The Apocalypse Episode | Trash Taste #290
114 min
•Jan 9, 20263 months agoSummary
The Trash Taste hosts discuss their recent travels to Japan, including a surreal Kadokawa corporate anniversary party featuring bizarre performances, and pivot into broader conversations about sports documentaries (F1, League of Legends), apocalyptic scenarios, and dopamine addiction in modern society.
Insights
- Corporate entertainment in Japan can be deliberately surreal and dystopian in ways that reflect cyberpunk fiction more than traditional Western corporate culture
- Behind-the-scenes documentary access (like Drive to Survive) is more effective at building fan engagement than traditional sports coverage because it humanizes competition through narrative
- Dopamine addiction and internet-enabled loneliness represent an internal apocalypse more likely than external catastrophes, driven by shame-bonding in niche online communities
- COVID accelerated digital adoption and entertainment consumption by 10-15 years, permanently reshaping how younger generations socialize and consume media
- Humans struggle to care about existential threats (asteroid impacts, pandemics) unless they directly affect their immediate geography or require action within political timeframes
Trends
Documentary-driven sports fandom: Behind-the-scenes access creates emotional investment beyond athletic performanceDopamine addiction as social crisis: Loneliness-driven online communities using shame-bonding to create artificial belongingPost-COVID behavioral permanence: Digital-native generation unlikely to revert to pre-pandemic social patternsCorporate spectacle as brand differentiation: Large companies using surreal entertainment to create memorable employee experiencesApocalypse escapism: Public fascination with external catastrophes as relief from slow-burn self-inflicted societal declineGenerational digital divide: Younger cohorts lack social skills for in-person interaction due to formative years during lockdownsStreaming platform dominance: Traditional media advertising no longer reaches fragmented audiences; algorithmic recommendation drives discoverySports as narrative vehicle: Audience engagement driven by storytelling and character arcs rather than athletic skill alone
Topics
Kadokawa Corporate Culture and EntertainmentFormula 1 Documentary (Drive to Survive) Impact on FandomLeague of Legends Esports Dominance (Faker)COVID-19 Pandemic Long-Term Social EffectsDopamine Addiction and Internet LonelinessSports Documentary as Entertainment FormatApocalyptic Scenarios and Existential RiskDigital Content Consumption AlgorithmsPost-Pandemic Generational Behavioral ChangesCorporate Event Production and SpectacleOnline Community Shame-Bonding DynamicsSports Fandom Emotional InvestmentVirtual Reality vs. Space Exploration FutureAsteroid Impact Risk CommunicationJapanese Corporate Traditions and Modernization
Companies
Kadokawa
Japanese publishing company that threw a surreal 80th anniversary party with bizarre performances and installations
Netflix
Streaming platform hosting Drive to Survive F1 documentary series that has driven mainstream F1 fandom growth
Geeks Plus
Smaller team within Kadokawa that attended the corporate anniversary party event
Book Walker
Kadokawa subsidiary that previously hosted company events with similar scale and entertainment
McLaren
Formula 1 racing team that previously invited a host to attend a race event
People
Faker
League of Legends esports player; undisputed GOAT with 6 world championships and 60% of all finals appearances
Lewis Hamilton
Formula 1 driver; 7-time world champion involved in controversial 2021 championship decision
Max Verstappen
Formula 1 driver; won 2021 championship in controversial circumstances involving race rule manipulation
Michael Jordan
Basketball GOAT; discussed in context of sports dominance and disputed legacy vs. LeBron James
Usain Bolt
Track and field sprinter; holds 100m and 200m world records unbeaten for ~20 years
Guillermo del Toro
Film director; recently released Frankenstein adaptation on Netflix praised by hosts
Quotes
"Are we the bad guys? Fuck."
Connor (describing Kadokawa corporate party atmosphere)•Mid-episode
"I think it's a waste as well, especially for us who live in Asia to not explore Asia more."
Joey•Southeast Asia travel discussion
"I think to enjoy sports is to enjoy stories."
Garnt•Sports fandom discussion
"We're gonna turn around right guys. We're gonna do things for good now right guys."
Connor (sarcastically on apocalypse prevention)•Episode conclusion
"The downfall is going to be something that we've slowly done to ourselves."
Garnt•Apocalypse discussion
Full Transcript
Attention! Attention! Attention! Rail travelers, platform paces, window gaysers and our rest negotiators! Have you heard? The big rail fair for ease is here. Rail fairs have been frozen across England until March 2027 on standard class tickets, including off-peak, end time and season tickets. For more information, visit nationalrail.co.uk slash fairs for ease. TZNXGWGN supply Welcome back to another episode of Trash Taste Army Host Connick. Once again, join by the boys, Joey and Garn. I'm doing good, all right? You're doing good? Yeah, we went up to. Went to Fuji, yes sir. All right. Not climbed Mount Fuji. Just just for... Look, every time I go to Fuji, people are like, yeah, but when are you going to climb it, though? Is it just me? I have no interest in climbing Fuji. I didn't. I did it. You've done it... Have you done once or twice? Once. Do you have... Like, okay, it seems fun, but at the same time now, just the amount of people coming into the country, I can just imagine just Fuji just not being fun with the amount of people there. Because when I went to Hakuane as well early this year, this year, this week, and it's just not fun. Because there's just too many people. Because you're showing your family around, right? Yeah, I'll show my family around also. Aki's best friend from America's business. So she wanted to go to all of the tourist... Your dad had more climbing? Huck, no. Is that what I was looking for the nearest bar? Yeah, my dad was just like, yeah, but what are we drinking next? Have you been drinking a lot then? Yeah, like every day for the past three weeks. It's not even Christmas holiday, yeah. Dude, I went to Chris's bar for the first time. He finally took me there. Yeah. And I drank like seven or eight cocktails. And I wasn't... With your dad? No, no, no, no. You got free from your dad, and then you drank seven cocktails. Yeah, and I wasn't even phased after seven cocktails. Chris was like, man, you're drinking a lot. Really? Did you try his cheeseboards? I didn't try his cheeseboards. Because we went to a Italian restaurant beforehand, and I was way too full. We literally just went... We just said you are for a simple meal, I said. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was just like, well, yeah. He was like, you should definitely try the cheeseboard. I'm like, why don't you try it? And it's like, I've had 17,000 pounds of cheese already today. I'm good. He does eat a lot of cheese. He eats too much cheese. He's admitted to cheese. Yeah. But he seems happy. I mean, yeah. I mean, that's the important thing. Yeah. I mean, his cholesterol doesn't seem happy. Well, that's a future cruise problem. That's why they do the cyclone every year. It's like charity is like the second reason, you know, first is cholesterol. Yeah. What about you guys? What do you mean up to? Honestly, just chilling. I mean, it's a busy month before we fly off for the Christmas holidays, which like, are we all going back home for Christmas? I'm going to be in Chris in the UK for Christmas. For the first time in a, I think a decade or something. Wow, really? Yeah. I was trying to remember the last time I was actually in the UK for Christmas. And I think it was before I started dating Sydney, which is really fun. I could have sworn you're back. Yeah. I swear you were back as well. Why are you saying that? I don't know because it's a year because like, in my mind, like ever since we started the flashdays, it's always like you two are back in the UK for Christmas. No, no, I'm in Thailand. Oh, you're in Thailand a lot of times. Oh, yeah, yeah. I think you're all back in the UK for Christmas every year. The most years? Are you not? I'm not this year either. I'm just going back. Oh, you're not for Christmas now. Oh, you come back before Christmas. Yeah. Oh, what? I don't know. I just was like, I'd last year I did UK. I think that I do UK. I don't know what I did. And I was like, I'm done. May if you don't remember. When you were in Canada or something last year? I was like two years ago. Oh, shit. Two years ago. Well, three years ago, even. I could have been three. I could be three. Well, years are blending together. This is getting old, man. This is getting old. This is what it means. This is what it means to get old. Yeah. I just went to Hokkaido yesterday for filming as well. I came back next day as well. That was fun. When did when's that video coming out? Probably the other time this episode's out, I think. Oh, yeah. When's the episode coming out? Who knows? Who knows? But no, yeah, it was fun. It was a full day of filming stuff. It was fun. It was just so cool. I'll be exciting to show you guys. I'm sure you guys will know what it is when it's out. Maybe it's out already by now. If it is cool. Yeah. I don't know if it is. But it was, it's always interesting when you film. And we had like a, it was for a sponsor. So we had a bunch of people there. It was always so chaotic when you go from filming like us three and just one camera guy to tons of people. We want to make sure everything is going. Okay. Just like 20, 30 people staring behind the camera. Yeah, I don't mind that part. It's just there's always like so many stop starts because they're like, we're going to check something. You're like, all right. And you're like, cool. I'll just get some bread or something. I don't know. Get some bread. I'm giving us some bread. But yeah, from your reservoir of bread. I was with, I was with Pete, we went to a restaurant in the evening with everyone. And they booked it. So we went to a Kyseki restaurant, a Japanese traditional style restaurant. And it was a course meal. And there wasn't many courses like in the easy case. We had like four things that came out. Yep. And it was funny because some people in our group, not great with seafood. Some people are. But everyone lives in Japan. But everyone's got like different levels of how comfortable they are with seafood. So like the first round comes out and it's like the fish that is like the fully grilled fish and you eat the whole thing. Right. Yeah, yeah. And that's a big like no point for a lot of people with fish. Like if I got to eat the head, I'm out. But I like the head. The head tastes good. So I'm like, fuck it. I'm like, I'm loving it. And I'm like, I felt good about myself. And then the next thing comes out. And it's like a bowl of like tempura inside. It's like squid. And as I'm biting into it, you can see the squid legs of the octopus things like the tentacles. Jotten out. And I'm like, dude, I'm eating it. Like taste good. That tastes good. So I'm locked in. I'm like, I have two for two. I'm doing it. I'm doing it. And the third one comes out. And I'm like, oh God. I think I know what that is. It's like this tempura something. And one of them was aparagus. And I think that has like a lover'sparagus. Second one was this is ball. And I was like, hmm. You can know what that is. I know Pete starts eating it. And Pete's like, hmm. It was really creamy. What is this? I was like, I was like, you should finish. He probably tell you what it is. And he's like, why? Why? What is it? I was like, it's sperm sack, buddy. It's shiracco. It's like fried shiracco. Oh. That sounds so good. It was weird because it tasted good. But still in my head, I'm trying to get through it. Like I'm trying to like eat it and be done with it. Yeah. Because I want to finish all the food that I've been given. Because I just, I'm not a baby. I'm not even if I don't like it. I'll just swallow it. But it was like, I'm sorry. This is testing, testing my ability. You don't strike me as the kind of person who gets put off by like the concepts of foods. It's not the concept. It's, I think, more often than not, it's a texture thing for me. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't really like it. I think only, I think only I don't like the creaminess too. Something about like creaminess, there's like a texture. I eat it and I'm like, okay. But then in the cake, I'm like, great. Yeah, yeah. It's all about the same. When it's like with fish or seafood, I'm like, right, I don't, I don't, yeah. I don't like shiracco either. And I think it is the texture for me. I just lost some hatch shiracco. I couldn't chew it. So I just literally just, I deep-throat today. I went in, I was chewing and I'm like, I don't like this. I can't spit it out. So I just, I'm going to, yeah, yeah. I'm a fun believer in, look, you go to a place, finish the goddamn food. Unless it's a quantity issue, like there's just way too much. But like, it's a little thing. So I always have the water ready just in case. I don't have to do the, like in like the full throat swallow. Like the medicine pill swallow. Yeah, man. Like if you are not used to Japanese food, there's no like, no, like faulty, you might have used to it. Yeah. And some, some things might not taste good or might be very weird to you at first. Like that'll get you through the starting. Yeah, starting here. But I, I mean, I find the more you actually just eat these things, even if you don't like it, you will slowly start to like it. Yeah. But even the shiracco, I was like, it didn't taste that bad actually. I didn't like shiracco at first either when I had it as a kid. But then, yeah, I don't know. So something about where I'm just like conditioning. Yeah, yeah. It's just like you just told, I just told myself like, I mean, it's not going to kill you. And it's not like you're going to have it every day. So just eat it. And then, yeah, I learned to like it. Yeah. Okay. And I want you to tell me if this is insane. Because I think this is insane. So we went to the Sapporo Airport. Yeah. And I was walking around. And there's a lot to do in the Sapporo. It's quite a nice, it's really, it's like a whole mall inside of it. They've got like an arcade, a theater, an on-sen. They've everything. And then I always just play in the basketball game in the arcade. And Pete came up to me and was like, I just spoke to a guy. I was like, oh, cool. He's like, yeah, it's kind of weird. His mom came to Sapporo Airport and she wants to stay here for two days to explore the airport. Just the airport. Just the airport. Just the airport. Two full days. Why? Yeah, that's what I said. And I was like, that sounds, I know there's a lot to do. Yeah. Because we had to wait four hours there. I was like, it was totally great to kill four hours. Yeah. Two full fucking days. That's like going to the American being like, I'm just going to go to the mall of America for three days. That's it. Yeah, it's kind of high. I mean, I was like, that's okay. One full day, maybe if you're an airport fan and you love, really love airports. Okay, two days, I'm like, I don't get it. It's no Singapore airport. You know, it's a bit, I bet it's so cool. Oh, it is. It's the best part about Singapore. Yeah. Oh, wow. It's not coming in. What are the Singapore fans doing? What are the Singapore fans doing? I'm not going to be in my opinion. I've said this to Singaporeans to their faces and they're like, yeah, I don't blame you for that. Wait, why? What's about wrong Singapore? I just, I don't know. I don't know. Dragon bro. Dragon, I don't know. It's just like, it's not a whole lot to do in the city. The Pomegranate Singapore is that's so small. Yeah, it's like a, it's like a hill. Yeah, it's literally a city and then there's nothing outside of that city to explore. So once you've explored the city, that's it. I bet it's such a sick city there. It's cool. It looks cool. I want to go, man. It looks so fun. Yeah, no, I'm not saying don't go to Singapore. We want should definitely go to Singapore at least once, but well, I'll update it when I come back from Singapore, which is by the time this video comes out. Oh, you're going to Singapore? Yeah, I'm going to AFA. Oh, see? Oh, hell you did. I want to go one time. Yeah. Yeah, to be fair, AFA was also incredibly fun. Just seeing like Singapore, Singaporean fans are on another level. I would love to watch the F1 race. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That looks like the night track, night circuit through the city. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's probably the whole country you drive around. 20 March. Yeah. I mean, that's monochrome. You drive around the whole country. It's fun. It looks so sick. And like you watch it from the famous three thing, right? The tour. Yeah, to be fair, I think. It looks so sick. Look at that. Because this is a relatively new thing, right? Because like the one and only time I went to Singapore was when Gantan and I went to AFA, which was like 2017. It was a while ago. Yeah. It was like almost 10 years ago. About eight years ago. Maybe Singapore has gone a lot better since then. I don't know. But 2017 Singapore, I was like, yeah, it's I. It's fine. We didn't see the Merline though. I mean, I've passed it. I'm just like, oh, there it is. Cool. The Merline. What is that? It's basically just this statue of a mermaid with the head of a lion. That's sick. And that's like the, that's like the one like this is a Singaporean thing that you need to go and visit. I'm surprised I never heard of it. Yeah. I should get in the videos and stuff about them bringing back to the caning. Caning? I don't know why that's all on my social. I don't know. Yeah. I think it's something like weird fetish some people have online. And they're like really enjoy. I thought you meant they brought back caning for children. Yeah. I was like, they do. I was like, oh, damn. Okay. I think they did. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I'm basically setting up. Finally getting back to the good old days. Good old days. Oh, yeah. The good old days. These went weed dodger. Before us they get can. Yeah. I was none of them. No, no. After us. Yeah. The long discipline. Yeah. With the sheep. Kids these days they need they need more discipline. Yeah. Just feel very unfair that we dodged it. And we're suddenly get to make the rules now. Well, you guys dodged it. Well, you're in an Asian house. I don't know. I don't know what happened. We can't get home. They took away my Xbox. Yeah. It's Asia. We haven't patched that shit out yet. That's we we still on the old patch for that. Yeah. They just changed the name. I mean, it's a cool statue. You know, when you said mermaid lion, I really thought something a bit cooler. Not to be mean, but I really thought it's going to be like jacked. All right. It's going to be like a fucking real. Like a hurt your leaves kind of like. Yeah. It's going to be like, but it kind of looks like a trading like a like a playing card thing that you'd find on the side. Like on the, you know, on the side of the playing cards. Yeah. I mean, it's cool. Don't get me wrong. But like, you know, especially knowing you. You spawn, Navi. You spawn Navi. I heard Singapore. I'm come, come. Yeah. Fun fact with the names Singapore. It's from the Malay word, Singapura. There's a Sanskrit for lion. Was it like sons of bitches? Like the animal light. Yeah. But yeah, singer is light. Yeah. All right. Oh, that makes sense because they look singer beer. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. who are Malaysians, like just gonna be like, yeah, we're gonna take you to all the local places, take you outside of the room, so I'll actually have like a proper time to like, it's all the time, sorry. Yeah, I'm doing a Southeast Asia tour this year. Bro, I'm gonna be so fucking fat by the end of that trip, I can already tell. Bro, actually walk it off. Yeah, walk it off. After my seven meals a day. I work off my business. After my 16 lunches that I eat. Oh my gosh. Yeah, I'm very much looking forward to going back to Singapore. Honestly, just being in Southeast Asia, just great food, great vibes. Those people as well. So very, very much looking forward to it. I feel it's a waste as well, especially for us who live in Asia to not explore Asia more. Yeah, I mean, say that, but it's not exactly like it's easy to get to these, it's like eight hour flight. It's not like a one, it's like like career, which have only been to once, which is like a one hour flight. It's not that bad though. That means better than like going to America Europe. No, yeah, for sure it is. Yeah. I mean, if that might more work opportunities, I would love to have it more excuses to go and do things. Even then though, I feel it's like, you could, No, I should. I should have it here. You could easily spend like four, five days and like, you know, Vietnam or, you know, I mean, I would love to. Yeah, I do. I really want to, because I know that I fucking, I would eat them dry. Eat them dry? Eat them dry. I would show them true gluttonies. I am the grandson they yearn for. They just don't know it yet. They'll need a white boy like me, the show. I can help. I can help. I can change things. Every Southeast Asian parents dream is. I am, dude, the amount I eat, I actually would make them run out. They were like, shit, this has never happened. I have a gluttony unrivaled. Yeah, because how many Southeast Asian countries have you visited? Just one. Just Thailand. Just Thailand. Really? Yeah. Damn, you're missing Albert. Okay, well, you had the, obviously the Philippine connection to go to the Philippines. Yeah. That's about it really. And that's why you're ahead of me. No, I've been to Thailand as well. I've been to Thailand. I've been to Vietnam. I'm about to go to Malaysia. Yeah, I mean, I've been to Singapore. I guess if you want me to go to Vietnam, yeah. Yeah, I don't think my parents would ever be, even would want to go. I think that's a little too far for them. That would be hilarious. It would be funny. I think, I feel like it's a crazy long flight to get to Vietnam from a little Thailand from UK. All from the UK. Oh, yeah. I mean, it's that flight to Thailand, UK. Is there a direct flight? Yeah, that's direct flight. Oh, cool, cool, cool. Yeah, it's like 13, 14 hours. That's the same. Same as UK and Japan. Didn't use to be that way, but now it is Russian aspect. God damn it. Now it is that way. But yeah, how come you boys weren't at the Catacawa AT-A-T-A-N-A-Verseripati? Because I was filming a sponsor and I'm going to. Okay, okay. When was that? When was that? That was last week. Last week? It was like two days ago. Yeah, two days. Was it two days? Yeah, I guess. It's Friday? Today's Friday, yeah. There's two days ago. Bro, you guys missed an experience, man. Well, though, because I was in this meeting. Yeah. It was in this like really, like, you know, stuffy meeting. And they asked me if I was going. Yeah. And I was like, what is it? Like, I don't know what it is. And they showed me the like PowerPoint of it. And they were like, this is the gay bar. And I was like, what? They're like, they're like different sections. And they were like, this is the gay bar. This is the thingy bar. And I was like, well, we'll go back. The gay, what? Yeah. So can you shine some light into what that was? Yeah, what makes sure me like a generic image of a bar? And it was just called like the gay corner or something. The gay corner? What does that mean? Okay. So that there was a lot. That was okay. So we are, you know, technically, the Catacagher employees, if we go down enough, far down enough down the ranch, I feel like this podcast is owned and run by them. It is not. It is not. They have no editorial say in the show. But recently they just had their 80th anniversary and they threw a massive party. And it was so massive that they needed to throw four parties because Catacawa is such a big company. There's like thousands of employees. Thousands of employees. You could not fit everyone into one building. So we got an invite for Geeksloss, which the day that we were invited was the day that basically all, it was basically all like the foreigner kind of like companies, the foreign related companies all coming into like the Geysian party. Yeah, the Geysian party because like there were four different time slots of like when this party would run. And we got the worst fucking time slot. West started at 11 a.m. And at 2 p.m. What the fuck? Yeah. Okay. You get in, you walk in and you have your QR code and it's just a lot of Japanese businessmen and business suits. And then there's you can tell who the Geeksloss employees are. The Geeksloss talent are specifically because we definitely do dress like talents sometimes and we do definitely stand out in a backdrop of Japanese businessmen. Yeah. I wasn't sure what I was expecting because we've been to some Japanese corporate parties before. But this was a whole different vibe than anything that I'd ever experienced because I walk in and it's just this giant fucking, it's this giant hall. It's think of it like a conventional but it's very, very dark, very dim lighting. Yeah. And the first thing I see is just a woman wearing a lampshade where with like a very like see through your dress, just bringing out drinks in the up in the other corner. There is this person with a like a like a bunny suit on like like a like the like these white like no, no, no, no, no, like they had like a full box bunny, no, no, no, like like a key guru me, huh? Like a key guru was a key guru me like, no, like a Disney land kind of thing or not like a dizzy line kind of thing kind of like a miss was a sexual. Um, I was certainly fucking sounds. I'm not. Are you not? Yeah. Get out. It wasn't a bunny suits. It was a bunny costume. What is that mean? Like a full on like cyberpunk key, a bunny costume, not a zoo tope, a bunny costume. There's there's this, there's this manga where it's like a death game where they like have to wear like funny. Oh, it's the fucking the zodiac one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, like you're like, you're in your Tyson. Yeah, like you're in his eyes and that kind of thing. Um, no, not like that. Yeah, he's pretty fucking. Yeah, he's pretty sexually. Yeah, yeah. But he had like a bunny mask on and everything like, like a mask grade part. Yeah, like kind of like a mask grade part. Right, right. Exactly, exactly like that. Okay. And then another corner was just a guy with a mime with like a one. What is the thing? What is the theme? I don't. I don't know, right? I don't know. Okay. And so we come in and there's like food stalls like everywhere and it's like very, very bougie, a very bougie. Think of think of like a high class. You go to the top of like a, like a bar at the top of building something like a rooftop bar. That kind of like that dim lighting, very high class feel like the social light party. Yeah, yeah. And, and I get in and there is an installation right in the center and there are three big massive poles that are nailed to the ground. And I was like, oh, that's, that's weird. What is this for? And so what's the matter? Imagine the oil pillars from JoJo part two. And so halfway through the nights, they have this, this, this, this show starts. I don't know what the show is, but you have three people climb up there. And then at the top of the pole, there is this, there is just this fear, this, this, this white sphere and they climb into this fear, right? Okay. And then there is this kind of like fucking circus show or something. Some circus music starts. And then what? Yeah, it's what you're fucking so disillated. You go to it. And then you go and pitch up of horrors shit, they go in and then it's just like they, they like met morphize, right? And then you see a hand come out and it's like this monster hand. And I and it's, and then they come out and they're all like Greek gods and goddesses. And then they're like swinging around on these metal poles and literally JoJo part. All while all while ominous circus music plays. Okay. And it is the exact vibe of every evil company in a cyberpunk story you've ever seen. Yeah. I, it's, you know, you know, you know watching cyberpunk like 2777 and you go to like the, the top of like Arasaka tower or something. That was like the fucking vibe. And you were like, I was like, what am I out right now? And I remember. I would like to remind everyone. Kataka is a publishing company. Yes. We are a publishing company. And I remember. As this show was happening. And you hear the. And a second of Japanese businessmen watching this man metamorphise into a Greek gods, and I turn over to Mother's Babies, Basement, Jeff, and I go, are we the bad guys? Fuck. Because you certainly feel like we're going to be right here. Yeah. Kind of feeling very dystopian right now. And I would have been trooping balls, dude. I would have been like, what is going, what? So how did this show end? Yeah, how did this show end? What happened to the show end? How did this show end? I don't know, because about three quarters of the way through, I'm like, I'm too fucking sober for this. I don't care if it's like 12 in the morning. I don't just drink. I need a