The Bald and the Beautiful with Trixie and Katya

250 Episodes of Dolls Being Dolls with Trixie and Katya

50 min
Jan 20, 20264 months ago
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Summary

Trixie and Katya celebrate 250 episodes of their podcast by reflecting on personal stories, including home disasters (mold damage, water leaks), recent TV opportunities, and candid discussions about aging, personal style, drag performance challenges, and evolving attitudes toward sexuality and relationships.

Insights
  • Long-form podcast success relies on authentic, unscripted conversation and humility rather than celebrity status alone—audiences invest in genuine connection over production value
  • Drag performance involves significant physical and mental trade-offs; the more elaborate the costume, the greater the discomfort and performance limitations
  • Home ownership and property management in Los Angeles presents systemic infrastructure challenges that disproportionately affect residents through water damage and mold remediation costs
  • Personal brand building through consistent public advocacy (e.g., repeatedly praising a show) can lead to professional opportunities without formal auditions
  • Medication off-label use (glycopyrrolate for hyperhidrosis) offers practical solutions for performance-specific challenges but requires careful risk assessment in high-exertion contexts
Trends
Podcast longevity driven by host chemistry and audience loyalty rather than production sophistication or guest rotationDrag performance optimization focusing on comfort and health trade-offs as performers ageLos Angeles real estate and infrastructure vulnerabilities creating widespread property damage and remediation demandOff-label pharmaceutical use for performance anxiety and hyperhidrosis in entertainment and professional contextsVintage collectibles (dolls, memorabilia) as alternative investment assets with storage and preservation challengesShift in sexual interest and libido patterns among aging performers; normalization of fluctuating desireCelebrity podcast saturation and democratization of audio content creation across all demographicsNostalgia-driven content and retrospective storytelling as engagement drivers in long-form audio
Topics
Podcast production and longevity strategiesDrag performance physiology and costume engineeringHome water damage and mold remediation in Los AngelesOff-label medication use for hyperhidrosis and performance anxietyVintage toy and collectible preservation and insurancePersonal style and aging in entertainmentTelevision casting and talent acquisitionNostalgia and retrospective storytellingReal estate and property management challengesChanging attitudes toward sexuality and relationshipsMusic festival touring logisticsNeighbor relations and urban livingVintage Barbie and doll collectingDrag makeup techniques and time managementAward show nominations and competition
Companies
Airbnb
Sponsor ad read discussing travel planning and vacation rental booking for spring trips.
TikTok Shop
Mentioned as source for purchasing sunglasses; platform for personal shopping and discovery.
Netflix
Referenced for TV opportunities and filming locations; mentioned in context of recent professional work.
Maybelline
Makeup brand used by hosts; Maybelline Fit Me foundation and Dream Matte Mousse products discussed.
Marvel Studios
Mentioned in context of upcoming Avengers: Doomsday film and MCU content discussion.
One Taste
Sex-positive wellness company featured in 'Orgasm Inc.' documentary; discussed for controversial practices.
People
Trixie Mattel
Co-host discussing personal experiences, TV opportunities, home damage, and reflections on 250 episodes.
Katya Zamolodchikova
Co-host engaging in conversation about podcast milestones, personal challenges, and entertainment industry insights.
Henry Cavill
Discussed for Superman role and mustache appearance; referenced as example of attractiveness enhancement.
Nicholas Holt
Mentioned as celebrity crush; praised for performances in Warm Bodies, X-Men, Superman, and Nosferatu.
Mia Goth
Discussed for costume design and performances in Frankenstein film; praised for visual presentation.
Jamie Lee Curtis
Producer of Susan Powder documentary; discussed as potential actress to portray Powder in feature film.
Michelle Visage
Referenced for memoir discussing financial exploitation during Seduction touring; example of industry injustice.
Amy Poehler
Won Golden Globe for Best Podcast; mentioned as competitor for GLAAD Award nomination.
Bob the Drag Queen
Mentioned as GLAAD Award competitor; noted for multiple GLAAD Award wins.
Caleb Hearon
Mentioned as GLAAD Award competitor; described as funny and nice.
Bowen Yang
Recently quit SNL; mentioned as GLAAD Award competitor who may need work.
Gwyneth Paltrow
Discussed for podcast presence and recent documentary appearance; example of celebrity podcast saturation.
Susan Powder
Subject of documentary 'Stop the Insanity'; discussed for career trajectory and current Uber driving work.
Christopher Reeve
Referenced as Superman example in discussion of mustache attractiveness enhancement.
Annie Sprinkle
Referenced as legitimate sex educator; mentioned as preferred source for sex workshops.
Quotes
"I take that as a compliment because they don't understand. I think it's a read. I think it's insulting to these people listening to."
Trixie Mattel~2:45:00
"The paradox of drag is that the more, you know, as the steps progress and you become this contified version of yourself, the comfort level degrades so drastically that it's at odds with that feeling."
Katya Zamolodchikova~1:15:00
"I only got the jobs from years of saying how much I like it, which is so much better than auditioning."
Trixie Mattel~1:30:00
"When you're bald, you got to stay in your lane. You got to know that everything with a bald haircut changes."
Katya Zamolodchikova~45:00
"My entire doll collection, dolls from 59 through 80. Basically are the boxes are all molded. All the boxes have mold on them."
