A Florida Researcher’s Terrifying Sasquatch Encounters in Pasco County

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In this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring you firsthand encounters from people who say they've seen something impossible, from backwards trails and remote mountain haulers to quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere, and each one leaves us with more questions than answers. These are the voices of the people who've lived it, so settle in because today you'll hear another account that just might change the way you see the woods forever. So stay with us. All right, Bigfoot Society, welcome back to another episode. Today we've got the privilege of talking to Mike Aguilar. Mike is a senior field researcher for the mid-Florida Bigfoot Research Group, and he's been doing that for over six years. You've heard of this organization from my interviews with Marie Dumont. I've talked to her a few times over the last few years, but finally able to have Mike on the show. I've got just a long list as you can imagine. I'm like, man, I gotta get Mike on. And then I just worked out. I'm not sure if I can't remember if I reached out to you or how it worked out, but it worked out finally and Mike, welcome to the show. How are you doing today, man? Awesome, man. Thank you for having me. I really appreciate it. Happy to be here. Absolutely. So Mike, you are down there in the state of Florida. You guys have got so much going on. So many, I mean, hot zone area, hot spot areas. I'm looking at my map and looking at other maps that are out there. You guys have a lot of stuff going on, but you were telling me you've actually had multiple visual sightings over the years, but it probably would be best to kind of start back when you first all got into this and what you got into. Yeah. So starting out, like I was pretty much like everyone. I didn't, I did not believe, I didn't believe. It was this kind of, I enjoyed watching the shows when they came on, you know? It wasn't anything that was in a part of my life. It literally wasn't a part of my life until it walked in front of me. And I was, my journey started in 2017. I was in Homosassa, Florida. And that was about an hour, a little over an hour from where I grew up, but I used to go fishing there a lot. And I was with my best friend and we were going to go fishing that day. And we were, there's an area that's called Old Mason Creek Road. And it's a private, like a boat ramp at the end of that road, it's a private ramp. So that's the one I was like to use to get away from all the traffic, from all the people that go to Homosassa, the river for scalloping and stuff. So we're driving, it's like 6'30 in the morning. And that time of year, the sun is like, just starting to peak up above the trees. And so as we're coming down the road, there's a set of S curves. And if you're coming around this curve, you can see up ahead to like the third curve. And as I'm coming around the curve, I'm that third curve, I see this shadow walking up towards the edge of the road from the left to right. And he was just a big, just a big dude walking up on the edge. And as I come around the curve, he walks up, he goes into the road, probably about 80 yards ahead of me, or so. And he walks and he goes from shadow and he crossed the road. And he took like one or two steps and was almost across the road, like halfway. And he just had that perfect patty look, like he looked over, armed swinging across the road. And when he hit the light, he turned from shadow to cinnamon. And he was like reddish brown color and every bit of seven foot tall, at least. And my best friend's literally right beside me, looking out the window, I don't know what he was looking at. But the sun just hit him just perfect. And with the sun behind him, it was like a silhouette. And you could tell it was hairy. You could just see it, like a little more. And I like, came around the curve and came back around again, as you come back, he was gone. It was that quick. And I'm like, my brain took a photo, you know, I was like, holy crap. So I pulled up my stop, then I'm like, oh my God. Like, you see that thing? And he's like, what are you talking about? I was like, you didn't see that thing just walking across the road? He's like, what are you talking about? I was like, dude, it was hairy. And it was tall, it was huge, it was big. It wasn't like bulky big. He was like, like I go to the gym, basketball, player, big tall guy, you know? And it wasn't super bulky. It was tall, kind of like, like ripped looking, like just perfect frame. And he was sideways, because I caught that sighting and watching him. But my friend never saw it. I couldn't believe it. Like, it was that quick and he just never saw it. And we got out, I'm looking around. He thought I was like losing my mind. And till it is day, he's still never saw it. And doesn't know what to think of it, you know? It was this, I saw it and he didn't. And it changed my life. Like, I had to know what I saw. And I couldn't stop thinking about it over and over. Like, I kept playing that picture in my head watching that thing come up and right in front of me. And I just, I dove nose deep like head first into the rabbit hole, you know? Wow. I couldn't stop. That's right. So how long would you say that the entire road crossing took in front of you? Maybe five to eight seconds, just as it was coming up. It came up from the side. And as I'm going around the curve, you know, he's just coming up, walking. And it just was right in front of me. Just never stopped. He was just fluidly going, you know, it felt like it was a slow motion, but it was just pretty quick, you know? But since then, I've had, I've had a lot, a lot closer things happen, I would say. Okay. I got the seedlings, got to see things a lot closer. Oh, I can't wait to hear about that. I got one or two more questions about this because this is very interesting. So you have the side view, but then you have it look back towards you for a short amount of time. Did you notice anything about the face when it looked back towards you during that time? It was just far enough where I couldn't see facial details, but I could just see the arm swing as he looked back. It was almost perfect. Like if you look at the patty film, like just happened looking over towards me. Like I'm looking at you as I'm crossing the road, you know? He just looked over and his arms are swinging. I could tell his arms were down, his knees, when he was he walked because I was like, wow. Not goodness. Yeah, 80 yards would be a, really the perfect amount of distance for you not to be able to, I mean, that's almost what just under three tennis courts. So yeah, it would be very hard to see facial details I'd imagine. So then after this, it sounds like you really dive into the subject to try to find out more about it. Yeah, I just, I watched that first. I just, I did probably what everybody does. I watched every document documentary and everything I could learn and try and figure out. And I learned a lot from Dr. Melderon before I ever met him. And just, just watching documentaries and him and Stacey Brown with some of the first people I ever watched, because Stacey was from Florida. And those were the first person out. People always trying to learn, you know, seeing what they were doing. And then I just started going out on my own. And not because I wanted to find answers. So I started using things on how I grew up in Florida. I mean, I've been in these woods my whole life. And I had never seen anything like that. But I figured if this thing is not turned on like it's supposed to be, then I'm going to go out in the middle of the day when it's resting and it's relaxed. And that's what I'm going to find it. And that's what I did. And it worked. And it scared that out of me. I had two bad ones happen. And since those, I've changed the way I do everything because I don't ever want to go through those experiences again. The bad ones. Oh my goodness. And so this is pre-you being involved with mid-Florida Bigfoot Research Group. Right. Right. This was I had two. I had two experiences happen. I call them, I say my bad ones. They were their bad ones, but they were my fault. And I know that now because I've never had another bad one. And I learned a lot. We took a trip to the Pacific Northwest and I got to meet Thomas Suid. And then that was awesome. And he told me things I was doing wrong. And he made jokes with me about it. But you learn from it. You know, and I realized it's so clear with things. It was all my fault. You know, I walked into something's back door without knocking. Right. When it was resting. Well, I think that I take the road of they're more like us than they are more than more animal. I still have a look at it. And because they're so intelligent. And I know they're in family groups. But so my thought was, I'm going to go in the middle of the day, the hottest part of the day. In Florida, you know, one o'clock in the, in Florida during like, I think it was, it was probably not April was when the first one happened. And that's probably about 89, 90 degrees. It's pretty hot. So usually most things are better down and relaxing. So I grew up in an area that is right back up to a reserve that's 9800 acres. In Florida, that's a lot of land because everything's being funneled in. And if you know the corridors and you follow them where they run into areas, you find these small areas that are protected. And nobody can go in there. This area in particular, you can't hunt, you can't drive in there. Nothing. So I had to get on a bicycle and ride. It's where I grew up. And as a kid, I always, always in there. There's a creek that runs through there. So I said, I'm going to go to that creek. That's the water, that water source is going to be by the water source. I found the deepest, thickest hammock that I could find. And I'm going to go, I circled it on the map. I said, I'm going to go there. So I did. I drove my bike in and I rode it. It's almost three mile bike ride in. And then once I got off the bike, it was about a half a mile trail walk to where the creek goes through really deep into the forest. And I'm walking down that trail and I get, I had to make a right. And then there's a little tiny trail that went towards the water. And as I'm walking down the trail, there was a tree broken this way. And there was a tree broken this way, two different ways crossing, blocking the path. And like, you know, your gut tells you not to do something. My gut said, you're