Share the Shine with Kenan Thompson

I remember when I auditioned for the Mighty Ducks, like they asked if I could skate and I was like, yeah, I can roll a skate. Couldn't roll a skate at all. But it was just one of those like, they say put special skills at the bottom of the resume to make it look nicer, make it look more interesting. So I'm like, I've been rolling skating, so I'll put that down there. I remember like, I used to fall two feet up when I was skating, you know what I mean? Like real bad falls. Yeah, super duper. You weren't even close to being able to skate. But thank God they taught me. This episode is brought to you by Rivian and Colagard. Hey, you. Well, Craig Robinson, here you are again. You show back up. I'm gonna keep coming if you keep coming. Okay, that's a deal. That's a deal. We're having a lot of fun. This is so much fun. Yeah, loving your color selection. What would you call that? I would call this an olive green. Yeah, yeah, Kelly hooked you up again. She did once again, once again. And you've made it here and put those clothes on just like she told you to, all by yourself. So did I hear a rumor that you have driven your Rivian? Driving my Rivian. It was cool. Yeah, yeah. Got this amazing forest cream Rivian. It is beautiful. It just sits in the driveway, beautiful. I love the look of that car. It's a good looking car. It is an elegant car. And it's bigger than you think once you get in it. It's huge, especially after driving a smaller car. But it was so smooth. And we were on some back roads and some little unpaid things. It didn't feel bumpy. It was the, although I was riding with Malia and she had just gotten into town. Okay. So I'm like, I'm still new driving. New to an electric car, right? And new, cause I don't drive all the time, right? That's right. So this is me and my daughter, we're in the car, just the two of us got the radio on and I'm trying to figure out everything and where do you press this? And she's telling me her life cause she had just gotten into town. She's ready to talk about her. And she's talking and I'm trying to drive and work the pedal. And she's like, and then mom, you know what happened? And I was like, turn the station down and she just going at me. It's like, she's telling me every important news too. So I'm trying to drive my Rivian, play, pay attention to the screen, not hit a deer. But through it all, it was a really smooth ride. But folks have heard us talk about the Rivians that we have been gifted by the company to drive. And Kelly and I finally got to do a long ride where you have to charge it when you're away. Oh yeah, yeah. And because- She was nervous about that. She was a little nervous about it. And I was saying, they do such a good job in their app of showing you not only where the Rivian charging stations are, but where any charging station is. So you're never really out. Out there on your own. And so we drove, I don't know, 400 something miles away, charged it away at a grocery store. And it was way to go. So when they got something to eat, messed around with the dashboard and still finding stuff out. So it was really good. It was really good. And another friend of mine who has a Rivian says that there's a whole camper unit that you can get with it. Yeah, which I didn't, I know that Rivian, they are really pushing outdoor life. So the hood is not, because there's no engine, you can use it as a cooler, but I didn't realize that you could get other accessories. Like there's a cooktop and other kind of, you've never told me about that. But that's cause I haven't been camping. Yeah, but still, those are features that are really pretty interesting for the more outdoorsy people who are Rivian users. But anyway, so I was thrilled. It's a beautiful car and when I get back home, I'm gonna drive it some more. We have a guests of all guests. Yeah, one of my favorite people. He doesn't know that. Well, how could he? I don't think he knows that. Yeah, I guess we never met him. But don't you feel like you should know that. It feels like not only should we know that we know him, but it feels like he should know us. He feels like, I was telling you, he feels like somebody who went to Mount Carmel High School walking down the hallway, cracking jokes on dudes and dudes going to the locker room shaking their head crying. I mean, just, he's that for me. Like if I look at him and he smirks a little, I will start cracking up. And we're talking about Keenan Thompson, you all. Yeah, but before I get too far ahead of myself. Well, let's introduce him so we can get him out here. I will. Keenan Thompson is an award-winning actor, comedian, producer and author. All of that? Yep. Best known for his work on. When did you have time for all that? Saturday Night Live or SNL as people call it. Is that what they say? Yeah, and he's recently wrapped his 22nd season. Dag, he looks like he's 27. I know, and I was telling Julia, our producer, that I've been watching that show since it came on. I'm that old. And I remember when he came on, and I was like, man, they hiring these young brothers on the Saturday Night Live, okay, okay. And he is the show's longest running cast member. So without any further ado, the man who's coming here dressed for the Vineyard, Keenan Thompson. Keenan. It's like Cousin Keenan. Cousin, that's right. What's up? She having fun. Hey, hey, hey. You look so fresh. Brother, man. So fresh is so clean. So fresh for y'all. Pleasure, pleasure, pleasure. You look so fresh is so clean. You know, I wanna go to the Vineyard. Okay, okay, all right, all right. Get your fairy ticket. You know, they have the little ones with the cars. They have the little ones. Yeah, they do. Have you ever been to the Vineyard? I went for Seth Meyers wedding. I was like the one time I went. It was really nice. Yeah, it's lovely. It's lovely. I rented this like yellow, I think Camaro. So I was just like. Oh, so you were. Top down. Right yellow, you know, kind of oblivious to the fact that people will notice me. Ever. But yeah, I was sticking out a little bit on that one. It was fun though. It's like, is that Keenan and that yellow? I mean, I wanna live life, you know? Yeah, you have to live life. You can talk down on the Vineyard, do it on the special. Yeah, but that means you have to like find some time to have a vacation. Yeah, it doesn't happen often. Yeah. That was a good one. Yeah, yeah, well, welcome. Thank you very much. It's so nice to see the two of you in person. And it's good to see you in person to meet you. I really didn't feel like I know you. I mean, I'm sure you get that a lot of people like, man, I feel like we know each other, but I mean. I've been in y'all's face for a long time. You have, you have at all different levels too, you know? Because you got the kid audience that grew up with you. Because our kids, Malia and Sasha, by the time they were watching you, I wasn't watching TV with them, right? You know, you get to that age where it's like, okay. That's yours, yeah. Right, that's what you do. And, but. Yeah, enough of that Mickey Mouse in the background. Yeah, I hear that. But my older kids grew up with you. They're just a little bit younger than you are. But my younger kids only