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Why do electric cars sound so unique?

28 min
Oct 28, 20256 months ago
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Summary

This episode explores why electric cars are uniquely quiet compared to gas-powered vehicles and how sound designers create distinctive audio signatures for EVs to alert pedestrians. Jay Kapadia, lead sound design engineer at General Motors, explains the process of designing EV sounds using synthesizers, natural instruments, and storytelling techniques to give electric vehicles their own sonic personalities.

Insights
  • Electric vehicles require engineered alert sounds due to safety regulations (US/EU 2019 laws) mandating external speakers on all new EVs and hybrids to compensate for lack of engine noise
  • EV sound design is a creative discipline combining music composition, engineering, and psychology—designers consider vehicle character (sporty, calm, friendly) and translate it into audio using synthesizers and natural instruments
  • The absence of engine sound in EVs can cause motion sickness in passengers because sensory cues don't align with vehicle speed, requiring designers to create artificial engine-like sounds for interior cabins
  • Sound design for EVs represents a shift from copying traditional combustion engine sounds to inventing entirely new sonic worlds, with potential future applications including nature sounds and video game audio
  • Regulatory compliance for EV sounds requires balancing safety (audible enough for pedestrians), design coherence (matching vehicle aesthetics), and user experience (not annoying or scary)
Trends
Regulatory mandates driving innovation in automotive sound design as EV adoption accelerates globallySound design emerging as a key brand differentiation tool for automakers in the EV marketInterdisciplinary approach to vehicle engineering incorporating music composition and audio psychologyShift from replicating internal combustion engine acoustics to creating original sonic identities for electric vehiclesGrowing importance of pedestrian safety features in urban mobility as vehicle noise decreasesUse of cultural and natural sound elements (e.g., didgeridoo) in commercial product designIntegration of storytelling and character development into industrial product designPotential future expansion of EV sound design to include customizable audio experiences for drivers
Topics
Electric vehicle sound design and engineeringInternal combustion engine mechanics and noise generationEV battery technology and electric motor operationPedestrian safety regulations for quiet vehiclesAudio synthesis and sound design techniquesVehicle brand identity through sonic designMotion sickness prevention in electric vehiclesRegulatory compliance in automotive design (US/EU 2019 EV sound laws)Natural instrument integration in product designFuture of automotive audio customization
Companies
General Motors
Jay Kapadia is the lead sound design engineer and specialist for GM, designing EV alert sounds and interior audio exp...
People
Jay Kapadia
Discusses EV sound design process, character-driven audio creation, and future of automotive sonic innovation
Quotes
"Designing EV sounds for me is like being a DJ, a composer and a wizard all at once."
Jay KapadiaMid-episode interview
"We are not just copying old engine sounds. We are inventing brand new sonic worlds."
Jay KapadiaInterview conclusion
"If you can't hear sound that matches the speed you are moving, it will make you feel car sick because your senses aren't aligned."
Jay KapadiaInterior sound design explanation
"I'd love to make a car that sounds like a friendly robot dinosaur. Imagine a low rumble mixed with chirps and a soft roar."