not, that's telling you not to be in here. But I didn't listen to it. I was going home like I was not scared of anything. Growing up in Florida, not much will scare you if you've wrestled alligators and every type of critter you can your whole life. And I stepped over that limb, stepped over the next one. And I found what looked like about a probably 13, 14 years footprint. And I'm like, that's a footprint. And there was another one that looked at another impression in front of it. I'm like, this is really a footprint. And I'm looking at that footprint and I heard something go, it cracked. And to me, it sounded like a tree about that big around popped. And have you ever heard, I don't know if you ever heard the sound that makes when something falls into palm, it's extremely loud. Palm, it's super loud. There wasn't a wind, there wasn't a breath blowing. It was a hot part of the day, not a sound being made and that thing crunched. It sounded like it got up and used something to help it get up and it broke. It fell into the palm of it. And it made this rumbling sound start to come in toward me. Just just and it gurgling. And it was like instant, like you feel it. And it was holy cow. And I kind of like half head turned and I couldn't see where it was at, but it was close because it's a sound was close in that growl when it came through. I always joke to say that like a comparative like a giant, a giant gator bellowing, like a like a deeper version of an alligator, but it bellows that like, the gargling, gurgle sound. And but it hit me. And when it hit me, it was like, okay, my, my exact words were, I'm sorry. I'm leaving. I didn't, that's what I said. I'm sorry I'm leaving. I turned, I knew not to run because I didn't know what was what it was. You know, 100%. I know it was, but I didn't know what it was. I start walking and I'm walking down that trail. That thing just growled at me now and I'm terrified. I'd be up to the front and I have to make a left. So it was on. All right. So if you're looking down the trail, it was on my right. So as I'm turning around and going out, it's on my left. The trail I came in on now, it's going to be on my left side. So I start walking down the trail. It starts paralleling me. Crunch, crunch, I stopped, it stopped. Then I heard another set of footprints, crunch, crunch. And maybe a third, there was multiple ones that were following crunch, crunch, crunch, crunch, crunch. I kept hearing a funny sound and I'm trying to like butt, puck or walk out of there because I'm scared. I don't want to run. Like I said, in case it triggered it to come after me, whatever, you know, and I hear, I kept hearing it and then the stick landed in front of me. They were throwing sticks at me. They were flipping them at me. And it's not like they were trying to necessarily take me out with them, but it's like they were getting me out of there. I start walking down, I swear into my periphery, I saw something go past me and I thought that's it. He's going to go up, he's going to flight me, I'm done. And but it never happened. I made it back to my bike. And it was like I said, about a three mile ride out of there and I pedaled that fastest I've ever pedaled my life. I got back to my truck and I'm like sitting there and I started feeling sick. And then I threw up, I threw up again. I couldn't hold it down. I was wrong with me. And my ears started ringing. I started feeling horrible, started getting sweats. Like I was horribly sick feeling. And I didn't know it's a later that I got that I got that I got hit with impression is what we think 100% for three days. My ears were swollen feeling like like inside, felt like someone had like done something damage to them. To this day, they still have, I can't dive anymore. I can't dive under like three feet of water. Because it did something to my ears. It's weird. Oh my goodness. So that was number two. That is some scary stuff. Have, have you gotten other reports from the same area of other people having similar instances or there's been quite a few reports from this area. On the other side of there's two ways to come in. There's only two ways to come in that is preserved. And on the other side, there's, I believe there's a BFRO report from over there. And there was another person who grew up over there as well. I can't give out his name because I'm not sure, you know, how he feels about that right now. But I've talked to him and he said he said on his property. And he said things happen over there. And he's on the other side of the preserve from me. I never even knew all this, you know. I thought I was the only one that had anything happen out there until recently. And as far as I know, I'm the only person that's done research out there though. Craving the coffee flavor you love. But without the caffeine, Kachava's got you covered with their newest coffee flavor. 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We thought, you know, it's like a Pacific Northwest thing or Alaska thing. But this was this huge Cypress tree right in the middle of a pine area. No Cypress trees. Cypress trees were probably 300 yards away. And it was brought over there and propped up perfect with the root ball. This gnarly looking root ball sticking up in the air. It's a great picture. I'll send it to you another time. I'll share it with you. It's really cool looking. Thank you. So that area, that area led me to other areas that revolved around that creek. That creek was the life source. And I just basically what I started doing. I started going into all the thickest Cypress hammock areas down that creek and trying to find the most remote places that nobody had been in a long time. And it's all one part of big funnel part. It's the most narrow area that you can have protected land like that throughout the area. Basically, there's building going all the way around it. So everything's forced into there. The hogs, the deer, turkeys. Everything is forced into this little small funnel. I mean, that makes perfect sense. Why you would go to a place like that to just to get potential activity. Everything's being forced in there. Well, so are we, this is actually a question I should have asked earlier. Are you considering these scunk ape or Bigfoot or how are you referring to them in this area? Yeah. I'm a believer there's two species. I think there's two. One's a subspecies or something. I think that starts about just south of Tampa. South Tampa, Mayaka, down through the Everglades. I'm not saying that there can't be Bigfoot or Sasquatch down there because I've seen things that says there is. But I think that there's whatever those species are. I think their line is kind of like Tampa somewhere in that area. And they seem to be a little more aggressive and a little more primal, like a little more not quite as educated if you would. You know, like we don't find structures as much. We don't find, you don't find it as much knowledge to me. Like the things that we find in the other areas. Like a lot of like weavings and tree structures and different things and markers. You find that a lot more north of Tampa, Tampa, north. That's extremely interesting. Okay, yeah, that's something I'd never heard of. But probably something cool worth looking into. What was the main lesson that you learned from that experience that you were not going to replicate in the future? I no longer dress in full camo. And I don't go. If I'm going into an area, I announce myself now. I said, I have one more that was the one that sealed it for sure. But I quit, like I said, but that was the one that really got me. But I had one more why I would say very unsettling one. And it was the worst one yet. And that one happened with my dog with me. But I just after those two, like that's the main thing though. It was like if middle of the day is when they're relaxing. And if you want to catch one off guard, that's when you do it. And that's what happened. I mean, think about it. You walk up on deer. You jump deer all the time in the middle of the day when it's hot. They're bedded down. And I think that's what they do as well. Everything in Florida gets more active at night. It seems to be hogs, deer. It's cooler. Less people because we're so congested with so many people and everything too. And it just makes a lot more sense. So really it sounds like you almost, and you can tell me if I'm on the right track or not, but it sounds like you kind of changed your intention of how you were going into these areas. I mean, you're not dressed up as a hunter and camo. You're kind of more laid back. Maybe you're announcing yourself. You're not trying to pull one over. Whatever's in there. I don't know. Right. And so I'll give you, I'll give you, I'll give you the next one that finish it because then I can tell you some good things. Okay. Because I learned a lot. Those two bad experiences really led me to a lot of good ones afterwards. After I changed a lot of things, you know. But so the second time was another area that, and what I do is, I like I said, I kind of feel drawn to those areas. I look at them, same thing with fishing spots. I'll go on a map and look, okay, I want to fish this spot. Same thing. And I'm good at finding spots like that. Areas that I think something should be. So this area was closer towards Tampa and still part of the same creek system. And you, the area is a narrow area, very, very hard to get into. But it's very close to, it backs up to a million dollar neighborhood. Like one of the richest neighborhoods throughout Tampa in, uh, Pasfer County. And so I found a way in and there's a power line run that runs through it. And I, you know, pain attention like, oh, power line runs, subs happens. Well, I found a power line run that has not been mowed in 30 years because it's too wet back there. The creek runs into it. So nobody goes back there. And there's a creek that cuts off. So in order to get to the spot that I found, you have to walk three miles around. And not many people are going to do that. Walk around the creek to go back and come in another mile back into it. In order to get to where it's at. If you understand what I'm saying, like, you got to go three miles out of your way and come back a mile in. And um, the reason we found the spot was me and my son, I took him fishing and the creek to kind of do squats a little and fish a little too. And we heard some stuff going crazy. We always caught them. The 400 pound bar douse. The 400 pound. House. Because it's like. Woo. Woo. It doesn't sound like it's not like. Woo. You know, it's more