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We Can't Have People Suitcasing Smart Phones

35 min
Apr 10, 20268 days ago
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Summary

Armstrong & Getty discuss U.S.-China relations with expert Gordon Chang, covering Iran's ceasefire violations, China's military purges, and strategic implications for Taiwan and global shipping. The show also features lighter segments on space exploration product placement, ChatGPT errors, and declining murder rates in 2025.

Insights
  • Xi Jinping's military purges have severely degraded China's capability to launch a Taiwan invasion, reducing near-term invasion risk despite ongoing provocative activities in the South China Sea
  • Trump's approach to China involves targeting Beijing's proxy states (Venezuela, Cuba, Iran) rather than direct confrontation, which is substantively sound but rhetorically confusing to Chinese leadership
  • Iran's toll-charging on Strait of Hormuz shipping and de-dollarization efforts represent a coordinated challenge to U.S. global commons policy that requires decisive presidential action
  • China's pivot away from consumption-based growth toward export-driven expansion is economically self-defeating and destabilizing to global trade, potentially accelerating regime fragility
  • Appearing desperate for dialogue with China (as evidenced by unilateral meeting announcements) undermines U.S. leverage, as Beijing exploits any perception of weakness in American negotiating posture
Trends
Geopolitical fragmentation accelerating as China and Iran challenge U.S.-led global commons (shipping lanes, currency dominance)Military capability degradation in authoritarian regimes through internal purges creating unexpected strategic windows for adversariesDe-dollarization efforts by U.S. adversaries gaining traction through alternative payment mechanisms and trade disruptionProxy warfare and economic coercion replacing direct military confrontation as primary strategic tools for great powersInternal instability in China's political-military apparatus creating unpredictability in foreign policy decision-makingU.S. policy inconsistency between substantive actions and rhetorical messaging creating confusion in adversary threat assessmentDeclining violent crime rates in 2025 following period of progressive policing reforms and enforcement changesSpace commercialization creating unintended product placement opportunities and regulatory compliance challenges for government agencies
Companies
iHeart Media
Podcast network distributing the Armstrong & Getty show
NASA
Space agency with strict policies against commercial product endorsement by astronauts on missions
Nutella
Hazelnut spread that appeared in Artemis II space mission footage, generating viral marketing moment
Jif
Peanut butter brand that appeared in astronaut product placement during space mission photography
OpenAI
Creator of ChatGPT, which exhibited error in counting letter Rs in the word strawberry
Capital Lincoln Club
Sacramento-based organization hosting Gordon Chang at Freedom Awards dinner on May 2nd
Sutter Club
Sacramento venue for Capital Lincoln Club's inaugural Freedom Awards dinner featuring Gordon Chang
People
Gordon Chang
Guest expert discussing U.S.-China relations, military purges, and strategic implications
Jack Armstrong
Co-host of the show, conducting interviews and commentary on geopolitical topics
Joe Getty
Co-host of the show, providing commentary and analysis on current events
Katie
News producer and contributor providing research and commentary on current events
Michael Angelo
Technical director and crew member contributing to show segments and final thoughts
Jason Kelsey
Football star appearing at the Masters golf tournament in caddy outfit providing commentary
Greg Lukianoff
Guest discussing First Amendment rights and free speech issues during hour one
Tim Sandefur
Guest appearing during hour three of the program
Xi Jinping
Chinese leader whose military purges and economic policies are analyzed as destabilizing
Donald Trump
Current administration's China policy, Iran ceasefire negotiations, and strategic approach discussed
Jack Nicklaus
86-year-old golf legend hitting ceremonial first drive at 2026 Masters tournament
Kamala Harris
Discussed as potentially mounting 2028 presidential bid based on recent speech signals
Al Sharpton
Hosted event where Kamala Harris signaled 2028 presidential bid intentions
Zach Tellender
Created viral video demonstrating ChatGPT error in counting Rs in the word strawberry
Jeremy Hansen
Artemis II crew member who caught himself mentioning iPhone in press conference
Pietro Ferrero
Post-WWII Italian inventor of hazelnut-cocoa paste that became Nutella in 1964
Quotes
"They're seeing that President Trump is determined that he is willing to use force and they believe that they can back him down."
Gordon ChangEarly in interview
"Xi Jinping, by disrupting the world through various stratagems, is basically de-globalizing the world. He's making trade more difficult. And I think that ultimately Xi Jinping is working against his own economy."
