Amanda Batula & West Wilson: The Fallout, The Updates & The Reactions & More Hot Topics

It's your daily dose of Donna. Welcome to the show. Happy April 1st, April Fool's Day, a day that we wish we were getting fooled with some of this big news and we are not unfortunately. This is reality. I actually hate April Fool's Day. If there's ever any holiday that should get canceled, it's April Fool's Day. That is my hot take of the day. April Fool's Day sucks. It really sucks when you're an online person, when you go online, because every second, is this real? Is this not? Is this real? I'm not into it. If we could just cancel April Fool's Day, I don't think they're funny. I don't think the pranks are good. I've never been into pranks, and I've never been into costume parties, which is shocking that I like Summer House. We're going to get into all of it, you guys. As soon as I change the coloring on this name here, I don't understand why this happens every once in a while, but we have so much to talk about, you guys. The more I sit and think and stress over the Summer House stuff, is the more that I feel just immersed in it. I can't stop thinking about it. In fact, when I was going to bed last night, I had a hard time falling asleep because I thought about Amanda. We're going to get into everyone's reactions right now, because there's some big reactions out there. Kyle Cook finally has spoken. We have a longer on the street interview that I'm going to share with you guys in just a moment. Everyone, thank you so much for being here. Lots of new followers since yesterday. I know a lot of people are interested in this content, the Summer House drama. I can't get enough of it, and I usually share with you guys what I'm obsessed with. Let's get into it. Thank you so much for being here. It's your daily dose of Donna. Thank you, everyone. Yes, something you guys like, April Fool's Day. Good on you. Enjoy it. I'm pregnant. April Fool's. This morning, my kids are camping with my husband. They're up in some place that sounds like a true crime location, and they're packing up to come home today. Dylan, my 13-year-old text in me, and he's like, you have to pick me up. I'm stranded. We're stranded out here. You have to pick me up. I was like, wait, what? And he goes, April Fool's. I'm like, if I have this holiday, I have it. I don't like it. Here's something else I don't like, this whole drama. I mean, I like it in the sense that I am obsessed with it, talking about it. Like, it's kind of the only thing on my mind, but what I don't like is the feeling it gives me. This whole, I mean, what are we going to call it? A lot of people are calling it Scamanda. I know some people are calling it Amanda Vol. One man. I mean, I don't even know. We can call it Scamanda for now. Although Scamanda was a podcast that I listened to, what, two years ago, three years, and it was Molly. You should have had to me and her husband sing an intro for your show as an April Fool's. Can you imagine? You're too flat. That's hysterical. So Scamanda was a podcast about a scam artist, basically a woman who lied to her whole entire circle, including her own family, that she had cancer for years. I don't want to say it's the same thing, although when you take Scandival and the word Amanda, but we do need to talk a little bit about everyone's reactions to what's going on and how West is taking a quarter of the heat as Amanda is. And that to me is, it's a toughie. It's a toughie, but it's a reality. So let's talk about that. Let's talk about the fact that why do we feel that Amanda is taking most of the heat? And I'll tell you what my initial feeling is, is a, she's a woman. Okay, that's the truth. There's no question about that. Women tend to get more, but number two, she hurt her friend and that's what the real issue here is. Someone commented somewhere, whether it was on Instagram or something, saying, I don't understand. Sierra and West hardly dated. Like West is allowed to date whoever he wants. I'm like, wait, you think the issue is with West dating someone? West would date a tree. Okay. West would date my Stanley. West is like the least of our concerns. It's Amanda because what I recognize yesterday is it's less that she hooked up with her friends X, which would have been bad enough, but she's hooking up or dating her, the guy that broke her friend's heart multiple times. Because West and Sierra, okay, number one, let's set the record straight for all those people that say like, well, they weren't even together. They hardly dated. West and Sierra were completely hooking up for an entire summer on summer house. So that's, you know, two months or whatever. And right at the end of summer house filming went off and had a five month relationship. We didn't see it on the show. So maybe people didn't know it was real, but they had a five month relationship and he brought her home and she opened up with him and got vulnerable with him. And if I don't know if you guys can remember this, but before West broke Sierra's heart, we were obsessed with West as like a human society, right? Like the Bravo family loved West so much. Oh, you guys are asking about my sweater? Yeah, this is a sweater. It's like a perfect cozy when it's cold outside sweater. It's from Veechee, but I don't know if they still have it. I know some of you guys purchased it when I first wore it. So West took her home to meet his parents. He introduced her to all of his friends. He totally brought her into the fold and then broke up with her because he wasn't ready for commitment, which actually, I think is probably the only honest thing there. And Sierra was devastated. So all of season nine, we saw Sierra's fallout with West and West being petrified and panicked to even talk to Sierra. If you guys go back and watch season nine, West was like a mouse. He was so scared of hurting her feelings again, and he would freak out and be so excited to have this conversation. Anytime Sierra would give him just like a little bit of friendship, he would be like, oh my God, she's talking to me. She's talking to me because he hurt her that badly. And who did she go to with all of that pain were the girls in the house, which of course, number one was page last season. But then of course, Amanda is definitely one of the girls. And so Amanda was very aware of how much Sierra's heart was broken by West cut to one year later, last summer, the 20th, the summer of 25, where they enter the house and and Sierra's decided to kind of like, forget about her animosity with West. She's like giving up, she's fine. She's cool. She's friendly with him. And then in these last few episodes, there's clearly a development, a developing relationship. She has still feelings for him. She cries about it in the confessional. She has a lot of love for this guy still. He's like the one that that that got away or whatever, or maybe she's the one that got away for him. Like, I don't know. In my mind, watching