know you from Saturday night a lot. They're 15 and 13. Interesting. Yeah, and they, we let them watch a little Saturday night live before. And what do they think? Yes, that's a good, I am a surprise. What do they think about the show or about you? Both. Yeah, do you? I would love to hear both. Saturday night live. Well, it, this thanks to Malia, I got to, I started letting them watch our rated stuff. So Malia. They were very strict parental parents in terms of viewing. No PG-13. And their older cousin thought that that was ridiculous and told them that they needed to be doing more sneaking. By now they should. It's always them cousins. She was. It's always them cousins. It is them cousins. Kids influence each other the most. Oh goodness. Cousins. But that's what cousins are for. That's what, that's what she felt. She felt like she needed to inform them that she, they shouldn't always be listening to their parents. And thank God it was family. As opposed to like some folks down the street. But Malia of all people. Malia. Yeah, but you know, it's a little harness. I can see if it was Sasha, but Malia. I mean, but they're 15 and. 13, 15 and 13. That's what Malia's point was. It's, it's about that time. You want them to be street smart. Yeah, we do because they, you know, they grown up a little differently than we are. Exactly. And we did. You know, you, you wanted to give them that as well kind of thing because you want to spoil them, you know, because you work hard and it's like, I'm working hard to give these things to you. But then you see that they might not be appreciating in it as much. So you got to pull back some. Exactly. But you know, it's all leading up to those Rivian times, you know, like you get back to a reunited person and y'all have a conversation and it's like, look at this fully formed, totally separate, you know, adult human being kind of approaching adulthood kind of thing. How old are your daughters now? They are the little one is turning seven in a couple of days. And the big one's 11. Yeah. They can't be on me. I don't have babies anymore. I know. But see, that's why you're in that deep parenting mode. You know, I mean, you see how quickly. You see it rolled off his tongue about good. Well, because that's all you were thinking about, right? I mean, 24 seven for the last 11 years. For Keena Thompson, Saturday Night Live, you're just like, look at these two people growing up in front of my face. Absolutely. It's the greatest thing in the world. You know, literally witnessing miracles, you know. So it's been the best thing I've ever done in my opinion. Other people look at my work on television, but for me looking outwards always, like they're the greatest, you know? Yeah, sweethearts. What's been the hardest part of being a, cause you have two girls. Yeah. I think waiting on the turn, and you know, like right now they're like very sweet and they're nice to their mom. You've heard about the turn, huh? And I've heard about that turn that could have, sometimes it doesn't happen to them. Sometimes it doesn't. You know, or sometimes it's quick and they come back around pretty quickly, kind of hoping for that. Here's the thing. Like, you know, I always say, to the minute they show up, you're preparing them for the turn, right? And all the other stuff. Like sometimes people as parents, they're like, well, I'll wait until you 20. And I'll start talking to you about the things I'm worried about, or I'll start worrying about your attitude. But at all, it's every day. Yeah. What kinds of things are you working on as a father today that's going to think, prepare them? I mean, it just telling them and reminding them that they are family. You know what I mean? They're so competitive with each other, you know? And that's fine to have a competitive nature and understand the other. But I want to remind them that this is what you have. This sibling bond that you have is very strong. It's probably the strongest on the planet, you know? But if you don't use it the correct way, if you waste it, or if you just waste the young years and you don't get to know each other until later, I just don't want them wasting time arguing over who gets to sit where in the car or who gets to press what elevator. But you know what I mean? I always want to remind them that y'all should love each other. Family is a beautiful thing. It's a beautiful thing to stay connected like that. Because me and my siblings are close. And I'm a witness to what it's like to be able to live long life with your siblings and have people that support you, you know, no matter what kind of thing. You know, I'm witnessing you two. Like, it's a beautiful thing. How many brothers and sisters do you have? I have one of each. Uh-huh. Yeah. What was growing up? I'm from Atlanta. Yeah, yeah. Southern Baltimore. Southside, yes indeed, right by the airport. Grew up with my manners, you know? Large, extended family, lots of cousins. I like that you grew up with your manners. I grew up with my manners. You look like you know what your manners are. I was gonna say, Miss Nathalette, your grace. Call me Michelle. Alright. Wait, wait, let's see, call her Michelle. Michelle. It's tough. It's hard, it's tough. You should, no. If you like that, no. I absolutely do. We want to call you Madame Obama. We want to call you Empress. We want to call you all kinds of things. You can call me anything after you kneel. To call you, yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Did I miss the kneel? I didn't do the kneel. Yeah, no. It's a beautiful thing. My parents are from small town, Virginia, Lynchburg, if you ever heard of it. And yeah, all my cousins, extended family from around that area. And spent a lot of summers growing up there. So I have a perspective of, you know, what it's like to maybe not have grown up with a lot of opportunity kind of thing. And at what age? I mean, you guys started so young. When did you feel like, oh, I think I want to do this? Pretty early. Probably my first paycheck. Like I started acting when I was five doing theater and stuff like that. And you knew you wanted to do that. I enjoyed it, but when I was like 11, I did a commercial. That was like a real job. And then they paid me like $800. And I was like, at 11 years old, that might as well have been a million. Sure. I was like, yeah, I like this. I had cut grass and stuff before and it's 20 bucks a yard. And that's a lot of work for $20. If you can actually sign that house up, you got to walk the neighborhood which is hot in Atlanta. So like I knew work. Yeah. And I didn't like it. There's air conditioning on set. Yeah, and treats and snacks. And treats. What was the commercial? The first one. It was for this fried chicken restaurant called Lee's famous country recipe chicken. Ooh, two large mouthful. Really? Were you an outlier? I mean, were the kids in your group all rehearsing and plays, or were you one of one in your... I mean, my brother and I kind of started together. We both went to Sears to get our headshots done. I remember that. Sears. Sears. The headshots for Sears. Folks don't know about Sears. Sears robot. Manson, you'd get your tires shamed. I think this was Sears outlet, which was even