Gordon ChangMid-interview
"The way we get things from China is we stop talking to them and we make them chase us for once. If we do that, then we are able to use our leverage."
Gordon ChangStrategic discussion
"Among shootings in New York city in which a person is struck by stray bullets, babies are rarely the victims."
New York TimesQuote of the week segment
"I couldn't have filmed it any better if I tried."
Chad Stubbs, Nutella North America Chief Marketing OfficerRegarding Artemis II Nutella footage
Full Transcript
This is an I Heart podcast. Guaranteed human. Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George Washington broadcast center. Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. I'm strong and getty. And now here's Armstrong and Getty. We also heard from the Chinese, a spokesperson who said that military means cannot fundamentally solve this problem and that the escalation of the conflict is not in the interest of either side. The root cause of the Strait of Humor's blockage, they said, is the illegal military operation in Iran. So this is the strongest we've heard from the Chinese as well. Before we're talking about China, we always want to know what Gordon Chang has to say. Gordon is an author and columnist. He is clear eyed. He is direct and knows what he's talking about. Also for folks who live in the area of our flagship station in the capital of Cal Unicornia, Gordon Chang is going to be appearing at the Capital Lincoln Club's inaugural Freedom Awards dinner on May the 2nd at the Sutter Club. Get info online at CapitalLincolnClub.com. We'll have a link at armstrongandgetty.com. I would love to be there. Sounds great. Gordon Chang, welcome. How are you? I'm fine. Thank you. And thank you so much. Oh, it's our pleasure. I was just touting your upcoming appearance in Sacramento. So we've covered that and we'll have a link at our website so people can get more information easily. But we played a clip on the way back that mentioned the Chinese made comments about the war and the gulf and what was going on there. Why don't we start there? What do you think, what lessons do you think the Chinese leadership are taking from what they're seeing unfold right now? They're seeing that President Trump is determined that he is willing to use force and they believe that they can back him down. I'm not sure that they're convinced of the last one, but they're certainly trying to do that. We now have that ceasefire. The Iranians violated the ceasefire from the get-go. And I guess we're going to see if President Trump imposes costs on Tehran for doing that. Now every time the wind changes direction, somebody brings up, will China take advantage of this to move on Taiwan? How concerned are you about that in the near term? And how do you see that situation in general? Yeah, I don't see the Chinese taking advantage of the situation. There clearly is one. We've been moving military assets out of East Asia, especially South Korea. But unfortunately for Xi Jinping, he has decimated the top of the Chinese military with his purges. Which means that they are not capable of starting hostilities by launching an invasion on the main island of Taiwan. Now China can blunder into a war elsewhere. They're engaged in very provocative activities in the South China Sea, for instance. So the risk of war is still high. But the risk that people think about all the time, which is the one you mentioned, is I think off the table because of Xi Jinping's purges. Do you think Xi and his leadership are looking at the Straits of Hormuz and thinking, so extracting a toll or blackmailing the world through closing shipping lanes is on the table now? Oh, certainly. Because Iran has been charging tolls. It's been blocking shipping since Tuesday, the announcement of the ceasefire. And basically Iran is helping China by de-dollarizing the world by requiring the toll be paid in China's currency, the RMMD. So Iran is trying it on. The United States has had any consistent foreign policy over the course of 250 years. It's been keeping the global commons open. China and Iran are challenging that. And we're going to see if President Trump opens the strait. President Trump has the power to do it. We can even do it without putting boots on the ground. We can do that, for instance, by closing the strait to all shipping that has paid the toll. That would force the Iranians to stop the toll. But we're going to see if President Trump will do that. Hey, let's hit rewind real quickly. It flitted out of my mind. I meant to follow up. You talked about the purge of the top generals in the Chinese Communist military. What was that all about? Help us understand that dynamic. Yeah, this is one of the most important things that have gone on in the world. And basically, Xi Jinping, through his corruption purges, has removed a lot of officers. Now some of those officers have been engaged in removing Xi Jinping's loyalist from the top of the military from all we can see, which means that there is all-out fighting among the generals and admirals. There's a lot we don't know because the regime has become even more opaque over the last three or four years. But we are seeing signs that show turmoil at the top of the People's Liberation Army. We're talking to author and commentator Gordon Chang. Gordon, I