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McLaren's Entry Level Car Costs $255,000?!

59 min
Apr 1, 202622 days ago
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Summary

Spike and Johnny discuss automotive accessories, the McLaren Artura entry-level supercar ($255K base), classic car emission exemption legislation, luxury watch crime trends, and various entertainment properties including Reacher and Taylor Sheridan's Marshal series.

Insights
  • Small, affordable vehicle accessories and maintenance can psychologically refresh ownership experience without major financial investment
  • McLaren's Artura, despite strong performance specs, fails to generate the emotional connection of previous McLaren models like the 720S
  • Luxury goods markets (watches, high-end cars) are increasingly targeted by organized crime for money laundering and asset theft
  • Self-driving vehicle adoption faces social resistance from both safety concerns and ideological opposition to automation
  • Classic car legislation balancing preservation with emissions requires nuanced definitions to prevent regulatory loopholes
Trends
Luxury watch theft and money laundering escalating dramatically (2.2M pounds in 10 weeks vs 516K for entire 2025)Organized crime using legitimate luxury businesses as fronts for financial crimesEmotional attachment to vehicles driven by incremental upgrades rather than major purchasesSelf-driving vehicle adoption creating social friction and safety perception gapsStreaming content prioritizing entertainment value over narrative coherence (Taylor Sheridan formula replication)Classic car values and collector interest remaining stable despite economic pressuresHybrid supercar market maturing with multiple competitors (Ferrari 296, Lamborghini Revuelto, McLaren Artura)Private jet charter market competing with traditional jet card modelsWatch collecting becoming mainstream through celebrity content and influencer culture
Topics
McLaren Artura specifications and market positioningClassic car emission exemption legislation (California)Luxury watch crime and money launderingSelf-driving vehicle safety and public perceptionVehicle accessory customization and ownership psychologySupercar value retention and depreciationPrivate aviation charter servicesCelebrity watch collectingTaylor Sheridan television formula analysisReacher TV series and action entertainmentTiger Woods vehicle accidentsWaymo autonomous vehicle incidentsRussell Crowe watch collection documentationPorsche 718 Cayman value retentionBrentwood neighborhood conflict incident
Companies
McLaren
Discussed Artura entry-level supercar with $255K base price, hybrid V6 twin-turbo specs, and comparison to competitors
Ferrari
Referenced 296 GTB as superior competitor to McLaren Artura; 812 Superfest value retention comparison
Porsche
718 Cayman identified as best value-retaining sports car over 5 years; GT3 RS and GT3 Touring models discussed
Lamborghini
Revuelto hybrid supercar mentioned as competitor to McLaren Artura with 900 horsepower
Waymo
Self-driving taxi service discussed in context of San Francisco incident with anti-robot protester
Ford
Jim Farley's podcast Drive mentioned; Farley is Ford CEO promoting new podcast season
Chevrolet
C8 Corvette mentioned as vehicle with strong value retention over 5-year period
Porsche Design
Mentioned as designer of Racetech product used for vehicle storage covers
Amazon
Referenced for affordable reading glasses used by Russell Crowe in watch collection video
Paramount Plus
Streaming platform hosting Taylor Sheridan's Marshal series discussed for entertainment value
People
Jim Farley
Guest on Spike's show promoting new season of Drive podcast; shared Pope stories
Russell Crowe
Featured in watch collection video discussing Italian watch brands and personal collection
Jay Leno
Championed classic car emission exemption bill in California legislature
Tiger Woods
Discussed recent vehicle rollover accident, second similar incident
Alan Richardson
Star of Reacher series; involved in Brentwood, Tennessee neighborhood motorcycle incident
Ronnie Taylor
Involved in altercation with Reacher actor; claimed victim status in media appearances
Shannon Harper
Guest on show representing Porsche Platica event in Knoxville, Tennessee May 3rd
Bertie Payne
Sentenced to 15 years for using watch business as money laundering front for drug dealing
Doug Fulop
Passenger in Waymo autonomous vehicle attacked by anti-robot protester in San Francisco
Tyler Sheridan
Creator of Marshal series and other Paramount+ shows; discussed for formulaic storytelling approach
Quotes
"I'm just not in love with this McLaren. I love McLarens, but I'm not in love with this one."
Johnny LiebermanMid-episode car review segment
"Minimal investment, maximum joy. Yeah. And then you watched your truck and you're very happy with this thing."
Spike FerestenAccessory discussion segment
"I'm not going to be a Ronnie Taylor. This guy just ran at 70, almost clipped the 525 and I went, I'm just not going to Ronnie Taylor it."
Johnny LiebermanReacher incident discussion
"We felt helpless. It was a self-driving Waymo. It just stopped."
Doug Fulop (referenced)Waymo incident segment
"This is the way to go. Take something new for your beloved car or truck and install it. Maybe it'll go wrong. Spend a half hour and you will feel great."
