Nightcap Hour 2: Steph Curry to Play on MINUTE RESTRICTIONS vs Clippers + LeBron SPEAKS on PLAY-IN Tournament + Pelicans make Zion Williamson OFF LIMITS + Nick Wright LEAVES OFF Steph Curry on Best Guards List
73 min
•Apr 15, 2026about 2 months agoSummary
This episode of Club Shay Shay's Nightcap Hour covers NBA playoff implications including Steph Curry's minute restrictions, LeBron James avoiding the play-in tournament, the Pelicans' commitment to Zion Williamson, and criticism of Nick Wright's top-10 guards list that excludes Curry. The hosts debate player rankings, training philosophy, and respond to viewer questions about relationships, fitness, and entertainment.
Insights
- Steph Curry's exclusion from a top-10 all-time guards list despite being a 4x champion, 2x MVP, and Finals MVP represents a significant credibility gap in sports media rankings
- LeBron James at 41 years old must now carry a Lakers team without elite supporting talent, requiring 37-40+ minute performances similar to his 2018 form but with diminished physical recovery capacity
- Zion Williamson's unfulfilled potential stems from commitment to training regimen and nutrition discipline rather than raw talent, requiring lifestyle changes comparable to elite athletes' dedication
- Long-distance relationships can succeed but require intentional communication and commitment; absence alone doesn't guarantee relationship longevity without active effort
- Professional athlete success requires separating training (pushing through discomfort) from working out (going through motions), a mindset distinction that separates elite performers
Trends
NBA playoff intensity forcing teams to abandon minute restrictions on star players despite injury recovery concernsGrowing recognition that player rankings must account for era-specific impact and rule changes (three-point shooting revolution)Athlete development increasingly dependent on personalized nutrition and training infrastructure investment ($1-2M annually for elite performers)Play-in tournament evolution creating strategic advantages for higher seeds while forcing lower-seeded teams into high-intensity elimination gamesMedia credibility challenges when subjective rankings exclude consensus all-time greats, impacting analyst authorityLong-distance relationship prevalence in modern dating requiring different communication frameworks than traditional courtship modelsWNBA developmental player integration creating pipeline for talent development without immediate salary cap impactCollege football coaching carousel with high-profile hires (Lane Kiffin at LSU) creating portal recruitment advantages
Topics
NBA Playoff Minute Restrictions and Injury ManagementAll-Time NBA Guards Rankings and Steph Curry's LegacyLeBron James 2024-25 Season Performance ExpectationsZion Williamson Development and Pelicans CommitmentPlay-In Tournament Strategic ImpactProfessional Athlete Training vs. Working Out PhilosophyLong-Distance Relationship SustainabilityWNBA Developmental Player IntegrationCollege Football Coaching and Portal RecruitmentAntonio Brown Hall of Fame CandidacyUsher and Chris Brown Tour AttendanceNFL Draft Preparation and Player EvaluationFitness and Nutrition for Weight ManagementJob Satisfaction and Career TransitionsSports Media Ranking Credibility
Companies
Golden State Warriors
Steph Curry placed on minute restrictions for upcoming Clippers game due to recent injury recovery
Los Angeles Clippers
Facing Warriors in must-win playoff game with hosts predicting Clippers victory
Los Angeles Lakers
LeBron James team facing Rockets in playoffs without elite supporting talent, requiring 37-40 minute performances
New Orleans Pelicans
Executive Joe Dumars confirms no intention to trade Zion Williamson despite injury history and unfulfilled potential
Atlanta Hawks
Hosts discuss Hawks' playoff positioning and potential matchups in Eastern Conference
Charlotte Hornets
LaMelo Ball's team mentioned in context of playoff play-in tournament games and player minute loads
Miami Heat
Referenced in discussion of play-in tournament games and player minute management
Detroit Pistons
Mentioned as playoff matchup opponent in Eastern Conference bracket discussion
Philadelphia 76ers
Discussed in context of playoff seeding and play-in tournament implications
Phoenix Suns
Portland Trailblazers defeated Suns 114-110 in playoff game discussed at episode conclusion
Portland Trail Blazers
Seventh seed team defeated Phoenix Suns 114-110 in playoff game
Orlando Magic
Competing for eighth seed against Philadelphia 76ers in play-in tournament
LSU Tigers
Lane Kiffin hired as head coach with significant budget and portal recruitment strategy discussed
Ole Miss Rebels
Lane Kiffin's previous program where he built successful offense with portal recruitment
People
Steph Curry
Two-time MVP and four-time champion excluded from Nick Wright's top-10 all-time guards list, sparking debate
LeBron James
41-year-old star avoiding play-in tournament, discussing need to carry Lakers team in playoffs
Zion Williamson
Star player with injury history and unfulfilled potential; Pelicans confirm no trade intentions
Nick Wright
Created controversial top-10 all-time guards list excluding Steph Curry, sparking on-air criticism
Joe Dumars
Pelicans executive confirmed no intentions to trade Zion Williamson despite trade inquiries
Steve Kerr
Warriors coach implementing minute restrictions on Steph Curry for injury management
Lane Kiffin
Newly hired LSU football coach with significant budget and portal recruitment strategy discussed
Antonio Brown
Discussed as most disrespected player in NFL history; eligible for Hall of Fame consideration
Usher
Touring with Chris Brown; hosts discuss attending concerts and ticket acquisition
Chris Brown
Co-headlining tour with Usher; hosts discuss concert attendance and ticket access
Shay Shay
Primary host of Club Shay Shay podcast and Nightcap Hour segment
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
Former pro bowler and current Nightcap co-host discussing sports and lifestyle topics
Joe Johnson
Seven-time NBA All-Star from Atlanta Hawks, current Nightcap co-host
Quotes
"Steph Curry, a two-time league MVP, a finals MVP, a four-time champion and he ain't even a top 10 guy. Even if you just put it, even if it's just for the sake of argument... The mere fact that Steph Curry isn't on this list."
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson•Mid-episode discussion of Nick Wright's rankings
"I am happy because being a participant of the fucking play-in tournament for some years that I get to sit back on my couch with my wine, knowing I don't have to play in the weekend."
LeBron James•Play-in tournament discussion
"They eat for pleasure. I eat for survival. That's why you can't beat me. You can't."
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson•Zion Williamson training philosophy discussion
"Who changed the game more than one step in the Wardell Curry? Hadn't been many, hadn't been many fellas. They shoot the three because everybody's shooting the three."
Shay Shay•Steph Curry impact discussion
"It's hard damn work to be good at something. It's even harder to be great at it. Everybody wants to go to heaven. But don't nobody want to die."
