. How about the monkey and the camel? What is that about? Well, I would think the monkey thought he didn't need water, and the camel was like, I have it in my back at all times. The moral of this is do not try to ape your betters. What does that mean? I don't know. What a reach that is. Well, the camel carries a lot of water in his back. There's a lot going on here at the club. I don't know if you hear that. I think there's some kind of theater troupe out there performing. There's a much different energy out there. I'll tell you something about Aesop. All except for the peacock. He loves the the and the the. The blank and blank. The wolf in his shadow. The travelers in the three. The Frogs Who Wished for a King. Let's get into that. What about the blank and the jewel? These are so much longer. But this one, they reduce it down to the moral, which is nice. So, The Frog Who Wished for a King, the moral of that is, be sure you can better your condition before you seek to change. Jeez, that doesn't... Or how about... Here's some classic words. You've got to change to better your condition. The goose that laid the golden egg. That's an Aesop fable. Okay. Do you guys know that? Not really. Yeah, I mean, it was a goose. Kind of a clunky title. Couldn't lay any eggs. And then one day laid a golden egg. And then the king came along and wanted to eat the egg because he's like, I got a lot of gold. This doesn't really mean anything to me. What I need right now is an egg. No. None of that's correct. I was buying it for a while I was so convinced I don't really know what the point of this is There's a man and his wife that had a hand that laid a golden egg Every day Actual gold Yeah the egg was made of gold Not just the color gold It's an egg of gold Yeah yeah yeah Chain It's an egg And they got greedy and said Well I mean she must be full of gold inside so they killed her to cut her open to get the gold and this story is about the dumbest people the point is not to be greedy yeah and use your brain a little bit wow that's so dumb dumbest people i've ever heard of and for two years straight this chicken is make it the best. You better kill the chicken. Let's cut it open. Let's not even try to. What would be that a modern day equivalent of? The dog and the bone. Me killing Nate. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Trying to cut Nate open. Be like, Nate's given a lot of opportunities. He must be full of opportunities. Let's cut him open. Let's steal his wallet. Yeah. Let's grab him. The, I think it would be similar to the, you know, the dog bone where the dog's holding the bone and he's looking over the river. Right. And the river, he looks in and sees his reflection. And in that, the bone is much bigger. So he drops the bone to get the bigger bone. But it's actually just a reflection. But that's a dog. So you understand why he would think that. Except for the dog holding that bigger bone must be bigger, too. So it's like, are you really thinking about to take it from the bone? I don't even know that. I don't even think it was bigger, right? I just think he saw another bone. He's like, I want that one too. And this one's moving a little bit. Yeah. Because it's in the river. Yeah. But this is a couple who owns a farm. Yep. I imagine they pay taxes. Like, they run an operation. They're too smart to, there's no excuse. Even just look at the mass. You're seeing this egg. How many eggs could possibly be inside the goose? I know. Even if the goose was just full of the eggs, how many could possibly be in there? Just let it keep turning them out. The Lion and the Mouse? I don't know that one. It's about a lion who got a new computer and had a lot of trouble with the mouse. The lion gets mad at the mouse for waking him up. The mouse begs for forgiveness and basically says, it would be no honor for you to kill a little mouse like me. Maybe someday I could help you in return. And the lion's like, yeah, right, whatever. I'll let you go. They're out of mercy. And then the lion, I think there's different versions, gets caught in a rope, and the mouse bites the rope part and saves the lion. Wow. So I guess, I don't know what the message is, but even little people. Even if somebody keeps waking you up Let them live That's the message That is the message Do not murder Over small inconveniences Don't kill a mouse You never know what they'll do for you in the end Hansel and Gretel's so dark Yeah what is that So Hansel and Gretel they're leaving bread in the forest Or something What is Hansel and Gretel all about I think they find a house made of So it's two little Germans walking through the forest. Yeah. And they're leaving bread behind them. And they got lost. And they, why did, but I think. A bird came along and was eating the bread. Is that? They were dropping, yeah. Is that true? Yeah. I had to look the story up last night. Why? Because I couldn't remember. The stepmom told the dad, get rid of these kids. So he took them out in the woods to get rid of them. Oh, my God. But the dad. Wait, well, hold on. Don't breeze past that. I mean, it gets much worse. Okay. It's a story about a weak man, first off. You get rid of the stepmom. Just get rid of her. Well, he clearly doesn't care about the kids either. He goes, all right, I'll take them out to the woods and just leave them out there. He didn't like it, but he had to do what his wife said. Oh, my God. He didn't have to if he were a stronger man. Why did she want the kids gone? Were the kids bad kids? Were they misbehaving? She wanted some peace and quiet. I mean, I love my wife, but if she were like, take the kids to the woods and leave them, I'd go, how about we just, we're going to leave. I'm calling immigration. Yeah. She's a citizen now. There's nothing I can do. Sorry, Anna. So the kids figured it out. They overhear the plan. So the first, the kids are old enough to understand. How old are they? Well, I don't know. They're old enough to understand. Honestly, they're probably old enough to be out of the house. 32 and 30 that's a that's a thing that Hanzo and Gretel gets left out a lot that's the message they did need to get out of that yeah it was tied he voted in four elections they're like stepbrothers okay so I thought they were like toddlers as it goes along you start to side with the stepmom yeah yeah they're probably nine or ten I'm guessing yeah okay yeah and they get wind of So they have these pebbles that they drop along the way. And the kids are Hansel and Grimmel. Yeah, they drop along the way. And he drops them off. And that helps them get back to the house because they follow the pebbles back. The stepmom says, do it again. And he's like, okay. And this time they take breadcrumbs, but the plan doesn't work because the birds come and eat it. So now they're out there in the woods. They find a house made of candy, right? Cake and stuff like that. Yeah, and they're like, we've hit the jackpot. We're glad we're lost. But it's really an evil witch who wants to eat them. Sister to the stepmom. Wants to eat them. Wants to eat them. She has to fatten Hansel up first. So she holds him hostage to fatten him up before she eats him. The girls are, the girl, Gretel's already good to go. Yeah, I mean, her name's Gretel. You can imagine what she looks like. Yeah, okay, okay. Yeah. I don't know, but she's fattening Hansel up, and then bottom line is Gretel tricks the witch and like, hey, what's in the stove or something like that, and then she pushes her into the oven and kills her. Gretel does, yeah. And then they head back to the house to the same to the stepmom. They escape with the witch's treasure, so. Oh, she had treasure there. I guess, yeah. Why don't they just stay in the candy house rather than go back to the family that just tried to murder them? Yeah, that's a good point. That's what I would think they would do. But maybe the cops will come around going, where's that witch? These fat kids are eating on a cake. They've got no roof on the house anymore because they're eating the cake. Houses of the Golden Goose, and they're up there eating it. Gretel, I told you, don't eat the roof. We need that. Eating the support beans up there. Sleeping Beauty and Snow White I couldn't have told you the difference Do you know? I mean I know now because I've looked They're very similar I mean is the dwarves, is that the difference? That's Snow White Sleeping Beauty is just no dwarves? No comic relief? Snow White I mean she was asleep but she was poisoned So they thought she was dead She's poisoned by whom? There's always a witch There's always an evil witch I've been telling you guys that since I joined the podcast Even before that This is finally a come around Yeah Now everybody's like Witches are good Oh I guess it was a queen I'm a good witch In this case it was a queen And then once they find out what's going on The prince who saves Snow White Makes the queen wear red hot iron slippers To dance with them until she drops dead Wow well that's insane. Little Red Riding Hood, I mean, again, the wolf, you know, shows up, swallows Grandma whole, then Little Red Riding Hood shows up, swallows her whole. And that's the end. In the original version, yeah, then he takes a nap. Then, they sanitize a little bit, and the next better version is people come to save them, cut the wolf open, Grandma and Little Red Riding Hood are fine. They're just stuck in there. They're just hanging out. Yeah, like a bullock. Wolf's got poor digestion. Yeah. And then they put rocks in the wolf so he can't move. And then there's much more sanitized versions. Okay. But these are so dark. Yeah. What's the moral of the story when the wolf just eats them both? Keep an eye out for wolves. I don't know. I do like that. I'll be honest with you, though. I like it. Let's put some fear into people because they need to be paying attention. I love a story that ends with the main character taking a nap. That's just good storytelling right there. Well, Disney kind of came and made these much more palatable, but I think that probably was like the 90s on. So I was already in college and then working. So most of these stories, I don't really know that well. You never caught the modern version? I want to know what the three little pigs really were. I mean, no, what is it? The three little bears. Goldilocks and the three bears or whatever? Yeah, Goldilocks. What really happened there? What's the true story of that? Goldilocks is dead. That bear came back. She's dead. And they tore her up. Hey, Bear. One of my favorite books as a kid was called, I think it was called, like, The True Story of the Three Little Pigs, and it was from the wolf's perspective. It was like sympathetic to him Oh yeah That was great The illustrations were great I tried to make a joke one time about the three little pigs was talking about like living in a trailer You know, and it's like, and the wolf is a tornado. And if you spend your time playing around instead of getting a proper brick home, the tornado is going to get you. Never wrote that about it. What about Humpty Dumpty? I'm still working on that. That joke. People say Humpty Dumpty was a cannon or whatever, and that kind of ruins the joke. Humpty Dumpty was a cannon? Yeah. What does that mean? I thought he was an egg. I know. He's an egg in the thing. But I posted a clip of the video one time, and everybody's like, oh, he's a cannon. He was a cannon. I'm like, listen, try to just hear the joke. I'm not really seeking answers. Yeah, you shouldn't let that deter you. Everybody thinks he's an egg. Yeah, look at him. Well, I'm starting to get why somebody pushed him off the brick wall. Yeah, I mean, put some pants on. Well, that's not how normally you're dancing up there. Hey, can you quiet down for a little bit? And he's just twirling his baton. Humpty dumpty, stand on the wall. He's like, it's 2025, guys. Come on. Yes, I will continue to dance. And then they just kick him off. Yeah, I mean, that guy. Send the horses. All the king's horses. Yeah. And all the king's men. I don't even think the men got down from the horses. Can you do it? Nah, I can't reach. Can't reach. Oh, Humpty. Beautiful legs, though, huh? Tone. Tone. Jack and the Beanstalk? Okay. That's true. That is a true one. I do believe that. That there is another, you know, kind of layer above us where giants live. And Jack. Above us? Above us, yeah. Like where? Why can't we see it? Past the firmament. Oh, okay. And you get up there through a vegetable. Well, however you can get there. And who are they? Jack. Well, they're, you know, they're giants and cannibals. Well, Jack and the Beanstalk, do you know the story, Aaron? Let's just move on. He buys some magic beans. He buys some magic beans. When he should have got food, I think. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. Because his mom was like, go get food for the family. I think so. And he bought magic beans instead. Yep. A little bit on the mom for making the kid go buy the groceries. Clearly, Jack is not capable of just getting the groceries. Is this the same guy who jumped over a candlestick? I think it's the same guy that killed the golden goose. Okay. So this guy. Jack when he grew up. Jack gets around. Jack gets around. Jack gets in a lot of trouble. Yeah. He buys a magic beans. Jack be nimble. From a witch, probably. Yeah. A witch probably sold it to him. Sure. I would think, yeah. But the real magic beans, they sprout an enormous beanstalk. Yep. Probably putting out lots of beans. Which Jack climbs, and it takes him to... He doesn't have to climb it. He doesn't have to. He's just putting out a lot of beans. He's just got nothing to do. Yeah. So he climbs it. You want to climb it to see what's up there? And there's a castle up there. This is where Fee-Fi-Foe-Fum comes from. Yeah. I smell the blood of an Englishman. Yeah, so that he's English. Yep. So, okay. Gets up there. That's where the giant lives. Right. Giant's not home. His wife's home. Jack's like, I'll stay for a minute. Is this real? Yeah, this is real. And he's like. He just hangs out with the Giant's wife. I'm hungry, he said. And she gives him some food. And then the Giant comes home. Fee-fi-fo-fum. He hides. And the wife's like, no, there's no. You're crazy. There's not here. And the Giant's like, all right, whatever. I'll go to sleep. Jack leaves. Goes home. Comes back up to Stalk later again to see his wife, I guess. Jack's got a crush. That's where the Jack be nimble, Jack be quick. He's up there in the giant jumping over the candlestick. Yeah. Yeah. And I think eventually the giant wakes up. This keeps happening. The giant wakes up, chases him down. He keeps smelling him the whole time. I smell the blood. Yeah, he smells it. Okay. And he's like, I guess I'm crazy. Where's the giant going every day? To work. To work. To work. Everyday life up there. Yeah. In the sky realm. Long commute. Yeah. And then eventually he chases him down, but Jack gets down. I think he cuts down the beanstalk, kills the giant. I guess his wife, too. So the giant's on the beanstalk, and he cuts it down. He falls, creating the Grand Canyon. The cloud realm is not held up by the beanstalk. No, no, no. The beanstalk is just a pathway there. Okay. Well, of course there's a cloud realm. Mario showed us that. Well, I'm just saying in this story. Okay. No cloud realm. Right, right, right. well what was up there then just a castle just the top of the beanstalk that's where he lived but the well it had to be more I