On The Pulse: Wednesday, February 4th, 2026

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For journeying. For journeying, journeys, sojourneys, we're all journeys. Hope everybody's having a fabulous Wednesday. We have a fabulous show plan for you guys. We are two fabulous girls. So, it's a sort of baseline fabulousness. You're right. We've got great stories. We watched a ton of TV last night. We've got Tommy Lies recap. We both watched the season premiere of Summer House. So, we're just kind of like, I don't know, have our fingers on the pulse today. Some days we don't have our fingers on the pulse. Today we do. Yeah. I wonder what's preferred, you know? For the episodes where we're like on it or not on it. I think there's a nice mix. And I think that's what makes it so great. You think you know what to expect? Is this going to be a pulsy episode? We're on the pulse to a degree. We're like sort of pulsed Jason. But it's not like we're going to be all pulse all the time. No. You know who I feel like is all pulse all the time? Like the vial files. Oh, they are. Every TV show. They watch it early. Like they have the episode up at six in the morning. So, you're like, we are like, pulsed Jason. Yeah. We dabble with pulse. Yeah. We pulse here. We pulse there. We dabble with low pulse. Got it for bid. Heaven forbid low pulse. I have a runner's pulse. That's what Dr. Fox told me because my pulse is low. You know me, I don't get worked up. Could I feel your pulse? Yeah, do you know about pulse? In what sense? I know how to find the pulse. Okay, but like how would you know if it's slower fast? I don't know. And like your watch is kind of in the way. Give me your other hand. I'll take my watch off. Why don't you like give me your other hand crossing over? Okay. It's not like a good look for it. Never lacks. Yeah. I have to focus so hard. I'll die. I think I think it's feeling not here. I feel like it like throws up your balance. You're dead. That's what I'm saying. Great job over time. I can find this. That's what I'm saying. You guys literally feel nothing. You'll done. Even the wrong spot. Let me see if I can feel it. I show you where it is. Do you want to know what's not on the pulse? Is checking each other's pulse. It's like a silent podcast. We look for it. Is checking each other's pulses on the show. But yeah, no, why is it so hard? I literally find it. I thought I found mine here. I'm alive. That's good. I'm alive. I have a low pulse. Dr. Fox said, you know me. I don't breathe a lot. I take one big sigh like every five minutes. Yeah. I feel like I'm going to be able to do it. I'm going to be able to do it. I'm going to be able to do it. 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Then she told me what it was and thank God I wrote it down because I googled it and they said what I googled is a benign non-cancerist. My ultimatirate. My ultimatirate atypical Nevis. Okay, so I um and thank you it's benign non-cancerists. Like I just wish they had said that. Like I have a real problem with the delivery of the results. They said the keywords however they need they need you to have the wrap up those bills. Yeah they do still want me to come in of course like I just can't like I will I will but all I was looking for was benign non-cancerists and I didn't get that so I literally was sitting here after the show and I totally had forgotten because I'm just so afraid. She took the con front of a bunch of people she was like film me. I just feel like if I made it like so not a big deal like I wasn't gonna have cancer you know um like if I had to step out it's like well that's when you hear that you have cancer so it wouldn't happen like in a room full of heat. Yeah with all my co-workers and my peers because I am peerless I just feel like they weren't going to say malignant. It turns out they didn't say malignant but they didn't say benign either. So the results were questionable um they said aladin. They literally said aladin. They still said aladin. Quite literally. That's how confusing it was. So that's what I did yesterday um sort of like crazy times for me. Understood will we together yesterday? We got our nails done. See that I already chipped mine like seriously. Oh I'm happy to go back. Yeah which my color will do that. And then I watched a lot of TV for my job. Yeah me as well tell me lies summer house very exciting so many thoughts so many. When does the house with the river hills come out Thursdays which is not what's today it's Wednesdays. Oh Wednesday great and I feel like something else is coming out soon too. Um bravo we're just like in the universe. Um bravo maybe it's the new bravo adjacent show for the old rony women has a name they're calling it the golden life. I guess it's been on like how they're in their golden years they're the golden girls like older women living their best life. Um and I feel like they're really close it also does say it's a working title. So it's subject to change it's called the golden the golden girl like the golden life the golden life parentheses working title. So I think they're really close to the title. I hope they continue to work it because I like the concept of like they're in the golden state. It had living their golden years and I'm sure like golden girls is like trademarked. They're almost there. The golden life isn't working for me. The golden state is California but it's like the sun's time state my bad my bad which is golden. I do like the word golden. I think there's a lot there to work with when I first heard golden life I was like huh and then I was like oh yeah golden years um you know golden and low. Uh I think there's a lot of potential. They put out a video of like all the housewives announcing the sex with these ladies like it was so turned in the way. Golden girls like it was so ronio. It was giving like made on like Instagram layout. It was hysterical and if that's a taste of what we can get it's mighty tasty. I just know I just know during this not well. Look it's killing her. I haven't thought about her one time. I wonder if she's not an OG. No of course not but I loop her in with that group of like elderly women who drink a lot who ruined the franchise. I do want with their drinking. Right I do wonder if this puts them in a bad spot with Bravo like no while the women have not been on Bravo in many years. They're still on Watchreff and Five. They go to Bravo Con. They're part of the Bravo family. They get like weird spin-off opportunities um E is the sister of Bravo. I know they it's a sisterhood and Bravo is all about the the peacock. This is just the first time where like Bravo people have collectively jumped chip. Ish. But it's ish and I'm sure Bravo had first right of their fuse on. Yeah. Didn't want to show and they went to E and again it's all under the NBC universe on Brella and NBC's gonna be like you better get if this show is a success they're gonna say bring them to Bravo or like or peacock yeah. It's a feather in everyone's cap. Yeah. I think it's all good. Okay um so we kind of look a lot to do just because we are so pulsing today. Yes. So there's nothing else. I just like can't remember a thing that I did yesterday. Oh you know my TikTok has taken me