Shawn Stockman's On That Note

Jo Koy

76 min
Nov 26, 20255 months ago
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Summary

Joe Koy joins Sean Stockman to discuss his journey from struggling comedian to one of the world's most successful touring performers, covering his origin story, heritage, production philosophy, and mentorship of emerging comedians. The conversation explores the importance of sound design in comedy specials, the cultural significance of comedy nights like Fat Tuesdays, and how personal authenticity drives long-term success in entertainment.

Insights
  • Sound quality and technical production are as critical to comedy specials as the jokes themselves—audience engagement depends on crisp audio mixing and strategic monitor placement
  • Authenticity and consistent character off-stage are essential to sustained success; audiences connect with comedians who maintain the same energy and values in public and private life
  • Throwaway programming slots (Fat Tuesdays, Chocolate Sundays, Asian Invasion nights) historically generated disproportionate talent and revenue, yet received minimal industry recognition or respect
  • Taking control of your own production and creative direction early, even with limited resources, builds the expertise and autonomy needed to scale successfully
  • Mentorship and elevating emerging talent creates reciprocal loyalty and community; comedians who invested in opening acts built sustainable touring ecosystems
Trends
Vinyl records experiencing resurgence among younger audiences seeking tangible music experiences and album artwork engagementComedians increasingly directing and producing their own specials rather than outsourcing creative control to studiosNostalgia-driven content and experiences (mall culture, physical media) resonating with Gen Z despite digital alternativesImportance of sound engineering and acoustic design becoming recognized as core production discipline in comedy and live entertainmentMulti-hyphenate entertainment careers (comedian-producer-director-actor) becoming standard for sustained industry successCultural heritage and family storytelling becoming central to comedic identity and audience connectionStadium and arena touring becoming standard for top-tier comedians, requiring technical sophistication previously reserved for music toursMentorship pipelines in comedy clubs creating generational talent ecosystems independent of traditional media gatekeepers
Topics
Comedy Special Production and Sound DesignStand-Up Comedy Career DevelopmentFilipino-American Heritage and Cultural IdentityLive Performance Technical RequirementsComedy Club History and Cultural NightsMentorship in Entertainment IndustryArena and Stadium Comedy ToursTattoo Art and Cultural SignificanceMusic's Role in Memory and EmotionParenting in Entertainment IndustrySocial Media vs. Outdoor EngagementVinyl Records and Physical Media ResurgenceCreative Control and Artistic AutonomyNostalgia Marketing and Experience DesignDiversity in Comedy Spaces
Companies
Netflix
Distributed multiple Joe Koy comedy specials including 'Coming in Hot,' 'In His Elements,' 'Live from the Los Angeles...
Mervins
Department store where Joe Koy worked at 18; issued employee credit card that negatively impacted his credit for 37 y...
The Comedy Store
Iconic comedy club where Fat Tuesdays night became most lucrative and talent-generating event in comedy history
Laugh Factory
Comedy club that hosted Chocolate Sundays, a successful cultural comedy night similar to Fat Tuesdays
Vogue Philippines
Published cover story on 108-year-old Filipino tattoo artist Whang-Od, which became international phenomenon after Jo...
Costco
Membership warehouse that in 1980s was restricted to business owners and restaurant operators, creating access disparity
People
Joe Koy
One of world's most successful touring comedians; sold out Los Angeles Forum six times and performing stadium tour in...
Sean Stockman
Host of podcast; childhood friend and family of Joe Koy; discusses music's universal language and entertainment indus...
Evelyn Magluyad
Joe Koy's aunt; first Filipino to represent Philippines in Olympics floor exercise; 108-year-old traditional tattoo a...
Dana Carvey
Comedy special inspired Joe Koy's sound design approach; prioritized perfect audio mixing in his own special production
Matt Reif
Opened for Joe Koy at age 18-19; identified early as having total package of talent, charisma, and confidence
Corey Holcomb
Mentored Joe Koy by taking him on road tours including yacht comedy shows with Earthquake
Cedric the Entertainer
Headliner who Joe Koy opened for; encouraged Joe to work harder with 'I got the gasoline' mentality
Gary Owen
Hosted Fat Tuesdays at Comedy Store; managed stage time and mentored emerging comedians including Sean Stockman
Guy Tory
Given keys to Tuesday night at Comedy Store; transformed it into Fat Tuesdays, most lucrative and talent-generating n...
Steve Harvey
Emerged from Fat Tuesdays; generates billions in revenue for Hollywood through television and entertainment empire
Chris Tucker
Emerged from Fat Tuesdays comedy night at The Comedy Store
Monique
Emerged from Fat Tuesdays comedy night at The Comedy Store
DL Hughley
Emerged from Fat Tuesdays comedy night at The Comedy Store
Kevin Hart
Hosted and elevated Chocolate Sundays at Laugh Factory; created successful comedy night ecosystem
Pookie Wilson
Created and managed Chocolate Sundays at Laugh Factory; pioneered cultural comedy night concept
Michael Jackson
Joe Koy uses Michael Jackson impression as closer in comedy sets; influenced by his music and performance style
Whang-Od
108-year-old Filipino Kalinga tattoo artist; tattooed Joe Koy with traditional hand-tapping method on mountain in Phi...
Zyborg
Joe Koy's primary tattoo artist; created majority of his ink work; introduced to Sean Stockman by Joe Koy
Byron Allen
Became billionaire by acquiring late-night television ad slots and selling own advertising, similar to Apollo model
Quotes
"You're living the extras on your DVD right now. Like you already made your DVD. That everything you wanted in life is your DVD. This is your DVD. And now you're living the bonus features on the DVD."
Chase (former opener for Joe Koy)End of episode
"The journey is the best part of this entire career. The rocks, the bumps, the potholes, all that. In the words of Michael Jackson, don't stop till you get it. Until you get enough."
Joe KoyFinal advice segment
"I need it. And that was inspired by Dana Carvey. And then of course, when I started playing arenas, I, I, that's when I was like, oh, for sure. Oh, this is not. Yeah. This isn't a theater anymore."
Joe KoySound design discussion
"Music is one of the only forms of time travel. It really is. It really is. So you can hear something just like you said, it'll take you right back to that moment."
Sean StockmanMusic discussion
"The cream always rises. No matter what position they put you in, if you're good at what you do, you will always be recognized."