the season, I'm thinking, West and Sierra are getting back together, at least they're going to hook up because there's definitely feelings that he still has for her or she still has for him. Like, they have feelings for each other. That's what I'm thinking while watching the season. Every time he's drinking, he gets very touchy and wants to get close to her. He got offended when Jesse asked about hooking up with her, like West and Sierra, as my eyes are seeing in real time, are headed towards hooking up slash dating again. Which makes this also insane. Because while this is all happening, and we obviously don't have the only people that really know the timeline are Amanda and West, and if they told anyone in their lives. But the only people that really knew the situation of how and when and where this started are them. Now, there's a lot of clues that seem to be pointing to the fact that this developed before the summer even started. I'm going to tell you guys, one of my best friends, she called me last night, and she told me this when the rumors were starting back in early March. But I didn't really pay attention to it. But she told me last night, she's like, I have pictures of the night, not of them, but of the night that I went out with girlfriends to Craig's here in LA. It was April, get this guys, April, 2024. April, 2024. Amanda and Kyle went out to Craig, I mean, Amanda and West went to Craig's alone together here in LA. Now, at this time, it was after he dated Sierra and broke up with her, it was right before they were going into the next season. Why were they at dinner together? Maybe it was just friend, I'm assuming it was just a friendly dinner, like maybe they were both here in LA promoting something or on a podcast or something. So they went to dinner together. And my friend, when she watched it, she said, I see it very like I saw them as very casual friends. But this is how feelings start, right? You start hanging out as a friend, and then you start kind of maybe connecting and maybe if they're having dinner alone at Craig's in 2024, I'm assuming they're they've hung out alone many times at dinners and whatever. And like, Kyle is too blind to, I'd say naive and blind to think that anything's happening. And I don't think any of the girls would think Amanda would do anything. So they start talking, they start connecting, they start sharing their most vulnerable feelings. And all of a sudden, Amanda is saying like, Oh, it's really nice. I'm just like getting into Amanda's head. It's really nice sitting with a guy who actually is listening to me, who's actually looking at me in the eyes, who's actually focusing on me. And whether or not Kyle did this or not for her, when you are in an unhappy marriage, sometimes you're looking out, outwards, like who else can give me this attention. And it may have felt really good for her. And then maybe she gave West a feeling of confidence, a feeling of attachment, a feeling of love, whatever. And this could have started these little seeds, not saying an affair. But just that feeling of like they make me feel good, could have started two years ago. And then the more they started to spend time together, the more they started to hang out with each other, the more the more they started to connect over drinks. And we have multiple pictures of them now at different bars and restaurants alone throughout the months, all the way back in February, even of this year. That's where the real connections start. You know, but I do believe that they were probably feeling each other last summer, especially after a few drinks come out, right? Some drinks come out, and it's all over when you have feelings like that. And Kyle is three sheets to the wind too. Her husband is just hammered in the other room or right there deejaying, so focused on his own shit and his own alcoholism or whatever. And like not really seeing what maybe everyone else is seeing or what they were seeing. Let's start with Kyle's reaction this morning. I found this to be incredibly fascinating. It says part one, and so I don't know if there's a part two yet, but Face Reality, our deep diver, our resident deep diver, Eliza, she has posted this one guy, he is a reporter, his name is Adam Glenn, yeah, Adam Glenn, and he's on TikTok. And he, maybe this was like a chosen meeting where maybe Kyle's friendly with him. He hosts a podcast, this Adam Glenn or something. I don't know what he does, but I have a feeling that Kyle maybe reached out to this guy and was like, they have like a cool little connection. He's like, hey, why don't you get me on the streets and ask me some questions, either that or this Adam guy just got so lucky because Kyle was ready to have a conversation and fully open up to him on the streets about where it's going. I have so many thoughts about this interview, including the fact that my heart actually hurts for Kyle in this moment for a couple different reasons. Why don't you guys watch it and let me know your thoughts. What's up? I like the shirt. I like the hat. How are you? I know how you feel. I mean, obviously it's been a tough kind of crazy 24 hours. How are you? I'm good. I appreciate people checking in. I actually really worried about Amanda for being honest. Yeah. Has she talked to her since? Talked to her. I talked to her before. They put the statement out. She gave me a heads up. And I talked to her last night. And I think I understand people have also been opinions. It's really loud in the background. I'm not just fine any behavior, but from what I'm seeing, she's kind of getting cyber bullied. And then in the day, all I know is West seems to be the kind of guy playing multiple women at the same time. I just looked and somehow in all of this, like 50,000 people have decided West deserves their follow. So I'm pausing it. Just in case you guys aren't hearing it. Well, he says he feels bad for Amanda. She's getting cyber bullied right now. And while he's disappointed in what she did, West somehow has grown 50,000 Instagram followers. That's wild. I noticed that too. I noticed it yesterday. He had grown 6,000 followers while I was on my show. So he is growing fast. Let's continue it. I mean, while they're just lighting up Amanda, I just feel bad because like, I mean, it knows that what she did wrong and she's trying to come to terms with it, but she is not well. Did you know about this or how long have you known about this? I mean, I just basically figured out over the weekend. I mean, obviously I was trying to give everybody the benefit of the doubt. Because I feel like- He had been trying to give everyone the benefit of the doubt and just found out over the weekend. But he does also say, and he says it many times, how unwell Amanda is, which I am one thought. I was texting with Elisa Rosen. You guys shout out. I was texting with her and last night about it. And we were both just in shock over this. We kind of can't- We're obsessed. And we were