Junk Wax 2.0? Breaking Down Overproduction, Parallels & Pricing in Today’s Hobby

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I don't call it necessarily Junk Wax era, but I do think we're in a Junk Parallel era. There's way too many parallels. Like parallels 250 into 499, non-autoed. Why does that need to exist? Top's Relation Football, for the first time with licensing. I see the prices are already going up, kind of like the basketball bid. 120 for a mega or something? Yeah, it's crazy. Man, that license must be expensive. Welcome to the Collector Nation Podcast, here on the Collector Nation Network. Whether you're chasing Grails or calling Bluffs, you take you inside the hobby. Here are your hosts, Ryan Alford and Brian Lut. All right, guys, our On It segment of the week, Leonard. Hey, you guys know who Leonard is at this point. I'm not going to talk about how much of a badass he is in YouTube and licensing and product and all that. What's up, Leonard? How you doing, Ryan? Good to see you. Hey, man. Congrats. Hooray. Let's get the, like, the confetti should drop for On It. You guys did it. You picked all the right teams. We did. And I called it too. I said I thought UCLA could win the women's championship when we had, what, go back four weeks ago and watch that episode. I said that. You were right. And you would get it spot on. We'll play that back. We'll get the team to add that to this episode. I shouldn't listen to you but more because my 8% bracket, it was, like, a little rough. Mm-hmm. Yeah. But the winners would have all said and done, but I did not have the champion. No, yeah, I think it was, I mean, I think on the men's side, obviously, it was a lot better than last year because we had more surprises and more parity. You know, Florida going out early, Illinois, UConn's buzzer beater overdue. Like, there wasn't just the 4-1 seeds, like, last year. Oh, the women's side, I think we got exactly what we expected. Outside of South Carolina, I'm setting UConn. I think that threw a lot of people. That threw me, obviously. I said UCLA. UConn was going to be the championship. I think I might have had, on the record, U.S. South Carolina is a live dog to not sleep on them. I don't know that I picked. I didn't know. I wasn't comment that they would win the title per se, but I thought they'd be a pretty live dog, and they were. Yeah, I mean, I think there was a lot going for them, you know, to avenge last year's loss in the championship game at Gores. And then just, if there was anybody who was going to put a stop to UConn having a perfect season, it was going to be South Carolina, right? Like, just the rivalry there. And I mean, you saw Don and Gino get after it, after the game, about the whole handshake thing. So, that wasn't a great look for Gino, I didn't think. But, you know, I also understand, if you understand, athletics at the highest level, how much tensions are you there? You know, if anything, it was good for women's sports, because it does what's already happening, which is sort of legitimizing how, like, intense and good these rivalries and battles are. So, in that sense, hey, you don't want to see bickering, but hey, I'm off for some juice in the women's side. Hey, it made me tune in. I was out at dinner and I, like, paused and watched and was like, I wish I was a book reader. Yeah, I was like, Don, get him, get him, Don. And, but look, two intense national championship competitors going, hey, in a tense moment, it happens. But, I mean, amazing. I think South Carolina ran out of gas and UCLA was the best team no matter, you know, at the end of the day, no matter what. Yeah. Yeah. And nine on it players making all region on the women's side and men's side is crazy. Yeah. Yeah, we had a ton of people show up throughout the tournament. I mean, Territory, Jinyu too for Yukon. I know they didn't win the championship. Obviously, he played a monster tournament. I thought Yukon had a chance against Michigan there. Elliott Kado actually ended up being, of course, the MVP of the whole tournament. I thought if Yax, Yax and Leningborg didn't get injured, I thought it was probably going to go to him. But Kado played awesome. I mean, pretty much everybody for an on it team showed up in some way for their team in a big way. So, I mean, we even had Price Sanford, Nebraska got eliminated, obviously by Iowa. He made the South All Region team. So just a ton of different names. And then Gabrielle Hock-Ez too for UCLA. I really like her as a player. I did not think she was going to go off the way she did in the championship game, but, I mean, it just kind of goes to show you that when you have teams that are this elite, it's just like pick your boys and really, all of them could go off in any given moment. There's a lot of buys