Grit Week Continues, Lane Kiffin, Blake Bortles, Wemby’s Incredible Game 1, Knicks Kill The Cavs Plus Hot Seat/Cool Throne

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We spent the day at LSU. We have an awesome interview with Lane Kiffin on the show. We also were in Jacksonville on Monday. We did the construction with Blake Bortles and we have him on the show as well. I'll say it right now. Maybe worst interview we've ever done because it was in the back of a 130 degree Vanny Woodhead. But we love Blake. So it was still some funny moments because we were dying. I'd say it's 30% gold, 70% mold. Yeah, yeah. But we love Blake. We have a great vlog coming out on Thursday with Blake. We did some really cool stuff in Jacksonville on Monday. We're going to talk some playoffs. The playoffs have been incredible. We've got guys on grit a little behind the scenes of our travels. It's all here. It's Grit Week. It's one of our favorite weeks of the year and it's brought to you by our friends at Chevy. It's Grit Week that this is the part of the football calendar where nobody's watching but everything gets built. 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We were going to start the show with Wemby because we have a lot of Wemby to talk about because what we watched on Monday night or for our case, what we listened to in Vanny Woodhead, which was kind of a fun experience listening to a basketball game on radio. Old school. Wemby, I can't stop thinking about Wemby, but then Jalen Brunson happened and the Knicks eliminated a 20, was it 20 point fourth quarter deficit? Essentially at the hands of Jalen Brunson, cooking, frying, grilling, chopping, whatever. Hunting. He was hunting. Killing, whatever you want to put it on. Shaving. Skates, James Harden. Shaved him. And the Knicks are now up 1-0 and I don't want to say a series is over after one game. Series over. You can't lose that game if you're the Cavs. Series over. When it went into overtime, we said the Cavs have to win this. This is must win. You can't give this up. All time choke. They choked it away. Choked it away. Choked away. And we should give credit. You said obviously like Brunson. Yes. OG is awesome at defense. Yeah. He had them in hell. OG is incredible at defense. James Harden. I just don't know. Like he just he missed a lot of shots and he just got fried on defense. I don't know if you have another option, but it felt like anything else would work there. And it did feel this is why Knicks fans deservedly so will die for Jalen Brunson because he is that type of guy where when everything feels like it's going to shit and MSG doesn't have that buzz to it. He brings the buzz back and he puts on a performance like that. Also shout out Landry Shamit. I think he went three for three for threes and one that was just impossible to go in and yeah. Mims. Zack. Congratulations. Game one. I'm going to say it. You guys are in the NBA finals. Yep. Congrats. I'm not even trolling. I do. You agree. Mims like losing that game because it was one of those situations where I would always think that the team that had just played in a game seven two days ago is not going to be up to snuff when it comes to game one. It's like almost an auto loss. We saw it with the Sixers. Max talked about it. The scheduled loss. The Cavs come out and the Knicks look like the team that had played two days ago. They were rusty. Too much rest. Yeah. Too much rest. Much rest. And it took. Yeah. It took them three quarters to wake up and then when they woke up they woke up. So congratulations. The Cavs had that game. They were going to steal game one. They were going to be able to go back to Cleveland. We know splitting the first two games which I guess they still could do potentially. But you can't lose that game. That was the worst three quarters I've ever watched them play like any team in the NBA could beat them like even the Wizards like it seems a bit unnecessary. Well, he had hit our quote of talking about the Wizards. Yeah. I mean, since Mims brought it up, I think you can make the argument that AJ DeBansa is he's going to the best possible situation for a rookie. It might not be in the history of the NBA. Well, no, let's just say that whoever it is is going to the best situation in the history of the NBA for a rookie. Yeah, no, it was so bad. I was begging you guys to record that. But then you were being a piece of shit. Yeah, I would like to apologize to you guys. I also never left my bed. That also on me. Oh, thank you. We were debating what Mims was doing, how he's watching the game. Some people said standing up pacing in front of your TV. I thought you might be in bed. You might be tucked in. It was so so the reason I was talking. The reason why we're calling memes a piece of shit is we've had one of the longest days. We were up at five o'clock in the morning to do hot yoga with Lane Kiffin. We played what it felt like it was not yoga, by the way. It was. Yeah, we're going to get to it with Lane. So that was a fucking lie. Yeah, I was fucked up. We played a million sports. We were out in the sun all day. We've been up since five. We just wanted to record the pod and memes hit us with when when the calves went up 20. He said, OK, let's record the pod for the love of God. Can we please? Wade, four point play. Yeah. And then he we all come down here and memes just didn't come down here. And then the next come all the way back and then we have overtime. So piece of shit, but also congrats. Yeah, I apologize. But I also don't apologize. It was such a such great comeback. Yeah, that's fair. Jaylen Brunson, so good at basketball. I'm going to name my first kid Jaylen Brunson. Oh, congrats on being pregnant. Thank you. First name. Jaylen Brunson. Yeah. First first and last name. Jaylen Brunson. Zach. Jaylen Brunson's ability to just blow by guys when he knows he's got to turn it on. Maybe the most hustle in the entire NBA. What a comeback. Let's go. Love to see. I was. Hell, yes. I'll be honest with you guys. I was devastated. I was I was watching the game down at the they had the game on the TV at the at the bar downstairs. And it was kind of a sad sight. And then things just started turning around and they started ripping because no shots were falling early. Like we were abysmal from three early. Yeah, they were two for 19. Yeah, I think it got up to like four for 24. And just terrible. I'll be honest. After that first half, I felt like neither team was really impressive at all. Like, even though the Cavs were winning, they didn't look like they were playing that good. We ran out. We got some ice cream at halftime just to. Did you like your ice cream? Is there a frown upside down? I I I invented the ice cream chaser, which I think you actually do. But you do is not even a chaser. It's just two ice creams, two ice creams. But yeah, I invented the ice cream chaser this trip. It's getting a regular large waffle cone and then a small cup that you can just finish yourself off with cup travels. That's a good move. Yeah. Two different flavors. You got to go two different flavors. I've been going mint chip, which is like it's almost like brushing your teeth. I eat the waffle cone, then I brush my teeth and mint chip. There's a big movement to keep mint in the bathroom. People that don't like mint chocolate chip flavored ice cream. I love it. I don't I don't care. Yeah, so good. I I'm going to eat whatever ice cream I want. One mint chip in the bathroom. Yeah. No, no, they're saying. They're saying like mint belongs in toothpaste. It belongs in mouthwash. I'm a big mint fan and big cats. Right. You can use it in lieu. Ice cream flavor there. Of two. Yeah. Well, it's not the best. That's wrong. Don't. Yeah. Also, they didn't have a large flavor. You went too far, Hank. There's no large flavor. It was a small, medium and then best value. That was just their name for large. Yeah. Fantastic consistency from the place from today. Yeah, I never really go. I never been to an ice cream place where they roll it up like like Chipotle. You know, the marble top first time. Yeah, Hank was pissed and I was like, dude, just wait. And he's like, oh my God, they did it. They made me mint chip. All right. So yeah, back to the game. Cats got to stop doing stupid fouls, too. When he had that foul on the OG dry by, I thought that was a game. Yeah. But he's just got to stop with superfouls. Play cat wasn't good tonight. No, terrible. No. Was that was Hathaway there? I'm not sure. They they've priced out the everyday next fan like in half way. Halfway. Yeah. Oh, by the way, I saw Devil Wears Prada. I'm kind of back in on in halfway. I regret talking shit about her. She's very good in that. There's your gonna have to go see the second one. I think I might. Yeah. Have to think I might. That's all. Also, did you see Mike? Mike Mike, pre pull back a bang. He he he almost banged. He double clutched a bang. Yeah, he almost banged the calves. Who was it that shot the last shot in regulation? Sam Aril. Yeah. He almost banged it and he's pulled it back. It's professional. Yeah. He knows when to do that. It's crazy that it like that was a you just can't lose that game. You cannot lose that game if you're if you're the calves. Yeah, I mean, it's it's over. Nixon for it's over. Yeah. OK, the next game. Well, Zach's telling you to cool down and Hank. No, I didn't say anything. Pumped you. He pumped the brakes on you. He pumped the brakes when you said Nixon for that was more so internally and it came out physically. But I wouldn't I wouldn't say pump the brakes, but it just like something to think about. So not next and for Nixon. What? Nixon's success. We just got one game at a time. Oh, I like that. Nixon's success. The other game was absolutely incredible. Yeah. We it's it's it's always the best when in sports you expect like a great series. And obviously, the series is a lot to go, but you expect two great teams to give you a great game and somehow OKC San Antonio Game One went past that level and Wemby. I just I've been thinking about Wemby. I can't stop thinking about Wemby. He is the Bersilis. He's the best watch in the NBA right now. It's not even close. I don't think we're still at the not even close part, but just his entire performance, leaving it like he was so gassed that three that looked like we were talking about it. It looked like it was almost like there was a whistle beforehand because it was like in slow motion. It was just incredible. It was just an incredible game and incredible watch. The Spurs, the young Spurs. Did you see the Spurs starting lineup because Daren Fox was out with an injury? So Dylan Harper started the Spurs starting lineup. I think their average age was 22 years old. Yeah, like full all of them. It's yeah, here it is. Harper 20, Castle 21, Self 25, Wemby 22. And then you want to you want to hit up your guy, Champagne Pat. What did you call him? Champagne, Champagne. Champagne, Champagne 24. The average age for the the San Antonio Spurs who took game one against the defending champions, 22 years old, 346 days. Yeah, that that three by Wemby. I mean, there's no defense for it. There's no possible way to guard it. And if you try to guard them away from the basket, you're going to put like Alex Caruso on them, which Alex was playing on him for a decent amount of time. It was incredible. Alex Caruso is a great defender. He's an awesome defender. Also great three point shooter last point. You can't have a guy that's like six, six guarding guy that's seven, five. But I don't even I don't even blame him on that because no, I know that shot was so deep. That's why I'm saying like Wemby is like, that's how much of a problem he is. Like you cannot defend him when he's hitting those shots. That was a step shot. It's impossible to stop the guy. And why I do have one bone to pick with memes about that something that we posted after that shot. You said Wemby was or a farming afterwards. Oh, no, dude, that was the coolest moment when he was standing there. Not every spurs teammates were just going crazy for him. Not everything that's awesome is or a farm. That that was a war for no, it wasn't. No, they also look so definition. That's with Wemby standing in front of them. They all look so cute like little munchkins. It was so so fucking awesome. What is your definition? He said by definition, that was a war for me. Yeah, he knew what he was doing. He was standing. He was standing in front of the bed. He hit it. Can't do that shot. And then he looked at his teammates. It was like, yeah. No, he looked to the crowd. They look at his team else. He's like, yeah, I'm the best and he wanted to capture that moment. That's a war for me. Why do we have to turn that into something negative? Like it's not negative. Are you or farming right now? You're doing the things might. Oh, you're doing the face right now. Memes might be or a farming. No, or farmers. You're just you're just farming aura. And that's what he did in that moment. I don't know. It seems like it's a negative connotation. I think he just hit the shot and it was an awesome moment. I guess I don't care about the or farming. I don't even understand it. It was just cool. Like they look so cute like going crazy for him. It was cool. I mean, when he is just I can't I can't stop thinking about when be an SGA was not good. For his standards, he's got to be better. They were doing a good job double teaming him. When be also was just playing like free safety and being like, Hey, let's just let Lou Dortch shoot. And that's a tough when you when your shots don't fall. That's tough. Can I do real quick? Just rattle off some when be stats for you guys just because they're so awesome. Okay. When be is the first player with 35 points and 20 rebounds in a conference finals game since Charles Barkley in 1993, at least 35 points and 20 rebounds. When be was the first or the youngest player since Kareem with 40 points and 20 rebounds in a playoff game. When be had 41 points and 24 rebounds only players to reach those numbers in a playoff game since 1968. Charles Barkley, Hakeem, Hakeem again, Wilt and Kareem. That's pretty insane company. Yeah. When be also had 24 rebounds. The Thunder starters had 23. Insane. Also, the Thunder, they're on off with when be on and off the floor. When when be was off the floor, the Thunder went 10 for 16 from the field. When when be was on the floor, they went 16 for 50. It's the Kirk Goldsbury stat that he had at the end of end of the regular season when he basically was like, if you look at the numbers, whenever when be is playing on the court, he basically makes the other team a lesser version of the New Jersey or the Brooklyn Nets in terms of offensive efficiency. He's that special. Yeah. I think I'm going to say something. I think it's I'm starting to feel bad for LeBron because when he's probably better than LeBron. He probably can have a better career than LeBron at the stage right right after. They're they're they're these moments in the playoffs that you always look at. Like, we'll look back at that game and be like, that's when Wimby announced himself. Yeah. Like with LeBron, I would say it was probably that series against the Pistons where he just said, OK, it's going to be me against all you guys. Yeah, we scored. Yeah, whatever it was, like 20 points in a row. Yeah, this was this was when Wimby was like, OK, I'm a superstar and he was by far the best player on the court. He's probably the best player in the NBA. I would say here's where I'm at with Wimby. He has to win a minimum. Seven championships has to if he doesn't disappointment. OK, OK. I mean, I think that the problem with Wimby is he is seven five. So the injury concern, you just hope he stays healthy because he's so much fun to watch. Seven championship. Hanks, what do you think? That's ridiculous. OK. Why? Why would you say that when you said that? Hank was like, literally made a disgusted face through his hands. So that's ridiculous. Seven is seven. I mean, that's they're doing a bit right now. And just play a long game. Oh, yeah, agreed. No, thank you. OK. Hey, I would love to have Hank just like react to everything that we say. That's a joke. Just like that's ridiculous. Why would you say that? I do. I do kind of like the thundering game, too, because it did feel like the thunder or the spurs. Not that they're happy with, you know, it's only game one, but they emptied the tank and the thunder do go 10 deep. So like Wimby played so many minutes, he left it all out. He was gas. He was just he was just like throwing like his body around at the end. So it's crazy is in the regular season. They put him on a big time minutes restriction. Like they were smart. They held him back and the plan was always going to be get to the playoffs, unleash Wimby. And then when you do that, then you have the natural question of like, can he deal with more minutes? How is his fitness going to be? It doesn't he's he's in great shape. And he was he like hitting that shot at the very end after all those minutes when he was exhausted, like, I don't know what you can do to stop the guy. No, I don't see how it's possible to stop him. No, he's I mean, he when if if he gets the ball anywhere near the rim, it's in. He can he can dribble. He can shoot. He can do everything. And then on defense, he just everyone has to alter their shot. Again, I mean, this stat alone with Wimby off the floor, the Thunder were 10 for 16 from the field with Wimby on the floor. They were 16 for 50. Now, they could probably if they make some more open threes, they probably, you know, everything looks different. But still, that's just what he does defensively. And I like how he's got like a little bit of a mean streak in him. Now, it might just be because he's going up against Chet and they've got a great rivalry that's gone back years where they it looks like they actually don't like each other, which I love. I love seeing those guys go at it like that. So that gave him a little bit more motivation. But I guess the only way you can stop the guy is like getting in foul trouble. Yeah, besides that, I don't really know what you can do. It's it was it was a crazy performance. And again, we we listened to the majority. We saw the end of the game and overtime on TV. But we listen to the game in Vanny Woodhead. I kind of like listening to a game. You feel it feels. I don't know. I just you feel locked in. I and it's a different experience when you listen to the game on the radio, as opposed to like just listening to like the TV. Yeah, you know, like because you can go like YouTube TV and have that play through the stereo. No, we were doing radio. We're going to the radio. Carlos, yes, that's right. And his all time horse voice. Yep. Yeah. The other game we had, it was a great night for great two nights for playoffs. The Canadians advance feel terrible for Buffalo. Kind of a soft goal. Yeah. Sabres like the Montreal jumped out early and then it felt like the Sabres were the better team for the last two periods. And that just sucks. So for Buffalo, heartbreaking way to lose. Yeah. Yeah. And you're one step closer to having to eat two croissants a day. Yeah, which moved to become a French citizen and become a French citizen. I think that the Hurricanes I'm putting some faith in them for the first time. I will be rooting for the Carolina Hurricanes. Yeah, they're they're you're good. Oh, wait, say that, Hank. You good? It's they're like the next Hurricanes are that much better. Well, that's ridiculous. He's he's doing a bit. I just do the Hank. I was doing a bit. He's doing a bit back to you. Got it. I'm so jealous of memes right now. He just Twitter search, Nick's and is just scroll has just been scrolling ever since that even finding that's the best. It's the best feeling after a win. Yeah. And you're just what is everyone saying? You can just he can Twitter search Brunson. Oh, yeah. That's all. Search. He can Twitter search Hardin. You can watch it. Watch locked on calves. Listen to locked on calves tomorrow. Yeah. Yeah. You're going to get some locked on calves. What do you find in what do you find in memes? Do tell the calves had a ninety nine point nine percent chance of winning this game. Oh, man. That's obvious. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that is. It's just so good. Zach Orban is a great rebel tweet. What? Say. I'm deactivating. MGM building a new hotel wing in Las Vegas off tonight. Ninety five percent of the money bet at a sports book was on next minus seven and a half tonight. They're down 20 with seven twenty nine to go. Oh, they did cover love that one by eleven. One by eleven memes or Zach, you can answer this question. So obviously great comeback. But the fact that they were down by so much, are you just completely like wiping that off, throwing that off to like it was a long layoff? So we had to knock the rust and then we're good moving forward. Or is there any lingering concern with the fact that you guys were down so big in this game? So so I would say to that is. In sweeping a team, you then get to rest. Too much rest may lead to hibernation. And sometimes it takes a bear a little bit to wake up when the bear wakes up. You better watch out. Cows are dead. Let's just say the cows are dead like that. You can't lose that game. They called one time out in the in the 30 to eight run. They just James Harden got cooked. They were up 20 in the fourth quarter. The next snatched their soul, snatched their heart. It's over. I'm sorry. I mean, what are we talking about? You know that means you know in your heart of hearts, like you can't lose a game when you're up 20 with how much time was left? Eight minutes. Yes, seven, three, I thought they were there. I thought they were going to take out the starters. That that was like that was the vibe that it was going towards. Like a minute more, it would have been like take out the starters. Jalen Bruns is like, no, I'm going to I'm going to fucking fry James Harden and we're going to be back in this game. Yeah, I think we're good. But the the third quarter defense when they were double team in a half court, I don't know what the fuck that was. So we need it. We need to actually make some coaching adjustments and not not double team leave their three point. You played like shit and you won so bad. But it was a great basketball game. You worried about it wasn't Wemby. I mean, there's no great basketball game has to have Wemby. Yeah, it's your great basketball. It's like a different sport. Yeah. Great. Yeah, it was great ending. Great ending. Come on. You need to know. It was a terrible basketball game. Yeah, you need Wemby. Yeah, it's like watching a movie with no boobs. Mm hmm. Who's all right? Not me. Never would you are you nervous about Wemby? No, we have Mr. Robinson. Oh, you have the Wemby stop. We have Wemby stop. That's right. Mr. Robinson. Why did he not play that much tonight? They were they were doing Hackamitch. This. Do you think anyone in the next organization is like, hey, dude, just maybe a little loft on the free throws? I think so. I don't know why not try underhand at this point. Just like just like it's not. Hey, Mitchell, you have to change everything. Just just a little arc. Maybe just put you know what they need to do? Just have a broomstick in practice and be like, don't hit this broomstick, dude. Yeah, I think he's the only player in the NBA that a hack shack still works. It's just line drives right at the hoop. It's crazy. And you see how important he is when he's out there. Yes, yes. It's yes. Beast. OK, quick other two stories. Jason Kidd fired. Yep. What? I think that's the only reason I bring it up is I actually think it's probably the best job because you get to coach Cooper Flagg. Like that's a that's a very that's a that's a big time job now. I've Jason Kidd, I feel like he's just been place to place and just had good players. Yeah, I mean, he bought himself a couple of years when he figured out that when he wears like thick horn rim glasses, he looks smarter. And everyone's like, maybe this guy's a genius. Yeah. Oh, by the way, Kenny Atkinson said, I like to hold my timeouts. I try to hold them. Good job, dude. Yeah, way to hold your timeouts when they're going on a 38 run and MSG's roof is about to fucking fall off yet. No. How do you say that? I like to hold my timeouts as you as you lose that lead. And the other one is we'll discuss this at a later time, but we were dead right about the Blazers owner when he didn't buy the T shirts. Dundan, he did like a mass firing today that looked like he just went into his spreadsheet and picked like the highest paid employees. They're just like, you're out. So that guy sucks. We're on him. We'll be a later to be continued. We're on him. I guess he's he was a payday loan king that had a bunch of lawsuits. Yeah. Yeah. Not a good guy. Also, just a quick shout out to our guy Sawyer at LSU. Yeah. Incredible day. We have so much content we did today. The Lane Kiffin interview is so awesome. We basically like hung out with Lane Kiffin all day so that by the time we did the interview, it was like, yeah, we've just been hanging out all day and it made the interview even that much better. So and we did a crawfish boy. We did everything. So he was the hospitality here at LSU was like top, top notch. And it's a lot because of Sawyer, who's an AWL. So yeah, unbelievable day. Second to none. Also, shut up all the gooners out there. Oh, yeah. Our gooners. Awesome. Oh, one Joel and Bede. Congrats. You got a chip. What do you do? What are you doing? Means you guys see Ben Simmons one chip today. Yeah. Yeah. Fishing. Oh, congrats to him. Mm hmm. Yeah. Well, his teammates carried him. No, Max, what are you going to say? Quick. Fuck you. Me. Oh. We've also reached the point of great week. Yeah, we're just we're we're. Did you guys see the NFL News? Do tell the the owners voted to go from 10 international games to 11. You fucking piece of shit. It's true. Fuck you, memes. Max, what are you going to say before that? About LSU. No, no, you had somebody say. Oh, also live. No, no, we're not. We're not doing that today. Max, what are you going to say? Quick. Nothing. No, you were saying something about LSU. I was going to say it's over. I was going to say we have a vlog coming out next week of the day. OK. And it was a great day. It was seriously one of the it was also very funny because we had a moment where we had just played a bunch of sports, done hot yoga, like hung out with friends. And we like did VR. We did the jugs machine, all this shit. And Hank was like, man, this is so much fun, like just doing all this shit. And I was like, yeah, it is. And then I stopped and I was like, wait, we do this every day. Our lives are pretty awesome. So that's not lost on us, especially on Great Week. 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There was literally a clip of you and Druski on the sideline when he's like, oh yeah, I remember you from last night. You were puking on the blackjack table. Yeah, I mean Druski's a comedian. That was that was I did not. If I was if I was puking at the blackjack table, I would have got kicked out. I did not get kicked out. He looked at you and in the video, he goes, you were fucked up. Yeah, you were fucked up, man. Was not. What's fucked up? Okay. They he got his award and on the award. It was engraved NFL defensive player of the year. That's kind of cool. Yeah, I agree. I mean, Larry Fitzgerald ended his career with more tackles than drops. People forget that he probably could have won that award. But with JSN, he he was offended by it. He's like, you guys still don't respect me. So he's probably going to get a new plaque. And in which case when he does, let me just say that JSN will take the mislabeled plaque. We are in that business and we will put it in our. It'll be the only thing in our trophy case at Barstow Sports. We are well until we get the civil conflict. We're for now, for now. Yeah, but we are our stop in Florida State yesterday was incredible because we were able to secure the banner that is Florida State number four ranking canceled season, which they actually raised and we're going to get the Florida State head coach on in a couple weeks. But yeah, we are. We're fully in on the memorabilia of things that shouldn't be memorabilia. Banners that should never exist trophies that should never been printed and troughs and troughs and piss troughs. And then my cool throw. I have a couple. First one. I don't know if we're going to talk about it or not. But by the way, with the Washington Mystics season attendance record, I've got. Oh, I'm in contact with the highest sources. That's interesting because Rico Bosco weirdly when we got the Florida State banner didn't say anything like, Hey, awesome job, cool banner. He just tweeted the Washington Mystics banner and said, I've heard that this is unattainable. Well, really, most bizarre treat of all time. I'll tell you, this Rico is not in touch with the high level sources that I'm in touch with. I think he was a little jealous that we went to a basketball facility. Well, you know what? I got I got a jumpsuit and I was going to give it to Rico, but no, see mouth off. I guess I'll just have to light it on fire. He did mouth off. I'll give him mine. My cool throw on part of my cheesesteak. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I would say so. Are we telling this? Are we? Yeah, I'll tell it because it was so the Bella check interview. Everyone should go watch, listen. Incredible interview. I think we all walked away being like that was so much fun. We want to do it again. And quick side note, touch and rich. Boston Sports Radio is shit not me for thanking Bill Belichick. Fuck that. Why wouldn't you? I don't know. Not a journalist move. I don't know how how many times you guys say we are not journalists. We will never be journalists. Not a single person in this room went to a journalism school. We don't pretend to know journalism. We barely can read. Whereas biased is possible. We will be open about our bias. We will do softball interviews if we want to. We don't care. We're here to entertain you and make you laugh. That's our job. We went to the school. We went to clown school. Yeah. Any sort of news or journalism that we actually end up doing is completely by accident. Yeah. Ask a question and somehow get a newsworthy answer. But I don't understand why they're they're upset with Hank for just being like, thank you. Thank you coach. You were glazing. You were riding on it. Yeah. We bounce it on it. Yes. Yes. Yeah. You break it off. Absolutely. And I do it again. So back to this story. So Belichick incredible interview. Awesome time at Chapel Hill. I said it on Monday, but my good friend Brandon, who is able to who works for Belichick was able to get us, you know, there and we got it all coordinated. And it was great because we they didn't say like, hey, you can't ask this. Can't do this. We we approached the interview how we wanted to approach it. We did not see Jordan Jordan at all at Chapel Hill. We were kind of upset about that because we'd like to say hello to her on Sunday night. I get a call from coach Belichick. This was like right before the interview is going to go live. And in my head, I'm like, fuck, like he's going to say that he doesn't want to. He wants to air it or so we did something wrong. Just thinking of the worst moments like just being like playing in your head like something bad's about to happen. We're not going to be able to be able to air this interview. Why would he want to call like at the last? Yeah. What what could possibly this be about? And so he calls me and everyone was in the room and he just goes, I had a great time. I just wanted to tell you I had a great time. Thank you guys for coming. But just one thing and I'm like in my head, like my life flashed before I was like, fuck, he's like, it's all going to come crashing down. He's going to be like, don't run this interview. He's like, did you guys promise Jordan cheese steaks last year? And I was like, oh, fuck, we did. We promised her an NIL deal. He's like, yeah, she said that she wants her cheese steaks. So we got to get her side. So now that's priority number one for this podcast. Yes. And she's I think going to be the only NIL athlete that we're targeting for the upcoming year. She is our queen. She's number one. We love Jordan. We will die for Jordan. Whatever she needs, she gets. We might even have to name a sandwich after or a wrap or like, I don't know, maybe some other maybe a dessert because she's very sweet. So I don't know what we're going to do, but we're going to make it work, Jordan. And yeah, thank you for holding us accountable. I'm glad that she remembered that. Yeah, no, it was I mean, what you guys were all in the room where you was going through your head, like you guys were all freaking out too. I was yeah, I was expecting like a plug to try and get pulled, which was going to be a weird back and forth. We'd already announced the interviews coming out. Like I instinctively was assuming the worst. And it was never even Belichick. He was just the same. He was like, thank you guys. That was so much fun. Really appreciate you guys coming. We need to get your daughter cheesesteaks. And I was like, yes, we do. That's actually on us. We're fucking scumbags. It was right after we released like the promo video for it. So like outlets were starting to pick it up and being like, all right, oh, Bill Belichick going to be on part of my take tomorrow, blah, blah, blah, blah. So I thought it was like, oh, he is going to be on the show. He isn't liking the amount of attention that. Yeah, right. Before it goes down. So I was like, we're fucked. Something bad is going to happen. We're going to have to scramble where we're at a bad spot. But we are fucked in a different way because we promised Jordan Cheesesteaks. We didn't deliver. That's a great guy. We did not deliver. And Jordan, you can still come on the podcast anytime. But yeah, I think that was I don't know about you guys, but I got a ton of messages being like, that was an awesome interview. Yeah, it feels good to be able to like every now and then. Like we we we've been doing it for so long that we've kind of hit like all of the white whales. There's a few still out there. Kevin Durant. But every yes, big time Kevin, right? But every now and then when we get one, it's just like, oh, fuck. Yeah, like this this is this is the secret sauce. This feels good. So I think he'll come back on. I really do. I have a ton more questions. I hope so. And yeah, with Jordan. So maybe we could sponsor her cheer team. I'm down. Code Black is the name of it. OK, we could we could figure something out. Maybe I release a stale blue coffee black. Sounds like maybe it's a mix of Code Red and Coffee. Yeah, Mountain Dew presents. Cold Black code. Coach doesn't like coffee. We thought we established that. Yeah, yeah, good point. He gets all he gets all of his energy through football. Well, such a metal quote. We'll figure that out. And and Zach had the question of the day. Yeah, the alarm clock thing. People absolutely love that sack. Yeah. Yeah, he was. He was sitting in is almost a throne of achievement because the the trophies were behind him and the rings were to the right. And it was legitimately like, I don't know, it was very overwhelming and he was a great interview. Yeah. All right. Other cool thrones. My other one was just Jaylen Brown. Yeah, he just keeps going at Stephen A. Smith, which I respect, you know, in today's day and age. Guys, I had a cool throne. Jesus, he's on the cool throne. Told him to quit. But then Stephen A. said that he's got he's got dirt. Yeah, he says that fucking come release it, dude. But then you're going to challenge that. Yeah, you want to have it. Yeah, Stephen is. Yeah, I just like to call it like fuck Stephen A. Fuck Stephen B. Fuck Stephen C. Who's Stephen C. Just fuck them all. Now, Hank, what if Stephen A. Even Coletti or B or C. Listen to this podcast right now and is like, wow, Hank's talking tough. I'm going to release it and then it blows up the Celtics. That's not going to happen. OK. All right. So listen, when I get laughed at when I call out the aliens, you're like, don't do that. Don't don't don't poke the aliens. You're poking Stephen A. Oh, OK. All right. Fine. Well, someone please send this to Stephen A. Perk also said that he had some he had some evidence. He had Perk is a fucking hater. Perk or they kicked Perk out of the facilities years ago. Well, I'll say in better ever sense. I'm saying is a Perk said that he has text from people around the Celtics organization that keep texting them whenever whenever Jalen Brown goes live. No one in the organization likes Perk. OK, Perk alienated himself years ago because of his hate of Jalen Brown. So you're so much alive. He's like he's he's he's dug his feet in the sand and he's keeping those feet. Are you are you saying he's a liar? Dug in the sand. What if Jalen Brown gets traded? Are you backing on Perk? No. OK. I don't dislike Perk, but it sounds like you do. Yeah, he's he's been on the outside looking in since whatever was 2022. So Perk and Stephen A. Hank's talking mad shit. Yeah, he said be careful what you wish for. He's going out. He's looking through the endorsements. He's going into the locker room. He's going to dig. Are you worried about what to come out of a huge deal with Oakley? Which was again, Stephen A's big thing like you don't want you. Sponsors don't like you. And then it's like he signed this big deal with Oakley. So not worried about what could come out now. OK. All right. Fair care of the hell on. Yeah. My hot seat is friendship. Yeah, people being best friends. Yeah. Max. Yeah, I had this too. A.J. Brown, he got married. And I think Laguna Beach, you're going to get you're going to fall for fake news right now. This is fake news. I haven't seen it. I haven't said anything. This is fake news. That was not on my house. I haven't said anything. Jail Exxon. Wait, wait, wait, wait, let me finish. Let him finish. Let him finish. Let him finish. Let him finish. Keep going. OK. OK. Why wasn't Jalen Jalen Hurts said? Jalen Hurts was not at the wedding. Oh, yeah. That's what I'm saying. Oh, well, the first report was that no Eagles player. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm saying is everything OK between A.J. Brown and Jalen Hurts because Jalen Hurts was was not invited to his wedding. And the rumor on the street is that we don't know that Jalen Hurts not confirmed that he wasn't invited is not confirmed. It's just that he did not attend. Well, the story that I read, wait, the story that I read was that Jalen Hurts invited he was invited to A.J. Brown's engagement party, but he decided not to go because it was the night of the Met Gala. And so A.J. was then like, fine, then you're not coming to my wedding. Last year's Met Gala. They engage in party and then a wedding two weeks. No, possibly last year's Met Gala. It also could not be a real story. But but the real story is that that A.J. Brown did not have his quarterback at his wedding. Well, A.J. Brown is no longer a member of the. That's not going to be true. Not true. Wrong. Don't do this. Correct. If you do that too early, then how he's not going to be able to negotiate. Yeah, you're right. What you're doing right now, you're you're tanking his price. There's so many. There's so many shooters out there. Listen, I said the whole thing about us not going to journalism school or know what journalism is or reading books, but we are all representatives of our respective teams. So you you are now saying that he's not a member of the team like everyone's like, oh, cool, like how to hear the third rounder. He's already off the team. No, it starts with the first. But not anymore because you just said he's off the team. You just killed all your leverage, dude. They might not even need to trade anything because you said that he's gone. Yeah, I might just be able to pick him up on waivers off the street. I'm too tired for this for this bit right now. Well, what you did was so he is factually on the team. There's a chance that he's not traded. Oh, my God. He just did minion voices. Yeah, there's a there's a chance that he's not traded, Max. So I don't know. I would like my wide receiver to invite my quarterback to his wedding. Do you think he was invited and turned it down? Because we would like to I'd like to say right now that Pia today will not be a Max's wedding. So shout out Hank, but I'm going to get on these cool drones. But I'm getting him a nice present. And we all were at his bachelor party. Mm hmm. So that counts, which is way better, way better than a wedding. Mm hmm. Rude, very rude. Why? Why? It's a fact. I mean, thanks. Thanks, Hank. No problem. I wanted to I turned it down to go to the Met Gala. I'm going shopping for my clothes for the Met Gala, so I can't make it. OK. Then my cool throne is bitter rivalries. Oh, bitter rivalries. So Alcatraz, the tennis player, he's been injured for a while now. And he fired off the maybe the wildest Instagram story that I've seen in a while in terms of like for an audience of one person. So the rivalry in tennis is Alcatraz center. Right. Look at this Instagram post that he just dropped the other day. This is from Alcatraz. This is from Alcatraz. He says, I watched the final from home with ice on my wrist. Every time my phone vibrates, it's your name again. Another trophy, another Sunday, you make history like it's a normal thing. Nine Masters trophies already crazy. Sometimes I think you win too much when I'm not there. Tennis feels weird when I'm not looking at you across the net between points. What the fuck? Tour is too quiet without our matches. I miss this feeling. Walking on court knowing you were on the other side waiting for war. Rehab is hard because my body rests, but my mind still want to chase you. Every match you win make me want to come back faster. Enjoy this moment. Really, you deserve everything you are living now. But don't forget I'm coming back soon. And I think we both know the best matches still didn't happen yet. I come back soon and I hope you are still waiting there. Bob Moss, these guys want to fuck. This is a low rivalry. These guys are going to fuck. If they haven't fucked already, they respect each other so much as competitors and as rivals, they are going to fuck each other. It's not even a question. Like this is a mutual respect. Yeah, yeah, not like I don't think this is gay at all. No, no, no, no. It would be just like, you know, like I respect you so much. We've fought so many battles on the court. It's almost like fucking myself. It would be improper for us not to make love. Yeah. Yeah, just for for the vibes and also like it's pretty much masturbation. Well, yeah, and it's it's basically they're saying we're we're almost sacrificing our bodies for this rivalry, both physically and sexually. Yeah, we have to do this. This is in fact like if we don't do this, I think that's a disgrace to the sport. Correct. To the game that we've put so many hours in. Correct. Do you think they would fuck on grass or on clay? Hard court. Hard court. Yeah, it gets scrappy. I would get scrappy. That would get scrappy. But yeah, Carlos Alcatraz. Listen, I like the rivalry because they've given us like the only tennis matches that I've cared about within the last five years. I think it just got taken up a notch with this post. Yeah. And it's awesome to know that he's at home watching him like feeling a mix of almost anger that he's not there, but also like intense, intense eroticism. Yes. Watching him win. Big