#628 - Tucker Carlson

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It's when pmi Philip Morris wrote me this letter or you were on a well-known Committees podcast and you said this about our product. I was like fuck you and started my own And it's been really successful. So grateful. So did they get upset about anything you said on the show on your show? Yeah Because they said it it was like a boner cure or whatever It's Viagra which it totally is you think nicotine helps your erection Yeah, oh, I don't I don't think it helps mine. You're not I think you're using enough I mean, I've got I've hit a you know hit a vape like I'm just you know like I'm keeping a train going you know It act like keeping like a amp track like I'm leading an amp track While you're actually In rate, but that's a beauty of a pouch you can double up during oh, I like that. I mean That's well, it's like a battery doctors recommend. I'm not yeah, nothing to do with me I'm still like using fire, you know, it's like if I'm sitting there just hoffing on a vape Kill in time also if you're not getting an erection you're trying to kill time until you get one That's the toughest thing that people never talk about about erectile dysfunction Really yeah, because you're like it's like waiting at the DMV kind of yeah Waiting for some lady to call you is that yeah, it's it's the same If it maybe it's that girl Bonnie blue. She's like never 49 or whatever Um, not ready Just give me a couple minutes no dude the lies. I would use that to make up because I had pretty bad erectile dysfunction Like in my 20s and the lies it up to make up Without getting too personal. How did you ever erectile this function in your 20s dude? I moved in with a guy Who was take number one right for sure that didn't help but that's because he had a uh He had a script of wiener pills and so I get over there So why I nibble off of his wiener pills and this is when wiener pills were really first pop When they were first out of the gate when people like you had to get prescription right now You can just do like telehealth now you can get some indian guy. Let us know you're back up, you know um And they have saffron on them. It's just sometimes it's kind of a lot but you take what you can get but um But dude I would stay over with him and he would uh and he didn't notice he would drink a lot So he didn't notice someone's I would like cut one and half or just take one You know, but so I was living with like a 70 year old dude just to cops part of his wiener pills script because he were a kept man Vagra kept you there But dude that was a crazy but I when I think back of the reality of that that was I fare even by LA standards. That's pretty far out. Yeah, usually you move in with a sugar daddy for like the cocaine or something But you're for the boner pills But can I ask how do you how do you think you wanted to knead him in the first place at that age? Just too much a mental too much in my head, you know Like I would try to be getting a bone or whatever and my brain would be like you got a little bone or bitch or whatever Like my brain did not like me, you know So and we had to and we lived together and so it was like a constant battle But then I think as I've gotten older and gotten more calm It's been easier. It's just been more calm That's so that's so interesting. So you were like trying to defeat yourself Yes, I would be like uh or if I couldn't get it started it was just like man, you know So then you're killing time like hey, you know, it's like You want to watch a pro you know, it's like let's put on a mood, you know, just like trying to kill time while you're waiting to get a boner. It's very You know, you're it's a that's a Tough gig that should be an Olympic sport. I think like the by Athalon. Yeah, it's weird But there are a few people the world really good at it really yeah, well by Athalon for sure I don't know bone or waiting by Athalon is the cross country Right, I don't think it's quite it's not actually certified yet But no bath on is the cross country skiing and then shooting oh Yeah, I have seen that that's pretty fun Well, it's wild because these guys are just like huffing, you know imagine Being oxygen deprived and then trying to shoot straight or do anything really oh it look This is the skill. We're all gonna need probably in a few years if we want to survive so I think that this this is very important Um, but does Alp so Alp is your brand Alp is our brand we started it because of your show Because the first and only other time I've been here We're in some other city. We're in Belagio. We're in the blogger. It's right sorry Uh, and I had it and you said what's that and I made a joke about how it was a marital aid or something Not even a funny joke and then About a week later. I got a letter from the general counsel's office at Philip Morrison or national ones owns Zen and they said you know how dare you make unsubstantial medical claims about our product And I was like first of all I'm shilling your product just to be night because I like it And now you're scolding me for making a boner joke Which by the way was a compliment yeah if somebody's in and then there suddenly they got that doll and go and who cares You know what I'm saying? I thought it was funny I thought it was a compliment and but they were so corporate and nasty with me Yeah, that I decided I'm gonna make a competing product and we did and then around that time probably about a week or two later I asked around I never really asked anything about Zen and I found out that almost every other person using Zen was using it Recktally I literally had no idea they were using it what they were rectally Yeah, they use it rectally most Zen users use it rectally and I didn't know that What where at like cap like five cap is or whatever? No, no, no, just normal consumers of it Like in fact in a lot of places when you buy it you get a little tube of I don't know if you were bought it Be it a little tube of ass lean and some surgical gloves No, I'm serious and I had no idea And I was like in a country of 350 million people like there should be a pouch For your mouth. Yeah, you know, it shouldn't all be rectal use and by the way I'm not in any way judging at all. I think it's consistent with like other parts of their lives But but whatever I was like this country needs an oral use only pouch Yeah, yeah, so we made one and so you guys made one yeah But I didn't know any of that and I'm like hapless you know I'm putting in my mouth and occasionally people look at me like on a plane or whatever I put it my mouth and they would give me that look like that's not what you're supposed to do with that But I didn't even know I didn't have any reference points for it And but you know you you learn stuff as you age yeah If you're using that third jaw I think to catch a to catch a nicotine hit that's pretty wild The problem is you can you can overdo it and you forget it's hard to keep track of how many are there Oh, yeah, you can just a lot of things can't I've never done it But I have talked to people who are in oh it'll build up like a beaver dam back there. I feel like Tucker good to see you man Here we are we've already discussed a rectal dysfunction which I admitted I had which is definitely never Is gonna help my dating life, but here we are no I think it makes you more More relatable less threatening. I bet you get a lot of calls after this actually Well, I will say this though if you took an erection pill say you went on a date or something It was going pretty well and you took part of are you nibbled off a little piece because do not make the mistake of taking a hole when you're What happened dude? I couldn't even hug somebody goodbye I was like You know like you like in seventh grade again. Oh, yeah, calves were stopping. It was like you're like what do you want? You know So that was that was in good dude like that was Yeah, you take a hole when dude Uh, yeah, people will start hanging their coats on you and stuff It's really it can be a lot But yeah, you would just nibble off enough you started to gauge how much you needed you nibble off I feel like you could become dependent on it though. Oh, you definitely did But at a certain point it like alleviated like the fear of like of this of uh Kind of of the it alleviated the fear you're performing so excited right it kind of like so then after while you didn't need it all the time So it kind of um helpful. Yeah, it was kind of like training wheels in a way type of thing you know saying Totally yeah, like you use it and then you don't need it um But yeah, dude, that was a weird time dude. I one time I was over there and uh So the dude like we only had we only had one bedroom So I would just sleep on the couch right You should have some more to the story. There's nothing more. Okay, so an older man moves you into his house and gives you boner pills But it's totally on the level like there was nothing weird at all my friends dad Okay, okay, okay, it's okay My friends dad and I think he'd like cheat on his wife or something so he got kicked out Yeah, and so and I was looking for a place to live Anyway, I used to go like I was learning the guitar at the time and so He would have this lady stay over sometimes and he would have me come in there playing music to him in the dark and sit Just learn how to play um tears in heaven Just again to stand back and with you know with No prior knowledge of the story at all, but just to like assess the faxes you played them out You get invited to live with an older man. Yeah, and a girl. He was athletic. He played tennis. Yeah Yeah, yeah for sure who has this dash of boner pills and then he invites you into the bedroom with him and the girl Discerinate them. Yes at night kind of and this never got freaky at all like not for once. Hey, you're like this totally normal Yeah, not at all It was weird enough. It's the most LA story ever it happened in Louisiana Oh, no way I'm saying you were like Kato Kaelin in the guesthouse This happening down down New Orleans dude and I used to borrow his car It wouldn't turn off if you turned it off you couldn't turn it back on So you had to leave it running all the time and you had to like put gas into it So I'd go to I'd use this car to go to school over there over there at Loyola and I would just leave it run I would just like leave it running all day Ah Anyway Tucker Carlson good to see you man great to see you great to see you congrats on Alp is a cut is it doing well? I remember I went to y'all's party last year. Yeah, and there was a lot of neat neat people there. Yeah Josh Smith was there I remember Lexi was there Mel Gibson was there last year did he come? Yeah, that was really nice. So he's a great guy He's a great guy and there are a lot of people yeah, no, it's actually done Jimmy John was there love Jimmy John Lee at one of my favorites Vince Vaughan all you know good guys people who like nicotine nicotine super important This country's gotten far sadder and less healthy since it was discouraged and And it's coming back and I think I think it shows like people are just happier But no the cut the company's done So I've never been in business. I've never sold anything. I've only talked for a living I didn't grow up around business. I know nothing about it. I'm terrible at math So yeah, it's done really well so well that I'm I feel a little bit embarrassed But um what's that we have a big factory near here? 14 manufacturing lines and it's like it's cool. Wow. I like it. Yeah It's actually been the single most amusing and purely fun thing I've ever done of course. I have no role in like the business you right never allow me near a business ever But I'm super enthusiastic. I help pick the name and the design and the flavors like I know a lot about that because I'm all life long nicotine New's are over 40 years I know a lot about nicotine but I don't know nothing of business. So I'm not involved in any of that my college roommate runs it and is You know my best friend so I But I hear about it, but basically yeah, it's been wildly successful because I think people Want to pouch that you can put in your mouth you don't have to put it in your butt and a lot of people felt like they did There's just a lot of pressure to do that and you feel it all around you like Oh, it's totally cool. All the guys are doing it and some some people are like I'm not gonna do that Yeah, and I don't want to have to go to like a t-esto or a John Summeter Elevity concert or have to go to like a Wisefried panic concert to get somebody to boof it into my straw or something it's like how do you even get help getting it in if you need help? Well, I think that's part of it. I think if for a lot of people's in as a group activity like it happens You know with like friends, yeah, but and that's fun Totally I can't believe that was a song I played and that's what they made me play dude Would you know? That's the only one you were serenading the boner pill guy in his girlfriend Yeah, what do you think I would play only knew that in every rose as it's thorn come on Those are like two of the beginner songs man. Wow. I was pretty good I think it would be like brown-eyed girl or something older guy. Oh definitely well brown-eyed girl definitely if you're using one of those Those pouches you're talking about You know, but that's like kind of a classic Boomer kicked out of the house with his younger girlfriend play brown-eyed girl, you know, it's kind of oh yeah I thought brown-eyed girl is something dealing with somebody's butt, you know Hey, where do we go? Oh days when the when the rains came when the rains came down in the hollow playing a new So good playing a new game You know I was I so BLM homie Tucker Carlson's here dude. Did you just I just saw you got a top 10 podcast one of the top 10 podcasts in America Did you see really no I didn't I didn't did you see that really yeah, I honestly didn't know that no It's we have a rule in our office, so it's we've stuck with for like Like 30 over 30 years now. Do wherever I've worked like no compliments Don't believe in that so you don't ever want to work with people who compliment you At all and you know when that's hitting and you can feel when you're doing what you're supposed to be doing But having people around you're like over kicking ass. You're so great. Yeah, like that's the fastest way to rot your soul And just to become an asshole and having spent my life around assholes. I'm like Don't want to be that so no, no, there's never any talk about that ever Well, but I'm glad to know that it's better than being in the bifes certainly a bit in the bottom Many times in my life. Yeah, I mean I had ratings that were so bad at one network I worked at that there was some questions to whether given the margin of error anyone was watching Like anyone any human being was actually watching yeah, like Nielsen couldn't tell you really with precision right so weapon there Dang Yeah, well now you're not there anymore. I mean it is fascinating Especially to hear how quickly people have gone away from cable Do you have cable? I don't even know if I have it right I mean most I watch sports and then I'll just work a lot Totally and there's just a lot of stuff like you can spend your life texting How many people do you text with every day? Oh, right too much. Yeah, exactly But yeah, you wanted you were at top 10 men So pretty cool and you were you also got anti-Semite of the year. You know you got did I win? No I don't you also got nominated for anti-Semite of the year Bryce missile this campaigning and feels like so He is I love Bryce. I know he was there his son's name talker by the way His son is so cute to some believe did I see his son of your party last year? Yes. Yes, and his wonderful wife. Yeah The funny thing is I'm not even an anti-Semite and I'm how did that be anti-Semitism? I agree how did that even like Every day for the last 10 years I don't think I think it is immoral to judge people on qualities. They can't control what they're born with I don't think that people are guilty by virtue of their blood That's why I disagree with the Netanyahu cabinet They believe the Palestinians are subhuman because they're Palestinian and I just that's a attitude that's anti-Christian I totally reject it. I've criticized them for that specifically And so I completely opposed to anti-Semitism and so and I mean it too and by the way if I was an anti-Semite at this stage I'd be like yeah, I'm an anti-Semite love handler. I would just say it like why not? I probably the number one podcast It did but I'm being totally sincere. I'm opposed to it. So why do they keep calling you that? Me that and I know one of these guys very well in here said I know brace but I Know another person on the bottom. I know two of them. I know Anna too They're not only or not anti-Semites. They think anti-Semitism is immoral. So why do they call you something that you're not and that they know you're not they do it To make you into what they call you they're trying to make you a hater And that is like the key incident I've had over the last year. It's like I used to think like people always call me racist and I would do these like long monologues but actually Not a racist I would say so if I was I kind of like black people But it's not even has nothing to do with what I like Jersey's or whatever I kind to do but even if I didn't Hating people in the basic racism or on so I do these like long monologues and I would stay up and write them you know at home and be like I'm gonna tell the truth and Everyone be like shut up racist and I'd be like what is this? They could criticize me for all my real faults which are super obvious, you know Um, I think they're very obvious. I get mad at overstate things. I always gain a shit ton of weight every summer Like I have faults that are obvious to everybody But they never attack me on those they attack me on the things that I'm not why And this year I finally figured it out. It's like they want to make you Into a hater Why two reasons one to control you This is like a form of control. Well because then they can label you sure then you're a Nazi It's like you don't need to firstly you can kill Nazis right so it's obviously to get you killed is part of it But part of it is much deeper and it's spiritual and that is that evil feats on hate they want more hate to And what's evil? How do we know if something's evil? Well, by its fruits is this someone who's lying angry promoting violence chaos division That's evil. I mean that's literally the definition of evil and good is its opposite its unity peace happiness love order Cleanliness or whatever, you know, it's it's the virtues are really obvious the sins are really obvious And so evil Feeds on hate they want more hate so I look at someone like Markle of Inn who was a guy used to know You know what I'm not a strong feelings about the guy one of the areas all into Israel whatever. I don't care Be all in to Israel. I was never against Israel. I'm still not really that against Israel But whatever I watch Markle of Inn like go down this path where he's like crazed he's crazed It's almost like he's being attacked by bees or something like there's no peace in that man at all I can't imagine what it's I'm not being mean. I'm being sincere That guy works tirelessly to make people hate him Same with Rabbi but plug same with a bunch of these people you see on the internet where it's like what is this guy trying to win people over Just the opposite he's trying to alienate them He's trying to make people hate him why Because that's the nature of evil it feeds on hate and goodness feeds on love and you're around if you're around a decent honest person You just feel this like warmth and attraction and calm right you feel this around for sure And I think it gives a trust you're unguiding light it. It's sort of going 100 at every point Of what is every point good and what is not you but you know it. I don't even think Like we're so past rational argument. I mean, I've proven that by like every week doodifully doing the Actually, I'm