Jim Cornette Experience

Episode 629: Self-Inflicted Potholes

209 min
Apr 15, 202612 days ago
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Summary

Jim Cornette and Hawaiian Brian discuss the deteriorating state of professional wrestling, focusing on WWE's creative direction under new leadership, AEW's controversial talent restrictions, and the broader industry trend of celebrity involvement overshadowing wrestling fundamentals. They critique specific segments from WWE Smackdown and Dynamite, highlighting how modern wrestling has abandoned traditional storytelling for spectacle and gimmicks.

Insights
  • WWE's creative vacuum post-Road Dogg departure has resulted in directionless booking with undefined authority figures making contradictory decisions, suggesting organizational dysfunction at executive level
  • Celebrity integration (Pat McAfee, Jelly Roll) is actively damaging fan engagement rather than expanding audience, indicating a fundamental misunderstanding of wrestling's core appeal by non-wrestling executives
  • TNA's last-minute talent restrictions demonstrate how WWE's restrictive approach to talent cross-promotion is creating industry-wide resentment and limiting independent wrestling ecosystem growth
  • Modern wrestlers trained on post-2000 WWE content lack understanding of stipulation psychology—they view gimmick matches as interchangeable rather than as story-driven consequences of previous interactions
  • The absence of serious, professional promoter presentation (dress codes, structured operations) in independent wrestling has normalized unprofessional conduct that damages venue relationships and industry credibility
Trends
Erosion of wrestling knowledge in executive decision-making as non-wrestling entertainment executives gain creative control over major promotionsCelebrity guest involvement becoming liability rather than asset due to poor integration and audience rejection of non-wrestler main event positioningIndependent wrestling venues closing to wrestling due to death match and hardcore wrestling incidents creating liability and reputational damageGenerational knowledge gap where wrestlers trained only on modern WWE/AEW content lack understanding of traditional wrestling psychology and storytelling structureTalent restriction policies creating industry friction and limiting cross-promotional opportunities that historically benefited independent wrestling ecosystemGimmick match oversaturation reducing their effectiveness as stipulations, with promoters using them as default booking rather than story-driven consequencesTax and regulatory compliance becoming increasingly complex for self-employed wrestlers, with government systems moving to online-only payment processingAudience fatigue with extended celebrity-focused segments overshadowing actual wrestling competition and match qualityDecline in serious professional presentation standards among independent promoters, correlating with increased venue closures and regulatory issuesMagic/supernatural gimmicks (Dan Haussen) being presented as legitimate wrestling content on major television, indicating creative desperation
Topics
WWE Creative Leadership VacuumCelebrity Integration in WrestlingTNA Talent Restriction PolicyIndependent Wrestling Venue ClosuresDeath Match Wrestling Industry ImpactStipulation Psychology and Match PsychologyWrestler Knowledge Transfer Across GenerationsProfessional Wrestling Presentation StandardsTax Compliance for Self-Employed WrestlersAEW Dynamite Creative DirectionPat McAfee Heel Character EffectivenessJacob Fatu Character Development FailuresGimmick Match OversaturationWrestling Promoter Professional StandardsAudience Engagement Metrics and Reactions
Companies
WWE
Primary focus of criticism regarding creative direction, celebrity integration, and departure from traditional wrestl...
AEW
Analyzed for Dynamite programming decisions, talent debuts, stipulation usage, and creative direction under Tony Khan...
TNA
Discussed for controversial last-minute talent restriction policy that cancelled independent wrestling matches and da...
Ring of Honor
Referenced historically for comparison of talent cross-promotion policies and creative standards under different mana...
GCW
Garbage Championship Wrestling promoter Brett Lauderdale criticized for death match wrestling causing venue closures ...
Ruthless Pro Wrestling
Death match promotion involved in alleged stabbing incident that led to Burwin Eagles Club permanently banning wrestl...
Burwin Eagles Club
Chicago-area wrestling venue forced to close to wrestling after death match incident, ending 22 years of wrestling ev...
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People
Jim Cornette
Primary host providing detailed wrestling industry criticism and analysis of modern promotion creative decisions
Hawaiian Brian
Co-host providing counterpoints and wrestling perspective from territory wrestling background
Pat McAfee
Criticized for ineffective heel character work and overshadowing actual wrestling with extended celebrity segments
Cody Rhodes
Analyzed for promo work and positioning as babyface against Pat McAfee heel character
Randy Orton
Positioned as title challenger against Cody Rhodes in WrestleMania main event storyline
Jelly Roll
Criticized for weekly appearances giving pep talks to wrestlers despite being non-wrestler talent
MJF
Discussed for upcoming WrestleMania-adjacent match against Kenny Omega and talent restriction cancellations
Kenny Omega
Criticized for ineffective promo work and upcoming match against MJF at AEW Dynasty
Tony Khan
Analyzed for booking philosophy emphasizing gimmick matches and avoiding rematches due to talent overuse
Carlos Silva
Criticized for approving talent cross-promotion matches without WWE clearance, causing last-minute cancellations
Brett Lauderdale
Criticized for death match wrestling promotion causing venue closures and industry reputation damage
Jacob Fatu
Analyzed for character development failure from dangerous werewolf gimmick to cleaned-up ineffectual presentation
Dan Haussen
Criticized for magical character gimmick with supernatural elements presented as legitimate wrestling content
Aria Emanuel
Identified as Pat McAfee's agent and potential influence on WWE creative decisions regarding celebrity integration
Vince McMahon
Referenced for historical creative decisions and potential ongoing influence on current WWE direction
Will Osprey
Discussed for debut of new stable with previously unannounced talent in AEW Dynamite opening segment
Callum Newman
Criticized for being introduced as IWGP World Champion without prior exposure to AEW audience
Ricochet
Involved in cancelled independent wrestling match due to TNA talent restriction policy
Tecla
Analyzed for intense promo delivery with rumors of intoxication, praised as highlight of AEW Dynamite
Chris Jericho
Discussed for babyface return and revival of 'The List' gimmick from WWE era against Ricochet
Quotes
"You return to certain podcasts, not because every episode is groundbreaking, but because the quality is consistent. The same intro, the same voice, the same standard. That familiarity isn't boring, it's dependable."
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"I'm two weeks cleaning sober now from AEW Dynamite and I got it as much easier to read about than it is to actually watch happen sort of like any other disaster like the Hindenburg."
Jim CornetteEarly segment
"The problem is that. I guess wrestling fans used to be the ones that were the most offended when they saw just really silly shit that was just it was silly I was like right they were the ones most offended because it was. It was bullshit and now they're like it's supposed to be silly."
Jim CornetteMid-episode
"If you're a kid who grew up watching wrestling. You had that you a TNA. Maybe maybe eventually somehow you discover a ring of honor or a new Japan or something but you more than likely had WWE. Maybe TNA which was always kind of copying WWE."
Jim CornetteCreative discussion
"This was directly caused by an incident, the fake stabbing that took place at another promotions event, which has caused the town, lawyers and police to be involved. It's truly a shame to see the Burwin Eagles and 20 plus years of Chicago wrestling history come to an end like this."
Brett Lauderdale (GCW Promoter)Burwin Eagles Club segment
"They don't want to see you at WrestleMania, Pat. They want you to go home and appeal like go home, Pat, go home, Pat."
Cody RhodesSmackdown segment
Full Transcript
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Heather Road to WrestleMania has hit some self-inflicted potholes. All that and more today and joining me for all this, Hawaiian Brian the podcasting ally and the king of the Arcadian Vanguard Podcast Network, Mr. Co-host to you. His opinions are so hot you need as best to see your muffs. Be great Brian, last everybody. Hello Ha-Chim, a pleasure to be here once again in Burwin. Isn't it crazy? Burwin. Anything you hear about that place, all you think of is Spanguli. Yeah, I guess that's one of the many great things we'll be talking about here this week. Well, you know, he is the man who made Burwin famous, much as the Crusher was the man who made Milwaukee famous, but I'm feeling better a little bit mentally Brian in some ways because I'm two weeks cleaning sober now from AEW Dynamite and I got it as much easier to read about than it is to actually watch happen sort of like any other disaster like the Hindenburg, anything like that. But again, we're having people, oh Jim, you get paid to do this so we don't have to watch it. You got to watch it for us or this is the most fun we have every week is listening to you make fun of these people. What about me? What about my mental health? Everybody else gets to take a mental health day. Remember, Brian, are you old enough to remember when a mental health day was, where's Charlie? I think he's gone fishing. And you just ended and you came back the next day and instead of the official name for it, it was like, fuck this shit type of thing. But anyway, I get some respite, don't I? Don't I have the stresses and the pressures of the world upon me, Brian, already running this empire, being the personality that I am, entertaining the masses in a variety of ways. I dance for your pennies, people. I day you throw the pennies and I dance. Don't I get some respite? I mean, you missed a banger this week. They debuted a whole bunch of people all at once and that's always good. But maybe we'll talk about some of the highlights of Dynamite later. I will say. Oh, yeah, I saw a picture of one of the highlights they debuted. Whoever debuted, debuted. They were a lot of debuts on this show. But funny enough, now that you're not more like debutants, now that you're not watching it, you're like a hundred thousand people. Well, I don't know, you know, I'm not trying to say there's a cause and effect, but it was more on that later as we get there. But Brian, I'm also grumpy. You know what the time of the year is, ladies and gentlemen around the world, Mr. and Mrs. America and all the ships at sea. It's tax time in America. Not morning in America. Not a new day for America. It's tax time in America. And Brian, this ties into something that we've been talking about here recently. With our friends across the pond, the matter of paying with checks, right? That was a couple of topics of our discussion lately. It was all great owes fault. Well, that's what started that. But now our fucking system over here is being corrupted and convoluted. My accountant tells, oh, you got to pay online this year. The fight. They wanted me to before, but no, give it to me on paper like you have with past 45 fucking years, right? But now they want me to pay online this year, everything. And they already they. I know some people may find this frivolous or foolish, but Brian, this is a kind of a. A ritual for me where even if I don't like spending the money, I enjoy that I've gotten it done. And it took for years. It's a 30 minute procedure. You sit down with your returns and your checkbook and you sign your returns and you write your checks and you put them with the payment coupons and you put them in a nice envelope, which your accountant has already addressed for you. It's so convenient. And you stick a stamp on there and you put the return address label on there and you've got stacks of clean white envelopes with checks in them. That have indicated that you have done your duty as an American citizen and you're straight with a fucking government. Nobody's going to be coming looking for you. And then you take them to the post office. You've taken 30 minutes sit down with a cold sprite taking 30 minutes to prepare these things. You've got a feeling of accomplishment. Put them in the mail. You're fucking good, right? Easy peasy pumpkin pie. But now no. Now. They're easier. What are they thinking? It's not easy for the past couple years instead of me just mailing my return in with the check and blah, blah, blah, and also the payment coupons and the estimates and things. This is a procedure for us self employed people. The CPA says no. Just sign this thing. The sign this signature page thing and will file the returnally electronically. And any cause you want to you can still send your check. But that means that we tried signing the thing electronically. And that flummoxed up some kind of way stays now both. So it ended up that she took a picture of the paper that we signed and sent it to them. And then they've had me doing this shit with the state online, which I've now that'll be a bigger pain in the ass usually than federal. Yeah, the first two times I tried that. It wouldn't work. And I called him as a what the fuck am I not doing? Oh no, we've had other clients call in and say that it's not working. So I sent him a fucking check. My standpoint on the matter is if I owe you money and I'm giving you a check that's good for that money, then you should leave me the fuck alone. If you want my money, you're going to get it the way that I want to give it to you. But again, what the fuck is. No, we want $20,000 from you, but we want it in fucking pennies. They're specifically not asking for that. So it made their magnet as hard as possible. And then you have to electronic. That doesn't mean you have to. I mean, if you didn't pay with the electronic signature, they send you a bill, don't they? I don't know what the fuck would happen. I don't know. They're changing everything. Change is bad. And now I'm going to have to sit there for all of these things, city and state and federal and estimates and everything online with a knot in my stomach, convinced that I'm going to it's either not going to work and they're going to send somebody after me. I'm going to fuck this up some kind of way and never get my money back or what the fuck is I'm not dealing with any rational fucking. Exchange here. It's all going through this. They get the internet can do what they want. They may apply my payment to some guy in fucking Bolivia. And then I'm worried that I fucked it up and I'm worried they're coming after me and I'm worried to God that somebody's going to knock on the door and say you. First off, I haven't heard anything about Bolivian's not paying their state taxes. So maybe you're okay. Worrying about that thing. But I mean, this is just one of the parts of the changing world where everything's now done electronically. I was under the impression you could still mail checks. That wasn't an issue, but maybe that's new for this year. I don't know. But you know, you're kind of an auditor's nightmare. I get an aggressive honor. I get an auditor who wants to like hurt people because you got everything you got everything laid out nicely in folders. No, yes. That's that's the thing. Even my accountant says that I'm one of the people who gives them the most detailed information they'll ever get from anybody because every time I spend anything over $5 I write it down in my book. And anytime I get paid anything I write it down in my book and I do monthly breakdowns and then quarterly breakdowns and then exactly what everything goes for. And it's all right there on paper and I have these notebooks going back over 20 years. If the wrestling business hadn't been a thing for you, do you think you would have been a successful accountant? No, because I hate math. I just like money. But just not other people's money, your own money. No, if it's not mine, I wouldn't give a fuck to count it. But if it's mine, I'm trying to keep an eye on it. And I like to do things the normal traditional way where everybody knows what's going on and there's a fucking paper trail. Anyway, I'm sure your accountants appreciate all the extra work. Well, they enjoy the interaction. They enjoy the interaction. Man, every accountant I know is miserable right now. This is like their worst time of year. No, but they enjoy the interaction with me on a regular basis. So they know how I am. Have you given them a figure or a shirt or anything? I was about to say they usually give me the figures, see my accountants, see what I did there. Actually, there have been a past bit of few figures and books and things passed around. But nevertheless, all right. All right, real quick. We want to. This has been tax talk. Yeah. And I ain't happy about it. But I want to recognize a couple of people in the cult of Cornad who have written in Dylan from Washington state. It just wants to thank me and you Brian for distracting him his father passed away. I guess in early February after a blood clot from a routine hernia surgery. And again, that's see that's what I. Think out over all of these type of things and he actually mentioned Dylan did that the first episode that he listened to after his father passed away. We were talking about Bron Breaker's hernia and my hernia surgeries and. So anyway, I can't imagine. Dylan how you feel but thankfully we've been able to distract you but I want to recognize your dad. My condolences Dylan. And again, you. I just hate to go off about the medical field these days but you can. They can transplant. Assholes from one to the other and you know take your brain out and fucking pressure wash it and put it back in or whatever. And also go in when you see it all the time there's. Headlines in the news from so and so having surgical procedure in a strip mall. You never know what the fuck. They have to put me to sleep to get my teeth out every once in a while because I'm not having that happen when I'm awake but I'm never real happy about doing it either. You never know about these things who's. You know you're not a good pilot of your plane you know you want to interview the anesthesiology that okay how many fingers am I holding up can you count backwards from 10. Are you all right. How did I get on this. You remember weird Al did a version of James Brown had a living in America and then we're now did a living with a hernia. And instead of I feel good it ended with I feel bad. I remember that I heard it once and then you know I've just. I've got horrible fucking feelings about that subject so I just stay away from it. Anyway also from Matthew from Boston. He wanted if we could a quick dedication on the show his black lab Jude passed away at the age of 14. And they both listened to the show together but listen to this for over seven years. He served as an empathy dog at a local nursing home. While Matthew was working as a physical therapist so he was. The Jude was there to comfort the the old folks and. He would also get an entrance promo. Hailing from parts unknown he's Rudy's crude he's the pup with attitude he's the Jude. And that would make his tail wag so we hate to hear about his loss Matthew but at least he was. Spreading joy to not only just the family but also folks around him. Hey Jude. Just be thankful it wasn't Vern Ganya's retirement home that he was. Oh my God now see you've always you got to. Oh it looks like much. I got him. It's Suplex and. You've got to. Constantly got to just be crass Brian. When we're trying to have these moments here. You know they got on us on the interwebs the other day when you and I both said even with Dan house and we try to like the guy but the fucking. The cursing of the referee was up there with teleportation. And as a bright and Jim just hate fun how many how many sillier shows. Are there actually than ours when it comes down to it. Now this show is pretty stupid. When you really think of when you really think of we just have some just asinine fucking things that we go through here and we love fun we just not with the goddamn it's like. I don't want the person give me the anesthesia to be having fun. That's where we need some seriousness give us our seriousness. And I saw some of this and we'll talk about it here I guess real