time. What do you think, Zach? I think it's a competition. They're so competitive that it's like I'll take your body on the court and, you know, as two dudes do, as tennis pros, possibly in the bedroom now, because that was that that that was a poem. I felt like a romance novel. Yeah, maybe a poem. You know what? They're so evenly matched and in tennis, you know what you call a tie? Love. How about that? That's good. How about the PFT just low key snap there? That's good. That's beautiful. It's beautiful. That's uncharted territory that you just start fucking your competitors. Yeah. But also, but also like you're fucking your competitor, but he's also fucking you. Yeah, because it's like so easy. Maybe 69. Yeah, so. OK, is that it? Yeah. Yeah, my my hot seat is anyone who thought they had plans for life after death in terms of like, hey, are they going to cremated? Are they going to get buried? Because I stumbled upon this. This was a I found it on Twitter, but it was a Reddit post about what a guy wants his wife to do for him after he dies. And this is the most metal thing ever that we all I think we all should agree to this right now. So this is this is the wife writing. She says, my husband has some disturbing requests for after he's passed away. This one is really bizarre and I'm sorry ahead of time. My husband of 12 years has some medical problems recently. The topic about end of life plans came up and I asked if he wanted to be buried. He didn't want that, nor did he want to be cremated. My husband wants me to have his skull taken from his body and cleaned. Then he wants the skull put on the mantelpiece in the living room. The rest of his body he wants sent to one of those places that makes the gems out of bodies and made into two blue diamonds. He then wants those gems to be put in the eye socket of the skull to look like eyes. Then he can watch the family home and be passed down through generations. What the fuck? That's awesome. Imagine dad just sitting there, skull like a mantle piece. Elf on a shelf. Yeah. It's your dad. Yeah. Oh, I think you got to do this just to haunt your family. I respect it. They wouldn't fuck around. He might be a supervillain. Yeah, true. But also pretty bad ass. You feel like are you going to are you going to deny this man's wishes? I guess you could just be like he's already dead. But what if you like start to get away with stuff? Then like you lose the power that your dad has over you. Yeah, you lose all the fear that you might have. True. Or like something bad happens. Like I thought you were watching over us, dad. Yeah, I think in order to really pull this off, first you have to fake your own death and then do like a dummy head. And then when the kid screws up, then the dad like secretly. Yeah, with a nanny cam. Yeah. Yeah, like the bear with the nanny cam. Yeah, it gets revenge on him and then on creepy way. And not your after your fake death, like in a normal way. Yeah. In a normal way, you got to fake die. Yeah. Move states, then in plants, nanny cam into your old house and watch your kids, but only interjects every now and then. I think it would be like if you are going to die soon, then you you're like, I got to move out of the state for a while. Yeah, and then mess with them. And then when you really die, then the power still stays in your kids. Right. They're like, oh, he's still there. He is in the teddy bear. Yeah. OK, my cool throne. I got to one is we talked about a little bit on Monday, but more details came out. My cool throne is PCA because people were getting upset because the video came out of him telling the woman, the White Sox fan to suck his dick. And I have no problem with it. Anyone who has a problem with it doesn't respect rivalries and sports. And like it's also we've gotten to a weird point where I feel like fans feel like they can just say whatever. And then and then if a player says something back like, oh, how could you say that? No, fuck that. If you talk shit to a player in earshot, the player should be able to talk shit back to you. I actually respect that. I respect a player talking back shit back to a fan far more than like the LeBron's or Rory's where they just get fans kicked out. I don't think that PCA like I don't think that the two of them, the woman or PCA, left that exchange still upset at the other. I think they left that exchange being like good banter. And again, PCA is a he's a lightning rod type of guy and that's great for sports. I'm happy he's on the Cubs. Other teams fucking hate him, which I that's fine. That's great. That like he bothers other people. And in like when he doesn't do well, they love to shit on him, which and then when he does great, I love to praise him. So it's part of sports. It's part of rivalry, part of talking shit. I love it. I think it's there is no harm, no foul. And I also just think that if you talk, if you are going to say whatever you want, like you're going to fly off the handle against a player in earshot and they turn around and talk shit back to you, you should just be like, Hey, guess what? All's fair. That's way better than the Rory kicking the guy out. Way better. I agree. Rory should have turned around and been like, fuck you. I won the Ryder Cup in your face. What do you say, Max? I did that. This once is a 10 year old in Little League. You did. You told a guy to suck your dick. Well, I was playing, no, I was playing right field and there was a family member of the other team that was heckling me as I was trying to catch it. And I turned around and just flipped the bird off as a 10 year old. And it was a big deal. That's trouble. That's good sports town. Like the heckling a 10 year old little league. Yeah. Devon Stratford versus Burwin-Payley Little League. Big rivalry. You got trouble for him. I didn't get thrown out of the game. I did get my I just started talking to from my parents for sure, though. And now you don't swear at all anymore. So it works. I didn't swear. I just I just I just gave the finger. But I was 10 years old. So that that was a little alarming at the time. So yes, I'm pro this. Yes. Yeah, I think we all are. Yeah, pro this. And to the people that are saying like the the woman that did it is now like crying about and playing victim. I don't think that she is at all. I think that like again, it was like they stepped out of the ring like two boxes that just went, you know, they went they went 10 rounds against each other. It was a decision. And then she walks away. They'll meet each other again. This is a perfect litmus test of like, do I do I like you as a person? Would I want to hang out with you as a person? If you watch this interaction and your reaction is that's classless. How dare he? I don't want to be your friend. If you watch this interaction, you're like, yeah, it's sports. That's fucking funny. They're going back and forth to each other. That that gave the woman a story for the rest of her life. Yeah. There you go. So all all's fair. And then my other cool throne is a Vinny Woodhead, too. Absolute beasts. So we've talked about it, but Vanity Woodhead one was a complete, which was dead and then came back alive because Billy never jumped it. Was a death trap was not it was was on its last legs. We've retired it. We actually crushed it in metal and made it an art installation in our office, which is pretty sick. Whoever set that up. I had bought. I bought. Bought. Bought. Six AM. You know, I bought it. I bought it. I bought Vinny Woodhead, too. I think it was like last late last summer and from late last summer until yesterday, it had driven maybe 15 miles. We had not used it. It was just kind of on the sideline waiting yesterday. We just threw it in the fire. Six hundred miles one day. Vinny Woodhead, too. Just an absolute champ. And it's got some nice. It's comfortable. It looks exactly like Vinny Woodhead one. The only quirks we have is when you there's a couple of one is the dashboard just went blank in the middle of the drive. That happened sometimes. So that was fine. That's probably when we got the hour back. Yeah, that's when we got the hour back. The other was if I if I floor it, the AC turns off. Also fine because it's actually nice. You just get like a little break from the AC and then it blasts back on. When it comes back on, it actually feels better because it's like you get to experience the heat for a second and then the cold feels even cold. Right. It's like it's like a turbo AC. And then the speedometer is like just not correct, but that doesn't matter. I was just I was going fast. We were going fast and it held up. So shout out Vinny Woodhead, too. It was actually very comfortable, too. Yeah, it was a great time. In fact, it was so great. Great drive. Shut up. Some of us fell asleep. Yeah, that's how comfortable it is. You want to say sorry? Sorry for for saying I was. I mean, Hank, Hank, this is this is this is. Well, OK, you know, between between Hank and Max calling fake news before anything's been said. Yeah, you guys got to let let let us speak before you judge for making a joke and you not being able to take a joke. Well, I'm sorry. Wait, wait, wait, wait. This sounds like a fair apology. Let's hear it out. Yeah. Let's let's set the stage real quick. We were the car for 10 hours. Hank had slept and played golf in the back. I mean, I would have driven you like never let anyone else try. I'm not saying I'm not saying that, but I'm not saying that. What else am I supposed to do? Not say you suck at driving. That OK, we were driving for 10 hours. It was loopy. I was loopy. I was we were messing around. I made what I thought was a very obvious joke. I forget what you even said, but I was like, yeah, but you suck at driving, which again was I thought very obviously. But again, it was also it was also like 500 miles and then you got in your fields and we're like, no, I didn't. You said that I'm actually mad. Then today you're like, I'm actually mad. You said that. No, you said I'm actually mad. I'm actually mad that you were pretending you didn't say it. Well, then again, the camera went on and I again thought we were just busting balls. The camera went on. I was like, Big Cat, you did such a good job. Yeah, you're actually getting really mad. And then when you have your vlog, that one came on. I was like, I'd want to put out. Yeah, you can do whatever you want. I was again, I'm sorry. I'm sorry for making a joke and you not being able to take it. You're such a piece of shit. So Hank, what I like it to is Hank is a spoiled little kid who sits in the back of the car, sleeps, plays video games, watches his iPad. And then in the last five minutes of the drive is like, are we fucking there? What? And like complaints and like, that's what he does. So he did it for the biggest drive. It's like what like you would have driven. I would have driven. No. You I don't think you want to. I've driven the RV across the country multiple times. Yeah, you wouldn't just like 11 years ago. And also, I think that you would have rather played golf on your video game. Yeah, in the back. It was my video game. Playing in the back seat. Whatever. I again, I'm sorry. We had a great time. No more jokes. Hank, how don't do that. Hey, Hank is the buddy that goes to bed. He gets like really, really drunk and he falls asleep at like 9 30 at night. And then everyone else goes out, has a great time. And then we wake up in the morning and everyone's super hung over at 10. You're like, come on, why aren't we drinking yet? Because you got a full night's sleep. That's what it felt like when we got into Baton Rouge last night. We were on our last legs. We were tired. We're also at the point of Great Week, where we're just yelling at each other for facts. We've spent we've spent too much. We're also at the point of Great Week, where we're getting easily duped by fake stories because that tennis thing came from a tennis central account. I know that it has a central. So we did that entire thing. Oh, no, P.F.T. I didn't know that there was a tennis central. What can I say? So what happened was I absent my you are over. I bookmarked your over Q2. I bookmarked it last night. What else have I screwed up? Hank, tell me, pray tell birthdays. I mean, here we go with the birthdays. The list goes on. The stats is is now keeping a list of every birthday that you get wrong, which is very nice. Both that there's a six billion people whose birthdays I miss every year. Hey, guys, I accept your apology. OK, thank you. I'm sorry. I'm not actually mad. I was very tired at the end of that ride. That was a long ass day. Yeah, it was a good trip. Yeah. Also, I agree. I should have let you drive, but I was very excited to drive. Vanny, I spent a lot of money on that van and we never used it. So I was pumped. They fucking drives well. Yeah, no, it's it's it is the exact same van as that's Vanny one. Yeah, it's nice. I didn't think we'd be passing cars at ease. But when you needed to go around, it was ready for the occasion. And I went I went no tweets. It was full. Just slingshot. The only two tweets were when we stopped for gas. I talked to Big Cap before we hit the road. And I was like, Big Cat, if you want to use your phone, I'm going to drive. We're not going to take Vanny on I-10 and have you scroll on the entire time. And I felt safe. I felt safe without big Hank Hank on Twitter. Safe. I felt I. I was sorry. I accept your apology. I'm sorry. I accept. I was so safe. I fell asleep. If I didn't feel safe like a long time, I was like sitting there clutch, you know, clutching both both armrests. Well, Zach was having to deal with the fact that you put your toes in his fucking ears because you were on troll mode. That was a lame move. You were doing that. Yeah, he was a little he's like he got in a six year old mood. Loopy. Yeah. Slash your phone died. Yes. Let's just admit that your phone died and then you're like, I'm going to fuck with my phone died. I got a sugar high. Let's just admit your phone died with in hour nine of 10 on the road. And you're like, I'm going to spend the last hour just fucking with everyone. Yes. OK. Obviously. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. OK, Zach. But that was obvious. My my cool throwing or my hot seat this week is going to be guys who don't like contact because Kim's back. Kim's got to be saying week one return against the Cowboys. So OK, broken phobia ankle this way. But he's saying, look, boys, I'm back. He said the hardest hurdle was the the mental game of like being able to trust it again. So OK, we're getting full full contact running backs that hell. And I'm excited. He's just a lot of fun to watch. That is. Yeah. Fun to watch. Yeah. Are the giants a team I'm going to sell myself on mentally? You did last year. I know I did. That was really stupid. Maybe you really the Sunday night football week one just screams. Everyone's going to get excited for that game. And it could just be like a. I think that horrible changes it. That is true. Horrible is true. Mm hmm. When it's almost coming back, that's the question. He got another knee scope. Although we never mind. What you got another knee scope. You have to charge your same knee. I think so. What would you say? What is it? The charger still stank. The chargers do not stink. Chargers. That seemed like an out of the blue shot. Why was it? Why? What was because because we said the same thing about Harbaugh going to the Chargers Chargers are going to be the chargers team. The Chargers have turned it around. Harbaugh got him to the play. What are you trying to play off? Ever their old playoff team, like two out of three years, and they lost their entire offensive line last year and somehow got there. Do you remember what they were like before Harbaugh got there? Why is that point made in the playoffs? This is crazy. Yeah, this is crazy. Chargers. I think you're just thinking they lost. They lost. So they must not be any good. I'm just thinking anti giants right now. I would absolutely. If you if you ask any Chargers fan, has the Harbaugh era been a success so far? You resounding. Yes. Resounding. Yes. They were dog shit with Justin Herbert. And like they had. What are you talking about? They had a 27 point lead in the playoffs. Yeah, that was bad. Yeah, a couple years ago. Yeah, but then Brandon Staley. They just get a pass because they're the Chargers. No, no, no. Remember Brandon Staley? Remember the game against the Raiders? The worst game ever played when they lost by 700. Remember Easton Stick? Yeah, like they were a joke. That last year they were very bad. Yeah, and Harbaugh came in and cleaned that shit up. And then if for Sean Slater and Joe Alt, don't get hurt. Maybe it's different story. Maybe they know Justin Herbert probably still lose the first. Has he won? He has won a game. No, no. He throws a lot of exceptions in the playoffs tends to. That was quite. Hey, we're having a bad. Shade, we had your back. We did have your back. I think I think we realized he had one to play with Max was saying was like the only thing he remembers is that Poon afford left the team. So he's like, oh, they must be bad now. How do the Chargers even like come this equation? That was kind of crazy. The Chargers got up. Well, yeah, I was just thinking like all the Harbaugh's just like the Harbaugh's aren't good. Is that what you're thinking? No, I'm because it's more so coping of like, oh, yeah, the Giants could be a threat now. Harbaugh is there. And then I really thought about it. I was like, I actually thought the Chargers were going to be a threat. The Chargers aren't a threat. Chargers had the fifth pick and their defense gave up 35 points a game the year before Harbaugh. OK, then we won 11 games. You went to play. They're still not like a. They still can't want to play off game. Because facts and he's got you there. Didn't they acquire some pieces on the offensive line? So maybe not so many sacks. Is it? Do that hopefully health. And then we got a Beattish and then we drafted a fucking center's never played gardeners left to play guard. So who knows, but that was a lot of charges. Well, you know what? You know what? With Shane's preview, Max might be right. I saw Shane. PFC, you saw us. We fucking jumped down Max's throat there. Then we kind of got some clarity and we're like, ah, he's kind of making some good points. You talked to us out of Shane talked us out of our rabbit defense. We were ready to go. And then we realized that he's kind of right. You guys will probably be healthy this year, though. Yeah. Thing I love about Shane is like this, that this exchange actually bummed him out hard. Yeah. Yeah. We've been together too long. OK, and then my cool thing today is going to be a SGA because not only did it, did SGA when it would be again. He also blessed the entire team back to back years. I got the guys and gift bags. I saw some customizable golf bags, some trench. I never seen a trench coat move before. That's kind of pretty quick. That was quite the gift. OK. But they did it as a team and then also got the boys some timepiece situations on there again. Yeah, watch this game. But he went on AP offshore and AP Royal Oaks. Mostly AP off shores. Lot of. I think it's still not in. Why do people sit on the offshore? What are you guys talking about? So like watches. Oh, I'm not a watch guy. Max is a watch guy. He's on watch. Check dog. They were officially AP offshore. So it's like a dive watch or like you go out like deep, deep sea with it. It's got like more waterproof or how deep does it go? Things like that. These amount of meters. What? These amount of meters. How many? Top of my head, I don't have that. But I do know that. I would get 300. All right. Well, you're dead after 120. I learned that. Oh, so the Maldives. None of those guys are going to 120. Yeah, no, no one's. It's bullshit. They're selling watches that go that deep when no human goes that deep. No need for time at AD. The trench coat gift. If you give Chet home-grin a trench coat, it must be impossible for him to walk around without everybody thinking that it's three kids inside there. Yes. No, did you see what the trench coat looked on Chet? No. It was just the most normal looking jacket. Oh, really? Yeah. Yeah. Because if I see him, I'm like, there's two kids under there. You're sneaking into a movie. And there's a lot of people online also seeing that a S&M might have got banged by the jeweler because they off the bunch of those offshores instead of the Royal Oaks to them. So they're moving inventory maybe on SGA. OK. What do they call watch TikTok? Watch talk? Just TikTok. TikTok, TikTok. TikTok squared. TikTok. Took me a while to get there. I got there. Yep. No, just think about it. Yeah, TikTok. TikTok, TikTok. Yeah, that's good. That's good. All right, should we get to our interviews? We're laying kiffin in Blake Bortles. By the way, we should just say the Blake Bortles interview, I think is so bad it's good. It was 7,000 degrees in Vanny. And also, we're all at Blake Bortles. Blake Bortles would come on any time. If you're expecting us to have a long nuanced conversation with Blake Bortles, this is not the interview for you. But we had just finished working construction. Yeah. I mean, I think it's funny, but it's also like, you're going to listen to it and be like, what just happened? I think the van was probably 130 degrees. It was so bad. Yeah, before we get to coach Lane Kiffin, he's brought to you by our great friends over at Chevy. It's Grit Week, and it's the part of the football calendar where nobody's watching, but everything gets built. Early mornings, pads back on, conditioning, film, reps, spring training and football is all about putting in the work when nobody's cheering yet. Check out the current offers. Build your Silverado at Chevy.com. Check it out. Check out the Silverado at Chevy.com. And now, here is LSU head football coach, Lane Kiffin. OK, we now welcome on a very, very, very, very, very, very special guest. It is LSU head coach, Lane Kiffin, in his office. And it's Grit Week presented by Chevy. So coach, we got a lot to talk about because we spent the whole day with you. But the first question is always on Grit Week. What does the word grit mean to you? The ability to keep going like when it gets tough, and you just feel like, yeah, I'm not sure. Just the grind of it, the grit down. We experienced it today. Yes. Some of your casts this morning. Multiple times. There were so many times you and I just looked at each other when they were laying down and they were quitting. And we didn't say it, but I just knew we were basically saying grit to each other. Yeah. And we kept going. Well, I was also constantly saying finish strong, because I was hoping that I could gaslight the yoga instructor into being like, all right, that was it. It didn't work. Didn't work. I did have, there's a mirror in the front. So some of the people afterwards, later in the day, they were like, do you realize he kept yelling like, come on, finish guys, finish guys. But you were just laying there. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Every time I was going to say it was not moondid. If there was a mirror that they were like, man, this guy in the back, man, he just freaking grinded it. I realized. He's got grit. Yeah. So we did the hot yoga with you at 6 AM. My theory was every time I started to get tired, I would just hold my fours up. Yeah. About a fourth quarter. Even if it was like a third of the way through, a quarter of the way through. If you just put your fours up, you feel like it's the end. So you can give yourself that last push. Yeah. But it wasn't it wasn't hot yoga. You told us we're going to go for hot yoga. It was the first thing that happens when we walk in, like go grab 20 pound dumbbells. And I'm just doing like hang cleans and Olympic weight lifting in sauna 10 minutes in. I was like, I didn't sign up for this, but we did it. We graded our way through it. I can't believe you do it every day. That's so stupid. Every day. That's so dumb. No matter what. Every single day. Non-negotiable. Non-negotiable. Can we negotiate that a little bit? No. Like what if what if you had a coach that you were trying to hire and you're like non-negotiable, we got to do yoga every day. He's like, I can't do that. Not every day. No, just for me. I get to kids school. Just for you. Yeah. I make now in life, I just make non-negotiables. Like it doesn't matter no matter what. And then I don't ever have to talk to myself. I don't ever have to like go, am I going to? Am I going to get up or am I not? That's smart. Am I going to eat this or not? How many are going to drink this or not? If it's just a non-negotiable, it's not even a conversation. So what are the other non-negotiable? No bread. Ever. Ever. This is crazy. OK. You don't need sandwiches. No alcohol? Nope. All right. Wait, no bread. Can we go back to that? OK. I'm going to just say it. I think that makes you less of a football coach. OK. Because I just think that like part of being a football coach, you got to get strength from carbs and you're just not doing that. OK. Then you're really not going to like the next one because there's no alcohol. OK. That's fine. I get that. That's fine. Yeah. It's not Ditka beer. No, but listen, I mean, people stop drinking all the time. Like it's good for you. Football coach, like you need beer. Yeah. OK. So what else? Beer, bread, pasta. You need those things. And then every day, no matter what, no matter where you are, you're getting up and finding a workout. So workout, you're not saying hot yoga. Because if you could do the same one here. Right. But if I'm out of town, it usually is the same thing. OK. We just find a studio. OK. I did notice that more than a few times, I would say probably like six or seven times during the workout, you would get up and you would talk to one of your guys that was in there. Yeah. And I was wondering to myself, like, do you get ideas while you're working out in the morning? Sometimes, but usually if it's a little slower, yeah. But usually a lot of times I'm just going over. Like it's kind of like a team. Like if I should have talked to you guys before. First off, there's no yoga in it for the most part. Yes. We just years ago, it started as yoga. Years ago, probably five, six years ago in Oxford. Started in the hot yoga studio. It was all yoga. And then it transformed. So people were like, man, we want some more. You know, like then it turned into this like hit class. Like then it was weights and it was cardio. And then at the end it was just like, all right, fuck it. Like put it all together and just make the hardest shit and the hottest shit that you can. You did that. And that's what it became. Yeah. You did something very mean to me, which was right at the start, you moved me over a little bit and you had this young lady come work out right next to me. And then you're like, yeah, she's a four time NCAA champion, gymnast. Yeah. Enjoy. And then I just sweat on this poor girl's math. I do apologize. She kicked her ass. Five times too. I was like, I'm sorry. I don't mean to be. I'm a slob. Listen, I think less of myself than you think of me. So let me just beat myself up. But she was just kicking my ass at this work out the entire time. I don't know if you were doing that to test me or just because you wanted me to get my ass kicked by a girl. But it was a great way to start the day. I had a blast. What? What was a couple of reasons in there? One, like if you put greatness around you, then it just brings you up. So she's like the most decorated gymnast in the history of the school. One in the history of all of colleges, Hailey Bryant. So she comes to class. So I put her there, figured like, OK, if I put her next to you, it's going to bring you up. Here's the greatest of what she's ever at doing it. Plus, you guys were all back, got in and we were like, oh, like back tight like this. And it was like kind of six dudes. Yeah. It's kind of like the movie theater thing. That's what we wanted. We put a space between each other, though. So it was like, all right, let's spread out a little bit here. It was to be between us. Put something between us. Didn't really know you yet. Yeah. And who was the coach who kept on yelling for us to take off our shirts? That was weird. Yeah, because I literally, I like he said it like three or four times to me, Zach and Max. And I just at one point turned around and I was just like, dude, we're not taking off our shirts. Like they're not coming off. We'll die in here. So that was listen, I credit to you for getting up and doing that. I actually I don't know if you saw, but I retired from hot yoga around 9am this morning. He told him. Thank you. I will never be back. I want to walk at my kids graduation, so I'm not going to be doing hot yoga ever again. But I walk around like that because you start to like become a team in it. So it's like you against her against the instructor. I should have told you guys that before, like kind of like you got to get in like, hey, we don't like her. Yeah, we're not going to let her beat us no matter what. I did not like her. Yeah. No, I hated her. She walked in and I'm like, OK, there's an instructor. You're like, oh, yeah, I was like this. I mean, she's like, yeah, she was she was a problem. She was also very good at identifying when we were trying to like lay low and not necessarily do all the work. I used to be really good at that back in the day. Like if it was basketball practice, football practice, I could tell when the coach wasn't looking. So I would like slack off a little bit. She she had eyes everywhere in that room and she would call you out. And that's one of the I in my opinion, that's a that's a bummer about modern football. It's like guys like me, we can't get away with that practice anymore. You put chips in our shoulder pads and you look at everything now. Yeah, too many cameras, too many angles. Yeah, for football players, but in there, she gets because of the mirror, too. So even when she's looking that way, she sees in the mirror to see us. You know, but we were bonding there. Yeah, it was good. Back row. It was good. All right. So I do realize the back row is actually cooler. 10 degrees more than the front. So we're actually in the easier spot. Oh, yeah, there was a there was a moment where there was a door behind Zach and I and there was I think someone had put like a towel or something underneath the door. And I started ripping at the towel to get a small draft going to our heads because I was like a prisoner is trying to escape. So it was tough. It was so as fate. Like so when someone walked out, you know, in that door open, he's like, yeah, thank you, God, breathing in there. I did. I put my face towards it. I was like, give me more of that. Give me. But honestly, it was a good workout. I was telling the guys, I know that big cat retired. I'm going to get into doing yoga. I feel like that's I retired from running. I retired from a lot of stuff. But I feel like yoga might be a good thing to add to my repertoire. So you but do you miss doing the yoga now that you've switched over to doing more of the cardio high intense stuff? I do. Now, on Sunday, it'll be a lot more yoga, you know, kind of like recovery day. And so I do like that. I do like that you change up and you go back to that because that's very non football. Yeah. But that really like gets you breathing, gets you kind of out of all the other stuff, you know, and you got to you got to stay in really uncomfortable things, which I tell the guys, that's why I like bringing our coaches, you know, like you stay in really uncomfortable things in the heat. And that's life. That's here. That's definitely that in Rouge, too. Well, yeah, it's always hot. Yeah, it is life. But it's so simple here outside. Yeah. All right. So I want to play a game with you. It's it's called Good Average Bad. So you got to grade yourself. And actually, the first thing is hot yoga. Good Average Bad. What are how are you at those? Good. OK. Football coaching. Good. Breakups. Bad. Yeah, really bad coach. You're really bad at breakups. Yeah, they're like actually the worst of all time. Yeah, they need to go. Well, it'll be a good run. How how are you doing after your breakup? Because do you know, do you feel how much the internet kind of hates you right now? Yeah, you do. Yeah. OK. Yeah, I've been off for like a week. It was good. Yeah. You know, I was like, hey, let me just see what this like here, you know, to like remove myself a little bit. So I've actually been off for probably a week. Yeah, for the first time ever. Is do you are you obviously you guys start the season in Clemson, but you play almost week three. Is that already kind of circled in your head like, OK, this is going to be serious. Like there's a lot of animosity back and forth. Yeah, that was already there. Yeah. That was I felt that at the airport when we left that. Yeah. You know, yeah. So I've always known that was going to be there. Yeah, the airport scene was quite something. Yeah. Yeah. We go ahead. I was going to say before you left at the airport, like whose call was it to get Marty Smith to like drive a minivan on to the tarmac before and like one last thing before I leave. Let me get Marty out here in front of the plane. That was not mine. Marty was like, it was like Scooby-Doo like in the in the minivan like that, you know, like the Shaggy van, whatever it was, like he's like driving, driving by. He's like, I got to get this interview, whatever. I'm like, he called me because he was waiting at the airport. You know, like knowing we had to leave through the airport, so he's going to try to get me there. And he like called me. It's like, I don't think you're going to be getting through this airport here, buddy. Yeah, it was some. So like, obviously, it's all the dust has settled somewhat, but it was chaotic. You were you had essentially taken, you know, hostage of the internet in this college football world for a week there. And, you know, this happened maybe a couple of other times in your career. Would you say would it be fair to characterize you as a messy bitch? Messy endings, that's for sure. What's really crazy about the thing is my endings in my control, obviously you get fired and I control, but the two times were, you know, the Tennessee and the Ole Miss leaving, I was I thought I was trying to do right things, right? Right. And obviously they didn't go very well. Yeah. So it's hard. I mean, it's hard. I will say that it's hard, especially if you're especially in the middle of the season, when you have a college playoff team, like that's a very difficult thing to navigate. I don't know what the right answer is, you know, it's kind of. Yeah. What would be if you could go back and do it differently, would you do it any differently? Yeah, I think I would have just came in and said, OK, I'm leaving. I'm very appreciative of everything. You know, I spent a lot of time right there fighting to coach the team, you know, trying to keep everything together. Totally respect their decision. You know, they're like, for that not to happen, I get it. But I was trying so hard to keep that together. Like, hey, let us all coach, let this whole thing, you know, let's see if we can go in the whole thing. And so obviously that didn't happen that way, which then created a lot of it because that was the whole night and morning of that and then what's going to happen and then the team meeting move back and all the things that went with it. And then you couldn't have a normal team meeting because of that time. And, you know, got into all that and then, you know, naming of Golding of the head coach. And so I mean, I don't know how much it would have saved. Right. Just going in and saying, instead of trying to say, hey, I really want to coach you. Hey, I'm not coaching. I'm taking the job and I'm appreciative. But I think you still would. You definitely would have had the airport scene and all that. But as tough as that is on so many parts from on them, on me, on walking with a 12 year old nephew that they're yelling at, all that stuff. That also speaks to the SEC. Oh, where else does that happen? Definitely that the people that for six years loved you, want to build a statue, chant for you at the last game to stay. And then they hate you like that. Yeah. And then you land whatever that is, probably 45 minute flight. And then you land here in the people here that when we would play here, we're yelling at me, hate me and saying everything I did was horrible. We love you. Yeah. That's also the beauty of the. Yeah. No, I agree. I mean, like Ole Miss fans who are upset, still upset. Like I'm like, that's sports. You have every right to be like that. You know what I mean? It's that's just people live and die with their teams. And so when things happen, they're going to get emotional. That's what makes sports great is fans being that invested. Yeah. I think you saw it obviously. You knew it, but you saw it even more so during the whole thing. Yeah. I think there's some parts that are kind of funny when you experience you're going through like, like you said, that's SEC fans and the passion of it. And everything that you were doing there, they embraced at the time because you're theirs. Man, this is great, man. Our coach does yoga, you know, right? He's on social media all the time and he trolls the other fans. We love what he does. And then you leave and they were like, we hate him. He does yoga. Right. He trolls all the time. Right. And then the new ones here that hated it are like, we loved it. Our coach does yoga. We love that he trolls. That's a football guy. And then I love running into people and you run into people here and they're like, Coach, I've always been wanting you. Yeah. You've been my guy all along. I've always appreciated you. And like I used to be certain. You were yelling at me in this tunnel the one time I left Tiger Stadium. Yeah. It's interesting because like you were put, then it was a very weird situation this postseason where Ole Miss was on a little run and then you were getting compensated by Ole Miss, but you were the coach of a rival team. And it felt like Ole Miss's, their fans didn't want you to be happy with any success that Ole Miss was having. So like, what was that like for you personally watching that team play? Yeah, that was really hard. And I didn't care less. I know this probably says about the finance. I didn't even know that was in a contract. You know that if they won, then I was getting paid through here, you know, like I actually didn't even know that until I read about it. I know that sounds crazy. So you get that money away. I'm going to call bullshit on them. No, I really didn't. They put all that's that's Jimmy Sexton. OK. And the stuff that you did in there. You should get the money away. I'm putting it over. Yeah, give us the money. Yeah, we'll take it. Actually, when I read it, I called him and like, wait, I don't understand. He's like, well, you know, we put it in there because if you stayed, you were going to get that. Right. So the new place took you, they're going to pay you it to come. You should probably pay us for what we did to you on the softball diamond today. That's that's valid. I think that's fair compensation. I shall. But you know, I really don't. I really don't understand how as we went to put together teams and I learned about this softball game today in that you have a real team. Yes, we have played a lot before. We have. You're undefeated. Yes. This was not our full team. But yes. OK. But you are undefeated. And I don't know anything about this. And then we're going to play. So you guys take Sawyer, our best player. And all right, Sawyer, let's go put together our teams. Like, yeah, put together your team. What do you mean you put together right? He's like, I'm on the other team. Yeah. But you said he loves us on the field. You were you were saying you were telling Sawyer he was over five today. He was. So that's five time we had five hours. That didn't mean. But in the books, he's over five. We didn't have a hit today. Who I want to hear. And you guys better hire him because I have a job to do. I want to hear what it was like for you personally, like watching those games and what that felt like. Yeah. Yeah. That was really tough. You know, especially as you see their faces, you know, walk off as they're losing that game and you're like, OK, it's a one play game. And then, you know, what did it make a difference if they would have let us coach? You know, and I'm not going to say about myself as the head coach, because Pete did a great job. But then that means people would have still been in the press box calling defenses, you know, if we're together and all our assistants would have been there and strength coached every, you know, everything would have been together. Is that the difference of one play in the Miami game? I would like to think it is. Yeah. So you're watching that saying, God, man, we could we could be going to the national championship. So you feel for the kids in that. Yeah. Yeah. All right. So let's talk about this year's LSU team. Sixty transfers. Yeah. What is that like? It's obviously you've seen so much football coach, the NFL coach and college. Things have changed so much. Like, what does that mean as a head coach when you have to do turn over a roster to that level where it's like I like instilling culture and stealing the type of football players you want. Is it is it difficult? Yeah. Yeah. The good thing is we've had some practice, you know, like last year, that team we just talked about that. Well, when 13 games, 11 to one regular season, that was actually a rebuilt team. That was not supposed to be our best team. You know, we'd lost a lot of players in Jackson, Dart, the quarterback to the first round and a lot of NFL players. So that was a rebuilt team with a ton of portal players again. So we have had practice in this in today's error of college football, especially the way we built teams year in and year out there. So we've done this. It is like almost every year you're redoing your culture. This is a little harder because we weren't here. So none of the returning players, even though they're returning to they don't know our culture. Right. So in that way, it's a little bit like an expansion team, you know? But, you know, at the same time, other people are going to the same same things. What's the hardest thing like culture wise to instill in a team? Is it like toughness? Is it, you know, smarts to play the way that you want to play? Like, whether it be up tempo offense, like, what is the, what's the hardest barrier for you that you find when you're trying to get the guys on the same page? I think it's really challenging nowadays because it's really hard to get guys to put together individual, put away individual things. You know, everything is so individual based. And if I play this, and I think I'm going to get this contract, I'm going to get this. And so I need my stats, you know, because I got to get in the portal and get paid. So getting guys to really buy in that we understand that, you know, I think that we do a good job of really understanding how they think. So we're not like, Hey, you got to be a team. Don't care about anything. You know, like that's not realistic, right? You know, but understanding like the enjoyment and what they will get out of playing really well as a team, having great years, like what we've done previously and the memories that they'll have from that, right? You know, versus everything being individual. What about the the idea of having to derecruit somebody after they get to