PMS 2.0 1537 - Wrestlemania 42 Recap, Adam Schefter, PGA Tour CEO Brian Rolapp, Andrew Whitworth, Iman Shumpert, Dr. David Chao, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

Hello beautiful people and welcome to our Humb of the Boat, the Thunderdom on this overreaction Monday. Happy 420. This program begins now. Sports are the greatest and we had a fantastic weekend of playoff sports. The NBA kind of boring but playoffs are happening. The race to the ultimate prize in basketball. Yes, that's right. Larry O'Brien. That's what everybody's looking for. Started this weekend and Connor will have a full breakdown. He watched every single moment of every single game which we certainly appreciate. Then the NHL playoffs, they had a massive weekend. Started between two old giants deciding to just start and scrap as soon as the puck is dropped. Obviously you got Brady Kuchuk, USA. Team USA hero and leader in Churper on the bench and then you got Jordan Stahlsley on the other side. Hey boys, you want to start the playoffs or to fight? Yeah, fuck it. Let's fucking do it. Yeah. Okay, for the good of the game. And then the boys throw down in the middle of Carolina. Ottawa. Now a couple big shots were landed by both sides but that's how the NHL playoffs kind of started and their entirety of the weekend was electrifying. The NHL playoffs are something that if you watch you're gonna get captivated, you're gonna get mesmerized. And all the fliers want to go to big time, went over to Pittsburgh playing once again tonight in Pittsburgh by the way. You're gonna see something that's especially gonna fall in love and the games are gonna be exhilarating. A lot of NHL games great. A lot of NBA games kind of a little bit of a bummer but nonetheless we're in playoff season. We're thankful for that. We got games tonight in the playoffs. We cannot wait to watch in the NHL and the NBA. The Toxic Tables here at Boston Connor and at Ty Schmidt. Calm and incredible weekend of playoff action out there. Yeah, it was the best. I mean you mentioned it. The NHL start to finish always delivers the NBA. You know it's gonna take a little bit just to get into it when it comes to competition wise but that's why this is fun. You get to kind of poop on all the dumpy teams unless you are Evan Fox the number one seed pistons lose to the Magic which was an absolute joke. I think it's the first time ever or maybe the fourth time ever though it was a wire to wire victory for an eighth seed over a number one seed but now it was fantastic. I mean can't can't really mention the weekend without mentioning that neck brace though. I know it was a little tough for you as well. No kidding. Yeah it was it was it was quite a Vegas weekend you know and the thing that I didn't think was possible was actually possible. I still don't know how. Ray Orton lost. Yeah. And doing so try to break my neck. After my neck had already been busted by Jell-O Roll's big ass smaller than he was. Big ass crashing through commentators just feet in front of Michael Cole and the boys who were forced to watch us. Yeah. Jell-O Roll and I have been the best friends and then all of a sudden a couple weeks ago he pops on the screen and starts to say I'm gonna check you I'm gonna check you I'm gonna do this I'm gonna do this. It's like Jell-O what do we do? I was just there for the Grand Ole Opry when he went in there what are we talking about. He said well why'd you tell Randy to attack me and then he said you know what this for everybody. Two more figures breaks me in half. Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on. I'm by my center. My whole body just loses its senses. Cody Rhodes is clapping. Obviously everybody thinks he's a hero. He might be. He might be. This guy just might be. Yeah. I don't know how he was able to get that win over Randy Orton who's everything perfect with professional wrestling. Cody Rhodes somehow hits the crossroads on Randy. You know why? Because Randy was a little bit distracted. Because Randy wanted to stab my neck. In half. I'm already in the neck brace. In the back the doctors say you need to keep stability in your neck. I said well I'm gonna go ref just in case something happens. You know I'm gonna get ready. Charles Robinson goes down. Randy attacks me. Maybe he didn't know it was me. Yeah maybe. Maybe. It could have been confused. Make sense. Felt like he knew. I don't know. A lot of physicality in that man. Said everybody. Yeah. First phone call after we decided we had to save the business. I told him kill everybody. That's why I told Jell-O. Jell-O was like you told him to attack me. I said no I told him kill everybody. I didn't know you're gonna be sitting out there. He did kill you. He killed me too. This is what happens when you dance with Viper the apex predator. All I was trying to do is motivate and inspire. I was trying to tell him that for future generations of wrestling we need you to go ahead and get the strap. Get the title. Get to the top of the card so everybody else can fall. Said baby it ends. With that. People are asking I appreciate C2's or C5's. They got scans coming back one more. Yeah. Good luck. Geez. Could be anywhere in there. I'll tell you what. I've been wearing this thing since I got jelly rolled. Yeah. I got jelly rolled. Yeah you did. That'll happen. I've been wearing this just to keep it secure. They ran the scans. I'll get it back tomorrow morning. I'm very grateful and hopeful that I'll be completely healthy. But there is some soreness obviously. Got some cuts and bruises too. Hand right here cut. Well I think that's because the table exploded. Yeah it could be. Okay I got some shrapnel. Somehow got a splinter in my crotch. I think it's because of what happened to the table. I mean there was a lot that happened out there and you know I did want to let everybody know that I am okay just in case people were worried because I did seem lifeless there for a bit. Yeah we were. And I heard a couple of people and I said you know what I got to let them I am very okay. Actually this is how I feel. So I would like to let everybody know that although the mission was supposed to be Randy Orton saving the business I think what happened instead was Coda Rhodes proved he is the one. And that guy has his eye he's eyeball. Oh boy shut. This guy's face I think he got a right to the right to the thing kind of cut him open and then I think there was a punt that happened afterwards to go ahead and just go ahead and swallow the whole side of his face. Coda Rhodes was obviously very admirable. Randy Orton is still everything that I said he was. But good news is business doesn't need to be saved after all and go for them. And for me I finished my story. He did. Yeah. I came up in the Indies. Yeah he did. I W.A. East Coast. War pig. War pig. Yeah. I went through development. NXT. Let's not forget. And your bar. I was a wrestler trained by Rip Rogers. Yeah. Same guy that trained everybody that's retiring kind of currently. Don't forget your trampoline. Out of OVW. Trampoline growing up. I was champion. Trampoline champion. Now they really go through it. Trampoline wrestling. Yeah. Indie wrestling. Yeah. Undefeated. State title. Normal wrestling. I didn't. I never normally. That's amateur wrestling. Never did that. You would be able to tell if I did because I'd be looking for those cauliflower years immediately. I went through developmental. Let NXT. Yeah. Commentated. And wrestled down there. Stupid and cold. Bingo. Had that happen. Get WWE. Commentated. Lucky to do that. Did pre shows. Lucky to do that. Wrestled. Lucky to do that. Reft. Lucky to do that. Yeah. Managed. Yeah. Lucky to do that. It's been a hell of a run. Thank you wrestler. Congrats. Thank you wrestler. Hell of a run. Thank you wrestler. Did it all. It was an honor to be over there. And you know maybe I took it too far and tried to motivate my friends saying the things that I was saying. Yeah. Sometimes when you're trying to motivate something. That did feel good. I must add the neck was hurting every step. Obviously. Great possible. Great possible. Thank you. Yeah. I had to hold it together. And you know a lot of people said like what if I did count that three? Would that account it? I'm one. Never know. Yeah. You were saying that right. Yeah. You had the stripes on. We'll never know. We'll never know. And I thought Cody was so out. Yeah. It was a tough day. Yeah. It was a tough day. Yeah. Then obviously it's WrestleMania in Vegas. You kind of got to go experience that a little bit. Got to. One played some blackjackers private tables and bopped over to fountain blue at live and 50 cent was there. Oh sick. And I'll tell you what it was an interesting time in life because it was like I was back in the day. You know because I used to go to a lot of clubs. I was back in a club and I was listening to in dunk club with 50 cent and I thought well time is full circle. This is a good way to go out of wrestling and you can find me in that club and we had a great time in there. Oh yeah. 9 year anniversary of that. That was a trip back in time in there. Oh yeah. Big Mike taking care of us. We appreciate big Mike. Always. I'll tell you what I learned a lot about big Mike post the evening that we had but D-Bot what a time in there. Saw Cameron in there. Yeah. Tony. Yeah. Yeah. What? Oh murder. What? 50. Obviously still got it by the way. All of them. Get Richard Dytrine. No skips. All haters. Best album of all time. Got a chance to experience it. And it was a blast. I mean we did a Vegas. We did a Vegas. It's been a while since since I've been in nightclub. Me too. Traditional. They still the same. I inhaled some smoke at one point. I was like oh there it was. That's 21 year old me right there. That's the actual smoke. Yeah. Fog machine. We're at another place. They still got his fastball though but I'm glad you know you're an old school dude. You know didn't let didn't let the little bumps slow you down man. We had a good time. Great night. Obviously rough night for you. Jelly bubble. Randy. Cody. It was tough. Remember you powered through. We had a great night. Mania always brings it. Night two was awesome as well. I enjoyed it. It sucks. I saw Sam put the picture out. It's official. Yeah. You're out of business. It's good right. I said it man. That does suck but I will be watching. They might have got me back in. Yeah. I'll tell you. I was pretty intrigued by a lot of the things that I saw as well. Which is fascinating because I couldn't tell them. Okay. Yeah. Sure. And they don't want to talk to me either. I'll tell you what. I think it is a good time for me to leave the business. I think right now is probably a good time for me to head out. I think that's probably a good decision. And I'll tell you what. There was a couple of people that said some rude things. Omar got a run the sports center account. His name is on the sports center account. Yep. Even a sports center is a show with a lot of people. Omar runs the sports center Instagram account. Yeah. That's who I was talking to right there. Had to do it. Omar's a sled. You know he's sitting right there. That was awesome. Anybody could have got it. I mean there was a fat Sino on this side I gave it to. There's a little kid called him the ugliest kid in the building. That was rude of me. He came back double middle fingers right to my face. There were some rude interactions out there. And I was probably the reason for him. I was saying a lot of things. Okay. I was just trying to motivate my guy. That's all. People are saying really mean stuff right there. They're they're telling me that I need to maybe just be evicted from society. Oh that's just. Yeah. There was some of that. There was some of that. I'm going to let everybody know there was some of that. But on that note it was probably my fault because as I was trying to motivate Randy all I wanted him to know is that everything else was shit and he was the king. It turns out the American nightmare still got the throne. Yeah. That guy's a real deal brother. Yes. Yeah. He is. That cut. Is there a worn out for his arrest here though. Like if he ever comes back to Indy. For what he did here. Yeah. I won't press charges. Okay. That whole thing's done. Respect. Water under the bridge behind us. We might have to the wrestling business just kind of rear view mirror and to the wrestling business. I'd like to say thank you. Thank you so much. Thank you. Well done. Take a bow. Let's get some sports. One half of the hammer. Cowboys AP town. What do we need to be looking at tonight and what are the trends telling us about this particular playoff that maybe will make me get a crown like I'm Cody Rhodes. So tonight we are back on the court and the ice for both sports. NBA has three games tonight. There is not a spread lower than six and a half points. I believe this league sucks. What are we doing man. I was told I was told when we get their playoffs. Good game. We did warn everybody. Hey the first round probably normally sometimes always sucks as well. This is kind of how the league goes. But over the weekend to start the playoffs the favorites were six and two straight up and six and two against the spread. Your losers the Detroit Pistons and the Houston Rockets. Those were the two teams that didn't do what they were supposed to do. Obviously the KD injury through a little bit of a wrench in there. That one was basically a pick them at tip. So really the Pistons really ones that screwed the pooch this week there. And then when you go to the NHL side of things what happened the Pistons were really the only favorite to screw the pooch. The Pistons didn't show up. Pat we got jumped right at the beginning of the game. The magic came out. God of lead and anytime we wanted to come back we made it close. We had no chance and they hit a three. It was terrible. OK. So the Detroit Pistons are the number one seed in the Eastern Conference and we lost to the Orlando Magic. What's the word people say though. What's the word people say. Rhymes with a lot but it's not I'm not saying it. It's too early to say it. Fraud. No. Fraud. Fraud. I forgot what the word was. That what that is what people would say in this particular situation. It's one game. It's one game. Why is everybody bearing a team for one game. And I'm only saying that strictly because we're about to get into the NHL. Yeah. Time is going to break down what happened. So I would like to be able to utilize this excuse in about 35 40 seconds or so whenever we get into the NHL conversation. But on that note you guys were supposed to be the ones this year like the actual this was the year and then all of a sudden Orlando who was in a play in and to play. Yeah. Yeah. Paula Bank Carrow was getting run out of the building in Orlando. Now he's leading the team to beat the hell out of the number one seed. Is it. Are you guys done before this thing even begins. And I read a stat 11 straight playoff losses. Yeah. That's that's that's that. People are saying that the magic actually lost in the play on game play in game on purpose. So they didn't have to play the Celtic so they could play us. I don't like that one bit but I will say this. Cade Cunningham showed up 39 points. No one else on the team showed up Tobias Harris had 17. Every other player had single digits Jalen Durand. He's like our all pro center. He needs to step it up here. And other than that like anytime we had a little bit of momentum where we might come back they would just hit a three and they out physical does Detroit teams cannot get out physical. So that was the story of the game. OK. Number one seed will lose everyone so well. You guys will get back in there. We'll get back in there. I'm not a player. I'll do a play in a young team. That's what happens. Oh because normally one seed wouldn't be a young team. You know normally they'd be pretty comfortable with the moment. Now you guys get a big dance and all of a sudden your dancing shoes disappear. Amen. That's not good. Back then. I like that. All right. Cade is Cade playing. Cade 39 point. He was awesome. They're for all. I love Cade. So you guys think as a team. What's a blow. One for 39. Cade went for 39 Tobias 17. Everyone else single digits. The other guys need to step up Jalen Durin our center got out physical last night. That can't happen. He will bounce back. I trust these guys. I trust the coach. They'll be OK. I like the way you said out physical instead of what you wanted to say. I think everybody else was saying. Yeah. I don't like that because you just remember that all these guys. OK. People need to remember this on your net and the rest of me. And maybe if they're sitting in front row all these guys could snatch you by your next. Yeah. Seriously. They lift you up like a movie. Mm hmm. And do what they want. We are. They're not here right now. No they're not. And he's done. And people are saying that the Detroit Pistons are a bunch of fraud. I want to say it. You guys wanted to say it again. I'm not saying they wanted to say it. I didn't know what we were going to say. So I just you yelled into the mic. You can say it. OK. NHL playoffs obviously happened this weekend. Four and three straight up were the favorites. Con man. I heard the NHL playoffs were electrifying while we were doing WrestleMania. Fantastic. You mentioned the Caine Senators. It started with a throw down fight. It was the first game to kick off the entire playoffs and it was wonderful. Brady Kachuk Jordan Stahl basically just throwing bombs. This is what hockey is all about. We talk about the moments that playoffs have. This is going to be one of them when we look back on it once this thing is said and done like hey yep someone's hoisting the cup. How did this thing start. Boom with this flying after this it was pretty much a tame game. Simple to nothing beat down. Logan Stankov and do the stanky leg. He scored the first goal and that was all she wrote in that one. The next game unfortunately for you was Flyers pens. Flyers pens. I mean hey it was a good game. It's a rivalry game. This thing's going seven no matter what. So I want to be too too upset. But yeah third period one one game and Flyers just kind of ran away. They scored two goals. Rusty actually put one in before it was all said and done for the pens. But that one right there was kind of your game winner. Flyers march into Pittsburgh and you are unfortunately one game closer to possibly wearing a suit with that bet with the governor. Yeah I saw a lot of people talking about stats about if you win the first one of a seven game series what's the light. Not this year. You win the entire thing. Just look at the Flyers' likeliness to win the cup. And then let's look at those stats and then let's look at Sydney Crosby stats in that entire. Tonight game two in Pittsburgh Pennsylvania. Sydney Crosby and the boys will attempt to get back into a series. You go oh two in the Philly. Oh I want that. It did. That's not happen. If that happens you're dead. It's not happening. Hey what team Sydney Crosby on. Not the team that would ever go oh two in the Philly. Big no. I hope not. It's a bit away from you thinking about that. Are people calling you guys. No. They're not wrong. No. You pig. That's what people are saying. No. Let's get away from all of it. Let's go to the NFL please. Can we go to the NFL. Hell yeah. Please we go again. Huge trait. Dexter Lawrence leaves the Giants and heads to the Sints and Addy Bengals. What. Joining us now is a man who might tell us how the hell that all went down. Senior NFL insider for ESPN Adam Schafter. Yes. Chef. Chef. He see to through C five. I'm getting the scans back in the morning. You could tweet it. You're welcome. Now let's talk a little bit about the end of Dexter Lawrence. He's a member of the Cincinnati Bengals. I had no idea that the Bengals did this. I had no idea that they would trade the number 10 overall pick. I had no idea that they work an extension for $28 million. He'd be up. He's through 2028 with the Bengals now with an outsider. How does come together. This is a gigantic move I think for the team in Cincinnati. Well what I would say here Pat is that it had been brewing for a couple of weeks and the Giants and Bengals have been talking really for the last week and the Bengals were willing to offer the 10th overall pick in this draft. The Giants wanted more. They went back and forth and I think it became apparent to the Giants that they weren't going to get more than the 10th overall pick and ultimately they felt like it was in their best interest to go ahead and make that deal. They pulled the trigger on that deal on Saturday night. They get back the 10th overall pick and this really to me is interesting on so many levels because now the Giants have two of the top 10 picks in this draft. The two New York teams have 25% of the top 16 picks in this draft and the Giants here are going to be able to get two real difference makers for John Harbaugh in his first year as the head coach from the Bengals standpoint. Massive season ahead for Cincinnati. Huge year for Joe Burrow and the Bengals know that they have to win for Joe Burrow and they have to win now. So they figure that the player that gives them the best chance to have the best season this upcoming season a critical year is not any player they could take a 10 but rather Dexter Lawrence and obviously they've gone through the mocks to project who they might or might not get. It's not a deep draft at the defensive tackle position to begin with and so the Bengals figure that this is their best way to use that pick and they make the trade first time in franchise history that they've ever traded a top 10 pick for a player which obviously is enormous. I love that. Shout to Cincinnati trying to work on something that they have a fundamental issue with which is defense as well. Obviously whenever they pay T in Jamar and they have Joey everybody's like yeah we get it you're going to be able to score points. We ever be able to win an NFL game when it matters though if you don't have a defense. They obviously make some moves. Interesting with Trey Hendrickson situation over the last couple of years he's on the way out. Dexter Lawrence obviously interior defense alignment. Hembo Center versus that. Bengals detackles ranks since 2021. In sacks 41.5 that's 28th in the NFL. 53 tackles for loss that's 29th. 249 pressures that's 28th. That's all since Gino Atkins retired. So in the middle of that D-line they have had a lot of problems and obviously Jonathan Allen comes in and also Sexy Dexy they're trying to fix that thing immediately and in the AFC North if you've got a good front you can win. You have to have a good front to win. So I like that they're investing there congrats to them. Let's talk about a front. Trent Williams gets a two-year 50 million dollar deal. Is that what I heard? Two-year 100. What is the two-year 50 million dollar extension? They were not going to let him out of the building we would assume and the San Francisco 49ers always having to make things happen for their players. Now this deal had been at the finish line for about two weeks now and within the 49ers building they thought every day was the day it was getting done and today the agent obviously announced that it was done but they've been at this spot going over some language here for about two weeks. There was never a doubt that this deal wasn't getting done. The 49ers obviously have put a huge priority on Trent Williams. You see what he's accomplished. You see what the team has done this offseason in terms of adding Mike Evans and Christian Kirk and bringing back Drake Greenlaw and now obviously retaining Trent Williams on a two-year deal that includes 37 million dollars guaranteed. This was obviously a huge move ahead of the draft on Thursday night. The 49ers are sitting there in the first round later on. We'll see whether or not they stay there. They may not but it's a situation where now if you draft an offensive tackle, if you draft an offensive tackle, you don't have to rush them along. You've got Trent Williams and the feeling in the organization had been look we want this guy this deal is going to get done and the agent announced that it was done this morning. Trent Williams obviously a monster