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Bo Jackson On Being The Greatest Athlete Of All Time + His Prostate Cancer Story | Bussin'

44 min
Apr 2, 2026about 2 months ago
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Summary

Bo Jackson discusses his prostate cancer diagnosis and removal in October, using his platform to promote men's health awareness through a new podcast called 'Bo Knows Men's Health.' He shares personal health stories, athletic achievements including his legendary 4.13 40-yard dash, and emphasizes the importance of preventive health screenings for men.

Insights
  • Men avoid discussing health issues due to cultural stigma around masculinity, unlike women who openly discuss health concerns with peers
  • Early detection and proactive treatment of prostate cancer significantly improves outcomes compared to delayed intervention
  • High-profile athletes leveraging their platform for health advocacy can normalize conversations around previously taboo medical topics
  • Dual-sport excellence at elite levels requires exceptional mental discipline and competitive drive, not just physical ability
  • Preventive health screenings should begin earlier for individuals with family history of cancer, regardless of age guidelines
Trends
Celebrity-led health advocacy podcasts emerging as trusted sources for preventive care educationIncreasing prostate cancer diagnoses in men under 40, shifting recommended screening age downwardMen's health destigmatization through peer-to-peer conversations and influencer transparencyIntegration of medical professionals into entertainment/sports content for credibility and educationShift from individual achievement narratives to legacy-building through health and family-focused messagingDecline of dual-sport professional athletes due to specialization requirements in modern sportsCommunity-based health screening models with affordable access replacing traditional healthcare barriers
Topics
Prostate Cancer Screening and Early DetectionMen's Health Stigma and Cultural BarriersPreventive Healthcare and PSA TestingColonoscopy and Colon Cancer PreventionAthletic Performance and Mental DisciplineDual-Sport Professional Athletes40-Yard Dash Performance MetricsFamily History and Genetic Cancer RiskHealth Podcast Development and MonetizationMasculinity and Vulnerability in Sports CulturePost-Athletic Career Purpose and LegacyHealthcare Access and AffordabilityCompetitive Mindset in SportsMedical Advocacy Through Celebrity PlatformAging Athletes and Physical Decline
Companies
Auburn University
Bo Jackson's college where he played football and ran track, setting the 4.13 40-yard dash record
University of Alabama
Recruited Bo Jackson but he chose Auburn instead after defensive coordinator Ken Donahue's visit
Los Angeles Raiders
NFL team where Bo Jackson played, featured in Monday night game against Seattle Seahawks
Seattle Seahawks
Opponent in famous November 30, 1987 Monday night game where Bo Jackson had dominant performance
Men's Health Magazine
Partner for Bo Jackson's new podcast 'Bo Knows Men's Health' focused on men's preventive health
People
Bo Jackson
Guest discussing prostate cancer diagnosis, athletic achievements, and launching health advocacy podcast
Deion Sanders
Compared to Bo Jackson as greatest athlete of all time; also dual-sport professional with health issues
Ken Donahue
Recruited Bo Jackson to Alabama; told him Auburn would never beat Alabama
Terry Robiskey
Coordinated famous 90+ yard run play against Seattle Seahawks on Bo Jackson's birthday
Harvey Glantz
Olympic gold medalist sprinter at Auburn who Bo Jackson tried to catch during track practice
Brian Bosworth
NFL player known for persona and trash talk, faced off against Bo Jackson in Monday night game
Chadwick Boseman
Black Panther actor who died at 43 from colon cancer, referenced as cautionary health story
Aaron Judge
MLB player whose record-breaking home run is Bo Jackson's grandson's favorite sports highlight
Troy Aikman
Dallas Cowboys quarterback; last Super Bowl Bo Jackson attended was when Cowboys won with Aikman
John L. Williams
Seahawks player whose backup fullback Tommy A.G. blocked for Bo Jackson at Auburn
Quotes
"I was put on this earth to share messages like this. Period. It's not about the fame I'm over that."