both saying how- Where is Amanda right now mentally? Because she is someone that truly struggles with anxiety and depression. I feel like a lot of people knew there's words that Dave Fornoy said he heard back in February. Is it more upsetting for you that you heard people knew and didn't tell you or they should have just came forward? I think that- Look, I don't understand the timeline just yet. It definitely makes me second. Yes, a lot of things last summer. At a minimum. Just haven't checked out. She was. My own unsuccessful ways. I was still trying to put an effort in. I mean, it's a mental- Yeah. Mindfuck for me just because there's still so much that we're watching. You know, from the summer. I just- I don't know. I'm out of a little bit of a lot of words. No, I get it. Is- Have you talked to Wes as he reached out to you? He sent some half-assed text messages. I just- I guess what I'm trying to say is- Most of our audience, most of our followers are women. Amanda feels the mental health issues. Before cyberbolic hurt and then giving Wes the follow maybe thing twice. So he's basically saying give them both shit treatment right now if you want, but don't choose the girl to attack and not the guy. Roxanne, you can't hear it at all or is it just low? I'm trying to like share with you what he's saying. It's horrible audio because it's out in the streets and he doesn't have a mic. I think that- Okay, so he also said in case you didn't hear, he said that West sent him a half-assed text message. He'll go into that in a little detail in a second. I want to see the half-assed text message. I want to decipher it. I want to put it through AI. Like I want to ask if anyone has listened to it. Like I am so fascinated to know. I'm going to play more of- I'm just going to play the rest of it and stop and kind of like decipher. He is clearly incredibly protective over his ex-wife. Clearly. Clearly. Let's keep going. Yeah, I just- it's like we're still trying to figure all this out. I'm still trying to figure out the details, but I know I can imagine. West is using the same charm that he's used on it just about every other chick. So do you think this is- I mean- West is using the same charm he uses on every other chick. Did- I mean with the news coming out, you found out about this weekend pretty much. You put it together. So how did you put it together or did they come forward to tell you? I mean it was just like a series of events that unfortunately the evidence just kind of started piling up and piling up and piling up. You know, I'll leave it at that. Yeah, did you know about this so last summer, do you think something was going on last summer? Or even in the- Look, looking back, there's a lot of us that look at his body language and how touchy and fancy he is with her and I think just gave him a little bit of a hall pass. Oh, it's West. Yeah. But he's like- I mean, candidly like his watch what happens, you know, I just confessional last week's episode, I just- I could not believe that he went there. So now he's like- you can tell he's pissed at West beyond- understandably, he fucked his mate's misses. He's literally effing his friends, wife's, current wife, separated, but current wife. I mean, Kyle has every right to be really pissed off at West as well. And what did he say in his text message? Oh, fuck. Right there. We got a pooper. Yeah. I honestly- it's just the words out. I don't even remember. So where does it stand right now? You and Amanda, are she- like, are you guys talking? I'm- I'm- I know you said that- I'm obviously frustrated. I feel like, I mean, we have a whole new show to come out. Sure. There's so much that gets unpacked there. We have a whole new show to come out. There is so much to unpack there, he says. They are business partners on top of everything else. You have to remember that. Amanda is a business partner of Loverboy, and Amanda is a costar on a new reality show that he was banking on for his finances. I'm sure Lindsay's pissed too. I'm obviously disappointed in her, but just hearing her and hearing how unwell she is, you know, dark thoughts. I just ask people to just, you know, maybe let off the gas a little bit with the cyber bullying and hate. Have you talked to Sierra at all? Right before we get into the Sierra of it, he really is worried about her. It's genuine. He knows she effed up. He hurt- she hurt the whole thing. She blew up Summerhouse, like in a bad way. She imploded the situation, but he is so worried about her. Those are their dogs. Like, they share a history. I don't think Kyle and Amanda were like that in love, because clearly he would disrespect at her and she disrespected him. But I think they were- it's very hard when you have a 10-year relationship with someone to just, like, not care about their feelings, you know? Yeah. And how did she know? She didn't touch this, like, this bowl. Did she know it or did she- how are you? So that's part one. I am not saying part two yet. Face reality hasn't posted part two yet at all. And I'm sure that's going to be more about, like, how have you talked to Sierra and everything, and maybe about a couple other things. If there is a second part, maybe you guys let me know. Here's the thing. One thing I find interesting about this is, if this was happening to- Like, it- it breaks my heart a little bit for Kyle, because he ultimately, as much as he treated Amanda like shit, he wants to protect her. And he wants to take care of her right now in this moment. And that is sad to watch. Like, it's actually really sad. He's always been able to kind of lift her up when she's been in her darkest hell, probably as his- as her husband, even though maybe she was- he was a cause of a lot of it. But he feels probably so torn. Like, I hate you, and I also don't want you to hurt yourself. I don't want you to get hurt. I don't want you to be hurt. I wonder if Ariana ever had those thoughts about Tom. Like, I wonder if you guys- It's so hard to compare, because if you are just being- If you are being cheated on by your partner, even though Amanda didn't cheat on Kyle yet, that we know of, although I think he pretty much recognizes that she did. If you are being cheated on by your partner, and then they got so much public scrutiny, would there be a part of you that would feel sad about it, or sad for them? Like, it's a really, really tough, tough thing. Now, I saw some comments in that post that people are like, why does anyone not care- Why doesn't anyone care about Ciara? Why are they asking about Ciara first? Ciara is a huge person to be hurt here. She is the number one person to be hurt here. But Kyle is not the one that necessarily has to be asked about Ciara first. Amanda, sadly, is Kyle still top of mind? He probably took the dogs from her so that she could be alone. I mean, I don't even know where Amanda lives. Do you guys know if- Does Amanda live in her own apartment? I was thinking about this all day yesterday, and