fantastic football player. First ballot hall of famer we think. Yeah. We don't know what a first ballot hall of famer looks like anymore for professional football but we think he would definitely be a first ballot hall of famer if all the voters are doing their things so fast, so nimble, so experienced. Now can the Niners win a Super Bowl out there? Can they do it? They've had to deal with all the issues of a team that has won the Super Bowl. All their star players go from not making all the money to making all the money. They've had to go through different iterations. They obviously find their quarterback. They've had to pay the quarterback a lot of money. It's fascinating the kind of story this Niners team has been on. Now they need to win a Super Bowl. I'm excited to see if they can stay healthy and do that. Let's continue the trade conversation and business conversation of the NFL before we move to the draft. Good con man. Yeah, Chef. The big news out of you this morning, AJ Brown is now likely to be traded to New England. I know a lot of people thought that might happen, then didn't think it would happen, but you put in this tweet out was huge news just for people to really believe it now. What is kind of this status? Is this just something that both teams are in agreement? June 1st will come. He'll get traded and what do you see kind of the compensation to be, will it be a first round pick? Will it be a second and a third? What is kind of the next steps here for AJ Brown to be a New England Patriot? Well, there is no agreement on the deal right now, but I think that both sides expect that eventually, once they talk closer to the deadline, that they will be able to work out an agreement. New England wants him. Philly is open to trading him. And I think in the end, he will get traded. My guess is it'll involve a future one at some point in time. I don't know that it'll be 27 or 28. The two sides still have to figure that out and see where they wind up. But I think the Eagles had been looking for a first round pick at least for AJ Brown. And I think they felt like they could get it and still feel like they can get it in the end. So my guess is that trade will include a first round pick in the end when the two sides wind up agreeing to whatever deal they come up with. There's not another team out there that I can see other than New England, where AJ Brown is going to wind up. And the news this week would be that they're not going to be doing this deal before or during the draft, because obviously as we've talked about, the cap ramifications are such that New England would have to take on too much money to trade AJ Brown before June 1st. They're going to wait till June 1st. Hold on, Shepty. Do I have Mandela effect here? Haven't we just post June 1 designated things a lot in the history of the NFL? Why does this one seem so like, hey, gotta wait till it's summer? Like legitimately, why? Why? Because haven't we done this in the past where we've just said, hey, this is this and we're doing it June 1st or June 2nd? That's for a player being released. You can't designate a trade as a June 1st trade. And so there's a big difference there. And obviously, like it'll involve picks, but I'm not expecting that trade clearly to involve picks in this draft. It's not like New England's going to be picking for filled. They don't have the agreement in place yet. So they'll come to an agreement at some point here right around June 1st. And at that point in time, AJ Brown will be allowed to go to New England. But the rules of releasing a player don't work the same way that they do with trading a player. Got it. Okay. So thank you for the clarification there. And I like the fact that they're all just like, hey, we'll late, late May, afraid as hell. Hey, Jay, just hang tight. Okay, we gotta do this. This entire thing is we got to wait till May draft obviously gigantic. There's been some big conversations about things should be designated before the draft even begins, especially in the host city. Diggs has a question for you, Chefty. Yeah, I do. Chefty reports coming out today that the looks like their sealers are not going to hear from Aaron Rodgers about whether he wants to play next year and before the draft. Who said that? I believe I saw a Pella Sarro report. No, Pella Sarro report which is chefters peer. We've been seeing you sharing each other's shit by the way. So and you know, it felt like we were going to get an answer for the draft or at least that's what the rumors were and we're they're talking every day and now well, ours going to be QB one during OTAs. What's the latest on Mr. Rodgers? Well, it's exactly what we talked about where they essentially said that they bought initially it'll be about a 30 day window before they got an answer from Aaron Rodgers that 30 day window came and went then they were hoping that they would get an answer before freeing. See that obviously came and went then they were hoping to get an answer before the draft and obviously that feels like now it's going to come and go without answer from Aaron Rodgers and obviously the question will linger out there until the headlines. So is this just them publicly saying 30 day? Yeah. Like are they talking there? Like where do we know where the whole thing is? Like how is this become our expectation? Because we as people who have dealt with Aaron Rodgers, okay? Not as much as maybe some folks who are with them every single day if they're a team and everything like that. But we have obviously been does Aaron know? Like whenever you they come out and say, Hey, this is a 30 day thing. Was he informed of that? Or because there's a chance he's literally off the grid somewhere and has no idea that no I'm not saying that's the actuality but I'm just saying this dude is not like the others. Okay? This guy and people are like no he's not blah blah blah it's like there's a reason he's allowed to be the way he is though is because of how damn good he is at football and has been. You ask any player or any coach they say Aaron Rodgers is that guy. Now on that note does Aaron know the Steelers want him his quarterback? Is that like how is he looking at a contract? Yeah, yeah. How much do we know? Like what do we know about that entire stuff? Chef? Do you know anything? Yeah, here's what I do know. I know that some people had suggested that well maybe it's not done because money is an issue. And I just was told that money is not an issue here. The contract's not to hold up. It's just Aaron taking time and doing what he does and operating on his own time schedule, whatever that is when he feels like he's ready to give an answer for whatever reason. I think there's probably like again I think it's always dangerous to speak for him. I don't want to do that but this is going to linger for a little bit it seems like. Okay so contract you said there so that's already the business. What's that? Contract's not an issue. So the business has already been figured out between the Steelers and Aaron. I don't know if it's been figured out but I was told the contract won't be an issue. That's it because Aaron whenever he was on with us we haven't heard anything from Aaron's camp right? Has anybody heard anything from him? No. Since the time he was on with us. He said I don't have like a contract offer. Right in that how he explained it. Correct yeah he said he hasn't received any sort of contract offer yet. When was that? That was in the Olympics. The Olympics. Yeah but I'm on the Olympics. So I wonder if that has that changed do we know? Do we know if that's changed? Because I just I'm asking around I was told it could this be contractually related and I was told no that's not the case at all. I'll tell you what we've been down this road a couple times before until it comes. The 30-day thing is laughable. Someone who said okay we need your answer in 30 days like what are we doing? You know that's not happening okay? So all the draft though I think is a reasonable expectation. I agree. Like I think their draft is a reasonable expectation especially with 12 picks and every is a new era but still trying to go for it. It's like I think that's a reasonable expectation. I just wonder behind the scenes because what we've heard from Aaron is that he died. I don't even have a we don't even have like a thing is what he said a month ago or whatever. If he hasn't said anything or hasn't come out publicly from them we're gonna not assume anything. Smart right. Okay we are not gonna assume anything. Can't because he will get his messaging out. Certainly. We know that. Yeah yeah. Okay we we definitely and you know that. Yeah you know that more than anybody. So I think the draft is reasonable but also there's a lot of things that have to go into that I guess that decision to be made. Good luck out there Steelers. Just pick one. Good luck out there Steelers fans that's kind of what it is. Let's continue to talk about the draft which is going to be spectacular this Thursday night round one. Obviously on ABC ESPN NFL Network will be live YouTube ESPN plus Disney plus TikTok and anywhere else that we miss. X live. We'll be all over there. We cannot wait. Coach Cowher will be joining us. AQ Shipley will be joining us wherever the big guys get drafted which could be a thing but obviously there's some big names that are starting to cook up for this particular draft and now rumors always this time of year interesting. Go ahead D-Bud. Absolutely. A quarterback who will definitely be in Pittsburgh. Ty Simpson I just want to know your thoughts on him and does that mean he's basically confirmed to be a first-rounder and then wide receiver Jordan Tyson heard he had a great pro day and he pretty much locked in to be the top receiver off the board based on what you're here. I don't know if he's going to be a top receiver but he's going to be a top pick. Him and Carnell Tate I think will probably be the first two wide receivers selected. I would think that both have a realistic chance to go within the top 10-12 picks of the draft both will be off the board pretty quickly here. Those two guys Tate and Tyson you see the moves that Tyson made on Friday the Giants spent a lot of time with him. It certainly feels like the Giants have a high level of interest in Jordan Tyson attending their his workout and having dinner with him and doing all those things all the legwork on Jordan Tyson. Tate obviously is still going to be a very high pick. Those will be the top two receivers. What was the initial question? Ty Simpson. Hey on that note just to wrap up your last thought about the wide receivers Tate is currently minus 200 to be the first wide receiver taken on Thursday night on DraftKings currently. That'd be my guess that he would go but I think there's enough Tyson love that it wouldn't shock me if Tyson went but if I had a bet today I would say I feel better about Tate going ahead of Tyson but by the way the Giants the Giants can go Tyson at five. They could do that. They could do that. That's all fluid it sounds like with this particular draft and on that note Ty Simpson now Schefter. Yeah so Ty Simpson I think there are two teams that stand you see that the odds the odds makers are right here the Cardinals and Jets are the two teams. Now the Rams if the Rams had had picked 29 which they traded to the Chiefs for Trent McDuffie the Rams would have given him serious consideration right then and there at 29 and I'm not going to say that they still couldn't take them at 13. My guess would be no but you don't know how the board's going to fall and so to me the odds come back to the Cardinals and the Jets. Now the Jets have the first pick in the second round on Friday night pick 33 the Cardinals are 34 and you know what's fascinating about that is that if we go back to the last week of the season the Raiders kicker Daniel Carlson made a 60-yard field goal against the Chiefs at a legion stadium career-long 60-yard field goal that gave the Raiders the win that knocked them out of the top slot at the other rounds in the draft they kept the first overall pick but they would have had the first pick on Friday night and because of that kick now they don't the Jets do so the Jets what are in position go get Ty Simpson up he's there I think the Cardinals absolutely could come up the board and the Cardinals are listening or at least taking calls on pick number three so I think those calls are expected to pick up this week we'll see where the Arizona stays at three or whether they move out what's the matter Pat your neck bothering you or something I said bother you well if you get my scans before I do which I know you've done before yep okay let me know okay because I would like to get rid of this but you I've learned my lesson there I've I got them okay hey we all we all have our trials and tribulations publicly okay we all we all have that but on that note you just kind of blew my mind there which did kind of whiplash my neck which is obviously C2 C5 kind of thing happening because uh remember Crossroads commentator table yeah 80-yard sprint RKO you said the Raiders don't have the first pick in the second track our second round what so what how how is that so how do they get number one overall I thought that was a big deal it was it was done on straight the schedule so they had the best straight the schedule like the or the worst whichever you want to look at it they got the number one pick now the Raiders Jets Cardinals and Titans all had the same record so they rotate it because they just on straight the schedule so the Jets pick top of round two Cardinals pick up around three Titans pick top around four the Raiders I believe traded the pick at the top around five and it goes like that rotating if Carlson had missed that feel worse Raiders pick up again every round okay holy shit never I'm learning a lot of things right now the post June 1 designation I thought to myself as he was explaining that idiot we talked about this every office that's what I was saying now you're talking about this is a idiot we do a draft spectacular where all we do is commit all of our time towards the draft for some reason it is one of our biggest shows every year and we are very grateful to everybody that watches we should have known that we're in the draft I got we got oh by the way ESPN I'm making or maybe it's the NFL who made the graphic who made it with Chef D wasn't it or I don't know if he made it but he was on the tweet of it somebody announced when they announced that I'm doing pick second round and third round picks for the Colts on Friday night or whatever I'm back excited to do it honored to be a part of it they put Pat McAfee undrafted it's like you can't be doing that I said pick 22 got the car tomorrow Pat Pat you've an idea what you're gonna say when you get up there are you just gonna wing it when on Friday night Friday night brother we got an event on Wednesday we got a diss show we got a fucking first round you had a draft on Thursday three more you're still waiting for a scan yeah I don't even know if I see two or see five pens fires tonight yeah we got pens flyers game tonight what are you talking about chefry but yes I have an idea of what I'm gonna say because I don't know if you saw this I'd like you to be a little bit more efficient on your reporting on the Indianapolis Colts happenings do you have the video of Daniel Jones arriving at the facility today on the Colts Twitter I do believe is what it was you should see this guy's gate oh we're big talking in there okay and after what I just saw Tatum do and what we know Daniel Jones was able to do with his ACL I mean yeah yeah I'm thinking the broken leg on one side torn Achilles on the other is just fine okay I'm thinking we're gonna be a okay at the quarterback position look at that walk look at walk chefy look at that walk a quarter but uh-huh you know what you know it doesn't look good for April 20th agreed 420 happy 420 to you chefy little stoner have it I hope you have an incredible day today uh Alec Pierce he's out what wait what sorry what what happened through the bar did you just get a hundred million dollars wait me out he got the biggest in history and he's done already well Alec Pierce signed a four-year 14 million dollar contract this off season one ankle procedure that was signed on him for roughly three months those long time three months where are we on that one chefy hey hey he was your guest at the top of the show how did you miss it where were you on this one chefy huh why do you ask him about it why do you ask me I didn't know I was supposed to ask about anything I don't worry okay we just got 114 fucking million dollars yeah hey hey he opened the free agent extravaganza on the Pat McAvy show the francy francy the spectacular draft free agency's a frenzy and this is chaotic to think about that Alec Pierce just said a big three months he's at 12 weeks what are we doing man anything else about the coach that we need to know anything else yep Anthony Richardson not there today Kenny Moore is not there today both players have officially requested trades Colts are so dead man Anthony Richardson good luck out there we think if you find your full potential somewhere we will be happy I was a believe our towards the end I had you know because he's upside is crazy good luck seemingly very unlucky Kenny Moore leaving don't love that don't love Kenny Moore leaving at all this dude's an incredible football player he showed up now granted I think there was some injuries maybe uh yeah a little banged up he played but he hits yeah he's in the middle of it there's gonna be a little bit of that I think everybody understands that there's Caledon he's great but Zaire okay he gets traded Green Bay he made what one third of our tackles yeah I think he was in on every single tackle yeah okay he and I obviously had a happenstance that took place but he was fucking every single tackle great player felt like he was in there everywhere yep Pitman yep Pitman Michael Pitman is we love Pitman about Pitman so we're going through a team transition as if we were like the Niners yes at least you got a new GM new coach you sound a negative right now Pat go back to go back to Daniel Jones walk in looking cool we'll be in a good spot all right let's hope that for Friday too let's can we get you announcing a guy with the name Dan Jones or John Smith and maybe they give you the correct phonetic spelling yeah the ocariki thing really came back to get me in a bad way his name's Ocarike but what would they tell you Ocarike spelled it out there for me I'm excited to get back there side stage last time I did the draft pick Roger Gadel looked at me and said this is what you're wearing that's right bro wait wait till you see the neck brace on Friday we hope not we hope there's no actual yeah okay let's all on it's staying on huh how long is the brace staying on maybe he's got a broken neck my scans back 18 months man my scans back to one more and I should know c2c5 c2c5 is where they're looking most important one got closer high on c2 through c5 I told him I felt pretty good because whenever you know when Cameron came up there in the whole place there vibing onkberda was doing a full bang Tony Ayo bucket cap on looks so cool in 50 cents your straps here it was hard not to start bopping a little bit you know there's a lot of this going on because bang when jelly roll jelly rolls you I mean your body loses hope I don't think I've seen a table explode like that yeah I got I literally got I got shards of wood all over my entire body it was a long weekend okay last question here about the draft hopefully though you won't see this after I get scans back tomorrow but once again if you get scans early I would like to sign a thing that says you can break the hippo law okay uh Ty has a last question for you about the draft Shefty Brett Beach said that he expects a lot of trades to happen on Thursday night so he was excited for fans but from what information is out there it seems like most of the teams we hear from are interested in trading back where do you think this is gonna end up like do you think we're gonna see more trades than normal or you know kind of right online with what we've had the last couple of years yeah I think that when you look at the last two years there were five trades on draft night and each of the past two years I mean we might get the same number this year I'm not looking for any earth shattering moves I'm looking for some moves where teams maybe jump up a few spots we'll see how it goes like sometimes a player may fall into a spot like one of the two pass rushers could slide depending on how the draft goes to number five or six so is there a team out there that's willing to jump up there and offer enough to make it happen one of the pass rushers is one of the teams willing to go back I think there's always I think we may get a team jumping up for Ty Simpson in the back of round one the way that the giants went up last year to 25 for Jackson dark that could happen but I'm not looking for more than the five that we got the last two years I think that would be surprising but it's a strange draft in that regard okay I can't wait to see it we've gotten a lot of different reports from different source says from around the league on how they view kind of who's where and it feels like it is a real crapshoot coming on Thursday night after about 12 13 like it feels like there's a real crapshoot so if one team likes somebody very much and they're falling you could see a move up at the tail end of something you might see some teams that like a lot of guys and they're like all right we'll get out of here we don't need to be spending the first round on any of this type of stuff let's go the second round I think there is going to be some action late I think that from my understanding from our conversations around the league I think there's going to be some action late and I think it's not going to be devastating like it's not going to be like a gigantic move but it's going to be a lot of repositioning I think there's a chance that's what I'm saying there are a lot of teams there are a lot of teams that want to move back there are not as many teams right now that want to move up but the draft hasn't started and there's certain guys that haven't fallen to a certain spot to make those teams want to come up yet yet in advance but that could very well happen Thursday all right we appreciate the hell out of you brother you're the man ladies and gentlemen that's Adam Schefter yeah I think like uh I think the tail end of that thing's going to be some action oh yeah from our conversations okay this is me trying to do some journalism as we will guide a five-hour show well maybe shorter we'll see but I think there's gonna be a lot of moves so I think that's gonna reset the clock and always kind of moves a little bit and I think a lot of it is like position-based like there's seven offensive tackles who are supposed to be the best seven of the draft before that drops off if those seven are starting to go in the teens to early 20s then if the team and then later half wants to come up they're gonna have to do that because it falls off until guys are gonna be taken like in the third round ratings are going to be outrageous for this we're so incredibly lucky that we're a part of it a man who was part of the mastermind of creating it all former number two at the NFL I believe the actual title was chief media and business officer okay so that's CMO and CBO I do believe for the NFL was there for over 20 years absolute stallion of a suit oh yeah like an actual absolute stallion of a suit now he's the CEO of the PGA Tour ladies and gentlemen Brian Rollo hey no worry Pat good to see you great to see you as well someone say you're a super suit and I would say that the PGA Tour made the right no suit on yeah no suit on I understand I yeah it's casual got to do it we're in the middle of the season right now we got 22 more events okay we got another major come in May 14th with the PGA championship obviously you're in work mode right now but I think the PGA made the right decision we would like to let you know that from the NFL congratulations yeah thank you no problem feels good okay so