like. Oh, like, well, we're sitting there fishing and you could see around the corner of my son saw something and he's like, Dad, I see something. It's looking at me from the tree. And I thought he was messing with me, you know? And I'm like, all right, son, you know, whatever. He starts crying like he gets mad like, Dad, I know I see something. It was looking at me from the side of the tree. The crit goes in zigzags. So if you're looking down the side, it's about a block away. You can see the trees up there. And all of a sudden after he said that, it sounded like a flock of bar dows started going off at 11 o'clock in the morning just, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, like it was wild. And I was like, all right, this is weird. So I ended up taking him home and I'm like, I'm coming back the next day. And that's what I did. I looked it up and I'm at, figured out how to get over there. And I go into this area with my dog. I had my dog miley with me. And had her on her leash. We walk into the area and I just randomly found this area that was going to go ahead and towards the creek again. And as I'm walking in, I see a set of, first I found a treat come trees that were bent from some of the first tree bends and breaks I had really found. And they were really cool. Like the way they had been bent, like twisted and bent and bent over. And I started getting all that weird ear feeling again. And I'm getting back in there and I find this, there's three pomato palms. And pomato palm pomato palm trees don't fall over easy, even with hurricanes. And this was a cluster of three and it was pushed over. Like it looked it was pushed over. There was a root ball sticking up. It was dug out underneath it. And it looked like a body had been laying in there. On the right side of the cluster, there was a skinned tree completely bald. And it was propping up this side of the cluster. So the trees were like this. And on this side of the root ball, there was another one. So it was being supported both ways with stripped, look like poles. There were trees that were like this on each side. So one by the trees and one by the back of the root ball. So there was no way for it to fall down. Under this side where the pomato palms was, it was bedded down with more pomato fronds. It was a clear nest. So there was a nest in the, there was a nest on the backside of it dug out. And then I started looking around and I find more. The root balls, they were dug out underneath and they were laying under them. Is what they were doing. They're pushed over and they were digging out the root balls to make easy little shelters, little beds is what it looked like they were doing. So I go walking out after I had filmed all that and I go walking out towards the main, it's like a four wheeler trail that went through and I'm walking down and I found footprints on that four wheeler trail. I'm like, this is freaking incredible. I found a lot of footprints, like really good ones. And I walked up to a set of 19 inch footprints. They were massive and I have good pictures of those two. There's two of them and boom, boom. And they were in the grass though off the edge of the road. They weren't right in the road. They were off the edge. But whatever it was was so heavy. They were 19 by nine wide. They were massive. But the mud was that thick coming out from the back of the grass with this thing had to be a thousand pounds. It was like juiced up on the back of it. You can see it and it was, it was wild, how good it was. Well, I started getting that feeling again and I'm like, you know what? I'm not doing that again. I'm like, I'm not going to go in and get hit by one of these things again. I'll come back with my friend. You know, I'm going to come back. It was already too late. I don't know if I got too close or what it was. My dog starts doing her little low growl. I just got them filming the picture, the footprints. And she starts growling real low looking at the wood line, which was about 30 yards from me 20 yards, probably about 20 yards actually, 20, 25, something like that. Our, it was real thick. You couldn't see into it, but you could see trees sticking up above it, three of them. And I heard something and she, you know, she perked up and it sounded like a stomp. It felt like it felt like something like boom, stomp the ground, boom. And I'm like, and she jumped and her hairs raised up and starts growling. And then that tree in the middle moved. And then it moved again. And then it freaking went like this. And it, it was, this is a tree that was eight inches, ten inches around the decent size tree, 50 foot tall. I don't know if it was a oak. I can't tell you exactly what tree it was, but it shook it like this and it let out off the sound. And it pushed the whole tree over and she turned and almost killed herself on the, on the leash trying to get away. She's like, wow, on herself. I literally turned. I said, I yelled at, I'm sorry, I'm leaving. And I had tears in my eyes like I'm a grown-ass man. And I'd never had, that was the second time I could say the first time was primal fear. This time was like primal fear, Excel. And I don't care who you are, how tough you think you are. When something like that happens, you're not, you're not tough. That thing scared the crap out of me. And I picked up the phone, I called my best friend, I'm like, listen, remember where I told you where I was going? I'm there. And something is following me. It just pushed a tree over. He's like, what are you talking about? And I'm like, listen, if I don't call you in 20 minutes, call me again. If I don't answer, this is where my body's at. Like that thing is mad, it's pissed off at me. Well, long story short, I made it back, it didn't hurt me, it bluffed me, it worked. 110% worked. I want to know part of whatever that thing was. But so that was the second bad one. The last time I ever had a real bad one. Wow, that's intense. I'm going to guess you probably have never been back to that area since. Actually, no, I'm stubborn. I've been back quite a few times and I've never had that's actually where me, RPG and his kids and my kids all went back to that area together. This is years later now. It's been, this was in 2019 when that happened. And so it's been quite a few years. I've been going there for a long time actually. I've had, I started having better things happen. And I wouldn't take the kids in there when I have to that happen. I wouldn't do that. And my son's considerably older now too, you know, he's 11. But we took all of our kids back there and I've never had a bad feeling ever again. I just think I don't know if I pissed off the road, I pissed off the alpha with the dog. I don't know what I did, but that thing was pissed. And I think I got too close to it's, maybe I got too close to it's little ones, who knows? But it was, it did his job. It ran me out of there. And but that same area, my son, where I was telling you earlier, that's where my son had a class A citing. He saw it right there. He saw it like squat. It was looking at him. He came up from the back of it. Me, RPG and his kids were walking out this way farther about 10 yards from him. And it didn't see him. And as he came around the corner, he was staring at it. He said it was dad. It was eight foot and four foot wide. Jet black. He said, look at him and just said it looked like it hovered down. Like gone. But he was, he started crying. I'm like, what's wrong? What's wrong? He's like, I just saw one. Like, he was so dead serious. We've got it on film. Like, not him seeing it, but what happened afterwards, you know? When you manage procurement for multiple facilities, every order matters. But when it's for a hospital system, they matter even more. 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I was not comfortable by myself nearly as much for a long time. I've gotten more comfortable now. I still have it in the back of my head. It does something to you. You see something do something like that. You realize a gun is not stopping that thing. Nothing's stopping that thing. It just pushed over a tree that was 50 foot tall. The footprints I saw and how much that thing weighed to make that impression on the ground, that things 800 to 1000 pounds. You're not stopping it. I still believe that I messed up. Like I said, the way I was handling it. I was scared, yes, but I'm so curious and I can't stop it. I'm in so deep on it now. It's almost fun to be scared a little, but I don't want to have those type of experiences again. I've gone in and that's after that. Shortly after that's when I met Stacy. Was the next one I met. Stacy Brown. He actually came to that location with me. We met up and that was how I first met him. We went out together, hit me him in his camera crew and we did a side-by-side comparison of I have a picture. I have a blurry photo from something that was 9 foot tall we estimated. Perfect size to see if you'll just take a tree over. But the picture, it's that. To me, it looks like a hairy in the hairy from Harry and the Henderson's looking sideways. He was turning to go back around the tree where I was at where that bedding area was. Like I said, it's blurry, but you can see it. The video you can see him. You can see him come out. It slowed down so much, but you can see him come out bigger, bigger, bigger, bigger. As I come back, he goes back and disappears behind the tree. It was like that quick. My dog never picked up. There was so many smells going on that she didn't pick up on it. By the way, my dog after that day wouldn't go down a trail ever again that she smelled them on. Never again. If she smelled that smell that she had picked up on that day, she stopped at the trail and would not go forward. They ruined her. She would never go in there again. My goodness, is that video on a YouTube channel that people can see at all? I'm going to be posting them. I said, I really, I'm just really starting to get my YouTube channel going. I'm going back to all my old videos and old things. First starting out, you know how people are, trolls are ridiculous. They ridicule you. That's what I went through when I first started. I'm like, I'm seeing everything. Why can't you see it? I just learned that not everybody is going to see what you see. You're not going to change someone's point of view the way they think. They're not open-minded. They're not open-minded. I no longer even play those games anymore. I'm like, you know what? I know what I saw. You saw, you don't believe it. That's fine. That's okay. I'm starting to get it more on my