TOYS TODAY JUST AREN'T THE SAME

Welcome to the Carpool Podcast with Kelly. And for fun, growing up, we used to walk to the hospital. The gift shop. To go to the gift shop to buy candy or sodas or something. And Liz. It is crazy how this is the most joyful time of my life and also just the absolute hardest. Your mom time off starts now. Welcome back to the Carpool Podcast with Kelly and Liz. And my kids are back in school. The sun is shining. My coffee is iced. The tank is clean. And it's Friday. It is. We made it what feels just like the longest week of my entire life. Well, I'm just waiting to get the flu. like that just sounds like something that would happen to me you know I like hate to say this but like I do feel like maybe you've made it out of the woods like is the flu still going around like no one's talking about it anymore we have not been sick yet this year and I know knock on wood knock on wood whatever whatever but in a way like there that's something to celebrate because it's like what else is there to do now except for get sick I got all my holidays out I swear that like every other year I get sick. So like we got we got hit with the flu this year. Next year, I think we'll be fine. Last year you got hit with the flu. I was fine. I think next year you're going to get the flu. Sure, sure, sure, sure, sure, sure. I think you've made it out of the woods. Well, who knows? But I'm just grateful to have made it this far, if nothing else. And we had a great day yesterday. It was like finally above freezing, like 34, but sunny. And for as much as I don't understand our conversation from last week of like the wind chill, I do understand how things feel warmer in the sun. Oh, for sure. Like 34 cloudy, disgusting. 34 sunny. I'm there. Feels like 40. Feels like 45. Hmm. There's something there. I can't explain it, but I do not understand this. What is temperature? I needed to go back to school some days. I feel it's just it's just a way of measuring things. But anyway, so yesterday we went to the farm and because the kids were off school and we went like Kubota sledding or side by side sledding, which is where you basically take a sled and put on the back of a side by side like a UTV and drive around the field very slowly. so fun yeah very silly but it's so fun my kids love it and I am such a kid at heart like I Tyler was driving and I was I'm sat on the back like I want to know like I I want to be on the sled with the kids and it was so funny I would start to get you know a little confident which I don't know why I'm so confident because I'm like so langly like I have so much what's the word gangly I shouldn't have the confidence that I do on this sled that's moving behind us George me and George you know it's me and George so you know we're we're doing some tricks you know we're throwing snowballs and I go to stand up oh no Kelly fly off the back yeah of course you just fly off the back of course you fly off the back but it was why do i feel like wait what why do i feel like you could stand up like if you went tubing like on water behind a boat why do i feel like you have a better chance of standing up there than you do like on the back of a sled on in the snow yeah i don't know i think because like maybe yeah i have no idea i have no idea but it did i could have told you there was no shot you were going to be able to stand yeah we did get it on film so maybe maybe if you're blessed enough I will share it to the carpool Instagram it's not that dramatic of a fall but when I was looking up for the kids what we were going to do today first of all one of my favorite new features maybe it's not a new feature but the here's where I love AI coming into my life you can go to your photos on your iPhone and you can just type in a keyword and then you can find the photos like no that is so helpful because I'm like I know I have photos and videos of us Kubota sledding in the past. So I typed in sledding. There it was. So anyway, I saw I found a photo of us Kubota sledding from 2022. I think it's you in the video. It could be mom. Do you have a memory of this? And I eat it. Like, no, this happened. This is what happened. I remember this. You and I were on the back and dad was wanted to throw us off. So we weren't flying off, but he was like whipping us like it was uh borderline dangerous um and we were like the only way he's gonna stop is if one of us flies off and you you sacrificed yourself for the greater good of he's going to sacrifice literally so i said i did not say no you can't i said get off the sled because i don't want to roll around in the snow that sounds like something i would do that sounds like something i would do um so anyway we had just a blast yesterday and it was it's it's a very dry snow that we're having so you can't really like roll snowmen but you can pack it so we started making an igloo me and the kids i've never made an igloo i should i should take a step back we like framed out how big our igloo would be and then we got over it yeah no for sure igloos sound way too long to make um I like do not understand igloos although I do like the people