to the Epstein files and I would like to be away from it. It's very upsetting um and also like it's kind of confusing because it's like the files but it's also like anonymous tips that people have submitted so it's like not all 100% but I've just like ended up like reading some really upsetting things about like these like women who were forced to have babies like I was I saw something about babies. It was very very upsetting. Yeah. And it's kind of ruined my morning. I was like scrolling TikTok while I was doing my hair and then like these people like explaining to me what they found um and I just like it was very upsetting. Yeah. When and I was in it for like the celebrity and like the only person who's so far as name I heard and there are three million documents like it will be there are thousands of names but like Dr. Peter Atia who I didn't even know but apparently he's like a big podcaster. He's a bald one. Yes you know him. Oh yeah. He's always giving me tips. Oh my God. Okay. And what's salt to you. So he was a big customer of Jeffrey Epstein like his emails are so bad. Oh my God. And there's a thing in his book where he talks about this traumatic life event um where his like young child ended up in the ICU and he's telling the story it all happened on July 11th and he's telling the story in his book about like the day he wasn't home. He was in New York and his son was in the ICU in San Diego and then like the emails from the Epstein files like prove that he was like hanging out with Jeffrey Epstein on July 11th like he said in his book that he didn't go home because of work when his son was in the ICU when it turns out he didn't go home because he was like hanging out with Jeffrey Epstein. Wow. Yeah. No it's really crazy. So so far he's like the first like big like name who we'd never heard of we were like all these celebrities are going to be in the files like I want to hear more celebrities but first it's Dr. Peter Atea which is like so random. I don't even know. I actually don't know him. He's not the salt guy. Okay. Okay. The salt guy I had to find his name. He went on Matt and Abby one time so his name not has nothing to do with the definition but his doctor Amen. You know him. He's another bald doctor who podcasts longevity doctor is that like that's what Dr. Peter Atea is. I'm like learning much about the special night. Amen. You but apparently like he's like a huge room in type people are obsessed with him. It's like devastating for his community. You know this man. No. I don't know that man. He's everywhere. I don't know that man. I'm sorry. Sorry to this man. You don't know him. If you saw him like talking into the psychrifier stepfather from he got a Cyrus. Cyrus from if you saw him talking to a microphone maybe you would bring a bell. Everyone is him. I must admit that episode of man Abby. We should have him on. You never know. I don't want to have people on you. Never know they might end up in the Epstein files. That's so true. Oh and there was also an Epstein file where they're talking about Maddie Ziegler. Just like no not guilty. Maddie Ziegler is not a part of it. They were just like did you see that music video? Like yucky. Like really? And then they also talk about like these people are so dumb by the way. Like they literally like hey want to be a pedophile? Like they don't care. But they do attempt in some parts to speak in a foreign language and they use food being like hey I'd like a pizza. They said pizza hot dog burger and this guy. I think it was Dr. Peter T. I was like I'd like a hot dog with no bun. Like yucky yucky yucky. I'm very new to and also like it's hard to I think to discern from the files like what is just like was a submitted tip from the public and what is like a verified claim. So you do have to be careful. So like I'm just looking at actual emails like on TikTok by the way I'm not like reading the files. Um and this one particular girl who like ended up in a treatment center and she was like forced to have babies and she was like a lanes girl like oh my god fucking a lane like I forgot about the Epstein saga you know it was like so many years ago but it's really upsetting like it's not fun. I'm not having fun. That's really upsetting. I feel like I was like oh yeah let's get them and now it's like I'm upset. Yeah. Like I was just in it for the celebrity and like all I got was Peter T. So far like. So far. I didn't even know him. Yeah but there's well be more but it's also confusing. There are so many names of people like someone's own name and they keep saying like it doesn't mean inclusion does not indicate involvement like they keep saying that's similar. Like anybody who's ever had a picture. Cal Radswell like her pictures with Galein like that doesn't mean she was going to the island. Um so like I think you have to be it's not fair. Because someone's named it doesn't mean no like like. Like Maddie Zidler is not involved. Right but like Yucky. Yuck well thanks. Yeah sorry my morning was ruined so I just felt like I had to ruin everyone else's. Okay that's really mature. Yeah that's a mature way to feel. I'm a very mature woman so that makes sense. Um shall we get into the stories? Yes. Where we do have our pulse on the pulse though it's a little pulse around her's pulse. The pulse that would be okay. I'm not sure if I can find it but my pulse on these stories is not questionable because I know everything. Without further I do that do that do that do here are the fast-difestories that you need to know. And the fast-difestories that you need to know are brought to you by the container store. If you're home or your schedule feels a little chaotic lately go to the container store it will make you feel better. There is help out there. 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know I don't get the connection well now I feel like and this was I think a theory at first like was this random or is it because her you know daughter is very famous and so I feel like sending it to TMZ sort of a confirmation that this person targeted Savannah Guthrie's mother not just like an old old woman you know it's giving like I know you have a wealthy daughter let me see what I can squeeze out of you I'm really worried about her medication yeah like it seems like when someone is being held for ransom like they're not trying to hurt the person per se it's not like you know they want to kill them they just want money so they're holding them hostage if you will but the home medication throws like a kind of complicated spin on it and I could see this person like panicking like dropping them off at a hospital you know yeah like they didn't set out to kill this woman but she's an elderly woman who needs her medication perhaps they say she needs it every 24 hours and I doubt they said on their way out do you have any medication I think she also disconnects from her pacemaker oh no why would the pacemaker do you need to be near like a I don't know how it works but like they it stopped tracking her at a certain time so oh shit yeah maybe it just like didn't connect to like the apple watcher like if she didn't have it on her but there's a like a monitor that comes with it but maybe but she's still wearing