Summary
This episode of Little Fish features the hosts discussing fascinating trivia facts submitted by listeners, ranging from historical answer songs and football manager name coincidences to the 1985 Austrian wine poisoning scandal and the reversal of the Chicago River's flow in 1900. The episode also awards custodianship of headline facts to Club Fish patrons, including facts about Buzz Aldrin's car dealership job and the oldest known purse decorated with dog's teeth.
Insights
- Answer songs as a cultural phenomenon date back centuries to the 1500s, demonstrating that musical dialogue and response tracks are not modern inventions but a long-standing artistic tradition
- Coincidental naming patterns in organizational hierarchies (like West Bromwich Albion's managers) can create memorable cultural artifacts that gain traction through social media discovery
- Major infrastructure projects like reversing the Chicago River required massive earth-moving operations and demonstrate how cities solved public health crises through engineering innovation
- The Hollywood Walk of Fame operates as a paid sponsorship model requiring annual fees and attendance, making it inaccessible to many celebrities despite their prominence
- Historical linguistic analysis reveals how modern words like 'cuttlefish' contain redundant etymological elements, creating unintentional RAS syndrome in everyday language
Trends
Rediscovery of historical cultural phenomena through social media and digital archivesListener-driven content curation creating community engagement in podcast ecosystemsLinguistic and etymological interest in word origins and redundant naming patternsPublic infrastructure engineering as solution to public health crisesMonetization of cultural recognition through sponsorship models
Topics
Answer songs and musical dialogue traditionsFootball manager naming coincidences1985 Austrian wine poisoning scandal and antifreeze adulterationChicago River reversal engineering projectHollywood Walk of Fame sponsorship modelCuttlefish etymology and RAS syndromeHistorical linguistics and word originsBuzz Aldrin post-moon landing career challengesMedieval Cathar heresy and Catholic propagandaBritish pop charts Latin language songsBuddha iconography and identifying characteristicsWhoopee cushion invention historyKnights of the Round Table loreEquatorial physics and human height variationCook pine tree latitude indicators
Companies
Kia
Automotive sponsor promoting 2026 Kia Sportage X-Pro with class-leading cargo space for road trips
Stiff Records
Historic record label mentioned as releasing early albums including work by artists like Madness
People
Andrew Hunter Murray
Co-host of Little Fish podcast episode, introduces facts and manages discussion flow
Dan Shriver
Co-host contributing facts and commentary throughout the episode
James Harkin
Co-host providing facts and linguistic expertise on etymology and word origins
Madonna
Subject of discussion regarding 'Papa Don't Preach' music video and answer song phenomenon
Danny Aiello
Appeared as Papa in Madonna's 'Papa Don't Preach' video and released answer song 'Papa Wants the Best for You'
Buzz Aldrin
Apollo 11 lunar module pilot who worked at car dealership post-moon landing and struggled with mental health
Neil Armstrong
Apollo 11 commander mentioned in context of Buzz Aldrin's car dealership employment
Christopher Marlowe
16th century poet who wrote 'The Passionate Shepherd to His Love' with reply poem by Walter Raleigh
Walter Raleigh
16th century figure who wrote 'The Nymph's Reply to the Shepherd' as answer to Marlowe
John Lennon
Beatles member whose father released answer song 'That's My Life' to Beatles' 'In My Life'
Jimi Hendrix
Band members Noel Redding and Mitch Mitchell worked on John Lennon's father's recording session
Elagabalus
Also known as Bacianus, credited with inventing the whoopee cushion according to episode fact
Quotes
"A cuttlefish is a cuttlefish fish. That's good."
James Harkin•Mid-episode etymology discussion
"In 1900, it changed direction. Oh. Oh. This is so wild."
Andrew Hunter Murray•Chicago River reversal discussion
"You have to pay. Yeah. You have to maintain. Yeah, that's nuts."
Dan Shriver•Hollywood Walk of Fame sponsorship model discussion
"It's like we're getting a second chance to live our entire life."