Shay Shay•Work ethic and dedication discussion
Full Transcript
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I guess he said, because I got the Clippers winning that game. You don't believe them boys over there in the bay, huh? I said I got the Clippers. Now man, you can continue the bet if you want to. No, no, no, I ain't got no horse in that race. I mean, if you think about it, the Charlotte Hornets in Miami, they went to overtime and Miles Bridges with overtime played 43 minutes. Lamello Ball played 40 minutes. They played the most and then you got Miami, Andrew Wiggins had 42, Khalil Ware had 42, Dave Young Mitchell had 48 and Harman Hawke has had 41. So I hope in a regulation game, if he doesn't go overtime, they play fewer than 40 minutes. Yeah. I mean, Steph don't normally play that many minutes. Steph has really never played no major minutes because they were so concerned about his ankles, Joe. They obviously come post-season time, all bets are off. But I guess they say, look, coming out the knee injury and dealing with what he's dealing with, he's getting on up there and they say, you know what, we're not going to even chance it. Right. Because Steve Kerr knows the intensity that those guys going to have to play with tomorrow to even win the game. He know how physical that game going to be. Right. You know what I mean? And with Steph just coming back, you don't want them to re-aggravate nothing, but at the same time, hell, if you want to continue to keep playing, you're going to need that man on the floor. For sure. Yeah. Even just his presence on the court opened things up for other players. There you go. There you go. I don't know if you got much choice, Steve. It ain't like you got, you know, Prime, Clay and KD out there so you can really dictate that Steph is only going to play 30 minutes. You ain't got them horses that can run like that anymore. Yeah. Nah, they going to have to get some great contribution for some of the other guys, you know, who been playing pretty, you know, pretty. Yeah, Pa's going to have to play really well. Yeah. Yeah. But the thing is, you know, they traded comminga, Moses Moody is hurt. I mean, maybe they got to get some production from, they got another guy, a guy from Brazil that's been shooting the cover at the ball. I know. I don't be knowing them guys. I ain't going to buy it too. He's going to have to play really well for him. He's going to have to play well. LeBron's going to have to play really well for him. He's going to have to play, he's going to have to play really well for him. He's going to have to play well. LeBron spoke about finally avoiding the play in tournament this year. Let's take a listen to what Bron had to say. We have the plan. Yeah. I mean, it's going to be great. I am happy because being a participant of the fucking plan for some years that I get to sit back on my couch with my wine, knowing I don't have to play into the weekend. Are you not entertained? I'm not entertained. Just sit there and just like enjoy. I'll have one iPad with golf on and another one with the plan. Yeah, I would just be so excited. You got a week to repair and watch them. You get out to repair games. Yeah, watch and just like enjoy basketball. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, look, I know, I know he appreciate this because y'all remember when they first came over with this plan thing, you know, Bron. Yeah, Bron hated it. He wasn't he wasn't with that. Yeah. So for the past but he realized that had without the play in hell, I wouldn't even been in the tournament. So listen, what happened to the dislike turned into a blessing? Yeah. Yeah, because the past three, four years, they've been in the play in and yeah, I'm sure look, I'm sure he's happy. He get a chance to kind of sit back. But I think I think he does understand the challenges that's ahead of him, you know, and playing this rocket team without Luca and a are, you know what I mean? I've heard him talk on numerous occasions. Obviously talking about it's going back to like 2018, and where he kind of basically got to carry this team. I think he knows and understand that. So I expect to see aggressive LeBron, especially game one. I know normally he typically kind of feels people out feels teams out, but he ain't got time to be doing that on because they at home. They can't squander no games away. Right. And if he had one of them subpar games where he scored 12 13 14 points, they're going to get beat by 30. Yeah, it's going to be in trouble. Plus the thing is, Joe, you yeah, and we talked about that the other day about 2018, but he was 33 then. Yeah, yeah, it's a big ass different in professional sports from 33 to 40. Yeah, I think it's a big difference. But if it's anybody who could do it, I think we would all agree that LeBron could do it. I think given the fact that I know he's 41, but his body is in great shape. This week of risk, I definitely think it's going to help him. Yes, I mean, because he's going to have to play big minutes to he probably going to be at 40 minutes tonight. Easy. Yeah, he definitely more than the 34 minutes that he probably average. I think he probably average the fewest minutes that he's played in his NBA career. Yeah. So yeah, you he's going to be somewhere north of he definitely going to be. I think he has to be north of 37 38 minutes. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. No question. No question. Hopefully they can they can keep that thing afloat when he's not in the game. But that's the most part. Yes, he can. I think the biggest difference between a young great player because when you're great, they don't compare you against other great players. They compare you against your younger self. You see we did. Oh Joe Joe. Yeah, we didn't say anything. We said LeBron 2018. Yeah, we didn't say we didn't say nothing about any other great player. Well, he needs to be like Jay LeBron. He needs to be like Yolkich. He needs to be like Shay. We compared him to a younger self. Yeah. And that's what the greats get compared to. They don't get compared compared to the other the greats playing now. You compare them to a younger version of themselves. Yeah. When you're a younger version of yourself, you know what you can do. When you're a younger version of yourself, what you're you 20 you give you give to them 12 back to back to back. Now you hit him a lick and a promise. I hear you get your lick today. I'm gonna get you tomorrow. That's what I got for you. I ain't got what I used to have. Hey, you might not even get that boy. Hey, I got a spade hand, Joe. I got two of the possible and this might get cut off the real. If you do it, everything that you told me you would do is cut. Yeah. Right, right, right. It's what it is. And so that's what LeBron. That's what LeBron. Yeah. Can LeBron go 30? Yes. Did you see what he did when he was in Detroit when he was young and he gave him 28 straight. He gave me he scored 28 and 29. Oh, you saw what he did. What was that 20 what year was that? 2018 when he had that game against Golden State. He did one in the first game. Yeah. And he like he couldn't do anything. It just gets hard to sustain. That's the thing. You know, when you were in your 25, 27, Joe, bounce back like that. Yeah. Hey, quick. Snap back. Man, you get 35, 37. Hey, look, that's when you start talking about shit. I got started eating right. I got started. All that coming to play. You can't be messing around. Hey, everybody else y'all happy. Y'all anybody else going to do anything? They come out here by my damn self. Please. But hey, like you said, Joe, if anybody can have that type of game with the mere fact we're having this conversation, we're asking a 41 year old to turn back the hands of time. Hey, if we if we if we didn't think he could do it, we wouldn't we wouldn't be, you know, putting this on his shoulders. I know he's capable for sure. But the thing you're Joe, you're going to ask him to do it potentially seven times. Yeah. Yeah. I understand that part, but I think this role that he's in right now, this is the role he's most comfortable in. Okay, Ocho, to where he's where he's the facilitator, you know, can score when whenever he want to. But you know, him finding guys getting guys wide open shots, making sure guys in the right spot. This, this is the LeBron that I think that that he enjoys being