furthering. Oh, yeah. Yeah, because... That's right. That's right. But you remember Sears catalog? Christmas catalog, man. Yes. Yes. Yeah, it went from this to this. To back to... That was bathroom reading. And pages of coupons-ish. Coupons-ish, they kind of just showing you what they got. So headshots. This is before the internet. Headshots at Sears. And I think borrowed sweaters. I think we put the sweaters back after the photo shoot. From the rack. I feel like I have that in me. We're just trying these on baby gangsters. No haircut. That's gangster. So the first headshots was very spiky little afros. Yeah. Adorable, though. I thought we were two cute little kids. And then my brother grew up and went to college and became cool. And then I stayed kind of in it. And yeah, that's how it kind of started. But pulled out of auditioning. Were you able to have a normal childhood? Were you still playing outside? Or when did it change? That comes... I was, I think, kind of a great version of a child actor story because I didn't really start working until I was like 15. So I was kind of already up there as far as knowing who I am as a person. And it's... At 15. Listen to you. It's ish. I know my values, my manners just that and the other. And I'm ready to go out in the world and figure out if I can start working or to start towards a career, whatever that might mean. So... MUSIC This segment is presented by Progressive Insurance because true progress starts when people are empowered with the knowledge and support to take bold steps forward. And being prepared always made me feel really good. And I think back to the times when I was coaching, whether it was as an assistant coach at Northwestern or a head coach at Brown or Oregon State, whenever my teams were prepared, I always went into the game feeling like we had a more than 80% chance to win the game. And it is amazing how when you hit all the notes in practice, the games are easy. Yeah, that makes it fun. When I realized the importance of preparation in making something hard fun was actually in law school when I had my first moot court competition. Ooh. Daunting. Yeah, it was daunting, but I didn't really know what it was. It was first year everybody had to compete in moot court. And I was, for the practice, because you've got an opportunity to practice, and you were actually making a case, a closing argument. It was a criminal case. And I think I was representing the defense. My partner was representing the prosecution if I have it right. And we had to present our closing arguments to the jury. So instead of preparing, I didn't have time. So I thought, well, I'll go in and I'll wing it. And you were taped. And I got to watch how bad I was taped when I wasn't prepared. And it was probably the most painful experience for me to watch myself on tape not be prepared. And I think that was probably the first and last time that I decided to wing it. And I understood that. I also found out that when I did prepare for the actual moot court trial, it was more fun, just like you said, because then you can flow. Same thing with the big speech. When I'm prepared for a big speech, if I know what I'm saying, if I've gone over the process, if I know what it feels like to stand in front of the podium to get a feel for how the mic sounds, to get used to the lights and the sounds, then the speech can just flow. So preparation for me has always been a part of not just showing up right, but enjoying the process along the way. Until your brother walks up next to you and says, the left prompter is out. Well, yeah, that was our famous story. In the first big speech, national speech I had, at the first Democratic National Convention, where you introduced me and we had teleprompters. And we had practiced. We were prepared. It was great. But one of the prompters went out in the middle of your introduction. 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It started on our show. And it was the first movie that came from our show. And we were both in it, me and Kel. And that was my brother and is my brother. And we just had such a good time. We were 18 at that time. So we were like, yes, bring this all on now, please. Now, what were your parents on all of this? How did they feel? Did you feel like they were watching? Were they engaged as you were going through this process? Very supportive. Yeah. Yeah. My mom was my main pusher, my main foundational, because she's the type of person that got a job in my theater school so I could take classes there. Yeah. So she's that person. And I remember we drove to Charlotte for an audition that I didn't get. We came back the same day and she was like, don't worry about it. We'll meet on the next one. So shout out to all the parents that are like, really, really excited about this. Shout out to all the parents that are like, really supporting their kids' dreams and endeavors, even if you don't know where it's headed, because we didn't know where it was headed. It was just something that I wanted to do on top of everything else. Like I was still playing sports and playing music and all kind of stuff, but I didn't have rockstar dreams necessarily. I maybe had maybe football dreams, but I was little still. And everybody else was turning into monsters. I'm like 9th, 10th grade. It was starting to get real. Especially any good old fed. Sit down, down, south, south. It's like, I'm not going in there with them. Shoot. Yeah, these are real beasts. Shoot, they're some real dudes down there. Yeah, man, just kid beasts. But I had always enjoyed performing and I just, I couldn't stop it. Did you ever have a point in time before, when you were young in your career, where you did get a little bit of a big head? I mean, what was that like? Yeah, I was very kind of naively cocky, going into certain auditions. Like I remember when I auditioned for the Mighty Ducks, like they asked if I could skate and I was like, yeah, I can roll the skate. Couldn't roll the skate at all. But it was just one of those, they say put special skills at the bottom of the resume to make it look nicer and make it look more interesting. So I'm like, I've been roller skating. So I'll put that down there. I remember like, I used to fall two feet up when I was skating, you know what I mean? Like real bad falls. They would have epic falls. Yeah, super duper. Like you weren't even close to being able to skate. But thank God they taught me how to play. And I can skate to this day, but just one of those things that you just kind of, kind of try to make yourself a little more appealing, if that's not necessarily the case kind of thing. Yeah, but that's not a bad thing. I mean, stretching. I can do skilish stretching, but that's not, I mean, that's just that. That's harmless. That's a tactic. But that's easily figured out though. Yeah, no, no, I know, but to me that doesn't qualify. It could have cost you the job, but I was willing to take that risk. But if you having a big head, you know, or going, I mean, that means you were hustling. Sorry, back to that part, yes. When after Mighty Ducks, I thought I was a movie star, you know, so I was like, after one kid movie where I like my character kind of helped save the day, not necessarily the only, but