drink for this. It's like some France Kafka shit. But what you're describing it is seriously, I really wish you guys were there because I'm like, a fake cult you would make in a movie. It's like, yeah, I just first time seeing the cult. It's like something like a long chart, it'll sort of be a long chart. Yeah, it was one of the most surreal experiences I've ever had at any kind of company gathering or anything like that. Also the audacity for Kafka to be like, experience this sober. That's what I'm saying. We had the worst time slot because there was an evening time slot that all of the manga artists and illustrators and they were in the like two. But no, they get the fun time slot. No, we had to experience this sober at 12 p.m. and then go back to work afterwards. I was like, what? Was the food kid? The food was good. I mean, there was a lot of food. There was a magic bar section as well. That was weird. There was a whole section where people were just getting massages. Yo, they brought out the Marjon tables as well. There was a whole section where you can just play in La Jean. I would have been there the whole time. This is crazy. And then there was a stage where there were different performers. I think the most dystopian thing I saw was they had this, they had this traditional calligraphy and sand show. I don't know. They were doing calligraphy in like sand. I don't even know how to describe it. Yeah. Like sand art, kind of. Yeah, like sand art. And then there was this moment where they were drawing like the Catacawa logo. And everyone was like clapping. And I was like, oh, just, just, just, that was like a cult. I'm like, oh, this is, I'm in Georgia. I'm in a Georgia oil novel right now. What an earth. And they end the show by bringing on, bringing, bringing on a group of singers and singing a song from Les Mis. I don't quite know how to describe it. I want to, I wish I was like a fly on the wall during like the preconception of like this particular show being like, all right. So he me out. Yeah. So whatever you saw in the presentation, the actual party itself was 10 times wider. I saw like a dungeon meshy thing. Well, there was that dungeon meshy thing. Yeah. They had like a whole dungeon meshy section. Yeah. It's called, because it's obviously published by Catacawa. Yeah. What was that? That was just a very small section in the corner. Of most of the, most of this, a hall got taken up by whatever Cirque du Soleil. Was it good at the gay district? Huh? There's a gay district they set on the presentation. I think that was the magic bar districts. Famously the gay is like magic. Yeah, magic. Mine obviously. That was a lot of things. Unless, unless they're talking about the guy in the bunny suit and stuff like that. I, I, I, I didn't ask about that. I was like, we're seeing what the fuck is this? Gay, gay bar. And then this car. Like, can you explain? I'll explain a little bit more about that. The way you've described is like one step short of them, like ending the show with like, and now the sacrificial lamp. No, I was explained. You know what? I, if that was the case, I would not have been surprised. Yeah. That's with how the vibes were. Jesus Christ. It's. Wow. Yeah. Is it worth going to? Yeah, it was worth going to. It was, unfortunately, shame you guys missed it, but I would have actually gone if I wasn't doing. Yeah, I was. I was in Hockaida. Yeah, I wasn't Hocka Nese. I couldn't go. Yeah, we were going to have lifelong experience. One, two, I mean, we don't get many company parties and I wasn't sure what to expect from a catacalli party, but it's so different from the last one we're going to like for. Well, that was book walker. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. This was technically the first catac... I mean, catacalli was such a big company. Oh, yeah. It's hard to gather everyone on the one roof. I mean, either even book walker itself, it's like we filled up a... Yes, true. We filled up a boat by itself. Oh, yeah, the boat. Yeah. And also the barbecue as well, where we... I forgot about the barbecue. Yeah. You can do that. That was fun. Yeah. And then below that, we have Geeks Plus with a small, very small team comparatively, you know. Which is definitely not as extravagant. Like, use a Kyle. Yeah. Yeah. No, no strange dancers. No. Yeah. No. We wish to... I wonder how they decided on that. I wonder who's who got pitched and who was like, this is it. I mean, I will say, did leave an impression. It was Catacalli's 80th anniversary party, purely for its employees. And they wanted to do something special, where it was... It was definitely special. It was not a special. It's not a memorable. It's so funny. It was... You can write a novel about that, dude. Yeah, yeah. This sounds so bizarre. It was like, it was a natural field dream. Yeah. Oh, man. I want to go to this. Yeah. I wish I could have gone. The heck? I'm stuck on a plane. Yeah. I feel like I always am stuck on a plane like that. Yeah. I live on planes, I sure. Yeah, right. I don't want to tell you how long, how many flights total hours I've done this year. It will scare me if I look. Oh, really? Is it the most you've ever done? I... No, I didn't even think so. Really? Yeah, but it feels like a lot. Because I swear, Lassie, you were like, I'm definitely not going to go as many flights this next year. Yeah, but you know, you agree to things in advance and you feel like that doesn't sound that bad. That's how they get you. And then you do it. It's like, oh, yeah. And then you're there and you're like, man, the socks. Yeah. I remember saying the same thing last year. Yeah. It didn't happen for me, though. Did it happen for you, Joey? Yeah, definitely less, I'd say. Yeah, I feel like you've done way less. Yeah. I did more jobs in Japan, thankfully. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I did like the whole TGS thing and a bunch of other stuff as well. So much fucking easy. Well, like a one hour domestic flight doesn't count. Oh, yeah, no, no, no. That's like, I'm sorry. That's like, okay. You know, I rocked up to the gate like 20 minutes or so. Yeah, yeah. It was left. And I was like, this just doesn't feel like flying. This feels too easy. Yeah, it's like a shinkansen. Yeah. Yeah. The only part that feels like flying is that like, I don't know why this happens. No matter how long the flight is, when there's like precisely about 40 minutes left, it's the longest 40 minutes. You know what I mean? No matter how long the flight is, the moment I see that it's 30 or 40 minutes, it's all that says that we land. Yeah, for some reason, it's like ton dialects, it's like, you're counting every six. It's like, why? And I have a time I look up, why it's been one minute? I swear it's been five. That is true. It's not a big deal. And then the fight to get off the plane is always a fight. Yeah, that's it. You know, that's not everybody can't do that. I mean, you're too used to flying now, so it's whatever. Yeah, that's crazy though, that party. I wish you weren't really serious. We weren't allowed to take pictures. Yeah, of course you were. Yeah, of course you were. Yeah. The first thing they said, the first thing, they were like all signs around being like, do not take any pictures or video. So I was like, is there a lab going to be sacrificed here? What's the point? What are the vibes there? We all pledging our allegiance to our just a get a cow here. You must pledge loyalty and field to our Lord. That's very interesting. Yeah, yeah. But I watched the Frankenstein movie. Which Frankenstein movie? The new one. There's a new one. You don't know about the new franchise? I don't know. I'm so out of touch with one and get on the tour. Oh, shit, is that good? Yeah, very good, very good. I mean, it's if it's the tour or anything you touch, it's yeah, it can't sit on his end Netflix. Oh, shit, two and a half hours. Did you watch Frankenstein movie, Jay? Yeah, the new one. What I feel like Aki would have been all over this. There's something like peak Aki movie. I didn't even know what he's this. Oh, it's Del Tor. Yeah, Del Tor. Oh, shit. Just released it. Two and a half hours. Two and a half hours. Highly recommended. Holy fuck. Yeah, sticks to the books quite well. Yeah, recommend it. Okay, yeah. Really, really cool. Really good take on it. I'm down. Fantastic. It's very beautiful. Great music, great acting. All solid eight out of ten, I would say. I would enjoy it. It's Del Tor. Like he can't get along with Del Tor. I feel. How do you find out about these movies? Just keep up to date. Where'd you keep up to date? Genuinely, it's more like, it's weird. People are like, I told people, you're gonna watch this thing coming out. I was like, right? I feel like that person for me is you. Well, I'm like, you know now. Like, yeah. Yeah. Like, you tell me most of them. Yeah, I can't come out. Yeah, I can't. In terms of like advertisements, this just is not within. It's so weird being on the internet bubble where you are feds like ads that are specifically tailored to you, I guess. And this just doesn't, shit like new movies just don't appear anywhere in like my. Yeah. It was also real live in Japan. So I think we get a lot of targets advertising is a bit weird and often isn't aimed at us. Yeah. We get like, probably quite weird ads to be honest. Yeah. Because I think they're like, who the fuck is this person? Why do they have that? Well, what ads do you guys normally get? I don't know. I don't know. Do you know what? Do you know what's weird? What? Like going on someone else's phone or account for some reason, like sometimes I get Sinny's phone and just going on their like YouTube homepage and being like, oh, this is like a totally different world now. Yeah. Like, you know what I mean? Oh, yeah. It's like, oh, like you're at a friends place and on the TV, they have like the YouTube ad on the YouTube app. Oh, yeah. And you're just like, what the fuck are these videos? I've never seen any of these videos. It's like going into like a stranger's house or something. You're like, what? This is this is what I thought we had some like, everything seems familiar, but it's different. I want to tell they had a, uh, it's going to have to be a kind of style. Yeah. And they had a really nice modern TV massive. Yeah. I went on the YouTube and it was literally just Italian brain rot is in Japan. Italian brain rot and 10 hour low five fireplace videos. So that was it. It was the only two things that came off. Nothing else. I called it. Japanese too. Oh, Japanese Italian brain rot. It was Japanese. We do. All the other things. Well, all this. Yeah. It's really weird. So I was like, there's like, what's going on? Who's staying here? Because they had a permanent account logged in. Yeah. I didn't sit out of it. I watch videos on their account. Or I. Fuck up their algorithm. I don't know who it is. The weirdest thing is whenever you go to like a hotel or something and it's a blank account and you see you go on like the general YouTube homepage and you're like, what the fuck is this? Why does this have 100 million views? And I've never heard of this before. That's like the weirdest feeling of all time. What's your YouTube homepage like? I don't know. I'm not opening it like now. Let's see. Shall we compare YouTube home pages? Sure. Okay. Okay. I want ears. Let's all swap phones. Okay. All right. Okay. Let's see how much we have in common with each other. All right. Okay. Okay. All right. So, Gant is the new Epstein files just dropped. Yeah. Connor's one is why did the 1945 Japanese Army coup against the Emperor fail? That sounds like why you're not here. Joey is Danny Brown talks to me Anthony Fantano. Okay. And then the next one is Rabies the most deadly virus. And you're what? And then I guess this is Gant's right. Why is Japan so rich is the next one? And then microplastics in your brain. That sounds like me. That's science. Yeah. How much worse can home prices possibly get? That sounds like me too. Okay. Oh, this is so different. I'm going to scroll down. I'm going to keep scroll. How long do you take you to scroll down for? You find a creator that is also what? Let's run extreme stellar objects by habit. What? Habitability. Oh, yeah. This is this guy. It's an alien on the thumbnail. What the fuck is this? Chris Pratt breaking the parks and wreck cast for five minutes. Lotta AI Chinese cat mistakenly shipped to America. Bro, are you watching this guy too? Chris Spargo does these videos about very niche British things like Tom Scott style. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Okay. I'm scrolling down Joey and I've not hit a creator that I haven't common yet. I have a kind of a lot of overlap here. Yeah, yeah. Bro, what the fuck, Joey? How long do I have to scroll down? How long are you scrolling now, Joe? It's so funny. I mean, I'm still scrolling and I don't know a single one of these people. Oh, there's a couple of Asian boss videos. I found the first content creator me and Joey having common. It's trash. Of course. Oh, my God. This is so with no wonder companies have so much fucking data about us because I'm like, Joey, I thought I knew Joey as a person, but scrolling down his, this is so with scrolling down his YouTube recommended is almost like learning a different aspect of Joey that I just didn't know. You're just like 90% science gone. It is. I'm very much into science. Yeah, you're kind of, you're just like 90% like geopolitical shit. Yeah. I like watching politics. I'm going to ask Joey. I'm going to ask this. There is a lot more Vtuber content. So recommend it. Yeah. Bro, Vtuber clips do not fucking leave my feed. No matter what I hate it. Uh-huh. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you hate it, Joe. I literally don't watch any of these people. Why do they keep fucking showing up? This video is 11k views. Why is it in my feed? Oh, you have to like, I've clicked. Do I have to do the not interested thing? Yeah. Okay, that's probably why because I don't watch any of these people like not interested in shorts every single time. Yeah. I keep showing me shorts. Yeah. Oh, it's so weird. I was like, huh? Joey says he doesn't watch you. Vtuber isn't your... I definitely... Every other half video is a Vtuber. They keep fucking bringing it up. The algorithm doesn't lie. It's like you're an anime guy. They see my account name probably and they're like, you're into this shit. No, you... You slide down. You slide down. We see the word anime in your name. You love this shit, don't lie. Yeah, because it's, yeah, it's... Every time I log on to Sydney's one, it's just like half-vis like true crime and the other half is like, slop internet drama videos. Yeah, like he's just like police cam videos. Oh, god. But if you watch one of those, YouTube is like... Yeah. They give you every single time. This is infinite content. Yeah. For those police cam videos. For sure. Yeah. I noticed that a lot about shorts, especially. You watch one short and somehow the next like 10 shorts are of that same topic. Okay. Oh, yeah. They're like, oh my god. It's so obvious. I'm one thing. It's like, yeah. If I click World War II stuff, it will only build a World War II in my recommended time. That's too weak. I'm like, okay, I did one video I read seemed kind of fascinating. I'm not... I don't want that. I don't want that much. I already watched all this twice. So I'm good. I know everything about it already. I've already locked in. But yeah, I'm still watching the F1 stuff. I've been getting more into it. Oh, yeah. I watched a lot of F1. It's so good. Yeah. It's so good. The drivers of FI have so good. I'm on the final season. Then I can finally look at spoilers of what's going on. Spoilers? Yeah. I don't know. Do you give up with F1 a little bit, right? No, no, no. Oh, my god. I wish I did. I want to get into more sports, you know, because I feel like... It's so good. F1 is amazing. It's so... I'm excited to watch it, not through the drivers of I, like, angle, because they shape moments in it so precisely you can tell. It didn't show much footage cut down. Yeah. There's one really big moment where I like... And I really was wondering. And I'd love to know from the viewers, because I know there are a lot of F1 fans who watch Trash Taste. This is a moment. Do you mind if I sprawled 2021 F1? Go for it, man. Sure. Okay. So there's this moment where it's literally like neck and neck between the two goats at the time. Lewis Hamilton has won for like seven years in a row. And he's like undisputed that go, Mercedes keeps winning everything. Yeah. And this year, Mercedes is going to win the cup for like, there's two cups that you can win. You can win as an individual, but the race points that you get as an individual is a team, because each team has two drivers. Yeah. And Mercedes had already won the team one. But it was like neck and neck and going into the final race, they had equal points max for staff and from Red Bull and Lewis Hamilton from Mercedes. And so this race happens. It's going on and Lewis Hamilton's like kind of in the lead the entire time and Max is right behind him. But then I think I can't remember what exactly happens. He falls behind. But they stop the race at one point because safety cars of the accidents happen. And so, you know, they stop it and normally what happens all the cars come in and bunch up. They don't kind of catch up to each other and they're all line up again. And because Lewis had overtaken some of these guys that he was ahead of some people who been laughed and then Max was here. And for some reason they moved his car up. They were like, well, it's not fair of him. It's not going to be exciting because he can't take them in time. So that two laps left. So they just move him in front of the people that he hasn't laughed yet. Right. And this was like incredibly controversial because what happens is that Max ends up overtaking Lewis and wins the world championship. Right. And it's like incredibly controversial that this happened because everyone was like, he got robbed. And then the show when I'm watching it, it really makes like the impression I got like I really felt watching it that like Lewis got robbed. Like I felt like the way I don't know. But then again, I'm like, am I a victim to good editing? Because I feel like I'm a victim of good editing here. Like I'm being told a story and the story that I'm trying to say is that like it was a little fucky wucky the rules that allowed him to clutch the victory. And I'm just watching this and I'm like, I want to watch it live. I'm just like, I'm watching this thing and I really feel like I'm being fed something. Yeah. I don't know. But it's like, this is the day and it's just like now, like living this year, right? It's general. It's like, you're like, I'm being told a narrative. I don't know if I know if I have other pieces, but I know. And it is a lot of luckly. It's, you know, sports, which controversies in sports are like there since the beginning of time. I think, you know, there are some controversies in sports, especially when it comes to sports results, depending on whatever the rules were at the time where I'm like, this, to me, almost the stories like this almost make the sport more interesting in some ways. You know, apparently when it happened on the F1 Reddit, the straight about it had like 400,000 comments or something. Jesus. Oh my God. Or something like that. I don't know if it's that amount. But it was like a crazy controversial thing. Yeah. It was really cool to watch in the edited video, even like three years, four years later. Yeah. It's a, it was really cool. But yeah, I agree. I think controversy and they've fully lead into that. I mean, that this TV show is just reality TV. Yeah. But they have like unrestricted, like it's so mind-blowing to me how much money is in the sport. But then also, like, they'll be like firing guys on the show. Like they'll fire that driver and they'll have audio of this meeting. Like they have the audio of the meeting of them being like, sorry, we're not going to renew your contract. You're like, this is crazy. Like, if I was in this industry, I would feel it like, and maybe this is my lack of like being in it, but like, holy shit, I would feel so uncomfortable doing this speech on air, knowing that it's going to be absolutely fucking like ridiculed and ripped apart and the situation is going to be framed in a certain way. They have so much access. It's crazy. Like every moment is filmed over a couple of months. They somehow they'll like, they'll like, and they'll have calls between like, and I, like one of the teams, they constantly have audio of them. The guy who runs the team, the guy who owns the team. Yeah. And there's always moments where it's the host team that's having a watching. He's like, he calls the guy who owns it, Jean Haas. He's like, sorry, sorry, Jean. Today didn't go so great, but you know, next time we'll do it, I think we need to drive a change. All the thought he was captured. Yeah. Like, there's phone calls. And I'm like, this is crazy. Like, is this not supposed to be a private phone call? Yeah, I feel like the access we have is like incredible. Like, it's really cool. And that's why I think, I think one of the reasons why the show has been so popular and has gotten so many people into F1, me included. And I really want to go and watch F1 now and watch the race live. Yeah. But like, I've never seen like, like this level of access in any other sport. Like football, right? Like, you always see these press conferences, but we never get to see the behind the, the doors decisions like behind the scenes. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's crazy. I think it's really, you know, I think she's like, this is really interesting. Because like, you know, in terms of football, there was like, like, there are some teams, there are some periods where, you know, they, they, I don't know what shows it was by C. Clips on YouTube. It was a welcome to Shunderland was the big one. Right. So that was the big, the big one that kind of kicked off all the football docs. Yeah. And it's a lot of like footage now of just what the half time, what the half time team talks looks like. Yeah. And it's, it was like super interesting watching football for like so many years and being like, okay, they're going in for half time. And you don't know what that team talk is like, you know, it's, and it almost, it definitely brings another angle of appreciation to just what these managers do and what kind of egos they need to keep in check. Oh, yeah. And what a half time team talk looks like. I think one of my favorite clips is, I think it's, Jason Irrino, one of the goats, one of the good managers. And I think it was him managing Tottenham at the time. And he basically, at the half time team talk, he, he tells his team, all right, you need to look out for this one player. This one player is going to play this exact play. He's, he is going to do it because he used to manage, man, united, right? So he says, this one player is going to do is one thing, stop this player and cut some make sure and the player does the one thing because this team didn't stop it. And that's why Tottenham went never want to cup. Not even Irrino, he's pretty nice. Rino's clips are already funny. If you've ever seen this guy, he literally talks like a dictator. Yeah. And he's incredibly competent at his job. It's, it's the vibe he gives off is like show intense. Yeah. But he's a great, great manager. Yeah, he is. He is. I don't know if he still is. I don't keep up with football anymore. Yeah. I mean, I mean, he's, he's a great, I mean, he is a great manager. He's just speaks for themselves. And just a very entertaining personality as well. Uh, you, F1, there's also a tie British driver as well. Oh, I don't know if he's still in it, but he's in the season I'm watching right now. Oh, shit. And every time I see him, I, every time he, like, tells about his life story, I'm like, it's something, something like, oh my god. Not every time person is gone. But his life story obviously growing up in the UK, you know, a Thai family. Oh, that's very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very reminiscent. Is he good? Ah, no. But his thing, right, when you watch the show, the, the show is so good at making you feel like the goats are so fucking good at driving. Right. And I see the guys who are like lower than like, like, I don't wash, but like, these are all like the fucking best people at this in the world. They're all incredibly talented. It's like depending on which team you're on, really makes or breaks sometimes how you perform, like sometimes some of the cars are just better. Yeah. And that's the thing I really want to learn more about because like, it's so hard watching the show to understand how different the cars are. Like I have no frame of reference for why someone's car is better and why isn't it? Like why is the engine better or the wheels better? Yeah. Like, I don't know, like, there's no like quantifiable thing like that car is better. Right. Yeah. So interesting. But the thing that you mentioned with the football and the docs, I really like those documentaries because you get to follow one team and you get to follow that story. Yeah. And the one thing that I really like about the F1 thing is that you literally get to follow all the teams, all of their private things. And so they can really cut in these really interesting narratives. And you can, you can see how creatively they make these storylines because it's like, they get this behind the scenes of this team. And they don't know that it's actually going to work perfectly with the behind the scenes of this team because they've said something that works perfectly to form this really cool. So it's not just like one side is like, you get all the angles at the same time. It's really cool because once they'll often tell the stories not in the order. So you'll sometimes hear a story of like maybe the first episode to be from race 15 for Ari. Yeah. Because that was a notable story. And then they'll tell you if team for other teams. So it's really cool. Highly recommended if you haven't watched it ready. This is me just trying to pitch you on it because it's so good. I've been having a, it's one of the best like, I guess, pretty my favorite reality TV show I've ever watched, I guess. Actually, I mean, it's very half documentary, half reality. I guess stance out as a doc and very much becomes reality TV. Right. Sounds very, at least you're not watching just reality slop TV. You know, at least you were watching. Yeah. I think it was meant to be a doc, but then they realize the potential gold mine of making your half dark, half reality. I don't know what other people think because I've literally not spoke to anyone about this and my feelings on the show. Yeah. I feel like a reality TV show. Right. But it's been like any good reality TV show. It's great to get people who don't know anything about F1, me, into the show. Yeah. I'm fully invested now. I can't wait to go. I'm going to. I'm so sad because when I was doing cycle of thumb two years ago, I got invited by McLaren. Don't watch the Suzuki F1. I was like, I don't really care about F1 and I'm also cycling. So have fun. I don't think you're kicking yourself now. I'm kicking myself. Because that's so sick now. I would love you to go to that race. That's iconic. It's like the Aaron meme. Yeah. Connor. Well, like the Walter White in the car. No. You didn't know you were going to like these. Yeah. I don't know. F1 to me has always been like a very tall ceiling because it's like, I don't personally really care about cars. I don't personally really care about sports in general. Me kind of neither. Yeah. I don't know. I think this is a very strong vehicle and changing your mind on it. Okay. It's really, really good. Want to watch a easy show? I recommend it. You don't care about sports? I love sports, man. Not particularly. I mean, like I didn't really grow up. I mean, I did a couple of sports growing up. But like, Household wasn't really like a sports household. Yes, sir. I mean, like, my dad would watch like the cricket. I think to enjoy sports is to enjoy stories. Yeah. That's your story. That is it. I'm having a team to support as well. I think it brings a lot. Yeah. Yes, sir. Just because you have that like emotional investment as well. And you know, you can watch as a spectator. But a lot of the times if you watch as a spectator, you, number one, you know enough to appreciate the story lines behind it. Number two, maybe need to know a bit more of like the technicalities of life. Yeah. How the sport goes. If you just have the team to support, you can be like, you're my team one. Go them. Go, yeah, go them. And then you're like, oh, we suck. But at least you have a, at least you have fellow fans who you can say that we suck together. You've probably watched movies about sports you don't care about. There's pretty like a, like I watch like Moneyball. Great movie. We don't see it with Brad Pitt. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've seen Moneyball. Yeah. It's a great movie, right? Yeah, it's a movie. I don't care about baseball really, but I like stories. And I think sports are an incredibly human vehicle of telling stories. It's so like it's all about human struggle, personal. There's no fantasy element to it. It's like, yeah. Like can the, can the human, you know, like, can they overcome the odds and money balls, like a cool thing of like something, I think we all everyone loves to see. Oh, don't get me wrong. Like, you know, I love the human storytelling aspect of sports. Like, you know, the whole reason why I like slam dunk is one of my favorite long revolts time. Like that's as fucking human as it gets. But like the reason why I liked things like slam dunk was because I also liked basketball at the time. Like quite a lot. So like for me, it's like, it's not so much about like getting into the sport because of the medium. The other way around for me. I see. I like the sport. Therefore, I'm into the medium. That's about the sport. I started fucking with horse racing after a Muslim. Because I thought it was actually legitimately. It's kind of cool. Yeah. The stories by the hand of horses. So say, I like of a Muslim, but there was never enough for me to get into the sport. Yeah. Well, I mean, I haven't watched a lot, but just I really enjoyed hearing the stories and like the, the prestige and all the, yeah, the thought process. A lot of the Japanese sides are really interesting. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I've always leaned more towards like just straight up fiction as opposed to nonfiction. I don't know why. Right. Yeah. Maybe you're not just a me see. I don't enjoy the real world. Maybe. I don't know. I'm bored with the reality. I feel that. I feel that. Speaking of sport, the goat, Faker, dead of the game. Oh, did it again. We did it again. Fucking did it again. Six times. He's one. That's where you go. I'd sound on him. I thought like last year, I was like, I won again. Yeah. So back. Actually, I'm actually like, he's just to go. Yeah. He's actually cool to live and see that. That's right. Is there a, I'm wondering, is there like another athlete in their sport that has dominated as much as he has? Actually. I don't know why. I don't know why I thought Michael Jackson. Like, the music, the music. Yeah. Yeah. Michael Jordan, he's like the under-speeding goat of basketball. Yeah, I know, but in terms of like how decorated they are. Because I saw a staff. I think so, which is, I mean, it's pretty decorate. Which is like, I think Faker has won 60% of all the world championships. No, it's been 15. He's one sex. I think Korea's won 60%. Was it 60% finals? He's made 60% of the finals in the world championship. I think that's right. Yeah. Which is like in fucking sane. If you think about it. Yeah. He has been in 60% of the world finals that has ever existed. Yeah, it's, I mean, it is like, that's pretty crazy. I think it's, you know, when you see the goats of a sport, it's so easy to be like, wow, man, they're fucking same guy. But then like, I think when you go to appreciate what's happening in front of you, like the legacy that being made and the impact, it's just, yeah, I don't know. It's so cool to watch. It's so cool to watch someone just be the undisputed goat of something. Yeah. What do you even say MJ is the undisputed goat? Yeah, he is. MJ is pretty up there. He's the undisputed goat of bad. I mean, he's up there, but I'm sure a little basketball fans would have a debate, you know, it's a rock. Rock back me the fuck up here. I, okay, I don't know enough basketball, but I know Pete. Let me sp, right? Let me call Pete up, see if he bit. Pete loves basketball. Let me call Pete up. Is he the undisputed goat that everyone would agree? Everyone, there's a lot of undisputed goats. Let me call him. Let me call him. You know, there's a fucking Steph Curry. I'm just naming basketball players like like, what goat is all time? I'm saying MJ is one of the greatest, but is he the undisputed goats, you know? Well, that depends on who you ask. I feel. Yeah, yeah, because he loves you. Because I'm saying, Faker, I like undeniably, there is not a single league fan that would ever even come close to the Baton you. Right. Who the goat is. It's also because it's new. It is new. That's true. That's true. In 10, 20 years time, there might be another Faker or someone who is better than Faker after you retire. You don't know. Still ringing. Still ringing. Help pick up. He's taking care of his kid. No, I'm not. Yeah. He has, he has more important. He's a dad now. He'll call, he'll call, he'll call. He'll call back. Got a question. Hey, boss, what's up? James, special hotline. How many of you have to say the fucking thing? Okay. Super quick question. We were having the sports. Super quick question. We were having the sports discussion and I said that MJ is the goat of basketball and golf. Like the undisputed goat. Oh, you see the undisputed goat or is he not the undisputed? He is definitely disputed. Oh, that's what I said. That's what I said. I thought he was the undisputed goat. Okay. Look, I think that the biggest question in basketball is that discussion. Oh, is it really? Well, I mean, it's like some people ride or die with Michael Jordan. I don't say he's the undisputed goat. Right, right. Others will say, are you crazy? LeBron James is the guy. That's what I said. That's what I said. That's a LeBron. Yeah. Yeah. That's fair enough. And I'm not here to make the call. I'm just saying that it's the most fun of going to any sports pub because that discussion rages on for eternity. Well, I wasn't aware of this as a white ball with no ballgame. But I'm glad. Thank you for enlightening me. Senator, you do know this stuff. You called the other white guy. Wow. Well, this white boy knows ball. Yeah, he's not motion. I don't know. Wow. So when I say, when I say, Connor's like, oh, no basketball. Oh, no, let me call Pete. Let me call Pete. When Pete knows, he knows ball. Hey, you know what? The fact that you can name both players. I'm proud of you both. But you will find people arguing this forever. And it's such a fun argument to be had because it's, they're both extremely good players. That's fun. Yeah. Thanks for enlightening us. Sorry for taking up some time. Appreciate you. That's all good guys. Have a good one. All right, bye. Well, there you go. Disputed. I was wrong. Yeah. Connor, you're a fucking idiot. Again, I don't know. I don't know enough about this sport or most sports to be like, yeah, there is one undisputed champion of this particular sport. I can just easier because the league is new. Yeah. Yeah, it's like the first go, you know, that's that's true. Yeah, but you know, it doesn't because this probably race and see bias as well. Right. Like I'm sure a lot of people say like, Oh, in track and feel like Usain Bolt is like I can broken multiple records and I mean, if you hold the world record of the track, I think you are the girl. I mean, you're the girl until your record is beaten. Yeah. But like, you say about did that like nearly 20 years ago. Yeah. Not being beaten by in 20 years in a track and field event is is a long time. Shit. Is he still the one record holder? No one's beating this time. He's the guy. He's the goat. Yeah. Can we say that? I think does he still hold the 200? I think so might have been 200, but he still holds the hundreds. Yeah. Yeah. And it's like, I think it's like not close. Like I think there's a little like in terms of the sprint. Yeah. Yeah. He still holds the 200 and 100 200. Like he is the guy that all times 100 meter relay. God damn. He's the guy. I think like that's why we don't know about like and I know obviously we, you know, I maybe you are familiar with the current number one in the world. It's the I've got his name. But like you remember his name. It feeds the world record and he's undefeated, you know, because he's the fastest. And no, no, I also think it's the current one at recently. Yeah. No, the you year guy. Yeah. Yeah. That's not all. Yeah. And he like he's obviously extremely talented, but it's like, you know, you can't be the goat unless you beat you same ball. Yeah. Well, that's, that's the thing about, you know, Olympic stuff. There is a world record there. Yeah, but it's also like the cool thing about the Olympics and when these records do stand for so long is that, you know, the Olympics is like, obviously the cutting edge and the shummy improvements and technology as well as training. And it's like to have a record stand that long is like seriously impressive. Yeah. It's so cool to see you. I always find it interesting when someone, because you know, someone, you know, growing up in video games, you're used to like video game terminology and stuff like that. And you know, getting into like traditional sports is always interesting to see what they hiss like the history of like traditional sports and how sometimes you haven't had to that comes along that just completely breaks the rules. Yeah. Yeah. The breaks the rules of that. Like the Javilan guy. I always forget his name. I was like an entire documentary about this guy where like he was the, just the most go to Javilan's are on the Olympics that they made several new rules in the Olympics just to keep up with how far this phone could throw. I always forget his name. Well, he's like the goat of Javilan's. Well, like the guy who invented the modern high jump technique. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think the triple jump is still undefeated from like 40 years ago. Is it? Can we triple jump record? I think it is a British guy did it a long time ago and she did this legendary jump. Oh, yeah. 18.29 meters. Yeah. Jesus Christ. He did it in 1995. Holy shit. Nobody's beaten it since. Have you ever tried to do triple jump? It's so hard. I know. Did you have to do it in school? It was like sporting stuff and there was always, there was maybe like two or three. Cause you know, I don't know about you guys but like Sports Day in Australia was always voluntary so it's like, okay, we're going to do the year 12 triple jump whoever wants to compete come down kind of thing. Oh no, we had to like, we had like houses and we had to elect two people from each house to do it. Oh, really? Yeah. Yeah, we had houses as well but it was completely voluntary if you wanted to do it or not. But it was about the Was there a limit to how many you could do? We were like limited like you can just send the goat kid out to just win everything. Yeah, oh we did Oh, whenever it was like high jump, it would just be like all right. He's the best. He's gonna be there I would be like 100 meter who's the fastest that they put him on that Who's the fastest oh same guy okay, and then it that'd be his dawn you get to and then they get to the sports like The disc tossing be like Well, and then they had to I everyone had to do too. Oh really everyone had to do too. Yeah, yeah I feel like there is no there's no better track of field like you know thing that makes you feel More uncordenated than the triple jump. Yeah, yeah, it's a tough. It's like the long jump. That's this fucking easy Just run it jump. Yeah triple jump you're just the rhythm always like through me. Yeah, yeah, right You're always just like stumbling By the end of it and it's like oh two meters I don't understand what the history of the triple jump is why I'm sure there's a three hour documentary on YouTube somewhere breaking it down. I'm like long jump that makes sense. Why triple jump? why Are obscure but maybe we're going to the ancient children's game of hopscotch That's so cool I guess it is just competitive hopscotch. Yeah, someone looks at hopscotch. It was like we can go for that I mean, it is cool. It's cool, you know That's that's one of those sports from like how do you how do you get into that? Like how do you start like another like another one where I'm just like is pole vault school You just try like it because like I had the option to try pole vault in school No, I went to athletics outside of school. Oh, I see they had a pole vault And like if you want to do something you just had to like ask and wait Maybe for that to be room, but you would just do it. How do you begin to get good at pole vaulting? Uh, it just feels like one of those sports where it's like how do you how do I even start? I'm just I'm sure you do over and over the technique Yeah, like they're like okay there and then they have people who put the mats So even if you're like you go up it for it and fall back down. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah Like I get it in theory, but in practice. I'm just like I look at that. I'm just like how I really wish I did it That's pole vaulting seems so fun. It seems scary. I want to do it man. It seems fun I've seen too many pole vault accident videos or I'm just like I'm going to be like the snout the one where they snap or the snap or like you know They go up and then they just land directly on the pole as it's coming down like it just it just Love the game love the game. Yeah, I'm the game. I guess yeah I mean, it's not exactly the most dangerous sport compared to slacks. I'm the others I would say Like what? Oh, no, I've always been scared of like fucking discus or something just having that much weight in your hands Like I'm like yeah, I don't know. I'm like if I fuck up this technique. I could kill someone All like javelin you know when you're a kid like it's so hard to like pull a muscle or fuck you just kind of throw things Yeah, exactly. Yeah, there's a kid. He got mine. But isn't adult. I'm like oh god with the shot pot my fuck I'm gonna pull my neck out. Yeah Yeah, I had to throw The tungsten cube for Ludwig's thing like two years ago. Oh, yeah, and I was like gonna shot put it like a normal shot Yeah, yeah, when I put it in my neck it was a cube and I was like the corner was just I'm like wait, it didn't fucking work and also it's way too heavy. Yeah, it was like triple the weight of a shot Put and I was like I can't do the spin. Yeah, so I just had to like just fucking throw it like that. Yeah It's ridiculous. I didn't like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I was like this is shit. This is such a fucking stupid idea And also eat super it would have been super easy to cut myself. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, it was so sharp Never do a cube toss. I'm gonna let a ball out. It's probably why it's not an only big sport Yeah, true All right, yeah, I don't know I just I just see a lot of these maybe it's because I was always just shit at these track and field sports Like the only one I was really good at was high jump and long jump, but that's Easy to explain. Yeah, yeah, also I'm tall so it holds but I just looked at like it's especially like triple jump or like pole vault or any Those and I'm just like how do I even start? Yeah, it's crazy Yeah, I think you just have to get into like athletics clubs and they they're like you know, curtew basically. Yeah, it's like You just have to go to them very not and but they're not always available or nearby right so I think a lot of the sports like I would have loved to have tried fencing But I just was not an associate economic area where that was an option You know, that's and like maybe there was one dedicated club. I didn't know about it You know say it's just like there's certain sports like horse racing Like if you're not a question. Yeah, if you're not born into like Royalty, you know, an extremely wealthy family. Yeah, sport doesn't exist in your life. Oh totally. Yeah, because I think people's asking me about that He because he was like, you know, he's like, oh, you know, dude, do British people care about horse jumping horse racing? I said, not really. It's not a sport that anyone really gets to be or participate or watch Yeah, it's not really televised except for the really big competitions Yeah, and then I think people would just like to see the British people win But I don't think people like actually know the rules or know how it works really yeah to very like privileged sport So people like football okay, if you could hypothetical question if you could be the goat at one sport Like like nobody even stands a chance like no one stands as yet like if you could be the faker of any sport What would it be? Like one that you could see yourself like if you put if you could redo your life from as a child and you could Dedicate yourself to like one sport that you know you'll be into and you know you'll be good at and you could end up being the goat at that sport Shooting Shooting yeah, you just want to be the Turkish dude It just seems like it is a versatile skill set you've a lot of backup options If you have the goat aim I'm sure this work. I'm sure there's always work true. There's always someone who needs a good shot It's like Connor. We need you to take something out real quick. It's like I'm in a competition right now Like just understanding like bullet drop and topography in the earth's rotation Yeah, okay God what would it be if you could if you could redo your life and be the underspeed to go at a sport Undisputed goat yeah, he sports I'd want it to be one of the really weird ones Yeah, I mean if you'd like the goat of like extreme or something Yeah, just kind of your life is that yeah, no other options. I'd like to be the goat is something you say the like is a bad thing If you the goat at football you are a multi-million MJ MJ doesn't play basketball anymore. He plays golf You know the best baseball for a He's done his time. What if I want to do my time be done, but they always know me as the guy Well, that's same with like MJ. I'd like to walk away. Have you not seen space jam That's a great movie. It's a great movie and remember when they clowned on him for you know Giving out basketball to do a baseball Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, remember that plot line. I'm not very good at baseball. Yeah You know just because you're the goat in one sword doesn't mean you're the goat in multiple swarts He told me those are conspiracy theory about that. Well him why he did back baseball Uh, yeah, and I didn't know if there's any truth this, but I'll just repeat around them Rubo that okay, okay The room the room ago is was that You know because MJ famously enjoyed a good gamble. Yeah, he enjoyed side-batch with his friends and whatnot So there's a conspiracy theory that he was forced to stop playing basketball like under the under the table He did some kind of betting stuff that he pretty shouldn't have done Yeah, so he was like I'll just go on a baseball then For a year or two and then he was like this isn't working. Yeah I'm gonna go back to the bottom of the face. He did not work out But he was the goat and came back and won again So he's Thrilling dolls cuz of his shoes. Oh my god. Yeah, that's really cool. Yeah, I see showhey Utani So let me pick up basketball randomly Loaded out the rules truth Yeah, I mean, O'Honey is the the goat goat of uh like that I mean they say that he might be the greatest player who's ever lived. I think so yeah The stuff he's done is pretty crazy. Yeah, cuz up until that point it was what Babe Ruth right? Yeah, yeah, but he didn't pitch and I don't think he pitched I could be actually wrong I'm not feel my baseball this is where we peaked come on and yeah, yeah, Pete knows all of this law We should have asked this on the p-episode. Yeah, no He knows literally everything about this stuff. He is he is an absolute lover of sports Brew and through you know everything about sports It's fun going to talk to him cuz he'll tell it's like listen to a grandpa tell the stories around the campfire Let me tell you the stories about Babe Ruth Yeah, he tells the stories as if he was there But that's the best story tell yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah Have you ever thought about what's like moments in your life that you know the young in generation gonna ask about being like Oh, you you were there to express this I was available Do you think they were they're gonna ask us about like the fucking lockdown covert thing? Oh 100% No, no, I don't think so you don't think so no because did you ask your fucking granddad about Spanish flu in 1930? No, you didn't fucking care it was it was a footnote in history. Yeah, but he wasn't in fucking Spain At that time that was Spanish flu whenever oh Yeah, but I mean like it wasn't I feel like I don't know I wasn't they during the Anything you would ask I could have been wrong about that. I feel like you would ask about the most prevalent history that happened at that time Which might not have happened yet for us. Uh-huh. My knowledge is just carried thought I reckon they'll I reckon that lost us about like the beginning of the internet Yeah, I think that actually yeah, that would be cool Yeah, have you have you have you make shit up. Yeah, yeah, being like that is like granddad Can you tell us about this MSN thing you speak of they were MSN this Skype thing you speak of what was that like outside of 911 Have you ever had a moment Outside of 911 have you ever had a moment where you were just like damn I'm like living through history right now because you know when you have some moments when you're like damn Whatever I'm witnessing now. This is like a historical moment this because I just imagined what it was like just being at home Uh and being like our grandparents agent just witnessing like the first moon landing. Oh, that would have been so cool Just imagine that feeling man. Yeah, and I'm just thinking down. Do we have a moment like that in our lives where we have like a shared collective Yo, this is history being made. I don't know man. Just like us. We're gonna wait for Elon to land on Mars I feel that would be pretty big whenever it happens Yeah, I think they'll look back at this time Yeah, I think we'll have lived through a time people are gonna talk about yeah I definitely think the beginning of the internet is gonna be one thing wherever it is in the next 50 You can be like mom dad. What was a chat GPT like when it first dropped? What was what was that like what what how did time you first met Grock How did the internet reply? I said, how did you do anything without the internet? What are these books you speak of? I think bucks will be popular. Oh, yeah, I think books will be more popular Gonna make it come back if it hasn't already already have not that it ever fell off What kind of fell off reading reading kind of fell off I think people are gonna ask about the pandemic maybe I think a lot of people Especially even which kind of sphere you're talking about that talking about like the Anglo Western world, you know, you you kind of talk it via like the president or the prime minister at the time, right? Yeah, so I think that that won't change I think there's certainly a lot of stuff to talk about That has happened in this current era A lot that's happened I feel like there's a lot to talk about. I mean I feel like this modern era has just It it feels like you can't just let it between post-COVID and pre-COVID Maybe like indirectly, but just the whole vibe of the world has just changed indefinitely I think that's because we lived through it, but because I even now I think people are like Like they don't talk about it anymore. They don't talk about it, but you can feel the effects I mean inside fucking industries. I feel like have been made and have Like become a permanent mainstay of our lives. I think because of course the entire generation of kids as well Like that went through that has changed I think a lot of that will be oral history that happens later on where people who are older can talk about more of the Of their life and and they can probably say hey look like when I look through this thing This thing changed everything But like on like history paper. I wonder if it will it will reflect because we often have a time Like a thing that we do in history where we let to boil things down into like Like if you do World War II for example Yeah, kind of look at the world through the lens of World War II And then you pick where it like kind of starts and where it kind of ends and you kind of look at everything As it correlates to that thing as opposed to like This thing changed everything Yeah, I don't know like I think we're quite bad at like Wanting to talk about history as a total thing because it's so long and messy Yeah, so it's a lot easier to break it down Yeah, yeah, like do wonder if we will I do wonder I'd like to think we would do I don't have a lot of hope how different do you think the world would be if COVID never happened And we just had another year of just whatever you know, I think COVID Accelerate a lot of things do you think it accelerated it or yeah? I think it's a lot of things like you think okay For example, you know, I think shit like Uber Eats or something which is like now Mainstain a lot of people's lives and just like yeah, you know Take away. Yeah, do you think obviously COVID accelerate that but do you think it would have gotten as big into The lives of as many people without it. I think so same thing with like and like you know Obviously my industry anime, you know that got supercharged by COVID where we've gotten to point where I would argue that anime is mainstream now Would it have gotten that way if COVID didn't happen was was it always I think what have happened eventually yeah, yeah, COVID just accelerates all that yeah two three years of COVID yeah Accelerated internet adoption and entertainment from the internet. Yeah, I think and rely on it by like 10 15 years. I think it's sped it up Yeah, because yeah, obviously if you're I'm sure you'll remember like TV shows kind of they were still kind of out but as we got into the first year Slow down a lot TV shows have made as much movies about being made as much people massively adopted Livestreaming TikTok YouTube and went way deeper into that rabbit hole And so I think that sped it up by like 10 15 years. Yeah, yeah, somebody who's making content at that time I mean, I noticed from all the growth and stuff that we had Trash Tase camera this time. Yeah, yeah, it was massive. It was crazy. It was like views that Should have never have been there. Yeah, started happening and people were getting Really into anime getting really into Japan and all this stuff like yeah, yeah sure, you know would not have happened otherwise Because it's it's like it's interesting because I think about there because I think one of the big one of the biggest generations That was affected was like the younger generation right because as adults You we already have certain patterns and certain behaviors that we have learned from all the years that we were living But I would argue that a lot of these new industries that have cropped up like you know live streaming Like anime and stuff is a lot a lot of the bigger numbers that we have seen are numbers that were adopted by You know the younger generation that have now Been becoming like an inbuilt pattern of just their daily life and they're gonna grow up And now it's just going to become more and more popular because they already have that pattern of behavior Yeah in them as like a form of entertainment and it makes me wonder if COVID didn't happen Would it have ever gotten as big because we were forced to be inside and use social media and kind of like adopt Platforms like TikTok and other alternative routes for entertainment I think it would have happened, but I think the growth would have just been more gradual Right, like as Connor said like I think COVID Those those three years that for a lot of people are now just a blur Because most of the time we were just inside consuming content I think that just sped up the dependence of the internet not just in entertainment and you know relieving boredom but also just like a way to communicate with other people right and now you have a lot of the younger generation Especially who those who are in you know elementary school all the way to high school year-end college who went through that You know phase of being very isolated socially. Yeah, so who are now coming out of COVID and being like Fuck how do we do this without COVID or the internet like how do we how did we do this before COVID again And so they're struggling through that now and it's really like I don't know I look at that and I feel It's I feel a lot of pity for that because I'm just like oh man like that Just really fucked up an entire generation. I feel I wouldn't say fucked up I would say it just it complicated matter. No, I mean it was a big part of a lot of people's lives I think um I think especially those in like the most formative years that you know it sucks that They will never get a years back exactly. Yes, you know, I've heard some stories where people actually enjoyed the COVID years I I think I think we view it as a You know comparing it to our years in those like form 15 years, but um here are some stories like hearing King some people who said that their school experience was just being on zoom calls Yeah, they would just play video games. Yeah, I'm not gonna fucking learn anything as a kid Like I got my laptop and put it in there. Yeah, so happening. Yeah, but also that sounds fucking great That would be some that would be some nice memories of uh me just being just being in a zoom Because you would eventually you would learn the things and you would get them down because that's who you are Yeah, you wouldn't you know that you still need to learn these things and you'll do it Yeah, and I think for kids like that whatever it probably didn't affect them much But yeah, it's that pretty really needed that in-person support. Yeah, they needed that social aspect Yeah, I'm sure it probably set them back quite a lot Yeah, yeah, and