that magic is kind of guy but a guy who can really put up big numbers offensively. And I think he likes being underdog too. Ain't nobody really given them a chance. Yeah. No question. Go back and look at the series they play Toronto and you look up and look at the series when they play the Hawks or when they play the Celtics. That they do it. Y'all y'all y'all y'all y'all even do nothing. And here he goes LeBron also said he wants the Lakers versus Celtics finals finals that'd be crazy. I had a lot of Celtic series when I was in the East. They don't quite like me either. And for him to be talking about the finals, well, yeah, he got some juggernauts over here in the West and come with you. No, I mean for him to get to the finals they're gonna need a they need a like a 28 year old Kareem or a 27 year old Shaq and bring along a rest his soul passed on Kobe. They need him by himself. They're not coming at these. Hey man, you hear what he said he the man said what he said he wouldn't mind seeing the Lakers and Celtics. It sounds like it sounds like he got some up his sleeve. Yeah, that's all I'm saying. Whatever I wouldn't mind having my the the hips that God gave me. But you know what I ain't got them. And so I take what I got. He get that Lakers Celtics match if he play NBA 2k he got he get it. Yeah, hey, this that this this what he need he need he need he need doubt like this he need people to doubt him. Yeah, they get him going this will brought me right now. Spring is starting at the Home Depot and bringing you everyday low prices so you can wake up your yard this season. Shape up your lawn with top brand outdoor power tools like Ryobi 40 volt mowers that have up to 50 minutes of runtime. Bring in a splash of color with spring blooms and fresh plants from the Home Depot Garden Center. Then refresh your garden beds and keep them clear of weeds with Earth grow mulch five bags for $10 to make your yard feel like new. Start your spring with low prices now through April 2 only at the Home Depot. Exclusions apply see Home Depot dot com slash price match for details shop now. 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Let's take a listen to what he had to say. And even when you say no to people like no when that moves on within two hours it's out that yeah you had conversations about trading for Zion and so listen we we have no. Intenses of doing that. You know we're going into the offseason looking forward to Zion coming back next year and playing great again next year but yeah you know these phone calls come in and you know people ask about a player and you say no and then two hours later it's like yeah they had a conversation about playing. I'm going oh that's true but you left out maybe the most important part which is we said no you know. You also later said Zion and Derry Queen need time to jail together like Jaylen Brown and Jason Tatum did. No you can't you can't let. First off I don't even know if they got any draft because I know the Hawks got they they picked this year the house got the pelicans pick this year so if it's a top four top pick the house got that so maybe they don't have no pigs but. You can't let Zion leave New Orleans. Okay oh you know you know you know free agents is coming in no free agents coming there no top ones anyway so you got to keep you got to keep that star in place and hopefully you know y'all figure figure it out here sooner or later. You don't think they're moving. Yeah I think they will. Anything coming from GM's owners. You know you take that with a grain of salt especially when it comes to business. But they're not going to what they're going to get that's going to be comfortable to have. I have no idea Joe but holding on to somebody that. I mean I have no idea Joe you would know better than me but I'm just saying when it comes to the things like this especially with players where. Obviously star player. He has an injury bug he hasn't been available you know for a lot for a lot of his career issues off the court at times you know here and there. I don't know is it worth it at this point still still great when he's healthy always we want the best but easily. But what we expected him to be coming out of college he hasn't lived up to the hype. Well I think when he does play he gives you he gives you great production. Oh yeah. But it's just sometimes you don't know when he's going to play. But when he's on the floor you get great production from you know. He's strong Joe. I think I think he could be a I think he could be way better than what he's showing actually I just think there's another level to you know his regimen that he has to add which is you know obviously. Training harder eating better you know because if he come in into into some real shape I can also you got to think. Can't nobody guard this man already as it is right now. No if that man made his mind up that he wanted to be a top five player in his league. I think he can easily do that it'll take some work but I think he can easily do that. A matter of fact I'm disappointed in that I thought he'd be a better he should be a double double guy. There ain't no way he should be a 2010 guy. I agree. No way no way in hell he shouldn't be a 2010 guy. Right. To athletic to too much talent. He Joe he is a more athletic Charles Barkley. If Charles Barkley could be a 2010 guy. Charles Barkley can lead the league in rebounding the shortest guy to ever lead the league in the rebound at six foot four. Ain't no way it helps I am Williamson can't get to rebound the game. I know that's at the minimum. Yeah I know I think he can definitely do that. I think the most underrated part of his game to me on the ultra is his ball handling ability. The ball man away how is the ball like can't nobody hit size or taller. They can't stay in front of them they can't guard them. That's why I say he's like a cheat code. And if he ever make his mind up that he wanted to be one of the best ever played his game bro this would be a scary sight. I agree. But you when you say you you said something you heard what he said. Yeah if he makes his mind up. Yeah everybody's wanting him to make his mind up. He has to do it. Yeah one and form he got to one of himself. I'd have been had me or chef. Man I'd have me or chef. I'm in Norway. This is what I need to eat. I wait this much. Hey make it taste good. But I need you to I need a cooking every meal. I spent I mean I spent I mean as a professional athlete making that kind of money. You should be willing to spend a million two million dollars on your body. Yeah. Did y'all have a ship pay your back. Did y'all have a ship when y'all when y'all was playing. Did y'all have a show. Sure did right at Waffle House. Sure did. Oh you had a show. No I had somebody I had a when I was home whenever Atlanta I had a this company that would prepare my food. Oh yeah. And then you know had my lady would cook. I'm simple. I don't like I said give me chicken breast brown rice. Some green beans man it's bland. Okay. Yeah. See the difference between see this is why no one could train like I could because I know they eat they eat for pleasure. I eat for survival. There you go. That's why you can't beat me. You can't. Hey that's a bar. They even for pleasure you eat for survival. Okay. I like that. So that's why I was that's that's why I was that that's what my mind said. So they're not that's that's why I know they're not they're not gonna do that. They're not gonna eat. They're not gonna eat the same thing every every day for 90 days. Right. That's all they're not. They're not. You're not gonna go you're not gonna go two three days without even food. You're not gonna go a day and a half without drinking water. I ain't telling what I could do. I'm telling what I did do. There you go. So that's what I said. They be talking all that be talking to you can't because you you don't you I because I already know you're not gonna you're not gonna push yourself like that. You're not gonna go to see I'll go to a place that's uncomfortable. Pull up a chair and get comfortable. Yeah. Yeah. I know what it's like to get into that hurt locker. Yeah. They're not getting that hurt locker. They were talking. They will get in that hurt locker. I'm being here for a while. See a man that's been to hell. He don't care about going back. Mmm. That's when you know that's when you know when you