whenever you go over there obviously everybody assumes that your experience from the NFL will help the PGA kind of grow and blossom master's numbers up and to the right we assume golf will continue to be that way especially with the news that's happening abroad we'll dive into that but what do you think you bring from the NFL and the growth that you oversaw and saw happen with that league from a broadcast standpoint that you can take to the PGA like how much have you been relying on your information from the NFL well a lot um golf is not football like you know professional golf is not professional football but I will tell you there are things I learned at the NFL and helped do at the NFL that I think can make professional golf better which is why I took the job one thing we were we were just adamant about at the NFL is never sitting still and innovating and then second make sure the product is really good what you watch on a Sunday make sure it's competitively good make sure the rules are right don't be afraid to change rules to make it better and I think that's what we're doing here I think you know we're spending most of our time with a group of players and some outside people trying to figure out how we make the PGA tour product better um and we've got a lot of work to do but I think come this June we're gonna unveil quite a bit and I think it's gonna make not only golf fans happy but it's gonna make sports fans happy because this sport is growing like crazy and we just want them to connect a little bit more with the PGA tour yeah golf is a phenomenal sport I did not play it as a child that much but obviously I've gotten into it as I grow older it's the perfect thing to have on the TV during the weekend especially now with a daughter I think people love the sport obviously a lot of business and everything like that there's a lot of people worried about the sport okay for uh whenever Liv came into this scene there was a lot of worry about what the future was I not golf purist I wish I was that'd be great I'd probably be a much better golfer if I was a golf purist but I'm just kind of outside looking in we all learned a lot about the PGA I think and how it operated then we watched the super duper swing show on that full and it's like the schedule these guys have is insane and then there's no guaranteed money I think there was a lot of things that we kind of learned about the PGA tour through the live but a lot of people thought it was going to divide golf now golf is obviously survived PGA tour is obviously thrived and the future conversations about Liv are what they are right now very very loudly how do you feel about how PGA has evolved since Liv started and what is kind of the vision for you as you go forward with whatever happens with the competition if that makes sense yeah no it makes sense look I think um I think Liv did what the AFL did for the NFL years ago maybe what the USFL did for the NFL years ago is basically competition can make it better and I think what whenever you get competition you end up figuring out what you do well what you don't do well and I think that's what Liv did was expose some things that maybe the PGA tour could do better how we can make it better for fans how we can make it better for professional golfers how we can make it better for our television partners and that's a good thing and I think the changes that the tour has made before I got here the changes we're doing now I think shows that when you do those things fans go to where the best product is and where the best golfers are and where the best athletes are and I think that's really really important so in a lot of ways I think Liv did the professional golf world favor in a lot of ways and so but going but again I spend most my time now thinking about the PGA tour and how we do these things better and so I think the future is really bright for us and I think it's bright for professional golf I think the PGA tour got to showcase how much better it is too through this yeah you know we learned a lot about the PGA tour but then we also learned about a lot of the things the PGA tour has done very well over as we turn over and look at something with a money pot happening with DJ Khaled in the back screaming which I love we the best as somebody trying to win a tournament there was like some things obviously flawed but I think it was a showcase of what the PGA tour was now a lot of the boys on the PGA tour roster took a lot of pride in the fact that they've represented the PGA tour you're going to about to go through a process here where I assume the PGA tour is only going to get bigger and bigger and bigger how is your relationship with the golfers I know that you said you have a lot of meetings with them as you're trying to evolve the sport but what is your relationship like with the golfers and how is it supposed to be you think well it's it's pretty good you mentioned first thing when I got the job in something that maybe some people thought was crazy but I thought it was a good idea was I was going to meet with as many of the PGA tour members as I can and I think I'm up to 85 or something like that and and these aren't short meetings I've spent anywhere from an hour to an hour and a half with them and I've learned a ton but I think they're smart they're driven they know what they want and I've learned a lot talking to them they've given me a lot of good advice so I think I think that's that's that's really important but also I think it's important to remember the PGA tour is different than most professional sports when Liv came along and the PGA tour started started doing things some things differently one thing they did was essentially create a situation in a league where the players actually own part of the tour so if you think about it my shareholders the people that I think most about are actually the players that's not the same in other sports where I came from it was owners and players management and labor was a collective bargaining agreement was much different it's a different feel here when members of the board and the people are the shareholders and they're and their players so when you have that relationship with them I think it's really different and unique but also something pretty powerful where I like to think we're really aligned with where they want to go yeah I would think so too and I think the players obviously they see your resume they hear about what you've been able to accomplish they probably have a lot of respect and trust in what your vision is going to be especially if you're keeping them in the loop and what happened with the last guy that was in your seat you know that was all very public that was all very very very very public let's talk about one of the guys in your locker room that's obviously incredibly important to the game and to our lives I do believe go ahead tone yeah right I had a question because when I was watching yesterday it's like this is so awesome that Scotty and Matt Fitzpatrick sorry we're in the playoff and it feels like Scotty is in the top five and it's not feels like he's in top five every single week how important is that for the tour to have your stars and Scotty being the top five top 10 every single week in contention well I think it helps I think it's a lot but you know Pat you asked me about what I learned from my old job so here's the thing about the NFL I think it'll get to your question in a minute the NFL works because when the cowboys are on television you'll watch or when the Steelers are on television you'll watch or the Giants because they're from a big market but why it really works is when the Bengals are good you'll watch or the Lions are good to watch and so in golf even right up to this lifting there is this perception that hey a tournament is only good if a couple of the top guys are playing or the couple guys on the leaderboard on Sunday when the reality is outside of the NFL I can't find another professional sport where the competitive parity is so tight so the meaning that the difference between the number fifth ranked golfer in the world and the 50th is nothing it's razor thin it's a it's a stroke over four days and so I think when you see Scotty being at the top of the leaderboard it's great and the fact that he is top of the leaderboard almost every week is an amazing athletic accomplishment it's really really hard to do but I also think what you're seeing is this tour is full of a lot of really good athletes and golfers and compelling and we need to do better job exposure but you saw that out on Sunday right you saw Scotty do what Scotty does which is make a weekend run but you saw Matt who and what he did and he consistently he consistently got there and won the tournament and by the way it was by a stroke and a playoff and so I think on any given Sunday that old expression I think it applies to the PGA Tour more than almost any other sport oh so you took that from the NFL okay got it that's what you took that's what you took I respect yeah patented trademark it tell commiss you beat them out to it but it is real that's like Cam Young comes into the scene guys Gary Woodland he eagled on 18 or whatever from like 200 yards there's just like spectacular things happening all around your tour now the last question for you and we appreciate you so much for your time I think it's a very important one because the PGA Tour has always been the best battling against the best and everybody thought that was what's going to happen you know when everybody split divide but now you're in the middle of having to figure that whole thing out D-butt has last question for you here bro yeah we talked about some of the rumors with the other tours and now with big game Brooks coming back to PGA Tour we saw some of the stipulations I guess from his deal is there like a defined path for players to come back to the PGA Tour and is it kind of I guess situational situations are situational with a player by player situation how is yeah I think we're thinking about it um listen we're reading all the same headlines you're reading we don't know what's going on over there we don't know we know those guys are under contract we'll respect that Brooks came back onto the tour because he made a phone call and said look I'm out of my contract I'm ready to come back so we're thinking about it um you know we're we'll react when we have an opportunity to react but right now we're focused on the make the PGA Tour better um but listen I've said it publicly and I'll say it again I'm interested in whatever makes the PGA Tour better that's what that's what that my job is that's what I'm interested in doing and and that has no limit so that's that's how I'll focus on it I appreciate the hell out of what you did for the NFL I appreciate what you did for us okay Brian knows that I'm uh I could you know I could certainly tell people what a lot of people think I actually will say it which causes situations I would say uh Brian you've always been very patient with me and us and very uh giving for us so we are very very grateful for you appreciative of you good luck out there we can't wait to continue to watch and uh I'm excited to see the up and to the right the roll-up effect of the PGA Tour any incredible sport that you guys have well Pat we need to get you guys out and experience a little bit of that so like I need you guys should come to the player championship next year whatever you want we'll get you there we'll set we'll give you a nice setup you guys should come and have fun you're a good man Brian we'll see we will definitely want to come we would definitely want to come we also don't want to ruin any of these things I was at Augusta I watched the Masters last we don't need to be anywhere near okay I don't need to be anywhere near that type of situation but we will certainly evaluate everything else and we'd be honored so we're very appreciative all right we'll see you then how's your game are you how's your game are you asked are you good listen I wasn't that great to begin this job the funny thing is I play less golf in this job than I did before that's the problem so I'm getting worse I'm getting worse now you lost all your bad habits you're only getting better ladies and gentlemen CEO of the PGA Tour Brian Rolla yeah he's a dog yeah yeah I see your tweet I'm not I don't want to bring that up we were getting pseudo sued by somebody within the NFL who has a partnership with the NFL because we didn't clearly pay for graphics at one point but we had highlights so we couldn't use the the NFL's graphics but we could use the NFL highlights so my entire defense was so can I pause the highlight if I pause the highlight and the helmet's on there that's a graphic can't pause okay okay I got you so Brian Rolla I've got to hear me oh yeah I'm really in a full we're using Connor's logos yeah we drove on yeah is this what you want this is what I'm saying good time Brian's like can we please that was a great can we please please we'd love to Brian thank you he's a weapon yeah he can deal with everybody and anything that's why it's perfect hey sports fans the ESPN app has all 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three people are explained for this kind of got back sad a couple times that's a good call yeah right Cody Rhodes got me across Rhodes okay I want for a big right once again I didn't stop doing that but if it was the Oculus that's the Oculus's problem you know jelly roll I did it to him I had a high big whooping one and he whammy hey me he saw it coming I said I'm not doing it again then there I am granted stage of them all he just posted around your nuts my god the bell hasn't rung he's not supposed to beat us in this but we were supposed to beat him at this but we're supposed to beat him down before this match starts so that whenever the match starts he's already battered he's already bruised there's no dot Randy Orton's gonna beat him because he's already beat up hey flip you on that's didn't he yeah he did pretty quickly yeah he knew he's a crafty son of a bitch and that's the thing about me you know I'm growing up done everything in the wrestling business you have okay I've done everything in the wrestling business that's the thing about being new in there though I get so excited I'm like oh here's my moment I'm going with a big one and bang he moves catch his thing I'm upside down now I'm in his armpit I'm in his arms not a good place to be it's like I'm just like hypnotized I can feel my body I can't move it like what am I doing here I didn't know I was this flexible I'm not it hurt everything hurt and then bang right into the mat and then all of a sudden he kicks me out I fucking fall out of the ring it's not it's not a shortfall sack of bones to the ground yeah in my head it was a lot shorter than that's not as I was falling through the sky I was like whenever I'm in a dream and you know you're falling you know that's what I felt like as I was and then that hits ground lose my ear then all of a sudden K books picks me up throws me up on a desk that I burst correct you see that thing debuted okay in an era in which I was on a commentator that's right standing on it on a regular basis trying to get one a little bit thicker problem yeah the hell did he come from good question great question I hadn't seen this ex-convict he was a good man but in this moment I think he got lost in the sauce of the 106,000 people or whatever it was 106,000 tickets being sold to things glittering yeah pull up shrapnel cuts cuts bang bang splinter on my nipples I mean it's a bad spot that I got going on in your artery yeah but I lost my control of my body had to get stretchered out of there they stretched me out after jelly roll jelly rolled me and that was whenever they decided in the back you should probably put a look that guy that got right there what do you say like help you get well soon oh no those marks they aren't like NFL fans no no no they weren't wasting sense of mean things you gotta like lions saying really mean really mean things that was the best that was worth it all and then I came back yeah yeah because I got my body was checked they were worried about my neck but the body was a okay and you know Charles Robinson goes down let me get uh let me get out here now a lot of people are asking if this would have been official if I would have made it to three whatever no okay that's late didn't get you to kind of a little faster I think actually looking back at it that's that's that was the big mistake and uh maybe it was my neck brace probably I should have counted quicker it figured Randy I got that was that kind of says it all because you sprinted down that ramp and you couldn't tie your shoe because of your neck obviously you you get you trip over that shoelace so that's gonna be tough yeah and there has been people that have have not had good runs down there was other people who did not break down going down that ramp this weekend what's that big dog big dog was going 100 miles an hour he did not break down you talk about brawn breaker yeah yeah brawn breaker did nice little spear I think it was uh nearly just a drop yeah I mean we're talking about you because down at the end there there's a little drop off yeah you know and uh did I know that as well I don't know what a psycho yeah brawn breakers back that's good there's a lot of things I saw I was like it's good good internet man is that right Dan how's it did you see that Dan how's it incredible and his group and his group of images which Michael Cole said that's exactly what they wanted to be called Michael Cole said before you cancel me online this particular group of people told me that they want me to call them Housins midgets yes and they were weren't they they showed right up there for Sina Sina did a phenomenal oh my god so good and then Roman Reigns with what zero percent body fat yeah yo that was quite the difference those shoes that zero percent body fat out there this is a hell of a show six man tag all right I'm sorry six man uh six pack of ladder match did you guys watch that oh yeah mcdonald spectacular mcdonald we knew it we knew it soon as you know I I said in lead up you know as I was trying to motivate my friend right former for yeah I was gonna say I was trying to explain to him that everybody's ass the only thing that's good is you okay that was the hype up a friend that's why put other people's down to lift him up that's what I'm doing that that is exactly what I'm doing to do it I didn't even look at Sunday okay then so I said Sunday not worth a watch this is what you need to be watching a lot of people took that very personally I could see that from my understanding it's more than you weren't wrong no I was what hey this is what it's about right here okay a lot of people took that very personally and I was like let everybody know I watched that Sunday who from takeoff into land perfectly timed a lot of people said it wasn't long enough but for me in my particular flight perfectly timed what a show penta hit that Mexican destroyer on him oh on mcdonald yeah rusev did we know he was going to be in there no what a perfect like that hit oh oh yeah that was a good show it was great it was a good show brock and oba femi you know I was not familiar with his game I'll just say that guys I'm an absolute over over freak of nature over the town at sec baby yeah now not really you get it right sec shop put yeah you're starting really right he's a monster I thought he played left tackle baby and how about him just eating that five yeah eating that five just getting right up saying how you doing unbelievable there's a big way to kick off I mean that's two you don't see that no that's not walk that's what we're talking about we've been talking about the whole time those are wwe super smart way we learned we learned that we learned everything not that one guy in the main event on sunday that was a great match I said it was going to be shite I was wrong man yeah I'm a big fan of where the direction w is going you know a few years ago it was there we're calling triple eight something else and then we're going triple k's and uh take his oil they were saying hey it's like spoiled milk I mean we got oba we got a givanna evidence trick willy you know jade lost welcome back really got the title back but um yeah by the way I like she doesn't look nearly as jack no she looked so explode like jimble yeah that was awesome to walk and then jade on the game plan I mean I didn't know that he's that I didn't know the lab looks like once again we're continuing to talk yeah here we are wwe you're right congrats wwe you guys are in great direction man happy you guys you saved it yeah certainly did they weren't in a great direction too I tell you a lot of people took it very personally well and everyone's still bitch about it regardless yeah no way both nights oh yeah that's the name we're bitching get away no hey that's the business baby that is the business that is the business no matter what good luck to all parties out there I would like to say about the american nightmare right there Cody Rhodes hey he just might be the right one yeah that man's a wwe was that might just be the right one I'm just you know getting a cheek because I've been studying them you know yeah tape yeah I'm gonna study him trying to help out drop some things in there right I need my help in the ring okay he's obviously ready or I could have gave it to him I wonder if I would have won over to the bell and they would have been like no what do we do I mean were there any stipulations beforehand put in place said you couldn't do that it'll be clear I sprinted through gorilla I was not in gorilla like I sprinted right by was that man can't fly out who was there I thought there was no lights no nothing just me come flying in there so much I was gonna save the day was the intro on tv when you introduced him because that was the depiction of perfection yeah that was that was a professional wrestling so much yeah I thought about that a lot you know I realized in the moment that I certainly put enough thinking into that instead of everything that was going on yeah it was an honor it was an honor to be a part of it all and uh wwe put on a hell of a two days out there in bikes shout out to the roster shout out they did a great job yeah they did dan housing is a problem listen if you got out of the weekend now getting cursed you won the weekend I will say I didn't meet the housing and you're in curtsy whoa and we're out of there I saw him five different times always full yeah always you know are you sure it wasn't one of his I didn't know the group of um Michael Cole said it not me midgets okay that is their group's name little people is proper term we do believe we've been down this road before Michael Cole said this group would like to be called I had not seen that particular group with the housing okay I had not seen that have you confirmed that his curse has actually worked yes the Mets lost 11 straighters yeah well Dan hasen's from Detroit and he cursed all of Detroit's enemies and that would include the Orlando magic and we lost and we're the one seat in the series isn't over yet so I'm not a believer in Dan housing Foxy I would not be yeah you're saying you're that bad idea we better win a title Dan housing Foxy that group is going to walk in here yeah okay because of you we're trying to stay out of the negative with that group I need four wins in a row Dan housing all right let's move on to talk about sports NBA playoffs NHL playoffs happen talks tables here at Boston Connor at Tyschman one half of the hammer cowboys ap ton is here going back to Pittsburgh this week I did not wait this is gonna be the best week of the entire year not even close I'm very interested see the view is going to be amazing yes okay the optics of the draft are going to be incredible Pittsburgh built for optically awesome things especially the football with where the stadium is with all the history I mean it is it is going to be phenomenal viewing I'm intrigued to see how many people because there's a lot of yinzers talking right now I decided a lot of yinzers talking right now saying I ain't going down here you're right listen and then what am I supposed to