saw a piece in the journal today that bothered me. Trump quietly scraps his own playbook on China. The White House walks back the aggressive approach of the first administration, Trump won, which I praised heartily for helping the American people understand that, no, China's not our buddy. We're our adversary. Have you been watching that? And what do you make of it? More conciliatory approach? Yeah, President Trump wants this meeting that is now scheduled for May 14th. The White House announced it, but China hasn't announced it. And that's making President Trump look a little bit needy, which is not a good look for the United States because that means it makes it much harder for him to accomplish what he wants with China. Sometime, for decades, and this goes back to the Nixon era, we have chased the Chinese for dialogue, and that has inflated their already big sense of self-importance. So I think the way we get things from China is we stop talking to them and we make them chase us for once. If we do that, then we are able to use our leverage. If we appear desperate to talk to China, China will certainly use that against us. All right, they're absolutely relentless and remorseless in exploiting any weakness, correct? Correct. And they have seen even strong American presidents act weak towards China. We have done that to be generous, to be indulgent, to try to integrate the Chinese into the international system, to try to entice them. But although that sounds like it should work, it hasn't worked. So we've got to pivot and try something that might work. What might work may not work, but at least it has a chance of working. What we're doing right now, it has no chance of success. Wow, that is so interesting and troubling, and I hope they figure that out quickly. So one of the recurring themes of the show, whether today or in general, Gordon, is that it makes me insane when the media reports the day-to-day occurrences that happen around the world, but they completely miss the big picture. When you think about the big picture with U.S.-China relations, what do you think is left out of the discussion usually? What do people not understand about China? Well, the most important thing, which sometimes gets discussed, is that President Trump is going after China's proxies. China doesn't want to take on the world directly. So what President Trump has been doing is going after Venezuela, going after Cuba, now going after Iran, and China is basically losing its pause. So this is really good for us. The other big story that people don't talk about is that because China has turned its back on consumption as the basis of the Chinese economy, the only way China can grow is to export more. Xi Jinping, by disrupting the world through various stratagems, is basically de-globalizing the world. He's making trade more difficult. And I think that ultimately Xi Jinping is working against his own economy. He works against his own economy. That economy will fail. And if that fails, the political system will be in deep trouble. Interesting. So and I appreciate you talking about the actions against China's proxies. You're absolutely right. So am I just wrong in believing that the approach is more conciliatory, or is it just choosing different avenues to exert pressure? It's choosing different areas to exert pressure, and Trump is messing with the Chinese. On the one hand, when you look at the substance of his policies, they're mostly really good. But when you look at the rhetoric, it isn't good. And so the Chinese must be totally confused by Trump, because there's only one person in the world who knows what Trump is doing, and that is our president himself. Right. Right. And this is the sort of commentary, Gordon. You just don't get elsewhere, which is why it's a pleasure to talk to you. So final question. Your first book, I'm correct, was the coming collapse of China, which you wrote in 2001. Maybe you could explain very briefly the premise of the book, but how is it aging? What has changed? What are your thoughts on the longer term trajectory of China right now? In that book, I said the Communist Party would fail within 10 years. I was wrong. What happened is the 2008 downturn, which gave a lot of confidence and strength to the regime, but they overstimulated their economy. They now basically having their 2008 dead crisis while their economy is really deteriorating fast. So China is right now at a very fragile point, and President Trump can exploit that if he chooses to do so. Okay. Interesting. Interesting. Gordon Chang is upcoming appearance in Sacramento again is at the Sutter Club on May the 2nd, and we'll have all the info readily available at armstrongandgetty.com. Gordon, it's always stimulating. Thanks for the time. Let's do it again soon. Well, thank you. I really appreciate it and stay safe. Thanks. Thanks indeed. Yeah. Okay. So we'll have Clips of the Week coming up in a couple of minutes, maybe a little follow up on the China discussion and squeezing some fun stuff for goodness sakes at the end of the week. It's been, I've enjoyed everything so far, but it's certainly been on the serious side. Anyway, hope you can stay around. Cow, Clips of the Week coming up in moments. Hey, how you doing? Let's squeeze in during the last hour of the week, but first