who make the colored ice cubes and stack them but again it just sounds like a lot of work my kids have a current obsession with camping which I don't know how to get them off this obsession but we love watching the outdoor Boys on YouTube. Do you watch the Outdoor Boys? I've watched them one time. No. Talk about a comfort creator. Like if you think you wouldn't care about a man taking his three small children hunting or camping in Alaska, you're wrong. Because like he is my ultimate comfort creator. All of the kids, Fred, George, Hattie, we are all obsessed with watching Outdoor Boys. We watch it almost every night before bed. And honestly, the patient that that man excused, because like he is filming camping and his children in these videos they're they're i think these videos are older because i think his kids are older now the kids are young it's such i've it is such like something that only a father could do totally because there's a level of like we were watching one where they were at this like bot in this like bayou like in louisiana or something and they're like living on a houseboat with a family who rents out the houseboat and he literally like left his three boys like with the mom who owns the houseboat and their daughter and like he went off you know doing something with the other guy and Maddie and I are like you just left your three kids there like that's crazy um something I could never do something that really I think like the chillness of a dad could only handle Tyler could do it like Tyler loves to take our kids to the farm and like do outdoorsy things with them and he does have that level I wouldn't even describe him as like that patient of a person but like he it because not even patience it's just like capacity to do that it's like I almost think it's like you're lacking something that allows you to do it yeah sure like maybe i'm too high strung maybe i'm my mind's always going to like different things like you have to you have to lack maybe a maternal instinct to be able to do that yeah but anyway so the kids are obsessed with camping so the other day we like got this new like secret clubhouse basically again this is so my husband he needs to start a youtube channel to be honest with you. He bought an old water tank. Like, not like a water trough, like a water tank. Okay? And it was broken. He bought it off Facebook Marketplace. Because once Tyler discovered, like, things were listed for free on Marketplace, his world has changed in, like, a major way. Because, like, the saying, one man's trash is another man's treasure has never been more true than it is for my husband. He loves, and the thing about Tyler, Tyler has the skills to go get anything. Like you would not believe the strength of my husband. He's like a superhero because like there is he is so much stronger than he looks. No, Tyler's Tyler is a freak. I do not know how he moves the things that he moves. He helped install some of the appliances at my house. and I came home one day and he was literally by himself moving a full-size refrigerator up steps into my house. There's like three steps you have to take to get into my house and he moved it by himself. No, he, it's like, I'm serious. It's like my favorite thing about him. It's freaky. He can do anything. So all to say, he's been finding a lot of good things. So he found this water tank and he's like I'm gonna make this into a clubhouse for the kids and so we like put it in our it's huge like all five or five of them all uh please no pregnancy please all like three of my kids I said five because we've had friends over can like fit in this thing and George and Heidi were like we want to camp in it and I'm very much of I kind of took that as an opportunity to not say no, because I'm like, there's no way they're going to camp in it. So I'm like, okay, if you guys want to spend the night there tonight, you can do that. Like, that's fine. They are lathered up about it. This was a couple of weeks ago. It wasn't, it was like 40 degrees outside. So it wasn't like, there wasn't snow on the ground. The whole day, they're prepping, they're packing their bags. They're like getting so ready for it. I keep waiting for them to change their mind. It gets dark. They're like, we're ready to go. And I'm like, are they seriously going to walk down to these woods and get in this like thing right now by themselves. But I was still just gonna be like, okay, whatever. Cause it's also like 5 PM. Like it's not even late. Yeah. They get their flashlights. They pack their bags. George goes, will you come get us in the morning? And can you make cinnamon rolls? And I'm like, sure. You got it, George. They go down there. They had their, they had their little, like they had, they had their iPads. They were going to watch a movie. They had snacks, blankets, the works. They go down there and like 15 minutes go by. It's dark outside and they are in the woods by themselves I'm starting to be like okay this is kind of crazy like they have they have made it too long too long so I go down there and check on them I'm like hey guys how are you doing like we're good yep