Bo JacksonMid-episode
"We don't talk about it because we don't want our buddies or the public to look at us as not being strong. That's not the case."
Bo JacksonHealth discussion segment
"If you have a favorite grandchild... I would give my life if I can hug and kiss my mom again."
Bo JacksonFinal segment
"My mental aspect of the game was when I stepped across that white line... in my mind I'm the baddest motherfucker on the planet."
Bo JacksonAthletic mindset discussion
"Auburn hasn't beat Alabama since 1972... and they never will. I shook his hand but I'm saying to myself you got to be a fucking fool."
Bo JacksonAlabama recruitment story
Full Transcript
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This is a fun episode, Bo Jackson, one of the baddest men, one of the baddest athletes to ever step into an arena. We get to talk to him now in some of his later years. We talk about the colon, we talk about old war stories back in the day. Do we sit down with Bo Jackson? My younger self who used to just watch this dude and hear stories from my dad and all the generation before us. Him being arguably the greatest athlete of all time and usually the debate is between him and Dion Sanders. And it's Bo Jackson. This is a bonus episode by Bustin' with the Boys that I hope you enjoy. It's a fun little episode, enjoy it, sit back, relax and make sure you're subscribed, you're dropping comments, you're having fun with the chat. Have a great day, have a great weekend and this interview is also brought to us by the one and only Bud Light. Easy to drink, easy to enjoy. Bud Light has always proved the four simple ingredients for a clean crisp taste. Anything for a clean crisp taste of Bud Light, Bud Light is the official beer sponsor of the NFL, the NFL Draft, UFC that is now on Paramount Plus. Bud Light partners include the Boys, George Kittle, Peyton Manning, Dustin Poirier, Bruce Buffer, who's the voice of the UFC, Shane Gillis, Post Malone, stock up now on Bud Light, head to www.budlight.com slash locator to find a store near you. Easy to drink, easy to enjoy. Now enjoy this bonus episode with the one and only Bo Jackson. Another episode of Bustin' with the Boys, we have a legend. Some worlds arguably it's a debate in our world. It's not a debate, the greatest athlete of all time. Bo Jackson, Bo Jackson on Bustin' with the Boys. Hello, hello, hello. This camera guy didn't clap, it's okay though. He didn't, he did not. He's like, I'm not, I'm just giving him a hard time. Hey, you sound like you've been through the ringer a little bit. You walked in here, you're like, man. Second day? Non-stop. Non-stop all day. Balls to the wall. What has been on your schedule the last two days and if you don't mind? What has been on my schedule? If you look at my hat, that BK. Yeah, Burger King. That, hell no. Wouldn't eat it if you paid me. This is Bo Knows Men's Health. You're starting your own podcast? Yeah, I'm starting my own podcast. And 90% of the country would say, oh, it's going to be another sports podcast. Nah, been there, done that, know how to do that. This is on Men's Health for a simple reason. And I say this, you guys are young, but I'll give you four or five years from now. You're going to be going to get your prostate check and doing all this and so forth and so on and get to the point to where you're up three, four times a night going to take a leak. That's what happens when you get old. Yeah. So that's what you got for it. That's what you got to look forward to. Me, myself, I want to use my platform, my name, my recognition to promote Bo Knows Men's Health. Because what we do as men, well, I'm going to ask you this question and this is for both of you. What's the first thing coming to your mind if your doctor come out and told you you got prostate cancer? How much time do I have left? Yeah, probably. Or he says that you're in the beginning stages of prostate cancer. It's not bad, but you have to have your prostate cancer. You have to have your prostate taken out and then you research it and look at everything. How did I do it? And the thing that you do, well, probably genetics because you go back and look at your great-grandfather, your grandfather, your dad, your uncles, find out that, find out like that. But the thing about it, most men think, show you how small our minds are as men because we're all like this. We all have this fault. Is that the doctor come and tell you, you're in the beginning stages of prostate cancer. You can either treat it or take it out. Most guys without thinking is going to say let's try to treat it because if you know what your prostate do, it controls everything that you do as far as sex, everything, sperm produced, all of that, erections and so forth and so on. So we're going to think, oh, shit, that goes my sex life. That goes my sex life. I'll be on ED drugs for the rest of my life. That's how the small part of our mind thinks. And so instead of thinking like this, I need to get that taken out so I can spend time with my family, with my kids. I want to be around so I can hear the word papa. I