guess if he's leaving yeah I mean it had to be there before the beanstalk there's a whole economy up there the beanstalk was just the way to get there yeah it was just the portal it was already there oh I see I envisioned him the top of the beanstalk is where the house was it was on top of the beanstalk No, no, this was just a pathway there. The pathway. There's a whole city there. Yeah, don't be silly. There's – All right, we'll do a couple more. Yeah. All right, if you hear a fairy tale story, a modern-day fairy tale story, you know kind of what that means, right? You and Lucy, the power couple. Oh, a modern-day fairy – like a storybook. Storybook, yeah. Storybook romance, whatever, something like that. A Cinderella story. They all kind of mean the same thing. Cinderella story, when Cinderella story is used in sports now, it's the... Rags to riches. It's the team that has zero chance that everybody writes off. Just like Cinderella. Is that really what's... I thought Cinderella was just like she... They lose a shoe. Yeah, what is even Cinderella? She was ugly or something? She wasn't ugly. She put on a shoe and she became... She became the princess. I guess she didn't get hot on that. But does she have the stepsisters and they're real mean to her? Evil stepsisters. Evil stepsisters. And then they go to the ball. But there's no beast. No. This is not Beauty and the Beast. I think the beast is the sisters. Oh. And then she gets the carriage made out of a pumpkin. But then after midnight, things turn back and she lost her slipper. There's a lesson in there that good things don't typically happen after midnight. Right. But also, if you leave a little something behind with the person that you have an interest in. That's a reason to come back. They'll come find you. So if you're ever into a girl and you want to see her again, leave some stuff over there. So you can call and go, oh, I left my phone charger over there. I need to come get it. That's what George Costanza Seinfeld. He says, I always do a leave behind. Yeah. Leave behind. And then he has a reason to go over there. Thanks for holding on to this charger for me. Do you want to hook up while I'm here? You know what else needs charging? My ego. Three blind mice. That's a good one. Cut off his tail with a carving knife. You ever see such a thing in your life? Two little mice in a bucket of milk. What was that? Catch me if you can. Remember that? There's two little mice in a bucket of milk. And one of them turned so hard that he turned it into butter. You know what I'm talking about? No. I have no idea. You'll ever see Catch Me If You Can? Leonardo DiCaprio? Yeah. 20 years ago? There's two little blind mice stuck in a pile of milk. It's a good film. I like your Christopher Walken here. 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Oh. So I don't know how you guys want to – 50, okay. I don't know how you guys want to start this, but I don't know if we just want to deep dive into this or – Well, I like the idea. I think maybe we should do our own list first. Okay. And then see where they rank up. Yeah. Now – Dusty pointed out that we're three different generations. I don't know if that's – like 10 years probably isn't a generation, but we got – But enough that our cartoons are different. Well, us three in particular, right? Like you're what? 31? 32, yeah. All right, I'm 42 this year. Wow. Next week, right? Yeah, the 18th of May. Yeah. 52. 32, 42. Right. So we're just... Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was perfect. Keep going. So even though these are not just separate generations, that's enough that we all watched different shows growing up. But when did you guys watch cartoons? Was it Saturday morning cartoons? Like, how did you consume these things as children? Well, Saturday mornings was a big deal. Yeah. But also there was Nickelodeon for me, which was big. And as a kid, and I don't know where some of these were at. I'm going to go, this is the 10, and I'm just going to rattle them off. Can I answer his questions before you take over the questions? I'm going to cut the stage first. Hold your thoughts. I watched Saturday mornings. Yeah. And I did not have even Nickelodeon. I just had three channels. ABC, CBS and NBC Fox didn't exist but there was a there was a fourth channel UPM the WB it was Fox before Fox WB was big back then you think it was just CBS, ABC NBC and the WB I feel like I used to watch the WB a lot I don't think the WB was even a thing But I would watch some of these in syndication. Like, this youngster is coming in here, trashing the WB. You grew up in a different WB. My only TV credit is the CW, so I'm not trashing the WB. It's predecessor. Anyway, some of these I watch, like, in syndication, like, afternoon, after school or whatever. But most of these are Saturday morning. All right. I just wanted to answer your question. Go ahead. Would you sit in front of the TV, bowl of cereal? Like, oh, yeah. I think so. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I mean, there was no way to queue up anything, right? Like now, like I had, you know, VHS. I had Looney Tunes on a VHS tape. But it was like, other than that, there was no way to queue up a cartoon. Yeah. You know, you just had to watch what was coming on. Were you taping stuff? Were you all taping stuff from the TV? Yeah, a lot of times. We didn't have VCRs when I was really small. My mom worked at a plant that made VHS tapes. So that's what, y'all were doing that a lot. Yeah, we had the hookup. Yeah. Yeah. So what would you watch? What were your go-tos? Well, maybe we should start. I'm the middle, so maybe we start with Brian. All right. Okay. What are we doing? And then work our way down. Just give us your favorite cartoons. I want to hear what it is. I want to hear what the plot is. I want to hear why you like it. You gave us kind of two categories, all time and children. Yeah, I mean, I guess what I did was kind of what I watched as a kid and then what I watched as an adult. All right, well, as a kid, here's five. Number one, Looney Tunes. Now, generally what I would say is Bugs Bunny because he was the star. But that also is Daffy Duck, the Roadrunner, Coyote. All those are under Yosemite Sam, too. Is he one of them? He was always in a Bugs Bunny or Daffy Duck. He was the bad guy. Like Elmer Fudd was the bad guy, right? With both of those two, yeah. Yosemite Sam was trying to kill Bugs Bunny as well? Yosemite Sam was maybe in Daffy Duck. Yeah, yeah. He was like, hit the guns. So all these Looney Tunes were just an animal and then somebody trying to kill it. Yeah. There was a lot of that. Oh, yeah, because the Roadrunner, too. Was that Looney Tunes? Yeah. Yeah. And that was the coyote. Yeah, trying to kill the Roadrunner. They're actually pretty violent. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I mean, I like them, but they are like, it is constantly hitting something over the head with a pan or a rock or shooting over the gun. But it's a cartoon. Who cares? You can do whatever in a cartoon. Sylvester and Tweety Bird. He's trying to eat Tweety Bird. There it is. Tom and Jerry, the cat's trying to eat the mouse. Tom and Jerry was Looney Tunes, too? No. Okay. Was that a separate? I think that was Hanna-Barbera. Oh. But it still was the, you know, a lot of classical music with a cartoon. Not a lot of words. Yeah. So still those same vibe. Now, I didn't know this How I looked at it Looney Tunes had been around since like the 30s or 40s When they first started And some of those, maybe not that old But as far back as the 60s They would re-air when I was a kid There were some references that I obviously didn't get They had some Humphrey Bogart And different characters There's some really Asian stereotypes In some of these There's a lot of that age You get too far back in Looney Tunes You're like, ah, yeah I bet even at the time and you're like, ugh. Well, if you watch it now, for sure. Yeah. But when I was a kid, yeah, you weren't thinking about it. Yeah, but I love Bugs Bunny. I thought he was so funny. Me personally, when I watch Bugs Bunny now, I think he's kind of a prick. You know what I mean? When you watch him now, you're like, well, he's kind of a jerk out here. Well, that guy's trying to kill him the whole – Yeah, I guess you're right about that. You can get a few quips in if you're being shot at it. I actually feel sorry for Elmer Fudd when I watch him. Why? I don't know. I just do. He's just such a pitiful guy. Or Daffy Duxy, you should feel sorry for, because, you know, he'll trick Elmer Fudd into shooting Daffy's face off. Yeah. Is Elmer Fudd a kid? Or is he supposed to be a full-blown adult? He's supposed to be me. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. That is true. He's a guy in his 50s with, I don't know. But I love Bugs Bunny. And, you know, the Roadrunner and Coyote, I'm not really into that so much. I think a lot of people felt this way. They're kind of rooted for the Coyote. Yeah. You started feeling sorry for him, and there was no dialogue. Right. You know these cartoons, yeah? Sure, sure. And obviously, you know, with Porky Pig, it would end with – That's all. That's all, folks. Today, Jim, yeah. Numerous people have suggested that's how we get our podcast with that's all, folks. That's where it comes from. My T-shirt is me like Porky Pig. Coming out of the end. Busting out there. All right. Now there'll be new merch with you as Elmer Fung. Yeah. And Nate as Bugs Bunny. Yeah. I'll go faster on these. Okay. Are you showing this stuff to your daughter yet? No. You don't think that they're too young? She just has her own cartoons that are much more age appropriate. I mean, someday maybe, but. I've tried to show Daisy some of the days. She ain't into it. Really? Yeah. What is it, the animation, you think? It just looks so bad compared to moderate animation? Yeah. I'll try to put some on. I'll be on YouTube, and I'll try to put it. She goes, no, no, not this, not this. But it is. The older she gets, the more I'm like, oh, this is really violent, though. I really try to keep Daisy away from seeing violent stuff. Even if it's animals in the cartoon? Yeah. That's probably good. She's so sweet. She doesn't want to hit anybody. She's so sweet with her little brother, and I just want to keep it that way. I'm going to show my daughter Saving Private Ryan when she's six months old. Just the first ten minutes on repeat. Yeah. Yeah, my daughter watches Peppa Pig, Bluey. We've covered this. A lot of adults love Bluey. It's like one of their favorite shows for adults. That's weird. All right. Well, Drew Harrison is a big Bluey fan. He says it's a good cartoon. It is good. Have you watched it? No. He says it's good. Is it like Blue's Clues? It's like one of those? No, it's like a cartoon dog family, you know. Okay. Yeah. I wouldn't watch it if I didn't have kids, but it's something I can enjoy while she watches it. Drew does watch it without kids. I mean, I think it's – Yeah, Drew's into it. I'll go a little faster here. I don't care. I wonder, really. I mean, he says he can't wait for my daughter to finally be into Bluey because she's not into it so that me and him can talk about Bluey. And, I mean, I'm into it. My daughter's not into it as much. She's more Peppa Pig and stuff like that. Yeah. All right. Inspector Gadget. Inspector Gadget. Oh, man. I forgot Inspector Gadget. I used to love, love, I'm adding that to number three for me. Okay. Smurfs. Smurfs were big right when I was the age to really be in the cartoons. I liked Smurfs. It wouldn't make my top ten, but I did like that one. Super Friends. That was Super Heroes. Never heard of that. I remember that a little bit. What is Super Friends? It was the... Probably like Avengers. Yeah, I think this was DC, though. I think this was Superman. Is this where it combined the rings? Is that the Super Friends? That's Captain Planet, though. That's a good one, too. Oh, man. Dang, I used to watch that. I used to watch that. I used to watch that a little bit. What is that? It's not the guy's... Captain Planet, he's our hero. Gonna take pollution down to zero. That was all about global warming and stuff? I don't think we're talking about the same thing. You're talking about the Wonder Twins? I have no idea. This is all before my time. Captain Planet. Super Friends cartoon. They all had rings. Oh, this is literally Superman and his friends. It's like, what's the movie with Batman and Superman? They all combined. Batman versus Superman? Justice League. Justice League. Yeah, it's kind of that. What was the one now that I got thinking about that? Wonder Twins activate or whatever? Something like that, yeah, where the rings would touch and it would go. Yeah, but see, with this one, they had five rings. It was earth, wind, water, animals, fire. Yeah. And then they would all combine, and that's when Captain Planet would come out. Like some people would be bulldozing a forest, and they would go – they would bring their rings together, and Captain Planet would come out and, I don't know, stop it. And then they would go, but we need wood to live. And then they wouldn't listen to him. And it was probably brainwashing to try to get me into global warming and stuff, but I escaped it. I was like, I still hate pollution, and I'm down to keep pollution down. Yeah, I haven't heard any of those. I'm not buying into the propaganda, though. And then Speed Racer. Speed Racer. Someone just told me recently their parents would not let them watch that. Why? I think they thought it was too violent. Isn't it just driving around in a car? Or do they ever get out of the car? Yeah, I mean, it's Japanese animation, so it's a little bit different. But I don't remember watching that Saturday morning. I remember watching that like in the afternoon or something. After school. I feel like I watched a little bit of that, but I was never into that. All right. Let me hit you with my kids ones. I'm going to go real quick. WWF Superstars. That was a cartoon Saturday morning. They had Andre the Giant, Hulk Hogan, all that. That was a good one. The Batman cartoon. That was when I was a little more of a teenager. I forget. It had an actual name, Gotham City or something like that. Really great cartoon, though. Okay. More serious. Chip and Dale, Rescue Rangers. Chip and Dale, Rescue Rangers, Chip and Dale, danger. That was a good one. What would they do? They just, you know, they were. Solve crimes? This was like Mag and P.I.? Yeah, they had that outfit. Okay. They would solve crimes or whatever. And then I had Bugs Bunny and Daffy Duck. Here's one. Heathcliff the Cat. It's spelled like Heathcliff, but we always called it Heathcliff, so I don't know if... Yeah, that was a fun one. I was always into that. This was like a Walmart brand Garfield. Yeah, a little bit. Like he was living in the trash can or whatever. Oh, he's like a stray cat. Yeah. I like that. Yeah, I like this show. He's got a little more edge to him than Garfield. Exactly. I like that show a lot. This one, I kind of watched it, you know, and it's still on today, but I was more into it as a kid, and that's The Simpsons. I've not been into The Simpsons so much as an adult, but when I was a kid, I loved The Simpsons. Then there was Bobby's World. Bobby's World was Howie Mandel's show when I was a kid. Great Saturday morning cartoon. Doug. Wow. Doug was really good. It's the first overlap on my list. Yeah, okay. Doug, I was becoming a little bit more of a teenager watching Doug. What's Doug? I don't know what that is. So Doug, there were two iterations of it. It was originally a Nickelodeon cartoon. That's where I remember it as a Nickelodeon cartoon. And then from the early 90s. And then two years later, Disney, I guess, bought the rights and re-released it as a Disney cartoon. The animation is a little different. I like the Nickelodeon version better. Yeah, it's really good. But it's just this dorky kid just trying to live life, man. And everybody's a different color. People are blue. His best friend Skeeter down there, he just honks. He barely even talks. All right. And that's the love of his life right there, Patty Mayonnaise. Wow, that's a nice name. Some of his names are insane. Yeah, Doug Funny is his name. Doug Funny. All right. And that's the bully over on the right, Roger Klotz, and he lives in the trailer park. So he's a bully, but really he's just dealing with his own stuff. Yeah, his dad's probably an alcoholic, drug addict. I think he is at one point, yeah. Wow. All right, then we go Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. Okay. That's Nate's favorite. Is this too edgy? No. Too edgy? Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles? No, no. You looked at her when I said about his – No, I'm just surprised. It's a kid's cartoon that they're dealing with. We used to get into stuff in these cartoons, man. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, the first cartoon, really great. I had all the toys. I had like a toy-like whole sewer system, Master Splinter, really great. And I added last-minute Inspector Gadget. That was one of my favorites. I mean, he talked to his watch. He had his little helper penny. It was really, really good. And then my top two, Masters of the Universe, He-Man and Masters of the Universe. Such a hot cartoon when I was a kid. Masters of the Universe? Yeah. You had a joke about it. Yeah. Okay, so what is this main guy? That's He-Man? That's Adam. Okay. And Adam has a sword, and he will hold it up to the sky, and he says, By the power of Greyskull! And then he becomes He-Man, Master of the Universe. Sounds satanic, but whatever. Well, you know, my mom was not watching things like that like I was. So I was into it, and it's really great. And then they made a movie. The movie doesn't get a lot of credit, but it's Dolph Lundgren is in it as He-Man. Is it a live-action movie? Live-action. I think it's really good. It's got Courtney Cox, one of her first movies. Wow. She's in He-Man, Masters of the Universe. And then my number one favorite cartoon of all time as a kid, G.I. Joe. Wow. Wow. That was the best. G.I. Joe cartoon. I had a million G.I. Joe. This is it right here? Yeah. Like, that's what it looked like? I had a million G.I. Joe's as a kid, and I loved G.I. Joe. Now, have y'all gone back and watched any of this stuff as an adult and see how it's aged? Yeah, it's all terrible. Yeah. In what way? Well, I mean, G.I. Joe is just like, I don't know. It's just not fun to watch. Master of the Universe is pretty ridiculous. Inspector Gadget I've not watched I haven't either I'm sure some of it's good But I mean this didn't make my list But other classic cartoons Like the Flintstones Scooby Doo Oh Flintstones Yeah Scooby Doo I used to watch those a lot Yeah Yeah Those are great I remember when Cartoons used to be really good They just are not A lot of good cartoons now Well I wouldn't No I mean the ones for our daughters Are I would say really good Right? Nah. Peppa Pig is not holding up like... But that's for two-year-olds. Okay. Well, I guess so. But I'm just saying, I don't know what the cartoons are at now, but they don't have a Scooby-Doo. Yeah. It's a different vibe. But even Scooby, I remember when they added Scrappy-Doo. Yeah. Scrappy-Doo. That's where they jumped the shark. It's like a puppy that they were ravis. That's when the show about a talking dog jumped the shark. Well, Scooby. Scooby didn't really talk. He talked. Yeah, I mean, Shaggy talked to him, but maybe Shaggy was just high. Yeah, but Scrappy's like a full-on, like, it's like, all right, dude, don't come up in here and take control of the show. I've never even heard of Scrappy, too. Yeah, it was in the later years, and that's, yeah. The Harlem Globetrotters showed up. That was a fun episode. Oh, yeah. The Harlem Globetrotters came to an open mic in Nashville once. Oh, yeah? You ever heard about that? No. their trainer is an open mic comic a young young woman and they were in town doing something and she came and did the mic and the harlem globetrotters showed up wow and you know you're not profiling people when you see like nine enormously tall black dudes walk in you're like what is happening yeah yeah surely they're not the harlems you don't want to assume they're the harlem globetrotters but they are don't get into comedy you're right you guys are pretty tall And they came and they sat in the back and they were awesome, dude. They watched the whole open mic. They laughed at everybody. It was like a great mic. Oh, yeah. It was one of the few nights I wasn't at that mic. They were like, the next day, I go, how was the mic last night? The Harlem Globetrotters were there. What? You were like, I was at home watching Doug. Well, this is interesting because I'm hearing you all say our cartoons. I don't know if this is a function of when I grew up or if it's a reflection of me. But all of my cartoons that I watched were of real-life stuff. These are kids' cartoons, right? These were kids. When you were kids, okay. Yeah, no superhero stuff, nothing supernatural, just all normal. It could be a TV show. Okay. If they want it to be. So these are my favorites. Doug, we've already talked about. Hey Arnold was a big one. This takes place in what I assume is New York City. There are theories that it takes place somewhere else, but it's in an urban area. I'll tell you what, though. If Arnold's real, he can make fun of. Well, he's made fun of relentlessly in this show. He's called Football Head. That's him right there in the front. That's his best friend, Gerald. They would definitely call him Football Head at my school. This is Harold right here, the fat kid. He's a bully, but he's Jewish. So there's an episode where you go to his bar mitzvah, and really, you know, he's struggling with his own weight and everything else. He's got his own issues. Sad relationship with his parents. That's Sid. He's the poor kid. Stinky Peterson on the top left. I mean, just a great mix of people. Helga. I'll see you in a little Hey Arnold. She's the bully, Helga, but she's actually in love with Arnold the whole series. Okay. So there's a little tension there. Okay. This show, I used to love just the freedom of these kids running around the city, no parents anywhere. Right. They would go take the train at like 2 in the morning. You're like, who's letting these kids do this? Right. But Arnold grew up in a boarding house with all kinds of random people in there. Wow. I love this show. It was crazy. And if you watch it, there's like some deep, there's like some of the episodes are sad, and they explore like real stuff. This is a great show. Where did it air? Nickelodeon. This is like the mid to late 90s. Yeah. So you guys had professional cartoon channels. Yeah. Essentially, yeah. That's all they aired. And we didn't have cable, but I remember the cable guy, when he was setting up our TV, he was like, we'll give you Nickelodeon. Wow. Just Nickelodeon. Nickelodeon and ESPN. Wow. Because I think he knew my dad. I think he went to the same church as us or something. So he's like, I'll give you all Nickelodeon and ESPN. So we had basic cable and then Nickelodeon and ESPN. Wow. That's all we had. So I didn't grow up. We had Cartoon Network was around, but we didn't have it in our house. Yeah. So I didn't watch any of those. Just Nickelodeon. Okay. And then the other one, Rocket Power. Have you ever heard of this? No. Rocket Power is a Nickelodeon cartoon. Well, who is this kid, though? I know this kid. Skate kids. That's Otto Rocket right there. And he's like. To the right here. That's a kid from another cartoon. That's Squid, dude. He's called Squid. You know what I'm talking about? I feel like I watched this cartoon and I feel like this guy had a different name. Maybe. It's just about kids, again, running around. Parents are not really around. Seems like Rugrats. Well, yeah, this is after Rugrats. So maybe the animation. The Rugrats are grown up. The animation looks similar. There was a show called Rugrats All Grown Up when they were 12. Okay. Which is so funny to call them all grown up in middle school. This guy seems like a rug rat, though. Well, just the animation's similar. Yeah, but that's Twister, and that's Rocket Girl, and that's Squid. He's the new kid. Okay. Another great show. Let's pull it up right here. Tillmore. Now, y'all are not going to have heard of this show. Never heard of it. This show was so short-lived. It used to air Saturday mornings on ABC. I used to love cop shows. I told you we watched Law and Order as a kid, as a family. This was Law and Order, but at a school. That's Fillmore, the main character. He was like a thug kid. He got in trouble for stealing chalk, and then they're like, you can go to detention or you can become a cop, essentially. So it's a parody of cop shows, but it's hall monitors at a school. So they just solve crimes. Let me guess, this girl is the girl who does, she's the scientist. You ever see the, what's the one with Mark? CSI. Yeah, like, you know, he has the weird girl that is always like. Oh, that's NCIS. Yeah, yeah. Similar. Yeah, yeah, they all work on this hallmonger police force. And there's like a captain, that's him in the back, and he's always drinking coffee. Oh, yeah. And the funniest part about the show to me was when they find the perp, they chase them. They have these chase scenes. And you're like, they've got to come to school the next day. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just let them come to school the next day. There's no point of chase of these kids. But that show was fun. It only lasted two seasons. The biggest one for me was this show, Recess. Disney's Recess aired Saturday mornings on ABC. Are you the blonde kid, man? I'm a little bit of. That's so mean. If you're listening, he just pointed out the fattest kid in the group. I'm the kid with the backwards hat. I'm the cool kid. I'm a little bit of everybody in this group. TJ's the leader of this group. He's the cool kid. And then there's Spinelli. She's the feisty. She's in the, like, I don't know. She's just kind of mean, but she's fun. He's the athlete. Vince is the athlete. Gus is the dorky new kid. He's the poet, the fat guy, Mike. He's the poet of the group. And then that's the smart girl. and they exist on this playground where there's an entire society. There's a king. There's a class system. It was so much fun, dude. I watched the show all the time as a kid. Recess. Highly recommend it. Yeah. That's fun. Yeah. I'm glad that you had a couple I had not heard of. Mm-hmm. It is funny, though, how the segue, mine are all totally ridiculous. Yours was a blend of kind of transforming into more, and then yours was just. Mine are all, you know, there was like SpongeBob was around, and that's obviously, it's like sea creatures. Yeah. But all the ones that I really gravitated towards were just real, real kids. Like that could have been a TV show. You know, there's nothing crazy in it. But a lot of fun. What about adults? All right. I looked up, by the way, I'm still on this, Wonder Twins. So they were part of the all-new Super Friends hours. and they would touch their fists and say the phrase, Wonder Twin Powers, activate. And that's where the rings would touch. Yep. Okay. All right. I'll type. I don't – these are a few, like, specials. Like, number one, Charlie Brown's Christmas. That's a good one. Now, a lot of people – I know I said that was over fun. A lot of people on the podcast say I'm Charlie Brown. I don't feel that way. But, okay, I like Charlie Brown. I like Charlie Brown, and I like that. I used to watch that a lot. Why not? Charlie Brown's Christmas. It's very good. I mean, it's amazing that it came out in the 60s, and it's about commercialization of Christmas, and it was the 60s. Isn't it really about that? Yeah. Charlie Brown's upset because everyone's just into, you know, his dog enters a contest for best decoration and wins. Yeah, I mean, our society has been in decline for a long time. That's amazing. That's from the 60s when you think it was whatever. Do you think Charles Rolfe, do you think he made this cartoon for free? Or did he get paid to do it? You're trying to make a point about... Well, what is... So what's Charlie Brown's deal? Why is he always... Everything's bad and is happening to him. Is it just bad luck or does he bring it on a little bit? That's a fair question, I guess. I don't know. But he's got to bring it on a little bit. You've got to know Lucy's going to pull the football. You've got to be smarter than that. Okay. So he's a little bit of a dunce, but just bad luck? I don't know if he's a dunce or if he's just trusting, right? Maybe that's it. Like, you just trust that Lucy this time is going to hold the football. Oh, so he's good to a fault in this world that just beats on him. I think so. I don't know enough about him to speak on it. I mean, the Peanuts comic strip went on for decades. Right. There's not that many, I don't think, actual live animation. There's specials, you know. But it started and it's primarily just, like, cartoons in a newspaper. I think so, yeah. Okay. I think the Peanuts went on for a long, long time. But that's really good. I mean, there's a scene where Linus gets up and talks about the meaning of Christmas and, you know, and reads or recites a scripture from the Bible. Oh, interesting. It's amazing that that's still on primetime TV every year. Also, it has the best soundtrack, the best Christmas music ever. It's Charlie Brown Christmas. It's like great jazz music. Yeah. It's really, really awesome. Garfield's Halloween special. It was actually scary. As a kid, it was like... Garfield was great. I really like Garfield, too. Garfield's Halloween. This was scary? I mean, yeah, for a cartoon, like, maybe that's not that shocking. You've got to realize, he's not been, like, your cartoons were all reality, right? Yeah. So he's not been jaded. Your parents were making you watch Law and Order SVU. I was just an innocent kid. He's just a white sheep with two eyeballs. He goes, ooh. There were some scary scenes, all right? You were desensitized to her. I was. I was. I was calloused. Also Christmas here. How the Grinch Stole Christmas, Frosty the Snowman. Those are all great. Those are timeless. These are just all time. These are not necessarily ones you just enjoyed as an adult. Yeah, they're kind of all time. I thought that's what you said we were supposed to do. I lost track. I thought we would do some as a kid and then some as an adult. This is why you let him run the podcast. That's true. Stop trying to do stuff yourself. Yeah. I'll do a couple as an adult. Aqua Teen Hunker Force. Oh, that's on my list. I love that show. That's on my list. I love that show. I thought nobody would have that on the list. Boom. This show stinks. Really? Gosh, I love that show. I've never seen it. It's so funny. I'm just looking at it. It looks like the worst show ever. It