Pardon My Take

Sweet 16 Night 1, Giants HC John Harbaugh, Max Homa Stops By For PMT Spring Break + Fyre Fest Of The Week

117 min
Mar 27, 20262 months ago
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Summary

Pardon My Take covers Sweet 16 basketball games, welcomes Giants HC John Harbaugh to discuss his new role, features golfer Max Homa, and wraps up PMT Spring Break with discussions on college basketball upsets, coaching changes, and personal challenges.

Insights
  • Elite college basketball teams are building with dominant rim-running bigs rather than relying on three-point shooting variance, creating more predictable offensive efficiency
  • Coaching job security is determined by performance outcomes, not tenure—even successful long-term coaches can be replaced if results don't meet organizational standards
  • Fresh starts in coaching roles provide opportunities to reset culture through environmental changes (signage, facility updates, systems) before player arrivals
  • Transfer portal and NIL have fundamentally shifted player movement expectations, making coach complaints about player loyalty appear outdated to modern audiences
  • Special teams performance is a critical but underappreciated factor in playoff success, with coordinated units providing consistent competitive advantages
Trends
College basketball tournament upsets are declining due to portal transfers and NIL consolidating talent at elite programsCoaching staff continuity matters less than system clarity—new coaches can build competitive teams by importing proven players and establishing clear messagingSpecial teams investment is becoming a differentiator in NFL playoff performance, with dedicated coordinators and resources yielding measurable resultsFacility and cultural rebranding is a primary tool for new head coaches to signal organizational change without altering core coaching philosophyPlayer movement between programs is now normalized, reducing stigma around coaching changes and creating competitive parity across conferences
Topics
NCAA Tournament Sweet 16 AnalysisCollege Basketball Efficiency MetricsNFL Head Coaching TransitionsSpecial Teams CoordinationTransfer Portal Impact on ParityNIL and Player MovementFacility Culture and SignageGolf Instruction and Skill DevelopmentCoaching Job SecurityNFC East Rivalry DynamicsFree Agency Spending EfficiencyPlayer Motivation and MessagingSpring Training BaseballIntermittent Fasting ProtocolsSunscreen Product Development
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Netflix
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People
John Harbaugh
Discusses transition from Ravens to Giants, coaching philosophy, facility culture, and team building
Max Homa
Discusses golf game, TGL championship loss, Masters preparation, and relationship with Tiger Woods
Jim Harbaugh
Referenced as John's brother; discussed coaching philosophy and family coaching legacy
Mike McDonald
Praised for building competitive team with strong special teams and defensive culture
Will Wade
Discussed returning to LSU after NC State, exemplifying coaching movement and player loyalty debates
Ben McCollum
Praised for coaching Iowa basketball to Sweet 16, known for intense motivational approach
Brad Underwood
Coached Illinois to Sweet 16 victory over Houston, emphasizing team toughness
Tiger Woods
Discussed as Max's TGL teammate, his injury recovery, and relationship with the hosts
Charlie Woods
Tiger Woods' son; discussed as talented young golfer committed to Florida State
Jay Billis
Criticized for outdated takes on coaching movement and transfer portal complaints
Luka Doncic
Discussed averaging 40.9 points on 50% shooting over last 8 games, on scoring tear
Nikola Jokic
Referenced for triple-double pace and MVP-caliber performance despite limited games
Joel Embiid
Discussed in context of triple-double statistics and playoff availability concerns
Jamal Murray
Scored 53 points in recent game; discussed in context of assist inflation by home scorekeeping
Quotes
"You know when you know it's over Jim is when you get up in the morning and you really don't want to even get up and get in your car. When you get to that point you coach for two more years then you'll be done."
John Harbaugh (recounting his father's advice)Early in Harbaugh interview
"Everything about it is just something that is distasteful to you. You hate it. When you get to that point you coach for two more years then you'll be done."
John HarbaughCoaching longevity discussion
"Be brief brother be brief"
John Harbaugh (quoting Jim Caldwell on public speaking)Commencement speech preparation
"We're building an offense out that has never been seen in the history of the national football league I mean like literally because we're building the New York Giants offense"
John HarbaughGiants offensive system discussion
"Can't turn a hoe into a housewife"
PFT (regarding Will Wade's coaching moves)Will Wade discussion
Full Transcript
Hey, pardon my take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. On today's part of my take presented by DraftKings, finale of PMT Spring Break, New York Giants Head Coach John Harbaugh on the show. We're going to talk sweet 16 games, incredible first two games, borderline blowouts for the other two. We also have Firefest and it's all brought to you by our friends at State Farm. In basketball, the great players don't just go it alone, they have teammates, coaches and a solid support system behind them. It's kind of like insurance because let's face it, a lot of us probably aren't great at doing that alone either and that's where State Farm comes in. State Farm is a teammate always ready to assist, help you find the coverage you need and help you recover from the unexpected, from fender benders to storm damage or even just a question about your policy. State Farm is there to help provide and assist when you need it through the State Farm mobile app, a network of 19,000 local agents and online at StateFarm.com. So don't just go it alone, when you need help protecting what matters most, State Farm is there. State Farm with the assist, coverage options are selected, by the customer, availability and eligibility vary by state. Okay, let's go. Welcome to part of my take presented by DraftKings. The crown is yours. Today is Friday, March 27th and sweet 16 boys, the Houston Cougars have been eliminated. PFT, I'm sorry for the fifth year in a row. If you think this is going to determine from believing in the Houston Cougars for the next four years, you are sadly mistaken. I will never learn my lesson when it comes to this team. They're bad. Hank, their offense was clearly, clearly a limitation for them tonight. Hank, you said you guys both said blowout. Yeah, well, I said eight. I said eight points. But you've thought your hearts blowout. I said eight points in my heart. Yeah, I mean, PFT, this is his team, he convinced me, he was talking about them all year, he was riding and dying with them and his team lost tonight. Thank you. Thank you, Hank. Soggy Soros. That was a great job of Hank taking responsibility for that. Soggy Soros. I don't think I should have to do Soggy Soros for the Houston Cougars. I don't like to get wet for the Cougars. They get wet for me. For the Cougars, you should probably Soggy Soros. No, Soggy Soros. Thank you, Max. If we do Soggy, I said, we talked about this off camera. If we do Soggy Soros for the Houston Cougars for PFT, then big gats do Soggy Soros tomorrow for the Bulls when they get eliminated from the playoffs. Okay, deal. I'm not, I'm not even a Cougars fan. I'm just, I just, I developed it. I have like a strange compulsion. Like I have an unhealthy fixation with the University of Houston basketball team that I fall into every February. Yeah, it's like in my calendar, it's how you know, how like, you know, chicks when they live together, they sync up on their periods. When me and Hank watch Houston basketball together in February, we both start to believe. Yeah. Well, Illinois was just the tougher team tonight. Illinois out rebounded Houston by nine rebounds tonight. They were better offensively, duh, because Houston couldn't hit a shot. But Illinois, I mean, they're, they're just a really fucking good team. And it's one of those teams that like maybe at points because the big 10, I mean, we're, I think we're finding out the big 10 was really, really good because three out of four teams in the elite eight so far are big 10 teams. But Illinois, they're the most efficient offense. And when they play tough like this, and they're able to out rebound a Houston Cougars team that's known for rebounding, watch out in a road game in Houston. Yeah. I mean, it was, it was their bigs. It was a snack and use and that had tough games tonight, very tough games shooting the ball. So I, and but that's always kind of the story with Houston is like their offense is liable to show up in a snake bit fashion. That's what they did tonight. So you listen, I'm not, I'm still going to believe in the Cougars next year. I regret nothing. Great job, Illinois. Illinois is a better team tonight. Breaking moves, breaking moves. We just got a text from our good friend Tom Fornelli. He said, I'd like to know where Hank and PFT are right now with the Ryan Day meme. I mean, Tom Fornelli, just Adam Salf is being a nipple piercing guy. He is big time. Big time. That's fine. That's fine, Tom. He wants to know where you guys are. I'm right here. I'm Tom. I'm awake doing my podcast. Where are you? He's tweaking. He's texting. Yeah. Texting. Yeah. Keyboard warrior. Yeah. Hank, what did you just text back? Oh, just a picture of us podcasting. Illinois was awesome though tonight. I mean, like I said, the toughness because they've had games where they've looked a little bit, I mean, Brad Underwood has said it like we're soft and they answered the bell tonight and they were the tougher team, the better team. We also had, and we'll get to the two great games early. We also had Arizona just showing that they are probably the best team in the country because they absolutely whooped Arkansas to the tune of right now there's two minutes left in the game. They have 106 points. How many threes do you think they've attempted, Hank? 106 points. They attempted seven threes. They went five for seven from three. They are absolute monsters down low. All five of their guys, starters scored 14 plus and a walk off the bench had 14 as well. So it's six guys, 14 or more. They shot 65% from the field. They just absolutely killed them. They absolutely killed them. And I mean, this is, we kind of figured this was going to happen with Arkansas because they have a cuff, but they're not. I mean, bigs have hurt them this year and Arizona just, that's what they do. They're just efficient, efficient to the absolute max. They don't even, they can make threes. They just don't have to make threes. Yeah. And they're five for seven from three. The only way that Arkansas was going to be competitive is if they made like 45% of the threes. If they did a great night shooting the ball, they did not have a great night shooting the ball. They didn't have a single player that had more than one three pointer on the night. A cuff got his, he was always going to get his, but they needed the threes to fall. Yeah. I think Arizona, it's going to be very tough. This is what we were talking about. You know, the idea that Cinderella's are dead because of NIL and transfer portal. And yes, that's part of it. But the other part, when we were talking about it on Monday of the best teams in the country are building with just monster human beings who just scored an efficient level at the rim. And guess what? Those, those shots, there's no variance in those shots. If you have guys that are all six, 10 and above, and they can just dunk the ball and, and lobs and just score at the rim like that. It's not like, Oh, we might be cold shooting one night. Yeah. It's like the Jonah Hill Moneyball meme. Yeah. The Moneyball find really tall guys to play on your basketball team. Right. It's not, it's, it's, it's not like they're not using analytics. They are. They're just using analytics to be like the best shots of the ones as close to the rim as possible. Yeah, it's true. So those are the two blowouts. Then we had two incredible games to start. Should we start with Iowa? Yeah, let's start with, yeah, yeah, my obsession with Ben McCollum is growing even more. He's, he's the absolute man. Iowa takes down Nebraska. We had, it was a wild game because if first of all it came out, they shot the absolute lights out in the first half at both teams. Nebraska jumped on Iowa. Iowa is so, they're just a team that's like so well coached. They're never kind of, they never wavered. And then at the end of the game, they, two things happen. One, Matt rule was shown on the screen. So Matt rule was shown on the broadcast with six minutes left in the game. Yeah. Iowa went on a 15, six run to end the game. And then including in that run was Fred Hoyberg installing a defense where he only had four guys on the court. That was the very last take all the way down the court that, that Iowa had. But that was a very important, yes, yeah, 72 69. Yes. No, that was, that was, that was the game. Yeah. That play was a game. There was a guy that was running off the bench to the scores table at half court as the ball is in the air going down the court. And that guy is like, Oh, fuck, I should have been in. That's like the ultimate bad dream that you have when you're like 30 years old. And you're like, Oh, shit, I haven't been to class all semester. This guy was like, I was supposed to be standing right out there for this play. They got all toasted by it. And yeah, that game was over at that point. And there, Iowa, Iowa is a Cinderella. Iowa is a bunch of guys who started in lower level college basketball and they are the Cinderella that everyone's looking for the nine seed in the elite eight. Like the this game too, this is what we, this was the payoff for whenever it was like, Oh, where are the all the upsets? These first two games that we watched on Thursday night for the sweet 16 were so, so good. And Iowa Bennett starts is awesome. He just controls the game so perfectly. And Ben McCollum, do you, so they asked Bennett starts after the game because they were down 10 early and they asked them what coach McCollum said to the team. And usually you would expect an athlete to be like, Oh, you know, he said, Hey guys, we, you know, we've done, we practice this all year, like let's not waiver. Ben McCollum told the Iowa Hawkeyes. He slammed his whiteboard and broke his marker on the floor, ink everywhere. And he was just telling us that we sucked and we were soft. I absolutely love it. It's the best. He is Kurt Signetti. Yeah, that's what he's doing right here. Football guy. It's a bunch of guys, but it's a bunch of casts off on a team. Iowa hasn't been in the sweet 16 since 1999. Like it's it, this is not a program known for basketball. And