want to go to papa's house. I want to take some fishing and so forth and so on. Well, I'm at that stage. And not only that, colon cancer, prostate cancer runs in my family. So I was going to get it regardless of how many football, football games I played, how many touchdowns, how many homeruns I hit. Period. But we as men, we never talk about that. Wasn't the last time you sit around with your guys after either hunting or fishing or golf and then say, man, you know, last night, shit, I was up four or five times, because my prostate won't let me sleep. We don't talk about that. Or if you did it, we're sitting here laughing, joking. Absolutely, because you don't take it serious. But if you're serious about it, and so we don't talk about it because we don't want our buddies or the public to lick at us as not being strong. Or we got a cheek in our arm and we're not that alpha male that everybody perceives me as. Because we're weak. That's not the case. If you ask your girlfriends, your wives, your moms, aunts, they go to lunch or to wine and dip and talk about all their issues. They talk about breast cancer. They talk about incontinence. They talk about menopause. They talk about everything. But we as men, we don't talk about that. Because it's taboo. I want to use my platform to peel the layers off of that onion. So we can talk about it. I want to set up my podcast to where I can take it on the road and travel and go into different cities. Get one of my buddies that I played with or played against either in the NFL or the Major League Baseball. Have them to get his personal doctors. Get your cardiologists, your gastroenterologists, get your orthopedic surgery. Get all your doctors, your urologists, proctologists, sitting on the stage with you and tell them, look, we're going to have you here to talk to this crowd of men, to talk to this big audience. And what we want from you, we will advertise you and your business and your clinic or your hospital. But what you got to give us is that you got to help take care of these gentlemen out here who can't afford to pay for a PSA test because somebody may not have the insurance that we have. We got to get the audience to attend and if they attend, it'll cost them from anywhere from one to ten bucks. No more than that. We got to get the audience to pay for their PSA and a fund for that area to help pay for their PSA, to help pay for their colonoscopies and make it easier for guys to sit around and talk. Instead of just talking about the football game and talk about this, let's take a page from the women's book, their playbook. Let's sit down and go to dinner and talk about our problem. How many times do you watch TV or you're on your computer and an ED commercial comes up? Damn you, every time you turn it on, right? Yeah. But we don't talk about that. I had my prostate taken up in October. This past October? This past October I had my prostate taken up. I never for once set up and said, oh, nope, I don't want to do it. I'm just going to ruin my sex life. It's going to do this or do that. The first thing I thought about was my family. Wife, kids, why should I be selfish and cheat them out of the future? I said, get that taken out. Get it out of me so I won't be looking over my shoulder. Because if you decide to treat it with radiation, there's a 99% chance it's going to come back. It may not come back within one or two years, but five, six years down the road, it's going to re-it's head again. And when it does, it's going to have gone from your prostate to your bones. Your bones to your lungs or liver, then to your brain. And so I buried my brother in law just two weeks ago because it happened in that order. Really? It's interesting about prostate as well too because it seemed like it was like minute over 40, right? That's when you get your prostate examined. They get the two fingers up there and they do the things. Two fingers, get the PSA test done where they draw blood. And that's a real way to check your PSA. Go get the blood work done, they send it off. And then they combine your numbers from your PSA test with what they call your Gleason score. Okay. Now I don't know what to tell the Gleason score because I'm not a doctor. Totally fair. But it combines both of them. And if it's in the high six or seven or above, you need to get something done. Get something figured out. It's so interesting because the prostate is being like, he's 36, I'm 34. And they're like, it's 40, right? Is that when they say you should get your prostate checked? But they say 40. But if it runs in your family, you probably need to get it checked. Bed 440. Just to be on the safe side. That's the thing that's going on right now is it seems like rates in younger men are having prostate issues sooner at the age of 40. And so we sit here and we hear the number of 40, 40, 40 kind of wait until then. And then there's the guy that I put with in high school and in college and he was the healthiest one of all of us. He passed away a couple of years ago because of prostate cancer. That's what I'm saying. Same age as me. So