quick because again we were. At least a couple of the parties responsible for Dan house and becoming popular way back when. Because we were focusing on his cameos and everything and yes they got a big reaction and we enjoyed them. And then he got signed to a W and they put him on the shelf for four years whatever the hell happened there. I like the idea of Dan house. I like that he tries to apply logic in his own way to what he's doing. But when we hear from people like you don't get it he's not cursing anyone it's all coincidence it's happening and. I don't care it's still the same point of stupidity whether it's him causing it or the referee just suddenly has a spastic hand and he can't fucking do anything. It's the same stupidity applied whether it's the magic doing it or not. It's the same stupidity and then oh you're supposed to see him walk away illustrates that he doesn't actually have magic. Listen I like the guy I'm happy he has a job I try to enjoy his segments you could also call out when things go too far on the stupidity scale. And yet even though the referee's hand we can't directly say that we saw a lightning bolt leave Dan house and and causes hand to seize up on him or whatever the hell was happening there. It's it's one step up from the invisible man in my eyes and well that's it's the I mean we saw that episode of the Andy Griffith show we were kids how Gomer and Barney were fooled by the coincidences after they had discovered the curse of Count S. Vandalecki. Oh it's just it's no come in. But that's the problem is that. I guess wrestling fans used to be the ones that were the most offended when they saw just really silly shit that was just it was silly I was like right they were the ones most offended because it was. It was bullshit and now they're like it's supposed to be silly. If you were born 2000. And you're a 26 year old wrestler now. You grew up seeing the worst of Vince McMahon stuff after he became a billionaire after his ego was completely out of check after the attitude era. That really bad period of time. It normalized all the stupid stuff. You know for everything bad we can say and I'm not a big fan of it and you were involved in it you're not a big fan of it the undertaker dying and flying away. Oh that was like a one off in a way. It wasn't like they replayed it over and over and over again like he died he went away. We had to wait from the fly back. But the backstage segments the bad comedy the adults acting like children. All of these things are all symptoms of McMahonism over wrestling creative since the year 2000. And unfortunately if you're a kid who grew up watching wrestling. You had that you a TNA. Maybe maybe eventually somehow you discover a ring of honor or a new Japan or something but you more than likely had WWE. Maybe TNA which was always kind of copying WWE whether it was Russo there or not. There was always an element of even when things were kind of going good. Oh no they're going to bring this person back or oh no they're doing the always. I remember after after Vinnie Rue it actually got worse. It's possible. You know for all the snobbery you see with the modern crop of AEW fans whatever. These are the same people cheering for the Joey Ryan penis druids at all in. Boy that doesn't make the highlight reels anymore does it. It does. That was Adam Page's match I believe too. We want to talk about someone associated with Joey Ryan there but the point is they like their stupid shit too. They just wanted to be their stupid shit and it's all based on what Vince McMahon got away with when he had a monopoly and he got stupider and stupider and we haven't gotten away with it. And I hate the lump Dan Hausen in with that but Dan Hausen is kind of an end result of thinking that a character like that could work on a wrestling show. It wouldn't happen without all that. I don't think that Bill Watts or anyone I hate to use Bill Watts but if any other wrestling promoter had somehow come up with a product that had beaten WWE and gotten to the turn of the century I don't think the wrestling we see today would have as much silliness and bad creative and just a layout of WWE shows and that actually goes into the layout of TNA shows and you could argue a big influence over Tony Khan and that's the probably went on and on. I apologize but it's. Well no, well this kind of leads in to what we're going to talk about next but to put a button as they say, I found a button, to put a button or a period on what you just said. I agree with you. It's that for lack of a better word. For lack of a better analogy I should say the guys who get into the business reflect the business of the time where they were kids watching it now more than ever because since it didn't really the foundation of it the concept of it didn't change for 100 years. So, everything was fine and then suddenly. Like you said, everything becomes all about Vince's weirdness and sports entertainment and these kids grow up seeing this and they think that this was the way possibly that it's always been done. And they there's nothing wrong with it and they they don't understand that they do things regularly that would have gotten them pummeled by the entire locker room and kicked in a ditch in the back of the building. And just like, you know, oh, let's do this. It used to be that wrestling was presented as this wacky sport that took place in the real world and these people were over the top but they were serious and every now and then and again depending on what territory or eventually what company. You saw silliness. But it didn't mean it was overwhelming silliness and it went the other way to the point where this shows in a lot of respect feel silly. The only thing that really stands out is when someone gets serious. When CM Punk does a serious promo that gets people talking. And to me that's just one of the things missing. There's no reason why WWE's feuds and booking and all this stuff can get. There's no reason they can't get rid of the silly shit. It doesn't draw anyone new in and it doesn't hold people more than serious professional wrestling storylines. I'll get off my soapbox. I'm sorry. Well, watch out stepping down. It's a long step. But there's another related subject because we talked about guys getting into business emulating what they grew up watching. We can thank in large part my old friend Paul Lee for ECW for popularizing garbage wrestling. And I'm not saying that all ECW was was garbage wrestling. But I have said before that all a lot of people took out of it. Well said it was garbage wrestling. Because it seems like that's what was emulated over and over and over again ad nauseum. Whether it be table breaking or the whole shebang. And I've always also said that I was against most of that. Because besides the fact of the. You know, the furniture and the fucking bullshit like that doesn't work with you and people get hurt and it's stupid and unrealistic. It also costs you in other ways and that's still happening because they just announced this past week that after one of these hardcore wrestling events. It was ruthless pro wrestling I tried to look them up but they blocked me on Twitter I guess in the first ever preemptive block imagining what I would say because I didn't know they existed right. But they ran the Burwin Eagles Club which Burwin is a suburb of Chicago and our friends think Gully as we mentioned earlier has made it famous. But there's the Eagles Club it's what is one of these buildings that seats. I don't know is it 500 people or whatever it seats that has hosted in the wrestling in the Chicago area for 20 years now. And all different kinds of the various companies whatever the fuck. But apparently this this is a death match. Garbage wrestling fucking mud show group with a bunch of fat fucking tattooed guys with fake belts over their shoulders and pictures of them bleeding. Because in their minds when they show that to the fucking local meth dealer they can brag that they're as tough as Stone Cold Steve Austin or whatever these people's issue is. And whatever the kind of crowd is that they draw to see people bleed and break glass and like tubes over themselves and be fat fucking tattooed guys with fake belts that crowd. They either did a fake stabbing or a real stabbing or a fake stabbing to cover up a real fight or whatever the fuck that they did it was outlaw shows between these fake tattooed fucking fat fucking guys. Brian. I think involved then I guess it got to buildings, lawyers and or the city involved or whatever and they just said fuck it. No more wrestling of any kind in our building anymore no way know how. There was there was no question anywhere in there. What you want me to say about this. I have here a report from the wrestling news covering this incident. They've got some wonderful correspondence over there. You can hear it at the wrestling news dot com where you find your favorite podcast a long running independent wrestling venue in suburban Chicago is closing its doors to wrestling after fall out from an alleged stabbing incident at a recent event according to F for W online. The Burwin Eagles Club in Burwin Illinois has hosted hundreds of shows over the past 22 years from groups like shimmer, all American wrestling, black label pro and GCW, but will be housing just one more upcoming AAW show on April 24. The decision comes after an incident that occurred during a show in late March by deathmatch promotion Ruthless Pro during which wrestler cruel was originally alleged to have been stabbed by a fan leading to an assault on the fan from several wrestlers. Some such as GCW promoter Brett Lauderdale have voiced doubts that the stabbing even occurred. After the Eagles Club canceled GCW's scheduled June 20th show at the venue, Lauderdale took the social media and declared and as a quote, this was directly caused by an incident, the fake stabbing that took place at another promotions event, which has caused the town, lawyers and police to be involved. It's truly a shame to see the Burwin Eagles and 20 plus years of Chicago wrestling history come to an end like this. Well, now I did just pause one second. And that's the promoter from GCW. When the owner of Garbage Championship Wrestling comes out and says, oh, this is a sad, sad day that these people couldn't behave in a fucking. That's, I don't know what to say. Is that the end of the news story there? That's the end of the news story. This happened a little while ago because tons of people started sending us the footage and it was one of those things where you don't see a stabbing. You just see a bunch of people attacking someone. You couldn't even tell if it was a work or not. Well, yeah, because everybody was just flailing around and fucking you also couldn't tell who the wrestlers were and who the fans were. And because the wrestlers were wrestling in the same fucking clothing that the goddamn fans were wearing watching the wrestlers wrestle. That's why it was meaningless, but there was no like stabbing like, oh my God, I'm stabbed. He stabbed him. It's just a bunch of fat fucking tattooed guys yelling at each other and fucking with each other. And the one thing that we know is that everybody in today's modern age knows that this is all a bullshit work. So it's not like they heal God enough heat that the fucking fan came out of the audience to stab him to save the baby face. It was two fat fucking tattooed guys yelling at each other to begin with. And then a bunch of people beat the one guy up. So are they saying, well, he stabbed my friends so the eight of them could beat him up. And then here's the problem. There's eight fucking wrestlers and nobody knew how to fucking fight. And besides that, the whole point of this is that this place was even we're so committed to hosting wrestling, they would even host death match wrestling, which is, you know, what's next, biting the heads off chickens in the parking lot. But then they managed to fuck that up. They've got in such a goddamn deal with nobody to prevent it or tell anybody not to fucking do it, whether work or shoot. They got kicked. They got everybody, the entire business kicked out of a building has been whole wrestling for 20 years, because that was too much that we don't want these people involved, or we don't want these people in our fucking building kind of thing. It's not worth the fucking trouble, which is this. I don't know what kind of people would go to a goddamn place that would willingly host this death match wrestling bullshit. You just know it's waiting for something to fucking happen. So just to go back to what this is, because I'm still unsure, even though I watched the video and I just read what I read. Was the fake stabbing that there was no stabbing and the wrestlers made up a stabbing because they wanted to beat up this fan? Or was there a fake stabbing off camera for some sort of weird angle? What exactly is the fake stabbing? I don't know. And I assume that will come out as part of the lawsuit. The lawsuit or a court process or whatever the fuck's involved here, or maybe they'll just all go crawl back in their hole. But again, that's the thing that that I always preach because I've seen it happen to other people and or it had businesses trying to overcome it with issues with bit with in OVW when I first got here. I was told well because of Ian Rotten and all that bullshit and blood flying and stupid nonsense in front of children. You can't have wrestling in a National Guard Armory in Indiana anymore. Rip Rogers couldn't even get to one and see more. Because it came from the whoever the head of the National Guard Armory may be because of the bad publicity from this this garbage. Or you get go back to Smoky Mountain Wrestling. The people in East Tennessee, the schools and the. The you know, high schools, elementary schools in the small towns, the gyms in that part of the country. They hadn't been burnt by hardcore wrestling. I didn't have that then. But it had been outlaw mud shows that caused a problem didn't have insurance. Didn't provide what they advertised was just a fucking mess. And we had to overcome that stigma with a lot of we were legitimate and you can see us on TV and blah, blah, blah. Because already that was limiting the places that you could. Present wrestling and you could it's not that vintage of a problem. Remember what I was at MLW that night at Milwaukee. Who's the little fat fucking guy? What's his name? God damn hit Edwards with baseball. But I've lost the little Warthog fellow in MLW, Brian. I know who you're talking about. I don't remember the name Sammy Callahan. Yes, he's the he's the one because he went around in the Falls Count anywhere, but he went around doing shit that they told him not to do with the building bleachers and shit and broke stuff and they get the building got mad and they fired Callahan whatever they blame me. But Cincinnati television that Jerry Jarrett couldn't get after the sheik had gone out of business because the TV station, the general manager kept the tape of the chic close up cutting the job guys head with the razor blade. It just depends what if what was the arena. It doesn't even matter. But the arena that the AEW pay-per-view was in where dipshit shoved the serenj through fuckwad's face. Oh, I wasn't I thought you were going to go in a different direction. I don't remember which arena that was. Well, but OK, let's let's say that the building manager just said, wait a minute, we're a goddamn major arena and a large metropolitan city and we're hosting a show where they're puncturing each other. Let them do that down to goddamn down in the Highlands or whatever at some fucking club. It is some way somebody can be offended. You never know till you try. But whether it's big or small, this is the kind of thing that harms wrestling. In the long run, because you lose venues or you lose TV or you lose. The sponsor or you lose whatever because you just do stupid, obnoxious, blatant shit that you don't need to do. Does that make any sense? It doesn't. We talked about it a little while back. Not saying Dennis Carlisle was perfect. But with Dennis, he understood you don't want to lose your buildings and there kind of has to be a serious ish person to deal with everyone. And with a lot of these indie companies, again, that's just one indie promoter I'm talking about. And it's a different era of independent wrestling. Do any of them wear a suit? Do any of them have a blazer? I'm not saying these are like be all end all things, but is anyone a serious person who actually makes money anywhere? Or is it just a wrestling fan who's a goof who knows other wrestlers and they can do a goofy show? I think that's one of the problems. You don't have a lot of serious promoters out there. You know what? What Adam Pierce used to tell a few of the guys at Ring of Honor when he was the Booker and we had to go to Canada. And there was certain people who might have this was before I was even one of them, but there was certain people who might have an issue going across the border. He would put them in the car with him and he'd say, OK, boys, let's put a shirt with a collar on and some slacks and go across the border and tell him we're going to go entertain some people and look like something instead of this fucking car load of Holy shit. Look at that t-shirt. We better question them for six hours. And it's, you know. But again, I'm not saying that everybody has to show up at the building. I'm not trying to put the dress code in like Vince had or what. Yeah, you got to walk across the street from your hotel to the building at 11 o'clock in the morning. Vince, what did you wear? God damn jacket. That's a little excessive, but you. There needs to be at least some element. A promoter who isn't a slob. Some elements of God damn structure in place at any show so that the talent is not just a bunch of guys that got together for a. Hey kids, let's put on a death match show. And you're just allowed to have this kind of interaction with the fucking fans to begin with when it was not like some guy has lost his mind and dives in the ring to stab somebody. It's your standing there. Your fucking wrestlers yelling at this fucking guy. He's yelling back. But that's the kind of death match type of. Thing that again. Is there's there's all kinds of way you can offend. People with your show in the death match. You know, aspect or you can. Because you've got guys that grew up thinking that was cool to break furniture or you. Can offend people because you grew up when wrestling was supposed to be fucking silly. But either way, that's kind of why we're in the position we're in. And the whole business, Brian, I go ahead and put put your period on it. My friend. Well, I was just going to say we're talking about promoters. And if this really was the wrestlers beating up a fan. I mean, someone told me it was for something the fans said online. I don't know, but. See, that's the thing. Like any of the boys would at a legitimate show would know what the fan had said online. God damn it. I don't know. But the point is, there's a whole lot of people need to be putting a rocket ship and sent away from the world. That's my point. I'm sorry. Well, I was just going to say the whole dad gum thing, Brian, the whole dad gum thing has gone to the dogs. It's gone to the dogs, but not in a good way because you wouldn't want to feed your dogs. Such a fluvia and dreck as as is foisted off on the the modern. Pro wrestling fan. You wouldn't want to you wouldn't want to feed that to a dog. You want to take care of the pooches, the puppies, little babies. So you want to feed them the quality food like you would feed yourself or those you love because you love them. And that's why they love you. So instead of dishing out the garbage championship wrestling version of dog food. See our friends at Sundays for dogs. 