OKC Thunder’s Alex Caruso, Maxx Crosby Is A Raven, Jayson Tatum Is Back, CBB Regular Season Finale And LIV Golf Conspiracy

Hey, Part of My Take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. On today's Part of My Take, presented by DraftKings, we have our good friend, one-and-a-half-time NBA champion, Alex Caruso, in studio. Great time catching up with him, talking some ball as the season winds down, talking about winning one-and-a-half championships, being on the cover of our book. we're also going to talk some NFL moves that have happened Max Crosby you are a Raven college basketball March Madness conference championship last weekend of the regular season Jason Tatum has returned who's back of the week it's going to be a great Monday show and it's all brought to you this episode is brought to you by Body Armor Flash IV the official rapid rehydration drink of March Madness Flash IV is packed with electrolytes delivering faster, longer-lasting hydration without any artificial dyes, flavors, or sweeteners. 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He's like, I leave, and then they go out, and they make a move with the first-round pick, and they get a stud. Obviously, Max Crosby, again, wanted to be a Raid. Max Crosby, I think, handled the trade request the best way possible for any superstar to ever do it. Given how bad the Raiders are as well. Given how bad the Raiders are, they had no choice. Max eventually reached the end of his road, and the end of his road was not letting him play for a shitty team. When they benched him, when they said, you're not allowed to play for a shitty Raiders team because we want to get a higher draft pick, he said, that is a bridge too far. Trade me out of town. And, I mean, if you're the Raiders, good for you. You got two first-round picks. Two first-round picks. Good haul. Yep. You're going to pick twice in the first round this year, twice in the first round next year. There's a lot of teams now have two first round picks. It is interesting because the Ravens feel like the team for however long. I mean, pretty much their entire history. It's like what they do is they draft really well. They don't have to do these type of moves. And then they do this move after John Harbaugh's, you know, fired or whatever. The parting of ways. Jesse Minter's there. And it's interesting to see because it's like, oh, yeah, maybe the Ravens haven't drafted as well recently. So now they do have to do that. They have to join everyone else. and be these guys, their defense is going to be scary. I love the transition from Max Crosby was always meant to be playing in a badass uniform. So Raiders to Ravens, it's like, okay, that's good. Like if he went to the Dolphins, I would have been upset. It's going to look really, really weird. Yeah. But it's going to look awesome. It's going to look so sick. The purple Ravens uniform with Max Crosby. Actually, it's going to be really weird for Pittsburgh fans to be bullying a guy named Crosby. Yeah, there's a lot of memes going around. Joe Burrow having to face Max Crosby, Miles Garrett, and TJ Watt. he then went on a possible date with Jessica Alba. So good job, Joe Burrow. Yeah. So I want to back. He went on a possible date. Possible date. It was at a blackjack table. So I don't know if it was. I don't know if that's a. They happen to be there at the same time. Okay. I would put that under a possible date. Yeah. Late night. I think it was late night. Yeah. I think it was late night. So possible date. Yeah. Joe Burrow and Jessica Alba playing late night blackjack. That's good. It's down the road in Cleveland. There's a quarterback that always hits on 17. I had to zoom in because I was like, is that actually Joe Burrow? Joe Burrow can look different in every picture he has. Well, the hair just always. He always has a different hairstyle, and it's always a great hairstyle. Yeah. Yeah. So, all right. So, Max Crosby. I wanted Max Crosby on the Bears, and I think that we as fans do this thing where if you don't get the guy you want, you immediately say, well, two first rounds. I'm so happy we didn't get Max Crosby. I think it's okay to say, hey, you know what? I really wanted Max Crosby on the Bears. Yeah, I did. Of course, Max Crosby is – every team should want Max Crosby. Yeah, but you know how you immediately cope and you're like, oh, well, I would never have traded two first-rounders. No, Max Crosby is really fucking good, and it would have been awesome to have Max Crosby playing on the Bears. Now you've got to do it the other way. You've got to nail your draft picks, and the Ravens now have to – the question I have for UPFD is, are the Ravens basically saying, Lamar Jackson, he's 29, He's got, we got like a three, four year window where we're going to have to go all in here because it does, you're kind of, you're like fork in the road. Are you trying to keep your draft capital to keep reloading around Lamar Jackson? You're like, hey, let's go win this right now. Yeah, I think that what they're doing is with a new head coach, they promised their new head coach they're going to be aggressive. Yeah. And now they're being aggressive for him. Like, that's why I'm saying, like, I thought of Harbaugh at first, because like, this is something that every coach in the NFL should want. Yes. And so I think with Mentor, they're like, because there are other teams that wanted him as their head coach. I think they said, come to Baltimore. We've got Lamar Jackson, and he will be here for the foreseeable future. But also, if you come here, we promise that we're going to be aggressive. Yeah. We're going to try to win ASAP. So that's what they're doing. And yeah, I think that, yes, the Bears did want Crosby. A lot of teams wanted Crosby. But really, thoughts and prayers to the Dallas Cowboys, who are now leading the NFL in number of guys that they're monitoring. Yeah. Not only for trades, but for also free agency. they've been monitoring every situation. So they were monitoring the Crosby situation extremely closely, and they're very disappointed that they did not get Max Crosby despite the fact that they're monitoring. They offered a first and a second is what was said. They said devastated. They're devastated they didn't get him. Which would have been actually like an incredible move for the Cowboys to basically get Quinn and Williams and Max Crosby, trade Micah Parsons and still kind of net out ahead. But yeah, then the price got too high because it was two firsts. I have a question for you, Hank. Yeah. Did you want Max Crosby? Of course. On the Patriots. Would it surprise you to know- Who says no to Max Crosby? Agreed. Yeah. I wanted Max Crosby. Bad. Would it surprise you to know that Tom Brady did not want Max Crosby on the Patriots? No. It would not surprise you. It would not. It would surprise you to know that he actively may have been the one that prevented him from going to the Patriots. Per who? This is per a source on ESPN.com that talked to, I believe, Jeremy Fowler. I saw Mike Florio. He wrote an article about the article. That's what Mike does. So he's an aggregator. Sounds like a tall tale. A tall tale. Okay, here's the exact quote. One person involved in the trade made an interesting point about the Patriots' chances at Crosby. No way Tom was sending Max to Vrabel. Why wouldn't that person name? Why wouldn't they reveal their source name? Because if you're a journalist, you don't reveal your source name. It's a tall tale. Because then people won't talk to you. And there's probably a pretty high chance it was just Alex Guerrero. Yeah. But I don't think Alex Guerrero would say that about Tom, would he? No, Alex Guerrero might just be the source on every week. Every week, okay. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. He's just talking to everyone. No, I mean, the way Brady, like, the last year went was a little weird with how he talked about Drake May and the Patriots, so that doesn't shock me. If it were true, I'm not confirmed. I don't believe that it is true. Are you mad? If it's true, are you mad? No. Okay, so you don't think. If it's not true, are you mad? Yes. oh you're if it's not true you're mad it's not true i'm mad that the media is once again trying to yeah yeah drama hank is saying like it's bullshit that they made this up but even if they made it up i don't care right got it you're mad that's what you just said i made it up i care if it's true i don't care right but that's what i said no it feels like if they made it up i don't care which is not true but if if it was if it were true you don't care at all no i mean there's It's clearly something there's a little bit of weird energy around Brady, Kraft, Belichick, everything. But we're not. We're focused on Vrabel, May, and the team in front of us. Do you think that it's because Brady wanted to buy part of the New England Patriots? Could be. And Robert Kraft said, I would prefer not to sell you part of the team because that would be a lot of money. And you can't afford it. Broke boy. Call him a broke boy. Yeah. And then Mark Davis was like, I will give you a hometown discount. Well, Mark Davis was like, as a broke boy, I'm happy for you to join the broke boy crew. Or it's just like we're assembling a team of lady killers out here in the desert. Hot boys. Are the Raiders not getting sold soon? Well, he's making so many savvy business moves, Hank, that he might be able to afford the inheritance sacks. Yeah. Mark Davis was just like, hey, Brady, we're going to be putting together a pussy patrol out here. You want in? He's like, yeah. Yeah. So, like, Mark Davis is walking around being like, yeah, we're actually dating Alex Earl. Yeah, it's just the boy. He's counting that as a crew. It's a win. It's a win. You know. I also think Brady's a smart guy. If the deal was just as good, if not better, like, he would have taken it. He might not have, like, wanted to deal with the Patriots, but if, like, it was a good deal, he would have done it. Do you think, Mark Davis, you remember Mike McDonald at the end of the year showed that he had a big spike and it was just all the helmets of the teams they built? I think Mark Davis has that with all the chicks he and Tom Brady are slaying. Yeah, probably. He probably does in his office. He's got an actual notch that he puts on his bedpost whenever Brady bangs a chick. He's not doing any of the banging, but Brady's out there for him. He hangs Brady's tie up on his office door. It's a great pickup. We got some last night. Are the cameras okay? Cameras are wild and out right now. No, cameras are good. I've just been seeing them going in all different directions. What was up with the one that was just staring straight down at Henry? We were just going for a new angle for Hank there. Oh, nice. How does the angle look? It looks good. It looks artistic and nice. All right, watch the show. Nice, Hank. Nice. Okay, so we also had Khalil Mack signed back with the Chargers. Tyler Biotich signed with the Chargers as well. That's another center off. He's a very good player. The Bills re-signed their center, so the center market actually feels like it's the hottest market out there. The Packers signed their center who started seven games, signed them for $11 million a year. Yeah, Linderbaum might get every penny of what he's asking for. Yeah. This might be the craziest center market ever. I saw one tweet. I forget who had it, but it made me laugh when the news about Dahlman came out last week. That was like, first of all, I hope he's okay. Second of all, there has to be some recourse that we can have as fans when players do this. Yes, we need to have something. And so what is that guy talking about? Do you think prison? Do you think he's talking about sending a guy to jail? I think he just wants all the money back and the feelings too. draft picks compensation like you should reparations take out a pay whatever happened to taking out a full page in a newspaper yeah we need reparations yeah thanking thanking all the fans i agree with that guy maybe he has to give away like 100 footballs or something signed footballs yeah something like that but yeah so conor mcgovern uh resigned with the bills and yeah the center market like the garrett bradbury i think the trade happened on friday garrett bradbury was traded from the patriots to the bears and i was thinking the whole time like this can't be the answer at center for the Bears, but then you see the other moves, like the center market just might be the hottest market in the world. Yeah. So it's a good move by Poles. Dudes don't play center anymore. Yeah. It's crazy. I don't know who the, besides Linderbaum, and there's going to be like five teams that are going after Linderbaum. I don't know what the plan is for the commanders. It's weird that we moved on from Bjadish because he was a really good player for us. Yeah. And he's just a great center, and you saw a lot of teams were interested in him. You got 30 million. I don't know what the plan is if it's because of what we're trying to do, like with David Blau's high-octane offense. That's true. Maybe no center? Maybe no center, a positionless offensive line. I don't know. Anything could happen with David Blau. That's the one thing that's for certain. Yeah. What other big – were there any other big – I mean, free agency basically starts, as you're listening to this, today at noon. Yeah. The non-tampering, which is going to be totally tampering. Yeah. But was there any other big – oh, yeah, Jordan Davis got re-signed. Is Jalen Carter on the market, Max? Nah, that's Florio. Oh, you got Florio. Okay. What about this memes? Is this a Florio-ing or is this a real take? I don't want to. Is Geno Smith returning to the Jets a possibility? By the way, before you answer this, the fact that we went on Thursday, a hypothetical, what's sadder, Tua or Derek Carr, and then immediately after, they're like, actually Carson Wentz and Gino Smith. I apologize. That got darker. Gino, maybe not, but Carson Wentz, that got dark. Although Max likes to pretend that he still likes Carson Wentz. Wentz still got some gas in the tank. What about Gino? You're not opposed to Gino? Not opposed to Gino. I saw one stat that showed he did something good last year. Oh. It was like when receivers were open. I'd have to find the exact same. He threw the ball? When the receiver was open, he was good at hitting them. He was behind Josh Allen and Caleb Williams. Okay. When he had wide open receivers. Or no, when he wasn't rushed in the pocket. Okay. I got to find the stat. Yeah, you got to track that stat down. Yeah, he can throw wide open receivers. We got to get the stat. The stat is the Jets don't have IK and whatever his last name is on the roster. Oh, whoa. Take it easy, Drewski. What? No, that was like the big controversy. He messed up Jackson Smith and Jacob's last name at the NFL Honors. Everyone's like, you stole this moment from him. Oh, well, yeah. It's not that serious. I mean, but the guy, it's either somebody mispronouncing his last name or the guy that broke Gino Smith's jaw. Yeah. Whichever way you want to go with that guy. I just watched memes type in Gino Smith, Josh Allen, Caleb Williams. Okay. I was trying to figure out a way that I could possibly search this. Okay. So you're going to, what are you looking at? Well, he said it was behind Josh Allen and Caleb Williams. Oh, got it. We need to find this stat. Bad stat. So yes on Gino. Yeah, why not? Redemption story. Start his career here. I'm coming home video. I'm coming home. Yeah. That would rock. Anything's better than Carson Wentz. That is true. Yeah. Can I interest you in Andy Dalton? Nope. Actually. Andy Dalton, gun to your head. Andy Dalton or Carson Wentz? Ooh. Gun to my head? Carson Wentz. Memes. That's also incorrect I'm going to give you actually I'm going to give the Jets a big