The Nateland Podcast

1: Public Figures

121 min
Feb 4, 20262 months ago
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Summary

The Nateland Podcast launches its new show 'Public Figures' with hosts Brian Bates, Aaron Weber, and Dusty Slay discussing what defines public figures, their recent experiences during a Nashville ice storm, and creating a Mount Rushmore of contemporary public figures. The episode explores the legal and social implications of public figure status through historical court cases and personal anecdotes.

Insights
  • Public figures are legally categorized into three groups: public officials (politicians), all-purpose public figures (celebrities/athletes), and limited-purpose public figures (famous for specific incidents), each with different defamation protections
  • The internet and social media have democratized fame, allowing ordinary people to become public figures overnight without intentional pursuit, fundamentally changing what it means to be publicly scrutinized
  • Recognition from fans can dramatically shift personal opinions of public figures, suggesting parasocial relationships heavily influence perception independent of actual merit or behavior
  • Power company response failures during natural disasters create opportunities for public figures to fill communication voids, positioning comedians and entertainers as de facto civic leaders
  • The proliferation of content creators and celebrities has diluted the concept of 'public figure' status, making it harder to identify truly universal figures compared to pre-internet era
Trends
Decline in traditional media authority and rise of social media as primary news source for public figure informationPublic figures leveraging social platforms to demand accountability from institutions (government, utilities) when traditional channels failParasocial relationships driving consumer behavior and opinion formation more than traditional celebrity endorsementsShift from singular dominant public figures to fragmented micro-celebrity ecosystems across different demographics and platformsReluctant public figures and accidental fame becoming more common as viral moments create instant celebrities without consentExpectation that entertainers and comedians serve civic communication functions during crises when official channels are inadequateLegal framework for public figure defamation protections becoming increasingly complex as social media blurs lines between public and private figures
Topics
Public Figure Legal Definition and Defamation LawIce Storm Infrastructure Failure and Power Company ResponseSocial Media's Role in Creating Instant CelebritiesParasocial Relationships Between Fans and Public FiguresHistorical Court Cases (New York Times v. Sullivan, Carol Burnett v. National Enquirer)Richard Jewell Case and Media Scrutiny of Reluctant Public FiguresCelebrity Recognition in Public Settings and Fan InteractionsMount Rushmore of Contemporary Public FiguresPodcast Format and Audience EngagementCPAP Usage and Sleep Apnea TreatmentComedy Tour Updates and Venue ExperiencesNate Land Cruise Event PlanningPost Malone and Music Industry TrendsTelevision Show Quality DeclineNASA Moon and Mars Missions
Companies
Shopify
Sponsor offering e-commerce platform with AI-powered product descriptions, inventory, and shipping tools
Helix Sleep
Mattress company providing customized sleep solutions with quiz-based selection and free shipping
Square
Payment processing system enabling fast transactions for businesses from coffee shops to merchandise sales
Quince
Direct-to-consumer clothing brand offering premium materials at reduced prices by cutting out middlemen
Nashville Electric Service (NES)
Power utility company criticized for inadequate response during ice storm with only 150 linemen vs Atlanta's 5000
AT&T
Telecom company mentioned in customer service complaint about difficulty canceling home internet service
National Enquirer
Tabloid publication subject of Carol Burnett defamation case establishing public figure legal precedents
Netflix
Streaming platform where Nate Bargatze won Grammy for Best Comedy Album during episode broadcast
ESPN
Sports media network where Ryan Clark works as analyst and media personality
Fanatics
Sports merchandise and collectibles company that hosted Fanatics Fest event with major athletes
People
Nate Bargatze
Co-host of original Nateland Podcast, won Grammy for Best Comedy Album, hosting cruise event
Brian Bates
Host of Public Figures Podcast, comedian, manages group dynamics and podcast structure
Aaron Weber
Co-host of Public Figures Podcast, comedian, touring performer at various theaters
Dusty Slay
Co-host of Public Figures Podcast, comedian, experienced ice storm damage, touring performer
LeBron James
NBA player identified as one of most recognizable public figures in contemporary America
Taylor Swift
Music artist discussed as potentially more famous than Obama in current public consciousness
The Rock (Dwayne Johnson)
Actor and former wrestler identified as major contemporary public figure
Richard Jewell
Security guard wrongly identified as Olympic bomber suspect, subject of legal case on public figure status
Carol Burnett
Actress who sued National Enquirer for libel, establishing precedent for public figure defamation law
Captain Chesley Sullenberger
Pilot famous for emergency landing on Hudson River, example of limited-purpose public figure
Tom Hanks
Actor discussed regarding celebrity status and recognition, mentioned in personal anecdote
Post Malone
Musician criticized for genre-hopping and covering Ozzy Osbourne at Grammy Awards
Jelly Roll
Nashville-based musician identified as major contemporary public figure in city
Ryan Clark
ESPN sports analyst who engaged with Dusty's social media content, influencing opinion
Lachlan Patterson
Comedian co-hosting bingo event on Nate Land Cruise, discussed regarding appearance and recognition
Van Gogh
Historical artist who became famous posthumously, example of reluctant/accidental public figure
Nikola Tesla
Inventor who died penniless despite inventions shaping modern world, example of unrecognized public figure
Edgar Allan Poe
Author who struggled with poverty and recognition during lifetime, became literary giant after death
Helen Keller
Historical figure discussed as example of public figure who didn't seek fame
Sia
Singer who maintained privacy by covering face with hair despite being public figure
Quotes
"Everything in the world gets a little worse all the time, I think."
Aaron Weber
"You're asking us? We don't have any inside information. I go, well, you are the weather people."
Dusty Slay
"I'm out here as a public figure. There you go. Being like, can we get some info, guys?"
Dusty Slay
"If you're a public figure, the media needs to have a right to not worry about if they make one mistake that you're going to sue them."
Brian Bates
"The guy's famous for doing his job one day. Finally got somewhere on time, and they give him a plaque."
Dusty Slay
Full Transcript
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Let's start the whole thing. I'm a big fan of a welcome, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome, ladies and gentlemen. Cats and kittens, grab your mittens. Public figures podcast. But we'll have to figure out some catchphrases and some stuff to call it. Welcome to the first ever public figures podcast. As always, I'm Brian Bates, along with my co-host, Aaron Weber. All right. Dusty Slay. Okay. We got a new set here. You guys did great. For the record, though, if you guys are new, this is your first. I know it's your first public figures, but if it's the first time seeing you, I want you guys to know that I do all right. All right is what I do. Brian started stealing it for me, and Aaron's making fun of Brian stealing it for me. Oh, I thought you meant you're already highlighting your career. I thought you were going, I'm doing well. I do all right. I know I look like they pulled me off the street, but I'm successful. I mean, all right. That's a thing that I do. And these guys have stolen it from me. Yeah. Well, Aaron stole it from me just then. Yeah, I know. Yeah. Well, anyway, we're on here on a new set. I started doing okay because it kept getting stolen from me. Where do you go from there? I can't even think of a third. I don't know. How bad? Something like that. Well, anyway, welcome. We got this new set. It's very nice. It's nice. It's very good. It's bright. It reminds me a little bit of the Seinfeld episode where Kenny Rogers Roasters open in the red because there's some yellow reflecting off you guys. Love that chicken. Yeah. I think the plan is we're going to fill in this wall with some fun stuff. So I guess the door is open. If you want to, I mean, give us some stuff. Fan art. Fan art. Especially if, like. It doesn't have to be art. But this is what we're going to do. If you send it in. I don't know, like a toy or something? You send it in, we'll show it, and then publicly ridicule it, and then hang it on the wall. Because that's what it's like being a public figure. You've got to be open to criticism. Well, we can't promise everyone's going to get hung on the wall. We could ridicule all of them. Yeah, yeah. But we're not going to put them on the wall. We need to get these. Come on, Aaron, that's so 2025. We've got to get that off the wall. Yeah. Yeah, my working man's not even on Netflix anymore. Don't do that to it. He took it off. It'll be somewhere. Well, then we'll put it back. But he got pretty aggressive with it. He's been looking for an excuse. Yeah, yeah. Well, I'll just put it here just for now. Right over Brian's finger. Just for now. I tell you, a lot more visual gags than the old podcast. You really got to watch this. If you're listening, you have no idea what's going on. There's all kinds of hilarity happening here in living color. But excited to get things going, Brian. Yeah, so we missed last week. We were going to get started last week, but weather kind of dictates things. Well, we had a storm, and you'll be able to tell us. Dusty and I weren't here in 1994, but everyone's saying that this reminds them of the great ice storm of 1994 in Nashville. Do you remember that? I do remember it. I was living in Murfreesboro. Just graduated college. I was about to graduate college. I was three. I was 12. I graduated. Well, we don't have to get specifics there. It has nothing to do with the storm. But I was in college, about to graduate, and it didn't affect me greatly. My power did not go out. I lived in an apartment. And I remember obviously hearing about it, but it did not greatly affect my life then. So you're being, in a way, you're being paid back now for what you didn't suffer during that storm. I guess. Karma catches up with you, man. I guess so. But this time – You deserve what's happening to you, Brian. That's what we're saying. Well, it doesn't affect you guys this time, so I guess some karma is coming your way. That's right. Yeah. So last – well, last Saturday, I guess two Saturdays ago now, we had snow on Saturday. You guys were both out of town. Mm-hmm. You were in San Diego. Right. I was in Pittsburgh on my way to Cleveland, Ohio. Yeah. And it snowed, and, you know, it was a little fun. We got out and played in the snow, whatever. Went to bed. Sunday morning about 6 a.m., my wife woke me up. She said our power's been out about an hour, and there are trees falling left and right. Well, hold up. I got a question about that. How did you not know immediately that the power was out? When I'm asleep? Yeah, when you got a CPAP plugged in. Oh, I don't. Are you running it off a battery or something? I'll tell you what. Power goes out of my house. I'm the first to know because I'll stop breathing. You guys sleep all night with that thing? No, I take it in shifts. Yeah, that's the whole point of it. What are you talking about? I'm going to be honest. I don't wake up at 3 a.m., let me get a couple hits, and then go back to sleep. The idea is you sleep with it on. Oh, man. Yeah. All right, we'll get off a side tangent here. I don't wear my CPAP on the road. I don't take it with me. I really see no difference. Oh, you were gone. No, no, no. I'm just telling you. Okay. Okay. So you weren't using the CPAP? I may have been. The only reason I wear it when I'm at home is because it does keep me from snoring. Right. The snoring keeps her awake, so she wants me to wear it. Sometimes I'll pull it off during the night, not realizing it, and she'll tap me, like, put it back on. Yeah. But I don't know if I'd already taken it off or what. Okay. What? That's just bizarre to me. I mean, I'm sorry you guys have to go through that. Oh, I love it. It's great. I get a good sleep. You don't see any difference. I feel no difference. Does it go in your nose? Mine doesn't. It depends on the model that you have. I have an N20 mask. It just covers. Mine just covers the nose. He's got the full Stormtrooper. No. I thought you had the full cover of the mouth and nose. No, mine's just the nose. Just the nose. All right. How about that? Yep. Anyway. So N20 is what you have, and then when it gets up to an N95, you can't breathe at all. That's right. I tried the nose pillows that's what you're talking about and that hurt that was very uncomfortable anyway she woke me up she's like probably spent about an hour trees are falling everywhere and I think maybe we should go to a hotel I thought she was overreacting at first and then I start hearing while we're lying in bed trees falling I've never been to war zone but it sounded like some were far off some were close and every few minutes you're hearing a tree fall. And in the darkness, it's a little spooky, right? Yeah, because at that time the sun hadn't even come up yet. So it's just you don't even know what's going on out there. So then we get up, she books a hotel, and we started assessing what's going on out there. A tree had partially fallen on her car, and a tree, while we were up, fell in our house. While you were up what? While we were up, a tree fell in our house. Oh, okay. and uh i was talking about the storm well i just didn't i don't know he was like his dates i feel like you uh you pay attention the way you think we use a cfap just every few minutes it felt like that i just didn't understand the word i may have said it wrong yeah yeah i said it weird yeah um this is it in audio form too so i just want to make sure i word yeah i appreciate that um so it took us a few hours to get our stuff together and me to get her car out from underneath this falling tree and what'd you do to get it out from under there uh sure muscle man yeah love that um it was you know it was only partially on it so i could get enough branches off to get her car out yeah that felt good though no no matter what it did feel good yeah i feel like i did one thing you were able to get your wife's car out i mean that feels good even last night i opened a you know a jar of marinara for my wife and always I can barely do that. And that's like three jars. Yeah, exactly. Driving is like the only thing I feel like I contribute. My wife doesn't like to drive, especially in bad weather, but I don't mind it. So that's the one thing I can contribute. Yeah, because we're real road dogs out here. You do more than that. I'm not going to let you just say that. The one thing I do is drive. I do a lot of nice things, but as far as a man that she, you know. Manly stuff. Yeah, manly stuff. I ain't going to be fixing. But we're road dogs out here. I mean, you're a real road warrior. Yeah. So we finally get stuff packed up. You don't do an easier to drive tour if you can't work the road. That's right. I drove this weekend. I like driving. Yeah. These my shows were easier to drive to. Well, we'll get to those. Yeah, we'll get to those. I'm still on day one. Yeah. And we finally start leaving. We load up our three year old daughter and our little dog. And we're headed to a hotel, and there's a tree down in the road. Can't go that way. We turn around. You got out and moved it. No, I didn't do that. Turned around, went back. Fire department stops us. Power line's down. Can't go this way. So now we're trapped in our neighborhood. Wow. So we have to go back to our house, go back in, wait a while. They eventually get the tree cut up. We get out of there. I just love this whole exit, this whole load everybody up, get in the car. And then you drive two ways and they go, just go home. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We get to a hotel. And while I'm in line to check in, power goes out. At the hotel? Yeah. And they don't even act like there's anything in their name and reservation. And I'm like, well, is the power going to come back on? And they're like, well, to be honest, it just came on an hour ago. And I guess it's back off. And I said, see, I don't have a generator. And they're like, no. So I go back out the car. I'm like, but they don't have power. So what's the point? And she had booked two different hotels. So we went to the other hotel and stayed there for two days. And I'll skip ahead. The story is going to take the whole episode. But eventually the Bargatzis, Nate and Laura, invited us to come stay at their house. All right. All right. Very nice of them. We checked out of the hotel, and man, staying in a hotel with a young child and a dog, it's not ideal. So then we went to the Bargatzis, and we've been there ever since, and we're still there. How long is that? Well, the storm happened over a week ago, and we've been there since, was it two, seven? About six days? I guess, and they're now estimating. That it'll be the eighth before everybody's powered by. Now it's the ninth for us. The power company has really collapsed. The power company, everything is really collapsed. And while this is all going on and we're dodging trees and everything, I tell my wife, check to see what's going on in line. She's like, well, Dusty's in a fight with Nashville severe weather because his power's been off for 30 minutes. Well, I reached out because I had to fly to Atlanta. I sent my family to Alabama because I didn't know what was going to happen. So I flew from Cleveland, Ohio to Alabama, and I can't sleep because I'm like, what's going on with this power? Is the power back on? And I asked Nashville Severe Weather about it, and they go, you're asking us? And they go, we don't have any inside information. I go, well, you are the weather people. I would think you would have a bit better resources than I do. I'll play devil's advocate, though. They don't work for the power company. No. They're meteorologists. I used to work at the news station, and people would call, when's my power coming back on? I'd say 415. I would just go away. Well, that's not what I asked, though. I didn't ask, when's the power coming back on? I go, do you have any updates on what's going on with power in Nashville? And I thought that's a fair question because they should have better resources than me. But they said, we don't have any inside information. And I said, oh, okay, so you know what I know then. Well, I'm the weather wrap now. Now, if we know the same things, just come to me. Ask me. I'll tell you what they'll tell you, and I'll go, I don't know. I don't have any inside info. Nashville Severe Weather Act used to be the best. Now it's kind of trash. I still like them. I still use them. No, they're kind of trash now, though. Yeah, but they're getting worse. Is there anything in your life that's not getting worse? Well, no, my family is getting better all the time. But, yeah, I mean, everything in the world gets a little worse all the time, I think. Okay. You also tweeted Governor Lee asking what time the power is going to be right. Yeah, and then last night I tweeted at – Like it's Christmas lights. Let's all flip the switch at 1.15. Well, no, I'm – 220,000 homes coming back on. Well, that's what people think asking a question is. Yes. People think you're going, well, this is easy. Just turn it back on. What I'm asking for is updates. All you would get, you go to Twitter where all these people have accounts. They have direct access to their constituents. And they're doing nothing. They're doing nothing. And I'm like, give us some updates. Let us know what's happening. And you go to NES. They got no updates. You go to the mayor. The mayor hasn't tweeted in two years. And nobody's giving you any updates. And so I'm out here as a public figure. There you go. Being like, can we get some info, guys? You got a little heat, you can get the ball rolling. And people try to, you know, people make everything political. And I'm like, hey, I'm tweeting at both sides here. I'm like, give us some answers. I think everyone, I know I was certainly stressed. It was a stressful, frustrating time. And I'm still stressed and frustrated. But, you know, it was it was crazy. Our street looks like a tornado came through. It does. Yeah. With a layer of ice after the tornado. Well, the storm's very frustrating. Right. And it's like, obviously, well, I mean, nobody has anything to do with the storm, allegedly. But I mean, there's some debate about that. But let's make it political. There's a fierce debate going on. In some places. Yeah. But, you know, so the storm's frustrating. But as far as we all know, this is, you know, good old mother nature. This is a natural disaster. Right. But, you know, the numbers coming out about our power company is pretty. It is upsetting. Like I heard today on the way here that Atlanta, which is bigger than us, but they had 5000 people ready to help with the power. And we had like 150. Limen just ready to go. Yeah. So it's like, come on, guys. Yeah. Yeah. You know? So anyway, I feel very blessed to be staying at Nate and Laura's house. So a lot of people are not so fortunate. Yeah. They're either, you know, he's still at a hotel, which is not ideal. I saw videos today where people had dripped their faucets, and now that drip is frozen. Well, we're dripping ours, and we were there today. It's 40 degrees in our house. So it's still dripping. Okay, good. It's not frozen. Anyway, I did do a little trip to Texas. I was at the Riot Comedy Club this past weekend. All right, Conroe. And Conroe. And it was great, great shows. Folks came out, and it was a lot of fun. So I felt bad leaving my family for a short time. But at the same time, I left them about as good a situation as you could leave them. And then I'm about to leave them again. I was hoping that we would be back in our house before the cruise, but it doesn't look like it's going to happen. Well, there is nothing like leaving your family with no power to go on a cruise. Yeah, that's about as bad as you get. You're working. You're going to work. They're not going to be in the house with no power. Right, right. But if it comes back on Thursday, the day the cruise leaves, then she's probably going to be moving back into the house without me. but anyway it is what it is so what about you happy to have you here man i was in san diego while all this was going down san diego in i mean in the running for most beautiful city in america the weather's perfect i don't even know if it's i think it's right on the ocean my hotel was a block from the ocean i watched the the sun rise over the pacific while my wife and baby are huddled up dealing with the storm got stranded for an extra day but your power never went out at your house we got really lucky man yeah um pretty close to us it went out for a while but we just we i don't know we caught the right little trees are so overrated by the way i hate trees i i'm thinking about cutting you're in mount julian which is a different power company it is a different power company and they and they handled things great connor his power never went out i'm so close to you guys but i'm in davidson county my power was only out for 12 hours so i'm very unfortunate, but it still went out. But I had a great weekend out there at La Jolla at the Comedy Store. It is very cool to see your name on the Comedy Store marquee. It's not the L.A. Comedy Store, but it's the same. Yeah. It's the same. It's Comedy Store. It's in La Jolla. The shows were so great. Three of them sold out. It was just great. Wow, that's great. Just a great weekend. We did ten shows. But combined, three of them would have been sold out. Yeah, great weekend. And then this past weekend I had one show. I popped up to Chicago. I did the Chicago Theater with Kathleen Madigan. She sold out that theater, 3,500 people. Wow. That's awesome. Great show. That might have the best, the coolest looking marquee of any theater I've ever seen. Like it's just huge. And it's all in front. Pull it up here as you can see it. But it's just very cool to be able to perform there. So that was my last couple weekends. Dusty, anything good happen? Well, this past weekend I went to Charleston, West Virginia to a theater. And then I went to – You drove? I did drove, yeah. Drive? Drive. I drove. I did drove. You did drive. And why did you choose to drive? Well, it was six hours, and I couldn't find a direct flight. So I figured by the time I'd take two flights, and then I would either rent a car from Charleston to Dayton, Ohio, or flew, which there was no direct flight there. And then home from Dayton, there was no direct flight. So I rented a truck. I didn't want to drive my own car. I rented a truck. And me and Connor Drew, both shows were sold out. Awesome. Charleston, West Virginia, Dayton, Ohio Great shows, very fun And now I'm back Both theaters sold out? Yeah That's awesome Did you go to the Air and Space Museum in Dayton? No, I've been there before Made a little video about it He and Nate both did Mine was first, for the record Mine was first But it's very funny, they make some of the same jokes Oh, do they? They walk around and Neither one had seen the other one But yeah, that's debatable. But check them both out. Yeah. But yeah, it was fun. I love Dayton. I love Charleston, West Virginia there. I always sell well there. There. It's great. I love those places. I thought, you know, museum. No, I don't even know who that is. And I also, you know, a couple of weeks ago, I was in Cleveland, Ohio and Pittsburgh. Love those cities, too. And I feel like in the snow, it's very cold, very snow. And I don't know. Maybe the cities just look better in general. But, man, in the snow, it was great. They're like Cleveland. There was like no aggressive panhandling going on. It was just like nice and fun. They're all huddled up at a shelter. I guess. But I was like, oh, it's really nice. It's great. Yeah. All the downtowns were really great. And, yeah, I mean, I just thought it was fun. Loved it. I went to a really nice cigar bar downtown Pittsburgh. Very nice. It was great. Great ventilation. I went to one in Cleveland. Not good ventilation. Really bad. It's still fun. It's like, you know, they still got a few. I remember Bobby's where they do open mics here in Nashville. They would have the little, they look like tires on the ceiling. You know what I'm talking about? Oh, yeah. And that was for when you could smoke indoors. Yeah. They were supposed to do something with the smoke. I don't think they worked. When I moved here, you could still smoke in Bobby's. I could, too, and then they stopped it recently. And then what was the other one? Spring Water. Spring Water. Spring Water Supper Club and Lounge, the oldest dive bar in the state of Tennessee. That was rough with the smoke in there. It's always good to be a little on edge. Yeah. Be a little scared the whole time you're there. And they had the, in the bathroom, they had like the hand dryer, which is the towel on a thing that just comes through. Yeah, yeah, I remember that. Yeah, it was disgusting. Good thing I don't wash my hands. Had some good shows there. Shout out to Supper Club. No, it was very, yeah, I love both of those places. Okay, how are you holding up in the colder seasons? Oh, not that well. We tend to spend more time indoors. So why not stay comfortable inside with your Helix mattress? We've been doing that. We all know how important good sleep is. But this ice storm here in Nashville made my mattress the most important thing we had. I mean, aside from electricity, food and water. Is this a shot at me? No. Don't get caught on a terrible mattress because a terrible mattress can be bad. I mean, I know, you know, one time I had a mattress. I have a bit about it on YouTube where I this bad. But I don't think I included this part. My mattress was so bad. I had it for so long. My sister used to have it before me, her and her husband. And then they gave it to me and I abused it. And I ran over it one time with a car, flew out of the back of my truck as I was driving. And then I kept it for about eight years after that. And then when I finally got rid of it, I sobered up and I decided it was time to get rid of this mattress. I took it out, side of my apartment. I drug it out by myself, queen-size mattress, and I threw it in a dumpster and it folded over. Wow. Have you seen a new mattress, how firm they are? Yeah. This thing folded over. I jumped in there, crushed it down in there. Yeah. And, you know, now that I got a Helix mattress, I sleep good. No more of that. I would never dare throw a Helix mattress out. And the Helix sleep quiz is so easy. It helps you pick the perfect mattress for you. Helix is the most awarded mattress brand. I didn't even know they got awards and this has the most. Tested and reviewed by experts like Forbes and Wired. Plus, Helix delivers your mattress right to your door. There's no risk that it'll fly out of the back of the truck because they're going to bring it to me. With free shipping in the U.S., I really do love my Helix mattress. I've had it about three years now. 