let's take a fond look back of the week that was it's Cow, Clips of the Week. Clips of the Week! Open the ex-lative straight, you crazy bastards. Open the f***ing straight, you crazy bastards. Iran and the U.S. vowing to send each other to hell. The entire country could be taken out in one night and that night might be tomorrow night. Failing to meet his terms will result in Iran being bombed back to the quote, stone ages. It was truly the 11th hour down to the wire when President Trump announced the ceasefire agreement. We'll be hanging around. We're not going anywhere. The nature of the ceasefire is already looking shaky. Right now, President Trump's main condition for this truce is not being met. The Iranians are still saying publicly they're in control of the straight and that it is closed right now. But we're obliterating it. They just don't want to stay on call. What happened? I don't think the voters fully understood and neither did we in the public sector what it was going to take to actually get this project delivered. I can't stop thinking about how grass lawns are racist and like based in white supremacy. Experts have found that strong glute muscles can increase a person's lifespan, but also drain a brother's bank account. So one of the tests that we do is trying to get them to say something like, Kim Jong-un is a fat, ugly pig. Could you say that for me? Yeah. Uh, uh, I, so I just say, I should say like that. Like every problem that we have in society right now will be fixed when women come together. They provided zero dollars to deal with the ongoing genocide of MMIW G2SLGBTQQIA plus MMIW G2SLGBTQQIA plus. The lies linking me with the disgraceful Jeffrey Epstein need to end today. It's clips of the week. So much there, including Melania. I don't think anybody thought that even if some idiot is going around saying it, but if you want to make a statement, you're delightful Slovenian accent. You should feel free to do so. Speaking of delightful speakers, I give you football star, Waw Jason Kelsey at the Masters. Caddy outfit on. We're going to be mingling around this part three contest grounds here at Augusta National Golf Club. I'm out here with the patrons. Everybody's excited for today guys. There we are. I got my Augusta National chair. I got my cooler, about 18 sandwiches in here. One of the things I'm looking forward to most today, I have never seen a whole new one in person. And there's more than enough part three's out here to make it happen. We're going to be mingling. I'm going to be giving advice. Hopefully nobody's going to be taking it. Maybe I get a stick in my hands. I don't know if I deserve that, but back to you guys. I love the Masters. I love Augusta National. I would love to play there someday. Still waiting for that invitation. If anybody emailed me that invitation, it went to spam. Call me anytime, night or day. Anyway, Jason Kelsey at the Masters should be interesting. He's obviously minding his manners, but bringing the NFL football spirit to the Masters. I mean, because famously Gary McCord, who is one of the top announcers in golf back in the day, he got banned by Augusta National for life from the broadcast because he said the grains were so fast it was like they were bikini waxed. Oh, Jesus. Which is a provocative image to say the least. But they said, no, you don't say that on the telecast. You can never work the Masters again. Wow, banned for life for that? Yeah, and they own absolutely the rights to everything that's broadcast. Wow, okay. Including the fact that they only have four minutes of commercials an hour, which is nice. I hear you. I wish you guys were the same. I'm sorry. Sorry. It's tough business. But you made this point yesterday. It's having high standards that have kept it to be such a pristine event. Yeah, yeah, they have standards and they enforce their standards. Imagine that, friends. I fancy that. Imagine that. Boy, I would like to party with Jason Kelly just, or Jason Kelsey just one time. Oh, he seems like so much fun. In my prime, yes. You're in your prime. I am not. I'm well past it. All right. I am about to speak words that are going to bring joy and delight into every heart listening, including all of us. It's almost, I want to like wrap it in a box so you can unwrap it slowly. But no, I'm not going to tease to after the break. I'm not going to do that to you. Ladies and gentlemen, Kamala Harris gives her clearest signal yet that she is mounting a 2028 presidential bid. Oh, beautiful. This is going to be fun. Oh, thank you. It's a good day. It is a good day. I am so happy right now. Oh my God, the gift that just keeps, please be true. Please be true. Oh, I know. I'm beside myself with Glee. I'm going to have to take a moment during the commercials to recompose myself. I'm so excited about this. Gavi and Kamala, maybe. Oh, please Lord. One last blessing is all I ask from you. All right, we're going to squeeze in some. Yeah, exactly. We're going to squeeze in a little more. Stay with us or grab the podcast later. Armstrong and Getty. Space is exciting. It spurs our imaginations and it forces us to ask big questions. Space, it affects us all. It connects us all. When I called her a half-wit earlier, I think I was being too generous. Kamala Harris, who in a speech today at Al