Spike FerestenVehicle accessory segment
Full Transcript
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I feel like I have a brand new Bronco. This is a tire panty. You know what's hard about those things? Well, you have to slip it on. There's that rear view camera right over the Bronco. You can't see it. You kind of slide it on there. But then there were all sorts of 1920s ladies underwear straps that you have to kind of hook into the wheel so it doesn't blow off. And then you really got to pull that thing on. It doesn't go on easily. I was using a lot of force. God damn it. This is hard. But you forgot all about the struggle once it's on. Once it got, well, of course, when I put it on, it was cockeyed, which made me absolutely nuts. So you had to go, oh shit. This looks worse than a fitted sheet. Nothing simple though. You think like when I ordered that in the fourth catalog, I thought, oh, this would be so simple. I'm going to put it on in two minutes. No, it was a good half hour of me making micro adjustments. Oh my God. So I ordered, I got some like, I got a phone mount and an iPad mount for the Rivian because we use it for filming my YouTube stuff. And I watched the video on how to install the mount. And it's like, it took three minutes. The guys just like, you just do this screwdriver. Anyways, it's easy. An hour later. Yeah, an hour. After I've got seven screwdrivers out and I'm like, I hate bombing the poor company. Yes. And you know, and there's like, oh yeah, the one thing we don't put the instructions is push it down a little bit. And like literally just click. But more. Oh yeah, that's great. Why I bring it up. Yeah, dear audience is, you know, you probably everybody feel a little strapped for money right now. But at the same time, we all crave new stuff, new vehicles. This is the way to go. Take some buy something new for your beloved car or beloved truck and install it. And maybe it'll go wrong. Spend a little half hour and you will feel great. It's only this time of year. It's like springtime. Like you feel like you have a. What's that? It's a renewed version of Passover Easter. No, but it's just pagan holiday. You know what it's really like? It's like when you when you put a new watch band on your watch, it's a feeling. You have a new watch. I've had a similar experience. Yeah. Slightly different. I just got the 66 back from Marco and that car hasn't been in the shop for a while. Yes. And we know this car is all original. It's never been a part of 56,000 miles in 60 years. And I was sort of ran great. You know, a little hesitations, little, little, little idiosyncrasies. The minute it came off the truck, I drove it to the garage. I said, brand new car. Brand new car. He fettled the carburetors. He he some of the shift linkage and the throttle linkage was a little rotty and stretchy. And it's so perfect dialed in perfectly dialed in. It's a new car. You've had that car for how long? I think 14 years. 14 years and you're still working on it and getting it right. And now it's peaking. It's peaking again right now. 14 years. Yes. No, that car is so it was always so original. I always had really funny issues with it. I remember there was a weird kind of plastic Saran wrap sound when the wind would go. Because I kept the original window seals on, which was a mistake. But it was like we started playing with it and I started pushing you to fix some of those driver quality issues. I think when you drive it today, you'll be very impressed. So we're I found the 525 in my hanger. It was Edmund down there. I'm like, oh, there's that car. I called you. I drove it and I had this magical drive in it yesterday. I put some petrol in it. Petrol is very expensive. I wonder why. And what would you pay? I paid close to $7. I paid $6.99 the other day. Yeah, yeah. But it's ready to go, Suckerman. So we'll do a switcheroo. It's a switcheroo. I brought it here for you to drive. I'm going to drive it in a half a minute. It's something weird psychological thing because I got a new, don't even ask, I have a tree strap for the Rivian. You know, if you're going to winch. What does that mean? It's a tree saver. What? No. It's if you're in a winching situation, you wrap it around a tree. So you're not putting a piece of wire around a tree. I'll, yeah, I spend all my time now watching recovery videos on YouTube. And they're like, you should have two tree straps. And I go, yeah, what if you have to go off another tree? Yes. So I got this stupid second tree strap that wraps up inside the first one. And I thought I had a brand new vehicle. Do you think this is seasonal? This is just kind of a springtime thing that we're an age, mental illness. An age related disorder. I don't think it's an age related disorder. We can take this to tree straps and slingshot tankers through the straight up remers and Johnny Lieberman. And then you had the tankers just go shooting through and then we have cheap gas again. But it is something weird. And then I got another set of traction boards. Don't ask. Don't need them. They still never use the ones I have, but these are better. So now I'm like, see now. Have you come into money? No. Oh, he's not bid better. No, I'm just, you know, these things. Trees straps aren't that expensive. No, no. Yeah, let's expensive and postmates. We're talking like, you know, less than 300 bucks for everything I've mentioned. That's good. Yeah. See, minimal investment, maximum joy. Yeah. And then you watched your truck and you're very happy before the show. You said I'm so happy with this thing. And you've had that for two years at this point. Oh, I've had that for four years. Four years. Four years in. I got it in 22 for one of the first people to get one. Yeah. Yeah. And then I got my accessories. That's what we're doing. It was like, my truck was dirty and I was kind of sad. And then I went and I, you know, how much? You know what? Say it to Lieberman. Do the, do the gold wash. Do the gold wash. 60 bucks, you know. We know what meat Lieberman looks like. This is meat eating. What is sad Lieberman looks like? It's like the happy face except the little things upside out. Why don't you just show us the tips? Oh, you want to act? Yeah, you said it was sad. You just look at her rabbi. Be sadder. Be sadder. But yeah, I got the car like really nicely washed and then I just had to go take pictures of them. Some there's a guy in my neighborhood who, you know, this is what I'm going to do tonight. My family's away. So I'm going to be by myself. I'm going to be looking for lights and sirens and PAs for the Bronco. There's a guy in my neighborhood who every once in a while will go up the street and the siren. I hear the siren and I go out the cops are here and no, it's this guy just racing up the street in his Hummer. Do you want to do that? It's probably Schwarzenegger. I kind of do want to do that. So your private security? No, it's not private security. But it comes off like that. What's that? It comes off like that. It's just whoever this is and I'm assuming it's Schwarzenegger. It's definitely Schwarzenegger. Right? Yeah. He's having fun. He's just having fun. He's racing through a neighborhood playing a siren and he's talking on a PA and yelling. Well, if it was Schwarzenegger with a PA, you would know. Spike! Where's my cleaning lady? Why were you making maids jokes to my family? There was, yeah, there was. Someone was complaining on Nextdoor