we're having fun everything's good I'm like you're not scared like at this point I'm like okay let's like I would actually like to wrap this up but nope we're good so I walk back up and I'm literally like now I'm like okay I don't like this I'm literally watching I can see them from the house I'm watching their flashlights like move in the woods from where they are and then finally I see some kids start packing up walking it up the hill after like 22 minutes so 22 minutes um you know the fun part of all of that is the preparation 100 do you remember we used to play um we had our neighbors growing up there was two girls or three girls one was Kelly's age one was my age um the other one was younger than us and we would play this game called survivor and it was a competition and kelly and andrea was her name they were on a team and me and morgan were on a team and we would like pick a shelter a shelter outside of like our homes um we would pack up like our portable dvd players our blankets snack all all the works just to see who could stay outside the longest yeah i mean the actual like sitting there waiting literally never lasted longer than probably 22 minutes but it was the prep you and andrea were like okay we need to make sure we have um we order a pizza before we go outside because like we didn't have phones then yeah we waited for a pizza to be delivered like it was just so much fun like thinking about how we were going to stay outside by the time we were actually outside it was like okay this is for the birds um but something just goes to show your kids are never gonna last but just like make them think that like it's a great activity it's such a good activity something so crazy about our childhood it's like we did not grow up in like a walkable area you know we like it was like peak suburbs but we did live very close to a hospital uh-huh and for fun growing up we used to walk to the hospital the gift shop to go to the gift shop to buy candy or sodas or something and then sometimes like we were probably 12 we would go to the fourth floor because that's where the babies were and they would just let us walk in there and look at the babies do you remember that yeah and also i would like crazy one time we like ate there at the like cafeteria yeah we'd go to like that's where we would walk like we would walk to the hospital you know most people like that's actually pretty good like that's actually kind of a lot like most people can't walk anywhere no yeah if we lived anywhere if we lived anywhere further from that hospital we would not have walked there like we're literally right next door to it if we were even a subdivision over we wouldn't have done it yeah that's like so fun for us it's so fun for us yeah my kids can't walk anywhere they can walk to the woods well that's why they have the woods they have their clubhouse so true that's so anyway don't know how we got here how did we get here how do we get out i don't know i'm watching 22 minutes has it no i'm watching a new show um okay actually let me back up you know how it took me like a year and a half to watch desperate housewives yeah it's because like i didn't know how to put my toddler down for sleep and it was a fight every single night since i have hacked his sleeping with the help of my sleep trainer molly tartalajia can never say her last name i'm sorry but i get asked for it all the time um i now can watch a show every night before bed and it is my safe haven and i'm so happy you have that back elizabeth you need that i need it so badly i've got a face mask on i've got my show on so the show i'm watching right now is landman have you watched it no but mom's been very excited about this show it is excellent okay it is so good um I'm like so I'm just like so into it like I'm always thinking about the characters the characters are so good there's it kind of like Yellowstone like is it like a tv drama um yeah like a little bit I actually fun fact about me I've never sat through um Yellowstone because when I started watching it back in 2020 I started watching it with Maddie but it was so graphic that I would close my I would have to close my eyes and then he would tell me like what I missed and when he then was deployed I could no longer watch it because I didn't have someone to tell me what I was missing so I've actually um I've only watched like the first couple episodes of Yellowstone so it's not I mean so far I'm like almost all the way through the first season it's not there's not graphic like it's not scary it's just like it's kind of funny it's cute it's lovely like it's texas i just i'm like so into it and i'm so excited about it and i think you should watch it i will watch it i have said in the past like my problem with these shows is i just find them to be so unnecessarily graphic like and i know this before but it's almost like they're too lazy to actually come up with a good plot so they're just like what's the most shocking gruesome thing we can put on my screen in effort to like get a buzz going like I'm telling you like yeah no it's like 1923 that land that yellowstone spin off all it was it