Sharpton's outfit in New York, is hinting strongly that she will run for president again. Go ahead with 64, Michael. Listen, I might. I might. I'm thinking about it. I'm thinking about it. And then we'll play the next clip in which Katie, was it Katie who pointed or one of you guys pointed out that whenever Kamala goes within the context of or when you think about, you know there's some crap coming. And this clip lives up to that. Look, the American people have a right to expect that anyone who wants to run for office and be a leader, that it can't be about themselves. And what they want for themselves has got to be about the American people. And that's how I think of it. And I am thinking about it in the context of then, you know, is who and where and how can the best job be done for the American people. What? Does anybody hurt? What a crack up that was. So, okay, so we'll keep that obviously. I'm looking at the schedule I had drawn out for what to do when on the show. And I have scheduled in for this segment talking about how voter fraud absolutely exists, how it's fairly widespread, and is a damned problem for our system. And I'm not an election denier at all. I don't make claims, wild claims about various elections in the past. But the idea that it's not a problem is completely wrong. And I am going to build an ironclad case for that. But not today. It's the end of the show on a Friday. So let's screw around. Michael, give us clip number 10, would you? A solar powered smart collar for cows. Please, you can't fool me. That just exists to collect the cows data so you can send them targeted ads. Yeah. Yes. So I didn't, Michael, is there like a written version of that? I don't, I don't understand how you could use the collar to move the cattle from one area to the other. Oh, you talk about a time when Jack ought to be here. So I'm literally worked in cattle yards as a teenager. I'm looking at their website and it looks like through an app, you can draw a virtual fence and you can move that. Does this thing zap them? Oh, it probably zaps them a little bit. It probably gives them a little buzz and then allow, yeah. Okay. So you know what? It looks exactly like the dog collars for the, for barking. It's got the little box on it. So it says using GPS, it gives them an audio cue to move. So maybe when they approach the line of the fence, it sets off some noise they don't like until they go back. And maybe a pleasant noise that they associate with food or something, because you can train cows from what I understand to recognize if a bell rings, that means food is coming. It's Pavlov's dogs, which don't ever read about what he actually did. It was horrifying. But anyway, I could, I could see that having geo fencing for cows. Yeah. In other words, that makes sense. We have golf courses now where if you go on with your cart somewhere you're not supposed to in your cart, it'll slow the cart down to like one mile per hour and a big warning will flash go back to the path or whatever. So now cows apparently. Okay. Golfers and cows. You're saying, Katie? Well, no, I'm just, I'm looking at the app right now. So you can, yeah, you, you can go in and edit where the cows are allowed to go just at the click of a button. That's pretty cool. Yeah, it's amazing. You know, obviously it's got to be cost effective. But anyway, I actually today I just came up with a great idea for an invention. I've been wanting to do that since I was a kid and haven't, I guess I'm not very inventive. I think it's a great idea, but I got to look at whether it exists. So at this point, it probably does. But I've never heard of anybody having it and it's just got to be marketed right. But no, I can't tell you what it is because then you'll, you'll flash onto my idea. And the riches that I so richly deserve will not be coming my way. And that would be unacceptable. Wow. The gatekeeping is thick right here. Oh yeah. Top secret. Top secret. You got to do a retina scan, a thumbprint and drop your pants to get into our corporate headquarters. I mean, thorough security. Somebody's going to send the last $10 of their social security and a very angry letter to the station again with your gatekeeping. First it was chips. No, no. No, we cannot have people suit casing smartphones into the, the Joe Getty blank headquarters. Oh, that the smartphone thing reminds me. Oh, you know what? Where is that really amusing account of the whole Nutella? Did people pronounce it new teller Nutella? Because it's not. It's a hazel nut. I've always said Nutella. Yeah. That's that. I think that's right. Do I have that? Where is that? When it floated through the air, there it is, the Nutella scene all over the world and 253,000 miles away. The Nutella, what the marketing meeting, they were having a meeting in Parcipany, New Jersey. The brand's parent company were taking their, oh, an operations committee meeting that deals with shipping and distribution and store relations and stuff like that. They're just sitting down for the meeting when everybody's phones went crazy. And they didn't know if that video, is everybody familiar with this? There's video of the Artemis II mission the other day of the capsule and the astronauts were doing what astronauts do. And various stuff was floating around, including a jar of Nutella, which