I've run as fortunate where they just kind of get school and things are easy and things make sense. Yeah Yeah, you know, it's how it goes very unfortunate really yeah And it's it's insane that we've seen this much effect from like Basically our two years To be noticed that people are like way more Considerate of like I suppose like drums as a as a concept now. Yeah, they were before Which I think is good yeah But Japan I feel like a little extreme sometimes I mean Japan was already extreme white And I feel like it took it to like another level a little bit Yeah, yeah fine because you know, it's one of this but I do hate the everything needs to be like quadruple wrapped in plastic still Yeah, yeah Like I had a I had a bento and it came in a plastic box and in the plastic wrapper came tropsticks in plastic And so I'm like get my bento open the plastic all right get this plastic And then get the tropsticks out of that plastic and then in the osu body is another plastic thing Yeah, but at the end of this like standard lunch box. I had a masked a massive pile of garbage. Yeah Like a standard little lunch box. Yeah, I was like what the That's what ever happened. Oh fucking zip lock You're fucking classic the little pop on off and get a spoon. Yeah, look what the hell But you know, it's it is that's like such a minor complaint and really has no impact. But yeah, yeah, definitely Yeah, it's like it's it'll be like when you you know when you share drink with someone you're like you won't try my beer And I'd be like I don't know where I touch this side of it about Or when we you know you grab food out of the center. Yeah, and sometimes in Japan they they give you Dutensil specifically for yeah, and I'll just be like I'll let you know. I don't give a fuck you can use your I you know, yeah, I don't Whatever man we can make out it'd be fine But that's where that's more familiar with each other when you like with a new party. You're like oh, yeah, you can't do Yeah, yeah, yeah, but to be fair that that whole thing is is more of a cultural norm It's just a before cover, but yeah, it was definitely amplified further. Yeah, yeah, that was maybe a bad example to be fair But yeah, I got what you mean, though. Yeah, yeah, if it feels like there is a lot more I'm like damn Where's our moon landing We get no fucking moon. We're getting a shutdown man. We go we go we get we get lockdown and the They get a they get a fucking moon landing and all this shit could have found you know, you know, it's weird Just Like I don't know if we mentioned this before, but it's just like We had news not even recently but like a while ago where we could have found aliens On Mars probably yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I think I should have been bigger news or is it because it wasn't like 100% confirmed confirmed Oh, it's because it wasn't like fucking it was great alien shit Confirm this life. It's just it's just not the life that we really give a fuck about If it was fucking alien colony doing alien shit, we'd be like whoa There's a lot of men a couple of people who again went through the cover thing looked at that and we're like oh great now We got Mars cover like that's a worry about Microbes. It's like that's you know, they're 2000 sorry, they're like 20 million years behind us on evolution. It's like not really You know, it's whatever I don't think it's gonna make wave Like science, but I think it's fucking It is massive, but to the everyday person who you know, we're in a political system Whereas well, we can't even fucking think more than four years ahead or five years ahead, you know like is You can't ask people to fucking care about so yeah, I'm 50 years I'm just like because because it makes me wonder what what is there an event that we would actually care about because I'm just like if there was a If we go to a point where asteroid hits earth we have like a month or something would we care about that or would the average people You know, what let me tell you what would happen. Yeah, they would try and find out immediately. Where is it hitting? And what cuz you will know where it's gonna hit no no no no no no no let me tell you what that happened Okay, because here's what I'm fucking convinced about Where you know, you can have the most earth shattering news of all time and people will People will still care that it's a Tuesday and they need to go to work You know The pro if there was a asteroid that was 100% coming towards earth People would look for I mean, there would be new sources being like now might not be well I said big news They were talking about getting close but sometimes even like big ones that are project to hit and do some big damage Just having to burn up. Yeah, so no one really cares. We don't even hear about it But did you like sometimes you see like a new story? Yeah, yeah, something like you hear a new story and you're like Yeah, this this asteroid that could have you know Wiped out all life enough just narrowly missed and you hear that like two weeks off the back If if we can't do anything about it. Yeah, is it really worth bringing up Ha ha ha ha Like is it worth mass stressing like eight billion people Because something might happen. Yeah, we literally can't stop or do anything about. Yeah, like if it was an asteroid that would destroyer Yeah, and entirely like wipe out like what should I really Okay, okay, what I don't really want to know I don't want to know what is your apocalypse indicator In personal life not in personal life. What what is your what is your what is your indicator where you're like Hypothetically, you're like shit. This is a serious thing. Okay, is in the UK. It was pubs closing down That was the apocalypse indicator. COVID was pretty apocalyptic at times But like to mention the asteroid right when you ask the question. I was like, okay, what about scenario where all right You're in you're in Japan right now. Yeah, and the asteroid is confirmed to hit. I don't know. Let's say Chile Chile is about to be hit Okay, buy a story 100% sure 100% will wipe out Chile. Okay, but not the earth, but not the earth just All right, the blaster is very good Do you think the news in the country you get you live with like I would be a big deal Yeah, but do you think they'd be like doomerang freaking out about it? I think there's the fuck the fucked up parties And I think we'd be like it's really bad for Chile Anyway, so we got Like I think it's we we're so we only care as like a a either global level of country level We don't care if something happens to like another country that we don't live in like that's the saturated I we don't yeah, it's only serious if it's happening to you because COVID kind of that was kind of what was how do we go It would happen. They were like It's not some of the China server only Yeah, and then it became global like whoa Chill chill yeah, I know more flights from China. Yeah, it's like you know, it was People didn't give a fuck. They were kind of like murmuring about it and they were like oh could be bad Yeah, my doomsday indicator will be and and I know this will be bad because this didn't even happen during COVID Yeah, is if I walk outside and all the communities are closed all pro that that is like that is like that That didn't even happen during cover even during cover there were like now we keep in this bitch over But if it's closed, I'm like okay something's up. What's going on here? Oh, that's Because like in Japan, they're pretty much on top of this where sometimes I walk in and it's just like oh typhoon schedule for like Like next week and go into the supermarkets and like all the water bosses are already going. Yeah, so even then I'm like You know if the commune is closed down probably all the stuff is already taken out anyway if it's closed or empty That's how I like oh shit. Can we do something that might age well or horribly? Can we just predict what might be the next big disaster? Like we'll just take a turn picking something the next big does like it's gonna be like another virus Or do you think it's gonna be an earthquake or these gonna be I'm gonna say I'm gonna go for a fun one. Yeah, I think it's gonna be a famine A famine I think we're gonna get a famine Like a like a global famine or I think that country famine global famine or course fucking chaos. Oh, yeah Uh Look at everyone we had like an ounce of concern that maybe there might not be enough toilet roll Imagine if there is like a murmuring that might not be enough food Well, I mean there was was like the potato shortage in Shiloh that right that happened in Japan last year You remember that shit again? That's like a food why I was like if it's food wide. Oh like all the food We suddenly are low on a lot of food right because I think it doesn't need doesn't need to like move much for it to become a problem Yeah, like if everything becomes a shortage I feel like we'll freak out real quick and it'll just become a mess realistically. I think it's gonna be like a mega quick Fish pan now that be Japan's big no, but like a mega quake that creates like a chain reaction. Oh shit like a like a continental shift scientifically proven I don't know Make it Mega quake sounds like Like Jason Statham has to stop in the fourth movie. This is a Roland Emmerich movie Yeah Yeah, yeah, the mega quake is coming. We gotta build it out. Yeah Oh me fucking ice age in it. Oh, I say yeah I realized for as shittiest Japanese summer is being called sucks more Like as a threat to life. Oh, yeah, yeah human socket dealing with the cold I mean, we're pretty alright with dealing with nature sucks at dealing with the cause That's true. Do you know what you know the scariest one? Like a solar flare or something? Oh, yeah, you could just be like chilling and then one day the song's just and it's like oh Oh, I'll fucking yeah, then it's gonna be half hour of the sphere is going Right, yeah, that's true. Yeah, that's scary because that literally could happen tomorrow But every year it doesn't happen. You're closer to not having to live through it You know Because your age and eventually like I imagine if I get to like 70 and there's a colossal world disaster on my Been a good run boys. Yeah, did you know? You know, I mean I least it didn't happen when I was seven You know, I mean you're like yeah, I don't have anything look forward to anymore really Yeah, you know more with you know more realize more I get older Bro dinosaurs of kind of fucking goaded man. Okay, well, okay Explain your thought process on that we have been around for two million years I believe how long has humanity been around for like two million years like a homo sapien Yeah, and we've almost found we've almost ended the world or found ourselves like why why each other out Fucking countless times Dinosaurs how many how many fucking millions of years have they did they rule the world? Just too big bro. I just well. I remember I think it was like I don't remember the exact numbers But it was like something crazy like we are just as far away from tyrannosaurus Rex as stegosaurus was the tyrannosaurus Crazy to think hi, hi, hi, hi, can you can you Google like people think that the people think how long the dinosaurs were around people think Those two creatures were around during the same time when it's just not even close 250 two million years 256 million years ago. So what's that about 200 million years? Bro, that's bro. We have reached So Bro, that they just fucking low-difters and then And then you hear a story about you hear a story about how that one Russian like submarine Operator almost like almost started nuclear war with with America because of a Because of a like a faulty sensor or something. Yeah, we're fucked. We can't even live through the AI age Oh, it's crazy 150 million years. It's a good run It's a great run. That's a solid run That's so cool. Danises are cool. It's like a quarter of the time the Earth's been literally a generational run And we're like oh, it's so much better than dinosaurs look at them good and good and good Like you need little brains going around getting wiped up on a little rock Damn, we're so dumb We think we're the smartest We are the dumbest fucking creatures. I don't think we're lasting. How many more years do you think humanity will last? Let's let's take a guess right now In the in the free chance that this trash day's episode will last until the end of humanity Let's make it. Let's make a prediction. Do you think do you think humanity's gonna get back to the space age and get to the one where we're colonizing other planets look again All right waiting on the launch If you can pull that off or whoever can pull that off then yeah, I think All right, what do you think is more likely humanity expands out or they shrink in and you know Find a way to upload their consciousness into a virtual world. Oh definitely the latter Definitely the latter. I mean, it's already it's halfway fucking there already at this point With how many people are relying on the internet? I mean, fuck look at us Like with We've left more memories of us on the internet than we could probably ever do in our entire lifetime I mean multiple lifetimes right like it's not it's not gonna happen We're gonna wipe ourselves out before we go to another planet I'm certain of it And that's like it might seem a little nihilistic, but like I'm with how things are going right now It's it's hard to be optimistic. I mean, it's our lives are our footnotes in just the entire history of the earth Oh, it's like a bleak yeah, and Bro in just our in just our lifetime. It's terrifying how many different ways we could have wiped ourselves out Yeah, you know exactly and and we're like we're like a we're like a fucking nanometer in our in The history footnotes of all of humanity. What do you think some more likely humanity is going to expand out and colonize other planets or I were going to shrink in and Find a way to make a virtual world and upload our consciousness there and just lose all sense of exploration Uh Virtual world more likely to be honest The amount of cooperation required to yeah like planetary expansion. Yeah, like a shocking amount. God It's we need more of a reason to get resources from out than in and right now we don't have that So until there's something we really need from another place. We won't do that You know, yeah Because we you know, we still have access to Like all the elements Need anything right now. I mean Well, you know, if you want to make a Dyson sphere Yeah, perhaps that's something we can try and figure out at some point but You know, we should build solar panels right now just get all the energy we need for the global scale Yeah, we're just really bad at get doing anything as like I was like a you