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I just was making sure because I know you can make people die sometimes too. Yeah, these stupid 98-year-olds keep dying on me. My prediction is you're going to go hang out with Jackie Robinson's wife, and that'll happen. So the Grammys I saw post-Balone is now doing Ozzy Osbourne. I saw that. And it's like I just can't – I cannot understand the appeal of this guy no matter what genre he's doing. I don't get it. That's the only thing I saw besides Nate winning of the Grammys, and I immediately thought of you. I do not get it I'm sure he's a nice guy but I do not get why we're letting Post Malone do it all we're letting that's such a funny way to think about it why we're letting him do this please oh please let me do an Ozzy Osbourne cover please and he goes alright we'll let you do it and that's how the conversations go what does he sing what's his original language I don't even know original language? English genre Jokey. Music genre. Rap. Rap was the first. And then he went to country. White Iverson, which is a great song. I'm sure Chase knows it. I've never found a good Post Malone song. Oh, he's got good. I mean, the rap stuff's great. White Iverson. I was in my ball and I was young. It's just good stuff. That sounds really good. It's just kind of thoughtless. Well, you know, it's not from the 90s and about a hat. but some people like it well you know apparently a lot of people like it but like i've already said everything in the country gets worse all the time and what's it called again i'm sorry but why this isn't even he's not even doing country no in the country i know but he's not even doing country music i know i care i just on the other genres but that's what i'm saying even now i i i cannot find a genre where i go oh this guy's good even hardy when i heard some heart hardy doing rock i was like oh okay this works out but post malone i don't get it any genre and then jelly roll's still yelling yeah i saw that he's yelling about every award he wins thinking jesus yeah but just yelling though yeah well he's got he's seen hardy lately he's getting more hardy oh yeah he is getting hardy. Yeah. Good for him. Yeah. So this week, we're all going on the Nate Land Cruise. We are. You excited? I kind of forgot about it until right now. I am pumped about the idea of being in warmer weather, and I think it'll be fun to do the shows, but I'm concerned about myself on a boat, I'll be honest with you. In what way? I don't do a lot of boats. I got the patch, dude. I got the patch, too. Where do you get the patch from? You got to get it prescribed, but I did a little telehealth. I zoomed with a guy and he goes alright I got you picked up Walgreens an hour later why you guys not been sharing this info with me well I just assume you had all this down you're not going to go to mainstream medicine anyway well sometimes you have to if you're doing the mainstream world of things it's not too late to do it you got some patches and you just put them behind your ear and you're good for three days are you going to preemptively do it I'm going to do it probably the night before I put it on. That's probably what I should do. I was thinking, let me just get on and see how it goes. Yeah, I don't want to get sick first and then have to fix it. I want to nip it in the bud. Okay. I can hook you up, Dusty. I got a little extra. What do you got? I mean, I have a doctor that has. My doctor prescribed it for me. Yeah. And he even told me, you can cut it. He's like, my wife wears like a quarter of one. So I could cut it in half. And for some reason, they sent me two prescriptions. Okay. So I got Blue Cross. You go in there and you go, do you want to Zoom with the doctor? It's free. Did it. He popped up, some old guy, the camera way too close to his face. Yeah. And I go, I'm on a cruise. And he goes, I got you. Wrote me the prescription Well that sounds like a good use of the doctor time It like if it that easy just give us the patches What do you think we doing with the patches Yeah I don't know why you have to get a prescription for it. I mean, you can just get Dramamine. Yeah, just keep doing the patches. I just need a couple more patches. Yeah. Well, you've got to get a prescription for a CPAP. You do have to get a prescription for that. Yeah. Or you can buy one off Marketplace. Yeah. I like a used CPAP. You don't want to use CPAP. Alex Paluto has a joke about that. Getting a used one? His doctor told him that he did the test and came back. He didn't have sleep apnea, and the doctor said, I still think you have it. But he wouldn't prescribe it, so he told him to go buy a used one off my Craigslist. You know the sad thing about it? If you're buying a used CPAP, it probably means the guy died. That's what Alex's joke is. Oh, really? Yeah. I also like the idea that the doctor runs the test. The test says he doesn't have it, and the doctor says, I still think you have it. But he just eyeballs it. But I'm not going to give you what you need to get it. Yeah. So it's like, why are we even doing the test? You don't believe the test? I think that's how the story goes, or at least the joke goes. You don't believe the test? It's like, well, why are we doing the test? Yeah. Why don't you tell me? Mm-hmm. You just tell me. He might have fudged it a little bit for humor's sake. Yeah. No one does that. No, and it's 100% honesty up there on stage. Well, I'm excited. I feel the same way as you, Dusty. I hope I don't get sick. But it'll be fun. Yeah. Looking forward to hanging out. Got a lot of good shows. Doing a little bingo. A little bingo with Brian Bates. I saw that. Now Lachlan Patterson is my co-host. All right. That'll be fun. Yeah. Could you have two more? It's like a buddy cop where two guys are – one guy's got too much hair and one guy doesn't have enough. What do you think happened there? They thought bingo might be a bit much. I think Adrian thinks Bates can't handle bingo, so he's like – I think they're the two oldest guys in the lineup, too. It's me and Steven. Lachlan's not that old, is he? I think Lachlan's in his 50s. Is he? I think so. He looks good for him. I think he's just in great shape and just like lives a much different life than we do. Wow. Everybody always talks about how good this guy looks. People do. I don't talk. Just for the record, we don't talk about him. Yeah, everybody's always like, Lachlan looks so good. And I'm like, he's all right. But usually women say that. Well, he's got better hair than you. No, there's a lot of. That's what upsets you. No, he doesn't. There's a lot of dudes that are always saying it. I think we're hanging around different dudes. I've never heard that once. The first cruise poster that came out, I was right up there near the top. Second one, nobody moves. I go to the bottom, and I'm like, who did this? And everyone's like, Adrian. I'm like, Adrian, he can – this is a clean podcast, so I can't say what I said. I know. I'll tell you all afterwards. You think you have better hair than this guy, man? Well, his hair is curly. yeah but yeah i do if i want to get a perm you know what i mean i get a perm but that's all natural yeah that's how it comes out well i don't know why people think curly's better it's just interesting i opened for lachlan right after uh last comic standing here yeah i think i might have been and there was a lot of dudes talking about how good looking really and then he had short hair yeah and you had short hair back then too right yeah okay still better looking back then. Well, he's a great guy. I think we can all agree. Yeah, he's a man. He's very attractive. He's super nice. Yeah, I'm judging the spelling bee on that. Oh, you are? Southern spelling bee. Yeah, kind of nailed that too. What's Southern spelling bee? You have to spell it a little wrong? Yeah, it's just... I mean, is that what it's implying? I think it's a special word. I think the words are just being. Oh. Like yon-to? Yeah. I thought it was going to be like. Mayonnaise. Yeah. Mayonnaise a lot of people out here. Mayonnaise. That's one of my favorite jokes. Yeah. Whicha did you? I like that one too. Whoa. You didn't bring your truck, whicha did you? That was one of my favorite Jeff Fox. The Jeff Foxworthy words. Redneck Dictionary. Yeah. Man. It was blowing us away in the trailer park back in the day. It was so true. We were like, we're saying that. Get on out of here. Get on out of here. Yeah. I used to say that to dogs all the time. How do you say it? What is it? Get on out of here. Yeah. When he said it on the thing, I go, how does he know that's what I'm saying? I know. It just proves that he really. How were you saying it in Lebanon, Tennessee, and I'm saying it in Opelika, Alabama? How's that happening? I know. We're both running out on the porch going, get on out of here. Yeah. Accustomed. Them kids kept swearing around Maumau, so accustomed now. okay that's that yeah these are good that's good i need to get that book uh there was uh what was a sensuous since she was up get me a beer that's what we'll be doing yeah we should just read that every spelling bee yeah well let me share a little nateland news with you guys love to hear it uh february 22nd 23rd 24th that's Coming up, Nate Land presents the Showcase Season 4 here at the Lab at Zaney's. Man, we've had some great comics that have been on those previous seasons. A lot of them have been on as guests on the Nate Land podcast, and we've got another great lineup. So come and join us. Tickets available for that. And Nate Land presents Brad Upton. Brad's filming his hour special March 29th at the Franklin Theater here in Middle Tennessee. Tickets are on sale for that. He was on Season 2 of the Showcase. Okay. I first learned of Brad through – a lot of people did through Drybar. I saw the clips from Drybar, but he's been doing it forever, right? He has been doing it forever. He's so funny, and Drybar kind of let a lot of people learn about him. Very funny, and he's also pretty anti-dogs in public like me. So I like that about him. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So it's important for you, Dusty Wright, to have someone that can share your complaints. Yeah, just to have normal people. I just like having other – Yeah, Will O'Donnell. Yeah, me and Will complain about a lot of stuff. Yeah, yeah. And we have a good time doing it. Yeah. We're not mad about it. But we go, why is the music so loud in here? That I get. There is a real problem in this country. Except in bathrooms where it should be. I mean, it's like you should be blasting music in the bathroom. Yeah. And then if I want to sit, I'm at an Irish pub and they're playing dance music. Yeah. Sorry. That's next Alright I'll move on Yeah You guys want to get into these comments? Let's do it As always we start with you guys comments Where do comments come from now? I guess we have to set up an email Yeah I guess we do But for now Well they'll come from Twitter, Instagram, YouTube, Apple Podcast Reviews We already have all those But as of now I guess the email is still Is this what it used to be? Mail at natelandpodcast.com. M-A-I-L. That's right. M-A-L-E if you want to talk about Lachlan some more. Aaron, do you want to read them? I mean, I can. Or Dusty? You're passing it off? Maybe we can switch halfway through if my voice gets tired. Okay. We'll do like popcorn reading. Do you expect your voice to read? Did you ever do popcorn reading back in the day? No. If I would go like episode one of public, popcorn Dusty. And then you have to pick up right where I left off. Well, he's ten years behind me. So by the time he was coming up in education, they had to do fun things to keep people interested. You probably called it Jiffy Pop reading or something. We just called it Corn because it hadn't popped yet. Corn reading. Yeah, it was still maturing. Go ahead. First comment comes from Matthew Pate. Very close to Matthew Tate in Huntsville. Yeah, it was a comment. Yeah. Hopefully they removed the comment segment from the new podcast. Sorry, Matthew. We're doubling down, actually. You're our first commenter. We're doing twice as many comments every episode. I don't know if that's true. I love that he comments to say, I hope they remove the comments. I had said, I hope Matthew Pate would not comment. Thanks for listening, Matthew. You can fast forward. Next comment comes from Pride Rock 92. You think that means they were born in 1992? I do. Or maybe they just love, they really have a lot of pride in rock that comes from 1992. That's right when Grunge was starting. Yeah. Well, yeah. I'm really proud of that. That was like peak Nirvana that time, right? Really proud of that. Goo Goo Dolls were just getting cooking. I mean, what a time. Pearl Jam, probably? Yeah, Pearl Jam. You don't like Pearl Jam? No, I'm kidding. I like Eddie Vedder a lot, actually. Did the soundtrack for Into the Wild. You should go check that out. I've seen the movie. Yeah, he did the whole soundtrack. Wrote all the songs. Pride Rock 92. I give this pod about six months. Three more months than me. Having said that, I would love an Aaron-led podcast with his friends. Stop hanging out with these old heads, professionally at least. I like that. Well, I don't know who he's talking about. Pryorock gets old heads. No, I think I know. I think he is born in 92. I take that back. Yeah, so he says, you're younger than you, right? Yeah, you're younger than you. Old heads. He's too old. You know, that's fine. We hope that he does too. that's why i put the comment in because i want to you know make it happen i give this spot about six months let's bookmark that we'll come back yep maybe trish s i get the feeling brian does not like dusty oh well well that is true this is an opportunity let's hash it out right now i've always said that let's move on the next i'll be judge joe brown right here let's figure it out I'll be Steve Wilkos. Guys, let's just move on. Can we just go to the next? Okay, all right. You think this is Trish, sir? I just thought that, too. In the comic? As soon as I saw that, I