I'm the hero, you know. I'm the hero of the sequel of the Mighty Ducks. So that means I'm in the game, you know. So when I auditioned for all that, it was a different approach to it because I was introduced to the producers as opposed to like being heard it in. So it was like a meeting, you know what I mean? It's over with, you know what I'm saying? They made with me, bro. Like, what we talking about? We might as well just like go on, grab lunch or something like this, it's over with. I got this. And I just was like, what y'all need? Y'all need a Jamaican? Y'all need an old man? I got, I just threw him out there like it was nothing. But I think that confidence was like, you know, something that was appealing to them, you know. It's like, oh, he's kind of ready to perform. You don't have to worry about stage fright, I guess or something like that. So yeah, I was a little naive on that one, but it helped because I do get very nervous. I still get nervous for every show. Really? Yeah, yeah. Oh man. And I was like trying to talk to different people about it, especially for stand up. That's why I don't do stand up because it stresses me out. Like if I have a gig, that's all I'm thinking of. You're not, you can't sleep. Like days out, you know, like I'm just, I can't not focus on that. And then like, if I travel to a town and going out in the town, you know, I'm just in the hotel, passing around, watching TV, writing things, just wait, taking the time away. And it just feels so wasteful. So it's not my, that's obviously not my thing. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, but you have been the longest running cast member of SNL. That's the most terrifying thing. People have asked me to do a lot of things. You see, I've been on talk shows. I've been skits with people I've done, but SNL, I would never do that. That's wild because to me it is- It would be terrifying. Just what you described to me, I wouldn't sleep that week. I'd be worrying. I'd be worrying about looking at the camera. I don't know how you all do that. Yeah, and my heart goes out to that because I know that feeling, you know? But I just don't have it there because I'm very comfortable there. I mean, we did a lot of sketches growing up. And then the live factor doesn't bother me much because it's a large group of people doing it together. You know what I mean? And there's a lot of people like getting you to where you need to be and like, all I gotta do is read the words. I can do that, you know? Like I can like stay focused enough and like deliver my part of it. And then there's so many people helping you get to that point. And you have to write yourself to that point. Yes, that's another tough part of it. But like the actual show, once it's at that point, it doesn't stress me like going to yuck yucks and having to do 17 minutes of like- Say it's all on you. I hate waiting in lines or you know, what is with these air to TSA, you know? I just don't like make fun of stuff. Go back to you have to write yourself. What does that mean? We write on SNL. So like the best way to like make yourself known there is to write for yourself in the beginning, you know? So you have to like- Write your own suits. Write your own- For better or for worse, like put yourself out there so people can kind of see what your sense of humor is or what you'd like to focus on. I was lucky that I was able to balance it more with performance than writing. And I would collab write with a lot of people. But anytime I wrote on my own, it went all over the place. You know, I have a hard time like staying linear or whatever. I'll just be writing based on like what's on my mind at the time. And then when I look back at it, I'm like, come on. That's insane. It makes no sense. Martin Luther King talking to Jay-Z. That doesn't happen. When does that happen? Where is it going? You know, where is that? What's the point? Where it's going to end? So when you first got on Saturday Night Live, you have to go on as a writer or had had a little talk about the process. There's some people that get hired as either a writer or a cast member. And when you get hired in the beginning, you are a repertory player, I think. So that's a two-year kind of staging process. And then you become a full player. OK. If I'm getting the terms right. Have your face on the opening credits and come popping out of New York and smoking a cigarette. It's who's that? Hey, Louie, you're OK. When do you get to be? What is it? As soon as you get hired as a cast member. Yeah. So if you get in the cast, OK, get a title in the beginning and you get to do your spin around. Was that like for you when you were huge deal? And like it was it was hard to comprehend it still being the same show that I grew up watching because now I'm on it. And I'm like, I thought this was serious comedy. But they hired me. Yeah. And I was 25. So I was young. And like I was I was ready to do kind of whatever. But it was just very surreal. You know, it was it was hard to see it as the same kind of place. And then I was like worried. I'm like, have I changed it forever? Like am I am I really worthy of this? You know what I mean? Because I don't write. You know what I mean? And I don't know what my sense of humor. Like I don't know what my point of view is as a. You know, when you approach comedy or whatever. Like what am I trying to say with my jokes? I don't know. Like I'm used to like playing around in chocolate. You know what I'm saying? Just doing whatever. And now I have to be serious and like, you know, do college kind of educated material. And I didn't finish college. But you know, whatever. I was a little bit busy. You were working already. Yeah. You had a job. Yeah. That's why people go to college. Yeah. To try to figure it out. But yeah, I had to figure it out. And he was in my way. Mm hmm. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, it was it took me a while to figure out how to write sketches. Did you have a mentor on the show that's sort of like, hey, Keenan, this is how you go about getting to the next level. Is that is that? Yeah, I mean, I hear you do that. For people, if they ask, I try to be there for people because I remember being very lost in the beginning. Yes, because, you know, a lot of people, you know, come from improv houses or they come from stand up, you know, two big communal worlds, basically, where they not by themselves. Now, a lot of people come from already being an actor or already being a kid's performer or anything and just, you know, just being an actor, you know, most people are like real comics that like wind up getting hired there and like are always like hyper focused on it. So they know it very well. They've shared stories or they read the books, you know, like I went into it just blind, you know, based on what I've been watching on TV or whatever. Not knowing how small the studio was, not knowing much about Manhattan, you know, and all that kind of stuff. And it was just like a tornado of learning everything on the fly. And it's like college, not everybody's just going to pull you aside and teach you how to do it. But Tracy Morgan was a real one from day one. I love him. It's my brother. He was just like in his own