one coach is changing all of that. Yeah, it's fucking awesome. And you're going to hear all the talk about UNC and that UNC needs to talk to them. They got to make them say no. You got to make Ben McCollum say no. There's so many dudes that I have that you have to make say no. Yeah, it's yeah, we add another one to the list every day. I don't want to talk too much about it though. If you're an Iowa fan, enjoy this. Don't be thinking like, Oh, no, I don't think he's going to leave. I don't think he's leaving. He might not leave. No, I actually, I don't want to do reputation bet, but think about it. He's from Iowa city. He coached for 15 years in division two, had pretty much every opportunity, maybe not every opportunity, but you'd assume after 15 years winning multiple national titles, I think he won four in a row in division two. He would have gotten some calls. He gets a call to Drake. He's had Drake for one year, then gets his dream job at Iowa. I don't think he's going anywhere. In Iowa, you know, their history of coaches, it's like if you want, you can, based on this run, you get a bag, you can probably retire there. He might get a bag from Iowa. Iowa might give him a bag too. I know he's from Iowa city. I just, the North Carolina bag would probably be a little bit bigger. I would think. Yeah, no, it definitely would. The Kansas bag, but I don't know. I always got some bags. Duke bag. Don't count Iowa. They got some bags in Iowa. People are, people are saying, well, actually, I shouldn't say people are our former colleague. One of the brightest guys we know, uh, Barstle Dukes said that, uh, Kansas, Kentucky, Duke and UNC could be open this year. And it's Bill Self retiring, Mark Pope getting fired. UNC already open. And then John Shire taking the bull's job. There you go. You never know. That's a lot of nos from Brad Stevens. I think you also have to make Will Wade say no. Yeah, you gotta do Will Wade say no. That would, that would actually be the funniest possible outcome if Will Wade, if you and C calls just to make him say no. And he's like, yeah, you know, I kind of do like the state of North Carolina. Maybe I'll go back. Yeah. Can we talk about Will Wade real quick? Yeah. I mean, this is, he is the originator of the phrase on part of my take, who cares? It's Louisiana, right? Where things don't matter. Yes. Like crimes don't matter anymore. If you, no matter what you do in Louisiana, it doesn't matter. They will hire you if you can win sports games. Yes. And Will Wade for a while, he was under that investigation. They had like wiretaps and shit on them. They had a federal case against him. And LSE was just like, yeah, we don't really care. Will, you can keep coaching for us. Yeah. And then eventually they were going to get hit with some big show cause stuff and they were going to lose scholarships. So they're like, okay, Will, we'll let you go. So he goes to McNeese State. He wins there, gets hired by NC State last year, goes to NC State. Takes the same picture that Jim Velveano on the cover of Sports Illustrated being like, I'm going to restore NC State to glory. Yeah, go pack. Pack up. So he has one pretty good year at NC State, I guess, like an okay year. Yeah, they made the, they made the play in, they lost in the play. Yeah, that's, that's fine. And then they were all like, he's our coach for life. We got him, LSU calls, they're like, Hey, sorry about firing you, but you know that we had to because the feds were going to arrest you. And so he goes back to LSU like everybody kind of thought he would eventually, but people are big mad about it. If you hired Will Wade, you did that knowing that he's, he's probably going to leave yet. So, well, yeah, I mean, Will Wade's a scumbag. You can say that like he is the way he left NC State after years, a scumbag movie. Did it be email too? You know, you know what I say? What? Can't turn a hoe into a housewife. That's true. That's true. I also would like to take my seat to the LSU game once. That's right. That was when you fell in love with Anthony Richardson. Yeah. Yeah. Um, I, you know, who's being disingenuous online? Jay Billis. Yep. Jay Billis, what's up with him? He's, is he trapped in like a, is he, is he just tweeting from 2005? No, Jay Billis plays the hits. Jay Billis, he said, Hey, NCAA, tell us more about players that don't show loyalty, don't want to go through adversity and how player movement impacts stability. Tell us more about tampering and poaching. The coaches portal is always open. Funny how silent coaches and administrators are about that. Everyone's saying Will Wade's a dickhead. Yeah. And also, players can move around now. Like this is a tweet from 20 years ago. Right. Well, I guess what he's saying, if I'm playing devil's advocate and thinking of how Jay Billis is being disingenuous, he's being disingenuous. He's saying that right now, the coaches are upset that the players move around too much. Right. But who cares? And so then Will Wade moves around and nobody says anything. But yes, people do say, people do say things when people like, well, Wade's a dick. Yeah. Anytime a coach does something like that, they're like, this guy's a dick. Yeah. This guy, we gotta, we gotta figure out, but like, LSU fans are happy. Will Wade's back. No one else is like, Will Wade, what a good guy. Yes. And tell you what, I mean, LSU has a very, very strong us against the world mentality going into next year's sports season. Right. Like between their football and basketball coaches, they have no choice. But to be like, fuck you, we don't care. But this also, what I don't understand about Jay Billis is like, so what if people complain about the transfer portal and the NIL and all this stuff? That's just people complaining about something they wish like still existed, where it was guys staying for four years and you got to know the players. We're in a new reality where the transfer portal and NIL exists and it's not going away. So people are complaining, who cares? Players can do whatever the fuck they want. And people are getting tampered with left and right. Who cares? And guess what? There are still some teams that figure out how to do it better than others. Right. So you would, you would love the system if your team was just better. I just think Jay Bill is being disingenuous. Oh yeah. Well, so he is stuck in like 2015. Yeah. I'm going to hit this tweet because it's going to get me a lot of engagement because at the time, like before part of my take started in that era, it was like, everybody hated players that were one and done that did anything for selfish reasons. And then things slowly started to change. And the pendulum, I think we can all agree, has swung back to the players a lot. But yeah, so Bill is still running that same playbook. He's running, yeah, he's running like single wing offense. Yeah. And it's we're in the age of the spread, Jay. You got to, you got to update the playbook a little bit. I just love that LSU now has Lane Kiffin, Kim Mulkey and Will Wade, and they're like, so perfect. LSU is just, we're just going to try to win games. It's just, fuck you. We don't give a fuck how they got here. We don't care if they piss everyone off. That's how everyone should be. Yeah. Like, fuck hiring the nice guy. I would, I would love that for James Madison, if that's all they cared about. Yeah. Okay. Purdue in Texas, another incredible game. Purdue survives, TKR with the tip in at the end of the game. Embrace the bait. Was that a push in the back? Well, TKR is, yes, he just, he just throws his body at everyone and gets calls. Yeah. That just happens. Every spring, everyone outside of the Big 10, like, finds out that, oh yeah, Purdue is still playing hoops that pisses everyone off. Listen, I saw the replays of it. That's just basketball. That's just basketball. Sometimes, sometimes we're in the age of like, slow mo replays, over analyzing every single frame of every single shot on a camera that's done in like 60 frames per second. Sometimes you just got to let dudes bang. Yeah. And that was a classic case of just dudes banging down low. Let it happen. That's basketball. Yeah. And I mean, Purdue is just, they're playing great ball right now is obviously, I, it's hard to go through a tournament. Like, yes, they got a major scare. Texas gave them everything. Like, like that was right. That was basically a coin flip game at the end. Not everyone can win like UConn won what was like three years ago when they beat everyone by double digits. Yeah. There's going to be these moments thinking about Florida last year, where they get bailed out time and time again by Walter Clayton. So you're going to have these games and that's why you have Fletcher Lawyer and Braden Smith and, you know, the guys who have been there, done that TKR who can make the big plays when it matters. Yeah. And I mean, is it really that impressive if they beat a Texas team whose best player had a broken foot? I mean, yeah, the Jordan Pope revealed afterwards that he had a broken foot and Tramon Mark, who was unconscious today hurt his ankle in like, was it, was it early second, second half? He was awesome on one foot. Another thing happened to Texas that happened in Nebraska. They showed Sark right before the last possession. Yeah. So you can't do that. If you're, if you're a college basketball team trying to go to the final four, you can't show the coach that everyone likes to meme and make fun of and hasn't won big games. Yeah. You just can't. I feel like Sark has been a good coach for them. Oh, no, he has. But he has, you know, like, like the big, like if you won a national title, if you show Nick Saban, that that's a different feeling of excitement. Right. When you show Matt Rule and Sark has been better than Matt Rule, significantly better. But still, I feel like winning begets winning in this situation. Right. If, yeah, if you were watching and like Connor McDavid showed up on the screen right before some like the Canadian sled hockey team lost, right, then I would have been like clearly that that traces directly back to him. Yeah, it was tough, tough look for Sark. The big dude on Texas, he's infuriating to watch infuriating. He's so good. Oscar Clough. He's yeah, he was getting he was catching rebounds at his waist. He's got just he's got a classic big like old school big man game where if they if they throw him the ball 18 feet from the basket, no one's even within 10 feet of him. Yeah, they're like, there's just no way he's going to shoot this shot. And yeah, Texas, I mean, that was a hell of a run by Texas. Yeah, great season for Texas. Yeah, you got to make Sean Miller say no. And those two games were awesome. He got to make Sean Miller say no. The it was it was it was poor timing by I actually don't know if it was timing by the NCAA other than because they do stagger the tips. But the fact that both games were ending like the exact same time it lapsed. Yeah, yeah, they got lapped on that one. And it was they should have done the fucking instant replay. It's a replay in college basketball is broken. It's the most and it's it's the most painstaking thing to watch as a fan, especially if it's like two teams that aren't exactly known for fireworks going at each other. And then you've got these replays on seem like debatably inconsequential plays, like out of bounds at half court, did it graze off this dude's fingertip, and then you end up losing 30 minutes of game time and your game gets lapped. Yeah, by the other one. If your game gets lapped, I'm going to stop watching that game. Well, you know what the problem was? It was the instant replays in the Purdue game. But also, if if you have a Ben McCollum game, you have to do that first because he runs the football. Yeah, he every possession is all 30 seconds. That game is going to go faster. Yeah. So no duh that the Iowa Nebraska game caught up because they just that's how they that's how Iowa plays basketball. They punt. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, by the way, Fred Hoyberg did say about the four players on the floor, he said put that one on me. It was a miscommunication. I'm the head coach put that one on me. So that's good. That's good coach because I was not going to put it on him. That's a good coach. But now I'm going to put it on him. That's a good yeah. When we had four guys on the floor for with three with one minute left down three footprints in the sand to get to the elite eight. That's when that was on me. That's when Jesus was playing shooting guard for me. Yeah, that's on me. Okay, any other sweet 16 Thursday night thoughts? Great games. Really good games. I'm excited for for Friday. I am sad that our saw was gone. Yeah, I loved watching a cuff play. Yeah, by the way, my take still alive for another year. Kentucky will win a national title before Arkansas. So that wasn't even close to a sweat. I mean, Arkansas was a sweet 16 but they got absolutely I forgot about that take. Yeah, that was Arkansas fans reminded me of that take probably need a new coach in Kentucky if that takes going to true become true. But still it's it's alive for another year. Is this is this tweet from Aaron Torres correct about college basketball or just college coaches Lane Kiffin's contract $91 million. Brian Kelly $54 million buyout 2026 football roster 40 million. Matt McMahon buyout $8 million will wade buyout $3 million all in the last six months LSU has spent. Yeah, that's awesome. Throw money at it. They're just LSU is just a sports team. They're just sports team at this point. Yeah, you don't have to go to school anymore. I don't know if like, do they have classes? Well, I was gonna say, I'm sure if we talk to someone in Louisiana, there's probably some things that they're like, Hey, I wish I wish the state would spend money on this education is one of roads. I compare. Yeah, but guess what? You know what? You know what you know what can fix a pothole is an 11 win SEC team? Well, I'll tell you what, that's a fact. Like your football team wins 11 games. Your roads could suck. If you if you talk true. Yeah, if you if you talk to the parents of Louisiana and you're like, would you rather have like 50% coverage paid for for childcare or beat Florida, right? Maybe like, yeah, we can't lose on the swamp. That's called priorities. Yeah, exactly. And they're in order. Easy Louisiana. Okay, let's do a quick ad. Then we'll talk a little opening day. We also have Max Homa here. He's sitting right off camera. We're going to maybe talk to him for like five minutes. We can't burn our masters. You're good right now, Zach. You were that was a quick exit. Zach, I want to give you an assignment. I want to give you assignment real quick, Zach. What kind of because Max told us a few minutes ago that he was really into the I show speed versus Donald Trump debate that you created. Before max sits down, I want you to think of another embrace debate that you can spring on. Yeah. Okay. So a new one, not regarding speed or Trump was yes, I mean, preferably not. Yeah. Yeah, definitely. Okay. I can definitely perfect. All right. We're brought to you by Jose Cuervo when Cuervo enters every moment just gets better. You find yourself in the center of the dance floor. You can't help but stand up and high five those around you at the game. The room reacts like you just got the same text at the same time. You stop checking the time suddenly small talk escalates to laughing so hard. You could barely catch your breath. That's the Cuervo effect, a signal everybody understands a moment that anyone can join and a good time that just grows. 