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If you're going from the coast inland? I think so, yeah. Yeah, fuck that fucking place. It was, I drove through three feet of fucking snow to get from raw to the next night's TV taping, whatever we were taping the next night after raw in those days. Syndication or whatever. And it looked fine in Seattle and Spokane at three feet of fucking snow. Anyhow, James says, and Brian, this may be a good topic for you as well with your territory wrestling mind. But we were just talking about some people have grown up just being used to what they're seeing now. James says, I've been a big fan for years. Thank you to Brian and you for all you do question. Can you break down the differences between no holes barred falls, can anywhere, no disqualification and street fight matches? I've long felt that companies use these interchangeably, but I wonder about the intended differences between these match styles. And that's true. Now, it. I guess the fans, many of the fans have forgotten when it wasn't there wasn't just Oh, here's tonight's false count anywhere match. Like that was one on every program. Or that here's the you know the notice the dreaded notice qualification in six out of the eight matches because of some reason or another. And the whole idea of stipulations in the territory days and in the history of wrestling even before the territory days, all up until like you said earlier everybody just wanted to copy. Vince McMahon's weird vision of wrestling. Like the punishment had to fit the crime, the stipulation had to fit the match, the participants and the booking of the participants and how they got there. In jet. Does that make in other words the. The fucking easiest and most age old stipulation wrestling was two guys go to a time limit draw they come back the next week either with no time limit or just a longer time limit. That's a stipulation. Or if a guy got disqualified, you came back the next week with a rematch with no disqualification. Where this where the champion can't get himself disqualified to. You know, to weasel his way out of losing his title or he wants to hit me with a fucking chair. Well, I can hit him with a chair and I can't get disqualified and neither one of us can I can give him a taste of his own medicine. That's the simplest. Kind of stipulation. That's age old and from the very start was involved in the wrestling business. And then over a period of time. Other things started to be established based on. And then they drew some place either a guy that was involved in it would go someplace else and take that idea with him. Or a promoter would hear about it and do his own thing. And a bookers would go from place to place and spread different matches around but. Brown I'll let you jump in but is it safe to say that. Originally the idea of having a stipulation to any match was not. It was to have guys in a match like that. But to make special rules to fit what had happened between those two guys. I mean that's pretty precisely what it almost always was. Now you see matches where we've had where we review them. And it's no DQ or anything goes or falls can anywhere they're all the same at this point. But we ask ourselves what caused this. It's a really singles match before this and. Sometimes it's just hey let's do this match maybe they feel like the gimmick. Is a bigger draw or more of an interest than the actual people in the match would be having a regular match. It's something everyone over relies on now and again. That's the mean something. Now we just see Adam Page's thing is the Texas death match because he's from nowhere near Texas. Everything kind of made sense in a way. Went to a 60 minute draw we're going to go 90 minute time limit next week doesn't mean you're going to go 90 minutes. But now stipulations are as much a draw maybe in the promoter's eyes and Tony and Triple H's eyes. Then an actual match with the same participants. Well whether or not there's reason behind it or not. And that's the thing is which comes first the chicken or the egg it is are the WWE and AEW both in the position now with their. Their television their stars their exposure at various levels their cash in the industry. Would they pretty much be doing the same business if they dropped half the gimmick matches they have. Then the answer is probably yeah. This thing is it. That's the thing is that it's. They have even been programmed that everything has to be a gimmick match and. I remember in the ring of honor when. I said Claire had bought the thing we were debuting live in a new town and Gary Jester. Call us that hunter was delirious was the booker and I was the producer and Gary Jester calls and what can we put a cage in there like it was 20 years before that and just because there was a cage match. That was good oh my God we've got to go as they. They see cage matches on every indie goddamn show all of this gets prostituted to where. The promotions use it as a crutch because they think that's just the way they're supposed to do it and the. You know the boys have fun doing it I don't know. But again at some point there was logic to stipulations when they were presented. You can even have the same match meant different things in different parts the country because. If Ivan Koloff was a specialist at the Russian chain match. But if they'd been in East Tennessee it was a Tennessee chain match because Whitey and Ron had done it. But the Wahoo McDaniel had the Indian strap match but so did. Chief Billy Red cloud before him and fucking Indian wrestlers before that. But baby faces and some heels would get a specialty match that they would carry. From territory to territory and if they had a six or month or a year run into territory. Maybe they'd build up to do one or two of them. And I'm not talking about at all I mean in any market they might do the house shows every night for three weeks but each market would only see it once. And it even if a match wasn't tied to a particular wrestler maybe it's because in Amarillo. Dory Funk senior had gotten the Texas death match over whether he invented or not or just popularized the. Modern name rules etc. You would put them in the ultimate match in Amarillo would be a Texas death match but. In Florida it might be inside the steel cage. Or in somewhere else it might be the street fight. Which was come dressed as you are and anything you've got blue jeans cowboy boots your belt belt buckle. Anything you've got in your pockets insinuating brass knuckles or chain whatever. But if dusty was over in the territory Florida Carolinas. Because he had the John Wayne lean to him. It wouldn't be a street fight it'd be a bunkhouse match because that was the way they came to fight in a bunkhouse the Cowboys. But it's the same fucking rules. But just like a triple threat. I don't know about Paul E he was doing his own thing. But when I had the first one the three way match Tracy Smothers dirty white boy Brian Lee in Knoxville. It wasn't ever said that it was no disqualification and it wasn't. They just didn't do anything to get disqualified in front of the referee. And it was elimination by pinfall or I guess submission but nobody submitted anyway so it didn't matter. But we didn't stack and no disqualification because that would have been a hat on a hat. Why when you're having the first match of a kind. And it's already a gimmick. Then fucking make it notice qualification maybe you'll want to do it and come back with it again. No holds barred is another way of saying notice qualification but even that didn't used to mean no time limit. Falls Count anywhere. It was in the really in the modern era because they started fighting on the floor which again has gotten so stupid and repetitious and if you're in a big building a lot of people get pissed because they can't see. Falls Count anywhere meant that. You could count the fall anywhere because the guys previously. Had had a match the week or the months before and fought out of the ring and into the fucking crowd and holy shit. We don't ever see anything like that. So this time I can penny in the concession stand if I want to. And you'd see that one time a fucking year if that. They were all different based on now I've done the soliloquy Brian. They were all different based on what had happened between those two guys. And how to make a rematch attractive by either nullifying what the he'll use to an advantage or amplifying the baby face strengths his his strongest match or his you know the the manager is hungry to cage. If I interfered in a match. Then they would come back with a regular match. Not no DQ not no time limit. But they put me in a cage and hang me over the ring. And yes that was a little excessive being in a cage would have probably kept me out but all the people want to pay 10 bucks to see me scared shitless hanging over the ring. But that doesn't mean it has to be a goddamn falls count anywhere street fight in the fucking ring now. We have made this match special. Based on previous fucking actions. I yield the floor. Well I think you made a good point. And unfortunately I don't think anything's going to change. Who's going to make the changes. Who's going to be the promoter who says that this isn't the smart way to do it and who's going to be the person strong enough to tell the modern wrestler they're not going to do what they want to do. Because it seems like a lot of people want to do things but not a lot of people understand. The psychology or thought behind why things were introduced or why they were done or why they should be done. And what's the best way to get the maximum impact out of it. I understand that all the boys would just give us a fucking you know the chaos in Canada or football field fuckery or whatever they're calling the match anarchy in the arena whatever just let us do everything we can ever think of and all we want to do. Well that's fucking great for that. Now you've done everything you can think of and all you want to do. Instead of focusing on as I said making rules for matches individual based on previous interactions between these competitors so that it makes sense to the people. You identify the one or two turning points. In the in their previous interactions and. Somewhere another the baby face gets to nullify that. Or perhaps the heels still has an advantage that the baby face has to overcome. But it makes fucking sense based on their track record and their relationship with each other and their feud or their rivalry or whatever the kids call it. And then. You can build that until you get to an ultimate blow off where you haven't let them do just every goddamn thing every match every week. And this is another reason why the Tony's insane. Booking philosophy. Involves not really having a lot of rematches. Well no wonder because they can't fucking calm these guys down to not do everything every time so what do you come back with. Instead of identifying a one or two things that you could hang your hat on as Jim Ross would say. That that son of a bitch OK the super kick is barred. Can you imagine that dreaded stipulation. But again. That's that's booking that's when you when you book that's when every match is different on the card and everybody's journey to that match is different and every. Finish of the match is different at every goddamn. In some cases stipulation the match is different some stipulations of matches need to be that there are none. It's this guy versus that guy. But that's the art of booking it's not just all let's have a bunch of crazy fucking matches and. Any variation from a normal one on one or tag team match is now no disqualification by the goddamn. Just by the announcement of it it doesn't make sense. I apologize. For my goddamn dissertation. You should be sorry look at the state of the industry. Look what your generation did. It wasn't my generation. It was so what do you know that was the Sundays for dogs. Where was your bar. It was a W. It was off. More than wolf. Thought you were trying to howl at the moon here. Well Brian speaking of anything goes before we talk about something else going away that is I just got I saw this I just saw this. It's on the Twitter machine but it is possibly the first mention of Shane McMahon. As a as a member of the community in the newspaper up here in Connecticut. And Alan cheap shot has tweeted this out from 1989. Would you like to hear about Shane's appearance in a newspaper. Let's hear about this. Three Greenwich men Greenwich Connecticut were arrested early Saturday morning in connection with vandalism to more than a dozen mailboxes on local residential streets. Charged with 16 separate counts of third degree criminal mischief were Shane B. McMahon of Hedgerow Lane William T. Green of have a Meyer place and Jacques are lean heart of Bruce Park Avenue. They just moved into town. All three were released on promises to appear at spirit court in Stanford on February 21. They were accused of damaging a total of 16 mailboxes on Old Stone Bridge Road. I think that may have been where Vince lived at the time. Parsonage Road Clapboard Ridge and Dingle Dingle Town roads. Well it's over in Dingle Town. Where you just said Shane McMahon you said where he lives didn't you. Oh of Hedgerow Lane that well that was different. Well I don't know but that sticks out my head anyway. It was all either late Friday evening or early Saturday morning but listen to this a pickup truck driven by McMahon was stopped at about 138 a.m. Saturday. As it was driving away from Old Stone Bridge Road five minutes after a resident there reported vandalism to his mailbox. Inside the truck police found a case of beer the lot number of which matched those on empty beer cans found near some of the damaged mailboxes. McMahon was additionally charged with possession of alcohol and a motor vehicle by a minor police said but listen to this I didn't give this before. You know how old they all three were. 19. 19. I wasn't like 14. And they get they drink beer and bust up mailboxes they were 19 fucking years old. And I like Shane and he's a wonderful person. But Jesus Christ talk about being a disrespectful rich kid. He didn't have any bills to pay. Is that a federal offense if you do something to someone's mailbox. And no I think you have to. You know actually that may be a loophole because it's supposedly. At least not done something one of those things that well that's just not done for anybody but an authorized United States Postal Service employee to put something in your mailbox. Because that's so that's why you you're not supposed to get newspapers you'd have a separate paper box back in the days when people actually read the newspaper that's paper box because they put the newspaper in there because they weren't allowed to use the mailbox. So is it a federal crime to put something. In your mailbox but only third degree criminal mischief on a local basis to beat the shit out of it with a baseball bat. Should we get Stephen P. new on here and clear this up. When the officer Ashay McMahon he said I haven't driven this thing in so long I didn't know how fast. I try to get to my granddaughter's birthday in Westport. I'm pregnant or mother when I was eight. So anyway but that's you know the McMahons have been making news in Connecticut for. Now I on to 50 years now. Where was the mean street Posse. Yeah where would I guess that's he had to quit hanging around with old shock. Really. In shock. And he had to he was hanging around the wrong crowd that he found Rodney and Pete gas and. All right. Enough enough Frivolity and Tom Fulery we got to talk some serious business Brian. TNA is now taking the mantle of the most unpopular fucking thing since crotch rot to all of the various online fans around the world that actually know that this is happening. Because they pulled their talent from working with some other people's talent at some of the independent events taking place not only on WrestleMania weekend but. I think one or two of maybe is even some couple weeks after that or whatever but. Basically matches were arranged on a handful of shows between TNA talent which I understand that they let their guys. That they have under contract work for other promoters and they should since they don't run any fucking shows to speak of. But the TNA guys were going to be competing against guys who. Technically were under the AEW umbrella. And TNA being a. Well they're not a wholly owned subsidiary how about. A bottom sub in the BDSM relationship with the WWE. To where that they don't want the intermingling of the of the races and the species there between. WWE talent and AEW talent. So my I. I don't know how this happened and it's not that I'm surprised that WWE probably told TNA to pull these people out of this shit I'm not surprised at that. I'm surprised at how. Could they not have known that these matches have been announced and promoted. And talked about in the various news sites well here's TNA so and so going to wrestle. NXT so and so or. Blah blah blah. How did it get this far to where it's. Less than 10 days away in their canceling shit. Well again everything was approved everything was. Until it wasn't by Carlos Silva or TNA management. No that's no that's where they made their first fucking mistake. Carlos Silva does not fucking run TNA anymore when it comes to matters like this. If he didn't realize. That if he's letting his talent work with AEW guys with this relationship he has with the WWE. Then that he shouldn't have gone to Stanford. Via phone or however they communicate these days that a for I'll let this guy take this shot over here against this guy do you give a shit. And they say yeah your name and he's a fucking moron. So the question is is Carlos Silva moron or did they. A lie to him and go back on his word in Stanford because somebody higher up. Then who said yes said no. So who did approve this. And again we're not talking about to the best of my knowledge televised events. Maybe best case scenario is a live stream but maybe not even that. These are purely independent events one of them maybe more high profile than the others because it's near WrestleMania. But it doesn't seem to make much sense especially after everything was announced and. When fans are made a TNA it's one thing when you're seeing wrestlers openly come out and rip this that's a whole nother thing. No because the guys are losing out on a payoff and whatever the fuck and they they wanted to do mjf wanted to have this match with Nick Nemeth that's being canceled for. New Jersey or New York or one of the wherever the fuck they were going to go in May. And again who's the guys in WrestleMania weekend the main event for somebody's show. There's a memorial show apparently for someone. Who were the guys the guys were Ricochet versus Leon Slater. Okay so Ricochet obviously Ricochet is with a W Leon Slater is with NXT is that not correct. No he's with TNA or with T that's right with TNA he's a he's a period they had been they had been together and whatever they were friends they wanted to have this match they'd been together in NXT whatever the back story is. The talent wanted to have the matches. And I'm not even blaming Ricochet you know they would work with their friends and whatever the case. But if Carlos Silva did not realize. That he should make sure especially Ricochet who's actively on. You know fucking Tony's television and mjf who is Tony's world champion. Is it okay if I have my guys, you know on these out dates work with these guys. Then Carlos Silva is one to blame. He, you know that he would not think to clear that is insane if they were working with goddamn Fred Smith and Joe Jones big shit. But because of its wrestling and he's working with the WWE now if that didn't ever cross his mind I don't know why the fuck it didn't cross anybody else's. How could it go this far to get advertised this long until the WWE call wind of it. That's that's my questions I'm asking apparently moose was also pulled from a maple leaf pro show during WrestleMania week and that's I believe Scott DeMore you can understand why there may be some problems with TNA and Scott DeMore. But who knows. But this is kind of going back to when you were with Ring of Honor years ago. And all of a sudden guys who were with Ring of Honor who went to TNA couldn't work for Ring of Honor anymore and neither could anyone else. If you're an indie promoter right now would you book anyone from TNA. Well, this has always been the problem. In that in the modern way of the wrestling industry the way that things turned into for so long. But you ever there was no territory it wasn't this guy's territory that guy's territory it's the whole world all at the same time everything because everybody's either on the internet amongst the hardcore fans are streaming or reporting the news or whatever so even when you would have talent under contract would be using them for the majority of their the dates that they worked and paying them the majority of their income. Because unless you were big enough you couldn't dominate their schedule so the Ring of Honor guys had to take out dates and they would go somewhere and do some goofy shit that people would hear about wrestling a girl or the whole PWG thing were a bunch of marks in the business wanting to get together now matches with their friends in front of people. And you couldn't control the way they were used whether he or baby face consistent with your television. And how they were presented consistent with your television on these other shows so. That's why T and a got big for their britches and didn't want. The guys working for Ring of Honor because in all honesty. They were being used better than Ring of Honor and having better