channel. My YouTube channel is Squatchin' FL. I'm going to be building that up. I'm going to be putting more of my old videos together and putting them out there for people to see again. Now that I have my own place to do it and let people make their own decision on what they see. We'll put the link to your channel in the show notes as well. Then after you have these experiences, though, it sound like you started to have some that were definitely a better experience after you started changing some things about how you were approaching it. Yeah, 100%. I found an area, another part of that same preserve that I grew up on, but the other side of it. I don't know how I swear I had a dream. You know they say these things can get in your head. I never would have believed that. I never would have believed it. But the more I was going out, the more I was having these weird, vivid dreams all the time. One of the dreams, ironically enough, led me to this spot. I drunked about it. I can't explain it. But I went there. It was, I, from the moment I got there, I started having weird things always happening, but they were never bad. I never had a bad feeling. And ever since I got hit with that, that whatever they hit me with, and my ears felt bad, I'm sensitive to it now, like a freaking beacon. Like I walk into an area now and I'm like, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, I can feel it. Whatever they're kicking out, whatever that is, whether it be a frequency or whatever it is, I feel like it's a defense mechanism they have. They can somehow hit you with a frequency, you know, that, that message you up. I think they can use it to hunt with too. But whatever it is, I pick up one of them now. I don't have the answers for it. And I've been called, I've been crazy for it for it. But whatever happened that day, it changed me for life. And I walk into the woods and I'm like, beep, beep, beep, beep, it's like I feel like I got, like they got a marker on them. Like I can tell you they're there. I can feel it. I feel the pressure. I feel whatever it is. And it's usually right. That is extremely interesting what you just said because it actually just came up in another interview I did today. And it's something I've experienced too. So you're saying that the pressure kind of changes when you're in the area. Yeah. Yes. Yes. Yes. So is it pressure in your ears? Can you go into that anymore explaining what you're experiencing? When you walk in, when you walk in, it's like when you're getting close to it, when one of their marath, it's almost like some of my put their fingers in your ear and it's like putting pressure on it. It's like pressure just this weird pressure in your ear. I used to never, I never gotten that before. But like almost like when you're on an airplane and it's right before your ears pop, it's almost like that. It's just almost like a low pressure you feel. And it's like, and that pressure comes with that anxiety feeling you start getting like something's there, you know? And then it's like it all starts making sense. And it's like, I get it every time I'm around them now. And but what's weird though is this area, this area, it would do it at first, but the more I went in there, it stopped. And I realized that whatever was in there was accepting me more and more. I went through a bad separation. And I went through it was, I don't say it was a bad separation, it was just a bad time of life. I went, I got very depressed, very down. So I used that as my escape. I would go into the woods after work every day. And I spent for two years, I was going into this area all three, four times a week. I'd go into this area and just walk around and I found half my footprints came from this area. And I would walk in, they got to the point where I would walk in. This is the first area I started gifting too. But I would walk in the trailers, two trails to get into the woods back there. And it was behind County property. There was a fence line that went down and nobody went back there because of that. And I found one way you could go in without getting in trouble for it. And I talked to a county worker and he said, yes, as long as you're not in the property, you're fine. As long as you're going back to that preserve. It's like, okay, so I'd gone in there forever. And it ended up being, this is the area that if Marie's ever talked about, our active area, it's this one. This is our active, this is our active gifting area that we've had all of our crazy stuff happen. We've gone in there for years. And this family group is, it started with me and then I brought Marie and then when me and Marie became friends and then we've grown people in there and there's a group of us that go in and throughout the years and we've never had anything wrong. We've been in there at night. We've never had any of us have a problem back there ever. But we've had so much interaction with them, taking things, moving things, opening candy, finding stuff. Like, I had two gifting spots. I'd go to one and there'd be gifts stuff that I left at this gifting spot, I'd find it the other one, the wrappers. Like, I would go walking in and on the two trails, there'd be no footprints walking in. As I go to leave, I'd find five or six that followed behind me walking in. No footprints that are following me as I came in, like, oh, he's here. Like, it was weird, man. Like, they got to the point where I could be about 75 yards away and I would see tree peakers just a little. And that's all you get. That's all you get. But they were just comfortable enough to rest, stuff like that was happening. And they got like that with all of us. Like, it was pretty awesome. Oh, wow. That I'm remembering as you're talking, talking to Marie about that area. And I think was there something to do with, like, you plush animals or stuffed animals, something like that as part of the gifting process? Yep, the little bear. We put the little bear there with had glass eyes and we came back the first time and it was face down in the mud with a tag ripped off. And we're like, that's weird. So every time we sit this bear up, they would put it down, face down. Like, they didn't want to look at his eyes or something. Every time they face it down, it was so weird. We put up cameras out there and on the left and the right side on the two trails, everything stopped for three months, all activity. And I'm like, Marie, we got to take these cameras out. That's it. That's what's doing it. And then one day stuff started happening again, even when the camera's up and I'm like, all right, we'll check the cameras, nothing on them. We found the fence in the middle behind the gifting spot, bent to the ground. They had ripped up the barbed wire, stretched it up, bent the, it looked like something sat on it, like this huge dent. They bent all the barbed wire down and up out of the way and they made a passageway through the fence between the two game cameras back to the gifting spot so they wouldn't be seen on camera. Like, are you kidding me? It was freaking cool. I found, I found trip wire back there. That was one of the coolest things I've ever found. They took a vine that was about an inch and a half around. So if you have a fence, picture the fence is like this. The trail goes down the fence. On this trail over here, I always called it the obstacle course because it was trees all leaning all kind of funny all the way down the whole fence line. And I thought it was to keep people out. Now I realized that was for hunting. And what they would do is that trail over here, if a deer, and, and, okay, so you got your points right here, the fence line. And the trails run down this fence and on this fence. The trip wire was right here at an angle. So if you're a squash stand right here and they're running a deer this way, he only has one way to go right into the trip wire. The trip wire was like two and a half, three feet off the ground, perfect deer height. It was a vine and they stretched it out about, I don't know, 30 foot long. It went around a tree, around another tree. It had a piece of wood about this big and it twisted to hold the tension. It was a frickin trip wire. It was amazing. I couldn't believe it. That's a really, I don't think I've heard anything that comes close to that. What a great example of intelligence. Do you guys have any ideas of how many or are in that area if you've got like a certain size group or anything like that? Well, I found seven different size footprints in that area. This guy right here, he's the one that follows me around all the time. These are his, I think he's a teenage male. Okay. Wow. So I left, I made this footprint. I came, I left it, I came to go, I made a casting of it and I had to leave it. It was just about dark and it wasn't dry yet. So I left it and came back the next morning to check on it about a foot away from it was this one. Okay. He walked over and stood over it. He walked over and stood over it and that's why there's toes, I think, because he sat there longer standing in this muddy area looking like what the heck is up with this human? What is he making with my footprint? You know, and then that one was there. So there's your matching set. Well, actually, it's like this. That's cool. Yeah. And this this footprint right here, I found everywhere back there. I called him big toe because he never left any other toe prints just as big toe. I don't know if he's injured or if he lifts them like that, you know, but he only left his big toe. It's really odd. And what's the length of those again? Those are 13, but they're not super long, but they're wide, super wide. Now this one's cool. This one has a big one. This one is, I think it was 17, but if you look inside of it, there's a double step. There's one walking inside of it and which we find all over the place. So this one's missing the toes up here. A lot of times we get like, we'll get the, like, we'll get the pad, right, to here and we all get the toes. A lot of times they're missing. So it's hard to determine if it's a boot or if it's, you know, almost like a boot print, but it's not. But this one's basically missing the toes up here, but you can see where another one's stepped in. It also is pretty, pretty cool print. Craving the coffee flavor you love, but without the caffeine, Kachava's got you covered with their newest coffee flavor. This all-in-one nutrition shake delivers bold, authentic flavor, crafted from premium decaffeinated Brazilian beans. Quality nutrition shouldn't be complicated. 