Andrew Hunter Murray•Fact custodianship segment
Full Transcript
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My name is Andrew Hunter Murray. I'm here with Dan Shriver and James Harkin and we have gathered to give you your best facts. You've been sending them into podcast at qi.com and we're here to tell you all about them. And then at the end, we're going to do some more fact custodian ships for people who joined Club Fish at the friend of the podcast tier. So let's get into it. Who's got a who's got a fact? That was depressingly good, Andy. Yes. James has been telling me that I make a hallux of this intro every time and was grinning at me throughout that. Just waiting for me to do so. I was trying to put you off and it didn't work at all. No, no, no, no. I got a fact. Should I jump into it? Sure. Dan Connolly sends this. He says a few months after co-starring as Papa in the video for Madonna's Papa Don't Preach, Danny ILO, who is an actor that you will know from movies such as The Godfather part two. He's Leon the professional. He's got a very, very familiar face in those movies. So he was Papa in Papa Don't Preach. Oh, I see. Yeah. So not long after that was released, he released an answer song to it. Papa wants the best for you, his own version to reply to Madonna for what she was saying. Is he preaching throughout it? He's sort of, I've watched the video and the song sounds very much like a 1990s or a 1980s sitcom. Oh, sitcom. Yeah. Like, you know, like the intro where it's like everyone's turning their heads and smiling at camera. Picture what song's underneath that. It's got that vibe about it. But he seems really distraught. He's like relatively specific reference. It's honestly the same tone. We understand it though. Yeah. Then it was. Yeah. So he did this reply song, you know, and he did occasional songs. He released a few albums, but he wasn't a big singer. So Papa Don't Preach is Madonna saying, don't tell me what to do, dad. Yeah. Yeah. I think it had something to do with her having a baby and needing an abortion. I think, you know, coded underneath it. Okay. But largely that's what it was. Yeah. As I don't know the song, all I can think of is the Papa and Nicole adverts. That's what it's based on. Yeah. Yeah. Papa Don't Preach. I've got a citron here. That's right. I'm just going to say to forestall the emails, Renault, not Citron. Oh, I knew it was that, but I thought no one's going to write in for that. Are they? James, you don't see the inbox like I see it. Yeah. So this comes in a long line of answer songs as they're known. Can I say one? F-U-R-B. Frankie. Frankie. That's the one I know. Well, that was the bit that was massive in the nineties, I think it was. And it was basically a song. Would you remember what his name was? The artist? I can't remember now. I can't remember, but his song was F-U. Aiman. He was called. Aiman. That's right. And he just says F-U all the way through to this girl. And then she says F-U right back, but she was, she didn't know him in real life. Turns out she didn't. And that was the big thing because at the time it was sold as if this was the genuine girlfriend and it was a sort of one off. But this, this goes back so far back. So Walter Riley and Krista Marlowe traded answer pieces with each other. Christopher Marlowe? Christopher Marlowe and who was the first one? Walter Riley. Oh, Walter Riley. Oh, Riley. Yeah. Not Riley. Walter Riley is just some guy. Walter Riley is sailing to the New World and doing all of that. Oh yeah. No, I'm not talking about him. I'm talking about Walter Riley. Got it. Yeah. Yeah. Wrote some amazing pieces back in the 1500s. No, Riley, sorry. Who wrote the passionate shepherd to his love. And there was a reply which was the nymph's reply to the shepherd. So it goes all the way back then. It's not necessarily beef. It's just a reply. It's a different perspective. Lamb, innit? But yeah, Neil Siddhaka wrote a O'Carroll in reply to... O'Carrolliner by Shaggy. I don't even know a second Shaggy song. So that's amazing knowledge there. Neil Siddhaka wrote O'Carroll and Carol King wrote O'Neil in reply to that. Oh, that's good. David Bowie wrote a song. Oh, Neil had an album called Low, L-O-W. And then there was a musician called Something Low, L-O-W-E. And he released an album called Bowie Without The E. Very nice. Very nice. I wish I could remember everything about it. It was the first record released by Stiff Label. Stiff Label that had like Madness Rinn and a load of other people. Right. And the crazy one, which is that John Lennon with the Beatles put out in My Life. And his dad, who was not a singer, his dad was like a sailor. He was out on the seas and that's why John didn't grow up with him. Released a song that same year, within the same month called That's My Life. And it's been labeled as an answer song. But I think it was just jumping off the sort of coincidence of title to make it so that he goes up in the charts with the name Lennon. But what's amazing is he recorded it with a 