was like, I wonder if that is Trish. No. I wish Dusty and I lived closer to each other because I would love to get together. I'm always trying to get our kids together to play. You're on opposite sides of the city. We live very far away from each other. About as far as you could live while both saying you're from Nashville. Yeah. Yeah, that's pretty true. But yeah, I have a joke where I say every time my wife goes out of town, I immediately call my friends and say, we should get the kids together to play. And I based it on – I mean every time Bruce gone, I'm hitting you up. Hey, you around? We should get the kids together because to me it's easier to play a zone than a man-to-man. And I always go, I'm out of town, but Hannah would love that. I did that a few weeks ago. We had a mom's night out. Not mom's night out, but we both went to the park. Yeah. Charlie Daniels. Charlie Daniels Bar. We loved that bar. We had a great time. It's not even that close for us, for the record. Pretty close. Pretty close to me. But no, I don't just like Dusty. I love Dusty. Not in a Lachlan Patterson kind of way, but just in a friend kind of way. I mean, come on, guys. He does frustrate me at times, but you know what? I frustrate myself at times. Yeah. I mean, we all reserve the right to get frustrated. Yeah. Just a couple of old heads out there. Two old men. Yeah, I get it. Ryan Forsman. It's an interesting way to spell Ryan. Ryan. Ryan. R-Y-U-N. Ryan Forsman. The three of them made a great podcast with the dynamic of being three-fourths of the panel of Nate Podcast. This is not going to be the dynamic any longer. It's possible the change could cause them to, quote, try too hard to be funny. With Nate officially gone, will Dusty try to plant his flag as the new leader? People tend to act differently when group dynamics change. Oh, goodness. I didn't even bring a flag. It's implied. Well, that's a good point, Ryan. You might be the first person to worry that we're going to try too hard to be funny. Yeah. I don't know if you've listened. There are a lot of people going, I wish they would step it up a little bit. Yeah, it's like, Ryan, I don't know if you've listened to the podcast that I do alone. But very few funny moments, I think. I'm going to push back on the premise of this content. I understand the first episode where it was just the three of us. The idea was like, oh, he's not there. But about a year later, I don't think people are still thinking that an hour and a half into an episode. I think people get it. And we are all professional comedians, as I've said before. And there's a lot of people that do podcasts. You know, half the battle with a podcast, in my opinion, is the equipment, right? You need good microphones. You need good video. We have a whole crew that handles that. Same crew. So that's half the battle. I've seen very funny people with bad equipment, and I go, this is not a good podcast. And then all you need is good equipment. It's very funny. He's like, I'm worried about the new dynamic on the new podcast. And you go, guys, the audio quality is going to be great. I mean, it is half the battle. Dude, it's more than half for most comedians. Because, I mean, you've all heard, like, there's been people that I go, ooh, I didn't know they had a podcast. And you start listening, and you go, oh, the audio is awful on this. Did you record this on a patio with your phone? Like, yeah, it sounds terrible. Now, these are mainly conspiracy people I'm talking about. Okay. But it is funny, though. Hey, you listen to that, and you go, guys, Public Figures Podcast. Is it funny? Man, the audio. Oh, it's so good. It's crisp. It is crisp. Get them in a Webby for best audio. Christine Yeager, potentially Chuck Yeager's granddaughter. Spelled differently. Wow. You can change it. You can change it. Yeah. That'd be the worst disguise. She took an E out. Since we were called Folks with Nate Land, what should our new name be? The Civilians? The Regulars? I'm excited to see Brian, Dusty, and Aaron make the podcast their own. Your fans are here to support you. Now y'all decide what to call us. I said figurines off the top. I think let this come organically. We don't need to jump out of the gate. That's right. I've been public about this for a long time. I never liked the word folks. That happened before you were there. I know. So I had no choice in it. and I always felt like when other guys would say hey bear to me it felt like how we talked about Lachlan Patterson yeah and uh it is a bit it's odd and so and if a girl said it which they didn't but if they did it feels like we're flirting you know yeah sure so I linked into it more but partially because Nate attributed that to me yeah it was you it was a riff on something you did well You do look like a guy that says folks. Yeah. And even though I don't think I was doing it the way Nate said it, once he said it, it became our thing. Then I leaned into it. So this past weekend, I like to know when I go up there how many Nate Land fans are there. So I'll say hello, folks, and they'll yell, hey, Bear. Now I'm going to have to start doing something different. I don't know. I don't know why the people have to change what they are. They could still be folks. Yeah. Yeah. But if something, like you said, comes organically, we may eventually change. Be whatever you want. Yeah. But those are some good suggestions, Christine. You're really golded up here today. You got this gold shirt on. It makes your beard look gold. Again, I think some of it's reflection. And you got the Notre Dame hat. And you're right in front of a yellow. Yeah. You really golded it up. Did you play in that golf tournament? No. Nate's dad gave this to me. Oh, okay. He's like, I can't wear this here. Roger Maris Celebrity Golf Tournament. Yeah. But support for today's show comes from Square, the system powering like half the places I go. Have you ever tapped a pay and thought, boy, happy, that was fast. It was probably Square. 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I would go – when I sold my own merch, I would go over, I would sell the merch, Swipe the card. Yeah. Pop over. Take a pick. Boom. I was like moving like that. Square is embarrassing. And you can tap now too. Yeah. Yeah. I was using old Square technology. Still good. Yeah. Yeah. Still works. If you're starting a business or running one that deserves better tools, Square helps you sell, manage, and grow without slowing down. Right now, you can get up to $200 off Square hardware at square.com slash go slash Nate. That's S-Q-U-A-R-E dot com slash G-O slash Nate. Run your business better and smarter with Square. Get started today. Just rocking it. Is it just me or is Aaron starting to look like Brad Pitt? All right. Well, I didn't know this comment was coming up as I was giving you all these compliments. As he was telling his weekend experiences, he kind of lowered his forehead and looked up with his eyes at the same time. And I got a little flutter. All right. Jeez. I don't need to finish it. I'll finish it. I got a little flutter in my chest. Hubba hubba Aaron. Whatever you're doing, keep it up. Oh, man. You have always been adorable, but man, you're really coming into your season. I looked up. I think Brian wrote this one. No, I looked up just rocking it. Seems like a very nice guy. Yeah. And he's a big fan of Aaron's. All right. Thank you. Just rocking it. Just rocking it. That's very nice. Cheryl Karner. Dusty is my spirit animal, but I'm not sure I believe in spirit animals. I'm open to it, but I need more proof. You know what, Cheryl? You're right because. What is a spirit animal? Well, the way she framed it, which I like. She's like, I'm just using the words of the times. This guy is my spirit animal, even though I'm not sure I believe in them. That's the way I like to phrase things. I'm just trying to let you know we relate. We're tight. Okay. But do I believe in that? Probably not. What does she mean? What does a spirit animal mean? I hear people use it. We're like, we're similar. We're like. Oh, that's how people use it. But is there like a deeper, can somebody mean that literally? Probably is demonic. Literally a spirit animal? I thought it was like a Native American. Potentially. Term or something. It's probably demonic though. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Rachel Woolston. I wonder if Brian is irritated at Nate, probably, for leaving him to keep this podcast on track. Love Dusty and Aaron's shenanigans. Such fun chemistry with those two. With these three. How will Brian keep it together? I'm not happy about it. You should probably sit in between us just to keep us apart, especially now that he's looking more like Brad Pitt. I don't know what I'll do. Yeah, so many people comment, Brian's like the teacher and the student. Well, thank you, Rachel. Yes, I am irritated, but what are you going to do? Yeah. Trace and Lewis. I love that Dusty is either all in or all out with everything. You know what? That is true. I like to play a game where any time a topic or idea or whatever is brought up, I like to guess if Dusty fully supports it or is fully against it. I'm usually pretty accurate, but still get stumped from time to time. Keep up the great work and the strong opinions. Thank you, Tracen. I think it's easy, though. It's like you ask yourself, is this topic demonic? And if you decide that it is, then I'm against it. There are some inconsistencies that I think could make this game difficult. Okay. Do you have one example? Yeah. You think Harry Potter's terrible, but you watch all the superhero movies. and you like all the superhero movies. Well, it's essentially magic and whatever supernatural power is. No, I'll give you that. I'll give you that. And I don't think Harry Potter's necessarily terrible as a story. I think the difference is the superhero movies have always been around. I mean, the superheroes, they've always been around. So now we're just bringing them to the screen, right? So maybe it's just something that's been with me. Yeah, because he grew up with Harry Potter. He got grandfathered into that. Yeah. It's already part of your world. But I watch it, and then I go, well, that's not right. You know, where I watch the superhero movies, and I go, now you're trying to be like God. I don't like that. Oh, okay. So I try to watch it with that, like, who's that guy? The guy that has a little vision? When you go, he says, I'm not Jarvis. I'm not Ultron. I am. And I'm like, well, that's who God is. So don't do that, buddy. You're going to get killed in a few movies. And then you will cease to exist, and that will show that you're not God. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so. Are you going to see the new – isn't there a new He-Man coming out? I've already heard it's looking bad, but I was a big fan of He-Man as a kid. I like the Dolph Lundgren. Masters of the Universe. Masters of the Universe. So I probably will see it, even though I think it will be – nothing made now is good. But sometimes, sometimes. Everything's getting worse. Sometimes there's something that you go, oh, well, that wasn't completely terrible. You don't think TV is at its all-time best? I don't watch it. But no, I don't because this is what happens. I don't watch any of the shows. But every time I go, I watch people talk about it online, and they go, oh, season two is already terrible. Oh, season 10 has been a real dumpster fire. And it's like, so you've invested all of this, of your life into this only to be dropped off. Like I watched. It's a funny way of thinking about it. But you enjoy the like, it's not like you're putting in the time and hopes of some payoff. You're enjoying it as you go. See, I don't know. When I watch TV shows, this is what they do to me. You watch it and you go, oh, this is fun. And then you get to the end and there's a little cliffhanger and you go, oh, gosh, now I got to watch the next one. And then before you know it, you've watched the whole season, and then you get to the end, and there's a little cliffhanger at the end of the season. So there's never a real wrap-up. Yeah. I go, wrap it up. Yeah. That's what I like about Endgame of the superhero movie. Sure, took 10 years to get there. Yeah. But in the end, there was a full-on wrap-up. And then they made seven more movies. And they're bad. And kept going. Yeah, and they're bad. But I watched this AP Bio with one of the guys from Always Sunny. I love the show. Season one, I loved it. I had not seen a show in a long time, and I go, gosh, this is really funny. This is really good. Season two, complete trash immediately. It's Always Sunny? No, no. AP Bio. I don't even know what AP Bio is. I don't think no one does. Advanced Placement Biology. Okay, you're right. I guess I do know what it is. I mean, it's content-wise, it's a bad show. I mean, it's pretty filthy, but it's very funny. Yeah, I mean, I think I'm going to – next week's episode I'm going to mention Game of Thrones, but that's one that once they got caught up to where the guy had written the books, George R.R. Martin, I think his name, then the writers of the show had to finish it out. And then things just took a dive. So it did not end well, but I still didn't regret the seasons that were good. Like, what was I doing with my life? I didn't retroactively think that was a huge mistake. I'm watching The Pit right now. Great show. You watch The Pit? No, I mean, I know it's great, but. So good. I just can't get into it. I like. Any shows. I've never heard of The Pit. The Pit, it's about an ER. It's about an ER in Pittsburgh. You were just there. Yeah. You could have checked it out. But the whole season is one shift, and each episode is an hour of that shift. So you're, like, following this ER crew through one shift a whole day throughout the season. I just like competency. I know it's weird. It's the same reason I like a lot of Aaron Sorkin stuff. I don't know any of the medical terminology they're using, but it's all these very smart people just being very competent and good at stuff. People say – I've heard this, that people like medical shows because they like to live in the fantasy that people in the medical industry care about them. I like competency I can't even say the word shows too that's why any space NASA type movie everyone's usually really smart and they're all working together there's not like these differences there's some law movies like that I love a fantasy movie too that's why but I just want to say one more point I mean, I'm older than you guys, so some of the shows that I love from the 80s, they don't hold