he's like what, 32 at the time? Check out this. When I was 20 years old, I'm in the prime of my life. I could whip King Kong's ass. Buddy, I was watching film before you walked in. You were correct. And the thing about it, I woke up one morning, went to the bathroom, used the bathroom, getting ready for class. This is on a Friday. We had a game on Saturday. I get up, go to the bathroom, get up to flush the toilet with blood in the stool. Oh shit, scared the hell out of me. Go tell the trainer, tell the head trainer he's all right. Well, I'm going to call the doctor. We're going to set up something. And you all right now, we're going to play the game tomorrow. After the game tomorrow, but I'm going to give you this packet. This is mad. It's not what you'd mix it with. A gallon of water and drink it. And drink it all. Give me two gallons. You can't have anything to eat after noon. So from noon on, I'd start myself and drink this crappy stuff. And it flushed me out. Blew the toilet up from four o'clock that evening until the next morning when I went to the doctor. Yeah. I got clear liquid coming out of it. Go did it and they do my first colonoscopy. They find a polyp that was benign. And if you know the story behind Chad with Bozeman, the Black Panther actor, he passed away at forty-three. He passed away at forty-three. He passed away at forty-three. From colon cancer. Nobody knew. He kept us secret but he passed away from colon cancer. So if I had ignored like we all do as young young guys who think we are invincible. We know everything. If I just said, oh, that's probably nothing so I'm not going to bother. I wouldn't be here right now. And since then, I guarantee to you that I've had at least fifteen colonoscopy. I just had one last month. And I get one now because I'm sixty-three. I get one every three years. Really? Because in ten years, you can grow a camel open side of you and don't even know it. And don't even know. And so that's why I'm using my that's why I'm using my platform to help educate men because we do it. And educate each other because they sit down and talk about it. We don't do that because we're too narrow-minded and we're thinking oh, I don't want somebody talking about me or laughing at me. I want friends talking about me or oh, I can't get it up. Trust me guys. I'm talking from proof. I've been down that road. Because the first thing guys think is that there goes my sex life. I don't know what to start on anymore. They got shit out there now that'll make Vigra look like a chump. But and the thing about it and I say that in a laughing matter but that shouldn't be the first thing you think about. Or the second or third. It should be for me, I have a four-year-old grandson and a two-year-old grandson and it's the best gift God has ever given me. And I want to be around and watch them play and they're soccer. They're Taekwondo classes. That's what I want to be around for. My grandson just hit me on picture yesterday he got an acceptance letter. Now he's four. He got an acceptance letter to go to kindergarten at the big school where all the big kids go. And he's happy like he just got a full ride at Harvard or somewhere. But that's what makes me happy now. Sports, I have an attendant football game or Super Bowl since Troy Aikman and the Dallas Cowboys won their second Super Bowl with Troy Aikman. And the only reason I'm here is to get this out to the public. Because I figured hey, there's no better time than to do this now. Because it's a Super Bowl everybody watch it but hell 90% of the viewers are men. And this is a good time to let the country know that hey, it's okay to talk about this. Don't sit up and keep it balled up inside. Because as they say pressure will bust a pipe. If enough pressure builds up, it'll bust a pipe. And for me I don't think I was put on this earth to be one of the greatest football players or baseball players. I was put on this earth to share messages like this. Period. It's not about the fame I'm over that. This is the first this is the first public thing that I've done since I got a professional sports. And to come out and let people know something personal like that just about me that should tell you hey, if this guy can do this and we seldom see him or hear him it should be easy for everybody else to say hey I'm having prostate issues. I'm having colon issues. I'm having I feel a lump in my chest. We don't call it breast but men have breast cancer. Period. Men have breast cancer. And I didn't know that until a couple years ago. But to let guys know hey there's an avenue for you to sit and talk about it. This isn't conversation for just you and your doctor. This is for you to spread with your friends. When I find out about my prostate I call all my buddies from high school college everybody on the baseball team we got on a zoom call and half of my teammates already having prostate prostate issues or I've had their prostate removed but nobody knew. Talked to my teammates from the pros from baseball and football told them the same thing. Because it needs to be known. I think it's