Sean StockmanFat Tuesdays discussion
Full Transcript
Hey guys, it's Joe Coyne. You're watching On That Note with my dude, my friend, my family, Sean Stockman. Here we go, ladies and gentlemen. Good day, good day, good day. Welcome to another episode of On That Note, the place where we speak a language we all understand no matter what your profession or occupation and that is music. I'm your humble host Sean Stockman and today I have family with me. This is family right here. This isn't a guest. This isn't some guy I called and said, hey, can you be a part of my podcast? You have a million followers. You must be important or something like that, nothing like that. This is my brother right here, okay? But I have to give him his flowers as I give every guest or every person here, okay? Because he's not a guest, he's family, all right? He's one of the hardest working and most successful comedians in show business. He's released several acclaimed comedy specials. I'm going to make a list of them. Here we go. Don't make him angry. In 2009, Lights Out 2012, live from Seattle 2017 on Netflix. And Joe, please correct me if I'm wrong about NAD stats, okay? Yeah, okay, all right. Coming in hot 2019 on Netflix in his elements, 2020 Netflix filmed in the Philippines, highlighting Filipino culture and talent. Live from the Los Angeles Forum, 2022, which you sold that out how many times? Sixth. Okay, six, six times. That's not bad. Hey man, go for seven next time, all right? Stop being an underachiever, all right? God damn it. These specials have cemented his status as one of the most popular touring comedians in the world, often selling out arenas. That's what he does. He's been a stand-up comedian of the year at the Just For Labs Comedy Festival in 2018. Multiple sold-out arena tours, as we just mentioned, including historic shows at venues like the Los Angeles Forum, like I just mentioned, and his sold-out stadium tour in 2026 with Gary Biele Glacier. Am I right? Crazy. Okay, yes, pretty crazy. Sofie. Yeah, Sofie. He's doing Sofie. He's making you laugh, about 60,000 people laughing. Okay? He's recognized as one of the most successful Asian American comedians in history with an audience that spans all races, creeds, and colors. He is a father, a brother, a writer, producer, movie star, world-renowned comedian for the people, a proud Filipino and one of my very good friends. He's family, actually. Ladies and gentlemen, please give it up for Mr. Joseph Glen Herbert, a.k.a. Joe Coy. Hey, thank you. Thank you, sir. I love you, Sean. I love you, too. I love you, Sean. I love you, too. Wait, you forgot Brooklyn, though. Oh. Brooklyn was my last special. Oh, Brooklyn. Yes. That was the last special on Netflix. That one came out last year. Yeah, that came out last year. Rocked it. Funny as hell. Thank you. You can check that out on Netflix as well. Yes. Do I leave it here or move it? Whatever. Do what you want. It's about you today. No, I'm good. How you doing, man? I'm good. I'm good. Thank you. Yes. You know what I'm saying? You always have to come nicely groomed. Well, every time I see him, it's always nicely groomed. Well, it is my show and people talk about you online. So it's like, I don't want people commenting like, damn, he's like a freaking bomb. Like, look at him. Like, did he prepare for this shit? Like, are those house slippers? Yeah, right. Is that his bedroom behind him? Right, right, right. Did he brush his teeth? You know what I mean? Welcome to Laundry Day. This show is stocked, man. You know what I'm saying? It's like, you know, I got to coordinate. You know what I mean? Hey, man, listen, first off, how'd you come up with your professional name? Joe Coy? Yeah. So Joe Coy is my nickname. So like you said earlier, my real name is Joseph Glenn Herbert. And I used to tour as Joseph Herbert. Well, I didn't tour. I did open mics as Joseph Herbert and it would always be like, you know, me defending the name, explaining the name. But I would always say my name wrong, Joseph A. Bear, Joseph Hebert. And it's like, so I'd always have to like first five minutes to just be talking about my name. Right. And it was just like, I just wanted to get to the jokes. And then I was with my cousin Mona. Her mom is Evelyn, my auntie Evelyn. And I never thought of it. I just looked at Mona. I was like, you know, let's try and change my name. Like, and I go, what about Joseph Glenn? Like I knew Michael J. Fox had to put a J there because there was another Michael Fox. Oh, how about that? So I always knew that in an interview. I was like, oh, he put a J there because there was another Michael Fox or something like that. So I go, maybe I'll change. Maybe I'll take my middle name, Joseph Glenn or Glenn Joseph. Right. Couldn't figure out anything. And then literally it was like, it was like a scene in the movie. My auntie Evelyn was like, Joe, go eat. She always called me Joe. Right. Joe, go eat. And me and Mona looked at each other. I was like, Joe, go. Wow. Joe, go. So I've been going up as Joe. Yeah. You know, I started in 89. Yeah. And then I got coming in hot and I started getting interviews for coming in hot like 2017. I was getting all these interviews. And one of the questions was like, where'd you come up with your nickname? Kind of like what you were asking. Yeah. And I didn't have a story. You know what I mean? I just go, oh my auntie Evelyn just called me Joe Coy. So I always went with it. Yeah. They go, what does it mean? And I didn't know what it meant. So I don't know. It was just a nickname. She called me Joe Coy and literally I took my aunt out to eat and I looked at her and I go, auntie Evelyn, why do you call me Joe Coy? Right? And she goes, I don't call you Joe Coy. And literally it's like that moment where we're just staring at each other. I'm like, no, you call me Joe Coy. No, I don't say Joe Coy. You say Joe Coy. I don't say Joe Coy. And I'm like, what? Yeah, you call me Joe Coy. And she's like, no, I don't. You say Joe Coy. What I call you is Joe Coy. Your nickname is Joe Coy. Joe Coy. For some reason you think I'm saying Joe Coy. I go, bitch, it's been 30 years. Like, you know how much merch I have with the letter Y at the end? All my merch is wrong. That's not my fault. You keep saying Joe Coy. Well, you could have told me it was wrong. Well, you never asked. Yeah. That's what she said. You never asked. I even watch your TV show and says Joe Coy. I'm like, who the fuck is that? And literally, and then she explained what Joe Coy means. And in my language, co, KO means my. My nickname is my Joe. So she always call me Joe Coy. My Joe. Joe Coy. Yeah. So my nickname is my Joe. So cool. And she gives everyone in the family nicknames. And here's the thing. Here's the confusing part. It all ends with like a Y. You know what I mean? Like, Lengoy. Yeah. Lengoy. My auntie Lynn, she called her Lengoy. And then Mona, my cousin, her daughter, she called her Mona Gay. Mona Gay. And then, and then my auntie Belle, I don't know where she came up with this nickname, but she calls her Bang Bang. I don't want to ask her. Okay. Okay. Why she calls her Bang Bang. I don't want to know. She is the youngest out of the sisters. She had to do what she had to do. Right. Right. Well, that's very interesting that your name came from you not hearing your auntie. Yeah. That's exactly it. And it had a has a ring to it. And it fit. Yeah, it fits. And I love it. And I love her for it. Yeah. And so do the people. It's a world renowned name. Big shout out to my auntie Evelyn, by the way, and not a lot of people know this. She was actually the first Filipino to ever represent the Philippines in the Olympics on the floor exercise. So there's a guy that just won gold. Yeah. For the Philippines. Oh God, I always stumble on his name. But anyway, he was the first to win a gold, but he the first was my aunt to represent the Philippines. Yeah. Cause everyone thinks, you know, he was the first and he is, he's the first to win the gold. I'm so proud of him. Yeah. You know, I thanked him and said, Pinoy pride and all that. But I also want people to know that my auntie Evelyn was in the Olympics with Muhammad Ali, Cassius Clay's, what he was going by at that time. And her name is Evelyn Magluyad. You can check out all her stats and you'll see it. She was the first. Shout out to Auntie Evelyn. Yeah. Give it up. Evelyn Magluyad. And for years, we couldn't say anything because she, she was invited to the, the world games or something like for the 84 Olympics, whatever it is. We don't remember what is, but she was invited from the Philippines to be a judge. Okay. And when she landed at LAX, my other aunt from Bakersfield picked her up and they never reported back. And that's how she became an American. Okay. And that's his true story. And for years, we could tell anybody. Yes. But now I don't care. You know what I mean? She's, she's in her late seventies. She, you know, she's legal now. She's legal ice. Yeah. She's legal. I was going to say. She got, she's five and a half. Yeah. Don't go looking for my aunt. She's good. She's good. Leave her to hell alone. But yeah, in that buddy for years, man, she hears like if it was because we worked together at Mervins one time and like, you know, you'll hear an ambulance call by, I'm like, no, no, you're good. That's not for you out there. Just keep all the sweatshirts. He said, he said Mervins. Mervins. Mervins. Mervins is the first department store that ruined my credit for the rest of my life. Cause I got a job there when I was 18 right out of high school. And the first thing they gave all their employees was a $200 credit card. Oh yeah. That's how they got you here. You get 50% off. Plus you can use your credit card. Bra. Yeah. Bra. I'm like 39 trying to buy a house. They're like, have you ever heard of Mervins? I'm like, what the fuck? Yeah. You owe $290. Fucked up your whole credit. I was 18. That doesn't count. Right? No, that counts. Your credit score is 321. Mervins is highlighted. Mervins fucked me for 37 years, bro. They got apartments for you to write down. Yeah. I don't know why you're looking at a house. You can't even pay the old sweats off from Mervins. That's a true story. Shout out to Mervins. I had to hire a credit, like whatever the credit card lawyer to fix my credit. It was so bad. It was Mervins and they had to dig so deep for it. But Mervins? They couldn't find it. They were like, we don't know what it is, Joe. Oh, right. Well, because it's Mervins. Yeah. And it was like 1990 and they couldn't find it. They're like, there's an outstanding palace that keeps collecting interest. Wow. And you need to pay it and that's what's affecting your credit score every year. And then they finally found it. They go, have you ever heard of Mervins? I go, have you? Has anyone? Never trust a department store that's built next to a Ralph's. Right. Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. If Ralph is next to your department store, get out of that department store. Run out of that place. It's not good. It's giving employees incentives like credit card. I am 18. They hooked you. Yeah, probably Robinson's May was probably another one that fucked a lot of people. Mervins and Robinson's May was another one. Yeah, they went after the employees real quick. Yeah. It was their way of keeping the money in house. So they gave all the employees credit cards, low credit cards. I remember the lady in whatever they're called, the people in the back, the managers, whatever. And they were like, and this is going to help build your credit. And think about it. Why would you go to Macy's and pay top price when you can just buy yourself here? We'll give you your employee discount and then you can use your credit card and then you can pay your credit card off. Like it's a win-win. I'm like, bruh. Let me get $7,000 worth of fleece. Right. And two ties for my work. Bruh. Fleece though. Fleece. They had a Russell, Russell. You remember Russell? Yes, Russell Brand. They had a whole Russell wall. Yeah. And they had every color. I would fold it. That was my job was to fold the fleece wall. And you went all in on fleece. They called the fleece wall. Mervins, triple X. Are they open anymore? Are they completely gone? Yeah. They're all gone. I remember there were some ones here. Yeah, they're called Vaughns now. Stater brothers. Yeah. They're called the dollar store now. Yeah, right. And this way the shoes used to be. Yeah, that's what the shoes. That was old cheese. Hey, speaking of Filipino pride. Yeah. One thing we have in common because like I told you guys, we're family and he introduced me to his tattoo artist. Yeah. Zyborg. Shout out to Zyborg. And as you can see, I'm inked up everything with the exception of one tattoo is all done by Zyborg. Yeah. I want to comment on the ones that you have because you tell me some interesting stories about how a lot of them represent your heritage. Yeah. But there's one in particular. Yeah. That's extremely special. Tell me the meaning of the one that you got in the Philippines. Yeah. And the one odd. Yeah. She's a hundred and eight. And you know, it's the tap. Also, you got the tap. Yeah. It hurt. Well, she's a hundred and eight. So I don't think she understands what tapping. Threshold. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We called it sledge hammering. There was like a lemon. I don't know what the thorn is, but it's like a lemon thorn is what you and it's on this piece of bamboo stick and and she taps it, you know what I mean? And, you know, she can only do her signature now, which is the three dots. Yeah. This has been a five year journey to go see her. I remember when she was a hundred and two or something like that. And I was like, I have to get my arm blessed by this woman. Like this is the closest thing to, you know, that era, you know, like the warriors. You know what I mean? Like she's not that far removed from them. You know, so I need, I need this ink in my body. And I remember telling the people at Vogue about how I wanted to do this journey and they went up and interviewed her and she got the cover of Vogue and it became like this international like phenomenon. Like the photo of her on this cover was like legendary. I think it was the first time Vogue Philippines ever did duplicate copies of the cover because it was so popular. It's sold out like that. Like, sure. And she was beautiful. You know what I mean? She looked so beautiful. And I remember like, man, I missed my opportunity. And then next, you know, like three years later, I'm like, I looked at Gemma because I was at the Moa Arena and I go, look, I'm going to perform. But the next day I need to go up that mountain. I need to get to the top of that mountain and have this woman bless my arm. That's beautiful. It took 32 hours to go up and down. And I'm not, I'm not joking, man. It, it sucked. That was the rough. I have sleep apnea. First of all, yeah. So like I need to pull over and have some type of wall outlet so I can breathe. Right. I can't just take a nap like you guys. I need a full giant. Yeah. Yeah. I, I, the same thing that started Marty's car and back to the future. I, I scrapped to my face. Right. And, um, and it was a journey. Like we literally was driving for like 10 hours and we had to pull over and we got this hotel room just so I could take a nap for two hours. So I could plug my machine in. Then we woke up and then literally got back on the road for another nine hours. Just get to top where the rice fields are. Like, you know, like this is the seventh wonder of the world. Like one, it's one thing that I'm meeting this 108 year old Filipino folklore. Yeah. Right. Like she's, she's a goddess in our, our mind now. You know what I mean? And, and here I am at the top of this mountain was seeing all these beautiful rice, uh, rice fields. You know what I mean? And, and finally it's like, she'll, she'll be, she'll, she just give her a moment. We're going to have, you know, we're going to have the time. Your time is coming up. Right. So we went up there and eight and I'm eating with the, you know, the, the natives, you know what I mean? We're eating at the top of this mountain. And then all of a sudden, you know, Charles, the guy, the guide was like, she's ready to see you. I was like, I remember all of our hearts were like, yo, we're about to see her. We came down the steps and she's sitting there on this little cushion and you just see her man. Like it was, it was unbelievable. Yeah. It was unbelievable to see her like at 108 just, did she say anything? Oh, she talked to me. Yeah. Yeah. You gotta remember, she's covered. She's covered all in, you know, her whole body. So she don't know anything else, but tap, right? And she looked at my arms, you know what I mean? And she goes, and she doesn't speak English at all. I see. And she, and she's saying the word and then the, the guys translate. He's like, she's saying machine, machine. I go, yes, machine. And she's like, oh, she's looking at everything. Yeah. Critiquing everything. Right. Right. Wow. And now I'm like, I shouldn't have got this at all. I love a Zyborg. I feel small now. What's his name? He has no name. Machine. Yes. Machine. Erase it all. Erase it all. Right. Right. Like, huh. But no, she should compliment it. She loved it. You know what I mean? But she, you know, she's, yeah. She's OG. She's OG, bro. She's a little machine. Right. Right. But we just got electricity in 2023. She's like, I do lemon. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We get the lemon needles and then we make lemonade. That's crazy. We make our same kind of ash. Now, where is it exactly? It's right here by the sun. That's it. Man, this thing was bleeding. I'm about to post the video real soon. I was about to say, I'm sure you documented all of this. Yeah. Oh, we did. Yeah. And it was not a safe journey, Sean, but like, like the bridge going across the, the, the two mountains. Yeah. Like, man, let's just say, let's just say, hey, I want everyone to do this journey, but like, hey man, the resources that they have, they built what they could. And it's safe for them. You know what I mean? Yeah. And it's, it serves their lifestyle and it, and I'm not trying to discourage anybody, but it's just like, whew. There was a zipline that shooting people. If you don't want to take the bridge, they had a zipline that shoot you across, right? But the cable is hooked up to a car tire and an engine and then pull that thing across the mountain. My son did that. And I literally, are you serious? I literally begged him not to do it. Right. And then I hugged him as if I'm never seeing my son again. And I could say, because his girlfriend did it and she was like, I don't care. I'm going to die on this thing. I'm going to. And I literally looked at him and I hugged him. I was like, all right, man, like just go do it. Right. See his footage. If I can send you guys footage, you'll freak out. There's no see with the hardest. There's not even a seat, a seat belt. If there's a gust of wind, they're flipping. Hell no. I'm not even joking, man. Like I'm not trying to exaggerate. How far across, how long did it take? 30 seconds across the mountain pass. How far are you? Hell no. How far do you think that is with the deepest valley? Like the deepest value you can pick up, man, like a skyscraper. Bro, for real. And I don't. And just crossing the bridge, man, we all had to figure out how to move our legs at the same time. Cause we went opposite. It was swaying like steps, not even. So you did it. You were living their best life on top of that mountain, man. And that food was impeccable. Was