up now. I mean, and some of it's just time, but some of it's the storyline. Whereas I really feel like there's been shows for the last couple of decades that will hold up years from now. Yeah. That will still be considered good shows. I agree. I agree. More realistic. Totally. All right, go ahead. Nima Katabai. My wife and I are really excited for the cruise in a few months. I was looking at the events, and I wanted to throw an idea out there. Cigars and conspiracies with Dusty Slay. Everybody who shows up with a cigar can tell Dusty and the other attendees their favorite conspiracy theory. I think the key is to not actually tell anyone when the event is so it doesn't get to be too mainstream. Those who belong will find their way to the smoking deck at the right time. Yeah, I mean, I think that'll likely be going on, Nima. I mean, you know, I mean, that's why cigars are the best, because it's real conversation goes on with cigars. Yeah. It's a little more frantic over a cigarette. Conspiracy over a cigarette. Yeah. There's an urgency to it that could be off-putting. But cigars are relaxing and fun. And, yeah, I look forward to talking some conspiracy. I like – I want to hear something. I want to hear something because, you know, YouTube's not as fun as it used to be, so there's some that I'm missing. erica w y'all keep mentioning seasickness on the cruise but it would behoove me to mention you can also get land sickness after the you can get land sickness after the trip i am able to acclimate pretty well to the motion of the boat while sailing but afterwards it feels like the ground is swaying beneath me well thanks erica i'll be thinking about that the whole time you You know, sailing problems. I got land sickness. It's been sailing too much. Yeah. That Kevin Costner movie, was it Water World? I remember that movie takes so badly, but I remember that was a. They talked about it in the movie. Yeah, because the whole world was covered with water, and then they finally found some land, and they couldn't adjust. I thought that was a great movie, actually. Pretty stupid premise with the web feed and the gills behind his ears. He's evolving right before our eyes. But the movie itself is pretty fun. I was just watching a girl on Instagram who rode a paddle boat across the Atlantic. Oh, yeah. She's doing videos every day. Wow. Day 46 of paddling across the Atlantic. I mean, it looked terrifying. She just landed like two days ago. Wow. I took her like 60 days She went from where to where? 46 days She went from England to somewhere in the Caribbean, I think Oh, that's what it is I thought, what if she showed up like a dangerous thing? Maybe in the U.S. She immediately gets robbed She turns around, I'm going back! There was like a whole thing there when she landed People ready to see her It was pretty wild That is crazy She was just out there Was it Erica? Was it Erica W? It might have been Erica W She would know about Lance I mean, that would be I bet if you did something like that, you'd get land sickness. Or if you're sailing. Like if you just have too much money and you don't know what to do with it, so you just sail all the time. By the time you get back to land with the rest of the poor people, you're sick. Alyssa Jacobs. I work as a provider in sleep medicine in a sleep medicine clinic. And last week we had a patient come in needing a replacement CPAP. Apparently they are quite the commodity. Hot commodity. The hot commodity. and his was stolen from the x-ray machine while boarding his cruise. He subsequently received notifications to his phone all week about how good the thief was sleeping. That's hilarious. I know we'll have several CPAP users cruising and just wanted to give you all a heads up. Wow. It like hey pretty safe bet there going to be a ton of people with CPAPs on that I mean there might be a power out of it Yeah exactly Me you Stephen Bargett I just trying to think who else Yeah I always said I think you should just start smoking For what? I think that would solve a lot of his problems. Well, that's about the coughing, right? Yeah, I don't think that would help his sleep. I got a lot of problems, but I don't know that. Yeah. Yeah. There it is. Those are all the comments. All right. I say that about my wife, too. I mean, she's pregnant now, so obviously I'm not pushing for it. But once that kid comes out, let's get her smoking. Yeah. For what reasons? She just is, you know. Just so she's cooler. She's just kind of lame as is. Just be cool. Yeah, she doesn't harass me about smoking. We're chilling out on the back porch tonight. Spending more time outside. Yeah. All right. A well-built wardrobe is about pieces that work together and hold up over time. That's what Quince does best. Premium materials, thoughtful design, and everyday staples that feel easy to wear and easy to rely on, even as the weather shifts. Quince has the everyday essentials I love with quality that lasts. Organic cotton sweaters, polos for every occasion, lighter jackets that keep you warm in changing seasons. The list goes on. 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And this is not me trying to plug another brand on here. This is brandless. I don't even, there's no writing on this, but I saw it at a sporting goods store, and it's a silent basketball. You can dribble it. You don't hear a thing. You just heard it a little bit just now. It's very quiet. It's very quiet. Because these mics are so good. The mics are crisp. So you know it's a good podcast. Yeah. Because you can hear it. Yeah. But I got a little basketball here. All right. This week, we got a topic. I think, do I say it, or do we, I think we all know this week. Here's the good part, Brian. It's up to you, man. Do whatever you want. Wow. We don't got to run it up. I know, but it's more red tape anymore, brother. It's more important that these guys do their job. We're doing, you know, we're doing a couple of different things. We want the podcast to, you know, mostly remain similar to what you're used to. But we got a couple of different things. So far, I think it's mission accomplished. Yeah. But we've got a couple of different things, right? We've got a thing that we're doing here. So this week's topic is public figures. I mean, the show is called Public Figures. So we said, let's start with public figures. and each week we're going to, or at least we'll see, we're going to unbox something and try to figure out what it is related to the topic. I don't know that we'll always have three, but this week we have three. So I don't know, Dusty, take whichever one you want. I do not know what these are. I have no idea. Now, these are eBay packages. This one says Fragile. Fragile must be Italian. Remember that? Oh, yeah. A little Christmas story. If you're listening, we're all opening these boxes. Well, Adrian, I will take a knife. I think I will, too. Oh, that's a nice knife. I could rip it just like an animal. Yeah, do it. Rip it like an animal. Get that thing. All right. All right. Got a newspaper. It's fun to see an old newspaper. It is fun. You don't see a newspaper too often. I know you do. Yeah, I still get one. I got some stuff here. Looks like a bunch of pens. They got Teddy Roosevelt. Oh, some old political buttons, campaign buttons there. Yeah. I see FDR. I Like Ike, a little Dwight Eisenhower. Oh, that's very cool. It's Pete Rose Gold Star Chili Glass. I want to keep that. Yeah, that's really cool. I'd like to keep these pens. That's really cool. And I have a license plate that says California. And it says Sully. Monsters, Inc. Is that one of the characters? Monsters, Inc., Sully. And Dusty's got a bunch of, what, political buttons? Yeah. Yeah, Reagan. Yeah, just a bunch of them. Taft, a bunch of them. There's a bunch of public figures. Just a bunch of public figures. Okay, I. Fulmer for governor. This is old Alabama, right? Wow. That's cool. Fulmer for governor. He was the governor I was born. What's that blue one, Dusty? It says Reagan. Oh, wow. Some vintage buttons here. I love this Pete Rose. That's really cool. He's sliding back into the base there like I did sliding into first base. All right. I think I know what these mean because I did research on the show. Okay. But do you guys want to take a gander of how these three relate to public figures? Well, they're all public figures on them. Yeah, I mean, Sully was a, you know. But why would there be three different, you'll never get this, but. I don't even know what you're asking. Why would they have three different bodies? Politicians, sports, and actors. You're pretty close, pretty close. Public figures are broken down into three major groups. Okay. Public officials, which is what Dusty has. That's what Dusty is. Yeah. That's obviously presidents. Well, you guys all know what a politician is, a public figure. What do you got there? This is Kennedy. It says progress for all. Progress for all. Yeah. First Catholic president. That's why Dusty likes him. How about it? So we got politicians. Yeah. And then there's some more broader public figures, which is just like the all-purpose public figures, which is kind of what we think of. It's what we are. Celebrities, actors, athletes. Entertainers. Entertainers. Not politicians, but – That's what I am as an entertainer. Yeah. Not a celebrity. Okay. I'm an entertainer. All right. I'm a celebrity. I was worried. So Pete Rose – I just wanted to make it clear where I stand here. Pete Rose would be an example of – he's an athlete, but he's a public figure. Was. Yeah, was. Yeah. Was a public figure. And then there is a category called limited purpose public figure, and that is famous for a specific issue or controversy. Okay. So Sully, Captain Sully, I assume that's what that's referencing. Yeah. Obviously did one thing that made him famous. Do you know Sully? Hey, Landon Appline. Okay. I mean, he's a pilot. Shouldn't even be mentioned. Miracle on the Hudson's, what some people call it. Yeah, he's a pilot, landed a plane. Yeah, the guy's famous for doing his job one day. Finally got somewhere on time, and they give him a plaque. Yeah, well, okay. He didn't land upside down. Was that the movie Flight? Yes. Okay, so Sully didn't do that. But I didn't know if he also landed upside down. That would be bad in the water. Yeah, you're right. You're right. So what did he do? He just landed it in the water and nobody died? Yeah. Okay. They were all paralyzed. I'm not trying to be reductive of it. I'm sorry. No, it is very impressive and it's exciting. I just – Tom Hanks just does every movie like that and it gets annoying after a while. Yeah, he's Captain Phillips. Yeah, it's right. He's an astronaut. Yeah, it's a sign. He's been everywhere. I mean, I liked – I met Tom Hanks one time. Yeah, and he liked you. But I just – it's like every – he's Mr. Rogers. He's like – He's the Post Malone of the movie. Here's what I think happened. He met Dusty. Dusty did his show. Tom Hanks was not there afterwards. No, but he was there. He wasn't after to tell me. He didn't – he wasn't there afterwards to tell him how great he did. Dusty hasn't liked him since. Wow. If he would have said, great, sad, I really like your comedy. You think that – There's a possibility that that would have improved things. I don't think of it like that, but I'll be honest with you. If he were there to say, hey, great set. I appreciate you doing that Forrest Gump joke. Yeah. I would go, I did it for you, and I love Jen Sully. I realize that's all it took. I had a comic that I privately did not like very much, and then I did a thing with this comic, and afterwards they came up and were like, good set. And I was like, oh, I love that person. That's all it took. There was a comic that I didn't like like that too. And I don't even think he remembered, no, but I don't think he remembered that I opened for him years ago. Oh, okay. But I did a set in L.A. Lachlan Patterson? No, but I did a set in L.A., and he was on the show, and he came up. He goes, hey, really good stuff, man. And I just said, you know, thank you, and it changed my whole opinion. That's all it'll take. Ryan Clark, who is on ESPN. Sun plays for Notre Dame. Is that right? Mm-hmm. He's a former – Ryan's a former NFL player. Yeah. He's on ESPN. He's a lot of sports media. He gets criticized for some of the stuff he does online and stuff like that. And I really didn't know but probably had a negative opinion of him. But a few weeks ago, he posted something about music discrimination in his Uber. And I posted my joke where I had a joke like that. And he re-shared it and said, oh, this guy gets it or whatever. And now I think Ryan Clark is the greatest guy ever. I'll defend that guy for the rest of my life. That's cool. He's awesome. I like that you jumped on that like that too. Yeah. Jump in. Jump in. Oh, yeah. We're just all out here trying to work. You know what? One time during a tornado warning, I tweeted my tornado joke at Nashville Severe Weather X, and they did not retweet and made some reference to it being bad advice. and so yeah i mean it's they've been trashed since then yeah it goes both ways yeah it's a lay down in the ditch yeah i think did they tell people not to do that anymore well they they just you know it's like we're all having a good time i felt like this they were being a little jokey and i sent sent a thing in and then you know i'm not saying at that point i started to I hate them, but had they just been cool and played along, I might at this point have a little better opinion of them. That planted the seed. Yeah. I hear you. Because it's like you guys want to be jokey all the time. It's like don't be jokey. Give me the weather. Right. Do the weather. Maybe it was a sunny, pleasant day. They just needed some content. Yeah. They reposted a video. I found them once. Did they? Yeah. Yeah. So they're garbage. They don't have good taste at least, right? What was your video? Everybody was saying, make sure to salt your driveways before the ice. So I went out with my table salt. Oh, that's funny. And just took a video of me putting table salt in my driveway, and they shared that. Okay. And they didn't say that's bad advice. They recognized it as a joke. Yeah. And tweaked it. Yeah. But they get it. Yeah. That's weatherman jokes. Yeah. I looked up the definition of a public figure. It's a well-known person who has achieved prominence in society such as a politician, celebrity, or business insider – or business leader, often by choice or through widespread fame, making their lives and actions subject to greater public scrutiny and a higher legal standard in defamation