campus? Like as they already accepted their, you know, trying to see where they fit on the team. Some guys need to be humbled a little bit coming into certain times of the year. Is that the same thing like nowadays? Or have you found that it's changed with with NIL and the portal? Like you can't actually derecruit somebody. You can't like it's harder to humble these guys. Yeah, I think, you know, with NIL and portal, there's a lot of problems that have been created. I think with them getting paid, I don't think that's as challenging. I don't think it's as challenging to get guys to do things because we're paying you. You don't want to do it. There's fine system, you know, just like the NFL. And so it's, I find it's actually easier. They kind of in their mind, you know, think they're like pros now, which is good. That's how we talk to them. They are. So you got high expectations and we get paid. Hey, we expect you to do these things. We expect you to do these things in the weight room, in the film room, all these different things. And hey, if you want to be a normal student and not really do all those things, that's fine. Go see the GM and give back half your money. Right. You know, like if you want to do half the work. Yeah. So I think in that way, it's a little bit easier that way. Like, hey, you bring them in. Hey, this is what you need to do. And if you don't, you know, you're getting fine, there's a fine system for those things. But also what's going to happen at the end of the year? You need to cut. Yeah. Yeah. Sure. It's a good point. If you're recruiting a quarterback, what is it? What does laying kiff in quarterback look like? If you were to draw it up in the lab? Yeah. You know, we, first off, we adjust really to our quarterback. So it's not like the quarterbacks that look just like this. You know what I mean? We're going to take really good players and over years, they look really different. And then we, we move our system around to fit them, you know, what they do best. So we don't look for these specific height, weight, speed, arm, you know, but really competitiveness, you know, they all need to be really competitive. I really like guys that can make the outer rhythm plays, you know, we've, we've, we have tried to move more towards athletic move around guys because in college, especially so much stuff's out of rhythm and it comes down to, Hey, we don't make the right calls all the time. They get paid as defensive coordinators too. In this coverage, you got really good defensive players and thing. And at the end of the day, when that guy comes free and we don't make our call or the left guard gets beat, do you make a miss and make the third down play? And that's really a lot of times what advances in the playoffs. You know, deep in the year does that guy do it. We get all the credit for coach. Man, that was a great job. Well, really the corner came free and the guy made the corner, you know, Trinidad makes a miss and runs all over there and makes a play. That's called good recruiting. Right. Yeah. Yeah. It was Trinidad, one of those guys where it's like you, he obviously was a unheralded guy. And what was it about him that you're like, OK, we can work with that. We can make a system around his strengths. Yeah. Well, you one, you look at, he's winner. So highly competitive. Winner just won the national championship as a quarterback. And, you know, it's interesting, you know, we master and we're going to go play pickleball today. But you guys said you weren't any good at that. So we, yeah, we, it's not a real sport. Listen, when we know we're going to lose, we don't play. OK, yeah. So I played when we first got Trinidad. I went and played pickleball with me, never played. And the way he picked up and the competitiveness that he had and his hand-eye coordination, you could tell like this guy was really elite special. So just playing pickleball. So what you're saying is that not playing pickleball with you today, we missed a potential tryout to be your starting quarterback. Yeah. Is that fair to say? That is. Yeah. Damn. That sucks. And you could just be like, what's going on like in NCAA and like things like, you can be old. Yeah, that's true. You've got everything and then we'd just be like, you guys just got a basketball player. No, we'll just get on the Jets in the Celtics last year. Yeah, yeah. We could play. Yeah, we'll just get a good judge down here in the county and then just say, yeah, big cats good. Ready to go. Yeah. All right. So and then what about Sam Levitt, your quarterback, who's awesome. Played at Arizona State, took their team to the playoffs. What do you see in him that you're like, this is a guy and maybe what's the system like as a system shifting here with what you're going to try to do that may be different than last year? Yeah. I think what we see in him is some similarities. You know, when are highly competitive, you know, he took the team to the playoffs, you know, two years ago, made a lot of plays, you know, where things broke down. He had to make plays with his feet and he's really, really competitive and smart. Really student of the game, loves watching it. He actually has been very limited because of surgery and what he could do. But the way that he's approached the game and how serious is about being great. It's awesome to be around. Yeah, we saw him actually in the locker room. We did. He's throwing like he was like, oh, yeah, I'm going to throw from 10 to 12 tomorrow. He's talking to a player. It's like, all right, there was off season. One anonymous player that we spoke with wanted me to ask if you're a big dash pro fan. I don't know what that means. I don't either. Dash pro. I feel like I'm just going to know what that is. I think he wants you to run dash pro. Tell us you're keeping a secret play from us. No, I thought that was like one of those things that the kids say nowadays. And I'm supposed to dash pro. How many secret plays do you have? We're a lot of gas secret plays. They're called gas. OK, what is that? Gas means like you go really fast and just give it one word and you got to memorize everything around it. OK, OK. But is there like a sort of I feel like we're going to name gas plays after this. We name after people too. Oh, OK, nice. Yeah, like we'll have like gas big cat. Yeah, that one's slow down. That one's slow down and lay down and say finish strong. Yeah, we put like iconic people at the school. Yeah, we have a gas lab done. Yeah. And then it's a certain play and it's, you know, names they can remember. Can we give you one that maybe you can use this year? Gas Zach. Mm hmm. That's our guy. Gas Cornelius. I know. I know. You know, Zach. I know. We know it's not. Gas Zach would be a slow down play. That's definitely like slow down play. Hey, guys, here's the play. We're going to take all of the clock up. Yeah, the guy can't wake up with his damn alarm. Yeah, I like so. Yeah. Yeah, maybe that could be like in the game play. Yes, gas. Zach. Burn clock. Clock. Yes. Burn clock. Yeah, I like that a lot. You should. Yeah. That's you know, they got. Hey, that's that's it for now. You know, they have like milk the clock. We see milk the clock. Yeah, Zach, the clock. Zach, the clock. Take it down all the way. I don't care what happens. You do not wake up. Yeah, you're not that ball. What's beautiful about this moment right here is like there's an outside chance that 60 years from now and football coaches are just going to call it Zach and the clock and it's from right from this moment right now. Yeah, I'm through. Maybe we'll use it. Yeah, you know, since I saw the thing where he did the clock. Yes, yes, I don't think around in 60 years. Yeah, maybe maybe. You never know. Crazy. You never know. True. Nuts. Um, his girlfriend will be around. Yes, she will. She would want our queen. Our queen keeps me on. Yeah. Yeah. Part of my chief. Maybe that's what he's thinking. Mm hmm. Yes, that is exactly. Yes, exactly. Science he'll still be around. All right. I have a question from an LSU fan. Uh, our friend Van Leith and I texted him because he's from here and he's a big LSU fan. His I was like, Hey, what, what do LSU fans want to know from Lane Kiffin? And he said, what will he do to make them play like the animals we've seen? Yeah. Yeah, like that. Something about LSU football where it's like even the ups and downs, there's a physicality that LSU football kind of always brings, especially on the defensive line where you're like, Oh man, dude's just absolutely destroying people. So what, what are you going to do to make that, that culture continue? Yeah. That was one of the first things was like, I said, it was like, we need to return LSU physical style, the way that it was, especially defense when you were scared to play LSU and I was at Alabama's at his other places. And it was always like shit, when you got to play LSU defense and if you got to play him in Tiger Stadium, yeah, yeah. So to get that back one players, get those type of players, you know, but then also that mindset, like, Hey man, they got to come play you and you got to train that way. You got to think that way. Like you're at LSU and this is, and we do that when you say, De recruit them. It's not as hard because we sit here on this couch with them and in recruiting or in the portal, say, this is what it's going to be. It's going to be really, really hard here. We're going to work you really hard. You're going to put a lot of time in it's going to be really physical and intense. So that's how we're going to train. So if you don't want that, that's okay, but don't come here. Right. And that's, that's how you got to do it here and get those type of guys that have that mindset that match the fans that match the stadium so that they're, they're working together because you really do work together here. I've been on the other side when it's working together in the stadium and the players are in that tough phase and the fans come. Yeah. I feel like that weight on the other sideline like, whoo. Yeah. No, we've, we've said, we've come to a couple of games here and it is the best. Like whenever someone asked me, like, Hey, where should I go see a game? I'm like, you got to go to LSU on a Saturday night. And I mean, I'm a Wisconsin fan. I'm not trying to blow smoke. It's just the sound here is just different. It sounds like lightning and thunder when you come out on different standing on the field. When you said that you had a question from a LSU fan, I thought you were going to say Ben Mentz. Oh. Yeah, we're just got a question for you, which is, do you hate me? No, you should. You should. It's OK to him. He's a bad guy. I've been on social media for a week, so maybe he's done something. I don't know. I'll probably know. Yeah, I know that's a fair point. Just the beauty of being off of it, I've realized because now people hate you. You don't even know it. Yes. Yes. It's like it's not really happening. It's true. Yeah. It's not if you don't look at what Tyler, the creators say, like you're getting cyberbullied, just turn your phone off. Yeah, it's because it's not happening. Yeah. Then it's gone. But yeah, you know, you can hate him. He's a hateable person. Really? Yeah. Well, I mean, he's just he's a nice guy. He's very hateable. Yeah. I like him. I feel like he means well. Yeah, he does. I would say he means well. He definitely means well. Please, you know, both sides. Yeah, a little too much. Yeah, I might be asking. Like he FaceTiming before, like the playoff game and the cardings, like being all nice and everything, but then then Miss Finns are mad at him for being nice. And so then he tries to like go back and be nice to them. He is very good at finding a way to get like the maximum amount of people mad at him. It's a good skill. Yeah. He always I got it. Yeah, I'm good at it. He gets it. Yeah, that's true. You guys, you might be the Ben Mintz of college football. Oh, no. Come on. Oh, no. Oh, actually, no, I read the vanity before. You're the opposite of Ben Mintz and his some of his. Yes, that's true. That's true. That's true. Would you say that you're more of a part of my take podcast guest and maybe less of a vanity fair profile guy? Yeah. In the future? Yeah. Yeah. Why did you do that because you wanted nice pictures? That's our SID's idea. Because I've told you before. You know, Michael, I was like, what are we doing? He's like, you know, this is a different, this is not sports. These are new people, you know, that will get to hear about LSU and everything, you know, they'll do a really good job. They'll come in here, you know, they're not many questions and stuff. And they're here for like four hours and then it became what it became. You should have taken him to hot yoga. Because that's you. There was a strategy today where you were just like, we're going to tire him out. So to the point where they can't even think when they interview me. Yeah. So I just called you the Ben Minson College football. That was not a real thought. You just came out of my house. Dehydration gets so bad that your brain. I'm a bad teammate right now. If I pissed on one of those strips, you'd be like, you got to you got to drink 16 ounces ASAP. That's exactly. He does in the bathroom. You know, he's a locker. Oh, you haven't here? It's like, if you're like orange, you've got a problem. What's your piss on? What were you? I didn't I didn't get one of the strips. I just saw the sign. Yeah, I was solid orange all day yesterday. All day. And I saw I can't imagine what I'm like after. Although you got hydration today at nutrition. Yeah, hydration in your juice place. That was good time. Speaking of juice, this will be the only like hard hitting journalism question I asked today. Yeah. One of the big things that came out of the break up at Ole Miss was do you did you actually own that dog juice? Yeah. So I want to give you some space to clarify and think carefully. Mm hmm. Because it's going to be a guy. People will look into it. What was your relationship like with juice and what is it like to this day? I feel like it's one of those like number of awesome things. Like what we said, you're there is everybody loves you. And then you leave and then it's like everything changes to like and that was one of the really good ones. Like, you know that he didn't even know juice. It's fake. You know, it was just it was just a stunt, you know, PR stunt that I had this dog. You know, like we got John Landry actually picked the dog out, went out to Wild Rose. Kimmel, she wanted a dog because she had just moved from California. And so she picked out juice and that's really it. We didn't even have a plan for him to be this mascot or any of the things that happened. And then she just kind of ran into that. So was it your dog? Yes. In your house? In my house. Now. Oh. Now. Tom, our dog trainer guy. Okay. Wild Rose. Okay. Okay. Tom would keep him at times because of my schedule. For how long? You know, once Landry went to I first had him every day. Okay. Like a kid and then like the parent, you know, like Sharon. Yeah. And then when Landry went to college. Okay. Now nobody was at the house. Right. All day. So Tom would keep him a lot. Tom would come. You know, like during the week, then, you know, like I'll get him back on Thursday, you know, and he'd be with us for the weekend and then go back. Okay. That's that's why it was kind of like joint custody. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like divorced dog dad is what I'm hearing. Which is better than going like to Christie Nome route with things with a dog. Yeah. But so then after you left, where's, so where's juice now? Okay. So juice has gone back and forth because I don't have a house yet. Okay. Okay. So juice has gone back and forth and I got to get a house. Okay. To get juice. Yes. Cause at first I did bring him here. Okay. And then like there's this little dog, you know, bed over there. Confirmed. We don't look like a dog's ever been in that bed. There's hair. There's hair. Check. We'll go check for it. We're doing DNA tests. Let's wipe. Okay. Okay. Let's wipe. Okay. But then we have a problem. What's the dog going to do all day? Cause I don't have a house. So then he was up here and he's here all day. Like, and it was like, okay. And so I'm like, okay, Tom, like people are going back and forth, you know, like, so then they drove him back up and then Tom would keep him for a little bit and he'd come down and visit a little bit. So. Okay. So Tom has a dog right now. Tom physically has a dog right now. He physically has. So if we face time with Tom, he could show us proof of life of juice. Yes. This is true. All right, go ahead. We can do it. Sorry. Face time. Sorry. Face time, Tom. How committed are we to getting juice on campus? Like the first time you have a night game, I'm sure Kirk Herbstry is going to bring one of his like several dogs here. Yeah. Can we get, will juice be on camera once the season starts? Yeah, who'd be right now? What about the house right now? Okay. I just was so focused on spring ball. Yeah. And then like I was close to a house and it fell through. And so like, I don't have the house yet. You know, like. Need the house to get the dog. Okay. When we came down, we needed two houses. So too much information, but you know, knocks the son and then lay the ex wife. Like we moved down. Well, but we live separate sex wife. Yeah. So we're going to get two houses, both places. We had two in Oxford where she has two dogs there. So then you got to get two here. We got her to one found hers and find mine yet. And she's got the two dogs and don't get along with juice. So that was part of it. Okay. This is this is exactly what I want to find out. We're getting to the bottom of this. Yeah. Blended families, you know, yeah, yeah. Brandon Walker does not think the juice is real. It's my guy. Yeah. He's actually the embodiment of SEC where it's like he hated you. Exactly. Then you left. He's like, lovely and give it. Great. He's doing it for us. So you haven't been online, but for the last week or so, Brandon, it has been like the number one defender of you. I feel like he's been for a while. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's really glad that you left. Yeah. Oh, absolutely. He's like, actually, I feel like why, why he was there. He would actually say Lane Kiven is the best coach in college football because he was, he wanted to get me out. Yeah. Yeah. He actually thought like ADs would listen to him. Yes. Like, hey, if I say he's great. Yeah. Maybe the LSU and Florida AD will listen to Brandon Walker. They do. He's the number one college football analyst. Maybe they do. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe they bring him to SEC meetings. No, it's a brand new old potential team. He could rank the coach potential coaches. Yeah. He loves doing less. He loves doing less. Would it be safe to say though that like you're talking about like messy divorces, your divorce from FAU is maybe the cleanest? Yeah. Like, yeah. So in the future, if people accuse you of being messy with these things, be like, hey, go talk to FAU. I did it good once. Yeah, they'll say nice things about me. One time I did it. And actually, the more when people say like, oh, teams are distracted, they can't play well. You know, that was the whole thing kind of at the end. They're not going to be able to play well. They're too distracted, distracted, old misting. Like that started when we were playing at Oklahoma, you know, and then we're not going to play well in the egg bowl. They certainly can't play well because they're distracted because everybody's saying their coach is leaving. Well, we played really well at FAU. Actually, I take the old mist job that morning of the conference championship. We don't play till later in the day. The players are actually seeing it. We're telling them they're seeing it on sports center that we're leaving. And then we go win by like 40 in the conference. Yeah. Yeah. No, so as long as you're open with them. Yeah. Just like, I don't miss. I told them all along. Like, I don't know. This you'll never find a recruit or a parent. Normally when you leave, they say, well, man, he told us he was going to be here. You know, when we sign or be here forever, I never once said I would. They'd always ask me, they'd sit right on the couch and say, Hey, are you going to be here forever if we come to a miss? I said, I don't know that. Right. I said, I know I love it here, but I can't tell you I'm going to be here forever. Yeah. That's always up front with them. Yeah. Yeah. We are on a group chat together and we go back. We bounce a lot of ideas off each other. Yeah. How, how would you say your understanding of me and big cats? Yeah, Tom. Okay. I'll go with face time. How would, how would you rank me and big cats contributions to that group chat in terms of plays that we can think about running next year? Well, yeah, we fell into a problem because first off, our group chat was us. Yeah. Sawyer that now works for us here that came with us. He was on the first brigade. What was it called? First platoon. Yeah. That's what they named it. Like the people that got in the first plane, well, there were two planes. Yeah. Thank you for your service. Yeah. And some people were like, okay, you know, like, hey, okay, we're coming. And then all of a sudden, that shit got like a little crazy. And people were like, ooh, we're not sure we're getting on the plane. Yeah. No, everyone's like, hey, where's Glasscock? We got to find them. Yeah. Yeah. Where's Glasscock and Jill Cox? Yeah, we got to find these guys. Yeah. Supposedly they're coming and then like they were all saying they're coming. And then all of a sudden Golding starts talking to them and then they're like, hey, be careful if you go to that, if you go out there, man, there's a lot of people at that airport, you know, it's really ugly. And then like they start FaceTiming to, hey, are you on the plane? Yeah. Like, are you on the plane? Yeah. So anyway, yeah, the first brigade, so he gets on. Well, we leave, we leave Fisher. Yeah. You know, which is okay. Great guy. He got married, you know, and then like, you know, his wife's there and it was, it was complicated. So they stayed there. All right. Well, he was still in our group chat at that point. So we're talking plays, scheme, like a lot of stuff you guys give us. We actually implement. High Intel, fake, punt, punt. Yeah. Yeah. Now it's not operational security issue. Yeah. When it rolls on normal down in distance. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So we had to get him out of it. Out of it. So it's a big time. I mean, there's two, I got a lot of group chats of really kind of like high level people, really high level thoughts. You know, you got elite SEC coaches in one, you got some other people in that I won't talk about, you know, and then there's ours. You should throw Pete Carroll in ours. Just toss him. Yeah, he does like that. He likes outside the box. Yeah. Okay. He's never heard of fake, punt, punt. I showed you it worked. I sent you that clip. Yeah. It worked. I can't remember who it was. It was like division three team, but it worked. They did not see that coming. Is there a, is there actually like an SEC head coaches group chat? Yeah, there's two. There's the one with everybody. Uh huh. You know that they have so that like the assistant commissioner can have it in it, you know, like so that all the coaches, if they want to like tell us something, they're thinking about role change, you know, and then there's like one kind of created on our own, you know, that's just like. Some select ones, not that we're better than anybody, just right. You know, that we're close. And so we kind of bitch about things together or throw ideas out in there together and stuff, you know, like, can I guess, talk bad about the other coaches, you know, can I guess who's in it? We don't know if I'm allowed to say it because Kirby's made a rule that that's everybody knows Kirby's in it. So I didn't just break the truck. So there's one. Yeah. Yeah. Sark we know. Sark is in it for sure. Friends of Sark. So we're not doing well right now. That was really easy. Okay. But here, here's the deal. I've gotten in trouble for this before because I've talked about this with people, I think, I think it was Theo Vaughn's podcast and like, and in Kirby's like, dude, it's Fight Club, man. You can't talk about this group. You can't talk about what happens in here and you keep breaking the rule and you're the one that started the group. You know, like so. Do you think maybe they started a new group chat without you because they can't trust you in yours? I don't want to put that thought in your head. That's a mean thing for me to do. Um, well, it's not something to talk to. It is crazy because the group has six people. Okay. All right. Now again. But there's so many separate ones. And there's basically like a group. There's, there's every group that doesn't have each one of them in it one time. Right. So like, Hey, man, you know, like that guy really just got smoked Saturday and like you want to say something funny Saturday night, you know, like send something. Yeah. That's kind of funny or some video. Yeah. Like who added somewhere all to it? Was that you or did somebody else do that? And he's not in ours. Oh, good job. Okay. So we can do that. What was the last time you talked to Brent Venables? I'm good with him, but I, I just another one. That's not, yeah. Okay. I'll write you a letter. Okay. So now we're getting somewhere. So what does Steve Elko think about the price of crude oil these days? Like, I know that's right tied in with like all the boosters. Oh, Steve. Yeah. Okay. Mike Elko. Sorry. That's all right. Steve, I'll get you. Elko. Elko, you know, Elko. Oh, we got it. We got juice. This is going to be huge. You, you don't talk. So you don't talk. No, no, hold on. Tom. Yeah. How you doing? Can we see juice, please? Please produce juice. Okay. He's trying to figure out how to flip the camera, which, okay. I can tell he's actively working. There's juice. Nope. That's just, nope. That looks like a drawing of a dog. Can we see the tag? Yeah, we can see it. We can see juice. Can we zoom in on the tag, please? Oh, yeah. All right. We're going to need. Oh, yeah. There's juice. We're going to show Brandon. Yeah. Brandon really says the juice doesn't. Yeah. Tom, we're going to need a couple of mouth swabs just to confirm the juice is real. So just send that to us. He trusts me. That's what I do for a living. He's real. Wait, do me a favor. Call his name. Walk to the other side of the room and call his name. I bet you juice's head will turn if I whistle. He knows my whistle. Okay. Hold on. This is big. Here. Here. Juice. Sit. Oh, okay. This is how I do it. Okay. This is good. This is going to be great. He kind of said juice after here. I needed you to say juice first. Can you just hold the camera really close to his tag? Yeah. Can you zoom in on his tag, please? No, wait. On his what? On his tag. His name tag. He's naked. No name tag? He's naked. Yeah, we'll blur this. He's naked. She's a hunting dog. They don't put a tag on him with the phone number. Tom, go in the other room and call juice's name. What do you think? They have the dog bone with the address on there? It's like a real hunt dog. Here he goes. Here he goes. Just start with juice. Juice. That's juice. That's juice. That's juice. All right, confirm. Confirmed. Thank you, Tom. We appreciate it. All right, see ya. All right. All right. You know what? You got us. That was juice. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's juice. That's what we got to talk about. I want you to think he's actually like a world-class hunting dog. So he's like, it's like the manning of dogs. Like when you go out there to like their facility, people fly planes in to get these dogs or anything. And like juice's grandfather's like on the wall, you know, in front of magazines. So he's like world-class hunting dog. Right. Oh, so he's a nepo baby. It's like a manning of dogs, of like hunting. And so like we have this dog, I don't know anything about hunting or whatever. But yeah, so he doesn't have a name tag. Like, like, you talk about coaches are supposed to drink beer, like tough hunting dogs. They don't have like a name tag. Yeah, no. But like they're actress. They're naked, yeah. But that was juice. I can confirm that dog was confirmed to be a dog. Tom's probably like, what the fuck was that? No, this is actually like the most, like, publicly better watch out because we might get a Pulitzer. We just found out that your dog is real. Anything to prove Brandon wrong? Oh, man, that's great. That's great. Hey, so do you think of offensive, new offensive plays just randomly? Like when you're back to like our group chat, because we're obviously giving you some great stuff to think about. But are you like walking down the street or at hot yoga? And it's just like your brain just starts thinking, oh, what if I did this with the receiver? What if I did this out of the backfield? Yeah. So voice memos. I've learned to use voice memos a lot, like Charlie Weiss. So like I'm laying there getting ready for bed or something like that. You know, like you're laying there, something just pops in. You know, it's like dark, so you can't really text and all that. You don't want to like wake up and see the screen. So I just voice memo him. Hey, what if we put the receiver down in this way? Hey, what if we thought about this tomorrow? Remind me of this in the morning. Voice memos. OK, so that's, I mean, that's cool to speak to. Like you could do that like on Friday nights. To me, in our group chat, like when you're just kind of laying there, you know, like, or you have the bar or whatever. I don't really go to the bar. Yeah. OK, but you think of something? Yeah. Just voice me. Hey, coach, tomorrow, man, I think you should run this the first play. Shark wheel. Shark wheel. Yeah. Just hit it over spam it. Against Ole Miss Week 3. Shark wheel. Shark wheel. Shark wheel. That's good. You get Sam Levitt out in space. Yeah. You put the linebackers in complete conflict. You're ready to go. That's shark wheel. Was it hard to? I love how your group just nods at you. Yeah, well, they know because I want a couple national titles playing the video game. And I think I ran Shark wheel 90% of the time. What's the most you've ever run the same play like over and over? Now I recall the video game thing. Yeah, I won a title here at LSU. Won one at Tennessee, won one at LSU. I was, yeah. Is this when they first put like the coach, you can be the coach and like draw yourself and stuff? It was during COVID when we had no sports. I bought the old game from 2014 and just started streaming myself playing it. And I would just, like I went through multiple seasons losing in like horrific ways and it kept building and building and we had no sports. So like by the end, 100,000 people were watching. Yeah, I remember this. Yeah, Shark wheel. Yeah. I'll know it when I see it. I feel like I know something about this too. Like I like, I think I tweeted something at you about this or something like you were playing like, hey, we could beat you. Because I did beat Ole Miss a couple times because I was in the SEC, both with Tennessee. But wait, weren't you like a small team or something? I started at Toledo and then I went, oh, you got new head jobs. Yeah, I would go with around. I was at FSU, offense coordinator, Texas Tech, USC, hopped around. Won some Naddies. I knew around this. You don't have. Well, actually, like what Big Cat went through with those fan bases, pretty similar. You won on a video game. No, he had people that were mad at him for leaving their schools. Yeah, like he was you. He knew exactly what you go through. Burn things. I had people at the airport where I would leave. Just yelling shit at me. That would be awesome, actually, if they made the game. And then when you do, you get better jobs. You move on in what you're saying. She's over, you move on. And then they show the people at the airport where they're burning things on campus. He would spam the same play. Like, have you ever done that to an opponent? Like run the same play 10 times in a row? Yeah, we can actually say this now. Mulligan, it was. So if you said Mulligan, that's all you had to say. All the players knew to run the exact same play. And then sometimes it would hit and you'd be like Mulligan. Yeah, keep going. Mulligan. One more. Yeah, we actually did Ole Miss, Alabama in the COVID time. And there's really high scoring game. Yeah. And that year, I don't know, it was like 50 something to 48 or something. We lost to Alabama, but we kept running the same play like four times in a row. Mulligan. What was it? It was like a zone play with a tight end sliding back. And it hit like on third and forever, and then we just kept running it. Yeah. That's gotta be a cool feel. It's got to be Mulligan. Yeah. That's got to feel incredible. Mulligan. Have you talked to Coach O'odall? You obviously have history with him and we love Coach O. Yeah. We'd love to see him back. We love to see him back. He needs to be back. You know he needs to be back. We got to get him back. This is home. Yeah. You might not be home. Did you go on car face with him today? No, not yet. Somebody's sitting here. Yeah. What was the, when you were with him at Tennessee, what was the projector story from your point of view? Can you set the scene for what Coach O did with the projector before? I think it was Tennessee, Alabama. I got so many, he's been so many times. No, are you just, I don't even remember where he broke the projector. He smashed it against the wall as your opening act. That's tough to follow. That's like nothing. He used to actually like smash the projector and like everything in like the meeting room in the hotel, like the morning of the game. I was like, I'm right. Get everyone fired up. Like they come in like, hey, you're so well done. Yeah. And I said, give me off, fire it up. And we like come down like me and start, we was, this was like, we're all assistants there, you know, and he was like, Coach Kerr will be like, all right, get him going. Coach, I got him now. We're going to get him going. And Sarge and I are like, it's like eight hours before kickoff. Like what are we doing here? Because we're more like, hey, let's just like show him plays. You know, like get some tips and reminders. Let him go back upstairs, you know, like lay around. And Coach, we're going to get him going. Like, okay, it's 7am. We don't play for eight more hours. It works though. No. And they just break shit. Yeah. And then they just start breaking shit. And then like our director of football ops, like on Monday, be like, here's our bill, like, because we broke a chandelier. For everything like in the whole like hotel room, you know, like morning of the game to like get him going. That's how he gets him going. This is war time. We got to take it outside. Yeah. I love that. I love that. Does, uh, does Hypal emphasize things or thumbs up him or does he write back on the group chat? That's smart. Nope. He's not on there. He's on the big one. He's on the big one. Okay. He's on the big one. He's on the big one. Confirmed on the big one. He's on the big one. Here's the sad thing. And this happens in the side one. So I'll give you this. I mean, at the end of the year, things change. Yeah. So the big group chat changes. And then every would be like in our little one, like Kirby Will Dex, like I'm breaking the rules right now, but whatever. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's okay. I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to be a big rule follower in interviews anyway. What the heck? And he'll be like, okay, who's going to take him out of the conversation? I just got fired. You know, like, yeah, he's going to remove them. Yeah. That's a sad moment. It's like Billy Napier has left the conversation. Yeah. Just feeling. Yeah. Well, it's worse. No, when they don't leave on their own. Right. So one of us has to take them out. Yeah. Yeah. That is tough. And also that's kind of funny for everybody else. Like in a sad way, it's funny for everybody to like look at that. And it's like there before the greats of God. He removes you. It's like big chat room. Right. So you had to remove Mark Stoops. Um, no. Oh, I know what we did. No, no, no. I know what we did. Now I remember. Here's what we did. We just started a new one. So nobody ever saw the guy in the team. Yeah, you have like the. But then I screw up because sometimes I just like. All right. Name the new ones. I go to send and they they sell time. Like I send more things times 10 than everybody. Right. Right. You're that guy. Yeah. I'm that guy. Yeah. Like basically sometimes I feel like I'm like. Talking to yourself. Yeah. I live like one other person. And I'll be like, Sark, I guess we could just like have our own conversation. So then like, then you start the new ones. But here's the problem. They're not named. Right. So then like, hey, I want to like go and I'm like, okay, I'm going to send this. Picture to our group of whatever it is or something like this. And so like, I write Kirby and then it pulls up like so many. So I'm like, oh, here's one with everybody. You know, and it says that. And then they'll like said to you just text the old one. Right. You know, so it's like definitely. And the side. So just confirm that one. I told you. Yeah, he's actually like. That's a bad. Him and I have been the longest standing members. Yeah. But that's a tough move when that happens. You know, you got to you. What you got to do is you got to name it. And you also got to change the picture. Yeah. Do you have a picture is what is what like catches your eye. You're like, okay, this is the new one. Yeah. That's the move. Just a lot that says SEC head coaches. Just put us in there and we'll we'll police it. We'll be a silent partner. Yeah. Yeah. We won't respond. I promise you, I won't abuse the privilege. There's not there's so much great stuff in there. I bet we could respond if you want. We'll just thumbs up shit. I don't care. What's what's what is the picture at the top? Is it just the SEC logo? Yeah. That rocks. That's classic. That's cool. That's like a whole class move. Yeah. That's an all-class. Is the SEC dead though? Because the big 10 kind of whoops the SEC now. It's fair. Yeah. It is. It's a fair statement. It is. Why do you think it's been so long since the SEC won a Natty? It's like there's like four year olds have never seen an SEC win a Natty. My four year old son, Chris, has actually he just thinks at the big 10. It's just a big 10. He doesn't even know about the SEC. Um, there's a lot into that. I think that, um, I think it's set up in a good way for the top heavy teams there right now. I think now, and it's going to get better. We're going to nine games and our bottom is harder than theirs. Okay. And our bottom stadiums, you know, are harder than theirs. So we're going to beat each other up more and they're going to sit up there and have two, three hard games a year, you know? And so they're, they're top teams and our top teams when they go to the playoffs, okay, they're in better shape. That stuff matters. You know, it's why, like, I've always been opponent to stay at eight games and let us make our own whoever we want to play in non-card. Don't tell us who we have to play. Right. And we would do like the model of the last place I was just at. Look, we went 20 and 0 in non-conference regular season games. I don't miss 20 and 0. We didn't play in a big like openers. This place went in a four year span, lost three or four openers. Yeah, they had played hard games. So you played, yeah, that's so great. Whatever. Well, you don't get rewarded for it because it's not worth it enough in this case. But also that schedule where half your games you don't have to get up for, it's just a, it's a mental toll that you got to play when you're getting up for. Plus also, man, your good players out by the fourth quarter. So your play count at the end of the year is less. One of the really good teams there rested a couple of their good players in games at the, in conference games at the end of the year. So they could be in better shape for the, for the playoff run, which is now longer. And I think as you look at our model, I'll miss like that schedule. We played eight home games last year. Okay. Look, that team was in really good shape physically and mentally to go into the playoff. Yeah. You almost lost to Washington state. Yeah. And that was the, that was the rap poison game where we, we gave you guys rap poison. We tweeted things. I looked like a genius. I was like, this is the biggest trap game ever. Take Washington state and then you put it in front of your team. And I almost was right. You guys almost fucked that up. So watch this. This is why scheduling matters. Okay. So was that the hardest non-conference team out there? No. No. We're not playing Ohio state or something. So we'll include this in our group chat. What we have figured out is basically every year you're going to have a blackout game, good and bad. Yep. Just what's going to happen. The ball is going to go that way, man. Someone's going to get hurt. Like everything's going to go good in one game. You're going to have a blackout game, man. Like, and it might be a side of the ball, right? But in every year you're going to have a blackout bad game. Can you survive the bad blackout? Well, if that day of your bad blackout, you're playing somebody that's not great. Maybe you can survive it. We played horrible that day. No energy, 11am kicker. Just what happened? Yeah. And we survived it. Right. We survived our blackout game. Right. Because that is always interesting to me is like as a college coach, how do you, after a big win, like they are kids at the end of the day. Like they're obviously there's some guys that are playing in their mid-20s, but there's a lot of 18, 19, 20 year old kids who have a huge moment and then they got to go play the next week. How do you get off the mat? How do you get them to turn the page? Because just human nature, when you do something very like incredible, successful, that you're going to you're going to bask in it for a little bit. Relief syndrome. That's what happens. That happens to adults. Right. NFL players, you have that game, the let down game. So it certainly happens in college. It happens to all, it's really hard to battle against relief syndrome. Like we're good. I got this man. We just won that game. And now it's harder than ever because what do they do all day long? Read about how great they are. This how great they are at this game. They know spreads. They know like how, hey, we're not supposed to lose this game more than they didn't even like see that stuff. Right. And like they're reading a paper back in the day. So now they see all that. So it's even more that that's why you got to try to get them to understand like every game man is independent of every other game. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It really is. It's hard to do. Every game is independent in every, every game, previous game. And it doesn't matter, man. If you beat him before and you guys, we got to go play, it doesn't matter that I beat him, but you didn't let you lost him. All that shit doesn't matter. Yeah. No, that's. Every game is independent. That that that narrow victory that you had against Ole Miss helped me because I went to James Madison. And so we also narrowly beat Washington State. And then I got to be like, well, Ole Miss, they're a tough team. Ole Miss struggled them too. So basically you would beat Ole Miss. Yeah. So basically we beat Ole Miss. Actually, by the, I think we might have beaten you. Yeah. By the property last year. Yeah. They whooped you. Yeah. We kicked your ass. Yeah. Yeah. Overrated. Then. How's that belt taste? Hmm. Without. So our former coach, Signetti, went to Indiana has obviously been on an incredible run. How much do you adjust things like you get you get somebody like him that comes in wins at a place that nobody thinks you'd be able to win at? How do you adjust what you're doing or do you change anything at all based on how he has chosen to like attack the portal, build a team? Like, do you do change anything about the way you operate? Yeah, we don't because there's a lot of similarities there about building through portal and, you know, how to invest in which players and top players and stuff. So I think there's a lot of similarities in the models of how the teams were built, you know, portal heavy, not traditional national high school, you know, five star players. So there's a lot of similarities in the models of how we do it. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Was it hard to keep Witt Weeks here? Um, yeah, I mean, he was thinking about going. Yeah. And. What is that? I feel like it wasn't a professional question, but I was asking, I'm going to answer that was a professional question. Okay. What was it like re-recruiting week weeks? I almost leaned into it. I always gave a very unprofessional answer. And I was like, okay. I actually care. Yes. I was like, before I started, he's like, Hey, don't get too loose with them now. You know, you do this with people and then all of a sudden you say those things and then we got to like go back track. Yeah. Yeah. So what was it? So I'm trying to be on middle behavior. How about this? How about you don't say the thing that you were going to backtrack on, but you could just do the backtrack as if you had said. Yeah. Backtrack right now. So backtrack what you almost said. Yeah. She's like, I'm sorry. I was taking out of context. I actually do this all the time. I'll be like to people all the time. I'll be like, God, like, I shouldn't say this at all. And then I just say, Hey, no, you know, I really, you know, like, it would be rude to say this, but this is what I was thinking. And then they're like, what, just set it anyway. Yeah. We do it all the time on the show. We're like, I'm not going to say it. And then we're like, all right, we got to say it. Well, now it's not as funny. So I was going to be like, yeah, well, you know, I just called his girlfriend. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So now, now it's backtrack. Now backtrack. Now tell us the apology. Oh, then I'm going to apologize for. Yeah. Just saying the call the girlfriend thing. Yeah. I called a girlfriend who's the daughter of me, you know, like, and then she told him to stay and all. Yeah. Yeah. So it was taken out of context. I don't accept the apology. Okay. Yeah. Just want to let everyone know we're here to coach football. Yeah. But here's the thing. You got to wait a few days. You got to make wait, wait a few days to apologize. So then the story comes back again. Just dying down. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Okay. We're finally moving on. Make sure you get that. Hey, I really apologize to everybody. That's the message to you. You got to keep everyone talking about you. And then it's like, man, he apologized. Oh, no, did he actually just bring it back up again? What did he apologize for again? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right. I got one last question. This has been so much fun. We've had an incredible day. Yeah. You guys have been like the best in terms of hosts. We've done everything. Hot yoga, softball. We did the... We crazy beat you in softball. We beat you in softball. Yeah. By the way, that relief syndrome thing, like we could play softball 100 times. We beat you guys 100 times. Every game is independent of the other. No, not that. Not that. Actually, no. If you're playing through our base every time, we're going to wait every time. Here's what I disagree. One, okay, there's a lot of factors that go into this. Now, we had known... Our team had no idea about the new ball that y'all use. We don't know that, even though we had some softball people. They're not used to that. You literally softball coaches from the softball team. Yes, correct. Okay. The ball would... But it's kind of like a never sport. Yeah, yeah, yeah. A ball or something. Then now, you guys knew how to strategically place your outfield people and stuff. Like now we realize the ball can't really travel that far. Well, all right. So then let me ask you a question. If we played that game again right now, would you put yourself at third base? That's the other thing. I didn't know my team. Now I know. I don't even know the people that were on my team. Would you put yourself at third base? Okay. But also for this, I would be better now. Maybe I would. Oh, so now you look, you're back to a loss. You're back to a loss. No, because I know the ball now. The damn ball, first off, you got to have a different game playing in the first inning and then later innings. Yeah, because the ball gets softer. I told you guys that. Yeah, you get hit the ball. Yeah, but I didn't really realize that. Would you consider yourself... Like you should try to hit hard grounders in the first inning. It's hard to feel. Then once you... Because you're kind of scared of that ball at first because you're like, wait, I don't have a glove. Then you realize this ball got soft, man. Like it's... You can toss it around. Yeah. Would you consider yourself to be a good loser? No. You kind of wound off by yourself. Yeah, I'm terrible. The last out that you made? Terrible loser. You ran the first base line? Don't do all that. No. You did the A-Rot. You reached out. You tried to slap the ball out of Shane's hands at first base and then just kept running afterwards. And I was like, I get it. Like, I mean, show me a good loser. I'll show you a loser. So I get it. You don't like to lose. It makes sense. Good one. Thank you. Yeah. Keep up with that. And usually they're good losers. They've gotten used to it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Good point. Like if we had played pickleball. All right. Roback question. R-H-O-B-A-C-K dot com promo code TAKE. 20% off your first purchase. Q-Zips, Polos, Hoodies, Jogger, Shorts. Roback dot com promo code TAKE. Zack. That was a really good job. Thank you. I thought you were reaching it over there. No, no, no. Yeah. I got it in my head. Wow. It's like three lines. So yeah, I could play for you. Mulligan. We don't even need that. Gaps. Mulligan. Gaps. Zack. Gaps. Zack. Three lines. Max could play for you too. My guy. What's going on? Coach, I appreciate you for your time today. I was curious. I did see you recently. I don't know if this is a developing friendship, but I saw you did go on stage with LeBouci a couple of weeks ago and I was curious if for the city of Baton Rouge, if there was any talks of maybe having him run down the tunnel with the team one game this season. Hmm. Yeah, I don't think the tunnel thing, you know, that's kind of sacred in that. You know, we've discussed different people and we did this at the previous place, you know, doing like the Tiger Walk with us, you know, so they kind of walk in the stadium, kind of like the Morgan Walling thing, you know, like. Yeah, yeah. You know, like so we've discussed that, even talked to Boussy about that. Okay. Awesome. Nice. Any follow-up? And I was also curious. I like Boussy. Yeah. Agreed. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're going to be catfish. I just went and caught like real fish and I was sending them videos and he's like, that's scary out there. You know, like we go way out, like 100 miles out and stuff. He just like, just stays in shore and catches catfish. Yeah. We had some of his chips yesterday in the van. They were good. It went over. Yeah. Wrap snacks are really good. Yeah. Wrap snacks. Wrap snacks. Boussy badass chips. Yeah. They were. They were. Appsoft.com. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Check it out. Yeah. All right. Go ahead, Zach. I was also curious whether it be Tennessee, you know, Florida, Ole Miss, now here at LSU. What is it about coaching in the South? Is there someone who says aside, coaching in the South compared to other regions of the United States that like, just as you keep coming back or? Good question. He just cracks me up. He's a good question. Well, because I really, I told you, self-admitted, like I don't see the show all the time. Yeah. But okay. So Sawyer like just kind of like gives me the funny clips. Yeah. And so Sawyer this morning like comes in and shows his clip with Bill Acheck and alarms and all that stuff. And I was like, I was like, he's acting in that. No. So that's what I said today. Like he walked by and I was like, hey, he's acting the exact same again. Yep. He's the same. Yeah. SEC. It's just what we talked about. The reaction there, you know, when you change jobs, look at the two previous SEC jobs and you move and you change and everybody's like, well, if you think about it, the reaction was because I came to LSU. Well, that reaction at Tennessee was another, that was an arrival school. Because it was like, well, if you had left for arrival school Ole Miss would have been fine. Tennessee wasn't. Because that's the passion of, that's the same reason why the stadiums are the way, the intensity is the way it is. It means more. You know, we talked about, well, the Big 10 and when in, you know, those championships and stuff. But the SEC, what we talked about, you got to get up every week and you got to play in that every week and the fans have that, the towns have that. And it's really cool. I mean, it really, I know it gets overplayed. Like it means more, but it does, man. It ruins people's like whole year when they lose a rivalry game down here. Is there any kind of like feeling you could equate to like having the city at an SEC school behind you, just like, it's almost bigger than the game. Like the entire city just around it, like waiting to see this team win. Is there any feeling that's close to that or is it unlike anything else? It really is. You know, we guard against it. You know, we talk a lot against it because, you know, coaches, the kids experience, you know, to become like these little gods in these towns and stuff, you know, like, well, that's great when it's going good. But then when it goes bad, it's the other way. Like this is what, when I first got here, what I realized, whether you win or lose, whichever it is, that kid, he's not escaping it all week because it's everywhere you go. Now you go like, let's say when I was at USC, like the kid goes to goes to class, you know, like half the kids in class have no idea what happened in the game. You know what I mean? Like, or, you know, the gas station, they don't know. Here, Tennessee, you know, places like that, Alabama, like everybody knows everything. So it's like, man, when it's good, it's good, but you also got to guard from that. The guys get too high because everywhere they go to here, man, you're great, man. You're especially when you're talking about let down games. Yeah. And you got this game. They're hearing that everywhere they go because everybody knows. Right. They go down to eat, they get lunch. Everybody down there knows. The janitor knows. Everybody knows what happened last week and knows exactly how they played. Yeah. Did you have a laugh with Katelyn DeBore about that woman who said if she won the lottery, she'd buy out his contract. Did you have a little laugh on the group chat? But see, you think you're figuring out the small group chat. There's still the big one that all these people are in. Yeah, I know, but that one's business. I'm talking about the small one. Oh, I kind of break that a little bit. You know, when DeBore not in the small group chat. No. And in fairness, in fairness, you wouldn't get in that fast. Right. You got to earn your New York coaches. Yeah. These are usually like relationships that have been developed. Like drink wits. Yeah. Yeah. You should actually make it like that. Yeah, no. I got you. Yeah. You should make it like if you beat, if a new coach beats you or Kirby, they get in. That'd be fun. That's good. Yeah. I mean, gotta keep you guys honest. Do you ever just drop memes in the official one like back to Greg Sankey? Like you just mess around in the official group chat? You meme him? He's not in the official. No, he's not. Okay. Got it. He delegates that. Got it. Yeah, throw us in that one. Yeah, that would be good. You'll just be the moderators. I send things to Greg Sankey. He would tell you if he's in a read and nobody else sends to him. So that's just me. Yeah. Yeah. Have you gotten to meet and know Mike the Tiger yet? Not really, besides just going by it or once. Yeah, we had said hello to him. You haven't like, I feel like. I mean, I didn't walk up there once and try to like have a moment, you know, like, see the coach. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I'm the Tiger. I do feel, I actually do feel like that's important for the coach. That's really why we need coach out. Like that's, you just need just for things like that. Because actually what we're discussing right there and half of me joking. He knows. He has a relationship with Mike. He does. 100%. It's based on mutual respect. Even if the Tiger doesn't know, he would tell you that he believes the Tiger. Oh yeah, definitely. Yeah, definitely. Like coach, me and the Tiger, we've been knowing each other for a long time. Yes, yes. Coach, I knew his dad. I knew his dad. Yeah. Yeah, this is a petite Mike. All right. All right. Little baby. Well, coach, thank you for an unbelievable day. We appreciate it. Great week. This has been awesome and best of luck this season. All right, guys. We'll be right back. Thanks for having everybody. Coach Kiffin was brought to you by Reese's. You remember school lunches as a kid? Those times where you scored a Reese's, you were basically in kid heaven. Now you can go back to that same feeling. Reese's is dropping two limited edition cups. The return of the Reese's Strawberry, PB&J and the all new Reese's Marshmallow cup. Younger you would have done anything to get one of these. Luckily adult you can, but only for a limited time. So grab one before they're gone. Reese's the official candy partner of Barstool Sports. Get yours. Hersheyland.com slash Reese's. This is the Reese's Marshmallow right here. And then I've got the Strawberry, PB&J as well. I'm going to have Reese's Marshmallow. It's delicious. Check it out. Hersheyland.com slash Reese's. Okay. We now welcome on a very, very, very, very, very, very special guest. Is our guy Blake Portals in the back of Vanny Woodhead too. First time we've had anyone back here. What's up, dude? What's going on? Thanks for having me. And we're also, we should say, we just built an entire play set for, with a great company called Rock Solid. Go check them out. For a young kid, two year old who's battling cancer. Feels good boys. We just put in a hard day's work. Yeah. Great event. Awesome thing to do for a kid and his family. And I mean, we got to live out a dream of working construction. Yeah. We're going to do a construction war. We're up some six in a second. We figured that probably wouldn't be the best thing to do. I was offered to sing early and I was like, I don't think that's what we should do in the back yard of this kid's house. Maybe not. We need to wait a little bit. Maybe a little bit later. But he was so happy to see when Blake handed him a Jacksonville Jaguars football. So that was cool to see Blake. He still got the touch. It's yeah. I didn't get a golden hammer, but. Yeah. No big deal. It's fucking hot back here. Me and Max were awarded the golden hammer and Zach. So we feel pretty good about that. Blake, I saw you just a couple of months ago when Hank and I were down here for a TPC at Sawgrass and we went golfing. Afterwards, we had a few beers over at our place and you told a story that I was hoping that you would share with our audience about because I was complimenting you on how fast you were. Like you had, I think among all like qualified quarterbacks, you had the highest yards per carry of any AFC quarterback of all time. Yeah. So you were fast. You're a fast guy. And then you were telling me a story about when you first got drafted by the Jaguars, how fast you were that you tried to talk to your coach about maybe letting you play a different position. Yeah. I thought early on that tight end could have been a potential better, just long term situation for my skill set. And they kind of pushed back on that. So I ended up playing quarterback. Why did they push back? Because it was the fact they drafted you three. I think that had something to do with it. Yeah. And your coach said like, Blake, we just drafted you third overall. Please don't ever say that to anybody again. Yeah, no. So I kept that one to myself. But I would hop in drills. I would hop in drills every now and then. Quarterback ended up being all right. Yeah, quarterback was great. And you are, I'm just, I said that. The skill set was fitting for a tight end, I always thought. But I did say that to remind people that you were, you're an athlete. Absolutely. Athlete. I had more offers to play tight end out of college than quarterback. Wow. Wait, where else were you offered? I had never played tight end before. Okay. Colorado State. Okay. Western Kentucky told me I was too slow. So they wanted me to play tight end. I was too slow to play quarterback. Okay. To play tight end. Okay. And then Purdue. Oh. Yeah. That would have been an interesting place for you. The guys really fit your personality. And watched me throw in high school for like an hour and a half and made me do all these extra drills. And at the end was like, yeah, we're going to offer your scholarship as a tight end. So. They didn't get that well. Do you, do you miss it at all? Do you miss football? I do. I miss it a lot. I still talk to people. I'm getting old now. I know more coaches than players. Yeah. But enjoy watching. Miss hanging out the locker room, all the typical stuff being around the guys. Do you, do you watch like all the games? I didn't at first. I was a little sour originally. Yeah. And then that lasted like half a season. And then I started watching. It's just fun to watch and root for guys that you know. And coaches and Jesus. I'm sweating. It's so hot back here. It is so hot. When you saw, when you saw Phillip Rivers play this year. It's so hot. What you like. I thought it wouldn't be a big deal. I thought I could play. No. Yeah. And I, this is. For me, that would be the straw. That would be like the last one where it's like, I'm better than Phillip Rivers. No. I think Phillip at it. The middle edge, probably the physical as well. I think I told you this last time I saw you. It happened again. I played catch. We got two boys that live next to his neighbors. So like 10 and 12. Great kids, good athletes. But I played catch with them on Saturday and my arm still sore. Oh. Yeah. So yeah. It's how are they, how are they catching? They're great. Yeah. Good little athletes. Yeah. So we were, we were having, when we were doing the construction, I think that's why we didn't get the golden hammers. We were catching up. We were talking about our kids. So you, you said in Florida they have, they have T-ball. They have travel T-ball. Travel T-ball. Florida is just, you know, it's competitive and it's competitive, like right away. Right. Like as soon as you, there's no rec league and like, let's just have fun. As soon as you sign up, it's like, we're here to win championships and turn professional. Dude, is there like part of you that's like, Hey, I actually was a professional athlete. This is ridiculous. Like I didn't need travel T-ball at five years old. And I went to the NFL. I think that's part of it. There's actually, I was coaching my daughter and it's an all girls flag football league. There's like over 500 of them called girl power. It's awesome. But there was like four XNFL guys that were out there coaching and the four XNFL guys were by far the most relaxed, chilled coaches. Right. Right. You know, everybody else, it's the AFC championship game every Sunday. Right. Cause I feel like you, like guys, you know, who actually played professionally, they're like, Hey, most of these kids are not going to do anything. They're going to have fun, but. Yeah. Make it fun. Stop pretending that a five year old is going to be in the MLB. No doubt. Keep them signing up. Keep them having fun, teaching them the game and instill some quality traits. And then it's all kind of irrelevant until you hit puberty. It will be sick though. If one of your kids goes pro, it would because we'll hopefully still be doing this podcast and that would be awesome. Vanny Woodhead. Yeah. Full circle moment. Yeah. That would be so awesome. Global warming. It'll be 160 in the back of this fan. Dude, it's so fucking hot. What do you think it is right now? Wait, hold on. Masking. I want to know what temperature it is. It's got to be 120. I think it's. We'll do something that we need to do. What do we need to do, Max? What? Say it. Just say it. It's so hot. Just fucking say it. This is grit mean to you. Oh yeah. Hey, what does grit mean to you, dude? It's 700 degrees back here. This is grit, Max. Blake, what does grit mean to you presented by DraftKings? Shout out DraftKings. DraftKings Sportsbook. Okay. All right. Chromocode take. Okay. Okay. Chromocode take. We now, can we keep this part in though? Can we keep all this in? And then you put