against anti-semitism my hate anti-semitism shut up Hitler Obviously, we're not at a point sadly in our history. We're rational debate makes any difference at all They don't care. Yeah, Charlie Kirk dead kids life to it. They just shot him in the neck like they don't they're not interested Winnable We're at a stage where the only thing you can trust is the is God the love of other people in your own God-given instincts like that is it that's the guide period Yeah, I mean your pilot light of what you have to really lock in all your pilot light of what do you feel like is right and wrong exactly Don't you think you know it too? I think at this point you have to trust that more than ever. It's a trusted right exactly But but the knowledge is pre-existent like it's already in you You know you're like your dog doesn't need to be told who hates him the dogs like no He barks at the people of hate him. He knows and he doesn't lie to himself. Yeah, do you feel that? Oh, I think We've been lying ourselves or we've been passive about evil showing up in our world. I think yes I definitely believe that um and some of the things I want to talk about for sure. I mean, I saw this list and I'm like well first of all um Miss Rachel's on it. That's when they lost and I was like what are you guys doing if miss Rachel has to come out Because she was obviously anti the war and Gaza anti the genocide um and we've spoken up about it I mean there's no doubt in my heart in mind that it's a genocide people can have other thoughts that they want And that's fine. I if you have your thoughts. That's great. I'm glad that you do um, it just seems like that is a wrong thing. There was not a lot of question about it for me Like I learned about the history of the land and then I was like this. Well, this is just wrong There's no reason that these Children have to be getting killed that that they're experimenting with different weapons and different tactics On this kind of like Basically these this Imprison group over there Um, and then when they when I saw this in Emma's Rachel, I was like what are we doing like Would you need Bert and Ernie to come out and say that it's a genocide like at what point do people not trust? What they're seeing anymore? I think I'm kind of a made that that that's the part that's made me think sometimes like I'm in This weird blender or aquarium. It's like yeah It's like Should more people speak up have not and like It almost like why do you feel crazy for speaking up like it just should feel like there's more But then it's not my place to think that somebody else should feel the same way or should feel okay about sharing stuff Um, and it gets kind of scary, you know, it definitely gets super scary, you know um I think because You know, I think you don't know the you don't really know what's going on I think that's what it is and if they would just say hey America's a country that's owned by Israel or that um, it's always been just this uh Outpost or it's this LLC of Israel or it's this or of this or maybe not even of Israel it could just be of um Corporate entities. I'm not really sure exactly But if they would just tell us then you can operate from a place of knowing what's going on But for some reason there's this weird secretiveness about stuff and when things are secret It feels evil because it feels like it's in the dark, right? um and then when you see Like we're watching people dying and kids dying and it's supposed to feel like it's Just in with the next real and the next trend dance or whatever. It's just it all becomes um It all becomes confusing and so those are moments where you do have to lock in you know just uh Prayer asking God. What am I supposed to do just trusting like the part inside of yourself that uh you feel like you've developed over time that's That's That's honest. I guess they're just trying to trust your heart, you know, I don't know. Does it make any sense even? Does not only does it make sense? It's so beautifully expressed. Yes, it makes perfect sense And I think a lot of people watch I'll speak for myself I've been brooding on this because my whole job is to try and find out what's happening and then explain it And it's just an endless series of frustrating cul-de-sax where you're like Why can't we know this that the other thing? I mean whatever the story is and in the last two weeks I feel like I've gotten closer to understanding what's actually going on And of course I could be completely wrong, but I'm not and um it's made me so much happier Because the conclusion I've sort of like go of a lot of My frustration and fear Because I've realized that we already know exactly what this is No, I don't know a lot of the details, you know, could be wrong about this or that, you know But big picture we know exactly what's going on And I think at this point that if all the information on all these different threads whatever it is especially the murders Not just the recent murders, but the or attempted murders, but the um you know the more historical ones If all the relevant information came out tomorrow, would we be surprised? Yeah, we wouldn't we we know what's up actually and There's enough evidence, but also our instincts tell us just by watching like what is this And I agree with you completely. It's not just about Israel this country. It's about Whether or not self-government actually exists like to any of these countries have a system where the people decide who their leaders are And what the country should do collectively Not really Or it's more complex than that. Yes, I think elections are to some extent real and all that But in the end the big decisions are made not by nations or Kings or presidents or whatever we imagine they're made by You know the world's richest people and I know I don't think that's an ethnic group. It's not code language for the Jews It's it's what it seems to be it's the people with the biggest stake in this We have the most to gain and the most to lose or never gonna leave the big decisions to like Three zip codes in Pennsylvania like come on now come on now. Yeah, come on son like you know that that's true And I'm not saying by the way, I'm not claiming you know the Elections are totally rigged or whatever the source code belongs to Maduro I'm not making any specific claims like that because I don't know if they're true or not But I know that big picture We know that Kennedy was pushing up against some forbidden things and that's why he was killed and who killed him Well, it's not it's too easy to say it was this group or that group or this group It was all those groups acting in concert or parts of those groups acting in concert Of course, that's all of what this is right Do you feel that I I like what you said about If all the pieces came out would you be that surprised like if they laid the cards Lee out Epstein for example, you know the one that everyone's right. I feel like that whole thing is some sort of I think there's some there's definitely stuff there But then also it's been such a kickball and a ruse for so long It's like both political parties had a chance to put it out or to get none of these people are operating on our behalf That's what it feels like well, that's kind of the truth that I'm talking about that's what we would learn That's what scary it feels like came out if we had it feels like Well so many of us believe and have believed and have forefathers that have Spilt their blood and risk their lives and and have friends who are enlisted now To protect this thing that I feel like we This idea of America. Yes, and then That idea has gotten super blurry in the past few years and especially at a time when I think a lot of people like There's a lot of fears with like technology in the future and not knowing Like where we're going to find our sense of purpose right that's a big thing that we talk about on this show a lot over time is like You know, where where do you find your sense of purpose and people find a lot of times in their job Through their family and their country through their Religion through their faith so You know some of those start to go away and some of those even look blurrier for the future almost like it's like Marty McFly when he looks at that picture and it looks like He doesn't even exist You know, and so it starts to make you think like You know if if more of our purpose disappears and Our traditions are challenged by media over the years that they're not that they're wrong or they're racist or they're this or they're that Then you kind of end up with just I don't know it makes you feel like well, what do I end up even what even is the value of me at a certain point? I have the answer. I have the answer Okay, and I don't also want to sound too dower like I'm also looking at it from that perspective Speaking for millions of people when you say this like everyone can feel I think People feel exactly what you're saying and I still also feel like it's a lot of moments of hope of like you know Like okay, so I focus on my family. I focus on my friends. I focus on Doing something nice for someone. I focus on somebody else other than myself You know, I do those things that do give you feelings of meaning and purpose right? So anyway, I'm not trying to be like a Debbie downer, but go on I think just the opposite and by the way I just want to amplify what you just said because that is the answer and then those aren't just feelings of meaning and purpose That's the definition of meaning and purpose is to love the people around you Not people you've never met not abstract concepts communism fascism shineism whatever your Your ideology is no, it's people That's what it means to live a meaningful life is to serve other people and by other people I mean people who are physically present who are connected to you in Organic ways like your relatives your friends your co-workers your roommates The people God puts in your path those are the people you love your waitress Like that's that's what it really means to love people. So that's number one always love the people around you And whenever I run into people like I just want to save the world Or I'm gonna come up with a new system to make everyone happy forever And we're gonna call it whatever we're calling it. Yeah, I or ketamine Ketamine yeah, and that's bailing out there. There's people falling asleep at the car wash They just had a guy he fell asleep in there. Yeah. Well those of us who've already been down the drug path They're all skeptical of being saved by drugs. Oh for sure But it's also dangerous those brush some of those brushes are sharp in there Like I fucking fell asleep in that car wash He was in for two cycles. Yeah, that is sedan that went through and finally someone in the backseat saw him on the side That dude was in there getting polished up When he was a ketamine ketamine. Yeah, he was ketamine up. He was all K'd out. 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We have no control Right and and all this shit all these systems that we've created and cherished and believed in and died for as you said We're all in some sense Lusory they were fake because they gave us the false impression that we have control whether it's over a government or the future or whatever We don't have any control we do we are on a commercial airliner in a thunderstorm Okay, that's just what it is and if you're in 17b you have no control over whether the plane land safely or crashes. You just don't you have no control We have to metabolize that like so they can accept that and once you do there's total freedom in that They actually can't Protect myself really Is as we say in my family are like family motto is there is no safety. There's only destiny There is no safety. There's only destiny and that's like The deepest truth of life like we're not the authors of our lives We can't really control that much about them except a couple of things Do we love the people around us and do we tell the truth and if you want to prepare yourself for the turmoil That's only going to accelerate this is all obvious all of us can feel the reason we're also Freaking anxious is we can feel that this is the prelude to like real turbulence like every person Dogs can feel a thunderstorm coming three hours out. We can feel that. Oh, yeah You'll see your neighbors doing circles. Oh 100% dude. Yeah, and that's exactly We are the German Shepherd starting to freak out in the backyard because the weather's coming and we can't see it But they can feel it and we can all feel that so how do you protect yourself? Obviously by gold stash ammo I believe in all that But really what you need to do is make yourself strong inside By collecting your people close to you staying in close touch them and telling the truth because telling the truth gives you Spiritual power the more you tell the truth the more you are filled with supernatural power you become Invulnerable to extend a human being can be I'm telling the truth And I don't care if you kill me. I really don't care Because what I'm saying is real and it will outlive me If you get into that habit the exercise of just being honest As much as you can be of course you're a human beings you lie all the fucking time because you can help it But if you keep doing that you'll be filled with a spiritual power that is stronger than any other power Do you believe that our country is compromised? Do I believe it's compromised? Oh, yeah, yeah, I do Um, do you believe that it's reversible? You know, I believe so I mean again, I'm so old. I'm 56. So like I just grew up believing in everything You know, we're younger than Leanne Morgan We just had her in here really have you ever listen her? No, oh my god, I'm old No, she's great dude both you guys look great That's really she's older than I am yeah, she told me she was unless she was lying. I don't believe her There's that new thing a lot of women do that they pretend to be a lot older That's like the true Jedi move for a woman to be like actually I'm 61 like a conventional woman always be like actually I'm 29 but the really smart ones would be like I'm almost 70. Yes That's how they do it. I guess right. She's a wonderful beautiful comedian and she's hilarious But anyway, she was a senior but she's 60 years old both the other she uses nicotine great. I bet she does She did smoke she said in college. Yes. She looked what it did for her and she wears tight bras because she says it keeps her awake So I love her but um, well But yeah, do you think it's worth like and I guess that's a big question and also going back to what you said a little bit ago Like you said But then I look at the history of time and it's like People have always been under the thumb of some type of rule having that and so for us to be like I mean, it's weird. It's like part of you. It's like you're supposed don't be a baby about it You know like you're just being like there's some sort of oppression and even as people that can feed themselves We're not as oppressed as so many other people or people that if they turn the light they're afraid it's gonna activate a bomb in the corner of their room I did know with the guy works for us last night Literally last night and he has it where are you where are you born? Because I was born in Eritrea, but I grew up in a Sudanese refugee camp I can't believe that it states He's an amazing guy in a wonderful wonderful guy But I was like gosh, you know, I'm really I'm from loohia Right Stop winding dude. This is my internal dialogue stop winding stop winding. I had to fight Southwest yesterday. Oh no one's something more than me Um, yeah loohia But loohia is for sure the lap of luxury of America. Oh, yeah, and almost every single childhood friend of mine was totally destroyed Really not all but most oh for sure just by the uh drugs wow drugs yeah good drugs too. Oh the best They didn't put they did not put baby laxative in our cocaine growing up. Oh no, no, no that was a ghetto thing Yeah, no, no, we had it was almost blue We had a wear diapers that it had so much baby laxative it came with diapers It came with fucking hoggies, bro. That's it Is some stuff we bought some time I grew up in a But anyway, the point is um right the point is though that we've always been some sort of like there's always been a rule There's always been something like that. I think that but the older you are the satirid is to see your illusion shattered And the harder it is to pivot so if you talk to people who are like 23 and you're like I think the moon landing's fake. They're like yeah, Gramps. It was always fake like what are you talking about? Who the fuck was real look at the video one time exactly So that's a Someone one a friend of mine who's unfortunately gone insane, but was a genius called James Carville One said me yes Carville from the Democratic Party from Louisiana. Oh, he lives in New Orleans. Oh, yeah No, I know I'm well and he he's gone crazy in whatever But he really was in his prime like a genius and someone I listened to very carefully. Yeah, he once said to me I'm never forget we're in a restaurant some foreign country You know people misunderstand the theory of evolution and I was like I can't do this except but he'd be like Survival of the fittest that's bullshit. That's not what he was saying and I said well, what was he saying? So It's survival over the most flexible. It's adaptability And he had this whole incredible rap about Strength is not actually the quality that helps you persevere in the face of change its Flexibility the ability to pivot with changes that you can't yeah, it's not the mass is the sale exactly And in fact Strength can be a feature of rigidity can be a feature of strength like your your window pain as strong as hell It'll last 200 years, but if you tap or it'll just shatter No, you need to be able to move with The moment that you live in and so I feel like young people are in a pretty good spot But yes for older people It's hard to it's very upsetting. I'm sure you feel it you're much younger than I but you still feel it like oh my gosh I thought this was real and it's not and it's like heartbreaking. It's crushing I see it a lot in like just my probably my mother and things like that see their disappointment kind of yes Or just uncertainty about what's going on and they love the country so much. Yeah, it's real. It's sincere love too That's the thing. I mean, it's like it's something that's beautiful that you felt like was a certain way And now maybe some ethnicities and cultures didn't feel like it was that way And so sometimes I can understand that there's different points of view there But I still believe that the idea of America and what it's been um And that it's goals and that the humans that want it to be that are That it's altruistic, you know, that hundred percent but that you start to realize oh that these powers above us They're they have something different going on in that um They you would think that they would I guess they would just won't tell us, you know And so I think that's where some some of my fear is it's just like well evil thrives in darkness There's no doubt about that yet. It's like what does it mean To be part of something moving forward. What does that thing even look like like if I'm a citizen here now What is in five years? What is what am I a citizen of if I am a citizen of a country that does genocide to my citizen You know who am I you know like I think I was watching some of the Gaza stuff and I kept thinking like well Surely America will come in at some point and help right stop this right that was like my thought um Especially since we're not when you say genocide you're not guessing. It's not like some Propaganda term. It's the definition and we know that not just from the video of its victims But from the testimony of the people perpetrating it Members of the current government hot cabinet secretaries in the current Israeli government are on tape including this week saying We kill them because of how they were born. There's a few oh my yeah Like what's in a smotress smotridge Ben Giver. Oh many look we need to Exget them out. Let me see. These are