here on the card side. Let's just say that both for WNBA and NBA, a lot, Leningborg, I think is can't miss guy. Just can do it all. I mean, he's one of those guys, they make so much now. And, you know, thanks to companies like Onnet, they're taking care of them on the NL side. And other places with, you know, they may have a likeness. You know, they actually have a decision to make compared to like years ago, because there is some money and upside to stick around. But I mean, he's a total beast. I think he's going to, I think, I'd be kind of maybe thinking, I was like, Michigan box is over there. I was thinking while I was talking. I need to store back some of those. He's got a big upside. Yeah, for sure. And one of, like, it's interesting that you bring that up. Because one of the guys that I've loved watching all year, I think a lot of people have, is Darius Aikuff Jr. at Arkansas. And they're one of our timeless schools. I was listening to Calipari talk before the championship game, and he made it sound like Aikuff is coming back to school. And I was like, that would blow my mind. He's like top five, isn't he? I said this in my YouTube recap that I put out, but really that one sequence where Teras Ried got the steal, and then he was falling out of bounds, and he tried to throw it back. And they missed a layup, and then Michigan comes down, and McKinney hits that basically dad, who's three. Yeah, that's three. That was a five-point swing right there, and a four-point loss. You know, like, to me, that was the whole game on just that one one sequence. I know I mentioned it last week, too, but we now have the national championship commemorative boxes because they both won. So celebrating, you know, Gabriella Hockes, player of the game, Yaxel Lendenborg, Perez Johnson Jr. Yeah. All the, basically, all the players that got these teams to where they are, and just like recapping the whole season. Yeah, look, that's a lot of future stars, current stars. You know, it's funny, I even hear myself saying that now. They're all stars now within IL, and they're doing everything that pro athletes are, but they're also still in college, getting education, and they've got great companies like On It that are paying them for their name, image, and likeness, and, you know, putting them on fair grounds for them and creating, you know, a future for them and savings for them because, look, they're blessed with a talent, they work hard, and they're using their image, you know, in support of other brands. So it's a win-win and certainly a winning tournament for On It. Yeah, we had a lot of success with the players that showed up, the teams that won, obviously, and I think a lot of people projected that Michigan would at least be in the Final Four, if not the championship game. Yukon really shocked me. I thought they were potentially going to lose to Izzo in Michigan State. You're supposed to say that they were going to lose to Furman. No. I went to Furman. No, they were never going to lose to Furman, but, I mean, yeah, just the run that Yukon went on, we had a lot of good teams, a lot of successes here. I'd be shocked if we don't have even more success, you know, next year, especially with the talent that was on the derauchters this year that potentially could come back to what we call a basketball's trending. National championship commemorative box is Michigan UCLA. Shop now at OnItAthlete.com. Use code, CollectorNation. You'll get 15% off your first order. That's OnItAthlete.com. Love it, Leonard. Always appreciate it. Can't wait to future segments. Clemson baseball's got to heat up. We need them. We got to get in. We'll talk more baseball than sports, but hey, hell of a season here for OnIt in the NCAA tournament. This is the story of the one. 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And just knowledgeable around. We're like, hey, join us. Brian's out of town. He's at some conference. Like Leonard's like, I'm in. We appreciate it, brother, for being here. Yeah. Thank you for having me. I've got plenty of thoughts. I know. What's... What says you here in April? We've been talking a lot about the basketball tournament, which is behind us now. We've got the NFL draft coming up. We've got MLB. Are we a big draft follower or a big Major League baseball guy? Yeah, I mean, both, for sure. The Yankees in Seattle, you know, got me twisted a little bit. Yeah, it's an interesting common, but it's like crossover season, kind of. We got the draft coming up, and baseball is in full swing. So, and this is one of the Fanatics Fest tops, that's the Judeer ones. So, that was, like, cool. Next, here you are. As a Yankees fan, I appreciate it. Yeah, those hometown up there, And we always call it the universe of I don't know New York City like it includes