back when that was happening about a van that was parked in Brentwood that said topless maid service. And I said, that's Mr. Schwarzenegger's. And that fell on deaf ears. Yeah. That was a good joke. I thought it was a decent joke. That's a very good joke. I'm sure he was fine with it. He was like this. You think that explains the sirens at night? Yeah. It's like a police escort of the topless maids. Yeah. Boy, there's a lot of stuff going on. Tiger Woods also flipped his car the other day again. Yeah. Flipped out. That guy needs five years off. There he is. Poor guy. Poor guy. He's a mess. He's sick. What's kind of remarkable about it is the same accident as before. Like that's his thing. Roll over. Look, he can drive the ball 500 yards. He can drive the car upside down. It's all, you know, consistent. Well, if he can get himself straight, because I don't, it's hard to say that he was straight from back then. He'll be so, it'll be such a better life. He'll be able to golf. He'll be happier. He won't be rolling cars by mistake. He'll be doing it for fun. That's the face of misery. That actually makes me sad. Look at that picture. Poor guy. But it's pain meds, right? I mean, he just, who nobody knows. Nobody knows. Remember with the first one, he's the only one who's going to know that. Generally speaking, the man at a certain point, it's just everything. It's just, no, you're right. It's just, you're just the garbage. No, you're right. You're right. You're right. Garbage. Yeah. Booze. Trucks. Oh, that's, that's just a sigh. That's not a full roll. No. Oh, okay. Once was driving by your house, Suckerman, in the hills in back where we lived in West Hollywood and on Doheny. And I saw just a ranger sitting like that. Nothing. No orange cones. It was just like it was like a horse in the, yeah, it was really funny. And I went, what a weird place LA is that that would just be sitting just like that. But I'm guessing someone did the same thing and just left. It was like a Sunday morning that that was their Saturday night and they just left it there. I guess he's done with Genesis. Is that another one? That's a Range Rover. That's a Range Rover. Yeah. Geez, while I was talking about Ford, I should have mentioned Jim Farley's podcast drive. He was on the show last week. He's promoting his podcast with the new season. The Pope. He had the great Pope story. Is that the Pope? That's the Pope right there. That's Gabriel Inglisius. What's notable about getting him on your show is he doesn't go anywhere. He's, I've been wanting him here forever. We had him on the inevitable. He drove up. Yeah. God damn it. I tried to get him on car matchmaker. He's not going to drive up. I tried to get him on this show. He's not going to drive up, but he came up for your show. Yeah, we had him on the inevitable back in the old podcast one studio. He's a big Volkswagen collector. Humongous. Brian Cranston is also on. Oh, that's a good get. Really? I've had him on my late night show, but I have not had him on this show. That's a good get. Yeah. Jim was telling great, great Pope stories. I've been retelling those stories. It was like, those were good stories. Those are very good stories. Very good stories, right? Yeah. I've been hanging out all week retelling the Pope stories. Yeah. Even the dumb Pope joke was good. I enjoyed that. The dumb Pope joke was good. That's a good joke. But just it's a fun moment to be driving around the Vatican. The Pope is driving you. Yeah. I will share with you after the show that he said after that show with Jim, some things that we didn't put in the show. Like the Pope was kind of complaining about his vestments getting into the car. It takes me 30 minutes to get into this stuff. That's great. And he's got to wear all these rings. It's kind of hard to have my hand on the steering wheel. He goes, well, this one is for this and this is the Ecclesiasties, whatever. This is the, because it makes driving really hard. I love having an American Pope. This is great. It is good. Yeah. It was pretty good. To listen to Drive with Jim Farley, just search for Drive with Jim Farley in your podcast app that's Drive with Jim Farley. He's a fantastic guest. He's also a terrific podcaster. That guy's legit. Runs in the family. What's that? Runs in the family. Yeah. That's right. People still trying to come to grips with he's Chris Farley's cousin, which he is. He is. He is indeed. That still surprises everybody. It's really weird. What's that? That's true. It is true. They're like, what? Really just look at them. You can see it. Yeah. You see the resemblance. Let's talk about your car since we don't have it in the studio here. We can show a picture and you can tell us what you've been driving. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This is the McLaren Artura. So yeah, this is McLaren's entry level car. So it's part of their sports series, not the super series. The big difference there used to just be the suspension. So the super series will get you the dynamic, sorry, the hydraulic dampers. Whereas the sports series would have steel springs. So this has steel springs. However, it's a twin turbo V6 hybrid. So just like the Ferrari 296, in fact, it's also 120 degree V, just like the Ferrari hot side V, just like the Ferrari with a hybrid motor between the engine and the transmission. Do you ever get annoyed by your own shadow with the phone there? Did you see it? Absolutely. Like I try to avoid that. If you go back a little bit, Cameron. Not so much. Does this annoy you? Because you were annoyed by our open door in the Zagato last year. There was a lot wrong with that photo. But look at this photo. Yeah, look at that. This doesn't bother you? This is just your head. I'm really not that bothered by it now. It looks like a tire mark. You're bothered by the open door. What was the open door, the angle, the fact that the car was in shadow? All kinds of things. Massive interest in that car by the way. That's the car, not the photo. Yeah. This thing looks like they took a Ferrari 430 or a Lamborghini Huracan and said, we're going to use those as departure points for designing this car. It looks wise. The paint is great. It's called Volcano Yellow MSO. But this is not the best looking McLaren. What is an entry level McLaren cost when they say entry level? 255 base price. Everything close to 86. Even the Hotdogs. Yeah. Yeah. So 255 base. This one was 316. Had a bunch of options. Yeah. It's, you know, it's, my conclusion is it's a great super car, but it's in a world of superlatives. So the 296 GTB, one of the best cars ever made. The GT3 RS, like the only thing that's better than the 296 is the GT3 RS. The Lamborghini Temurario costs more money, but it makes 900 horsepower. It's a hair on fire. It's an obscenity where this is like, yeah, it's a really nice car to drive around town. And it's great up in the canyons, but I'm just not dreaming about it the way I remember when the 720S came out. Could not believe. Yeah. The MP412C people turned it around and made the best hypercar in the world. Yeah. And so what I'm hearing the Artura, we're going to get, there's big Artura news coming. They fix it up. It's going to compete with the Ferrari. But yeah, it's a very nice car. If you had one, you would, you would like it quite a bit. I love McLaren's. I love McLaren's. I'm not in love with this McLaren. Hmm. Yeah. This is sort of, sort of the Porsche turbo of the