Jay KapadiaFavorite sound design discussion
Full Transcript
Today's episode is sponsored by Bombas. It's the time of the year we think about, hmm, what am I going to do differently this year? Maybe I'm going to read more. Maybe I'm going to work out more. Maybe I'm going to learn a new skill, but really at the top of my list is number one to get comfy. And that's where Bombas comes in. They're bringing serious comfort to all my everyday go-tos. The all-new Bombas Sport Socks are engineered with sport-specific comfort for running, golf, hiking, skiing, snowboarding, and all sport. This year I'm going to walk my dog more, longer walks, better walks, and these socks are going to help me stay comfy while I do it. And for all my other resolutions like going to the bookstore and picking out more books to read, I'm going to wear my new squishy Saturday suede slip-on shoes, which are super comfortable for being on the go. Head over to bombas.com slash family26 and use code family26 for 20% off your first purchase. That's b-o-m-b-a-s dot com slash family26 code family26 at checkout. Hi friends. You might have heard that Bark, Sandin, and I are on the road this spring with Brains on Live. We've been to several cities so far and it has been so much fun. Our next two stops are Atlanta and Fort Lauderdale. That's at the end of March. And then we just announced that we added Lawrence, Kansas in May and Columbus, Ohio in June. We're also heading to Chattanooga, Durham, Milwaukee, Portland, Buffalo, and Ann Arbor, Michigan. I hope you'll be able to join us at one of those shows. We can't wait to see you to get tickets and get more information. You can head to BrainsOn.org slash events. That's BrainsOn.org slash events. You're listening to Brains On while we're serious about being curious. Hi there, Brains On friends. Today's episode started when a listener noticed something odd. Maybe you've noticed it too. Some cars on the road aren't rumbling or rooming. They're humming, almost like they're making music. These are electric cars or EVs. And we're going to meet someone who gives them their signature sounds. Designing EV sounds for me is like being a DJ, you know, a composer and a wizard all at once. Plus, an electric car game show where our co-host Asher solves puzzles with the power of sound. So buckle up. Oh, hey Molly. What's better than a bowl of noodles and cottage cheese? Excuse me, that's my favorite snack. There's nothing better. Yeah, but what about listening to podcasts without the ads? Oh, you're talking about our SmartyPass where people can listen to uninterrupted episodes of Brains On and all the shows in Brains On Universe. Yeah, way better than noodles and cottage cheese, am I right? Well, I think they're both kind of tied for the best thing ever. Fair point. Why don't you tell people where they can get it? Sure. Any local grocery store should have lots of noodle choices. No, the SmartyPass. Oh, that's even easier. Head to SmartyPass.org to sign up. That's SmartyPass.org to get ad-free episodes, discounts on merch and live shows, and hangouts with the Brains On Universe crew. You know, all this talk about SmartyPass has made me a little hungry. I'm going to go get a snack. You're listening to Brains On, brought to you by the Brains On Universe. I'm your host Molly Bloom, and I'm joined by Asher from Johnson Creek, Wisconsin. Hey there, Asher. Hi, Molly. Today we're taking a look, or should I say, listen to electric cars. And we're going to answer this question from Emmett in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. My name is Emmett, and my question is why are electric cars so quiet? Asher, have you noticed that electric cars are quiet? Yeah, it's just like a quiet hum when they go by. Yeah, some of the electric cars have interesting backup noises. Have you noticed that? Yeah. So there's this one guy with an electric car across the street, and I noticed the electric car sound gets way louder when he puts it in reverse. Yeah, I think they're like, we don't want to run you over, so we're going to get louder. Be careful. Yeah. What sounds do you associate with cars on the street? For regular cars, I just think it's loud and kind of sounds like clanging in it. Do you have a favorite car? So there's this, I just read about it, it's this flying car. Oh. But it's like with no wings or propellers that fans are contained within the car. Is it real? Yeah, it's electric. Some in aeronautics company made it. Whoa, that is very cool. Do you think you'd like to try a flying car? Yes, I think it would be so fun to drive a flying car. Brains on! So back to today's question. Why are electric cars so quiet? To answer it, we auto check out some vehicles in action. Let's head down to the Brains On Body Shop. The Brains On Body Shop? Yeah, body shops are garages where people repair cars and trucks. Follow me. Whoa, it's noisy in here today. You calling me noisy Molly? Well, if it isn't Iggy the delivery