it I don't know that's so scary that's what I had heard what it's just horrifying story like continues to get worse yeah and as which we know with all abductions the more time that passes without any sort of lead but I I feel hopeful that they have leads that they're not sharing I don't know why I feel that way but I feel like they're playing very close to the right because the person's watching the news and I feel like sometimes when they have no leads like they're like anyone please send us anything you have remember like with the the brown university shooter and everyone sending their like ring cameras yeah right they didn't really have anything right you get an influx of information which also can be like distracted yeah I think they want information but I feel like they have some stuff I got I hope so that's literally just a feeling this a vibe just yeah I don't know it's really sad oh my god it's so terrible it's so terrible I think you've heard her siblings were seen like leaving the area and it's just a nightmare it's a nightmare a living nightmare um we'll keep you posted and hopefully we have better news more updates they're really having been yeah but I don't know the TMZ thing is making me like suspicious obviously suspicious situation but you don't I mean you know what I mean yeah our next story is a story for Claudia um that wait you you've seen it I you knew it was happening but for me it's for you because Travis Kelschoke set Taylor Swift is gonna kill him over this fumble so Travis was recording his podcast new heights with his brother Jayce face and um Travis and Jayce's you know them like that I didn't realize you knew them like that yeah you know I like make me yeah I like Jayce's I like Jayce's and as they're recording he's like tipping the seat backwards and it made a loud crack yeah he broke the chair he broke the chair in Taylor's house he said Taylor's gonna kill me Jason was like oh shit are you all right and Jayce was like we're good I told you guys like her aesthetic and his physical build like it's a mismatch and I'm glad that she's decided to redesign we know her um Rhode Island mansion I hope some permits have been taken out in all of her homes like this is not like restructure the foundation this is not an ordinary man and also I get the vibe that like just based on his reaction that like this is not the first time it's happened because he's like oh Taylor's gonna kill me like oh Travis breaking chairs again it's a serious issue when I try to warn them about it like a year ago well I feel like she definitely has all this like antique dolphin nature right and it's like you don't need to swap it all out at first like let's break it I don't know Travis like doesn't want to feel like a stranger in his own home he should be able to sit in any chair yes but like what do you're gonna get rid of them sort of prematurely let's live in them like and when they break will get new I just don't know why we have to wait for something bad to happen like Travis could get hurt first of all he's a professional athlete you know how they say like professional athlete should not be doing like snowboarding or skateboarding in the off season because it could create an injury that affects them during the season it's kind of if he's still gonna continue to play like living in her like sort of antique home is a career hazard for him and I do think that they need to go to rain more and fly again also he doesn't seem bashful in any way but I have to imagine that breaking a chair is the most humiliating experience an individual can have it's now she's getting into my clan's casino the scene in show how where he goes to complain and he like can't understand why when a peltro has broken this like steel chair um yeah I'm trying to think of a chair as it is as a person who's always struggled with my weight I have to tell you and I think every person who's ever like felt uncomfortable in their body will tell you like it is something we're constantly thinking however for Travis like I don't think he's uncomfortable on his body like I don't think any part of him would be a shame no it's probably like a flex a point of pride it's too big for the chair yeah me and my big shoulders yeah a thousand percent but maybe I think you're never finding me no no I am I need to like buy a spell from a witch on Etsy like keep broken furniture away from me I don't know if there is a more horrifying thing that could happen to you in public I'm trying to think I feel like it's happened to Ben and it's obviously different for boys and girls for sure and Ben is not like an easily embarrassed no but like in my line of work I find that I'm always like being put in directors chairs which just don't give me a lot of confidence because they're made with like a thin piece of fabric and like two wood parcels if you broke that you're human yes of course but anytime I go to an event it's like I would like a speaking gig or whatever in there like have you on a directors chair I think I almost always am like do we have other chairs no and they're not it's not a flattering chair I just don't like it you can't really cross your legs so great because you don't have like the support right before shorties yeah um so just Travis out here living every girls nightmare mm-hmm and I'm sorry that that happened to you yeah but I hope that you guys get like new pargy furniture maybe a little restoration hardware and maybe you and Taylor can use this as an opportunity to watch all of how because I think you guys would like it and redecreate of course in a way that speaks to both of your sensibilities and size yeah there is a happy way size and sensibility they need to have a big and tall furniture store yeah well you could I'm sure there's beautiful things of course restoration hardware is the solution that they're looking for everything from restoration hardware cloud couch travey would love it I don't know what I've heard about the cloud couch and when I go to people's houses I'm like oh you paid $20,000 for this couch it gets so lumpy and like it's meant to be relaxed but it's very quickly because it doesn't present nicely like when you it's hard to set the room with the cloud couch because it always looks unmade right so if you also have like an enormous man lounging on the couch there quite a bit and his friends and his big friends like and just like leaving you know Tushy imprints yeah you're like a better term yeah you're gonna be fluffing those pillows those cushions all day long nobody wants that job yeah the cloud couch is a mirage and I think wealthy people tried to convince us that it was cool and I'm glad that I never felt victim to the cloud couch I feel like there's a time in place for it okay in a media room oh like in a theater room yeah in a theater room that doesn't get used a lot yeah but I also feel like if I look at your house and you have a cloud couch I can tell based on the state of your couch how much time you spend laying on the couch and then it's like not only do I have a messy couch I also like know people like I people know I lay lay around a lot well I feel like when you're like in your 20s and like you have an apartment like if you had a cloud couch