powerful too because again it's like Bo Jackson everybody who has this idea of Bo Jackson do you ever I assume you do because you talked about being over fame it's got to just be exhausting knowing that everything that you've done on both the diamond and the football field that's what people always want to talk to you about. I hope now when people want to talk they want to talk about these issues. Do you ever enjoy reliving or talking about old old memories and everything that you accomplish on the on the field? Only when people ask me about them in fireside chats so forth and so on. Now on my grandson I talk to him about it and they make me watch my highlights which I hate because I've seen them a hundred zillion times they want to watch them over and over they don't want to watch them one time. My grandson's can mimic me in all my highlights. They get the ball they break the bat over the head throw out hand-wrapped relics and they imitate Harold sitting on the ground throwing his helmet they do all of that and they're two and four years old. Is there a highlight of theirs that is their favorite? Believe it or not it's not of me. Really? Guess who it is though? It's Aaron Judge when he hit his record breaking home run and he went around the bases he's waving and he went to the fence and waved to his family in his dance my grandson can mimic him to a tee he'll hit the ball first take out he's go around the base then he'll do that little Aaron Judge dance and he went home plate and he runs over to the wall to the curtain and he's waving to Aaron Judge's and he's waving to Aaron Judge's parents and he come back then he said pa pa I don't want them boys to pour water on my head because his teammates come out with the water and that's on him. He likes everything but the water poured on his head. Fair enough. So that's what I enjoy doing now Yeah and if I can reach out and touch one person I figured that I'd done my job but I plan on reaching out to me I plan on touching millions because we all need this. Absolutely One store, one store, one tale, lore it's rumored it's out it's people talk about it like you're you know you're in the Old Testament times and you just gotta gather around and you listen to Grandpa tell a story about one time a Bo Jackson ran a what was it a 4.140 4.140 and that's true. True as we're saying ran the 4.13 ran out of the stadium a combined at the time but the combines back then was where the people at the combined they would come to your college and invite all the colleges the athletes from 100, 200 miles away we had it at Auburn because that year I was going to be first round draft pick and I didn't go to some big combine at at the Superdome or wherever because if you're the first round draft pick, if you know you're going to be number one you don't have to go to come by so and I was on the track team I was on my way to track practice and my job in track my track coach said if you can catch Harvey Glantz you don't have to track practice Harvey Glantz want the gold medal he was the fastest man in the world Auburn graduate in 1976 so it's 82 so he's at least 9, 10 years older than me and I never caught him coach said if you catch Harvey you don't have to track practice and I chased him every day couldn't catch him so it was like an 18 wheeler chasing a Ferrari and I never caught his ass but I was on my way to track practice and everybody had to come by and sit up in our indoor practice facility it was about 60 yards long and they had to sit up with electronic tape on the ground a laser light down at the end but they only had one and I was on the track and they had a light down at the end but they only had about from here to the wall in that room stopping this so they told me to run and my coach said both please come in and run for these guys they are here because they want to get your 40 all these other kids are here because they're trying to make it to where you are just come running to 40 because I'm tired of these people calling my fucking phone you was just over the top nonsense so you're hanging out, you're at track practice but I'm on my way to track practice so I had to pass the facility where they were getting ready to sit up for me so I said alright I went in and I saw where they were and I got down and took off and I stayed from here to the finish line which is to the wall I let up, cruise through ran a 426 and the guys throw the thing and said he slowed up 5 yards from the thing so the coach said both please run through the fucking tape so I can get these guys out of my head because I don't want them calling my phone they pissing my wife off they waking up all the time at night 6 in the morning because they trying to wonder where the fuck you are please do it for me if you love me run the fucking 40 and run through the tape I said I'm not going to run I said because if I try to stop I'm going to tear something up he said well we are opening the fucking door and that door had been open since I've been at Auburn that door and they cleared all the crap back and they opened that back door and I