compliment here This is just an incredible Way for them to anchor negotiations Where they can Like Carson Wentz gets you as low as possible Then you're in for Geno Smith It's kind of like the Bears Stadium situation which I've been saying All along like when they first said Arlington Heights everyone's like you can't move the Bears out of Chicago Then they're like what about Indiana No you can't move them out of state Okay what about Arlington Heights Oh that's sick they're basically saying, hey, Carson Wentz. No, we can't have Carson Wentz. Okay, what about Geno Smith? Oh, actually, that's pretty good compared to Carson Wentz. Smart. No, you're correct. I just don't think Aaron Glenn, who's probably going to get fired at the end of this year, is going to risk his career. He's pre-fired? I think so. I think he's dead man walking. Sleeping man? Yeah, sleeping man walking. But if I had to guess, it would be Jacoby Preset and Ty Simpson going into the season. Oh. I actually Ty Simpson is worth it Like seeing what's up Kick the tires? Yeah, absolutely Yeah, we'll see, but that's what I've been seeing On the old X app So the Raiders haven't They haven't released Geno yet, have they? No, I don't think you can until the new league year starts Do you think there's any chance that Tom Brady Pretty much the president of the Raiders Is going to be like, Geno Smith is so good I'm going to trade him to the Jets Just so that he can beat the Patriots twice Every year No. Okay. But maybe the shadow commissioner. Yeah. Tom Brady. I'm going to look at every transaction that the Raiders make in the light of, will this hurt the Patriots or not? That's all he's thinking about? Yeah, that's all he does. He's not managing the Raiders as much as he is just like anti-matter to the New England Patriots right now. Yeah. I'm wondering, is there going to be anything that's truly shocking us on when free agency starts? I think it feels like a lot of quarterbacks where you're going to have to sell yourself on trading places. Yeah. And Tyler Lindebaum will be big. I think where Kyler decides to go is going to be very interesting. Yeah. Because no matter where he goes, I think we'll be able to say some very definitive statements about Kyler. That might be wrong, but we'll definitely say them. Yeah. If he goes to Minnesota, we'll be like, oh, well, he's fixed. His career is awesome. Kyler is great. He's going to walk off the airplane and be better. Right. If he goes to the Jets, it's like, oh, Kyler wanted to take a paycheck. Right. And he still doesn't care about football. Right. And then we might be wrong. We might be right. But yeah, that's what I'm really interested to see. That's where he ends up. Do you think Russ is just sitting and being like, free agency, about to start? See how this goes. Yeah. Going to get some calls. Yeah. He might. Joe Flacco said he wants to compete to be a starter. I want him to compete to be a starter, too. I want him to want that. Yeah. I want to see Russ cold calling teams, like sitting down in a boiler room. Yeah. Like, hey, can I interest you, sir? I'm calling about your extend warranty on your quarterback. Can I interest you in a young Super Bowl champion quarterback, young in terms of globally? Yes. Yes. Can I have you? I have noticed that your team is operating under a limited mindset. Could I interest you in someone who could be unlimited? Yeah. I'm interested to see what the Cowboys do. Because, again, if you've paid attention to what they keep saying, Jerry Jones is monitoring everything at all times. Can we talk real quick? He's got a situation room. With Dak? Yeah, I was just saying, can we talk about the Cowboys' big story this weekend? So I don't know how much this is true, but Dak and his fiance have called it off a month before the wedding, and it happened during combo bachelor and bachelorette parties. I didn't know it was a combo. I think it was a combo? Yeah, joint bachelor party. Now, that right there is where you fuck. I can't stress this enough. If you do a joint bachelor and bachelor party, you just... That's pre-crime. That's the most insane thing possible. I didn't realize it was joint. That's insane. I don't think it's necessarily pre-crime, but it is certainly not QB1 behavior. It's bad behavior. That means you just don't trust each other, and also it's weird, and it's going to be a weird... the entire party's gonna suck because you're gonna like oh yeah the boys are doing this today the girls are doing that then we're gonna meet for dinner what no that's not how it works that's crazy ban it you shouldn't be allowed to get married well they're not getting married well yeah i know so maybe that's maybe someone stepped in they're like oh you guys are doing this joint so wait dak prescott split some fiance just one month before their wedding after blow-up argument on joint bachelor and bachelorette party no duh you can't do that you can't do the joints that's Crazy. So apparently she invited a bunch of other wives and girlfriends from the Cowboys, like other players on the Cowboys. Yeah. Their significant others were hanging out with them. It was like the Dallas Cowboys and then Dak's girlfriend's friends who are also Cowboys players' girlfriends. I got to know what the argument was about. I thought it was about a prenup. Oh, I thought it was about like, hey, we're not going to the strip club tonight. Or no, we don't want to play beer pong anymore. because that's what I would imagine is the starter of every joint bachelor or bachelorette party fight, right? It's either that or steakhouse or pasta. Yeah. Steakhouse or Italian. Wow. I truly believe you can get through anything in life as long as you have really great friends. I love these girls so much. She posted that two days ago with a picture of the bachelorette party. Was that post-breakup or during? Post. And they stayed up? I got to know also at what point in the weekend did they break up? because then it just becomes an awesome weekend if the breakup is official. Then you go your separate ways and you have a great time. That might have been the move. Maybe Dak actually is genius because he's like, yeah, she dragged me to a, she insisted on a joint bachelor-bachelorette party. This is going to suck, but what I'm going to do is I'm going to break up with her on Friday, have my bachelor party, and then we'll get back together on Tuesday. That's got to be what happened. As a guy who believes Dak is the 17th best quarterback in the NFL, I'm going to say that's probably what happened. I defend Dak. I question his decision-making just from the start on this. QB1, you do your own bachelor party. Better yet, your bachelor party is just training. Just meet up with the boys out in Arizona and just practicing for a week. Yeah. You play the best golf club. He proposed. She's a big golfer. Oh, really? He proposed with a ring and a fake golf ball. I love that that story got on your radar I just was reading it It was a ring inside of a fake golf ball Oh wow I hid the ring in a fake golf ball I dropped it she almost hit it I'm just glad she said yeah super blessed There's no way she almost hit it Those fake golf balls all look so fake I don't understand the concept of the fake golf ball He like he teed it up for her Yeah or just dropped it on the It looks like he dropped it on the green I found your ball and she's like wait are you You're already cheating? Oh, wow. It's not a ball. It's an engagement ring. Gotcha. This was doomed. If they... Oh, man. Awkward for people who were planning to go to the wedding. Less of kids. Oh. Okay. Okay, I didn't know that. It's a little messier. Put that disclaimer at the start of this conversation. Did not realize that. That sucks. They'll probably be good athletes. so she is a certified wine and spirit specialist that's a great job she's got a career there she's got a good career yeah so why why are we believing this nonsense about a prenup it sounds like she's independently wealthy my my hand up i want to say part of the laugh was when you said wine and spirits i forgot spirits or alcohol but it it would also be funny if it was wine and like spiritual spirituality wine and ghosts yeah she does faith-based wine sales yeah or just like yeah wine and crystals like healing power okay so that's a big dallas cowboys move i do think they have to figure that out before they even dip their toe in free agency like dac what's going on here talk us through this let's watch the tape maybe that's what they need to do is uh schottenheimer has to sit in like it's a true like monday morning film session and be like all right Here's a picture of you guys on the boat. Here's a picture of you guys at dinner. What was going through your head? What made you make this decision to do this joint bachelor party? Listen, I'm going to wait for all the facts to come out. And by facts, I mean I'm going to wait to see what Skip Bayless says about the situation. Because him and Ernestine broke down the Iran war. I saw that. And it was really compelling stuff. And when I say Skip and Ernestine broke it down, Ernestine was like, let's talk about the war in Iran. And then Skip talked for like seven minutes. Yeah. But whatever he said, he still got it. They are, Skip and Ertisene are very, like, the 101 Dalmatians, you know, the opening scene when every owner looks like their dog. They're getting, they're starting to look a lot alike. Yeah, their takes are almost too similar, too. A lot alike. Okay, let's talk some other stuff. DraftKings. Basketball is a game of runs, and it moves fast. That's why DraftKings Sportsbook is built for live betting from tip-off to final buzzer. Live betting lets you react. 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The crown is yours. dot com slash promos limited time offers okay speaking of nba and basketball hank jason tatum returns return no minutes restriction yeah some was like they were just not telling us the truth he was fine he's fine he was a little i mean he took him like a half to truly get warmed up he he did have like a blow by dunk that he just got stuffed by the rim but that that kind of comes with with time and minutes played he looked good though he was facilitating on the injury report Yeah. Okay. Well, he's out. They said he's out. Yeah. So, yeah. Okay. It's crazy that he's back this fast and looked completely fine. Yeah, he looked good. I love the fact that he was kind of traveling. He spent the whole year traveling with the team, being around the boys. Traveling with the team. No, traveling with the team. Crab dribble. I thought he came back and he was just traveling. He's been establishing his pivot foot. Yeah. Gather step. It's just he looks so good. The Celtics look so good. Congratulations. He's got a little shine on you. Congrats. If you're a guy that had a 15-1 future, 14-1, something like that, you're probably sitting pretty right now. It's all the way down to 5.5-1. Yeah, it was a very sharp play. I cashed out because Hank immediately was like, I can't believe that he's doing this to me again, and I didn't want to see my boy Hank go through. Listen, I beat up on Hank pretty good during the Super Bowl run. I broke him, and I didn't want to continue doing that. I like how Hank and I, our relationship has gotten better since the Super Bowl. I didn't want to go down that road. I want this to be a spring of friendship. So I cashed out of the- Coward. Oh! Coward. It's back on, but it's going to be back on. He called you a coward. It's going to be back on in much, much worse ways. I just want you to know that. Like, it'll get worse. It's going to get worse. It's going to get worse. What's the worst ways? I mean, I'm not going to tell them. Okay. I just want you to agree to it getting worse. I don't agree to anything. I didn't agree to you or disagree with, like, you taking the future, but- You called you a coward. You cashed out. I cashed out the next day because you were crying about it. I was not crying about it. Hank was crying. You cried about it? I came to work and he was crying. I was not crying. So you thinking Soupy? Zach, he was crying, wasn't he? You saw him cry. I didn't see any. He might have cried. I don't know. But there's been false claims of crying before, so he could have not been crying. Are you thinking championship? You got it. I mean, the way he came back and looks. it's not that he's back like the fact that he's back is nuts the fact he's back and also looks like the same guy is mind-boggling he looks the same and they're obviously already second in the east missoula is such a good coach and like i said i think the fact it's not like some players they get injured they have a big injury like that they kind of go away from the team he's been around the team he's been watching every game he's been in the locker room been in the film he's been able to see kind of how he can step in and still help the team get better which is huge i think he's he was facilitating well he's gonna you know be able to step up and have his moments but he's also not forcing it and like trying to take over because when your team's already second in the east you don't need to come back and be a superstar come back and help facilitate jalen brown yeah but actually i think the funniest now would be if he like if he gets if the celtics win the nba championship and he gets finals mvp then jalen brown's out like jalen brown's not gonna handle that well yeah did you see jalen brown i disagree i love jalen brown talking about it it's like they're in lockstep they they they don't listen to the media at all and it's just great to to see them talk about it because it's like he's just happy to see his friend back doing what he loves did you see jalen brown's quote about uh how he thinks he's the best two-way player in the end and the nba yeah so good he said when i say i'm the best two-way player in the league it's not counting wemby he's not even human i'm the best human player it's a great quote yeah he is he's the best human player to Wemby is not a human he's a regular guy yeah Wemby by the way that was awesome on Friday night talk about crying yeah I liked it same I thought it was cool so Wemby they they had back-to-back games Wemby also had earlier in the week like one of his best friends went missing for uh I think it was like maybe 12 24 hours he was he was actually in Chicago got dropped off the airport didn't board his flight like kind of you know scary Wemby was posting about it um so his friend got found on tuesday played on thursday one played on friday they were down 25 come back and win uh and he was crying after it was like this is awesome because he just seems like the a guy who just loves basketball and he's an alien he's an absolute alien but yeah uh i was actually looking at the mvp regular season mvp odds there's a good chance that like the top two guys or the top three guys aren't eligible. Yeah, they're eligible. We're on games missed watch. Oh, yeah, big time. For, like, what, Shea, Wimby, and Jokic, right? Yep. That's why Cade is, I think, pretty high up in the odds. Do you guys trust the Pistons? No. I don't trust them. But here's my one big desire for the NBA postseason this year. I would love to see the Celtics and the Sixers go at it. Yeah, I think that would be great. I'm down. Yeah, Sixers suck. The whole team's hurt. Two to the head. I would just love that. Two to the head. I love it. Is there a world where that can happen? Yeah. Yeah, the Sixers are eighth. They make it. Yeah, they may not make it. Oh, play-in. Max, if the Sixers are on the play-in, would you prefer that they just lose that? I don't know. What's the implication for your draft picks? Because I know you and OKC have something going on. Dude, the play-in's fun. It's so fun. The play-in is not fun. You complain about the play-in every year. I would like to not be in