Connecticut and parts of New Jersey Manhattan like all the one if you think about it cuz like I lived in I live in Manhattan People come in from Connecticut to come in from Jersey. You got a whole Yankees after all exactly you damn Yankees So we say down here in South, you know, I don't care. I love all my I got to meet Aaron judge so I will always hold the Yankees close to my heart I adopted the Yankees while I was up there a little bit. I mean, I it was fun I love going to Yankees games. So If you don't enjoy going to a baseball game like a live MOB game You got other problems. Yeah, seriously, you got not enough problems with that game ain't it Cuz it's fun. You have your hot dog a beer some nachos Not if you If you're bougie and go sit in the whatever, you know, I get invited those luxury boxes I'm like, no, I want to be out here where I have the sights the sounds and the smells Chance to get hit by a foul ball catch one, baby. Yeah Yes Did y'all see the big fight on the Angels game. Yeah Yes, you see it look kind of I did not see it live I mean, it was like a tackle like it's always like a little like these guys are flailing And I don't know how to react either and I feel like I can I can hold my my own But in that moment the charging of the mound, you're kind of like, yeah, all eyes on you. It's like, okay What do I do? I throw my glove like my guy judo chopper give him the crane kick. I'm not sure Well, the picture still had the ball in his hand One day that's gonna happen the pictures gonna chunk that ball like and Yeah Yeah, you know, it it's a sad sort of Time period for me in the year because we're so still so far from football and that's my favorite sport But it's a really great time like April May because you have the NFL draft You have the basketball tournament, which we've been talking about which was incredible you have Masters week which this is and MLB kick it and so it's like and but in the NBA playoffs starting to come in It's like a slow ride to that thing. We will come back to that but But the NHL playoffs at least in a jail. That's right. They started to it's a good piece of good time I actually kind of had questions about the the Masters and maybe more from a brand perspective because I feel like the card market For golf while it's there, you know, it's largely minimal Compared to other markets and I feel like the Masters they could capitalize it more than they currently are because it's like I don't really follow golf that much, but I still watch the Masters and I know a lot of other people do and it's kind of become like Trendy, so I'm curious if they're gonna capitalize on it more this year than they have That's a good question. I mean you've got live golf that's been I think with tops the last few years I think that's right. Maybe maybe Pani. I don't even remember who knows I think they were with Pani for a while. Pani was a Pani. Maybe it's still Pani Who knows but I don't know why PJ Tour hasn't had more of a presence and then it's a good point about the Masters I know we're gonna talk about a certain Collectible that's off the market here shortly. Yeah, but before we get to that It is like the perfect thing that they could have had like Masters cards done well by someone high end That would have been a nice club. That's probably set out They could have done like because I'm pretty sure they're partnered with Rolex too. Yeah incorrect But I think they could have done such a classy collaboration Between yeah, like some sort of card with Rolex. I don't know. I think there's something there and if next year I see it I want No, no, I mean you're in the market here. I mean you're on you know, you're in You know all this. I mean, what's the deal with golf cards? Yeah, I don't I I've never like They some people really love them obviously, but they've just never Been mainstream for whatever reason like even tiger, you know, like really old tiger cards Uh, they just have never sold particularly well for yeah What reason like I would an awesome card to see would be like Tiger Sunday red, you know from like one of the years he won the Masters like a patch like a the Nike red patch A green emerald Masters tiger card Yeah, like in the green jacket Yeah, with a patch with a patch auto if you know the Sunday red that he won in and then like he you know, he's been I think we're starting a company here. Are we starting a company here? I'm just expensive He's gonna get the golf rights. I know I don't know like golf is such an affluent sport That it's like why like you have the prime market for cards right there It's because the you know, you have you have a certain number of players and It's the same even though there's a lot of names that float because golf is so hard The good guys only stay good for so long It's sort of