matches and Ring of Honor and and. At the time there you know the audiences were far apart because of T and a's television but goddamn. Ring of Honor by out drew him at the fucking houses. But the point being if you're going to run a wrestling promotion you always want as much control serious national wrestling promotion. With television and you have talent under contract you always want as much control over them as possible. And when you. Say OK guys you can work out dates. We have right of first refusal on your dates. But you need to monitor to make sure that they're not. Being presented in the way that would be detrimental to. Your program. Because you do have it's like the old days the booking office. The booking office in Nashville would send somebody to Aniston Alabama. Because they were on a big time. Nashville TV. But it wouldn't be Jackie Fargo going to Aniston to do a job for fucking. Cougar in a second match. You want some control that's just business. But again with the way that things are. For Carlos Silva or anybody else in T and a not to have known. That if they're going to be working with the W.W.E. they need to clear this specific instance they don't care if. You know T and a is old dick fucking Tucker. Goes to work with some guy in Aniston. The W.W.E. doesn't care about that but if the guy in Aniston. Is a regular on Tony cons TV and people are going to stream it or have. Video or just because fucking we're closing the. Straight of Stanford. To the boats carrying talent that might benefit Tony con. That's not a surprise so why didn't they work this out beforehand. Instead of getting the guys hopes up selling tickets to the fans that want to see it. And causing this goddamn degree of embarrassment at this late date. Or as I said. There's one or two ways to look at this if the W.W.E. cleared it. And then went back on it then. Damn them all to hell their assholes. And if nobody thought to clear it with them. And apparently Carlos Silva is the puckered sphincter. We have a few quotes here. I see the wrestling news reported that Tony con and the media call for dynasty. Express frustration over the new TNA edict indicating that it had caught him by surprise. And he fully supported cooperation among wrestling promotions. Scott. Brigante. If I'm pronouncing that correctly. The owner of the California based independent promotion West Coast pro. Took the social media. And here's what he wrote. Working with talent on an independent level. After clearing everything and doing business. Only to have said talent pulled after the fact. High or low profile. Gives me zero reason to work with anyone from said company. Making said arrangements. When you have an understanding. I like the specificity this guy shows in his statements. When you have an understanding. And it gets cleared. All parties involved. Have weighed risks. To get it cleared by multiple channels. And by multiple companies. To then have said company go back on it. Is garbage. And a memorial show at that. So that's the quote there from. Scott Brigante and. This has just been emailed to us is this from today it's from today pat buck. I guess did an interview. I know pat buck from the pay he spent some time at OVW right after I had left but he's a nice young man. He works for a W as an agent I believe but he also owns create a pro which. Was the wrestling school that trained MJF and. Chris that lander and others and also I believe was promoting the MJF. Nick Nemeth match on Long Island. I don't usually speak on things like this. But this one's too ridiculous to ignore. TNA. Specifically Carlos Silva. Forced a change to the main event of our create a pro show three weeks out. After it was already approved and promoted. Not sure who that helps. And he goes on from there he says that maybe Carlos Silva could learn something from Tony Khan. About how to protect your brand while helping the overall scene. It's times like this I'm glad to work for someone who actually champions the entire sport. Not tries to shrink it. Well let's face it also Tony Khan doesn't say no to anybody about anything and oh you really want to do it it's your best friend to go ahead work for my competitor. And by the way Tony Khan's guys were going over and all these matches. We're going to be honest about it too. So I mean there is that little issue but yeah and that's the thing is you've got two opposite sides of the of the two extremes to polar opposites. In that Tony believes that they should all all the wrestling promotion should have the kumbaya like that big event in Japan where all the promotions got together and. The WWE aka TKO is like fuck everybody we're going to control this whole goddamn world. So there's got to be some friction in the middle between those two standpoints. That was a hell of a show you got to see Kante Kabashi as well as Ryuma Go versus the Nazi robot Nazi aliens I believe is what it was. You got everything from Japan on that one show. But what do you think of I guess one last thing about this. What do you think of Carlos Silva specifically being called out. Well Carlos. Oh I feel like doing the razor Ramon shaky fingers thing. Like anybody scared of Carlos Silva or the boys are scared of Carlos Silva or to be honest if Carlos Silva fired anybody from TNA would that be the biggest job they'd ever fucking lost. It's no that's it has to be that TNA approved this and Carlos Silva for better or worse for him at this point runs TNA. So if he approved it without checking with the WWE it's his fault. If he checked with the WWE and they said yes and now for whatever reason they've waited this long to say no. Then it's their fault. But it's one of those two fucking things. So we're going to have to wait to find out which one that is but I just I can't imagine that he would have thought that that was going to fly. And after let it get this far without contacting them. I think someone needs to steal that baseball hat off his off his head that'll teach him a lesson. He's another one of these new guys maybe the guys talked him into it. Swipe the cap. That's what I say. Yeah but maybe the guys talked him into it like oh yeah the boys would have do this it'll be a great thing and and he's new to wrestling and didn't understand what fuck he was actually doing. I don't know. But it's crazy crazy to me. But his goose may be cooked Brian. He may be just died fried and laid to the side. He may be simmered over an open flame by the wrestling fans for these decisions. Put it on pay per view. And I know who can sponsor it. Our friends at a hex clad. I've been waiting for this folks for the past couple of weeks. We have new friends at hex clad.com. H E X C L A D. 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It was no splatter because you don't have to turn it up to high so you're not blowing grease all over the goddamn kitchen in your face after usually wash my clothes after I fried things because I do get vigorous. It's a man it's like magic. Well don't laugh at me I'm trying to keep from being greasy. Listen these are nice I you know Suzanne's more of the cooking type than I am but I like looking at them and just touching them they they're so unique. And she went crazy over him you want to talk about something to make your wife happy. Hexclad and apparently makes delicious food because she's been cooking on them all week. We got the walk. We got the saucepan. We got another flying saucer thing. And everything is fantastic everyone's happy here. Oh and the eggs don't stick they're slicker than whale shit and an ice flow. And again you get the convenience of nonstick with the performance of stainless steel. You get the great sear you get heat control easy cleanup you and I again after I finish the burgers and let's face it. If you're going to fry something 90% of the time it's going to be a burger. I've got a pickle jar. That's not a provable. Oh come on are you are you at 90 are you an American are you an American man. You're an American man if you put something in a frying pan it's going to be a fucking cheeseburger 90% Cal must die Brian. But I've got a pickle jar. I got a jar here I got a big an empty pickle jar that I used to collect my grease. And normally it's a probably you got to scrape all the shit out of the pan and the bits and the scrubby parts and everything and into this jar. You just turn the hex clad pan up and it just just pours right into the jar and boom. Easy cleanup. Gordon Ramsay uses hex clad and doesn't even cuss about it and they come with a lifetime warranty so it is the last set of pots and pans that you're ever going to have to buy. 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Sometimes we reveal a lot about ourselves when we ask other people questions I guess is say there but once again they look nice make sure better half happy if you enjoy cooking you're going to enjoy cooking with these fine fine hexclad products Jim. Yes they look nice you can go out in public with them they won't embarrass you but inside the house boy they're they're hot. Hexclad.com slash J C E. That's right let them know you heard about it here. Or well you they could have heard about it over here also didn't have to be over there it could be over here. All righty then you know what we got to do now don't you Brian. I've said I'm clean and sober from the A. W. dynamite programming for two weeks now I haven't had to watch it it's easier to digest when you just read the recap on the interwebs. So for the sake of the people who are disappointed that I haven't been talking about them. I thought we would at least just read a brief recap of what they did on Wednesday just to make sure that everybody they're not lost now they can completely understand all of the A. W. story lines. Just clear as day if we keep them up to date right. I watched the show so I know kind of what's going on yeah. Oh so you're completely clear it up to date on everything that's happening. Not clear enough to date because even if I watched it the entire time and it wasn't on mute I still wouldn't understand some of the things but I see who shows up and then if I press mutant time sometimes I hear some of their names and. Yeah I mean it's not a priority anymore I have multiple monitors. It would be stupid for me not to have it on at this point. The only the only thing that you didn't say was you sneak out at night in the dark across the street and peep through the neighbor's window to watch their their TV is see it. You figure that Tony is my mistress. So apparently this will Osprey has got friends now because they opened the show with him jumping Dick the Boozer in the garage and the boar horseman jumped Osprey and then a car pulled up and will Osprey's friends all jumped out and got a big fight with the boar horseman. And Osprey's friends were I wrote these names down Brian just to let me know if I get them right. Callum Newman. Francesco Akira. Hinar. And the young lady we've seen a time or two before his significant other Alex Mountbatten Windsor. We've actually seen her on this program so she would be recognizable. Who the bloody hell are these other three people have not only have we ever seen them before but has their names ever been mentioned. Not only on this program but in public before and I actually tried to search for a picture of Callum Newman. Callum Newman. And good God if it's the guy that popped up. What the fuck in the world. He is the current IWGP World Champion the youngest in history 23 years old. Of course he is. He looks like a delinquent Louis Bacauley with a bad physique. Well again he's 23 there's always time to work on that and this was the first time I got to see Callum Newman. Have you ever heard of these fucking people. Have we been doing his podcast for 10 years. Have anybody ever written in and said hey have you seen what Francesco Akira is doing lately. No never. I've seen their names in print but I've never gone out of my way to see their stuff. The one guy with the face tattoos was disturbing looking but I don't know. I see I didn't I saw the I read the recap so I didn't get to see that he had tattoos on his face. It was a hell of a way to introduce a bunch of people a bunch of people who have never been on this show or never mentioned on this show. All of a sudden they are there. Car pulls up and here they are. Sort of looked like a car. They fought into the arena and then the baby faces ran the heels off and they made that for the main event. That's what I understand. This was probably took a while for him to do that though longer than it took me to say it. I would imagine correct. I think so. Yes. And did you hear what I get. I saw this on Twitter. Meltzer said well I don't understand you know why people were that these nobodies from nowhere. It just popped up. It used to be a big deal Dave said when stars from other territories came into Georgia to do the TBS show. Or what. They're not Terry Funk. The key is stars from other territories people that the fucking fans had seen before and know and miss or had read about in the magazines and always wanted to see. Or in some way recognized main event talent. Not Callum Newman Francesco Akira and Hanar. I don't I just don't know what the other two look like I was scared by the picture of Callum Newman that I just gave up but so that's the main event. I want to again we talked about this several days ago Kyle is hurt. And apparently it's bad enough just from a goddamn goofy double suplex spot in a match with two midgets. He's hurt bad enough he's had to vacate the T and a or T and a the T and T title. I read that it was so or men's kiss. Well at torn men's kisses no it's torn cartilage. I mean that kid there's a wide that's a wide description of guys have torn cartilage and work today later and guys have torn cartilage and had to have it scoped and you know it so but the point is just for about one little bit of a goofy thing he's vacated the belt because that it sounds like he's going to be out at least a month or more. Elsewise who would even notice. So they're going to decide a new champion in a casino gauntlet match at the end of the month. And I'm going to say that's a good thing. It sounds like he's going to be out at least a month or more. Elsewise who would even notice. So they're going to decide a new champion in a casino gauntlet match at the pay per view. They announced this four days before the pay per view. One would think that many of the top contenders might already be booked on the pay per view. So they're basically announcing whoever's not booked or have wouldn't booked previously is now going to fight for this fucking title. Am I I see I'm just reading what's reported on the Internet Brian am I misrepresenting this in some way was there some nuance I'm missing. No there's none. Kyle got hurt. Title has to be vacated the winner of a match where someone will get hurt will win the title. Now maybe you can lend some kind of having seen this. The next thing was a little bit confusing to read a description of yet a match with Andre and and Mark Davis and take a shit from the Don Fallis family against Darby Allen and Bandito and jungle jackoff. And the heels one and then the heels continued to beat up the baby faces until the buckaroos Maddie and Nikki came out and save the day with the super kicks but after they beat up the heels the heels came back and beat them up until two of the heels take a shit and the two of them started fighting with each other and while the rest of the heels were pulling those two heels apart. More baby faces the rascals came out and dove on everybody. What did I miss. I don't think you missed anything. Obviously Okada and Takesh to have their problems was this the part of the show where that happened where they started going at it with each other. Yes that's what they were but they were suddenly they just began fighting. Don Callis had just done a long promo in the back right before this talking about how they had no problem. And then they immediately had a problem right here in this and obviously that sets up the big tag match for the pay per view. Where they're they're going to team with each other not fight each other team with each other against the Bucks I think right. Yes because they can't have Kyle against and. Was it going to be Kyle and boring or Kyle and take a shit. I think it's a kester I think. OK well they can't do it now because he's hurt so. Chris Jericho is a baby face again now firmly we can establish established that he was in Edmonton. They're still in Canada and got out of Canada yet. And you know the old saying you're now entering Edmonton set your clocks back 20 years. So. So. He's the baby face that he did the raw ride he was to come back and be the best Chris Jericho he can be and then Ricochet came out and. Pissed him off and so now Jericho has put Ricochet on the list and they're wrestling at the pay per view. The long awaited confrontation between Chris Jericho and Ricochet. Did they just kind of make this up for one in one week so that Jericho to have a match. Well Jericho usually decides who he wants to work with so obviously he knew who he wanted to work with and Tony probably knew what Jericho wanted and this is the way they set it up because they only had him come back last week. Because he wanted to in his hometown he got a better reaction this week than he did in his hometown. I thought this was actually pretty good in terms of Chris Jericho promo he's playing baby face. So far you know a week in. Did a good job playing baby face to this crowd. The listing was interesting because Jericho has always been about evolving and sometimes to his detriment but he always has to change and you know again goes back to his ideas and everything. The list was something he did 10 years ago in WWE. It's just interesting that all of a sudden he would return to something that did work for him. Got him over as a pretty big mid card act in WWE. I don't mean that you know in a bad way it's just that's where he was with him and Kevin Owens at that point in WWE. It got over bigger than it should have and he got to ride that wave for quite a while. You know I don't know it's just interesting that they would go back to something that WWE I don't even know if WWE can claim it as intellectual property but just the idea that it's something he did that used to work and worked a lot better than everything he's done since. Well and that's the thing is he's good now. He's got to go back to the greatest hits and anything that will get people if he's going to be a baby face he's going to leave plenty of reminders of happier times when oh what in that great that Chris Jericho did this that the other thing and that was a few years ago. So yeah he's going to go back to that and I agree that he should do that. The question is I did him and Ricochet besides the fact that Ricochet is a little fellow that he can look big and throw around and I guess because he's a Weasley. He old Jericho's thinking oh I could get some heat by beating this guy. But at the same time all of the fans of that ilk think that the wrestling the wrestling has to be all the diving and the flipping and the roundoffs and the rolling about. And I hope Jericho is not going to try to do that shit with him because he'll shit the bed soon as he's come back. So you know but no Jericho needs to give us reminders of happier times. It is the golden years of his career as much as possible at this point so I wasn't surprised about that at all. And just the when he gets out of if Winnipeg which I've said before is the Kansas City of Canada then Edmonton is kind of like the Baton Rouge of Canada. Edmonton and Calgary that maybe the lab maybe the Carolinas of Canada the last bastion of old time wrestling fans who still like. You know the old days and remember them fondly whereas Winnipeg is the Kansas City of Canada because it's just a nothing happening fucking place. But when he comes back to this country and especially some of the bigger American markets that have had plenty of AEW and their persnickety people then we'll find out how persnickety they're going to be about about Jericho. You know who else is persnickety Brian what were you going to say there's more dynamite there was more dynamite there was more dynamite. That's why I'm persnickety. Tomaso Champa beat mascara Dorito to get to be the first person to go into the casino gauntlet match for the D&D title that Cal vacated when his partner fell on him. I'm calling so hopefully Champa will win the thing. And we'll just just act like Bobby Ewing in the shower or whatever and all this other shit didn't happen to start over with Champa. Invest in somebody some time and energy that's worth something instead of these fucking goofy children. Okay did you see Edge and Cage and their promo about FTR. I did. Did Cage