the play-in. The play-in is so fun, dude, because you get to play in and then get your ass kicked. Yeah, like the Sixers suck. Play-in. Paul George, honestly. Play-in. Losing Paul George is like ruin the season. He'll be back. I guess. Yeah, he's suspended. He's not hurt. They suck. Jared McCain's balling. He is balling. Good point, Hank. I never wanted to get rid of Jared McCain. We're going to talk about it with Alex Caruso and whether he'll do a TikTok with him in our interview coming up. All right, should we talk some? Oh, wow. Iowa just hit a three to tie it against Nebraska. That's a good game. The college basketball. The bubble. The bubble is bursting. Everyone on the bubble on Saturday. Final regular season weekend of the year Pretty much everyone who was on the bubble lost And now it becoming a slop fest to see who going to get in the tournament Auburn at 16 and 15 is just like basically the poster boy of we don't need more of this, yet they keep somehow surviving all these teams losing and being somewhat still alive. So on Saturday it was Virginia Tech, Missouri, SMU, Cincinnati, Cal, New Mexico, Indiana and Auburn all lost. All firm bubble teams both on the right and wrong side. And now we have a mess. Indiana's on the right side though, right? Wrong side. Indiana's on the wrong side? Oh yeah. Yeah. They're in trouble. They're in trouble. The monkey's paw is curling up in Bloomington when they're like, I hope that my team is good at football for once. And it's like, what's the cost going to be? Yeah. Well, you're just not going to make the dance. Yeah. But we have some conference tournaments that are happening, which is awesome. We had the LIU fins up. They're officially in the dance because they get in on the stupidest technicality in all sports. They're playing in the championship game against Mercyhurst, but Mercyhurst is a Division I team as of like a year ago, so they can't be in. Fins up. We had, I think it was Northern Iowa's back in the dance for... I love school. This is what I love about March too is when you have a team that has done one big thing at any point in their history, It just, the nostalgia comes like washing back. Like if Valpo gets in, you're like, oh, Valpo's in. Northern Iowa's in that category. Uwee Pooey. Yeah. When they're in. Yeah. Yeah. It's just like, this is fun because you just know, like there, there's memories to be had. San Diego State. Yep. But there's, but yeah, I mean, San Diego State, very, you know, final four, but yeah, Northern Iowa. And we're going to get to relive all that they had. So they're in. A bunch of teams have gotten in, and now we have Conference Championship Week, which I'm very excited for. What did you think about the clock operator in the BU game? I thought it was more crazy that Navy just didn't play defense on the final possession. But yeah, and now there's a lot of people complaining about the – this is something that I've noticed that has jumped up this year. I don't really take too much credence into it, but people complaining about teams, conferences, one bid conferences, not sending their best team because their best team gets upset in the conference tournament and being like, we've got to rework this. Why? That's the best part. Yeah. Is that you can just win. Everyone's still eligible all throughout the season. You can still get in. Yeah. Chaos is what makes that's what makes March, March. We're not going to be missing out on any of the teams that can win the championship. but we might get some crazy ones in there that really have no business being in the tournament but that's fun that's what makes sports fun that's what makes march fun i like how upset miami is making people continues to make people so miami first of all that game friday night was unbelievable miami ohio versus ohio like just everything you want in action high scoring middle fingers big intensity yeah i don't know about the middle fingers if you're if you're a guy didn't play in the game i guess too much bench mob whatever yeah um it's the most aggressive bench mob in the Rivalry game. Yeah, rivalry game. Miami of Ohio is so simple to me in that they should 100% be in now that they've run the table and won their 31-0 and they won every conference game. It's also okay to say they've played absolutely no one, which is totally fine. Their non-conference schedule was dog shit, but it doesn't matter. To me, it doesn't matter. If you win every game in your conference and you're 31-0 on the last weekend of regular season, You should be in no matter what happens in the conference tournament. They're not even favorites to win the MAAC conference tournament. Akron is. They keep beating really bad teams by very small margins. They've won a lot of games against awful teams by small margins at home even this year. How many teams in the top 200 have they played this year? Let's see. I'll pull it up right now. I know their non-conference schedule was very bad. Their 90th on Ken Palm. Yeah. In the top 200 or top 100? Top 200. Yeah, because they haven't played a team in the top 100. Oh, no, Akron is a top 100 team. So they did beat Akron top 100 team. Top 200. They Wright State won two, three. Now we're doing the Francesa. Four, five, six, seven, eight. Eight teams in the top 200. That's pretty hilarious. And like I said, only one team in the top 100. their non-conference schedule. They beat teams like Trinity, Christian, Indiana, East, and Milligan. Listen, one thing we're not going to do on part of the team... But I don't care. They should be in. I do not care. One thing we're not going to do is insult a team for having beaten a bunch of terrible, terrible teams when it comes to playoff time. That's not in the DNA of this show. But it's so funny because everyone's in fits where it's like you have to decide which side you are on here, and I feel like you don't. You could just say Miami of Ohio deserves to be in. 100% deserves to be in the tournament. I actually think it'd be really funny if they gave them a one seed, being like they're undefeated. But they deserve to be in. They also played a shitty schedule, and a lot of it wasn't their fault. They tried to schedule a bunch of these teams, and they said no. We could have Miami-Miami in the first round of the playoff, right? Yeah. Like the way that these two teams are shaking out of the bracketology? Yeah. I think, I don't know where, I think my, yeah. Maybe in second round matchup? Miami-Ohio is 11 right now, and Miami is 8. Oh, so no. Well, if Miami of Ohio wins the MAAC, they might get up to a 9. Yeah. That would be... I would like to see that. And also, I hate people being like, can't wait for them to get their asses kicked in the tournament. Why? They're a fun story. We've lost our love for March. I don't like it. I saw someone throw out a crazy take that was like, we should make the tournament 32 teams because the other 32 have no business being in it. And it's the whole idea is to decide a champion, not Cinderella. It's like, no. No, no, that's not it. Absolutely not. That's not it. It is different from football. Like, it's much. You can have a much worse team, like, any given game in the tournament. You catch fire. It's all. That's what we remember. Literally why we love March. Upsets early. Good teams late. Give it to us. I'm a little worried, though, because we are getting some back to the conversation about the conference should be sending their best teams. it is like having these moments early on where you have some big time upsets in the conference tournament. It does make it a little bit easier for the first four seeds in the first round. Because you just have a 14 and 15 team as the 15 seed. They're not going to win a game. Yeah. And is it the stat? I think I pulled it up here the other day. Yeah, I got it right here. You want to be, if you're thinking about second round wins, you would much rather be a 10 or an 11 than you would be a 9 seed. Yeah. Or an 8 seed. I mean, that makes perfect sense. You don't have to play the number one seed. Yeah. Yeah. I saw someone saying that. It was novel and being like, wow, I've just found this crazy thing. You don't want to be on the 8-9 line. No, you don't. 8-9 line is terrible. But yeah, I pulled up the percentage. I mean, there have been times when, you know, the one seed loses in the second round. Now, you do want to be an eight seed. Like, that does happen. If you're in the final four. Max? If you want to be. It does happen. Where was that? I can't even say. Oh, right. That was sandwiched between two national championships. Wisconsin beat Villanova when they were one seed. And it was the year before they won a national championship. Yeah, no, I know. It was stupid of me to take a shot there. But I think eight seeds have, like, a great record in the final four. Once you get to the final four. What do you mean? Oh, just because of Villanova? Just because of weird luck over the years. Yeah, eight seeds, I think, have like a... Well, I think it's just because of Villanova in 1985, right? I think there have been a couple other eight seeds. I'm pretty sure UNC was an eight seed, right? To win it all? Butler 2011, Kentucky 2014, North Carolina 2022. But those teams didn't win it. Only one to win is Villanova in 85. Oh, to get to the Final Four. No, to play once you're in the Final Four. Yeah. The semifinal game. Butler, Kentucky, North Carolina. They all won as eight seeds in the Final Four. Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah. So there you go. So you just got to get there. You just got to survive. And then you're guaranteed to win as an eight seed. Yeah. Yeah. Sorry about Caleb Foster. Walking. Are you? I'm talking to you. Or do you, are you, do you accept my sorry? I don't, but I guess I will. Because it's not true. What do you mean? It's not true. What's not true? He's going to be out for. I'm sorry about Caleb Foster. He got hurt against UNC. You can't even say it with a straight face. What do you mean? It's not true. What do you mean, dude? Nolan Winter got hurt, and yeah, the Badgers did just go and win in Purdue, and that was cool. Without Nolan Winter, hopefully he gets better. But I want injuries off, dude. All right, then I accept it. I don't believe it. I want injuries off. I think Shire said he's going to be out for the entire conference tournament. At least, right? Yeah. So what do you mean it's not true? Big Cat apologize. No, he's saying my sorry is not true. I disagree with that, too. He said he was sorry. What are you, mind reader? I'm a face reader, and he's a hater. I mean, Duke is so good it doesn't matter. but I'm sorry. They got two guys in walking boots right now. Yeah. You won't put me on. Oh, I got a puncher. Oh my God. I got punched. Put your staffer. If you don't put your foot in me, my dad's a lawyer. I'll sue you. Can you arrest a ghost? I apologize. Duke looked great yesterday, even without Foster for most of the second half. Yeah. They were fucking awesome. Yeah. And it does, and the big story in terms of seating is UConn has probably lost their chance at a one seed. Marquette. Marquette. Hank called it. He did. You did call it. What if they're going to run? Credit to you. I love when you do this. When it's like, yeah, I watched. Eddie College basketball, you just throw a take out there. I don't even know why you said Marquette. Max was looking for value in it. Yeah. And then boom, right away, Hank's right. They beat UConn. I was laughed at. You guys laughed in my face. Yeah, we did. I did bet Marquette yesterday, so I at least came around before tip-off. I bet him against the spread. I didn't have the balls to do Moneyline. The Hurley double box, just both of them freaking out at the same time, was great. I love the angle that Dan Hurley took when he was getting in the ref's face. Fully leaning over. I think he was putting like 50% of his body weight via his forehead on the back of the ref's head. And then his explanation after the game was great. He's like, I was just screaming into the back of his head. I didn't know that we weren't allowed to do that. Yeah. I didn't see what the problem was there. He should have gone to Tech earlier. He got it with, like, less than a second left. Doesn't really help. He was doing the smooth criminal into the back of the ref's head. Yeah. I love it. I love it when the Hurley's get this fired up. Oh, man. So, yeah, that was the big shakeup, though, because now it feels like UConn's going to go to the two-seed line. Florida's going to be a one-seed. And Conference Championship Week. Just so fucking excited. You guys also see the celebration that is probably going to be replicated many, many times. the three-pointer and then shotgunning the three-pointer? Yeah. That was by a Kansas bench guy, Wilder Evers, who's a perfect name for a Kansas bench. I think he's played in six games this year, but he shotgunned his three-pointer. Is he from Kansas? I don't know. It's a great Kansas name. Wilder Evers. Yeah. That one's going to go. That one's going to go. Or Georgia. That could be a good Georgia name, too. Let's see. Wilder Evers. Let's see where he is from. Alabama. Birmingham, Alabama. Wilder Evers played six games this year. He's averaging 2.8 minutes. And I think that was his second bucket of the year. That's pretty cool. Yeah, he's got to be so sick to be like the 14th guy, the 15th guy on Kansas. How awesome would that be? Especially this time of year. Well, just think about it. We got a guy here we could talk to about. Yeah. Yeah. You're going to get to just watch a shitload of college basketball games for free. Not only that, but you like really good game. But if you go to like a Kansas or Kentucky or Duke or UNC, like there's a, as long as you're a decent hang, you're going to be best friends with an NBA superstar. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like he's for the rest of your life. You're going to be like, oh yeah, I got his name. Yeah. Like his number. We were at the, uh, at the final four. I think that was in Arizona a few years ago. And I'd taken a lot of mushrooms that night and, uh, I was, I was tripping pretty bad. We were out at the bar. And then all of a sudden, Greg Oden just pulled up to hang out with Titus. Yeah. And meeting Greg Oden for the first time when you're on Mushrooms is not a great, it's not a wonderful experience to tell you that. No. It's very, very concerning. By the way, I think Nebraska is now doing fins up. You can't do fins up. I mean. They are. They're doing fins up. You know, I know a couple of guys that went to Nebraska. I don't think it's beneath them to be copying. Yeah, that's true. This is very, this is, they're doing fins up for the free throws. Will Compton just hit up the student section I just invented this thing I got a great fucking idea It's called fins up We should try it It seems so sick I love Will What else we got for college basketball Max where are you at You feel good about Villanova going I mean they're fine I kind of want to bet If anyone wants to bet with me Make any noise Villanova to win the Big East tournament I'm done with troll bets Because people cry It'll make people cry Oh so it was a troll bet Oh yeah no shit No fucking shit, Hank. Well, it was a great bet that you just lost money on. Yeah. This is not a troll bet because Max and I talked ball a lot, and I was talking to him before, and I said, I feel like they have a great draw, and you can't take one of the favorites. So I was like, yeah, I might sprinkle a little Nova to win the Big East. Yeah, I like it. They can't beat St. John's. The only way they can win is if St. John's doesn't make. They can beat UConn. They can't beat St. John's. They just match up so poorly. What about if Rick Pitino doesn't do the white suit? They killed us twice this year. Yeah, that's a good counterpoint. That's a good counterpoint. I just want to – I wanted something to ride. I'm excited to see – I'm excited to see you back in the action, Max. Yeah, I'm excited. I'm excited for real Villanova basketball. I'm excited for the tournament. Real Nova basketball. And I was saying earlier that I'm now at a place, because Wisconsin winning on Saturday was awesome. I didn't really expect it because Nolan Winter is out, and he's very important. But Wisconsin, do you tell me they go to the Final Four because they just torched everyone from three, or they lose in the first round because they went four for 40? And I'd be like, yeah, I could believe either. But they're such a joy to watch. I don't care. Boyd is such an animal. He just took over the game late, and Blackwell as well. It's fun. It doesn't make sense that you've got Braden Smith and Lawyer Fletcher still playing basketball. Yeah. It doesn't make sense. But I love beating him on senior day. That was kind of nice. That was pretty nice. And this better be the last. We're not getting any more of them, right? I don't think so. They're not coming back next year. This was actually senior night. And Kauffman and Wren, too, pushing people into screens and then pretending he did nothing. Yeah. It's fun. Although, it did feel a little bit like Purdue has, I think they lost five home games this year. So, it really doesn't, like, you're like the last of the party. You're last of the gangbang. Yeah. We showed up. We're like Team 125 to the Bonnie Blue gangbang with Purdue this year. Everyone had their fun with Purdue at home. Doesn't matter. Had sex. Yeah. Did it. Everyone had a good time in Mac. Yeah. You can count. You check. That is a notch. That's Mark Davis's notch on your bedpost. Yeah. But yeah. I mean, listen. Wisconsin has three of the best wins of the year probably. So play with anyone. That was also funny watching Stephen Pearl. he basically is 16 and 15 Auburn. He's just like, we beat Florida. Yeah. I mean, which is true. He did. They did. They beat Florida. You just need to keep reminding people that you beat Florida. There was a time. Honestly, that's a hell of a point that you can make. You did beat Florida right before Florida figured it all out. You beat the shit. Well, no, you won by like two, but you beat Florida. You beat Florida. And then Florida was like, okay, fuck this. No, they won by nine. I take that back. Yeah, Florida has just demolished everyone since that point. So in watching Florida, you're right, Big Cat. They are dominant. They've been just crushing people. I love watching them play ball. Do you think that their style is tourney ready? Yeah. You do? Yeah, 100%. They don't have the guys that hit from the outside like they did last year. They've gotten significantly better as the months have gone along. They were hitting like 27% from three in November. they're now back up they're up to like 36 percent they got they had a transfer from the ivy league xavian lee who looked like he was overwhelmed early in the year now he's come back around boogie flan like they have guys all they have to do is hit i know it's not all yet but like 35 percent is not crazy if they hit 35 i think they will be in the final four i really do because their front line is that is that is that good well i mean they probably don't have to do it in the first right first round maybe not even the second round because they're so overwhelming okay any other any other stories do you want to talk a little golf the arnie burger that was sad sad it happens that's golf he led wire to wire and then lost he led wire to wire uh actually tied it up on 17 and then won in a playoff at the sixth major i don't know if it's the sixth major fifth major coming up this week players uh actually only 24 scott scotty didn't get his first win until he was 25 okay so he's next up yeah he went pro right after high school so he's been on tour for a while but that's it's impressive i like this lefty's on top i like the golf course uh i like the umbrellas everywhere i actually looked that up because i didn't understand like what did arnold palmer have to do with umbrellas why is that his logo do you know why i don't i know why he bought it or he just played it in like the 60s i was like i want to buy this oh you mean the piece of land yeah yeah oh it's a fucked up demented golf course that they just build holes around lakes and they're like try to cut these corners you can't um but i i was interested to see why why that's his like brand logo the umbrella so i looked it up and he was having a meeting with some executives back in like the 60s and they're trying to establish arnold palmer enterprises like what are you going to do in terms of golf course development your branding etc etc and uh they suggested like two golf clubs that crossed which i think is what bryson ended up using way later and then another one that was like a forest and he was like i don't like these so they said okay well let's take a break and when we come back we'll do some more brainstorming arnold palmer stood up and then he looked outside he saw a really hot chick getting out of the car and she had an umbrella and he's like fellas i've got it umbrellas we got to do umbrellas so he just got horny he got horny for a chick he happened to see and he's like we're doing umbrellas put that down and let's move on and it's been a hell of a logo it's a good logo you you recognize the logo so akshay next up don't feel bad for daniel burger nah i mean it's golf it's it's it's you got you gotta you gotta you gotta close it out yeah i love good guy i love the four aces uh them quizzing yeah that's me my who's back but yeah that i mean four aces they're all the way back okay we could save it okay we'd save it by the way i wanted to shout out one uh maybe our next goal key depending on how they do from high point you guys see this kid chase johnston he is shooting 48% from three this year. And so he's 64 for 132 from three. He's 0 for 4 in two-point field goals. I love it. He's taking four shots inside the arc. He's missed all of them. It doesn't feel right. How awesome is that guy? It doesn't feel right. I need him to just go nuclear. Yeah. His name translates to Bonnie Blue. I'm curious of how many of those were like threes where his foot was on the line. Yeah. I hope all of them. Or it would be even funnier if it was like a wide open layup and he couldn't hit it. He just can't. His depth perception is off. What's his free throw? Free throw percentage for this guy. Free throw. This is like our guy, Scott Morris from UNH, remember? Yeah. For the free throw contest when we looked up his stats and we're like, oh, he sucked at free throw. He's like, dude, they never let me go inside the arc. Yeah. His free throw percentage is 100% this year. Okay. And I don't know how many. Let me see. Let me see how many he's taken. He has taken, it looks like he is four for four on free throws. So he doesn't get to the line. No, because he's always out there. That's awesome. He's taken four free throws all year. And he plays like 10, 15 minutes a game, but still, that's so sick. This guy's life is pretty sweet. Yeah. Just go to practice, stay in the corner and just get wet, buddy. Yeah. Okay, let's do our Who's Back of the Week, and then we will get to a great interview with Alex Caruso in studio before we do Who's Back of the Week. State Farm in basketball. The great players don't just go it alone. They have teammates, coaches, and a solid support system behind them. It's kind of like insurance because, let's face it, a lot of us probably aren't great at doing that alone either, and that's where State Farm comes in. 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Whether you're hanging out at a friend's house, catching a game at the stadium or at the bar, or day drinking with friends, Twisted Tea is there to turn your day up a notch and make a good time a great time. grab a refreshing twisted tea today hank who's back of the week yeah but who's back the week is the four aces i love that didn't see that one coming live hong kong who are who are the four aces i got all the four aces so they got them all they won the the team tournament or the team event john rom won the individual event first time winning on live huge wow huge for him you can't overstate that uh that's a coincidence and the fight isn't it what he's like kind of been rumoring that he's unhappy he committed he recommitted to live and then one and then leave and then all of a sudden he's like oh yeah i won no it is it's interesting it's a coincidence it's not not no okay that's not a coincidence i don't understand that he was he's the best player on the tour but he hadn't won yet no and then he said he was upset and really didn't want to be here anymore and then he's like you know where wait he did not say that no well no we picked up on the body no he didn't know he did not say that he did not say that he chose to stay on highly speculate that he'd be leaving yeah and then he's like no actually i'm staying oh weird i just won my first one i don't i don't understand where you're going with that he's not you know exactly where i'm going but yeah he won it sounds like they're keeping him happy so you're saying all the other players the Saudis did in the event magnets in the balls maybe who knows maybe they had some rings in them yeah really sad the fanatics flag football thing isn't happening in Saudi Arabia anymore that's tough no no what happened it's in LA now yeah a lot of things a lot of stuff going on a lot of things happen we can get into it damn some yeah trouble in the skies over Kuwait tell that much right now friendly fire uh perhaps the 15 eagles now 104 and three oh hey we're having a perfect season like lenny dykstra's stock picks we're having the perfect season 104 and oh lifetime all goes away in the blink of an eye all right so live for not coincidence the john rom one definitely not a coincidence uh and not yeah now we're talking about it yep well no we were talking with four aces yeah but if someone else wins on the so who won like we would not have Who won the other? Who won the couple weeks ago? Anthony Kim. Oh, that's interesting, too. So then let's see. Who would the next interesting one be? Johnson's got to win. Johnson might win. Did you see Tiger's team get the hole-in-one at the TGL? The best golfer of all time? Yeah. And our friend Max Homo on that team? Yeah. You mean Max's team? Max's team? Yeah. Jupiter. Max is – he can get any team to the victory. Jupiter or GC. That's who I represent. Okay. Jupiter – never mind. I'm not going to say the name of the – The fan group that I was inventing. What week do you think? I decided not. The big red spots. That's what we call ourselves. What week do you think President Trump's going to win a live golf event? It's got to be coming, right? Well, I think iShowSpeed would probably get more than that. Yeah. That's fucked up. Did you see? Guy comes back, one of the greatest comeback shows of the year. No, I don't hate John Robin at all. You guys are on this show with Anthony Kim. You guys are like, oh, great story. This is awesome. I don't hate Jon Rahm at all. I'm just saying the timing is a little bit interesting that Liv is struggling. Who said he's struggling? Liv is buzzing. Everything is kind of – Dust is settled. Never been better. Brooks comes back. Our guys come home. And then, oh, now it's just the most remarkable. Oh, Jon Rahm, first ever win on Liv. Oh, Anthony Kim hasn't won in 50 years. He hasn't played. I think there should be asterisks on all these because they're playing 72 holes now. Like, that's not live golf. Live golf, when I used to enjoy the sport, it was 54 holes. And shorts, yeah. And shorts, yeah. Show me who's playing in live right now. I'll pick the next winner. Who was the winner after 54 holes? I'll pick the next winner. We're here to talk about the 4-8. Oh, Phil Mickelson's going to win one. No. He didn't even play this week. Yeah, I know. That's exactly. They're getting him ready to. Oh, Bryson. Yeah, Bryson's got to win one for sure. Phil's going to win. Phil's going to win one this year. What about, what's his name? Cam. Cam Smith. Cam Smith will probably win one because he's kind of the John Rom situation. Yeah. People thought he would leave. He's like, no, I'm going to stay. Yeah, if you just say you want to leave, they'll just give you a win. Yeah. That's Live Golf, baby. Crazy. He never said he wanted to leave. You know what? I'm thinking about leaving Live Golf. Yeah. I've heard the same thing. I've heard the same reports. I'm thinking about taking my talents. We're here to talk about the four aces. Okay. And the fact they won team championship first time in a few years. They're getting interviewed. Oh, that's interesting. The four aces. First time. the four aces that get talked about an insane amount on the number one sports podcast. They also won? Yeah. Oh, that's interesting. Huh. The script writers are going crazy this year. So who are the current four aces again? It's Dustin Johnson. Yeah. Anthony Kim. Uh-huh. And the Twin Toms. Okay. Wow. Easy to remember. Hey, who are the Twin Toms? Thomas Peters, Thomas Dietry. Okay. Twin Toms. The Twin Tommers. but after the round after the win they're doing a celebratory press conference I'm assuming it was the AWL reporter asked Dustin Johnson first time he won since like 2023 can you name the four aces on that team can we just play the clip Dustin Johnson had no idea he's like ah which was the most relatable I woke up and saw that clip and I've never related more to a golfer in my life than DJ It is interesting to you. Being like, ah, Patrick Reed. Shout out to him. None of this is interesting to you. No. I think you're giving yourself too much credit. No, we're giving you too much credit. You. You're the guy. You're the four aces guy. You're the four aces guy. You're the live golf guy. What percentage of four aces discussion do you think has been brought to the table by myself or Big Cat in the history of this show? Most of it. Nah. That's just. We just ask you who's on the four aces. Yeah. Well, you're already talking about it. You bring up the live topic. you bring up the four aces and then we ask a very simple question yeah which is who are the guys on this team and you're probably like one for uh well before the twin tommers era i would say you're probably like one for 30 and then and then knowing all that history live golf and the john rom history live golf was like let's have john rom win and also the four aces and then a question about who are the four aces that last one huh and then also i think that live golf engineered two guys being named Tom. To be honest, Hank only had to remember three years. Huh. Whatever. Four A's is on top. It was such a funny clip. It was such a funny clip because it really was just our podcast. Can you play it? The audio? Pete Reed was one of them. So DJ, you may not even remember who you won with in 2023. It's changed so much. Who was it? Come on. In 2023, P. Reed was one of them. Sorry to see him go. Yeah, I've known that. Two more. Come on. Yeah, so that's just Hank. Hank Caven. And a lefty golfer won PGA Tours. Huge. Yeah. Is that a coincidence, too? No. No. Okay. No. Does anybody – we don't talk about lefty golfers on this show. Got it. We're talking about the lift. There's a good video out, though, with lefty Lockwood. Yeah. Are people being nice in the comment section? I think so. I think it's fair. Fair half mean, half somewhat nice. That's left and right. Yeah. Okay. It's my who's back. PFT. You're who's back. My who's back of the week is Logan. Oh, yeah. That's nice. People are being nice. The camera work is like the Blair Witch Project. Who did that? Oh, nice. People are being mean to me. Has Max ever operated a camera before? Oh, is Max? It felt like he was live streaming an earthquake. Is Max