know, these countries have different Motivations. Yeah, trying to beat everyone in the air else, you know Yeah Virtual world we don't cooperate man. We don't we don't dance was they cooperate 150 million years 150 million years you know, you don't get that way without working together Don't get that man. They can survive a nice age. They've survived many ice-a-z There's no other like group of species that has parts of it where they want to like destroy it all Right, I don't think there's any chimpanzees that want to destroy all of chimpanzee Life And so I how weird away. Yeah, yeah, it's just it's that whole concept of like you're not me. Fuck you. Yeah You know Cool Yeah, they are Oh, no, rank of tanks. All right, thanks. So fun to watch in videos I love the videos where chimps are just like a little too human. I love it man I love it. I see that clip of the guy where like the guy like some like in a chimpanzee enclosure He's somehow in between the crack of the two glass things that separate the chimpanzees They're from like the zoo a guy like slips in like a lit cigarette Have you seen this clip? No, I just cut it. Yeah, it's it's this clip where he like slips in a lit cigarette and this chimpanzee grabs it Start smoking it and then after he takes a drag he looks down at it and he nods in a really human way is like hmm Yeah, all right north Koreans Oh I don't think it's this one, but this is also amazing North Koreans What a headline a poor fucking monkey It's bad enough being in a North Korean zoo. You got a fucking smoke a pack of malbars Fuck me can't get a break man. What's going on? I'm looking at that. I'm like wow you guys are way too close to us dude. I Couldn't imagine when they were picking out, you know, and some weird contrived way picking the animals There's a video on on screen right now playing of a monkey literally perfectly lighting up a pack of cigarettes The fuck out of this thing. I pull Yeah, I feel so bad for my dude breathe some oxygen fuck man. Oh, it's so sad Hey, man, that's to an alien species. That's basically us Yeah, yeah Which is the bunch of monkey smoking cigarettes With very very big sticks with very very big sticks Wow, what an uplifting episode of trash tastes. Ah, this is uplifting look. It's just a reflection of the comb time I mean realistic here. Oh, it's just just just apocalyptic stuff Well, there's just shit we go through every day. She's that guarantee is going to have to Face eventually because we don't control the earth yet What what do you mean the government controls the weather right? We keep control the earth. I was three What mandatory food tier list everyone submit it What do you think what do you think is the coolest apocalypse like Define coolest. I don't know like in terms like the vibe Just like okay, okay in the sense of like if you live through it then people will look back and being like whoa I can't get apocalypse that you live through super volcano just sounds cool to me. I don't know why We kind of had that there in our lifetime. Would you we never had a super volcano? We kind of did What do you mean we kind of did that volcano that erupted in like fucking an Iceland? Yeah, the one that like blocked us Super volcano. I felt like a super fucking volcano What is a super volcano? What could get a definition? What is it? Can we use what the fuck is a super volcano? It's a volcano that's And unusually large volcano having the potential to produce There's yellow stone I know I'm not done that drop down. How many super volcanoes are there in the world? 20 20 super volcanoes Well, the exact number isn't certain here's well because there's like a fuckload of super volcano supposedly underwater as well Like yeah, sure we have some eruptions. We've definitely lived through. Oh, yeah, we we have had eruptions. We've lived through I mean volcanoes erupting Ants. I mean sucker a gym of fucking erupts once every two weeks. Yeah, but super volcano though That's I don't think it'd be as cool as you take it's not it's probably not I don't think I look the day That not if but when mouth who's your opposite. Yeah, it's not gonna be a cool day But global pandemic wasn't as cool as they said in the as it wasn't the movies either, you know, it was a lot more dreary I don't know me. COVID was a lot more dreary than what the movies made out to be you know The what movies have made it look cool Just like a zombie apocalypse. Yeah, yeah, like zombie apocalypse or like outbreak or shit like that Yeah, but that's because the fucking media always like makes it like protagonist syndrome And everyone's like you I could live through that if you get bitten zombie apocalypse you hiding it Uh, you tell me your your squad or you hiding it I don't know depends on who my squad is If I hate my squad then I'll hide it. It's us three us three. Yeah, you tell me you got bit by zombie. You can be real me. Yeah, you're worthy Would you hide it? Yeah, why I want to die Say hello. I'm doing you the service if you're gonna be taken out by someone I want it to be my friend who got bitten by zombie. I'll give you the dignity to be killed by your own friend Rather than some random I'll be the guy that ruins the squad by like turning Oh, I can find it. I'm okay If you if you were bitten by zombie and you decided to make the uh Make the honorable choice of often yourself, you know, yeah, how would you do it? Yeah, how would you do it? David go one of these questions Definitely what's the coolest way because like I like in America they go the easier they go guns and I'm like shit What if I do like a Loonie tunes mouse trap kind of like a series of things that goes off to eventually just drop an anvil on me Yeah, we spent the whole day making it and it's good a fucking kill us We got a little dominoes out and we get the we tie the anvil on when it's finally done Like boys gather around this is gonna be sick. It's like dominoes into a shoot like a plant pot slide And then it like somehow at the end it drops into a candle on a thing that flips it to the rope And it burns the rope and then it drops the end the lot us and we fucking get crushed to death like pancakes damn That'd be pretty tight actually At least it would be fun. It would be fun. It would be nobody's nobody's tried that Despite rune oh my gosh. No, he should have fun with it I feel like that's what's missing in zombie movies, you know, not very realistic enough Yeah, that'd be pretty cool. Yeah, what's because you change so fast, you know You know you don't really get bitten and it's like right away Well, depends on the zombie movie right true. They're the rules change. Yeah, yeah, I watched um dead rising It was like fucking what seven days right before we get turned I think it's more interesting that it's a slow turn Yeah, I think so I think it adds a lot more, you know instead of the when you see your friend get bitten the yoke And they make eye contact Oh Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's more interesting. I'll fish more more time for things. Yeah, and that moment of like maybe I won't Yeah, always They always do it. They always do it. I got a couple more days left and it's like five minutes later Yeah, yeah, yeah, because that I feel like it's more emotional when you have time to like say goodbye Yeah, and you just have to like live with it for like a week or something you like Shit, man. What are we doing in this week? Yeah, but is it cool? available any of uh, Vince Gilligan's to show Who is that? Oh, is that the bad guy? Yeah, yes, I heard about that. I think if you like this topic you will love the show. What is it? Um, I guess the the premise is fine to kind of explain. Okay, uh, basically It's like a uh, another take on an alien invasion if you will like it's uh, I don't want to get into the six But uh, it's a very interesting cool apocalypse. It's a very interesting approach to an alien invasion I'm very very different. I'd say I really like first episode is amazing. Hi, how's it different? It's it's it's it's not what like you expect Uh, and the first episode very much like kind of reveals all of this Um, Clarubus Yeah, if you want me to really get into it Uh, the the if you boys don't mind or if you were gonna watch it I recommend just watching it But if you want me to tell you kind of the twist of the first episode. I don't want to watch I don't want to know the twist then I think you should watch it. I think you'll love it Uh, the world is overtaken by a mysterious wave of force to happen. Okay. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, cool So watch it very good. All right, what do you remember? It's signs I never watch I never watch you never watch you I know I have this weird memory of you bringing this up on the pod. Have I? I think I know you think about this movie. I mean, you know, I do think about it every time aliens comes up I just think signs and I still want Jeremy to play summer So you can talk about summer. Oh, that's true. Yeah, I have a lot of things to play and watch I did read the article on the Goon Squad though. You read this. I read it What do you think it's fucking sad? Yes, it's really fucking sad Were you compelled and you started reading? I was very compelled. Yeah, just because like again like like the Like the author of the article. I just had I didn't know I did the extent. Yeah, like how far this whole Gooning thing went This is a uh picking off on a topic that we talked about in other episodes Not a while ago where I mentioned this article called the Goon Squad and it's a horrific kind of look into male loneliness It's really like apocalyptic. It's kind of scary. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's it's I mean, obviously it's about Gooning But it's how the use of um, I mean, I think to a to a certain extent Maybe one of the this the the realist I'm like most uh The word upcoming if you will all like the Emboating and bumbling boating for boating uh Problems I think we have right now is just like dopamine addiction. Yeah, like what that does when you are Constantly just getting dopamine. Like are you addicted to dopamine? I like going outside and doing things. I don't think so I think I definitely like I am now I feel like I'm very aware what I'm doing. Yeah, like I know when I wake up in the morning I know I'm like I want to look at my phone for 15 minutes before I get out of bed like I just do that And I know that it's literally to know the purpose then for dopamine Yeah, I'm a second age and yeah, yeah, and I'm like and I'm I feel like again like with anything the first step is to like Be aware when you are doing something and what that means then yeah slowly being able to cut back a bit more I'm trying to yeah see I have this problem where I'm like Not sure if stimming or dopamine addicted in certain activities. Yeah, right. I'm like shit You know because I've obviously you know, I need stimulation my entire life But now there's this extra layer where I'm like, huh? I don't know if this is a me thing or if this is a me problem Yeah, but the article is really fascinating because it looks into Kind of follows a bunch of people who Most certainly suffer from dopamine addiction. Yeah loneliness. Yeah, it's dopamine It's dopamine addiction and what I got from is that like it's just this desperation for camaraderie Yeah, man guys want to be a part of something Yeah, it's just people want to like humans are such social creatures and now people will literally kill like you know Mentally kill themselves over it. Yeah, just to feel that little sense of it. I'm just like that terrifying We're hardwired to need friends and to have social groups and that's like that There's won't change yeah, be put someone who's more introverted and be able to like get away from that Yeah, so need it still need to have some social parts of your life. Yeah, yeah It's really important to make sure you you give yourself that and to try that and uh I think it's been harder and harder online to make friends as well Uh, you know people turn to really weird parts of the internet And perhaps there's some aspect of it where because it's porn because it's shameful that Like shame bonding or you can because you're all doing something shameful You can kind of feel like you're really friends and you'll really have a deep bond. Yeah, um, that's weird. It's scary That's the next apocalypse Good apocalypse. That's the next one The gunapot inside That's where your your your your whole ego is a being you like subject yourself to Just pure dopamine from just watch from watching to his porn. Yeah, just can offer is ridiculous Yeah, it's really good article and word of the day What are the data inside? What are the day? That's how I'm going out and that's all the apocalypse Good aside I mean, that's what you're doing in a zombie apocalypse. I'm sure yeah, and you know, and I think I think the reason why we We're talking about you know in a very sad way that we're talking about like apocalypse is because like Man wouldn't it be exciting if the cause of our demise was just something external and we had nothing to do with it But in reality, I think the downfall is going to be something that we've slowly done to ourselves. Oh, yeah Almost very caliselessly kind of just suffering Yeah from the own devices that we've brought into this world And that's the truth and that's why I think we almost look fondly at apocalypse is like oh wouldn't it be nice There's a super volcano and we all had to get off our phones and work together and do something, you know It's like a very strange form of escapism Yeah, yeah, like I do really think that like that like that conversation is fun to talk about because it's like it is a almost like a wonderful Yeah, yeah, it's really we're fucked. We're so fucked It's all over. Yeah, it's joeva It's joeva But it's not joeva it's it's not we can save it we can we can save we can take a lot of work and we really need to start turning around right now Yeah, right We're gonna turn around right we're gonna turn around guys. We're gonna do things for good now right guys We're gonna we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna recall it's gonna cost correct right right You know what else is joeva though today's episode but thankfully There's always next week and also it's not joeva if you guys follow us On the patron because right after this episode you guys can go and watch weekly monthly exclusive patreon content We have a brand new one that you guys can go check out right after this But hey if you want to check that out and support the show in the process and hold it over to patreon.com slash trash Tastes also false on Twitter send us a memes on the subreddit a疑ad our face listen to us on Spotify And we'll see you guys next week. Bye