really say that he fucked both of FTR's mothers. Yeah I mean this is the problem with Christian Cage's whole character and has been for a long time all of a sudden it became to get pops laughter and pops from the audience. He said that he went to FTR's mother's house and had sex with them. So he makes fun of people's dead fathers and then fucks their mothers who have to be in their 70s. It says a little more about him than he realized. Well now wait hold on now wait a minute there's 70s hold on now. Maybe not maybe not I guess. Taxi K well maybe well mid 60s you know just on an average. Well where did Mama Wayne go where did Mama Wayne with the large upper frontal protuberances the massive mammaries the incredible flotation devices where did Mama Wayne and her progeny that Snoop knows fucking slow eyed goddamn Nick Wayne go. I could be wrong but I think ring of honor. That's where that's where all the major mammaries go die. Well I think we're going to be on the top of the list of the most popular mammaries in the world. I think we're going to be on the top of the list of the most popular mammaries in the world. Did the American slow eyed goddamn Nick Wayne go. I could be wrong but I think the ring of honor That's where the major mammaries go die. But again we're talking here about this feud with FTR versus Coping Cage the feud that had Beth Phoenix get beat up her husband left Christian Cage babyface because he's helping his longtime friend even though he stole a douchebag heel. He left too, they were all gone. FTR did a whole number of other things. The whole time, never really established a heed on them. Certainly never established it on Stokely. No one reacts to him getting up. No, no, a bunch of other people just beat him up since Cage and Edge left. And then they came back and immediately beat him up their first night in. And now these guys are so mad that Christian Cage is doing comedy. That it's impossible for a legitimate adult heel to get mad about this guy saying this stupid shit. But no, you've you see now you've just mischaracterized the whole thing because they clearly explained that when Edge left Cage left in support of Edge because Edge had to go home and be with Beth until she was out of the woods. Remember they said that she just wasn't out of the woods for six fucking months. Apparently she's with Mercedes Monay. They live in Asheville, they'll never be out of the woods. Yeah, they're surrounded by woods. She wandered in, fuck we can't find her. Helicopters, goddamn National Guard, it's been months. The point is if she was on the goddamn verge of medical calamity for six fucking months. As you said, they come at blah, blah, blah. But in this case, after Cage exclaimed that he fucked Dash and Cash is Dash and Cash, Dash and Dine. There ought to be Dash and Dine. After Cage fucked Dash and Dine's mothers, then FTR and Rocky and Trent. Just the interchangeable heel thugs that are like a fucking Batman villains with their gimmick names written across their t-shirts. They're just here's thug and pal. They came out and beat both of them up and they pilmonized Cage's arm in the chair and then Stokely stole his watch. Well, there was a thing last week where Cope and Cage were mad and they were on the lookout for FTR and they went to their locker room because they have their own locker room, apparently. And instead of FTR, Trent and Rocky were in there hanging out. So then they got beat up by Cope and Cage. So this week was revenge for that. Well, he's caged me hanging out and you can't roller skate the buffalo herd either. I've heard that before. And then they had the chaos in Canada. See, this goes much better when I don't watch this show. I could just keep people apprised on what happened. Chaos in Canada, Dick the Boozer and the boar horseman against Will Osprey and the unknowns who knocked question mark and the mysterious off the charts in 1966. And they apparently had, and Brian, you can testify to this, a full on garbage wrestling match that started in the crowd with no DQ and no tags and ladders and stairs and tables and the babyface is one. So at least we don't have to carry this feud or angle on anymore because the babyface has got their resolution. Your thoughts. Now, this was on one of the monitors, but it was also on mute and Hulu was added LA law. So I've been kind of marathoning LA law for the first time in years. I love that show. It's really a great show. So I was watching more LA law than that, but it went on for a long time. It went on for a really long time. And I don't know how anyone could care about the death riders. You know, I understand that there's a fan base that likes Moxley. There's a delusional fan base that actually think he's really good in the ring. You could write down Randy Savage style exactly what John Moxley's match will be. And it will be exactly that to the minute to the second. Here is where he'll start trading forearms in the middle of the ring. 20 minutes into the match for no reason. It's always there. So yeah, that's. But now we're but now wait the new talent here. You didn't pay close attention to Callum fucking. What's his name? God damn, I've lost. I would like to. I heard good things about him. I've heard good things about him. He looks like you've crossed Gabe Kidd and Josh Alexander again and then left him floating in the river for three days. The picture that I saw. Oh, I don't know. The guy I saw had hair. You're describing a bald man. Hold on. Type it. I tried to. I I got a picture of him. I went to YouTube and all I got was his entrance theme and something from Japan. Yeah, I was talking to somebody. He was with a beard and a mustache and lots of hair. Who did you see? I thought he was bald. He just looked bald. I'm looking at these images. There's no bald images anywhere. Wait a minute. Hold on here. I've got a. Who did you see now? Now I need to know that. Let me get to my keyboard here. Callum Newman. IWGP World Champion. Callum Newman. Not Allen Newman. That's a friend of mine. No, Callum Newman. Well, hold on. Callum new. See, I've got. You've got a lot of stuff rolling. Is there a picture of him? Wikipedia don't have Callum Newman. Oh, he does have hair. Yeah, he still looks like he's fucking. He was there. Well, he looks very young. He looks very, very young. And I heard good things. So I wanted to see him wrestle. And this is not a match to judge him on. So I didn't pay too close of attention. Right. The first time you hear the first time you see someone you've heard about, you want to see them. You don't want to see them have a 20 minute brawl around the building. With the moxie. He looks like his picture ought to be on the side of a milk carton. All right. Well, they don't they don't do that anymore. I don't believe. Well, that's because people don't drink enough milk. People drank more milk than we wouldn't have these problems. Well, they don't really have to go to cartons anymore. Usually there wouldn't be there wouldn't be children missing all over the place with more milk drinkers. Anyway, I ain't drinking none of Callum's milk, but oh, there's one more thing. For some reason, they let Kenny talk again and then MJF came out and talked to him. And then apparently Kenny knocked MJF out. Are you excited about that big main event match coming up, Brian? I was more excited before they started doing their promos. And yeah, Kenny talks me out of wanting to see him wrestle, not into it. The Canadian fucking snaggle puss. It just doesn't work for me at all. And MJF just MJF in a vacuum is great. And he always brings himself down to everyone else's level or it's just what he likes. And the feuds. It's been a while since the last MJF feud that you're like, man, this whole feud from beginning to end is kind of right there. But it is what it is. And I'm sure it'll be a great match. I'm sure it'll be Kenny's best match. Did you you said that was it? Did you hear about the Tecla interview? Oh, I somehow skipped over. I think it was one of the backstage bullshit that even when I was reading the recap, I just skipped over that fall drawl because that happens so often. But was that I understand there potentially may have been a problem. Who knows? Because let me say this and I'll play you the audio. It's only a minute. It was just in the middle of nowhere. Lexi and Eir with Tecla. It's not a bad promo. It's not a bad promo. And I wouldn't have paid any attention to it. But once the word started going around and I'm not saying this is true because I don't know what the original source is. I heard people say it was Dave Meltzer. Nothing in the observer that I saw about this. But people were saying Tecla was drunk and that AEW is mad that she showed up drunk, which would make you say, well, why would they put the promo on TV? And then other people were saying, well, they didn't know she was drunk until the end. But it's a minute. It's a one minute promo. Well, even if they did it live, if they did it on tape, they'd have plenty of time to judge it either way. But if they did it live, somebody had to interact with her in the moments before she would have been doing that. And in which case they might have smelled something was off. So I don't, let's listen to it and see what it might be good. I'll say this. My opinion before we start playing, you'll form your own hearing it. I think it ends pretty good. And I think her intensity is pretty good. Whatever story she was trying to tell with Lexie Nair. I'm not sure if that was thought out well, but let's play this audio right here from AEW Dynamite on April 8th. Tecla is sick of Jamie Hader before dynasty. Let's go to this. Tecla, this Sunday at dynasty, you'll be defending your AW women's world championship against former world champion Jamie. If I have to hear how Jamie Hader used to be champion one more time, I swear to God, Lexie. I'll take you out for a nice seafood dinner, the finest whining and dining. And then I'll bring you to the strip club. I'll drag you up on the stage and I'll break every single one of your fingers. Jamie, the kingdom has changed since you ruled it. The only reason you touched this is because I wasn't here. But now that I'm here, you're never going to touch this again. When I arrived in AEW, the first woman I took out was you. Because I knew you'd be the easiest, but you kept on coming back. Not because you're the toughest, but because you are the dumbest bitch alive. So now I'm done playing games. I am done having a good time because now at dynasty, you're going to be the dumbest bitch. Well, there it is. What do you think of the promo? I think she needs to take a couple of shots of Jack Daniels every week before TV. Not bad. Because she's from where she's from Germany, right? Or somewhere in Austria. English is her second language, I assume. She's got a slight accent, but you can understand everything she's saying and she had intensity. And she fucking that that to me, like I said, if she's drunk there, liquor that girl up every week. I want to hear more of that. And I like her accent. I think the accent goes well with like a crazy female promo like that. The part about taking Lexi to the strip club after a seafood dinner to break her fingers. I'm not exactly sure what I had to do with anything else. Well, and you know what? That's think about this. That's something that's missing from the business is the whether the heels or the baby faces that would come out and say something just completely outrageous and crazy. And and it you would think, well, that's nuts. But from them, you didn't know what to think, right? Maybe that's the way they are. That was it took an interesting turn. But this girl sounds creepy. So she's creepy. I don't, you know, it doesn't all have to make sense if it sounds like that it's not. For for any kind of gimmick in wrestling. You can't sound like you're acting silly or acting tough or acting funny or act whatever it has. You have to sound like you are silly or you are tough or you are funny or you are weird. As long as it doesn't come off like you're just making shit up and trying to be somebody from the planet Zambodia. Anything can work. I like that. I think that one minute 16 second promo was the highlight of dynamite this past week. There you go. Congratulations, that guy. You're the you're the girl that wins the prize for the only one minute of dynamite that was worth a shit. And again, this is the problem with rumors going around. The first comment here. Who's here after finding out she was drunk while doing this? And that everyone's saying that. That drunk breath must have been hot considering the interviewer's face. Tecla drunk is a better promo than 95% of the wrestlers today. So everyone seems to like it but I don't know if she was they wouldn't have put it on the air if she shut up drunk and they were mad at her over it would they? I again, you wouldn't have if it if it was pre-taped you wouldn't have put it on the air if you thought she was drunk and if it was live people would have been interacting with her beforehand. You know, and would I would think that something was up. So I don't know who knows who knows with all of these people. I don't want to be for anybody or again anybody because you never know with any of these people. No, you don't. And that was a W dynamite. It certainly was and the pay-per-view is coming up as we sit here imminently within just a 36 hours or whatever and we're watching it. You. MJF and Kenny Omega. MJF and Kenny Omega that's a big match. Oh, like that's going to tickle my taint. Kenny may. Kenny may do that for you. Just ask. Well, I don't I think I'd rather have another tickler. Maybe a French tickler. Maybe old Jacques Shane McMahon. Nevertheless, it's your show the drive through that we would normally talk about this on. So I will acquiesce to you and watching the major matches to to that further the way that the wrestling business is progressing. But don't expect me to go into detail on. Well, no, I think because you have the majority of the 14 matches, I'm sure we're going to see. I think because you have not been watching dynamite, you should watch some of this stuff you would normally skip just so you can critique it in a different way. I don't I refer back to my mental health. Jim, we got letters. We got letters all the time. People who say that your dynamite reviews help them make them happy. Help them get on the bus or get on the bike. Jump in the car, perhaps head over to the train. Jump in front of the bus. Jump in front of the car. Run the bike off a cliff. We stop it now. Come on. We'll we'll meet somewhere in the middle of that in in in betwixt. Shit. The shine. Oh, all right. Don't forget. We'll do there. Don't forget. There's a pre show. Well, that may be some of the shit if not a little of the shine. So we'll we'll see what happens, but we'll I'll do some of that for you, my friend. But now. I guess we should do other things. But you know, Brian, I'll tell you what the thing is if whether people are drinking or whether they're sober or whether they're. Old or young or tall or short or whatever kind of people. There comes a time you're going to have to get away from wrestling. You're going to whether whether you're a big fan of it or whether you're in the business of it, whatever, you're going to have to get away from this shit because it's going to drive everybody crazy. And once everybody cracks up, they're going to need to find a new business. A new endeavor, a new line of work, a new thing to occupy their time and to throw their resources into. And that's where Shopify comes in. You see what I did there? I segued right into a brand new business, avoiding that delinquent on the bicycle. Folks, Shopify is the commerce platform behind millions of businesses around the world. 10% of all the e-commerce in the United States and growing. As a matter of fact, this is old copy. Understand they're up to 12.7% right now because they are the partner that you need. A built in business partner, not a tag team partner. It's going to stab you in the back and turn on you on pay per view, but a business partner that's going to be there till the end. He's going to have his arm around you. He's going to take you under his learning tree because Mr. Shopify, you know, Mr. Shopify is just like that, that fancy Dan fellow on the monopoly game with the top hat and the spectacle and he's got money falling out of his pockets. And you want to slide up next to somebody that's got money falling out of their pockets. And that's Mr. Shopify. He's going to tell you all the things that you need to know about how to sell your product or make your dream become a reality. Mr. Shopify is your commerce expert managing inventory, international shipping, email and social media campaigns, a marketing team behind you. And Mr. Shopify will also roll up his sleeves and help you create that dream website of yours and as a award winning 24 seven customer support. You know, that is Brian Mrs. Shopify. She sits there and answers the phone every time somebody has a problem while Mr. Shopify is out fixing everybody's lives and making their dreams come true. Have you seen Mrs. Shopify? I have not seen any of this and also I think and also I think it's important to note that the Shopify family of characters are not official spokespeople or official mascots of Shopify. Well, no, they've signed it over to the board of directors now and they've, you know, they've got I think I think the rock is on the Shopify board also. He's on all of them. But but Mr. and Mrs. Shopify still they'll pitch in and they'll help you and you'll your dreams folks will become a reality. You'll have your own business, your own empire, your own bank account, your own place to live, your own dog or cat or Ocelot or Wallaby and a happy life. And you'll be able to sit in the window and fire a slingshot at that kid on that bicycle. Go right now to your computer, your phone, your laptop, wherever it is you get on the internet looking through your neighbor's window and punching buttons with his code when he's not around. And go to Shopify.com slash JCE. You're going to get a $1 a month trial period where for the meager poultry sum of $1 for a month's period of time, Shopify is going to show you what they can do for you and Brian, has there ever been a dollar better spent in the business world? That's a hard to answer question, especially with the changing value of the dollar over the last 150 years specifically in the business world. But well, $24 for Manhattan probably was if you divided that by 24 and then pro rated for the for the interest. Yeah. Okay. But a dollar a month folks. It's great. It's a great deal. And of course we trust Shopify and you can too. Shopify.com slash JCE. Yeah. So's your old man. All right. Anyway, I guess now we should take a brief break so that we can come back and inform the people on what in the world happened on Smackdown. All right. All right. It was a bumpy ride, but we have gone through Earth's atmosphere and we've returned. Well, I guess it's time travel. It's not planetary travel, but we are well, that's what I don't know where you were taking a trip to there with that. That sounded good. It sounded like the batteries were running low in the boom box of a fucking Chinese massage parlor soundtrack. That's kind of my sound. I don't know who you are to judge it, but we are here in the future for the benefit of the future. And of course, I guess I rubbed you the wrong way with that. Huh. Just like in the massage. That's right. All right. So anyway, we yes, we're in the future now, but we're talking about what's just happened in the past on Smackdown. I swear to God, I think that the most vindicated human being now is young Brian Jesse James Armstrong, otherwise known as the road double dog need get diddy, giddy, whatever the fuck he used to say. As soon as everybody was like, oh, we hate road dog. We ate road dog. He's the shit. As soon as he fucking quit says, I'm going home to spend time with the kids. This show's gone in the fucking toilet. Have you as as you have you noticed that? Is there any correlation? Did he know what was coming? Well, again, like we said, when he left, he never wrote his show like no one does when they work there. They wrote the show that their boss wanted and he apparently left on his own accord. He heard something or knew something about the direction things were going. And he just said, you know what? I don't need this money. I'm going to go home. And the show has become bizarre in a lot of different ways. Well, they were in San Diego and that's bizarre enough on its own. Now, the people did not seem deliriously happy to be there like they were just a scant few months ago. Right. Is it is it just that that town or is it it's early in the day? They weren't warmed up