also going left-handed for this video? I am left-handed. Kind of. We got some interesting half lefties. People are right. Hank Swing does look better lefty. He's not a better golfer yet left-handed, but he will be a better golfer one day. Yeah. And then there's a lot of stuff because I am supporting my boy Hank Lockwood in his journey to being a left-handed golfer. There's a lot of really nice stuff that I want to say about Hank that I'm not allowed to say about Hank because he got very upset at me for saying nice things about him in this video. And he had them edited out, and they were very nice things. Is that true? I was being nice. We had a, I mean, there's a pretty fine line. We've done this show for 10 years where it's like when we say things before we say them, like, hey, this is off the record like not for content. Yeah. That's a preface. Yeah. And then PFT broke that. I was going through the video is literally the start of the video. But it was a very nice thing, right? But like it's not, I wouldn't have said, I would not have said, hey, let's not say this on air. This is not for content. And have you agree if I thought you were going to say it. For the record, I said it because I knew you were going to see it. Right. And then you were going to be like, I specifically told you not to say it. Yeah. Okay. My who's back in the week is Logan Paul backing out of stuff. Yeah. He's backing out of this fight against Le'Veon Bell. because he's saying that WWE has a problem with him getting into celebrity boxing matches. I think this is still part of the big work that he's putting on. And WWE is going to be like, yes, you certainly can do this. Let's also get him involved in the wrestling storyline. It did seem a little. Everything is a work. Everything in the news with if your last name is Paul, even the Tom Brady stuff, like when Tom Brady was talking to Logan Paul we all being worked all the time So anything that comes out from a Paul brother if he talking about baseball cards he captured Pokemon He captured the internet for a few days and then weirdly got a call when he was live on air from Triple H being like, he can't do it. Yeah, we're all being worked all the time. So he's backing out of this, but then he's going to back out of backing out on this. And then the fight's going to happen. The fight's going to suck. And he's probably going to win the fight. And then he's going to be like, see, I beat a real boxer. and then rinse and repeat six months from now. Yep. Yep. So we can just fast forward. The other who's back of the week is baseball. Oh, yeah. That was mine. Yeah. World baseball classic. Do yours. Awesome. Yeah. Schwarber hitting a home run got me in my feels. Like, this actually rocks. And then, like, Dominican. I think it was Puerto Rico, too. Like, the dances and just the fans going nuts. The crowds in Japan. Also, I don't understand why Chinese Taipei just has the best. Taiwan. Oh, yeah. Sorry. Taiwan has the best Little League team every year, and then their pros just suck. Yeah. I don't get that. It is interesting. But, yeah, this moment, there's just been – what was that? That was the Dominican and Nicaragua game. It's been awesome. And they also did the schedule crack. I looked ahead. The semifinals and finals are on the Monday and Tuesday before March Madness begins. Yeah. Which is perfect. Which is great. What? What, Matt? It's beautiful. Beautiful. You rarely see it in sports where they actually time it up well, that it goes selection Sunday, semis, final, March. Yes. Because you need something those two days to get you to March Madness. Perfect. It's great having that there. Would you like it better if the all-star break was a little bit longer and this happened in the middle of the summertime? Yes. I think that would be a better schedule. Just because guys would be better, too. Yeah. Well, that's what they need to do for the Olympics. And is Scoobal coming back? I saw that. He went, he pitched his inning or two, and then he was like, I had feelings that I didn't know I had about the country. Yeah. And he's now trying to talk Scott Boris and the Tigers into letting him pitch more, which would be awesome. We all love the World Baseball Classic until somebody gets hurt, and then people turn on it. Yeah. And then it's like, why are we doing this? Scoobal said, I didn't expect these type of emotions to run through my brain or my thoughts to differ. I was committed to making a start and getting back to camp. Things have changed. Obviously, I'm going to have some conversation to try to figure out a plan. Love that. Need him. I want to win this thing. I want to win this thing. I would like to win it, but it's also good to have Aaron Judge as a scapegoat in case we lose. It's all his fault. Yep. And just prepare yourself. Like, if we do win, don't let that deceive you into thinking that Aaron Judge, he has not earned his pinstripes from this. He's earned stripes from the horizontal stripes. Red and white stripes is what he will earn. Yes. But not the pinstripes. Yeah, the World Baseball Classic rocks. Yeah. Big fan. I mean, the walk-offs, it all comes down to the players caring about it. Yeah. And if the players care about it, then I care about it. Yeah, absolutely. And a lot, I mean, the guys who are not MLB players playing for their country care a lot. Yeah. That's where it gets, like, very exciting. Okay, Zach, you're who's back. By the way, Zach, how'd it go? How'd it go on the internet on Friday? I signed off for a little bit. I signed back on, though, today. And? We're back online. People have different opinions on all sorts of stuff. We're talking fame, infamy. It was a good weekend on the internet. A lot of guys had a lot of opinions, and I respect all those opinions. That's what the internet's all about. Were there some hurtful tweets? Yeah, there's some words regularly used. It felt like copy and pasted. A lot of guys were saying the same thing, and I'm not going to say what they were saying. I retweeted this one from Talia B, who's a sports reporter for Notre Dame. She said, just listen to the most popular sports podcast in the U.S. for the first time. And they spent a solid 20 minutes arguing about whether I show speed or Trump is more famous. That wasn't her first time. Also, not your first time. And second of all, we didn't argue. Zach tried to argue. We said what the facts are. Yeah, we just established a baseline of what I think any independent journalist such as yourself would understand as being our responsibility as journalists to just counter his claims with facts. I think if Zach and her- Talia, get ready for Mount Rushmore season. Had like a face-to-face at like dinner or something. He could convince her. Oh, yeah. You should go on a date with her. Sometimes you got to embrace debate. Would you be open to a date with Talia? If Talia was open. Let's start with a conversation. Conversation. Let's have a debate. Yeah, we're not calling her a date. It sounded like she, I'm just picking up the vibes. It sounded like she wanted to continue the debate. She liked it so much. I'm always trying to embrace debate for sure. I think she might be intimidated by how intelligent you are. Yeah. The integrity of opposing viewpoints is always fun. Yeah. That's the other part about Zach. I think part of the reason why it went so long is because Zach is the nicest person in the world to debate with. Yeah. He doesn't, nothing gets mean. He just keeps saying like, we all have differing viewpoints. But he's also tenacious. is the thing. Sometimes we're not going to be able to convince each other of the other side. Right. It's worth letting each other out, you know what I mean? Which is kind of bullshit what he's doing because he's basically making us feel like he's gaslighting us to be like, hey, it's an even debate. It's not. Yeah. Zach, let me ask you this. Globally, I don't know. If iShowSpeed had a sports roundtable where he tried to fix college sports, what kind of names do you think he could get to show up for that? Ronaldo? Ronaldo. Yeah. Messi. Yeah, so like the biggest name in the world. Kevin Durant. KD. Yeah. They spent a good amount of time together. Yeah. That was a good interview as well, if you guys want to check that out. Yeah, he'd have some guys. I don't know if the table would be round. It might be square. Big three in speed. And Tom Brady? Yeah. So it sounds like, yeah. I mean, Zach might be winning me over. Sunni League. I'm looking forward to seeing what the executive order to fix sports is going to actually say. That's going to be a good one. Yeah. I feel like it might be a lot of pages, though. Might be a lot of pages. Zach, you need that when it comes out? Yeah, someone's going to have to put it in a tweet for us. I can do spark notes maybe kind of like some heavy hitting bullet points when that comes out I would like you to distill it I'm not going to read it I'm not going to read any articles about it I want you to tell us how college sports will be fixed okay I can do that for you what do you got for Who's Back my Who's Back of the Week is also a little bit World Baseball Classic adjacent more so for the attendees because have you guys seen the Tokyo Dome sandwich the ice cream sandwich Yes. How are they wrapping the cone around the ice cream 100%? That's a question for you, pal. Is it injected, you think? No, that's a question that you're going to have to figure out because I want one and you got to get it. You see how the bite too, you go all the way through. So the middle is not the toughest ice cream. Wait, can you describe this for the listeners and myself? Look at it, Hank. It's an uncrustable with a cone on the outside and ice cream on the inside. It's almost like if a Klondike bar swapped the chocolate for a cone. Yeah. It's perfect. So get in the lab. Yeah, we'll get in. You can buy a waffle iron, like whatever you need. Okay, we'll do. Yeah, we'll get scientific. Yeah, yeah. We'll get tasty. Well, yeah. I mean, I assume you're going to have to have some type of. I think you need to put that in the oven. I think you're going to have to. No, I think he's going to have to make. With melt, right? Yeah, that'd melt. I think you're going to have to make custom sandwich, like waffle iron. That's the only way to do it, right? I think we're going to have to build a mold, yeah. Right. I'm not sure how to go about that, but we'll find out for you. No, but that's not... What are you looking at? I can't... He's going to have to build a mold. It's not soft serve, though. But how do you get the bread around the ice cream? That's what we're trying to figure out. I know. It looks like it's two halves. But it doesn't look... Because you can see them coming apart a little bit at the seam. Oh, chew your cone, though, right? Yeah, there's a seam. Yeah. There's a seam. Get to work. That does seem to be like a softer exterior, right? I'm going to give you... Until the end of the World Baseball Classic? I was going to say next Monday. Yeah, okay. End of the World Baseball Classic. That's next Tuesday. Yes, sir. We can do that. I want it. I want it. I want a prototype, but I don't want it to be the first. I want it like, I want a good one. I want it. Bad. We'll get the best guys on the case. That's you. Jacob, Owen, myself. Yeah. Three ice cream guys. See, Talia, this is what you're signing up for. This guy, he's a problem solver. Oh, that looks so good. So good. So good. Oh, my God. That looks good. Okay. Let's get to our interview with Alex Caruso. Before we get to Alex Caruso, he's brought to you by our great friends at McDonald's. The new Big Arches here. I've got it right in front of me. It's beautiful. It's the most McDonald's McDonald's burger yet. It's two quarter pound patties, three slices of cheese, tangy Big Arch sauce, lettuce, pickles, crispy, and slivered onions, and a poppy and sesame seed bun. 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And now here's Alex Caruso. okay we now welcome on a very very very very very special guest recurring guest one and a half time nba champion alex caruso in studio and i gotta ask uh you've won one and a half nba titles but would you say that making the cover of part of my book the 10 year anniversary of part of my take that's coming out in august is that a higher is this the official announcement for that yeah you're on it you're on the back that's amazing wow um oh back cover so i mean so we'll put it cover was we'll put it second second between the two championships i just double checked and you're on it zach are you wearing it on your shirt right now he's not he doesn't have the shirt on anymore don't have the shirt but you are officially on the cover i'll send you the pick you you are on the cover i think it's you in in thunder uh gear we would never put you in lakers gear of course not you're on the cover so that's pretty cool you're right next to adam morrison oh yeah that's like almost a mountain rush for a white guy basketball i was gonna say it actually was it was tough to make the cover because like you know we got a lot of white guys so we're like oh shit we got to make a cut somewhere but you're on there so congratulations thank you thank you that's probably the made the biggest announcement of 2026 for me so far yeah easily yeah easily so how has this year been i feel like this has been uh a pretty good six months for you yeah i mean honestly it's it's we're winning basketball games winning games when you're professional athlete makes life a lot easier yeah you do that it's like just you know get stay healthy get to also break play some golf and now it's time to try and like ramp it up but are you guys bad for basketball bad at like the thunder yeah are you bad for basketball for the sport too good no no no no no we we went to seven games twice last year so it's not like you know we didn't 2000 Lakers won in 17 games. The Warriors won in whatever. We're just the right amount of good for basketball. Yeah. But that was the worst team that you're going to have in this dynasty. Yeah. We talked about that last time, didn't we? I have a statement I would like to make that I think is a compliment, but you can tell me if this is not a compliment. No, no. I think it is. Okay. I think you have entered into all-time role player level. That's a good conversation to have. Is that a good – that's a compliment, right? It's a major compliment, yes. And I mean this in the fact that you can even see it in this year's Thunder team. You mean just basketball or like all of – Maybe everything. You can make your case for everything. But for basketball, I think that you are in that level now where you're such a weapon and the way you're used to create energy, turnovers, chaos, hit threes. That Nuggets game a couple nights ago, which I want to talk about the Jokic fight, I know you would have fucked him up if you weren't on the court, right? No, I wasn't. Yeah, you would have fucked him up. We know that for a fact. Save your money. Don't run on the court. The way you're able to change a game, and tell me if this is wrong, but I think my theory is you've been used this year. I was looking at your minutes, and it was somewhere like 18, 19 minutes a game, and then if it's a big game, it's like 23, 24 minutes. You're the secret weapon for the Thunder. You're giving away the game plan now. Okay, well, I'm just saying. So we need to calm down so we talk about – No, I mean that's a great conversation to have. For basketball, for sure, I think I can sneak my way into a Mount Rushmore now. Like a couple of championships and a couple of personal accolades, I think that gets you onto the role player conversation. For all of sports, that's tough because – Yeah. There's a lot of sports. There's a lot of sports out there. I mean, you're trying to think just off the top of my head. We talk about the best role