McLaren. This is a very syschal and the Ebert kind of a review. Yeah. Is that good or bad? It's just good. I don't know anybody, what he meant. No, it's just the way he went, you know, it's just the way he went through it and said, I'm just not in love with this. I'm not. I'm not McLaren's, but I'm not in love with this. I love Scorsese, but I'm not in love with this. Yeah. The Irishman was a bad movie. Yeah. But yeah, it's, it's, you know, look, they, they look like, you know, again, a lot of the couldn't stand about McLaren's like they fixed the front end lift button. Yeah. It's not that cockamamie stupid lever where you never know. Now it's a button. There's a red light. I will say it does beep like crazy. And if you have the door opening your seatbelt off, you can't put the transmission in gear. A lot of weird, a lot of weird. Also a lot of like key not detected while you're holding the key in front of the key not detected, like, you know, message. Yeah. It's, it's like a lot of little niggly stuff is still there. But yeah, great driving car. Like don't get me wrong. Like, you know, you will outrun anything on the road with this thing. 600. I think it's 691 horse total system output. Sounds great. Yeah. It's cool. And like they did some smart stuff. Like it's all McLaren's have a seven speed dual clutch, right? And so for this one's eight speed because they pulled the reverse gear to fit another forward gear. And the electric motor handles reverse, which is smart. You know, who cares about reverse? And yeah, you can run around in full electric for about 12 miles, something like that. So and it starts up always in full electric. But yeah, it's, it's good. The thing is, I've never seen a car put off more heat, like the amount of heat that is generated. It's insane. We had a standard mount. We had a GoPro, you know, pointed at the exhaust melted, like literally just melted. The GoPro. And we do this every car. I'm seeing. The GoPro. Future cases here. Oh, I'm not really. I mean, it still works. It just, like, it looks like it was like, you know, like, like. A small one. I'm thinking these cars. Oh. Oh. Dude. Dude. There's there's a thing on the back of it. They call it the chimney. But like when you look in the rear view, just like. Yeah. You just need distorted air. It's wild. How hot. This thing is. Well, look at this. We have a new sponsor. And you know how I know. We have a new sponsor. Something arrives. arrived. A bucket that says Maguire's with all sorts of cleaning things. 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We're talking about Knoxville, Tennessee right now. May 3rd. Shannon Harper, who's on the show, will be representing Platica. Shannon is the owner of Harper Portia family owned business since 1981. And they put on an amazing show. As you recall, they had the Carrera GTs last time. And this year it's all about 9-11 Rs. Probably I would say my favorite 9-11 variant. I'm going to say that. I love 9-11 Rs. They're so good. I like the old ones. I like the new ones. And they're going to, of course, try to shock and amaze you with what they're putting together. And they were even downplaying it to us when they were here on the show. Yeah, we're calling some folks. We're doing this, but you know, there's going to be a big shot. Go check out Portia Platica at Portia-Platica.com. The show is May 3rd. And if you can get out there, it's totally worth it. It's in a wedding venue in a marble quarry. Yeah. And it's also near the tail of Dragon. It's a big winner. We can do it. You're not going to, he always says it, but he never travels. I travel. This would be a good one. I would go to that. Yeah, I would go to that. Yeah, Shannon came to see us. We can go see him. Up next, it's Red Flair and his new band. Oh my God, I'm back again. On the back of the casino, everybody's spin. Gonna bring new games, gonna show you now. Yeah. New game party. Find new games. Dropping hits every week. Find the new slots. I'm back, back casino tonight. 18 plus P Gambleware. That's right. Why not? There's more fun news. I don't know if you guys watch Reacher, but the new season of Reacher looks amazing. They released, they released some footage of it. And it's just spectacular. It's not the usual stuff. So first, you all know this story. I'm just kidding. This isn't the new season of Reacher, but it should be. But this is Alan Richardson. What is Reacher on him? Is it on Amazon? Amazon. Yep. I do love this show. It's a great show. I love so many dumb shows that make my wife really disappointed when she walks behind the couch. But I'm there with that dog, texting this guy, watching these shows and eating crap that are clogging my heart. Reacher's great. Reacher's a great show. It's okay. It's very entertaining. I'm very entertaining. Very watchable. Very low on breaks. But we love shows like this as guys, right? Yeah. My wife is watching the Hallmark Network in the kitchen and I'm just going, what is this shit? Right, right. She comes back in the living room. She goes, what is this shit? And we're both right. Anyway, this is the clip that was all over the place. The guy on the right is Reacher. And those are his two kids in the middle of the street. And this is his neighbor, Ronnie Taylor on the ground. Let's just watch and enjoy. I guess this is from film from inside. The bang, bang, Reacher goes, boom. Not the best punches I thought from a guy who is an action star. They were kind of underhanded. Ronnie Taylor gets back up, gets his shit. This is always the most awkward part of the fight. Like after the aftermath. There are the two boys kind of waiting for dad to finish kicking ass. And then, oops. I guess I got on the handthrow there because I'm a little shaken. Oh, now he's going to help. And now I don't know what he's doing. Then he goes back to his house. He got what he needed. Okay. So after the, oh, wait, wait, hold on. Hold on. I want to know who this neighbor is. I'm calling the police. I'm calling whoever I'm going to call. You just beat me up, Reacher. So now he's telling him, I don't like, this is, by the way, Brentwood, Tennessee. Apparently they go for a ride through the neighborhood. The kids and the dad and he doesn't like how fast they're going or they're making noise or whatever. And there they go. They go off for their ride. Okay. So that's the first clip you see. Now the world freaks out. It says typical Hollywood act. You're beating up on normal people. Blah, blah, blah, blah. I can't believe Richard would do this entitled blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Okay. Reacher just chills for a couple days. Wait, wait, go. Yeah. Let's go look at Ronnie. Oh, Ronnie. This is Ronnie. He goes to every media outlet in the world and plays the victim card. Right. Right. Now this video comes two days later. This is our Reacher's point of view. Looking around enjoying ourselves. He's going 20, 20 miles an hour. Okay. Not too fast, 19. And here he comes. Ronnie Taylor gets in front of the bike decides to act like a cop. Yeah. Here we go. So this is the classic definition of a neighborhood caring. Right. There's kids running around here. So I'm going to get in front of a moving motorcycle. 