yet. What San Diego is a good town. That audience seemed like they were in North Korea. They just sat there like they had to be there. They didn't leave, but they also didn't move, breathe or react at times. There was some element of they booed. McAfee. All right. But it wasn't like they were enjoying booing him. They were like, no, no, no, no, no. Like the fucking gallon of plain with Stan Lane's balls in his face. No, no. I guess I should I tell the story now or just leave it there? I've told the story before. I don't want to get sidetracked. We'll we'll tell it another time. Oh, yeah. So anyway, they recapped last week with McAfee and Orton and Cody and that whole thing. They reminded us of it. And then right out in the back of the building, oldest tells Cody, don't put your hands on McAfee. That order comes from above me. So again, they're they're acknowledging this and trying to work it in as they say. And should we should we mention that I don't know that we did on the last show. We talked about it that when Cody had come back out and cut that fired up promo, that wasn't originally on the on the schedule last on the format last week. It was an unscheduled promo. They're saying now and he got a chance to go out and vent a bit. Was it a call on the fly? Did he go back there and say, hey, I'm going to go back to the show? Go back there and say, hey, I just spent goddamn 10 minutes laying on my fucking back in the middle of the ring with you guys beating on me while you talked me to fucking death. It can. You know, did he demanded or did somebody else say, oh, we got to save this somehow? I would almost think it's more of a triple H thing. They shoehorn McAfee and the my creative. And then he went out there, got on the mic and said, everything now sucks. It should go back to the way it was 30 years ago. And the reason we can't sell tickets is all of this. That's what he said. So I think they said, what the fuck? Like he didn't just turn heel. He decided to turn heel on. You know, gorilla. He turned heel on them. And well, and now there there's a controversy over who it was that told him he could say that because there was a allegedly a writer attributed to the segment, although that that thing was ghost written by everybody. But they did. Apparently somebody told McAfee he could say that shit, but nobody in creative knew he was going to say that shit. And so far we have not officially heard who told him to say that shit. And here's the thing. I love the god damn it. This is what I've been saying all along that the fans want is people going into business for themselves and saying shit that they're not supposed to say and turmoil like that. But but they've taken it and done the absolute crummiest direction of it with the absolute worst deliverer of it. That you could possibly imagine. So is this be careful what we wish for or it's just they don't even know how to fucking tell the truth. Right. That was profound, wasn't it? It was very profound. I think we're going to find out about a lot of this on WWE Unreal at some point in the future. But not that it's the same thing. But remember Travis Scott slapped the shit out of the show. Because the rock told them just go out there and if you're going to do it, make sure you really do it. Need to tell anyone else he said that that was the rock independently given him advice. So. Well, but this is it. I don't know if they'll make it to unreal or not at this rate. But anyway, so all this is saying, hey, the order comes from above at the top of this program here that nobody knows. Nobody knows who above is except we know who above is, but they won't say who above is. And they're trying to authority figures again. That's where they will. That's where we're at again. See, I don't even know if it's that. I don't even know if it's that I'm wondering if Ari and Mark and Nick and the other guys and Nick and these guys and Dwayne. But I mean, if he was going to show up, I think he's staying far away from this. I don't think he I think he realizes he don't need this. But I don't think he wants wrestling fans seeing him right now smaller than he was a year ago. Well, I don't think he wants to be seen in the middle of this right now. But point being, if these executives have been swept up in, oh, OK, well, we'll make it all part of the story and it'll be intrigued. And they're getting their Hollywood mixed up with their wrestling. And I'm not saying they're going to be on camera or anything like that. But it's they may think that the fans want all of this bullshit intrigue with all of these people who have more money than they'll ever see on television in their lives. In getting it and the celebrities. And again, we're starting to use celebrities and quotation marks because, god damn. Oh, now they're just part time fucking wrestlers. Yeah, Jelly Roll is there every week. He was here as soon as Haldis tells Cody, you can't put your hands on Pat McAfee. That comes from above. Then Jelly Roll comes in and he's even more pissed and fucking Cody is. I'm going to do something about this. God damn it. It's just Cody is following me. We're going to goddamn know Haldis said, no, you got to stay out of it, too. And then Jelly Roll is the one. Since he's the wise old sage of fucking Tennessee. He's given Cody a pep talk, giving him the advice. I don't know what the god damn it. I think that he was a musician and not a wrestler first because he does a good promo. I gotta give him that. He's really committed to it. But then you're like, why is the musician showing up every week on Friday? It's a Friday. He doesn't have a gig. Keep showing up on Fridays and then he keeps giving all the wrestlers these fucking pep talks like he's a youth pastor. And well, it's not even it's not even joke about things like that because. I'm not saying it like in a dirty way or anything. It's just it's. Oh, I mean, well, you never know about these things. Who knows what we're going to be finding out because I'm here. And here's the thing. I just think you're saying in a dirty way. OK, you see, yes, you say you said fucking Jelly Roll like he wished he'd been a wrestler because he had he cuts such a good promo. I'm saying look what he used to look like. And I'm going to pop you and three other people in the world. He's from Tennessee. Look at him now. What he used to look like and tell me that he couldn't be the illegitimate son of Ronnie Pegas. I don't know. That doesn't disprove anything I said. It may be a. I mean, it may have been impossible on a on a sexual. I don't know what woman Ronnie spent a lot of time and Ronnie spent a lot of time in Tennessee. I'm just saying that I think Jelly Roll's last real name. Well, I don't know if that was Ronnie Pegas. It's real name. Folks, just Google a picture of Ronnie Pegas in the US WA in like what? Nineteen. Oh, no. 89. I would say don't do that. Go to YouTube and search for Ronnie Pegas in the US WA 89 90 91. So there you go. Nineteen ninety. All the monsters. It's ridiculous. There you go. Jelly Roll's father. But anyway, never. What a feud that was. Oh, good Lord. And made Bert looks felt. All right. So back to this fucking fiasco. That's the way they've set this show up is that Cody's there and McAfee's gonna be there and Jelly Roll's there, but they're not allowed to touch. They're getting into a W territory. Also, right with as well, nobody's allowed to interfere specific times. Well, if you can stop it, then you can stop it anytime. Now they've just said, well, if the fucking boss of the company just said, nobody's allowed to fight, they could never fucking fight. So then we're going to skip over a couple of things and just hit the interesting parts of this program. How I don't even know about interesting being a proper word, but you can't see Rhea Ripley now without seeing EO Sky. Rhea does the in ring interview and it's about EO to jet. You attacked my EO. EO. And then EO came out with constipation face and they set up EO and Jade in the main event, but Christ, I thought when they broke up the team and put Rhea back in the title picture, we didn't have to see this, this little conjoined twin hanging off of her fucking hip. Nope. It's not going away. And then Bailey wrestled Alexa. And then there was a lot of stuff backstage and then we get to Royce Keys. We get to Royce Keys. Brian, who could have thought the guys got a great backstory? He grew up in poverty, but he had the family that took care of him, but he's been shot at or shot or his brother was shot or the story that he tried to tell once four years ago on A.W. and then they fucking switched him heel. I don't whatever the fuck. Here it is. Here was the video. He's from down the road in East Palo Alto and they had the family pictures and the story and basically they have told his true backstory that was true when he was powerhouse Hobbes, but in two minutes they conveyed more of it here than they did in five years in A.W. Or am I just imagining this? No, there was some production behind this. There was some time obviously they put in putting this together. I thought it was really well done and we have not seen him at all. Royal Rumble and then they promoted him being on Stephanie's podcast because that's obviously a priority. And now this, I think the video was really strong. Doing it in his hometown or as close to it as you could be. Great idea. I don't know if I would have had the match go as long and be as competitive because I don't think that served anyone, but other than that, this was a promising debut. Well, in the match and we don't want anybody to think it was 20 minutes long or whatever, is him and Berto, who's partners with the other fucking guy. I forget who they have. Yes. And they're, yeah, he was just there, but at the same time, Royce did the power stuff, then the heel distracted him. The other heel posted him. They got a little heat. He made his comeback. He nailed the other heel. He hit the spinebuster boom, one, two, three. It was okay. There was nothing wrong with it. And I don't even know honestly if it was the fact or as you said that it was long. It wasn't too competitive. It just seemed, it seemed longer than it was and it seemed more competitive than it was because I think he's got to loosen up. Hobbs. I'll get used to keys later on. He needs to show more aggression. It is body language and in his emotion. And remember when Jacob Fai too first came in, he was, he was getting ready to be a beast unchained right now. They've cleaned him up and buried him more on that later. But since if Hobbs had been more and had more of that old fucking, you know, attitude era type of fire to him, then even if you get posted and you're down, you've still got to try to be fighting your way back up. And when you're on the offense, there needs to be more and more urgency in your body language. I think that's what he was missing here that made it seem more competitive or a little bit longer than it actually was. I think he's got to be more competitive. Or a little bit longer than it actually was. Does that make sense? It does. And again, they also brought him in as a baby face and video aside. In the past from what we've seen of him, he is stronger as a heel. So maybe this is also an adjustment. Well, I would think he's been hopefully trying to adjust in the PC somewhere. But I'm not talking about being an animalistic heel type. I'm just talking about being a badass. They want to see more or at least if he's going to start out, you know, fucking big and strong, but kind of calm, then they need to have a point where he snaps. There needs to be a big transition because something needs to happen. What gets under his skin when somebody gouged his eyes the third time? Well, goddamn, now you've gone too far or whatever. And then he snaps because he needs to just when he's making that comeback and he's hitting all that shit, he needs to be more oomph. Anyhow, speaking of more oomph, Pat McAfee, pulled up in the back, Brian. Do you have a cold drink? Do you have a pillow for your chair? This is going to be a while. Are you are you all comfortable? Yeah, I have a cold drink and there's no pillow for my chair. But well, I'm just safe here. You know, I want everybody to settle in because we're going to be here for a while because McAfee got more television time than Nixon did during the fucking Watergate hearings. So McAfee pulls up and Aldous tells him because he asked, yes, I've spread the word, nobody can touch you. And then jelly roll rolls up and jelly is hot and asking McAfee, did you tell Randy to RKO me? You shouldn't even be here. You're not a part of our business. Or is it that McAfee said, was McAfee said that? I can't remember. I just jotted down not a part of our business question mark. But jelly roll, Jack's Pat McAfee up against the wall and Aldous is separating them from this argument they're having. And I'm saying this is this is just not good. It's non wrestlers doing wrestling angles. Yes. And it looks like it. It looks it looks like the wrestling school. Local cable access TVs you see. Or even OVW in current day. Guys, non wrestling people that have watched wrestling doing wrestling angles. But it was nine o'clock. So the McAfee's the ratings juggernaut, Brian. So that's why they sent him out to the end. Did you hear that apparently the this was even changed? Originally this would the the information that's floating around the internet. That this was originally scheduled for later on in the show, but they shuffled the fucking format to get this on earlier and put E.O. Sky and Jane Cargill in the main event. So they really count on this nine o'clock. I wish we got quarter hours still. But now McAfee goes to the ring and we talked about the crowd not particularly being a demonstrative crowd in relation to some that have, you know, some they've had here recently. But the people were booing him. But what I said earlier, I think they they weren't having fun booing him. Were they? Did it sound to you? It was like, no, no, please, no. It was a we don't want this boo as opposed to a boo was more boo. Like they didn't want this and it got worse and worse the longer it went. A sort of a grown booing. I mean, or its next level great because I never thought to have the heels put down everyone and then offer a discount. The fuck? Yeah, well, like you're all a bunch of idiots. But if you need a great deal, I got a deal for you. I got I got it. I got to get there first because the people who didn't see this have to have the whole scope of the meaning of the context of this thing. He comes to the ring. He calls San Jose a shit hole, which was bleeped. But he flipped the crowd, the double fingers. And then of course he knew it. He knows enough, you know, to he knew that when he mentioned CM Punk's label, I you people are the kind of people that chant for CM Punk that they would chant CM Punk, CM Punk. But then he cuts the promo on punk. Talking about the pike bomb that he did talking about lowering the ticket prices and blah, blah, well, hey, what was he wearing? He was wearing all of his merchandise. He's got 280 things on sale on the website. So where does all that money go? Does it go to the needy wrestle media families or does it go to punk's? I'm sorry, Saudi Arabia fund. So now he's literally burying the top fucking baby face. First of all, you said it a lot more coherently than he did because I was trying to follow that. No, it took him about three or four minutes to get that out. Yeah. And it's fair game to criticize punk for that Saudi Arabia thing. But if you were going to do it, you have to be able to do it. It just it was a struggle for him. And then it didn't get the big reaction because a lot of people don't even know what he's talking about. Well, that's and I'm sorry, I was more succinct. I was trying to save the people's fucking feelings out there listening to us unlike him. But but yet. But the point is he was when you're buried, not even punk a buried about Saudi Arabia. It's the money he's making. Oh, yeah, he could come out and say lower the he's. Punk got to a baby face response for saying they ought to lower the ticket prices and is. I mentioned before that was a great baby face line. But then the heel counters by reminding the people that they're buying punk's merchandise and he gets money from that. That's not the right light to paint the baby face in. And he came out and said, I'm on the side of the owners. You know, as opposed to the players. This whole thing was if you actually try to follow it and make sense of it, you know, in terms of what's right, it contradicts itself like almost every other sentence. Well, the next thing it talks about punk when he when he gets in front, however, he phrased it punk for the bosses rolls over like a little bitch. But I'm a man of action. If punk says the ticket prices are too high. If I swear to God, he said this, I'm trying to jot this down in shorthand. If it wasn't for Randy Orton, why would anybody want to spend money on WrestleMania? And I wrote, he knows how to be a heel, but not the right things to say. Because it's not even his fault. McAfee still knew it this not the athletic part, but the fucking main event level vocal performance part. Remember what Jerry Jarrett told me the first time I was ever on TV when I was giving an award to Jackie Fargo. I said, should I give him the introductions like the biggest box office attraction? No. We don't want to remind the fans how much they paid to see Jackie Fargo. We want to remind them how much they loved him and how great a wrestler he was. The heel brags about how much the people paid to see. So he basically said that he called their spot Ram Trucks, which I guess is sponsoring something around here. And he got a 25% discount off the Saturday night WrestleMania show now until the end of Raw. So the whole weekend for that, but then told people, Sunday, don't spend any money. Don't even don't spend any money to see Sunday. Just get 25% off Saturday to see Randy Orton win the title. It just there's no, are they letting him just blur these things out? Or is the again, Ari Emanuel, who is his agent and chief, you know, president of his fan club, is he so, yeah, say shit like that because Ari Emanuel, they don't understand the exact intricacies of wrestling logic. And I don't know who is not the one who is not the one that doesn't understand this. But somebody doesn't understand this. So before Cody comes out, tell me what you think so far. I was waiting to see what this was going to be because they saw the reaction they got from everyone last week. And I was blown everything you said. I kept getting more and more blown away. I'm like, oh my God, he's when he buried the idea of paying for Sunday, which on its face is ridiculous because if you're going to Vegas for Saturday, you know, the whole idea is you're going to do both. Oh yeah. But again, he's burying the baby faces. He's burying the fans. And then he's like, let me give you this great deal from our sponsor. It buries the sponsor. They didn't think of that. It buries the sponsor. And then it also reeks of desperation. We're a week away from WrestleMania, 25% off for a ticket. It'll be 50% off in the middle of the week, I bet. They should have got Don West to come out and do a home shopping fucking thing in a box in the corner of the whole show. And right now it's 82% off. It's until the end of Raw. Who's going to show up on Raw and offer a different discount? I mean it. It's either has to be punk, right? It has to be a baby face punk. Maybe Cody, but probably punk. But someone has to be a baby face go, this discount lasts the rest of the week. We're not going to let Pat McAfee take this discount from you. But here's the point that I was going to make more succinctly. He doesn't know you're right. He doesn't know what to say. And that's the point I was going to make when I went off on a tangent. I'll make it more succinctly. After he cussed the people and he's obnoxious and he had been droning on for a while at this point, by the time that he got to announcing the discount, I was thinking to myself, the average person has to be going, fuck your discount, take your fucking discount, shove it up your ass. I wouldn't see you for free, motherfucker. They booed him in the building when he announced his discount for this event in another city. When the Heel announces deal for other people somewhere else, they booed him. So anyway, then that's when Cody's music played. Yes, folks, we're still going. And he got the big entrance and the people didn't go nuts. Like it's a part of a pattern. I'm not saying he's the only one, but it wasn't the whoa that we were getting just until recent times. But he did get a pop with when he said, Pat, I don't think you belong here. And boy, that kind of is what everybody's