cases. This feels like old definitions of public figures because what I wanted – I was going to say it's like prior to the internet and social media, to be a public figure, you really would have to do something. You'd have to create something or – yeah. But it's like now you can become essentially a public figure by some video popping off. Who do you think is the most famous person that does not want to be famous? Well, I was getting there. Okay, I'll let you. No, it's okay. We can go ahead and go there. It's just who did not seek this out? Oh. Because, you know, anytime a celebrity or a public figure takes any kind of criticism, people go, look, you signed up for this, right? You threw your hat in the ring in the arena of public opinion, right? Yeah. But a lot of people don't do that. So you got some? I got somebody. I want to hear who you think. I got somebody. I had a little time to think about it, but Steve Bartman. Yeah. Oh, is that the guy who caught the ball? It's the guy who caught the ball. The whole city of Chicago blamed him for losing the game. It became an overnight, everybody knew who he was. Hated him. Hated him, and, you know, he didn't ask for it. And then he went into hiding. People still don't know where he is. I got a different one, even a different kind of, because I feel like once they got it, they ran with it. But I don't think they intended, and there would be the Hawk Tua girl. I was going to say that as a joke. Yeah, because, well, I don't think she intended to become famous. Right. She just did a little video on the street. But then when it took off, I think she didn't have any money and thought, well, let's capitalize on this. Right. And probably other people approached her and said, we can make money off this. Yeah, let's get a meme coin going. Yeah. Pull the rug. Yeah. And then they took it too far, obviously. But I think I don't feel like she set out to be a public figure. That's a good one. I get that. Yeah, and if you don't know who that is, just don't worry about it. Haley Welch. If I knew her name, I would have said that. Sorry. I was going to say similar. Any of these Karens that got video doing something in public that, you know, like the Philly Karen we mentioned a few months ago. Oh, at the baseball game, yeah. Yeah, somebody that got caught in public doing something they may or may not should have been acting, and now everybody knows who they are. But do people know who that woman could go anywhere and people aren't going to recognize her anymore? If she's not wearing a Phillies jersey, she'd come in here. If she just changes her hair, then immediately it would be gone. Well, even just puts on a different shirt or something, and you're seeing her outside of the context of a baseball field. I feel like you're not going to. I remember, was it AJ McCarron's girlfriend that Brent Muskerger made such a big deal over? Oh, yeah. And she became well-known over now. Well, she was like a beauty pageant. She was. So she was already. But I remember her social media, they said, just skyrocketed overnight. Brent Musburger. Oh, my goodness. What a beautiful woman. We probably saw AJ's tattoos and thought, how is this possible? He had some wild tattoos. Yeah. Wild tattoos. Did you have another example? No, I couldn't think. I remember there was a. Do you remember? I don't know if y'all are. There was like a kid that was working at Target that some girl took a picture of, and it went super – you remember what I'm talking about, the Target kid? For what reason? She just thought he was handsome. Oh. This kid, Alex from Target. I kind of remember this. You remember this? Yeah. Young Lachlan Patterson. Well, this dude was just everywhere, and he literally was just a kid at work, and a picture was taken without his consent. and it goes viral and then he's like this big thing. But, again, I don't know if that's a good example because y'all don't know who he is and I feel like most people wouldn't recognize him now. There's a couple of mug shots of people that I've seen where, like, there was a guy that everybody was saying was super hot and then there's some girls that get arrested and everybody says they're super hot. You follow mug shotties on X? Mug shotties. I like that. I will check it out. I got a historical figure that certainly didn't set out to be famous. Okay. Helen Keller. I've heard Helen Keller doesn't even exist. All right. Well, I'm out there. You can't talk about anybody. Nobody really existed. All right. How about some public figures after they died? I don't know if that would really be a public figure, but. Ooh, somebody that got famous after they died. Okay. Van Gogh. Van Gogh would be the first one I think. Van Gogh was a nobody when he was alive. Was he a nobody? I don't know. One painting, supposedly. One painting. Okay. Imagine doing one show your whole life as a comedian. That you got paid for. Yeah, you got paid one time. He did a lot of paintings. And then you die, and then your album goes triple platinum. Wow. You're the most famous comic ever. Yeah, it'd be crazy. So that's the most. Kind of like Mitch Hedberg in a way, right? Like, was Mitch Hedberg, or even Bill Hicks, for that matter, Were they really that popular before they died? I think Mitch was a theater act. Okay, okay. So he was doing well. I wasn't aware of him really when he was alive. I remember somebody telling me, because I had done a little comedy, and they told it to me like I was going to know who it was. And I never listened to his album until he had died. But anyway, that's just because I'm out of touch. No, you're in touch, man. And Frank. That's right. I mean, I'm sure there's conspiracy on that. That one fits for sure. I mean, she never even – I mean, it was her diary that we're all reading. Yeah. Which we shouldn't be reading her diary. No. No, it's odd when you think about it. I recommend it. It's a good diary. A little bit more – Nikola Tesla. Oh, okay. Is that – what do you mean? That they stole all his inventions? while his invention shaped the modern world he died penniless in a New York hotel room. Yeah, a lot of people say that all of his inventions were stolen. From whom? From him. Oh, okay. By Edison? Yeah. A lot of them by him, yeah. He was well known at the time, right? I guess he just didn't have the wealth. Okay, I think he went insane at the end and that's what led to that. Because I think he died thinking he had a romantic relationship with a pigeon in his window. I think there's something like that with Tesla. I think Tesla was in love with the bird at the end. But I, yeah, I mean, I think if everybody's stealing your inventions, you'd probably go a little crazy. I'm going to keep trying to find one that both of you guys are on board with. Nikola Tesla developed a profound, emotional, and somewhat eccentric love for a specific white pigeon, stating he loved her as a man loves a woman. He claimed she brought purpose to his life. He'd fit in now. Yeah. Spent over $2,000 on her care. So he loved the pigeon. All right. Edgar Allen Poe. He struggled with poverty and recognition of his life. Became a literary giant after he died. Really? Did he die young? According to this. Yeah. I think he died, didn't you say, on a park bench in Baltimore? I think so. Now everybody claims he used to drink at their bar and write books. I feel like a lot of people do that. Yeah. He was 40. Yeah. He was only 40, and he wrote a lot. He wrote a lot of books and stuff, a lot of stories. Yeah, but he didn't have the Internet back then, so it's like, what do you do? Yeah, there's nothing to do. What do you do? You just drink yourself to death and write stories. Yeah. I used to write a lot more when the Internet didn't exist. Okay, there's a very famous – You were writing poems back then, too? Yeah, I was. I got a lot of poems. Poems? Yeah, I wrote quite a bit of poems. I'll bring one on one day. Charles Bukowski. Bukowski, yeah. He kind of ruined my type of poem, though, because I really got into Charles Bukowski, and he's not a rhyming poet guy. Yeah. And I was into the rhyming poetry. I wrote a rap song. I found the whole rap song on a whole video. Oh, really? Yeah, I'm going to put it together. Like a music video, too? Well, it was just me in a car, but I think they were just filming me singing the song. All right. Yeah, but I'm going to... But Post Malone. Well, yeah. If I put that out, the next thing I know, he'll be covered. All right. There's a famous Supreme Court case. I remember in college I majored in mass communications, broadcast journalism, and I took a media law class. I vaguely remember us talking about this New York Times versus Sullivan. And that was the first case where they ruled that if you're a public figure, in this case, is a public official. you don't have the same rights to file for defamation as an everyday citizen. And the reason is because – you zoned out over there, Dusty. I'm with you. I mean I zoned out, but I stopped here. Your eyes are so big. I'm in the room. What more do you want? If you're a public official, the media I guess needs to have a right to not worry about if they make one mistake that you're going to sue them. You've got to prove that they willfully wrote – That there was intent. Intent to distort the facts, not just mistakes made. So that was the first case. Otherwise, you could sue every news company if they got a fact wrong about senators. Right. You could sue them every day of the week. Yeah, and that might encourage the media, let's just don't cover this guy because whatever. Sounds great, actually. 1976, Carol Burnett, I think we all know Carol Burnett, she sued the National Enquirer. They read a story that said she had been drunk and boisterous in a nightclub encounter with U.S. Secretary of State Henry Kissinger She was a passionate campaigner against alcoholism, so she sued the National Enquirer for libel And because she was judged to be a public figure, she was required to prove actual malice And to the point where the defendant knew what they were publishing was false And she won She sought $10 million, but her attorney sued in California courts for $1.6 million. She got a lot less than that when it was all said and done, but she still won. And the case was widely regarded as a watershed event in tabloid journalism. It's interesting. I feel like now there's such an understanding. With social media? Could they argue, like, dude, nobody thinks what we write in our thing is real. That's true. You could go like, dude, we wrote that we found Noah's Ark on Mars last week. So, yeah, it's all. I remember seeing that on a checkout line in the Winn-Dixie. I remember seeing Noah's Ark on Mars. Is National Enquirer still a thing? And I was like, why are we not talking about that? It flooded the whole universe. Yeah. Is it still a thing? National Enquirer. Oh, yeah. Are they still in newsstands? I mean, I don't think they're in newsstands. I don't think anybody. I mean, not newsstands, but like in the checkout lines where I always see it. Yeah, I would get that, and then I wouldn't get it, but I'd see that, and then I'd get the Archie and Jughead comics. I like Mad, Mad Magazine. I like that one. Alfred E. Newman? Or is that the – that's cracked. Anyway. That's Mad? All right. Yeah. So there's all-purpose – Sorry. It's a funny headline at the National Enquirer. There's all purpose Public figure and limited purpose public figure One of the examples that went to court Was Richard Jewell Richard Jewell One very specific case The media said he was Jewell? Do you remember this? The Atlanta Olympics? No Am I saying it wrong? No, given a bridge He doesn't know who we're talking about I just was Jewell Jewel. Yeah, okay. Okay, sorry. The 96 Olympics were in Atlanta. Yeah, I remember that. The gymnastics girls, the girl had the dance. Dominique. Crush on. Yeah, I had a crush on, yeah, all of them, but specifically one. I think it was Dominique Mucciano, and she did the freestyle dance to Devil Went Down to Georgia. Oh, yeah. That's for you. Yeah, we were about the same age at the time. I mean, it was a big deal. I wanted to meet her. I had a Wheaties box with all those gymnastics girls on the cover And gosh I went to that Olympics I loved them And got home Drove home late that night And then the next morning got out and turned on the news And that bombing went off So a pipe bomb went off at the Olympics Richard Jewell I believe Found it And maybe was considered a hero Getting some people out of the way But then later he became a suspect, or at least the Atlantic Journal-Constitution identified him as possible the guy who did it. The media started saying this guy did it 88 days of intense public scrutiny before he was officially cleared as a suspect. Wow. 2005, a guy Eric Rudolph confessed and pleaded guilty to that bombing and other attacks. Wow. The guy's life was just... And he died by then? He died in In 2007, he died two years later. So at least he knew. He had two years of people knowing he at least got the other. Oh, he was a security guard, police officer, and deputy sheriff. Yeah. There's a movie about him. I haven't seen it, but Clint Eastwood did a movie. Wow. That's a shame. But in court. That's why you never try to do something good. If you take away anything from this podcast, folks, keep to yourself. Yeah. If you see a pipe bomb, let it be. If you see somebody in trouble, don't help. Turn your back to them. This world is getting worse by the day anyway. Let it go. The court determined that once Jewel voluntarily entered a public controversy by talking to the press about the bombing, he could expect scrutiny regarding his background. So they ruled in favor of the newspaper as far as coming after him. Well, that is what happens nowadays. They go, oh, well. I don't know what they said But you know You understand the sentiment I do What about this is a Reluctant public figure See ya She always covers her face So she can't be identified well Yeah Deadmau5 You ever heard of Deadmau5 The DJ Buckethead Buckethead is the same thing This is Deadmau5 right here I mean, I guess we do see his face here, but I think that took a while. He would just wear this big mouse costume. Mickey. Yeah. So who's Sia? I barely know. Chandelier. I guess we got some pictures of her face here. Okay, so pretty public. But for the longest time, if you saw Sia, her face was just completely covered by her hair. Oh, there was a country singer like that, too, for a little while. He had his whole face covered. There was? Yeah. Huh. I remember she sang on Saturday Night Live, and she was covered. And for a while, Kristen Wiig would either be in videos with her or they had some weird relationship. Friendship or something. Friendship, yeah. Some people think they're a public figure when they're really not. Not us, but others. There's something called the spotlight effect. It's a psychological term, but when people tend to believe they are being noticed more than they really are, being that one is constantly in the center of their own world. Oh, they call that main character syndrome. Main character syndrome or the Truman Show syndrome. Oh, OK. There's a lot of people that after that movie came out, a lot of people are showing up going, I think this is happening to me. Yeah, that's how I've always felt. How do you think if there were, if this were all a show called The Dusty Show, and your whole life has been broadcast 24-7 on TV, do you think it's been a good show? There's been some embarrassing parts for me, I would say. I think it's probably been the best show ever. I think it's better than a Brian Baker and Aaron Weber show. Absolutely. We would have already been canceled, but yours is going to be a big hit. Yeah, there's some embarrassing parts. And there was a good 10 years of people wondering if I was going to get it together. It was about 10 seasons ago. The show might be over soon. Do you ever think about The Office, if that was really documentary crew? Tell me that. It would be the most unbelievable thing ever, like if all that really happened. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you would be – if they come in to pitch a show, you would definitely be the one they would choose to follow around. Well, I don't know. Then or now. But they would go, he might be the guy that's going to most suspect this. There was a – You know what I mean? I shared this comment with you guys. Like he looks for cameras in his room. And a guy said there was a comment going around in the Public Figures Facebook group And it said if you were to take a road trip with one of the three of us yeah who would you choose and one guy said you because yeah Aaron Weber because he wants to cuss and he couldn't handle riding with holy rollers like me and Brian he said uh he said I'd want to drop a couple of f-bombs yeah I said what's an f-bomb yeah And I said, good. I don't, you know, I didn't say it, but I thought, good. You know, I don't want people cussing in my car. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's more of a problem with you, Aaron, the moral decline of our society. I guess so. I guess I'm, uh. Yeah, I mean. I guess I'm that guy. I mean, I got a. I'm the real bad boy. I can't have all these F-bombs. I got, I'm trying to smoke in my car. Starting a business can be overwhelming. You're juggling multiple roles. designer, marketer, logistics manager, all while bringing your vision to life. 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In any of those mornings when people go, hey, Dusty, I was like, ah, nah, I don't want to be seen because I'm, you know, my, I've killed all my endorphin receptors and I'm feeling a lot of sadness and I look terrible and I just want to slip in here and get a little fro-yo real quick and get back to my apartment. Did they know you from comedy or just being a drunk guy the night before? A little of both. But if they knew me as a drunk guy from the night before, I could just be like, ah, you saw me last night. You bound to have a customer service interaction where you felt bad about how you acted once they recognized you. Or you toned it down after you realized somebody. Oh, well, here's a – I was driving, and this Greyhound bus kept being in my way. and I was upset with him. I didn't do anything. You ran him off the road. But I remember complaining about him and then I pull into a Buc-ee's and then after I come out of the bathroom a Greyhound driver comes up. He goes, hey, are you a comedian? And we took a picture together and he had a Greyhound outfit on him. So that was him. He was the bus driver. Wow, did you tell him I've been fighting with you for miles and miles? No, no, I was embarrassed. A lot of times at the red light out here outside of Zany's I'll honk at people and then I go and then I'll go, oh, they might be coming to the show and I'll take my hat off in the car. I think you've shared stories with me, customer service, where you're about to lay into them, but then they recognize you and you're like, ah, better not. Yeah, I mean, I got into a thing today, matter of fact. The guy, he didn't recognize me, but I was driving down a street in Mount Juliet trying to get home. And then there was a guy stopping traffic and talking to people. And he had let one truck by and through. And then he was waving, appeared to be waving everyone else through. But then a guy stopped to talk to him. And I go, what are you doing? You can't. Give him a call later. Yeah, so I drove around all the other cars. and the guy screamed and then the other car almost hit me and then the guy that's stopping traffic screamed at me and i kept going and then he jumped in his car and ran and sped around me and then got next to the other truck and they both stopped and he blocked me in wow and then he got out and he goes i'm an officer he didn't say what he was an officer of but he's like i'm an officer and you know i what are you doing driving around i go well you waved everybody around yeah i didn't wave everybody around i go well you did yeah and he goes well there's a down power line down here and i only let that guy through because he lives on this street and i go well how was i supposed to know yeah you waved everybody through yeah i'm an officer he goes you need to turn around i go all right whatever but i don't know that that's even embarrassing i just did want to tell you Yeah. I had a customer service thing. Go ahead. With AT&T. Okay. I moved summer of 2024. We moved out to Mount Juliet. I had AT&T home internet at my old house. They don't have AT&T. I never had good experience with them, but they don't have AT&T out in Mount Juliet, so I got to get rid of them. So I call them, and I go, I'd like to cancel. And I don't remember what happened. I think I got annoyed with. I just hung up and go, I'll handle this later. Never did. I have inadvertently been paying AT&T $106 a month for a year and a half. Oh, no. And haven't used it once. But I'm paying them all. I finally got a note. I was like, you need to update your credit card. I go, I haven't used AT&T in forever. I'm paying them $100. So I call, and I explain the situation. and the woman goes well what's your new address and i go i don't want to give you my new address i want this to be over and we're just done and she goes well we have to know where to send if there are any future bills we have to know where to send it i got future bills you can see i haven't used your internet since june of 2024 what future bill would there be just sir i'm just using the language i'm just using it so we're kind of like that's the tone she goes sir this is just like It's just a saying. I go, there aren't going to be any bills. I'm going to get a refund. She goes, well, let me. She refunded the last two months, which is so generous of them, you know, 18 months. And then she gives me the last two back. And then she goes, well, you've got to go turn that equipment in. I go, I haven't lived at the house in a year. I don't know where it is. She goes, you've got to turn it in. So they're subtracting that from the refund. Isn't that crazy? I said to the woman, I go, I know it's my fault for not canceling this, but come on now. You see I haven't used it. Oh, she didn't recognize you. I kept waiting for her to be like, oh, Aaron Weber. No, I thought we were just venting a little bit. Oh, okay. Yeah, I did. No, thank God she didn't recognize us. Yeah. We might edit that whole story. I don't know. I thought I'd get it. No, I like it. I just kept waiting for her. No, no. You gave her her name. This is where you want to get recognized. You want the guy to go, oh, Aaron Weber. Oh, yeah, I'll wipe your credit clean here. Yeah, yeah. That's where you can use a public figure moment. A couple of months ago on this podcast when I got put in an ambulance to go to the hospital and the paramedic recognized me. So that was not my best moment. But that's good, though. The guy's going to take care of you. Yeah, yeah, you would hope so. Yeah. Unless you're his least favorite part of the podcast. Yeah, which could very well be true. It's the guy who's going, oh, he's one of the old heads. Yeah. He needs to get air in his own butt. I was on the subway, the train in Chicago, and I was waiting there to go to the White Sox game. And there was a group of guys there on the platform. And, you know, I know some of them. I bet it's a bachelor party or whatever. It's like six dudes. And then we all get on the train, and it's very packed because everybody's going to the White Sox game. So we're all standing very close. and the guy right in front of me kind of face to face goes hey man love you on the podcast cool and uh give me your wallet and he was a fan of the nateline podcast and his buddies were like what are you doing he's like this guy's not you know and he shared the story but that was 15 seconds into us getting on the train so now the rest of the ride i'm just standing face to face with the guy nose whistle yeah he's getting the full experience i'm like trying to think of stuff to talk about so yeah it's almost i don't know what it'd be equivalent to like being on a plane i guess and someone recognizes you right it sits right next to you yeah and then the rest of the flight you feel like i have to talk to this person but uh just put your headphones on yeah i've had a few incidents at the airport where i'm irritated and people come up and i you know it's all fine i'm not irritated with them but it's like you go all right we're having a good time you know don't you think if somebody's a real fan of you that's what they want to see you probably want to see you fuming about something you're natural habit yeah they want to see it's like when i go to the zoo i want to see a bear eat eat salmon out of the water yeah so yeah exactly they want to see that would be some yelling at a tsa yeah what zoo would you see a bear eating Simon, I don't know. He's saying, that's what I want to say. That's what I want to see. Instead, they're just laying there. Yeah. You see that one that some politician in Memphis tweeted out about a polar bear at the Memphis Zoo. He was like, oh, because there was snow and the polar bear was rolling around in it. And he's like, oh, nice to see someone enjoying the snow in Memphis. I tweeted it. I go, this is a sad post. Why? Because you have a polar bear down in Tennessee, and he finally gets to enjoy some snow. Yeah. That's sad. Well, was he born in the zoo in captivity, or was he plucked out of the Arctic? I don't know, but look how happy he is. Put that bear back in some snow. Don't need to be down here. Yeah, I think I might agree with you on that. That's a sad post. I'm trying to think of a funny angle to think. I'm so happy for him. Yeah, I mean, I agree with you. Yeah, in this brief moment. But he's getting fed every day. He knows where his food's coming from. So are people in jail. But if somebody in jail said, we're going to release you, it's almost guaranteed you're going to starve to death. They might be like, let me just stay here then. Hmm. I don't know. That's a tough guarantee, though. Yeah. You're telling me no polar bear dies of old age? I don't know. I'm being pro-zoo here. I'm not anti-zoo, but I'm just like, put that bear in a zoo in North Dakota. Yeah. Okay. I agree with that, too. I always think it's weird when you visit other states or even other countries and you go to their zoo because it's not like the animals are from that area. Yeah. Like they're from all over the world. So what's the difference? That's why I like the Chattanooga Aquarium. They have that freshwater river aquarium where it's like you're really seeing animals from the area. All right. So let's come up with, if you'll indulge me, our Mount Rushmore of public figures. Okay. The four people basically in the world that are the most public figures either living now or in our life. I almost think for this to even be a conversation, we have to remove all politicians from the equation. Otherwise, it's just four presidents. You know what I mean? I think it has to be living now. Okay. Living now. People still alive. All right. Living now. All right. So it's Trump, Obama. You think they would still be? I don't think Obama. In the world? Those two. Yeah. In the world. Yeah. I would definitely put. Versus who? Like, Trey Young? Like, who are we talking about? Kim Kardashian? We're just doing America. Probably is very popular, right? I mean, she has Taylor Swift. I would think of – More than Obama? I would say Taylor Swift now would be more famous than Obama. Dude, I don't know. Am I crazy? I don't know, but the first people that came to mind to me were like soccer players, like Ronaldo and Messi. But – Oh, this is the whole world. The world, yeah. Okay. All right, I'll shut up for a minute. Well, I don't know anything about the world. Let's go – Okay, all right. Let's maybe go the country. Yeah. Okay. We'll go to country. Because when you start talking about soccer players, I don't know. I know that Ronaldo guy is very famous. Okay. We'll do – I never – I don't know. We'll do Nashville then. Let me ask you this. Let's do Mount Juliet, Tennessee. All right. Let me ask you this. Go ahead. Charlie Daniels. I wish Nate was here for this question because – I don't. I'm just kidding. Because I think he could chime in a little bit better than you two bozos. All right. Who do you think is the more well-known Slay in Nashville? Dusty Slay or Ron Slay? Well, I am. Dusty Slay. I don't know who the other guy is. I know Ron Slay. Who's Ron Slay? Okay. He is a basketball legend here in Nashville. Played at Pearl Cone High School. Went to University of Tennessee. Was, I think, SEC Player of the Year. All right. Me and Ron Slay ran into each other the other day. Did you really? Yeah, we know each other. And now he's on the radio. He does sports. He does SEC. I've met Ron Slay then. Okay. All right. I'm sorry. We know each other. So I would say nationwide, Dusty. How many Netflix specials does Ron Slay have? Nashville, Ron might have you beat. I don't know. I don't know, guys. I mean, I like Ron, so I'm not going to slam Ron. He's on the radio every day here in Nashville. He's also a gigantic man. Yeah, he's 6'8". I don't want to get into a fight with