30-piece orchestra and two of the members of that orchestra were part of Jimi Hendrix's experience band. So it was Noel Redding and Mitch Mitchell. The two people who defined Psychedelia along with Jimi Hendrix worked on a song with John Lennon's dad back in 1965. Shall we have another fact? Yeah. Okay. Here's one. This one, I seem to have become the repository for facts about sporting teams with weird, wordy coincidences. Look, a sport fact comes into the inbox. I think, oh my God, I know that. I know who's the man. Yeah. Well, Svain and Carlson wrote in and said that between 1975 and 1988, the football club West Bromwich Albion went through a run of managers whose first names went Johnny Ronnie, John Ron, Ronnie Ron, Johnny, Nobby, Ron and Ron. Nobby sticks out of it. Nobby sticks out a mile. Oh, that's so funny. So Svaining found this on Twitter from a Twitter account called TouchlineX. But yeah, he checked it out and it was Johnny Giles, Ronnie Allen, John Weil, Ron Atkinson, Ronnie Allen, Ron Wiley, Johnny Giles, Nobby Styles, Ron Saunders and Ron Atkinson. Ron Wiley, Nobby Styles. Johnny Giles. Giles then Styles. Giles and Styles. That's good. Amazing. Absolutely amazing. Was that a fact from someone called Carlson? His surname is Carlson. That's probably the best fact about football managers I've ever heard. That's brilliant. From Kalsberg. That's a reference to Kalsberg. Yeah, okay. Just for stalling the emails, handy. It's close enough. And at the same time, you sent me a fact from Ola Everback and it is about Bodder Glimped, who won against Athletico Madrid in the Champions League recently. And the goals were scored by Serloff from Madrid, Sjövold and Hjör. And all of those names have got a circle with a line through it. Okay. You know, like, a... A U with a... An U. Yeah. What a wonderful fact. What a wonderful fact, yeah. Ola said that it was maybe the greatest win for the letter U through all times. Here's a fact from Mike Abadulla. Your fact bestowing at the end of Little Fish has probably had the intended effect here and prompted me to go and listen to some old episodes. Guys, it works. Ah, yes. It works. Nice. A friend of mine has worked on maintaining some old software which uses something called the PIC operating system. This product was named after one of its developers, Mr. Dick PIC. Now, I've looked this up. I'm going to tell you, I got it wrong the first time. I did not add PIC operating system in quotes. I've searched Dick PIC. Dick PIC? Yeah. How was it? It was all right. Yeah. Nice. Lost an hour of time, but it was good. So, anyway, no, Dick PIC was a real guy who came up with the PIC operating system. That's so interesting. And I suppose he predated the Dick PIC. That's wonderful. Yeah. It's just a real thing. Predated the digital Dick PIC. Absolutely. This was the analog. Anyway, here's another one. This is from Daniel Atkinson. Says, a little fact I discovered researching the 1985 Austrian wine poisonings. Oh. So, before I get to his fact, we should qualify what that is. 1985 in Austria, there was an incident where all the wineries were found to be illegally adulterating their wines by using an antifreeze to make sure that it was sweeter, that it had that full-bodied taste like one that was like a late harvest wine. And was that illegal? Well, because it can make you blind. There you go. Better draw that out. You know, antifreeze sounds good, doesn't it? It sounds great. You know what? Your wine freezing. So, Austria, for a while, they were the third largest wine producer in the world, and this absolutely decimated them because it seemed to be illegal and they had to get rid of all of these bottles of wine. So, they ended up draining away 27 million litres of wine, so 36 million bottles. It was seven months worth of Austria's total wine exports. And they did use it for useful things. They started to pour it into cars, I presume. Well, yeah, that's the thing. They were using it for sewerage treatment plants. They were using it on the roads as an antifreeze. That's incredible. Yeah, so it's amazing. But the fact that's been sent in by Daniel Atkinson is that apparently when the news eventually got out about the poisoned wine, many countries in Europe banned not just wine from Austria, but China and Japan accidentally banned all of Australia's wine as well because of the similar names. Can't be too careful. Yeah. That's very funny. Incredible. Okay, here is one from Declan Curry. And Declan says, my fact is if you walked around the whole earth on the equator, your head would travel roughly 37 feet further than your feet. She's the curvature of the earth. What? Yeah, so that's very dangerous actually, isn't it? Ending up with your head that much further away from your feet. There are a few technical issues such as the fact that most of the equator is underwater. Sure. Yes. But yeah, in theory, that's what would happen. So what goes further, your legs and your head goes? Your head goes further away from the center of the earth. Very good fact. That's