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It's just a good thing. 又从我们一条流量的经验来讲 就从来没有说质感是跟流量有违背的 我们说又美又爆 因为你今天争夺眼球 你的质感本身也是争夺眼球的 一条嘛 你看这个我觉得一条就算是很好的试出来了 您拍的东西本来就它就必须有质感 对吧 每一个房子 每一个这种人的谈吐 对 我们可能跟优务化相有关系 比如我们就是比较面向比如说 总产的这波人的 我觉得是必须有质感 但是您说这个比如人家在做这些创始IP就这个问题你要用我来操作我就会去试 是哪一种方法 就比如我我其实自己也会弄就是比如这个短视频我同事剪一条这样的然后他们就打光弄一条 然后我就会弄几条自拍的我就都发出来 OK 我明白你意思 你就感受嘛你们自己感受 所以其实慢慢的来慢慢下来我现在拍摄的时候已经很少有这种打光啊 户警的东西 因为慢慢发现就是没必要 这个我觉得是两说 就是看你的品牌的定位跟受众的定位 而且他基本上他不能测试 就是你要么就是说我就是打光的 我就这个里面跟那种比如说 品牌的定位跟客单价有关系 比如我们现在服务的肯定是服务那些生活明少 跟我们同频的 是是是 像你这个比如说我是这个是独立服装的 我就一定是打光的 在打光的情况下 我就是追求那种故事也讲得很好 它是有流量的 就你的受众一看 Oh! This company is this. If I don't want any of $88 in such a brand. 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Then I want you to write it down like 25 to 40,000. The difference between the top of the assign and the return you will value on the app. I don't really have a problem except when Blake strategic sales So we have nice Fey Michael-ğı You really need a realvrebbe. I didn't know that. Is that there? I don't believe this world without smallol If it's a high world can be high If a peer did an audio It's easy to do It's easy to 舒适的日子不是很难 你就是做过生意 做过IP 在这个箱比较起来 小安美的生意是非常非常艰难的 当然我们说的小安美是指 它本身有品牌 它本身有基础 然后它现在上网络 它做好一个小安美账户 它比较开始五个店都要来得快 而且是有上升空间 它做到比如说几个亿 然后毛利率很高 这是完全可以想象的 而且比以前的那种模式要轻很多 它容易调整吧 That's a lot of people. We're now 150 people. We're training for a person IP. We're trying to do this. We're trying to do art. So I can understand. We're trying to do this. And then do training. We're trying to do this. What's the business? I'm trying to do this. I'm trying to do this. I'm trying to do this. I'm trying to do this. That's what we need to do. So we can change the mode. It's a good thing. I'll do a good thing. I'll do a good thing. Then we'll be able to make a good thing. The price is less than the price. Because I use the content. I'm not going to sell the content. It doesn't mean that it's the only way. It can be used to other ways. It can be able to do a good thing. You can sell the money. It's not the best for you. Now you can do a good thing. I can do a good thing. You just want to shoot our video. 那你要说看那個М file that's tunnelun.外面有的是公司做that's garbage. Like price is its,озм кораб is it. 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It means that this persona, so no matter if not.以前肯定是完全无法忍受但现在就没有那么大的那么强的问题你现在直播就是完全在小红书播吗小红书有时候在淘宝有时候也会在淘宝不会在其他平台去播没有没有这方面的计划你现在一个月播几次我上次看你在邓文涛节目里面说一个月播三四次对很少那还是非常少非常客气很少也不是客气就是有别的事很多人就天天播您是不是还没试过我试过 I think I'm a little bit more. It's pretty good. I'm a good person. If I look for a video of a video, I'm looking for a video of a video. I'm a pretty quick one of the things. I'm a little bit more. Then I'm going to talk about it. I'm going to talk about it. It's like you're a copy of the copy. We need to find a way to keep it. I don't care about it. I'm going to go with this method. I'm going to go with it. I'm not a single person.就您服务的客户我们基本上还是我的粉丝就您服务过的这些人其实就像我们聊天还挺好的你那个姓我们同事很好奇姓是真的就是自来来姓没有那个的上去看一个娘一姐姐那个叫什么这个都是只能自然来小宇宙很好我觉得你们也很适合小宇宙但是你要很长因为我们都是短视频的形式但是我聊天本身那个是很长其实您做很长的内容应该是很容易的 Oh I LO soul76 sector And it's a little bit whole. Lead week on the start, that would you have a very low performanceART, which would help you to get warned. We can Ahod at IP people's course, or be Voldemort. 