23 miles an hour. 23 miles an hour. Zuckerman. Okay. You can stop the video right here. We know what happens after that. Reacher takes him takes about with his kind of weird underhanded like the guys on the ground. How do you hit someone on the face on the ground as a personal injury lawyer? You must deal with cases like this all the time. When you look at this, let's say our friend Ronnie Taylor calls you and goes, I just got beat up by a Hollywood movie star. Do you take that case? My experience is, is that people that get beat up are rarely, rarely innocent. Now it doesn't mean that you deserve to be beat up. It doesn't mean it's lawful, but usually there are catalysts, there's instigation, there's something going on. You could, you know, when a person comes in and says, I was just standing there, minding my own business. And yes, and the reacher guy came up and punched me in the face. You go, I don't really think so. I mean, what, tell me what the backstory is. Tell me what you did. What did you do? Well, specifically, you just watched it. So what do you tell Ronnie Taylor? Ronnie that, you know, he kind of provoked the situation and it could be that arguably that it was what would be called mutual combat. There's a little bit that's not clear. Like when reacher kind of went down on the motorcycle, was that because Ronnie did it? Right. The motorcycle was down. But he does hit him. But he does stand and block. Yeah. He blocks the road. This guy's just driving down the road and this guy jumps in and right and stops him. Yeah. The blocking of the road is not, it does not merit getting punched in the face, but there's some stuff that goes on. I don't know. I know legally. Legally. Morally. Yes. Legally. Right. Right. No, but I don't, you know, Ronnie doesn't have a case. No, nobody's going to look at this video and say, geez, that Ronnie guy, we feel so bad for him. We need to compensate him. Yeah. Probably even a damning part of right now, you can see 17 miles an hour. Yeah. You know, or it was at 22, whatever it is. You're not moving. I always liked the guy and I think we all have these instincts like, I'm going to handle this myself. I see someone speeding in the neighborhood. I see someone running this. I'm going to go handle, it's a bad. I've never had that thought. Really? Not once? No. Because of like situations like this. No. Everyone is gone. This morning, a guy ran and stopped, signed right in front of me and I went, I'm not going to be a Ronnie Taylor. This guy just ran at 70, almost clipped the 525 and he went, I'm just not going to Ronnie Taylor it. I'm going to let life stop this guy. Ronnie's got aggressive posture there. Look what he's, you know, just look at his big, you know, dad chest aggressive posture. I'm going to, I'm going to put a beating on the richer guy. Sure. But also, how much of this, I haven't followed this at all. I saw the initial thing and I was like, oh, steroids are a hell of a drug. And then I heard that it was justified. But like, you know, Allen is a pretty outspoken, let's say anti-Trump force in the world. And Ronnie is a Trump supporter. I'm going to guess Ronnie is not a guess. And on his, on his live streams or whatever to TMZ, his zooms, there was a MAGA HET behind him. So how much? But he's also a McQueen fan. Yeah. What? Weird Venn diagrams. Yeah. And look in the back, he's got Mandela. No, that's, that's Allen has Mandela. I don't think so. I think Ronnie has Mandela. The best one ever. Ronnie has a tattoo. Because Ronnie's, Ronnie, that's the weirdest, that's the weirdest Venn diagrams ever. McQueen and Trump. Like the Holy Trinity. Like I can understand Trump and McQueen, but not Mandela. No, no, no. Go just go to video. Like deep, like, like he was quite away. And I said, can you just slow it down a bit? It sounds British. British. And then there's the MAGA HET. You can see it. We got to try to find this Mandela. Yeah. There's the MAGA HET. Sunday when I was cleaning my bike. Why does a British guy have a MAGA HET? I don't know. You go past once, twice, and on the second time, I walked out in front of him. I don't... You've got to stop. Someone's going to get hurt. And it escalated quite quickly. I did push him because I was coming towards me on his bike. He did it again for a second time. I pushed him a second time. Towards you. So he did push you. Yeah, he pushed him. I kicked the crap out of him. And you can see I, he hit me in the back. He pushed him to the ground. I covered myself. I've had such a shitty day today. But see, he's got a blue hat on top of a red hat. So... We just don't need people riding through neighborhoods like this. And I just decided, you know, I'm taking a stand because someone else... I don't wish him Madness or Ill Will. I just pushed him off a bike. Well, you're a liar. Wow. Wow. You're a liar. Wow. He was, I like how he says, he was coming towards me because you consciously walked in front of him. To stop him. In front of him. Jesus Christ. You are a gaslighter, Ronnie. What? And also like... This is his fancy accent to make it sound so credible. And also like, I mean, this, Alan Richardson, 6'3", he's about 270 of like literally muscle. Just muscle. There's nothing else there. Just setting up a lawsuit. What's he doing, Paul? Ronnie's just stupid. Okay. Okay. He's just an idiot. It's just all you can say. Well, that's Brentwood, Tennessee. Awesome. But you said, I mean, like who puts the MAGA hat in the background? Like, you know what I mean? I, but look, see the blue hat? He might be doing like... I'm everything. I'm everything. This is America. It might be a joke. No, it's not a joke. Okay. So it's a joke when Larry David does it, which was a really good joke. Well, Ronnie's not thinking straight. He's not funny. We know that. That might be Ronnie's idea of a joke, but let's bring him on the show. Let's have him in the green room. He's in the green room. Let's put him in the green room. There you go. He can do it with Radamac. Him and Radamac. Yeah. Yeah. You know, work on their style. Enforce traffic laws. Who's speaking of laws? Jay Leno's classic car emission exemption bill is back. Yes. It's back. Here's why the California, here's why California might pass at this time. Apparently, so as you know, Jay wanted to eliminate smog tests for classic cars. That's what this is all about. And the first time, the first go around, I guess there were issues with the bill. There were all sorts of stories that the Democrats were met at the Republicans and it's a Republican bill. None of that really turns out to be true. It just was a little imperfect and there were some genuine kind of criticisms of it. This second time around, it now looks like it may actually go through with some changes. And here they are. One, this car cannot be used as the owner's primary mode of transportation. That has to be in the bill. I don't know how the hell you'd ever know that. Oh, whatever. And the primary use must be shows, parades, charitable functions, historical exhibitions, maintenance and preservation. Oh, that covers a lot because every time I drive it's a historical exhibition. Yes. And it's for maintenance and preservation because if you don't drive them, they get sick. Well, I'm going to a parade to take the 525, whatever the fuck that is. It's all my primary driving is parades. All I do is shows. I'm looking for a parade. I think I go to car shows professionally at this point in my life. And then we're going to a fundraiser with it tonight in Parfraig. Again, put whatever you want in it. This is a great bill. It needs to pass. We thank Jay Leno for doing it. And if you want to say our, yeah, I'm using all