him. There's also an NFL player, Darius Slay. Right. So who would nationwide, Dusty or Darius? Well, yeah, I mean, Dusty for sure on both of those. Yeah. Okay. All right. I got off. Big Play Slay. That's what they call me. That's a fun nickname. They call you Big Play Slay. Yeah. Are there any Webbers that are better known than you? The Grill. The Grill. Do you know that? Chris Webber. Oh, yeah, Chris Webber. Chris Webber. He spells it differently. He spells it with two Bs. Okay. For basketball? Is the Weber grill person alive? I don't know. I think they're like the Rothschilds. Like they're just around. Okay. I don't know who the Rothschilds are. Dusty does. You don't know the Rothschilds? Who is that? You know, the guy who invented, wait, that'd be another podcast. Okay. The guy who invented Sonic the Hedgehog, his name is Aaron Weber. Wow. Wow. Oh, I, you know, I just told you the other day to text that I, some thing I was signing up for and the guy who ran it, his name was Aaron Weber. What did he do? It was some agency here in Nashville. But anyway. Okay. So let's do one for the nation. Okay. Let's do – yeah, we can do it. Yeah, and we'll take out politicians then. All right, we'll take out politicians. So the four biggest living public figures in the United States. LeBron James I think would be on there. We'll have to just make a list and whittle it down LeBron would definitely Be in the conversation I mean Michael Jordan might still be Yeah Taylor Swift Michael Jackson He's dead though Allegedly For the purpose of this Even if they're allegedly we'll still leave him off Would you put like Madonna Is she still up there? Am I crazy? I don't think so I think she's gone I mean she's alive But I think she's gone out of the – I think she left us. I guess that would leave Paul McCartney off. He's British too. Okay. We'll leave him off. Yeah. And I think Paul McCartney for younger people, I don't think people know who that is. Okay. That's probably true. What about The Rock? Yeah. The Rock. The Rock for sure. That's a good one. The Rizzler? No. Oh, he was on the Theo Vaughn podcast. He's everywhere, man. I don't know who that is. He's not going away. He did the episode before mine, and I remember being like, ah, that dropped before mine dropped, and that's going to be so huge. Yeah, it was big. Yeah. So that shows an age difference in us because I don't know who that is. He's that kid that does this. I don't know. He's like a little guy. He seems like a sweet kid. Okay. So we've got a few candidates here. You know, I don't know anyone, I don't think. Theo Vaughn. I mean, what a big guy. Well, who has the most – He just shot down Madonna. I mean, I think for the younger generation, though, I think he's very well known. He is very well known. I'm thinking about athletes. I guess Shohei doesn't count because he's Japanese. Japanese, yeah. So even if he plays in the U.S., doesn't count. Okay. Tom Brady might still be on there? Tom Brady might. I went to Fanatics Fest last year to film something. I saw all these guys in the same room. And I got to tell you, the biggest reaction to anybody, and it wasn't even really close, was still LeBron. That's what I'm saying. LeBron's very well done. He's in another echelon of arguably greatest of all time. And he's been around forever. So he's been like multiple generations. He's just been a constant. Dave Chappelle. My whole entire life of watching sports, LeBron's in the background. He's been there the whole time. Yeah, it's like I feel like I'm like maybe the same age as him. I don't know how old he is. Yeah, I think he's 41. I feel like he was like – 41. Yeah, he was like in – talked about going into pro when I was in high school. And so my entire adult life, he's been a professional basketball player. The whole time. Think about all that you've been through in your life since high school. You've never had a time in your life that you've not known him to be playing professionally, right? Yeah, I mean, he was 12. I was 12 when he went to the NBA. I remember hearing about him on SportsCenter and stuff, like this kid who's like a freak high school player. I don't think I'd put Dave Chappelle on Mount Rushmore. I mean, anytime I see Netflix numbers, his numbers are always, like, way up there, like Top Dog. I mean, like, people are. Tom Cruise? Tom Hanks? Tom Cruise, for sure. I think Tom Hanks is enough of a character actor to where you get into the role he's playing. But we're naming just. But if he had said good set, your answer would be. Well, yeah. You might be the greatest of all. We're not trying to determine who's the best at their thing. Yeah, we're moving the goalposts here a lot. It's the foremost public figure. Well, what I'm saying, though, is like he almost gets into these roles in a way to where do you know Tom Hanks or do you know Forrest Gump? I would argue that more with Tom Cruise. Who do you think? Okay. We have a show here later tonight. Yeah. Who, by walking into the room, causes the biggest ruckus? Of us? of no no of anybody of all these people that we're talking about oh okay I didn't know where you were going like if I were on stage and I go I do have a phrase come on out the rock and then he comes out who do you think generates the craziest reaction hmm I think because that might be a good way to frame it to get at what we're going here they're all going to get a crazy reaction Taylor Swift would be crazy people would go nuts Yeah. You know, Obama. Kanye West. Kanye. I mean, people would have a reaction. Yeah. Yeah. LeBron. I think what we've determined is there are too many famous people, and it's why everything's getting worse all the time. Maybe that's just a conclusion I've come to. Okay. Yeah. Well, speak for yourself, and then we'll maybe join you. I mean, we're trying to. trick people to think we're public figures we're public figures but i think the problem is we we're like who's the biggest celebrity it's almost like you could have had this conversation much more easily in 1995 totally yes because uh there wasn't all i mean like a uh could say like drewski or something like that because there's just people from all over there's a you've seen A thousand people, that would cause a huge explosion of applause if we brought them in. Are we forgetting anybody? Andy Milonakis? There's Drew. I've seen him, but I couldn't tell you anything about him. I know nothing about him, but I've seen a lot of his. Is there anybody obvious that we're forgetting? Yeah, but they're not alive. All right, I'm glad you brought that up. I was all there if you walk in and nobody would know who he is. I'm glad you brought that up, though, because at the end of this week, I think, they're supposed to launch a trip around the moon. NASA is. First time in over 50 years we're going around the moon. Nobody knows who these astronauts are. It's barely even been talked about. Probably part of some kind of secret society. Probably. Skull of those. In the next year or two, we're supposed to go back to the moon, like land. I've got to think those astronauts are going to become pretty well known. What do you think we're going to try to do there? and then uh drill in there let's drill into the moon probably let's not let's not maybe there's oil that would be bad yeah and then in our lifetime maybe not mine but yours is supposed to go to mars yeah this is what i think let me finish my thought okay yeah um i mean he's interrupted me like 10 times i know that's what i love this well that's what everybody says is that all that's all i do why you stop yelling at us that's all i do the first person to go to mars I got to think it's going to be the most famous person in the world. Ever. Even though they won't be on this world. But when they come back, they'll be Neil Armstrong times 10. Yes, and it's going to be like very carefully selected who that person is. Yeah. And even among the crew, which is the person that's going to step first. Yeah. On the – yeah. I'll be excited to see it. You'll be around for that. I mean, Elon Musk acts like it's going to be in the next few years. Yeah, I'm saying you'll be around. I hope so. I think if we go to the moon, we should get some sand off of it because it's incredibly reflective material. It's really amazing how it reflects the sun so well that it actually shines light onto the earth. I don't think we've ever seen any reflective material quite that good, and I don't know why we're not getting that dirt and trying to do something with it. We did take all kinds of stuff back. We've got some moon dust. I think the moon rocks that we gave to other countries ended up – they ended up finding out that they were actually just petrified wood. So I don't know that we – I remember some stories about some people who accepted moon rocks as gifts like foreign leaders, and they didn't know what to do with it. I think some of them just threw them away. Threw them away. They're like, I don't know what this is. Yeah, and they knew it wasn't from the moon. Paperweight. Yeah. Yeah. So that's my theory. I think we should get some dirt bring it back who do you think is the most public figure in Nashville us excluded of course I mean Nate's getting on up there Nate for sure Taylor Swift I mean Nashville is such a country music place that it's like Jelly Roll Taylor's kind of transcended Nashville Jelly Roll Jelly Roll's in the conversation he's everywhere John Rich? He always represents the... John Rich is from a different time. Yeah. It's like, who's popping right now? Yeah. Morgan Wallen? Mm-hmm. Yeah. Jelly Roll? I don't think there's an athlete that, like, stands out. Hopefully Cam Ward becomes that guy. Certainly when the Titans first came here, Steve McNair and George. It was McNair was, like, the biggest guy in the city. Freddie O'Connell's getting pretty popular right now. Yeah. The CEO of NES. She's gotten pretty popular. Yeah, I didn't know who that was until this week. That's for sure. I saw someone tweet out people finally know who their electric company is. And I go, you mean the people you pay every month? Well, if you set up auto pay, you can forget about it. I guess you're right. I guess you're right. So did we do a Mount Rushmore? I think Taylor Swift's definitely on there. Probably LeBron. Yep. a lot of good The Rock let's do one more I mean I'm not a fan but Kim Kardashian is one of the most popular people Kim Kardashian I could see that I mean that's up there I'm trying to think of athletes that we haven't covered Patrick Mahomes I don't know he never really he's up there for sure but Yeah. All right. But not in the – anyway. Yeah. All right. Well, if you have a – I'm talking about the people out there now. I'm going to say folks, but whatever we're going to feature, call you. The listeners for now. The people. If you have a – what, a story about an encounter with a public figure? Is that what we would say? Something you want to share with us? Send us a one-minute video or less. You've got to keep it short. You've got to keep it tight or we're not going to be able to share it. but send it to the link in our show description and we'll pick one. Is that right? We're going to pick one to share a story about a public figure encounter. And comment, comment on the video on YouTube. Let us know what you thought about the first episode. And also share the podcast with one friend of yours. Just one friend. Yeah. Hey, have you heard about this podcast? Just share it with one friend. And come see me next week at polarities in Cleveland. I was about to get to that. Those are the three calls of action. Share it with a friend. Come see Aaron at Hilarities. Well, I'm going to be at the Arlington Draft House in Arlington, Virginia, February 22nd. So come see me there. Last time I was there, I pulled a dusty sleigh. Oh, that can mean a lot of things. Yeah. Well, in this case, the host. You did an hour and a half on stage? The host only did 10 minutes, and it was just a two-man show, and then he bolted. He left? Yeah, like they got somebody last minute. Okay. He ran over there. He was late. And then he just didn't want to be there. And he's like, I'm going to do 10 minutes and then jet. Wow. And he got out of there. And I wanted him to have a full hour and a half show. So I did an hour 20. That's what I'm talking about. Yeah. How does it feel? Which is by far the longest I've ever done. I mean, it felt great at the end because I did it. I pulled it off. I sure wouldn't want to do that every time. I did an hour 27 on Saturday. Yeah. But you enjoy it. Yeah. I'm not there yet. I love it. I'm more in the pocket closer than an hour. But anyway, I hope I don't do an hour 20 this time in Arlington, Virginia. But come see me at the Arlington Draft House. Awesome. February 4th. Oh, I thought you had already did yours. I'm going to plug a lot more. Cleveland, Ohio, Valentine's Day weekend, February 12th through the 14th at Hilarity's 4th Street Theater. Come out and see me. Headline in the big room all weekend. All right. Last time I did the small room. Might get you that back. And hopefully the Valentine's Day shows are going fast. Yeah. Uh, so spend the night out with your, uh, with your person and come on out to hilarities. And then I want to plug one more. I'm blanking on what it is right now. Edmonton, Alberta. Oh, I love that place. Going to the comic strip restaurant called meat. I went to me. That's good. I mean, it's crazy to say that out loud. Yeah. But I went, uh, sorry, go to Edmonton. Come see me at the comic strip. That's like the first week of March. So come on. Okay. February 14th, I'll be in Sioux City, Iowa at a casino. Valentine's Capital. Yeah. So come see me. All right. And come see us on the cruise. I guess if you're on the cruise, you will see us. Yeah, get your tickets. Get your tickets. It's sold out so hard, but come see us. It's going to be so fun, and come up and say hello. I'll be doing shows with Lachlan Patterson. That is true. That is true. So I'm doing bingo with Lachlan, and you're doing shows with him. Who else is on that show? I don't know. Paula, maybe? I think that's three great sets of hair. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. It's the long hair hour. That's true. Yeah, it's a hot show. I'm doing shows with Gary Veeder, so we have hair in common. That'll be good. Yeah. All right. So was there anything else I was supposed to plug that I forgot? All right. Well, thank you so much, everybody, for the first of many episodes of the Public Figures podcast. At least six months. Yeah. As always, we love you. 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