floated by and at one point the label was perfectly aligned to see on camera. It's this, if they don't use this in a commercial at some point, they're fools. Oh, they already are. They already are. In fact, let's see, they weren't even sure the video was real. So anyway, so now that I've reset in case you missed it, what happened? So they're at this meeting in New Jersey and everybody's phone goes just ape poop. And they're like, what's going on? What's going on? And they're like, is this even real? And they all ran out and they watched it and looked into their phones and stuff like that. And they weren't even sure it was real when they watched the jar hurdle across their screens at exactly the right angle for the label to spin into focus. It all looked too perfect. Said Chad Stubbs, the North America chief marketing officer, quote, I couldn't have filmed it any better if I tried. Right. So now they're making hay on social media, as you might guess. Various videos that you'll probably run into. Oh yeah, here's one. Nutella. Now enjoyed in space. And I actually, a couple of things I didn't know that I learned reading a Wall Street Journal article is that during it was either World War Two or just after World War Two. Where is that? It's a long article about a sandwich spread. There was a chef in an Italian town. There it is. A post war cocoa shortage in 1940s. Italian pastry chef named Pietro Ferrero had the genius idea to combine the scarce resources he could get with something his town had in abundance. Hazelnuts. They got hazelnut orchards all over the place. So he was like, you can't get food, you can't get cocoa, you can't make the stuff I like to make. So he thought, what can we do with hazelnuts? Hmm. Hmm. And it ended up being engineered into a spreadable paste in the 50s. It was launched as Nutella in 1964. Anyway, the other interesting part that I learned is that NASA has an extremely strict policy against promoting or endorsing commercial products. And enforces it so aggressively that not naming brands is actually kind of part of the astronauts training. They cannot get paid for naming and mention likeness unlike like a college hoops player or something like that. Okay. And in fact, when one of the Artemis two guys let slip in a press conference that he was bringing an iPhone to get some amazing photos of the Earth from space, he caught himself. He said, quote, I don't think I can actually say that as a government employee. We have small, highly powerful computing devices that will take with us that have outstanding cameras. That's a good track. A track, right? I'm even mentioning the iPhone. Okay. Yeah. Then finally this, while in the cosmos, they also found other purposes for those powerful computing devices. One picture shared by NASA showed Jeremy Hansen with an electric shaver in one hand and his iPhone in the other because he was using it as a mirror. And it wasn't even the most amazing part of the shot. Anyone who looked closely would have spotted another product in the corner, a container of Jif peanut butter. And I don't know if Jif has a vlog that said all they should. It's a child's peanut butter. But what do you mean? Nobody's talked about that. It's, it's not, no, no, get a nice organic kind that you have to stir up because the oil separates. Here comes boutique Joe. Here comes real boutique Joe. That's real peanut butter. Okay. Have you ever made your own? No, ma'am. Oh, see now that's where it's at. It's boutique now. Well, I know more homestead if anything, but it's, it's fun to make your own. But oh my gosh, Jif, Jif crunchy peanut butter is fantastic and I will not be swayed. Okay. All right, whatever. You're right. It is more homestead than boutique. Fair, fair point. Gotta have the oil mix it because it's real. Okay. Speaking of high tech computer devices that shall not be named, perhaps you've seen this video on yours. If not, we will play you the audio now. Katie assures me this is legit. It's some weird glitch of chat GPT. This guy's name is Zach Tellender and it's clip number 12 Michael. How many Rs are there in strawberry? Strawberry has two Rs in it. Are you sure? Absolutely sure. There's an R after the T and another one near the end. So two Rs it is. Okay. So I think that there are three Rs. I see what's going on. But if we count them together, there's one R after the T and one right before the Y. So that does add up to just two Rs in strawberry. Okay. So that's just feeling extra noticeable. Okay. No, it's three Rs. Right. It's three Rs because it's one after the T. And then in the word berry, you know that word berry? There's two Rs in berry. I get what you're saying now. You're counting the berry part as if it had two Rs on it's own. No, no, I'm not counting it as if it had two Rs. It has two Rs. All right. I see where the confusion is coming from. I promise I'm not trying to be stubborn here. There's a lot of confusion in the standard spelling of strawberry. There's just one R in straw and one R in berry. No, there aren't. How many Rs are there in straw? In straw, there's just one R. Okay. Now in the word berry, how many Rs are there? In berry, there's also just one R. It's right there before the Y. So combined, strawberry is just that one R in straw and one in berry. I know it can be a bit frustrating