people are born there. I was gonna see if that's insane. It is Because look people you know you often hear apologist for what's happening there for the atrocities say well Look, it's war people die. Okay. One of the reasons I'm not that enthusiastic about war because innocent's die We always have to oppose The murder of innocence or else we are not civilized. What is civilization? We're on the good side. We're civilized There are savages there are a lot of savages in this world. I know some And what separates the savage from the civilized person is the civilized person will never accept the murder of innocence You didn't do anything wrong. We can't kill you. It's that simple Well, it just I don't like it's if it's unfair But that's the definition of unfair you didn't do anything a child didn't do anything. Yeah Or an unarmed woman did not deserve to be murdered and who is this that's supposed to get that's the finance minister of Israel The truth is into the last hostage returns We shouldn't even give water to the Gaza Strait For a year and a half we've been beating the hell out of Hamas We're breaking Gaza apart leaving it as a pile of rubble With total unprecedented destruction in the world and the world still hasn't stopped us The aim is to achieve the one and only required outcome The conquest of Gaza the annihilation of Hamas And a return of all the hostages in one word victory So that's their view on it right there, you know, he's saying We're killing people and leveling the country in order to move the population out So how is that different from saying there's certain people in my capital city I don't want here. I'm gonna put them on trains and move the east There's there's no difference people are being killed And expelled from the place where they were born because of their bloodline. Yeah that In the world that I grew up in which is the United States of America The main lesson the lesson of World War II the reason we fought against fascism was we reject that Yeah, that's okay We do not kill people or expel them or put them on trains or put them in internment camps or move them to quote third countries as Smotrasha said because of how they were born exactly because of their bloodline because we don't accept that because we're Christians We think that every person was created as an individual and judged as an individual period and this to me Don't believe in the shit. That's the enemy of civilization right there These railings to be clear and not the only people who think this way plenty of people think this way But we are better than all of them because we don't think this way and all of a sudden you've got People in the United States current United States government you've got people in our media class They're all defending this because they agree with it and then you see people jumping up and being like Muscle shouldn't have jobs in the United States and it's like or in the US government It's like how is that better than saying Jews shouldn't have jobs or Christians or Buddhist It's all the same that kind of thinking is genocidal it leads to the genocide We're watching right now on Gauss and to many other genocides for the fifth time. It's not just Israel. It does this okay But this is what we're fighting against this is why we're better. Why are we better because we have more But and better shopping or because we have you know mount chasta and key west. No, it's some moral compass exactly And we're able to also take care of ourselves at the same time, I think but our moral compass is what it's based on What's the north what's north that our moral compass? We don't kill innocents And yes, we have and we regret it and we grieve over because it's wrong That's our moral compass right there if you didn't do anything wrong We don't get to kill you or expel you from your home because you're innocent because we believe in justice also called fairness That's the whole fucking point of this country And so when I see people arguing against that are calling me and Nazi when they're literally wholesale adopting them Nazi mindset I just might but then I think you know what I'm not mad. This is the state of play In life, it's always been this way and my job is what to love the people around me And to tell the truth no matter what and I think that's freeing yeah Well, I think I do think once you say like yeah if I get to a point where I can just Share what I think or what I feel whether I'm right or wrong. Yes, if I can speak up from my feelings But then also if you look at our history we kind of America was did that to other people when it started yes And you would think that we'd learn that it was wrong and that's where we are now Well, we've acknowledged that it's wrong. I think I mean look There's a you can acknowledge something is wrong without You know, I'm not kind of flagellating to the point where you're incapable of like going forward Which is the problem it's like you can't do it to the point where you're incapable of going forward like oh well We also this this mistake was made not by us this made mistake was made by people in the past or at that time Who believed that colonialism was fine? And that was a different people were playing by a different set of rules If America is that we have like standards of Decentcy fairness. I love the use that work because that is the core of it It's fairness justice is overused fairness is underused is just a child knows what's fair If his brother's getting three Oreos and he's getting one that's just unfair He doesn't have a degree in economics. He just feels it. He knows it the sense of fairness is innate dogs have it Because it's part of the natural fabric. It's organic and We're a fair country and the rich man gets the same treatment and the justice system as the poor man It doesn't matter where you're from you're both citizens and you're both equal because you're both created by God That's our whole system in one sentence and that is being eroded because the people who run our system But agree with smote rich and every other third world dictator These people are damned by their birth whatever they are that's what affirmative action is it's like no I don't like the way your parents look. You don't get the job What that's what we hated about the Nazis what we hated about segregation which I want to say was evil Segregation was evil why because it punished some people and rewarded others on the basis of things they couldn't control their skin color Yeah, and we'd had mixed babies a lot sooner too, which are pretty cute a lot of them To be honest with you other effects, but like the Fairness is what we need to preserve why is Epstein infuriating because it's unfair That's why not because he molested kids or his buddies molested kids It's because the president of Harvard was involved in Alan Dersh with all these famous people Prince retard whatever the guy in Great Britain that kind of retarded looking prince The most guy is Bill Gates All the most powerful people in the world got away with it And there's tons of child molestation in America But there's expectation that they'll be punished for doing it these people we know in our hearts will never be punished because they're rich But we don't know that's unfair. We don't know for sure that they molested children now We don't we don't know for sure But we know that there's never been a real inquiry into it because the people around it were powerful and rich that we can say for sure and that's still happening Okay, well that'll say is that yeah There's obvious that there's not of it feels like there's a unfair investigation that's or or a lack of investigation or it's just this Lie that keeps getting remodeled. It's this clay of a lie that keeps getting remodeled and put into the museum in front of us all the time But go to all your neighbors on the street and ask them Oh everybody thinks something happens no, but ask them like if you if your name popped up as like a visitor to pedo island eleven times Do you think you would like be protected in the way that all these other people have been protected? Of course not you have no money in power You'd be oh Pass I think if anybody had one I don't know but I don't know anything. That's just allegedly So I have to pee really fast good. I'm gonna go to you are can we go together like women? No good. I like your attitude. No Anyway, we just took a pee break guys who are back Why do you think that you made the anti-Semite list? I? Think because I'm not an anti-Semite Right, and I get what you're saying. It's like if they don't a bit of mean I'm literally not an anti-Semite and I reject anti-Semitism as totally immoral and anti-Christian So I'm not only not by temperament an anti-Semite You know, many Jewish people I love I also reject it as a way of thinking yeah And so why would they call me that and it's sincere again for the fifth time if I was I would just say so Um, and I'm not so why do they call me that well because I think they think I'm effective because I'm not a hater Right, so they have to take out the guy who actually might change people's minds But I think it's deeper than that. I think there's a spiritual dimension where they want me to become an anti-Semite and a hater Both so they can control and dismiss me. Oh, he's a Nazi. He's David Duke or whatever. He's crazy But also because some of the people pushing this are evil and by evil I mean specifically They are committed to lying and violence Those are the hallmarks of evil lying and violence and chaos and division So they're not going to play by any other rules This is not so we're not in a we're not where we used to be or we used to pretend we were we all thought we were playing by the same rules Right, and the rules were if you have a better argument than I have then you win Yeah, and made the best argument win So far beyond that and I think the murder of Charlie Kirk was the moment when we could just admit it to ourselves This is a guy whose whole life revolved around the proposition. Let's let's debate And they didn't want to debate whoever they is they murdered him and and to be specific who killed Charlie Kirk? Well I don't know Is the short answer, but I when we do find out if we ever do that we will but if we do I think well again Will not be surprised It's just all tentacles from the same octopus and the octopus is evil Right, it's not an ethnic group. It's not a country. It's evil. This is what evil is what is evil? Evil is a commitment to deception and violence period. That's what it is So it's too easy be like oh it's Netanyahu or Smotrature whatever no, it's evil. It's existed from the beginning of time It will exist until the end of time and it has been the thing against which people have fought Through all of history. It's evil it manifests itself in a million different ways, but its hallmarks are always dishonesty and violence It feels like we've been a bit afraid to stand up against evil Does that make sense to you? Of course it does John Rich was just talking about it on your podcast the other day and I thought that that was a really neat episode wonderful And I learned a lot about John Rich and just like his clarity of thought. I thought was really neat We're on a hunting trip and a feson hunting trip two weeks ago when we did that You can shoot too, which is nice. Kenny. He can. He was bringing him down. We had a lot of hits. I know but that yeah, but We shouldn't be afraid of it and we shouldn't be so my struggle is against being shocked Like every time I learn something I'm like holy shit. I can't believe I'm so I can't believe it Like this or that institution's corrupt or this or that person is lying and it's like the I'm actually like a child. Why would I be shocked? That's what this is. What did you think it was, dude? We live in a fallen world filled with dishonesty and violence my job All of our jobs are to fight against those things Yeah, people always want to be in a war people always like man I wish had something that was like a challenge in the world It's like we're in we're in a fight of good and evil And it's not to say that any of us are perfect or that we don't all have mistakes or things if we wish we had done or not done But overall it does feel like This is like a video game of good versus evil and you have to start to see that like You're a player in it One thing that this is why you're so effective. This is why You know at some point people may try to make you be quiet Is because you approach all of this with humility Which is one of the hallmarks of good in my opinion like almost every sentence you begin on this topic begins with I'm no one to judge and I'm not you know That is the posture humility is the posture and one thing you notice about evil is its certainty is its Judgmental condemnatory quality You know mark live in your evil your fascist. I said I might not see as long as to whatever It's mirror images what you just showed which is you know, we're all kind of screwed up But we're trying to get to the truth like that is that's the approach That's the posture. That's the way to tell the truth I think it's what most people are doing. That's what most people are trying You know, I feel like that's truly honest like I've been wrong about so much Am I really to stand and be like I am positive. This is like no, I'm doing the best I can Yeah, the only honest way to approach it when especially like is a country when you're paying in attacks is in your and your showing up to vote and you're Trying to help your neighbor and you're you know, you're trying to follow the rules and do the best that you can You You know you at a certain point that's like you're you're you're giving into something as a group that you're like giving into something like This is how we believe that we should behave and that it best suits us moving forward And then when it's it's really started to just feel and I think it's kind of obviously at this point that The higher-ups are not working for us anymore They're not working with us and that's what I think is become the most evident In the past year especially is that people are like oh are no matter who we elect on which side whatever it is It's all this sort of shell game and we're finally starting to see some of it And I thought it was interesting that um well not working for us is the is the kind of the most benign description Like not working for you. That's just in difference. That's abandonment That's when your parents like go on vacation don't come home What's happening to us is having like a creepy stepfather like I actually think there's malicious intent Here but how could so many politicians and stuff get compromised? That's what I don't understand Wouldn't there be more people that stood up and said hey, this isn't right like I That's what I find hard to believe well Because they all made the deal And all of them all of them make the deal and the deal is not always explicit in the deal Everyone thinks it's about sexual blackmail, which is totally real all the porn sites are visible like go to a porn site People know exactly what you're looking at there's video of you looking at it's just a fact And um okay, so there's that yeah, and there are a lot of them are secretly gay Of course we know that but I don't think and have drinking problems or she otherwise or whatever Is that enough to keep people? No, I think it's actually deeper than that It's not enough. It's not enough like the obvious ones like why is Lindsey Graham for this or that war it's like okay Yeah, I got it But if you're trying to slurp on little fellas or whatever or you're backing off to like you know butt activity or whatever like does that like You know like I mean the definitely better fun on little fellas. I mean pedophile in his bed It is not good at all. It's horrible right? But if you're just like looking at per not I'm just like that's not the answer that's not that's not most of them are not being sexually Black male somewhere. I mean, I think the Epstein thing was probably that to some extent But no, it's much deeper and more recognizable and part of our daily life than that It's much more insidious than that because it's less dramatic than that It's the deal that we all make with ourselves To get what we want like I want to be powerful. I want to get reelected I want to get rich. I want to bang that girl and you make these compromises with yourself In which you consciously decide to be dishonest You decide in some cases violent that is true Or whatever how do you get so many people though because like you look at some of these systems itself is that like you get In order to get elected I have to do the following things. I have to Basically subvert democracy by carrying water for a tiny group of people Against the interests of my actual voters like that itself is a sin. It's a crime But it's so ubiquitous. You don't even notice it It's deals like that. I'm going to take money from a foreign lobby that somehow isn't registered as a foreign lobby Or whatever. I'll support this thing that I think is probably pretty wrong But I'm going to do it because I have to It's those kind of moral compromises that wind up making people slaves And that's what they are. They're slaves We have hundreds of slaves otherwise known as men members of Congress And what are they slaves to evil because they've made these compromises in order to get what they think is the prize Which is re-elected It's a crazy movie It's real though, man. I know that's the crazy All of us like all of us have made that deal That's why it's so important to reframe it in your head It's not just some freak on pedo island You know banging a child or then oh they have them by the balls because they have videotape of them No, no, it's all of us if I just do this thing. It's worth it man It's for the greater good. It's for my family. It's for you know I need you hear this every election season Right, I need a bomb. I don't want to vote for the shit We need to control the Congress. What is that? You're making a deal with the devil dude with the devil That's what that is bad on before me and all of this will be yours. That's the deal Don't make that deal because you lose yourself you lose your freedom all of sudden you're a slave and you see these politicians They're like oh no, it's it's not no. They're good reasons for doing this. No really What is that it's not a free man? That's an enslaved man and you know the people who are free because They exude this kind of peace and joy and they're like no, I don't care I'll say whatever I think is true. You can shoot me go ahead and shoot me It's not gonna change anything because you're lying and I'm not Like right. It's freedom versus slavery and we put ourselves in slavery with that deal Well the pain of like Of holding on to like lies and stuff like that. Yes and shame and stuff like that. It's really But it's so heavy you've lived that right for sure. Yes Well, that's why getting sober is so liberating not just because you're not Undrugs or alcohol which is itself liberating but because you admit What you did and then you're like oh man, I admitted I was a co-cat or I drank vodka in the morning in my case It's like pretty fucking embarrassing. Yeah, once you admit it. It's like I was putting an ounce in my butt. Yeah No, it's in sorry. Alp is oral use on the house for the front. It's the pouch for your mouth. Oh, I like that. Yeah Yeah, out for the front They should say for the front on them. They should have a special we may do that We're gonna get that hat because we already have for oral use only the pouch for the mouth But this goes in the front Uh, yeah, but you're gonna have like some of your rethrally injuries if we're not more specific Dude, I used to date a girl in her kuda was like way more than the front than it was like kind of in the lower part actually Yeah, how did that work mechanically it worked? You know, it just I don't know. I don't know all the logistics or whatever sure it wasn't post-op was this natural? No This was natural dude and I worked in urban planning so I know how You know what I'm saying like I know how they work a little bit, but yeah, she had that her's her career You understand bridges and tunnels as well. Yeah, I'm saying yeah, just her kuda was up front kind of but anyway, I don't know where we're talking about that Do you do you think We've all had money goals. You know, I remember I wanted it by me. I um A shirt that had sequins on the back for a school dance. I wanted it It had angels weighing sequins on the back and I warned it and it was 48 dollars and I saved up to get it But financial goals aren't achievable Instantaneously you got a plan ahead. 