players in basketball history. I don't know if I would consider a guy like Dennis Rodman to be a role player because he's too good at what he does, really, at his one specialty. He's like a specialist. I would say he is, but I think anybody who's not a 30-point-a-game score, like the 20 to 30, takes most of the shots is pretty much a role player. I mean, Robert Ori would be like the top of the list. Robert Ori is the first one that came to mind. Right. Just because of clutchness. Steve Kerr. Yeah. With the Spurs and the Bulls. Yeah. Steve Kerr is a good shout, too. Yeah. You basically have to look at the teams that have won. Right. You know, like Derrick Fisher might be over Steve Kerr for me. And like the teams that have won and knowing that if you take that guy off the team, he's not the best player on the team. But if you take that guy off the team, it actually like significantly hurts them. Yeah. And I think that's where you're at with the Thunder. So the question, though, is I have the sneaking suspicion that you've been used as a secret weapon. Do you, like, does Coach tell you before a game? 10 years in, secret weapon. Yeah, but no, does Coach tell you before a game, hey, this is going to be like a playoff atmosphere? Because there are certain games. The Nuggets game is a specific one where it's like Nuggets Thunder, Friday night, big game atmosphere. TV game. And he whispers in your ear, he's like, hey, this is like a playoff game. And then a light bulb goes off. And you're like, all right, I got it. Get ready. Yeah, I'm going to fuck this up. No, I mean, you know certain matchups are going to be elevated just based off of, you know, competition and talent. Like, anytime you play somebody that's, like, a top six team in the West, it's, like, it's going to be a brawl. Like, show up, be ready, and then TV game. But that one the other night had, like, a special feeling around it. And, like, lead up to the game, it felt like a kind of like a mini playoff game. And K. Rich, Kenrich Williams told, like, we were on the end of the bench before tip. and he like, to me it hadn't really clicked. I was just going through my routine of what I do before the game, handshake, sit down. And he goes, it kind of feels like a playoff game here. And I look around and I was like, you're kind of right. And you don't recognize it until we played Dallas last night and not even half their team, 75% of their team isn't playing. Right. And the atmosphere is completely different. You're like, oh, yeah, that was kind of, that makes it stand out even more. but yeah I Mark will tell me when I'm going to go in the game after we drop our first play and I go to like the scores table to do handshakes with everybody he'll look at me and tell me when I'm going to go in and he's like secret and depending on what time in the first quarter I'm going to go in that's how I know alright tonight's going to be you know a couple more minutes versus the 18 19 and that game specifically like SGA is on a minutes restriction so then you have to close the game yeah I don't think we knew that I I didn't know that. We go to – I missed a shot to win the game in regulation, and Chet gets it and misses it, and we go to the bench. And in my head, I'm just like, all right, we're going to go win the game, whatever, this is – we're going to have momentum. We got Shea. It's going to be fine. And then Mark comes to the bench, and he's like – he's done. He's done. He's like, you're in. He's like, J-Will, you're in. I think it was – I, Joe, came in for us too. and we're just like, oh, okay, cool. He's done. Yeah. It was a weird feeling, though, because we've been playing without him for the last month and a half, however long it's been. We had this weird confidence. We're like, oh, we're going to go win the game now. Right. And then we scored the first seven points of overtime just running. Yeah. It was like that's exactly how this team has played. Didn't cover the spread, but that's neither here nor there. The other question off of the game, how are you so good at forcing turnovers on transition? Because I think that's a superpower you have. Yeah. that I don't think there's anyone who's doing it at your level where if a team has a transition and they're making an extra pass or whatever it may be, you just always are in the right spot. I think it happened twice in that game late where you, like, fucked them up and they looked like they were going to get an easy bucket and then your hands are everywhere. And it's like, oh, nope, Caruso did it again. Yeah, I don't know where, you know, like that. I don't know if that's like, it's not a skill that you like go in the summer and like work on. Like, obviously, some of that is, like, God-given talent where I'm just, like, able to process and anticipate stuff. Also, just, like, knowing personnel, knowing who guys are. Like, one of them, Christian Brown, was going to go up for layup. Like, I knew pretty much he was going to either try and use his right hand or, like, load up big to go for a dunk. So, it was, like, just time it and gamble and go for the steel jets there. If you miss it, he'll probably block it. Is that film work? Yes. I mean, some of that, like knowing tendencies and knowing who players are and what they like to do. Like the second one with Hardaway where he jumped in the air. I was like, I'm just going to kind of see if he'll go finish the layup and just go play the guy in the pass. And then I saw Christian Brown's face light up. So I was like, surely the ball is there. You just throw your hand up. And he threw it to my hand. Yeah. Everyone's making this deal. I made a great play. It's like I put my hand up. No, but that's interesting. It's almost like a defensive back in football. Yeah, no, it is. Reading the other person's body language. It is, and it's like spatial awareness, anticipation of stuff. You know, some of it is I love soccer. Like I watched Premier League for like 15 years now, and there's a lot of that like element of matching up man-to-man versus ball movement and like finding space and like where's the danger going to be. So maybe some of that, playing a lot of FIFA, you know. Who's your team? Man City. Okay, all right. I got a lot of heat for that, but I've been watching them since like 20. Since they won like five in a row. Four. Are there other guys in the NBA that watch a lot of EPL? Yeah, there are. I think I know Larry Nance and TJ McConnell are both leads guys, but I think they have ownership in the team. Makes sense, yeah. That helps push them towards that. I know some guys are just like most of the big teams. I don't know anybody that has like a West Ham or Wolverhampton. It's all like United, Chelsea, Arsenal. Arsenal. Yeah. Have you seen the draw Arsenal got? Yeah, of course. It was a crazy draw. They're playing against some team in Norway that doesn't. Well, the team in Norway beat City 2-1 on the road in one of the Champions League matchups. We did have a couple guys because we were suspended. That was when all our center backs were hurt, too. But, yeah, it's looking favorable. They say the last winner from the last 12 years from Champs League, I think, is on the left side. Yeah. They just get a cakewalk. It's on the left side. It's easy. Yeah, it's like City and Madrid, like Real, they're going to play each other, and the winner's going to play Bayern Munich. Battle-tested, yeah. Yeah. Do you guys have a Spurs problem? A Spurs problem? Yeah, does Oklahoma City have a Spurs problem? Ooh. There aren't Spurs in Oklahoma City. It's like these little tumbleweed things. I'm just saying, I'm looking at the NBA Cup. Yeah, no. Yeah, we probably should have won that game. I think we played better in the NBA Cup. Dude, we can't win the Cup. I'm so annoyed because we go to Vegas two years in a row, and I really want to, one, you get paid. That's cool. But two, there's a trophy, and there's some pride to it. And then there was that clip of me bitching in the hallway going back to the locker room, and then everybody started calling me a sore loser. Yeah, the NBA Cup. Nobody likes losing. I'm supposed to be happy that we just lost. I like that, though, because it's the Cup. Like the cup means – did you notice that like other teams play a little harder? We talked about like as a team like we want to win everything. Like that's like the mindset. So like if we're playing in the cup games, like we want to go and win the cup. And we just – for whatever reason, maybe like the atmosphere in Vegas just like kind of throws it off because it's pretty neutral. And they dim the lights like Staples Center. And it's not like – I think this is my hot take of the day. I think it would be much better if they just did it like playoff series where they just had whatever the tiebreakers are and just have the better, like whatever team is ranked higher, post the game all the way, even through the championship game. Yeah, I like that. Maybe the championship you do neutral site, like how the- Super Bowl? Yeah. Yeah, like Super Bowl or like the Premier League, like the FA Cup and all that. They go to Wembley, like maybe the last game you do a neutral site. But like leading up to it, like the best games in the cup are the games that lead up to Vegas. Yeah. After pool play, the first couple bracket play games, Like, those are the best ones. Do the crazy courts ever fuck you up? No, I kind of like them. Okay. I haven't played on one that I think was terrible. Like, I think probably the worst one was maybe the one here in Chicago the first year when it was just like blood red. Yeah. But even then, it was like kind of cool. Yeah, kind of cool for a one-off. So if you don't win an NBA cup in your career, we will. I can't be on the role player. Yeah, no, we will ding you for that. Dude, could never get it done. Rightfully so. Could never get it done in mid-December. Yeah. The big one. That's right. The big one. Say what you want about Alex Caruso, but he choked away multiple NBA cups. Do you know how much money you've made in the NBA? It's pretty awesome. Right now? Yeah, or like for the rest of your career, if you play out your contract. I've made guaranteed money. I made like five and a half and then like 39. So we'll just run out to 40 and then 80. So like 115. Yeah, you'd be 123. Oh, nice. That's pretty sick. That's awesome. That's pretty sick, yeah. I mean, that and I got to win a couple things. Now we're talking about role player Mount Rushmore. Yeah. That's not even a question. It was just more like that was sick. Yeah, no, I know that wasn't a question. We did that with Blake Bortles once, and he was just like, oh, fuck. That's so sick. But he's much more nonchalant. He had no idea. He was just like, oh, I made 50 mil. That's so awesome. That's pretty cool. You ever just look at your bank account, and you're like, oh, fuck yeah. Yeah. That's pretty cool. Honestly, no, because I have a guy for that. that is much smarter than me yeah let him handle that yeah yeah um have you become a better basketball player since you got married yeah i mean i have i think i've gotten better since august love that yeah shout out to that what have you gotten better at um i'm a lot more patient on the court you know a lot more understanding yeah uh more team oriented yeah you know yeah one lessons off the court that translates yeah like you'll do the dirty work great at home lessons that i carry over yeah you take out the trash on the court it's like the dirty work also do that i was doing that before yeah i was married anyway so yeah role player uh every husband's a role player yeah this is a dumb question but we're getting up to march madness um does it suck not march yeah it's this is march does it suck not be able to watch all march madness yeah honestly those days those days like because it's a it's the first weekend at least yeah like first weekend's the big one That's the one where you're like 8 a.m. to... Yeah, and you have to work. Yeah, depending on the schedule. I haven't even looked. This is why I would never be in the NBA. I would never give up watching Mars Madness. Wait, it's probably two weeks away? Yes, two weeks away. I'll look, but I don't know what our schedule is. I think we might be on the road. I'm going to tell you right now. I'm going to bum you out. Same with football, too. You can't watch football sometimes. Yeah, Sundays are tough when you're traveling. Dude, this NBA thing, that's not worth $123 million. Yeah, I don't know. I'm telling you, man. You did watch baseball because I saw you tweeted out. I remember it was like game seven. You tweeted out, imagine not liking sports. Yeah, dude. Imagine. And then LeBron, I think he replied. I think he was like, yeah, that would suck, dude. Yeah. Like you guys still keep in touch? That was probably the last time before I saw him this year. That was about it. Yeah, that we talked. He's like, I love sports too, man. I saw that he's getting really into YouTube golf recently. Yeah, dude. Golf in general, but YouTube golf for sure. Yeah, there was a very funny video of him before the game before the game against the Warriors. He was on the course at Olympic. Have you seen that yet? No. Can we bring that video up of LeBron golfing before the game against the Warriors? By the way. Somebody snuck a phone onto the course and took a very mean long-distance shot of him hitting like a three-wood off the deck. Does it not go well? It's not a great look. I mean, LeBron has to realize this is the game that you get into with YouTube golf. Yeah, for sure. It's everything. I mean, golf in general. Yeah, people love to laugh at your misfortune. At your demise, yeah. By the way, you're good for the schedule. You have a game on Wednesday of opening round, and then you have a game, no game Thursday, Friday, game Saturday, no game Sunday. That's big time. And the game Saturday is the Wizards at 4 o'clock. So that doesn't really count. Yeah. 4 o'clock. You guys should do it with your eyes closed probably. Yeah, I'm going to get the morning slate. Yeah. That's the best I've had. Yeah. That's the best. You're going to get to do it. All right. Maybe the 123 makes sense. It's like I'm not going anywhere in New York. Here's LeBron. Let's get your feedback on LeBron's swing here. Wait. You got to go out there with him. You got to fix him up. I played Olympic Club last year. Caught that little fat. Yeah, a little over the top, a little fat. Didn't move the body very much. Classic mistakes. What is... Actually, he rotated pretty well. For a big man, he does, yeah. I mean, given one of the best athletes to ever play sports that much credit, he should be doing that. He's pretty good at sports overall. What's your handicap right now? right now is probably not a true tell but i got down to like a two last summer damn yeah i played over all-star break and i played better than i expected like i i played we went to scottsdale so we i've been to scottsdale with my boys because we go play tpc because they have all the stuff it's a week after the tournament yeah so they got all the the stuff still up and then we go out there and play um grass clippings actually this par three course the little night par three course that place is amazing um and then silver leaf club try to get out there and play that's awesome yeah we always laugh at people that are like seeing cancun loser like the fans that talk shit yeah yeah players are like ah cancun have fun idiot you lost yeah okay yeah i probably will i'm i'm in the prime of my life i have millions of dollars i'm gonna go to cancun and have maybe the best week of my life i'm going to very much enjoy it so you guys missed out on on some of your summer that's that's kind of like an under discussed thing in the nba is like the better you are as a team the longer your season becomes yeah less of an offseason you just You can't