start to question yourself when you ask yourself why am I doing this. What am I doing this for how much longer do I have where the hell if I'm going when is this over. Right. I'm gonna go to a place that's uncomfortable. I'm gonna go to a place that's uncomfortable. I'm gonna go to a place that's uncomfortable. I'm gonna go to a place that's uncomfortable. When is this over. Right. Ask yourself though when you train. Ask yourself those five questions. If you don't ask yourself those five questions you ain't trained you working out. Yeah. There's a difference between the two. Mmm. I'm training because I want to be able to call on my body and know that it's been there in a go again. See a. If you haven't put your body through that how do you know what to do. Right. But you go work out you go do a little thing you look good. But see I'm training because when I call on my body see you call your body the first I feel good. Yeah. When you call on in the fourth quarter. Still feel the same way. Got nothing in the time. When you running on fumes. Why. That's the difference. That's a mindset. That's why I know the guys couldn't train. That's why they couldn't beat me when I played because I know they weren't doing what I was doing. It's the same thing now. What is your man. That's a man. That's all you do work man. When you get some time off. But you want you want your man up now. Hey, I tell people when they ask they ask me all the time Joe and no Joe man the part of man you know you got your thing with nightcap you got your thing with club. Shae Shae Blake's YZ. So what how do I that's an okay what what you're trying to do. Well I kind of want to set up like what you would know Joe got especially when I'm doing nightcap. But I want to set up like this I want a three camera system. I said well this is my camera that's your camera. This is the slide is going back and forth. X YZ I said bloom bloom bloom. I said look everybody everything is different. I said not for nightcap. I have people that only work on nightcap. Club Shae Shae people may you got. Yeah. Yes, but that's what it takes. I said after I'm done with you. I'm gonna go go and get on nightcap with Ocho and Joe. And then I'm gonna come back tomorrow and I'm gonna take somebody else and then I'm gonna go get on the nightcap with your just gotta a just tape again today. Tape yesterday tape the day before. Guess what I'm gonna get my black ass on a plane. I'm gonna get the Vegas. I'm gonna land. I'm gonna go in my garage. You do cardio and guess what I'm gonna get on nightcap with you guys. And then guess what I'm gonna do up Thursday. Guess what we're gonna do Thursday Ocho. We're gonna get on the damn podcast and we're gonna do WWE. Oh yeah. And we're gonna do it again on Friday. And guess what? Yeah. Basically it's work. That's it. Yeah. It ain't no secret. It ain't no secret. It's hard damn work to be good at something. It's even harder to be great at it. Everybody wants to go to heaven. But don't nobody want to die. Woo. Mmm. I don't see how once possible without the other. I mean but yeah, no we ain't gonna do that. We ain't gonna get to the Bible. 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That's redfin.com. Nick Wright revealed his 10 best guards of all time. He got Michael Jordan in the number one slide. He got Magic Johnson in the number two slide. And then he got Kobe Bryant, Jerry West, Isaiah Thomas, Oscar Robinson, Dwayne Wade, Shay Gildes, Chris Paul, Bob Cousin. Joe, do you believe those are the 10 best guards of all time and do you like the order? Would you rearrange some things? Oh, this is an order, huh? Yes, that's the order he has them. This is a pretty great list, pretty good list, fellas. So one is in two. Yep, you got points and two guards. Damn, you ain't got no AI? You got no AI? He ain't got Harden? Ain't no Steph Curry? See, I'm done with this list. I'm saying who you taking out? You taking out one of my old students? I'm gonna take out damn dare but except the top three. Steph, a two-time league MVP, a finals MVP, a four-time champion and he ain't even a top 10 guy. Even if you just put it, even if it's just for the sake of argument and that's what we do sometimes, we argue, we call it debate, we call it sparring or whatever you want to call it. The mere fact that Steph Curry isn't on this list. Yeah, yeah, that's a tough one. That's what we do. Ain't no James Harden? I mean, they there. Ain't no J.K.I.D. I don't know. Like I said, without Steph Curry, I don't even want to, hey, hey, hey, and everybody, hey, congratulations to everybody that made it. We know Jordan Magic and Kobe. I don't really thank you. I mean, hey, Steph Curry said, hey, hell, if I ain't a top four, if I ain't a top three, who the hell is? But the mere fact this man didn't even make the list. Hey, Nick, come on now. Come on now. Come on now. Come on now. Hey, look, I'm gonna tell you something. No, Shay gonna be stamped in here though. Yeah, he gonna, he gonna stamp himself in there for sure. Long as he stay healthy, he gonna be all right. Bro, who changed the game more than one step in the Wardale Curry? Hadn't been many, hadn't been many fellas. They shoot the three because everybody's shooting the three. Kid used to be kids who on the dunk had a tongue hanging out like Michael Jordan. Now a little ass kid can barely throw the, they taking the ball with one hand, trying to shoot a damn three. Because they're too big, they're too small to shoot it like a normal person. They just chunking the ball. Yeah, yeah. I wonder what Nick used to come up with his list. Oh, is it just, is it just what, is it, is it personal? Moonshine. Flocker. He don't know nobody know Moonshine on. Okay, well, Flocker. Flocker? You talking about Flocker? Flocker, no, Flocker. What's that on? Google it. Flocker, F-A-L-A-K-K-A, Flocker. Hey, hey, the man in title to his own opinion. Nah, you can't even get no opinion with that step on there. Now, if you want to, if you, look, I would give you the, I would concede that, Joe. If you said, you know what, step number eight. I said that's his opinion. But to lead the man off the entirely. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I agree with your list. I agree with your list. That ain't couple. What did he say, yo, Joe? He said, F-A-L-C or double K, huh? Double K. Flocker. The bad sauce. You know bad sauce, huh? Yeah, I heard about that. I remember that some dude took bad sauce here in Miami and, and hate the man face. You remember that? What? Yeah, you remember that, Joe? Yeah. It was a while ago on South Beach. Yeah. Well, that's what that Flocker had you do until then you asked, you say, what do you use to get this list, Joe? That's it. Highly addictive synthetic stimulant. Okay. Okay. Oh no. Damn. They got so much great stuff for you. Hey, and I know him to get people to benefit of that for the list. That's because that's their opinion. But for you not to have Steph Curry on one of the top, he didn't say one or two. He said 10. So in other words, he found 10 guards better than Steph Curry. Let that sink in chat. 10 guards better than Steph Curry. That's, that's, that's tough. 10, not three. Not three. If you want to say, you know what? For magic, Kobe and Jordan, I just couldn't put him on there. Okay. I don't agree, but okay. I will, I will get, I will just say, oh, Joe, Joe, I give you that, but you found seven other guys. Yeah. That's like you like, okay, oh, Joe, I will name 10 quarterbacks, but Patrick Mahomes ain't in the top 10. And the devil is alive. That's what I'm saying. Bam, look here. I'm just, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. How, how do you keep, how do you keep a four time champion? A two time league MVP and a finals MVP and he's, he ain't no arguing, ain't no debating. He's the greatest shooter we've ever seen. He forgot, he forgot still. Oh, he must. Okay. Yeah. He forgot. What about the editor? Whoever, whoever like a bro. Are you sure you want to post this? Yeah. Bad please. And a lot of our tanks, me and Nick, we kind of see things a lot the same. But Nick, you and you on this one, Jack. No, sir. Y'all agree with that? Y'all fake, y'all fake stuff? Another top 10 guard? No, he should have been on that. He should have been on them for sure. I know Chad ain't going for that. Yeah, I was, whew. All right. It's time to play or fade presented by prize pigs. The first one is Paulo, ban Kettle, 13 and a half rebounds and assists. So you could buy these rebounds and assists. He'll have more than 13 and a half. Damn. Paulo be tripping sometime. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Paulo was on one this year. But he got this do or die. I'm going to get Paulo to benefit out of that. I'm going to say, I'm going to say, yeah, he going to say he be over rebounds and assists. I think yes. Yeah, he be over what you got. Oh, you say he's going to be over. Yes, sir. I mean, all right, for the moment for the game, the light, the lights on the light. You have to be. You ain't got no choice. Tyrese Maxie more 1.5, 3.5 field goals more. So you'll have at least two. Yeah, yeah. MB they ain't playing neither that boy be out there like AI when MB they ain't playing. All right. All right, we going more. We going more with Tyrese Maxie in the Clippers Golden State game. Better Vic Matlin. At least he'll have more than 11 points. I like, I like Matthew and two. I like him too. I say, I say he'll have more. I say more. Yeah, because he come in gunning now. Yeah. He come in and looking to get his shot. All right. The four, the guy that we just mentioned that we thought he should be a top 10 guard in NBA history. Yeah. But Stefan Wardell Curry will have at least 26 and a half points more or less than 26 and a half. Joe. Hey, is he still coming off the bench or he's starting now? He back start. Yeah, they better start that man. Uh, shoot, even if you were coming off the bench, Joe, he getting 26. You think so, Ocho? Well, he got to get to a joke. They don't have a chance to win the game without him getting at least 30. They don't win it, Joe. Got to. Because somebody got a match. Somebody got a match. Why they got no answer for Kauai. Yeah. Okay. I guess we're going more with Wardell. Yep. We're in unison. $25 to win $125. I'm going to download the after day use code Shannon to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup prize picks. It's good to be right. All right. Our final segment of the evening is time for Q and a. All right. Before we get to our super chance, we've got six video voicemails from our discord. Listen to the first one. What's up? Oh, Joe. I so and still. Oh, Joe. Yeah. You see it, bro. Got them trash heat up out of here. Hey, I so what I need you to do is I need you to go ahead and make sure Ocho don't score nothing. Todd, all this capping he'd be doing and then make sure you beat the breaks off of him. You know, he still got to do the show. So not too bad. And then after that, make sure you put that crown back on, baby. Let's go. Hello. Hello. Hey, I got you. Hey, I got you partner. Don't you worry about it. I'm going to hold it down. Yeah. One thing, one thing about it, boy, he asked you to do a whole lot of things. You ain't got the chance to do it. Hey, he asked me. He asked me to do nothing that ain't possible. The hell he ain't. It don't even sit right on you, bro. You false claiming too. Out here. Nah, listen. I was my crown like T.I. with his hats. Don't worry about it. That thing caught to the side, huh? Talk to the side, huh? We can't let that man game be false claiming like that. But don't worry, because for me and you play, I'm taking that crown. You can never wear it again, partner. Hey, I already told you what's going to happen to you, Joe. Hey, Joe, you can say you a false prophet out here. Hey, Joe, I done studied the film. You done studied it? I done studied them. I know every move. I know what he going to do when the ball is left hand. I know what he going to do when the ball is right hand. I might even trip him. All right, let's take a listen to the second one. Man, what's up, Arkan Ochoa and still King Iso. My bad. Randy here again, AK Boogie from Oklahoma, man. My bad. I'm here again, man. Yo, let anybody from Oklahoma tell it, man. Katie could have went anywhere else. He could have went anywhere else, man. Just not the team that you lose to, man. Like, come on, dawg. Like what? That's just like how Paul Pierce was talking about Ray Allen when they lost to Miami and he go join Miami. Like, not that team, dawg. Not that team, man. And if you let any party else tell it, man, from Oklahoma, Katie a cupcake for leaving, bro. And it's not even that he just left, bro. It's just, bro, not them, bro. Not them. Yeah. Yeah, I think that's that's the biggest problem that a lot of people had. I agree. The fact that Katie and the Thunder had them had them boys down. Had them down. Well, they had them down three one, three one. And they came back in one and then you went and joined them. That's that's the most disheartening thing I think that you get from the fans and guys like himself talking. Here's our third one. Let's take a listen to what he had to say. What's going on? I ain't going to lie, man. You got to talk to the old partner, Stephen A. Smith about how he taught my heart. Like he trim. He got a whole city hot. He got the whole city hot. So get away. We're going to put it like this. We ain't done nothing he taught my. We're going to put it like this. Nicks. Twix. Them boys sweeter than a pixie stick. Pots and fire. That's your team. You got the house. You got the house winning the series. Yeah, yeah, I got the house with the series. I got the house winning the series. I think it's I think it's going to be a great test for him. I'm glad that we start on the road in Madison Square. That way we can kind of gauge the intensity of this matchup in this series. The highs going to be played because when you get home, when you get back here in Atlanta, we're going to be waiting. And we can't squander no games away here at home. We got to win all these games here in Atlanta. You know what I mean? Yes. So if we're going to have a mishap, let it be on the road. Let it be game one or game two. But for the most part, I think I think the squad ready. We ready. I like that. I like that. I believe Joe. Yeah, yeah, y'all already bet on this game. He got the he got the whole you got the next right. Oh, yeah, we're going to game. Yeah, absolutely. We going to be back game by game. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Here's our fourth one. Let's take a listen what he had to say. What's up? Oh, Joe, Joe. This is my second attempt. I'm there in home late jobs and currently at work delivering for target. But I watch all I watch every episode of nightcap and clubs. So I love both shows. All of my main source of athletic athlete news, athletic news. Because obviously I have all had backgrounds in sports. I love football and basketball. But I just wanted to ask how do y'all feel about how things are shaping up in the Lane Kiffin era at LSU and oh Joe, who they nation, baby, which it gets on. Yeah. Who they, who they. Oh, look, they gave him a King's ransom. They paid him big time. They paid him big time money guys. They gave him what 20 plus million dollar budget to bring in guys. You know, you get the number one tackling in the portal from Colorado. The one thing we know about Lane Kiffin, he coach offense. You can say whatever you want to say about him. He jumps around. He blah, blah, blah. You know, I get all that stuff. And there's some alittiness to a lot of because think about it. What is welcome to USC, Tennessee, you know, been a damn near every school in the SEC, but can he coach 1000% 1000% he got old man. Let me look. Old men's got to the college football playoffs. Ain't nobody saw that coming. Yeah. Ain't nobody saw that coming. Now they did win games without him, but he was, he was phenomenal. He's phenomenal. And I think they're going to be phenomenal with the, with the first thing about what he built Ole Miss into. Unless you get way better talent guys. We, we, we, we finish the thing. Oh, Ole Miss get the same level of talent. No, they don't. And guess what? We guys jump in the portal when he see the way that he call off. If you're an offensive guy, quarterback, wide receiver running back type, why would you not want to go play for Lambkiff? And if you, you know, you're unhappy with where you are, right? No, what, how he call up plays. Mm hmm. Man, please. Hey, that's why I receive a U over there. Yeah. I mean, you, you look at what he look at a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a , ya'll planning, but ya'll ain't tryin' to invite