come home or am I just fucking sleeping down here how are we getting out that's that's who we are we're gonna bitch okay and it's supposed to be what 200,000 people a day who cares who cares what they think okay it's about the tv product and if it looks good on tv the rest of the nation thinks it was great doesn't matter see that's what the yinzers are saying right there because now they're adding to the I actually kind of want to watch the city uh I love here on tv while it's happening I don't know why I need to I'm hearing a lot of people come around and be like yeah I'm gonna go down I think push comes to shove I think push comes to shove yeah last day want to get down to see it Frank's gonna get asked about it hey we're gonna ride going down right now do you want to go I said I wasn't going are you sure you don't want to go all right like the weather I know Friday I know yinzers the weather's supposed to be immaculate they're gonna get off of work on Friday and everyone's hand oh tarp so I cannot wait to see the crowd down here yeah if they see people too on the tv that aren't yinzers they're gonna be pissed that there are people that aren't yinzers on there and then they're gonna need to go to represent Pittsburgh in itself I'm like this is a nice little social experiment for yinzers as we look from the outside in here you know it's uh I'm excited to see how they handle it I think it's gonna look amazing I think it's gonna be fantastic I think you're gonna learn a lot about Pittsburgh football and the history of how much football matters to the area I think you're potentially also going to learn that yinzers are I ain't doing it there's a lot of that potentially as well in the city we'll see how it goes nine year NFL vet derriestate butlers here excited for the draft spectacular brother I think we got a good one I am who will obviously Bill Cower I can't wait to be in his presence for those few hours it will be a little faster can't wait for that the crowd can't wait for that I should be electric on all fronts Bill Cower is excited oh yeah Bill Cower is knowledgeable and Bill Cower is gonna love that he's back in Pittsburgh okay and we are incredibly thankful and lucky that he'll be joining us a q shippley will also be there and maybe some surprises oh maybe some surprises not like what we did to the wwe world okay oh that was pretty dope that was a good surprise top notch I felt pretty good about top fantastic work surprise nerd did you see all the wrestling people the way we're reporting it uh calling your fans that paid money to be there nerds is not a good idea who's like shut the fuck up yeah okay shut up nerd that was awesome exactly it's literally the business exactly the fact we ran it live the amount of things that's good I mean we knew that was gonna happen we said hey you put big surprise up on that thing those people are gonna drone like zombies right over there surprise surprise surprise surprise we knew there was gonna be a massive massive crowd I mean just just well executed well done hilarious on all fronts and even the people in the crowd most of them were like oh man he got us pretty good it was a fun round it was it was a fun round there I'll tell you what three weeks okay that's how long that was did that feel like three weeks or did that feel like two years yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah I can't imagine how long it felt for you yeah it was a good time thank you wwe for the opportunity and I would like to say I think the relationship between the espn and wwe started off good there yeah strong I think we'll see I guess everybody will kind of see because there was some wonderings or with some worries we'll see how you know everything goes excited to be a partner that'd be a good partnership for a long haul oh yeah see sports media people so you got the wrestling people mad that espn's doing yep yep and then you got the sports media people mad about yeah why the hell are we talking about wwe by the way our show 90% of the mba and nhl took a video yeah I don't think that was highlighted enough I think that was kind of just thrown in there fourth thing we're here for sports but also wwe and espn partnership I think it's a pretty big one yeah I think there's a lot I think entertainment I think it's a pretty big thing so everybody buying into it I'd like to say to the people at espn not that I speak for anybody at wwe literally I do not speak for wrestling fans and I do not speak for wwe I do not say that but I appreciate that the espn folks did go all in like that was cool that's a good way to welcome a new partnership yeah for sure wouldn't that be fun did you see they made a documentary about inside the mba too espn did welcoming them in it did not see that that's really cool them to do that that's a cool thing to do to people that are coming to your network you know that's a very fun thing to do that would be awesome to experience yes it would wouldn't that feel good that would be great that would be good like a warm hug so congrats to espn wwe's relationship I think that'd be amazing and congrats everybody going on that was fun that was a fun wrestle man that was a fun road to wrestle man for the last that was fun dimensions I'm excited for those to stop yeah I bet you see that give it just want to ruin everybody just want to go into the profile scroll through the photos screenshot the photos do a little bit more research previous articles wrote by person screenshot that stuff I had some time yesterday on that flight one one one person in particular almost got a full on love and I said not I'm out of business true which I am that is a good move though just picking one out of just so I see you're like Nick that's that's what Nick has always been just one old Frankie skates back there he's always the friend send it send it send it because I'll screenshot something about to be just a murder just a murdering of somebody with facts reason and actual logic and photo evidence I can't just do that anymore on x I used to really go at you know you talk shit about me sweet you open the door I'm gonna murder you now let's go ahead and see who's let's go ahead and do this you know can't do it anymore Nick's always the guy you gotta send a message sounds like you are as well I'm not gonna see I'm not gonna send an example just one no you guys you guys are bad people okay we don't need to go into that buzz saw anymore we're done with the business okay we're some peace are you sad was a good run man great run was a good run yeah it was a good run I remember the first day well if you treat every day like it's your first day actually which is one of the wwe rules always has been every day could be the most exciting day in wwe well and I think I tried to do that literally every single day pretty isolated the last three weeks that I will say didn't really see anybody didn't really talk to healing that is healing had no internet or anything on the bus you know just kind of locked away just locked away let me go ahead and open this fucker up where am I headed that way all right I hate everybody in here and then right back out that was a crazy run oh yeah what a road I'm not sad I'm thankful hell yeah and on that note all right that was fun I loved it it was childhood dream a lot of yeah multiple wrestle manias mm-hmm that's you know yeah multiple main events yeah still cold I mean just so many different little moments stunner yeah obviously the run down the ramp that that personally I mean that might be my favorite thing you've ever done oh my god oh man I felt pretty athletic yeah as I was running I'm like all right everything's kind of holding and if you don't have perfect posture there you're collapsing that's my neck exactly yeah exactly because I mean just so stupid all right let's get out of here let's move along joining us live from in Attica, Ohio is a man who's a college football national champion super world champion rider couple ladies and gentlemen AJ Hogg C2C5 any workouts I need to do I tell you what I prayers up for your scans I hope they come back very positive obviously I hate to see in the neck brace again it's tough to see you this way but you do handle it very well as we saw you sprinting down the ramp at a four four pace that was amazing thank you it was a little downhill might have been four five four six who knows I was right that was just three quarters stride too because I didn't want to mess up the neck too much you know I didn't want to mess up the neck too much down there at the bottom I should have done a little bit more uh calculation on the drop off because there was a lead down and then a pick back up and I guess I should have counted quicker I'm not even wearing the same shirt as the refs okay OG I am a yeah old I am old school yeah throwback the mistake I made AJ I should have counted quicker that that's on me prop I mean but you were legit in the moment though you you're a showman as well you're an entertainer so you got you can't just boom boom boom one two three you know that oh you're right oh goodness yeah I mean that's it maybe that's the rain he was upset about I already got that I respected the business yeah because I did think if he's gonna become oh good call Tony because he wanted a quick count but I didn't I didn't want to do it no because you're to honor but also the question remains if I do count the three there does it even matter do they ring the bell and you guys are out of there I don't know yeah I do not know I think it matters yeah I do not know Cody was clearly respecting the count all right uh joining us now ladies and gentlemen is a man that tried to get into a little wwe action himself on x he decided to go after an entire city I used to be one of you let me go ahead and showcase how I know I used to be one of you one of the greatest tweets I've seen in a while for a guy clapping back at a city trying to say don't you talk about us you're different now you live in the city of stars you want a superbowl with the rams you're one of Walter Peyton man of the year with the rams you're celebrated as an all-time great ram you don't need you talking about our city over here in Ohio hasn't won ever ladies and gentlemen friend of the program amazon prime pundit absolute stallion super champion future first bout hall of famer we think yeah who knows ladies and gentlemen Andrew we're what up baby how you doing man gentlemen gentlemen I'm good baby I love what you tweeted there to Cincinnati can we please run through all of the things briefly here uh you played 168 games is a bangle that would be enough okay you should could put period sent that thing three division titles hey we did some good things together could have sent that and stopped five straight playoff appearance is six total if we're counting just as a total could have sent just that had all four of my kids there that's like hey it's a big deal okay that's kind of the thing then this is where you kind of take a good turn in my eyes uh I've been to jeff rubies a thousand times I pretended to like skyline chili when I was sober I've stumbled drunk around mount Adams eating pizza montgomery in barbeque is literally in my fridge right now he spent many a night in the courtyard covington sat in red suite with neil fucking armstrong watched Amy Grant with the cpo at Cincinnati musical I parted with nick lache okay that's a huge one 98 degrees obviously club bang on fourth street if you know that you're a cincy person you ate the bluer gassushi boat in the right you sat with charlie sheen as he smoked a sig in the queen city club wow obviously big big time big time cincinatic day and then you said and let's go on so I'll use we respectfully any damn time I want who day okay so this obviously all comes as you start to celebrate the Cincinnati bangles move of dexter lorence I would assume can you explain to me how you think that happened and why you think this helps the bangles and if you're gonna be you were the pride of the yeah probably out of the jungle this year jungle pride if this is going to make cincinatic a lot more lovable worldwide why does anybody care how do you feel this helps the team and why do you like the move wit I like to move just because to me I think of our run in 2011 2015 pat we went to the playoffs five years in a row and one of the things that always stuck to me when I left there and I got to LA and I think of some of the swings that we took when I was with the rams organization is it always felt like all right we're a damn good football team we just can't quite get over the hump but there was never this all-in moment from the organization and when I say that I'm talking from up top hey let's go make that big trade let's go sign that one more person to a contract that maybe we're pushing it a little bit in the cap but we're saying hey we're going to win a damn Super Bowl to me that's what's been missing in my opinion in the Joe burrow era is like all right you do have this unbelievable quarterback you do have some really talented receivers and you have been able to put up some great offensive numbers but where are the big swings every offseason that say I think sometimes you need to put the whole building on notice we're all in like we're going to go try to win a Super Bowl and that's the bottom line and so I think to me this was their version of that it's more about the message do I think Dexter Lawrence is a good good piece to them having the opportunity hell yeah I do but I also love the message we're sending the whole team a message hey we got a window we're about to go try to take that window right now everybody lock in and let's go seems like it was a good deal for both parties as well that get done I did not expect Duke Tobin to ever do this this is obviously a top 10 pick trade the first time they've ever done that in a history of the Bengals we all assume that everybody would want Dexter Lawrence if he was available because how good of a football player he is tell me a little bit about how the Cincinnati Bengals decide Dexter Lawrence instead of Trey Hendrickson is that the conversation you think and with the Wade Trey has kind of gone the last three years and then now we bring in Sexy Dexy to the D-Lond do you think they were just ready for the next chapter there without Trey like how do you think we get to this point and should I even consider that being tied together yeah I think people are going to make that the argument but I would say it's two total different things I think of an edge rusher is edge rushers are a lot easier to handle in the sense of you can chip you can you can adjust protections you can do a lot of things to take one single edge rusher and try to limit their impact but when you're talking about interior push destroying guys in the run game being able to create a hundred something pressures over the last few years like this guy has done in his time as a New York giant like that's something you just can't do much about he's getting double team and it doesn't matter he's going to impact the interior of the defense and that offense is going to adjust for how they proceed with him there I think that that's just a huge piece to when you start to say all right let's look at how we can be better I mean we forget they have performed on offense I mean they lost games last year in just absolutely head scratching frustrating ways because they can't get off the grass and defend on defense when they have defended on defense they went to a Super Bowl and that was when DJ Reader and Trey and those guys were playing really well and forget and don't forget they didn't build that through the draft either they built that through adding some free agents at a price and saying we're going to spend some money some veterans around here and then the emergence of Joe Burrow and Jamar Chasing T Higgins and so you look at this now and you say hey where they were in the draft of the 10th pick where are they going to get that superstar defensive player who without question is playing and playing a lot as a rookie they were unsure if it was going to fall that way this gives them a guaranteed football player guy who's going to impact the football game on the defensive side of the football in up front in the interior right now they don't have any questions about that so I think to me it gives them a guarantee it makes them say hey let's go play some defense let Joe Burrow do his thing and let's get ourselves back in Super Bowl don't forget where it is this year they want to read they want to redo yeah they want to be back in Sofa having an opportunity to win a Super Bowl again and Aaron Donald is the one that wrecked that by the way last play interior D. Lyman wrecked it for the Bengals they would have had your ass they would have had your ass that little confetti with that little confetti moment with your kids which is like one of the most beautiful moments of all time never happens okay never happens if it wasn't for Aaron Donald just blowing the entire play up seemingly out of nowhere from the middle of the defensive line I uh the thought of Dexter Lawrence with Jamar Chase and T Higgins now all of a sudden yeah now that we know Jamar and T Higgins a little bit more okay after the radio row appearance yeah the fuck quarterback for the Bears name okay that was Jamar Chase it was the best Dexter Lawrence by all counts is the best right yes and that kind of what the thing I think there was a report that hardball was not allowed to talk to Dexter Lawrence or something because the agent uh denied any conversation I didn't even know that was allowed but I think it's because Dexter Lawrence is like the best hardball could have gone in there been like hey listen this is a boom boom boom so I'm excited for that locker room may be becoming electrifying as well over there go ahead AJ yeah with as no Lyman I got that you played uh with Gino Atkins I was with you for one year in Cincinnati I remember there's times in practice an interior D Lyman Gino would shut practice down they'd have to take him out because the guy was so disruptive I'm just curious with Dexter Lawrence is that something you're looking for from him in the interior and how how tough can it be for an offense when you have a guy that the interior that gets a great push on pass plays but also is impossible to move in the run game yeah I mean look at it too really you look at what Baltimore lost this year in Tyler Lindemann bomb in the center up front you look at really the Steelers trying to figure themselves out up front who their group's going to be and the Browns as well so when you say hey we're going to go add a dominant force in the interior and don't forget Cincinnati situation it's all about all the other pieces that matter too two young lumbackers going into their second year now they're going to have an absolute stud playing in front of them how's that going to impact them and be able to play at a high level you've brought in a lot of other free agents whether it be in the secondary or boy my face so another edge rusher now this frees you up in the draft to go all right we probably need another secondary guy let's look at some interior help in the offensive line because Dalton Rissner is only in a one-year deal the rest of your line looks to be together for the future years and then you know what is there that dynamic edge rusher on third down that we can get because here's the reality of trey hindricksson he's a hell of a player but here's the truth he is ranked at the top of the group when it comes to sacks and pressures of the quarterback no doubt but let's go look where he's ranked in the run game in all those years as well and it ain't up to the top so my point is is that you're talking about a guy who yeah he put up a lot of numbers i played against a guy like that i would compare him to in arizona and chandler jones a lot of statistical things hey gonna get create a lot of sacks he's gonna get some pressures on the quarterback but you know what else you can do you can run the football right at him all the time anytime you want so when you're dictating the terms on defense that's the reality and so to me i think when you talk about a guy like dexter larnes you're talking about all three downs how can we affect it how can we go get maybe a guy in this draft it's an electric pass rusher who can come on the field on third down and have impacted us there while we also have the interior push of dexter larnes that's just the reality trace a hell of a player is he a guy you want a closing situation no doubt about it if you're up in a game and you want to get off the grass that's who you won't rush in the quarterback but when you're talking about a defense it's been 30th in the nfl it's been dead last i think they're trying to figure out how do we put all the pieces together that help us be a total defense not just one that can win on third down and eight when we need to go get a sack i love that you said they are trying to figure out there as opposed to we because of the tweet but then at the end you know you spoke as we as a bangle fan i think anytime you build up the trenches you know jerry jones kind of said it whenever he traded with maca now is it going to be end up being true with mike up at green bay i doubt it that offense or that defense obviously he was in on like every single play but jerry said like uh we gotta be able to stop to run maca mackle is not stopping him call him the wrong name and then he said that you need to be able to stop the run that's a very real thing especially in this nfl right now you know right now it seems to matter more than ever which is why i think the trenches are going to be spotlighted more than ever there's some interesting decisions being made with young guys or just being hypothesized that are seemingly easy i don't know if that's the case go ahead to him yeah big way it's draft week uh and when you look at the top for tackles it's mawino and fenno both right tackles in college and a lot of people have their third right tackle as blake miller or sorry third tackle overall blake miller's a right tackle as well but then some of the teams at the top they need left tackles how do you feel about guys um we're very very talented can they make the move to left tackle and then also like the lions depending on who they take have talked about moving soul over to left tackle as well how hard is that as a tackle to move from the right side to left side or vice versa i think when you're talking about coming from college to nfl not as big a deal as long as you don't have something where the guy's got an injury or a limitation where you can't switch feet i think that the biggest thing though is when they get to the nfl uh you know you don't want to toy with that much it's it's too you know everything becomes too nuanced it becomes you got to be so elite at it that you don't want to be flipping all the time i think it's one of the craziest things ever watching tristan werves and penaisal of the last few years being able to do that like i i just was one of those people literally left side once i started playing it that's all i could do uh you know the athletes those guys are it just shows by their ability to do it i just think once you get to the nfl it's a tougher thing to me i just don't know a lot of guys who flip side to side who are your elite players and if i want an elite guy i want to find the side i want him to be on and i want him to become a lead at it and so i think drafting them the draft i don't get over the concern about especially when you're talking about those guys you're talking about some guys that have all the skill sets possible to play the positions each one of them and whether it be their sides their athleticism of the length all those things so really it's about hey what's the guy we're the most comfortable that i'm sure they've seen a move and they say hey this is the guy we're the most comfortable be able to move over there and that may be why they lean to one of them over the other because they feel like they can get over there take the kind of kick sets they want play with the balance and the position uh and they see the most upside and then be able to flip over and be the same guy see i'm only a left tackle yeah