last night before I went to bed, I was just thinking about how quickly this all unraveled for these two. Amanda and West, as of a week ago, were living their best lives. She was getting brand deals, buffalo, wild wings, etc., etc., etc. She was killing the game. Now she had this Edie Flower brand deal where she's standing, you know, the one that they pulled yesterday. She probably- She just did like some sort of love sack deal. I guarantee you, her agent, manager, whoever deals with her deals was getting inundated with calls. Her life seemed really great. Like, she was posting all these photo dumps. I don't know if you guys were watching, but I actually do follow Amanda. I follow a bunch of these summer house people on Instagram and stuff. So I get to see a lot of their stuff, but- But Amanda, just a couple- What, a week ago, she posted this long- Like a photo dump. I'll show it to you guys right now. She posted a photo dump of her life, and it's just her with her friends, and it says, she turned off her comments, you guys, finally. She turned off her comments. It says, fueled by cheeseburgers and dirty martinis. And it's just pictures of her just partying and drinking and having fun with her friends and enjoying her life. And like, she was by all intensive- Wait, is it intensive purposes or intense and purposes? This was Amanda's year. So imagine going from this moment to- How much I care she posts? Oh, yoyoyoy. On March 22nd, to where she is right now is actually like- It's quite catastrophic. I don't know intense and purposes. Thank you, Laura. Not only a moderator, but also my producer. It's almost catastrophic what it can do to yourself to go to follow that publicly that fast. Tom Sandoval, for example, and he's the only other person that I can think of, or Raquel. Like, these are the other two that have gotten this kind of treatment from the world and the Bravo world. I don't think it was ever that crazy because I don't think Tom Sandoval was ever like the most stand-up dude. I don't think- and Raquel, no one really cared about. I think the reason why this is so like mind-blowing is because literally 48 hours ago or 72 hours ago, Amanda was writing high and all the girls were standing for her and all the guys wanted to eff her. And like all the girls wanted to be her and the guys wanted to be with her. Not two days ago. So what a shock to the system, to your psyche, to your emotions. I actually don't know if she's going to be okay. And I worry about that because I have a heart in my life. No one deserves to feel that bad. But I'm also aware that she was very aware of what she was doing and she made bad choices. And when you make really, really bad, bad choices, consequences happen. And it would happen to all of us, you guys. All of us have had, and not to this extent because we're not celebrities, but all of us have been in a position in our lives where everything's great and then within a day, things can turn around. And whether that's with your health, government, money, a decision that happens, something, a job, whatever. It's so knife to the heart. Now, West, let's put ourselves in West position. West thrives off being liked. And we know this from watching the show. We know this from watching the reunion last year when he got skewered. We know this from what Pages said. West's whole personality is like, I'm the cool guy, like me. Be my friend. And because of that energy, Amanda fell for him because just like Kyle said, he has the ability to charm every single person in his life. Even Sierra, after he broke her heart, he was able to charm her back in. So West, meanwhile, is probably, like, doesn't even know which way is up right now. Because within 24 hours, yes, he's growing followers, but there are hate followers. I don't think there's that. I mean, there are some people that are messaging me and commenting on my stuff that are saying, I'm so hope, I'm so happy for Amanda and West. Like, let them live their life. Okay, let them live their life, but we don't have to support that. Like, yeah, they're going to have to go off and live their life. And who knows where they're going to go with it, but I have no idea. I think West is going to severely struggle from this too, because West makes a lot of money off brand deals. West's whole situation and energy is having people like him. He does all of those short form content videos. He does the podcast and the food and this and this and that. And I just don't know where he's going to go with this one. Because West, in addition to this affair coming out yesterday, and then releasing the joint statement from hell, which actually reminds me, it's a perfect moment to read to you guys, a joint statement redo that someone on threads wrote and I screenshot it because I thought it was that good. And she says her name is K burn YK on, um, on threads. And she said, I do this for a living. Like I write PR crisis statements for a living and I would never release the statement that they released. I have no idea why they did that. Here's what I would say. And I read it yesterday or this morning, I can't remember. And I was like, this is so, so good. They really should have thought twice before releasing their statement. She said, if I was West and Amanda's PR rep, I'm not. This is the statement I would have written for them. We fucked up. What started as a real friendship turns into something more. And while feelings are complicated, the fallout here is not. People got hurt. Our silence made it worse. And it was on us to be more honest sooner. We should have been more upfront. We should have been more thoughtful. And we should have done a better job protecting the people around us, not just ourselves. Being part of this group and the show means our choices do not happen in a vacuum. We signed up to live publicly and we should have handled this with a lot more care than we did. There is no perfect explanation. We caught feelings. We made a mess. And now we have to take responsibility for that. We're still figuring out what this means for us. But more importantly, we know we have real repair to do with the people affected by it. And the only thing we can do now is be honest, take responsibility and try to do better to the people, by the people we hurt. I am like, oh my God. Who, as Justin Sylvester says, who, how many managers and PR team people and friends or even family members read their joint statement yesterday and said, yes. Yes, that's the one. Don't apologize to Sierra or Kyle. Just talk about you. Go for it, friends. And say we. It's, it's, uh, it was such a mess. So then if not to add insult to injury, y'all. West is apparently hooking up with other people. Yep. I said it. By the way, you guys are wondering who else is speaking out loud about this. Jesse Solomon did post something I just saw. Guess I'll start. I can't, you guys. It's, it's that song. I can't say Jesse Solomon without singing, but Jesse Solomon did just post