kind of way, telling us little tidbits, like, don't peek at dress. What? Oh, don't peek at dress. Oh, OK. That's a good one. Golden nugget. Yeah. Because, yeah, the live show is what matters. You know what I'm saying? So if you peek at dress, it's like, yeah, you kind of just wasted it a little bit. You know, and like you don't really have that luxury to do that in your first few years, you know, because everybody is trying to do their very best. You know, because this is the life changing job. You know what I'm saying? Like if you do it well, it can change your life. If you do it bad, it can change your life. Yeah. You know what I mean? So it's a lot of stress. And I see the stress on newcomers. You know what I'm saying? So I always try to be like a friendly ear or if I see things, you know, when we're rehearsing stuff, I try to suggest, you know, maybe like this, I should be this or maybe like, what about this idea? I'm like, I'm always trying to like participate in, you know, helping others sketches, you know, get as good as they can be, you know, just try to be helpful basically because when you're stressing like that, you just you're not thinking clearly. You know what I mean? You're not relaxing enough to be funny. Exactly. You know, so how do you how do you relax to be funny? You know, what's what's your what's your tip? I will never do SNL. I would if I were going to do SNL. I think you could do it because I think you would recognize the the communal push uphill, which is the show. We're all trying to push the show to the top of the hill every single week, you know, and everybody is hyper focused and committed to the same goal. You know, no matter what their politics might be or whatever, everybody is respectful of the place. It's it's almost like a temple, you know what I mean? And like there's nobody trying to make it go left at all. Nobody wants anyone to fail at all. You know, and I think once you settle into that warmth, I think you start to embrace the only thing that matters is kind of what makes you laugh, you know what I mean? And it's not really about anything else because it's your night. And it's up to us to make your night as special as possible, which is like, I love that I grew up very ensemble minded. So like I'm all about let somebody else have the shine. And I will help that shine be as bright as possible. Like I love that. You you like just sitting here for the listeners, the watchers. You're just such a regular dude. Yes, you know, um, Taurus in the house. Yeah, shout out shout out to the main tourists. OK, enough. The real ones. You heard whatever. Yeah, you're welcome. 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Home ownership is one of the biggest investments you'll ever make, and Progressive wants to help more. Any memorable favorite sketches that, like when people ask you what are some of your favorite sketches? Mine? Yes. Absolutely. I mean Scared Straight was my first love because it was the first like idea that I had personally made on the show. That's what makes me. And it still goes. I can't believe they picked it for the 50th. It was just a special man. Eddie and Will felt like crazy. So that was a very, very special moment because that was like the first thing that I loved and had an idea about that actually was transferable to the show kind of thing. I had a lot of things before that that just made no sense or they were just a little too obvious or been done before. And there's a lot of like lineage there, especially as far as like Black culture's concerns like how many times can you do a person in an Afro? How many times can you do this? So figuring it out was, it took me five years. Like Scared Straight didn't come to my fifth season. Wow. And it took me a while. And then what's up with that? Of course. What's up with that? Family fuse, Black jeopardy, all the good Black stuff. Yeah. What's it like having your face in the world? I mean, how do you get about? How do you, how has it, look, I live in a, we live in a bubble. We were raised just like you, me more so. I'm in a bubble, me and my husband. That's not how we were raised. We believe in the same thing that, you know, it's a lot, every time we moved up somewhere, we brought our community with us. A lot of it selfishly because it's no fun being in the White House with no friends or to be there with people you didn't really know. They didn't come there with you. They didn't help you get there. You ever think about changing the name? Obama. What would you pick, Kenan? What do you think? The Black House, man. This, this for a little while. Just for a little while. Just for a little while. You know, we did it, we had it across our mind. Yeah, it had. It had. Yeah. That's because y'all good. You got nine people. People haven't thought about it. But it's, you know, it changes the way you have to live. Whether you like it or not. And I'm just wondering what, what of those changes, what have been the hardest changes for you, especially given your poor? I mean, it's invasive, you know? It's invasive and it's tougher for me when it's tough on other people that are around me that get affected kind of thing. You know, like, I can, I'm, you know, I'm a man out here. I can handle, you know, whatever is coming my way because I feel like I'm putting myself in those positions. But when people get it by default necessarily, just for, you know, being associated, you know, it's, you know, that's when it starts to bother me more so than anything. Because like, I don't want to impede on other people, you know, I don't want to be a burden or, you know, cause strife where strife wasn't necessarily there at first kind of thing. And it's terrible to be the cause of stress, you know? So that bothers me, especially like in public when people come up, you know, like they want to take pictures and blah, blah, blah, blah. Like I'm usually cordial unless I'm with my little ones and then I feel like that's their time. That's the only time where I'm a little standoffish or whatever. But even when I see like it's, you know, bothering the intent of the day, like we're trying to go to a museum or whatever, then I'll just like ask for people not to do that because it's bothering someone else kind of thing. But for me, New York is good for that, you know? I can put my hat on and I can just walk and be amongst the millions, you know what I mean? That's true. Some people recognize and, you know, they say, what's up, you know, the real ones, shout out to all the FedEx delivery dudes. But, you know, people like that, that are, you know, just feet on the ground, they'll see you and they'll say, what's up? But I've never been one of those people that people need to flock towards or start like pulling at necessarily. Like a lot of people just say, hey, and keep it moving. Or they'll say, thank you or like, we love you. My family loves you, you know, and they'll keep it moving. But there are other places where, you know, it gets excessive like, you know, certain settings like Disney World is a setting where families are in the mode to like do for their children. So they want to get picked. They want to do, you know, they want to introduce, you know, they're just, they don't care