i get me too pat i'm i just can't i i i know athleticism yeah right kick well you also played barb for my understanding right and you said it was the easiest thing you've ever seen because people just running in g or whatever the case laughs and yeah that was big greater's ice cream era that was a big greater's black raspberry chip you know it that was a big era i was 365 then so uh almost 100 pounds from where i am now so it was it was a big that was a big boy i was big wit for sure then that's when uh jesson smith you talked about the wwe jesson smith at that time used to call me the big show that was actually my nickname well it's the win show that's it baby i know i saw your wrestling aspirations at that league meeting uh league league risotto i'll tell you what that looked good yeah i should i should have been preparing right there because i would take some lethal shots just a few weeks later you know wait i would have had you back pat exactly me i got you baby it's too late now you're too busy twitter fingering with sentinati yeah that's what you were doing you were doing the whole i've been in my bad bro i dropped it yeah i dropped the ball that's on me that's on me well good news is you'll never miss it again because i'm out of the business forever that's right okay speaking of business forever uh and we just talked about you know guys that are tall athletic uh have all the things to make there's a guy that's been doing it a long time just got rewarded again they're talking goat conversations go ahead con man yeah we had past time out trend williams getting that two-year 50 million dollar extension with the nine or so he can go back we've kind of seen brock purdy in the niners without trend williams and clearly they're affected whenever he's not on the field is he kind of the greatest uh left tackle of all time where do you kind of put him and also what does just having that kind of stalwart at the left tackle do for your entire team because we've seen you know trend williams pregame against cleveland browns when uh they're going to throw it out and fight and then trend walks over and then everything kind of stops uh what does he mean for this team and where do you kind of see him ranking on the all-time list you know i actually made this point on thursday night football this year i i actually think uh trend in my opinion has really he's he's put himself there is the all-time great i really do and listen anthony munios was a mentor of mine and somebody i've looked up to him a whole life the man he is the player he was he was so generously ahead of his time it was unbelievable he was an unbelievable player and to me has held that for a long long time but uh i think what shrent has been able to do not just in the run game not just in the past game in the screen game the athlete he is out in space i mean db's and especially now that they can't go low and try to take out the legs and they have to stay up with this freak of nature uh exactly sherman i argue about it all the time and trend is it's unfair i mean it really is unfair uh i think he is without question the greatest athlete and impact left tackle in the history of the game i mean i think that to me when you really look at all three levels of what you're asked to do and then you talk about consistency longevity ability availability uh and and adapting to today's game and every version of the game he's had to play through he's the greatest to me of all time and he submitted himself as that as a guy who's going to be a hall of fame left tackle that is very cool to hear you say by the way uh that humility but also the reasoning on why we should maybe view him as the greatest of all time as well i appreciate the hell out of that wit now i will say after seeing you at the league meetings and i i told you this i do think i can maybe i do no change you saw my get up you saw it you felt it then you did feel it a little bit with you two sixty five i'm close i could give you a shake hey pat my my insurance goes out this year so i'm thinking about pulling a you know i think i'm gonna join rivers and and be full of philip rivers i'm gonna get my five years of insurance back this year maybe i'm trying to see how many games you gotta give me a shot baby bring the big show back how many games do you have to play to get that just one i think you just gotta be on one i mean come on let's go mcvey come on man please one game shana hand don't you let me come be the right tackle for a week i don't know come on guys i know the system does it count for practice squad because they got vets on practice squad now since coven remember coven they opened i think you gotta be you gotta be on the roster for a game i think that i think that's the thing don't even have fun you can get i got a lot of kids i mean we need this come on guys i think this seems pretty easy just put you on a roster for kind of cut and dry yeah just and we should start doing this every team should negotiate in an extra roster spot to bring in a veteran for a week you know to keep up their insurance give a speech i assume you'll give a speech yeah i see yeah route you do the entire thing yeah absolutely maybe show team two you know get some reps in with the helmet on get some pictures while he was really there mixing it up you know that whole thing do you think you could because i when i was looking at you see i was on the same team as Dwight freanie and ronald mathis okay so i uh yeah i don't i don't want to do that yeah no but i understand the chess game of this entire year so when i saw you you know i'm gonna try to speed you i'm gonna try to speed you right now get you thinking you're going out there you're 265 right now i think i'm going yeah i think i'm going long walk the dog yeah he's got short arms short arms yeah i'll be able to get that i'll be able to get that hand right there right don't you think that'll be that hand will never touch me what would even make contact to be passed yeah i i got 36 and a half inch arms i don't i don't think uh you got a long arm would not be the worst road i would go if i was going to go any road i would not go that one we'll fill it out it's chess game exactly last thing he'd expect yeah exactly so yeah there you go who knows what happens with c2 here c3 c4 you know yeah i was gonna say watching you run to the ring little vertical in the stride if you think you're gonna long i think we'll have a doctor on a 205 eastern by the way dr david chow for me okay perfect okay let's let's get the past rushing go ahead do you bud yeah arm length is actually kind of part of this conversation always is a draft season but with the top rushers in this year's draft you got room bane june you got david bailey you got reese bailey's the more polished one reese that's the potential maybe the next michael parsons and then bane dog in the past game dog in the run game but the arm length is a question as a tackle which one of these young guys you see having the most success early on and they're probably having the best career as it goes yeah i mean i think when you get into the arm league conversation i mean it's really just like i've told you guys before when it comes to tackles it's about what's their strategy outside that how do they execute those things in the game whether it be being able to get hands off of them being able to rip and do some of those things i mean you look at a guy like michael parsons people don't even realize i mean he barely uses his arms he's just so good at being able to manipulate his body you know much like really good receivers who you don't get hit hard very often michael parsons is really good at being able to dodge and dip and kind of slip all the different hands that he gets from tackles he's really able to do that at extremely high level you know whereas you had like guys like erin donald he didn't have some crazy arm length before his size he had decent arm strength but he was unbelievably strong and good at getting your hands off of him be able to knock your hands off of him he had a plan all the time we seen him fighting the knobs and everything else uh so you got to become an expert at what it is that you think you need to be able to execute and so when i look at those guys i mean i just think when you watch bang play man choose the effort the energy the passion like i just it feels like a guy that you're like man inevitably this guy's gonna figure it out one way or another because it just seems like he has a motor that's different and that's something to me that means a lot but you know obviously i think bailey some of those guys have some rare top-end talent where you know you got to see him rush i think at the nfl level to really know because to me i i want to see your ability where you look in college a lot of times it's like man they beat him with speed the guy flips his hips it's over you know they they go dip underneath they're going to the guy like that's not going to be nfl tackles they're going to be in front of you and you're going to have to have counter answers to all your things that you think you're going to be able to do and so really better to see them their rookie year their ability to adapt and counter or be an expert at that one thing they do we think of jared verse you know really coming on to the scene with his power then he's going to have to adapt we've seen last year not as much of an impact at times because he's going to have to adapt to who he is and how he plays and so i think when you look at these guys their ability to adapt and their ability to develop counters is really going to dictate how good they're going to be at the next level can't wait to see the next group of super freaks out there i mean it's every single that's why trey hendrickson in that ravens jersey that debuted this weekend oh yeah that's just not what what you expect you know it's a little bit of a surprise looks like raven if i ever seen one that's a tough that's a tough position that's a tough you got to be so explosive so strong so fast just that's my least favorite day ever the uniform day the picture day like i you know just no thank you look especially thank you eight k cameras now they got eight k camera uh stream at the camera give us a rah rah so we can show you in the stadium the fans up like i don't give a damn just play let's just play the game i don't want to do this one of my favorites that was my day i was no i was not part of that day that was one of my favorite the selfish wit day and i appreciate that you backed out of those genuinely uh they only asked me to do it twice and they said give me your football face that's all right i'm not doing this and i was never invited back you didn't give him a good football face no i said i don't know what that means i genuinely don't know what that means you say you know like a football face i was like okay i know what you're talking about quarterbacks can look cool receivers can kind of like show the ball and flash it running backs can kind of do the heisman like as a lineman what's a cool picture of you like i'm in a kick set like that's cool and intimidating like no thank you i'm not i guess that is i don't get the neck for it dance for anybody dammit well i'm not getting a three point dance for a photo three point stands i the bell button on some of the offensive lineman too with the way the jersey is especially if you're moving like this i think you gotta do a yell right you probably always had to do a ha you gotta scream yeah you gotta give a roar no thank you any pause for the bangles i mean if they go if they go white you knees you're totally screwed oh yeah that's just a tough look for oliaman oh yeah elevator buttons bellies i mean we gotta aw we gotta think about this for thursday night there's gonna be so many stupid videos that these guys are forcing to shoot oh hey look have fun you just got drafted dream come true people behind the camera trying to work it yeah they're standing there and then it is full 360 let's do a full 360 view of this guy spinning a football doing the casual thing i mean that's what's coming on thursday night there's gonna be a lot of big boys allegedly go ahead tie last question yeah wit i think it's probably like five years ago where everyone was saying that oliaman and college just weren't as good or weren't as ready to come into the nfl with the way the college game has changed but over the last several years we've had runs in the first round we'll we'll have 10 plus oliaman get drafted do you think that's a byproduct of guys being a little bit more you know a little bit better now and more ready to come in and play right away or is it just that as we've seen like it is impossible to kind of keep the same guys on your offensive line and you need to have at least you know eight to ten bodies in that room who are capable because it's just impossible to stay healthy throughout the course of the season yeah i mean you look at this draft i mean they're talking anywhere six to seven guys going on the first round so uh this is one of the more talented groups you know as i've talked to some guys across the league than in years past and so i i think really one of the things that's happened is is that in the oliam world outside of the nfl outside at college football whether it be you know le le charles bentley or duke many whether any of those guys that are training guys you're starting to have these facilities where you ship me yep oh yeah aq's now doing it i saw that like you got a lot of these guys that are now specifying in training guys outside of all of that and so i think that's really what's had to happen i mean i used to have this argument all the time with the league when they would come talk at our seminars about the flag football push like i love getting more and people involved in football but like if we're going to eliminate practices and preparation at the nfl level uh so linemen are getting less of those and then also at a younger level we encourage everyone else to play the non-padded version of football like where are we ever going to get linemen development so at the beginning stage and at the ending stage we're going to eliminate your ability prepared to become a lineman so where do you want them to develop from and so they're one of the biggest part of our game they're what separates our game and makes it different and so to me i think what's really happened is you've seen some guys be able to specialize in training offensive linemen give them a home somewhere to go in the off season somewhere to develop in high school and junior high and in college outside of just their facility to go develop those skills that it takes to be ready and i think that you're starting to see now the impact that's happening you're having more and more guys are able to come in play early and be successful and i think we're starting to see a little less of that dip that we kind of felt there through those years because i think you've seen some guys come in and play really well as young linemen so uh i'm excited about that and i think that's only going to continue to grow because i think that's something a lot of guys that are former players are getting into and really seeing that this is a big part of this thing now the nil money with everything else now even linemen are making money in college which is crazy right so uh you know that's the truth where there's money being given to players there's going to be people out there trying to create a business that they can get some of it so i think that to me now you've seen the development of offensive linemen off outside of just their facilities and their teams is is growing and so is the impact it's having on us having more productive guys being available in the draft i love the explanation it makes sense because the drills that you have to do are strenuous they are hard they suck only position in the world plays the back to the ball at all times pat not only that also somebody trying to break your back every single play hand to hand combat every time none of the movements linemen do are like athletic movements you do as a kid like hey nobody doing any of that stuff so it's the one thing about is it's not just like you're you know i'm not saying it's some crazy athletic movement what i am saying is it's something you have to retrain your entire body to do because it's not something you did growing up most of those body positions most of the things it takes to anchor and everything else uh have to be learned over time and it's not something you did growing up as as an athlete for most players so uh it takes a while you know you you go with that thing of how many reps you get and how many opportunities you have to do something it takes a while to develop those skill sets uh and so i think it's something very unique and you can't get it by just training with anyone you need people who are putting you in those positions over and over again and i think that's the biggest development is an in strength training and on the field we're seeing people adjust movements to what linemen specifically do and that's helping them develop i love that it's good for the game because when they dip the game dips we dip you know i mean and that that's really we can't be dipping anymore okay we got to be striving especially for greatness with the boys bumping up front i do like that you shouted out the shipyard there okay the shipyards getting out all those drills suck they all suck to do they're all hard they're all miserable they're not fun but i'll tell you what at the end of the the road is a very green pasture centers are getting 30 million now you know this is uh the game is going so i'm excited for we appreciate you ladies and gentlemen super bowl champ cincinati bangle in la ram legend ls you tiger had heart andrew wittward i'll say we whatever i want damn right well i'm talking why are you guys attacking him because he doesn't live in ohio anymore he lives in los angeles and he gets sun don't don't don't lump me in with the people that are attacking him no witt is like you know he was the man there and he still is the man i think anytime he goes back no i he he felt obligated to explain himself yeah he bagels feds but number 10 number 10 sitting in the red suite with neil armstrong we could really nail down on that and say to you neil no did you really do you think you actually really went to the moon like yeah if you wanted to get slugged in the face because that's usually how neil armstrong deals with that because he knows it's not true i'm genuinely flustered about it all well what do you mean how crazy it is like we're celebrating it hard here in 2026 as we should i can FaceTime with my daughter when i'm wherever i could be in a place with no service okay somehow i could open my phone it can have a little glimmer of hope somehow and i could FaceTime with my daughter that type of advancement in technology is outlandish to think about back in the day and we were celebrating big time at Artemis one upper and dead well they made that phone call too back then right mm-hmm they had let they had phones yeah it's a direct line call to the moon so they had to do the yeah the rotary yep not nasa yeah nasa didn't have to but on that note way to do it back there in 1969 that's right that's incredible yeah it is think about how incredible that had to be in 1969 kidding me that's like whenever somebody just first created like electricity who did that with the key Ben Franklin yep there it is think about how pumped they were when they found out that they didn't have to just use the fire stuff like we can actually i mean it won a war like they got to the moon and it won a war yeah the cold war you're referring to yeah i'm pumped we won that yeah i'm certainly pumped but they even had to think themselves over there like really the moon that's really far holy shit they were just kind of like captivated by it they had to be yeah yeah good for us and having like the foresight for Neil Armstrong to be like you know what i'm gonna bring my golf bag up here smart so i can you know tee this up and hit like that you know i mean i love that i love that i know there's a lot of important shit in here i need i got a nice golf bag i need that thing to be total this stuff like you know in good shape when we get up there i want to flush a four iron off the dark side of the moon i love that and that's how sports ties into this exactly and that's why we always have to talk about it because sports were represented they were in outer space at the moon join us now ladies and gentlemen as a man who represents sports in beautiful way we're so thankful that he is now becoming basically full-time analyst on ESPN for the NBA especially in the middle of his beautiful NBA playoff run that started with a bunch of boring ass games yep and don't look now more boars on the way oh no or is it boring maybe we just don't know enough joining us now NBA champion ladies and gentlemen iman shumper yeah what's up shum my guys what's going on what do you got just i don't know i don't know i don't know if it was boring i don't know if it was born we saw a lot of good stuff out there i don't know if it was more okay so you're saying a lot of good highlights a lot of good plays by the good teams even though the good teams are beating the bad teams except for the pistons let's talk about that right there what happened with Detroit i know you were high up on Detroit obviously whenever the hornets were potential when the hornets were going to potentially get this spot you actually said hornets that's fun that's fun story that's a cute story the pistons were waiting on them though now i felt like the same type of energy was being had with your lando magic is this a bad match up for the pistons what happened here not at all i think that the orlando magic have answered whatever issue that we've had with them everybody was questioning them everybody was pointing fingers at them the thing about the magic that i like so much right now is most times when they're challenged in the media guys are challenged got a challenge by their coach they all crumble i think they came together and they accepted the challenge they have come out and they've played passionate they have played together they have played with a willingness to communicate you see their defense going up and that's what i pay attention to i pay attention to all the bright spots they have and then at the end of the game they got france wagna who decided you know what if paulo ben caro can't figure it out in these crucial times i know i can figure it out and at the end of that game they played through him and looked like a totally different team it will be interesting to see if game two they do the same things and go to paulo ben caro early on let bang kind of you know determine how the games go after that and then at the end go to their closer in wagna because they look like a totally different team when he had the ball in his hands playing from the top okay so if we had to give a um alert level for pistons fans from one to ten one being a no worries here so it is a serious don't don't even worry about the first game if anything you're the number one seed detroit has a history of having massive success in the postseason so don't even worry about what just happened there in game one ten being a this is not good this could be a problem if this is what the magic are going to be doing if you were a detroit pistons fan well i'm a bulls fan but uh i would say that they have about they have about uh i say a five because this could be one of two things detroit was sitting at home you know not feeling like there's much anything to do right now you know you get stuck in that root of waiting on the playoffs you're excited but there's no game so you kind of lose a bit of rhythm uh looking at a guy like k cuttingham you're not sure how it's going to go for him you're looking at the rhythm you're looking at the steps the magic looked like a team that just got done playing that just got done with all those reps and repetition they've been in closing matches they've had the game where they feel like ah we didn't come out particularly well in that first play a game but this second game we really got to take it up a notch