thinking. And he did the the only promo that he really could do in this. You are a play wrestler doing catchphrases from 30 years ago. We need to get you a replica belt and let you do your favorites in Prince and then go back to whoever stuck you in here and say, thank you, daddy. Because Pat McAfee, the modern day George Gullis, he said, who would have thought that Ari Emanuel would be Nick? So then Cody says he quoted Paul Bosch because now they're trying to do the inside stuff too. And he said they're they're not marks, they're customers. But Cody did because you could tell because he's probably trying to have a healthy outlet for the pissed off in us. He must have now he could have fired up promo. And basically when you grow up and everything you have is because of the customers, they're my family point at the fans and defended the. Our business somewhat from this interloper and then. Said for the first time ever, the entire wrestling fandom agrees. They don't want to see you at WrestleMania, Pat. They want you to go home and appeal like go home, Pat, go home, Pat. And I thought it was a great way to answer that. And I said, well, I'm not going to go home. And I feel like go home, Pat, go home, Pat. And I thought it was a great way to end. That wasn't the end. Did you think it was the end, Brian? I thought it was the end. I thought that was the go home one. Yeah, it wasn't the end. Because then Pat said, I am home. I was born to be here. And then he points out that Cody is the fakest dude on earth. His fake tan and his teeth and his hair and a $10,000 suit and a cosplay chair. Anything he can do to drive a wedge in between Cody and the family of fans that he has just roused up with his promo, McAfee is just completely shredding. And he's got a message for Cody at his inbred family. If Orton doesn't leave WrestleMania as champion, you'll never see me in this business again. And the fans start chanting, go home, Pat, go home, Pat. And I'm thinking, wow, that was a pretty strong thing to end on. They didn't end. It wasn't over yet. Was it over, Brian? That wasn't over. And also the stipulation all but promise that Pat McAfee on this show isn't over either. Well, exactly. And they have pretty much one would think with that guaranteed unless it's some bullshit that they've lied about guaranteed that Orton's going to win the belt, which we said about three weeks ago or two weeks ago before this nightmare occurred. That's that if the people want to see that and the place's roof's going to blow off. I don't know whether now that they want to fucking see that or not. But nevertheless, it's not over. More than one way, because Cody told Pat that he was high. He said, I guess you're stoned. Take off your glasses. What I don't. And they need to get good through out there and put you to sleep. And I'm thinking, well, how the fuck is good through because I'm thinking here comes good through to put him to sleep. I'm like, how are they going to make sense out of that? And the people pop. People are like, yeah, we want to pop. Yeah, we want to come out and put him to sleep. But then Cody turned to leave the ring and I'm like, well, wait. What the fuck. And I still don't know how to get there. I still don't know how I don't know why that was the line that he chose to turn and leave on. But Pat. As Cody is walking out is still on the microphone. And he's getting bleeped some more. I don't know what the fuck he's saying. Are you going to suck triple H his ass? That didn't get bleeped. And Cody takes his coat off and he's coming back to the ring now. And right as he gets back to the ring, and he's going to do something about this tirade that McAfee is given. Orton's on the screen. I'm like, oh Christ, on a cracker. It goes on. Orton is saying, hey, look down here and the camera pans down and there's jelly roll right thing in pain on the ground looking like a deflated Macy's parade balloon. Come get your boy. Oh, hey, I'll bring him to you. So he started grabs jelly roll by the leg. He starts dragging him out. I could admire jelly rolls commitment to his fucking art here. Because you don't have to get drug across the stage when you're a singer. Thankfully for Orton's benefit, he's lost that 250 pounds. Either Orton would have sprained his back or thrown his shoulder out again or jelly rolls leg would have popped out like one of those power town figures. So anyway, Orton drags jelly out into the arena and Cody goes down to the aisle to help jelly. And of course, Orton takes off. Well, then McAfee distracts Cody so that Orton can come back out and glom him from behind. Yes, ladies and gentlemen, it's still going on. Orton beats up Cody. Hey, getting the ring and Pat throws some cheap shots and then jelly. Oh, jelly. Jelly. How I love you. How I love you. My dear old jelly. Jelly gets up. And zombie walks to the ring. His clothes are all ripped. He's a warrior, folks. And as McAfee gets up on the apron, as McAfee comes to punch him. Because you know, jelly roll obviously has been working out with the undertaker. Jelly Roll just reaches out and snatches Pat. Now you've got this goddamn. I don't care how much weight he's lost. Nobody can term this again, fat, fucking inflated skin bag as an athlete. And McAfee at least was a goddamn NFL. Star punter, as they say. Maybe it's the UK definition of a punter. Jelly Roll reaches out and snatches McAfee by the neck like it's the undertaker, snatching some druid. And McAfee just hold. Oh, he's frozen in pain. And then fucking Orton has to nail jelly to save McAfee. And then Cody gets up and fights back. But this sounds more exciting when I'm saying it than it was on screen. It wasn't like happening with urgency. And the people weren't screaming and jumping up and waving shit in the air. It was just going on. And then McAfee stopped Cody and Orton DDT'd Cody. And then McAfee saw the belt and handed the belt to Orton. And Orton waited for Cody to stand up and then he hit Cody over there with the belt. And then they stood there. I think this I believe it was 23 minutes from start to finish. I lost a little bit of track there, but it seemed so much longer. Yeah, counterproductive, bad. Not getting the reactions I think that they hope for. For fans at home, this is a sad reality of what they're building towards. The big tag match with Cody and Jelly versus Randy and Pat McAfee. And no, let's not let anybody think that you're kidding. You're not ribbon here. This is what allegedly they're planning for the May Pay Per View. Coincidentally enough, a lot of the fans are planning to do other things for the May Pay Per View. I mean, this whole thing is a real sad exposure of TKO and what they think of their wrestling property. I'm not going to lie, hearing about all this over the last week and hearing that Aria Manual from the top is getting involved because whether it's they care about WrestleMania ticket sales, this hasn't done anything to help ticket sales. In case no one's noticed, like nothing they've done in the last two weeks has caused a large amount of people to go, you know what, maybe we should go to Vegas. But obviously their priorities are different than the wrestling company. Pat McAfee is being told to go out there and say whatever he wants. Who's telling him that? And if Aria Manual is making these decisions, how much is he still talking to Vince? Because now it's kind of been exposed in these text messages that came out at least a few years ago. That was the biggest fear they had, Paul Avec and Nick Khan. Well, more Paul Avec. Vince is still talking to Mark Shapiro. Vince is still talking to Aria Manual. Their attitude is what's wrong with him giving notes? What's wrong with him sitting in every now and then? You have to wonder how much of their thoughts on things come from you have to wonder. No, not on this. No, no, no. I get on the creative. Go shit on everything happening. No, no, no. Hold on, hold on, hold on there, cowboy. I'm thinking you're saying that Vince is just purposely telling him stupid shit to do now? That may be one thing. No, I'm saying that he may be one of the voices Aria Manual is listening to. That's above Paul. No, I'm saying that there's no way that he would have Pat McAfee and Jelly Roll. I'm saying that Aria Manual, who represents fucking Pat McAfee, who is apparently thinks he's the next Sylvester Stallone action hero in Hollywood. Is that the description it's going around now? Is that what you've heard? That's what I've heard. I believe even Dave Meltzer heard that because he put it in the observer. It's ridiculous on its face. Aria Manual is one of the most successful, if not the most successful agents in the history of show business. But Pat McAfee is he's not Rocky Balboa. He's the drunk uncle at the house party on that episode of Freaks and Geeks. Whatever the case, the fact that all of all of the sudden, as they say, here comes McAfee and he's at everything and Emanuel is his agent and Jelly Roll, you don't think they because for whatever reason this deformed Cretan saying, sells this amount of music. They want him under control where they can somehow plumb the depths of his worth just to their corporate bottom line. And so they're getting them and he's a wrestling fan and he's living his dreams. They're getting them all in this goddamn thing. And they're going to figure out a way to make $20 billion with a four way all male gang bang video with Jelly Roll, Pat McAfee, Cody Rhodes and Randy Orton with a special guest appearance from fucking Nick Aldous. Nick Aldous, leave him alone. What did he do? He's got to bring in all the fucking dildos. So in terms of who Aria Manual is listening to, what about Joanne Johnson? I don't think it. I don't think Aria Manual is listening to anybody. I think he is the reason why because he likes Pat McAfee and he has put Pat McAfee in this because now they've got the bug. They got the booking bug. They've got the Hollywood guys have finally gone Hollywood on wrestling and they think they can do this too. And then when they heard that there was controversy, are they? Oh, yeah. You talk about the higher ups and yes, you know, this will be great. We'll get all kinds of talk on ESPN. I'll tell you something. Every single time Pat McAfee talks WWE or has a WWE guest or performs as a heel on his show on ESPN, I think he loses fans. I don't think it's the other way. He's not a heel. He's not a good heel gimmick. He is a good Raw Raw cheerleader kind of cheerleader. He's a cheerleader. Ex-Jock fan color commentator. Yo softball questions. Doesn't ask anything difficult. You know, he's a soft landing spot for WWE if they want to put something out there. They know they can go to Pat McAfee and he'll play ball. But I mean, just as a wrestling gimmick, it's good. It's OK if he's the energetic. I love the WWE and hey, yeet, yeet, all that. He's personable in that way as a heel gimmick. He's fucking rotten. Fucking rotten says somebody he knows might say. You know what we need, Brian? What do we need? We need something that can give us a kind of a McAfee free experience when we're watching these television programs. I wonder if our friends at Surfshark can do that. They can give the Canadian fans the commercial free WWE experience on Canadian Netflix. They can give all the fans the commercial free experience on the Canadian Netflix. If you do it right, can they give us a McAfee free experience on the on the Surfshark service? I don't know if that's exactly how it works, but this is a good time of year to remind people about Surfshark and their service because WrestleMania is coming up. And of course, it's a pain in the neck in the States to go to the ESPN. Go to ESPN on the Disney app and pay third. I thought it was the Disney on the ESPN. It's ESPN on the. Now that's why they've got our truth in the little Lucy psychiatrist box from from peanuts. Tell them people how to sign up for this thing that we don't even remember what the name of it is. That's another. You don't need to worry about that. Now let's take our craziest character and have him explain to people how to order the pay-per-view. Great idea. But like you said, you don't need to worry about it for once. You can have all the benefits of a WWE fan in Canada. Put without being in Canada because you got to go to surfshark.com and then they'll put you anywhere your little heart desires. You want to live on a South Seas Island with a tropical breeze blowing in your face and the sand done between your toes and the topless lady giving you the Mai Tai. Well, and all you got to do is go to surfshark.com slash JCE and you're going to sign up and they're going to send you to the South Seas metaphorically speaking. And you're going to get four extra months of Surfshark VPN for doing that because not only are you going to be able to get access to all these various streaming services that for some reason or another block you out. You know what I'm talking about, Brian, you know, you know what I'm talking about. Just because of your geographical location, sometimes you get screwed, screwed, glued, and tattooed, dicked by the dangledong of destiny. Just because of where you live. I say no. I say firepon you, sir. Surfshark will fix you up with a brand new abode somewhere that's not discriminated against like Cambodia or British Columbia. So go to Surfshark. Yes, various places. That's where British Columbia is. You didn't know that? Well, you started with Cambodia. I that's what made me want to stress that we're talking about Cambodia. They don't discriminate against anybody over there. Freedle living society. I don't know how they do streaming over there, but let's get back to the point here. It's called Cambodian streaming service. Once again, Netflix and Canada. And Netflix and Canada, we know for sure. Yes, well, we know for sure. But let's see what the thing is for people all over the world. You can figure this shit out as you go. Secure your privacy, too. They're not going to let the people in your walls through those cables to harm you or your family while you're asleep or get inside your computer and look at all your naughty pictures. So surfshark.com slash jce where if you go and sign up with the code JCE, you will get four extra months over and above what you're signing up for just for using that code. They'll not only keep you personal and private, but they will allow you to basically bypass the WWE and the streaming services. Draconian laws concerning where you live. And of course, then you can access things in a much easier fashion. And draconian pricing. Don't forget about that. Get around that. Well, it goes completely without saying that it will be gratis, which means you pay nothing for these fine services that other people are suckered into paying for. Well, once again, surfshark. It's WrestleMania season. You need a good option to see WrestleMania from the convenience of your home with a convenient price on a convenient service that you pick like Netflix in Canada, Jim. Let's let the listeners know this great deal from surfshark. Surfshark.com slash JCE and use that code JCE at checkout. You're going to get four extra months on top of what you sign up for just because we love you. Surfshark. Well, you know who I wish they could put in a different place, a different location, at a different time and start over again is Jacob Fatou. Are you kind of heartbroken over what has happened here with Jacob Fatou and the overall presentation? They found a way to make him not interesting. Not scary. Not anything. He's just he's another guy on the car and that wasn't how he debuted and that's certainly not how he should have been presented. And you know, there's still time, I guess, but they've they've shown them the cleaned up version. Here's the thing. I know he was out with the dental whatever, but they could have covered. Here's what let's here's what they did. And then let's talk about what they could have been doing. Again, he's got a match with another one of the fucking Tongans. That I think is what doomed him was being stuck in neutral with solo in that group for so long, so low, so long. But he beats the whatever the Tongan was. But obviously the match coming up is him and drew unsanctioned. They're mad. They're dangerous. They're, you know, they're at each other's throats and they've they had a video with Drew in jail and not like he was he was in jail mocking Jacob and talking about blah, blah, blah. They've talked about Jacob's prison background. He's the nicest, cleanest, most ineffectual ex con now I've ever seen. They did everything. Again, they did everything, but they did it in the wrong way and or with the wrong people. So. After Jacob wins this match, McIntyre comes out and jumps him and just beats a piss out of Jacob Fattu and he's supposed to handcuff him. Brian, what have you ever seen a cop with the handcuffs with a chain six feet long in the middle? I have no idea where you get handcuffs like that. No, you don't get them like that because there ain't none. You don't you have to. They made phony fucking handcuffs for this spot. They were apparently trying to do that didn't work anyway. But I've said before, there are handcuffs with you get three links, a chain in the middle, and those are usually the working ones. You can get handcuffs that don't have any chain of the square connection and those are goddamn almost impossible to use in a working situation. And when they have a chain like. It was say two or three feet long in the middle of them. They're usually leg shackles where people can walk in them. They go around your ankles, but that's why that chain is that long, right? But with these. They were regular sized handcuffs, but with a chain six feet long in the middle. So. To mock him, obviously for being an ex-con or prisoner or whatever, but. He puts the goddamn handcuffs on both of Fatou's arms. And tries to hang that long chain over the top of the ring post while Fatou's on the floor. So he can hang him there and have his way. And as soon as he puts any weight on it, one of the fucking handcuffs comes off one wrist. So then he gives on him and he beats him up some more. He puts the handcuff on again. And. He's trying to do the same goddamn deal and it came off again. And then he's still supposed to apparently get more heater do something because he tries to get him down on the floor and now. He's trying to lay his handcuff on his fucking hands. Behind him. Well, there's a six foot chain, but Fatou's trying to act like that his hands are handcuffed behind him. Anybody don't. He's not fully committing to acting like that because he kind of knows, but he's still trying to keep his arms behind him while he's not fucking. And then Drew whips him with a belt and all of the agents are trying to stop it. It was long and it was horrible. And Fatou, whether he was, he might have just got dinged. He was bleeding a touch from the head, not like bleeding bad or anything, but he just immobilized and beaten up and other people having to come and help him. I think it, it probably should have been. And again, this is something I could do. It probably should have been. And again, this is something I go back to with Vince in the old days before he lost his mind. And before that, you know, everything just fell apart. A guy like that, he wouldn't have needed anybody to come help him. For a long time after you saw his debut. Hey, tell me what you thought of this and then let me tell you what I thought maybe they should have not done or done or whatever. I mean, you described it pretty well. It was a train wreck of a segment. The agents can never stop or do anything. But they're all out there. The handcuffs. Who was the left? Was it handcuffs and Becky and Lyra Lyra, whatever name is Lyra? Yes. That was the last time the handcuff thing didn't work. This one was such a bad idea to begin with because even if it worked, you're hanging him over the thing with the handcuffs. It was poorly thought out. It broke down. They kept going back to it. I don't think any of the fans cared about this a few weeks ago. I think it's gotten worse. This is again, like Hobbes close to Fatou's hometown. And I don't think the build to this match has done anything for either one of these guys, actually. Once that Drew's a non-entity right now. It doesn't feel like this feud matters. And that's it. It was guys that two of the guys that we were most interested in just this time last year or, you know, up until several months ago. And then suddenly, poor Drew got eggyed out back in January or whatever it was. And Jacob is, he's the cleanest, nicest werewolf you'll ever see. It reminds me of when they tried to get, I swear to God, Rikishi, when he was Fatou in 1995 or whatever, when they cleaned him up and remember the gimmick he's going to make a