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No, I think I think leadership is the most important thing Why doesn't somebody come up with an app and that tells us like who Like what elected a fit like who's running Right because a lot of people don't have time to focus on exactly who's running right? They don't have as much time They're busy both parents are working people are running around they're picking their kids up They got to get their kid to t-ball They've got to make sure their kids get fed and they have to make sure that the some one of the parents is there to read Him a bedtime story for the other parent goes and works all that as a security guard somewhere Just to make ends meet right so Why don't they have like an app that says okay? This these are the candidates This one doesn't accept any money from any of these places. Yeah, it feels like it would be very easy and obvious to create an app like that That would tell you exactly who to vote for I think that's right the problem is We're getting to a point of like knowledge about things like people sort of are figuring out what's going on That in order to be honest now you have to be truly honest if I think people are so wary of Being lied to that if you sense that someone's like got a you know, I'll be all honest about this stuff And not about that thing that's not enough. So true honesty also called integrity Is what is needed? It's hard. Well you get killed You know you get killed like the system itself and this is not the result of any form power or any business Just like the nature of systems Will will work to expel you the same way your body works to expel bacteria or cancer. It's like The organism doesn't want this and you see it. I've known very few honest members of congress I've known a couple however One of them just left left congress and the other is being primaryed MTJ you're talking about my artillery tailoring exactly and And Thomas Massey from Kentucky and by the way, I don't agree with everything It doesn't it's not even about that. What is being primary mean? I'm sorry to interrupt you It means that your own party says we want you out And so we're gonna run someone from your party against you in the primary your party has turned on you And it's like what is that about and it's about not simply the fact that he disagrees with them on foreign policy Which is release the whole project really is just foreign policy nothing to do with like your tax rates or your debt load He's like anti-apack. He's bigger against those types and he's not for pointless wars So that's a deal killer, but it's not just that it's the he so yeah the Israeli lobbyist mad at him got it, but it's deeper it's He won't be controlled and if he doesn't think something he's not gonna say it period He may be wrong, but he's sincere sincerity Is the kryptonite that's that's what makes the evil person die is sincerity. No, I really mean it. I'm not kidding You I can't be bought. I'm totally sincere if they smell sincerity on you That's what they're calling me the most dangerous anti-Semite since I don't feel or himself I'm like what Because I'm not a genius I'm not powerful at all. I'm a fucking podcaster like I don't have actually any power But I'm not kidding at all. I'm completely sincere. I may be wrong. I often have been but I'm not joking Yeah, that itself So they're hassling me imagine if I was a member of Congress or a presidential candidate or anybody who has sincerity Is marked immediately because that person's a threat to everybody Currently benefiting from the system and you saw that with marjory Yeah, what do you think happened there because a lot of people say that allegedly she made a lot of money off of stock returns and stuff like that That just cracks me up. That's like saying, you know, have you been I know I was talking to Tim Dill in the other days Awesome guy, but he's the best he is the best and but you know, he's but everyone there all claiming he's taking money from Qatar Yeah, me too. They say that. They say that about you I went there once out of blast dude. I'm going tomorrow. Are you I'm buying a house in Qatar. Why am I doing that? Cuz fuck you not only if I never taken a dollar from Qatar or anybody have no investors zero I've no debt. I don't owe anybody anything Period and never will I've never taken money for them. I'm gonna I'm gonna Invest money in Qatar. I'm gonna do just the opposite just to just to give the figure plus it's a great country dude I had a great time when I was there they treat it super nice I know that they have different rules and stuff for their people and that we may disagree with some of them and so I get it's like But those aren't my rules. I don't have to you know like if I go visit I have to live by their rules, but If I'm if I'm if I'm from our country that I can live by our rules I completely agree but they they accuse you of what they are and what they are is corrupt so marjory Did she make a ton of money Trading on stocks with insider information. I bet my house she didn't I mean this is somebody I know well and you do know where well I know well and you can agree or disagree with her of course, but you can't say she's in it for the money really I don't think so. I don't think she's interested in money. I think she's interested in the country and again We can debate whether she's on the right track or the wrong track. You think her ideas are smarter stupid, but her sincerity is the most obvious thing about her and it's also the most threatening thing about in fact It's the only thing that they hate is sincerity because sincerity is purity and it can't be bought And so of course they accuse the first thing they're like oh you must be getting paid by somebody No, I'm not and that's why you hate me. Yeah If I if I was as corrupt as Dan Crenshaw you really think they would hassle me Dan Crenshaw the guy from Texas. Yeah, is he corrupt Well, in the most deep on a moral level he's completely corrupt I mean he takes orders from his donors to do things that have nothing to do with the welfare of his voters So by definition he's corrupt. Yes, and also crazy and in drunk and all the rest sad sad I'm not actually I think I'm in a minute and I come one time. Yeah, well, I'm sure you did But I shouldn't be I feel sorry for Dan Crenshaw being serious But anyway the point is the more corrupt you are The more they like you because they can control you what they don't want is someone Who might do something unexpected who they can control that's what they fear Obviously, it's what everybody fears, but do you think that as um well for for so for marjorie Do you uh what do you think happened in that meeting because he had a meeting I guess with trump? I don't know I don't know what happened between her and trump I know what happened to her over the past five years serving in congress, which was she was like Trump with the drew trump with drew his political endorsement and publicly insult to green labeling her as a traitor Due to her vocal opposition to his handling of Epstein files and other policy disagreements. Yeah Green announcer resignation effective January 5th, 2026 to it of what a divisive primary challenge But why not divisive, huh? Is it divisive a primary challenge divisive? Oh divisive. I never figured they change it so much. Yeah, they do they do um Do they but why not go and challenge then why why sec why secede then why not go and say okay I'm gonna keep fighting and people are gonna support you. I honestly don't know the answer. You don't The only thing I know I really don't I haven't talked about it and I don't know the answer um I'm sure there's thinking behind it that I'm not that great at politics You know the thinking about like what the right move in politics is but I know big picture what happened because I saw it up close Which is she showed up very much like any other person? It's like this this country is problems I want to fix them and she shows up and all people are like shut up honey um She was getting too close to what the truth is and the truth is The people running the system are completely corrupt and the welfare of their people our countries people is Not even on their list of concerns at all They're beholden to the people who pay them And or who threatened them and she said that out loud an oh man They she had like very few allies once you say that you're marked So I think she concluded as my understanding She concluded I can't I'm having no effect here at all it's driving me crazy and um and the Epstein thing You know, I've never understood what the Justification for keeping that information secret jet Epstein was murdered in prison. Okay I know a lot about it. I'm not just throwing that out there Epstein was murdered in prison Well, they put him with a cellmate that was kind of a crazy like former police officer, right? Yeah, former police officer killed a number of drug dealers I'm not saying that guy did it, but I'm saying well I asked you were a prisons Because I learned all this stuff about it because I know Epstein's brother Mark well and Never expected to get down this rabbit hole at all. I had to think I called me like a week after his brother was killed Mark did yeah, and yeah Literally sitting in my backyard in Maine and he called me and I don't know how he got myself We ended up this years-long thing. It's not interesting and I won't bore you with it, but the bottom line is Jeff Epstein was murdered in federal lockup in Manhattan in the secure unit. I think there were only 16 men on the Unit and I think only 14 there that I I may have that slightly wrong It was very small and it's the most secure federal lockup in the United States and he got murdered in it So that raises all kinds of obvious questions like who is the power to do that? So that's a big deal and then the the attorney general at the time help cover it up and I know him and Bill bar so I and I say that and he's like well, I'm gonna show you and I said go ahead and sue me I hope you will and what's the answer like why don't you answer He never will well it turns out and this does make you crazy that his father Donald bar is the guy who started Epstein's career Who both gave him his first job for which he was not qualified and then got him a second job at Bear Stearns For which he was definitely unqualified. What is that former CIA guy? Oh, it's that guy But anyway, the point is that Question of how an American citizen Kid toucher or not could get murdered in federal lockup in our biggest city like holy shit That should scare everybody and then the attorney general of the United States is covering it up. He he admitted This is the attorney general when Epstein was murdered said I told everyone around me We need to make sure the country Believes this was a suicide. It's like you haven't even done a freaking investigation You're a you're the chief law enforcement officer and you're telling me the outcome before you even look into it How do you know that because he admitted it in his autobiography And so I'm not guessing at any of this stuff, okay? So so I call bureau of prisons And I'm like I want the names of the inmates who are serving on this block because clearly nobody got in or out of the block It's right Well, it also was a question our fault to our like To our prison system is like how would you not like the obviously this is the guy you have to protect Did it on purpose and he was murdered clearly by another inmate and there is so much I mean, I did like an hour on this Anyone interested can look it up, but I I'm not a conspiracy not at all I've been a journalist my whole life. I've often been wrong But I've always been attentive to what I believe the facts to be I think it really matters whether you're accurate Um, and I've tried to be so it was not a perfect storm of scrups They never did the investigation into how this guy died They redressed him in clothes that he wasn't wearing when he died for pictures in the hospital infirmary all the records of what happened to his body are gone and critically we cannot get and I tried directly by calling the attorney general's office I want a list of the names of the inmates who are publicly available. They're convicted felons, dude This is not secret information on national security information. Why can't you tell me that They allowed him to be murdered in federal lockups who leave all the peddowisland stuff out of it And just ask yourself how can we continue to live in a country where a high profile inmate can be murdered in our prison system by some who's powerful enough to do that right And so these are not only legitimate questions. They're essential questions And like we're mad at the people asking them. That's the weirdest thing. Fuck you. Yeah That's sorry. I'm trying to get it. No That's one of the craziest things right now. It feels like the people you're supposed to be able to ask you can't Like you wear the weird people now for asking questions like it's like you get labeled as the weird guy for asking questions They just don't want them into your head They just have that lady barry wife or whatever name is and she was on um ABC one of the greatest liars in our public life. Did you see this video? She said I She's seen it. Unbelieveable liar It's either the head of CBS that I'm beginning to sort of reckon with right now is the extent of profound anti-American and anti-Jewish sentiment on large parts of the American right a lot of the liberalism on the left that came From the fringe into the mainstream of the Democratic Party began as a fringe online movement That a lot of Democrats and a lot of liberals waved away because it was just some crazy influencers online and woe to the people that still are telling themselves that and still believe that the things that Candace Owens and Tucker Carlson are saying will not make an impact on the right because they will Everything about that is just so amazing to me. I'm anti-American really Family's been here for 400 years. I have no Allegiance to any foreign country. I put my country first in you takes a lot of balls for barry wife who acts openly on behalf of a foreign country Her only concerns are not American concerns. They pertain to the fortunes of foreign country. Do they really? Oh yes Yes, I'm not that's an informed statement and um Calling me anti-American. You can say the Carlson's an asshole or whatever but she has to call me the one thing that she is Which is like this weird psychology. I have to say I'm calling me a hater. I'm a lot of things. God buffoon a head You know bad table manners. Whatever fat I'm not anti-American. That's all I care about it. I fat maybe holiday chubby maybe Okay, so that's the first thing like you seem like you own a couple build a bear is probably you know Just the seasonal ones. I think you always look like you're ready for Christmas kind of you know what? I wear the same clothes and it keeps my weight down. I'm so cheap. I'm not buying new clothes ever And I just wear I wear size 36 and if I get above that I'm just gonna suffer through it till I stop eating donuts But anyway, and I'm not attacking look here's what I'm saying. I think bearwise is super energetic But why is this someone who's supporting a different country and not our country first? I haven't never anti-American right but also Very wise is a vocal supporter of Israel describing her views as pro is a quote Zionist fanatic calling me She's a self-identified Zionist fanatic calling me answering whatever obviously I'm big too She get to be the head and and I don't know the lady But why does she get to if if her legions isn't to America first? How is she the head of an American network? Well, that's of course an entirely fair question that you're not allowed to ask But here's the deeper thing that I've been meditating on recently is that a lot of our overlords like bearys are actually totally mediocre And the most depressing thing about the United States in 2025 is that we're led not just by bad people But by unimpressive dumb totally non creative people Bearys has no experience in journalism at all like she's never committed She's like an opinion writer or whatever for the New York Times is something she's not a journalist like never written a freaking story in her life And she's dumb she doesn't know anything so that's fine lots of dumb people my dogs are dumb I don't hold it against him But for you to ascend to the top of whatever pyramid you think you occupy And you're not even impressive like Bill Ackman same thing Bill Ackman's worth like eight billion dollars. Something that's fine I don't care if Bill Ackman whatever Bill Ackman does by no way back in he's kind of dumb He's not ever created anything. He's totally non creative How do these people wind up running our biggest institutions and the reason that significant is because if you pay close enough attention And you realize that the people running everything are stupid Then you think actually the system is truly rigged on behalf of people who do not deserve these positions at all It's not just that I disagree with Barry Weiss or she's calling me names are calling her names or whatever It's like in no fair system and no meritocracy would Barry Weiss Rive a rise above secretary like actually and I mean that I've been in this business my whole I've been in this business It's very white. It's breastfeeding. Okay. There's no world in which Barry Weiss rises to the top of a news network except a rigged world That's it Does that make sense? It's it's it's shocking to me right? They're not like people aren't even putting their best people in fact They're they're it's almost a humiliation exercise. It's like we're gonna take someone as stupid as Bill Ackman and give him eight billion dollars We're gonna take someone as stupid and totally non creative Like literally uninformed like she didn't even know who Assad was like she's an idiot And we're gonna put her in charge of CBS news just to show that individual merit energy creativity, which is the most important thing creativity is what a healthy society rewards Because we are designed to create things. That's why we're not animals. We're human beings The creative power is the spark that distinguishes us from all other species. We create things God created the world. He created us in his image and we henceforth create things So creativity has to be the most rewarded Factor in any healthy society and now because our society is inverse. It's upside down creativity is penalized How dare you say that? It's not what every other drone is saying It's not the machine tells us to say and Barry Weiss the single least creative human being the single most robotic what are the talking points Repeating them that person winds up at the top of the pyramid. It is that is what offends me It's not that she loves Israel. I don't give a show what she thinks of Israel It's not that she criticizes me. Obviously. I don't really care It's that her presence at the top of CBS news means all of those institutions are totally fake That's what that's why all of what is the news institutions are that institution wall street of bill acman You tell me want and I'm not even like moralizing and I don't hate bill acman But like bill acman's an idiot who is he? I don't know him He's a hedge fund guy who's made most of his money by Short selling and that means I go on CNBC and I attack your country your company It's stock price falls and I've made a reverse bet against the stock price and I get rich You tell me how that benefits your society talking down American companies Like