they felt like this matchup is for them i think they jumped on them early and they did what all teams do which is just supposed to go on the road and steal one what detroit has to worry about is saying hey we cannot let them steal two stealing two changes the series i think stealing one i kind of expected them to not i expected detroit to close this one out i'm not gonna lie weiner ee definitely surprised me toward the end uh i expected detroit to close this out but i would be nervous to say i don't want the orlando magic to say we figured out the recipe for the end of games because at the end of games sometimes they don't close well if they start playing through weiner i think it changes things a lot okay detroit is at a five panic meter and iman shumpered's eyes how's that make you feel fox he feels like you were okay with the five i'll take a five all day because i was at a ten for sure as a fan i watched that game and i said the magic was supposed to be a top one two three seed at the beginning of the season and they played like ass all regular season and i'm like did they figure it out is that team back and is that who we're playing right now as an eight seed that's a problem but iman says five i'm good with that what was the stat on how i'm only go ahead show i'm only saying i'm only saying that five because you gotta think k is coming back he's still finding his way he took a couple of tough shots that i felt like not not what he usually does uh he kind of was forcing the issue a little bit more than i've seen him doing the past but his is all about rhythm as we look at it the thing that i was nervous about with the pistons was the legs the pop the exaggerated defensive closeouts you didn't see that out of the pistons yesterday and i think that's all to do with them just not having a game for a week seems like an eight or nine panic meter in my eyes but i'm not an nba champion our conversation with iman shumper continues digitally on youtube bsb and plus disney plus tiktok live in x we can't thank you enough for allowing us to do this for a living be a friend tell friends something nice might change their life goodbye i've hey i'm gonna tell you fresh out of wrestlemania with whatever's going on in my neck i was too fast my own good earlier so i hitting that right on the screws right yeah that one felt pretty good yeah iman i don't know if you saw i mean we just i mean right i mean that that was a paying curveball yeah right there fresh out of what just happened with this yeah i'm pretty proud of myself yeah okay so you're not that panicked about detroit i like to hear that and hopefully the pistons will win for your sake uh because orlando magic fans i don't even think they were orlando magic fans during the playing game so the fact that you guys are about to get beat by them potentially that's that's a sad state of affairs up there in detroit i don't like it just need the young guys to step up that's all this is young team need the young guys to go all right number one overall seed that's incredible news let's stay in the east let's go to the state of ohio aj has a question for you shum yeah cabs up one nothing they play tonight against the raptors and with the addition of james harden i guess what have you seen from him you know they acquire him earlier this year what have you seen from this cabs team with harden obviously we know what they're able to do with michael and the other talent around but what are the chances this cabs team going on the run uh i like the calves uh i think they're just in a tough position dealing with the top of the east uh boston and detroit just scare me on their schedule the new york nicks scare me on their schedule uh they have matchups that they can win but when i look at the calves i just see a donovan michael that is benefiting so much from james harden and it's not just when james hard james harden rewards him with uh an assist it's not just when he comes off of a ball screen it sometimes is just the attention that james harden commands when he has the ball or he's on the floor allows people to have to be in a single coverage a lot of the time against donovan michael even if just for two dribbles donovan michael is extremely dangerous if left in single coverage where you have something else to worry about because it's it becomes a pick your poison type of situation i think james harden is also doing a great job in pitching ahead and making people dangerous earlier on in the shot clock before getting it back which makes you always have to deal with him in a closed-out situation uh which we've seen doesn't benefit anybody when he goes to that dribble package and wants to get up a quick three or a three that can potentially land in somebody getting another foul and a four point play i really like them it's just the top of the east is tough and the top of the east is tough defensively with multiple people that can guard in the backcourt right now what you're seeing is james harden and donovan michael may be too much for the toronto backcourt okay let's talk about the top of the east and uh the backcourts uh you were at the next game i heard court side we're on the wood at your bopping wood you're bopping wood at the game i heard yeah i was there man shout out to the new york nix man the organization always take care of a form of players man it was a good game yeah i mean i got canceled out of uh court side tickets uh over there madis of square garden directly from the top which i completely understand and respect and appreciate but you're there boots on the ground obviously on the wood what do you think about this next game we got a real deal because whenever they're playing to pacers last year that guy right there jaylen brunson there there would become just like periods where it felt like it was an hour and a half of my life where i'd see that guy with the ball he wouldn't miss just like refuse to miss basically how do you feel about this next team maybe making a run this year again uh i like it i i i told everybody early on in the season that i felt like the new york nix had the east uh it didn't seem like anybody else had anything that you know screamed on their roster that they should be doing this the boston seltsic's were a pleasant surprise the detroit pistons were a pleasant surprise but we all looked at the nix especially with that run that they made last year and all the uh decisions and moves that they made to put that team together they are built to win the east and there was a lot of pressure on them the reason i enjoyed watching them is because jaylen brunson got off to a quick start he then controlled flow and made sure to share the sugar i thought he picked a lot of spots to just turn down moments that we're used to seeing him aggressive moment that we're used to seeing him take 20 and 30 dribbles in one possession and forcing the issue a little bit more but he deferred they kept running that blast action getting cat involved on that pinch post letting two cutters go pie you know cat overthrew a couple of them but you saw him throwing that late pass down the lane to a lot of guys and getting guys involved and i felt like when he stayed involved within direct action it led to him having enough rhythm at the end to say hey i could turn it on which is where you saw him get to his mark uh scoring the ball but the nix plans to their ability right now i just think at the end of games we need to be able to trust in that two-man game uh there's times that they don't score well together and i just want to make sure that at the end of games we don't go away from that because once you have a two-man game where everybody knows it's coming you got to then raise the question can anybody stop it iman saying hey let's not get stupid here like we do every single fucking year okay let's let's continue to okay they say you get tired but i say we're not running too many we don't have any threat of anything down the stretch basically so that's what you're saying right now basically yeah i think it really comes down to exit the nose the nix play hard enough to keep themselves in the conversation there's always a two three possession game down the stretch says never rarely do you see them just give up and lay down uh the nix go out there and they compete and that's you know half the battle they're they're they're not great defensively but they're still sound uh i think they make a lot of moments up that you know other other teams have shot blockers that you know in a higher frequency i think mitral robinson is just you know dealing with some tough stuff right now they already started to hack a hack a robinson early uh you know just to get him out the game but that's all it all comes within strategy i think that the nix just really needs to just you know relax in the pocket of saying we're gonna hang our hat on the defensive end which we knew they would dealing with their head coach in his history you're gonna hang your hat on the defensive end but if you're gonna lose at the end you're gonna lose with your guys that you went to go get it needs to be jaylen brunson and cat you need to be able to put pressure on them and say if we lose we lost our way and that's all i'm asking for good luck to the nix guys make it a long way and then fire your coach okay and then the pacers pacers we were game seven of the finals we're in a lottery now it's a quick oh yeah yeah it is a quick oh yeah it is a very real thing so the fact that the nix are always in it i think if i was a nix fan would make me excited bruce is a diehard nix fan obviously excited for this team this year it sounds like oh yeah much much better than last year like we are much improved in the mic brown era a lot of it is the x's and o's offensively i think the nix were like 22 and 12 against winning teams this season they were 12 and 22 last year and there was all that talk about how they can't can't compete with the top of the nba um you know that narratives out we're ready to roll let's go to the top of the east shall we tie has a question for you yeah shump so i know we're talking about the nix a lot and that's great but i mean you watch the cell ticks and it looks like tatum you know nothing ever happened to him he's completely fine he almost has a triple double the other night brown is doing what he's been doing all season you got luca guards are just absolutely filling up the bucket off the bench and they just beat the shit out of the 76ers uh oh yeah how like i guess as if you're playing on the cell ticks how difficult is it to kind of stay engaged in this series when you probably know you're just going to beat the shit out of them you're kind of looking to who you have next and ultimately i mean can anyone in the east beat the cell ticks i know we're talking about the nix a bunch here but just watching these guys play it just seems like they are much better than everyone else in the eastern conference yeah uh they they definitely look ahead and shoulders above right now i i can't act like that i don't feel the same i think everything changes with the match up we expected them to look this way against a philly team that didn't feature joel and b we all understand why they beating the shit out of these people right now it's not a lay down thing it's not an x's and those they don't have they big brother around it's easy to beat up on the little brother when the big brother ain't there so that's what's happening right now it's it's not that the the cell ticks wouldn't already go out there and have their way they we forget that this team is built for success this was the blueprint this is what okc mimics saying we're going to go 10 guys deep we're going to live and die by the three but we're also going to get up in pressure then they became the dna they became the blueprint we'll see if they repeat but boston has always had the dna of that they'll switch players and they'll go get other players but they usually get get players that mimic the way they play and they play the same way all the time anytime you play that consistent it becomes incredibly difficult especially now that they have tatum feeling like he's back into that superstar bounce it was good to see him really lift off of that leg and really trust he took a couple of long steps within traffic anytime i see him trusted like that that's always a really good thing as a boston self-explan how he has responded post achilles has been spectacular to watch especially somebody who has a quarterback who's going through an achilles recovery who got done by the same doctor i do believe that's great news for the colts but for the boston celtics not only tatum just picking right up where he left off mazul is a psycho but also from my understanding you guys brought in a secret weapon this late into the season connor yeah last week a lethal shooter came to town and you you could say that he had a great effect because i don't think a basketball touched a rim on any of their shots in the first quarter it was one of the most impressive displays of shooting i've ever seen iman is that you know lethal shooter obviously yeah yeah how is he not on a fucking team and then also is he is this coat he literally went and coached the celtic yeah he was that he was there for those few days off after the end of the season okay can't wait to get him in here okay because we're never gonna miss seemingly but what is it is that a new specialty that people are coached like i've never seen a guy miss i mean first time then he understands it sure then then i see him the internet all right don't throw that shunt wise wise and it's got an nba come on now we see a lot of gimmicks on the internet come on shunt don't you be fucking laughing at lethal shooter either hold on i like now we go look up lethal you could go look up lethal in college now he ain't no just he ain't no no like he'll be oh no he's oh no he got a real clip on him though like it's for real like he could have went he could have went it's just like you got to remember a lot of things in the nba there's a ton of guys that didn't make it because the situation didn't fit it's like if they were to come out of college two years later the league kind of changed and they were a perfect fit and some guys just missed it by a year missed it by two years it's a lot of different times that that happens if somebody needed a shooter coming out of college when he was coming out if somebody really needed him and they gave him a shot why can't he be a anthony morrow type player you know what i mean it you got to really think about it like he's not one of those guys that i would call an internet guy because i know a bunch of guys that are internet guys okay thank you sir please shoot her hell yeah yes and thank you for the years of entertainment and the ingenuity to make a shooting a basketball into something it could be this when he started debuting the spiked rim oh man i was like all this fuckers on to something dude this guy's gonna start doing something then him and red bull started doing some crazy shit shooting on the moon i think it was a helicopter one point there yeah it got me better than the bottle yeah i understand it now you do yeah i'm happy to hear that i think the Celtics do too which is kind of an issue let's go to the west shall we go ahead connor yeah shamp it felt like uh the one good series we were gonna get was gonna be rockets lakers and there was actually a video posted of kevin durant not missing him warm-ups uh and then the nba sent someone to bang his knees so that lucas can get back uh sooner rather than later and kind of extend this series uh not sure what the hell happened there but what did you see in rockets lakers uh lebron back to his same old antics i think he had 13 assists in game one so he's dealing the ball as well do you see this one going seven or once you know lucas gets back is this thing all she wrote um i don't know because i didn't i honestly i didn't expect even the three days in between games i ain't gonna lie to you it's a lot of stuff involved we're seeing if we go see 77 put the jersey on but i think it went exactly how i thought it would go today or come out there without katie i think off sheer disrespect alone lebron was gonna ensure that however it needed to get done it was gonna get done lucanar came out there and played you know amazing having his playoff season high uh i thought deandre aiden got out there and got involved exactly how he should just be efficient play around the rim don't make any excuses have some pep in your step he went out there and gave us all we wanted to see uh marcus smart went out there and did exactly what i feel like he's supposed to do in playoff form uh he doesn't get a lot of credit for a lot of the intangible things that he does but he does them um but the lakers went out there and did what i thought they were going to do i don't expect much out of houston without katie out there we saw how much their field goal percentage that three point whoa i heard that if lebron beats this houston team with what is currently set up for the lakers the goat discussion is off yeah that's a perk said and uh now it's happening now we got a guy chicago bulls jerseys all around his fucking office yep all over the place saying he's supposed to beat this team he's supposed to be houston talking about you i'm talking about hello i'm talking about you i get it and i get it perk was a lot of pressure all of them and they're gonna make a mistake again i get it hey man it's all great for tv uh if katie don't play against if he don't play and bron will dog walk this shit like all right okay good i'm being i'm being i'm being a hundred percent serious though it's not gonna be like this dominating version of lebron but brons best attribute is his basketball mind he does matchups better than anybody that we've seen uh and that's from matching up as a team uh who gets to shoot on what side of the court what percentages will work out in his head that's what he's good at so katie better get healthy if katie's not healthy and houston has to manufacture points in a brand new way that they haven't done all year when they've gotten comfortable doing everything as sangoon being the second option like we're not gonna still have that anymore you telling me that people can now tilt and load up on my side of the floor and none of those driving lanes are available i did not like what i saw out of houston without uh kevin durant and so if they're gonna put that pressure on bron i don't know how it makes them to go uh michael jordan is still bald with baggy shorts it's cool don't even worry about that but it is a very important series when you break down that kevin durant just set out the game one like for kevin durant to sit out that game and give the leicas a taste of just it really just gave them a deep breath to take because i was worried they wouldn't even get a game i thought they would just run them run them run them run them and they wouldn't get a game katie sits out it changes things it changes things i hope katie is okay hope we get a good series out of that and i'm appreciative of the fact that lebron's goat man hey listen i guess he's gonna have to win five nascar races yeah okay lebron's gonna have to win five now feels like michael jordan and his team are starting to figure out the nascar thing oh yeah he's got to win that deep sea fishing championship true that yeah with the marlin yep i think you gotta get a big marlin out there he's gonna have to get a couple good golf course sell more shoes golf yeah a lot more a lot more shoes gonna have to sell a lot more shoes but if he's just caring the leicas at the age of 41 oh there's a real combo happening all of a sudden isn't it seems like there's a lot more he's the best he's the best far as the longevity of a career being a professional on and off the court he's the goat of course let go give you all this yeah yeah i he could he'd have gotten a lot of different conversations i totally understand it's just that black that that black 23 man that black 23 was different got a lot of his shoes here i got a lot of his shoes here man he was different man he was different yeah that's what they said i was watching the last dance and he certainly was he was different but i you know i'm a chicago kid who know i could have you know i could have grew up in ohio and bron would be the goat i could have grew up in detroit then bron would have been the goat you know i mean i hated on cove's greatness for the longest just because i wasn't from la then i realized i was a fan the whole time because i know way too much about covee bright to be acting like i'm not a fan i do like how sports creates that though oh yeah i mean that's a real thing it happens in sports that doesn't happen anywhere else so i appreciate our sports world uh more and more every day last dance though imon i think i could play in the mba in whenever jordan was playing okay i want to let you know that i i think i could play in that mba you give me six months i think i could potentially get the handles to get into that mba we're only i don't know man imon they were dribbling this was the best teams right all those things were all playoff runs so those were the teams that were in the playoffs so i'm assuming you think that's how gary you think that's how that's how we beat gary patin you think they were dribbling like that you thought you think portland was dribbling like that no the bottom of the league you talk you thought it was dribbling like that john stockton was dribbling like that okay now john stockton was coming off the ball screen putting nail and coughing with carmelone we weren't even supposed to win that game carmelone and john stockton had me feeling for my life thank you for my life all right i understand i understand i'll go stop disrespecting the old shawn kip without help punishing people at the red you i'm talking worse team i'm talking worse team don't do that don't do that don't do that tanking teams in this league right now got 18 teams in this league right now they're trying to get college players they bet no eighth graders they're gonna get eighth graders right now they're thinking about the freshman in high school saying when is he gonna be available they trading for that that's what i'm saying that's in the league every year we had to beat shit like we're not gonna act like the bulls why we always acting like the bulls they had to do what they had to do they're like oh it was late magic hey congrats to the bulls congrats to the bulls thanks for what you did for basketball and mike the joy thank you for what you did the basketball i would say that we beat charles we beat charles charles still mad about it no people throw that in charles face all the time though i think that's probably why he does that charles he pissed him out he posted the champion not for that ball guy there that two three over there that's what i'm saying that's why we talk about this y'all talk about the bottom of the league i don't care about the bottom of the league it's the bottom true the top Michael i mean also kind of the international i mean for what's happening right now in the NBA i had michael yeah man pretty great and you see you in this neck brace it's so concerning pat if i must say so myself yeah you can't be letting them do that till you dole everybody seemed like everybody even on the way out the fans were saying things that were making the injury worse oh my lord they went on my boy oh they got my boy it was bad it was a bad day sharp you see that thing explode no but that table could have never guessed the fucking jelly roll was gonna be coming on oh my lord yeah i got sport of the three which was the worst was uh the jelly or yeah that one was to be clear none of them were or the RKO this was uh this that guy just said something very rude to me you know and then i wonder about my mom watching at home and if she thought i was gonna be okay so i was like i give her okay are those license parameters there you go and obviously that's for everybody here you know just one of those uh that's kota yeah kota's license last time he's paramedic uh he's good paid he was good man he talked me down a lot and then he was the one that oh jesus e1 you see that that's