make sure you win, you know? Because, like, so when I saw you all out at Tahoe, right? Yeah. That's, like, two weeks after the championship, two and a half weeks after we won. And I think it was after the Wednesday or Thursday practice round that I played with some of the, you know, the people who pay for whatever, the scramble teams. My dad looks at me because there's so many people out there, right? There's so many fans. And they're like, oh, congrats. Like, you won a championship. Great season. I was like, he said, imagine if you would have lost and had to go in there. And everybody would have just been like, dude, tough one. Great season, but maybe you'll get them next year. And so now I'm just reliving this. Like two weeks, I probably would have started to slowly get over it. That could have been a much, much worse two and a half, three months if we would have lost. Yeah. What was crazy about that tournament was Charles Barkley kind of got good at golf again. Yeah. You remember that? Yeah. Yeah. He hold out for Eagles. Something happened. Yeah. Where he just got good. But the first day, I think he was top 25. Really rooted him, to be honest, to overshadow my first day, which was just phenomenal. What did you shoot? I shot 74. It was like the best round I've ever shot in my life. Yeah, nobody talked about that. And it was ball and hole. And they quickly breezed over it because the guy who didn't know how to play golf all of a sudden shot 85 and holed out from the fairway. We got to talk about it more. Yeah, it was amazing. People were still talking about that Alex Grusso 74. You know what's hilarious about that, too, is I played so well the first day, And then the second day I get out and I'm playing with Adam Thielen and Taylor Twellman. And they both played very well. Yeah, Taylor was in it. He's a really good player apparently. Yeah. They were striping all day. But I get up there on the first tee box after going tied career best low round in tournament plays. I count that as the best round of golf I've ever played. I just cold top it on the first tee box in front of 400 people. luckily i did just like i shook it off hit one got on the green made the bogey putt and got out of there with like zero points so it's a little bit of confidence booster but the the topping it in front of you know a couple hundred people after they do the whole intro thing i don't know how you guys do it like it's tough out there i'm not gonna lie it's got to be more nerve-wracking than playing an nba 100 yeah 100 up until you made i made my putt i made par on hole two every day i made like a three footer on on two that was the putt both days that like kind of calmed me down but before that the first seven six seven shots that i took it was like full like arms not connected to the body the boys did six seven in the booth yeah that's a tough look dude it's it's it doesn't even compare to anything i've ever done sports wise quick break from alex caruso to talk to you about Lucy. 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I will get too excited, too much adrenaline going through me. Before Game 7, Denver, Game 7, and the finals, obviously. like those two games like i have a pretty strict standard routine that like i do before all the games where it's like come home nap eat whatever i couldn't really nap like i took like a 20-minute nap and i was just like i'm not gonna be able to sleep yeah i'm just gonna get up would you uh if you could go back game seven nba finals would you and you could make it so that tyrese halliburton doesn't get hurt would you do that sure wow that's a you're incredible guy yeah you're an incredible guy you want to beat the best two points two point one i think we would have won regardless Yeah, but still. Two, he doesn't tear his Achilles. Yeah, I know. You're an incredible guy. That's an incredible move. You would want that because now the Pacers are going to get a great draft pick and they're going to be the best team ever. And then they'll come and kick your ass later because he got hurt in Game 7. I was going to make a joke. I was going to be like, it's the best tanking strategy ever. But that's pretty detrimental to your all-invier player. For your best player to tear his Achilles. That part sucks. Yeah, the biggest mind fuck ever. They're talking through that in the war room as an organization. I don't know. We could just not win games or have our best player be out for a whole year. Yeah. How weird is it playing against tanking teams? Like, can you feel the vibe? Are they – it's just got to be – there's been a lot of discussion about the NBA, the fact that too many teams are tanking right now. Yeah, trying to fix that. But when you're actually playing a tanking team, I'd imagine it's a little harder to get up for a team that's actively not trying to win games. Yeah. I mean, at that point, it just becomes like you got to find different things to play for. You know, like you're like. Do you play for us? I can. Do that on the Wizards game. Okay, I'll do that. I'll do that for the Wizards game. Play specifically for us. I would like to see two bounce pass assists from you. Okay. That's how you'll know. That's how I know, yeah. And I'll point to the camera. We actually will be watching March Madness, so we won't even know. Yeah, sure. It would be nice to play for us. We'll get the clip and I'll send it to you. It's like little Timmy in the hospital, Babe Ruth, hitting two home runs for him. It's like two fundamentally sound, like three-quarters bounce passes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Left foot forward. Yeah, they interview you after. It's like you put in a solid, like, eight, four, and four. You're like, yeah, I did that for the PMT guys. I'll do that for sure. That's easy. That's an easy one. I mean, is there a way to prevent tanking? I don't think that there is. That's the thing. It's like we can have this discussion and try to figure out how to have the most competitive games that we can get. But the reality is the way that the league is set up, you kind of have to tank if you want to get good. Yeah, I mean, that's the big issue is, like, it's proven to be successful. And, like, in some instances, like, some teams just can't get it right, and they're just, like, forever, you know. We have to hit the picks. So, like, if you have a first overall pick. Yeah, that's the big thing. That's where teams are still messing it up is, like, they're not drafting well. And it's, like, if you're going to, like, you just get stuck in, you know, the revolution if you don't draft well and then you try to lose again and then you don't draft. Like, that's part of it for us is, like, we've had great picks. Some of our guys on our team, like A.J. Mitchell, Jalen Williams, Aaron Wiggins, obviously we traded for Shea, me, Hart. There's Isaiah Joe. We've found different ways to build a team that's really good, and it hasn't just been lose a shit ton of games and then have a top three pick for five years in a row. Yeah. I don't know how you fix it. like every every one of these like you know you've seen like a couple of different um examples or options that people have brought up of like what to do it's like there's always a flaw in one yeah yeah there's always a loophole that someone will yeah there's always one that's like it's like that that doesn't it looks good on paper until you like really like think it through and talk about it and like put it into like real world perspective i i don't know how you do that and you also don't want to have a situation where you you make it so bad teams can just never get good again yeah i mean well that's the that's the fine line is like making it competitive and even for like you know you want small market teams to be able to like have good players and keep good players but you don't want to make it to where you know there's a competitive advantage too much one way for for the draft like it's it's like i said it's just it's a difficult thing to do yeah yeah i get a dumb question for you do they give you different thickness of headbands or do you just have the extra thick ones no no no it's just the same ones the same ones those there's two different ones there's like a there's like a spandex like you know like a uh was it polyester yeah and then there's like the the cotton almost like it's like elastic cotton like it's got some stretch to it that's the one i have okay people people think that it's like a fashion statement i sweat a lot like the other night they uh heart after the denver game took my uh heart and stein I took my headband off and put it on our team TV guy, Nick Gallo. And I'm looking at him. And as soon as he took it off and goes towards him, I'm like, dude, I was like, don't put that on him. You don't want to. I just played a whole second half in overtime with that. I played 28 minutes. I switched at halftime. I switched at halftime. Oh, you switched at halftime? It's so sweaty. It's so sweaty. I have to. He put it on him. And immediately when he took it off and gave it back to me, walk off and give it to a kid. I'm like, dude, that's disgusting. I squeeze it a little. And sweat comes out of it. Like it's drenched. Yeah. So after a game, you'll give it to a kid. Do you feel bad about giving a sweaty headband to a kid? No, the kids love it. But there are some times where like, you know, you give a little like a toss where it's not a handoff. Yeah. And the kid will have like an outstretched hand and grab it. And the sweat will just fly off behind them in their face. And it's like, I feel terrible. But, you know, the kids, apparently they are just so excited to have a sweatband. They don't even. Yeah. They don't care. They're like, I'm never off for shit. I said, that's like sweat coming off of my head into the sweatband. Do you sweat more with a bald head? Yeah. Well, when I had hair, the hair caught everything. Yeah. Well, you didn't have a lot of hair. But it is enough. Would you go to Turkey? No. Imagine I came out post-retirement. Dude, awesome. Actually, no, not post-retirement. Next year. Yeah. Like opening night. I come out next year with just a fade. Yeah. Imagine if you had done it right after you won. And then, like, banner night. How long does it take to recover from that stuff? I think it's like a couple weeks that you can't do stuff. Like sweat or get wet. Yeah, yeah. And then after that, I mean, most of the guys, like, in a few months, they look normal. Yeah. Yeah. We could have done it. That would have been such a good look. You should do it. Banner night, you walk out there, championship hair. Yeah. Did you see, by the way, Jalen... That would be so funny. Jalen Suggs kind of stole your look. Yeah, no, he did. He came back from all-star break with the ball. With his full shiz, yeah. All right, so there's motivation when you play the Magic. We got one more game this year. That trip before March Madness, we're playing. Okay, so there's your motivation. Find that. They're not tanking, but still, you got to find it. Just need to win. They're going to try and win the game. Yeah, I mentioned the Jokic thing. You would have fucked him up, right? Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Him being 100-something pounds and a foot taller, it wouldn't have mattered. What was the conversation in the locker room after? I would imagine it was a lot of, you know, like if you get in a bar fight with your boys, you're like, yeah, you see what I see? The move I pulled. Oh, yeah. There's a lot of it's a lot of talk about what somebody would have done who wasn't out there. That's like the running joke on our team is like whoever's not in the game. If somebody doesn't handle it the right way, it's like, you know, you just shit on the whole time. Yeah, it's like, oh, dude, you're soft. Like, you didn't even get in the mix, something like that. So who didn't get in the mix enough? Well, no, that was perfect. Well, Lou would have, but he thought he wasn't going to get ejected, and then he got ejected, so he didn't get his money's worth. Okay. That's like NBA rule number one. If you know you're going to get ejected or you know you're going to get a second tech, you just go all in. Keep going. You've seen the clips of the guys who go up to the refs individually when they've gotten a second tech, and they're just F you, F you, F you. Yeah. It's like that's what you got to do. Make it worth it. Yeah, absolutely. Did you know that the finals game seven averaged 2.4 billion viewers? I did not. Yeah. That's good. It's pretty crazy. That's good for us. On ABC. That's like, yeah, a third of the world tuned into that game. I might have gotten centled when I saw that, and I was like, yeah, it makes sense because Caruso is playing. How many of those do we think are bot streams from, like, India? Probably a lot. Probably like one. But I do feel like the product, I don't want to speak for the league as a whole, but I enjoy watching Thunder games. You guys play a very entertaining style of basketball. It's fun to watch as a viewer. Is it more fun to play this style as a player? Yeah, I mean, I love the way we play. Obviously, a lot goes into that. You need to have good players to play well in NBA, pro sports in general. You've got to have good players. Damn, you should be a GM. Yeah, I mean, bring in good players, you're going to win. But no, I love it. Like I said, there's a lot of stuff that goes into it, but the way we play is just fun. You know, it's entertaining and the guys are like competitive. So that makes it fun. But like to the point of the finals, like I think that's, you know, even though it was obviously game seven is going to be game seven. People are going to tune in just because of the name, the label of a game seven. But like the Pacers last year in the playoffs, like they played how we played. Yeah. They were like random offensively, super aggressive, physical defensively. And I think that's why there was so much success with the finals and the playoffs last year in general. Because the basketball, say what you want during the regular season, guys don't play. You can't play at playoff level for however many games, 82 games or however many games you play, 70 games. But once you get to the playoffs, the basketball is pure. If it's not, you lose. If you don't play good hoops and, what did we say, ethical hoops, If you're not taking care of fundamentals, playing hard as shit, competing at the highest level, you go home. And I think that's probably why people tune in so much to playoffs in general for any sport. Because they know it's going to be the highest level in purest form. Well, and I also think the playoffs, I love the NBA playoffs because it is very... You have to go and take your lumps to then get over the mountain. You can't luck into it. It's a series. You have to win four games against somebody. Even last year, you guys are the best team, and you go to seven games against the Nuggets and seven games against the Pacers. It felt like there were moments that you guys were learning how to win that championship along the way where it's like, yeah, it takes that. Do you feel like you guys are the hunted this year? Do you feel like you have a bullseye? Yeah, for sure. But that's a good thing. It would be weird if you won the championship and everyone was like, nah, we don't believe. We don't think they're actually that good. Right. Like the fake bubble championship. Yeah, like that. Where everyone was like, did we even have a championship? Yeah, they forgot it even happened. I actually thought I would put the NBA Cup over the bubble championship. Oh, easily. Yeah. Well, we said what was the book cover is two on that list. Yeah. Right, we go Thunder Championship, book cover, LA. I have heard more and more. No, I think it goes Thunder Championship, book cover, NBA Cup, second place. Second place. NBA Cup, third place. Oh, even the third. Bubble. Okay, that's fair. First team all defense. Yeah. I would put a bubble. Start listening personal accolades. The 74 at Tahoe. 