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I wanted to talk to somebody. So I literally called Idaho State University and anthropology department. And he answered and he talked to me. He talked to a guy he had no idea who he was. And he talked to me for 45 minutes, telling me what to do, how to do it. This stupid hit from Florida. And he's telling me how to do it because you know, proper, he talks. And like I felt so dumb talking to him, but he taught me so much. And he was like, listen, I believe you're having things going, you're finding things. He's like, just start recording it properly. Always give me a size comparison and you can send him and share him with me anytime you want. So that's why I started doing it. I got developed a little relationship. I'd never met him at the time, but I would, you know, just do messenger mostly. And then I got scantiverse and I would start sending him stuff with scantiverse over. And he would, and he would be like, oh, it's got potential. If he said it's got potential, I knew it was a good one. But we did get to meet him one time, which was, it kind of changed everything. We got to meet him at the great Florida Bigfoot Conference a few years ago. And he brought, he came over, he came over to our table and he's looking at our, our cast and he's like, he's like, these are from Florida. I say yes, sir. He's like, he was hold on and he walks over to his booth and he came back with this. Comes back over with the gray harbor. Oh, yeah. And I'm like, okay, where's this going? You know, any put it up to our cast and he was like showing how similar the heels and a lot of the other stuff and all about three casts that are like very similar in size compared to the heel. You know, they're not, this is what you get in Florida substrate. But there's one. This one is, I did a 3D scan of this one and it is almost identical to that print. Wow. You can see the big toe pad. It's kind of a weird print. We got this out of sugar sand, but you can see the big toe pad up here. Yeah, it's kind of hard to see. But it's the same size as that toe and everything on it is almost exactly the same. Just a lot uglier looking because of the, because of the ground it was cast in. Right. This was that a sugar sand. So he came over and like, he's like, here, you know, you can take this and because he was surprised at how he didn't think they were that big in Florida either. So that was like proof to him that these things aren't changing how big they are throughout the country. I think they change how much they weigh. I think that changes because I mean, you can't be as heavy masked as you are up north. You don't need it here. You know, I don't think it, I don't think their muscle structure changes. I don't think their height changes. I think they're just more like lean, you know. And personally, that's what we think. Absolutely. The scan of verse app is something that comes up every once in a while. And I've heard it when I talked to Cliff, he will recommend it as well. It sounds like you've used it more than a few times. Do you have any advice as of, you know, things you need to make sure that you do in order to get a good 3D scan using that? It's not going to, you can get a scan without service, but it's not, so you can still get your scan without service, but you're going to have to wait till you get service to process it and make it work. So it'll just kind of stay there and you can come back. So don't think just because you don't have service, you can't use it because you can't. But you can get it. You'll just kind of stay there till you have service and then you can process it and go through it. And it works better in low and not direct sunlight. Like if you have bright, bright light on a print, it doesn't pick it up that good. It's almost better in like sunlight was shade, like a shade, like a shadowy area. So if you can have someone kind of cast a shadow, block the sun, then do your scan and take your time. Take your time with it and roll it. Just roll them. That's right. I just kind of go, I roll them as I go. And it gets it all the way through. You know? Oh, so you're not just holding it flat above. You're making sure that you get all the corners, the edges and the different parts. I go down into the toes. I roll it down into the toes and roll it out. Just like you were following the every contour of the foot. It's pretty much how I do it. That's really good to know. Yeah, I'd never thought of that aspect of it. I'm just going to ask that something for me to learn and try next time I go out there. But my goodness. So really, I mean, this one area, I already know that it is a super active area from talking to Marie a few times. Were you also with Marie when she went out to the Pacific Northwest? Yes. Yeah. Do you have any, any things that you remember from that trip, any interesting memories or things that you experienced by going out there? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. It was, it was a different world. That's it's for sure. You took a bunch of Florida people and David Shealey went with us. Oh, man. You got all these, you know, you got me and David going out to the middle of the Pacific Northwest. We were lost. We were like, where are we at? You know, like, and it was cool though. It was such an adventure. Christina came also. She was kind of just getting in. I don't think she was part of the group yet. She was just my girlfriend at the time. But Marie and all of them knew her very well. And shortly after, I think she became part of the group. But we had a blast up there. But we blew everybody away up there. William Beeson, like, he was like, like, we went out and like, the first day, he couldn't go with us. They gave us a Jeep to use. So we go out, you know, we're from Florida. You know, we ain't scared or nothing. So I'm walking around with just a booey knife like I do in the woods here. And we go up and we find bear prints and we find all kinds of stuff. But we actually found a footprint too. We found a really, really nice footprint. David found it. And then we found more later, but David found a really nice 17 is footprint going up beside of the mountain. You can see the way it's the way it's the ball of its foot had like a big bunion. Oh, man. And when it when it moved to go up the hill, it twisted and you can see it. It's so clear how it went up. It was a really cool print. Was that over north of Spokane or was that Olympic peninsula? Meddling falls. Yeah. Okay. By the cold, cold, cold, cold, for us, type of, yeah, up up in the cold, village, forest area, but we were walking around that whole day by ourselves. And then William Beeson came out with us. The next day, he wanted to take us up to this up the mountain to this private, or this hidden lake that's up there where they've had a lot of stuff happen. And so we get up there and we get out of the Jeep and he gets out and he goes to the back. And he grabs on his hip. He's got a, like a 50 cal on his hip. Then he grabs a freaking AR puts in. I'm like, holy cow, go on, William, he's like our bill. He's like, he's like Mike. We have 200 pound wolves, we have 1000 pound grizzlies. And I'm like, what? I was like, you just let me walk around this whole place yesterday with a knife. I mean, that's true. Holy cow, dude. So that was, it was pretty funny. He is an awesome guy. They were, they were, that was a phenomenal trip. We got to meet Thomas Seward over in this place where he was staying. And we got to sign the foot. Oh, nice. The foot of famous foot. Yep. Exactly. Now, that was cool. You had said earlier that you actually learned some interesting things from, from Tom when you were talking to him. Is that anything? Are you able to share any of the things that he, he taught you? Yeah. No, he just, he just, he's, he's funny. He cracks me up, man. Like, he's so forward. He's like silly white man. It just cracks me up. And he's like, like the things he said, though, made sense. He's like, how would you feel if someone just came into your backyard, opened up your back door to your house, came in and sat down on your couch while you were sitting there watching TV? Would you be pissed? I'm like, yeah, I would. Absolutely. He told, respect him. He said, respect him. Show them respect and you'll get respect back. And I started doing that. So every time I walk into the forest now, that, that same area or gifting area, I learned their sounds. I learned a lot of sounds from that area. And by myself, spending time out there, I learned a lot of different sounds. And I never got scared out there. That, that was an area I never felt any type of fear when I was there by myself. And, but, but I would hear, so I started noticing when I first started going in there, you would hear the barbell call, the, woo-hoo-hoo. Well, it'd be no matter what time of day you went, you'd hear, woo-hoo-hoo-hoo. And then you'd hear it two more times in the distance, woo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo. And another side, woo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo. They'd do it twice every time, twice. And it wasn't barbells, it was them. That's there, they're, they're minicom. And they're, that's their, their, their letting you know. Someone's here, someone's here, woo-hoo-hoo-hoo. Someone's here. And then you'd be out in the forest, you're walking around. And I started hearing just one, woo-hoo-hoo. And you'd hear another one out in the distance, woo-hoo-hoo. And then another one, woo-hoo-hoo. Like, they just little subtle things, but they're communicating. They're letting you know where they're at. And then I've never, I've heard tree knocks and I've heard some things, but I haven't experienced it probably as much as some people have. I mean, I've heard tree knocks. But I'm kind of on the, on the same way Thomas told me, he's like tree knocks are, are to tell you to leave. So all these people run around doing tree knocks, banging trees and stuff. I don't personally go into that. I never really did. I did a little bit, but after talking to Thomas, I really stopped doing it. And he said, that's, that's them telling you, whack, get out of my area, whack. You know, like, and it kind of makes sense when you walk into a place. And I kind of go by that a little bit. Now I don't, I don't really whack trees. But I do make my sound. And that's my sound copying what they do. But now they know that's my sound. And everywhere I've gone into, I've established that sound when I come into the, I go into going to a new area. I'm just, whew, you know, and I, and I don't have any issues. I talk to them when I'm