Trixie Mattel~2:15:00
Full Transcript
Hi Divas, Katya here. While Miss Pink is out getting hair plugs, I want to kindly remind you that we are going on tour. I go through hell doing ads about going on tour. The very bald and very beautiful tour will be heading to such lovely places like Chicago, Toronto, and Boston maybe. For tickets and more, head over to TrixieandKatya.com. Thank you fat- oh queen! Hi everybody, we need to address the antelope in the room. Yeah, what is that? It's my primary abuser. Oh is this the incident? You should have had your wig on. I may have. Protected by a wig. What was at home? Usually don't do wigs at home. Um, do you see that? Yeah. Oh shit, ripped off. Wait a minute, did that break off when it hit you? It sure the fuck did. Can I tell how heavy it is? Oh my god. This is like 20 pounds. 15? Maybe 12. I don't know. It was heavy. But it was like, imagine... It kinda creeps me out. Oh yeah, it's really creepy. Also... Oh no, oh wait, oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! And that thing is dead and it didn't... that thing doesn't even know that it's a star now. A star is born. So gross. I had to get a tennis shot. I had to get stitches. I have a lovely scar. You know I'm gay. Why do you think I give a shit about you and your taxidermy when you have these shoes on? Let's see the shoes. Holy shit, I love these. Maybe get the shoes. Get the shoes. Rochester, New York. Really cute. Are they fun? I'm getting some taps on them. Baby. Every cell in my body was incorporated not to rhinestone them. Why would you do that? They look great on their own. I guess, but you wouldn't have worn them. You wouldn't have worn rhinestone shoes. I'm not that gay. Baby, I'm not that gay. Because I am older. Getting older. And I'm just sort of like, I'm at a crossroads. Where I'm actually overdue to be at this crossroads. Are we going to talk about your personal style? No. We're just talking about... I wasn't going to talk about it. I had nothing to say on the subject. Go on. I need to be... After 40, you should... Or one often... Thinks about slacks rather than jeans. Butchers and downs. You know what I mean? So this is about personal style? Yeah, theoretically. I agree because at a certain point... I like... I don't know. I'm at a point where I'm like, when you're my age and you're bald, a t-shirt doesn't hit the way you think it does. Well, at the gym it does. At the gym it does. At home it does. But in general... I don't know. What do you feel about a super oversized t-shirt with the shoulder off and no panties on? At home? Yeah! It reminds me of the mom in poltergeist. Yes! Love poltergeist. What's her name? I'm Joan... The mom. Oh, Angelina Jolie. Joe Beth Williams. And Craig T. Nelson. Craig T. Nelson. What is that? What is that? What is that? What is that? What is that? What is that? Oh, no. People who know where I am right now text to me, can you talk? Well, you can to me. I'm about to be keeping these lights on. Speaking of lights, I have sunglasses on because I have two black eyes. Oh, that's tough. What happened? I don't want to talk about it. Right. I'm just kidding. I don't want to do it. Like guys, the reveal. Yeah. Imagine if there were no eyes underneath it. What's going on, Mary? I love those glasses, by the way. Oh, thank you. I got them in the TikTok shop. What is this tick? I don't want to know about it. It's this beautiful union of me, me on a gummy. Is it T-MU? Me on a gummy and me seeing something and saying, hey, and you know what the real, for people like me, who have no personal style, it's, it's my cat, my catalyst is if I see a bald person in an outfit and they don't look half, they only look half stupid. I'm like, maybe that could happen for me. Yeah. Cause the thing about being bald is you got to stay in your lane. You got to know that everything with a bald haircut changes. I know. I can't really. There's no boy next door. That's bald. That boy is sick. That's, I was going to say a Jimmy fund. Right. In a movie, like the boy next door who's bald is powder or has cancer. Yes. So, or a lovely monk, the golden child. I think what you do, the kind of gothy thing, I think bald or not bald is great. Yeah. When you're alternative, you can get a lot, you can get away with a lot. Oh my God. Because you don't want to be Jeff Bezos. You don't want to be Jeff Bezos. No. Did you say mustache? I would sooner and alive. I love mustaches. Love it. It's an immediate launch. It's immediate. Yes. For me. So do you think the, how many, how many notches up the hot skill does a man go when he rocks the mustache? Does it depend? A full click. Really? A full notch. Absolutely. Can you give an example? Superman. Which one? Christopher Reeve. No, the little Superman. Henry Cavill. Yes. When he had a mustache, I was like, well, now we're, now we took, we took, we took chocolate cake, rich Bruce bogtrod chocolate cake and we dumped cocaine on it. And so we're sniffing and eating. We're boofin. We're boofin. We're completely boofin. Speaking of Superman. Did you see the woke Superman? The David Corn Sweat one. Corn Sweat? Corn Sweat. His last name is Corn Sweat. Corn Sweat. Corn Sweat. C-O-R-E-N-S-W-E-T. I loved it. Mary, that man is talk about, I mean, I don't know about the movie. I love him. I love Nicholas Holt. Love him. Oh my God. Nicholas Holt. Can I say, I know we don't have guests anymore. Nicholas, you better come on the YouTube channel. Yeah. I love him. I love him in everything. Me too. He's one of my celebrity crushes. Warm bodies, eight. X-Men, eight. Superman, eight. Nosferatu, eight. Chomped. Yeah. The world doesn't seem to be receiving Frankenstein. Frankenstein? I don't, when we saw it early, Katya and I saw it super early. I thought we would, I thought it would be like what he did Ravelry is. Well. No one's like changing their Twitter bio to Frankenstein movie. You know, I think because we enjoyed it in that, you know, we get the movies like that. Like, you know, I care a lot. That chopped up was so cunt. I watched the whole thing. Not as quick. Frankenstein? No. I'm saying like when we watch a movie on Netflix, we get the clip show. I love it. So all we got was cunty Mia goth outfit after cunty Mia goth outfit after beautiful set piece after beautiful set piece. Right. But like just in terms of the story, I don't know. Yeah. But I mean those outfits, every time she was on screen, you're like, can I just say can I jump into the future a little bit? We have, we just filmed this video yesterday that, okay, remember we had Lush's on this pod? Yeah. Lush's massacre. You guys