like 10 to 15 guys that that have name recognition You know and it's usually was tiger fill and everybody else And I think the problem it's both the problem and the maybe solution was to have a card that made them more interesting Or made them or follow maybe the the cards could have been more following but You know, you always are gonna have Mike trout on television whether he's batting 210 or 340 that season So you're always gonna see him if you want if you follow the angels Chris Smith who might win a tournament May or may not be on tv for six months if he gets a little cold And I think it has something to do with presence in media You know the cards can only carry it so much if you don't have a name and I've come to that hypothesis Just while sitting here. So it made sense while I was saying it but I think Yeah, I was gonna say I think part of it too is like when you think Of being a collector and like the memories that cards evoke Nobody has like memories of opening golf cards, you know, so like there's no nostalgia factor Opening a pack of golf um, or like it's also a very hard Sport to attend outside of like the waste management opening phoenix, you know and everybody parties it up on the 16th or 17th whatever it is like You know when you think about Opening a pack of really cheap baseball cards that are like 99 cents god knows you can't get a pack for 99 cents anymore But and taking him to a game and trying to get him signed at batting practice, right? Like for baseball cards like I feel like that's a very core memory for parents kids and like golf just does not allow you the same Opportunities so I feel like that also could be part of the disconnect of where there's not really like a tradition or a lineage of families Collecting golf and then passing it on down Yep, and I think I think that's where maybe you're tying back to where you started tying it into the masters tying it into classic tournaments that maybe have You know historical like all the masters winners of the last 40 years and have a card set with those That might could get some steam Because again You're tying it to the biggest tournament that has bass appeal outside of even golf see we need to stop saying our good ideas On the podcast. Oh, yeah, we need to be able to we got a pack so up and sell them, you know, but uh I think uh, someone's probably introduced that it's it's so masters of them probably not to want to do it, but You know, oh the prestige. We're not gonna have cardboard with The green jacket put your on it. Well, you know what they do have We just want to have have egg salad sandwiches and our little two and keep them two dollars What they do have though is uh in the The shop at the masters they sell these gnomes that look like little garden gnomes. Sometimes they're Christmas themed Sometimes they're golf themed, you know, like they change it up every year Uh, and they retail for $50, but It's speculated that this year is the last year. They're doing them So the secondary market for them is already at a thousand dollars and if you want the whole set 39 thousand dollars. I'm gonna go yard selling this spring And I'm I'm on the we live in south carolina not far from august I'm gonna go yard selling down in achon See if I can find me some gnomes I'm sure you can Yes I mean that's a big upside. Are you proud of that? No in the yard so for five dollars, I bet And that's thousands of bucks. Come on And like they're pretty cute. I will say It's gnomes go. Yeah, but it's a garden gnome. Yeah And apparently they sell out like like if you're not first and not like you're not getting one. Yeah So I never knew these were so popular If I had one you'd get gnome Dad joke You'd have to display it in our store. Yes, I would as I'm saying I wouldn't sell it I I've found a place like down those and nobody stole it. That's a true learner. This is true I'm gonna put up high somewhere bolted down Like I'll tell you remember that big drink machine over there Uh might could be the spot if I could be like an easter egg or something, you know, like in the store the hidden gnome Uh that we find I go yard selling and I don't tell anybody and I start store them Obviously, you'll know but It's like uh when you like during christmas when you hide the pickle in the tree We hide the gnome in the store. I have not heard of this pickle in the tree thing Have you not Leonard, do you know what I'm talking about? No, absolutely not What in the world you said that like as if it was like, you know, the easter bunny coming or something Like okay, you take like a little pickle ornament and I I hope listeners strange Yankee new york thing You take the pickle ornament and somebody hides it and then you try to find it and then if you find it You have to hide it again. This is a family