in the woods now. I'm like, hey guys, I'm here with my family or I'm here with a friend. I want to come into your forest. We're not here to hurt you. I'm not a hunter. You know, I talk everywhere I go now. And believe it or not, I mean, it completely makes that, if you go into an area and you start feeling that pressure, like, oh my God, like something's close to me. I'm getting a little nervous. I'm starting to get kind of scared, that feeling, start talking to them. Hey, I'm not here to hurt you. I'm not a hunter. I'm sorry. You know, is it okay if we come forward? Is it okay? If it's not, let me know. Make a sound, do something. And usually you feel that calm down. And you're like, oh, I don't feel threatened anymore. And like that threatening feeling just goes away. It's kind of incredible. Wow, that is, and that is wild, man. Oh my goodness. Have you ever asked for a response and gotten something? I wouldn't say I've asked for it and got it. I've done it. I would love to get to that. I've asked, hey, can we see you? And, but I've had a lot of things, I've had a lot of responses to my sounds, but I haven't had a response to that. I haven't had direct take. And I, can you make a sound and then make a sound? But my son will go out there and if he's out, they love him. And he'll go out and he'll, it's one one time he got scared because they came in so close to him. They wanted to come see him. I think the little ones did. He was out there who, and then he'd hear, for 30 minutes, this went on. And they get one came up and it hood about, I don't know, maybe 20 yards, 20 miles, 30 feet away from us. And he started crying, all right, that's how I want to go, I want to go. But it wasn't, I was like, well, you're out here making sounds that wanted to see what was going on, you know? That's fat. It is absolutely fascinating how young children can play into or almost really attract bigfoot activity. And that's a whole discussion in itself. But we're kind of talking about that before the episode started. And do you mind talking a bit about the, the Legend Seekers Florida series that is starting to be a development? Yeah. Yeah, no, not at all. So I'm a big believer, RPGs, a big believer, Daniel Barnett, we're a big believer that there's something with being on the spectrum. Absolutely. That is being a narrow divergent person. I'm extremely ADHD. And my superpower is, I can go in and tell you who the bad guy is in the room. I can, I feel everything. I'm, you know, I'm empathetic. I feel everything. Like I can tell you when something's going on, I'm super aware of everything. My son's like that. He's ADHD really bad and he's selective mutism. So Kaylon, just like Daniel Barnett, selective mutism. And what that is is they didn't speak to, they had selective people to brain would let them talk to. It's a legit deal as part of the autism scale. And my son, he didn't talk to, he was three and a half years old. And that's what's really awesome. Because if you see our videos together now and you hear him talking and he got on stage with me now in front of 2,000 people, I'll get in that a minute. But like this kid literally had such a hard start. He three and a half years old before he started talking. He would only hum. Like I love you. He'd go, mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. He would only hum stuff. And so that was the first hurdle. He got past that. He started talking. But his motor skills were 98% time. Access to affordable credit helps me pay my employees that I don't really need it. Infliction is killing me. What do cares? Big retailers and making record profits. That's why we support the Durban Marshall credit card bill. See, things in credit unions help small businesses make payroll. This bill would cut the vital resources they need. And it helps me pay my employees that I don't really need it. Infliction is killing me. But who cares? Big retailers and making record profits. 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While increasing Megastore profits. They deserve it. Don't they? Tell Congress, stop the Durban Marshall Money Grab for corporate megastores. Paid for it by the Electronic Payments Coalition. He was walking at eight months old, he was running at nine months. But he didn't talk till he was three and a half years old. Doctor said he maybe just didn't want to. Fast forward a little bit. When he started talking, then it was only to me and mom. We didn't think he'd think of it at first. But as he got older, he started school. And it continued. He would not talk to a teacher. He didn't talk to a teacher until he was in fourth grade almost. Oh wow. Didn't talk. And kids would mess with them and pick on them. And they knew that he wouldn't say anything. So he would have to get, he got them fights with kids. Because he would, he would lash out instead of, instead of, because he didn't talk. He couldn't tell a teacher that they were being mean. He just eventually had enough. But we'd find them underneath desk hiding, underneath tables, crying and hiding. And he didn't know how to communicate. He didn't talk. He would only talk to us. But coach, when he played football, he would only talk to us. Same thing with Daniel Barnett, where he could talk to his dad. And that's what he went through. And we joke and we say that Sasquatch Bigfoot, they healed them. Because they both had their lives changed by going out in the field doing this. In the presence of these things. Where we have found evidence and where we've been at with these things. Something's different with my kid now. He's, there's, it's gone. There is no more selective mutism. It's gone. He doesn't, he's the most normal talkative, chatty kid you've ever seen. And now like we just did a, you'll see it coming out on Friday. We just did an interview with Stacy Brown. We just did his show. And so that's Friday. That's coming out. We've been on Brian King's Sharps on Sasquatch Odyssey. And together. And he's awesome. He sits, he asks some questions. I'll talk to you. This was a kid who didn't talk. He got on stage with me at the conference in front of 2,000 people and talked. So anyway, because of that, him and Daniel got that. Got that in common. And RPG and Daniel and Chris, they came up with legend seekers. And what they're trying to do is it's an angle of getting more family and oriented show in the Sasquatch Bigfoot research. And RPG lives only about 45 minutes from me, 30, 45 minutes. And his children and my children are really good friends. They become really good friends with each other. And we've been going out filming with each other. And we're going to be doing a legend seekers. It's going to be a docu series on on YouTube. It's on the legend seekers network. And it's going to be a Florida version that they're going to do. And then after each episode, they do legend seekers uncut. So we just did one of those today. And that was me, Christina and Christina's daughter Kate. Because we had a recent experience happen. I'll tell you about in a minute. But so we're just really excited about it. That I mean, no, if you've seen my Bigfoot life, they're really good with how they did it. And they want to try and do something with Kaylyn, kind of like a legend seekers version of my Bigfoot life too, to let the world know about him. It's awesome, man. Like they're really good people. They're phenomenal people. And then for them to want to do that with my son is really cool. You know? And get the lets we're doing this as a family and still finding things. And actually we're finding more. We're having more things happen, which is what I can go into now if you want me to. I can tell you about what just happened with me and my family, which is freaking awesome. Yeah. And definitely want to hear about that. I do want to comment on on something that you said a few minutes ago where. And it's just a weird pattern that comes up in interviews where people have. Some sort of interaction and they are changed in different ways. And you brought up how your son was changed in this way. There's also people that have been healed in different ways or have different abilities come out. Ranging from being more aware of their area or even telepathy. And it's just it's such an interesting pattern that I'm starting to to notice. And I'm not quite sure where it all is going to lead. But I would love to hear more about what you guys have just experienced recently as a family. And just follow what you said, like I don't know 100% I don't understand it. But these things really enjoy good positive energy around them. Oh, yeah. They pick up on I believe that they are they're good. And I believe that they pick up like like animals, all right? Like animals pick up on good people, good energy. Some animals, they don't want to if you're not a good person, they don't want to be around you. And I think they're the same way. I think they really pick up on it. And when I'm in the forest with my family is the happiest time of my life. I'm with a woman I love. I'm with my kids. They're laughing, having fun. We're exploring. We've started into this like giant scavenger hunt. We're trying to find footprints. And my daughter is starting to pick up on it now too. She's seven Kylie. And so Kayle and Kylie are my kids. And so Kylie's coming up behind Kayle and now she's tired of being left out. She's like, Dad, I want to go out more. And so I've been taking her. She's the cutest thing ever. She goes in the forest. She's like, big for I love you. I'm sorry. She's the cutest thing. She leaves them little gifts every time we go out. So we, I moved. Me and Christina got a house and we went from Pasco County up to to her and O County, which is close to Brooksville, Florida. And there's this area has like the main corridor. The main corridor that runs up the west side of Florida from basically. Wiki Watchy area all the way up through the panhandle. It's one giant corridor. That's where that corridor stops there and connects over to all the corridors that connect to the green swamp. Through the corridor that goes through where I was having my stuff happen. And all that connects into the Hillsborough River. It's all one big connecting circle that if you wanted to, you could never be seen. And it's really, really cool how it works when you pay attention to it. But anyway. So now that I'm up here, I haven't got to go to that other area where I had all this crazy stuff happen. So I've been focusing over here. I've been meeting other people. And I met a guy named Mike Noga. And he had a class A citing at a cemetery out