van. Iggy, this is Asher. Pleased to meet you, Asher. Whatcha doing on the pod today? Talking trucks? Yeah, we're exploring why electric cars are so quiet. And why gas powered cars like you make such a racket. Racket? No way. We make music, baby. Rumbly and rumbly. I like it. Like a lot of gas powered cars and trucks on the road today, Iggy the delivery van has something called an internal combustion engine. Or an engine powered by explosions. My mother always told me, Iggy, you've got explosive energy. Yes, but don't worry, the explosions in vehicles like Iggy are very small and controlled. Yeah, let me tell you how I work. So first, you fill up my tank at the gas station, then you turn me on and that gasoline gets piped from the tank to my engine. Inside the engine are these strong metal cylinders. They look like super tough big cans of soda. That's where the explosions happen. The cylinders fill with gas and air. Then there's a tiny spark inside the cylinder and kablooey. A small explosion happens. That explosion pushes down on something called the piston. The piston is inside of the cylinder and it's shaped like a thick hockey puck. With each mini explosion, the puck shaped piston gets pushed up and down and turns a metal arm around and round. Which makes the car wheels turn. Watch me roll. Wait, wait, wait, not yet Iggy, the garage door is closed. Oops, sorry. Don't worry about it. So, the explosions inside internal combustion engines keep trucks like Iggy moving. But these cans of engines are noisy. Hey, being noisy ain't the worst thing in the world. True, the noise lets people know you're coming down the road. But electric cars, they're known for being very quiet. Yes, we are. Where did that other car come from? Call me Elektra. Elektra sparks. You snuck up on us Elektra. That's cause I'm electric baby. Instead of those noisy gas burning engines, electric cars use batteries to make our wheels spin. How does it work? Well, when you plug in an electric car like me, electricity flows into my batteries. That energy is stored in the electric car's battery until you need it, like charging a cell phone or a laptop computer. Then, when someone presses their foot down on your pedal to make you go, energy zooms out of the battery to your motor. And that makes my wheels spin. But unlike noisy combustion engines like Iggy's, my motor is super quiet. That's because it runs on electricity, not explosions. But humans are used to being able to hear vehicles on the road. This does help people who are walking, visually impaired, or on bikes notice when a vehicle is nearby. And it can be dangerous if cars are silent, cause you can't hear them coming. Yeah, Elektra is a sneaky EV. So I've got a lot of shush in my whoosh. These days, electric cars usually play special sounds when they drive. Didn't your designers give you sounds, Elektra? Oh, that's why I'm at the Brains On Body Shop today. I need my signature sounds installed. Then I'll be ready for the road. That makes sense. In 2019, the US and Europe passed laws that require automakers to put speakers on the outside of all new electric and hybrid vehicles. These speakers play different sounds to help alert people that cars are nearby. I bet you're going to sound so cool, Elektra. Aw, thanks. Listeners, if you want to learn more about the history of electric cars, our sister podcast, Forever Go, has an episode all about it. It's called It's Electric, the History of Electric Cars. You can listen wherever you listen to Brains On. Hey, wait a second Molly, do you hear that? Uh... It sounds like it's time for the... Mystery Sound. Are you ready to guess a mystery sound, Asher? Yeah. Alright. Here it is. What do you think? Maybe like someone sledding down a hill because it sounded kind of like snow compressing. Like kind of like crunching. I like that idea. Let's hear it one more time. Okay, what do you think now? Same thoughts, different thoughts? Yeah, I think I'm going to stick with that because I can't really think of anything else it could be. Yeah, I have no idea either, so I'm going to guess like a straw slurping up the remnants of a milkshake. Probably because I'm very hungry right now. That's what it sounded like to me. Okay, we're going to play it again at the end of this episode. Get another chance to guess and hear the answer. So keep listening. Hey friends, we've got an episode coming up all about skunks. They're cute, they're cuddly, and they can stink. But the stink is a defense mechanism. That means it's a way for skunks to scare away animals that might hurt them, which is a pretty unique way to scare off your enemies. If you could design a unique way to scare off animal enemies, what would it be? Would you blow a bubble big enough to shield you, or summon the stench of gym socks, or let off a high-pitched shriek that summons neighborhood dogs? Share your idea for a wild animal defense mechanism by going to brainson.org. While you're there, you