that was such a slay it was and I feel like you don't spend that much time like on your couch and it's just like you're one or two people it's like you're pre-gain on the whole family like I feel like that's nice like if you're getting a cloud couch and you're like young adult apartment slay all day but if you're a young adult with a cloud couch like your parents obviously bought it for you and then I just think you're like a spoiled brat oh well maybe a dupe or something yeah there was the Ikea du and Bob's discount furniture had a very good dupe I remember people talking about and then we also stayed in the house in the hamptons that had a cloud couch and we had an amazing experience did we podcast from it not the couch it wasn't it was in the living room we're watching the Olympics yes remember yes yes and it was fantastic yes and we laid on it quite a bit so if I'm a if I'm a homeowner who's renting out my home I'm not getting a cloud couch because it's gonna look worse for the way I'm foreshowing up but we enjoyed it we did deep and I would like a cloud oh okay for free yeah I would also like a jet for free for free if we're just saying things are you ready for our next story um Nicola Peltz's dad I saw I have so many thoughts is breaking his silence on the Beckham family feud he's not really breaking his silence I just want to say no he spoke on it I know but breaking your silence implies that like you're speaking on something and it's your choice I felt like it was actually hella inappropriate and I think the Wall Street Journal interviewer knew it as well because she was like skating around the issue and she looked nervous because she was asking an appropriate question and a business summit so he participated in the Q&A session with Wall Street Journal Invest live in West Palm Beach and he was asked about Nicola to which he quit well he wasn't even asked like she was having such a hard time getting the question out that he eventually like saved her was like yes my he has my family been in the presently I haven't noticed at all the interviewer was like you know you're used to negotiating high stakes situations like she was circling the drain so bad like he actually threw her a life rat to he was like yes oh his my family like made a joke because he seriously was struggling so bad because it was I'm sorry so inappropriate and I'm here for the tea but it's inappropriate a business summit but do you feel like she felt like she had to ask about it because it's the biggest story in the world that he's very adjacent to yeah he is adjacent to it but he's really not I'm he is a major player but not really in terms of like the front facing people we're talking about the back-ons we're talking about Nicola and Brooklyn like we're talking about her family as sort of like in this like abstract kind of way yeah um she could have very easily gotten away with not doing it just because I think it's inappropriate it would have been more professional to not do it anyone who was like mad at her for not asking the average question like could have just been like if this is a Wall Street Journal business summit yeah he's like a billionaire very successful businessman like it's offensive to really stray it into the gutters like this now having said that I'm learning a lot about Nelson is that his name Nelson yeah you don't meet a lot of Nelson's of course Mandela of course he's like kind of the only one and I feel like he did the name like so big no one like I don't know anyone who's naming their kid Nelson no you don't see a lot of kid named Nelson but it's a it's a strong name no it is I feel like it's a successful name you know so I didn't know much about him in like a personality sense and I do feel like maybe she felt like she could ask the question because he is seems like this very affable nice guy yeah and he was like making a joke out of it and he basically said like you know I know my daughter she's amazing and we love our son-in-law and we just want them to have like a very happy life and I always tell them like do everything you can to stay out of the press yeah that's what he said he said my vice is to stay the hell out of the press well they didn't take that one he said my daughter and the Beckham's are a whole other story and that's not for coverage here today but I'll tell you my daughter is great my son-in-law Brooklyn is great and I look forward to them having a long happy marriage together I don't know if he could have answered the question more perfectly like now I'm left with such a wonderful like this is quite a man you know Nelson my impression is overwhelmingly positive um and I'm definitely like thinking you know a man like that has to be raised like an amazing daughter you know what I mean like although I could see also a guy like that like making a soil brat like like like that but whatever I feel like the peltes is huge check in their column just based on this answer I think he might have also been caught off guard so like this was just his you know on the whim response and it was it was amazing I have to imagine he thought about the fact that he's doing press like that someone would ask him about it so I feel like this isn't press this would have gotten literally no coverage it was a business event yeah uh I feel like that's what we said though it seems like both families are really great family like stable and grounded yeah they both have parents who are married with insane loving yeah wealthy so I mean it seems like a no Nicola and Brooklyn self sort of thing it kind of tons like they both and this is again just based on vibes like they both seem genuinely insufferable and that's sort of like not their parents fault no the peltes parents and the back and parents just kind of he's hang out yeah and talk shit they probably have more in common than they think I think so I because it's never it's not been said that it's like they don't like that parents first parents that it's like Nicola and Victoria and Brooklyn and his parents yeah oh are you ready for our four story that's gonna lead into our first TV recap yes because um actually no no like let's just do TV so I'm not ready yeah I think like this next section should be called Mike TV and it's brought Mike to Emily Wonka I don't know it boy he was obsessed with literally me like he definitely in this day and age like we have a podcast like a TV recap podcast for sure he'd say yeah he grew up to be Nick Vile I was just thinking that but then I'm like and we mentioned Nick Vile twice on this podcast today is that like so weird no especially because I'm like involved yeah she we talking about it okay Jackie this clip and I know Jackie hadn't seen it because this clip came across like I don't have any that like there's kind of like beef I don't know if there's beef I have to do a little bit more context I was too admit that there's beef because I don't I don't know anything about the situation you just sent me a clip of Natalie talking about when she was on the toast right and she was kind of like alluding to having like an uncomfortable conversation with you but she was like seemingly upset about how you addressed her age gap um and then I found the clips think shout out