Ocho in the rest of da family. So, I'm 6. That's what brother Ocho've called ya'll. So, I wanna know how ya'll've met Ocho've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've've behavior. Hey, as a matter of fact, a uncle Joe, I think I should come to the party anyway, because Joe, I didn't pay my debt. I paid you before the before the game, we even played and boom, I am you up a hundred. No, but I tell you, that's junkie. That's junkie. You know, I don't know why you would do that. Why would you do such a thing like this? Just just to show you, I pay my debts. Now, you know, me and uncle more reasonable. You know what I mean? Like, you you you like a wild child. You know what I mean? Like, we have to keep an eye on you, man. You know what I mean? What's wrong with being a wild child? We got to keep an eye on you. That's why you need me there at the party. Well, what we're gonna do, oh, Joe, is that we're gonna get you all the information kind of like Juneteenth. Because what happened is slaves were already free. Right, right, right. But when they got the real news, three years later. So when you when you and since about this party, it's gonna be much later. It hasn't messed up, man. Hey, man, listen, you had first deals, bro, you kind of messed it up. So now you're like fourth deal. So like, by the time we tell you, probably probably been the start it already. You know, yeah, I I well, I I we'll be probably be about two, three parties in a listen. I tell you what, I tell you what. So now y'all y'all have a party and don't invite me. I'm telling you, well, y'all y'all y'all I'm gonna have to put that shiesty on now. You ain't what you want. Here's our fifth. Here's number five. Let's take a listen. Uncle, oh, Joe, King Iso, what's up? Wanted to show you all much love from Toronto, Canada. And our reason I wanted to send this video in is a few episodes back. You all were talking about running marathons, that sort of thing. So I'm actually a marathon runner myself. This is from the last marathon I did in Philadelphia. And the reason I'm sending this video in is because this year, Chicago marathon, I'm going to be running that marathon, but I'm doing it to support a charity called Girls in the Game to get young children, young girls that is involved in sports helps them teach life skills, helps them build the confidence, all that sort of thing. So I wanted to issue a challenge to my man, oh, Joe, because I know he got wheels on him. I know he fast. I know we got a daughter to run track and a little French fries. She's going to grow up to be an athlete. So we've got to support these women, support these children early. So I'm going to issue a challenge Iso to come out, run Chicago marathon with me. But if you can't run it, hey, I'll take a donation. 5,900. That sounds good to you. Much love to my boys. Let's get this running. Come on now. Yeah, he must be talking to y'all. There ain't no running for me. My running day is over. Man, listen, hold up, though. I got I got marathon runners who come to my yoga studio and that's how we talk about it. Running marathon. I said I was going to run one this year. But as soon as I get right, when we say the marathon was he's running Chicago. But he's running Chicago. Yep. He's in Chicago. Where he run in Chicago? They block off the streets. He's gonna have to catch me out here in the A someone. Yeah, you gotta get a Joe. How about you stick to what you call him? You stick to the Petrie roadway. You do that. Yeah, yeah, some light. Yeah. Give me like a 5K and give me like a petry of 10 K 6.2 miles. I can do that. I can do that. You know what I like to I've been I've been seeing a lot of especially on Instagram's. A lot of people. A lot of people part of run clubs. Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, run clubs in the cities. Yeah, I love though. You see the hills at you see them boys. You see what they be doing out here? The hills at ATL. What you do like for the marathon for the for the the petry roadway? No, I'm talking about it's a group. It's a group out here in Atlanta called the hills. ATL I think they be doing they running MP money frame mistaken. But they they run the hills in in the park. Do steps and all that are they be a must be in a P but we used to do that. Yeah, it'd be back. I'm trying to get out there. You try to do some Joe. Man, I got a couple people who be out there. I said I want to go out there and mess with them boys man. You know, I gotta I gotta get this old leg right. Yeah, go ahead and get it right. Let's focus. Let's focus on what's important. As soon as soon as you healthy. This is our sixth and final one guys. Let's take a listen. That was the last one. Okay. All right, she other folk 55125. Usher and Chris Brown just released a tour date and big three. Are you going to the concert and can your significant other go on stage and get with them and get fair chairs? Yes, she absolutely she absolutely can go. I don't know what you're doing. You're not you're not listening. Yeah, that's her decision. She can go and when she go, you know, I'm be at yeah, I'm on the way out of the door Joe on the way out of the door baby. And you said she woke up on that stage you gonna be here. Listen, you you you shouldn't have to say nothing. You hear me? You shouldn't even have to say nothing. Hey, but I do want to go though. I do want to go. They got two shows that Mercedes band on Joe. Yeah, I got to go check that out. Hey, Joe, you want to go we could double date. We get what we're going to do rent a suite get a suite or something. Now we're gonna be whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. See, there you go. There you go, Joe. No, no, no, we can't get no sweet. No, hell no, I'm on the floor. You on the floor. No, we're gonna keep we're gonna make this a personal thing. Everybody gonna bring a date. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, talk about it, Joe. Oh, yeah, so I can't go. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying? I was thinking about it. I was like, man, this is gonna be a nice day tomorrow. Great day for traveling. I don't want to go no way. Oh, Joe, hold on. They come into Miami. What you think somebody go? Hold on. Why am I going? They got two shows in Vegas. They got two shows in Atlanta. Why the hell would I come way to Miami to hang out with us? You don't want to hang out with us money? Huh? The tickets already gonna be high draft who ha know that I know I know us in Chris. We get tickets for free. Don't worry about it. They got they got me. I know Breezy too, but I wouldn't even want the tickets for free. So you just want to use one of the pages to be paying because you got man that man running a business man. That's that's the problem too many times man. Look here. Go to get free tickets from Justin Timberlake or Sam Smith or somebody like that. Hey, brothers. That thing. Hey, y'all know that thing gonna be a zoo too. Oh yeah. It's gonna be nice. Yeah. Yeah. I gotta go see that. Okay. I go with you. I don't want to hang with us, man. Should I come on down there? Man, I know Joe ain't going to die. Hey Joe, what's up, bro? You can introduce me to all your famous friends, man. You know, we can chill. Yeah, I ain't got no ain't got no famous friend. Oh, no, I pay. I mean, look, I pay for Beyonce tickets. We were three rolls. We were three, four rolls back. So yeah. And but the way she they way they had it is that like she had the runway like she could just like walk down through but we three rolls back. I mean, I'm talking about right smack down. And I guarantee you there was not a person in the rows in front of us that were over the age of 15. They were they were going crazy though. Crazy. I'm like, and I know what I play for the tickets. So I know your tickets come more than my tickets. They say no for them tickets boy. Hey, I already gave them them tickets. I already know. I'm waiting on that text. The tickets went on sale already. I think they just released a tour date today. Hey, Joe, I know I know my oldest. I'm waiting on them. That text message to come through because I know it's coming. He trying to get on some tickets. Any man, my kid. Oh, yeah, my daughters, my oldest daughter. Yeah, I forgot my daughter go water, man. I might have to take I might have to take Kayla to that. How no damn. Oh, Lord have mercy. Oh, yeah. And I know I know it's coming. I guess I gotta start saving like them old people say I gotta start saving my penis, Joe. You know, people thought this. Yeah. Yeah. I gotta start saving my penis. I gotta call. I know she already know because she her very first concert she ever went to was with usher. Yeah. Yeah. And she say, you know, open up for him. Kanye West. Oh, that's back in the day. Yeah. Yeah. Christopher Ammons good evening, night camp. I just quit my job after four year on staff. It was just too toxic. Name a time where the job couldn't keep you around. Also, it's harder to keep good workers or a good job. It's hard to be good, good workers. Yeah, yeah, it is. It's hard to get it's hard. It's hard to find good help. Hey, it's hard. Hey, it's all depend on who you hire now. Man, but but I'm saying to keep them. It's hard to find good help. Yeah. Hey, that's true. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, I'm brought you hope you got Chris. I hope you got something lined up, bro. What do you know, you know, just kind of my hair. It's tough. I hear man. Oh, same team. Boy, you get your night little job, boy. You want to hold on to it? Yeah. Yeah. That's how we grew up. Boy, you can leave no job. I think about you got something lined up. No, but you must stay there. You better stay on that job. They call it a piece of job. It ain't much, but it says be hell out of nothing. Sean Allen, what's up guys? My question is, do you think long distance relationship lasts longer than your local relationship? They can. They can. Yes. It gets hard to look at. Rather than you get hard when you used to being by yourself. Yeah. If you get used to being by yourself, a lot of things that your partner company do go get on your day of nerves. Yeah. I think I think it kind of depends because you know, absence make the heart grow fonder. Yeah. Yeah. It's because it's different. Like if you got somebody with you every day versus if you're only seeing them maybe once a week, once every two weeks. Yeah. Yeah. And we go, hey, when you're only seeing them every two weeks, once every week, boy, it go down. You hear me? Yeah. Yo, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It go down. Yeah. Hey, Joe, you from the country. Oh, Joe, don't know nothing about this, but you know, from the country, you get that old rock and you beat the dust out of it. Yeah. Yeah. You had to put that rug on the field. Hey, that rug. Dust fly everywhere. That's what you get when you see somebody once every two weeks. Thanks. Thanks. But yeah, I think it all depends. It all depends. Man, I saw, I was seeing this girl one time guys and I'm talking about she's like, okay, I see, and she wouldn't call. She literally, when you're like, you say, okay, I see you Saturday. She would not call until she's like, well, I already said, I'm going to see you. Well, we need to talk for. She got you. Yeah. Because I had never, I had never, I had never been in a situation like that. Yeah. I'm thinking like, you know, we talk doing it. You know, I ain't say we got to talk every day, but I'm like, hey, how you doing? What's up? But she's like, nah, I don't want to talk. I just see you. I just thought that was, I was like, nah, this ain't gonna work for me. It ain't gonna work for me, man. I'm like, what the hell? Yeah. I had, I had asked, is that normal? It's like, nah, I mean, but you know, hey, make you wonder, huh? Yeah. Yeah. But look, dating is different now. I mean, Joe, I think we all grew up at a time where we used to go pick the date up. Yeah. You go pick her up, go out to eat, go to the movies, go where you going to a concert, bring her back home. Yeah. Now it's Uber. They get a little black car. Everybody get a black car this day. Yeah. Everybody get a what? A black car, a black truck, black truck. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Got a little camera man. Like, where the hell is y'all going? Everything is a moment. It's a lot different, boy. It is. But yeah, it can work. If that's what you, do you want it to work? There you go. Do you want the long distance relationship to work? It'll work. If you don't, it won't. If you don't want the short distance relationship to work, it won't work either. Hey, with that long distance, boy, you gotta have some man communication skills though. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Yes. But anything takes work. You gotta work and stay together now. It's too easy to get separated. It's too many things to occupy both of you guys' time and mind. So this day, all this notion, oh, I'm gonna make him wait. I'm gonna make him wait. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Make somebody wait. Somebody else gonna be blowing the doors. Guess what? Somebody else won't make him or her wait. Just saying. Zayde Phenom. Phenom got served at dinner tonight. He was doing everything. Waiting tables, busing the tables, cooking the food, seating gas, everything. Yeah. Then he was cooking tonight. Man. Hey, show me some. Show me. Daniel Wells, Ocho, said his bingles lost the O5 playoff game because Carson got hurt. But really, that defense was just as bad being as it is now. And he still don't understand. That was still the best bingles team outside of the 2021 bangles. So the defense had nothing to do with it. T.S. Carlye's Detail Service. Oh, my grandpa lived till he was 90. Used to tell me I'm about as useless as a screen door on a submarine. Damn. You don't believe fat meat greasy. Don't worry about the mule going blind. Just load the wagon. Hey, that's a good one. That's a good one. That's an idea. Hey, don't worry about the mule going black. You just load the wagon. You running the ditch. Don't worry about that. The wagon loaded though. Right. You worried about that. Man them old people. That's how they talk though. I was going to say, speaking of submarine, hey, Joe, Uncle Joe, what do you call a dog in a submarine? What do you call a dog in a submarine? A dog in a submarine. Well, he won't come if you call him, but no, Joe, what you got? What is a dog in a submarine? A dog in a submarine. Is it a I don't know what Joe, a dog in a submarine. It's a subwoofer. A subwoofer. Have any warfare? How do you feel about developmental players being added to the WNBA? I think it's great chance for players to develop without affecting salaries. I like it. Yeah, me too. I think it's a I guess it's similar to the G League, but probably not as advanced, you know, but hey, look, the women's game is in a great space and place. I love to see these women sign these multi-year deals. Yeah, get that money. There are girls who I think could potentially play in the WNBA that may not be quite as ready right now, but right now developmental process, they'll be all right for sure. I like that. I like it. Which position do the Cowboys need to feel most if you were the GM and who would you take with the 12th and 20th pick? The question is, can you get that D in? What is it Blaney? No, from Miami. No, no, he from Texas Tech. Oh, stop, stop. The style, they won't be there, huh? No, no, not at 12 or 20. I would package them. I would try to go get a D in from Texas Tech. Oh, so you'll package them two picks and move up? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, we need we we we got to get somebody on that defense side, bro. I would I wouldn't I wouldn't move up on you wouldn't. No, I 12 and 20, but I go defense on both picks though. But they're going to be some good players. I'm quality. David Bailey, David Bailey. He did yellow. The edge, oh, Joe. Yeah, he calls the hell over there. Yep, he had 14 and a half sacks, three fourths, bumble, bumble recovery. Hold on, never with this passion. Yep. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, we need some heat coming on that cone. He ran a four five at 251 pounds, Joe. He ran a four five 40 with a 35 inch vertical 10 foot nine standing bro jump. Damn, big boy. One point one to one, six, two, 10 yards split. Now the boy be moving like that, man. Be that big. Hey, boys, you see that the guy that went to the HBCU, you see that he from Cameroon in Nigeria, six foot four 306. They ran four six. Oh, with the big, with the big quads. Yeah. Yeah, that's us. I saw our NBA goals in no order. LeBron, Kobe, MJ, Bam out of bail. Brandon Crowe, what's your advice when you have a heartbreak from the past so hard that you don't want to give anyone else a chance no more. It feels tough to find someone to start a family with even though I'm 22. Oh, family. It's about to be scary. Well, I thought you, boy, I thought you about to say you 42 or something. You been mad. You been mad. You got the boys. You know, man, Lord, I'm a 22. Hey, he's a little light after that first love that puppy love be hard though. Oh, Joe, come on. Do it. Do the same. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, to stay away from me. Yeah, man. Joe, man, you ain't even jumped off the front porch. Yeah. He's about family and marriage. Come on, man. Hey, man, you don't know what that man had done. Michael Sterling on them. All I need is one more chance. Take off my ask. I'll do what you ask. Live your life a little bit. Enjoy yourself, man. Enjoy yourself a little bit, man. See, the thing is, I'm getting the impression that oh, it should have been hurt so much. He numb to it. Hey, uncle Joe. No, no, come on. Hey, Joe, what's up? I ain't never been hurt, Joe. I always use common sense and logic. Oh, Joe. Always use common sense and logic, right? You can use common sense and logic and it's the best part. Joe, it ain't never your Joe. It's just your turn, Joe. I get all that, oh, Joe. No, you don't get it, Joe. I'm saying when you a puppy and you just getting involved, oh, Joe. I ain't no, no, man. My granddad ain't let me do all that, Joe. No, no, Joe, you're not going to convince me you ain't never been hurt with no relationship. It ain't possible. By who? It ain't possible. I don't know about who. I just know you like a little. I'm still, I'm waiting for y'all to tell me about who because I walk out the door quick. Yeah. No hesitation. And don't look back. Hey, it's even when you walk out the door. The reason why you walked out of the door was why because you invested that time. You invested some money. You invested something. Yeah. Yeah, y'all. Listen, no, it hurts my ass. Next. Real diggers. Hey, I'm six foot way to 46. I got the Gucci main bellic. And you guys give me dietary plan, the workout plan. Thanks. Congrats on two million subs. Yeah. You got a back six foot, two, 46. Bro, you got to back up from the table. I mean, back up from the table, bro. Back up from the what? Table. No, you got to be a little, you got to get out there. You got to work out. I mean, I don't know how old you are trail, but man, get out there and work out. You got to back up, bro. I mean, ya've done ya've done ya've done ya've done ya've done ya've done ya've done ya've done It ain't the workout. Come on down here, eat with me. Bodies are made in the kitchen. There you go. That's what bodies are made. They ain't made in the weight room. Just gotta, hey, you gotta stay away from them zoos and wind whams now. You saw that, Joe? I said it a little pebble, you got over it. You heard what Uncle said, huh? Bodies are made in the weight room, Joe. No, I ain't saying nobody made a weight room. Underground kick, Chad, did you ever think about leaving Cincinnati in your prime? Oh, yeah, oh yeah, I tried that. Yeah, I tried that. Yeah, that ain't work. They pissed you off? No, they just immediately started saying that I was the reason we were losing. All right, what's you, let me get a body hit in. Yeah, that ain't work. MW Music, Uncle Ocho, what days are y'all doing nightcap at WrestleMania? I'm trying to holler at y'all retired Navy. I got my La Portier special edition box Thursday, Friday. Thursday, Friday. Who is the most disrespected player in the NFL? Excuse me. Who's the most disrespected player in NFL history and why? Who do you think, Ocho? Damn, the most disrespected? Yes. Oh, that's a great question. Disrespectful, disrespected, not giving a love that they deserve. I think, look, as right now recently, probably Brother Hertz Jalen, probably Lamar. In history? I'm talking about right now. History wise, I mean, shoot, I'll let you do history. I'm just trying to think those that get a bad rap right now. History. And it's mostly the quarterbacks though, too. Yeah, for sure. I mean, because they're judged a little different than everybody else. I think when it's all said done, I think AB gonna be the most disrespected player in history. Antonio Brown. Yep. You know, he up for the hall this year, Ocho. Yeah. He gonna get in there though, ain't he? There's gonna be some years. I'm saying because of course and because I'll feel so. I'll feel so. I'll say I know his numbers. Oh, his numbers are superb. His numbers are superb. He was so special. Mmm. Beyond special. He had a stretch. He had a four or five year stretch. Six. That was as good if not happy. Six. That was as good if not better than any receiver in the history of the game. I agree. That was a must. Crazy work. Sam McGrath 89. I so tried to save Nick from engaging in malpractice. There is no way he forgot still for what the guy probably did for a guy he probably didn't even see play. He didn't see big old play. He damn sure didn't see Bob Coosie play. Because I'm older than Nick and I didn't see Bob Coosie. And they have a big old play. Hell, I didn't even see big old play when he witnessed Cincinnati. And that was after he played all those years in Cincinnati. You know. Hell, I don't even know how much you saw of Isaiah play. How old is Nick? He probably caught a little bit of Isaiah. I know he ain't seen no Bob Coosie. No, and he ain't seen no Oscar Robinson. No, no, I see Oscar play at University Cincinnati. Man, you ain't seen no Oscar Robinson play. I was there. What's that front row and watch Oscar play man? Stop playing man. He was at UC. Nick's 41. So Nick's 41. That means he was born in what 1980? No, yeah. No, no. He's 41. So he's born in, he's born in 85. Yeah. Isaiah returned like 92. Isaiah was, Isaiah was like third or fourth pick in 81. He won the championship with Indiana in 81. He got drafted. He got drafted that, that June or whatever they have to draft. He's born in 85. He's born in 85. Isaiah won his first championship in 89 and nine. No, 89, no, 90, 90, no, 89, 90. Cause Jordan won 91, 92, 93, 96, 97, 98. Yeah, he ain't seen no. So it was four with Isaiah, with his first championship, five with he won his second championship. Yeah. No, no, man. Yeah. I don't know what he was thinking. I, I, you, I, he'll probably say, you know, look, he, he, he, he thought about it and he just, and it happens. You know, completely, you completely drew a blank. Happens. Uh, L M G say how any chance y'all discuss the NFL draft soon. Y'all should do a mark, top 10 draft challenge. Whoever gets the most right gets the crown. Two million. We're looking at that. We're looking at that. Uh, uh, ever are the goat. I've been trying to show something on the FC. Oh, Joe. What's going on? You know, you've been ducking me. You probably have. You probably been ducking you. What's FC? I don't know. I guess I'm, I guess he's trying to, I guess he, uh, soccer or something. Oh, oh, oh, you, oh, you, you won't work. What you bought me easy to find you, you know, you know, but don't, don't do that. Man, don't, don't play me. Don't play you. Yeah. He definitely ducking because everybody know how to reach me, especially when it comes to that game. That concludes this episode of nightcap. We want to thank each and every one of you for joining us. Y'all know who I am. I'm your favorite up. There's my partner to form a bingo ring of fame on the real. He's a current bingo ring of fame on the real form of pro bowling on pro. 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Both games were sensational and the Charlotte Hornets will take on the winner of the Orlando Magic and the Philadelphia 76ers. Uh, as Charlotte, uh, the middle ball had a game, a game winning layup late in the ball game after Kobe White's game time three forces overtime, they hold on to win 127 to 106 bath out of bio who was tripped up by the middle ball ended up injuring his lower back or lower extremities and he left the game and did not return. So the Charlotte waste the winner for the Orlando Magic and the Philadelphia 76ers for the eight seed for the right to face the Detroit Pistons. That concludes this episode of nightcap. Y'all know who I am. I'm on he's Ocho. He's ISO. We'll see you tomorrow night. Thank you guys for joining us. Yeah. Yeah. 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