there an impact though? Yes. It was 32 hours up and down. I'll talk about the zip line. I didn't do the zip line. My son did. Oh, I was not doing that. Yeah. No, I'm going to zip line. Yeah. I'm cool. Well, that thing was literally a zip line, zipper line made out of the same material. Now, well, God bless you and welcome back. Yeah. Thank you, man. Yeah. And it was the best journey. And you know what? And I will say this, I will say this, man, it's things like that that make you like, like I, I look at this every single day and remember that journey, man. And just everything and kissing her and loving her and, and you know, we're donating to her and yeah, man, we're doing all kinds of stuff. It's, it was deeper than the actual tattoo. It was a spiritual journey. Yes, it was. It was something that connected you even deeper with your heritage with, you know, you being Filipino. And just like you said, that woman is the closest to those legendary warriors that you had to read about and heard stories about. She is a living legend. That's awesome. Man, and she's strong, bro. Yeah. And it makes you realize just how spoiled we are. So like the way I'm talking is talking like a spoiled person. You know what I mean? And that's why you see them smile and you see them happy because they don't have much. And what we do have makes us smile. Yes. Right. And maybe sometimes we need to take things away from this generation. I agree. I agree. I agree. But sometimes I go back into my own childhood and we were just talking about it. And I was poor. I was poor in Southwest Philadelphia. Yeah. You know, sometimes the lights weren't on, sometimes the heat wasn't on, but I can't recall any terrible, you know, how people talk about how traumatic the hood is and the ghetto is and stuff like that. And for some it is. But for me, the hood was beautiful. Yeah. I had my friends. I played every day. Like I played jump rope and football and basketball and all that other stuff. Like I was a kid. And all I remember was those times and my parents, you know, my mother and my father at certain points, different points in my life, just taking care of me and showing me the best childhood I could. They allowed me to live life as a youngster. Yeah. So and I missed those simple times. Yeah, we didn't have a lot. No. But we didn't have to. We had our imagination. We had our friends. And that's all we needed. Yeah. If you had a bike, a piece of plywood and a loose brick, that's all day. You can jump that ramp. Yeah. Until the sun went down. Till the sun went down. Yeah. That's what it was all about. It was all about. Yeah. Remember when the two cars on the side of the road was the goal? Yes. Car. Car. Car. Everybody that was a universal get the fuck out the way. Yeah. It was awesome. That's so true, man. When you live this lifestyle that we live, you know what I mean? And then you go back to the mountains of the Philippines. Like that. Like everyone needs to understand that journey. Yeah. And it is a wake up call. Yeah. Yeah. They don't have much, but they have, they have what they need to make themselves happy. You touched on kind of what you mentioned about the kids and we obviously were both fathers. And sometimes it's really hard to show them that level of simplicity because there's so many things accessible to them. They live in a privileged environment. Yeah. So to tell them, hey, go outside. Yeah. Take a walk. I've been saying that on stage, Sean. It's crazy that you've been saying that. Oh, Jacob. Literally, I say that on stage. I said it in my special go outside. I go on live and I say it go outside. Like I don't know what it is about social media and this, this infatuation, this scare us to stay inside and separate each other. But it's not really that bad. Right. Believe me, we are going through some hard times right now. But if we can just not look at this stuff right now and go outside and let's rebuild what we had, you know what I mean? I don't know, man. There's, there's, there's a real definition about go outside. Yeah. That that's missing right now. And we need to like get it back out into, into everyone's vocabulary again. Like get outside. Get outside. Stop staying inside. Yeah. It feels like it's going backwards with the technology. We were talking about earlier with robots and AI. It's like, it's only going to get worse. You're right. You're so right about that. It's like everything that's that we thought was so smart that would help us advance has actually taken us back. Right. Right. And making us caveman again. Yeah. Yeah. Like stop man. Yeah. Go outside like a man. Amazon made trillions. Yeah. Stop. Wow. Go to the mall and don't shop. Don't shop. Just experience window shopping and dreaming and people watching and enjoying air conditioning and enjoy and only having enough money for one cookie. Right. You had to eat that cookie all day. That's right. At the mall. At Mrs. Fields. Bro, I had a box. I had a boom box, right? Like this. Right. And like, I think it took, I think literally six double D batteries. Yes. Oh, for sure. In order for me to take that to the mall, I had to have like so much money for batteries. Right. Right. And then you had to limit your play because you knew you were juicing. That's right. Right. So you were very selective, especially on rewind. Right. So and literally, you don't think I set that thing up in front of Mrs. Fields and dance. Bro. Yeah. Like we always danced at the mall. That was always made a cypher happen somewhere, man. Like literally, like I would get free cookies sometime because I danced. Yeah. So that's the definition of going outside. Do you think that we could ever go back there again? I think so. I think my son, I think there's a generation that that's happening right now that appreciates. They appreciate what the beautiful little tangible things that we had. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, they get to download music in seconds, but they don't get to read the credits on the back of an album. Yeah. You know what I mean? They don't get to see who produced it. Yeah. They don't get to pull the vinyl out and see the cool artwork on the vinyl or vinyl is coming back now. Yeah. Bro. Bro. Not only is vinyl coming back, it's more expensive. It's more right. Right. Right. My son is addicted. Yeah. You know what I mean? He's got he just bought, you know, anywhere from Nirvana unplugged to Lorne Hills, Miss Education. Yeah. For you not to have Miss Education at the vinyl or Boys to Men, Kooli High, like, bro. It's tapping into what we were blessed to have when it came to buying records, which was the experience. Yeah, man. The experience. I mean, I've been up the whole album cover and seeing the art and the liner notes and special thanks and a special thank you. Yeah. And then the one, the one member of the band that didn't really have a good special thing. It's just like three lines and you'd be like, that's why I didn't like them anywhere. Right. Right. Right. I never did like that one. There's always one guy, right? There's one guy in the crew. They're like, yeah, like they God, my family. Yeah. And the Mitchell family. I'm like, yo, man, shut up. Right. Right. And he'd quote, yeah. But you know what it is? It's parents like you, you, me, who are immersing our kids into what it was like. Yeah. And so my daughter, you know, Gabby, she, she sang her heart out. She's 10. Well, you met her at what the show in Vegas. She's 10, sang her heart out the whole Boys to Men show because I've immersed her into what real music, real nostalgia is, real life, like connecting. We all have to understand that no matter what you do, and I kind of mentioned it a little bit in the beginning is that music is so important to just our, our well being. Oh yeah. Like music can change your mood. It's an elixir. It can heal you. It can remind you of your past. It can remind you of your past. There's certain songs I can't listen to. Right. I can't. The minute it comes on, I have to like stop. That's right. Because it brings me to a time in my life where I'm just like, I wasn't happy there. Yeah. I mean, the family structure was bad. I don't want to hear that song right now. Is it one in particular? Oh, there's several. Yeah. There's a lot. Yeah. There's a lot of songs that I can't listen to. Yeah. You know what I mean? No disrespect to Lionel Richie, but like that album is just it, it, it, it, it, I love the album, but it brings me to a time where the divorce happened. It brought me to a time where my brother was getting arrested. It brought me to a time where my sister was kicked out of the house. Yeah. You know what I mean? It was just not a good time in Tacoma. Okay. You know what I mean? Yeah. All night long. Right, right, right. You know, that, that, that album was sick. Yeah. You know what I mean? Music is one of the only forms of time travel. It really is. It really is. So you can hear something just like you said, it'll take you right back to that moment. So don't play Lionel Richie in front of Joe Goy. Don't get me wrong. I love it, but my sister Gemma, you know, Gemma, Gemma is in love with Lionel Richie, which is crazy because she's married and she don't give two shits. She'll say it right in front of Andre. You know what I mean? Uh, I love Lionel Richie. Oh, his voice is loud. Like Gemma. Yeah. Stop Gemma. We get it. We hear this all night long. Right. Right. Oh my gosh. But yeah, like, um, but then there's, there's those songs where I'm like, I can do good songs. What are the songs that remind you of the good time? Good by love. My, my guy. My guy. Okay. I love. I hate to leave girl for a cry as I walk out that door. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Temptation is asking me to stay. Yeah. You know, you know, that background stuff. Yes. You know what I mean? Yeah. That was great. That was a great time. That just the way that vocally he, because I loved R&B, right? That was just like my life. Yeah. It was my lifeline. I remember buying a 45 of celebration. By Cool and the Gang. By Cool and the Gang. A 45. Nice. Yeah. Like I went to a record store and bought the 45. Yeah. 45 is really legit. Yeah. And, um, and it was a single. Now let's go back. That's what a single was. Now let's go back. Let's go back. Cause I like to do a segment call. We like to go back way back back in the time. Yeah. You are one of the greatest, most successful comedians ever, right? Yeah. As a child. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Welcome back to the narcissistic. Correct. I am Sean. Remember that. And always remember that. Super successful. This doesn't have alcohol in it. I need it. We can get you some. No, but, um, okay. So it's going to be watered here. I swear. Um, let's go back to when you were like 10, nine years old. Yeah. You were Gemma. You were your family. Yeah. Um, what music. What music was played around the house? The gap band. The gap band. Yeah. Yeah. Gap band. Gap band, uh, cool in the gang. So the deep R and B. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, heat wave. Heat wave. Um, earth went in fire. Okay. Yeah. You went in. Um, yeah. Okay. I can't stop. Casey and the sunshine band. Of course. Those are staples. Yeah. He wasn't black, but his band was. Yeah. And that had soul. You can't sit there and say Casey didn't have soul. No, he had hella soul. Yeah. His voice was amazing. Yeah. It's funny because thinking of him, he was one of the very few white guys that was played on R and B radio. But when you first heard him, you really didn't think that he was black. I mean, white rather. Like, you know, you thought he was a black guy, like because he was his, his voice was Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like it was very funky. Yeah. You know, and then I remember seeing him for the first time on American bandstand and my jaw dropped as a kid. I was like, this guy's, he's a white. He's a white. I was like, mama, mama. Casey white. She's like, yes, honey. Yes, honey. They did it again. They did it again. They did it again. They did it again. Dang it. I'm dancing to this white man and I'm having a good time. So okay. So you were Michael Jackson, Michael Jackson off the wall. Yeah. That's a classic. Because you're talking when I was 10. Yeah. Yeah. No, for sure. So off the wall. So when you call it or when you heard these songs, like what neighborhood type of neighborhood did you live in? Like where were there black people around? Like where they like, was it all Filipino neighborhood or one thing I loved about, you know, because I'm a military kid and I'll say this and I'll say it with pride. One thing I love about the military. Yeah. Even though it's the government. Yeah. Yeah. And one thing they really did was they created mixed races. Yes. Yes, they did. Like, and you can go back in time and really see where it started and it started the military. These soldiers would come home with these mixed babies and it started a whole sub culture generation of these two cultures that are just mixing together. Yes. You know what I mean? That would probably would have never mixed and if they didn't, we wouldn't have anything great like Tiger Woods. Right. Thank you, US Army. Thank you, US Army. First and foremost, forgetting us, Mr. Tiger Wood. I knew a lot of friends of mine as a kid that were black and Korean. So, you know, you go over to their house, you have fried chicken and kimchi. Yup. Yup. You don't think I did it? Right. Right. And this whole special was coming in hot and I do the three, I do the three voices, right? All of them are from my childhood. It's all from the military base. Yeah. And it's so funny because I was just in Seattle. I did a show in Seattle and my one of my best friends, Stephen Hunt, he came to the show and the first thing he said to everybody that would, you know, after the after party and he looked at everybody. He's very successful by the way. You know, he's got all these beautiful restaurants. I'll give you his number. So when you go to Seattle, I want you to go let him take care of you. But coming up his, his parents own the restaurant. So this is the 80s. So this before Costco was for everyone. It was only for people that owned a business or a restaurant. Right. You were allowed to have a Costco membership. Right. So imagine being a broke kid and then going to your friend's house and seeing Costco size food. Yeah. It wasn't one gallon of milk. It was eight gallons of milk. You know, it wasn't two boxes of cereal. It was six boxes of cereal in bulk. Everything was in bulk. Mana from heaven. M&M's. M&M's. 24 count box of M&M's. Like, imagine, you know, and their parents were always at the restaurant. So it was just these teenage boys live in this house and then I'm going over there. I just want to be at his house. Right. It was like food. It was like, remember that scene from Peter Pan where they were just eating all that food? Yes. That's what it was like at his house. Oh my gosh. Just bulk food everywhere. And, and he was Korean, you know what I mean? So he had the kimchi and his refrigerator. He had the Costco box of fungicles in the freezer. And then, and then I remember getting the, the, the, the fungicle and we're all eating the fungicle, but the kimchi was so overwhelming. It took over all the food in the fridge. And I'm looking at this fungicle and I'm like, it tastes like frozen kimchi. And then I remember them looking at me like, just keep licking man. The fudges in the middle. It was like a reverse tootsie pop. And I'm just licking this. And then there's the chocolate. Yeah, you gotta get through that frozen cabbage first. But bro, like, but, but we were all mixed because that was the community, man. It was our community of Koreans here, Vietnamese here, you know, white, black, and they were all mesh in because of the military. But he had to get along. But his, but, but anyway, what I'm saying is he'd let everybody know that that was his dad's voice. And it was, it was 100%. The Korean voice that I do on coming in hot is Mr. Han. And Mr. Han did not like me at his house because he would come home from work at like 2 30 in the morning because of the restaurant bar that they had. And he did not want to see a kid in his damn house eating the food. And they would always hide me in the closet. So I would hide in the closet and hope that he'd hurry up and fall asleep. And then we go back to like the food and hang it out downstairs. Cause he had a ping pong table and dirt bikes. Right. And he would go, oh, it like clock where you would always hear him go, oh, oh, oh, they're speaking back to him. So that whole voice was, was, was, was Mr. Han. And I always do this whole thing about him sounding like a, like an Asian ghost. I always do it when he was home. And now he loves me. Now he, now he loves me. But back then man, cause I wasn't doing good in school. I was always the funny one and they were really smart. You know what I mean? Those boys were really smart. And then the Vietnamese character, my next door neighbor, Richard was half black, half Vietnamese. What accent was that? No, no, no, but he spoke great. Oh, yeah. He was good looking. He had the Asian hair with the curly hair, the light brownish Vietnamese black skin. All the girls loved him. You know what I mean? The mom was Vietnamese. Dad was black. Got you. But they had this one Vietnamese kid that was full of Vietnamese. Right. Right. And I don't, I think it was his brother or it was his, his mom's nephew and she brought him to the States and his name was V and this fool could shoot man. This he could play basketball like the best one man. He was crossing over and he had a basketball right above his garage drawer and I play on and he would talk shit. Boom. Game motherfucker. That you dude. You done got no other man. Yeah. That's it dude. We done bro. Game over dude. Go home. Go home dude. What the fuck? Go home dude. Go home dude. You no good here bro. So like that, the Vietnamese accent was V. Yeah. Yeah. And that's where I got that. So like all this was from the military base. All of that was, all that was happening while Earth Wind and Fire was playing. Earth Wind and Fire bro. Or Cool and the Gang. Or Cool and the Gang. Now, now, now you've given a lot of comics. Well first off, people, they do know you for your stand up but not everyone realizes that, you know, your hands on with your production and directing your specials. How did that side of you start? By force. Yeah. You know what I mean? I didn't understand what direction and production was until I hate saying this story man. I've hit it over the head a million times but you know, and my relationship with Netflix is beautiful. Like I love everyone there. I love Ted. I love Robbie Praw. I love Joanne. I love Neil. I love everyone over at Netflix, you know, but you know, before that, you know, they passed on me. You know what I mean? And I knew my special needed to be on Netflix and I wasn't going to sell for anything else. And I went and rented a bunch of cameras and I looked into good directors and a great producer and I started this relationship with Michelle and Shannon who I still, to this day, I work with. Yeah. To this day, I'm loyal to them because they were loyal to me. And they literally knew I didn't have that much money but they knew that they could, they could piece something together to make a presentable special for Netflix and that was live from Seattle. Wow. And that's when I got the direction bug, you know, and that's when I was like, wait, this is mine and this is our money. So I wanted to look this and I started studying bro. Yeah. And that was, you