can also send us your drawings and questions. And keep listening. Today's episode is sponsored by Bombus. It's the time of the year we think about, hmm, what am I going to do differently this year? Maybe I'm going to read more. Maybe I'm going to work out more. Maybe I'm going to learn a new skill, but really at the top of my list is number one, to get comfy. And that's where Bombus comes in. They're bringing serious comfort to all my everyday go-tos. The all-new Bombus Sport Socks are engineered with sport-specific comfort for running, golf, hiking, skiing, snowboarding, and all sport. This year, I'm going to walk my dog more, longer walks, better walks, and these socks are going to help me stay comfy while I do it. And for all my other resolutions, like going to the bookstore and picking out more books to read, I'm going to wear my new squishy Saturday suede slip-on shoes, which are super comfortable for being on the go. Head over to bombus.com slash family26 and use code family26 for 20% off your first purchase. That's B-O-M-B-A-S dot com slash family26 code family26 at checkout. Buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh, brain's on. You're listening to Brain's On. I'm Asher. And I'm Molly. Today, we're exploring why electric cars are so quiet. We learned that most cars on the road these days are powered by gas. These cars have internal combustion engines, which use lots of tiny explosions to power them. They can also be noisy. Electric cars use energy stored in big batteries to help them move. Because they don't have internal combustion engines, electric cars are much quieter. To keep people on the road safe, car designers have to create sounds for electric cars to play while driving. That way, people know to look for them when crossing the street or walking past the driveway, for example. And a lot of the sounds electric vehicles make are pretty cool, like this. And this. So we wanted to know who's designing these awesome sounds and how do they decide which sounds to use? Jay Kapadia is here with the answers. He's the lead engineer and sound design specialist for General Motors. Hi Jay. Hello Jay. Hi Molly, hi Asher. I'm so happy to be with you guys today. So Jay, how did you get into designing sounds for cars? I've always loved sound. So as a kid, I played instruments and recorded weird noises on my cassette player. Later, I studied music and sound design and I realized cars were becoming more like computers on the wheels. So I thought, wait, cars need a voice too. So now I get to make those voices and sometimes even personalities. It's like, I'm not a good person. So I get to make those voices and sometimes even personalities. It's like giving the car its own soundtrack. What kind of sounds are you designing for electric vehicles? Yeah, so we are working on all sorts of cool stuff. There's the sound that comes from the car that helps people hear it called the pedestrian friendly alert. So then there are sounds inside, like when you start the car, shift gears or press buttons. So you know when you are in a car and the driver starts going really fast and you can hear the engine inside the car? Well, with electric motors, that engine sound is really quiet. And if you can't hear sound that matches the speed you are moving, it will make you feel car sick because your senses aren't aligned. We also design engine like sounds that rise and fall as you speed up or slow down, like the car's own musical language that tells you how it's feeling. Nice. What do you think about when you're making these sounds? So I think what kind of character is this car? Is it brave, sporty, calm? Then I try to imagine what that character's voice would be. So we use computers, microphones, synthesizers and even real world sound recordings. So it's more about storytelling through sound, you know? Yeah, that's really cool. Are there rules you have to follow when you're designing the sounds? Totally. So there are safety rules like the sound has to be loud enough for people to hear it outside. And it can't be too scary or annoying and it has to work in every kind of weather as well. So there are also design rules that it says that it should match the car's look and feel. So sporty car shouldn't sound like a sleepy turtle. What's your favorite sound that you've made? Oh, that's a fun one. I'd love to make a car that sounds like a friendly robot dinosaur. Imagine a low rumble mixed with chirps and a soft roar. So I've been playing around with that sound. It's not scary, just awesome, like a T-Rex with a big heart. That's so cool. And I'm wondering if you could walk us through like one of the sounds you've made, the problem you were solving for and how, what you made and how you made it? Yeah, so designing EV sounds for me is like being a DJ, a composer and a wizard all at once. We use something called a synthesizer. It's like a magic paintbrush for sound. So we mix together different frequencies that's