here. And we started talking and my friend Frank Middleton, I don't know if you ever met Frank Middleton or not. I talked to Frank quite a bit. Yes. Yeah, Frank's awesome. He has a great guy. Frank, Frank. Yeah. And so I've got to go out with Frank and Mike a couple times. And we've, we've, we've, we've, uh, in front of mine, you'll hear about my kind of eventually, I promise you. He's got the thirst for it. You know what I mean? Like he's a young researcher that's really starting to have a lot of things happen. So we go out of this area and I went into another part of the area, way from his a little bit where I was like, if I'm something, this is where I'd be. And we started finding a lot of cool things. Let me go fast forward. We, me and Christina and her two kids the other night, we're like, let's just go for a Jeep ride. We're bored. We had nothing to do as a Friday night. So we take the Jeep and to get into this area where we wanted to go trail ride, you really probably aren't allowed to be there, but there's a trail to get in if you know how to go. If you have a Jeep, you can get in there. You couldn't get in there with a truck, but I have a Jeep small enough to get in. So that's what I did. I pulled in and came down, that's like a four wheeler trail basically. And I came in and I started to go, you gotta go down the hill. And it's through an area that's been mined. Like they mined right through the middle of it. I don't know how many years ago, 100 years ago, I don't know. So you go, start going down the road. There's a limestone road that got through it. And as we came over the hill, we were there 15 seconds. And I was not filming and I kicked myself for this. It was about eight o'clock. We start going down the hill. And you know how your high beams or your how your beams project ahead. If you're about to go down the hill. So if the hill's like this, and your Jeep's coming like this, you're hitting up high. Right. Well, I got the ride about here and I saw these two eyeballs this bit and that far apart. And it was about five foot off the ground. Bam, I stopped. I went, oh my, everybody, all of us in the Jeep went, oh my, and it's just these giant eyeballs. Bright, greenish yellow, bam. And I'm like, oh my, and it went and looked this way, looked back and then it stood up three foot taller. I'm like, oh my, we're watching this thing and it just goes, and her daughter goes, oh my, and then it looked away this way, looked back again, put his head down and took three funky steps and was in the little forest gone. And wow. And I'm here, can't go, can't go. I said, okay, did you see that? She's like, his eyes were so bright. And she goes, did you see the deer? And I'm like, oh, I didn't even notice there were deer there because I was so focused on him. She said there were two deer, two smaller green eyes behind it, about 10 yards behind it. He was hunting. We think he was hunting and he was behind this big tree. As we came over the hill, he was right there at the tree, he's crunched down because he was like this looking, you know, at the deer and he turned his head like that. And that's when he turned and then he stood up. It was like, oh, so. Oh, good. It was, it was so awesome. Like, I don't know if you, I have a little video I put out and it's just the video of us being excited. Like, we're so excited. Like a little kid. I was like, I'm sorry I blinded you. It was awesome. Like the whole family, Christina said she looked and was like, she said she blinked, like a long blink and opened her eyes and it was still there. Like this is real. Because she had not had a real encounter. She had things falling. She's been in the woods. We've had a lot of weird stuff happen, but that was there and it was no taking it back. You know, it was there and that was really cool. That's what we talked about today on the, the legend seekers is we, we all three were on there talking about what just happened with that. Oh, that's exciting stuff. It was, it was so cool. Well, three days later, three days later, all right. My son and my daughter are jealous. They're so jealous that they didn't get to see that. And I picked them up. They had a day off on Monday. There was a some, some holiday. And last Monday it was two Mondays ago. This was just last week, a week before. And so that happened Friday, Saturday Sunday, the Monday I picked them up. We had just enough time. I'm like, hey, all right, on the way home, let's go out there. I'll take you guys out. We go drive around a little bit. Go check out and we'll check the gifting spots. And you know, I wanted to put some apples out and put some different things out in this area and start trying to make it friendly. So I take him over there. We walk up to, to where it's at, where we saw him. And there's another little area I went in. And there's a game trail back there. And I found footprints on the game trail. They weren't huge. They were not the ones that matched him. But they were definitely footprints. And there was four of them in a row. My daughter was like, well, I see one too. Like we're following this foot. I got it on like we did a little video. I was like, we're following the footprints, you know? And I made a cast. I came back and made the cast. It was this one. See how good the toes are. Oh, wow, yeah. Okay. So I made it, it was on a rock. This was a rock that it was on top of. But the toes were awesome on it. And so there was, this was the best one to get. So I made that cast. Well, I called Christine. I'm like, hey, I don't have any plaster, but we found some footprints. Can you come meet us? She's like, yeah, I'll come meet. So she came, it's 15 minutes from our house. And she came and met me and I made the cast. And like, let's go for a little hike while it's, you know, while the cast, the plaster is drying. So now I'm with my son and my daughter and her. And we go down this little horse trail that goes back through these hills. And as I'm coming back, it's getting like, 30, maybe 20 minutes for we four dark. And I got a little turned around. And I missed my turn where I wanted to go. So I'm like, shoot, I'm looking at my GPS. I'm like, we gotta go straight this way. We're just gonna go through the woods, guys. Let's just do it, you know? So we went off trail straight through the woods. And I ended up in this little valley. It went up a hill and down into this little valley. And it was for four to 60 foot down into a valley is very rare. You don't have stuff like that. And we're walking into this valley and I just froze. Dude, it was five and a half foot tall standing on the right hand side of the trail. Just standing there. And it took one, two, three steps and went to all four. And it hit, it was, it never missed a beat. I stopped, oh my God. And he just went, he was 20 yards away. Access to affordable credit helps me pay my employees. But I don't really need it. Infliction is killing me. What do cares? Big retailers are making record profits. That's why we support the Durban Marshall credit card bill. See, things in credit unions help small businesses make payroll. And this bill would cut the vital resources they need. While increasing Megastore profits. They deserve it, don't they? Tell Congress, stop the Durban Marshall money grab for corporate megastores. Paid for it by the electronic payments coalition. This episode is brought to you by Speaker, the platform responsible for a rapidly spreading condition known as podcast brain. Symptoms include buying microphones you don't need, explaining our SS feeds to confused relatives. And saying things like, sorry, I can't talk right now. I'm editing audio. 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His hair was jet black, and it looked like he had been blow dried and brushed. It was perfect, like almost like a sheen to it. It was beautiful. And he freaking, my son saw it, and my son didn't see him go to, didn't see him go to all fours. He just saw him moving, because when it hit the grass, it didn't stop. It was, I didn't, it was so natural for that thing to go to all fours, and it was like, it hit another gear. And he went through, piling through the bushes. Pah, pah, pah, pah. Christina never saw it, my daughter never saw it, because we were in line with each other, and it just was crossing, right? In front of us, you know, she'd make it here, but they never to see it, the way he was running up. It, my son, I pick him up as he's running off, and my son can see his head and his back, and then it goes to two legs and goes back up the hill, back to two legs, and goes up, and was gone. Like, oh my God, that just happened. Like, it was blown away. We just watched a young Sasquatch go running in front of us, and like, I've never seen anything move the way that thing moved. I've never seen something so well maintained and beautiful. Like, this thing was beautiful. Like, I was blown away. My goodness, and that just happened within the last few weeks, you're saying. Yes, we've had, and so that had just happened, a week and a half ago, that just happened. And it was three days apart from the eye shine, and about three days before that eye shine, we had another quick eye shine. Like, as I was pulling down that same road that it take you in, something walked out, and went back in like that, it was quick. So it wasn't like a hundred percent. Like, I know I saw eyes. They were yellow screen again. I was like, dude, I just saw something, but it was like that. This was we watched it for 15 seconds doing this, you know? And then this thing crossed in front of us. It was like what everybody dreams to see. And I wasn't filming. Wow. I mean, that's, yeah, that is usually what happens. Yeah. Yeah. I have since bought a body camera. And I've gone into that area. I actually went in there yesterday, and I just put some stuff up in there. I put some apples in there. My secret is Reese's. Reese's peanut butter cups. They love Reese's peanut butter cups. Once they get a taste for them, they want them. And I can't wait to find out what's going to be back in there. Cause I feel like we're going to see it again. It would be really interesting if you figure out a way to do kind of how Scott Carpenter was doing how he had the camera on his back as he's walking through the area. And he was getting a lot of interesting things. I know Harley Owens does this too. And it's Eastern Tennessee, but I'm sure it would the same thing would work in Florida. And you would might even get some treepeakers or who knows what'll show up, you know? I actually have, I have quite a few. I have