show hiding the pickle is not, you know It's a family show. We probably should be hidden Okay, I I hope the audience We need to get some votes on this is anyone aware that's listening Dm me hit us up on the youtube comments. Hide the pickle on the christmas tree. I want to know Elf on the shelf. Elf on the shelf. Absolutely Okay, well now i'm just embarrassed. I definitely is a thing. Okay Back to your regular schedule programming this gnome the masters. Uh, I can't wait To see him at the yard sale. I'm looking for that thing now. I need a picture with her You know, I gotta know what i'm searching for It looks like you're gonna have to go around There's in south carolina. There's a yard sale on every like every corner every weekend. I believe that And that gnome I haven't seen him yet. The strikes me is probably a prime item Hey, someone bought 10 or 15 years ago at a masters and never Put it out They thought it'd be cool to have and then they're going obviously throw in the yard Because they aren't following the secondary market and Yeah, they'd be losing out on 2000% fall along The journey of the gnomes the masters gnomes Can ryan find any in yard sales in south carolina? We will be on the lookout and if you have one and you're listening and you want to send it to me We'll give you those details privately Well, because we just told them how much it can go for on the secondary market Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but I have to it has to be graded right and I'll I'm the one that grazed them Yeah, yeah for sure You gotta send it to me to make sure it's okay. Yeah, at least I wanted to make a potter. You're like easily breakable You know, I've never seen one of them. So I can't tell you okay. They gotta be on ebay You got it. Exactly. We'll look that up. Yeah we'll look that up so uh We got a little bit of a switch over here this week tops The release in football for the first time for with licensing Taking that over from panini that releases. I think on the 15th or 13th by dates are obviously not correct By the start of the show. I'm trying to put us in 15th 15th. So coming up Coming up. Yes, uh It's gonna be interesting. I don't know how limited release it's gonna be I see the prices are already going up kind of like the basketball did it's like cool used to be kind of universally what like 25 30 bucks a blaster 40 to 55 60 for a mega box The basketball Nah, those value value boxes. We've also changed the name. We're no longer blasters. We're value boxes I like as a marketer. I kind of like that, you know, but you know as a collector. I'm like, I see what you're doing there Value box $50 120 for mega or something. Yeah, it's crazy Man that license must be expensive Yeah, seriously, and I mean how many places are you gonna find it for msrp, right? So oh exactly. So it's like 61 20 probably like day one if if you're lucky for blasters and mega boxes It's gonna be it's gonna be almost the same price as Don Russ optic Yeah, probably more Yeah, I mean it's Don Russ optic. Well, and you can find for 80 80 or 90. I mean, you know when it came out But and I'm sure you saw the the first day issue as well from tops their their idea first off the line They're doing the same thing. They've literally just took they just took beninis playbook I mean they got first day issue. They're dutch auctioning it like I mean Yeah, like we're gonna do the exact same thing. You can't beat them copy them or just buy all the licenses And look, I don't have your dog in the fight. I mean good I know Ruben like good job. Mike. He's a killer like what you know, like he's a beast of a businessman I got I don't care. I mean I'll be selling and ripping and doing all that. I got no dog in the fight, but dang it's like It's expensive and uh, but you know what? I don't think it's gonna change the demand I think that people are gonna want it and I think there's so many people in the hobby right now They're gonna buy it myself included You know as a store owner so I mean it is what it is, but I I don't know what the like Windows have become too much. I don't know. Do you both of you think that we're headed towards junk wax 2.0 era? with how much product is coming out right now or do you think that they're Across brands keeping like purposely scarce Hmm. I feel like we're teetering on it. That's for sure if we're not in it. We're teetering on it like right I mean it's just they printing so much you've got these parallels that Are one shade of a color different with the exact same picture and somehow you slap a one-on-one on it And it's worth more I get they only made one of that one shade, but They're getting a little lazy with the differences from these one-to-ones to the neck, you know one to the other so that screams to me Combined with the print