to the girl who posted it um and not only did you not ask her like she offered it up so she recounted also I always like I feel like the first thing people think about them is age gap I never remember it so I don't know if I learned about the age gap while she was sitting here or I had only recently learned about it but like I definitely didn't have a harsh reaction to it because I don't in my heart of hearts I don't feel that way like I feel like like she they're beyond that they're beyond yeah like I don't see them as an age gap couple so yeah I don't so she went on her podcast after coming on the toast and like recounted the conversation and she did recount it incorrectly because then I watched a clip and that's not what happened oh like that's why she said I was asking her to do fast math because like she said she met Nick when she was whatever age and I was like oh so how old was Nick so she had to do the math on the spot maybe the math didn't math and no and like I think she was upset she had to do math like that was the vibe I guess I could have done the math because I think she said it was simple math it's 21 plus 18 which how dumb are you is that so 39 okay I think she was calling you dumb I you know what I'm not taking the bait like I had such a great experience yeah you did I really we've had such a good relationship with Nick for so many years I'm unless she'd like text me to my face I don't like you I have no misunderstanding yeah I really and I'm sorry if she came my feeling that way because in because like I said that's not how I feel and there's also not how it was I think they have like a beautiful relationship and beautiful family I think I watch a clip so that's also just not how it went down so and I think yeah they're meant to be I wouldn't question meant to be so I'm not taking the bait I kind of am and who's who's pitting us against each other do you feel like it's the internet well no I just saw this clip clip of her I saw the clip of her like saying she hasn't liked me in that no like rewriting history a little like about her and you know you can't help I you feel when you walk away from a conversation so like she's totally valid and that but then to go on her podcast like recount it like we saw the clip that's not what happened yeah so I mean I just feel fiercely defensive of my maybe you do maybe you do but I'm just not internet enough for this I know I am great so yeah funny that we spoke about them a number of times today yeah they're definitely on the mind because I sent you the clip yeah I also don't know if that clip is old or not me that clip my brain I was like what am I watching it was someone is talking about me I I could not compute and it was like a very short clip like no context I'm like what yeah right what yeah so I still don't understand I don't really either and I'm also not one to pile on I feel like they're getting like hate right now and like I'm never one to be like yeah I hate you too so like 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Sierra is a part of it because this show really is meant to be like the valley yes of the east coast where we see people go onto the next phase of life and they can break out of summer house it was built for Lindsay Hubbard in this era of her life where other cast members can stay on summer house this isn't like summer house continued it's you know you could do both it's the Beverly Hills to Vanderpump rules pipeline we're sending you on your way I have actually high hopes for the show because I feel like even watching last night's premiere so much has changed but like the house hasn't and I actually think for someone like Amanda for someone like Lindsay like in the city is perfect because sometimes like them going out to the Hamptons every weekend and staying in the sharehouse like makes no sense yeah and I feel like last night you know we have all these new cast members and I feel like some of the OGs like Sierra and Amanda like are making such a concerted effort because they're not acting like how they normally act on the first day of summer where they're just very set in their ways and they kind of ignore the new girls and leave them to like hang out with Lindsay um they're being so friendly picking them up and like you know it's kind of weird it's like why are you acting so different and it's like because they have been forced to shift a little bit and it feels a little forced and I think the city show might be a better fit for just who they like everyone likes them how they are yeah and it doesn't necessarily always work in the Hamptons so just be yourself in the city like I do think that there's real potential with that show yeah and I feel like even Amanda and Sierra not going out the first night it's sort of signals like the difference divide in the house of like people who are past doing all of this and people who are still doing all of it but did they go out or did they take no cameras like it was so confusing yeah they cameras usually we see them getting in the car I guess I think they went out and then it was 2 a.m. like it was confusing I think that they went out because they said they were going out and sometimes they do like phone videos yeah I might have looked away for a second so I don't know but I thought that they went out they need to like fix that they need to be going out with cameras like the Jersey Shore like yeah it's that's where everything happens yeah but I think that now people you know if they're stay the bed bugs bed bugging it's like okay well there's a path for the bed bugs right and this could be their last summer in the house and that's fine mm-hmm but they are also trying to like be in the mix with the new girls and the new cast members also the whole storyline of last night and what will be the season probably is like Kyle and Amanda right and is anyone else not to be like a conspiracy theorist I feel like it's very clear that they are not together like in this right so on what happens I've she said that they separated in October like so right after summer before Bob O'Conn and I just feel like at this point they are already like decidedly not together and I think they're both really committed to the show I think if they were decidedly not together they would have been nicer to each other I think that they are so like if they were putting on an act like I think the way that they're so uncomfortable acting in front of people in front of cameras the way they're talking to each other is not a good look even though I think with hindsight if you go watch like the last couple of seasons the way they talk to each other the way they interact she's up at four in the morning he's not home yet like it's funny how now watching it knowing they're separated it all looks like writing on the wall whereas I was thinking about it like saying this for years seasons no but this is like a new level they they have not fighting at the table one kind word to each other fighting at the table the fighting at the table every conversation that each of them is involved in I really do think this is like where the marriage is ending I don't they don't seem like they want to work on it but I do think it is real because I think if they were