how is that productive? How is that the active creation is the active destruction and I give you eight billion dollars The whole system is is rigged. Okay I well, I think a lot of people feel that now. They feel like this. I feel like the system is rigged They feel like there's no way for them to win. They feel like it's all insider trading. They feel like it's Hollywood or the news creates a narrative that affects what goes on and then The movies are garbage the mass media all of it is turning out slop and it's like I understand that How does that evolve how do things get better it those institutions are done So our job again is to love the people around us and tell the truth and in that act we make things better Okay, because newt, okay, dude you're got the second biggest podcast in the world or something I mean, I don't think I haven't looked at the charts, but okay, you're doing good. I know you're number seven I've been in this my whole life You've been in this like I don't know you were a stand-up comedian and all of a sudden you're like dominating global podcasting It's like how did that happen? That's the new it's just one example, but that's the new institution. Yeah, dude We're doing our best dude. No, but it's working. That's the point I said these glasses aren't even real the other day Are those not those are pretty ugly to be fake if you're gonna buy yeah if you're gonna buy fake glasses like I everybody hates these I just got them These colors birth control glasses really yeah, those work. You're never gonna impregnate anyone in the class is would you know I'm never gonna knock anybody you're right you're right you're totally right You know what I think you just overcame your eyewear with that You break out the acoustic air of clapped and even I want to sleep with you. I totally agree No, but I think for all that like I do think what's the phrase they use the Black pill or whatever everyone's like so it's all falling apart That's a stage on the continuum. This is an arc of consciousness and you realize holy shit Everything is terrible. It's falling apart and then you get through that right this just happened I just got through it and I'm like yes, but a new world is being born like for real and it's beautiful and it's honest and It's creative. It's not just It's not fake everything what you hate about the modern world is that it lacks Creativity and creativity is the human spark. It's the energy that makes you different from the chair you're sitting in and That is is bursting out everywhere And I love it. Well, they I saw an article the other day um Did you see about how oh with tiktok right with social media with trying to own the companies right? Did you see that video with yet nyahoo for the um tiktok ownership? This is wild bro This is a You can't fight today with swords. It doesn't work very well But we have to fight with the weapons that Apply to the battlefields in which we engage and the most important ones are on social media And the most important purchase that is going on right now is Classes Somebody said buy followers. How hilarious is that dude? That's the best It's Tiktok number one number one and I hope it goes through because it's Can be consequential Imagine saying that so what is that? Why did he say that? Do you think why did he just confirm every crazed anti-semitic conspiracy online Choose control everything and there's literally the prime minister of Israel being like yes, we control everything Why would he say something? Oh first of all he like Barry Weiss is kind of stupid Clever ruthless but stupid not creative at all There's that but there's a deeper reason because he's trying to inspire hatred He's trying to inspire hatred. Yes, we control everything and I'm not falling for it I'm not going to be a hater. I don't care what they do Well, I mean you're we're being a hater in the sense where like if you hate on against him But I guess if you're saying it's evil then yeah hating evil isn't wrong, right? But here's what I'm wondering it's like um If you teach me like growing up like about the Holocaust you teach me about Nazis you teach me about evil And then I will I take what I've learned right and I apply it to the world. Yeah, and I see it. I see it point blank. I see it um In Gaza I see it in the Middle East I see it in Palestine and it's the first one where you see these things happening like It's almost like well if I did it had seen a slavery on my phone. I'd be like this is fuck up if I had see you know, it's like it's the first thing you see And did you see that check who is at some conference recently? I think she was like Carmella Harris's speech writer former speech writer and she's like You know, we made a huge mistake like talking too much about the Holocaust because now people are comparing what's happening in Gaza To the Holocaust, but it's like don't come in in gas like me to think now I'm wrong for seeing this and then and then Imagine it shit. We never should have mentioned the Nazis because we set absolute standards of behavior that we're now failing to meet and we're being blamed And then now when this guy says they want to buy TikTok so that the influence is different like It's just like wow I don't understand but to see why are we the only people that feel uh or why aren't more people activated about this? It's like watching okay, but can I speak you feel like watching something horrible happen and We can't even ask our own country for help. That's a crazy part I can't believe that half of our representatives aren't speaking up and saying something like hey We're gonna shut this down. This is wrong. We're not gonna let because it wasn't he condemned by the ICC for um yeah Well, he don't care. He was condemned war criminal, right? Is that right? I guess yeah um And and I just want to understand how regular people comedians and you know a guy who loves Johnson and Murphy from Maine Are the ones who are fucking having to speak up about like what is going on? That's the beauty that I'm talking about that's the new world being and sorry if you don't love Johnson and Murphy I don't these are like my Turkish grounding shoes Those are nice. They're so ugly But I got these from someone else in the nicotine business who's like do these will ground you to the earth's essential forces really I don't know what that means of course. I have no idea But I I am originally from California in the 70s. I kind of fall for shit like that. I'm like you could smoke in them for sure I've smooth yeah But I'll say this cigarettes in those in my life every time I see a Johnson Murphy out peaked my head and I say hey, Tucky I say that I really know what it is Just like it's like a shop. That's like a Brooks Brooks brothers kind of. Oh, yeah, no, I buy my clothes any big always But anyway, sorry, it wasn't it wasn't a negative. No, no, but here's the point though. It's like this is the beautiful thing Is it like negative? Yeah, oh, why I never get the reference. I'm so fucking out of it, but um We're like in this moment where The old is going away and the new is on its way and some of it is menacing and scary and hard to understand like a Iir crypto, okay could be good could be bad could be both But it's big But some of it is just totally recognizable. It's called the human spirit and it's you're a pressable You can't actually extinguish it no matter how many people you kill and No matter how many lies you tell it will always sort of bubble up Around you and it's bubbling up now in a big way and yeah, and I would just last thing I want to say like if you really are Were if you feel like oh, there's this international conspiracy of people to oppress humanity and to kill humanity That's obviously true to great us and slave us obviously true like not even a guess that's happening But who's behind it go and read some of the Epstein emails that have been released thousands have been released and ask yourself like as a human What's the first thing I noticed? Jeffrey Epstein was a fucking idiot. He could barely speak English He was from Coney Island and he was like an idiot. He writes like a moron Okay We're being oppressed by dumb people We imagine their geniuses because they're evil But we miss the obvious signs that these people are stupid. They are stupid They're not as impressive as like the normal people in my world. Jeffrey Epstein was an idiot So we have this like picture of like the diabolical genius pulling the strings. I'm moving this population here and this Popular I'll give them the COVID vaccine But really you've got like just thugs. They're just like nightclub bouncers We have billions of dollars in their idiots their head injury patients Bill Akman like he's a fucking idiot Jeff Epsi it's true very wise like I'm not too worried about Barry Weiss taking over over the world I don't care how many billionaires hand her news organizations because she's obedient to their Preferred country. She's still an idiot. Sorry I've heard Tim Dylan talk about her, but I'm not that familiar with her He knew her very well. I think he did But so I think Tim and he can speak for himself But as I remember the story like he was in her orbit And um, you know, I know all the people of course in her orbit and some of them I like I've never just like very waste personally She's she's very charming. I will say in very energetic, which I love and anybody but He was like buddies with her and they're going to parties and then like Well, he can explain it better than I could but my understanding is he's like one day is like um killed a lot of kids in Gaza I think And I think within like 10 minutes she was like on the phone with his agent got a fire Tim Dylan Bobby Okay, so I guess our friendship wasn't built on the foundation. I assumed it was It's like and dumb people are very much like that they have like one Interest there what we call single issue voters like there's no nuance at all. I remember her Do you remember when she attacked Tulsi Gabbard who's a beautiful soul just a good girl? She's very nice She's sent me a couple of nice messages over the years. She's a great person. She's an honest person very tall Remember when he attacked her on Rogan And Rogan in his oh, yeah, Rogan stood up for her in his wonderful way He's like I'm not sure what do you mean by that? You know in his Rogan like not attacking back But just like explain yourself a little more and Barry Weiss was like it was like you caught her on the john or something She was like oh Have to explain the casual slander right through it or she had no fucking idea what she was talking about Oh, it was the word toady. She didn't know what toady man. She's a toady for a sod And it's like oh there it is. Oh my memory is still in place and she couldn't define toady For according to multiple accounts for listeners and subsequent commentary Struggled to define toady and that specific context and failed to effectively backup her assertion with specific facts Being flustered during the exchange the moment was wildly circulating clips online and frequently brought up by critics of Weiss As an example of a journalist using upstantiated labels or neocon talking no It's an example of someone who got a 350 on the English SAT. Okay. This is a dumb person We know that okay, but somehow got a job at the New York Times. You don't know what toady is like she's in the word business Baby, you know, well, I just don't understand how like Why isn't there like You used to believe that everybody that was elected was campaigning for America first right like America first was the was the thing that's our system Right, but that's that's not what's going on. Well, it's of course just the opposite I mean look at the country So the country's dying not because the people were bad because of bad leadership. Yeah, leadership is everything I used to you know you get brainwashed growing up here and you're like no It really matters is how most people feel no what really matters is the willingness of your leaders to actually die for you as you would for your children like is that simple if they love you They will your country will prosper if they hate you it will fail. It's super simple. They don't like us. Okay. Got it got it And what do you think that we could do differently? I know that John Rich on your show that well one thing It was interesting. He said that he felt like a lot of Americans if this kind of coward and watch this kind of happen You don't be a bitch. Yeah, he was pretty adamant about it Don't ever be a bitch. Um, he was speaking mostly about Christians, but also about Americans That they've just kind of coward and sort of let this like um Let evil policies evil things come in and not stood up for their own voices or stood up against their own fears Do you think that that's true? Oh gosh, it's the truest thing. I participated in there are plenty of things I just like I don't want to deal with that. Yeah, or I might oh you want to mask it if it's true I mean, I hate to point One of your as I said a minute ago one of your ticks verbal ticks that I just I want to emulate and I want to be like this Is you preface every attack or assessment of someone else with a self critique you're like I've done a lot of shitty things, but I think that person's doing a shitty thing like it's a really good habit to get into just because Righteousness is good self-righteousness is evil and there's a big difference. Well your ego is very scary That's a thing so scary. It's a scariest thing It's a scariest thing. That's what kills you if you're a man anyway for sure the ego is very scary But yeah, I have there been like Yeah, where's the leadership supposed to come from now like if we can't believe that our politicians are gonna guide us right? Well, the system is obviously changing, you know Just like the media, okay? I went into this in 1991. It's I can't I could write 10 books on how different it is Everything about it not just my perceptions of it, but the systems itself are totally different and so systems evolve and we're clearly At the end of something in the beginning of something else and I can't know with any precision what we're moving into But clearly it's not gonna be like what we had like we know that because this system doesn't work Doesn't produce anything worth having It's obviously dishonest in a transparent way a lie doesn't infuriate you unless you know it's a lie now We know it's a lie so by definition we can't keep doing this and Barry wise can be like anyone who disagrees with Nenya Who is now imprisoned and you can do that and sure I'm sure she would love to do that But it's still not gonna work because you're gonna have prisons full of people still disagree with Barry wise like you can't Change people's minds by force. It has never worked in and never will so our system is Reaching the end of something. I hope it's not I love our system I hope it's not destroyed, but clearly it's gonna change. It has to it will it feels like it's gonna happen fast That doesn't happen fast and I just hope it's not too destructive. I don't want chaos man. That is I've seen that in foreign countries and it's scary. There's nothing scarier than that Is there's happened in your state it happened during I saw during Katrina Whoo Yeah, I was like I can't believe this is happening You know, it's very dare to where there's no cops and their kids running around with guns and like shooting Was right next to a guy who got shot to death like what yeah Yeah, people listen to a young boy just popping off to do and you who knows what that's what chaos looks like it's so bad Yeah, I don't want that at all and there'll be a lot yeah There's a lot of guns in this state too. So people there's a lot of guns in every state Especially in my house, but yeah, but I'm not the only one And I know you know, I don't think in the end. Oh, I think how it all ends is blacks first drones. That's how I think it ends And I've said this before and I believe that Can you game it out for me a little bit? How does that play out? Because like You know the news over time and everything it makes white people reg you know white people look bad white people The devil blah blah. Yeah, whiteies, you know during like the Trump campaign. They were like Every southern person in midwestern person was the only you know pieces shit, you know just all that The white people started in up on a lot of pills and stuff like that and just confused about their own value and stuff like that And that's been unfortunate Because there's a lot of great people, but um, it's actually one of the great crimes ever in this country. It's unbelievable But black folks I think are still like fit. They're still like You know, if they've kind of gone through this um You know if they've got they've had such an origin story in America right enslaved and then like and their origin story is the best to it to be the Victor in the end, right? I feel like their origin story makes the best arc character arc to be like the hero at the end So I think it ends up them verse drones verse like the drones owned by evil folks and I think that's how it ends, you know, I think You got to go. I think I would go with black folks I would go with any people over the drones. Yes But I think it's gonna be black folks Help us win it and they're gonna defeat the drones. How many will it be best to seven? I don't know We'll see and we'll be advertising will it be brought to you by prize picks? I Know idea, bro. That doesn't matter, but I'm just saying bro. You're gonna have it's gonna be That's where I think that's how it ends well One of the reasons that you know all those years they called me or no one ever calls me a racist anymore But um they used to for years when I was at Fox racist racist racist and so I really thought a lot about am I a racist and no I'm annoyed by certain things for sure, but I'm not a racist at all and not just because I think it's immoral to be a racist I'm not a racist because Black people what do we think of black people are like the most American been here. I've talked about African Americans Hundreds and hundreds of years like if you believe in the country if you really feel like you're part of it your ancestors Are buried here. You're gonna die here, which is how I feel It's like you're in it with black people because they've been here since day one, you know what I mean? There's like a it's an American I feel that actually yeah, I'm not I think it's I don't know how like I mean Definitely it's a it's a wild group black folks, but I think They love to get in they love to like They love competition so I could definitely see them Getting into it with drones dude, and that's how I'm rooting for him. Oh, yeah, I'm rooting for blacks against drones for sure Yeah, that's the kind of shit. I'm talking about and also do you think that the I mean it's it's tough to fight drones Black people can figure it out. You think so I think if they once they really apply themselves to a sport They start to crack the codes pretty quick You know you put the hitstick on a drone dude. I think they'll figure it out dude. I hope so it's gonna be exciting Dude that's just gonna be one of the best things ever and it'll be will be able to some people will be able to watch it You'll be able to watch some of it on your phone Really yeah, dude blacks first drones for sure dude. Have you checked with black people about this at all? Oh, they're down bro Black people are down in a heartbeat black people. It's Theo you guys ready for blacks versus drones Dude five people love to play game bro. They love to have a good time So I think if you and if drones are just shooting people out in the streets and stuff like if one of these companies like Palantir like they were using in Gaza comes just starts popping off here, which now has a death like Isn't Palantir they're able to they're gonna do our data now, aren't they aren't they aren't they gonna? I don't know oversee us. I don't know. I see a lot of A lot of people referring to that but I'm just gonna have to plead ignorance on this and this is allegedly But there's articles that allege that That they have