does look like the worst, but it's really funny. What is it? A drink and a thing of fries and a meatball talking to each other? Meatwad. You know, I never... Yeah, it's Meatwad. Oh, sorry. Get it right. Meatwad. Shake. Yeah, and then they got a neighbor, Carl. Yeah, there's Carl. I never got into Adult Swim. All those are so weird. But somebody told me about there was a period that they like oh you should watch Aquitaine Hunger Force And it was funny It is really funny Squidbillies Watched that for a while That a great one I going to add that to number 10 I forgot about it That way I can have 10. I forgot about it. Okay, I recognize this little octopus thing. Yeah. Or squid. Yeah. I actually have that hat. That's hilarious. Somebody gave me that hat in the show. You have a hat that says Booty Hunter on? Yeah, I have that exact hat. Wow. Somebody gave that to me at a show. Wear that on the podcast sometime. I think that's shot in Atlanta, and I think a lot of Atlanta comics have done some voicing on it. Oh, that's fun. Not shot, I guess, but maybe. Quiet on set. It used to be. Mr. Squid, come on out. I think Billy Joe Shaver's done some stuff on it, I think, and Country Singer that I like. Mm-hmm. All right. You want me to hit my 10? Sure. I'm going to go Squid. I'm going to do 10, but that's enough. I'm going to go Squid Billy's first, but obviously I just wrote that down. I'm going South Park number nine. And South Park gets a little too much for me, but I would be lying if I did not say I had not enjoyed a ton of South Park episodes. Because when it came out, you were the perfect age. Yeah. I mean, I was in high school when it came out. I mean, I've laughed at South Park a lot. There's a show that I just recently started, but it's one of my all-time favorites already because it's so good. And I'm into anything Mike Judge does. And this is Tales from the Tour Bus, which is he just animates, basically interviews. The first season is all country music. And the very first episode is Johnny Paycheck. And it's so great. It's so good. It looks funny. The next, Beavis and Butthead. Really great. I wasn't able to watch it as a kid, but I've gone back and watched a lot as an adult. Very funny. Bob's Burgers. Great, great cartoon. Futurama. I like that one a lot. That's the Simpsons creator. Love that one. Number four is more of a movie, but it's called Planet Hulk. And it is basically Ragnarok, but in this, Hulk wins. It's not. That's a regular show? Is it a regular cartoon? Yeah. Yeah, I mean. Never heard of this. Yeah. Thor does not win in this. the whole problem with the Marvel Universe is that they used Hulk as kind of like this punching bag to show how strong the other Avengers were. And I didn't read a ton of comic books but from what I understand Hulk, people don't beat up on Hulk like that. I'm so surprised, I'm always surprised you're so into superhero stuff. Because it feels so against everything else. Well, it's like, it's from your childhood. You know, you get into all these things as a child. Like Harry Potter. Yeah, exactly. You know, exactly. Except, you know. I mean, it is exactly like it. But why is it not okay for him to like Harry Potter now? It is okay for him to like it. It's witchcraft, but it is okay for him to like it. And then number three, I put Aqua Teen Hunger Force. Laughed at that a lot as an adult. Number two, Family Guy. Family Guy is so great. And number one adult cartoon of all time, King of the Hell. King of the Hell. Unbelievable. A lot of people call you... Dale Gribble. Yeah. Yeah. And other than being super weak, I agree with him. Dale Gribble's a super weak man. But other than that, I agree with him. He is a weak guy, right? He is. I mean, his wife is having a kid with a... Yeah. What's his name? What is his name? Johnny. Johnny. John Redwood, I think. Is it Redwood? I don't know. Red Man? It's something on the nose. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I don't remember. Great cartoon. But I love that cartoon, though. What is it about a cartoon? Any of these, if they were live action, I feel like the charm of it would be gone. Yeah. To some degree, yeah. And I think Mike Judge animation is really good because it's not perfect animation, but It's just in the way that it's like animation can be too good now to where I think that a little bit of it letting you know. Because there's another one like it's called like six ounce mouse or something like that. It's like some of the worst animation ever, but it was pretty good. Big loud mouth, that one? No, it's like something mouse. It's like a mouse. Yeah. And it's like it's pretty good. I mean, it's just the dialogue that goes back and forth. But then, yeah, I mean, King of the Hill is number one cartoon of all time. Now, you know, hopefully, I mean, I've been pitching a cartoon. I sold a cartoon to Hulu one time that never got made. And then I sold one to another company and it never got made. But I'm working on some stuff. Can you tell us anything about it? Let me see if I can find it. Well, I don't even know anything about it yet. That's probably why your pitch didn't get picked up. Go ahead, that's true I don't know anything about one of those I have a cartoon idea I don't know much about it If I could find a picture of it, I would share it Yeah, airdrop it to me So I did not watch I still don't Most of these adult cartoons The Simpsons started when I was in high school That's how I spin around And I really rarely watched it But I know there's so many cultural references That come from The Simpsons Yesterday We're headed to the airport in Albuquerque We drive by Our Uber driver has given us a Tour of the city Basically We didn't ask him to but he just volunteered to tell us You know about a tour of the city Now I'm sorry what? I'm sorry he just pulled it up I'll wrap this up I'll tell you're bored Alright sorry We drive by I've been searching for it the whole time you've been telling the story, so I was not. You know that we weren't just sitting quietly waiting for you to prove it. I know, but I missed all the story. Okay, yeah, yeah. Yesterday, I'm in Albuquerque. We're headed to the airport. Our Uber driver voluntarily starts giving us a tour of the city. Which is interesting because Breaking Bad and there's a lot of stuff there. We drive by their minor league baseball stadium. Isotopes. Isotopes. Right. That came from the Simpsons. Did you know that? No, I didn't know that at all. Apparently there's an episode, I have it here somewhere because I don't remember it, where they're moving the team from Springfield in the Simpsons, and they're the, well, sorry. The Springfield Isotopes from the Simpsons, season two called Dance and Homer, in which the main character, Homer Simpson Chipper Early, becomes his local team's mascot. In the episode, Homer attempts to thwart the team's plan to move to Albuquerque by going on a hunger strike. Wow. And they did a fan vote and they called themselves the same. I just assumed it was something to do with nuclear energy or something. I think that helped. Yeah, I think it's a good fit for it. Yeah. That's crazy. Yeah. Now, I'm sorry, we'll get to that. Maybe one more question, though. The Simpsons, is in your mind Homer the main character? Well, when I was a kid, Bart Simpson was the main character. You did? Because it was like, I mean, that's what I would say. I want to watch Bart Simpson. I wouldn't say The Simpsons. I mean, Bart Simpson was the main character. Somewhere it shifted, though. I had a toy, Bart Simpson. Do you think it shifted from your perspective or in the show, the way the show told us? Well, who's your perspective? I never really watched The Simpsons. I was not allowed to watch it as a kid and I never really picked it up as an adult. I just think that as we grew with the show, I think they shifted it to Homer Beat because now we're adults. Maybe so. But who would you envision? Because I didn't watch The Simpsons either. When I think of the show, I think of Homer. I think with the donut, that's what I think of. Yeah. Yeah, I feel like they shifted it. Yeah. All right, let's look at this. Well, it was a working title. We weren't like, this is the name. This was just kind of a working title. But, yeah, this was our animation. Obviously, I'm the little kid there with a hat that says Dusty on it. If you're listening, it's outside a trailer. Yeah, and then there's like this. My mom has got her arm on me, and then the two other girls are my sisters, and then that's my brother-in-law in the lawn chair and then their daughter. All right? So that was. That was amazing. Yeah. That is amazing. There's a possum on the roof, I believe. Yeah, because, you know, I got a joke. A possum's got a toothbrush. You know, I got a joke about a possum. Was that going to be a character in the show? Yeah. The possum was like your pet? Not my pet, but it was going to be kind of a thing that would pop up. Just always around. Yeah. That's so cool, man. Looks like some California redwoods back there. Well, that is what I told him. I said, well, you're, you're, I said, this is great. But I was like, your trees are off. You got the wrong trees. Yeah, put some pine trees out there. Yeah. Yeah. Your trees are off, but everything else looks good. Even the concrete steps, the cement block steps. Now, what is this girl doing? She has more of a nine-to-five job? Yeah, because it was like, you know, we had kind of two sisters, you know, one being more redneck than the other kind of guy. Okay. Oh, that's fun. And that's my sister, like, trying to get out of the – Wow. And that's your other sister and her baby? Yeah. Yeah. That's so cool, man. And where does this stand? Is this – could this happen? Well, I don't know. Something like this could happen. But this was the one I sold to Hulu in 2020. What happened in 2020? Well, I think what happened was King of the Hill was announced that they were coming back. Apparently, King of the Hill is coming back, but it takes a long time. Yeah. The animation takes forever. Yeah. So that was announced that it was coming back, and I think it killed my show. Greg Garcia, like I said, was on the road with us this weekend. He worked on a couple seasons of Family Guy as a writer. Oh, that's cool. He said, it's so fun just to say, we're in Saudi Arabia, and you can just write a scene. You can just do whatever. Yeah, do whatever. You're doing a live action show. Yeah. And the guy writing this with me was a writer from Family Guy. And I thought we wrote a really great script. It was really funny. Yeah. We just had tons of free time during 2020. I'm just zooming with this guy, and we're writing it. And you're right. You just do whatever you want with information. You write whatever you want. that's crazy because there's stuff you probably don't even think of if you're doing a live action show obviously we can't go to the Sahara Desert or the Eiffel Tower that's so cool so we should go through that list real fast see if there's anything we missed yeah let's just go through we got a few minutes left here this is the top 50 cartoon characters is that the list you sent me? yeah that's fine top 50 cartoon characters let's just go down to the top 10 Sure. Yeah, I already skipped past it. I need to poo, great. Steven Universe? Never even heard of this. Not from that. Created 2013. 13, a little past my prime. Zuko from Avatar, The Last Airbender, never watched that. I didn't either. Here we go. The Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. Yes. They lumped all four of them in. Yeah, see, that was my show right there. I mean, that show, I had all those toys. I mean, that show was great. That's by far Nate's favorite. Scooby-Doo and Shaggy. Yeah. Never knew his last name. Me either. Shaggy Rogers? That doesn't even seem to sound real. Great character. What's by Casey Kasem? Also, have you ever had the Scooby Snacks, the actual snacks? Pretty good. It's pretty good. They're like gummies. Yeah. Yeah, it tastes good. Mickey Mouse? No doubt. I'm not a big fan, but no doubt that's one of the greatest characters. I think he's the most popular probably worldwide. Yeah. Wouldn't you say? Oh, sure. Yeah, the ears are just the ears alone are iconic. SpongeBob. SpongeBob SquarePants is up there. Yeah. Tom and Jerry. Wow, that's surprising there in the top four. Charlie Brown and Snoopy. Yeah. Three, and then number two, Homer Simpson. Not surprising. Longest-running TV show of all time, right? I think so. Yeah. And then number one, Bugs Bunny. I mean, that's a solid list. Go back here, just up a little bit. Mm-hmm. No, no, back down to Homer. Right here, right here, right here. It says, oh, okay. The first two seasons of the Simpsons were focused on Bart, but as it became Homer-centric, the show became something truly special. So it did shift. That's fun. I think the first popular cartoon I read was Mickey Mouse. It was called Steamboat Willie. And there's a scene in I think I've seen that. There's a scene in Saving Private Ryan where they can't capture a Nazi soldier and they're about to execute him and he's trying to show them guys I'm Americanized now. I love America. And I think one of the references he tries to say is Steamboat Willie. yeah oh yeah yeah and he starts singing the national anthem he goes oh say can you see yeah oh say can you see oh say can you see it's actually a really heartbreaking scene yeah betty boop i think he references betty boop another cartoon and that guy comes back and kills a bunch of americans at the end after they let him out yeah yes war as hell boys there's uh flintstones was the first primetime cartoon and there's a commercial i think i said to a cigarette ad where they use the Fred Flintstone and Barney to promote cigarettes. Oh, yeah. How about that? The good old days, huh? That's what I'm saying. It's very funny. They're out hanging out. Their wives are working. They're like, this is tough, man. Let's go in the back and get away from this. As Barney's saying, let's get out of here. And they go in the back and. Wait, they're just trying to get away from their wives working? Yeah, it's a very funny. Even today it would be very funny. They're like, this is tough to watch. Let's go hang out. And then he's like, you know, I could really relax with some cigarettes. some winstons some winstons the winston 100s well you know you know they work really hard those guys yeah the friends of arnie work at a rock factory that's true that's true oh okay they're not just like lazy bombs yeah I mean they work really hard um yeah you're right that's how it starts with them them sliding down the back of the dinosaur here's a couple of phrases this is so funny I know imagine like a spongebob commercial where they're doing this You work in a rock factory. You deserve a cigarette. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, it's a Saturday, right? Cowabunga. You know what that's from? My old boss used to smoke Winston's. Cowabunga is a... It's a phrase. Ninja Turtles? Yeah. Ninja Turtles. When you said... I remember the episode where you said, I think, therefore I am is the most popular phrase. Cogito Ergo Zoom. Whatever. And Nate said, Cowabunga. Oh, that makes sense. He's a big Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles fan. Yeah. Wow. Um, what's up, Doc? Big one. Big one. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. Heroes in a half shell. Turtle power. They're the world's most fearsome fighting. Teenage Mutant. Turtle power. Something like that. What's the most popular theme song for a cartoon? Probably the SpongeBob one, dude, for my generation. Chip and Dale is pretty popular. Are you ready, kids? Aye, aye, Captain. Who lives in a pineapple under the sea? SpongeBob. It's for sure. But Chippendales was a big one. Ch-ch-ch-ch-chippendales. Mine's the Jetsons. Pretty sure it's Jetsons. Or Scooby-Doo. Scooby-Doo theme. What is the Scooby-Doo theme? Scooby, Scooby-Doo. Oh, man. Yeah, that's a big one. That's a big one for sure. G.I. Joe, American Heroes. Well, you know what probably transcended all that was the da-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na. Batman. Yeah, yeah. I've never even seen the cartoon. That was a real show that was doing that. But I've never seen that cartoon, but I know the thing. But that cartoon. That wasn't a cartoon? That wasn't the theme of the cartoon. That was the theme of the real show. Oh, I'm sorry. The cartoon was pretty dark. But I think the opening where they do that, it's animated, isn't it? Come, pow. Maybe. I don't know. I don't think so. All right. 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It's not that different, but they do start earlier because they have fall break and a spring break. We never had a fall break. We never had a fall break. Well, there's a lot of data to suggest that a better model would be to eliminate summer vacation altogether and just have year-round school. I think I'd prefer that. And you just have another like fall break, another like week break somewhere in there. But taking two months off, you don't retain a lot of what you learned. There's a lot of data that says all the kids will be better off. What do you think about that? I don't know. I think there's so much useless stuff that goes on in school anyway. I just think about the stuff. You think the lack of retention is good. Yeah, I mean. We do need to get a little – forget some of this. Well, it's like I think we should like be learning really practical things like so that when we get out of school, we know how to do stuff. Like people don't know how to pay bills. They don't know how to balance checkbooks. They don't know how to do their taxes. They don't – I think we should be learning all this stuff. I think you should know how to cook basic food for yourself. I mean – and then we come out very productive humans instead of being like – we just come out ready to go to college. We're like, let's get in debt. Now, there are some classes in high school that do some of that. Home ec. But they're electives that you can do. They are. I think we should focus. Like, it's like, you know, like calculus was a class that you could take. And it's like, you know, it's like if you want to get into math later on, like, get into it in college. Oh, I thought you meant, like, once you retire. Then take up a hobby. Yeah, it's like, I don't need calculus in high school. Like, let's go algebra. Let's do Algebra 1. But do you think the kid that wants to take calculus is also the kid that needs to take a class on how to button a shirt? Well, button a shirt is – I mean, that's a stretch. If he doesn't know how to button a shirt, then the answer is yes. But I don't – I think these are classes that people need to be taken. Like we took a sewing class. It was an elective. We took sewing, but I know how to sew. You took sewing as an elective? Yeah. Well, I don't know. It was middle school, so it was kind of a required class. Really? So I know how to sew with a needle and thread. I learned to use a sewing machine. I haven't done that in a long time, so I don't know if I could do it. That's pretty cool. Yeah, and I think – But can you do calculus? I don't even know what calculus is, to be honest with you. Yeah, I barely – let's go over where we went. Mine's pretty simple. I was first through eighth grade at the same school. It was the smallest school in the county. First through eight? Yeah, I didn't go to kindergarten. Okay. First through eighth grade, that same school. And then I went from the smallest school in the county to the biggest school in the county in high school. And so I was only at two schools before college. When you got to the big school, like, because this happened to my mom, too. Was that a real adjustment? Oh, yeah. But it was great because I was with the same kids for eight years, and there's just a few of us. Yeah. And then you get to high school, and you're a freshman. You see the senior girls, and you're like, they're women. Yeah. Oh, yeah. And they seem so mature and just put together. Yeah, it was a huge adjustment. It was so nice, though, to be around other kids that you hadn't been around all the time, though. Right. And doing stuff. I was hot. Whoa. I mean, that's probably. That's a good look, though. I'm going to be honest. It is a good look. You've got kind of the dusty sleigh glasses. Yeah. That's why you think it's a good look. Okay. I think it's a good look. I mean, you've got a. My head hair. What is that? Yeah, I mean, there's – yeah, I like it. I'm into it. Is that a Lacoste? Sure. It could be. It could be. That's a good call on that. That was third grade maybe. I mean, your hair looks good. You got a good head of hair, man. Yeah, yeah. I've had a haircut like that. I had a haircut like that most of my life. Is that kind of Alabama bangs? I would say like Alabama swoop. Yeah, the Bama swoop. Bama swoop. Okay. Yeah. So that's pretty much, I mean – Hey, that's a good look. Public schools? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Were there, like, was there ever talk? There were, like, Christian schools or private schools that you would have maybe gone to? Or was it? There is one in Lebanon that, I mean, is still there. But I don't ever remember any talk about it. I just don't think we could afford it. Yeah. So. And, I mean, you went to private Christian schools. I see advantages and disadvantages. I mean, my daughter now, you know, I'll be considering for her in a few years. wordy-centered school, and there are some advantages to public school, but... What are the advantages? I feel like you're around a more diverse group of people. I may be wrong, because I wasn't in private school, but I feel like you're... Diverse in what way? Well, in race, in economics, and just different, you know, just not everyone's maybe as similar as you. I may be wrong, but that's how I feel. There's probably some truth to that. I think it depends a lot on the school. Like I got stabbed in eighth grade. Did you get stabbed? That's the kind of diversity. I got punched in the bathroom, busted my eye. And luckily you could do your own stitches after you got stabbed. Yeah, that's true. Because I learned things. I had to go to a nurse, so they had to do it. My locker got broken into a lot. I lost a lot of money. You know what I mean? How many schools did you go to growing up? Well, I was just talking about this the other day. It was weird for me because some schools were being built. In Opelika, I went to a school called Carver from kindergarten and first grade, and then the new school was being built. So I went to another school called Brown while that one was being finished, and then I went – I was the first class at Southview Primary. So I did second grade there, and then I did third grade at a school called Martin, third, fourth, and fifth, which would later be called Northside. and then I went to middle school, Opelika Middle School for 6th, 7th, 8th, and then high school, OHS, 9th, 10th, 11th, 12th. Damn. That's a lot. Yeah. You jumped around a lot. Look at the military family. That's what I was about to say. All in the same town. So all these primary and elementary schools, we all came together in middle school. So it was similar to that. So you had friends that made all these jumps with you. Yes. Okay. So you had friends that you went from kindergarten all the way through high school. Absolutely. Matter of fact, the girl who told me that her boyfriend peed on her peacoat, we were in kindergarten together. Went all the way through school together. Wow. Yeah. Such a huge chunk of your life in the same room with another person. Yeah. Now, she wasn't in every class with me. But she was around. But we made the journey. Yeah. I mean, you were five when you started. Yeah. Her last name was, her name was Lindsay Savage. So Savage and Slay, we were always like, you know, when your last names are close, you're always like kind of like in the same homeroom together and stuff like that. A lot of the S's. Yeah. You were taking an elective in junior high? Yeah, I don't know if they were called electives, but they were like just, you know, you'd have all your regular classes and then you had. It's elective in that, like, you decided whether you went to school that day or not. That is true. That is true. Yeah, I did home ec, I did chorus, you know, stuff like that. I did a little chorus thing. I just realized we were singing God Bless the USA by Lee Greenwood in middle school. Oh, no, maybe elementary school. And I looked at the dates, and that song was brand new at that time. Wow. So, because I was like, man, this song must be way older, but it was like brand new. I thought it came out after 9-11. Had a resurgence. Had a bit of a resurgence. Yes, it did. Yeah, I remember hearing it all over after that. Like, I met Lee Greenwood a couple of times, and it's like, you don't hear other Lee Greenwood songs. You don't need another song. Yeah. You've got the song. Yes. But I remember when that song came out, and I knew who Lee Greenwood was because he had stuff. Right. He has a few albums, but it's like, I mean, when you got that song. Yeah. Career changes. Yeah. Now, we're all 10 years, well, you and I are 20 years apart, but we're 10 years different. So I graduated high school in 1990. Did you graduate in 2000? 2000, yeah. In 2010. All right. Yeah. I had a class of the new millennium here. Me. Oh. You know? Yeah. What does that mean? Well, first graduating class of 2000, you know, the year 2000. I think it'd be 2001 would be. Well, that was the argument that 2001 people had. But we were the first class to not use 19, you know. Uh-huh. Oh, yeah. The first 20. Okay. All the 2001 kids made that argument. Well, we were the first because you don't start with zero. You start with one. And I get it. Those are the nerds. Yeah, exactly. You know what we mean. Exactly. I think my first grade year, I think, was 1978, 79. That was a good year. It was a good year? There was a lot going on. Yeah, there was a lot happening back then. So, oh, look here. Here we go. This is a St. Bede gray basketball team. Look how happy you are. I'm pretty excited, man. I'm excited to be playing hoops. And a few poinsettias on your back. Yeah, in front of a weird kind of mural of the Virgin Mary. How many schools did you go to, Aaron? I went to the same – I went to Catholic school my entire life. Yeah. Kindergarten through college, which is pretty crazy. But I went to St. Bede, K through 6, and then it was a feeder school for Montgomery Catholic Middle School. And then that fed right into Catholic High School. and then I moved in the middle of high school to Nashville. Was that hard? It was pretty hard. I've been going to school with the same kids kindergarten through 10th grade. Those are all the people in my life and then we all moved. Were you cool at the new school? Did you fit right in or was it hard? Obviously it was hard. We just asked you that question. Yes, it's hard. I mean in class. In class was I cool? I don't know if I could be cool in class. I wasn't a class clown. I wasn't doing that. You didn't make a lot of jokes? I think I was probably thinking funny stuff. I made a lot of jokes. You made a lot of jokes? Oh, yeah. Did you make a lot of jokes? Well, I wasn't the class clown. I would say stuff under my breath to my friends to make them laugh. Oh, yeah. But most comedians aren't the class clown. I had no concept for getting an education. I was like, I'm just here because they're making me come. Oh, really? Yeah. I mean. Did you ever have first day of school nerves or excitement? Yeah, every time. I mean, yeah, there's always some nerves. It's also always like I don't want to go back to school. I'm enjoying the summer break. Oh, look at this. Oh, yeah. Wow. These are the St. B. gold team. This is how I used to pose in every picture right here. Is it because football players would never smile? That's a good look for you. Thanks, dude. Just a frown. Almost a little bit of a flat top going on here. You almost had like a military cut that you let grow out a little bit. That's like the same hair I have right now. Yeah. You know, I've always had that weird widow's picture. But it feels a little more flat-top-ish in this picture. I think it's because just my mom was cutting my hair. Yeah. You know, because they didn't put a whole lot of thought into the shape of it or anything. What about that guy next to you? Are you still in contact with that guy? That's Wallace Harvey. Yeah, I know Wallace really well, actually. It's a tough picture of him. Which kid did not start? There's six of you there. I don't know. Who wrote the bitch? I don't know. Not the girl. I don't know. That's an interesting question. I don't remember a whole lot about this team. I like that you got to keep the ball, though. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Got it between my feet. Yeah, you're a real star. Were you guys good? I don't know. This does not look like a good basketball team. Your friend who's having a rough picture today, he's the best player. He looks like the best player on the team. Yeah. What about this team? This is the team for the next year. All right. Well, that's a lot different. You guys have grown. Yeah, you look like you've aged a lot in one year here. I remember all these kids, man. What happened to the girl? The girl got kicked off? Yeah, we're trying to win some games. Get out of here. How about that? Yeah. And your other buddy, Walter, or whatever, he's off the team too. Wallace. Wallace, yeah. Well, he was a grade above me, so I think he's in a different league now that I've moved up a year. So these are fun to look at. I haven't looked at these pictures in a long time. but no, we were not a basketball school. Who's on the wall back there? That's Mary. Okay. She's the mother of Jesus. And in the Catholic Church, they like her a lot. Gotcha. They do like her a lot. Mm-hmm. What? They love her. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They talk about her. They're like, you know, I'm like, that's not even really a main character, and they really get into it. Well, she's a supporting actress. Yeah. Like, probably, yeah. Oscar. Oscar nom. I mean, she plays a big role. That's what I'm saying. Or she's probably lead actress. If the Bible were a movie, she'd be nominated lead actress, I think. I'm watching... Ruth. They wrote a whole book after Ruth. They were trying to be nice. Got the woman in here. Old men names. Let's throw Ruth the bone. Who talks about Ruth? I talk about her a lot. Have you really? Tell me one thing. Oh, that's your wife's name. Was she named after the book of Ruth? Yeah. Okay. Alright. I'll stop talking about it. No, I mean, to your point, so her brothers are John and Stephen. There's a million male biblical names. There's Stephen in the Bible. Yeah, who's the first Christian martyr. Oh, okay. And then for girls, Mary. Yeah, a lot of Mary. And okay, I guess we'll go with Ruth If you want to do that, Esther Mary Magdalene, that's still Mary So I'm watching, you guys know this show The Chosen? I've heard of it I've heard you and Nate talk about it on the podcast I just started it, so I didn't know anything about it He mentioned it on Rogan, I think Oh, that's where he talked about it, yeah Yeah, I just started it And I had a hard time getting into it Because they created Because you know how it ends they create backstories for these biblical characters that aren't in the bible artistic license so I had a hard time I won't watch it because of that? I don't like any of that stuff when they create stories that aren't in the bible what Jesus looks like we're not supposed to do that would you watch a movie in the first person from Jesus' perspective so you never see him. Oh, maybe. Maybe. Like a body cam? That's interesting. Like if Jesus had body cam footage. We're coming in! Body cam footage of the crucifixion would be tough. So you didn't see the Passion of the Christ? No. Yeah, for the same reason? Well, I didn't see that one because they talk about, you know, the whole scene of what happens to Jesus. And I'm like, I don't want to see that. Yeah. That seems too brutal to me. I don't want to watch it. But you'll read about it. Yeah. But God forbid somebody put it on film. Well, they're allowed to do it. I just don't want to say it. Okay. Like UFC, for instance, right? Like I'm glad it exists. People love it. But I don't want to watch people get beat up like that. I can't handle it. Yeah. That's fair. Even fictional stuff, for the most part, it's okay. Actually, I like Quentin Tarantino the most because most of his movies, it seems so wild. And it's so over the top. That it seems fictional because it's like Reservoir Dogs I can't handle. But the others are so over the top that it's like, this is silly. But like Saving Private Ryan, like war movies. Yeah, too realistic, too. It's very painful. I hate it. Well, anyway, The Chosen, I had some of the same issues because they're creating these stories of these people that, you know, they take an artistic license. But now we're getting into the parts that are in the Bible, and so I'm starting to get on board with it. Pretty good. Well, I hear nothing but good things. People love it. People are always telling me to watch it. And I know all the stories in the Bible. I've read them so many times. It's nice now to even do a pretend thinking about what they look like or putting some personality to the characters. You know what I mean? Yeah, sure. Now, to your point, Jesus does some stuff like they humanize him so much. I'm like, I don't know. Would Jesus really hit his thumb hammering or whatever? Probably not. Oh, yeah, he would. He probably would, but it's just it's hard to think of him that way. I don't think Jesus misses. He hits his thumb if he wants to. I don't know. That's fair. So there's some of that that's already going to – I don't even know how we got off to that. Oh, yeah, I asked you about the picture on the wall. Oh, yeah, yeah. That spiral. But Mary Magdalene is a big role in the show. That's nice. So anyway. So what about going to school for the first time? Would you guys like – you had like a whole going to the – where would you go shop? Yeah, that's what I was about to ask. Oh, was it? Yeah. Where would you go shop for your new clothes? What would you like to get? My older brother's dresser. That's where I got all my clothes from. What kind of stuff would he have? We had school uniforms. I always had school uniforms. That makes it easy. I actually like that. Well, now in Alabama, it's all the public schools have uniforms. Really? Most of them. At least in Montgomery County. I like a school uniform thing. I'm surprised. Well, I like to get wild with it, but yeah, when you don't have a lot of money, you end up feeling self-conscious about your clothes that you're wearing to school. That's a big part of the reasoning is that it just alienates kids from each other, and it causes all kinds of problems. Yeah, it's like Tommy Hilfiger was the thing when I was growing up, right? And it's like I was never going to get Tommy Hilfiger, right? And it's like – Yeah, you got Timmy Hilfiger. You're going with something off-brand. But I'd be wearing like Duckhead sometimes. Bugle Boy. Bugle Boy. or, you know, I really pleaded to not get clothes at Walmart. That was my thing. I was like, anything, we'll go to Sears, we'll go to Gapers. Well, not Gapers, we got to stay away from those. But, you know, and so it was hard. So I ended up getting more creative with what I would wear, you know. And so I think it, you know, created some creativity. But it would have been nice to just wake up and put the same thing on. Absolutely. Every day. And knowing that your friends are all going to be wearing the same thing. Yes. Yeah. I think it annoyed me. We'd have dress down days at school. Usually it was like a fundraiser. You'd bring $2 in and you'd get to dress down. So the kids that got no money still wearing the uniform. Yeah. We still found ways to alienate the kids. But looking back, it's like I didn't mind the uniforms at all. They're probably a good thing. Yeah. Yeah, I can see that. I don't think in elementary school I was even thinking about just whatever my mom bought. That's probably what I wore. But by high school, Lebanon, the options were pretty limited. And we had one clothing store that opened goodies. I remember goodies. And to us, that was high fashion. Yeah. So you'd buy a nice shirt from there and then go to school the next week or the first day of school, and there'd be three different guys wearing the same shirt. Oh, yeah. That's the problem. Yeah, and you get some new clothes, and it's like, Well, there's still five days in a week. Yeah. So you're like, you're trying to rotate them out. Well, I told a story on here before you joined us, Dusty, that my first day of my senior year in high school, I wore a new kids on the block shirt to school because somehow I missed it. That's not cool. Was it a fresh one? I'd just been to their concert. Oh, no. So this is fresh as you can get. Almost like a faded one you could get away with being like, this is my sister's. I'm wearing it ironically. Aaron said that. I think before. I said, once you realize everybody's making fun of it, just go, yeah, isn't it hilarious that I'm wearing this? Yeah. That's all it would have taken. That's how cool I am. I should have done that, but I did not. Yeah, I had a couple. I had a Toby Keith shirt I remember wearing. I think I wore it like one time. Didn't feel it. Nobody was making fun of Toby Keith, but it just felt weird. What was the shirt? It was Big Dog or something. Dog. Oh, yeah. There was a Big Dog There was some other stuff But there was some like Big Dog Like if you can hang with a big dog stay on the porch Yeah stuff like that I remember those shirts Those were big dress down days People were going to put the big dog shirts on. That was after my time. I remember. You want to know something weird? Okay. Well, that's why it's like any of those shirts I can think to bring up are all inappropriate. it because you go to like the you go down to Panama City and go to one of those beach stores and they had all the I had a lot of shirts like that I would get in trouble all the time about shirts they're all like Spencers type yeah like like you know not airbrush but like you know I can't even describe some of the things that I had I shouldn't have been wearing something crass yeah yes but nobody was nobody was monitoring what I was wearing by the time I got to high school, I just was, you know, I was getting myself dressed and heading out. Even in earlier school, my mom worked third shift. Most of the time I'd catch the bus before she even got home. So nobody knew what I was wearing. Did you guys ride the bus to school? I never did, no. Because your parents or your dad was driving. Yeah, my parents worked at the school or I had older siblings that would drive me. But in Alabama, I don't even think we had the option to take a bus for a private Catholic small private Catholic school. They don't have busing, you know. I rode the bus, usually about half and half. I'd ride the bus to school. My mom would pick me up or the other way around. She'd take me to school. I'd ride it home. How do you coordinate stuff like that back then? No cell phone. I guess you just, you know, they would give you just the, you know, my mom would just be like, I'm going to pick you up. You know, or I guess you might call the school and say, hey, let Dusty know I'll be picking him up today or let Dusty know to ride the bus. Okay, but it's a lot of say, tell this to this person. Oh, yes. It's a lot of give this message to. I think it was mostly just they tell you that morning, and that's the plan. But do you remember there being a lot of, like, problems caused by this lack of communication, or were you even thinking about it at all? I don't think there was ever problems. I mean, maybe one or two. I got banned from the bus for a little while one time for throwing pencils. but but that didn't have anything to do with no cell phones no that was only like a week too I knew I wasn't I wasn't malicious I think school bus drivers have one of the most stressful jobs out there dealing with all those kids and driving this huge gigantic vehicle yeah and the kids aren't even wearing seatbelts no and they're just going crazy no seatbelts at all I threw up on the school bus one time It was three to a seat. And I was middle. And it hit the seat in front of us. It went all over the other kids. I remember the kid digging throw up out of the crease of his bag with a pencil. Being like, you're going to buy me a new bag. And I'm like, well, I'm about to get off at a trailer park here. So you just hold your breath there, buddy. You shut that laptop up. Yeah. What did you throw up from? Just like general being a kid? Yeah, I mean, food was never good, and who knows? I mean, the food at the school was always crap. I mean, it was. Yeah, I was going to ask you, do you take your lunch or do you do cafeteria food? I do about half, not half and half. I take my lunch sometimes, but, you know. That's probably about 10% of the time I buy lunch. I had a sack lunch most of the time. Did you ever have a lunch box? Never really a lunch box. It was just a brown paper bag. I had a lunch box as a kid. Do you remember what it was? Yeah, they got a G.I. Joe and a He-Man. Those are my favorite two cartoons. I had Super Friends and Duke's a Hazzard. Oh, man. Oh, yeah. I would have beat y'all up in LA. What are you talking about? Those are cool. They were cool back then. No. I had a little G.I. Joe lunchbox with a little G.I. Joe thermos inside. Sometimes you put soup in there. It's not cool to like stuff, dude. Uh-oh. Yeah. I'm just kidding. We were okay liking things back then. That might be a different generation. It's not cool to care, dude. Even as you got older, for sure it wasn't. Yeah, I'm just kidding. For sure, though, when you got older, it was like you wear one strap of the backpack, and you'd rather give yourself back problems than just wear it correctly. Yeah, because it looks so cool to just carry one. Yeah. Yeah, the movie 21 Jump Street. They got to talk about that. Very funny. Oh, yeah, okay. Yeah. But that was true. I mean, Hannah would talk about, you know, growing up in Canada, the cool thing was to not wear coats. Like if you were like cool, you would just be freezing to death. I think that's what's going on now. Kids or at least boys will wear shorts to school when it's 10 degrees outside. I used to do that. I'd get that. I would pride myself. No, I don't need a jacket and I'm wearing shorts. I think you had a school uniform. Flip flops. I'm talking about just like in general. Oh, yeah. You know, weekends. What about using the bathroom at school? Like number two. Would you do it? I never did it. I don't think I ever did it a single time in my whole career of high school. I don't think I did either. I was so terrified. Dude, in high school, you're looking for, yeah, I'll go take a break. I'd rather check out of school. High school is like a job at an office. Yeah, I'm going to go use the bathroom. Are you playing a horse with no name? I never would do it. I never remember. I bet I was too scared to do that. But high school, it's like, I'm running the show now. I don't care. Yeah. Let them in. I'm taking care of business. I was not for it. I like to be very discreet about mine. We had a poop bandit in my high school. Ever talk about that? Yeah. We had a guy who was vandalizing the bathrooms with... Oh, gross. Yeah. Hence the name, the poop bandit. That's disgusting. You want to pass out right now? It was not me. And I don't know who it was. But it was a thing for a while. That's disgusting. I agree. Now, did you guys do recess, or was that banned by the time you got in school? I did recess in primary school, but it was done by elementary school. Primary was first, kindergarten, first, second. I don't think we had it after that. I think middle school we had little breaks, but it wasn't called recess. It was like a 15-minute break or something. K through six we had legit play kickball, dodgeball. We had PE, and I guess that's probably what recess was for us. When you're younger, you have just like a general go out in the playground and do whatever. First second, kindergarten first second, we had that. I don't remember it after that. You don't think in third grade you had recess? I don't think so. Wow. I think it was PE. So you didn't have recess. You're learning how to sew. Did you go to school at a sweatshop? That's what it feels like. It sounds like it, yeah. It does sound like it. Yeah. We had portables. So in a way, I did live in a trailer for a while. Guess what portables are? No. I had art in a portable. Basically, if they didn't have enough classrooms, they would bring in... Oh, it was like a trailer. Yeah. Oh, yeah. We had some... I took some classes in portables. I'd never heard them called that. Did you just call them trailers? Yeah, just trailers. I just called it art class. There's enough trailers around and we didn't even think it was weird. We were complaining. Dusty's like, this is nice. Yeah, this is a good trailer, honestly. This is a double wide? Yeah. Did you do a lot of after school activities? Just sports. All the way through? Yeah, all the way through. I did some sports, but for the most part, I was heading on to the house. I didn't do a lot of activities. Did you do Campus Life or anything? I did Campus Life, yeah. Matter of fact, I did. You know what? The Campus Life people from Orlando came to see me not long ago, and I've been wanting to wear that shirt in here. Campus Life was like a Christian kind of after-school thing, and in high school, I was really into Campus Life. I loved it. I became a leader at Campus Life. Really? And then I started throwing a lot of parties, and I got demoted from leader. They didn't kick me out of campus. I was like, we really can't have you being a leader. We're going to throw a lot of parties. I go, wow. This is in high school? Yeah. I loved it. Middle school. Yeah. The enrages of the trailer. That was great. Yeah, see, by high school, by 10th grade, we had moved out of the trailer. And so 10th grade, I lived in a house just a mile in front of the school. so um you know so i would walk to school a lot before i got a license and it