remember icon Ludge and the best. Don't do her. Remember how she said, she would, you said, well, you do my makeup and she said, I'll do you, but it's like a little one too. Remember she said, I'm going to get you in and out of this makeup station in 30 minutes. Yeah. Remember she said like the girls are spending too much time doing makeup. Yeah. I did a video yesterday where I said, I'm going to take 30 minutes. I put a timer on my iPhone and I said, I'm not just going to like stop at 30. I'm going to make sure every step is done in 30 minutes. Conti. Not Conti. Beautiful. Fine. Good. Good even. Check it on YouTube. You guys, I couldn't believe it. And now I'm like, remember how we've talked about when you rush at our face 45 minutes, you're like, damn, what have I been doing? Now that I've touched 30 and been like, I mean, I finished in 25 and had five minutes to go blend and like touch things up. Yeah. Well, here, we do like ball in the beautiful, those big stages and no meat and great. I'm kind of like, well, here's the thing though. I, I, I like to, I liked, I like to, I like to relax, have a little cocktail. Take my time. Come on. Hall eight hours. Mary. It's actually six months soon. She does the first, she does the, the, the, the, the paint. She does like a, she does like a marine layer. She does like the earth's mantle, the crust. You don't know me. She's doing like, she says, she's a color blocking point foundation blends it all out and then starts. She takes like Mabel. I think Jynx, you can, you know, you can correct me if you remember how to use your phone. I think she, when she came over to my house, I think she used Maybelline dream matte mousse. Do you know about this product? I sure do. That hockey puck of black. I sure do. And I love Maybelline. We both have Maybelline fit me foundation on today. Yeah. And I have it. Well, you can't see mine. Right. Underneath. Did that bump ever go away? It did. Right. Excuse me. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Huge. Was it herpes? Was it ingrown hair? No, that was, that was a, that was a fucking devastating ingrown hair. Devastating. Remember how it was? It was purple. Fucking disgust. Mary, it was, because underneath the surface, you know, the evil lies underneath. It's, it's a twisted root of a tangled hair. Right. Disgusting. The fruits of the devil. There is a eye of chronic pain. There is a release. There's something diabolical about being in drag and your base level is not 100% healthy. Because mama, if you're sick, if you're in pain, everything else. If you're at 100% you get into drag, you're down to 30%. Down to 30%. You are in pain. Yeah. That's the, I was just talking about this with somebody is like, with Fina, it was like, you, the paradox of drag is that the more, you know, as the steps progress and you become this contified version of yourself, the, the, the comfort level degrades so drastically that it's at odds with that feeling for sure. You know what I mean? And you start to lose the battle. Yes. The pain starts to overtake the awareness that you're this hot bitch. Yeah. Especially with movement too. Like if you are corseted and padded and then wigged, like you're not like twilight tharp. You can't do, you can't do Lucinda child. No, you can't. You haven't held an ailey. You're like, I, you know, I'm doing all the music festivals this year. Some of them have been announced, but I'm doing a bunch of them. Some of them are in the summer, like in the South. I don't know why you do this. But I called Amy by customer and I said, listen, cause originally we were going to do for the show a boostie with a sculpted cups and stuff that we would like pin things on for quick changes. And I called her and said, I just don't think so. Bonnaroo Bonnaroo is in Tennessee in the middle of summer. Why the fuck would anybody do that? Why? So I called her and said, I just don't think we can put me in a corset in like a hundred degrees outside. But you can do get one of those Japanese cooling suits. They exist. They exist for workers are wearing these Japanese cooling suits in Japan. Oh yeah, baby. Look it up. Google it. It's a thing also to the point of sweating. I have a revelation that I would love to share with you. What is it? So I had a gig. I guess I can't talk about it right now, but it was a wonderful like a dream gig. TV TV TV gig. I don't want to say anything, but we both got the TV gigs of our lives. Yeah, we both booked TV gigs on shows that we not only love, but that are objectively incredible. We only got the jobs from years of saying how much we like it, which is so much better than auditioning. I have to say just beg to be on things. Don't audition. No, just at every turn, cheat out to the camera and say how much you love the show. That was the move. I was invited to be on the show because I said no. They wrote apart for me, Mary, and I memorized the lines. I did. Anyways, so, but I went to a costume fitting and then I was like spiraling because the outfit was so incredibly hot. So it's like, it's over. It's absolutely. So I went to go get out my stitches. I almost did. I went to go get my stitches out at that fucking crazy concierge place and I said, Hey baby, hello, Ms. NP nurse practitioner. I did a little Googling this morning. What do you think about glycopyrilate? She's like, what? She went and did a little Googling. It is a medication that anesthesiologists use during surgery to help stop secretions in the body. So in the off label used for this is it stops sweating. You stop sweating. I was like, this sounds too good to be true. She sure did write me a script for that and I went and picked it up two hours later. Baby, were you hot still? I was hot. So yeah, here's the thing. I went to the gym the night before it attested out. I was like, I'll go work out, go in the sauna, see what the tea is. It didn't work. It didn't really work that much. But if you are not exerting yourself, it's for event specific hyper hydrosis. Like if you have a business meeting, for example, and you are sweating buckets. Oh, this could be great for my panic attacks. No, no, no, I mean, are we joking? No, I'm serious. Sweating is a symptom of like an anxiety. Of course. Yeah. So like, you know how a lot of people are just like, they get crazy sweaty hands. I got to shake hands with people. It's like a huge liability. What is it? Hyper hydrosis. Hyper hydrosis. And that's when your balls are so big and purple with saline and they drag behind you. Yeah. Is the snail trail kind of effect? Are your nipples wired? Are they? You always, you never answer. Because when people want to touch my nipples sexually, it does nothing. It's like, I feel like I let them down because they love to touch the nipple and be like, isn't that intense? And I'm like, like, you might as well just like suck on a brick wall. It's the same thing. Suck on a brick wall, bitch. I have a friend who if you, if you like, if you blew on his nipples, he would just jizz all over the place. It's like nice. Isn't that nice? It's always the sober guys. Oh, he ain't sober. Oh, damn. Take talk. But wait. So I took the medication and got to take it on an empty stomach. Very important. Very important. Very important. Side effect, dry mouth. Very dry mouth. Took the, took the med, did the scene and there was, I had, I was a little bit physical at the end of the scene. Vina comes over. She's my assistant. She goes to, to blot me. There's nothing to blot. Oh, interest. Are you going to use this at Netflix? We don't sweat at Netflix. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I mean, we're literally just, well, so I can't use it in the club because it's because I'm moving around. I'm like, you know what I mean? That's what I'm worried about your body having an adverse effect if it can't sweat. Well, so that's, that's the danger. You can overheat. Yeah. So you can't worry about, but, but not when you're on a TV set, not really moving around for a limited amount of time. And that's the perfect scenario. Well, I mean, think about it. Like imagine you're giving a TED talk and you're terrified and there's hot lights and you're in a sequined casuit. I would take it for that. I have a real question. If you could give a TED talk, first of all, would you go to the TED talks? If you could, would you go to watch them? Wait, it depends on who's talking. Single drop of blood. Would you do, would you, what would you give it on today? Today, I would give it on. That's a good question. I would give it on. No, I would give it on. Oh my God. No, I would, I would, I would, I would, I would, I would, I would, uh, uh, wait, let's go back to that. Congratulations by the way. Let's celebrate that. Mary, congratulations for the win at the Golden Globes on best podcast. Oh my God. I can't believe it. I was so, I was shocked. I was shocked. I was shocked. You all, you all can make fun of me. I believed we could be nominated. I don't care if that's delusion. I believe in us. Shoot me in the head, bitch. No, no, no. Millennial optimism right here. I'm happy we're nominated for Glad Award. I lost it for Trixie Motel, I think three years ago. We're going together. I'm still mad. They're set, they're strengthening numbers. I think we're going to take down. I think we got to take Lusculch down at the knees. Yeah. You know, and now Bowen has quit SNL, so he needs the work. And then Caleb Herron, who's fucking funny and nice. I'm going to have to push him down a hill. That's okay. These are the three people we're going to have to take out. To win. Oh, no, we get to take out Amy too. Both of Lusculch and then Caleb. Amy. And I think that we could scoop the, the glad award. Bob the drag queen has like 16 glad awards. Can you and I get one? Thank you. And just why are there two A's in that word? Glade. Glad. What is gay lesbian and alcoholics anonymous divorcees? Gay lesbian, alcoholic, anonymous. Divas. 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Road to Doomsday is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and YouTube. So we're going to do that because I'm going to the show with you. We're going here in LA. Okay, so Katie and I are nominated for a glad award. And we will be attending that ceremony dressed to kill. I honestly, when I saw like Caleb and Los Culturas, I was like, this is hard thing to win. It's hard to win. I disagree. 250 episodes prove, yeah, so what? They got Lady Gaga. No, this was me. They got Tina Fey. I'm nominated for a glad award a couple of years ago and I went. And to me, I think if I go and drag, that maybe I'll win. I think there's good karma to that. If you both show up dressed to kill, and I'm talking really murder, we're going to murder people there. Well, this is not this award show, but there's some award shows that are smaller. The ones that I get invited to where if you show, they do have a higher chance of winning also, and they kind of almost tell you that. Yeah, they're like, Hey, we'd really love to see you. Yeah. Are you going to be coming? It might be really good for you to come. Yeah. You probably want to sit near the front and wear some comfortable shoes. Right. So I would love for us to win a glove. We're going to. But and I'm sad we didn't win the Golden Globe because when we were nominated, most people thought that means you're probably not going to win, but I thought there still could be a chance. I was I mean, I have never felt so shocked and betrayed. Amy won though. Yeah. Amy won Amy Polar shout out to Amy Polar. Yeah, whatever. No, I'm just kidding. Great. Great pod. I love that when she talked to Gwyneth Poucher about what time they love to go to bed and eat dinner. I just saw Gwyneth. Not in person. I saw her in a movie. Wait, it wasn't a movie. Marie Supreme. It was a documentary. It was about that woman. What? It was orgasm, Inc. That documentary about the woman who was called or what was the company? Susan Powder. No, I watched that too. We need to talk about both of these. I'm sorry. I love Gwyn. I love Gwyneth Poucher. I'm on the Gwyneth train again. Orgasm, Inc. OK, one taste. One taste was this company where I'm not kidding. Now, some of you trigger warning. Grape, grape, grape. So that sounds dismissive. I didn't mean it like that. Rape. This is a documentary talking explicitly about lines being blurred at a sex positive company. Oh, shit. Wait, what company? What are they selling? It's called One Taste, and it was started by this woman. And her whole thing was like spirituality and being connected to the universe and the power of the female orgasm. So people would pay money to show up to seminars where she would like talk about like kind of MLM style, like the self, your success, whatever. And then she would get a woman on the table, take the pants off, and some guy would stand over and do this and make her come in front of everyone. OK. It was always guy and girl. OK. And then at a certain point, there's cult elements. They're putting a snake on people. They're wearing hoods. They're jerking it off. And then at a certain point, the only people paying to come were mostly men. So then the women who work at the company are like, I guess I'll go to the class today