weapons attached to attach to drones and that they're able to figure that out Palantir technologies holds multiple major contracts with the US government particularly with the Department of Defense Howl added by a recent US Army enterprise agreement valued up to 10 million over 10 years Let me see consolidating 75 prior contracts and a one for software and data services to boost military readiness um Now just keep it that looks like it's from Wikipedia, which is obviously controlled by CIA. This is perplexity right here What's that? perplexity is a company that advertises with us. It's an AI. Oh really? Yeah. Oh good. It doesn't scold you ever Not yet But some of that stuff's getting pretty wild. Did you see um That they were just paying chat gpt israelis paying chat gpt to adjust their sentiment towards them Is that true? That's unbelievable. I don't know if it's true or not I want to find out in a second if we can get this hard to come here So the problem is gonna be the problem is gonna be YouTube. Oh does YouTube stay open or not? I think I mean that's the vector canis ohens as like the most famous person in the world because of YouTube Yeah, YouTube is the backbone of all of the stuff and if there is some God hope it doesn't happen, but if there's some active violence in the United States That can be used as a pretext in the same way that January 6th was used as a pretext to shut down only people They'll kick people off. I my fear is that people there will be a crackdown on YouTube and at that point You know, that's a big That would be a true disaster for the country if they kick people off the YouTube I think oh I agree So if there's an active violence whether it's organic or not because some of them are not organic Sorry, that's a fact a proven fact But whatever the cause of it if there's an active violence against innocence And it's described as a hate crime That It's not crazy to imagine and that could be used to tie people whose opinions Are in popular with certain groups Those people need to be off YouTube and all of a sudden there's an emergency meeting with sunda pasha Google and it's like I'm sorry you cannot have pervaders of hate like hand to soons and Mayor you can't have them there These people died Because these podcasters said hateful things you have to take them off But we're not saying hateful things are we obviously I'm totally opposed to hate I mean, that's like my whole life is against it When you hate even in your heart even silently you make evil stronger. That's a fact Well the physics principle the only reason I bring up this stuff about is really is because they're doing a genocide I couldn't agree with you if I saw if I was in Nazi Germany and I saw bad things happening And I didn't raise my hand or if Nazi Germany was trying to buy a bakery next door to me and I'd be like hey Must I was guys buying the bigger you know, it's like who would I be right like I don't understand what you want me to do like you can't Get out of my face and I'll stop thinking about you I said I can't train me to think one way and then show me this A replica of it and not expect me to have the same sentiments for it Like that's what I understand that and it calls someone a bad guy because of that is crazy to me This article says the government of Israel is hired a new conservative aligned firm clock tower X LLC to create media for general Gen Z audiences in a contract for six million at least 80% of content clock tower producers will be tailored to Gen Z audiences across platforms Clock tower clock tower integrated pro Israel messaging in the Salem media network properties a conservative Christian media group That both a vast radio network and produces high profile shows such as you You it show Larry Elder show and the right view with Laura Trump So, oh, oh look at that former Trump manager Brad par scale Uh, that is so disgusting. That is so to Brad par scale is doing that. That is I don't know him is in nice. I know him He's a he's a sad guy very sad guy in its contract clock tower does not reveal much about what kinds of messaging will be promoted on behalf of Israel Um, he took money for wait Brad par scale took money for the Israeli government to do that I don't know former Trump campaign manager Brad par scale the advisor who hired the controversial micro targeting firm Cambridge analytic during Trump's 2016 campaign is at the center of the Israeli government's new deal So Brad par scale. I don't think his an evil person is a weak man for sure. I mean demonstraly, but For an American citizen to take money from a foreign government to secretly propaganda is on behalf of that government without saying it is really Speaking of unpatriotic. I mean, that's just I hope that's not true Well, it just it's like at this point. It's um, and I guess I mean it's real certainly allowed to advertise wherever they want Anybody can do this sort of thing. This isn't advertising. This is so advertising is not threatening because when it's just straight forward You see a billboard for jeans and it's like by my jeans. Okay, it's your choice This is basically subliminal messaging. This is an effort to subvert What you think is true by making it dishonest. I'm paying you To lie on my behalf. That's what this is and you don't disclose that you're taking money to do that and everything about this Is dishonest and wrong and any American who would take money for that? I you know Again, speaking of anti-American really who's the audience for this? It's American citizens who think they're like tuning in for conservative analysis and actually they're getting the the point of view of a foreign government like How is that okay? Brad Park scale. I don't know how we I just don't understand. I think yeah I think it's just I don't know It's a tough time because you realize oh you thought all these things were in place that we're keeping our country thought our country was taking care of us But would you take money from a foreign would you take if let's take Israel out of it? Maybe it's that's not true That's a naive old thought of mine. It's like yeah, you realize now that that's not the case, you know But I think it's like where do we go from here? Well, let me just I mean I don't want to be judgy because I've done all kinds of bad things you've been judgmental already I have been that's one of my weaknesses self-righteousness is the trap and I fall into it for sure But you have to let me just ask you if Again, take Israel out of it because it's so emotional Any country. Oh, let's go with guitar You said you like guitar. I really like guitar a lot And I could defend guitar, but Would you take money for if the guitar is like okay? We'll pay you $10 million or six million What's the things with bread? Parsco God supposedly We want you to just subtly shift your message to be pro guitar. Don't tell anybody you're taking this money but just Feed our line to your audience without telling them that you're doing it would you accept that money? No, I wouldn't do it Of course not of course not of course you would never do that No, I wouldn't do something. I wouldn't let people pay to have a person on this podcast. I wouldn't let somebody I wouldn't do that of course Do you feel like the people must be trying to because the podcast is sometimes yeah, sometimes they do or somebody's like hey We uh Katara asked if we would do one from their country right during UFC fight right and I thought about that And we're trying to figure that out But I didn't feel like it was the best kind of setting sort of and um now when I go back Over there some time and spend some time sure I would had a great time. That's a really neat guys Because a lot of the guys over there. They're in the uh throbes and stuff thobb. They're in the thobb Which are pretty awesome dude. They're nice because you can have no underpants on. I don't think any them do I think they're like kiltz. I like that. Yeah. Yeah. All right. It's full-free style country. Oh god Talking to somebody and just feeling your nuts bang against your legs while you're standing there. When a person has no idea That's great. No, I do. I do. I do. I do. For oh that's like uh that guy like uh the hunts back a Notre Dame kind of you know. Oh did he go free style too? No, but just him. I just imagine like a handicapped guy inside of my legs ringing my nuts with like a rope or whatever You know like a bell, you know Really? See you picture like a little gremlin under there. Yeah, just be fun like pulling the donkords. Oh dude If you're not had real bells inside of him that should be sick. Imagine the pain the force Of that ringer hitting the sides the cast iron is a lot. I wouldn't want that anywhere anywhere near that's true I bet if you're nuts weight even two more ounces it would strain you so much Dude yes, I bet your nuts have the perfect weight to them I think that's the whole theory of evolution, isn't it? We evolved to have like perfectly weighted nuts and our ancestors who had I don't disproportionately weighted nuts. Oh, yeah, they didn't reproduce so their genes died average human testicles each way about 15 to 25 grams. Wow That's uh, so How would you compare that just like about an eight ball? That's a couple eight balls a couple eight balls how many grams run an eight ball? I think it's eight right? Seven and a half I think yeah Yeah, it depends over you if you're getting an embaltamort's probably six in there. Yeah, I think that's right. Those are the baby laxative Oh 3.5. Oh gosh, it's been too long. So that's how rehab you are dude I love that. Did you hear that? Did you hear his genuine ignorance about narcotics damn you are better. I'm losing Dude I can't even fucking did I'm I'm just forgot how to free base at this point Is it baking soda or cleaning fluid? I can't remember I've been telling really good eight balls man. Oh dude Um, what else is I gonna ask you about yeah, but it's just so somebody's like what do you why do you care about it? Because I just think that it's like yeah, you can't allow a country. I don't know. I don't care I can't wait to stop it now. I'm I'm so beyond sick of talking about it. Yeah, sorry. I'm sorry I'm sorry that I'm not with you, but I actually called the Israeli government more than once I was like okay, I got it just stop you're gonna get me killed um Just stop taking money for my country. I won't even criticize Your genocide like because there are lots of bad things going on the world. That's true. That is true They're not the only ones. Okay, that is absolutely right when they say that they're not the only country committing atrocities. Oh no our own countries come I agree. I totally agree. It's all coming out in the snow right now, but it's just it's great How about we just don't send any more money for those of trot like I don't think that's too much to ask if you would stop it If you get out of the oval office No more visits from your prime minister. This is insane. There are so many countries in the world that actually matter Your country doesn't matter It's a size of Maryland. You have no natural resources at all like you are irrelevant except the extent we promise to defend you So how about you just go do your own thing we wish you well And I will never think about you again. Why do you think that doesn't happen Because they can't exist without us and so rather than just say that we get these lectures like oh America can't exist without Israel. It's like why are you even talking to me like first of all at some point I'm offended stop lecturing me actually. I'm from here I'm not a perfect person, but I really care about this place because I've nowhere else to go in my ancestors are here and like Stop but they won't stop and they're constantly Calling you names because they're committing bad behavior. It's like I spent 30 years not talking about this. You think I didn't notice you think I didn't know what was up I'm from Washington. I know what's up Yeah, and I decided I don't want to talk about this because there are all kinds of other things I want to talk about I don't want to fight with these people. I'm not against Israel at all. I like visiting there. It's great I don't want to fight. It was only when Their trump gets elected in November and by January they're in the oval office foreign officials from Israel and the oval office demanding that we pay for a regime change war against Iran and I'm like Yeah, come on now come on now. We just had the selection. I campaign for Trump I was there at Madison Square Garden and it was heartfelt too. I didn't do it. No one paid me to do it I did because I mented and I love Trump personally I still have Trump personally, but it was like that whole election was about we've had enough of this the rockware Didn't work it didn't make us happier it really hurt everybody including us especially us and I don't want it again Just back off they didn't wait to he got he got inaugurated on the 20th of January. I was there. I was in the room And like days later they're there demanding that we back them in a regime change war and I knew this because Because I've been around and I talked to other people like I keep this is happening And then in June They we came really close to getting in like a full-blown war with Iran. Yeah, remember that we spend billions in this totally pointless exercise They're continuing to try and make us do this so it's from my perspective It's like I'm not obsessed with Israel You just back off and I'll never mention you again I don't want to think about you at all because you you're meaningless actually yeah You're a tiny country that has no strategic value at all So just as long as you stop trying to control my government I'll leave you alone. Well, it's something starts to seem like it's a video game And they've always controlled everything and that and then like that's where and like we're just now realizing it's like I've said this a couple times, but it's almost like that's true Like if super Mario almost like looked at the screen one day and like looked at you playing with him Instead of just like follow your demands on the screen like if one day he just like fucking Set down his fireballs And like looked over at you and was like hey what the fuck are we doing here? You know It's almost like that's where it's just like broken fourth wall. Yeah, basically no I mean like if he's just like I'm so tired of fighting this dragon, you know, it's like look Let's just let Bowser live. Let's just chill out, you know Like if I just wonder if it became real. Yes. Yeah. Well, that's the product. That's exactly the process That's where we are right now and I think you're saying it's like yeah, look if you if you can just let go of like this That because it's sometimes it's anger that fuels that you know sometimes it's fear Some of it's like yeah a lot of it's fear I think uncertainty safety um But if you can get the anger out of it and just let it go and be like I'm just gonna do my best that I can But I'm gonna be brave and speak up when I can Even if I'm wrong, you know, that's a thing. It's like I wish more people were speaking up Sometimes even if they're wrong. I was kind of like Do you think that enough like pastors and preachers didn't speak up during the Gaza conflict? That almost blew my mind Does that make sense to you? Oh, it's the most heartbreaking part I mean from my perspective as an American Christian Protestant American Christian. It's like Yeah, of course. I think what Israel's doing is disgusting. I mean, it's it's indefensible But my real like rage like what I'm actually upset about if you're at dinner at my house I never talk about the I never rage about these realies or the Jews at my house. I just don't feel it my rage my actual personal rage Is directed toward my people. It's Protestant Christian evangelical pastors Who have made deals with the Israeli government or have theology so deranged That they think their Christian faith requires them to support the murder of children including Christian children And I know some of them and they believe that and that to me is very hard to forgive like I need to be a better person I need to keep them in my prayers because I really feel hostility toward those people Because they are the betrayers is really in the end is acting in this own interest or what it thinks is his own interest Those people what's their excuse and they're going out there and giving sermons about Candace Owens on Sunday She's not in the New Testament. Okay, they're really doing that a big time And that is not whatever you think of Candace Owens like I love Candace Owens But maybe you hate Candace Owens. We can all agree that your opinion on Candace Owens has no bearing on the future Of your soul. Okay, that's not Christianity. It's nothing with Candace Owens So like if you are giving sermons against Candace Owens then you are betraying your people Okay, and because you're misrepresenting Your faith Christianity and those people I I clearly need to calm down about them because They're truly the villains in the story. That's my opinion of course There's always matters to the people you know best and like Israel whatever good do your crazy Israeli things American evangelical leaders defending Netanyahu And you know many Christians have been killed in this the Israel has murdered what Christians have to do with it You telling me there is law mess too now. Oh, it's totally true and one of the reasons they hate me is because I keep pointing out I know that's true Tucker Because they blown up two churches in Gaza and killed people in the churches What do the churches have to do with this You're telling me that this is some existential battle between Islam and civilization That's not true by the way, but let's say it was truth and why you blowing up churches. Oh, it was an accident Oh really you have the technology to put bombs and people's pages But you accidentally blew up two churches. It was not an accident. They did it on purpose They've killed a lot of Christians on purpose and I'm probably the only person American media to point that out Because I'm a Christian so I get to say that if I want shut up Nazi Why aren't there more like where are the Christian leaders in this? Yeah So now you've pissed me off like this. I'm sorry man I don't know whenever we're talking about anti-Semitism with a Nazis or Israel or whatever It's like it's it's so fake to me that I'm not I don't get upset This is real to me. Oh the Church of Saint Porthirious St. Porthirious. Yeah, it's a famous church the Greek orthodox church one of the oldest in the world was hit by an Israeli air strike on October 19th 2023 Distrike Collapse and adjacent church affiliated building were around four or five hundred people displaced were sheltering killing 18 people The Holy Family Church as the only Catholic Church in Gaza strip this church has been a central shelter for God's This Christian community in December 2023 to when we were poorly killed by a sniper while leaving the church um and July 2025 the Church of St. John is really tank fire killing injuring 10 Including the Paris-Price father Gabriel Ramanelli. Well, why isn't the Pope spoken up about it either? I wonder has he spoken about it? What did the Pope say? You know, I'm not I don't keep track I'm not Catholic and I was going to church in town and I was just shocked that people weren't speaking about it Like and that's the moment you start to feel like am I crazy? No, they they in evangelical world and not all this is a very broad Brush I know a million I didn't know next to one last time. It was just a wonderful person There are lots of tons of tons of great evangelicals But their leadership in general has not only refused to condemn it. They've defended it And at that point it's like this is the great deception you read about in the New Testament If this isn't a great deception Jesus' message is not to kill children Okay, and if you're telling me that it is I don't need a theology degree to say you are a false prophet and you're gonna have to Pay for what I mean you are like taking your soul into your own hands when you say