numbers or anything else That it could be, you know, I don't know if it'll be quite I hope it's not as bad as 1989 and 90 You know don russe it tops I saw we have people that bring those into card store every day. I got some old cards I want to show you and I'm like, please don't get in on top. Please don't be 1990 don russe and three out of four 1991 don russe Oh, wow, look at these All right to be a bearer bet is they're worth less than whatever your grandfather or your father Probably not a grandfather because I was that sage. That's what I did, but hopefully not your grandfather Uh, your father's collection's worth less than what he paid for it probably But I don't know. I think we're close man. I mean, there's a lot of being printed There's a lot of options and it's slicing the bony pretty thin with some of the variations Yeah, I uh, I don't call it necessarily junk wax era, but I do think we're in a junk parallel era Because yeah, there's way too many parallels like you said and the fact that you have Like parallels to you know 250 into 499 Non-autoed like why does that need to exist? Why do there need to be 500 variations? Of a guy and then you have 250 other variations And then you have one to 150 to 100 to 75 to 50 like parallels to me should not go higher than 25 Make them rare make them really rare make them have value because if they don't have an auto on them to to 499 It's like $5 card depending on who it is. Someone like two dollar cards You couldn't even get a comc to sell them for you online like so I literally opened a pox last night I'm not gonna name any names Nene um, or the brand or the specific one football select 2025 And opened it and I got a really pretty cool white looking I thought at first it was a zebra because they look so close to the same, but it wasn't a zebra It was just a white parallel numbered It was pretty rare pretty rare There's only 799 of these made And I was 728 and I felt pretty special I mean I mean it's like come on. Well, really exactly to your point Leonard exactly Conf that card and it's maybe five bucks like it's not even at the cost of grading and it's numbered. So like, what's the point? Might as well be a base My new favorite number is 728 now. I will say that Big 728. Yeah, is that at least a good player? I mean Yeah It wasn't good enough. Let's just say that let's just say he played for the Jets Is there a single active player on the Jets that's that's good enough? Like I mean, I'm not saying you don't have some a few diamonds in the rough, but there ain't a whole lot there Yeah, none of the not in the hobby. I mean breeze and Garrett are both breeze. Holy Garrett Wilson are both really good But they just don't get any love because they play for it. It wasn't either one of them I do he was most people would know it most fans would know who he was but it was great Uh, and I was just like man think about so how rare this is it's kind of like so how rare do you think of okay? In some ways you can go well, let me 800 um You know 799 so okay in some ways or then I'm like If you're asking a girl To go out with you and there was 728 ahead of you, you know out of 799. That's not a rare You're not very rare if you're like number 728 like you know, that's a crazy way to think No, even it was kind of like I don't think I want to be number 728. You know like that's not rare Yeah, rare is 20 25. Okay. You know just about an any anything Delinters point out of 25. Okay. There's a lot of numbers in the world. But Not 799. Hey You could have been number 799 That's true You know, I'm that I'm probably that and a lot of other things but you know, like how good I am it You know backgammon and Other I'm good at yard sports. I'll say that don't don't come at me and botchy ball frisbee You know crochet, I'll kick your ass in it. I mean yard game wizard Okay, we'll have to do. Yeah, he's gonna say we're gonna have to do a cornhole tournament. Oh, uh, dude I'm just saying That's that's my wife. I'm terrible at so many things but yard games some Games that pay no money that gives you no prestige. I am really good Hey, I mean they have they're worthless. They have tournaments of cornhole on tv On the ocho Yeah You know what I saw the other day was virtual golf tournament Uh, yeah, I was flabbergasted. It's called. Isn't that called golden tea? I Don't be live. I'm I'm in thinking about getting one here for the station. Let me tell you I'm not kidding Yeah, I was baffled Yeah, trying to get productivity absolute zero We're close. We're close Leonard. We're not far from it. Uh, hey, we're productive here Uh anything else on our topics of the disor I mean, look Get out there. No, only thing else is that uh, the london card show coming up here is expecting 20,000 10 bs Hey, the hobby is worldwide. Yeah. Yeah, you