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What was it? Iowa State? Iowa State. I'm going to go. You caught minus one and a half. I'm going to go. Bama plus eight and a half. Bama. Okay. Bama. Okay, so lots of smart basketball people have been go bet in the DraftKings Sportsbook. Hey, can I read you a headline real quick? This headline is from the athletic. And it was 12 hours ago from the athletic for 40 years. Duke has been college basketball's most polarizing team. People love to hate Duke. But has Duke basketball become less hateable? Perhaps maybe even likable? No, who wrote did coach K write this article? It's a good question. It's not a good question. You were complimenting Duke the other day. When? Tuesday. For what? Shire. What do you mean? What I say? I don't remember this. Did I say that? What I say? I think you may not have said it. What did I say? You're like, I hate to compliment Shire, but fuck, we're talking about how the Oh, they did the handoff. Correct. Yeah. Yeah. That's fine. I can that shows that I'm, I'm a good journalist that I can still put my bias aside. This person's good journalist. This is the athletic. It's the athletic. Duke needs to be hateable forever. Don't who wrote this? You want them to be hateable forever. You wrote this. That's such a ridiculous. I don't think I think that this is way out of time. Is hating Duke falling out of style? No, no, it never it will never it's yeah, it's we got to make it cool again. It's always been cool. It will never not be. Do you know what? Actually, this is an on on Duke because they haven't won one in so long. That's when this article pops up. Whenever Duke goes a while without winning a title, they'll be like, Hey, dude, people might like like not hate Duke anymore. Yeah, it is true. This article is probably saying like when you hate Duke, you're actually punching down. Yeah, right. Yeah, poor little guys. All right. That's all I wanted to read a headline for you. Opening day. Any thoughts? Congrats. PFT. Go Nats. Go Nats. One and oh, can't go undefeated. If you don't start one and oh, very excited that we got that one. James Woods. No hits for strikeouts. The only thing I care about this not season is James Woods getting 35 plus home runs. So that was that was tough. But hey, great start to the season. Yeah. Any thoughts? We got two big first today. Oh, yeah. In baseball. Two big first one. The Philadelphia Phillies got a save on opening day at home for the first time in franchise history. Congrats, Max. That's an insane stat. I think it is. It is a real stat, which I couldn't believe is true. They've had a bunch of they've had a couple walkoffs at home in the past X amount of years, but no saves. Crazy stat. And then the Chicago White Sox had a lead off home run on opening day for the first time in franchise franchise history. That's pretty cool. So yeah, good stuff. Baseball is back baseball so back. And then we can pay attention again in like a month and a half. Paul Skeen's broken. Paul Skeen's not great. World baseball classic pot seed broke him. I think you're right. He got yanked after two. No, after two thirds, two thirds. I don't think he made it out of the first right now. He didn't make it out of the first. Wow. Didn't make it out of the first. That was also Neil Cruz's fault. Oh, yeah. Drop two like pop flies right to him. It's enter fleet fields. So that is so Paul Skeen's not broken. Oh, Neil Cruz may be broken. I'll also say that baseball has the absolute best commercials for opening day. Like nothing gets you feeling nostalgic. It's romantic like baseball opening day. Yeah, I even watched like a four minute long Japanese Major League Baseball day. Awesome. Awesome. Commercial right. Commercial. Maybe want to be Japanese. Yeah, you can. Did I was just like, this is cool. Yeah, you know what's stopping you just go and live there. Yeah, just become if we just did part of my take from Japan, Daniel Son, Daniel Son. That would be so should we do a Japan week down what golf courses they have out there. Probably a lot like give me you have one leave. I don't know. No, I was yeah, I was. We can shout out the atomic bomb after you did been live. I didn't shout out. I just shout it out. Shout out hero. Alright, one last thing I had before we get max on and we also got to talk about a big show coming up. Did you have you guys seen two things that are happening in the NBA right now? One is Luca and what he's been doing. Have you seen what Luca's been doing? Hank, if you are you aware of what Luca's been doing? His last eight games, he's averaging 40.9 points on 50% shooting eight or nine rebounds and seven assists. I think he had what does he had? He's had a yeah, he's he's basically just been ripping off. He had 43 on Wednesday night 32, 33, 60, 40, 36. These are all on the road too. He's just been absolutely on fire. And the other one was Yokech, who this past week, his stat lines have been 23, 21 and 19, 22 or 23, 17 and 17, 22, 14 and 14. Go back to the Lucas stat. How much the last how many games last eight games he's averaging 40 points a game is Luca. Is he bam hunting? He's on an all time fucking tear. Is he going big bam hunting? Listen, he would do it in a more ethical way. He would he would do it like trying to get that the record back for Kobe. Maybe I feel like that's that might be what's going on here. He did score 60 against the heat. Yeah, he's trying. He's going bam hunting. He's going bam hunting. Yeah. Yeah, both those guys. The I mean, Jamal Murray had 53 on Wednesday night and it was still like, Oh yeah, but Yokech did 23, 21 and 19. I mean, the thing about 19, by the way, we're insane. Yeah. NBA, did you see the video? Oh yeah, no, there's a couple. Well, that's home. NBA always does that with home accounting for assists. Yeah, there was a couple really there was there were just Jamal Murray isos that they were giving Joe. Yeah, no, there's one that was a handoff and Jamal Murray dribbled for like, like 15 seconds, then scored and they're like, Oh, assist. That's a, Hey, look, that's home scoring. Yeah. All right, Max, are you afraid of playing in Denver? Are you wait, what was this that you you did? Triple doubles. Yeah. So as of last when was that Monday's part of my day? Yeah. Yokech had four fewer triple doubles than Joel and Bede had games played since Joel and Bede won the MVP. Is it been playing recently or has he been injured? That's funny. You asked that. He actually came back against the bowls yesterday. Yeah, they beat him by 30. Oh, great. Look, it's the bowls who were trying to tank. They just tank too late. So wait, he did come back. Correct. And Bede had or Yokech had another triple double. So it's still, it's still four. Okay. So he kept pace. Yeah. And then wait, isn't the sixth was playing in Denver soon? Oh, that won't be in B. So Bede's not going to play. They are not playing in Denver soon. All right. At some point soon as relative, dude. Think about how we've this earth has been around for billions and billions of years. If they play in Denver next year, that's pretty soon, comparatively. And I don't think Joel and Bede is going to make that trip. He ain't making that trip, buddy. He ain't making the trip. You guys are so funny. You guys be so funny right now. The Chessics are being so far up the D&P award. Chessics are being so funny right now. It is an interesting stat. Have they played in Denver? No, yeah, they're done. Oh, they're done playing in Denver. But next year. Yeah, there's like eight games off of the regular season. Oh, they did March 17th. And he didn't play and B didn't play. Oh, that's interesting. That's interesting. All right. Anything else before any other any other news? Yeah, congratulations to the Italian soccer team. Max, they won two nothing against. Fuck yes, Northern Ireland. So that means that they play against Bosnia and Herzegovina. That's like playing two forms of Hank, righty and lefty. And if you were able to beat Bosnia and Herzegovina, you qualify for the Woodhook Cup. That'd be sick. That'd be sick. How is this still going on? Isn't the World Cup in like a month? Yeah, but they added more teams. They had expansion to the field. And there are some teams that still have to qualify. If they didn't go through like Italy did not qualify through the European qualification, but they're one of the best. They're getting like a sponsors exemption. They were one of the best losers. So it's like you can still qualify if you beat other losers. Got it. Didn't they already give out the the the groups of death? Yeah, they did. Yeah, there's there's like a spot for whoever gets that qualification. Yeah. Got it. So like in the US group, it's us, Australia, Paraguay, and then one last team that's to be named. Oh, so could Italy and US be in the no, I don't think so. I think it would be like Turkey is the team that we want to avoid, I think in that. But in the group of life and the group of life, group of life. Yeah, I mean, we did we did win the fucking we did win the fucking FIFA Peace Prize. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, we got this. How many you got over there in Italy? None. I'm zero. Thanks. Look at that. Big boy Max. I'm American. Okay. Should we talk about the big show we're doing? Yeah, let's talk about the big show. What's the date of it? May 5 May 5 May the fifth be with you is that single to mile? Yeah, single to mile. Also known as single to mile. We're doing a live show in LA for the Netflix is a joke comedy series. And it's our first big live show we did one. I think a year after Vady after BVT we did the the anniversary in Manhattan. That was a fun show. So yeah, so this is it's a big theater. So please buy tickets. We're going to make it special. We've been approached to do live shows towards a bunch. We've always thought that we didn't want to we didn't want to do it mostly because to do a live show we want to do something different. We don't want to just go sit up there on a couch and do a podcast and take everyone's money. We wanted to do something different and to do that, it would take a lot of our time away from the podcast coming up with a live show. So we're like, hey, we're going to do one we're going to do one live show will be the 10 year anniversary live show. It's going to be awesome. Rumors of Jerry O'Connel will not rumors Jerry O'Connel will be there. We're going to make him be there potentially, we're Sillo potentially Todd and Gordo possibly I don't want to put him on the spot. Jerry O'Connel is married to a supermodel supermodel. Yeah. Yeah. So we're going to have some guests and I'll say this. This will be happening two days after Max's bachelor party. I would imagine some of the stories we don't tell on the podcast will be told to the live show. I imagine there'll be a lot of stories that are told at this live show spur of the moment with no ability to hit dump or delete that will start a fight after the live shows over. It's going to be a problem. It's going to be a good time. I'm excited about it. Yeah. I really am. Can we do that thing in comedy shows where they take phones at the door? Yeah. I bet you we can. Yeah. Put the silver bag. They might. Yeah. We could do that. Let it rip. Yeah. It actually would be awesome if we did that because we could let it rip. What means? Sorry. This bracket on the weather channel. They have a bracket on the weather channel. Yeah. They just did a March Man's Bracket. What was it a bracket for? It was about the heat. Oh, okay. Cool. It was for weather. Sorry. That's hard. Oh, sunny. Oh, humid. It was up against mild. Oh, humid. This is in the final four. Human beats sunny. No, no, no. Let me just explain this real quick. Sunny was a one seed. Wait, go back. Yeah. Oh, wait. Sunny versus P cloudy. And tornadoes. Cloudy versus few clouds. Tornadoes got beaten by mild in the second round. That's a major upset. Wow. We know tornadoes got beat by windy. No, tornadoes got beaten by mild. No, look at the bottom. You're not looking correctly. No, no, no. There's tornadoes are in it twice. They use tornadoes twice. Look at the bottom. This tornadoes got beat by windy. This is terrible bracket because tornadoes are outside too. Right side is just numbers. 64 beat 88. 88 is more than 64. How? Stu Finer. Shout out to Stu Finer. It's cool. 88 degrees. You can't have tornadoes on the top and bottom of the bracket. What is this? We should do a Mount Rushmore of degrees. Yeah. Wait, wait. Wait, and hail beat freezing rain? Hazy. I don't hate that. And a stunning upset. Hazy topped hot in the opening round. How the f- This is a terrible bracket. This is the worst bracket ever. And so it's humid versus mild. Look at milds in there twice too. Mild is versus breezy. What? All right, so back to Netflix. Yeah, anyways, we're going to be doing a live show. You know what? If you think this is good content. No, I'm going to say right now on the Netflix live show, we're going to do our own weather bracket. 64. 