went and got down and I told my guy my teammate on the track who was a high jumper I said will you get my bag and just go and start walking towards the track because when I break this tape here and run this I'm going to keep going to the track and I got down and pow out the blocks and everybody everybody had stop watches and the electronic tape was by itself so everybody that had a stop watch had me under 4-1 some guys had had some guys had me at 3-9, 3-9-5 4 flat 4-1 in the tape set the laser line it was flashing 4-1-3 and I kept going so when did you find out that you ran a 4-1-3 because clearly they came up to the track they came up to the track practice and they said hey what do you think you ran what do you think you ran I said I don't know they said you ran a 4-1-3 I said alright they said alright they said you know if I ever run a 4-1-3 and you say it's alright and I said something to the fact look I got bigger fish and fry like trying to catch this motherfucker over here so I went to practice I'm trying to not do track practice all you're thinking about I'm trying to get out of track practice but that never happened but the 4-1-3 story is true is factual so when you see at the combine and for the longest time it was Chris Johnson it was 4-2-9 and then the cat that went to Cincinnati I'm forgetting his name he was John Ross yeah he broke that you're watching everybody argue on the NFL network about the fastest 40 time you're sitting there just with your grandkids like these guys don't even know well I'm sitting there saying well I didn't say it but the arrogant side of me the young side of me the 21 year old side of me would have said shit I'm still looking at the bottom of my cleats cause he's crossing fencing and I'm down now slowing down so I didn't cross that goes kinda hard that's what I would have said but no I tipped my hat to the young man for running a 4-2-6 a 4-2-6 I tipped my hat to him but I know what I did I wished somebody from that that was there at that combine that probably I was dead I wished that they would come out and say hey I was there when he ran the 4-1-3 yeah and no one ever came out and said anything I don't know who they are cause I didn't care cause I told that I had bigger fist of fire yeah you're probably the first man in history to be the number one overall pick and sit there and be like yeah I don't care about that I have to go to track practice I gotta go to track practice we were at radio road today and we were walking around doing a little we were here and there and I heard a story about you how when you were growing up you wanted to go to the university of Alabama and your visit to Alabama was why you went to Auburn the coach came to my house to visit with me and my mom and we were expecting coach Bryant to come up and he told me coach Bryant had a family he merged the head to go 10-2 so they sent the defense coordinator Ken Donahue and I just come in and I walk in and I come through the front door I walk in and I see my mom sitting at the dining table there's an old white guy I speak go downstairs and do my laundry get my baseball uniform out to wash it like we do cause I got a game the next day he said Vincent they called me Vincent Vincent my name is coach Ken Donahue I'm the defense coordinator at the university of Alabama first of all I want to apologize because coach Bryant couldn't make it cause he had a family emergency he had to go 10-2 he said but I want to tell you that we would love to have you in touch with Lucia we think you'll feel great we'll think you'll be successful but my honest opinion is that I don't think you'll get a chance to play until the end of your sophomore the beginning of your junior season and we know the only other place you want to go to that you are looking at is Auburn because you want to stay close to home so your family can come see you play then he said this young man let me tell you something about Auburn I said he said Auburn hasn't beat Alabama since 1972 this was 1982 and then he said and they never will so I shook his hand like because he said Vincent I'm going to go back upstairs and talk to your mother so he shook my hand and I'm smiling but I'm saying to myself you got to be a fucking fool if you think I'm going to come to your universe and ride the bench for two fucking years and not play he's still got to he's got a strong grip and as he's reliving it as he relives it he's getting tighter and tighter but that's what I'm saying to myself yeah and I remember his last words and they never will and they never will and my freshman year Auburn signed 11 running backs they signed the number one running back in the state and I wasn't and I think I think I was the fifth top running back that they claim I was but they let me in the game one time and I say this to all kids who is competing in sports you go out for a position somebody's in front of you you should have one goal on your mind is to take his job I don't care who he is it's to take his job and I told him you put me in the game I'm going to make it hard it's hell for you to ever want