about boundaries or definitely like you here. We meet Mickey Mouse. We here, you know, right. And my baby's getting a picture with Mickey Mouse. It's just bearish. You're just embracing in those moments, you know, as opposed to trying to be like, let us have our space. Because then I start feeling a little bad. Like I usually walk away from awkward encounters. And I think I live with it more than they do almost, you know, because I think people just, you know, go about their daily lives. But I'm always just like, man, are they going to hate me for one in my space? You know, some days you just not in the mood, you know, you're just not in the mood to be famous kind of thing. I just have too much going on to like smile through it kind of stuff. And I just need to process sometimes. And if you've run into me on those days, I'm sorry. You know what I'm saying? But it happened. Yeah. Yeah. And if you allow yourself those days, it's not that hard to like pull the rubber band back the other direction and just like take a deep breath. Suck it up. You can do this. You know what I mean? And just let's attack the day. And then, you know, when you are ready and people don't notice, that's when it's like, oh, see, you know what I'm saying? Like when you like, you want somebody to say like nice outfit ain't nobody can attest to you. You know, it's going to be grateful. We were talking about and with some of the crew, we were talking about how this business just chews up and spits out people in general. But particularly young people who start young and you've been able to sort of dodge those mind fields. But now we're sitting here talking to you. It makes perfect sense. Like you have a way about you that you were raised right and continue to live right. So you just stay out of trouble. Yeah. I mean, you know, trouble going to find you if you stay out. If you stay looking for it, trouble going to come your way. Yeah. But I mean, I just I'm relaxed. You know, I'm 47 at this point. So I am really like out there just running around while looking for chaos. Like I was when I was in my proving years of being 19 and 20 and feeling invincible kind of thing. I would much rather Netflix and chill than, you know, turn all the way up. But turning up is fun as well. You know, but I have a good balance now. You know what I'm saying? Like I understand, you know, what I got to do the next day. You know, I got to check my calendars before I go out now. You know, I usually just running out the door whenever it was time kind of thing. But now it's like, oh, man, that's I got that zoom. What was what was in 30 is always a zoom. It's like, better have some sleep, some water hydrate. At least I can just be in my shirt for the zone. But I got to be in my shirt. I got to actually show up. What is turn up Keenan? Like like anybody that grew up in Atlanta, I don't know. I'm trying to figure that out. You know, just trying to figure it out. We turn up top of this. There's sparkles everywhere. Pop and bottle. You know, we stand on top of thousands of us. You know what I mean? Like that's just how it is. Like I grew up in the hip hop. So yeah, it's hip hop culture, basically. And just in Atlanta, there was a whole lot of standing around, I guess, because it was probably dangerous to just be one of those people that gets like noticed necessarily. You become a target or whatever. So mostly holding the wall, which means just standing on the wall and kind of like, you know, people watching basically kind of stuff. I'm not a big dancer necessarily. You're not? I dance in place. You got, you got like one move? I got a few. Okay. But it's in place. It's not like I need to clear the dance floor and show everybody. It's just, you know, got to go in the shoulders. And like this one hip dip. Okay, you got one hip dip in there. There's a hip dip in there. Well, when you come to the venue, we're gonna have to see your hip dip. I'm gonna show it. Like it's just special occasions, but like in the club, you know, it's just, yeah. Yeah. Usually it's not enough space to even like do all of that. Everybody's like, what are you doing? Have you gotten to the point where like, I don't want to stand. Like I can't. You don't stand no more? You don't stand. You sit down at the club? You sit down at the club? I don't go to the club. Because if I have to stand, and the notion of watching a concert standing up. Oh, you sit down at the concert? I have to. I'm 61. I need a seat. Let her rest. That's what I feel like getting from your shape. I still, I have less enjoyment. Here's an IMO. Less enjoyment. Less enjoyment. Here's an IMO. No one should stand up through an entire concert. In my opinion, everyone should sit down. Yeah, sit down. Everyone. You want to just sit down. And then get up for the moment. Yeah, yeah. But then people will get up for the moment. And now it's like, oh no, I got to stand up. And I was about to say, what do you do when people stand up in front of you? Do you just continue to sit? Or do you ask them to sit down? You have to stand up. You have to stand up. You can't ask them to sit down. You have to sit down. You have to stand up. And then I want to see. Yeah. So now I got to. But I will have a period of trying to sit. There will be a period when I'm going to try and sit. I'm going to see if I can just encourage everyone. Sit for a while. Sit for a while. I'm sitting. Can we all just go back to doing this? Does it work? No, it doesn't. And then I have to get up. But are you at that stage? Yeah. I do enjoy sitting through most of it. But I think things should have levels. You know? So like I'm not just going to stand the whole time. And I'm also worried that people can see. Like I'm very conscious of that. A lot of people ain't going to be so inconsiderate. I try to be. Which is what bothers me so much about like traffic. I be going crazy in traffic because people can be so inconsiderate. They can. Yeah. You know? Yeah. And like when people are standing around. Like I get it. It's a sport thing. But like, you know. Come on. So does it take you forever to get everywhere? Or is it pretty quick? In New York. In New York. Yeah. I mean, it doesn't make sense to have a motorcade in New York. I know it sounds. That's a crazy statement. It's almost impossible. Never thought I'd make it. But no, it's really. That's what makes New York not so much fun. Because you know, you're watching people walk faster than you. It's like I saw him. Yeah. Like he left two hours before and he beat us there. Forget about us people on the bikes. That's right. We go everywhere. Oh, you ride in New York. You ride your bike in New York. You, Kenan, are on a bike in New York. That sounds a little dangerous. One of those electric bikes? Are you pedaling like a human being? We visit bikes sometimes. But I have my own bike. Yes. And we cycle. But we like, there's the bike path. Yes. Just on the other side. Yes. Like I did the thing through the streets. And actually like hit somebody and broke my arm years ago. You did? Yeah. Which is actually the same. Tell us about this. So it was like I had a lunch that was like a few blocks away from the studio. So I was like, I'll just grab a bike. Oh, so you were a grown