so good that's what i'm saying but that's dangerous oh man yeah oh my god that's not that i would have went on the stretcher after that one that's the stretcher that was before that was right before i mean that one right yeah i mean you just got right up too like yeah that i'd have been i'd have been asked for my neck brace and my stretcher i didn't ask for anything e1 okay they sent out what they thought i needed and i'll get my scans back tomorrow thank you then i came down thinking like i think i could count one two three look randy it's my god that's Saturday night e1 that's Saturday night randall oh man yeah then i want i'll tell you what i didn't let it slow me down afterwards did we no i went gambled i played a lot of blackjack i went to a nightclub i felt like a 95 year old man in a nightclub uh once i saw fitter set went a good time watching oh yeah it was like a trip back in time tyrese looks like a camera tyrese was having a good time i will say tyrese was having his wrestle man he was spirit yeah he was a good good spirit you said that's fine do you guys have singles there i've never no that's not how actually i'm not sure we will we will find out uh tyrese you're in on tyrese oh yeah never been more in on hailey kidding me absolute he had a great performance oh yeah he had a great performance i will say through all through multiple settings tyrese had a great performance in all of them would have been nice if kittle would have just let him drink that beer well kittle and him working the gimmick right there too i like they were they were they don't have a lot of beers i would say yeah kittle had a lot of beers i will say he's coughing he's thirsty is that what he's selling i don't know oh here's a beer kittle says give me that iman this could be you next year wrestle mania let george kittle chug your beers i think the beer relatively affordable really i just don't know i don't know if i'm gonna make it if the playoffs is on g this is some good stuff going on bro i don't know i don't know if i could do that over the playoff i watch i watch the recap though yeah the clips watch the clips i get it i understand what you're saying i get the clips i gotta watch the game live dawg it's some good shit out here yeah you're right and there's an alien playing currently in the west go ahead debuts yeah while we kind of still talk about the goat convo mj brawn wimby is kind of like the first player i've seen since brawn it kind of has that goat potential on both sides of the court now he just had his playoff debut last night dropped 35 you know they pretty much handled the trailblazers wire to wire but what's your expectations for him now in going forward because watching him step cast i'm like man this this team can can be on a real run right here what's your thoughts on wimby and the spurs uh i like him i like him i think if anybody has something to say about the okc thunder repeating it's gonna be the spurs uh the only other way i can see it is the boston seltsix just um becoming becoming a better matchup throughout the seven game series i think it'll take them a couple games to figure it out but boston can always pose the question i feel but coming out of the west especially is important for them because they are the only team that can match up uh with the okc thunder and it is because they have an exceptional athlete in victor wimby and they have a great uh backcourt that defensively can probably one of the only backcourt that can match up with okc it's just okc is so deep a team man it's so much pressure so much all the time uh i can't put any expectation on the spurs but i can say that i'm very excited for them i'm not going on the hill with perk and saying that they're gonna win they first time around because i do you know i go with the the game and the history of the game and it says that he's too young he needs his heart broke so i think he's gonna need uh yeah he's gonna need a heart he's gonna need a heartbreak and i think the thunder is gonna be a was to do it i can't wait to see what the offseason looks like if wimby goes through a heartbreak he might write an album he might write he might write an entire musical or or he gained that 20 pounds that yannis went to gain you remember when yannis gained the 20 pounds and came back and we was like wait how do we stop that he was just he was just bambi he was the deer in head like falling all around you could push yannis in his hip and he fly out of bounds so he kind of would miss a lot of his finishes and then he got real strong and then hips got tight and all of a sudden it was pop and he was in the air on top of everybody head it's like does wimby get that weight or does he stay nimble because i also like him being elusive he's kind of slithery how he gets by people yeah it's kind of he had a behind the back there at seven what how tall is he seven four four yeah like is he i want to know does he stay kevin duranish or does he start going more toward the yannis uh body type it would be interesting to see on how he works on his body but the sky's the limit for this dude uh the way he competes on both sides of the floor it's exceptional even the way he talks about basketball the way he embraces challenges he is so good for the basketball world hey that's what you guys used to do like um after a whistle was blown and somebody would try to take a shot at a hoop guys started blocking those shots right then i think that's the kg rule kg kg start blocking can't get it no free bucket here then ai i think i think he threw one like to the moon yeah yeah people are having to shoot like that against wimby right like that little floater right there look reminding me of when ai was trying to steal the the the extra shot or whatever it's insane that's a whole new style that's another thing yeah that's another thing we've talked about he takes away the floater sometimes people have tried to do that and he still blocks it like right here that's an unorthodox floater like nobody should have to float that high you shouldn't have to extend your arm that early that is wow yeah floater it's like you know those uh you know that you know that dog uh you know when the dogs do the dog jumping yeah and they like chase a ball that's going out there yeah like i wonder how high you could put one for wimby like if it was yeah like if it was volleyball volleyball they'll like set it high tell somebody go get it 14 how high could wimby get if he had to go get 14 if he had to right if he had to go get one if he had to go do it if he had because like in practice we won't get it ever i don't think like if it was a game no reason how high can he however high that was right there i think he could have kept unbelievable that's unbelievable but that's the other thing about it is he's got some he's got some strong hands he gets a fingertip on a lot of these shots sometimes people are throwing passes and just his finger alone changes the direction a lot of times it'll change the spin of the ball it'll it'll it'll ricochet a little bit but when he seems to get a deflection it's always the total redirection of the ball i can only imagine that his hands are stronger than they appear i'm you could probably ask uh obvious he slapped him dead on the back doing that back uh behind the back move right there but the the cool thing that uh the portland trailblazers are gonna have to realize and drew holiday is going to benefit from this the most i'm excited to see game two they have to reestablish in their mind that there is a lost art of the mid-range jumper the mid-range jumper cannot go away when you play this team and i say that to say you have to be able to go off of a ball screen you have to be able to put their defender on the hip then you're gonna have to be able to play within that flirting range of can he block it or can he not block it when you shoot that mid-range jumper sometimes wimby bites if he bites and goes for the contest you now have somebody that has an offensive reading rebounding lane if you don't do that and you go for the bait and think that you could just leave it on the rim with a floater you get you deal with the results that we just saw okay we got a mid-range the shit out of the alien down there in san antonio good luck to all parties trying to do that iman thank you for making time for us man you're the best yes uh thank y'all man we would like some more non-biased punditry though yeah right down the middle oh yeah frozen and that's weird interesting live from shump street iman shumper at edf we don't just encourage you to use less electricity we actually reward you for it that's why when you use less during peak times on weekdays we give you free electricity on Sundays how you use it is up to you edf change is in our power house on the ship weekday peak usage by 40% could earn up to 16 hours of free electricity for a substitute fare usage cap for all season series visit edfenergy.com forward slash high power i'll tell you what he was trying to go to war right there for them bulls yeah oh made some good points he did bring up some good stuff i still think i my answer was never i could have been on one of the ass teams down at the bottom i could have been on one of the ass probably pacers i wish we could throw you out there and see maybe you find out the same way you just found out about the business uncalled for i don't know if i'm getting crossroads gelling rolled in an rko maybe i'm the one doing that they had the jordan rules bad boys they had to get through lamb burning boys rodman okay so that's the chart okay that's what i'm saying bad boys you guys are talking about like four teams the playoffs i'm i'm i'm i'm i'm i'm saying that first game of the season worst team i'm on the fucking the nix washington bullets i'm yeah flint tropics yeah i'm on the right tropics how many put up how many points you gotta score no i'm defense specialist i'm passing that thing three three i might hit it three definitely i'm bopping wood out there i'm talking about the flint tropics okay that's what i'm talking about and mba kind of has always only been four four to eight teams if you think about i'll tell you people do not like the way this season has gone with the uh obvious good obvious bad i don't know how they fix it i'm excited to hear there was something that adam silver this weekend there was a rumor or something i forget what it was fuck fuck tear maybe ryan smith said something about it like a tear like if you qualify to be a part of it as opposed to having to outright you can like qualify for that particularly like you are you rebuilding or i forget how we worded it it's like i like that they're trying to figure it out but every game being a six point spread obviously basketball it's only two shots whatever the case it's still like all year they had a 25 and a half points oh yeah all time it's like that's not good i mean the playoffs the southerly's are favored by 14 points yeah so it's like how do teams get better and then now they're doing expansion i don't know it's all fascinating it's all interesting i guess content is content in events or events if you can sell tickets to an event people will go to event okay like here in indiana indianapolis people will go to pacer games if they have friends in town what is there going on on tuesday oh we can go to a pacer game let's go to a pacer so it's a live event i get that but from a watching in like buying in perspective sometimes it's uh hard to know who's who's trying now playoff basketball though yes everybody wants peace oh yeah even though orlando magic are trying to take a little bite of that they're going right into detroit and smack them right in the mouth got all the people in detroit already giving up hope on their number one seed detroit piston they should what they should give up hope i don't give up hope yet but to counter your point the pistons were bad for like 10 years a couple good draft picks boom they flipped the switch same with the spurs yep they were horrible for years a couple good draft picks they flipped the switch so i assume that's what adam silvers gonna hit everyone and that's ryan smith's problem ryan smith last week was like hey like we've been bad for a while and we haven't moved up in the lottery that's a problem and so it's hard to get better when you don't do that he said we're in a good spot though we have gotten to the point now where we will yes be going he said but there's other teams there hey don't look now there's other teams that are about to be trying to do what we basically just kind of got on the tail end oh yeah all these other teams it's been a known system i guess just pulling into the pits right now that's what he's you know talking about pit stops and takes four years to to get back out onto you know pit lane joining us now ladies and gentlemen to help uh in the current situation to maybe give a prognostication on what is currently happening as we await my scans which will be returned tomorrow morning uh former nfl doctor obviously uh founder of the central injury uh pfi is it football injury yeah sports injury central yes there it is s i see which i did not get to see the video of mine if they did one but we are asking for it now ladies and gentlemen dr david chile yeah what's going on doc so we'll give you we'll give you a live live recap of this oh my question for you is harder hit jelly roll on you or are you taking a hit in the nfl okay good question i think uh in the nfl i blacked out mentally didn't really remember the thing uh for the jelly roll on my whole body stop working i don't know if you saw it was uh it just couldn't really operate it for whatever reason so i think there's maybe some nerve you see my head my head back and forth there so maybe it's a nerve i obviously i don't i can't have anything broken here right doc it just but it wasn't just this yeah remember i got the crossroads which is a lot of ripping on the neck uh so i got boom okay that yeah we don't know we don't know if that potentially did anything either there dr david chiles right back up there i'm a f**king cat then but watch this doc and twisty woohoo oh okay could be whiplash as well because i'm coming to a complete stop but also he's he's raking on my neck right there and then to kind of cap it all off after i do a 75 yard sprint with the neck brace on because who knows it's a lot of pain i get this devastating bang right there i mean doc in my mind with how it's feeling especially after go go go go go go god and the many men did wish death upon me yeah and blood in my body and i can't see so i uh i don't know if i've been treating it perfectly but i have had this on we're getting the scans back tomorrow what do you expect that i'm gonna hear whenever i see these scans between a c2 and a c5 donor well look i hope it's gonna be good news look you You certainly strange your neck. It certainly took a lot of force on it. I'm actually surprised you didn't break a rib with that jelly roll thing and so forth. But you're playing hurt. You're playing hurt today for the fans. It's all good. Okay. So what is projected recovery here with potential broken? Actually, I don't even thought about that. Now that you mentioned it, I do feel a little tenderness right down here. Couldn't tie your shoe because of that. Yeah, I couldn't get down there. I didn't even think about my, maybe we should get that scanned as well. Maybe a hairline fraction. It's kind of coming in now as the adrenaline's kind of wearing off. Neck strain. How long am I gonna, of course if scans come back clean, which you are normally right there in everything you project, how long neck strain gonna be bothering me? How long you think I gotta have this thing on? I think you're gonna be stiff for a while, but I don't imagine that you're gonna keep that neck collar on for very long. You're just as soon as you get the MRI good, you're just gonna be like one of the football players that just say, I'm gonna roll with it, even though you know, play hurt without it, because you'll be tired of it. And you're already trying to move around a lot as it is. My money's on you recovering faster than most here. But I will say this, say what you, well about WWE, and I cover ringside WWE before. The action is real and the injuries are real. I mean, say what you will about it. Yeah, thank you doc. I agree. All right, thank you for that. Let's now turn our attention to the draft. Obviously you've been a part of many of those and the medicals matter so damn much. There's somebody that has seemingly been hurt, ligament, bone, and muscle in his collegiate career, but so explosive. Go ahead, Tone. Yeah, Pat's talking about Jordan Tyson at Colorado. He toured his ACL and I believe PCL as well, maybe, MCL. And then he had the collarbone injury two years ago, right before the college football playoff and then the hamstring issues this year. What did you see from Jordan Tyson's workout and how do you think the NFL doctors will see him going into this draft? We're not really that worried about Jordan Tyson and we said it ahead of this special pro day, his personal pro day. Hamstring injuries always heal. Have we ever heard of one that didn't heal? He doesn't have a history of recurring hamstring. Look at that athleticism. The collarbone, he plays football. It's a collision sport. It's healed. The knee is the issue. But remember, the knee was multi-ligament and it was 2022. So you've got a lot of tape on him and how athletic he is and how he's recovered. So I actually don't see a lot of issues on him in terms of medical for this draft. And I think that's what you're hearing about him going up the draft board at this point in time. Yeah, I think that's a huge deal. I think what you just said is a massive ordeal because for me, I'd be scared to death to have somebody that has so many injuries to draft to a 17 game season with a bunch of adults faster and maybe even more physical than it's ever been at the highest peak of it, not necessarily every single play. It's like, how will this guy survive? You saying the injury's not seemingly correlated to each other and his most recent one is a hamstring. He'll be back from that. You're saying that any draft class, this would be not a problem or this draft class because it's not nearly as, I guess, blue chippy is what they say. I guess in his time that he would be concerned. Are you saying any draft would view him that way or this draft in particular? Well, you know, medical grades are different just like personnel grades are different. Like what I'm saying here is medical isn't gonna determine where he's drafted. I think he's fine medically. His talent will determine where he's drafted and his talent might have him at the top of the wide receiver draft. And I think it will come to fruition. They're not worried about Jordan Tyson besides despite all this injury prone stuff, which I don't like that injury prone term. The kid plays hard, his injuries are not related and look at how he's performed in the years since his knee injury, not real worried about him. Wow, that's a huge statement coming from you, I think. I think Jordan Tyson's people are certainly gonna be pumped to hear that as well. See? That's what we've been saying this entire time. He has some Odell shit going on in the workout. And then you watch some of the film, it's like this guy's freak freaky out here. If you're able to get him, why not? But there's also potentially people trying to start up a little shit right now saying you never draft that. Yeah, I don't draft that. Definitely not before the 14th pitch. Now you never wanna do that. We are in draft season, not saying doctors do that, but certainly teams do it as they roll. Let's go to the NBA, another massive story. Go ahead, Ty. Yeah, Doc, anything on Luca Dončić? Now there's a chance that he's gonna play game three. Maybe we see that there's an extra day off in between games for this series. What's your take on this? Do you think we're gonna get a somewhat like 60% Luca, 70% Luca, what's your take on this? Look, you know, when you travel to the Europe and you try and get all those special treatment, it's a great two hamstring strain. We've been saying it's sports injury central all along. He's out for at least the first series. The Lakers will have to survive that for him to return. Here's the issue. I actually see Austin Reeves coming back before Luca Dončić. Austin Reeves can try and play through his rib issue and try and tough it out. Luca, if he comes back a game too early, he could be lost for the rest of the playoff. So I don't see the Lakers doing that when it comes to a hamstring, the way that it is for him. So I think they're gonna have to get by Houston without him and then see what happens. Okay, Doc, we appreciate you so much. Thank you for taking the time. I don't know where you are right now, but are you always in scrubs? No, this was off kilter. Yes, sometimes I'm lazy, I'm between surgeries and so I'm in scrubs between surgeries. When it's a planned visit, I put on that sports injury central red shirt. This was impromptu, so apologies. No, apologies to Austin, not getting your report immediately after I had this neck injury. I should have asked. I should have immediately went to sports injury central and said, hey, what should I be expecting here? Cause I was starting to freak out a little bit. And then they were like, don't worry about it. You can put this collar on, you'll be okay. Do whatever, do whatever. I can go to a 50 cent concert and be a lot of this. Yeah, yeah. I do this, you see, you do it with the collar on, you'll be safe. That's good news. Take the under on your recovery. You're a football player. Hell yeah. Well said. Hey man, Doc. Oh well said, Doc. That's Dr. David Shaw. And Dr. God, I needed that, didn't I? He knows. He does know. 173 text messages after WrestleMania. Not one from him. Really? He's probably checking tape. Make sure you'll be okay though. Yeah, he didn't want to say, hey, hope you're okay. He just wanted to find out. Yeah, make a bad read on it. Yeah. That was interesting. I've been doing a lot of no phone stuff lately. What else? What? Gusters. Huh? Guster? WrestleMania, I had nothing. I was on this. I was on this. Came out of that thing afterwards. Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. Like, oh, I wonder what happened. Oh, yeah, that's right. Yeah. Yeah, I'm gonna read it. I did, I was like, oh, something might have happened. Because we got a lot of stuff going on right now. There's a lot of stuff going on in our particular business. So I thought maybe something, you know, really happened and then I realized, oh, everybody, you okay, dude? I just got stretched out. You okay, dude? Everything okay? I just saw Jelly Roll. What the fuck, Jelly Roll? A lot of that. Oh, we don't like Jelly Roll? What the hell happened when you? No, we don't. No, no, no. I think me and Jelly Roll are gonna be okay. Maybe you two, but the rest of us. You're done on him? Yeah. I just didn't like that. I mean, why would we? He could have put that to bed. Who cares? I'm sorry, did we see what he did to you? I mean, you're very forgiving. He wanted it. Yeah, but he was also telling the crowd, like, hey, I'm representing for you guys. I think Jelly Roll was just having a little rock star moment there. You know, I think he was doing full rock star, Brett. Okay, you could have figured it. That's why I think he was doing it. And he should have sang the national anthem. Well, Michael Cole's sitting there. It's happening right in front of you guys. I do appreciate D-butt. There is an angle where D-butt is actually pointing. Going, no. Everybody else has their phone out, watch me die. So D-butt, I appreciate you at least pointing. He was living in the moment. You know, a lot of phones out there. Everybody seemed to be so happy when this thing broke with me on top of it. Then the stretcher comes out, shot, coated, and pull, Miss Lady, I forget her name. I was talking to the man, I was going, they say, you okay, Pat? So I don't think so. Yeah, I don't think that guy was licensed either. That got you on that stretcher. I don't think so. If you're in Las Vegas and you go through something, there's a chance of Kota and Miss Lady do come get you. Well, I hope not. I hope they don't have to get anybody. I hope nothing ever happens. She worked. I hope nothing ever happens. But yeah, I mean, shot, Daddy O'Rango helping out too. Mr. Jordan helping out. Thank you guys. Is that your first time being on a stretcher? Yeah. Like taking out like that? Yeah, first time ever. A lot of things happen in that wrestling. There it is. There it is. Oh. Look at the crowd. So big. Yeah, yeah, so bad. Yeah, what a time to be alive. They got him up. Torn all bad again. I'll tell you why you can stretch it out and come back. Nobody's talking about being in a fight and ref. Yeah, exactly. You know what I mean? You only get one night. My shoe was untied, I just realized. Yeah, dangerous. Happy I'm okay. Boo, so close. I should have counted. Well, you couldn't look down because your neck was potentially fractured. I should have counted, exactly. I can't just say. And that's why the motion was a little slower. Take slower. Yeah, because in my head, it was a lot faster. Now that I'm watching it, I'm kind of slower than, and maybe that was the relay through the neck. And that's okay. Was this just the animal and Randy coming out? He just saw a human that peak just saw red next to him. I think he thought maybe I should have counted quicker. I haven't really caught up with Randy. Because he was just in the Viper coming out. Saw the ref shirt too. He already had, you know, Robinson once. I'm just a little bit worried the Randy and I's friendship is going to be affected by this. Yeah. I think it's gonna have to. I got rid of my RK, I got rid of my Sheryl. Well, he's just gonna say it. It's nothing you can't get by. They can't do him. He under there. Yeah, who knows? They talk to him. What voice told him to do that to you? Exactly. Maybe Jelly Rolls. Could have been Jelly. He's thinking about the song, Get By. Boom. And he said, that's how I get by. Get by, gotcha. Jelly Rolls got a lot of hits. A lot of hits. Sound of a sinner, perhaps? Doesn't excuse what he did. Oh. I'll tell you what. When they do the. Bad. Bang. Bad. Boom. Getting the chance to experience that in the arena one more time. Couple more times. His interest was. That's sick. Pretty good. Good fit. Yeah, Randy, we're standing down in the ring getting ready for a fight. Yeah. You know, getting ready to save the business. I'm telling Randy, you look good champ. You look good champ. People are taking pot shots at me. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. A lot of pot shots at me. What? One of 50's guys. 50's guys? Yeah, Fatso. Right over here. We go on to see him later. Yeah. Have a good time with him. He's a pretty good guy. Fuck you, Pat. Yeah, big bingo. Same energy later? For you. Oh yeah. He let me know. And I looked at him. I did remember him. He was me and him eye contact one on one right here. Cause you do see each individual. Oh yeah. Omar, right to your fucking. Close to you. What time was Kittle on? Kittle was talking shit to a lot of the crowd, I think a lot of the time. But I told Kittle to go fuck himself though. If we are wondering. I was in the ring and I looked at Kittle. Fuck you, Kittle. Yeah, had to. And Kittle goes. And I go. Tyrese get one too. Fucking booze bag. Drum. Deserve one cause he was definitely on Cody side. Yeah. We knew he was a cry baby. Tyrese is dad though. Okay. John, big John. Yeah. Let's talk about Tyrese Halliburton's dad. You know, I would like to say. Court side again. Court side again. All right, guy. Definitely my guy. Okay. He's the legend. I come out. Everybody's middle finger. Everybody's saying everything to me. I get in the ring. Big John Halliburton's front row. Thumbs up like this at me. Smiling, waving. Everybody's flipping me off. Everybody in the building is flipping me off. And I'm flipping off Abtari by fuck you, fuck you too. Hey, you fat so yeah, right. And big John Halliburton, big thumbs up and waving. So happy. That support. And I like looked at him. And I was gonna say. I was gonna do it. I just want to call. I say, oh, Zempick looking ass. To call. That's an interesting thing, man. Very rarely can you just walk into an arena or a stadium and everybody in there hates that you're there. That was a beautiful thing. It was a lot easier to see the people that were supportive of me, you know, because they really stuck out. And I appreciate them going through it out there. I appreciate you guys going through it out there. Yeah, cause yeah. We were good. Right away. So I didn't know all those fucking fans were on the stage there. I mean, they're pretty close. Yeah. I mean, they're pretty close to the situation. We didn't do, I didn't do a lot. Yeah, I just got a guy right there too. That was great. Yeah, I got a guy right there too. He was when I was holding a sign, I said, trash Mac. If he soon as I walk out, I saw it. What's this guy? Oh, I'm fucking saving those. I don't think I should have got a full entrance. But if we're out here, let's fucking do it. Yeah, there you go. Every one of you needs to get it. Absolutely. Yep, you can take it. So you eat some. With the red too. Red Lodgers. That was a good time, man. It was a good time out there. And I guess I was mistaken a little bit by some of the things that I said. Sure, that's gonna happen, yeah. I'll just try and gas up my God. Save a business. Who's the real loser in this whole thing? Look at me. Look at me right now. I got to finally meet fucking Cameron. God fucking love. Hey, ma. Fucking met him finally. It is what it is. I was so pumped to meet him. Take a picture of our fucking neck bracelet. Yeah, he probably respect it. One of them Saturday WrestleMania. I can't say it. And I didn't say it by the way. And I do know rap songs well enough to not say it. Okay, yes. As a white who does know every rap song and basically every word to it, I have to know it better. I have to know every song very well. A couple beats ahead. I have to be. Yeah. I have to be. And there's no, oh, we're two intoxicated, we're flowing. I saw a lot of people tweeting, Pat definitely, some people were saying, did he say? And then everybody was like, no, that's Halliburton. And they're like, no, he knows the words back there. It's like, I come from an NFL locker room. Let's all please have some respect for my teammates and understand that that would never happen. And I can't, but I'll tell you, it is a fine line when you're singing songs from 2004. Okay, and you know the words, kinda. And then all of a sudden, if you're in a video in the back and you're rapping along, and you know, it's a club, so you can't hear anything. You can't even get caught doing that. Hey, his fucking mouth just said it. I know it, I know it, you can't do any of that. So please, please know that that would never happen. Now Halliburton, he was pulling on a show. Yeah. Halliburton was pulling on a show, but that whole album, I mean, all 50 has to do is just play the, just press play on Get Richard Die Trying. We're gonna do the whole fucking thing. That's all he has to do. But there's three different albums that he has heat from too. It was a fucking, it was a great fucking show. Played the power intro song. Nice. Yeah. Your camera got up there. The humble. The W's favorite show. I love that show. Yeah, that might have been my favorite live show too. It was fucking incredible. I mean, it was a great show. He was, I told him that actually. Hey man, graduate high school in 05. Yep, I was the one that you, yeah, all this shit was us basically. Go, go every day. Thank you so much for your contributions to my life. No problem man, cap up. Like, all right, I need to get the fuck outta here. 10 out of 10 hospitality too. Unbelievable, thank you. Yeah, 10 out of 10. Drinks, hey, what do you need? What do you need? What do you need? Come on here, we had a group of 10s. Yeah, we were deep. We're deep, dudes, all. And just like right in, yeah, come on in. All right, sweet, we walk into a room. It was a big room. Yeah. Oh, I don't know if I should be here right now. Tony fucking Yeo. Oh man. Unreal. The real report. Yeah, that. Him and Uncle Murda, love that. I need you on the show actually. You got it fucking Tony Yeo. No problem man, nice to meet you. I'm in this, sunglasses on, fucking ref shirt. Ref shirt. Incredible. Incredible. All day. The ref shirt. This is a letter to see, obviously people that know the business and then people that don't follow the business, you know, it's kind of like, you all right, man? Tough night. Tough night. Tough night. Tough night. Are you gonna be okay? I don't know. I don't know if anybody's ever had this. I'm just checking. Yeah, checking with Chow. Bloody roads, crossroads me. Bang. Jeller Roll, you know Jeller Roll? Grammy Award one. Fucking, he pulled me through the table. Splitters all over my body. And then Ray Jordan, you know, RKO, fucking got me. That was all tonight. They said, wow, is everything gonna be okay? Like I don't know. DVD scans. See, I'm running on adrenaline right now. Yeah, I didn't see it until this morning. Yeah. Oh man. Yeah, this is good. This is good. What are you guys laughing about? Like how they're holding you on there. What are you guys laughing about? It's so funny. Just sneaking it in there. Make sure they know. Well, because I knew there was gonna be a lot of photos. Your finger's down there. Is that frog driving thing? I was not, it was all, hey. Look at your face too. Yeah, all of it. Yeah, I got carted out twice. I got stretchered out, I got carted out. Like how you're hunched over. Yeah, I mean, it's the best. I couldn't control my body. I couldn't control my body. No, of course not. They're like, hey, there's still fans here. I go, what is that fucking me? Locked up. The body, I can't use it. Those days are past now. Hell of a run. Unbelievable. Great run. Great run. AJ, you're a part of my wrestling run. Thank you for your service, AJ. Back in the day, it was fun. It was called. E-Bot, you're a part, thank you so much, E-Bot. Frankie, thank you, buddy. To my WWE 2K brethren. Yeah. Hell yeah. What a run that was. What a run. True honor. They were really happy whenever we all got into that game. Static, yeah. That was one of the nicest days on the internet for us. It really was. Yeah. That was my introduction to the IWC. That's when they said, hey, yeah, not in our fucking time. Oh yeah. Yeah. Fucking these goofballs. They don't get it. They never will. They might have been right all along though. Feels like they probably are. You guys look great in the game. You too, AJ. Thank you. We'll always have you. I think Joey and Cody are going to be a tag team now. Travel around. I don't know, I didn't get a chance to catch up with either of them. Fuck, you're party shut down, you're right. Yeah. Cody, I don't think so. From my understanding from what I saw on the internet, not in real life, I haven't seen that thing in real life. I believe that thing was a big time. Huge. That was a big time. And then there's also, I believe some stitches here. Yeah, he got kicks in the head. Some other shit happened in here. I'm gonna back you. He got fucked up pretty good. The champ really went really, he laid low out there. Exactly. Which is why we would like to reiterate that fucker might be the one. That guy might be the one. That guy might be the one. I'll tell you, he was fun to watch out there, wasn't he? Oh yeah. I don't really appreciate the fact that, you know, when we attack him before the match starts, he's supposed to lose that. Yep. You're supposed to lose it. You're not supposed to fucking drop Randy into a post. No. No. Just Randy's supposed to. Bum, bum, bum, bum, bum. I gotta stop doing that. AJ warned you. We talked about it last week, man. They watched film too, bud. You know, they saw that. Like, they were waiting. That's good, you're setting up a comeback maybe someday. No. He's done with the business. Part of the agreement, huh? Deal's a deal, dude. He's a man of his word. I did sign something I didn't read, so. I did see that. Yeah. I got caught up in a moment. Randy said he was gonna go talk to the crowd. I couldn't wait to hear him speak. And that guy was smirking. For an Adam Pierce? Yeah. I'd like to say thanks to him for trying to keep it up. Guy, I didn't need to know his name. I think his name's Nick. All the trucks are sick though. The Ram trucks? Yeah, those were sweet. The most recent one was the best. Yeah. The week before that, probably not their best. But it was good Ram truck. Still. I fucking did it. It was very unlike you to sign something that you didn't read though. I had a couple words on it. It felt like it was pretty basic stuff. But I think it did mention that I could get hit by anybody at any time. That's why he was smirking. Clear for physicality. I said, all right, he got it. Cody actually said when he got in the ring, he reminded me, he said, I can hit you right now. What? And I had to think to myself, can he? No way. Randy. Oh yeah, he fucking can. Do it. And then guess who hit who. And guess what didn't work. That was not how that was supposed to go. We're supposed to beat him the fuck down. We're supposed to beat him the fuck down. He was supposed to go through maybe the commentary table. Exactly. He was maybe supposed to have, maybe me. Yeah. But as if I'm showcasing out there. Yeah. I'm showcasing immortals like this right here, coming across on them. Then Randy Thorez is fucking bag of bones back in the ring. Ring the bell, doofus. One, two, three. Right out of there. He's got it. They're talking about match times? That one? There was a lot of talking about that. That one should have been much quicker. Yeah. But instead of his complete opposite, I felt like I was taught a bit of a lesson pretty quickly. You know, Cody Rudd's gonna fucking kill you. Jodd Roll's gonna kill you. And Randy's gonna kill you. I almost like to rest and go and say, hey kid. Scram. Which is why I said, hey, if this doesn't go how it's supposed to go, I'm out of here. Yeah. We're back on Wednesday. We're at. Live from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Oh, yeah. Tomorrow we were gonna be live, and then something was offered to us in Pittsburgh. So we are gonna have to take them up on that offer. So we are gonna do that. I get a lot of people telling me that I'm getting lazy because we don't do a show as much. Whenever there's some sporting event on in the afternoon that we're all gonna watch anyways, what we have learned over the history of doing the shows, it is not worth you watching us watch another show. It's not good for anybody. It is not good. It is literally not good for anybody. It's fucking the worst. It's the shits. And we can't help ourselves. If the Masters is on the afternoon. You're watching. We're gonna watch the Masters. If March Madness is happening, we're gonna watch it. That's kind of how it goes. So we got a lot of people talking shit about us, about not, you know, this week, we're off tomorrow, we're getting offered something that they've been offered for, and we're getting our scans back tomorrow. Yeah, very important. You might have to have fusion surgery tomorrow. Essentially. But also, the thing we were offered tomorrow, I've never heard of any human being getting offered it. And we are gonna take advantage of that. Hell yeah. We're also doing a five plus hour show on Thursday night. So, kinda. No, but genuinely, the fact that any of you watch anything, we're very surprised and appreciative of. Thursday night's gonna be gigantic. Yes. Wednesday we're live from Pittsburgh from the Traff Spot. Friday too. Friday we're live from there as well. With Roger Goodell. The commissioner of the NFL. Annual. Annual post first round. How'd you do, Rog? Hey, what are we doing about the refs, Rog? A lot of that. Yeah. There's gonna be a lot of that. Lovely he'll give us. I think that's probably gonna be the focal point of this particular conversation this year. Hey, B-Mac, heads up, we're coming in with that. Right, don't you think, A.J., that was nice of us to do. Absolutely. Yeah, give him a heads up. He knows, he would expect it too. Heads up, normally we wanna know where the next draft is gonna be as well. You already know that. The one after DC. There you go. Heads up, we also wanna know 18 games, two buys. Feels right. Australia automatic buy, how does this work? What's your thoughts? There's a lot to talk about with him. That he will have the answer. He is actually. Grass, the streaming deals. Streaming deals. Back to the table. Five more money, five more games with YouTube. NFL Network getting purchased by ESPN, but also the NFL now having a percentage of ESPN as a whole. Maybe making players. Are we negotiating with him? Maybe making players declare before the draft whether they wanna come back and play or not. Something to think about. Quarterbacks? Sure, whatever. Looks good. I like the NBA. Just quick follow up. Do we know if that has happened yet? Do we still have time before the draft starts? How many days? Two and a half fish? So, could still have. Actually, 77 hours. Yep. Two minutes 53. Pretty good little countdown right there. Yeah. It's right here I guess. Good job here boys. Good job. Good job Zeke, good job Dirty, good job Nick. Good job boys. Coming together. Countdown in the draft spectacular. It's currently sitting at 77 hours, two minutes. 35 seconds. Oh, can't wait. So close. It's the next generation of NFL Superstars. Oh yeah. Live in Pittsburgh. Think about the energy that's gonna be there. Nice weather. Holy shit, AJ. Great weather. Great weather, isn't it? I mean, yeah. It's Pittsburgh, let's stop it. I was gonna say, so yeah, I know. It's my egg and I'm gonna. Don't say great. It's not gonna be freezing. I don't know if the Nardo's doing the reading of the Doppler that he created, but it does sound like by all accounts it's gonna be a good couple of days. The NFL seemingly has that effect. Yep. Came to Indianapolis for the Super Bowl. We had like 75 degree weather in February. It's never happened before for four days. Then as soon as they left, we had an ice storm. Pittsburgh, here we go. Green Bay was a little bit. Friday was bad, Thursday the night of the draft. We got lucky, but Detroit was the cold boy. It was cold and windy. Brisk. I forgot how chilly it was. Have we decided on a dress code yet? We haven't. What we're dressing like? No, no idea. We have not figured that out yet. I packed it. Don't. I got an idea. I got an idea. I need to run by you. I know what I'm doing. No, no, no. I mean, I know what the last years have been. Okay, so we're just going, hey, let's dress nice. Yeah. Okay, it's the draft. That's why I need to run it by you. It's a draft. You're dressing like an asshole. Is that what it sounds like? It's just, I have a couple of ideas. Ty, it's a shame you never get to go to this. I know, and I was really, I love Pittsburgh. I love everything about Pittsburgh. I love you, man. And, you know, of course it's going to be nice too, but you guys will, you guys be, you know, you don't need me up there. You'll be fine without me. But you would make it better. Like if you were ever a part of one of these, I think you, Ty Schmidt would really enjoy the dress. I agree. Well, listen, it's one of my favorite nights of the year sitting at home watching you guys, or wherever I end up, you know, wherever I'm at. I'm tuning into you guys. And I'm just saying, I am, I'm just chomping at the bit, like, oh man, I would love to respond to that. Or I would have loved to say something there, but it's just not the reality of the situation, unfortunately. It's crazy, all this got something going on. I know. Why do we have him on the graphic? I don't know. I actually asked Bo in that. Said, hey, this is kind of- Oh, he was too busy letting Cody in the building to- Oh. I'll tell you what, Bo and really had quite a performance this weekend in Vegas. He showcased that he's on, he was clearly on our side, but he was happy without ending, I think. I'm not. You know what I mean? He had a great night. Oh yeah. Debonne? 50 Cent. Did he know who 50 Cent was? A lot of this were here. Pfft. Ha ha ha ha. About 50, like right behind him. Mike. Did Debonne know any of the songs? Yeah, he had a couple of these. Yeah, right here is 50. His hands are pockets? Yeah, I was like, Bo, get your hands on your pockets. I think I got cameras around it, you know, the whole thing. Evolved. Was Taco on stage? I didn't see. You haven't seen him? I didn't see Taco on stage, but I will say Debonne had a talk week. Debonne, part of the main event. Sure. Story, be whenever he lets Cody in the building like an asshole, and then he's with 50 Cent. Talk does the track thing, then he's on stage a flow ride. Yep. You know, like it was an interesting, it was interesting with 50 just acting abnormally normal for who he is at this stage of life. Just immediately after he performs, just comes up, just stands, just stands here, just casually stand here, talking to people, having a couple drinks, I'm like, fucking. Beast. You're just chilling? Yeah, just literally, he's fucking what? Super Genius TV creator. Oh. Has the greatest album of all time. One of the best interneters. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I was gonna say, great business man. I know he's got booze companies too. Incredible business man, yeah. Just chilling, having a good time. Like fucking, hey, you got me, senior high school, bro. Every day, in the club, I'm going in the club there. Now I'm in a club. Damn, you're 40, I feel like a fucking 90. Hey, we're having a good time, we're having a good time here. And it was just like back in the, all the same songs. Yep. From back, just pick me up, put me back in the club. That is what it was. But there was numerous discussions, numerous times walking into these rooms, but I shouldn't fucking be here. Okay, this is not this stage of life, I should not be walking in here. Then you get in there, the energy's great. It's like, okay, I remember I used to do this a little bit. Here this used to be a good time. Tyrese Halliburton's looking at us going, I'm 26 years old, yeah, I wanted to be a Bieber cello. Yeah. Okay, that is what Tyrese, it just feels like so different. 50 said, yeah, we was having a ball at live in Vegas, my man Halliburton pulled up on me. Okay, sick. All right, so I think he does remember that we exist. It was a good time in there. It was a good time. The whole place was having a good time. He has so many hits. Yeah. So like every generation knows, in Vegas is a lot of different, there's different conventions, CinemaCon was happening there, WrestleMania's happening there, there's some business shit going on, there's some gambling shit going on. So all these people go to all these hotels and then into the clubs. It's like, you gotta be able to hit, I don't wanna say it's like a Super Bowl type thing, but it is like, if you can hit every generation, Vegas, you're gonna hit, I think. Every song, every person, 85 year old drunk, who's there all the way down to the 21 year old kid that's celebrating their fucking first time in Vegas, whole place just every single song. It was electrifying. Had on the Augs Court, whole plane ride back. Yeah, 50. Straight fifth. Did it today too, before the show. Perfect. Fucking need to get Richard Dye trying it. It was a great time. It was a great time. Wish Randy would have won. But it seems like everything we thought we needed in that business isn't, seems like it's okay. Exactly. Oh my goodness. That guy. Talk about being in shape. Zero percent body fat. You'll be seeing my ass all summer. Thank God for that. Business is good, isn't it? Oh yeah. It was a good run. Be your friend, tell your friend something nice, it might change your life. We're gonna sing together. Tomorrow we're experiencing a once in a lifetime thing. We'll be back on Wednesday live from the draft setup. I wonder if they know that we're gonna be there Wednesday. Whose day? What if they don't? We're all gonna sing together. Let's never ever forget that. Always gonna be staring some shit even whenever we don't mean to. Team On Me, thank you all so much for allowing us to do this for a living. Actually, we're very, very thankful and lucky. Team On Me, Team On Three. One, two, three, two, goodbye.