was great it was so easy to invite people i might just go down this road yeah last house on the right you'll you'll hear it you'll hear it follows the music i'm the campus life leader senior year was hot for me i really made some waves by senior year really high school you kind of came into your own yeah it was hot you let your hair down yeah you know you're popular yeah it was a hot year for I don't like to use the word popular, but I was cool. You know what I mean? Popular seems more douchey. I was cool. People liked me. Yeah. You were a well-liked guy. Yeah. That's fair to say. Yeah. Yeah. What about you, Brian? Well-liked? Yeah. I mean, I think I was liked. Yeah. I wasn't popular. But were there, when you think of high school, were there, like, that's the popular group or whatever? There was, and I can't say that I was in that group. Maybe I was in the minor leagues of that group. I knew some people in the farm. I do feel like my senior year was by far the most fun year because, I mean, I guess that's true for most people. But there's something about when you're the oldest ones, you just have a different attitude. You've been waiting four years to run this place. Ninth grade was really my worst year, I think, just in the way that I – and I don't think it had necessarily anything to do with changing schools to high school. But it was just like that's the year I felt the most insecure in my life. So it was a real turnaround for my senior year. Well, that's probably true. Freshman year is probably the toughest. I mean, I wasn't getting picked on or anything. I just was like. Well, you're going through some changes personally at that time in life. Yeah. You know? There's a lot going on. There is a lot going on. I get that. Yeah. I don't know if ninth grade. I didn't peak in ninth grade either. I mean, the size difference is some of the kids. Yeah, and it's men and kids. It's freshmen in high school that haven't hit puberty yet. And you're in the same locker room with grown men now. Yeah, I remember there was a guy, I don't know if he was in 11th grade or 12th grade when I was in 9th grade, named Rex Story. And I remember seeing that guy and I was like, this is a grown man. Yeah. He's going to the school? He had a 5 o'clock shadow all the time. This guy's in school? Shaving between classes. Yeah. Who is this guy? So I looked up, number two pencils were very big back in my day. I got banned on the bus for throwing them. And then you got stabbed by one. Well, I think that, it may have been that. It might have been a lead pencil. That's what a number two pencil is, right? Well, I mean like a... A mechanical pencil. Yeah, yeah. Did you have mechanical pencils growing up? Yeah. Okay. All right. Yeah. I mean, we didn't use them much, but they did exist. We had the pens that, like four different colors. Oh, yeah. Oh, those were neat. Yeah, purple, green. Yeah. Do you have the erasable pens? Those were so weird. Yeah, yeah, they were weird. I used to hate those erasable pens. Yeah. They didn't write well. They didn't erase well. What are we doing? I got an erasable pen. You mean a pencil? Yeah. What about a Trapper Keeper? You know what? I have a Trapper Keeper at home from middle school that I almost brought, but I thought, you know what? I bet people know what it looks like. I wish you had it. What is it? I don't even know what you're talking about. A Trapper. You don't know what a Trapper Keeper is? A Trapper Keeper. Yeah. Is it like a... You don't know either, Lord? I have a Trapper Keeper in perfect condition. Ah, we should have brought it. I should have brought it. I still don't know what it is. Well, it's a folder. It's like a three-ring binder. Well, that's a mechanical pistol. It folds, and then it has another piece that comes over and Velcros on, and then it has other little pockets in it. It had a lot of cool designs on it. None of those are. It doesn't open up like an accordion? No. One of those? No, it's just a three-ring binder, really, with another piece that comes over. That one right there on the right with the football, that's a Trapper Keeper. This one right here? No, the one far right, yeah. Yeah, Trapper Keeper. Okay. Yeah, that's it. I should have brought it. It's in such good condition. What's inside of it? A three ring binder with other pockets. No, but what's inside yours? Oh, yeah. I had comic cards from when I was a kid. Oh, okay. Comic cards? That's what I thought you said, too. Like Marvel comics. Oh, comic. Like a comedy club comic card. Yeah. Still keep it open. I hated the feature. I have a lot of comic cards from when I worked at the restaurant that I love to keep. They were just not always about me, just funny ones. I love those. You had comment cards at Hyman's? Yeah. Any mean about you? Not really mean about me that I was able to get. Now, there could have been some that I didn't acquire. But, yeah, I mean, there would be some mean about the restaurant or funny or nice about me that I liked. But, yeah, I mean, a guy was, like, giving me a real attitude one time when I was working there. And I seen him pull the comment card out of the thing. So I take a pen out, click it, hand it to him. Oh, dude. I was like, yeah. That's a power move. Get it, dude. I was like, get it. Fill it out. Wow. Yeah. Ooh. And comment. Yeah. Did – we had on our pencils little – I don't know what you call them, little rubber things you put on the pencil to kind of grip it. Oh, just grip. Yeah. That's what I'm talking about? Yeah. Oh, yeah, big time. Yeah, those are really fun. They're supposed to keep your hand from cramping up. But if you're left-handed, like me, there's no way. I've never used these triangular ones. These look. Well, that's what I was talking about. That's probably the original. I'm talking about they were just flush with the pencil. By the time you had come along, they perfected it. Let's keep it from rolling off the desk. Oh, that's what it was for. I think it would play that role. Was that an eraser, too? Could you use that as an eraser? I think there were some. You remember that little eraser that went over the top? Oh, big time. Yeah, those were fun. Those were a good time. Yeah. what about the mechanical pencil that you would twist and the lead would come out real far you never saw that there's a yellow one and it would twist at the end and the lead would come out real far I think it was made by mead Aaron did you did you use pencils in school mechanical yeah yeah we ran the gamut I read where I was None of those. Doing the research. Oh, maybe that pencil mate. There it is. Yeah. Those. I know what you're talking about now. The SAT is going all digital starting next year. Oh, wow. So no more number two pencils needed. That's a huge blow for the number two pencil industry because that's kind of the last time you needed to use one. They should have been prepping for this. Yeah. They should have been getting themselves prepared. How do they do it digitally now? Do you go in like a voting booth? Do you go in and take it? That's a good question. I don't know. I read that it's supposed to be more fair. Right then, it did seem like an ad rate. He goes, that's a good question. Well, I got to look at papers here. We'll provide devices to students who don't own their own computers. Some people don't. Oh, okay. So you just attend schools without access to technology. Do it on like a Chromebook in a classroom. I guess it will now be shorter, moving from three hours to just two hours, and give students more time per question. You should be able to take the SAT and then just get your score back that night. Wow. Yeah. What was that reaction? I know. It sounded like I was thinking that's a hot take. Wow. Did you ever, like, cheat off people's papers or have other people cheat off your papers? Like, in class, when you'd be copying off them? I was in Spanish in 11th grade. I didn't want to take it. You had to take one foreign language. And my teacher was pregnant. And so halfway through the year, she left. And we got a substitute. And this substitute, there was these two girls, Haley and Katie. And they would let me copy. And they were very good at Spanish. They would let me copy their paper every day. The teacher knew it was happening. They would just straight up let me copy. Wow. Nobody cared. Finals time came. The substitute wouldn't let me sit next to them. so the entire final was in Spanish I didn't know a single word no bueno I was the first one done there was no point in even reading I just went all the way through it I failed that test so bad I had like 100 in the class but I failed the final so bad I almost failed the class that's why the teacher let you do it but that's really But she's, you know what I mean? That was really, I don't appreciate her method. Because it's like, come on. And it's not become, it's not been a problem for me to not know it. To not know Spanish. But it would have been nice to know it, right? Yeah, but I bet Haley and Katie don't even know it. No. You know what I mean? Not from that class. If you were doing stand-up in Spanish right now, I think your career would be a lot different. Yeah, for sure. You would have definitely sold out in Austin. For sure, yeah. You know? Yeah. I mean, yeah. Well, you're right. It could have played a role. You do one night in English, do the next night in Spanish. But who knows? You know, what if I'd learned Spanish and end up, you know, going into a different field? I may be more successful in another area. You know what I mean? Who knows what road I would have went down? Maybe learning would have become something important to me, and I would have said, you know what? Actually, learning a language has opened different parts of my mind. This earth is spinning so fast. I could be a scientist or something, talking about planets. You would have gone to D.C. for a vacation. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm glad that Dusty doesn't exist. You'd be an astronomer. Yeah. That's the end of it. You know. Dusty's playing. Maybe I would have got so into languages, I would have been like, let's learn another one. Yeah. And then another one. But you know what? My substitute teacher, she didn't know anything about Spanish. Right. Right. You know what I mean? Don't be like, you got to learn, but you can't teach it. Mm-hmm. That's why she needs Babble. That's what I was hoping. I was hoping that would be a sponsor. That would be great. Yeah. That would have been perfect. episode. Do you guys ever have the dream that you can't remember your locker combination and have to get into it? It's a very common dream apparently. Never had it. I had a dream. I haven't had it in a couple years now, but I used to have a recurring dream that I was in college and it was the day of final exams and I found out I was in a class that I had never been to. I was signed up for a class I didn't know about. And I had that dream. I mean, and then I'd wake up and be like, oh, dude, I graduated four years ago. Yeah, such a relief. Yeah, I don't know what that is in my brain, but I think that's a common one. It is. I've had that too. God, isn't that bizarre? Yeah. What is that? I don't know. I never have school dreams, but I will tell you something that happened. My mom brought up some middle school yearbooks to me, and I had seen the high school yearbooks over the years. I had looked at those. The middle school yearbook, it felt like it opened parts of my brain, memories that had been shut down as I'm turning these pages and seeing this. And it shook me up for a couple of weeks. This is about a year ago. And I just was like, it was just bringing back, like, not necessarily bad memories, but just things I had completely forgotten. These weren't memories you've repressed. These are just stuff you forgot about throughout life. It just was like, because I remember high school well, but I don't really think about middle school that often. And he was just bringing that up, and I was like, this is weird. And I think I might have had a couple of dreams around that time. It shook me in a weird way. I can see that. Just brings you back to memory lane. I went back to my elementary school a few years ago for some event and went into some of the same rooms, like the cafeteria. It seemed so big to me as a kid, and now it just seems so tiny. I couldn't believe it was the same room. Yeah. Yeah, everything seems so much smaller, right? Yeah. There's a crazy scene in The Office where they go back to Pam's High School when they're doing that career event. Have you seen The Office? I've seen a lot of it. I've not seen this episode. She goes back to the art room thinking that a picture she drew when she was in high school would still be hanging up. Do you remember that part of it? She's like, I thought it might be hanging up. It's 35 at this point. I don't think she's supposed to be that old. But to your point, if your terrible drawing is going to be hanging up here. Yeah. 17 years later. Yeah. Well, that part always annoyed me. Well, that's what people always think, though, in a way. People always think, like, when they leave a job or they leave a school that, oh, they're going to remember me. And it's like, when you work at a restaurant and you think, the moment you leave, people are just like, can I get your shift? Yeah. You know what I mean? We had kids. You have this. I don't know if this is common or if this is just a my school thing, but we had kids who graduated the year before. They would show up the next year and just come to class, like the first, second day of school. Like, isn't that funny? We're here, but we graduated. Wow. In uniform. That's weird. It is weird. I remember thinking, God, these kids are nerds, dude. You're done with high school. Get out of here. It's not funny that you're here. Well, if you peak in high school, I think it is hard to let it go. But most of those kids. I think they even gave it a chance. I'm assuming most of the kids at your school went to college afterwards. Yeah. So shouldn't they have been at college somewhere? Well, I guess maybe it started early. Yeah. Yeah, that's weird. My high school gave us the option. I remember my senior year. They gave us the option. We voted as a senior class. Do you want to extend the school day? by 15 minutes every day, or we start the school year a week early. So we started July 31st that year in July. Rather than just having an extra 15 minutes each day. Yeah, we voted on that. I voted to start early too. I thought it's going to be tough for a week, but then every day, the whole school year I'd be thinking, gosh, I'd be out of here by now. this last 15 minutes is brutal. I think I would have done that too. Yeah. It's like, let's just get it over. Probably at the time, but I think I would go the extra 15. Every day though, dude. Give me that week off. Yeah. If it was on the back end, it would be more appealing. Oh, that's true. Yeah. You end a little bit earlier. Yeah. What about now though? Let's say you're doing standup and they're like, all right, they're going to go. You come in on Thursday, do a show on Thursday or the Friday, the two shows on Friday, two shows on Saturday, you'd do an extra 15. What would you do? I think the show would suffer if I had to do it. The audience votes. They're like, you know what, do a Thursday. Yeah. How about do a Wednesday as well? Do them all. That's a good question. I don't know. In college, our classes, Monday, Wednesday, and Friday were 50 