person. Yeah. This was. With a job. Not too long. This was when the Orange Man hosted last, I think. Oh, yeah. So it was that week. It was like a Tuesday. So like I was like, you know, we make our own schedule kind of on Tuesday. Because I'm riding that line on Wednesday morning. So like got all day. So there I go to lunch and then I'll go to work. And the lunch was like nine blocks, four or five avenues. I was like, I'll grab a bike. Take a bike riding on one of the streets. So in New York, you know, there's not a lot of space when you're on the streets. On the avenues is different. But on the streets is like parking, parking traffic. So there really ain't no space to just be doing it. We didn't end out. Yeah. I watched that from my motorcade. Yeah. I think this looks dangerous. So I'm just like riding down in between, you know, traffic and park cars or whatever. And of course, this guy just came flapping up out of nowhere. And then I hit him with, you know, one of the handlebars. Like I didn't like crash and flip over necessarily, but I hit him enough to make me fall down. And then like, I was like, I remember, you know, that hurt whatever, but I could still move my arms. I was like, I'll just ride the bike. It was a little numb. But you know, as the time, you know, as the blood started feeling like that pain started setting in and like 15, 20 minutes later, I was at my desk kind of. So I made it work. But like then I started like not being able to move my arm. And like, I remembered that feeling because I broke this arm when I was a kid. I broke my wrist, but this was like my elbow. And I was like, and you're old and I'm old. It's an old elbow. And we got a show to do. 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I'm hopeful that this is a childhood thing, like me wanting to be an astronaut or a TV star as a kid. But still, I'd want her to follow her own intellectual interests or think about how she wants to be an impactful person. How do I talk to my daughter about this? Why do you think so many people want to be famous? And what would you tell a kid about what it's really like? Sandy in New Jersey. Wow. Thank you, Sandy, in New Jersey. Yes. Yes. See what I mean? Absolutely. Yeah, I'm very familiar with fame, wanted or unwanted because I didn't get into this for fame. I got into it because I enjoyed performing. And I definitely wanted to be successful, but I didn't really understand what being famous really meant. And it took a while for me to navigate what that is based on being a person, going through whatever you're going through. You also have to be somewhat courteous to your fans, you know what I mean? Regardless of whether you're embracing that day or not kind of thing. And it would have been nice to have had someone instruct me in those kinds of ways. It was kind of something I had to figure out on my own, like how to deal with the fact that I can't go to Chuck and Cheese like that anymore, kind of thing, without being prepared to do this, you know what I mean? Or whatever. It would have been nice to have had a fame manual or something like that. But it does have its upsides. Like fame can launch you into your profession early. It can be financially beneficial. So if you use it for the betterment of things, then yeah, it has its perks. But it's also very fleeing. You know what I mean? So if you're attached to being famous, then that's the most heartbreaking thing when you go to a mall and nobody notices or cares. Because at some point you're going to get aged out. You're just going to not be like, you're not going to treat leave it to be like the classic it was because it's not your time. And I would say she's right for being concerned about her daughter just wanting to be famous. Because if that's the goal, then it probably won't last long. And a lot of these like influencer people or whatever usually come and go pretty quickly from what I've been noticing. So I would focus on like what's the passion behind all that pursuit. You know, the passion is something that's good for the world. I can get behind that, you know, because TikTok is giving us a lot of information. You know what I mean? So it can be a good tool. You know, it's really interesting that the term fame for fame's sake. Like we didn't grow up with that phrasing. Right. Those words were around, but that phrasing fame for fame's sake. And it feels more like to me that these young folks are willing to be famous at any cost or at any expense. It just and that feels very unhealthy. It's like it's so important to be famous that they're willing to, you know, how they used to say in the old days, sell their souls to the devil. Right. And I want to make sure that we let Sandy know that there's a discussion that should be had with your daughter about, you know, being famous is okay and being not famous is okay. But you shouldn't be at a cost that's detrimental. It's burdensome. You know, I don't think you realize like what a burden it can really be like. Yes, it's nice to like go to a restaurant without a reservation or whatever. You know, but at the same time, if you look at most of the famous people in this world, a lot of them haven't done well with that side of it. You know what I mean? A lot of people just want to be able to go to the gas station, you know, I mean, or go to the grocery store without having to like put on brand new knikies or whatever, just because they're a rapper, you know, so it's not anything to necessarily play with. And I feel like they play with it a lot on social media, you know what I mean? Like how much cash can I show or how much, you know, child, how many, you know, this challenge or that challenge, you know what I'm saying? Is that going to like get my like so for this, you know, let me take a selfie in a dangerous position, you know, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But I think artists and creativity, you know what I mean? It's a good thing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I always say there's no way for a young people, a young person to understand the value of anonymity, you know, I think the thing that I miss most in life is just the ability to be in the world unobserved, you know, there's just a beauty to be able to sit on a sidewalk cafe with a couple coffee. But as a tall person. It was the last time you were saying you were just going anywhere and knowing it. Thank you, and thank you because that is, go ahead, finish your point. True, but the point is, is that that's, it's uncomfortable to, whether it's because you're famous or tall or distinguishable to miss out on blending in in the world and just being able to watch it. Right. I mean, that's a, that's a pretty complex concept to try to articulate to a young person, right? Or to kind of anyone because it's such a dichotomy. Oh, we can deep with the word. Yeah. Yeah. It's such a like double edged sword because the grass is always greener. Like the people that are blending in or figuring out how to stand out. Oh, that's right. So it's like, what do you do with what the hand you're playing a hand you don't. But I think the point you make about what I would say to Sandy, I would echo what you said, keep your, your child focused on the passion. And