a lot. I'm going to start sharing them and you'll see them pop up. Cause I'm going to start putting on my content out there again for my channel. So it can be seen. I have a lot of blurry pictures. And they're exactly from doing that. But what I was doing was I would be walking and the more I would walk around, I would, I would, I would hear and things behind me, you know? And I realized that every time I picked my phone up and was recording, they would start following behind me crunch, crunch, crunch. You know, I'd hear little things. So I realized that they don't know what this thing is in my hand, but it distracts me. So that's when they would be moving. So what I started doing was instead of filming for us, filming behind me. So I was holding my phone, but I was filming behind me. And I could actually see as I'm walking. And I started, I'd say thing. I started getting things and I'd go back and what I don't understand is how can you not see something and then go back and look at your video and see it later, which is mind-boggling to me. How should just not be there and then see it on a video. It'll also be amazing. As you start to put up, you know, footage you've taken on your YouTube channel. And the cool thing about that is, you know, you just throw stuff up and people will start to, you know, it happens in mind too, where they're like, Oh, did you notice the thing in the background at like 30 minutes in and like, Oh, when I'm talking about you, check it out. And like, yes, the same thing that happens is this got Carpenters channels. Like you get thousands of eyes on it and people start to notice things. It's very cool. You crowd source the investigation of the footage. But, you know, Mike, it has been just a fantastic conversation with you. And thank you so much for sharing what you have experienced over the years, your growth in the way that you are now an investigator. It is a fascinating story. I appreciate it, man. Thank you a lot. You know, it's awesome. It's been a cool ride and getting to do it with my family. It just makes that much more, you know, and mid Florida, like we've become an amazing group, you know, and we're that way because of our different angle. I mean, we have kids. We take kids out and we have women. You got one guy, a couple guys and mostly women and we, you know, we take groups of people out and take, I've taken groups of 40 people into the middle of the Everglades. I might, you know, 40 people leading the way into the middle of the Everglades. And we take kids camping. We do all, we do stuff that not many people do and we don't pay for it. We just pay for what it costs to be at the spot, you know, and we have a blast. Usually me and Christina take our kids, we go our way with the kids in our group and Marie takes the other group and she does her thing with the adults and we kind of split them. And we have a blast. Like we have an absolute blast doing it. And it's, you know, it's given us and we're finding legit evidence while spinning time with our families and getting other people involved. That's what's awesome. Which is such a cool combination. And I know I wish there was, I wish there was more of that. I think it's great that you guys are doing that. And hopefully that catches on, especially with the, the, the legend seekers series that that is going to be coming out. But would you mind if you'd be able to take a few minutes, how people can, you know, keep up to date with what you guys are doing through your organization down there in Florida and maybe, you know, contact you if they would like and things like that. Yeah. Well, my personal information is on my Facebook page and my Facebook page is turned into my Squatch page. It's a Squatch and FL and it's under my regular, but it's, I just had it listed a Squatch and FL and all my contact information is on there. My email, my phone number is even on there. Um, mid Florida, we have all different kind of ways to find that the contact is me or Marie, you know, Marie Dumont or that's really the two you would contact is me or her. Um, we have a mid Florida website, mid Florida Facebook page, messenger. Anyway, you want to find it. I have a YouTube channel now that I've been, I'm actively trying to grow. And that's the same thing. Squatch and FL. And, um, that's the best way to get in touch with this. And we're going to be putting a lot of stuff out. Um, I, I mean, we work hard, we work real hard. Um, I think personally, we maybe we put more legit stuff out there than just about any group or any people do. I mean, we, because we were out a lot and we find a lot, you know, and to find a lot, you got to be out a lot. This episode is brought to you by speaker, the platform responsible for a rapidly spreading condition known as podcast brain symptoms include buying microphones. You don't need explaining our SS feeds to confused relatives and saying things like, sorry, I can't talk right now. I'm editing audio. If this sounds familiar, you're probably already a podcaster. The good news is speaker makes the whole process simple. You record your show, upload it once and speaker distributes it everywhere. People listen, Apple podcasts, Spotify, and about a dozen apps. Your cousins swears are the next big thing. Even better, speaker helps you monetize your show with ads, meaning your podcast might someday pay for well, more microphones. Start your show today at speaker.com. Speaker, because if you're going to talk to yourself for an hour, you might as well publish it. And that's what we're doing and it's awesome. And, you know, we love it. It's become, it has become our, if I'm not with Marie and the group, she's with, she's with, with Bob or somebody else and they're doing something over here in a different area in Florida, me and Christina are with over here. Ruby, she's over here in her place. We may not all be together, but we're all out almost every weekend somewhere. Which is incredible. Or yeah, right now, right right now, I live, I live 15 minutes away. So it's easy for me to go in almost daily sometimes and just go in for an hour, two hours, walk around, check out things. That's what I've been doing. That's why I've been finding so much. Oh my goodness, Mike is such a cool story. We will definitely be keeping up to date with what you guys are getting into next and following along with the channel and the organization down there. But thank you so much for taking some time out of your night and coming on the show today. I really do appreciate it. Yeah, you know, if you, if you ever want to have another conversation later, check up with us. Maybe I could have my son come on. You'll get a kick out of having him. You would have a blast having him talk to him. He's awesome. He's not your average little 11 year old. He's awesome. Absolutely. That's yeah, that sounds that sounds great. Thank you so much, Mike. Yes, sir. Have you ever heard all the accounts of big-foot activity around Oak Ridge, Oregon? And you think to yourself, man, I would love to get out in those woods and experience it for myself. Well, guess what? This year, you can. If this is interesting to you, stay tuned because it's pretty cool. Sasquatch Summer Fest is coming up July 10th through the 11th, 2026. It's going to be even better than the previous years. Reason number one, I'll be one of the speakers. It's going to be wild. I'll probably, I'll say this. There may be stuff you haven't heard anywhere else because let's just say sometimes it's, well, you just got to be there. We'll leave it that. More about looking for big-foot in the Oak Ridge woods. Now check this out. You may know Jason Kenzie from his documentary series, Searching for Sasquatch. Well, this year, you can not only go to the festival, but you can also sign up for a track deep in the Wild Forest outside of Oak Ridge with Jason Kenzie to the big-foot spots to look for big-foot. There's only eight spots to sign up for this. And yes, this will also be filmed for the next chapter in his documentary series, which is searching for Sasquatch. This is a once in a lifetime deal. It's just, it's going to be a wild, wild experience. To get a ticket head on over to SasquatchSummerFest.com and listeners can use the code BSP, like big-foot society podcast, in order to get a two-day pass for the price of a one-day pass. So thanks to Priscilla for giving me that code so that you guys can can get a little help with the cost there. Appreciate that Priscilla. I hope to see you at the booth in Oak Ridge this year. We can talk about your encounter. I was able to talk to so many people last year and the year before it is an incredible time. You're not going to want to miss it. And I'll see you there. Before we wrap this episode, I want to say something directly to a very specific group of listeners. If you're in the military, any branch, or forces, and if you've seen something that no one can explain, or if you're a national park ranger or forestry worker who's been told to stay quiet, if you're a pilot who's seen something strange down on the ground, or if you're with the FBI, a federal agency, or working intelligence, and you stumbled upon something you're not allowed to talk about, and if you're a firefighter, paramedic, or search-and-rescue responder, who's heard screams or found tracks that didn't make sense, if you're in the logging industry on a remote oil field or a trucker with government contracts, and you've had something happen that you've never told a soul. And if you're a biologist, a wildlife specialist, or a field researcher under contract, who has found evidence, you're not allowed to report. If you're a pastor, a missionary, or someone on a spiritual retreat, and you saw something that shook your faith, or if you work in the shadows, CIA, NSA, or anything with clearance, and you've seen with the public hasn't, then I want to talk to you. Even if it's anonymous, you can reach me at Bigfootsocietyatgmail.com. The world needs to hear what you've been forced to carry alone, and you're not alone. You've got the story. We've got the mic. See you in the woods. Thank you for listening to this episode of The Bigfoot Society podcast. Every encounter we share reminds us that the world is bigger and stranger than we think, and that the truth is often hiding just beyond the tree line. If you enjoyed this episode, please be sure to subscribe to the channel on YouTube, hit the bell so you don't miss the next episode, and share this with a friend who's into mysteries, monsters, or the unexplained. 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