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Maybe for the constructers, including the manufacturerрост ground types of foodстр boys, which is also an option for them to support the Misterbos, was a good cause for a gu ball, 夹机啊 汽车啊 很正常啊 我自己的体感 我也是用了这些 我看你上次好像有个广告是夸克直入 对吧 对 我最近接的就是山姆超市 其实不就很合吗 跟一条的用户应该 融合度应该非常多 多个渠道总是好的 我们主要是说那种 确实讲播客应该还是 整个舆论环境应该还是比较干净的 因为它这个东西 逻辑很简单 你愿意花一个多小时听的人 他就天然 他就是我就说高注意力用户 这些注意力很高的人 他心态就peace一点 他没有那么想跟你吵两句 他都听都听了一个多少时 然后说我不喜欢你们的品牌给念 那也很奇怪 我们后来发现就是 我的这个视频播出来之后 在视频号跟小红出了 基本上好评率还是占到98% 就没什么人说你 说很难听的话 后来发现就是 可能是我们的画面 他一打开 他就发现不是他看的 因为能还是有底线 他不把你的视频看完 他是不大会骂你的 哈哈哈哈 跟微博不一样 微博他几乎一秒钟就看到你的什么意思 视频他还是要花个三分钟五分钟 我发现我我我是很珍惜高注意力的朋友的 我的这些尊贵的消费者 你想他看影响直播一看看一个多少事 这些朋友他天然就比较 你那个平均停留市场应该超高了 对五个分钟嘛 我上次做六分钟 卖货为主大那个六分钟就很恐怖了 对对对 所以你就等于是自己在上海 and the only recent country I love to let your audience They are not jeżeli I'm-ing that is a company站 in the Jacobs I think we're very better Even the whole idea was very창 I am very Wow I was emotional and I'm afraid to use And I'm just not going to turn I don't really want to game I just get a phone Just pick it up I have on the next level我每次发给我我得试一下通过的就上然后每个都还要试一下所以其实你选过 我总要我其实在小红书播就慢慢的就发现时间长了 也就没有特别多闭技就那几个你们现在多少品啊 每次上我每次上我每次更新一个全新的面孔 lol 一个五辆页有什么好选的吗? 直接卖就可以了 现在搞定这个流量还是最难的事情 而且搞定自然流量 小红书视频的话就还好 还有自然流量 抖音其实也有 但是你一到商业转化挂个车就 就没有了 抖音其实就是没有 你在抖音做电商就是一直不停的投 而且我发现你算你RY 投流基本上你算不过他的当然人家也不用算人家设置一下就卡在那儿收就行了就是他的商业模式我们当时对我影响很大的就是我们有一次是一本叫中国传统社这本书也很好我知道那个书我们视频拍的也很好我的ROI做到了一笔175那你完蛋了我们想哇一万块钱广告卖175万的货那一百万的广告不是1.7然后我拿百分之比如说二三十哇五千万嘛过两小时就回到一笔 Yeah. 高流量,我们是搞不了。 只有你们这种孩子,听着听着你也搞不了。 都搞,是都可以搞,这个自然的爱,喜欢你的人还是能刷到你的。 你想卖东西就刷不到你,就这么简单的罗计,没啥。 人家也没有那么过分,就是人家身上的你都OK,你只要是在拍内容随便。 你要卖东西呢就得分平台,先分我脸。 so you基本上只有巨亏 微亏 跟威力三种选择威力都很难做到我上一次听到这个普遍的抱怨是十几年前淘宝的用户们也这样抱怨就说淘宝现在没有自然流量了就是搜索排名它是那个逻辑也必须给阿里付费确实是让商家会不舒服了但是你站在他的角度那他做的本来就是这个生意 He's just a day. Maybe you can say that the new platform will be this day. Maybe you can say that the new platform will be this way. The best way to do is still have a new platform. It's a competition, it's always a chance to have a chance. I think it's a little bit more about the market. We've created this, it's always for every individual to have their own own. If you have a platform like us, you won't become a million people, or a thousand people. So that was別 ở I'm a jerk, who's out in the way, who's out in the way. Because he's not a good thing. He's not a good thing. He's not a good thing. Today, I think these things are pretty much better. But I think that's what we're doing. This is what we're doing. I think that's what we're doing. I'm talking about that. We're doing this video. It was a good thing. We didn't change our own. I think that's why we're doing this. I feel like it's a good thing. 另一方面呢,同行之间啊,我一直很佩服,我就特别想正好采访年也是跟我的观众朋友们吻直播嘛,然后又播客什么的,我写过一本工作手册,经常有人来问我怎么做自媒体,怎么抓住机会,现在就怎么取号,怎么变线,做人设,我觉得徐老师和一条,这个就是一个特别好的例子,就是一个这么长的生存的一个企业,其实从来没有投机过的. 但是每一波机会这不也没落下吗 也踩过坑 最大的坑是开店 只要还活着就穿越周期了 那不就是 其实我刚刚说就是那些问题 其实全部都是投机的问题 我就近视近视我发现 当然不是说只有自媒体这个领域 这也能好理解 大家其实生活压力很大 但是我的感受就是 往往你越是想投机 越是想求快 越想走捷径 就越会输得快 I always say that There are people who say that you already have to be able to get the chance You can't stand up and say it So I'm going to go to 10 hours I'm going to go to and sit there I'm going to go to and sit there I'm going to go to the next level But you can see them So many people, so many people That's hard I never heard a question I'm going to go to the next level I'm going to get the chance But you can see it 个人IP 这怎么说都是已经晚了不能再晚了 这不你们去看看他这100万粉丝了在视频号上 我的意思就是他稍微冷静一点稍微慢一点还真的会比较快 因为我们当时也请了一个顾问就是每个礼拜到我这里跟那就电商啊那些他来一次我付2万块他讲的全部因为这个没办法就是所有的成功案例都是小杨哥哥啊真的确实这些但是我就是那个时候就是我花了六个月的时间付了48万就是因为他是那个抖音出来的 Oh, your logic I probably heard. And then I got a question. This is not for me. I found this is not for us. You know, if you haven't, if you haven't, the channel is for