amazing. Can you think of any ways that you can tell how far away from the equator you are? Well, look around you. And if you can see a polar ice cap, you know you've got a way to go yet. Yeah, but how do you know you're not in the south pole? Well, I suppose I'd look around for any polar bears. And if I can't see any polar bears, then I'm definitely at the south pole. Yeah, or the zoo. Exactly. Are you shorter? You're shorter. Yeah, as gravity pulling on you, slight bit stronger. That'll be it. That you'll just be very slightly shorter. Yeah, be very difficult for you to measure, I should think. So what am I trying to tell here if I'm at the equator? Just how far away? How can you tell? How far away from the equator you are? I'd use Google Maps, wouldn't I? I mean, on a practical level. Okay, your phone's not working. Oh, well, I'm stuffed. I'll look around probably fairly nearby trees with moss on them. And if I find trees with moss on them, I'm happy wherever I am in the world. Okay, trees is a good one. So there is one way you could do this. This is the cook pine tree. And the cook pine tree bends a different amount, depending on how close to the equator you are. Admittedly, it doesn't grow in all places on earth, but wherever you are, if you can find a species of this tree, the amount that it's leaning will tell you your latitude. That's incredible. That's stunning. That's really interesting. So, what you can do is you can speak to one of the locals, and if their language has more vowels than consonants, they're going to live closer to the equator. Okay. It's absolutely foolproof. And you're saying that's less hard than measuring yourself. To, like, an angstrom of height, right? I mean, how much taller are you? Oh, I don't know. I was, I thought you had the answers. I have the answers to my actual answers. I'll give you another one. Yeah. This is from Jono Whitehead. I was listening to you and Dan brought up RAS syndrome, which stands for redundant acronym syndrome syndrome. Oh, yeah. Lovely. I thought you'd appreciate this. We all know what a cuttlefish is, don't we? Cuttlefish? Yeah. Yeah. Little sort of squiddy things. Sure. They're oceanic and molluscoid, aren't they? Yeah. Yeah. We all know what a cuttlefish is. Anyway, the cuttle in cuttlefish comes from the old English kudel, meaning cuttlefish. So a cuttlefish is a cuttlefish fish. That's good. That is good. Pleasing, isn't it? And I had a little extra look into what cuttlefish comes from. The kudel either comes from the middle low German kudel, meaning container, or the old Norse coddy, which means cushion or testicle, or the old English cod. Oh, and cod actually comes from the same as testicle, actually, like a cod piece. I read that cod and cod piece were not... I guess there's different. Oh, sorry, the testicle cod, not the fish cod. Yes, you're absolutely right. Kudel is where cod piece comes from, exactly. Interesting. And why do we think that it's called that? Is it like the shell that you would use as a cup or something? Kudel. Yeah, I think so. I think that is either it, or it's like a cushion or it's like a testicle, which would be the old English cod. Is a cuttlefish where you get sepia from? Like, do you have in old photographs? I don't know. I only know that you put a cuttlefish shell in the base of a parrot's cage for it to have something to chew on. That's true. Yeah. That's why they all dream to be when they're older. There's a good RAS syndrome one that I remember now, which is DC Comics. Oh, is it? It's the C Comics. Yeah, well, Detective Comics. Is that right? It's in there. And then someone picked me up for this because I got it wrong in my book, which was I wrote the HIV virus. Of course, the V is virus. I think it's fine. Yeah, I think so too. I don't mind you putting virus in there just to make sure everyone knows what you're talking about. That's what I said to the brain surgeon and he was not buying it. He got his friend, the rocket scientist, involved. Here is a fact from Andrew Joseph Perez and they say that the man who was arrested for vandalizing Donald Trump's star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame in 2016 offered to bail out the man who was arrested for vandalizing Donald Trump's star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame in 2018. Well, that's nice, isn't it? That's a club. What a family. Yeah. Yeah. Casting it on to the next person. Pay it forward. Yeah. Did they do anything especially amusing to the star or did they just end it with a hammer? Yeah, and it wasn't very interesting, I've got to say. I got a fact about the Hollywood Walk of Fame though. Yeah. So who of these people has the biggest star? Oh. Angelina Jolie, George Clooney, Leonardo DiCaprio, Ben Affleck, Stanley Kubrick, Brad Pitt, Jim Carrey or Al Pacino. Bloody hell. Who has the biggest star? Yeah. Because they're all basically the same size. They're all the same size, but there are some differences in some of the stars. Since the Apollo 11 crew have stars on