something. I haven't seen it and it may not even be about this, but let's, uh, let's see what this, uh, says. It's a video. If he starts singing, I'm going to lose my mind. He's so goofy with the smile. No one wants to see that smile. Jesse, people are hurting right now. Here we go. I have a crazy idea. I want someone in every city to come on stage and sing a song with me. I'll be playing the piano. I'll sing the first verse. You sing the second verse. Maybe we'll do a little harmony on the chorus. So if you want to sing with me, comment, nominate a friend, tag him. Could be fun. What the fuck? I have a crazy. Is he joking? Is he joking? He's like, all I care about is the world tour. All right. Do not mess the world tour. He wants me to go up there. Okay. Jesse, this is officially my, and this is from one Jew to another on, on Passover. Okay. Passover starts tonight. Okay. Pesach. So here's my audition. I guess I'll start doing things. Or is it me? Do you guys think I can do it? What a dumbass moment for him to talk about himself. No one cares right now, Jesse. No one cares. Okay. Let's go to, let's go to Dumois. Now Dumois has posted some pretty shocking stuff in the last 24 hours, because Dumois is one of the people, and you guys know I'm friends with Do. Like, I love her. She, you may not like her and that's fine, but she is, she knows what she's doing, right? She has written posts or her release blinds from the very beginning of this, or at least beginning of March, right? Like when people really started to notice the two of them together. So what's crazy is that she dropped the information that he was, he and Amanda were hooking up. She, he dropped the, she dropped the information that they were hooking up like weeks ago, and then people, you know, would still drop in all of these kinds of blinds here and there. And then last night, or yesterday afternoon, she posts this, and then I'll go to her stories because there's so much going on. It says, while the narrative continues to build, new intel suggests things may be far less defined between Bravo's summer house, Wes Wilson and Amanda. In a March 18th Dumois article, West was reportedly, March 18th, you guys, two weeks ago, reportedly spotted in Chicago, celebrating St. Patrick's Day, a well-played source with Dumois was, he tells Dumois, he was seen at recess in the West Loop, where an onlooker claims he spent much of the night holding hands with his brunette girl the whole time. Random girls were going up to him and he seemed to be holding her hand to show he was taken and not interested. Suggesting the mystery brunette may have been doubling as a buffer. Now multiple sources claim West has been actively seeing multiple women, including one in New York, previously spotted leaving a bar with him that was posted in a January Sunday spotted, and another in Chicago he allegedly saw during St. Patrick's Day weekend, who tried to call things off with West, only for him to pull her back in. However, the biggest surprise in this story is that multiple sources confirmed to Dumois that West has been seen at Sierra's apartment and they have allegedly hooked up as recently as the past couple of weeks. He was hooking up a Sierra in the last couple of weeks, can you imagine? Okay, this is a picture of the two of them in January of this year. This is a picture of him just a couple Sundays ago for the NFL games. This person says, I already have heard of two distant mutuals who are also actively hooking up with West. One of those girls lives in New York, another one in Chicago, and then on her stories, she posts all these blinds. I mean, you guys, they're popping out like, here, hold on. It says, I have heard from a very reliable source that West has had a girlfriend for a while now, even way back when he was with Sierra, and the girl just sort of puts up with him and other girls because he tells her it's just for the show. Not sure if they're still together, but I was told about his girlfriend back in December. West Wilson hit me up in October. Not sure how that adds to the timeline, but down with him, another girl writes, this is pictures of them together, and Dumois says, think it's safe to say West was not exclusively seeing anyone this winter. Now, she also just posted this four hours ago, West at LAX Delta One Lounge. It says Bravo Summerhouse's West Wilson leaves LA for the last night. Please note the sighting of West in Monday's newsletter was not accurate. So he's in LA. You guys remember that we were getting all of these spotted moments of him being here in LA, him being with Amanda, Catalina, Corona Del Mar, like all this weird shit. I have no idea where Amanda is right now, but clearly, clearly, his life is over in this moment. Okay, he's so done. And honestly, I am not a fan of Sierra. I'm not a fan of Amanda, and I've never really been, but I started to like her this season, and that all went out the window in the last 48 hours. I do not want her to go for, but do something regrettable. And I really, really pray to God that people aren't, I mean, I think she needs to stay off the F line right now because people cannot hold back. People are very invested in the story, same here, I am too. So like, part of being a public persona and on reality TV and making bad choices means that you are going to face those consequences. So she, her mom and dad, whom she's very close with that Amanda, need to scoop her ass up right now and need to remove her from any sort of social media. Now, what's hard about that is because she literally is on a show that is airing right now. We're just at mid season, or there's probably like, I don't know how many more episodes, probably at least four or five. It is so all about Amanda and Kyle. So there's so much Amanda drama and the season. I imagine we're going to see more and more of Kyle saying like, why are you not giving me attention? And even in last night's episode, he actually said, in last night's episode, he said in a confessional, I wish some of these other guys would say, Amanda, why are you spending your time flirting with us and not spending it with your husband? And really, and you can't rewrite, you can't like make this stuff up. You can't make, I mean, you can't like re-edit that that fast. The announcement came out yesterday. They're not re-editing the show for this. And as far as I know, they're not even picking up. Hey, hold on a second. And my puppy likes squirrels. I may have to remove her if she is loud. Okay. So Amanda needs severe protection right now. I don't know which friends are going to stick by her. I'm assuming the girlfriends that she has in her circle that are separated from Sierra and separated from summer house, like the ones that she's doing all these dirty martini pictures with, I'm sure they know. I guarantee you they know that she's effing west and they're hanging out with west and like they're doing their thing. So I guarantee you she is very probably, she's