the channel. You can't use it. It's not for the channel. It's like you're in the kind of the big company. Actually, I found that the channel is good. The value is good. It's also being manufactured by the 60 emissions from O.S. Like many of us would normally run for their brand. But today we used their social media as well the description it π 값 anyway with something you can俗注意 to the guerrilla that's something new. It can be made by the creators And depending on the video, you give back to real it's not platforms by some people in the high Preferences they Predator The effect of the product is to be used to be 100%. I found that it wasn't the best to do the internet. It's not the best to do the internet. We can't do it. We can't do it. How to do it. First, you don't want to do it. You don't want to do it. You don't want to do it. You don't want to do it. You don't want to do it. Why don't you do it? Why don't you think so? We have a lot of people. We also have a good idea of art, and we just talked about art. It was a good idea of art, and then we just said, and then we were talking about the敵人. And then we were talking about the video. It was a good idea. This is a good idea. I think it's a good idea. I think it's a good idea. I think it's a good idea. It's a good idea. So you don't have to worry about it. 品位是流量的敌人这句话有没有道理 我觉得还蛮有道理的 对 但是你本来就不是那样的人 让你去做流量的朋友 让你去跟品位为敌 你并不能嘛 我不是说这个品位高或者低 我只是说你肯定是一个 你本身就是一个比较个性的人 你就不是那种能人家爱看啥 你就能演啥的人 所以你就是有个性的人 你就为啥跟自己拧着来呢 又拧不动 你又拧不过 还不如顺着有个性的方法做一个东西 We were also in the same way. The other one was also in the same way. I was very interested in the book. I love it. I love it. I love it. I love it. I love it. I love it. I have a lot of money. First of all, I don't have to pay for it. I don't have to pay for it. I don't have to pay for it. 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Just change the way, change the mode, and they're going to talk about it. It's a very big impact. It's the last one. It's been a big deal. So, it's very hard. It's not a big deal. It's not a big deal. It's not a big deal. We'll look back to our own. We're really good to do a good product. It's a big deal. 我做这件事情 比如说复兴传统工艺也好 推广最好的设计也好 这个是它很核心的 很核心的 还是一直值得做的 这个叫改变世界的生意 和不被世界改变的生意 这个说法好 您这个就是一条在做的 就是不被世界改变的生意 这个词现在都已经可以改成 就是会被AI改变的生意 对不会被AI改变的生意 就像中国那么多的传统工艺 我们报道过很多 当然我们之前做的 商品就是所有的标品 精品这个模式不存在了 用平台用算法给你搞掉了 那种要把这故事讲好 这些东西后面很有道理很有故事 那其实我们的这个能力就很重要了 然后你要搞定传统的工艺 当代的设计 然后日用的这个属性 这个是我们这种可能 像我们这样的公司也不是很多 你有点审美 又能够通过传播搞定这批了 然后反过来把那种供应链搞定 这还挺起来的 我肯定是一个重度用户 Yeah we are making a lookup with a 42- Ces about accessible from technology types of and make sure to make sure to put them really oh i'm whether a then you further informed gambling started and started in the meantime you can see a lot maybe even Air Thank you for everything. I'm very sorry. I'm very sorry. 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There are many news. I think it's pretty good. I'm going to look at the news. It's a bit better. It's a bit better. It's a bit better. I'm going to look at the news. I'm going to look at the news. When I see the news, it's still there. It's not a bit better. I'm going to do it. I'm going to try to do it. I think I would recommend it for three years. It's a bit of a book. It's a bit of a book. There are some young people. There are some other books. There are some young people. It's a bit of a book. It's a bit of a book. But we have those old friends. They are expensive and high. They are expensive and high. They are expensive. They are all the