there, but they're in the shape of moons. Oh, that's clever. OK. Because they went to the moon. Yeah, that's pretty good. Oh, I get it now. Yeah. So I've been to the Hollywood Walk of Fame and I've walked up and down. Same here. I was looking for you. That's very disappointed. Is one of them got a comically big star? Jolie, Clooney, DiCaprio, Affleck, Kubrick, Pitt, Carrey, Pacino. Kubrick, because Kubrick did 2001 Space Odyssey. And the moon landings, of course. Yeah. I'll say Kubrick. Dan. I'm going to say Jim Carrey and I have no reasoning for it. Well, the answer is none of them has a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. Oh, very nice. It was a trick. That is a good trick. Yeah, great prank. Isn't it? Isn't it weird? Because they're all pretty big names. Yes. If they're ever, as far as I can see, said why they don't have it, but you need to be nominated to start off with. I imagine all these people have been. But then you have to pay a sponsorship fee every year and you have to attend the unveiling. Yeah. So it's a bit of a scam. Exactly. And they've had a rough few years, all of those Brad, Pitch and Carrey. They don't really have the dosh, I don't think, to do that. But it is wild. You have to pay. Yeah. You have to maintain. Yeah, that's nuts. Yeah. That's why Andy's not got his hand on principle. God, I have to wade through a dozen emails a day for those guys. Please, sir. Dating apps. Easy. Online shopping. Simple. Banking app. Sorted. Life admin. That's what a digital ID could change. 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Not on purpose, as far as we know. Yeah. So you two haven't interacted. You're just a sort of stand-up. I saw that he's a follower. I don't follow him. I can't see his or hers. I don't know. It could be a female Dave Matthews. But I can't see their Instagram stuff because I'm not following them. I see. Right. Sounds like Dave Matthews to me. And it sounds like the real one. Well, yeah, I mean, on the cursory examination, it sounds like The Real Dave Matthews. Yeah, but it's so easy. He'd like to just make a fake The Real Dave Matthews. Absolutely. On the internet, no one knows if you're Dave Matthews or not. Chris writes, you missed the most interesting fact about the Chicago River. What a challenge. And I thought, we can't have done it. I think we did. Really? I think. Yeah. In 1900, it changed direction. Oh. Oh. This is so wild. I just didn't know it at all. It used to be really horrible, right? And it used to empty into Lake Michigan, which is where the principal water source for the city of Chicago. Yeah. So if you're taking water from the lake and it's taking water from the river and there's all sorts of horrible gunk in the river, you've got problems. I see. You've got cholera, which happened plenty. And in 1871, they were trying to stabilize a local canal. They pumped some water in. It temporarily reversed the flow of the Chicago River. And they thought, hang on, this is an idea. And so they created a canal to imitate a downhill direction for the river, moved millions and millions of cubic yards of earth. And these days, it runs out of Lake Michigan and down eventually into the Gulf of Mexico, via another river. Is that right? Isn't that stunning? That's very cool. They just reversed it. They raised Chicago around that time, didn't they? Remember, the entire city was raised by like a meter or so. Really? What? I think that's right. I think, yeah, it's ringing a bell. I wonder if this was part of the same thing. Why do they? I think the problem is, I can't really remember. But I'm sure they did it. Where's my phone? Let me just quickly check it. You two talk amongst yourselves for a minute. Dan, you watched anything good lately? I started watching White Lotus. Oh, yeah. It's good. It's okay, yeah. They're all a bit mean, aren't they? I'm only an episode in. Oh, well, okay, enough of this red hot banter. The 1850s and 1860s engineers carried out a piecemeal raising of central Chicago to lift the city off its low-lying swampy ground. Good lord. So they raised a load of buildings just so that they would get out of the marshes, but it's not related to the thing that you said. But very interesting and also confusing because, you know, if you raise a bit, raise a city to the ground, that's the opposite of what we wanted you to do. Very good. Right. That's for the moment. Enough of your brilliant facts. If you'd like to send in more, just email what you've got to podcast at qi.com. We love receiving them, but now it's time to dish out some of our headline facts from over the years. If you go to patreon.com slash clubfish, you can join clubfish, where you can have ad-free episodes of this podcast. You can have bonus stuff, our fortnightly drop us a line audience feedback show. And if you join at the top tier, we will bestow on you in perpetuity, one of our headline facts. You will become custodian on one of these facts, and we send you even a gorgeous certificate proving your ownership to any doubters. It's really