the question we're about to do, you put it at the beginning. Yeah. All right. All right. We now welcome on a very, very, very special guest. It is Blake Bortles. We're in the back of Vanny Woodhead too. Blake, I start this. I start every single interview with this question presented by DraftKings. What does grit mean to you, dude? I think just battling through in the back of Vanny Woodhead. But it's 125 and just dripping sweat. After building the swing set with a great company for a great cause. Great company. Now we go back to the middle. Let's go back to the middle of the interview. All right. We're back now. Probably closer to the end because it's so fucking hot in here. Blake, what's your career? Dude, you look like you're in a sauna. I feel like I'm in a sauna. I'm in a sauna. Blake, what's the grittier doing this podcast in the back of this van or when you had to write a chapter of our book? Oh, yeah. Oh, God. I had a little intel that Blake, yeah, we talked about the book. It's close. The book might take it. He said that he was, our ghostwriter emailed him a couple of times, being like, is this good with you? And Blake just said yes and just never read anything that he wrote or any phone. Yeah. You had full faith. Yeah. He had it. Yeah. Blake, what do you have? What do you do every day? Well, I got three kids. So I do a lot of that. That's a lot. Big on, I pack lunches and drop off. Me and my wife rotate, drop off. We got a one-year-old. So there's always a baby at the house. One of us is always with him. But you know, that's about it. Here and there, random things. Like during the day. Like off, like a normal day. Yeah. You drop off the kids. Drop off. And you go home and then you're just like, all right, chill. Like this is me from a place of envy. Yeah. There's not, there's random activities and things that happen here and there. But for the most part, like I'll work out and yeah, just kind of hang out. It's interesting. It's just like, you had a great career. You made a lot of money and now you're retired in your mid-30s. Yeah. And I feel like most people aren't retired in their mid-30s. No. The selection of people that you get to hang out with that are also retired are probably a little bit older than you. Yeah. Were you making friends with like older dudes? Yes. Like my goal was, when I first got done, I was like, I'm just going to play golf every single day. And I realized a lot of the guys up there doing that were older and been divorced multiple times and maybe absentee fathers. So I limited the golf and went back home. But yeah, it's a lot of older hanging out, playing golf, because there's not many mid-30-year-olds that can play golf on a Tuesday at 2 or at 9.30 in the morning. So yeah, it's diverse. How's your game? Up and down. Some good stuff. Well, what's your handicap? I guess seven. So that's pretty good. The thing about Blake is, I've never heard anybody else do this, but you're a right-handed guy and you play golf left-handed. Yeah. Hank and I both play golf left-handed. We actually had, he borrowed some of my clubs when we played with you guys last time. And he told me earlier it was kind of like the catalyst to him fully going lefty. So I like to believe I had a bit of influence on that. He needed to see representation. You're the person we should blame for this whole fucking thing. I mean, his swing aesthetically is significantly better left-handed than right-handed. What the results show, I think, is we haven't seen that yet. So he's at it's common. He found out, I think, he's actually left-handed. You're actually right-handed. Yeah, do everything right-handed, swing left-handed. Swing left-handed. Does this count as our hot yoga? Yeah. It's got to be. I think we're good. It's 7,000 degrees back here. I'm about to pass out. That was awesome that we did that. That was cool building the play set. I do feel it. That was not what we... Our original idea was to sit on a construction site and do absolutely nothing, which you've talked about how sick it would be. The planche, I had a buddy that has a big site and he was like, you guys can just come down here and kind of mess around on some heavy machinery. But we... You didn't tell us that! Well, you told me this. Yeah, I know. And it's like we can't bail now. When this came through, it's like we have to do this. Absolutely. Yeah. Absolutely. This is heavy machinery sounds. Yeah, it does. It does. But shout out was Rock Solid Foundation. Yes. It's a really cool organization. Yeah. Very. I'm glad that we got to experience this together. It turns out we're a lot better with tools than we thought that we'd be. We're pretty good at it. It's not the tools part, it's the directions. Yeah. There was a couple times where Blake and I missed the step because we were just talking and caught up in conversation. So the directions is the hard part. Yeah. It's nice when you have like an adult supervisor there. Yeah. I was just kept on saying, no? No? All the adult supervisors were younger than us though. Yeah. So we'd be like, we need an adult and then a 30 year old would come over. Hell. Oh, nice. Here we go. Ice cold twisted tea in the back of Vanny Woodhead. That's great. Can I get a water? Zach, do you have a last question? It's so hot. We're going to have you back on when it's not so hot. Yeah, this is great. This is kind of stupid. What do you think about the Jaguar season? Last season? Oh, the next one. The coming up. Yeah, actually, what any Jaguar season? You pick a season. Any year the Jaguar's history just be like, that was pretty cool. 17 was fun. Okay. That was. Yeah. What about, what about, oh? 95 early. Yeah, what about, what about 08? 08, uh, yeah. I don't, I don't. That's got to be like David Garard. Yeah, probably. I'm gonna make before him. We're about like 97 when you guys beat the Denver Broncos. Brunel, Jimmy Smith, Kenan McCardell. Great team. Well, two years ago. Two years ago. Not great. I missed the playoffs. What about, what about three years ago, the Urban Meyer season? What was that like? Uh, I don't know a ton about it, but I, you know, I think some changes were made. Okay. What about last year and then going forward this year and the year after? Last year was awesome. Liam's great and get to spend some time with him in LA. Oh, yeah. Trevor's awesome. Got to know him a little bit. And I think they're, they're set up to be good for a long time. So it's cool to watch and the city's, you know, fired up and pumped around them. Do you, uh, are you like a, like Jaguar fan? I root for them. Yeah. Cause there's still some people like in the support staff, right? Like no, none of the players were there. But like root for them, of course, to do well, know some of the guys and the city's just happier when they win. Yeah. So everybody's in a better mood. I went to my first one last year. My daughter did the halftime cheerleading show. Oh, yes. So we supported. Great game. I mean, the new stadium will be sweet to coming up. Yep. They get to play in Orlando for a year next, uh, next season. Oh, that's right. I forgot about that. That'll be cool. Is there a team besides the Jaguars that you look at, like your second favorite team that you played for? Um, probably the Rams. So, like, Vey, Stafford's cool to watch. Yeah. Yeah. I'm just driven. It's crazy how much sweat. I mean, not, yeah. Root for guys I know, like watching guys I know. Do you still have a Tesla? No. I went to trade it in and, uh, I didn't know how taxes worked on trade-ins. Like if you trade it in, take the cash, you have to pay taxes. But if you just trade it in, it rolls over fully into a trade-in. So I traded in and got a truck. Got it. It's nice. Nice. So my wife was like, I come back, expecting me to like Uber back home with a check and I drove back. No, you just like got the truck. Yeah. It was a good deal. Zach, last question, road back question, because it's 7,000 degrees back here. Come on, Zach. I'll get you guys out of here so quick. Road back question. RHO. BACK.com. Promo code take. 20% off your first purchase. QZIP. Polos. Hoodies. Jogger. Shorts. Roadback.com. Promo code take. Also, everyone do go to Rock Solid Foundation. It will be a link in the, uh, vlog that we put out with Blake. Thank you, Blake, for doing all this. Absolutely. Really, really, really. Thanks for having me. Great to see you. All right. Zach, go ahead. Blake, I was curious. Your thoughts on pickleball and if it's a competitive sport. Okay. I mean, I think it's competitive. For sure. Anything can be competitive. I've played it some. I think it's fun. I think it's more fun as like a casual grab beers after than like getting serious and trying to play in tournaments, but to each their own. Do you love pickleball? I do think it's a fun game. Do you think there's a world where, uh, kind of the competitive aspect of it expands and we see more like a major tournaments on TV? Or do you think it's more of just like a leisurely fun thing? Yeah. Personally, I think it's more leisurely and fun. I don't know. Cause it like the youth level, I guess you would have to start like sniping off some of the kids playing tennis. Yeah. Like pickleball. I don't know. Who made you ask that question? You've never talked about pickleball in your life. I was just, I was just curious. I heard you guys talking about AU child sports earlier and I was going to ask maybe if you saw a future in AU pickleball for the kids as well. I think our security guard, Mike, puts you up to this. You want to ask them a Florida question to Florida boys? I can do that as well. You, uh, are you, do you prefer the Gulf or do you prefer the East coast? Where do you, like if you're vacationing or you were the family going out, kind of more relaxed, like in Maria, where are you going? Like Coco? Um, I mean, Coco and Daytona's phenomenal grew up going there. But I think, I mean, the Gulf water, we live here, but the Gulf water, like when you can walk in like waist height and still see your feet's nice first, you know, over here, it's a little darker. And a guy asks, it's okay, since you are incredibly athletic, how do you do on a skim board? Uh, haven't skim boarded in a while. Used to be good at it. I caught a tow a couple of times, you know, you like bang the sand off the back of it. Yeah. And bang your toe. It's been a couple of decades, but we could try again. Awesome. Thank you for your time, Blake. Thank you. All right. Good question. Great job, Zach. Great question, Zach. Okay. Dude, sorry if the, this is so hot. It's so hot. This has been great. I've enjoyed it. It's been an awesome day. We appreciate you coming here and doing this with us. And we like checked the box. We not only built a playground for a kid fighting cancer, but got to hang out on construction site. That's right. With the boys. Pretty cool. Yeah. Is it a signal? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Let's go outside of the sauna. Yeah. But this in your vlog. Do you film the Zach? What's up, Father of three BFT, Honk, Batgirl, Connor and Zach. Back girl, there's a throwback. Question for guys on grit. What's the most inconvenient minor injury that a man that a guy would have to play through the pain slash demonstrate graded an office job? Like an injury where you have to go to work? Yeah, paper cut. Let's see. I blister on your foot. I broke my foot. Big cat got bit by a dog. Kine stones. Minor thing that you play through. No, for an office job. That I got to play through. Confused on the question. So the question is like at what what is too weak of an injury to call in sick for work for? Got it. So like if you got a sprained ankle, but it's really bad. Yeah, you can't do that. You got to go to work. I think I broke my foot came into work. Yeah, you got to go to work. Yeah, I think honestly, you can you can take work off for nothing. Like you can lie about an injury, which is actually more masculine migraine than actually having like a small injury that you do call in sick. I think it also depends on how it happened. If you like say break your leg because you got hit by a car, that's totally fair to be like, hey, I need a couple days. If you break your leg because you were like, you know, skiing out of a helicopter or that's awesome or playing like a shitload of pickup basketball. It's like, fuck, I should, you know, I'm a grown adult. I probably shouldn't have been doing this stuff to put myself in harm's way. I got to go to work back when I lived in Austin. I dislocated my shoulder really bad, had to go to the hospital. They couldn't get it back in for about an hour and a half, two hours. And I told my boss that I was going to miss work the next day because I dislocated playing rugby. But in reality, I dislocated it playing kickball, adult league kickball. Can't do that. But it's like what I could say that. Yeah. When I broke my finger playing goalball on the YAC, where you just lay down on the ground, blindfolded and roll a ball back and forth. That was a tough one to be like, hey, or when I when I had a tear of my hamstring running from egg toss, those are ones that's just like, you don't want to tell anyone. Yeah, it's way cooler if you like tear your hamstring barefoot running on a field because because the grass is good. Yeah. Yeah. Because one because Max called me a pussy and then we went down the line of calling each other pussies. I don't think anyone called me a pussy. I think I was called myself a pussy. No, it was it was it was going to be just me or just Max running until he called me out. And then it was just everyone has to run. He knew what he was doing. It was so easy. I actually I actually looked at the guys from UNC and I was like, watch this. He's going to do it in a minute. I fully admit how easy it like I could do the same to you. Oh, yeah. It's just we have a problem as guys. And then PFT has a problem where we just yell at him for doing athletic things. And he's like, no, I can do it. I can do it. Or again, I'm retired from running. I'm a yoga guy now until we have like one thing pop up being like, hey, run. Yesterday, we were at Florida State and we were doing like an explosive squat to see our explosive numbers, which couldn't be worse thing for PFT to do. And I physically had to go over and pull you off of the machine. He did. Yeah. I listen, I see dudes competing. I want to compete. Sorry. I started a new job three weeks ago. My new boss took me golfing. I'm a bogey golfer. I was probably plus 50 through nine. The lights were too bright, got too nervous. What? Just absolutely no grit. We plus 50. How do I get gritty? That's not even being able to hit the ball like five feet. Yeah. How do I get gritty on the golf course? Absolutely not switching the lefty. You don't have to get gritty on the golf course. Could you imagine like this is a real thing that I think a lot of dudes probably have to struggle with is like they golf is part of their job in some capacity and being that bad. Hank, I wasn't talking about you and being that bad has got to be absolutely miserable. I think it matters. It matters big time. What kind of job you have? Like if you're in a sales job and you're hitting plus 50 through nine, you're not closing any deals fired. You should be fired if it's like an outside sales role. Yeah, you're going to be out with clients. I'm sorry, it's not going to work out. Now, if it's like customer service and you're doing a good job like making fun of yourself as you as you mess up, that could be a good thing. So I need to know what kind of job this guy. If it's like manual labor and your boss was just like, let's go and play some golf. That might also be a good thing. Just be like, as long as you like the sports gay. Yeah. And they'll be like, yeah. OK, respect. You got to just you got to just get really, really good and secret and then show up and and and be awesome and be like, yeah, I watched one YouTube video, boss. That's what that would be my advice. Love the show. Great interview with Coach Belichick. It's such a great lesson each time you have a big time coach on the show. Question about grit from a guy also named Zach. Why is it harder to stay gritty about small daily habits than about big dramatic goals? I don't know. We're all lazy. By the way, I would disagree with that. Well, aside from that, just popped in my head. We learned a fun fact in the van. Zach, what's your middle name? Anthony. So what are your initials? Z. C. Or Z. A. C. So it's Zach. Yeah. Fucking Ross. It's pretty cool. Yeah. So anytime you get something monogram to just say Zach, just say Zach. Yeah. Shout to my mom. I don't really I don't I disagree. I don't agree with what they said. I do. You're just like day to day, like overall, you can be gritty, but day to day, you can be lazy like, oh, like I'll do the dishes tomorrow. That's what you say. Oh, I thought he was saying the opposite where it's easier to be gritty about day to day. Small. Can you read it again? Read again. He wasn't listening. Hank, I was listening. Why is it harder to stay gritty about small daily? Oh, yeah. Yeah. He's right. Big dramatic goals. So I agree with this guy. Good point. Excellent point guy. I don't know because yeah, if you really care about your long term goal, goal on something, then you're going to stick to it. What were you saying? Goal. If you really care about your long term goal, then you're going to stick to it because like you actually care about it. And that's like why you do everything in your day to day life. But like this, you don't really care about mowing the lawn. Yeah. And you can always just do it tomorrow. Right. That's really right. But tomorrow's never promised. Yeah. I mean, this is this is every person in the world where it's like trying to trying to get daily habits, routines, and it's hard to do. But if you're like, hey, I have a goal, a five year plan, you can you can visualize it. That's how I end up in most of my situations. All right. Last one. Most of your situations like dunking. Yeah. I've read everything. Six back six back. I got why the buddy pregnant. I got a few of those today. Lefty golfing. Lefty golfing. It's been going well, though. I posted a picture of me last night that I've never looked fatter. Yeah, that was crazy. Now, that was a horrendous picture. Where was it? The one where you're sitting in front of any woodhead? The client of the world. I said, you saw me taking a picture. Wait, Vanny, what? It was in that picture. I couldn't see it. Max blocked the whole thing. It was the worst picture of me ever taken. You saw me taking the picture. Whatever you did. I said, turn off the light. I'm taking a picture. Yeah, but you didn't. You didn't tell me you're doing a panoramic panorama where it's like it spreads them out like 50 percent. Did your phone aid up all the memory on your phone? You got it. Last one. In a golf caddy in the past 10 summers or a movie Chicago in a few weeks, I've been a golf caddy the past 10 summers. Frankly, I'm not making as much money as I like. I'm thinking about cadding on weekends once I start my job to help get some money saved up. I'm broke as shit right now. Is this gritty and strategic or corny in a bad way to start post grad life in a new city? No, that's gritty. Mm hmm. I like that move. This guy's got grit. Yeah, gritty is hell. Gritty is hell. It's good hustle. I'm looking at the picture. I don't. It means for it to. It's bad lighting. I don't think you look that bad. No, he looks pretty bad. That's the worst picture of Max ever seen. And it's actually it's very unfair because Max, you look good. You look slim. You do look powerful. Nobody looks her best post 10 hours in a car through different states fueled entirely on gas station snacks. It was a lot going on because I was trying to take a picture to post it, but it was also over time of the Spurs game. I was watching on my phone. I was trying to get the battery off. It's a lot going on. My bad, Max. Sorry about that. Yeah, it's OK. I have enough bad angles out there. It doesn't really affect me too much anymore. That's my bad. All right. Good show, boys. Numbers. 101 12. Nice guess, Hank. Troll. He's on his troll. That was a funny. No, that was a good bit. He's on his troll. That was another one of Hank's little situations that he finds himself on. He's on his troll ship. Right. It's going to be a long couple days. I'm going to go 61. So tired. Yeah. When you get tired, then you get you get loopy. All right. Seventy seven. Anyone else? It is sixty five. Hmm. Good. No one wants to get one anyway. When that happens, I hope that my number isn't. I know. I won one of those in. I won one thing. It's the worst. It's the worst. Don't tell me. I don't even want to know that I won. May 20th. Shout out. Happy birthday to hard factor. Will also shout out to Jason Worth. Not for life. World Series champion. Shout out to Patrick Ewing. He had to take his dick to the side of his leg. It was so big. Happy birthday to David Wells. And then on Thursday, it's Josh Allen's birthday. Happy birthday, Josh Allen. Happy birthday to Bobby Cox, RIP. Happy birthday to Crispin Wah. I can't believe that's crazy. That's crazy. Whoa. I also covered all the bases. I don't know. There might be somebody online be like, I can't believe BFT forgot Crispin Wah's birthday. And then Hank will be like, oh, BFT is so bad at this. Crossface crippler. How can you forget? I can't believe we did a fucking 10 minute segment about Alcoraz and Sinner sucking each other off when it was just a totally fake. Yeah, I'm sorry. That was crazy. I bookmarked it in the middle of the game last night. And I was like, I'm going to go back and revisit this. And then I forgot to go back and revisit it. And it was in my bookmarks because I was going to use it for today's show. And then it turns out there's a fucking tennis central account. All right, see you. Love you guys.