know, thank God for Michelle because Michelle was like, look at all the specials. Pick your favorite ones and not just your favorite funny ones, but like, what did you like about it? And there were so many, you know what I mean? That I watched that I just loved the look and the one that stood out the most was Dana Carvey. Interesting. And the reason why it stood out more than any other special. Yeah. Why is that? And I'm, you know, I want to gatekeep but I'm not anymore. I've been telling all my friends this, but it was the sound. The sound. Yeah. And I remember watching this and I'm like, this is unlike any, this sound is so perfectly mixed. I don't know what they did, but I feel like I'm in this arena with Dana right now. I hear him crisp, but I hear the audience crisper more than any other special I've watched. For some reason, this is perfectly mixed. And I, and I show that to Michelle and I go, I need it to sound like this, whatever this is. I need this. And we figured it out. We unlocked it. And that's why when you watch live from Seattle, it is completely inspired by Dana Carvey. Wow. Yeah. And I, and you know what's funny is I, I did a podcast with Dana Carvey and, and I told him, I go, you know, you're special inspired life from Seattle. And the reason why that sound at live from Seattle sounds so ridiculously live. Yeah. There, like everyone's on top of me is because of you. And he goes, you're not going to believe this man. But I said the same thing to my director when I walked in to shoot that special. I told them that this sound has to be the best sound. And he literally told me that his sound was his priority on that special. That's interesting. It's insane. My mind blew. Man, you don't think of sound when you think of comedy. Yeah. And it's very important. It's the most important. That's why I get so mad when I go into a venue and I'm like, you guys, like, like, yes, I need soundcheck. Yeah. I need it. I need to hear me. I need to hear them. Yes. And we figured that out. You know, there's this thing that I do now with, you know, engaging with the audience, but also in real time, you know what I mean? Right. Do you have signals, hand signals? Yeah. No, no, no, no, that it's all, it's all mics and movements. Okay. And the mic and placements of my, my, my, uh, my chair. No, no, the, the, the, the wedges and my monitors, right? So they're all strategically placed into just like how you have any ears. 100%. It's the same thing, man. Like, yeah, though I'm playing in an arena, bro, and I got to give you my energy. If I cannot hear you, I can't react. I would have never, I need my timing and my joke to be in sync with you. And if we're off just by hair, the joke's not going to hit. That's right. So I need it. And that was inspired by Dana Carvey. And then of course, when I started playing arenas, I, I, that's when I was like, oh, for sure. Oh, this is not. Yeah. This isn't a theater anymore. Yeah. I need to bring in more sounds. So it was a, it was a blessing. Yeah. And in disguise that even though you started off rough and, and with a small budget, it forced you into and they made the most beautiful thing. Yeah. Seattle is beautiful. But it, absolutely. Yeah. To become the juggernaut that you are, because now you're meticulous in the right ways to make sure that every part of your, your career is the way that it needs to be. Yeah. A lot of artists, whether it's comedy, whether it's music or anything, those nuances, those particulars are normally shunned or, or shifted to somebody else. Yeah. So they're dictating what you sound like, what you look like and so on and so forth. And I feel like it's so important, even if it's this much. Yeah. The, the principle to know these things. Yeah. Because at the end of the day, it's your art. It's your work. Yeah. And you have to make sure that you feel good about what is being pushed out there. And guess what? They don't know everything. Mm hmm. They, they have their certain philosophies and techniques that they might have used on other people, but hey, I'm different. I'm way different. So I need you to take that and then do this for me. Yeah. Because I'm not that guy. Yeah. And you learned that very early. Yeah. And that's why you're again, your success is not an accident. Like what you're doing is all contingent on what you created for yourself. And that was a blessing. Thank you. You started from the ground floor. So you know what it takes to build a business outside of just being funny. Yeah. And that's why I mean, listen, it's a testament of your success. And that's why you are who you are, not just what you are, but who you are. You're one of the coolest, most down-to-earth human beings I know. Like from the first time we met, like your energy is first off is infectious. My wife loves you. My daughter loved, we love you. And it's deeper than like when I'm around Joe, like it doesn't feel like I'm around a celebrity or someone that sold out the forum six times or anything like that. One of that is on his shoulders. Like he's just a guy that likes to laugh and have a good time. And it's always a positive energy with you. And it permeates. Your comedic style is not just what you do on stage. It's your lifestyle, which is why people love you. Because the same person you are on stage, you're the same guy when you're off stage. And that's where people connect with you. That's important. Thank you, man. It's the truth. And a lot of people need to really take note on why people are successful. It's not just the art or the fame or he was funny and things like that nature. People that are successful for many years, it's deeper than that. Like you can't be successful for more than five years without being something else. Yeah. Outside of being the entertainer on stage. Oh man, thank you. We've all seen it. We've seen a lot of people burn bridges and everything when they were successful because they were assholes and they didn't treat people right and they treated people dirty. And they spoke down on people and all that other stuff. You never do that. And I love that about you. Seriously, man. You're a solid dude. I appreciate that. I'm just saying, Joe. Thank you. I mean, I know we got a bunch of other good, but I want to get to it. But I just want to give you again your flowers. You've given a lot of comics speaking to that. Their first shot is openers. Hmm. You know, how do you decide who gets that spot? Just be really, really funny and have like a really good point of view. Hmm. Hmm. And I don't like to follow softballs, right? So I don't want you to lob anything to me. I want to be able to feel like there's a fire in front of me. So I want I want to hear it. Have you ever saw? In fact, if you open for me and I don't hear that in front of me, then chances are you you're probably not going to open for me again. Mm hmm. Because I just don't want that softball. Have you ever had a moment where you saw one of your former performers headlining and thought, yep, I knew it. I knew this. I had a ton of them. Yeah. Yeah. Give us a. Matt Reif. Hmm. Took Matt Reif on the road when he was 18. Hmm. Right out of high school. Wow. 19. I knew. I was like, oh yeah, this one right here. Yeah, it's going to be big. He just had like this confidence. Hmm. He was very funny and you know, and he was young like me and and I was just like, yeah, yeah, this guy's good. So I took him on the road. Yeah, it wasn't just the jokes. It was just his persona. It was his character, his charisma, his personality. Yeah, yeah, he was funny. Yeah. And he had the total package like he had at all. I was like, oh God, well, one, you're white. Right. And you're good looking. Right. And you're very, very funny. Yeah, he is funny. So like, Matt Reif is like, let's not call. Let's call it what it is. Yeah, yeah. You've been blessed in this business and on top of that, you have a talent. So congrats. You know what I mean? But I would love to take you out there. And I took him. He couldn't even get into like, he couldn't even drink. He couldn't even go to like a bar. Right. Like he was that young. Wow. Yeah. And I took him on the road for like over a year or so. And then of course I met Batch. Yeah. Yeah, I took Batch. I ended up directing Batches special. Yeah. Adam W opened for you too. Adam, no, Adam's just done it a couple of times. OK. But I told him, come on the road with me. You know what I mean? Yeah. Come like, yeah, he's definitely got potential. Like there's a lot of cats out there. Mateo Lane. Yeah. Unbelievable talent. Not to be mistaken with our Mateo. Oh, yeah, we got one too. Yeah, he's not that funny. Mateo Lane. Mateo Lane. Mateo Lane. Mateo Lane. Not to be confused with Mateo Lane. I saw Mateo Lane at a bar, like with a pool table in front of the stage. Wow. Yeah. And like Noel was allowed to like put their drinks on the pool table. It was like that obnoxious. Right. You know what I mean? Like it's such bullshit how they, you know, when you're a comic and you're just trying to come up and it's like the promoters are like, you know, whoever's got the venue. It's like, yeah, yeah, and we're not moving the pool table. Yeah. All right. So don't even fucking encourage people to sit by the pool table or put fucking drinks on the on the on the felt. Because if they damage the felt, guess he's not getting paid. You fucko fucko the clown. So everyone sits at the fucking bar and don't touch the tool pool table because the pool table is what generates revenue at this bar. Not you. So just get up there and do your dance and then leave. Bono. Why is it so funny as we all know that guy? Yes, we do. That's what's so funny about it. We've all met this. I'm sure everybody instantly thought of the guy like soon as you started going to that voice. Dude, I had to do show, you know, I used to open for Corey