probably protected by some of her friends. But now let's move over to Sierra. So Sierra, as hurt as Sierra is, I do think Sierra has more to gain right now than ever before. I am going to go hard on the fact that this will 1,000% propel Sierra to star power. Ariana, if you guys remember, everyone says Ariana was a star. Look and look what happened. Ariana was not a star. Ariana was boring as eff on TV. She was truly so negative, especially in those last few seasons. She was depressed. She was negative. She didn't want to leave her house. She didn't have sex like she remember? She was a downer. This scant of all situation propelled Ariana into the star that she is and that will be Sierra. So if anyone's out there saying like Sierra is boring or unlikeable, maybe she has been in previous seasons. I haven't loved her necessarily in previous seasons. This season I'm obsessed with her. Obsessed with her and I have been since the beginning of the season, but this is what's going to take her to star because the confidence of knowing that the world has her back. She's going to get the best glam. She's going to get the best stylist. I mean, not like she needs it. She's gorgeous. She just bought a freaking second home or a first home. I don't know. She was talking about it last night. And by the way, she has opened up so much this season, so much with her incredible vulnerability this season. We have seen so much more vulnerability from Sierra ever, way more than we ever saw seasons before. So yesterday she starts talking about the fact that she just bought her family home. Guys, where is it? Nashville? Not Nashville. Where was it? I can't remember where. She bought the house that her grandparents built. And she started to get emotional talking about it. And her friends are just telling her like, you know, Mia, who was sitting there is like, you don't understand how hard Sierra's worked for this. This is a girl on the up and up. So as much, oh, North Carolina, as much as I feel sad for her and devastated for her because this has got to be such a double blow. I can't even imagine seeing a joint statement with my friend and then my ex that I still probably had feelings for two weeks ago. This is her. This is her ticket to ride. I'm not even talking about money or fame. I'm just saying for to the moon, right? Like, oh, and speaking of, we have a moon launch today. So maybe she'll jump on there. Wait, is Katy Perry going to the moon today? There's the Artemis moon launch. My kids are coming home right now. They're on their way home, but we're supposed to go to Project Hail Mary at 420 is the movie start and Dylan's like, I'm going to miss the moon launch. Like you got to record it. But I do believe Sierra, this is all a blessing for Sierra in the long run as horrible as it is right now. Now Kyle is screwed because he is banking on Amanda for the show, the city in the city. Lindsay, I don't think Lindsay will ever be screwed because Lindsay is like, Oh, chef's kiss. I've always loved her. But I think that she is going to be very mad with Amanda too, because she's putting all of their future financial freedom, careers, et cetera on the line by doing this. How do you record the city show now? How do you film it? I mean, I'm sure they've been filming. They have been filming. So I'm sure we'll see it at some point, but we have the mic says they're dropping Katie off. They're dropping Katie off on the moon. And she's like, I'm wide awake. Oh my God, please. That would be that would be a great turn of events. Maybe they should drop West off on the moon and just leave them there. So I just think that you know, there's going to be a lot of fallout in a negative way from this. I don't know if Summerhouse can continue. I really don't. I think they were already going to struggle knowing that Kyle and Amanda are not coming back on the show full time. Lindsay is not on the show full time. I can't imagine Carl's going to come back full time, even if everyone was still getting along and married and good. I don't know how Summerhouse would continue with the older generation, but at least they knew that they had West and Jesse and now they have, you know, Levi and Bailey and Ben and KJ and like they have the new generation, but now I don't even think they have the new generation. I think it's like, I don't know if West is going to be ever back on Bravo. I don't know if people want to see that. But then again, we said that about Santa Val and he was back the next season. Actually, I do want to see it. I want, I want, I want to see what's happening right now in Westmind. I want to know what's happening in Westmind right now. And I want to know how much he wanted to punch Jesse's face out when he saw him post on social media and he was like, I guess I'll start. Who's going to take West side in this? Okay. I mean, you guys, we're going to get more answers. We're going to learn more. All I know is that another, another update, Andy Cohen, he says that he had zero knowledge about it whatsoever. He says he had no idea and he really didn't know anything. And I find, let me see if I can find that. It was probably on radio, Andy. I find him to be telling the truth. I don't think that this is like a positive thing. I mean, maybe it's a positive thing for the rest of this season. Andy looks like shit, by the way, in this clip that I'm about to show you. He clearly like went out last night with John Hamm or something. He does not look good. Let's watch it. Do you think it's worth reminding everybody, all the passionate fans of this is another clip. I'll watch that in just a second. Let's first watch the one where he talks about the drama. I will say that I saw a lot of conspiracy theories online yesterday that I somehow knew about this. Did you? I did not. I really feel for Ciara. Of course. I was surprised by the statement. I was surprised by what it said or what it didn't say. And I was surprised by what it didn't say. I have so many questions and the reunion is coming up. And boy, do I have a lot of questions. I will say that I saw a lot of conspiracy. Now, he they just added this 38 seconds ago on social. Like it literally just was added. And it's probably after Kyle's interview because they know what's going on behind the scenes. I do think it's worth reminding everybody, all the passionate fans of the show that these are real people involved. Right. And so these are real people involved. Right. Yes. What? Yeah, they are. Listen, you sign up for reality show. You sign up for the pile on sometimes. If you're going to play. I understand. I'm just going to play in people's faces of beloved other people on the show. Yes. I'm not saying anybody needs to be doxed or threatened or okay. Well, in danger. Okay. Well, that's what I think can be. That's what I'll okay. Well, then threaded. There's a middle ground and thread. But just know these are real people who are appealing with a lot. Right. A real sometimes dumb