shit like that That is so the opposite of the message This is not a religion of conquest and violence. It's the opposite Period. How can you read it and tell me otherwise? But why will an ester? It's it okay, but why are they or why are they doing that? Do they but but because this is real nothing is real from the Bible right? This is the this is a I've tried to have this conversation Okay, so if it is Tell me how yeah, it doesn't feel like I'm talking about and I'm not a theologian I'm a freaking Episcopalian like I admit I know nothing But I do read the Bible every day. So I just don't see what you're talking about so you tell me what you're talking about This is the Israel we read about this is the inheritance of Abraham and Know how how is it genetically the same? Is it are the people who live there now related to the people we read about in the Old Testament? If they are we have DNA tests tell me how that works. Oh those are banned. Okay. So then you tell me it's the same religion How is it the same religion? There's no temple like what are you even talking about? By the way, maybe there's a good answer that I just don't know I don't understand but they literally never even try to answer the question It's shut up Nazi including from Christian ministers calling me a Nazi really asked. Oh big time And again Not to make it about me, but I'm just want to be honest about it that upsets me whereas you know netany I will also call me a Nazi. It's like you're just some dumb politician. You can't do a Nazi directly. Absolutely That's right. Of course. Yeah, my tax dollars are paying his salary. Oh He's oh he's Yeah, I can't even tell you but yes, of course But it's Christian pastors when you ask a simple question you're telling me we have a duty to support quote Israel because A first in Genesis tells you that okay fine. That's really fine. What does that mean? What is the Israel you're talking about? Shut up Nazi it's like You're a Christian pastor and I'm a Christian. I'm a faithful In perfect we're saying that are there specific pastors Dr. Mike Evans Heritage Center um No, no, listen right now we have a move within the mag movement that is anti-Israel It's serious because it's led by Tucker Carlson was very close device president It's coming out and saying worse things presently than Nazi party said I'm saying worse things that the Nazi party said I'm totally anti-Nazi I'm totally anti-hate and above all I'm anti blood guilt and collective punishment Which is what was bad about the Nazis? Let's remember and this guy is a Christian minister or supposedly or something So it's this kind of thing that actually does get under my skin. That's my problem I should just shrug it off But I have a lot of trouble shrugging it off because it's such a distortion of my religious faith that I I have trouble letting it go I'm just being honest Well, I think it's brave to be able to speak up even sometimes if you're right or wrong. It's brave to try It's our obligation to try I was quiet for 30 years. I shouldn't have been I shouldn't have had I didn't want to fight but I shouldn't have been and people say will you get information wrong? It's like but if if information is given out that's wrong then how do you expect someone to know accurate information? Dude, I'm telling you it's really simple because this is the business. I've always been in I ask questions You have stuff right here. I have a sneak a teen. No, no, I wanted to say how good it is It's an opportunity. It's a form of advertisement like I let it hang out of my my wife's down here to lick her thumb Which she does which is kind of hot but You say you've got stuff in your face then I get to pause and say it's not just stuff Fio von it's nicotine. It's Alp the pouch for your mouth Yeah, you got a little mogul right there. Yeah, but you don't see it back there Yeah, like if I was using zin you'd be like wait your lower back is covered with this weird white shit. Why is that? I don't know. I've definitely done some things but I'll say this Pope Leo the 14th has reiterated the Vatican's insistence on a two-state resolution for the Israeli policy in complex I see only solution that can guarantee justice for both sides Liam may the comment Comments as he flew from Turkey to Lebanon. Can I ask there's been a change in the spelling of Turkey when from Turkey to Turkey. Yeah, this is like the key of key of change and no one notified me They probably bought let somebody there might have been a letter deal or something. Let me say Turkey Turkey Maybe they're trying who knows man Turkey and and and I was just in Turkey and they were calling it Turkey And do you feel like it's hard for a lot of Jewish people to speak up about this because they're afraid of like alienating other Jewish friends That's what I found with some of my Jewish friends like they'll talk with me about it and stuff like that but um And my Jewish friends are fine if I have different views on Israel, right? Like it doesn't mean I have different views about them But if I don't like what a government's doing including our own government then that's okay, right? one of my Jewish friends former Jewish employee actually called me this morning Talked to him for like an hour and a half about other stuff not about Israel But in the course of the conversation he told me that he had Said something to one of his co-workers about Nenya. He didn't like Nenya. Whatever. That's literally he's Jewish I don't like Nenya who and that co-worker went to his boss and called him an anti-Semite What that's crazy. I think there's that I also think there's something else going on which is sad which is I think a lot of What I'm seeing happened to Jewish people including friends of mine people I know Is there so much yelling about the Nazis and the Holocaust? The people are getting really freaked out and I've had people I have known for you know decades and love Call me like are you a Nazi? Dude, it's me. No, I'm totally anti-Nazi. What are you even talking about? Well, everyone says you're a Nazi This happened to me at dinner recently said Or even toes a well-known person If you were not so you would have a tank or something but also like you would not be in loafers Well, I might be wearing my Turkish grounding issues. You're Turkish with and by the way they leave A little green spot on the bottom of your foot That means you're winning that means you're grounded to the earth But no, I think it's making people really paranoid and afraid and I think that that's on purpose and And terrified people are really easy to control. That's what happened to us after 9-11 the Muslims are coming 19 Arabs with box cutters I'm gonna say that I said to one of my kids last night dinner I was like I'm making a pledge to you as your father that I'm gonna use the phrase Arabs with box cutters every single day and I'm gonna laugh every time I say it Because it amuses the shit out of me Just like you're gonna be a conversation sometimes be like oh, no, you're like Arabs with box cutters Anyway, all of us believe the Arabs with box cutters thing for all those years And it made us so freaked out and afraid and threatened That we went along with all the stuff that was really bad for us and the world And I think that a similar op actually is underway in the United States with Jewish people and it's like you're about to get killed It's like no, I mean, maybe I think there are anti-Semitism America for sure and there are crazy people for sure There are always threats, but in general, I've never met anyone like hates all Jews or that's all fake I'm scared like shit out of people like it's real. Yeah, I again, I have friends good friends We're like I can't believe you're not you know You know That's crazy, dude. I know it's sad actually. It's awful Well, I think anytime you find somebody I not thought this in my own world It's like if you start thinking like oh this race or this ethnicity or this group should be the one Yes, then that is a trap. That is a dangerous. That is a evil right right there. That is that is the true It's evil thought or feeling because it's just it's not possible. It's not real So you have to recognize that that kind of thought is just a trap that it's very We agree agree and that is the trap they're luring you into When they call you names they are trying to make you into the hater they claim you are and once you become that you're destroyed Yeah And obsessing over like other races being bad like that's he become a fucking crazy person Well, that's the kind of stuff that the news is done every year So when you start to think about all the in fighting that the news is created over the years and let us down all these rad But holds it's like Fuck what what the fuck were we doing the whole point was to make you hate each other. Yeah, who's dividing conquer a hundred percent Airbus with box cutters. Can I just say? Thanks for drones dude. There's the box cutters. Okay. All right. There's the box cutters. Okay. Um is there is I know when you think about there is when you say it of course like 20 years being like the threat is The oh the threat is airbus with box cutters. They could be anywhere That's like shut up I don't know it's if It's pretty masterful like how things have gone on but it's just It's pretty wild You will punch through I can tell that you're like in a stage that I was literally last week And then you get through it and you're like it's okay It's totally okay. I was an idiot for believing that stuff in the first place. It's my fault actually If I fell for like Read his Jeffrey Epstein's emails and you will realize like If I fell for the idea that he was like a diabolical mastermind and not some thug from statin island or koney island That was on me then you break through and you're like of course it's fake. It was never real You really think that with the world at stake three zip codes in Pennsylvania or choosing the president. Okay Yeah, all right now um so no of course it's fake Shame on me for believing it but now like all the things that are real god people you love the truth It's like there's so much to be happy about actually you don't have they want you to be totally freaked out They are the ones who wrote this horror movie right like bang most I know his holy shit is there something under the bed Yeah, and you look under the bed and you realize it's actually there tons of monsters under the bed But they're kind of like lame monsters. They're like Jeffrey Epstein monsters They're like not that scary really. I'm not afraid of you bitch And then the second you say that you're like oh, I'm not afraid of anything actually Like look under the bed. Yes, they're monsters. No, they probably can't kill you unless you bitch out and let them yeah Do you um what do you feel like about is going on with Candace right now? Do you feel like the the issues with the with the French are realistic? When she went down that weiner thing I was like Cares if that lady has a weiner whatever um oh, oh, oh, no, no, no, yeah the the president is who cares If somebody has a dang weiner or whatever someone lady has a weiner It's like I'll be shocking if you didn't know it and you found it by accident. I do think that oh Yeah, if you were looking for something your person then a damn weiner was in that No, but I mean if you were like, I don't know when a cab or something and reached over and you do found what you didn't expect You know like in Bangkok or something if I'm harassed show that thing off every now and then I puff that bitch out of poverty Come on, yeah, yeah, I would do that ring game I would kind of like I'd have that ring game like and just hang it for my chin and then have people try to hook it on there You know you need your roommate with a vagress supply Would you know Did make me play it like three or four times? I was in bed with my wife and you showed up in the dark with an acoustic guitar playing Eric Clapton That would skip first of all I would and I'm not violent but I'd fucking blow you away because I have a sidearm in my I would all of a sudden you're in bed with your girl and those someone Eric Clapton and acoustic guitars like a fucking nightmare You like the ink your best I'd be like stop right there. You be like If I saw you Well the crazy thing it's a sad song. I don't even know what the song was about I just learned it and then and hindsight when I realized I'm in there just playing for a bunch of geeked-up seniors Who were hopped up on own weener uppers and I was over there fucking playing a sad song like you said You said about his son Yeah, it's a beautiful but yes, it is and it's very sad. It's heartbreaking. I don't know what I was doing It's not a sexy song though and I wonder how that mixes with flagra. I don't see them Like of all the Viagra songs like paradise by the dashboard flights or so you know, yeah Well, I only knew three songs you shook me all night long didn't have it but tears in heaven I mean, that's a boner kill. No, I thought so that's like a dirge they'd been drinking orange juice and vodka's dude I the best thing I could do was that and then I had that uh Well Billy Ray was a preacher son and that was a little just these springfield ladies to that's kind of a hot song in a way That was a little too. Do you know that she was a British lesbian dusty springfield? Yes, when you hear that She's like she's a black woman. Wait. I thought it was a No, no, she was a little white girl lesbian. That was her only hit I think ever That's dusty springfield and she died young She died in who remade the song at 60 no, that's the original's hers. Oh, it is I think people have covered it, but the the one that you know I Thought uh, what's your name redid it? I'm sure many have covered it, but like the the one that you hear still Is hers. It's her as well. Yeah, I'll read I guess a wreath. Oh jaw jaw Jostone it's a testament to the durability of her version that that's still the one. Amen Amen written the year I was born I think um Yeah, I just wonder like is there You got me spun up with the preacher stuff that I really you did well who said stuff like I'm trying to be a better Smith He's a pastor that I know did he speak up about it? Do you know him is he here? See if you guys oh yeah, dude is awesome. He's a great pastor. I just uh I just wonder if some of like the bigger like pastors spoke up about it or not I don't know and then that's when you start to think well am I wrong for you know What am I feeling what's going on? There's no public record of due to Smith the pastor and author speaking public About the conflict in Gaza however There's a different due to Smith a medical student who spoke about the impact of mystical strike on Siroka Medical Center in Israel, which may be a good source of confusion No public statements on the Gaza conflict from the pastor and lead at church home um But yeah, I mean people that they're different views, you know, and those are like I think it's just stuff I'm curious about and I don't know like enough about the Bible sometimes I think we have to say that Jesus is against killing innocence I just think we have to say that because what's I mean if we can't say that then what Can we say? Yeah, this is not a religion of violence. It's just not Do um What do you feel like about Candace is the the assassination attempt? Do you find there was a reality in that? I think that um I don't I don't understand it. I love I just want to say can I love Candace? She's coming tonight and uh Her kids are the best. I had known her a long time. Yeah, I go over there. Just like see her kids sometimes I didn't that's kind of weird or whatever it's not weird, but it's not weird. I don't have any children or or wife or anything So I go over there and uh Yeah, her kids are like as full of life as could be and they're all mixed kids and that's awesome and then like pretty kids Oh, dude, she has beautiful kids and her Georgia is funny, man I totally agree and then and but so I would say of the of the assassination I find you know, first of all I knew him well. He was right at my house right proves killed So I feel emotional about it still who was Charlie Kirk. Yeah. Oh really? Oh, yeah And uh and I love his wife and there was wife Well, and so I feel emotional about it. So you know, I just haven't wanted everything to do that But I will say a couple of things I don't understand the official story at all Uh, I don't I don't I don't understand it and I want to make sure that there is a like a truly rigorous and honest federal investigation of it and I'm definitely concerned about that a B The I think that um one of the I don't know many of the details But I know that uh recently Candace said that uh Egyptian registered aircraft were following uh, Erica Kirk Charlie's widow around for a number of years in different places in the world That's one of the weirdest things I've ever heard and I just want to say that that is factually true That's true So that's like the one data point that I happen to know is true What does that mean? I have literally no idea. I can't even guess but that's very very strange and what is Egyptian Egypt could mean aircraft from Egypt who knows I think that they were registered in Egypt got it and um So but that that fact is true. So I that enough Um and and it also her claim that you know there were Kind of a disproportionately large number of foreign registered cell phones at the event um, that's also true. So what is that add up add up to I don't know but it means that You know the FBI has a moral and legal obligation to to look in every direction and to be open-minded as you would in any Investigation in journalism and science. It's all the same process. I don't know the answer And I'm gonna sift through everything is open mind lia as I can as honestly as I can to get to what the truth is That's again that science that's law enforcement that's journalism. It's all the same. That's justice And I just want to make sure that is happening and I just don't have a ton of confidence in the FBI or the men who run it And I'm not saying that out of ignorance At all that's it scary part two I'm not alleging anything. I'm just saying I think it's really important that we have that Yeah, and also I've no I mean I never wanted to think it's like leaders of the FBI are on Twitter like what Oh the one to do you see the video that Tim Dylan did about the um no Does it makes me too mad but no I agree it's like And also here's the weird thing. I never wanted to think about any of this shit I never wanted to think that our FBI didn't care about us or that our CIA was compromised or that we couldn't try like You can't even call the police department out thinking that it goes directly to some other foreign lobby, right like so like and like I know like So it's weird that if people point fingers are like I never I just wanted to be I just wanted to try my best and fucking be alive like I know I'm saying like You're not like a weirdo just because your brain is trying to figure things out That's a brain's job. It's to try to figure things out. It's to try to make organization of things right Um, so it's just so crazy that people who are trying to figure things out are getting ostracized You know whether they're right or wrong or something at least they're trying to have some semblance of like curiosity Which is really just kind of reframing official story describing the murder of your friend doesn't make sense And you find yourself yelling at a podcaster for coming up with other theories You're you're barking in the wrong direction your Anger should be focused on the people whose job it is I'm legally Constitutionally to get to the answer and there's very little pressure on them. I noticed yeah Great deal of pressure on canisones and knives by the way I've said this to a bunch of people you know off the record of you know people who's talking to It's like I you know What canis is saying is is clearly causing a lot of turmoil? Is it true or not? I can't assess it. I'm not the FBI. I'm a freaking podcaster But I do know how the system works and it's really simple the FBI has This case and