64 weathers. We're going to do it. Let's, I like where your head's at. Let's pull back a little bit. Let's do 32 weathers. No, we can do- Because they very clearly had a tough time filling out 64 weathers. Yeah, we could come up with more than this though. What about? Yeah, sharknado. Yeah. What about hottest balls? Yeah, just wet. Yeah. Hot as balls. Brick. That perfect football weather. Football weather is a good one. Tailgate weather. Chocolate rain. Chocolate rain. Good call. Good call. Chocolate rain for sure. Acid rain. We got more weather than this. Just war. You step out. Oh, shit. Thunder snow? How do they not have thunder snow in here? Yeah. Oh, damn, that's a ball. We're in Arizona. That's probably why they don't have thunder snow. Good point, Hank. They have a couple of them twice, by the way. They have mostly cloudy and partly cloudy up top and then most. We already did that. Oh, shit. We were talking about tornadoes being in there. I'm sorry. Yeah, tornadoes getting beat up by mild is just a Travis. Again, tornadoes getting beat up by windy is a travesty. Yeah. Tornadoes are way more badass than windy. Cinderella story. Yeah. For mild. For mild. Yeah, mild did make an unreal run. I would not have had mild. Humid actually. Humid sucks. All right. So that's our live show. We're going to do it in May 5th. Buy tickets. It's going to be awesome. We will maybe slowly roll out some of the other special guests that we're going to have on in the next couple of weeks. Maybe one of us does a little stand up. Hank. Memes? I want some stand up. No, we want people to buy tickets so we can't say memes. Memes redemption would. Memes redemption would be awesome. All right. We'll figure it out. Zach, go sit where Max is. Max Holmock, you come sit here. Zach, you give Max. Because Max, we don't want to burn having you on Master's Week. By the way, you're on Master's Week, right? Are you playing the Masters this year? Against all odds I am. Yeah. Fuck yeah. I did this the year. I did too. Shocked the world. This is the year. Zero expectation. Max, at your best this year, you've been the best golfer in the world. Yeah. Eagle at the first hole. I was on pace for, I can't even do the math, but so many under. So many under. Yeah. And then I was on pace for a miscut. Yeah. And I was just on pace for 36. Wait, how is your game feeling? Actually really good. Doesn't look great, but yeah, feels good. I got to have to say something just because I was bummed that hello my intimidation factor is, but when I walked in here and locked eyes with Hank, Max didn't move. And I know what Big Dom he ran. And I felt like, man, I carry zero weight. Yeah. Not even enough to be like, I didn't even knock. I just walked in. I thought I could make an entrance. To be fair, you guys are friends. Like Big Dom had threatened Hank before that interaction. I still thought you'd be on edge, but I got nothing. I was excited to see you. Wait, so where's the next tournament? San Antonio. Okay. That's gonna be hot. That's a fielder. Do you realize how this person who made that, someone at some point, said, Hey, you have multiple things. And they said, there's no fucking chance anyone pauses this ever. Wait, yeah, so wait, Max, you live in Scottsdale. Like, what is this? What the, you got nothing to talk about weather wise? So you do brackets? Do they have Haboob up there? I can't really see. No, that's a, because that would be my winner for the coolest thing we've got going on. Look up Haboob. It's like a dust storm. It's fucking sick. I heard about those. It's just the giant wall. Yes. It's like, sure. The Mission Impossible movie where it's just like comes going at the, we have that. We do not have snow. Yeah. I mean, once every, yeah, the Haboob rocks. All right. So, um, are you in for Max's bachelor party and also the live show? Yeah, I'm in for both. I have to see Jerry, man. Perfect. Yeah. Jerry's gonna, Jerry's actually, he's actually the only one who's, who's RSVP'd yes to the bachelor party outside of these, these walls. And he's, he's ready to go. He actually sent us a picture tonight from the gym and was like getting ready for the cabana. So love that. I mean, we're going to, we're going to need a, a graphic of everyone invited. Yes. Everyone attended. Jerry, if I know Jerry O'Connell, I think that I do. He'll get invited to this live show and he'll think that this is his opportunity to do a full 2026 fantasy preview. Yes. So we'll have to stop that. We'll have to nip that in the bud, Jerry. No, I don't think that's less work for us. What if he, what if he does just draft? What if he just does like a draft preview? What if we just emcee his live preview? Yeah. Just speaking from a fan site, because I'm sure they're all thinking the same thing from my side. I consider skipping halfway through him going through the draft every time. And I never do because I know it's going to keep going. Well, it ends up being worth it. It's hilarious. But every time like, I do not need to know this. No, it's, it's essentially, it like, he lulls you to sleep and then he, and then you break through the wall and it gets funny again. Yeah. Well, it's always funny because you guys would be like, do we have like 30 seconds left and then he'll go on for 15 more minutes. By the way, we never have 30 seconds left. It's a podcast. We can go for as long as we want. He just can't. He's the only one who makes us radio host. We're like, Hey, we're coming right up against a break. We gotta go. He's the absolute best. So he's going to be on it. So yeah, you are invited to Max's Bachelor party and you're invited to the live show. I'd love to be there. Max, this way more incriminating to make people turn their phones in so you could talk about your bachelor party than just tell the story through your bachelor party. It doesn't even matter what happened. Yeah, that's now picturing what you're thinking. It's really fucked up, man. See now. No, this is a chicken and a egg. Yeah. Now we got to really fucked up shit so that we can have stories. No, now I'm just not going to do anything. Yeah. Yeah, sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. This is definitely not giving like I'm not going to get worked up about the Eagles. All right, Zach, you got something for Max? I've got a quick quick quick discourse for you. I was curious. There's been some like back and forth. Okay, honestly, not back and forth a lot. I really some I've been thinking about last couple days. I was curious what your thoughts are on this, which side you may take. What are your thoughts on so traditionally currently we have a lot of us in this room have cars, right? So many more cars, full sized cars, SUVs, trucks. What is your thoughts on maybe moving away from cars and really locking in on the golf cart as transportation A to B and only using cars highway use only so like neighborhoods outside of that we're just using golf carts on an everyday basis for travel, like kind of look like going to see your friends going to the grocery store cruising and like going to work. I like that. You could drop the driving age down like would they go faster? So I was kind of thinking same golf cart speed like golf cars maybe like the slowdown life. Yeah. Okay. What if you need to like go to the grocery store would you need like a bigger like trunk so you make a golf cart that's like maybe a little bit bigger. You could have the four seater and you laid the back seats down. Yeah. So when we were down in Florida the other week playing the same tournament as Max Homa, we drove to the golf, drove to the golf course. And Scotty Sheffard like that's been on the show. We had the same tee time actually. We drove to the golf course in a giant like six seater golf cart and it was going it got up to 25 miles an hour. It felt like you're flying when you go 25 miles an hour in this electric golf cart. And then we took it right up to the front and they valet parked it and we got out of the car out of the golf cart and started walking to the clubhouse and then Max just steps out of his car and he's like what the fuck are you guys doing up here? I forgot to tell you this big cat the funniest part of this whole so PFT goes hey you'll never believe what we're doing tomorrow and he was right. He was like yeah we're playing the other course. I said that's not that's can't be possible. It's like the biggest tournament we've got. Right. So we're like going back and forth about how it's not possible and he's like telling me how it is possible and Hank comes through with no dude we already have the golf cart and I was like yo so we don't play in fucking golf carts. It's like he threw he thought he threw it on the hammer. You are less believable now. Don't worry guys. He's the guy who pulls up to Augusta on the with the practice round pass saying no I have the ticket. Yeah. He goes no dude I already picked up the cart. Yeah the cart gets me through. All right I like this idea. It's good. I really like that idea. The only problem is that like you need 100% buy in because people would abuse it. It takes one person. Yeah one bag. Yeah. Fuck you up. I'm driving a car. I'm driving my pickup truck. Yeah. Yeah. What about weather. That was my question. What's the question about weather. It's like humid, mild, hot, sunny, tornadoes. Which weather. There's so many different weather. Let's bracket the worst weather stuff a golf cart in. I think a lot more lot of people would actually enjoy their trip in a golf court through a little bit of light rain maybe. Sometimes embrace the weather. No. Listen I would say embrace the wet. Let's zero degrees. Embrace the wet. Embrace the snow. But if you'd like to stay out of the elements just get a little bit equipped. You know like you could third party upgrade all sorts of things. You'd be amazed the attachment you get for a golf cart. Get a windshield on them. Well no the third party upgrades would just be making it a car. No we're talking but like car door you're not taking that off or most doors maybe on the on the Jeep you can take them off. Anyways not important. You can you can get quick removal things for golf carts like that front glass panel. You can throw that on the sides. You're not at all tossing snow at all. Snow. Wait okay that's true. I didn't think too much on a snow just because like when it snows people just stay inside. This is Zach's baby most people still go outside. You stay inside. I do have a follow up though. How because people would still have cars to go on like the freeway. How many what percentage of people do you think would just stop having a car. I think there'd be a decent amount of people who don't travel that far that need that a freeway necessary that would just go straight golf cart. This is Zach's most Florida take of all time and it does work. If you're in like a Florida community that absolutely could replace your car. If everyone but you're right like you have to have total buy-in. I got a question that just popped my head. Max how many times have you seen snow? Not a ton from Los Angeles to here. Yeah like it's not a lot. How many can you count on one hand? Yeah we had a there's a mountain it's called Mountain High in Southern California that's where we would go like skiing and snowboarding. Oh that doesn't count though. Like no skiing. No yeah like you're like oh shit it's snowing outside. We've been to Deer Valley for Christmas twice and so that's it. One time of the two there we actually saw it come down. That's great. Yeah that's actually a really good buy-in. What a great maybe three times. What a great life. Yeah that's so sad. I didn't realize that people said that snow is fine it's it's like the the icy rain that sucks. Yeah they're all like oh no we don't mind when it snows but like that's not super common. Yeah because I always thought it'd be cool to live in like a little winter wonderland and they said no it sucks. It's not it's the snow when it's snowing it's cool it's when the snow stays on the ground for like weeks and it looks like shit and it's just like and then we learned about I learned about black ice within the last five years. Oh yeah those videos are hilarious. They're really dangerous. I mean people people just I mean just sitting in their car watching for you would assume an hour knowing it's gonna happen. Are you talking about people slipping or are you talking about cars? No people I don't I mean yeah the car no the cars one's imagine a golf cart. They're not hilarious but they're also like I'll always stop and watch it when like a fire truck would be going down. Have you ever looked at videos about people pouring hot hot water on the to-car windshields? Yeah that's a bad idea. Really bad idea. Don't do that. Some of the freedoms you get with those. I love that. Yeah so many freedoms that is a good point. You do feel more like connected with the world when you're driving in the golf cart too. I actually think though the accidents would probably go up because people feel like when they're in a golf cart they're just like like I can't get hurt but you're still going 20-25 miles an hour. You guys started up not you I guess but your company started a whole trend of just hitting people. Yeah that's true. That was a problem. No we were part of that because I laughed every time. I actually thought about hitting Hank yesterday on the course. So there was a moment yesterday. I was driving big cat in this golf cart and Max was out in the middle of the fairway and I aimed the cart at him and I just floored it. Had like an intrusive thought that one and I was just flooring it and I was like big cat this would be so funny. But then I stopped. I stopped like 10 yards. Say thank you dude. But it would have been. Yes. Max admit that it would have been kind of funny. It would have been so funny. I would have been so mad. Why. It was a very bad trend. Think about the what if we had let you tweet it out so you got the numbers. I don't know. I might have killed you. Yeah. Say thank you. I'm going to just say thank you because I know that you're just going to say 30 times. Yeah to PFT. Sure. Thank you. You're welcome. You're welcome. Don't ever forget what I do for you. You'd be dead if it wasn't for me. Saved your life. You could have killed you. Saved your life man. All right Max. So you're on for Masters week. Yeah I will absolutely love it. One of our favorite traditions. Brooks either bails or takes my slot and then I get the midnight slot. I did. The last three years. Yeah. I do. Brooks get come on. Can you come on. Sure. Brooks did come on but we're free at midnight. And of course my dumb ass like sure man. Fuck it. I do. I do have a question for you condolences on Jupiter golf. Yeah. That was in the TGL finals. Many are saying like are you the Buffalo Bills of TGL. How long did it take you to get over that loss. I got six beers down real quick. Okay. I think that's six beer really. I actually need like a TGL like beat superfan to be like fuck Max. I'm working for doing a podcast two days after losing the championship. It's actually pretty fair. Like god damn it. How could he do this. I got a bit of grief. It was super short with Marty Smith and then super short with somebody else. It was a crazy. I was watching you just like what do you what do you think right now. It sucks. Yeah. I'm not a big fan of like experience how you feel. Not a question but I do really like Marty sorry. So I said I'm sorry. He goes no it's not your fault. We made you guys stay there forever and you guys just lost. Yeah. Cool. And would you what was the winning prize. That was a lot of money. Shit. Yeah. Did you do the Stefan Diggs thing. I should probably specify which step on. No. Watch the confetti come down. No fuck no I got out of there. I don't know how people do that. Yeah. Yeah it is kind of crazy. That's probably the weirdest thing he does. Yeah. By far. Walking in this dude told us he goes hey just so you know LA was here early like literally practicing going on the podium kind of whatever and like you know I thought I was walking there so oh man we're just going to crush them then like glad they got that hope and then right when I finished I was like well at least they know exactly where they're fucking they would have had to direct us but yeah that was a tiger came back it was cool as fuck and we played 10 of 15 holes so that was a tough tough tough