pretending they would have a little bit more manners towards each other the DJing thing is so crazy yeah and I think people online speculated that that was like a huge reason for the breakup and I was thinking like yeah it's crazy but like this is who he is is always always been people are putting so much stock in him going on tour as a DJ and how like that was her final strike I was like I don't know I think it's like a little too simple but I think that the DJing is the the nail in the coffin well I don't know necessarily of the DJ ending the marriage I think the marriage was ending and so he went to DJ because he didn't want to be home all the time and so that it was like a symptom right not the cause and what we talk about that symptom caused other symptoms we talked about how like the prenup them not having a prenup lover boy and I think you had said like you know I could see her just having foregone her half of it just to get out like it's and how it's really not as valuable as it once was and I watch happens live lessons she kind of confirmed that because she was you know she said she said she never prenup and she said everyone no matter what marriage or like you need a prenup like just do it um she said well they'll be okay but because they really get along very well um but Andy was like but you're entitled to that you know piece of lover boy and she was like well yeah maybe but like it's his thing he has lived and died like he literally gave up our marriage for it so I'm not taking it and I think it's very easy to say that because I do think the brand is presently worth a lot less than maybe it was at its peak and I think lover boy just caused her so much strife and drama it's like take it be gone with it I don't want to be a part of it then we have to work together again like just it's a cleaner break she should get like 5% just for having been there so based on my limited knowledge and just like people telling me things behind the scenes I believe that lover boy and I think this is a storyline on in the city I think Kyle is in major financial distress like I think he took out a lot of personal loans that he cannot um so I don't think there's just 5% to throw around I think it's like and that's why I think it was easy for her to walk away being like this is a mess yes maybe at one point like five years ago they were on track to like be a company that was going to sell to like anizerbrush for $100 million I don't think that's the case I don't think but he never took investors right so the whole point is he has 100% so he has 5% I do believe at one point he did take on investment because I was just reading this article about how like Bravo's the new incubator and there was um there is seed money in the very beginning okay yeah um also I think the DJing thing is an extension of lover boy marketing because like he said that you know some people they DJ and then they go straight home to their families he stays back he talks to the owners I think he's selling lover boy into all of these places I think that like it has been an engine for like lover boy getting into bars and restaurants yes yes and it's not just like I love music and I think he enjoys DJing but it's also more for lover boy no for sure but I think what she's saying is like yes he can go DJ and have a beef or lover boy and sell into these places he doesn't need to be out all night there are people who have successful jobs in nightlife and happy home life like but every person I know it who works in nightlife is sober um has multiple children a very happy marriage in order to be successful in nightlife like you can't be every night uh out till the break of dawn so that's sort of the issue I don't even think her issue is so much as him doing these events like he's always done events for lover boy then the problem is also like he doesn't want to go home and she does like right so say he goes home say he came home every weekend to fight yeah you know what I mean that he's there's a reason he's not going home they're not like happy together and at this point they're not they've given up you're not working towards being better but we've seen them every year you know working towards it we're gonna try this summer and then after the summer they say they're better and they've been working on things and at this point they both run in the towel she will flirt with anyone who walk and everybody wants to flirt with her and this guy Ben what a cutie you're Wednesday of the chef Ben from um yeah uh blodek yeah yeah yeah um I ship and it's like and they talked about that on watch up inside people being like you have a twinkle in your eye when you talk to him like what happened at that wedding she was like no nothing yeah the way she described the wedding was fine but then she like gave a look to Sierra that made me feel like they're dating right now that's just what it made me feel like oh wow even though she said on watch up and so I'm again like she would literally never date someone on Bravo specifically on her show either oh is on Bravo now oh okay I so her bringing him is like her her saying now you know oh okay well she also said that she was asked like who did they think is gonna date again first and she said I think me yeah I mean yeah I feel date like or have sex you know I think like being a relationship well her because relationships are not for him clearly so it's it's really um sad to watch it's uncomfortable and I feel like it's gonna be the entire season and then it's gonna be all of in the city because in the city wrapped before Bravo Con she said that they separated right before Bravo Con so I think that's how in the city ends is with them deciding to separate so that means that this is like four months it's so old it is kind of it is kind of in the city which hasn't even premiered yet it's from October I don't know oh I thought you meant like four months of like it's tea and whatever but like a certain point like we got it like you want to know we're like watching things in real time with social media like I just feel like Hulu and all these they really raise the bar for turnaround times and like this just feels so ancient yeah I'm sure there'll be other storylines in the city and other cast members yeah we need Lindsay oh my god last night episode was really boring I'm sorry Lindsay is such a personality hire yeah she's not like dating who gives a fuck like she's so funny and I do feel like she is it's very authentic the way that she like interacts with the new people and something about last night like seeing these cast members who have like quite literally never made an effort with the new people like forcing and I was just like who are you trying to fool yeah it's crazy that this is the job of million girls would kill for and I feel like the two girls that they got the blonde girl Bailey I can't leave another girl named Bailey after last season's Bailey she definitely has more of a personality like she might do well the other girl was so quiet well just it's episode one I know but you have to come into I'm sorry you have to come into these shows I think I think people who come in too strong like they want to too bad they're trying too hard it doesn't go well I