of course the state of Utah It's their job to not only find out what happened Presented to the public in a way that restores some confidence that you can like have justice In this country there be a functioning law enforcement. I don't have confidence in that because there's a lot of evidence So we don't have that so restore confidence by being honest and telling a story that makes sense So why and if they don't do that and they haven't done that they have not done that How can you be mad at canisones or anyone else For filling a vacuum that they left yeah Well again, this is but okay no the people with the authority are the ones responsible And they're the ones who should be held responsible when there's a failure Not some podcaster not me not you not can't us the people who's chop it is Talk about it. It's always that it's always like You know you you're you say well, I don't know why is real committing genocide and doesn't shut up the obonis like shouldn't you be mad at Israel for committing the genocide? Yeah, or shouldn't so why am I the one even asking about it? Exactly. I'm just a curious fucktard dude You know what I'm saying? I'm trying my best but fuck dude I couldn't agree more you know, I'm a guy who live with a 66 year old man to fucking chirp Boner pills off of them dude with respect Like a lot of these criminal investigations your story doesn't make sense ice dude so you We are ten years he was a four he was a four point out right that makes him sound kind of wholesome and normal He was my buddy's dad You live with him she can get free boner pills then he invites you into his bedroom in the dark with his girl to play Eric Clapton songs on an acoustic guitar and you don't think there's anything kind of freaky about that at all I think that's the most normal thing we've talked about all episode You know you're probably right really To put it in context yes I want to get you out of here soon because we want to get to your party tonight um What uh What is one of the things about the Charlie Kirk Assassination that rubs you the wrong guest do you feel like about the investigation into it? Yeah, I mean It's the whole thing with the kid and the images and they see him at like a dairy queen some of the it's just like It's also confusing you can't decide what to believe um, but what do you but also the fact that it doesn't factors any Presentation from the FBI or something about reality so it feels like it's just it's internet slush filling in all the pieces What do you think I've called directly to say that just as an American is a Friend of Charlie's who is interested in seeing uh justice and is interested in preserving our system beyond This year like if you want the system to continue You have to satisfy people the system is real and if they're convinced that it's not real at some point they'll overthrow it That's just gonna happen, okay, oh, but mom donnie. Yeah. How do you think we got mom donnie or and you think mom donnie's radical The dude went to boden It could be a lot more radical than that And we're gonna get that then we're sailing team there Because do they yeah the boden I thought it was ballad oin but it's not no it's boden Known really for sawdemy but also sailing. I didn't know that uh Incusious to high season they got one of the Top-rated varsity sawdemy teams in the country hard to starboard zine users, but anyway um Here's what I am concerned about To a lot of things one he acted alone tell me how that worked I don't you know none of us really act alone. It's hard to go anywhere by yourself too. Oh, yeah, thank you exactly You acted totally alone. Okay, you're gonna have to prove that to me. It's totally possible anything is possible Weird things have happened will continue to but if you're that's not my default assumption And it shouldn't be yours and they're default assumptions we acted alone really. Why do you think that? What about life suggests that people typically act alone? What was the last time you acted alone in anything? I don't go you know right so a b We know that people had foreknowledge of this because they posted about it on x and said Charlie Kirk is gonna be killed on this date And he was is that true? Yes, it's true. He were they just guessing was it a guessing thing or every day when he could maybe maybe Have those people been interviewed have they been hauled in to fb i hq and Had a long conversation with how they knew that like let's get really specific. Why did you post that? Who have you talked to like if I were doing this investigation because I spent my whole life doing non-criminal Investigations called journalism like what do we know is true? How do we find out call everybody be open-minded? It's like a very it's the same process If I was doing this investigation they would be at the very top of the list We know because we've got public postings on twitter that people know just like a 9-11 We know people bet against American Airlines and the banks that were in the world trade centers They shorted those stocks Those people clearly had foreknowledge of 9-11 who were those people we still don't know So I would start there, but so you're saying that just the fact that there could possibly be some foreknowledge should be invested There was foreknowledge because they were I saw the tweets and so they were I saw at least two That said, you know everything's gonna change when Charlie Kirk gets to The the college in Utah, okay, so those people I'm not saying they're a part of a conspiracy, but they have There's evidence that they had foreknowledge. Okay, so that's where you begin And then I could I could go on like tell me how this guy who seemed normal became a radical trans-free murderer It's not enough to tell me oh trans. I'm not pro trans by the way But was that the guy or his boyfriend? Well exactly exactly right tell me how this guy Became so radicalized that he murdered a stranger just to I'm not saying it didn't happen I'm saying I want an explanation for how it happened. Why wouldn't I? I agree? Oh, we can't talk about that because it'll you know Prejudice the jury pool really you're you've told the world that you have both a confession from him in his Ex-tos boyfriend and the murder weapon with his fingerprints on it I think you got a pretty solid case So why is it so difficult to just explain dude 9-11 the rubble was still Smoldering when if I was on television on 9-11 so I remember this very well people are instantly appeared Oh, that's this is Islamic radicalism. Here's where it comes from We're gonna invite this guy and from Columbia It's just written a book about it and like they the whole explanation was ready to go. Yeah This there's no even a tent which is both good and bad But there's no attempt to explain how this happened like it's That's the key question. We all want to know. Yes. I know Charlie Kirk just got was killed murdered by gunshot Got it saw it Why and they never want to tell you yeah was the kid on SSRI shut up or your Scientologist They immediately start name calling you. Oh, you can't just owns now No, yeah, but if you're just a curious person to know why your friend got killed Well, that's kind of what I am that's what I am right that's what I'm saying It's just it's a human person. Well, that's what Candace is so maybe so I have said from the beginning if you don't like what Candace Owens is saying why don't you call her and offer a more plausible explanation for what happened. Oh, she's bad She's bad. Okay. I mean, I like her a lot. I don't think she's bad But I love her actually but let's just stipulate she's bad, but why wouldn't you do that? Because I don't agree with some of the stuff that she the rabbit hole she goes down But I don't even know, but I like the fact that she likes to dig in the garden You know So it's like I like the fact that she's curious and that obviously if people weren't resonating With what she's doing then nobody would be paying attention But you know, how many places I go people come up to me and be like And I don't think they want to say something to me. They'll be like I love Candace Do you do I say what happened to me in Oslo this summer? I was with my family same in Fishtia Some people call it white Oslo as well. Not very white anymore. It isn't nope. Ah Slow But anyway, I'm in Oslo Norway And just for one that we were fishing them a good Oslo to fly out and I'm walking on the street with one of my daughters Tucker Carlson, I was like shit I'm gonna get yelled at in Oslo. Sky runs up to me. Tucker Carlson. Yes You know Candace Owens. I was like, yeah, he goes tell right lover And I texted Candace I was like that is fame when people come up to you just because of the reflected glory of someone you know Yeah, she so why do people like Candace so much? She's an amazing broadcaster. Yes Because they sense in her she might be wrong. Is she lying to me? Not on purpose They sense the purity of her intent that's the truth and I can say as someone is dealt with government officials my whole life I'm not vouching for everything Candace claims. I don't even know a lot of what she claims because I'm working other stuff and it makes me sad also But the point is Do I trust Candace more than I trust your average DOJ official? Are you joking? It's not even close to yeah, it's not even close It's not even close we can all be wrong But who do I trust to like try to tell the truth more Candace your average DOJ official Opposence to the spectrum. I'll just say that. Yeah Do you feel it's a scary time? Yeah, it's a scary time. It's like I remember when you were interviewing Putin Yeah, I remember thinking We may get some real information here, which is kind of a crazy And I'll just admit that I'll be like Dude, we might really get some information here set of all this BS like Russia was involved in making all these ads and all this thing We might really get some information here Yeah, well, you were right. It's 250. You came at noon, right? Yeah, okay. We gotta get you out of here damn That sucks. That goes your nap though. I don't nap you don't No, I'm dude. I'm flying them at least tomorrow. That's like 12 hours of peace for me. I'm just gonna eat hummus Are you flying on a commercial? I'm flying commercial. They have the best they have the best airline All right, I know that makes me an Islamist. I know I'm No, it's both for Danny Pearls murder for saying that but um Guitar airways is like the best airline. It just is I've flown in all airline Dude some of the best people over there. I'll I had a great time over there I would leave it for you and what I like about their country is they keep shit in line like you there's not a lot of Fucking BS over there. No one you can see what you want. It's more it's definitely more restrained in some ways Yeah, we could say get as well. Do remember you couldn't even say it the other day Well, I could say it because I'm American but like no, you're not allowed to spray paint public buildings there Sorry, you can't shit on the sidewalk You're not allowed to have sex in an ATM vestibule or smoke meth in front of other people's houses But you can say what you believe So there's a constriction of freedom in some ways. Yeah, well, especially like the other day So my gay friend calls me up. He's like dude. He wanted me to say f*** it to his friends on zoom, right? And I'm like, dude, what's your life like? Bro, I'm like dude. I'm not saying I just woke up. Wait, can we just can say you just said my my friend called me the day and he wants me to say F*** it to his friends on zoom. Yeah, he thought it would be cool. It's an amazing sentence Yeah, but it's like people are trying to say like well, you can't see this and that but it's like What do you want me to do in that instance? It's like my gay buddy calls me up and he's like dude A couple of my boys are over here. Trent's over here. Say f*** it for us and I'm like dude You know, and I just woken up right? I'm like, I'm not saying it like if I just woke up dude We're gonna ease into fact. It can't you can't just like go cold into f*** it. I've had this exact problem I'm not having my eyes open for So we can be up just like say f*** it and be like whoa whoa. I need a cup of coffee first Definitely do at least let me put on some sneakers You know like but that was it's like and then and also the fact that appears more than one say it It's a British word you guys started the word. I know. It's not like I asked him to say cunt I almost did because I think that's allowed you can say that well that's fair But it's a word as they say where I live they're both his words dude And I understand like not yelling at it somebody that's gay or like you know say you open your door And like two guys are like blowing each other in your front yard or something. I don't know that's when you don't say it That's when you don't say because you don't call the fact girl fat. Well, yeah You joke about the skinny girl being fat because it's a joke. Yeah, you don't yell fat You know, you're like hey fellas hit the road, right? You know, it's like Exactly dude like one time I walked behind a 7-Eleven there's a couple gay dudes back there One of them was at least gay and they were one of them was blowing one of them right so at least so who is gay? I don't know who is gay Yeah, that's yeah, no, sorry, just gay But yeah, I didn't ask right at that point No, but I was like guys come on, you know, and they were and one of them got into a car that had those um It was like a uh Honda Civic that had those it was around the holidays that had those Antler ears out the side yeah, and I was like that was that the guy blowing or getting blown I don't know which one it was, but that was the matters it matters, but that was the f***ing I think that was the get 100% But the antler ears yeah, but that was the gay guy. Yeah, so Anyway, I don't even know what did ductive Dude you are the Sherlock Holmes of gay 7-Eleven But my buddy the other day it's like now I'm the bad guy to a gay friend because I won't say that because I won't say that Over to his zoom at work, and I'm like dude, I'm not bad. You got a buddy calls all he needs you to do is say f***ing on zoom That's it. He's not asking for it. It's not alone That is the bill met a jail. You just want to just say f***ing on zoom and you're like no the one thing you want I deny you Dude, and I've said this before I think that a lot of people like gay people they should auction off the word Somebody can say it one time at a certain time everybody can buy a zoom pass to watch the person say it like you pet like say like um I'm trying to think of who but say uh Who's a good when Bert Reynolds is gonna say it tonight, right? He's gonna say it tonight at midnight And everybody can buy a pass to watch him say it, right? I love that But it doesn't I'm not insecure about this because I've worked around and loved gays my whole life Yeah, none of my gay friends are gonna be upset about this But you know what? They are the offenders. It's like they're like rappers with the N word. It's insane. You work with gay men like I can't do yeah, I can't even yeah the people that say but dude I think it's the same with the N word they should auction it off where people could like say if Angela Ingelli is saying the N word tonight at 1015 You know many people are gonna pay to watch and then the money goes towards Black causes and black culture pay-per-view profanity. Yeah, I love that You know why waste it right no, you're totally right. You know how many people she gets 30 minutes You can say it anywhere in there. She can do a little bit. She can read a book and drop it in Angelina Jolie's saying the N word I might actually pay the 2599 to see that dude who wouldn't no actually I know That's what I'm saying, but then then you're making so naughty. That's like a I agree But you're making money for your cause. He crimes only fans. Oh kind of yeah, but I think can you do that? I've never been an only fans obviously, but could you get an only fans of you like See the N word I mean I think you could do it dude if you could get George Washington's great grandson to say it What about that tonight? We got George Washington's great grandson bring him up We got George Washington's great grandson tonight at probably he's about I bet he's pretty old So at 715 p.m. He's like about 150 years old Oh George Washington didn't have any no we old drink. It's only the custuses. It's through his wife's family No, okay, he didn't but if his great great grandson is saying I'm gonna tap in There's no way if it's 699 here. I'm saying at 715 if it was Thomas Jefferson's black great great great great grandson I'd write exactly. I wouldn't as much there's no charge there But it's still if it's a little Asian guy or whatever who's been in a coma They know he's waking up at three at 430. He's gonna say it and mispronounces it. Yeah, I would I would pay for that It's crazy. I'm out of take that part out Anyway, Tucker. How do we stay like I'm sure there's moments where you've gotten down too far down the well Like if you look at some of this stuff too much it kids really it can get pretty negative. I'm out of the well I'm totally out of the well. I've like us. I'm above the clouds and it's always sunny there It's like I I feel so much better because I just concluded That everything you suspect is true. It's always been true. It was true in Rome It was true in every period in history and it's true now and the only thing this changes we lied to ourselves about it But now once you realize yeah, it's all true. I don't need any more evidence. I got it. I figured it out and The good things in life are still amazing and you can make a difference by telling the truth and when you do you become stronger in some supernatural way And there's just so much beauty and joy in life. I'm not gonna get bogged down In all the hatred. I'm not gonna take orders from Mark Levin and become a Nazi just because he calls me one. No Sorry Yeah, playing your games. Oh for sure. It's like people say stuff on the internet. It's like whatever dude um, but pivot against it be like yeah I Yeah, people will make funny free stuff or do certain things. It's like I don't care about it that much I don't care really what you call me that much. I mean already know things that I am you know I'm not great. That's for sure, but uh, but they never call you the things you really are He lived he lived with a dude who gave him free via agra I had to steal it. I had to eat you sneaking their needs some of it at night Um Tucker Carlson man. Thanks so much for your time. Dude. Do you think we're gonna get in trouble for any of this? I'm already I was already Voted Nazi of the week by BB or something. I don't I don't care. It's a lie and if you spend your life you don't seem like a Nazi to me at all man No, not a Nazi, you know, and I'm not gonna become one Yeah, dude. I would notice if you started not seeing a little bit. Yeah, you know It's a little too rigid for me just temperamentally also I don't like take clothing at all. I can't stand to be ordered. You look good in green though Um Look before you leave Tucker I just want to play this for you. Do you mind? Do you know I'm getting wood listen to it. It's just you know, I'm thinking like maybe I do invite Fia over Just middle of the night and bed with my wife. It's totally dark all of a sudden they hear the the notes It's because I couldn't make rent sometimes. I always I think he was thinking of any way I could have I get it You're young. You needed the money. I've heard this before Hey, dude those erections those are caused by Alps you know that don't you? Yes, they are The pouch for your mouth Um Tucker Carlson. Thanks so much man and thanks for inviting me to your get together I'm excited about it and I'll see you later on anything else you wanted to talk about nope All right, appreciate your best. You're the best. Thank you. You're up. Stay safe You Kelly Brook is Betways casino ambassador and for all new customers stake 20 pounds and get 150 free spins download the Betways 18 plus Tisnes. He's applied bet the responsible way gamble away to talk