people. It's funny coming from Andy. Have you ever watched his social media content over on X or threads and how he just freaking attacks people? It's interesting that he does now he cares about real people. He is like the puppet master here with all of this because he puts these, I mean, look, he's not an executive producer of Summerhouse. He's just the host of Watch What Happens Live, but he thrives on this drama and he knows what this does for Bravo, which then what it does for Watch What Happens Live, which then what it does for his paycheck, like this is like catching moments. This is everything for Bravo. And yes, they're worried about what that means for Summerhouse as a franchise. But you know what, they can always do Summerhouse. I mean, they've tried it right with different cities and stuff. They tried it with the Martha's Vineyard. That didn't work. I don't know if it was a cast thing. I tried really hard. I liked season one, season two lost me. I wonder if they can try. I mean, they can always do like a Summerhouse Florida something or like, I don't know, where else do people go for summer? It was a magic show. Summerhouse was a magic, magic show. And I don't know if they'll ever get that back. It's a bummer. It is actually a true bummer, which is why I understand like, you know, that's how a lot of us fell on Van der Pumper rules, like I said, but I really did like these people. So it's actually really sad. The whole thing is just really fucked. It's really sad and bad. Now I have some good news for some of you guys. If you've got some extra money in your pocket, because you can seriously listen to this. You guys can buy the house. The Summerhouse went on the market this week. Can you tell me that? Why do you think that happened? You guys, did they know? Did they see the footage of Amanda and West stripping in another room or something? And they're like, Oh, the show's over, got to sell the house and make some quick money. Look at this. Hold on. Okay, ads. Summerhouse Hampton's home hits the market for $5.6 million as as West Wilson and Amanda Patula's romance heats up. That's hilarious. Yes, the house has listed for $5.65 million in Sag Harbor. It's at 2136 Eurfield Road. If anyone lives in that area and it's been the home for pretty much well, since like, I want to say since the COVID season, so five seasons or so, it has 8700. The home occupies 8700 square feet. It's gorgeous. It's actually a gorgeous house. And think about how many herpes have been changed and exchanged in that house. The kitchen is gorgeous. This room is so pretty. We don't see this room a lot on the show. This is kind of like an off room for them. That's Amanda and Kyle's room. And it's gorgeous. And then here's one of seven bedrooms. It has seven bedrooms. There's the pool. The backyard is a little meh. I mean, it's a great pool tub, but like it's kind of meh. There's something you can do there. And that is that. So you guys just know that if you have a little extra cash, you can definitely throw it over there. Some other reactions. Dolores was doing Rhode Island. Dolores is going to be on Rhode Island. She's going to be like the friend of that kind of enters us into the show. And when does that start, by the way, Rhode Island? Is it tonight? Because I'm definitely watching that one. It looks good. She is standing by Sierra. Sierra, she says, two can keep a secret if one is dead. She goes, in this world, people come up with receipts. We'll see them. And she talks about how she's so obsessed with Sierra. They got close because of the traders, which also speaking of Boston Rob posted a picture of Sierra because he and Sierra were so close on that show as well. Oh, it's on tomorrow night. The valley is on. Like the valley is on tonight. Hilarious. As like anyone cares about the valley right now. I totally forgot about the valley, although I am looking forward to the valley. I love that show. Look at this Bravo week we're having here on Daily Dose of Donna. Unreal. Yeah, the valley comes out tonight. And I know that I just saw an interview clip of Jess of, what's his name? Zach? Lego Zach. He was talking about how he had heard from Jesse Solomon or something about this a long time ago. There was like, you know, there was rumors about it. Everyone is talking about it. Yeah, the front page of page six, Summer House star Kyle Cook worried about Amanda Batula and slams West Wilson for playing multiple women. West is going to, now does Amanda stay with him if he wants to be with her? That's my question. Do you think Amanda? Do you think Amanda is in love with West? That is my question for you guys. Do you think she's in love with West and she is heartbroken now for two things? A, because this all came out and her life is over as a public figure and everyone's deeming her this like bad friend. But also she's finding out that West has not been exclusive to her. Whoo. Like if you were Amanda right now, you released that statement together knowing that you're going to get blowback, right? Did they not think they were going to get hate? I actually am very interested. Do you think that they're going to, do you think that when they said like, let's press send on this, like it's going to be fine? Or they were like, okay, we'll get a little bit of blowback. That's my interest. I can't wait for this fucking reunion. That's all I can say. But yes, I have a feeling a lot of you guys are saying something which is very, very interesting, which is she stayed with Kyle throughout all the bad. So if West just charms his way back into her pants, because he knows that there's no one else that will give him a chance, although there is some B out there that will hook up with West Wilson tonight if she met but I do believe that she would stay with him. I do. That's kind of like they only have each other, right? They only have each other right now to hold on to in this moment. And Kyle, I was like, I'll be there for you. Let's move on to just like two other little stories. Horrible story coming out of Los Angeles, Fleetwood Mack, Star, Lindsey Buckingham was attacked and doused in an unknown substance here in Los Angeles. Today, right? We're Wednesday. It's Wednesday. Is that not the craziest headline you've ever seen? Yeah, attacked and doused by someone who while he was arriving for an appointment in Santa Monica, this woman hurled a unidentified substance when he entered a building and then fled the scene. He's she's been described as a stalking suspect. And he was aware of her from prior incidents. Now, if that's not the scariest shit you've ever heard that some crazy scary woman who stalks you is running after you and throwing things on you throwing substances on you. I can't. How scary is that? So hopefully they find her and put her in jail forever. And hopefully he's okay. They're not saying like what the substance was and if he's okay. But I'm telling you, like, you got to walk around without with like your head on