look for the boys. What's next year. Which like are you are you boys a tiger now. Yeah tiger I got lucky handful of years ago played with them at the open championship and then started to get a bit closer with him. I won his tournament which helped but he's been super cool to me. We played practice rounds at majors and then playing on his team the last two years. It's pretty awesome but I try to tell everybody man like tigers just like a guy. Yeah. I honestly do feel bad for him a lot of the times when we do these interviews because he hasn't played golf in a while and I mean he'll he has some days where he looks great and some days you could tell he's really limping and every question is just like so are you going to like golf for us next year or next week at the masters and it's like can you just let him just live. He's just a person man he's won a shit ton of golf tournaments he's everybody in golf's like you know at some point favorite golfer near near to it. So that's been hard because I just think he wants to play obviously and he looked really good. He's is pretty incredible when he sets his mind to something but at the end of the day I just like for him to like enjoy playing golf and you know son's super good at golf and you know Charlie's enjoy yeah Charlie's a man. It was great. Yeah he I think he loves all you guys. Yeah really. I mean that's all the head covers and all that. We didn't know we just picked him because he's awesome. He's the best. He kills us. He tells us how bad we are all the time and then at the last match they were doing like only in in in state classic Charlie. He probably learned it from you guys. We call him Chas. In the stadium they were doing like the celebrities in the crowd they pan to Charlie and we just went nuts. He was super embarrassed. Oh man yeah I don't know don't put Chuck like that. So Tigers is a regular dude like like oh yeah like you just like call him right now. He'll pick up and we can just talk to him right. He's the east coast. It's pretty late there. We've done that before. He has been on the show. SVP called him. Yeah it didn't let us talk to him. I remember. Yeah. Do you have to like take out a full page ad in the Jupiter Gazette or whatever. Be like sorry we let you down. Yeah we probably did. Dude it was actually great the first night of the series of the finals. I mean they the the walkout by the way that is the corniest thing we do. I've never felt worse about myself every single week. So we I don't remember what our walkout song is but then LA came behind us our second they were they came out to Dr. Dre and kids was like damn this is a great walkup song. I said yeah it's pretty tough to compete LA rap and Jupiter links. Jupiter rap. So the rap scene out here is not super sick. So we were way behind the A-ball so early. Oh man all right next year. Next year. Next year we'll get him. Next year. All right Max well we can't wait to talk to you in a couple weeks and also you're coming to Max's bachelor party. Yeah no I can't wait for that way more. You're definitely. Yeah. Put me on the graphic. The graphic is going to be dream team level. We got to actually maybe invite Michael Jordan. Just so you can put up. You got to make him say no. Will you please invite Tiger for us. I will. Okay. That's done. Are you guys going to leave Charlie off. This one. Yeah we got to invite him Hank. Invite Edelman. Who. But can you just text Tiger and be like hey the guys from PMT want to invite you to Max's bachelor party. Ha ha. Just say that. Perfect. I'll like I'll screenshot it and instant delete it. What about Charlie. Charlie's underage. No Charlie's I think he's 18 right. But first off first off Vegas is absolutely not like an 18 and over place. Charlie Charlie's a he's a grown kid now. I don't think so. He's also he's also got to be 17. I don't think he's in college. He's definitely 17. He just yeah he just committed to FSU. He's a grown he's a grown I missed his birthday. Oh my god. Dude Tiger's definitely not coming now. Yeah. Damn. It was in February. Okay. Yeah. How old is he. He's 17. Okay. So what is your birthday. No bachelor party. No I'm not dying. What is your birthday. All right. Okay. Imagine if it was like yes. If it's today or even worse it was two weeks ago when you were with him. Yeah. I'll tell you it's 12 oh one tonight. All right. So Tiger's been okay. I got plenty of time. I got plenty of time. What are you September now. November. November. Okay. All right. Thank you Max. Thank you. You're the best. Let's kick it to ourselves with John Harbaugh and then Firefest. Before you get to Coach Harbaugh is brought to you by great friends at Experian. Boost your credit instantly with Experian Boost. Experian Boost is completely free. It can instantly raise your credit score at everyday on time payments like phone utilities and even rent payments to your Experian credit file so your positive history can count. It's fast secure and free and built for people whose credit doesn't tell the whole story. You can see results quickly. Many customers get instant credit score uplift. Download the app get started for free results will vary. Not all bills or subscriptions are eligible. 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It's been it's been fun. It's been it's been crazy hard. I've been to dinner twice. That's it. You know and it's been kind of it's been kind of a madhouse both times. Yeah yeah yeah living in New York is definitely a different beast. It's crowded here. Did you notice have you noticed when you're out here. There's a lot of people that live in this area. I'd heard that. Yeah. Much much different. Yeah so so congratulations big off season for you. We were we're speculating because when when the Ravens let you go we were like John Harbaugh can probably take whatever job that he wants right now. You're probably going to be the number one name in contention out there. Did it ever occur to you like maybe maybe I just don't want to coach football for a year. Maybe we'll see what that's like and maybe do media whatever that might be. Or was it always like you need to get back into football. Yeah I mean I thought about for like a bit like maybe about 20 seconds. And then I was like nah nah it's a well how would I explain it to my brother. You know I mean he you know I'd be yeah he wouldn't he'd have nobody to hang out with at the owners meetings. No one wants to talk to him usually anyway so he's got me so I can't leave him alone like that. Now I never really thought about it too much. I was really surprised by I mean there's a lot of you have a lot of thoughts a lot of emotions that you kind of deal with in moments like that. And I don't know it's really hard to explain it all but one of the thoughts I did not have was not coaching. That was really not a thought. And if I had my wife pretty much was telling me like oh you're still coaching. You know you're not going to be hanging around the house here at any point in time for the next year. So just plan on finding another job. So that helped that helped make my decision. Yeah. Yeah I would imagine having the fear of having to call your brother and dad and saying hey I'm thinking about taking a year off. You can't you can't have that. And I think they probably Jim probably feels the same way. If he if he ever got fired it's like hey I'm not I'm not taking a year off. I can't you guys you guys were built to coach football. Yeah you're off from what. Yeah. You know my dad my dad's theory on that. He Jim asked him the advice one time about like you know how long do you coach dad. You know when do you know it's done. And my dad always felt like he probably he probably got out of it a little bit too early. You know he stayed with Tom and Marquette there for a few years and helped him out. But I think he always but he had us so he still coaches you know he basically coaches us every day sends us texts. He watches our practices sometimes not so nice but but he said that he said dad you know when you know that it's over he goes you know when you know when it's over Jim is when you you get up in the morning and you really don't want to even get up and get in your car. You get in your car you drive in you hate every minute of the drive in. You drive in the parking lot. You see the building. You don't like the building anymore. You don't like the cars in the parking lot because they're the people you don't want to see when you get in the parking lot. Everything about it is just something that is distasteful to you. You hate it. When you get to that point you coach for two more years then you'll be done. That's great. Two more years. Two more years. That's really good advice. Yeah so so congratulate we knew that you were going to be back. We never thought that you would take a year off either. It's not in your DNA. It's not that's not the hard ball way to step away from football for a year. Was there was there a moment like did you know that it was going to happen before the end of the year? Did you have an idea that hey if if things don't go away if we don't make the playoffs whatever the case might be that it might be time for that that parting of ways. Well I think you always as you know coach player probably but you know I don't never take the next day for granted you know even even when things are going well I always feel like we're one day away from disaster you know one day away from the apocalypse pretty much you live your life that way in coaching so I always felt like hey you know if the job's not getting done it's not good enough you know that they'll make a change you don't you don't you don't you don't have a job it's not your job you don't own it I guess you rent it maybe is what is what people say. You just try to do the job not keep the job so I really wasn't worried about it ever keeping the job and I felt like you know at some point in time if they if they felt like I wasn't the best guy for the job to do the job then then they're going to put me out of the job you know and that's what they should do when they feel that way so it didn't it didn't bother me in that sense I took a lot of pride in what we did I took a lot of pride in this season I thought you know honestly as a coaching staff it might have been our best job this year coaching this team I thought we did a great job but it it wasn't good enough in terms of getting us where we needed to get for whatever reason so sometimes sometimes God's in control too you know sometimes uh sometimes there's another plan you know I read I read my bible I think there's some some Amos maybe or Isaiah one of those prophets you know God said go and he said where he said just go and uh and he went so that's what the Raven said to me they said go you know I said where he said we don't care right go wherever you want and uh but then and you know my agent called in about 20 minutes uh there was there was a there was a bunch of calls and and uh that that was I did not expect that either I don't I don't think you really know what to expect but Giants called right away as well and that was something that worked out and I'm really really thrilled to be here I think it's a great organization great people a great city obviously players have been phenomenal all of it has been just beyond my wildest dreams so really excited about can't wait till the players get in here in April man they're gonna be here in a couple weeks yeah as a commander's fan I I wish that you'd gone to a different team so I'll be rooting for you every weekend except for two this year uh so just take it a little bit easy on the commanders when you when you have that chance but what was it about the Giants that made you think okay this is the team that I want to go to well you know first of all it's just the Giants I mean that's that's a big part of it and I'd always admired the ownership here you know I'd admired the family ownership and and really got to had known the mayors to a degree starting with John who was always representing the organization at the owners meetings and all the committee meetings I mean I just thought he was a a giant literally in the league an icon in the in the national football league so had great respect for him and for you know what they stand for here as an organization and then you know you grow up it's New York Giants I mean when I was in Philly we played against him you'd come into the parking lot we we we we we lost to him one year when I was in Philly and we had seven buses and the the wives bus going back to Philly got got left behind I mean like literally you know like that that series of books left behind yeah us got left behind in the parking lot in New York and they started egging the bus and rocking the bus back and forth and uh and my wife is calling me you know on the phone you know it's like you know help help we're stuck here you know you've you forgot us and they had to send security back to get them I don't know if the bus like broke down or just got surrounded or what but it's crazy uh well Philly had their their their share of issues too my wife's first game when we got there as assistant coaches was against the Giants and she was walking in all excited for the game from a parking spot to go to her seats and see her husband coach in the national football league and she saw these two Giants fans with their Giants jerseys and they're two guys two buddies you know they're they're walking the game they're talking they're laughing and they had to go through this this row of cars where they were grilling their Eagles fans are grilling and they uh she sees them and and all of a sudden they get surrounded by Eagles fans they get kind of jumped and they don't hit them or anything but they grab them and they grab their jerseys and they pull their jerseys over their heads like hockey style and just pull them both off walk over and throw them on the bachis and they light them on fire they don't even have their t-shirts it's like wow that's the national football league so yeah yeah that's the NFC east that's the NFC that's the NFC's I have one last question because I have more questions about the Giants but I had one last question about uh uh you know leaving Baltimore and and everything that happened this year did you have a conversation with Mike Tomlin afterwards because it was kind of sweet obviously no one wants to get fired but it was like you know uh 95 year old couple you know the the husband dies and the wife dies like two days later that's kind of what happened with you guys because you had so many years together it's like yeah we're just gonna go out at the same time I guess that's the way it went yeah we haven't we haven't spoken since you know we haven't spoken since I guess we're dead to each other now I did text him but I haven't I haven't gotten the text back I don't know maybe he lost my number at that point but uh it was uh it was it was unbelievable amazing and I like I said afterwards so much respect I mean for Mike and and