Holcomb and Corey used to take me on the road. And Corey's like, Hey, we go. Hey, we're going to do this nightclub. I'm like, all right. All right. Oh. It's going to be different. It's going to be different. It's a black night. It's black night. It's black night. They're going to be sitting on the side of the dance floor. And we go to this nightclub and there's a microphone in the middle of the of the the night, the dance floor. Yeah. So you're in the round. Everyone's sitting on the perimeter. Yes, you're in the round. No, stop. Don't don't. First of all, don't call it the round. Come on. The round is a stage. Come on. Trying to keep it. No, no, no, no. This is a nightclub dance floor and the club owner. You sit around. But those who don't know that would be an arena and you perform in the middle of it. I'm just saying, man, I'm just trying to. This is a nightclub's rectangle. With fold out chairs on the outside and not even a good microphone. This is, by the way, before there were podcasts, these were considered keyboard. Right. Microphone. That's right. That's right. So before there are pods, just know that and nothing worse than being a stand up comic performing with a keyboard microphone stand. And that's what we had this damn thing. It's like the letter Z. Yeah. Bro, that's called cutting teeth, man. Man. Yeah. And yeah. And you take what you got. But yeah, Corey will put me on. And Corey always got paid, man. You know what I mean? Like we did a yacht one time. A yacht. We did this yacht where whoever the promoter was was renting these yachts, right? So whatever the yacht would be like $700 to go out for two hours, right? So that he made it a small business and made a comedy show. And then he would sell it to whatever party that was, you know, 50 bucks a ticket and you get a comedy show and food, you know, and then it's smart. Yeah. And it would be me, Corey Holcomb and earthquake and I'm opening for him. Yes. I'm opening for this yacht. You know what I mean? Right. A yacht, bro. Like people are like, yo, you're not going to believe I'm half white. Asian. How my mom's. The fact that they got earthquake, Corey, right? That's crazy. Well, yeah, but you got to understand this is like 1999 or two. I can't remember what year it was. But looking back to think that. Yeah, but see, you also got to remember that's why I keep telling this generate like these young comics that are coming up now. It's like, yeah, you got, you're allowed to just go into the improv and go up like back in our day, there were black nights. Right. And there were Asian nights and those nights were the nights that they usually turned off the lights like a Tuesday and they called it fat Tuesday. Right. That Tuesdays. That's right. H. A. T. right. That's right. That's right. The most lucrative night. Yes. In comedy store history and generated the most talent in comedy store history. And believe me, there's a lot of talent that came out of the comedy store. Yeah. From Robin Williams to Richard prior to everybody. I'm not disrespecting what what they did, but look at the billions of dollars that came out of fat Tuesdays. The one night that should have been off the night that in the owner's mind is thinking, Hey, look, we don't make money on Tuesday. So we just to make money. We'd rather it be closed. So we shut it off. But you know what guy? Here you go. And gave this young kid named Guy Tory the keys on a Tuesday night. And it became the most lucrative night. All right. And not only that generated billions of dollars for a Hollywood. Let's just start with Steve Harvey, Cedric, the entertainer, Chris Tucker. Yeah. Monique. DL. Yeah. That's not even it, man. Like how many kids? One through there. You know what I mean? Joe Tory. You know what I mean? Gary Owen. Yeah. The list. I can't even name him because I'm like in a spot right now. Yeah. Kevin. No, we remember. Yeah. Kevin. Like Tiffany. Like we all did that night. Martin Lawrence. Well, Martin was already a thing. Martin already had a death. He would he would appear every once in a while at the no, no, he'd always go up. But what I'm saying is what curated the the the new black billionaires for Hollywood, you know what I mean? Yes. Which each one of those guys generate billions of dollars for Hollywood. Like Steve Harvey, how many billions of dollars does he generate just on his show? Yeah. Family few. Right. You compare that Tuesdays in the comedy world to what the Apollo has done as well. The Apollo. The amount of talent. Okay. So the different. Well, it's the cool thing. I did the Apollo, by the way. I want it. Yeah. And here's the thing with the Apollo. Okay. Back in the day, TV would would all of a sudden be like and that and that. And that ends our evening of broadcasting here on NBC. Right. Right. We're going to play the national anthem now and an eagle is going to fly. Right. Right. And after that, we're going to sell our airtime space to infomercials. And that was showtime at the Apollo showtime at the Apollo would play at that time. Yeah. 1 32 o'clock in the morning and it would never be a fixed time. So if you were in Georgia, probably air at 2 30. If you were in Seattle, it probably air at like, you know, 12 30. And they just got the spots that they got. Right. And same thing with Byron Allen. He figured out that wheelhouse. And that's why Byron Allen is a billionaire because he figured out, oh, okay, I'll take those spots and I'll sell my own ads. Showtime in the Apollo was just like a showcase for black talent that no one's ever going to see on regular TV. You know what I mean? And we enjoyed the fact that, you know, the audience is going to tell you who's good and who's bad. You know what I mean? And then Sam is going to come out and sweep your ass off the stage and tap dance. You know what I mean? Right. Or who I forget his name. But yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, man. And that was the most amazing because it wasn't regular TV. There was Star Search. And then there was the Apollo. And I preferred the Apollo. Yeah. You know, it's so it's so crazy that like with these networks with Fat Tuesdays and with the Apollo and a lot of the things, even with radio, where hip hop was only played after midnight. Yeah. Like back in 87 and 88, those things were throwaways to these networks, but it made them the most money. Yeah. So it kind of pisses you off because it's like we knew that the talent was there. We knew it was good and you guys just kind of threw it away and you still made money off of us. Yeah. Yeah, it's crazy. It sucks. And still didn't get its love or respect. No, still going to love or respect. We didn't say that. Knowing how much money they were clocking it. That's why I was asking if it was comparable to Fat Tuesdays because it was kind of a throwaway. It was like disregarding all the talent that came out of the Apollo and Fat Tuesdays. But the thing with Hollywood is all these clubs did the same thing. So it's like the Laugh Factory had Chocolate Sundays, which is still to the same Pookie Wilson. Right. Yeah. Pookie's a genius and you know, and shout out to Kevin because Kevin really like excelled that. Like when Kevin started doing Chocolate Sunday and Pookie was part of his like management, like that combo right there was just untouchable. You know what I mean? And then. You're speaking about Kevin Hart by the way. Yeah. Yeah. You know, Chris Spencer hosting and just like that whole like that was my love. Like I wasn't getting invited to the White Rooms and White, by the way, White Room was Friday Saturday, the money room. Right. You know what I mean? And it had usually a stacked white list. You know what I mean? Of comics, you know? And then you get your, you get your, you know, your Chris Rocks every now and then or whoever, you know what I mean? But mostly it was stacked. So you if you wanted to see diversity or a diverse show, you had to do the off night. So Chuck Chocolate Sunday, Fat Tuesday, refried Fridays, which was the Mexican night. Right. You know what I mean? Asian Invasion, which was the Asian show. But what you just real, you know, let us all realize is that those nights were just as lucrative and just as successful as the quote unquote, white nights. Yeah. For sure. Yeah. Oh, 100%. And but we were going and turning the lights on on a night that they usually turned them off. And that's, that's the crazy part. And people need to recognize that. Like what, especially Fat Tuesdays, especially Guy Tory, Tory, to take on that night in the main room, by the way, the main room is the biggest room at the store. It's massive. You know what I mean? And, and to take on that responsibility to like turn on the lights. Yeah. You know what I mean? And can you give me a staff? Like what? And then still like next, you know, you got, you got the RZA in the audience. You know what I mean? You got Quentin Tarantino in the audience. Yeah. You know, scouting talent. Yeah. It was talent. Yeah. Because they saw talent. Yeah. I mean, I think I'm pretty sure that's how RZA and Quentin met. I don't know how they met. Yeah. But I remember doing those nights and seeing RZA and I remember seeing Quentin and that's crazy. They weren't together, but all of a sudden Kill Bill comes out. Moral of the story is the cream always rises. No matter what position they put you in, if you're good at what you do, you will always be recognized. So no matter what people try to place you as or under or anything like that, just keep doing you just like Joe was showing you. Like from, from all these little throwaway shows and things that nature came some of the most successful, most prolific comics the world has ever seen. Yeah, man. On throwaway shows. Yeah. How about that? I still talk about George Wilbur. I hope I'm saying it right. But George Wilbur Wilbur and is like, he's just a legend in the black comedy world, black comedy world, right? George Wilbur, he always wore a suit, whatever. Yeah. And you don't know this. I used to be on the black college comedy tour in the 90s. Yeah. I everything was black for me. Right. Right. They grabbed me like this. You know what I mean? The comedy clubs did it. We don't trip all color. We don't trip all color. You funny. You funny. Yeah, man. And it was so dope because Gary Owen was hosting Fat Tuesdays. Right. So mind you, I have a 90. I have a 1991 Honda Honda Honda Prelude with a broken headlight. This is when the headlights flip up. Yeah. Only one flipped up. Yeah. So it was winking. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then my. And then my. Yeah. I was winking the whole time. And then my tail light was broken. I had a hole in it. And I'm driving to the store. Like because I'm just trying to break in to Hollywood. And I'm trying to get whatever stage time I can get. Right. Yeah. And of course, Guy, you know, I get on at the store, right? And Gary gets me on, right? So here I am. I just traveled six hours. I'm broke. I only have enough money for gas and maybe one meal to go back home to Vegas because I was living in Vegas. And I'm just waiting, right? My name is on the list, but it can always change if someone walks in. Right. If rock rock walks in, you ain't going to. That's right. Rock about to do an hour. Right. Right. So this night it's George Wilbur. And I know who George is. I've seen him on the Black College Comedy Tour. He's an animal, right? And I'm looking. I'm looking at Gary. I've told Gary this story to his face. And I'm watching Gary and him just talking and just laughing. You know what I mean? We're just. Yeah, yeah. OK, all right. And I'm like, this motherfucker is going to bump me. I already know it. I already know it. And Gary goes, hey, man, George is going to go up real quick. All right. It's like, I'm like, I look at Gary. I'm like, Gary, don't do this. I go, Gary, you know, you know, no, no, no, no, no. George said he's just going to do five. And then he goes, I'm like, Gary, please. Just let me go up and you can cut my 15 into two. Right. Just let me do two minutes. Right. And then you can put George up. He's like, come on, man, that's going to be good, man. George is going to go up real quick. And then you got this. All right, man, hug me. And I'm just sitting in this chair packed house. Right. It's packed. Right. And George goes up there and immediately this girl says some something about his suit. Oh, Lord. Right. Because he had like this back in the day, the Steve Harvey suits. Yeah. You just get shiny. A lot of extra material. Too many buttons. Right. Bra. He decapitated this. Yeah. Decapitated. Just 30 minutes of material. Her soul left at her body state. Oh, my God. And the crowd just. Yeah, it's just like, man. And then he got off stage and Gary looked at me as are you ready? And I'm like, no, man, you fucking asshole. I'm not ready, Gary. I didn't say that was in my head. Right. And, you know, and I literally drove six hours to literally bomb for like 10 minutes after George. But that's what that story. That's what that was, man. That's that's what learning how to follow that. How about that? How about that? That's good. That's what following that means. And yeah, we're going to bomb. And that's what we do. We bomb. And then we get back up and then we crush. Yeah. That's because that's what makes us good. That's it. And and, you know, I have another story. What Cedric, you know, when I used to open for Cedric, the entertainer. Yeah. And and this is this is a good one, too. This is I don't know the name of the casino, but it's it's the famous casino down south by San Bernardino area. Right. I don't know the name of it, but I'm opening for Cedric. And this is big set. You know what I mean? He's got all the movies out. You know, he's Ralph Cramden. You know what I mean? He's in the honeymooners. He's doing everything right. And and I go up and I and I crush it. You know what I mean? And I and I close it. This is when I was close with Michael Jackson. Yeah. You know what I mean? So I already got you. Right. You don't want me to do my Michael Jackson closer, bro. It's a wrap because it's really good. Yeah. Right. And I say good night. Crowd goes crazy. I got my, you know, my son's mommy backstage. I got my son. I said might as well. Just go ahead and pass the torch. Oh, I'm the new I'm the new kid in town. Here we go. You better sign me right now. Here we go. Then they introduce by the way, I just I had so much stuff to sell. Yeah. I had like my DVDs that I made at home. I'm like, oh, I'm selling all of these tonight. No one's going to buy any set. No question. No question. No question. What said who? Yeah. Right. Yeah. And I remember walking off stage and said had his hat on and his suit. And I just everyone's going crazy for me. And he's just looking at that's what I'm talking about. Joe Coy, make me work for this fucking money. Let's go. Joe Coy hugged me. And I just remember when I hugged him, I'm like, who the fuck is this guy? Like no one's supposed to talk like that. Right. Like you're supposed to be like, who the fuck is this guy? No, he was like, don't look him again. No, he was like, let's get it. Let's go. All right. I love you. Oh, you got the fire, huh? I got the gasoline. Right. I got the gasoline because that fire about to die out. And then they introduce Cedric. He does his dance, you know, he does his thing in the beginning. And then he does first five minutes. Everyone was like, yeah. And I think there was an Asian kid that opened for him. I think it's pretty good. He was all right. Right. Like Kings of Comedy. I don't know. I think he's getting our water now. This is like Kings of Comedy. Oh, it was beyond that. He was already he's got movies. He had everything at this point. Now you've done so much, right? In your career. Yeah. Is there one thing that you still feel like you have to do? Um, I you know what? You know, there's this kid that used to open for me, Chase. Chase used to open for me and. And really funny, by the way. And you can follow. He's on my Instagram. Follow. But anyway, long story short, he said to me, he goes, and I quote him all the time, you're living the extras on your DVD right now. Like you already made your DVD. That everything you wanted in life is your DVD. This is your DVD. And now you're living the bonus features on the DVD. Yeah, the footage. And that's that's how I feel right now. Everything right now is just a bonus. Like meeting you is a bonus. You know, I mean, meeting Juan, yeah, was a bonus in and doing this is a bonus. So whatever else that I'm doing is a bonus. I did it, man. I I as a kid dreaming about winning the Apollo in the shower. And I had a boombox in my in my shower that had a microphone. Yeah. And literally, I should have died. Right. Because I used to sit in the shower and talk into it. Yeah, I used to like I had no jokes. I was just like, what's up, Apollo? Joe, you could have died. Yeah, I could have died. Don't ever do that. 100 percent. I should be dead. In fact, I am dead. You're talking to an angel. OK, that's not. But like that, like, you know, the Apollo thing and doing Def Jam, you know what I mean? And doing the Tonight Show and getting a special, an hour special. And like all that, like my movie with Spielberg, like I'm done. I'm literally like I did it all. Now everything like, you know, going on the road with my son, the things I'd never dreamt about when I was a kid, but having my son walk out on stage at the end of every show. Awesome. So I can. I love when you do that. Yeah, it's like that's that's my that's my bonus feature. I I've done it and now I want him to like whatever it is that he's going to do, I want to be able to be like, hey, I open for my son. Can you guys go? And like now I'm being my mom where my mom's like, oh, my son can dance. Have you seen him? That I want to be like, oh, my son can like, you know, I'm always like, my son made this. That's right. I'm like, I just want that now. Yeah. You know, and when we do so far, you know, that's going to be crazy to be able to do that with my son. I'll be there. Yeah. Can be nuts. What's your favorite restaurant? Favorite restaurant. Yeah. Give me one. Just give me one. It ain't got to be the favorite. Just a place you like to eat. I hate doing this because I feel like as far as like a Filipino, I feel like a cultural responsibility to shout out some Filipino restaurant. It's OK. It's OK. I will shout out Cuyolord. He does have an amazing restaurant on Melrose. So if you want some good, like classic Filipino dishes that have just a little bit of like fusion, yeah, check Cuyolord out. OK. All right. OK. So you're there, right? You're at that restaurant. You're having a great meal. Yeah. And you notice walking into the restaurant. Is a younger version of you. Yeah. He was looking for you. Yeah. You needed to understand what the future held for him. Yeah. So he sat down. He grabbed one of your appetizers, started eating. Yeah. And he was waiting for you to tell him something. What would the older Joe Coy tell the younger Joe Coy? Um, I would tell him, it's a really, really long road and it's really bumpy. Right. And even when that path seems clear, every now and then you're going to drift off into the gravel off to the left. It's going to be shaky, right? But one thing you don't do is pull over and turn that car off. Continue on that journey. And and you're eventually going to you're eventually going to get to that that place where you want to be. But remember, the journey is the best part of this entire career. The rocks, the bumps, the potholes, all that. In the words of Michael Jackson, don't stop till you get it. Until you get enough.