minutes, and Tuesday and Thursday were an hour 15. And I like the Monday, Wednesday, Friday classes better. Even though I went three times a week just because hour 15 felt so long. Yeah. I just wanted to get out of there. See, block scheduling came in while I was in school. So we were doing six classes a day, sometimes seven, for about an hour. And then after ninth grade and tenth grade, we went to block scheduling where we did four classes a day, all about an hour and a half. Really? Yeah. An hour and a half class is tough, man. Yeah. And then you've got to leave and go right to another one and start it? But it was great in the sense that, like, you know, you'd have your two main classes, your two, and then you'd do that half the year. And then the second half of the year, you'd switch to four other classes. Now, let me ask you a more extreme version of this. So my high school in Alabama, Catholic high school, in the early 90s, I think, the senior class voted to move to a four-day school week. so they went like 8 to 5 Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday then they had Fridays off and they did that for one year and then they all voted like let's go back oh wow that's a long day that's a really long day to be in school and it's long for the teachers, it's long for everybody and if you play sports what do you do, stay until 7? we used to probably stay that late anyway but you'd stay way later than you would If you can't start practice until 5.45 every day, that's tough on everybody. Was it cool having your dad as the principal, or was it not fun? It was convenient sometimes. I'd know things before other people, that kind of stuff. Do you think that's why you weren't class clown? Because you're like, there's immediate consequences if I'm getting in trouble here. I think actually if I'm being honest it gave me a little more leeway with people because the dynamic between me and the teachers was different because your bad's their boss yeah essentially so that probably played into it I don't know it was just never that there were always guys that were funnier than me you know that were like doing physical stuff getting big laughs you know and I was never that guy but I like snow days were big yeah And so my school here in Hendersonville, Tennessee, we had maybe two snow days when I was there. And it was a big deal to get a snow day. Sumner County Public Schools, if there's a cold breeze, they go, we're out for a week. Almost every public school in Tennessee. Yeah, they're like, oh, we can't do it. We were out all the time. And my dad would wake up at like 4 a.m. He would drive to the school to see the roads. He'd drive, like, back roads and be like, the roads are fine out here. And we'd be the only school in the county open all the time, dude. Did parents like that or did they get mad? I don't know if the parents liked it. The kids weren't pumped about it. I'm sure. You know, so I would be getting – If the parents still have to go to work, they like it. That's probably true. But if the parents like, you know, my particular road is dangerous, whatever, you know. Your dad's like, well, I'll drive there and see. Yeah. Really? I drove by your house last night. Everything's fine. Would that be an excuse absence if they said, hey, it's not safe? I think so. Yeah. I think so. I love that your dad would make the drive. Oh, dude. My dad, when the Nashville flood happened, the big one. Come on in. Yeah. It's not over our neck. The JP2 in Hendersville, it was like a moat around it. Yeah. It was so flooded, and you could not get to it. We had to take our AP test that weekend. And they were like, well, we're going to have to reschedule because the AP tests, the physical tests are in the building. And my dad got in a rowboat. My dad got in a boat and went to the school to get the tests and then took them back in a boat. And we took the test, like, off campus somewhere. Wow, your dad was serious. He's not going to let us get behind on stuff just because of the weather, you know. I thought you were going to say he helicoptered in. I like that. I like the boat, though. I like the idea of your dad rescuing the test. The tests are trapped. There's all kinds of animals in there getting drowned. You just got to grab these tests real quick. They're like, oh, Mr. Weber, you're here. He's like, I'm just here for the test. I don't have enough room for you in the boat. Were chalkboards still a thing when you were in school? We were fading them out. We started chalkboard when I was in school. Actually, I feel like I'm the in-between. You are for us. You are, yeah. And then it went all dry erase. By the time I was in high school, it was all dry erase. Like a whiteboard. Yeah. Did you? In Alabama, we were all whiteboards. When I came to Tennessee, every classroom had a smart board. Wow. That's not what I thought you were going to say. I thought you were like, y'all still hedgehog boards here. No. Smart board. So is that like, were you operating from an iPad, or was it like a TV that you could touch? It was. You gasped. It was still a projected image, but you could touch and control things by touching the screen. Wow. What about the thing, the little box that had like a glass top with a light in it, and then that had a mirror, and then it would project it, and they would have little plastic. And even like you could roll the plastic sometimes. It was in that thing you had earlier. I forgot what it's called. It was called a projector, maybe. If you scroll down, it's on there. And it had, you know, they could write on it with the little dry erase markers, and it would show up. What that right? Overhead projector. Overhead projector, yeah. We use these. Oh, yeah. That was big time. Plenty of these. The overhead projector was big time. Yeah. You could write right off. If you had a, you know, an erasable marker, you could write right on the glass. Really? Yeah. Oh, man. I mean, it was big time. I would never do that. I loved an overhead projector. Yeah. But once you get a smart board, you're like, oh, these overheads are weak. These overheads are weak. Yeah. Well, obviously, they didn't have cell phones when I was in school. They weren't invented, but I bet it was pretty crazy maybe when you were in high school. Not for me either, yeah. Cell phone was probably invented, but it was not prevalent. No smartphones. Yeah. I didn't get a cell phone until my sophomore year of high school. I didn't have a smartphone until my sophomore year of college. Okay. So I had like a dumb cell phone. Yeah. Through high school. Yeah. Still a bit of an issue with people texting. I didn't have texting in high school. So maybe I did towards the end, but it was not that big of an issue. It's probably insane right now. Oh, yeah. You're doing everything on your phone. I think they got to a point where they're like, they can't even tell you to put your phones away. They're like, we just got to figure out how to teach you. They should do what Xanies does and have the yonder bag. You know, yonder bag. Schools are actually yonder's, some of their biggest clients. Oh, yeah. That's what they should have. You lock your phone up in a little pouch at the beginning of the day, and then at the end of the day, they open it for you. Yeah. That's the way they should do it. Yeah. Yeah. And I want to say, I invited Harper Bargazzi to come on to tell us about what school's like today. She declined the offer. Tough to get a Bargazzi on here. It is. I asked Laura. I asked Laura. Laura said no as well. So I got to talk to you guys. They moved out of here. They're not even here. We don't even know what's going on. We just show up. But the, yeah, I mean. Do you have a pistol shot where I'm like that? Oh, yeah. I love the pencil sharpener. This was an excuse to get out of your chair. Yeah. Yeah. You know? Oh, yeah. If you sat on the other side of the room, pick a sharp pencil. You'd walk around, see what's going on. And there's nothing like a freshly sharpened pencil. Oh, that's great. Especially from one of those bad boys. Yeah. Dude, the electric ones never worked as well. Nah, it wasn't as good. It wasn't as satisfying, you know? Yeah. Just to really feel it. I have one of these in my house. Oh, yeah? Just randomly, just on a wall. I haven't used it you have it now? yeah oh right now wow okay my grandmother had one growing up so maybe that's just a thing how old was your house? like old? 50s and 60s yeah maybe yeah they just came with pencil sharpeners back then before writing stuff down you were using number two pencils all the time gotta sharpen it yeah wow what an industry number two pencils used to be what a fall from grace yeah they ran the country back in the day yeah what happened number one? what about pencil break? Did you ever play that, number two pencils, where you're breaking each other's pencils? No. Well, we used to play that a lot, where you hold it, pencil. That's why you got stabbed before? No, I got stabbed for... We don't have to get into it. It wasn't a game. It wasn't a game. Yeah, not getting stabbed. That was never a game. But pencil break was, you know, you could snap it, and then also thump. Did you play that, where you'd hold your knuckles out like that, and you'd thump each other's knuckles? You ever do that? I don't know what you're doing. Isn't that cool? You don't see that? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, like a little tracer? It's like flimsy. It's an optical illusion. It looks like it's bending and flexible. Yeah, okay. See that? Oh, yeah. It's pretty crazy. That's a solid physics. What about pencils in the nose? Would you do that? I like to put pencils in the nose, and then I can hold a pencil with my chin. And, you know, like, this is not a pencil. I can't do this. But, you know, it's also been a long time since I've done it. Yeah. And then you do this mustache. Before I had a real mustache. For the record, Nate's back next week. This is the good stuff. This is what I've been waiting for. This is what I'm talking about. This is what school's really all about. This is what we were doing in school. What about football, like with the little paper? Oh, yeah. Paper football is huge. Paper football, paper airplanes. I remember, do you have nap time in kindergarten? Oh, yeah. We'd play paper football during nap time. We'd have a towel. You brought a towel to use as, like, your blanket. Yeah. Like a bath towel. Yeah, I remember that. And we played paper football. What did you sleep on? On the floor. I never slept during nap time. I think you're supposed to just sleep on the towel. We had a little mat that we would bring. I guess you could bring a mat. I think I did have a mat. I did have a little mat, actually. We had bath towels. This is the late 70s. Yeah, I know. So, not in kindergarten. I didn't go to kindergarten, but first grade. I mean, this is like, yeah, I mean, to me, this is the stuff. On the bus, it was pencil break. It was thump. You didn't do that, though? You hold your knuckles out like that and you try to thump it real hard. Oh, we would do that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, pencils weren't involved. No, pencil. It was two. There's two different games. Okay. Thump and pencil break. Yeah. We would play this game. Oh, yeah. Remember that game where if you look at it below the waist, you punch them on the... I used to come home from middle school, just huge bruises all over my arm. My mom was like, what are you doing all day? I'm respecting the game. You have a joke about seeing your prank. And when I was in Fairhope this past weekend, somebody had poured laundry detergent in the water fountain, and it was bubbling out everywhere. Oh, that's, oof. Yeah. That probably cost a lot to fix. That probably caused some real problems. My buddy said that on this next door app, people were not happy. Yeah, dude. I hate that. Laundry detergent in the water system of the high school? No, it wasn't. This was just like the city fountain like there in Fairhope. Oh, like a decorative fountain. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Not like, I'm sorry. I thought you meant like the water system of the high school where like the water fountain. Like everybody's eating Tide Pods. No, no, no. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Like a decorative. Oh, okay. I kind of like that a little more. I thought y'all were taking it hard. I don't like it, but I don't like vandalism. But, you know, I was also in an Airbnb this weekend, and it was clear that you – Last week you talked about vandalizing stores the whole time. Well, I'm vandalizing a competition that's – That's different. That's an evil corporation. You know what I mean? Yeah. Not the city's water supply. Well, yeah. I don't think the decorative fountain's tied into the drinking water. That's where they get it. So all the wishing well pennies are down there, too? Yeah. That's where they get it. You know, copper's good for you. Yeah, all those water tastes weird. But I was in Airbnb, and they could have used too much fabric softener. And I woke up in the night, and all I could smell was I couldn't even sleep. I felt like I was just breathing in poison. Dude, I had a guy on the plane this morning that smelled so bad. Smelled so bad. Worst I've ever smelled a person. It was that seat in Southwest where there's no chair in front of me. Yeah. and then so the row right in front that guy smelled so he sat down Joe Kelly was with me he texted me he goes this dude stinks and then I caught a whiff of him I was like oh my god it was that bad and he kept sticking his arm out to touch to touch the like the window thing up and down and every time he did that I was like I was sleeping and it kept waking me up like oh he's reaching over you no just reaching to the side Just make a movement. There's no chair in front of me, so I'm catching all the backdraft from this dude. And he had, like, greased up, oiled hair. He spent some time on his hair, but he hadn't taken a shower in probably a week. Wow. I mean, it was my whole flight was this guy stuck. That's awful. Yeah. I was at the airport. I never, I forgot all about this until you talk about this. But this guy, I was sitting looking at the airline that was taking off. Yeah. And this guy was facing me. He had big headphones on. He was so hungover. He was making like these groaning, moaning noises, very loud in the airport, like he was just in horrific pain. Just, oh, he kept doing it. I don't know if he could even hear how loud he was being. Because he had the headphones on. Yeah. And his flight boarded and shut the door while he's just looking. And then he finally gets up and looks around and sees what's happening. He starts losing his mind at the counter. He's like, I'm right here. I've been right here the whole time. I was like, dude, you got to take those headphones off. I know. Yeah. You got to exist in the world. Yeah. Yeah. He missed his flight. He's sitting right there, obviously in a lot of hungover pain. And I'm like, oh, dude, you messed up. And it was so satisfying to me for some reason. You were glad it happened. But this has been a great podcast. Bit of a Cinderella story. this podcast. Real storybook podcast. Yeah. Fairytale ending, if you will. Yeah, I think the clock's about to strike midnight, ladies and gentlemen. And, all right, well, thank you guys. Brian Bates, Aaron Weber, Dusty Slay signing off. We're having a good time. Have a good time and we love you. Thank you.