was like a freaking bingo card of what tragedy it was so unrealistic because no one has that many horrible things happen to them yeah no it's like whereas like 1923 it's like someone gets beat up or abused like you're watching the entire thing happen it's like in land man like oh someone gets beat up in his trailer but like they just like allude to him getting beat up like you know he's getting beat up but you're not seeing it that's how you can handle it it's like we need to really check ourselves on the like it's too much things are too violent now and just because like we're quote-unquote old enough to watch them doesn't mean we should be i'm sorry no we're just like you should not be watching that we're so desensitized like we're not shocked by anything anymore and that's like i know it's not good uh it's let me be clear i'm still shocked because i protect my eyes let me be very clear yeah okay well that's good to know i will give that a consideration what am i watching right now oh guess what i mean so last night so after we had a fun day at the farm hattie fell asleep so she got to stay up later than everybody else because she took like a 5 p.m nap but i was kind of okay with it because i love staying up late with one-on-one with my kids sometimes because then i watched them we like watched things that were very specific to that child and Hattie, I've talked about this a lot, but like she is very, she not into a lot of pretend play She not like a big even like cartoon girl She likes to just she I guess you could say she kind of mature Anyway I turned the parent trap on Oh, wow. Excellent movie. That's fun to see like those movies for the first time with your child. And I like didn't. Through their eyes. No, like I didn't explain to her what it was about. And I, I was like, I wonder how long it doesn't take her to notice that like the girls are twins like it's the same girl how long will it take her and like she discovered it as they discovered it and she's like like to see on her face like they're sisters plot twist of the century yeah it was a little it the movie itself kind of had some more mature themes that were a little difficult to explain to a five-year-old because then she was like well why don't her parents live together and then I kind of I'm happy to have I'd rather I'd rather me and her have those conversations than someone else like I was happy to have those conversations but then it goes so the dad just never saw that girl and I'm like no that is like a no it's it is really screwed up like to separate twins like oh we're just what happened they broke up and so they just each took a daughter like it's actually super screwed up no that isn't like that's insane no it's insane i feel like they could have wrote that differently how like i'm just wondering like maybe the how do you separate twins at birth yeah i'm not sure it just feels like the fact that the parents each plucked one and then just like decided to never see the other child again like it was just you were never thought about what yeah it's wait this is so screwed up i know and i just like it was very hard to explain to hattie did you watch the entire movie no we're halfway we just got to the part where they just switched spots okay because i was gonna say i i haven't watched the movie in years but i do hear people like wait Meredith for or justice for Meredith Blake because like I'm kind of on her side now and I got to the Meredith Blake scene and I 100% agree like she was so nice to Hallie so nice but like you know they're just trying to get their parents together and I'm just like the dad like hadn't dated anyone like for so long like for 11 years and like he finally has Meredith Blake who is lovely and beautiful and then yeah like it is totally justice for meredith blake um yeah and you're just like one thing why did they break up in the first place like i don't do we ever hear do we ever hear that i don't remember but i will let you know but again i don't even know if they end up together i guess they do but again it's just like why were these twins separated at birth you know to their parents like to the parents no it's crazy no it's absolutely crazy um and that just like goes to show that like when you are a child, like you really don't need a full, I've been feeling this way lately. Like you do not need a full explanation that makes perfect sense. And I say that because since I've started putting James to sleep differently, we have this chart and it's like, has pictures on it. It's like, this is what we do after, after we put on pajamas, then we brush our teeth. And after we brush our teeth, three books. And he's like, no read books. I'm like, dude, my hands are tied. it's a chart the chart says we have to read a book after we brush our teeth so i don't know what i don't know what you want me to do about it and like to me i'm like well obviously i could change it up like we don't technically have to do it that way but just saying that's just the way it is make the chart the bad guy like they just don't need full context in the way that we do like it makes sense to them that i will