fun. Check it out. patreon.com slash clubfish. Let's dish out some of the facts now. Who should we start with? OK, I'll do one. This fact is now under the custodianship of Mary Sanderlands. And Mary, your fact is that after returning from the moon landing, Buzz Aldrin worked at a car dealership where he failed to sell a single car. I love this. I also understand it. If you go, you're trying to buy a car and someone keeps saying, I was on the moon, you know, I'm not interested. I want to know about the. Do you reckon he would do that conditioning? Oh, I bet he would. Do you think he strikes me as a very uncompromising guy? Also, I'd be terrified to buy a car from Buzz Aldrin. OK. Well, that's scary. He's very scary. He is pretty scary. Yeah, I can imagine just him being quite brisk in a sales situation. Well, I think is that he's about to close a sale and then Neil Armstrong gets in there first. Oh, if only he was at the dealership across the road. That would be amazing. Cashfield's ringing. Yeah. Michael Collins just doing a test drive. Lovely. Yeah, I've got a he's written a couple of autobiographies, Buzz Aldrin, because he really he really struggled when he came back from the moon. There was one of alcohol, there was divorces, all that sort of stuff. Check out this. This is the blurb at the back of his autobiography. On the 20th of July, 1969, Apollo 11 made its historic first landing on the moon. Two years later, astronaut Buzz Aldrin was hospitalized for psychiatric treatment. Wow. Because of what he saw up there? Yes. Sent to the Looney bin. Like, Looney. Looney bin. Absolutely. An old fashioned phrase, but one I think we're bringing back. If it works as a pun, it's not offensive. Got it. But it was like, I think it came from the moon, like because people thought that you went crazy when you saw the moon. As in lunatic. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you're right. Yeah. No harm, no foul. I just like to apologize. Next full moon, your place is going to be full of complaints in person. Shall I do one now? Yeah. This one goes out to Wayne. Wayne, your fact is now that in the middle ages, the Catholic sect, the Cathars, was said to get their name from the fact they liked to kiss a cat's ass. This is the Cathars. I think this was your fact, James. It sounds like me. They were heretics and the Catholic sect. I do like a sect. Yeah. Do you? Yeah. Unnatural sects. I have sects appeal. Nice. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No harm, no foul. Andy's lost an hour to dick pics and you've got sex. No, yeah, it was what middle ages and they used to make up stories of what they did. And they said that they would kiss a cat's bum. And also Satan supposedly sometimes came as a cat. Right. And so it was like kissing Satan's bum. Oh, yeah. Interesting. Rick Bale had a cat called Satan. Did he? Did he? Yeah. That's good. The cat sat on the mat. Satan the mat. Yeah. Set, set, set. You pushed it too far. No, I think it's all good. I think I'd really like it. Off the back a loony bin as well. Come on. This is a man watching on the far away. Exactly. Let's do another one. This goes out to Brad Downing. And your fact is the British pop charts have had three top 50 songs sung exclusively in Latin. Wow. I can't remember. Gaudi Amos. Yeah. Three times over. I can't think of any Latin. Like maybe like a Pia Yezu kind of thing. Yeah. I think they'll probably have been in choral works. Maybe it was a big at Christmas, for example. I feel like there was, I feel like Lil Wayne did a song last year. Maybe it was, as in it had it in the background and he rapped over it. Oh, that wouldn't count unless he's rapping in Latin. I don't know if it's good language to wrap in, like French, because all the, you know, so many similar rhymes at the end of words. French is terrific for rap. I think Latin. Which is why all the great rappers are French. There are some good French rappers. Absolutely. But I think like Latin does have endings, doesn't it? Your verb endings. Any verb. If you end eight sentences in a verb. Absolutely. Then they might rhyme. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Well, there's clearly a thirst for it. So maybe that can be the fish single. My Latin is very weak and yours is not bad, is it? Yeah. I'm not conversational, I'd say. But I could get by. I could get by an inch around, no problem. Okay. Here is another one. This fact is that the way to recognize the Buddha is to look out for webbed feet, a tongue which can reach his ears and withdrawn genitalia. And look at you, Ethan Walker. This is now your fact. You know what? There's some things that you remember from these shows. And I remember listening to the edit of this show. Okay. And I remember where I was skiing. And I was, for some reason, I had to listen to an edit that day. And I was on holiday. And so I was on the ski slopes. And I remember listening to this specific moment. Wow. Lovely situational memory you've got there. I don't even remember which country it was. Yeah. But it would have been so cold you probably also would have had with Lord Gondola Taylor at the time. I've seen the Buddha's tooth in a temple. And candy. Sri Lanka. It's in candy. Well, you would lose a tooth if you were very, very, very nice. So where's candy? It's in Sri Lanka. I was thinking of the joke, so I missed the second bit of that. Doesn't matter. Yeah. Yep. Cool. And it's presumably not his tooth, but claimed to be a relic. Well, I've seen his tooth in, I think, Singapore or somewhere else. It's 32 of the things. I mean, I had the baby teeth. 