difference. Oh yeah, I could never forget that. The appeal to the hip young urban kids and tell them to stay off drugs and, oh Christ. But the point is when they realized what they had with Jacob Fatou, he was the werewolf he came in, he was running crazy. I love you, Solo. When they broke him up with Solo, he should have beat the fuck out of Solo. Boom, one, two, three, and got him away from it. And he was starting to get, obviously, the babyface momentum, but work with that, but don't turn him babyface because the reason he was becoming popular, getting over is because he was this wild fucking dangerous motherfucker that could do all this shit. So instead of then trying to normalize him, instead of my God, he broke up with Solo because the bad blood in the bloodline, but now he's on the loose and you could have him work with anybody. Let him be a kind of a stone cold type of guy where he was turned by the people before they turned him in the ring. But at the same time, he could work with another heel because he's just nuts and that's where they could have explored the prison background when they said, well, the bloodline's pull is how that he was able to get signed to a WWE contract because of his record. And now that we got him, what do we do with him? We can't get rid of him. And if the general manager's going, my God, this guy's of insurance liability, whether he's going to hurt one of the fans or somebody in the, but we don't know. And he wouldn't have needed to wrestle every goddamn week. Sometimes just have him do insurance liability things where he's mad at somebody, he's trying to get them and fucking, there's an incident in the parking lot. And just keep him an island unto himself at some level until and then with the dental problem he had and had to take several months off, violate his probation. Because you should have already been telling the story of he was in prison to begin with. That's why that they didn't have him before. That's why the family didn't even want to bring him in because he's dangerous. And he certainly got a mug shot somewhere. Show the fucking thing. Do a package. Even if he never made the news, have some newscaster. Oh, California man was arrested today in conjunction with while he's over the mug shot and if you need to make the newspaper, tell the story. But that's when he was young. And then you could start telling the story from people in the family. He was around the wrong people, whatever it was to make him a sympathetic ex con who fell in at a young age with the wrong crowd and his poor neighbor, whatever the fuck. But that's why he's fucking crazy. And and then one of the family members, not a wrestler, just a young teenage boy that's his cousin or his nephew or whatever the fuck. Maybe one of them that helps tell the story of how Jacob Fattu wound up on the wrong side of the law is sitting front row some night. When the goddamn he'll fucking said fuck you. And that's how you get Jacob Fattu to turn baby face. The he'll grabs the kid over the fucking rail is gonna kill him. And here comes Jacob and blah, blah, blah. I sound like Pat Patterson now given the but it's just the highlights. But that's the story. And then you go and you fill it in. And at that point, then you've got all the people on his side because he was a young man that made mistakes. And then you like I said, you can do a parole violation for shit paperwork error and get sympathy on him. And you can give weekly reports. He's still fucking locked up, but he's he wants to get out bad. Maybe the goddamn he'll is the one that turned him in. Instead, they've washed him and cleaned him up and give him spotless tights. And he's not a werewolf. He's goddamn Newfoundland. I've never heard that comparison before. Well, see, just what I'm saying make any sense to you. What you're saying is world's better than what they've done, although I would replace the teenage kid with either an old lady or the Tonga kid. Get him a. Well, I didn't want to beat up an old lady. No, you get like some old worker who could just take a bump over the rail. One last payday. That's to be another me young somewhere. A Samoan may young. Hey, they did that with goddamn. Who was it was? It was Eric Wanger off George White in I CW in Lexington at the high school gym they used to run. They did a deal where the heels were wrestling George Wanger off and Eric is George's little brother at a time he's only like 14 or 15. And as they're beating up the baby faces, I can't remember who the heels were. Savage may have been involved rolls out and grabs Eric Wanger off and rolls him in and starts kicking his shit out of him because Eric was just walking by the ring, right? And they're shooting this for television and they're going to explain what happened, you know, when they voice it over later. But what the people saw was his fucking heel just rolled out and grabbed this kid from walking down the hallway and threw him in the ring and start kicking his shit out of him. And it started a riot. He's grabbed one of us and they fucking hit the ring and blah, blah, blah. So but you know, now that's been overdone too, but you can always tell when it's set up now. Nevertheless, poor Jacob, we knew him well. But now he's he's just back. And that had to be gimmick handcuffs too, because if you close legitimate handcuffs, one click they ain't coming open. So I don't know where they got this fucking bad special effects. You know, that's what I didn't think about. Brian, when I did my ring worn and ring use sale, I still have like two or three pair of handcuffs from Smoky Mountain Wrestling's rage and a cage fucking match. I should put those up for bid somewhere. Yeah, that's pretty cool. And and handcuff keys are standard, as we've said many times. So folks always remember, carry your handcuff keys. That's a public service announcement. There's some advice for you criminals out there from Jim Cornette. Hey, I still I for the past 30 something years, I've carried a handcuff key on my key ring. But if they arrest you, they're going to take away your keys. Well, I might have to get somebody else out of something. Oh, now that's just being a good friend, actually. See, there you see. All right, he's speaking to good friends and better enemies. Sammy Zane, then at 10 o'clock on this eastern on this episode of Smackdown, came out to the ring and started cutting the promo and I was about to talk down. And I got to be honest with you, I was going to zip through the whole thing. But trick came out with Lil Yachty. And I just love them now. They are a they're a pair to be reckoned with. And it's the way they're they know what they're doing here. And they're doing a very good job of this because trick was a heel, but people are starting to like him. And Sammy's a baby face, but they have been slowly telling the story of how Sammy's just kind of an insufferable little thing. And people are getting tired of him. They were booing him as soon as he started talking. Exactly. Because now it's it's it's registering. And I think after last week, they've got the idea. Yeah, Sammy. So trick and Yachty come out and said, people are tired of hearing you talk, Sammy. And they're like, yes, yeah. And trick cut a great promo on Sammy and ended up getting cheered for said, I'm going to beat you. And Sammy responded, he's not cutting a heel promo, but he's cutting just a he's just an annoying little little fucking asshole that the fans are not going to like. He's not trying to be a heel with it, but he's is being one, if that makes sense. And then Yachty cut a promo on Sammy, it was pretty good. And I like little Yachty. They're great together. I think again, I believe that they ought to fucking sign Yachty to be old tricks, you know, fucking whatever he is. A hype man or spokesman or rap man or whatever. And then they just played Matt Cardona's music and okay, they went to break and I don't care. And they had a match. But that was that was the promo segment. The fans didn't care too much about that match either. But I understand there was a sighting of a human piece of broccoli in the second row chewing its cud while this match was going on. I understand that too. I saw you retweeted. So I understand that's indeed the case. I have to say they're booing Sammy. They're right to. It's the way it's been portrayed. Other fans, independent of that are kind of sick of them. But he did a great job here. Like this whole thing up until the Matt Cardona part where his music plays and you know, again, it doesn't really motivate the fans. But it's like always ready. Okay, that's just great. As opposed to everyone else is just sitting around, I guess. But the fans didn't give a shit. And that's kind of where I think everyone just stopped caring about the segment. But the next segment was a another one of these. Wow. You just you can't believe your eyes segments. Dan Halzen made his wrestling debut, Brian on on Smackdown on the in the WWE. And he wrestled Kit Wilson. I I got to say for once, Kit Wilson looked like a large giant athlete of a man. I'm watching this and I'm thinking of all the feedback we've received the last couple of weeks. And I'm like, you know, maybe we are too hard on it. Maybe we are too hard on this idea that there's magic and it's just all coincidences. And then the fucking pyro went up the guy's ass. I tell you what, I don't want to hear anybody make fun of me anymore for 30 years ago wrestling Brian Hildebrand in a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle costume at the Tally Ward rec center in Morristown on kids night. That this was this was literally a county fair spot show match from the old days on national television. And Dan housing, of course, from build is from 1311 mockingbird Lane. He just he's next door to the Munsters. Nice touch. It was a good touch. But they did a couple of old fashioned spot show spots that at one point Dan housing slid out of the ring and put his arm around Miz who was looking at the people and Miz thought that it was Kit and so he's smiling and I mean, just a spot show. And then a little heat kit took over, got some heat on him. And then finally kit is going to finish him off. And he he's got Dan housing laid out in the middle of ring. And he climbs to the top rope. But as he stands up on the top rope, Dan housing sits up and looks at him. And he goes to the left you and he goes to the right or any points that Kit cursed. And pyro comes out of the top of the ring post up kit Wilson's ass. And Kit Wilson, of course, reacts as anyone does when pyro is blown up your anal orifice. And he fucking goes, and he jumps up and he crotches himself on the top turnbuckle. Jumps up and he falls down to crotch first and then he falls in the ring and then Miz pops up and Dan housing spins around and gives Miz an eye poke blink and down goes Miz. And then he kicked Kit Wilson in the head, which apparently is his finish. 123. Jesus Christ needs a better finish. That was my big there. There could be well, I don't know that he need we should say he needs a finish. I'm hoping he's not going to be winning that many wrestling matches. But but yes, the magical pyro up the poop shoot spelled the end for young Kit Wilson against mockingbird Lane's contribution to the wrestling industry. And as you are kidding, you guys are too hard on the referee just happened to have a hand that couldn't count anymore. And then this and then the fireworks up the ass. At least they didn't come out of his ass. But you know what that might have been better. You know what if he could have pointed at Kit Wilson and fireworks would have come out of his ass and boosted him up an ear like a rocket. I would have gone for that. There goes Kit Wilson. He's chasing the Artemis to as he goes out of the arena. Give me a ass rocket. Where will he land? His finish can be the ass blaster. Well, now I mean, the sad part is, in terms of what it means for professional wrestling, I think it's such a giant step back. But in terms of comedy, I can't wait to see what curse happens next week. What calamity can happen next after you do the fireworks up the ass? What could follow that? I actually want to know. So they got me. You know, I think we said something that's apropos with a couple of years ago when this whole thing started with TKO going to buy that Vince was going to sell and that the business was the main major promotion in the world was going to be out of wrestling people hands for the first time ever. And what might happen? And could it get it? If Vince was, Vince was over the top with the entertainment, could it get worse with somebody who hadn't at least had some level of knowledge of and respect for any kind of wrestling tradition or for the business in general, or at least the the effort it takes to be one of the top guys, because Vince always recognized the effort and the physical effort and the mental effort, the determination it took to be a top guy in wrestling. That's why he rewarded some some people sometimes in commensurate with their ability, whatever the case. But now we've got, you know, magic tricks and leprechauns and lollipops and fucking pyro from the ass and jelly rolls. Hey listen, if Orange Cassidy was a free agent, they would try to sign him. And if they signed him, we would get like, I don't know if you've seen this guy yet. He's really amazing. He sticks his hands in his pockets. They would make it the big thing there. And they would sell a bunch of merch off that. It's the state of the wrestling industry. There are no more barriers between goofy indie stuff and what gets on TV. Because there's no more barriers between goofy indie people and access. It's just that now we're finding out some of the goofy indie people also have billions of dollars at their disposal, whether it be goofy indie wrestlers or goofy indie fans. This is now what the business is in the hands of is goofy indiness. So maybe they should, who's the, where, what happened to, I thought I could vamp long enough that I'd remember his name, the goddamn magician that was all the Chris Angel was all the rage on television. Mind freak. Like what 15 years ago, did a hell of a television show, had some arms on him, looked like he worked out. You could see him doing a fucking wrestling angle. Where's he now? They could get him. He could make some of these sunbitches disappear. All right, weird plug for Chris Angel. Well, I'm just thinking to, you know, why don't they just open the floodgate there in Vegas? That was his thing. He was in Vegas. He did magic on in the various venues in Vegas. Why don't we do something to tag team? Why don't we get Penn and Teller? Maybe they can come out there and do something. Actually, I think Chris Angel is more hip and young than Penn and Teller for this, you know, modern hipster crowd we got going on here. I don't know how hip and young Chris Angel is in 2026. Penn and Teller are timeless. Well, who's the big magician now then? The big ones, Ken and the tiny mute is no, I don't mean the big lot. I mean, who is the top mute, top musician, musician is, I don't know. I don't know. Who's the top magician in the world today? It used to be like, well, we know it's David Copperfield. He's fucking David Blaine or it's this guy or that guy. Who's the big head on show today? Copperfield was in trouble already. And then they found that he was in the Epstein file. So he's completely done. No. Oh, yeah, he was. David Copperfield. I saw him. That's right. That's right. I saw him one time live like 30 years ago. It was amazing. What do you do? I'm sure he did all sorts of naughty stuff. And then he also beyond any sexual shenanigans, which you can Google. He also had an apartment in New York that he trashed. He flooded some house apartment, some apartment, some penthouse at the top of a building. He destroyed it, but uh, well, maybe he was doing a thing where he escapes out of the fucking box underwater and just it overflowed. Well, either way, I would go with Penn and Teller over Chris Angel. Well, you know what I'd go with? Bringing this show to an end, ladies and gentlemen. But there was a main event. Whoa. What a main event. E.O. Sky and Jade Cargill. Yeah, I was talked out, celebrated out and fucking cursed out at that point. So what happened? Jade eventually beat E.O. The crowd didn't seem to give a shit about any of this. Rhea beat up Mia Yim or Meachan and BFab throughout the night in the back. She would find them and attack them off camera. And then you would see them all beat up and Jade knew. And then apparently it was a pretty good ass kicking because they couldn't come out and help their friend an hour later. Yeah. I mean, Rhea, Rhea is tough. Well, there you go. And that was Smackdown. Certainly was. Any closing thoughts? Any closing thoughts? Yes, I had a closing thought a minute ago and you stopped me from closing. My closing thought is WrestleMania is coming up in just a week. Not even now is by the time the people hear this. And thank goodness for Brock and Oba and Punk and Roman because I think they have successfully neutered my interest in anything else on the show. Which night gets the rock? He ain't going to show up as a surprise because then he gets none of the credit for drawing the thing. But if he also gets none of the blame for if they don't like what it draws and and he can claim scheduling difficulties. I don't think he wants any on him at this point. We'll see what happens. WWE in an interesting state of creative destruction, self-induced destruction, it seems like they got rid of they didn't get rid of Brian Armstrong left. All of a sudden there's a female head writer of Raw who has no experience with professional wrestling in any way. Can't even speak about the state of Smackdown. The show has fallen off a cliff. But then again, it also seems like the creative team is not fully running that show. There are literally voices from above. Telling people just show up at Smackdown and do whatever the fuck you want. I hear voices from above. They're telling me to give McAfee a shove. They're Ari's voice. I'll give them credit though. I can't wait to talk to you about Raw on the drive-thru and Smackdown next week in Mania, but not for the right reasons. Just because it seems like each show is like another rung of the train wreck at this point. Well, and if we're getting a tag match in May, unless they rethink that with Jelly and Pat and Bob and Carol and Ted and Alice, that whole and then we're going to have to see this weekly for some time to come. The fans do not like this much celebrity nonsense. It's going to be nonstop because it's going to be every day on the Pat McAfee show on ESPN. Well, we don't have to listen to that though. I'm saying those fans are going to get sick of it too, because it's going to be. No, I'm saying I don't care about those fans. I'm saying, well, I don't care about anything. They can all drive all their fans off they want for all I care. But the fans for all I care. But the fans of Smackdown are not going to stick through six more weeks of jelly rolls saving the day on a consistent basis. I don't think. Hey, well, we will see what happens. That was Smackdown and this is your show. I was about to say now I have a final thought since we've got to get plenty of rest before WrestleMania week down week down before WrestleMania week down, we're going to lay down and get a good night's sleep. That's what we're going to do. We have the AWP review coming up. Oh, Christ, I forgot about that. But I'm only going to watch like half of that. If that no, come on, you have to go over over the top and catch up on a fucking match. Oh, you have to turn into the drive through in a few days and see what I do. And that's the only thing I can tell you. And then we'll see what they do. Good Lord. Are they just trying to get in the week before and just make people not want to see any more wrestling to sabotage WrestleMania? Is that their their emo this year? We'll fix it. And they'll go seven hours. They'll be like Vince used to in the building the night before an NWA show. They'll go till one in the morning and tire everybody out. WWE does not need anyone's help in sabotaging WrestleMania this year. All right. Well, anyway, tune in next week for more sabotage and next week also on the drive through for more of a W's various indiscretions. And until then, thank you. Fuck you. Bye bye, everybody. Getting bored of companies who spend 30 seconds listening to their awards. So are we. Here's what you actually need to know. Capital.com is rated 4.6 on Trust Pilots and 4.8 on TradingView. That's based on real reviews by people just like you. Join over 750,000 plus traders who use capital.com. Capital.com. Trade with clarity. 62% of retail investor accounts lose money when trading spread bets and CFDs with this provider.