if there's a real passion there, you know, then encourage it. I mean, there's some people who look at some child stars that are getting famous or their parents are encouraging it and they're like, ooh, what's going on? What are they trying to do? Well, you know, you don't know that child. Right. You know, they may, they may have, and there are kids out there who have such a deep, deep yearning to make music or to perform that it's really not the parent. It is the child's passion that's speaking. And that can show up at four and five and seven and 12. And so it's, it's hard to judge a parent that says, I'm just trying to let my kid explore the thing, the gift that they were given. Right. That is, that's a different thing. And now parenting with that, that gift, that, that's an art, that's an art form. Because you've got to help them learn how to protect themselves as they invest in the gift, which means that mom and dad and everybody around them can't want it more than they do. And that would be something I would want to make sure that Sandy is clear on is like, when it's your kid, you have to be even more clearheaded about their wants when they're, you know, especially when they're entering into dicey territory of fame or social media exposure. Because, you know, is it you that wants it? You know, are you really looking for their passion or have you as a parent fallen prey to the fame and the money and the, you know, we grow, you know, we grow, especially kids like kids might like soccer today and hate it the next day, you know, so we as adults know you got to give yourself space to grow and like continue to grow and become your best version of yourself. But if you don't allow that for a child and then you add fame on top of it, it's a pretty toxic mix more than likely. And I think that common denominator of the ones that have been able to navigate it is family. It is parents that are like behind you and focused, not necessarily pushing you past your boundaries necessarily, but encouraging. Yes. And like you said, it can't just be for them. It can't be like, you know, the crazy momager and poppagers or whatever that's out there that just want to be living vicariously kind of thing, you know, so. What if your kid said that? I want to be like you. I want to be in it. That little can we bring my daughter in here? That little one wants to be on and she's going to be mad if she doesn't get a chance to come in here. She can come in here. Can we get my little like my two little girls? Where is she? Bring them in. They'll take a minute to walk down the hallway. But she's a ham and her sisters a ham too. Like they both they get silly and they have their moments and they want, you know, to be on stuff. We did a Nintendo commercial together. Oh, really? It's the greatest day of my life because they had their own trailer, you know what I mean? And like they just had their own little world and we worked together for hours and hours and hours and hours and hours. So focused and my big girl was like she like she focuses hard on things and she wants to get everything right. You know, first born kids, I think have a lot of mental responsibility on their minds. So watching her, you know what I mean? Like take direction and like take it really seriously. I could have cried all day. So sweet. And yeah, that little one she just, you know, she wants to be a star. She sings, you know, she likes attention. So we are watching her. Right. You know what I mean? Because yeah, we want her to like understand the difference. You know, there's a difference between enjoying attention and just wanting to be famous kind of thing. You know what I mean? And like I think enjoying attention can be easily massaged into performance and becoming an artist and stuff like that. When it's like you just want to fame is like they feel like you're leaving the arts out a little bit, you know, which is sadder. Yeah. You know, it's a little sadder. Yeah. And there they go. Oh, hi. She comes and say hi. Hi guys. You say hi. This is Michelle. Hi. Nice and beautiful. How are you? You gotta go say hi. How are you? I'm Craig. Oh, what a young lady. Hi, Georgia. I'm Michelle. How are you, sweetie? Good. How are you? Good. Come on over here. Here you can, I know you're big, but you can sit here so that we can see you in the camera. Sit in the big seat. Yes. What grade are you in? Fifth. Fifth. That's a serious grade. Are you going into fifth or did you finish fifth grade? Finish. So you're a sixth grader. Yeah. All right. Big girl. All right. Sweetheart. And Magee, how about you? What grade are you going in? I'm going to second grade. So, wow. Wow. Nice, nice, nice. Well, it has been really fun to have your dad on our podcast. He's kind of a cool guy. You think, well, what do you think of your dad? He's a cool guy. You're good. Oh, you think. He's cool. I think cool guy. Cool guy, cool guy. And this is my brother. So one of the things your dad told us that he wants to make sure you guys always know is that you guys have each other forever. And sometimes you may fight. And as the big sister, sometimes she may get on your nerves and your big sister may act like she knows everything. And that's annoying. But in the end, you guys really do just have each other. I have two girls too. And they used to fight when they were your age. But guess what? They're best friends now. See? They live together. And so that can happen. That's the coolest. May not be something you can even envision right now. But but staying close and taking care of each other as sisters, that's important. Yes, it is. Because then you can be like me and my brother, that we love each other so much, we can do a whole show together. We can work together. See? How about that? Yeah. How many episodes now? 20 episodes. You see that? They've done 20 shows already. And you're the first kids we've had on. We've had on. Woo-hoo. Go find your mommy. All right. All right, you guys. I love you both. It was great to meet you. Nice to meet you. All right. See you. Bye. But we'll see you out there. All right. Wow, they're gorgeous. Thank you for indulging them. Oh my gosh. And my babies. They're the first kids on our show. Our kids haven't even been on the show. They won't. They see that's what happens. Our kids won't. They won't. They'll be like, oh good. Maybe you'll be. You'll get rid of us. Stop talking about us. I love it. Well, yeah, no wonder you're putty. Yeah. You don't have a chance. Nope. You're done. Shining up these knuckles. Yeah. You don't have to get the uncles ready. Yeah, 100%. They on that. They be like, yeah, maybe when you let me know. Well, Keenan, it has been just a delight to spend time with you. Well, it done. Come to the venue. Yeah, I'll come with you. OK. All right. But so proud of the man you are. Thank you. Not just your accomplishments, but you are a good man. I tried, man. Kind man. Thank you. You were clearly brought up with your manners. Yes, I was. I got my manners right in my pocket. You got your manners. All day long. Yeah. Well, thank you. It has been a pleasure. Appreciate it. Thank you. A pleasure. It's such a pleasure. We'll do part two soon. We will do part two. Oh, what am I going to wear for part two? Oh.