a swivel. Just awful. Is there any other big story? Oh, you guys, I watched the Lamar Odom Netflix documentary last night and I need to know if any of you guys did too. Lamar Odom has a new documentary. I can't remember what they call it. Untold, maybe it's probably a series they probably do other people. It's about 90 minutes. Chloe Kardashian is a huge part of it. She is. She's interviewed throughout pretty much the entirety of she's like basically the storyteller of it. She tells it's his first baby mama. I don't know if they were ever married, whom he had three kids with and one died. I didn't know that. I didn't know that Lamar Odom had a baby that died of SARS. No, I'm not sorry. SIDS. SIDS. SID and infant death syndrome, which is just tragic and absolutely awful. I didn't know that, but SARS would have been crazy too. And that was before he met. That was like, you know, 20 years ago or 18 years ago. I don't even know. It is a really, really powerful documentary. You guys, Lamar Odom, while we were all watching the Kardashians and their wedding and then I never really watched their spin off Chloe and Lamar. I would catch it if it was on TV here and there, but I was never, you know, like it wasn't must see TV for me. He was so effed up. This man was daily using and Chloe was the biggest enabler of him ever. She was truly following him around, picking up syringes and drug paraphernalia around the house on a daily basis to protect him. She was 24 when they got married. Remember, they got married after 30 days. He was 24. He was a Laker and was still somehow for a little bit able to pull off doing all those drugs and playing the game. And he was just getting completely obliteratingly high all the time, like severe, severe. And then one time he went off to Big Bear, like he would just go missing for days. And he went off to Big Bear and he's in some sort of like motel, like probably nasty ass motel off the freeway with some chick because he just openly was effing all these other women. Chloe wasn't 100% sure, but she found out. And just, oh my God, Araceli, I have to come back to your question. I kind of remember that. Okay, sorry. I'll get back to that in a second. So he has a woman that he's sleeping with, like a prostitute, I imagine. Maybe not, but just some woman. So he's effing her and he's doing severe amounts of coke and he's high off his ass that this woman picks up the phone, his phone, and calls his mother-in-law, Chris, and then calls Chloe. So you can imagine, you're a wife, you're sitting at home, you're multi-millionaire. And she said at this point, Kardashian was making money, but I was not that much money. I was kind of like still growing. And you get a phone call from a guy, from your husband's like mistress or sex partner or whatever, saying, I got your husband here, I just effed him. And he is like, he's not okay, you need to come and like fix this situation, you need to get him. He was so high, he was asking for drugs, money, like he just couldn't handle it. And then Lamar said that he was sitting there and he just remembers taking a massive line of coke. I'm imagining it's this long. And then here is Lamar and looks up and it's Kris Jenner coming to save him. He went into rehab, then came back out and then she saw him smoking crack after she brought him home from rehab. She was there for this guy through everything. And then she had one of these awful experiences. Remember, he had this horrible experience where he went to the bunny ranch, which I used to watch that HBO documentary or show or whatever that was so gross, sorry, but that was like so gross. And stayed out there like in the VIP house for days. And then he remember he had a like a full on he had a seizure or whatever just completely went unconscious. They called 911 he ended up going into days long coma and people thought he was going to die. Kobe went to visit everyone went to visit. Pretty crazy shit. Lamar now is sober, as far as we know, he speaks differently. Like he had so much brain damage from all this drug usage and from the coma and from the whatever, he his his speaking is a little bit off. And I actually had a hard time understanding him. But his kids who are now older were interviewed and they were they spoke so highly of him, but they said that he's like the kid. Like the son says, I feel like he's the kid and I'm the parent. So drugs. Yeah, Christine, Kristen says they enabled him but also saved his life, but the the generous and Kardashians. And then you get moments of Bruce forgot about Bruce Jenner. He shows up before Caitlin. It was still Bruce at the time. Interesting. And Khloe Kardashian has had a glow up like you wouldn't believe. I mean, we all know this. We all know that they've all had glow ups. But when you see all this footage of Khloe and Lamar, it's shocking. He looks like she looks like a completely different person than how she looks in the interview. Okay, so watch that if you're interested. It's pretty depressing, but it's actually, you know, it was it was revealing and good. Okay. There is an interesting comment from Araceli here. And I wish more than anything I could find that episode when I talked about this recently. And I'm saying recently, probably a year or so ago, I did a rewatch of I started rewatching summer house early seasons and I did a rewatch of the season when Luke came. And I think it was the season that he came or maybe was the right the season right after he came when Hannah was gone. And I said, and I don't remember this now, but I said this, I mean, now I remember it because you brought it up to me, that Amanda was acting in a way she was like fighting with Luke and now I remember what happened. Hannah was there. She was mad at Luke for something. Right. I have to remember the storyline. And all I said when I was talking about it here on the show was it felt like Amanda had a crush on Luke, like a serious crash on him. And she was really upset. Like it her anger towards him never came off as like a genuine it came off as I want you to like me energy. Now I need to rewatch the season. And rewatch I can't remember where it was. I have to. Oh my gosh, this is hilarious. Joey Los Angeles says there's a bar the mint in West LA. Yes, I've been there that has a big mural has a big mural of Bruce on the men's bathroom and Caitlin on the women's. That's actually kind of funny. Um, was that when Hannah was lying about being broken by Luke? Maybe I'm going to have to go back and rewatch that Natalie made it to a live right as we wrap right as we wrap. Well, you guys, I adore you. I love you. Thank you for being here on Daily Dose of Donna. Make sure to subscribe, like, tell your friends if they want big summerhouse deep dives. And we will talk about everything. I'm sure this will die down in the next couple of days. And new stuff will pop on up. And that's why I'm here daily. I love you guys. Thank you for being here and I'll see you tomorrow. Bye.