like a slow burn I'm not I'm not judging either them yet but what I do like about them is that they have and like they have a good positive energy they want to have fun they want to meet people I think they're like the right agent in the right place and they've got the right mindset and so I'm I think it's trending positively they're actually like Lexi never existed like it was so crazy do you think she was fired or the she left I think that she was not asked back and it actually made me really sad to think about because it's like she came onto the show and was just like souped and like she was into Jesse but like he didn't give her a choice because he was going to be dating like he loves her just really awful to her and he like totally capitalized her time and her storyline and everything and then I don't know why she wouldn't be asked back like she's exactly what they were looking for like young girl she was going out she was doing it all of the outfits like she has the background and he chewed her up and spat her out it's kind of terrible and that works it's his side it actually makes me really sad yeah and I just feel like it can't be overseed it how like in addition to him chewing weapons fitting around like how the girls were not there for her one bit yeah and it was like kind of sad and painful to watch and it's like she liked him back but it's as if she didn't have a choice he was so into her like he was going she had no other storyline to follow no it's like actually really sad it is really when they was like sitting in bed with Sierra talking about like Wes like they didn't bring up Lexi like you're girlfriend from the last summer who's in the house yeah where's our West meter now hours or I mean like season one was like 10 10 to cross the board season two oh well after the reunion right zero I'm kind of indifferent then we got to like two three last season yeah I feel like the harsher Sierra was with him like the more I kind of felt bad for him because like his crime was breaking up with her which like he is allowed to do I'm so I feel like like now that she's kind of cooled off like I actually just don't carry more do you know yeah and now it's like their show like West and Jess it is it's actually crazy like they're doing press and I guess like a few people got plucked to go on Fallon and it's Lindsey Hubbard as she showed she built the show brick by brick and West like it's crazy is that crazy yeah they did this clip they were playing a game called Imposter with Jimmy West and Lindsey like let me tell you I was cracking up like premium social media content I watched her while I was getting ready this morning like chuckling it was basically like two of them are a trader and one of them is a trader and the two like they don't know who the trader is so they do were association with a topic like the topic is beach so Jimmy goes sand and so you have to like pretend like you know what the topic is I was cracking up yeah I know it was like really funny we should play yeah yeah West's points have a nice summer yeah he he he he's also important to the life of the show like he's very affable he's the future the new guy is his friend he's funny like he's was very well liked with the exception of what happened after season two like he had one of the best first season he at what's the word like he he paid the he did his time yeah he's out of jail yeah he's yeah and then he say that or that's like he they said he's on probation he was like it's better than jail yeah nobody he is and like yeah in the time in the hindsight like her big issue with him was that they broke up which is devastating um and that he did a New York Times article about their breakup which is just sort of like part of his job I think he did a New York Times article about his his his himself and on the show and yeah wasn't about the breakup sorry yeah and and it was covered and she didn't like the way that it was spoken about so I can't believe over it yeah it's tabular asa he is too much of a value add to the show to frost to keep caring about this yeah he didn't do anything bad or wrong like yeah no and it's it's time he navigated a breakup in the way that he thought was right yeah time served yeah and so yeah we'll see what the what the season holds and sorry it really just seems to be about like the delish dissolution of the marriage but to me like that episode it's over yeah not one kind moment yeah painful the going to bed like just he walked into the house it's drove separately oh that was weird yeah what I mean when I say like that it's also forced like I really think that they they probably knew that it was they were going to eventually because they weren't trying to make it better but I think that they would have been more respectful to each other they knew that it was over and like we're just being on a show the way that they're talking now when she's like we talk very respectful very good we can be friends he made like a toast to her at the premiere party said nice things about her because the future is bright yeah our fifth and final story tell me lies recap yes okay felt a little repetitive this episode I can't lie like nothing major except for Brighley Brigh okay I'm obsessed I am too however I didn't love the their first kiss was like a musty but then after kiss then said it and I was thinking I say they're perfect breath of course must have been so ranked she slept on the floor of her teacher's house okay she was out all day because it was a day party the day before drinking I just know she smelled so bad yeah that I couldn't romanticize it I didn't find it romantic I was like you're not gonna kiss right now yeah it would have been better if like when she woke up at the teacher's house they showed her just like going to the bathroom like rushing her face refreshing maybe rinsing some maybe for like using some of Marion's cream it would have been like us like a psychotic thing I like that but she would have been fresh as a daisy oh I love that it was a very upsetting episode for Lucy like that game first I hate that freshman like girl run for your fucking life I know but like no one can tell her anything no no one can tell her anything and like no one's even tried because Diana Lucy if they say something to her like Steven look like jealous that no but like if Steven finds if she if they were successful in saying something to her Steven would have his revenge with them they can't do anything so he didn't send the pictures to the school he sent him to her dad which like I'm really used to honestly because her dad or they'll work it out like it's a temporary yeah it's a temporary thing like just so many upsetting the whole I'm not really understanding the Alex thing which part okay so like the 12 time he's been like a good guy like been a good guy he he sees her as like a wounded burden so he doesn't want to like you know be rough with her wants to take care of her I think he's like a caretaker the way he took care of regrown up from his childhood and everything but like there's a dark side of him no I just think that he is moving on from like seeing her in that way which is what she wanted okay but I was getting the vibe that like she sees in him like