64? Come on. I'm amazed we haven't got one in this room with us now. Anyway, yes, Buddha. Good, good to know. Keep alert. This one goes out to Holly Flanagan. Holly, this fact is that the whoopee cushion was invented by a Roman emperor called Bacianus. Also known as Bacianus. Also known as Elagabalus. Damn, this is one of, I'd say, this is the fact that I've heard most from you over the years. Yeah. Well, I remember- It's your go-to. You love it. But it's because it was one that I'm pretty sure I found my, you know, sometimes we find facts that are written by others. I was reading an entry on Elagabalus on Wikipedia, and I saw that his birth name was Bacianus, of course, Bacianus. I just couldn't believe that this guy attributed it. And I remember running into you, James. We were in the Covent Garden offices and going, can I save Bacianus? What do you think? And you were like, yeah. And- But was this the first time we ever deliberately mispronounced something for comic effects? I think this is Patience at All for that. Thank God. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was gonna say, it could be. Really? All right, this one's from Michael Reeve, folks. And your fact is now the oldest known purse is decorated with dog's teeth. Oh, yeah. How many teeth do they have? Dogs. Yeah. Buckets. Loads. Great. Canines, all of the Bacanids. All came right in. There's the joke. I do feel a very nice satisfaction. Sometimes I feel like we might just make the same joke again that we made last time 10 years ago. But I feel like sometimes we'll find our way to a new joke. And I think James will have just done that there. Oh, that's lovely to hear. That's good, isn't it? It's really nice. It's like we're getting a second chance to live our entire life. Yeah. This is what Andy does if he goes to a comedy show. He sits on the front row and someone does a joke and he goes, is actually really nice to hear a joke like that on a day like today. Probably the structure of the joke is not something I've really heard before. I'm sorry for being an enthusiast. I'm trying to boost you guys up here. You could have just lulled. But I never lulled. I won't do it. You go straight to ruffle. I do. Okay. That fact was for Michael Reeve folks. This next fact now belongs to Amy Reeve folks. Any relation? No relation. No relation. I assume some relation. We don't know. It could be a coincidence. Yeah. We've had some joint correspondents from Michael and Amy. Well, I would like to know because who's got the best fact. So Michael, your fact is about the oldest known person being decorated with dog's teeth. And Amy Reeve folks, your fact is that according to a 2011 study, 27% of Britons neither love nor hate marmite. Great. That's good. Great fact. I don't know which is my favorite though. So both classics. Oh, that is good. Yeah. I think marmite. I encounter marmite more often than I encounter dog's teeth. I very rarely have dog's teeth on toast of a morning. Let's have one last fact. And this one goes out to John Gallagher. And it's that. The Knights of the Round Table included Lancelot, Gala Had, Gawain and Gareth. Sir Gareth. Gareth. Bald Sir Gareth. Again, I was reading a book of the Knights of the Round Table and when I saw that name I was like, that was Gareth. Yeah. Who's this guy that no one ever talks about? Do you remember anything he got up to? I don't actually know. 12 years go by. And apparently Sir Gareth is nothing to you anymore. I'm a bit blank on this entire episode, I think. I've just found, I've looked on the archive. Here he was King Arthur's nephew and he was maybe on one of, I don't know, he was on the main table, but there were lesser tables. Much like at a wedding. That's what I was going to say. Children's table. Is that there were other round tables and they were, you've got to get to the one with Lancelot. That's really funny. Oh, and turn on the one with Gareth. All right. Well, look, that's enough of our facts. Thank you so much to all of our new custodians of facts. Just to remind you, that's John, Amy, Michael, Brackets, no relation, Holly, Ethan, Brad, Wayne and Mary. Thank you so much to all of you. Thank you to all of you for listening. If you'd like to submit a fact to us, it's podcast at qi.com. That's our email address. And if you'd like to join Club Fish to get ad-free episodes, bonus content and so much more, go to patreon.com forward slash clubfish. 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