to take me out and that's what I live by and I got in the game this second possession first quarter against Wake Forest my freshman year I lit him up like a Christmas tree and I've been doing that but not seeing that from a bragging standpoint but I try to teach young kids to a day usually that one goal is to make it to the top and stay there I said my mental aspect of the game was when I stepped across that white line on the football field to go on the football field or step across that white line on the baseball field in my mind I'm the baddest mother fucker on the planet ain't no dog as bigger than me on the field or badder than me that's it that's the way I live my life in sports not saying it's about me but this dog is going to make it to where my all my teammates my other dog can run around the ballpark cause I'm going to make sure that I'm the baddest dog in the park kind of going right now how were you on the field internally as the baddest dog on the field were you sitting there and just kind of quiet keep to yourself or you're a shit talker quiet before the storm quiet before the storm what about other dogs are barking when the others are let them bark because it's just bark a bark is never bark is never farmed by anybody my bite's bigger so you were on a phase where they should talk someone walked up to you about you a bitch you're not going to do anything today speak with my actions that's all kind of scared now we're sitting with both Jackson you can imagine that type of swagger confidence that this player would have especially when they're like a dual sport athlete like do we feel like there's ever going to be a dual sport athlete again like in your mind as you sit back and see guys specialize not for football baseball not for football baseball if you try to do both you're going to be mediocre in both you'll never be a star in both positions what made it to where you are pro bowler in an all star in both of those sports the heart fight the heart fight was it hard to juggle both no see here's the problem well let me just tell you something right now we brought bow back we hit to that mindset right now and now he's just thinking to himself I don't know I have my actions that are speaking right now we've lost him we've lost him to the darkness right now so we've lost him we um but I'll tell you one short then I'm going to let you fellas go I'm tired of this one um Monday night Monday night football can see out my college roommate who blocked for me for four years was back up full back to John L Williams for Seattle Tommy A.G and this the week that the Seattle fans made a big to do out of bow versus Bosworth Brian Bosworth bad as god in the NFL so calm bad as god in the NFL he had the Mohawk with the pink and red hair they had the tattoos and everything and he was jack and Bosworth got to be famous and I'll tell you that he was smart because that persona he put on made him a shit ton of money right the bad guy, the rebel I'm going to hit you even if you run out of bounds that's him take the 15 yard penalty but I'm going to teach you you can't run away from me and I like that in the whole week they talk I'm down in LA with the raiders they said, I don't have nothing to say now that week leading up to the game Wednesday before the game now I'm not exaggerating this and I'm not lying swear on my mother's grave the Thursday before that game on Monday night three things happened first thing happened was I told my wife she was pregnant with our second child and she didn't believe me and she got a pregnant test two days later and she was pregnant she said, how did you know that swear, no I'm serious and then I went back and said and just being arrogant because it's just me and her in the room I said that bo no shit I said it's true the first thing happened the second thing that happened that game was November 30th, 1987 my 26th birthday on that day the third thing that happened I celebrated my birthday me and my radar teammates by blowing the asshole out of the Seahawks oh, on them folding them up and putting them in our pockets but at the end of the game we have a saying what do you want to do with these guys by the end of the same we want to have their souls in our hands stuffing them in their pockets by the fourth quarter we want to kill the will kill their will to even play us they don't want to play us no more and the icing on the cake was when I trucked balls down on the goal line because they've been talking all day but it worked out good now the first play that I ran two series before I had the 90 something yard run we ran that play and I cut it back because I'm using all my peripheral vision I never looked here I'm looking here and I'm looking at this guy here but I'm looking this way so I see my, so I was notorious for cutting back and eating you up my offensive coordinator Terry Robiskey Terry Robiskey we call him Biscuit with Biscuit come on and say Bo he said we're going to run that play two series from now we're going to run that same fucking play keep it outside and I promise you you take it outside you're