like sound colors and also wave shapes. That's like the brush strokes to paint a sound picture. So we think about what the car feels like, smooth, sporty or friendly. And then we turn that into the feeling into that sound. And not necessarily we always use a synthesizer to create that, but we also use a lot of authentic natural instruments as well. For example, to create the entire Cadillac Signature sound, we used an ancient Australian instrument called as the DigiRudu, which has some nice lower tones and frequencies, which kind of calms everyone down. That is so cool. Do you think that car sound design will change in the future as more cars become electric? Absolutely. As more cars go electric, sound becomes even more important. So we are not just copying old anguished sounds. We are inventing brand new sonic worlds. So one day maybe your car could sound like waves, wind or even your favorite video game sounds. Thanks for talking with us, Jay. Thank you, Jay. It's my pleasure. Hey, Molly. Hey, Sandy. Not a great time. We're still taping the electric cars episode. Yeah, I know. Sorry about that. I was just going to rearrange my candy corn closet and when I opened the door, do you know what washed out and covered me up to my waist? I'm going to guess candy corn. Dream come true. But no, it was mail from listeners. You know, drawings, mystery sound ideas, questions. Molly, we've got to get this mail situation under control. Stand back, Sandin. I have the solution. It's the brains on mail bag where we pick a random piece of mail and answer it on the spot. Sandin, do you have any pieces of mail with you? Oh, yeah. Here's one stuck to me. Was it stuck to your jacket with candy corn? Hold on. Let's see. Yeah, definitely. Yes. Okay, today's letter comes from John in Ann Arbor, who sent in a joke. Sandin, let's listen and you can respond. Hi, my name is John and I live in Ann Arbor, Michigan. And I have a joke for you. Why didn't the skeleton cross the road? Because it didn't have the guts. Loved it. And here's one for you, John. What do you call a skeleton who rings your doorbell? A dead ringer. Those jokes were both rib splitters. Listeners, we love getting mail and we want to hear from you. So go to brainson.org to send us your questions about the show or maybe your own hilarious joke. Or send us your idea for a new room in the brains on headquarters. Thanks. Coming up, we're going to play a very noisy game show. Rev up your engines and your ears. Want to hear our shows with no ads? You can and you'll be directly supporting everything we do at Brains On Universe. Head to brainson.org and join SmartyPass. You'll get ad free episodes, bonus stuff and access to virtual hangouts with our team. Thank you for keeping us strong. Now, Asher, all this car talk has gotten me in the mood for... A car themed game show? Yes. In this game, we'll play two sounds and you have to guess which one is a car and which is from something you might find around your house. You ready to play, Asher? Yes. All righty, then start your engine because here are your first two sounds. Okay, that's sound one and let's hear sound two. All right, which one is the car? I think it's sound two because it sounds like a tractor trailer. So you said the second one and you are correct. That was a car, Eidolon. Very nice. What do you think that first one was? Let's hear it again. I think it was like a dryer because it sounds kind of a little offset. You have very good ears. That was, however, a ceiling fan. Oh, that makes sense because it would sound like air. Similar movement to a dryer. Okay, let's hear the next pair. Here's sound number one. Here's sound number two. Whoa. All right, which one do you think is a car? I think it's second again because I'd never really heard the second one and also the first one sounds like exactly like a hairdryer. Oof, my friend. You are correct. The second one was the sound of an electric Corvette. So one of those cool electric car sounds. And the first one was a hairdryer. Yes. Very, very good. All right, we have one more pair for you. Here's the first one. Okay, and then the second sound. So which of those sounds was made by a car? This one is tricky because they sound relatively alike. Do you want to hear them again? Sure. What do you think? I think it's number one because it sounds kind of like a turn signal and all the other ones have me number two. You are totally correct. That was a turn signal. Do you have any thoughts about what the second one was? No, I have no idea. Yeah, that's a tricky one because it's a pocket watch. Have you ever seen a pocket watch, Asher? Yeah, I used to have this red one. Oh, you're a fancy person. I love that you had a pocket watch. Very good work, Asher. You have excellent, excellent ears. Thank you. Speaking of sounds, what's making that one? Electric sparks the electric car. Electra, you've got your new sounds installed. And wow, they are unique. Yes, I picked them