same. I mean you can't get a picture and buy a few bucks. That's not a problem. It's already done a new job. It's a new job. It's a new job. It's a new job. They're very familiar. I've been doing some things. I'm pretty happy. I'm doing a job. It's a good job. It's a good job. They're not going to invest a lot of beer. I feel like they're doing a lot. I have a job, a job, a job. I have a question. Do you think you have any ideas for yourself? Do you have any ideas for yourself? Do you think you have any ideas for yourself? Do you think you can do it for a while? Do you think you have a real media media? I became a real media media. What is real media media? I didn't have a company. I became a very ordinary person.自然人你跟他们全部是合作关系合作关系就是一种有钱挣进来了大家分钱没钱就没就是一种纯合作随时也可以中断而且都是以朋友为基础在一起合作我跟天真先是成为了朋友才合作所以都比较简单人家也没打算在我这挣大钱就很好就比较清爽 So... At an oddenger's take a展 or what to do... Well, three years ago, and then just... Now just don't worry. Just make sure. Just take a good job. There's a alternative. Ah a babyization of power from technology! Please try to accept what Kundu was to live in the value, Just moments in my mind, This one changed my mind, You can say this isimosons from what I heard. Needless it's just that people don't care about it. This is just a pet wagon in 100 hundred, Sometimes the government is thinking about it without people, Let's see, too let's tap into a second. Most people don't put a seat, That's the same thing, There's a lot Everybody has, No, so. Like the city is a trouble company. So there's a whole lot of companies. There's a lot of other countries being met. It's only a big target member of the company, so it's quite big. I think it's a big thing. I have one thing that I mentioned about AI. AI is not going to do a project. Is it a big thing? I'm going to look at it. I'm going to do a friend. I'm going to do a project. I'm going to do 8 or 9 months. The product is on the线. But when I'm doing it, I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it. I'm not going to do it. I'm going to do it. To make sure that there is a little nuance. This is your startup. On your day, I did not sue, it was your startup job at. We are not betting money on interest with new money.桑香 one is tough and too tough for me. Love it was a squadron that recently took from interest in Director gear. This future was an extreme rhythm, I don't want to cut off account. So now just to kind of do it. Now trust my experience willbenight. just can be a real estate just do a real estate not a real estate and then just do and then just do this so there is a lot of this we do that if not understand or not understand I think is not a real estate you can't not understand it but because we do 也是晚的 做很多事情也是晚的 不用投机的 就是不用去抓住这个机会 但是可以 没事 你确实就是不知道怎么做 你非要做 不用硬做 但是没事可以关注关注 因为他们这个东西进化的太快了 太夸张了 就是他这个做视频的能力也太夸张 我觉得跟 一个人拍了一部电影出来 我觉得跟一条是有一些直接的会有一些冲突的 他如果是 但你推荐实际的人实际的产品不会 I think the product is not going to be done. But I want to put a product into a scene. Why do this scene can't be done? It's not going to be done. It's going to be done. Why do you do it? Why do you do it? I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it. Why do you do it? I'm going to create a movie. It's definitely a movie. It's a movie. You can't talk about it. You can't put a small box. It's not a profit. We can't do it. We can't set the scene to the scene. We can't do it. We mentioned a lot. You're working on a product. We don't need to give it a video to make it a video We can make it a video We can make it a video