going to bust their ass wide open and it was back like on the seven yard line it wasn't except six yard line or something he said keep it outside and I did went to Tacoma as what the name said he's not going to stop until he get to Tacoma and they had to door open until they're going to state him that's the only way I stopped they had in the tunnel there was about 30, 40 yards I went three quarters of the way down that tunnel turned around and come back most of the defense all of the kicking game was in the tunnel clapping for me hugging me, cheering me on and so on and so on and then I think I caught a pass for touchdown and then the play I put the nail in the coffin that killed the spirits was when I trucked balls down on the three yard line he say anything to you after the game no but with me being young and but I lied this is a lie so I'm saying it to you right now but I wanted to say next time have a bus fare motherfucker but but I didn't that's just a trash side of me talking because as you know we talk trash the whole game we talk trash the whole game and but that night that week was probably the best week of my sports career because of the pregnancy of my wife, my birthday and all my family and friends back home got to see me work yeah well there's a relationship like with Terry Robeski in 2016 he was our office coordinator at the Titans and he was his personality is incredible he can sit there and tell stories but I just did a piece with him last year about his book oh really? at what age do you feel like you're uh you kind of do something outside whatever it is where you're like you just you have the conversation with yourself and you're like I don't got it anymore oh hell I said say that I said that when I left the toilet seat but all the but all the ability you had I woke up in the morning yes I was I'd have to say I sit up and think now and I say to myself you were the shit at one time and you woke up this morning and you felt like you got run over by a herd of cattle and I have a door and I asked my wife did you beat me with a sledgehammer last night while I was asleep arms hurt my elbow can't sleep because this shoulder hurt got an artificial shoulder here artificial hip prostate surgery colonoscopy I'm a mess I'm a mess I know we had two I got one more question I want to hit you with a Bud Light question what do you say to people when everyone's arguing about the greatest athlete of all time like your name and Dion Sanders name comes up quite a bit what do you think when people are arguing for Dion Sanders knowing the mindset you have I know you're not going to say it publicly but what do you think everybody have their own opinion I would never say I'm the better athlete because that's not my mentality I'm going to always compliment somebody else period Dion Sanders was great at what he did he's in the hall of fame I love him for that we are friends and I'm quite sure I'm going to go to Colorado and get him on my podcast because with him having this bladder cancer and prostate we'll have an award winning podcast hell yeah the two greatest to do it playing both baseball and football you guys having a conversation with all the health stuff going on absolutely so that's where I am and I say this I was good for the sports when I play but those sports was great for Bo Jackson it's allowed me to be here with you all it's allowed me to provide for my family it's allowed me to do things for the public that nobody knows about I can go do things in the shadows and put some sunshine in somebody's life and leave and nobody know the difference I can go do things in the shadows and nobody know the difference and I love that I love that part of me I love being private I don't have to be out there look at me, hey this is me I hate that I've been living in my community in Illinois for almost 35 years and I drive my Dodge Dooley to the service station that's a mile up the street and I'm not shitting you somebody will walk up to me and say you like that fellow Bo Jackson then they say damn it you are what the hell are you doing in Illinois I live a mile down the road nobody knows it the people that see me often is my buddies that I hunt with fish with and the people down on the golf course that's awesome that's who see me the most we have a segment sponsored by Bud Light because people would do anything for an ice cold Bud Light but what is something Bo Jackson would do anything for what is something or someone that I do anything for something Bo Jackson would do anything for we're gonna put a wrinkle in it too can't say family alright I would do anything to keep no I can't say that because I'm starting to broadcast hahaha alright and it can't be anything with a family no no no well we can give you if you can't do anything we can give you family put it to you like this if you have a favorite grand child we won't take that I would I would give my life I would give my life if I can hug and kiss my mom again hmm period period it's a good one that's it thank you brother I appreciate it we really appreciate it thank you man thank you