74 at Tahoe. 10 at bubble. That one's up above the cup games. People got to talk about it more. I just watched this video of Hartenstein taking your headband. That's a gross headband. You can tell. Your head is very, very sweaty. It's sweaty. That's 10 seconds after. I mean, yeah. That's a tough one. You're like, sorry, man. But you're a real pro. You continue doing the interview. He wants you to continue. He does, and you all respect the Nick. That's for him. He is – I don't know. He's uncrackable. We've done so many different things to him. People put their chains on him. We've put like 30 towels on him before. He's unwaverable. He's locked once he gets the mic in his hand. So earlier you were saying that you know when you're going to play against the Magic again. Do you have the rest of your schedule memorized? No. I just know that because that's part of that long road trip, and you look at a long road trip in March, And you're just like, ew. It's just kind of gross. Yeah. Five-game, East Coast road trip. No, I usually go like two or three games at a time, like increments. Do you ever wake up in a city and you're like, wait, where am I again? Yeah, occasionally, like once or twice. Once or twice a season. And it's usually like into December, January. Everything looks the same. Yeah, where you forget your hotel room number. You go to the hotel room from the last road trip. But if you're staying at 512, you go to like, you know, 108, 1008, something like that. And it's like you're doing the key and you're like, why is it not working? And then it hits you. You're like, I'm an idiot. What about like walking out of your hotel room in the morning and knowing which direction to go for the elevator? Yeah, there's some that are like the hotel here, the elevator. It's not just like elevator two long hallways. It's like elevator two long hallways. But then there's an opening to go to a back hallway that's also connected. It's like you wake up after you get in at 3 a.m. and you got to go somewhere. You reorient. One eye's open. You're just hoping to make it. We're going to get $100 million. It's tough. Yeah, no, I mean, that's the only reason you can make it. This is it. What's your guys' plane situation? We were having this debate the other day. Is it all first class? Yeah. So is it a plane just of first class? Yeah, Delta's like the sponsor for the team. They put in a rule a couple years ago that they grandfathered anybody in, but no personal team jets because they said it was unfair advantage to have special whatever that you can – some owners are richer than others and you can pay for it. But league mandate is like Delta Charters, and it's first class all the way through. Okay. What's your go-to card game on the plane? Bure. Are you good? Yeah. I mean, I know how to play. Who's the best? I mean, there's a lot of luck involved. I don't know if you can say who's the best. Who's up the most this year? Probably me or J-Will. Oh, shit. We sit next to each other on the table. You got a target on your back. Do you guys have communication? You don't need to talk nonverbal? We know how to play the game. So, yeah. We understand. You understand when to go for a tie and when you should try to boo somebody and go for the win. Is there anybody on the team that's not good? That's like we're going to take his money? Chet. Chet's down. Yeah. Chet's down. This team doesn't play for high stakes. Like, this is the most calm, at least, like, monetary-wise, B-Ray, but he's down. He's down. What's it like being – I mean, you're officially the vet on the team, right? Yeah. Is it weird, like, having guys that are all – you know, there's some guys that are 10 years younger than you. It feels normal until, like, once a week where it's like they have a conversation about something and somebody, and I'm just like, I would never talk about that. It's like nothing that even crosses the scope of reality for me. And it's also probably you've played so many guys, like with or against so many guys, they're like, oh, shit, that guy, I remember watching him. Yeah, that's also like the running joke is like whenever they'll be, you know, they'll see any old player, like they could play from the 70s. And Cason does this a lot, Cason Wallace. We'd be like, you play with him? We did like our TikTok, our social media before we got on the plane. we traveled on my birthday and they had like a little bunt cake for me and everybody else i thought that was it like that was it that i was the only one for the the day but they did like birthday messages and anybody that wished me a happy birthday like with a number it was 45 to 60 somewhere between 45 and 60 was the number like happy 48th birthday it's bullshit it's like come on dude hank does that to us all the time he had us at we're 41 he had us at 40 for like the last eight years. Yeah, well that's the other thing is people that are younger, they just bump you up to the next place. I know. We're going to be 50 now in a minute. You're 41, you're 50. It's pretty much the same thing. Those are pretty much the same. I just had an idea we were talking about Bure a second ago. Doing it like a World Series of Poker, but an NBA Cup for Bure between the teams. I feel like that would get a lot of views during an All-Star. Oh, that would do numbers. Instead of a slam dunk? Yeah, it's a slam dunk. You have team like best two from each team so like what's the buy-in for like each player i don't know what do you think it would have to be to get people interested well i know that some people in the league like i've heard i've heard some astronomical numbers like people gamble way too much money for for teammates like yeah and they're not as nice like we do it for more of like past the time camaraderie just like play cards on the flight talk i know some people that like they gamble gamble like there's like tens of thousands of dollars being exchanged i mean if we get it during all-star like the all-star week like a 20k buy-in all right i was gonna say more like 100 000 100 thousand buy-in you can probably find 10 guys in a league that will do that's what i'm saying and then the trash talk at that table would be pretty intense i feel like people compete harder at that than they would in the all-star game oh yeah well you put that much money on it for sure yeah because that's their money going to somebody else that's like that's like gambling in general it like the casino it's like i don't get how people go to the casino and play poker crazy like if i lose the house cool lost the house you're supposed to lose the house house is gonna take some of your money if i am playing poker at the table with y'all and you take my money yeah i'd rather just do it at home with friends i i get why those videos you see the videos in the casinos where like guys will stand up and just like somebody's getting knocked out yeah i get it yeah somebody probably said some sly shit took took two grand from this guy that like is working paycheck to paycheck yeah and now they have real beef in real life you're right agreed agreed um all right i have one last question for you uh this has been awesome great to have you back miss you we'll see you in the sun's out today in chicago what a yes are you going to be in tahoe this year yeah that's not the last question all right so we'll see you in two questions uh roback question r-h-o-b-a-c-k.com promo code take 20 off your first purchase q-zips polos hoodies joggers shorts roback.com promo code take do you want to guarantee another title no I don't you thought about it though for a second that was the quickest response no I think there was a little bit of hesitation because anyone can win one anybody can win one and a half one total let me ask it a different way who on the team would you guys be most pissed about if they went on a podcast and guaranteed a title that's a great question thank you who's most likely or who would be the most pissed both You can do both, yeah. Honestly, I don't think anybody's likely to. They're young, but they're very well media trained. I don't think anybody would slip up. Who would be most pissed about? It would have to be somebody that doesn't play. It would have to be somebody that doesn't have an actual influence. So we'd have to do one of the young guys on our team. That would be Jared McCain. Oh, he did it in a TikTok? Jared McCain did it in a TikTok. He just showed up. He's so new. Yeah, right. If he did a TikTok, like, why the Thunder are going to win the title. That would be the worst. That would probably be the one. Will you do a TikTok with him if he asks? Maybe. Come on. You got to say yes. No, I mean, I'm not a big TikTok guy in general. You don't have to be on TikTok. He just records it. But that's what I'm saying. It depends what it is. It's a dance. I'm not dancing. You have to dance. That's not my genre of TikTok. What if he came up to you and was like, hey, if you don't do this TikTok with me dancing I'm going to do a TikTok guaranteeing a title this whole new I got you now that's a tough one he's like I'm ready to go locked and loaded at that point I'd probably just do it I'm a good teammate if it came to that if he asked me that in reality I'd be like we got to talk about some stuff I'm being held awesome I'm being held gunpointed to do a TikTok You'd have to do it You'd have to do it It would be much easier than that Hart and J. Will did one the other day But he did it and they're just standing in the background I was like this isn't even Yeah you could just be a background dancer They don't even dance They're just standing They're just standing Alright well Alex thank you so much We love having you on We'll have you on after you win the title again this year. Yeah, we'll do it. We'll do a championship, a double championship, Tahoe and NBA. Oh, so you kind of guarantee that. Yeah. That I'm much more comfortable saying I'll guarantee you because I don't think it'll happen. Okay. Winning the Tahoe championship as well. That's 74. Would you guarantee an NBA cup for next year? Oh. I'm owing to. But you've never guaranteed. I'm owing Howard. I don't think anybody's ever guaranteed an NBA cup. You think that's our issue? Yeah, do it. We need the more pressure. Say we're going to win the NBA Cup next year. I hope we're going to win the NBA Cup next year. No. No, you have to. You got to lock in. I really hope we are. You know what? That attitude, you'll never win the NBA Cup. You have to feel like you're the hunted. You're not the hunted in the NBA Cup. That's why we haven't made it to the finish line. Alex Russo, great player, could never do it for the NBA Cup. Yeah, couldn't win. Can't get it done in December. Can't win the mid one. When the lights get as bright as possible in the NBA Cup, he chokes. You're a choker. 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But do you like, is it like the 10,000? 422 mile. Yeah, no, I agree with Big Cat. If this was called the length of the race, then like the 13 points. His 200, like the speed he ran 200 meters is faster than you could run 200 meters right now. For 13 miles straight. Well, yeah, I'm slow. Correct, but I don't like that it's called a half marathon. But you could sprint a 200. Yeah, but dude, call it a 10,000 meters? You should be able to run 200 faster than a marathon runner is running a 13 mile pace. That's just not true. What are you talking about? Marathoners are so fast, dude Do you see the finish of the LA marathon? You think you should be able to run faster Than the fastest marathoner For a 200 No, they run Their pace is sprinting They just sprint for They just look better doing sprints What's the end of the Los Angeles marathon today? This is fucking insane This guy's talking running Oh, he gets caught? There's a guy that was like, he looked like he was about 50 yards ahead. Oh, man. With about 100 yards left. Did he catch him? And he catches him. Oh, that's incredible. Yeah. Hank, I don't think you understand how fast these guys are going. I would never let that happen to me. You don't understand. You said you don't care. You don't care about speed. No. You did this shit with them. No. You said it with Zach. You said it with the Olympic sprinters. You guys don't care. You have no respect for speed. You're not understanding my argument. You have no respect for speed. Your dumb little brain can't understand my argument because we're not talking about golf right now. We're talking about racing. What did you say? You'd rather be a figure skater than a sprinter. What? Going back to the Olympic. Oh, speed skating. Well, that one got a little confusing because then we also made it so you couldn't run anywhere but a track, but you could also figure skate everywhere. The debate got very constrained. Being fast is impressive. Yes. Dude, they are really, really fast. You saying that, like, oh, you should be able to run faster than a marathon or pace-wise for 200 meters. No, they're so fast. What they're doing is that's what our sprint is. It's faster than our sprint. Wait, what is the actual pace on their sprint? My point is half marathon is bullshit. Make it a full marathon or make it a 10K or whatever. It's just a half marathon just sounds ridiculous. Does it not? No. What's the difference in the track? It's not a real race. I'm way more impressed if somebody says I set the world record in the 800 meters than I am. Exactly. If somebody says I set the world record in the half mile. I have no idea how long 10,000 meters is, but if someone told me they set the record for it, I'd be like, holy fuck, dude. That's insane. I will say that marathon is like a joke sport thing that people who can't commit to a full marathon run a half marathon. I will say that the guy that sets the record should be the only person that's allowed to put the 13.1s to go back in the back of their car. But I didn't even know they ran competitive half marathons. I didn't. Yeah, they're usually like you throw a bunch of color dust on you. You just stopped listening after we started making our point. I respect speed. So you did stop listening after we started making our point. You said it's a half marathon. It should be a marathon or no marathon once you say it's a half marathon. It has nothing to do with speed. I respect the fuck out of speed. As a number one marathon and half marathon respecter, who's your favorite marathoner? You didn't even tweet about it. So? I love when people get people on that though You even tweet about the fucking women's winning the gold medal I don't fucking know anymore I'm not Oh I do I guess I respect speed more than you Hank you're talking to a guy who like Half of the time we have an athlete on I say how sick is it to be fast Oh Craig Engels Let's do the numbers Okay I'm happy we brought this up No it's a good debate but Hank he won't listen to what I'm saying it has nothing to do with speed it has to do with the fact that the half marathon in principle is a joke that's a joke of a race it is that's your take so if someone has the fastest turkey trot are you going to be like wow that's incredible if it's really fast I'll respect it alright 23 56 13 86 I hope this is 13 because I'm not going to give it to you. This is the longest number session of all time. 75. Anyone got 75? One more? One more. One more. I'm dying for it to be 13. A lot of people said the last one was rigged. What? The machine. What? The machine. Remember Matt made that claim? Remember he's gotten it right here? 98 98 I'm going to be upset when a 99 comes out 98 I am too Happy birthday by the way To Servasier Dennis And Najee Harris Careful with the celebrations Najee Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.