and yeah I mean you play the Steelers you were playing a Mike Tomlin coach team it was always the same it was always the same thing same problem you know well coach team that knew how to win so uh yeah I'm sure we'll get a chance to have a beer talk it out one of these days it's it's history now yeah well onto the next thing it was a great era in both your lives it really was it really was uh all right so so now for the Giants and like you're in one place for 18 years now you're you're in a new place is there any part of you that's I assume you're not going to change how you do this but are there updates you're making to your coaching style I know it's a new staff but is there like a little self-assessment like hey I got another shot here I get a kind of a blank page a new locker room guys that have never been around me is there any kind of new approach you're taking yeah I mean I don't know if it's new but I hope it's better you know it's like it's a it's along the same lines probably but better uh you do have a chance to kind of sit back and say okay I can start fresh I'm not dealing with things that maybe I was dealing with before everything's going to be a clean slate for everybody you know so it's a clean slate for players uh we've talked about a couple guys that are coming back to the team that are excited about having a new opportunity with new staff it's a clean slate for me you know it's a clean slate to just kind of work the way that you approach the team with the the the belief system that we have or the motivation stuff or the way we build the offense we're building out a whole new offense we're building an offense out that has never been seen in the history of the national football league I mean like literally because we're building the New York Giants offense you know with our terms and our schemes and for our players and that's really fun to do same thing on defense and special teams so how can we do all that stuff better but there are things that you look back and you say you know that got a little away from me that got a little out of hand I don't really like the way that evolved and went how could I do a better job of making sure it doesn't go in that direction in the future with the new up new team and just start with a fresh slate so you're right big cat I mean that's that's a big part of it yeah and then and then like bringing in a couple guys because I know you guys got Isaiah likely uh you got Ricard is that also where where you have a couple eyes and ears in the locker room where those guys can help along the new guys being like hey this is what coaches is asking for from us the standard is the standard like you know just helping them understand you where it's almost a go between not not saying you have like moles in the uh or you know snitches in the in the locker room but it's not as smart to get those guys yeah yeah yeah I'll be hanging out in the locker room too so you know we don't really need some moles or stitches but hey guys how you doing now we uh it's part of that yeah it's part of that because I do think there's an element of the guys that just kind of understand like who who what it's about the guys very crazy like plow talk to the players a lot of players come up I'm talking to guys all the time and they're always basically the same thing they're like like yeah talk to so and so I talked I've talked to about 10 of your former players or these three guys and they all say the same I say I'll say well what do they say what they say right yeah you say oh you better be ready to work don't make sure you're in shape I'm like well that's good I'm glad they said that yeah that's because that is actually true and then they they're smart enough to follow that up with this is uh yeah that's I was really glad to hear that I was excited to hear that because I like to work it's good because yeah they're gonna work but um I think it's partly that you know they can kind of say hey you know is he is he crazy no it's not crazy this is what he's saying this is kind of how it's gonna go uh does he mean that yeah he means that that's what he means that's what he's talking about or he means this or whatever um is this for real uh is this genuine yeah he's pretty much gonna be like this every day I hope that's what they'll say to the guys you know but also really mainly though big cat it's the fact that these guys are good players and they fit the you know the they fit what we're trying to do offensively defensively they fit in real well and uh they're gonna like play a big role for us so not just those guys and we brought 16 we signed 16 guys yeah free agency and we did it with just mid-level spending in the national football league for free agency we were right in the middle and we signed 16 guys with that you know so I think the Ravens had about the same and they signed eight guys so I'm really excited about the fact that we got a bit I think we had a lot for a buck so to speak and and these are all guys that are motivated guys that wanted to be here for the right reasons that are going to fit like our style of play we'll see but I really kind of pleased with these guys and we're not done yet yeah well the Ravens had nine guys for a little bit but then it went back to eight after a second that must have been weird for you to be like now you guys are trading draft picks okay interesting cool no that never went through my mind no no of course not of course not uh so so you get to the giants like big cat said you bring in um record you get the most physical guy maybe to ever play uh play the modern game on your team just okay go out there let's let's hit some people Patrick uh have you had a chance to talk to camp scataboo another very physical running back because he said something the other day that might be concerning as a coach he said that uh he's talking about his ankle and he's like yeah I'm kind of in good enough shape right now where I can get away from a baby hippo and if any other player had said that I would think it's a metaphor with scataboo there's a there's a decent chance that he actually has rented a baby hippo that he's training with in his backyard so dangerous yeah have you followed up with him on that quote well I don't know if you guys know this enough but baby hippos are surprisingly fast with amazing change of direction skills so yeah I'm kind of happy to hear that he's that far along I mean that you know and that's probably a pretty good training method uh his guys do this dude man is like one of a kind I was just weird when I was getting interviewed just they're there showing me the facility which they're tearing down here like in four months this part of the facility but he was back in there working out on the uh the the treadmill that lifts you up and doesn't make it quite as heavy and uh he didn't see me coming around the corner and he's like it was the ownership it was everybody he's like oh dudes how you guys do he starts screaming hey he's got a do the scataboo thing all of a sudden I came around the corner he's like oh oh oh so then he's on the phone he's on a phone FaceTime uh like three days ago because he got a new uh new puppy poo uh new puppy weiner dog weiner dog he's a weiner dog guy yeah and um he's got a little he's got a three or four two or three weiner dogs so that was kind of cute I love that see that yeah he is he's a perfect like the Harbaugh family sees a guy like that that guy just wants the way you know your brother always sold human body crames contact that is Camp Scataboo right yeah that's our kind of guy man I mean he fits the he fits the personality of the team the offense the family yeah the whole all the guys do the quarterback does uh the left tackle does uh the tight ends do I mean I'm I'm I'm really kind of excited I'm kind of excited is an understatement like fired up to be around these guys this is the bunch of hungry guys that want to work yeah they tell me and they're ready to go are you still getting hands on with the uh special teams department hands on yeah hands on very hands on very uh very uh yeah it's kind of important you think it's important special teams yeah I mean yeah I think these playoffs actually showed us exactly how important it can be yeah yeah you just have big play after big play happened I mean the Seahawks your one of your former guys Mike McDonald who he had on the show who actually told us a very funny story that once he went from you to your brother he said that he kept on getting asked what's by like media and people what's the difference between the two Harbaugh brothers so he went to Jim he said hey I keep getting this question what am I supposed to say and Jim just said just tell him I'm taller so that was a good answer but he you know the Seahawks spend a lot of money on special teams and it's very important and you can see it in in their playoff run in their Super Bowl run how important special teams it always feels like one of those swing plays in the playoffs comes down to special teams well they have a great special teams coordinator yep it's it's uh runs in the family as well by the name of Jay Harbaugh and you know he's kind of growing up with it uh he was in college he was a special teams you know student assistant and uh was in Baltimore then he was with Jim so he's been trained the right way uh you know right out of the cradle yeah I mean to me they had by far the best special teams in the league last year and uh Jay did a great job great job great job coaching those guys great players who played hard but they I think they were reflected Jay I mean you could argue they were the difference yeah yeah a lot of ways in that team last year so yeah we got to do that I mean if you look at the Seahawks all credit to Mike McDonald I just they did a great job they're the whole organization obviously did a great job but but Mike brought in a you know a mentality a mindset a way of doing things he's really smart really bright really thoughtful guy honest guy um they built the kind of team that we would like to build here I mean if you watch the way they played that's the kind of team that we would like to build in New York and you know we're gonna have to be competing against them in this conference so yeah just much respect for what they did I hope we could do the same yeah I've got a really really dumb question for you coach but I have to ask as coach the giants we heard a rumor like what was this five years ago that Ben McAdoo when he was the coach there had a tiny door that led to his office like there were all these doors in the hallway that were normal sized but McAdoo for sorry his door was like really small and it led to a normal size office is that true or have we just been believing just a fake rumor that we got got with yeah I'm looking around at the guys here that were here they're shaking their head absolutely that yeah of course they do that they don't want to know like he's on to you know about the tiny doors I'm gonna choose to believe it even if you tell me it's not true the little door the little door that's been removed from the office in there that used to be there just beyond the lookout like I know I think now you'll at least take a take a second glance at a couple doorways well what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna go to my office walls I'm gonna kind of go like like feel for scenes you know hidden doors in there somewhere yeah like like uh like JFK in the White House right he had one where he could get out if he needed to during the day yeah yeah there's hidden doors by the way when did you realize that you sounded just like Joe Biden oh yeah you know I I channel I I'm not happy with that at all I mean I might have had a little sore throat that day I got a little sore throat today you know Joe Biden really I mean I mean did you guys think I sound like Joe Biden when someone said like close your eyes and listen to it I I was like oh my gosh he might be right maybe a young like the whole interviewer like one sentence maybe that they clipped out it was probably just the one part that sounded like how about this can you just say like hi this is president Joe Biden and you're listening to part of my take I could I could do that actually oh Diodes like do not do that how do we do not do that how about how about you just say uh I love ice cream and you're and you're you're a dogface pony boy I do love ice cream so funny when it would have hit the ice cream anymore can Joe Biden still eat ice cream yeah you can eat ice cream why can't you eat ice cream nice yeah it's at you know you gotta you know there's a lot of issues that sounded like Joe right there you sound like Joe yeah it's crazy because you've been in our collective lives you know the the NFL fans lives for so many years the fact that it took that long and then one tweet and someone was like hey if you close your eyes it kind of sounds like president Biden we're like what oh yeah I'm gonna have to dispute that I'm putting that in dispute right now I want that to be I want to I want a judicial hearing red flag it's rolling red flag yeah that's yeah I'm not accepting that I will not accept that comparison okay that's fair um all right so uh by the way congratulations on uh your your college basketball team I have of Ohio unbelievable love and honor uh incredible season march all that and I also saw that you are doing commencement and uh at the end of the uh spring semester so have you have you done a commencement speech before I did I did want for Stevenson University which is in Owings Mills about 12 years ago okay so I can't dust that speech off okay it's gonna be unique I was talking to some of my college buddies uh they've sent me some suggestions for for stories to tell uh maybe uh some that will not be told uh on the commencement stage but uh man I'm fired up about it like a lot of uh a lot of great memories love that university kind of makes you you know how it is the the people you meet and the and the things you go through in college and all those types of things that kind of make you who you are in a lot of ways so I was just like David Saylor and appreciated uh the president and the and the organ you know the administration asking me to do it but um I can't wait to get back on campus and celebrate that uh that the nca tournament victory the one they're gonna get gonna get it maybe maybe a couple more here we'll see what happens but yeah yeah so so like do you get you I would assume you don't get nervous whatsoever doing public speaking right uh nah you get a little nervous still really I mean you know do you ever get nervous no I I would assume for you especially like you're in front of a bunch of you know big strong guys having to command a room of alpha males like getting up in public speaking is second nature to you because I we do it a lot and I don't really get nervous anymore I kind of wish I did I just kind of I feel like hey I can do this I've done it before I can do it again I know I can