a dark side where he likes the like rough tumble like not but in the way like what he said like not if it's coming from a place of trauma he didn't want to do it when he thought it was like she was coming from a place of trauma and how does he see how does he not see that it is coming from a place of trauma because she's sitting on the bed crying she's like crying for other reasons she's not crying because of Chris you know he thinks she's crying because of Chris she's crying because she made that video like yeah it's like separate things and she's doing it it's not I guess it ultimately is trauma not the trauma he thinks but like she wants like punish herself for the bad things that she's done it's a lot I'm not going to like pretend to understand all of it but I I feel like I don't think he's like a bad guy at all I think he's actually a good guy and I think like people are having conversations about like the conversation between Diana and Lucy Lucy think I was gonna say Lisa I'm like what's her name um about like how to handle Stephen and like hers is like yeah uh Diana's is very like she's protecting herself but yeah she's not like you know getting justice and he's not going to be put but it's like a way to live versus Lucy he's like well this is injustice and we have to fix it like yeah and an ideal world sure but like you guys have to coexist and you have to live so like Diana's method is the more effective one yeah I think Diana's method is the only way through where he's graduating soon hopefully we could all move on and you just don't want to set him off and look at the wedding Diana's the one who has successfully escaped his grasp she's moved on she seems to be a successful lawyer she's in a relationship with Pippa whereas Lucy's still having sex with him and playing whatever games that they play yeah very upsetting yeah it was very upsetting the party like the way Lucy was just like skulking around like just to nervous at every corner and also like like you said it doesn't occur to these people like Lucy specifically that she can transfer again it would solve all of her problems she also can't start hanging out with a different group of friends yeah she is considering study abroad which is good but we haven't heard back from that that would be next semester and Stephen is leaving right so not really necessary or like it Stephen's going to a party like don't go she doesn't actively avoid him and it's you know not fair to blame her because he's the evil one but like she seems like she wants to get away from him in some instances but she doesn't take any active steps to doing that yeah I feel like last season she did yeah it was like being better she was and then he got his grips in her again yeah yeah I don't I don't fully under I guess that's just like you know the toxic cycle right but he's so awful yeah it's really crazy that game was crazy but anyways we have our break oh by the way obsessed with that game like when you're not like in a crazy group of people we should play that's not so fun I would never take this I would just be like okay obviously and I was wanted to shake Lucy don't fucking drink yeah that's a way to protect yourself yeah you want to rise above great so they literally gave you away yeah and what was her question who hates themselves the most oh yeah from Evan who was fucking writing these questions obviously Steven wrote a few yeah and then she wanted an interesting game so she the the girl girl yeah she's wild it was giving housewives like who plays a game like that yeah I'm I feel like they'll play it on house I was I never heard of this game before but it's so housewives coded yeah I would not drink I don't care what you guys think of me seriously you're all low life losers um you're going nowhere in life I'm all set TTYL TTFN to offer now um so yeah that's tell me that's it's episode eight so like what is there 10 ep oh so this was the story that um Bri and the actor who plays oh Evan was being a real prick yeah I feel like that was very incongruous with the guy that we know like he really loves Bri I feel his love is really genuine and this sort of groundbreaking moment him being like well by you tell me like yeah but I think that comes from like him like being like so loving and like possessive of her where it's like he wants to be the number one person you would think he would be on his best behavior because he just got her back and like whatever you want Bri yeah but yeah he's he's acting a little incongruous I would agree it was confusing yeah it was just like they needed him to conveniently become the villain well they said that Bri said that the finale is going to blow up the internet really is it this is series finale no I don't there's one more season uh it feels like there's too many loose ends yeah and like it's the middle of the second semester of their sophomore year like they could do they have more the younger girls have more once the boys graduate I think it's over well that's this semester there's one more semester yeah it's how can we do one they just came back from Christmas season what time of year is it like I think it's like February oh Valentine's Day right oh so they're only like so it's like a way through the semester weeks away from the finale they still spring break yeah I feel like they can eat one out and who would not go do another season of such a successful show yeah okay yeah but after I'm only coming saying that like the traders banquet was like I'm literally scarletized and it was like fine um I'm not believing Bri I I thought I was like you know Shrewd and jaded and I completely fell for that so we'll see if this really blows up the internet I'm gonna need another Brighley kiss that's not disgusting just putting that out there please and thanks it would have been like sweeter to hug in that moment of course and just sort of like they know terms and we're stopping fighting each other like let's just we know and you're here for me it's not just about like we'll get to the kiss you know but right now you just hear for me yeah especially because it was this traumatizing evening for her with like her teacher yeah it was not like sexy or cute people are being like we got our hashtag Brighley because I went on Twitter after to see what people were saying and I'm like we got breath like I don't know when you guys are selling I saw breath you had this team react me and had a whole conversation about it actually because he was shocked it's so awesome why I would I would think that like that you would have escaped me yeah like I it's of course my first thought you know I'm obsessed with breath yeah and it's like everyone's waiting for this season like that Jackie on the stew about diving for teachers house where she just spent the night in her gothic makeup and the musty nature of the whole affair well that's our show you guys thank you so much for listening to the Toast the Molline Morning Show where we build the fast-faceted stories in each and every Monday through Friday and YouTube so if you're watching this on YouTube please subscribe and give us a video thumbs up or also I'll be able to park us in your podcasting 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