and get jerked off. Kind of crazy, really crazy documentary. That's that's wild. I mean, I wouldn't take a sex workshop unless it was given by Annie Sprinkle. Who's that? She's a sexologist, eco. She's a performance artist who is like she did a fun thing called a public service announcement. She makes love to the earth. She's really amazing. Huge boobs, wonderful person. Great. What about like a passion party being thrown by Condoleezza Rice? What about if you went to a living room passion party and it was Condoleezza Rice and she brought her dildos and was just like, let's go girls. And then she tickled the ivories and spoke Russian because you know she can do that. There is a special time that I feel like we missed out on as adults because we weren't women and we're not like. Passion parties. These are parties. What are you talking about? Passion parties. I don't know what those are. Tell me what is it. Small town USA like where I'm from. Like Tupperware parties? Yes, but they're not selling Tupperware. Yes. Oh, baby. So the women come over and then somebody's like sassy friend. Right. Oh, I know. I know. Ladies, you're not coming enough. Yeah. And then we're. Get the rabbit out. Yes. Yeah. Hook it up to the generator. So this is kind of chattering to you. Sex based business, self-positivity vibes, but it's like a performance of sex in a room. That's a perfect storm. So yeah, it was a and the people who used to work for this company in the documentary were very forthcoming and very blatant about what they experienced. It was a very shocking documentary. It was crazy. Nothing eats. Nothing touches. Nothing touches the Susan powder documentary. Nothing has ever touched it. I mean, are you old enough to remember her on the TV? No, never heard it for my life. Oh, I was there. Oh, I was there. And obviously the insanity did not stop. No, I mean, I'm very we're kindred spirits. She's, I think, a driving Uber in LA or in Las Vegas. Something driving Ubers. Yeah. Um, she stopped the insanity was huge. Well, it was really interesting because she was like, I have no issue working. I have no issue driving Uber. You got to work when she was younger. Her managers and agents, etc. All took at least half of what she made to hand they own the name Susan powder. There's a scene where she's on the website looking at Susan powder fitness items. She's like, I don't get any of this. That's my name. None of this goes to me. Brianna, that's why she don't make no music. It was so. But obviously this woman was traumatized by all this happening to her. And Jamie Lee Curtis produces it and they get together. And of course they're crying, right? And I'm crying because these two women are crying. And Jamie Lee Curtis was like, I've always thought if anyone would play her to be me, I was like, do it tomorrow, bitch. Do it tomorrow. But I need to see Jamie Lee Curtis as Susan powder driving Uber in a feature film. Yeah. It was a great movie. And I hate stories about like when I read Michelle Visage's book and she talked about seduction, her touring for years and actually leaving seduction in debt. They took all her money. Michelle never got anything. Michelle carried the costumes and seen them for everyone. She was opening for Millie Van Nilly for years. Stadiums. Michelle had, I think she said she got less than a thousand dollars a month. It's unbelievable. The music is so evil. And they made these the first successful interracial girl group. They made these women feel like you're so lucky to be here. You're a star. Don't worry about the money because you're just so lucky to be here. I've heard that before. Michelle just ended a huge run with that band, like with no money. That's years of her life. It's so fucked up with and also like just the just the dissonance of like performing the stadiums and like. Yeah. You guys want to go in on some Cheetos later? Like it's crazy. Do you think about touring? I do. Lately. How touring? Lately, I don't know what's wrong with me lately. I really miss touring like a scripted show with you. A scripted show? I like fantasies about doing Tristan Cotty alive again. What about? Is that crazy? The word is fantasy. This is I'm not saying I'm going to do it. Is she is she? But you know what I miss? I miss the body microphone. I miss being backstage as all in the costumes, talking about what we had for lunch and then we just go out there and do it. I miss the curtain coming down and doing that and then people screaming. I miss that. Yeah. And you know what I also got, which I didn't deserve. I got to walk in that show first and I got to stand on stage alone and get the first clap, which I love baby. I loved it was amazing. And then you come out and it's a double clap. But I love being second fiddle. That's my that's my role. We're not second fiddle. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, I'm in McMahon. You're not second. You're Johnny Carson. This is how I'm very, you know what I'm talking about? I'm a piccolo light dainty cuts through. I mean, you're a tuba. I'm an oboe. You're an oboe. Yeah. I love oboe. If you're going to sit here and talk shit about double-readed instruments. But soon do they have the thing that goes like that? Yeah. Love that. Love the soon girl. Can I tell you something? I think I've told you this before. Who cares when I was in school, we had to go to something called music convocation. Every Friday, every music student had to go to the amphitheater and watch some area of the music department play a show. Maybe this week it's singers. Maybe next week it's a string quartet. It's fine. It was your credits. You had to go. It's every Friday at noon, whatever. One week it was around Halloween and it was bassoon convo. And you guys bassoons are just fine. Oh, yeah, you've told me this. No, no, keep going. I forgot it. No, fuck me. I think it's no, I actually maybe do you. I don't know. I'm going to see if I can was it like, um, was it a, uh, uh, uh, yeah. I want to try to find the bassoon sound because people don't know. It's just a funny fucking sounding instrument here. Let's hear it bassoon. It's a farting. It's just like farting. It's too funny. I love that. It's like over your 19 and it was Halloween and they walked out with Halloween masks on. Horrible. Like, right? That is so. And they sat and guess what song they played. What? Take me out to the ball game. Like I could not handle it. That's so. I was like, is this real? It was that's great. We should do that. Play bassoon. 