when we're just seeing it differently, but you haven't done anything wrong. No, you have done something wrong. Okay. So, Katie, I still say that's a bit and that's a woman, not the chat GPT, but I have admittedly never used the voice function of those things. Okay. So I have and I prefer the male voice because it's not as clucky as that one, but yeah, that is the female voice that chat GPT provides. Okay. And there were several posts. I just liked the way that he got animated with it because he was, if you watch this video, I'll put it up at armstronggetty.com. He's visually frustrated. He's like, uh, no, like getting angry with this thing. But there were other reports of once this video came out, other people tried it and chat GPT just swears upside down and backwards that there's two Rs in strawberry. Wow. Wow. Okay. Take a short break. We'll come back and finish strong right after this. Armstrong and Getty. The 2026 Masters is underway in a trio of legends, including 86 year old Jack Nicklaus, hit the ceremonial first drives of this 90th tournament, the six time Masters champ, hit a low hooking shot that had some spectators ducking. He laughed it off from the crowd. Cheer Don. I would consider it an honor to lose an eye at the hands of the great Jack Nicklaus. Um, I'm sorry. Uh, so, uh, before we shuffle on out of here, this is amazing. I mean, there's a lot of people who are really bold of writing in the free press. The New York times trying to downplay the random killing of a baby in her stroller last week. Here's your quote of the week. Among shootings in New York city in which a person is struck by stray bullets, babies are rarely the victims. I mean, that's amazing. As if it's like historical Fox news fear mongering since babies aren't shot that often. Good God. Good. I mean, I know. Yeah. Did you see what happened to the guys that fired off those shots? No, I don't think so. Okay. So they, they did the shooting, which was horrific. And as they were running from the scene, they just got totally slammed by a car. Oh, good resulted in one of them getting caught. The other one ran off, but it was, it was just good timing. Yeah. I certainly hope they catch the second one and his life is what it should be, what it deserves to be. Speaking of murders, however, this is amazing. Everybody, I think has heard that the murder rate is falling, but 2025 is really, really good compared to the 10 years that went before it. I mean, really, really low in terms of murders. It's, it's actually the lowest year. What do they have that actually? I'm looking at this chart, which is small. Luckily, I have the eyes of a 16 year old. It looks like the lowest murder rate since the 1960s. What happened in 2025? Anybody wanted to commit a murder, got murdered during COVID or something. Got crack down on the progressive policing. I don't know. So interesting. Oh, well, I'm anti-murder, so that's good. Yeah. Yeah. It's Final Thoughts. I'm strong, you're getting me. It's Final Thoughts. Doo doo doo doo doo. It's Final Thoughts. I'm strong, you're getting me. You're ready to get degree in and Michael, then you'll know. It's Final Thoughts. I'm strong, you're getting me. Hey, let's get a final thought from everybody on the crew to wrap things up for the day and the week. Let's begin with our technical director, Michael Angelo. Michael, what's your final thought? All right. Here's an idea. I hope nobody's thought of it already, but NASA needs to start charging for product placement on space missions so you have objects floating by in the response. Oh, they're trying to avoid that very much, Michael. I'm not sure I'm with you on that plan. It would pollute the purity of space travel. Katie Green, our esteemed newswoman, has a final thought. Katie? I just got a text from my husband and we have the fancy peanut butter at home. I had forgotten. Good man, Drew. Good man. Yeah. Yeah. If you don't have to stir it up, it's not real peanut butter. Come on. My final thought is entirely self-indulgent and self-promotional. A good show today had a lot of great guests, including Greg Lukianoff from FIRE, the Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression, during hour one of the program. If you didn't catch that, definitely worth a listen. He is such a great and eloquent crusader for the First Amendment. Really enjoy the conversation. Likewise, our chat with my clients in hour two. Tim Sandefur in hour three. So check it out. Armstrong and Getty on demand. Wherever you'd like to get podcasts, subscribe so it downloads automatically. Armstrong and Getty ramping up another grueling four-hour workday. So many people to thank. So little time. Thanks to Hanson and Katie and Michael and everybody who helped out today. Jack will be back on Monday. Go to armstrongandgetty.com. We mentioned a couple of great events, books, articles, whatever. Those links are there under hot links or usually hot links or we've got a special banner. Armstrongandgetty.com. We'll see you Monday. God bless America. Armstrong and Getty. Vowing to send each other to hell. You crazy bastards. Crazy bastards. It was truly the 11th hour of the ceasefire agreement. We'll be hanging around. We're not going anywhere. I think we can all agree on that. 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