my cars for parades. I line up my family. My family lines up in the driveway with little flags. We're going to do a parade. That's really funny. Is there any definition? Do they put a definition of parade or? Hey, you. Hey, you get out there with a flag while I drive by. Describe these flags. Yes. In that way, Richard. That's what I'm driving. Richard was having a motorcycle parade in Brexley, Tennessee. It's a parade. That's right. Ronnie Taylor was coming out with his arms waving for his parade. He was in the street. It's a lovely parade. We wish, we wish Mr. Leno luck with that. And Ronnie, please call us. We want Ronnie. Here's one that you guys are never going to be able to guess. Which car held its value more than any other car in the last five years? Which car? Which model? Which car? The 911. Johnny. Last five years. Held its value. Ferrari 812 Superfest. That's a really weird answer. Why? They've gone up. Because it's wrong. They're both wrong, but one is rider than the other one. The 911 is rider. It is. But it's actually the Porsche 718 Cayman. Shut up. Held its value more than any other car in the last five years. A recent study by IC cars, which I doubt they exist. We've quoted them before. But sure, found that no type of automobile has depreciated less than the sports car over the last five years. And of those vehicles from the class, nonefair better than the 718 Cayman. Does our 718 Spyder RS fall into that category? I don't believe it, Spike. I mean, again, what about the ST? I mean, it didn't go down. No, that's what I'm saying. I appreciate it. A Ferrari 812 GTS sold for 740,000 two days ago. The Porsche 911 was second. Chevrolet C8 Corvette also retained their value over the same period. But yeah, do they not, Johnny? I don't like to study. I want to study. I got to see the study. I'm going to see the study. And Tennessee is on this study. So do you have Cameron scroll down? I want to see what was included. The study found that seven of the 25 vehicles that saw their values fall the least were sports cars. I think what they're saying is if cars were depreciating, not appreciating, that's the category of car, depreciating cars that of those cars were the least. You're assuming that. Well, you know what I mean? But a car that appreciates technically has, that's like the best non depreciation. Yeah, right. That's what I twice said, the Ferrari 812. It's a V12 Ferrari that's just going up and up in value. I don't like this report. And also only 25 cars. They looked at it. Look at that. No, look at that car. Look at that special car. We tried to get one of these, didn't we, Zuckerman? Yes. That very Porsche GT3 touring. Are we out? We're not going to get it. Wow. You don't want it. We're out of the game. We wanted it. They're only 90 made for the world. We wanted it. We wanted it. We do have another touring coming in, so it would have been a little gross to have. Which is, what's that? Oh, so they're saying they fell. I don't know what this is. I don't see that Porsche. So instead of iccars.com, you, I see bullshit. I see. Yes, exactly. This is like, I think they have AI like making up like, you know, top 10 lists now. Oh, that's definitely true. Yeah. I'll get to that in a second. Okay. First, let's talk about our friends at Racetech. Racetech, our longest running sponsor on Spikes Car Radio. We love them. And we love them, you know why? Because not only do they fit the broadcast, they make a good product that they love. Yesterday, I was in my hangar making love to my Racetech. This discovery. 525s. I was picking up the 525, which I hadn't seen in many, many months. Is that IBMW? Because I forgot I had a hanger. But when I got there, I noticed the Racetech right away and I took the covers up. I now cover cars in the hangar, Zuckerman. Wow. It works. It's good. Because it's a little bit of this ambient dust. So I've been at Santa Monica Airport 22 years, I think. And in the last 12 months, I decided to dust cover the cars. And when you take them off, they're perfect. Because we have a lot of jet wash there, a lot of planes. And now we've got JSX flying people to Vegas back and forth. And it just came out perfect. I put my hand on the Racetech. I line up, you know, when I back the cars in, see the way that rear tire is right against the light blue. Yeah. I look out and it's a very easy way for me to judge whether my car is straight in the hangar. On that line, I look, I open that door and I look at the front and I look at the back. And it's perfect because the Racetech is perfect in there. I can't say enough about this stuff. It's springtime. Maybe this is the change you need to make. You call up Racetech, you make your garage look nice. They ship very quickly. They manufacture 24-7. Most orders come in in two days. They have tons of choices. They don't chip, peel and stain. And the product was invented by a Porsche guy. So what else do you need to know right there? Shop at racetech.com. Use codes by 356 for an exclusive 15% off and free shipping. Today, she was also sponsored by Luxury Aircraft. And here's what it says. The Luxury Aircraft said, say whatever you want about us, guys. Yeah, really? Who was it because Joe? Joe McHale. Joe McHale read the ad last time. That greatest ad of all time. That was crazy. But they are a private jet charter, but not the cheesy jet card nonsense. Do you see they called the jet card cheesy? Cheesy. Which I like. And they also said, would you please wear the hat, the Luxury Airlines aircraft hat? And I said, no, I won't wear that. Do I get a ride in one if I wear the hat? Because I'll put that shit on right now. What do you think? Let's do it. Let's try it. Let's experiment. Let's do it. Okay. You just want to wear it? No. You just want to ride? You want a free ride in a jet? Can we drag you behind? No. It made me laugh because, you know, every time a company makes their own hat, they think everybody wants their hat, including me. Like, I think I'm wearing this bike. Does this say SCR in the front of it? Yeah, it does. Yeah, I'm wearing my own hat. And when I saw this this morning, I'm like, oh, this is a good hat. People would want to wear this, but they don't. I only want to wear it. Right. Luxury aircraft, actually, you look pretty good. See? Yeah. Let's see a shot of that on the monitor. You're right. Oh, here you go. Oh, yeah. Anyway, take me to your- Luxury aircraft is a private jet card company built for people who care about efficiency control and how things actually work. Check them out. They have a CTA here. Oh, wait. Look at this. Use code SPIKE911 when booking a trip with them. Tell them you heard about them from Spikes Car Radio and get $250 off your first flight. If you are all in and signing up for a membership, use code SPIKE911 when signing up, and they will waive the sign up fee. Plus, you will receive three free months of passport membership, but they should, you know what they should do. They should fly us up to Pebble. Yeah. Oh. We're doing Pebble. Are they listening? We want a flight to Pebble. They'll do it. Okay. Why wouldn't they do it? We always hire a jet, right? Well, I'm- I bet that doesn't do that. Take me to Vegas. Just fly me to Vegas and back for that. We'll do that, too. All right. All right. We're going to do everything. What's that? Why do you want to go there? I love Vegas. It's disgusting. Okay. It's disgusting. I'm also headed to Long Beach Grand Prix. I'm going to be there for three days, and I'm headed to Indy this year as well. Oh, yeah. I'll tell you more about that soon. You're going to be at Long Beach Grand Prix? I might be, but I'm definitely- I'm air-water now. I'm definitely going to air-water. Oh, yeah. That's coming up, right? That's April 25th. Where's that? It's Orange County. And Prune- Andraeus Pruniger is going to come on the show either right before or right after and tell us about why we didn't get one of these GT3 Durance and how great it is. And I'm hanging with him the day before we're going on a GT3 drive. It's fantastic. It's all coming together. It's all coming together. Let me see. So much other stuff to talk about here. The Russell Crowe's a watch guy. It's one of my favorite stories. Did you see any of this stuff with Russell Crowe just in one? Just put up a second of it. Duckerman, have you seen this? No. This instantly made Russell Crowe beloved to our community. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He just jumps on one day. He's got an old timey kind of desk area there, which I love. Look at the stack of books in the back. The Oscar. An Oscar. GQ. He's just crap. He knows it's just crap. And he goes, you know what? I'll go tell you about my watch collection. And he just starts talking about weird ass watches. Look at this. Hello there. I had a little bit of fun doing this a little while ago. And I thought I would do it again. However, no, you do not have permission to review these watches. However, you will see this episode is for you. He's a limited-sector. Let's talk about the Italian market branch called Giuliano Mazzuoli. Oh, it's so good. Giuliano Mazzuoli was a rally car driver. When he retired from being a rally car driver, Yeah, all right. he became a designer. And one of the things he approached as a designer was watches. Now, this is the pressure gauge, a Mano Metro. So Giuliano's first watch was called the Mano Metro. This one is a blue face. Yes, I do have a fair amount of blue faces. OK, stop it for a second. Me too. I love blue face watches. This guy knows how to communicate. Obviously, he talk. He talk. What a great voice he has. No, he just knows. Portion well. If you talk like this, people will lean in and listen. That's ASMR watches. But I found this could be one of the greatest videos on the internet in the last year or so. Because he doesn't give a shit about the framing. His top of his head isn't even in there. He's full beard framed. He knows his shit about watches. He has a little story with every watch. Everything about it is fantastic. It's its own show. I think it needs to be a show. Like when I look at some of the watch companies and watch websites and their content and then I look at this. Oh, yeah. But you also see what the watch influencers are up to, whether it's like, no other brands matters. Get rid of your Breitling. Rolex only. Only get a Rolex. Start with the Submariner. It's so boring. He has this really obscure brand, and I forget the name of it, that made a tennis watch that I just happened to be looking at. And like this micro brand made a hundred of them. And I'm like, I'm never going to find him. He's got one of them. He suddenly, he pulls it up. Play a little more. I just wasn't the one that I originally bought. But I remember when I went to do this that I gave that away. I gave it to a friend of mine. And by the way, stop for a second. Those are the Amazon reading glasses. I buy those. Those are Amazon reading glasses for $4. What is that smock he's wearing? That's a hoodie. The ander on it. It's all great. He's got a Pope smock on. If we could convince him to zoom in. We don't do zooms normally. Right. We did it for Jim Farley. Not Chris. That would be us. That would be a great zoom. But we did it for Jim because he only had a little bit of time. But I would do it with Russell Crowe. He's just so good. And he could just do this. Just come on for 10 minutes and tell us about one of your watches. But again, I only bring it up not to criticize, to applaud. More of this. And I know the other thing I just bypassed casually was it is Russell Crowe reading. So we just whatever makes him a star is on display here. Yeah. What a voice. So it's kind of hard to compare him to the other watches. Pyrotracheal. And what he did was gallo wine. No wine before it's tough. No, no. What was it? Horse and Whammy. No, but it was a brand, Mason. Paul Mason. Paul Mason. Paul Mason. So we've suspected for quite some time that money laundering has moved into the car space. And now I think it's moving into the watch space here. I think it started the watch space. 2.2 million pounds worth of watches and jewelry have already been stolen in just first 10 weeks of 2026 compared to only 516,000 pounds across the whole of 2025. A sharp and worrying escalation in high value watch crime. Now a Kent based luxury watch trader, this must be him getting arrested, has been sentenced to 15 years in prison after using his business as a front for large-scale drug dealing and money laundering. Bertie Payne. Actually, look, look. Go to the second one. We'll let the guys put their headphones on and listen to this. Dirty cash, I want you dirty cash, I need you in my home. There you go. He's literally singing about the money laundering. Dirty cash, I want you. Police arrested him while attempting to hand over 50,000 pounds in cash, later uncovering a wider network of worth, worth over 800,000 pounds. His watch business, which held stock, valued at a lot of money, was used to legitimize criminal proceeds through fake invoicing and financial cover. I love it. I love his name. Bertie Payne. Bertie Payne. Authorities have since seized all watches linked to the case under the proceeds of crime laws. A stark reminder of how rapidly the luxury watch space is being targeted, not just by theft, but by organized crime operating behind legitimate looking businesses. And again, they're going after the usual suspects watch-wise, right? Yeah. So like, just get interesting watches. Yeah. There's so much out there. Yes. For sure, but. Look at Bertie's terrible operation there. The shitty floor, the shitty chair, his desk, his hungover, Bertie. Oh, Bertie. Oh, Bertie. He's hungover. He is, he is hungover, but. He could still be drunk. But, but, but when I see these record prices again for some of these cars, my mind goes here. You know, this guy, you know, that kind of caught him red-handed. I, you know, it feels like something, you know, maybe we need to do a Spikes Car Radio investigation. Go in deep. And bed someone with one of these option houses. So you're saying you want me to go buy. Yes. So, okay. Yes. Yes. And find out. Right. Well, you did sell a car. You sold that Carrera GT and you set a record. Yeah. And that was quickly beaten. But it lasted for seven days. Seven days. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So. But do you have no insight? Oh, I have nothing. Just the money. No, I didn't know that. I, yeah. Nothing. I got nothing. Just the money. Yeah. No, I'm actually waiting on the money. You're going to wait for a long time for that money, Johnny. I'm well aware. I'm well aware. We're waiting all my life. Oh yeah. And also in the news, of course, our friends at Waymo. This is for Zuckerman to look at. Here's a nice story in San Francisco. Passengers of a taxi experienced an unexpected hazard being stuck in a vehicle that was assaulted by an anti-robot protester. This story was in the New York Topics. Radimax. Doug Fulop. Fulop. Fulop. Fupa. I am one letter away from Fulop. Doug Fupa. The lesser of two evils is Fulop. We each have Fulop versus the Asian restaurant robot. Those two can duke it out. But Fulop was riding home from a night out in San Francisco when a man crossed the street in front of his car, doubled back and began screaming at him. The man punched the car's windows, tried lifting the vehicle. Well, what was he on? He then yelled that he wanted to kill Mr. Fulop and the other two passengers for giving money to a robot. Right. Giving money to a robot. A taxi driver would have simply driven away, but Mr. Fulop's vehicle had no driver. It was a self-driving Waymo. It just stopped. That's a good point. Mr. Fulop37 said we felt helpless. He also works in the tech industry, Mr. Fulop. Fupa. I work for Fulop, which is a competitor to Waymo. Society is going to continue devolving to where you have to just have a shotgun on you at all times. There's no other way out. Well, here's the most interesting part of the story. I know we're a little tired of the Trashing Waymo. And I like Waymo. I love Waymo. And they just released stats that they're way safer than human drivers. And I believe them. That study also done by IC Cars. You can just say it. Nothing's real anymore. Nothing's really factual. You write it, it's reality. That's the way the internet works. But here's the funniest part of the story. The New York Times has to be using AI reporting and writing. Because, and you guys were on it right away, this is the last line in the story, last paragraph. The attacker did not appear to be on drugs or otherwise impaired. But seemed to be overtaken by extreme anger at the self-driving car. Nobody said that. That this was in the New York Times. I know, but Fulop didn't say it like that. I mean, lots of sober people trying to lift cars. Yeah. Oh wait, this is a tribute to Mr. Fulop. But he didn't say that. Why would he say that? Fulop. It did not seem safe to get out and run, he added, since the man was trying to open the doors and he said he wanted to kill the passengers. Yeah, that's the thing. But he's not on drugs. Yeah, yeah. Cool, Reacher. He's not on drugs. Reacher will come and solve this. That's what Waymo needs, Dr. Min. Reacher. Well, that new, Reacher Mode. That new movie, War Machine with Alan Richmond, whatever his name is, he's fighting robots. Really? It's so good. If you think Reacher is stupid but entertaining, man, War Machine. Oh, what about Marshall? Haven't seen it. One of the dumbest shows ever made by Taylor Sheridan. Oh, Taylor Sheridan. It's a high level of stupidity and fantastic at all at the same time. I mean, Taylor Sheridan is, yeah. But this one you really want, he said, all right, you know, you know that kid, that intern that wants to be a writer, let him write that series. Right. So they have a clubhouse with all the Marshalls in it, including a mom. You know, it's got kids and stuff. And they're always there shooting pool and cleaning up and playing guns. And you kids stop messing around with the guns in the club, Marshall Clubhouse. This is like US Marshalls. US Marshalls in the middle of Montana. And then all of a sudden, the alarm goes off and we've got some white supremacists trying to move fentanyl. Wait up there in the mountain. Yeah, there's a wind. We can't take the helicopter. We're going to have to take horses. Like what the fuck? Really? That's a long ride. And he goes, don't worry, we were Navy SEALs together. Let me tell you about that, right? We're going to be able to do it. You're not getting me on that horse, says the city slicker girl. He goes, well, if you're going to be a Marshall, you're going to have to do it. And I'm like this, eating my popcorn. It's such shit, but I love it. This is so bad, but it's good. That one actually got so bad I had to bail, but only for 48 hours. And then yesterday I came back to it and I was like, this is good again. Is this Paramount Plus? I don't know. Is it the same? Is the clubhouse the same clubhouse the biker's used in Tulsa? Yeah, it is. It is. I knew my dude. The formulas are always the same, Zuckerman. The formulas are the same. There's a lot of earnestness. There's a lot of landscape shots. There's a lot of bar scenes with hot girls that definitely aren't in Montana. Right. So with a lot of crush, everybody has crushes on each other. The girls all hold their own, you know, somehow in the pool table, the guys, whatever they can hold their own. There are a lot of boob jobs. And then there's also like a clubhouse where our cast is and they all live together. So like the bunk house, whatever that was, you know, we all, we all show it is all in the first episode of every one of these series, they talk about the showering in a bathroom situation. This is a cold shower. And we're like, yeah. Oh, we're like, good, good. Starship trooper. Starship trooper. Just remember, don't worry about it, but every series is that. So in the first episode of Marshall's, there's a co-ed showering situation. They say, they say that no woman who's reasonable is going to be put put themselves in that situation. No, this is all especially no one that can kick out. Do you think you think this is happening at Bosque Ranch? What's that? That's where Tyler Taylor Sheridan lives and he films everything. That's the one in Dallas. This is all fantasy for men. This is dumbed the catnip for guys. But I don't want to show it. I only want to, I want to shower in the lady shower. I don't want to shower the co-ed shower. Let's make that clear. Say less. What is the Tulsa one? What is the Tulsa one? They have the bar. Tulsa King. Tulsa King. There's no showering. No, they do. They were in first season, they were hanging out in the weed shop a lot. There was no co-ed shower. There's no co-ed. But Tulsa King, what I admire is the mass murder, the amount of mass murder. And no one. With no consequences. No consequences. He's literally an informant for the FBI this season. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Murdering, murdering. In Yellowstone they had that trash bin they threw the bodies in. It was a canyon that nobody knows. You just throw it in. You'll never find a body. Don't worry about it. Right. Just dump it there. Tulsa bag. And it's gone. They brought it back for Marshall. Like what do we do with this? We dump it in the canyon and they go to the Marshalls guy who's part of that family. He goes, do you know this canyon that's a legend that they put bodies? He's like, no. I don't know. I don't know anything about it. Why are you so nervous when we're near the canyon? Because it's like $10 in body right there that you just threw off the curb in bags for some reason. Right. I'm going to have to watch this. It sounds great. It's a great show. Anyway, that's our show today. We could do a drive if you want. We can drive to 525 or not. But let's stick around. Let's talk. Let's do a cool down lap and we'll tell you everything we were chatting about. Cool down. Cool down lap. And again, if you're a Patreon sponsor, thank you for sponsoring the show. We love you and we'll see you there in a minute. For those of you who aren't on Patreon, see us next week. Security program on spreadsheets. New regulations piling up. An audit dread. It's time for Vantor. 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