kind of fall back on what I've been able to do for me it's about a room that's like 10 to 20 people is that's when you get the most nervous yeah when it's like a small group and when it's massive you can just like kind of tune it out and say okay I'm gonna go up here I'm gonna do my thing that I've rehearsed but yeah that small group when everybody's looking at you and you're making eye contact with every person that that's when you start to overthink things for me I'm just gonna try to like try to have a decent message you know try to have a couple funny stories maybe and and but that kind of relate maybe to the message but you want to try to like in a commencement speech you want to first of all you want to you want to follow the five B's of of uh of public speaking I mean you want to start with that Jim Caldwell taught me that the five B's of public speaking be brief brother be brief so that's good that's really good but yeah maybe have maybe have a word or two and then maybe take everybody out to CJ's which is our football bar out there and you know buy them a rolling rock or something yeah yeah you're right though the commencement speech like you can't you want to you want to nail it but if you if you go too long you're gonna because it's a bunch of kids they're 22 years old probably hungover or or drunk having you know their last weekend on campus you got to hit them with some good stuff and then get out get out get make make a laugh say something poignant you know and then get and move on yeah let's go to brick street yeah yeah exactly keep it moving um so yeah what so what's the calendar like for you guys right now is it all hands on deck for the draft are you are you like getting your hands dirty with the draft prep now it's yeah it's everything it's like it's like it's wall-to-wall draft prep watching tape uh then with that it's it's finishing up on free agency uh we've got the 30 visits coming in we still have some free agent guys coming in uh that's that's kind of a big part of it too and then it's for us it's players coming in and we're still building our systems out so like we're still meeting like heavily on football offense defense and special teams like you know what are we going to call motion when the tight end goes across the ball then comes back the other way and kicks out the defensive end what do we call that you know you got to pick a word that kind of makes sense to everybody so you know how are we going to build all this stuff out and do it so like everybody's everybody's been avalanched in in work but they're doing a great job and we just want to make sure that when the guys come back they see they see that we're ready you know that we're ready we're fired up we're organized and we got a plan even like signs in the buildings and paint you know painting things up and throwing tv screens up that are going to have messaging all the things that you want to do to to try to create the environment that the guys feel like all right we're going to do this the right way so that's what we're doing it is a little bit like if you're taking over a brand new job for you it's a little bit like interior decorator as well as it is like football coach you know like i think bill parcell said if you if you want to change the culture like start with changing the carpet out everything about the place have there been any like major like changes that are major to you that might seem like a small deal to everyone else well yeah i mean like we we do we do a lot of stuff with tv screens so we're putting that up for like different reasons and all those so these big huge like i didn't know they made like 98 inch screens those are like really massive so i want to get one from our house when we have we ever move into one here uh just signs on the walls you know one of the signs we had i was thinking about like okay do i want you know relentless relentless is a big word right so i want relentless on there because being relentless is like it's a relentless thing to do we got to do that i wanted persistence that persistent that's big too relentless and persistent they seem like they're the same thing but they're a little bit different i couldn't decide so i just put them both up i put up relentless persistence could have been persistent relentlessness yeah that was a little too long for the wall so i went relentless persistence and i felt like that kind of captured the mindset and then the other one was finish everything all the time so like everything is going to be a big deal too like everything confront everything you know work hard at everything everything all the time all the time everything that's what we're doing everything necessary all the time finish everything all the time that's that you just basically described how i eat every meal that's just everything in front of me is gone truly important yeah clean play club that's important we're growing boys yeah yeah i'm still growing boy well coach this has been awesome i got one last question for you it's a roback question rhoback.com promo code take 20 off your first purchase q zips polo hoodies jagger shorts roback.com promo code take my last question is not even a question it's more suggestion and you don't have to take it i don't want you to have to you know give away anything but we're good friends with james winston you could use james all over the field he could catch he could he could be in the backfield he could throw he could do everything just throw it out there he's a swiss army knife you saw that touchdown against detroit last 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somewhere in the middle of that i no i'm not gonna say i had a question but i'm gonna save it but i could ask it now do you think you should be better at golf yes okay i agree that's the whole that's the beauty of golf that's the lefty thing he just hasn't practiced enough yet right like i play a lot like i that's why i switched right because i was not getting better right right okay i'm also not yeah it is what it is right golf is it's it's fun because a lot of time goes into it like i would i feel like you should be like borderline pro yeah like i feel like you should be like the greatest gambler of all time but like you know i suck you're right this is yeah it's it's but that's you know our hobbies are our hobbies and we love and we love to do what we do even if time and time again we fail right but what are we gonna do tomorrow gamble get back on the horse get back on the horse that's uh i don't put in as much time gambling as you do golf making picks is not like if i spent two hours every day research in games then i would maybe say yes i do not research games for two hours a day i don't golf do i don't know what if you what no the watch game that you would not watch watching games is totally different though i'm saying like if i was actually prepping i'd be i'd have to be a professional gambler got it i know what you're saying yeah like if i was to if at 10 o'clock you came to the office i had spreadsheets everywhere and i was breaking down matchups and shit i don't do that i shoot from the hip and i lose that's me i don't practice i just go out and play golf expect to get better don't get better but that that's you know i gotta just practice more what you practice can i do my fire first yeah all right so my fire fest i was playing i i've been playing a lot of golf with hank this week and it's been a lot of fun doing some desert golf i like the golf out here uh we did walk past a bush the other day and the bush started to rattle at main memes so that was kind of cool i was into that but um the real fire fest is i went to play golf with hank i think this was tuesday morning we had a great time awesome course uh shout out mccormick yeah mccormick um so hank hits me up we talked about getting there maybe like an hour before maybe 40 minutes before um and so i got there about 40 minutes before the tea time and i was like hank where you at and hank was nowhere to be found and uh one of the guys that was running the course came up to me was like yeah hanks over there getting a lesson and i was like oh okay and uh i kept waiting for the lesson to be done for hank to come back we get started turns out hank was getting a lesson not from one guy but hank had two different teachers that were teaching him how to how to golf and then i i was late and i was i was lessonless you got gang bang lessened he got there two men teaching hank out of golf at the same time shout out to bright shout out to keith uh two dudes at one time lesson i i mean pft we we talked about it that like i said like i was gonna go early these guys were gonna have you know hit us give me a few tips before we play because we played with them like the guys out there they're they're like brish cope keith they're like instagram like golf teachers uh influencers great great golf great pft we're in a league of completely different they're playing a different sport playing with good golfers it's like we were playing a different sport um you said you have the range of 10 25 our t times at 10 40 uh yeah but i told you i was going up there like 10 o'clock i think you i text you what your et at 10 you said 15 did you did you take two dudes at one time lesson i told i invited pft to do the same i said i'm gonna get there early did you get double lessons i don't know there would be lessons i got double tips you you just didn't listen i told you i told you exactly what the they were just both you know looking at my swing give me tips was there any point where they both are like holding your hands behind you no yeah one guy was holding my lower body one guy was holding my upper body i just didn't know that you were getting lessons from two men at the same time i've never even heard of that happening that's fucking kinky yeah i guess yeah i mean listen that's how much hank loves golf i was i'm just trying to try to get better every day i love that and he is getting better hanks getting better the real firefest is that hank has been developing so quickly left handed that i i fear that we will lose him at some point because he's just gonna get too good at golf the word on the street is your lefty game has gotten awesome it's i mean it's it's where we're making progress we're making progress trying to get better every day are you better lefty than righty yet i don't think i'm fully better lefty than righty yet but i'm only three months but you've gotten the the the arrow's pointing up in a steeper yeah the the thinking was like i have a much higher ceiling and i can progress faster and we're on that trajectory so we're going to the ceiling yeah we just gotta keep going i have a question are we right now you're doing like a hybrid yeah chipping because like we with the simulator which no one wants to hear any of this but like the simulator i want to hear it's good for like hitting balls like full swings but chipping is like you know more handsy and it's like you got to practice kind of like in a real facility or like at a real course you're a place for man get it can we get that for the office no once it gets a nice i can i can do that elsewhere in my free time uh but so i've just been i've been chipping and putting righty until i can get to a course in practice those things lefty got it so you're not my plan is to be fully lefty okay okay yeah you're gonna go full left yeah but so two dudes at one time two guys one time two guys i was over there just i was on the range by myself developing bad habits thinking i wish i could get one person to teach me and then hanks just got more guys than he can count working on at the same time a hundred percent told you my plan and it was like i did not know that did not know that there would be a double lesson did not know this was supposed to be one for me one for you we're supposed to do a two man that's not true that's not true that is not true that is not true it was not it was not set up yeah well not pft oh yeah yeah but all three people would participate i had double yeah oh and then during the round there were just every time hank would hit somebody like oh yeah hank didn't that feel good it was really good yeah i was like wow these guys really like hank for some reason it would have been sick if you had pulled up a chair and watched hank get two two guys at one time yeah i i did feel like a cuck out there wait what was your firefress hank you don't have one pmt spring break was great best trip ever best best work trip ever well we're saying in the car this is kind of like super week we just sort of it's madness and a lot of people like have like one thing and then they can like go out and we don't get that in super week so we finally have a week where you have fun yeah it's great we did dinner with the boys last night love that yeah did a lot of fun been a great time hanging out by the pool chain slept with an onion bumping tunes chain slept with an onion you know good old fashioned fun we did we shoulda i i booked the dinner and i regretted once i got there i was like i should have backtracked found a place with tear misu first and then i should have that should have like i was just looking for a good dinner spot but i should have been looking for a good tear misu spot that has dinner yeah the only i guess the only really firefest besides hank and gang bang by uh two golf instructors is i i usually my rule is i have vacation gelato i have ice cream every night when i go on vacation or when i'm out of town and i haven't had any ice cream at all in this trip no it's it's tough i pulled i i mean it goes into my firefest i i open up the the freezer there's just no ice cream and my ice cream guy is here with us yeah the ice you're my ice cream guy the ice cream's going so soon like he's he could be hitting this corner any moment which is that cream team which is bad timing for us actively recording audio for him to come yeah i understand that in its own self the misstep completely completely not cool as the ice cream guy in this team to not have ice cream stocked up for you guys to enjoy in a hot like a hot day in arizona yeah it's just unacceptable if you if you could run it back what would what would be an acceptable time for the ice cream to get here like it should just be it should have just been here it should have just been here as we're in an airbnb there should be ice cream there's ice ease and it should have just existed in the freezer and so anytime it's like ooh i would like a sweet treat you tap in yeah and it's just not i did i guess this is a firefest kind of uh call back to tuesday show before we were like in the kind of like bag drop area like all the carts where you know there's workers and people like getting ready for their rounds uh awl was like hey like lefty right today i was like lefty like he was like we were distanced where we're kind of yelling and then he's like gets in his car and drives away he's like guy loves osama bin lad and i was like shut up and then my