guys see Demand globally for on it. Leonard Uh, yeah, actually, that's kind of funny. You mentioned that I actually know two people who are going to the london card show completely unrelated um, but Well, we have a guy actually who I met at my last company Who's a huge college football fan who lives in the uk Um, he's a huge organ ducks fan big denver broncos fan, but he likes college more um, he's like been really big on actually getting a bunch of on it football over there and running breaks for Other guys who can't get you know the big cards internationally because he comes back to the us quite often. So Um, yeah, there there's definitely a demand for college football and Obviously, I'm kind of teamed in f1 is my favorite sport. So I'm really tuned into the f1 card community um There will be a ton of people I know At uh selling f1 cards there So and soccer too. I feel like all the stuff that we don't really kind of accept Over here in the us like yeah, you see a ton of that stuff at these international cards We we just like in the united states. We're just like so focused on like basketball football baseball and like we kind of just forget that You know soccer and formula one or these global Sports that I mean if you look here by year, they rack up way more money Uh in sales than anything we do here in the states Yeah, and I think it's you know, because uh, you know nc double a is trying to expand football more globally by having games in different countries and stuff. So I'm sure that there's Definitely a lot of college football fans that would be interested in on it cards at The london card show. I've got an idea. I think on it and collector nation needs to do joint activation next year at the london card show There we go. We'll all get on that. I'm in Hey, also it's the london Bella to your to your point. Is that not the worst thing ever? Yeah, having having college athletics being played in ireland and spain. I'm sorry. That is the most ludicrous thing when they announced that maybe like who is it? Kansas and Kansas state are going to like spain in the middle of november. Are we joking? Yeah In the middle of the season a big 12 conference football game is being played in. I'm ridiculous. I that I've Nothing, we're wanting transfers. Are we wanting transfers from there? Are we wanting to pull in like? I like emissions from the foreign country. I was I get to try to spread football, but it's stupid I love when the games start at 8 a.m. Like I actually don't mind that on a sunday just because then hey I'm eating breakfast making an omelet and like hey jacksville's jacksville's always playing on those sunday games. I don't know why You know, he probably doesn't say anything good about him, but uh, hey, they're better this year. They're gonna be better next year. So, uh, Maybe they won't make the uh, the london special, but uh I hate it so much. I don't think I've ever seen you so passionate about it Like it's just no other sporting thing does this like Rugby doesn't send people Like soccer doesn't play internet A league matches in the united states. Why because they think it's ridiculous Like they're the champions league tried to do it and there was a massive pushback because they're like this is a european tournament We are playing it in europe. We are not coming to miami And all the clubs like the club presidents got involved and like look we're not doing this Like I don't care if it makes money. This is a european tournament and but here in the us We're just like so like oh football we gotta get it to the europeans and it's just like god guys This is american football. They want to come watch american football. They can come to america Yeah, well, we want to force it down one way or the other So crazy I guess that's how it is but That's it. That's all we got lindard really appreciate you for joining in and providing perspective And as always go check out on it athlete Dot com for more of the with what they're up to and uh lindard want to drop any social deeds or anything like that Yeah, you can uh if you're interested in on it college football cards Or just college sports in general on an athlete on socials if you want to follow me if you enjoy my passion It takes about why american sports should be in america Leonard underscore on it is my handle on instagram. Uh, you follow me there I just actually inherited a bunch of vintage cards. So i've been showing those off recently So if you're interested in vintage cards, uh, you can come check those out. So and I appreciate you Always buying we're always buying Oh, you should uh, we should talk after this then you'd be interested. Yeah. Oh sweet. Let's talk for sure Bella Appreciate you I always love being on here. 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