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If you like smart comedy, sharp conversations and trivia that exists purely to melt people's brains. This is funny you ask with me, Ike Baron holds. Follow funny you ask with like Baron holds on Spotify, Apple podcast or wherever you listen to podcasts. I keep walking by your old house. I know you. Oh my God, this used to be my playground. I take a picture every time. I don't know why you know that that that it that's a weird you said that song because when you send me that picture, it was like this used to be my playground. Used to be. I literally had the whole league of their own montage in my mind. I thought about I thought about driving home like it's like it was like 545. The sun's about to set fucking cranking it up El Contento, picking off pedestrian that time of day. I'm a margin up to the top deck to go out that it's amazing. It's just so beautiful. I could see your old Pergola and it's just bathed in sunset light. I was like, that's the end of life care up there. All those gore and on your way up, you get all those different flowers, like always in bloom in different times, all these different great yards up there. Difficult parking, but some really pretty. No parking, no sidewalks. You want to get hit by a car? Go up there. Yeah. Do you want to do you want to? You know, I love my favorite thing was counting how many fucking stupid rich fucks would wear head to toe black walking their dogs in the middle of the street at night with a black dog with a huge lab on a 40 foot leash and not just black, but let's say outfit the color of the pavement and full makeup, the color of the pavement, laying down with stripes, I mean, these people want to be hit. It's jumping out from bushes. And then when you when you come up on them, the audacity, and they had their headphones in the headphones in the headphones, Mary. I know headphones in the ear. It's fierce. She wouldn't get out of the cock a duty street. You know what I do when I'm up there? I have the the metagoggles that have the glasses with the open ear speaker. OK, so you can hear the street in the world. I do my my ghetto blaster, my boombox. Do you know, just kidding. Oh, I love the JBL. That's the clip for like going for a walk. That's noise pollution. You think people do that the reservoir. I think it's kind of cute. It's noise pollution. It's noise pollution. You think I do. OK. I mean, imagine on the subway. That's different. That's different. But OK, so memories, memories, memories. I was going to say, you know what you need to do, but you need to go up there. Like Jennifer Lopez. Oh my God. That clip. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Where she goes, I used to live here. And the guy goes, oh, you did. OK, bye, lady. And he's like, he's like, what's your name? And she was like Jennifer. Jennifer. And he's like Lawrence. Or no, he doesn't say anything. But you should go up there and be like, I used to live here. And they're going to be like, yeah, we always wondered who lived here. It's weird. We saw the shit stains. Right. It took forever to get them out. Why did you do that to the yard when the interior looks like this? Mama, not to put them on blast. I hear they're very lovely. The people who live there now, very lovely. I hope they enjoy it. It's a great house. So the. I, I, I, I, you know, I drive every once in a while because they used to go to my friend's house in the hills and I drive by. And you know, very slowly and then drive again, drive by very slowly. Just to. Leer in the leer. Pull on the driveway. Yeah. Run the car. Just like. Um, I peaked inside a few times, but the windows open. Did we go use your old shower just for old time's sake? But if they came home and you were like exercising, what if they came home and I was spreading naked on the pergola? I wish when you sold a house, there's a sunset provision. Like you can use the house half time for a year. You can have the house, but mama, that pergola is mine. Also come with the house. Free gift, but also like, well, the thing is from my neighbor, I've heard that they're so nice. I could, if I asked them, I could go. I'm sure they'd invite me over to sleep over for a week. Crazy, straight couple. Anyways, the way that I'm so rueful and nostalgic about this place, I can't even. I would be overstated. I can understand it because when I walk by it, it feels like your house. I don't know how to describe it. I'm like, someone lives in her house. The way that I loved having, I mean, there's many things about that place that sucked, A, there's no square footage. B, there was no sidewalks. Right. You could not walk anywhere. Right. Totally car dependent. Very car dependent. I mean, no, 100%. I moved to America's second largest city, so I have to take a 15 minute car ride, do a CBS. Like the moment I bought that house, I had to buy a car. Right. I had to. There was no other choice. So now contrast with my current living situation, which I'll give you a lovely update on, continue to hate it with all my heart and guts and soul. But wait, wait. So, you know, I told you I was redamning the moisture reader wrong. Oh, yeah. Well, you worked. I got it right one day. So, so I was a little bubbling, a little bubbling in the studio. They cut a fucking hole in the wall. They cut a hole through the drywall wet, dripping, black mold, the return game on bitch, the sequel. So I've got four giant deafening fans and dehumidifiers going 24 seven for the next four days. My I'm sure that my neighbors are not like I don't think they're in love with me. I think they're like so in love with me. Right. Because I must be the best neighbor they have ever had. You know, the hammering, the song, the fans. You know what? I'm going to stop you right there because in my old place, my neighbor, when I first moved in, I go, Oh my God, you're in. I'll make up the number. You're in 10 0 1. I'm 10 0 2. I'm your neighbor. Oh, yeah. She's like, oh, she was like, oh, you're going to be done with your. They're hammering every night. You better believe I am the only person that's building who does not have children or a dog or both. All of you can suck my fat cock and lick my my heavy clit. I do not care. I flush the toilet once a month. I don't even fucking there. I don't have dogs or children. The rest of you are fraudulent bitches. Shut up perpetrating frauds. You know, don't worry about me in my house, barely being there and being silent. Don't worry about me. Yeah. Renter, worry about your ugly ass. Yeah, I'm like, I'm the secret garden. I'm the child. I'm indeed in the cupboard. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're the perfect neighbor. So, you know, and to your point, my friend was like, listen, the people next door would not have moved to the city in a condo surrounded by two people in the middle, have two neighbors on each side. If they were so sensitive about sound and needed peace and quiet, they would have moved to fucking Albany. I moved into a condo because I needed to make sure that I didn't share a wall with anyone. How about three on each side? And I've lived in apartments and share walls like a long time of my life. It just is. It is what it is. Yeah, I mean, I mean, I'm the neighbor you wish you could be. I don't blow up the neighbors. You won't catch me in my house blowing up music. Oh, baby. No, no, no, no, although I did once in my old, old back in Laurel where I lived below the landlord who was, I swear to God, he was, you know, he was a great big fat person and he would like fall a lot. And it just felt like he was going to come through the. But that doesn't seem intentional. Falling. That's not like testing subwoofers in your home. And I don't think he was. Well, anyway, so one day I played, I had, I put on a movie. It made me go out. Dune. It was Dune. The way that that man barreled down the stairs and almost broke through my door and told me that screaming at me while Amy and Sam, Amy Dauin and Sam were there. The whole complex is shaking. God damn it. And I was like. Can I say when you go to someone's door, you got to know that you're not going to be perceived the way you think you're perceived, you're going to seem crazy if the door opens and you start yelling. You're just going to seem crazy. And what you could say is, you know, it just my walls are rattling a little bit. Is that OK? I'm sorry. We've never met. I'm so and so. Like that approach. Yeah. Compared to the whole God damn complex. Down in. Boom, boom, boom. Like, baby, I can hear you at 3 a.m. Falling down. Right. What are you doing at 3 a.m. Yeah. Bit your big everything broke that shoe. You know what I mean? So wait. So the. So my my life at home is currently again in shambles. But the. I, I, I, you know, I. I have something to add, please. It's been raining in Los Angeles. My guest house leaks. Everybody's got water damage. My guest house leaks. I had to have black mold remediation is doing my whole guest house. I'm in the club. It sucks. It's expensive. It's tens of thousands of dollars. For tell me about it. Now, now, now I'm a Moisture expert. The foundation, they got to do what they call a mold cut, which is the three feet from the floor, the entire property, the entire thing. And they did the moisture gut and they're like, you have maybe one wall here that doesn't have to be like gutted. Now, did you vet whoever? To know I called the first person. Is that bad? Who is it? I don't know. Do you know what the company's name is? What is yours? Well, now I'm scared. There's got to be more than one. Maybe it better not be fucking. It's not. God, it's not because, mama, they ripped and ran. They tore my whole house apart and then left without putting anything back. No, this company moves on all my belongings. It's a full service. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're going to put back all the drywall. They're doing the construction. Yeah. Yes, what else happened? What? You don't even know about this. I don't. Why didn't you tell me? So one of the issues was I said, well, Brandon and I have a storage unit down the street from my condo. Andrew told me. So in my storage unit, and this actually sucks. You all make fun of me, whatever. One of the only things I have that has value that's not money is my doll collection. I've spent years of my life collecting all these beautiful vintage toys, time capsules of American history and fashion, whatever. I'm a huge bag. They're really valuable. You love them. I love them. Yeah. It's one of the only material things I know is completely. It's not for food, water or sex or shelter. It's just I love it. Yeah. And I've invested a lot of my money in them and making sure that they have their own storage unit that's dark and dry and cool and safe. We went in there to get something. Mold the entire doll collection, my entire doll collection, dolls from 59 through 80. Basically are the boxes are all all molded. All the boxes have mold on them. And I'm having to hire a company to come in that does mold remediation on objects to go through the whole collection and see what can be saved, but I might have to. So all my videos of vintage dolls, they might just all have to go in a landfill. And I have the fullest insurance at that storage unit. The it only covers up to five thousand dollars. The fullest insurance at a storage unit only five thousand dollars. And so I'm wondering what you're doing. Keep candy coins there. My guest house leaking is like, OK, everyone's house is leaking. But paying a monthly fee for a safe, dry storage unit. I would have never occurred to me that this unit was just flooding. Yeah. I don't know why in Los Angeles we had to make buildings as if rain hadn't been invented yet. I didn't just hit. I know rain isn't new. I know. Well, Los Angeles is famously, I mean, depending on what type, I mean, unless it was, you know, unless it was built in the 20s and then renovated during the golden age of architecture in LA, it's going to probably be poopoo crap. If it was built in the 50s, 60s, 70s, an apartment complex is going to look like the cat's ass. Yeah. And it's probably going to be from tissue paper and witch ups. But, you know, my situation is a little bit more frustrating because I it's it's like I wasn't a victim of circumstance. A lot of this stuff I did. I made the most spectacularly stupid decisions. So after getting rid of the mold, having the bright idea to let someone put these enormously heavy planters on my deck, which of course immediately perforated the newly sealed waterproof membrane of the deck, having to take them down. All that super expensive, by the way, for nothing, only to cause more problems. Oh, yeah. So it's like I'm literally like I'm like, Brandon was literally crying because he was like, Brandon was like, you worked so hard for this and we went extra steps to put these what we perceive to be like the safest place. It's not in our homes. It's in a storage. It's not on the first floor. How the fuck did he get moldy? Everything moldy dolls moldy. Beautiful pristine mint conditioned Barbie collection. Rodding. Fuck. Sucks shit. We're going to have to go back on tour. Oh, yeah. We've lost it all. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I'm in foreclosure. Thank God. Take it. Take this moldy ass place. Take it. Take it. I live in a wheelbarrow full of wood chips and sawdust. It just sucks. No, it doesn't. And I don't want to like fantasize, but I'm like, OK, over in Wisconsin, we don't have leaks in our homes mostly. I grew up in a trailer. It did not leak. Mary, I the issue over here in Los Angeles, where somebody is somebody's up there just poking holes like we're all bugs in a peanut butter jar with holes. That was me. I paid someone to poke some holes. Crazy. Kill me. Slap me. Throw me down the stairs. I think I hope it stops raining for the winter because I can't take it. I mean, I'm from Massachusetts where we got, I don't know, famously like fourth like four thousand feet of snow every winter. Do you think we had one leak in our motherfucking house? No. No. I don't know what to do. I don't know why we don't just make roofs like this. No matter what, like my house has that roof. House doesn't leak. All of it rolls off. The new studio in Andrew and I moved into the top. So it's above it's above this restaurant. Why is the driveway concave? Love. And why does it collect puddles and puddles and puddles? And I was told not to park there because the restaurant is flooding always underneath it. Fierce. And that fierce in that country and that great and that lovely for a restaurant. What are we going to do? I don't know. Not live in LA. I try to call my blessings. I'm like, my house isn't leaking. Trixie cosmetics isn't leaking. The hotel isn't leaking. Once again, my little poker. But we also just redid the Trixie motel roof when we moved in. And it's not going to rain in Palm Springs the way it's raining here. Mama. Yeah, that's that's like, yeah, no. But I don't know, girl. Weather. We're having weather. I have another great story for you. Teaser next week. Trixie Mattel pulled over. It happens. It could happen. Trixie Mattel pulled over. All of this has been happening in the same like three day period. It's been awful. We've got to end on an unhappy note and on a happy note. And in the 50 episodes of the Baltimore beautiful, 250 episodes. Now take that, Amy Poehler. Just kidding. 250 episodes of nonstop, nonstop entertainment for free. Sometimes people will say to me about you and I, they will say things like you guys could just do anything and people would eat it up. I don't feel that way. And I know these people are watching us for 10 years. Don't feel I take that as a compliment because they don't understand. I think it's a read. I think it's insulting to these people listening to. And there's a limit where there's a when you're self, when you don't have it, you have a sense of humor and a sense of humility and you have a self deprecating sense of humor, there is a line where you should kind of check yourself and like, you know, I'm actually not a piece of shit. And this is not some stupid frivolous thing. It's a wonderful thing. I care about what you and I do in here. I do too. And just because it seems off the cuff or like, or that it's improvised or that it's not heavily produced or that we don't know how to say goodbye. But it doesn't mean we may not know how to introduce guests. Yeah, yeah. We can't remember anyone's name. What happens in between all of that is very important. Right. They love to say this to me, girl, I love how you could just wear anything. That's what I'm saying. Don't wear anything. I wish you wouldn't wear anything. What if we start doing drag, but we're just completely naked. We've been no padding on the wigs and the makeup, but just oiled, big black bush. Hateful bush, hateful bush. You just get it says very legs, big old panties and that hateful bush. No, I have a brown panties, but I don't have a mon. I just hold them on my lap just so you know, I could put them on. I have a mon hanger that I hold up the whole time. So much better than getting a drag. We should just bring in store mannequins with our outfits on it. Like this is what could have happened or a projector projector. Oh, love. Pain our bodies, white, different outfits. Love. And then have it cross dissolve so they change over time. I love the cross dissolve. All right, last thing. Last thing I. I love I've recently discovered that I maybe am not as interested in having sex with people as I thought I was. I can't can I tell you I listened to the last pod and you were talking about the asshole. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I knew you were going to have this Sarah Plain and Tall swing backwards. And I and I kind of did you because that's how everyone is. Does anyone else feel like when you're horny, you have a hookup or I used to have like three in a week and then nothing for months. Once you break the seal, you're like, well. And it's like I did everything I said was true. I mean, I really had the transcendental time. Right. But I just haven't really been in the mood. I think that's OK. It comes in waves, I think. And also I mama, I know me. Yeah, nobody knows me better than me. I love to jerk it. I love to touch myself. Right. I go through a hell of pleasure myself. I think we can go. Two hundred and fifty episodes. Thank you so much for letting us do the most wonderful thing in the world, because honestly, this job is so country. It's great. Thank you to Nick for filming and doing all the sound. Yes. Thank you to Tracy for always laughing. Always laughing in the background. Give me someone to wink at and I think you to Mark and honestly, Mark, to 71 and all of our guests. And also, um, P.G., our managers were the ones who were like, do you guys want to do a pod? I don't know if we would have done it. You remember I was like, start a pod this late in the game. Oh, yeah. I remember feeling like who wants to see have us do. I remember feeling like, well, we're models. People want to look at us. They don't want to listen to us. Why? Why are we so good at drag? But people are so happy we've stopped dressing up. But don't I remember thinking this is too late. This is too late. It's like too late in the game to this. Now everybody now, Gwyneth Paltrow has got a pod. Everybody's got a pod. But also our fans were so young, like they're cochlear, like little bones had just fun. Yeah. Now they're fontanels are heartening up. Right. And so they were cerebrally finally ready for a pod. Thank you. Now we're now we're all on the level. Right. Now that I have dementia, they're ready to listen. And a whole new audience. Whole new audience, which is great because we don't have any stories. Except me getting pulled over. I'm going to tell you next week. Clifhanger. OK. Two fifty one.