buddy was like what was that and like there was you know it that conversation happened where like a lot of people heard it and i was like or wednesday's show might have been our like peak idiot jazz show but it was all-time idiot trying to explain that i was like yeah i might have shouted him out yeah the other day and he's like what shout out yeah but i mean like i didn't remember how he got brought up in the first place bl gets a quick shout out yeah i mean you gotta separate the art from the artist sometimes yeah the kid was just like hey go up to your right he's like god i was bin lad and i was like yeah shout out and then like it was just one of those things with the workers and people around probably like what yep the fuck was that all right so my firefest is uh you had no ice cream um that's a big fire it is here yeah it's here oh go get it we'll we'll keep the show going come on go get it come on zack i'm so hungry for this i'm i it's about to also we haven't had dinner what we haven't had dinner yeah i know he's got to cook the dinner which like we'll see how that goes he keeps maybe have a little bit of ice cream before dinner just a little bit oh my god holy shit oh my god there's four bags that looks like all right i'm we're gonna we're gonna a hundred dollars with the ice here he goes with the ice cream and he's nervous about this also the grill's on right now and no one's attending it that's another zack where do you smell that yeah all right zack show no show us come here and show us everything you bought the only candy you got was really in here yeah the only candy you got was Reese's correct talking like that talking like zack so we do have vanilla variants here we got we got some vanilla okay i know guys also like chocolate ice cream did you get oh those aren't pints those are those are there's 10 to 12 people here i was thinking make if you wanted to scoop out of different options yeah we do have so i was like safe play as you get chocolate vanilla and then we have some toppings i'll go with those in a bowl okay so like make a sundae oh okay so we make your own sundae run the football chocolate vanilla ice cream we got chocolate vanilla there's also there's like some two audible flavors in the back you guys might be into if you're not into chocolate or the vanilla and then we have like uh chocolate sauce caramel sauce and then i got so many Reese's to put in this in this in this game i we got the cups and i'm pretty sure we have the pieces and then we also make a mini Oreo Reese's combo tiny cup which will be good to put in these ice creams love that that's good zack i'm lactose intolerant but i love ice cream is there any ice cream that you got that i can have tonight that's not true i'm just a bad guy then no no strict question all that ice cream we don't respect people who are lactose intolerant on this show there's so much lactose in all of this ice cream okay we'll be in the bathroom right you the freezer's open by the way i kept your case throwing the go go go the freezer's probably hotter than the grill right now okay good job zack good job ice cream sundaes with the boys after zack cooks us dinner in sports winning takes more than talent it takes strength reliability and the drive to go to the distance sound familiar that's the same dna you'll find in the chevy sovarado as capable and dependable as a winning team chevy sovarado shows up it gets the job done it won't flinch when the pressure's on it doesn't take plays off when it comes to trucks chevy sovarado's football guy approved to learn more about sovarado visit chevy.com all right my other firefest um well i've i've too one is uh i saw ken rosenthal was not able to to to speak with him which i'm regretting uh i went to the cubs spring training with my kids on tuesday walk in was with my kids was like it's 100 degrees in arizona see ken rosenthal out of the corner of my eye like all right i'm gonna drop my kids under the shade and then i'm gonna go back and be like i have no problem i'd be like hey you probably hate my guts dude like it is what it is go drop my kids off walk back he's just gone poof i don't know if i ran him off but i can't wait for the day to be able to talk to ken rosenthal because again i don't really hate him but i also would like to i like awkward uh interactions so i would like to have that awkward interaction if i were you i'd been i would have been scoping out the rooftops nearby looking the bushes let's try to make sure you were safe what you okay max max doesn't like the awkward max where you cover your ears up i'm just saying that's what i would be doing and he hates awkward interactions and i love oh yeah you gotta enjoy him oh i was i would have walked up and been like bet you hate me dude because he probably does which he has ever write to uh and then my other one is i've just um i'm thinking about doing a 72 hour fast no what you guys think about that like water fast yeah no i saw people it's like all the rage right now and i was like maybe i just do it no i don't know it does he did one recently i've kind of followed it but that's like he's like do you want to try it with me no maybe no i don't know what if we just 72 hours seems like a lot it's a lot but like if we're on a show after 54 hours of not eating maybe we can't be together people help me out let me know if i could do a 72 hour fast no no 48 hours yeah no you're gonna get all these freaks they're gonna be like oh you can do it i did i did a cleanse you have the cayenne pepper drink no it's uh you're not you're gonna be so angry by day too um my body just feels like it's breaking down i've had diarrhea for five days in a row if we're just being honest i'm on a diarrhea fast hanks not allowed to do the fast why not because breakfast breakfast oh yeah you get so angry you get so angry when you're when you're on i'm gonna try i'm gonna try i think eight o'clock on sunday night i'm gonna start i'm gonna go 48 hours 48 hours i think you could do like water and bone broth they say yeah i'm not even gonna do the bone broth i'm just gonna do water and black coffee 48 hours reset the whole system what do you mean reset the whole so what does that mean you know what i mean i don't know what people are like reset your system i'm like wait i'm just gonna put in the fast and put ice cream and shitty food back in your your system all right i don't like your judgment there i just don't know what i just don't know what the what the reset means it's like it's like i'm taking the cartridge i'm blown off is that what you do when you fall asleep at night though i don't sleep well so maybe this will help me sleep like you wake up in the morning and that that's the reset i don't know maybe it's just because i've been talking to men see too much recently about all his his colonoscopies and colon cleanses that he's been doing but apparently they pulled a bunch of a bunch of poop out of his oh i don't hear that so i'm gonna reset okay so but that's what he was saying was like they reset by like getting all the poop out of his butt i don't want to i'm not doing that i just want to i wanted that i want to i want to test myself can i stop my addiction to food for 48 hours probably not i think i did try this like 10 years ago i got i did the juice cleanse and i was eating i was eating uh uh sausages like like 16 hours in i think i was so hungry for me i think everybody's addicted to food yeah like quite literally all right well we'll see so some fast people let me know what i should do and and tell me how to safely do it um there's also a chance i could die in 48 hours i know everyone's like oh you could go the human body can go like 40 days without food not not this spot i actually don't think that's true yeah like every time i hear somebody say that i'm like no because after one day i want to i want to just end it all yeah if i don't have anything to eat i'm gonna reset the system all right yeah hit the reset button yeah all right zack finishes off um my favorite what sound guy said he has done adam sound guy said he's done a 72 hour fast and adam tell me let's go love this love this this adam who helped us with time zones on wednesday right um if you basically uh train your body already before if you go to keto it makes it easier nope but another thing is if you do it you have to use after that half the time to eat simple foods so so now it's like a whole week that i can't eat good food so if you do 48 hours you have to have a 24 hours of like just an egg just broth so your body bounces back or else you're gonna regret it i'm actually gonna disagree with you there i think i'm gonna do 48 hours then shock my system if you want to get some mcdonalds and just be like shock my system back i've also heard that you're like to break a fast you have to like have a meal of bone broth like it's the only one again i'm gonna take that i'm gonna take this under consideration i'm gonna throw it out but like that's the whole point of this fast what if i do a 48 hour fast and then i have mcdonalds it's like a you know like but like i don't know you just shouldn't do the fast okay oh there's some things i gotta also what is bone broth isn't that the same like chicken like broth is is bone broth right i don't know what's the difference i don't know like if i have chicken broth it's broth made from chicken bones if i had bone broth is that just a fancy name so they get charged double yeah probably probably okay well to be continued on the fast zack there there's a good chance they might just be just the same broth just double labeled yeah zack can you please do some research for me yeah on the fast definitely yeah before sunday okay yeah we fast i'm not gonna get into a fast education okay uh my purpose is a quick one uh it's kind of pivoted i don't know if we could should even all right it's just uh look we're there this is a beautiful weekend yeah i'm i'm i'm really like you know very grateful to be a part of it what a week boys we've had what a time it was my firefest was just going to be that like the sun's out you know it's hot and then i just can't deal with the smell of sunscreen anymore and i don't know how we haven't changed the smell of sunscreen i love the smell of sunscreen so it's in on the small sun yeah they need to cool down the sunscreen i would i would wear it i'm in i was in on i'm in on it at the pool i'm not in on it post pool like once you exit the vicinity of the water you still just smell like sunscreen and i'm just kind of confused on like how we haven't made any advances on this we're such a developed like globe i couldn't discreet more really what do you what do you want your sunscreen to smell like i don't know maybe that aloe vera maybe like uh what's what's the thing for headaches the purple uh lavender uh lavender i think myles cramps yeah lavender would be nice maybe some essential oils i think dude i think a long day in the sun and then getting out of the sun and smelling a little bit of like sunscreen awesome yeah but if we're being completely honest here my firefest is that is it this girl's on low you a lot of guys are saying it should be on medium and that there was no ice cream in this airbnb that's that's a true firefest going through my head right now they also make scented ice ice cream sunscreen or ice cream scented sunscreen are your your way ahead of the game in max never mind that's actually a great idea so i'll i'll retract my previous one oh i bet you they have chocolate ice or sunscreen do you think they had yeah yeah that could be fun they definitely have chocolate scented sunscreen do you think anybody makes sunscreen flavored ice cream doubtful yeah i'm gonna say no i bet somebody's tried that before zack you're gonna nail this yeah it'll work out i i shouldn't give any thought to the the the safety of the girl thing everyone preheats to grow i should have put it a little bit higher that girl's probably not the temp we want it to be at right now if this is a safe space but hopefully it'll be a little bit warmer you're gonna have a little dinner right now i can go bump it up yeah i can go bump it up yeah i i i knew it van luen made end of summer sunscreen scented ice cream oh yeah that's crazy that is nuts i'd try it it was last year yeah i have to try it i mean it's ice cream yeah you'd have to try it not on my fast though i'm gonna i i think you guys are doubting me which i don't know why i don't know why people reset the system it's to me when you do the fast stuff that's like uh that dude jack from twitter when he would like lock himself in a cave for a for a week and a half every year with just water just like because he was bored and he was like i want to feel something i just want to reset the system what if i reset everything what if my brain just your new man wakes yeah wakes up it's like oh dude you're just totally new guy what if you're so sick yeah it would be cool to like people talk about like a sense of clarity i think they're just their bodies are just excited that they're allowed to eat food again hey what if i what if i don't eat for 40 hours then i'm all of a sudden awesome at golf and like can flush a seven iron from 180 out that would be sick yeah so like what what's to lose i mean you'll never be able to do that what's to lose let's go all right jack you did it okay did you turn it up all right good show boys uh we'll be back in the studio should we do numbers again numbers yeah but you don't even want to get this no you don't it sucks to get this one 88 23 17 three adam 19 two 22 22 oh i don't guess 62 oh i thought you just guessed no oh i was gonna say 62 go ahead guess again uh 91 58 okay so there you go who got for birthdays was it march 27th oh no you're for sure this is my favorite this seems like so bad not all bad but it makes you look worse 50 yeah i don't care i'm glad i miss painting manning's birthday by the way fuck fuck that guy okay he's got enough people to suck his dick and wish him a happy birthday awful announcing quote that what yeah yeah i'm glad i miss painting manning's birthday i'll say with my chest i hope i do it again next year um happy birthday to check mark elijah more max okay happy birthday to elijah more who is that he's a wide receiver on the jet he was on the jet he's on the eagles he's on the eagles he's on the eagles you didn't know that wow wow wow you're wow you're so bad at birthdays max that's fair wow he's they got him to be like an emotional support wide receiver for a j brown they're like best friends didn't even know that max they got they hired a best friend for a j brown and you didn't know about it you're a bad friend bad friend bad partner all right well oh they sound him yesterday all right we'll see everyone back in studio sunday zack get on that girl love you guys have a birthday mariah caring for you love you guys no memes memes memes the birthday guy you know what that was that was such a horny i love it that was such a horny happy birthday love you guys uh