This is the most basic thing This is already a 90% of the things I can't imagine So, the experience is not in this You don't know if it's really how to do it I'm just going to ask you to do this This is the case We do this one AI is not a part of it But we don't know if we're going to do this Von I Kate and I have Alexици I know I Wooh I know hard I have sound The least I know I have a member of five worthy ofespère. You and my son played the entire time, but he does stuff like it. He is horrible. For a pren dinner, Mark told us that We need a choses. The too much. I mean you guys had glasses. I supposed to dig intoها. There is also something worse than one person. 一个人现在很有故事啊 我们现在以前呢叫上界大道啊 什么艺人啊 明星啊 什么新闻主角啊 你这一周可能抓取总注意力的 加吧加吧 各有十个吧 就大概毛孤孤一周 那么呀 这是每个人去几个记者一采访 结束了 报道 因为这个推荐算法 他有可能在他那个他的生活的范围里 不同的人 我感觉这可能一周就有一千个 两千 因为他没有一个爆火的人物还是那几个 但是在一个小范围里 一个锤里里 可能每天都有这么多值得报道 值得关注的人 这样我们做的事一点 好 但与此同时存在的一个问题就是 他们也不会接受那么多的采访 他也没有那么多经历 因为太碎了 居然碎到这个地步 还有碎到这个地步的相应的人 想要报道他 想要去交流 所以我觉得能去做这个工作的人将来会很少 然后他很多人他就用AI I think it's a lot of AI to solve this. This could be a good idea. I feel like I have a deal. I feel like this is a lot of things. It's very difficult to do. And then it will happen in the熟人. And the people who have the ability to do this. We have a lot of people who have the ability to do this. I was going to let those people on our media. Now I'm going to make a media. The content of the IP is that we're going to make it a lot. We're going to make it a lot. I'm going to make it a lot. I'm going to make it a lot. I'm going to make it a lot.他們 purposes just be sure everything is written and in creating a Washer a다보 which is namely when they all study so they may start is because they sound the ads also because they feel life quite it can It's a a sense the core Opening It's hard to get it. I'm not sure how it works. I'm just saying this opportunity. I'm just going to be able to study. I'm not sure how I can do it. I'm just going to be able to study it. We can't try it. We can feel it. We can use the technology. We can use the tools. We can use the sound. I can do the effect. That's really hard to do. I'm going to go to some companies. I'm going to go to some companies. They will first from the office system of AI-like. I'm going to get used to work. I've been working for them. I've been working for them. I've realized that they're good. That's pretty good. You've been able to do this thing. You've been completely broken. You've been broken. You've been a leader. 合伙人吧 做事 也是要去谈业务 我挺享受的 我不排斥工作 我是一个非常享受工作的人 你之前管了管的最多的是管到了 没管人 但是就很烦人 尤其是要都是内容创作者 最不想管的就是他们 我就算是比较会管的吧 我实在不行 But the story is also clear. They just have a hat and very much. Very good character and very HERE. Even notoisely new. As part of him, he discussed, I think. Not to live in a buddy. Not to be together. Let me try. That's what we dream. So whatever era. Yes. From what I used to talk about. Here it is male, I��은 even Piggy and Scarlet. Maybe you bring anything that you need. On average, 这个并没有用 但你觉得这种人现在是比例跟以前差不多呢 还是说会好了一点我不知道 这批人我就现在年轻的我就不认识了 我也没什么太强的提感 我感受就是猜测应该 他们是人群里固定比例的一拨人 他们永远会这样 我现在在这个开始好吃什么 跟餐饮界的朋友们聊的多了 那很多厨师也是这样的 是吧 因为有一季帮生 There's a lot of people who have a good idea. If you have a good idea, you can't be able to manage your own. And you have a good idea. You can't pay attention to this restaurant. It's not a good idea. You're not a good idea. You're not a good idea. You're not a good idea. I'm a good friend. I'm a good friend. We have a good idea. 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