myself. Aren't they amazing? They certainly are. I'm pretty sure you'll never sneak up on anyone ever again. Gas powered cars use internal combustion engines. These engines create lots of little explosions which help the wheels turn. But these engines can be noisy. Electric cars run on electricity, which charges up their batteries, like how we charge a cell phone or a laptop computer. Electric powered motors are much quieter than gas engines. So designers create special sounds for them to play so people can hear them coming. And to keep everyone safe. That's it for this episode of Brains On. This episode was written by Rosie de Pont and Mark Sanchez. This episode was edited by Sam and Totten and Shayla Farzlan, and fact-checked by Shayla Farzlan. We had engineering help from Jason Reeve and Eric Romani with sound design and original music by Mark Sanchez. Our website design is by Ken Toborsky at CodeOfTheNorth.com. Special thanks to Jeremy and Pamela Langel, Tobin, Aaron and Paxton, and Eric Ringham. Also, big shout out to Jasper DeCroix for his research assistance. Brains On is part of the Brains On universe. Want to hear other shows in our orbit? Want to hear them ad-free? It's easy. Just join SmartyPass. Visit our ad-free subscription service where you can find episodes of Smash Boom Best forever ago and Brains On. There's even extra-secret bonus stuff for you. You can become a member today with options starting at just $6 a month or $60 a year. Head to BrainsOn.org. While you're there, you can send us mystery sounds, drawings and questions. Alright, Asher, are you ready to listen to that mystery sound again? Yes. Alright, here it is. What do you think? I'm trying to think of something besides a sled because it doesn't really actually sound like snow crunching. Sounds kind of like there was air moving over the sound thing, though. Maybe it was rocks falling into something. Oh, very nice. In the game show, you got so many mystery sounds correct. So, this is just a cherry on top if you get it right, as far as I'm concerned. I still have no idea. I think I'm going to stick with my sled idea. Alright, and I'm going to stick with my milkshake idea because I'm still very hungry. Let's hear the answer. Hi, Arnay, D'Arre, Avery and Addison, we're from Illinois. That was the sound of a candle burning. What? Oh, it must have been like one of those maybe wood candles, maybe a lot one. Because I don't really notice a candle sound. Me neither. I wonder if it's one of those like sparky ones. Have you seen those like special birthday candles that kind of give off sparks? Yeah, it could have been a wood wick candle, like one with a wick that's made out of wood and it crackles. Oh, I've never even seen one of those. Now I'm going to be on the lookout. Me too. Now it's time for the brain's honor roll. These are the incredible kids who keep the show going with their questions, ideas, mystery sounds, drawings and high fives. Sebastian from Arlington, Virginia. Barry from Montchroy, France. Cal from San Marcos, Texas. Zoe from Massachusetts. Lillian from Tucson, Arizona. Gage from Bodden, Pennsylvania. Lexi from Melbourne, Australia. Emery from San Angelo, Texas. Emmett from Murfreesboro, Tennessee. Taven from Montana and from Sherry Hill, New Jersey. Liam from Cumming, Georgia. Trace from Memphis, Tennessee. Jupiter from Blue Mountains, Australia. Adelaide from Grants Pass, Oregon. Alma and Eva from Bilneas, Lithuania. Madeline and Lydia from New York City. Fatima and Muhammad from Saudi Arabia. Tessa from Asheville, North Carolina. Wyatt from Fairlawn, New Jersey. Barry from Fort Worth, Texas. Max from Brooklyn, New York. Illya from Washington, D.C. Claire from Bethesda, Maryland. Dorian from South Portland, Maine. Lucas from Woodstock, Georgia. Theo from Atlanta. Elsie from Dubai. Katherine from Richmond Hill, Ontario. Eastwood from Cebolo, Texas. Nora from Minneapolis. Ella from Phoenix. Isaac from East Orange, New Jersey. Harper from Sydney, Australia. Stonia from Morris, Minnesota. Jack and Margo from Oklahoma City. Nico from Washington, D.C. Estelle and Josephine from Salt Lake City. Rebecca from Needham, Massachusetts. Siddharth from Seattle. Luke and Riley from Saskatoon. Vaillone from Pasadena, California. Ryan from Coquitlam, British Columbia. Mia from Burri in Washington. Olive from Toronto. Arthur and Vivian from Dayton, Minnesota. Claire from Charlottetown. Prince Edward Island. Beckett from Geneva, Illinois. Avery from Redmond, Washington. Salvi from Wakefield, Massachusetts. Everett from Liberty Hill, Texas. Penny from Jacksonville, Florida. Eva from San Francisco. Ray from New Jersey. Abby from Wilmington, Delaware. Josephine from Richmond, British Columbia. Cadence and Lydia from Toronto. Greta from New York City. Emmett from Bolton, United Kingdom. Prince, I'm home. I fight. Coming up next week, Octopuses. You might just hear somebody say, Do you by chance have any crabs? Thanks for listening.