let you know i think a two-year-old does not i do fear hattie is asking for full context at this point. No, I'm just thinking like maybe Hattie, but we didn't ask for full context when we watched The Parent Trap. Yeah, I don't know. Maybe Hattie's just more in tune. I don't think any of us were asking for full context. I think now we're all asking in full context. I don't know. It's just interesting. It is interesting. Send me your vintage movies because I'm just kind of enjoying it. Today's episode is brought to you by Nuuly. You know that feeling when you're invited to a wedding a birthday party, a work thing all in the same month, and suddenly you realize you have nothing to wear. Now, add being pregnant to that. None of my regular clothes fit the same. I don't want to spend a fortune on maternity pieces I'll only wear for a few months, and I still want to feel cute. That's where Nuuly comes in. Nuuly is a subscription clothing rental service that lets you pick any six styles every month for just $98. 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And that was, I bought some new Lululemon Align leggings and I find it so hard to buy new Lululemon Align leggings. But at the end of the day, I have a drawer full of leggings. And if my Lululemon Align leggings are dirty I might as well not have any totally I have worn the same four pair of leggings throughout my last two pregnancies it's the only thing that's comfortable on me right now and in between pregnancies and I'm like babe I think you've proven your price per wear and you can just go and buy some new ones so i placed an order for two new lulam and align leggings just black and i did one black and i did one brown because i've been wearing a lot of brown okay um and i also ordered a pair of like pants because i also do feel like I need to find pants that I can wear that aren't leggings um Lululemon Align leggings high-rise or super high-rise are the best leggings on the planet you will never catch me trying to shove a fake Amazon dupe down your throats it does not exist been there like there are other Amazon leggings and they're fine and I used to wear them but like to grow and come back and be comfortable throughout my pregnancy stretch out they don't stretch out how is it that i've literally worn them with a bump and then also just wore them postpartum and wore them like i've worn them it's a they're they're incredible they are literally the sisterhood of the traveling leggings because like they have fit me throughout i have been five different sizes in the last three years and they have they have been with me through it all yeah and the other thing is like the amazon dupes they don't come in tall sizes and so then they're not long enough and like you're not gonna you're not gonna catch me with an exposed ankle in the winter you know they're the best leggings in the planet it's specifically the lululemon aligns ask them for your birthday look for them on poshmark do what you need to do you will not i can confidently say you will not regret that purchase yeah in any capacity they're also the only leggings i wear yeah um okay i have had some fun with my transactions i bought um a new table i bought a new amazon table now i did end up i know the story the saga of the amazon tables i know what you're thinking just buy one on facebook marketplace and i understand but i told you last time i'm after very specific dimensions and it's just not they're not coming up for me like i need these specific dimensions so after my last debacle of like buying the wrong table someone a designer kimber sansone on instagram she's like this is the table you need to buy i have it it's amazing and i'm like that's all i was looking for bought it it has not arrived yet but i'm very excited about it i just what i'm hoping i can convince my husband to put it up with a smile on his face because i and i do believe this one does come this one looks easier to put together okay um well at least like you've at least i feel like you this should be a better shot just because like someone you like saw it on instagram yeah and i actually it's it's gonna be better it's it kind of looks like this like it's like a credenza it's got great storage like obsessed it's a credenza yeah you best of luck i really hope it works out you'll have to give us an update um okay something that i bought was a you're probably gonna think i'm silly for doing this a toddler tower like a standing tower for standing in the kitchen now you had one didn't yeah i was gonna say did i give you one you gave me one but it didn't have like a back bar so like James definitely fell off it was a hazard like and um Sloan is so wonderful but like always wants me to hold her and it's really hard to do that when I'm cooking so I was like let me have something so she can be involved and actually James used the hazardous toddler tower a lot but I had to get rid of it um so I do think we're gonna use it you your kids just weren't into it um i just didn't like i just at the time our house was like way too small to have that big of a contraption around my life yeah and i am just kind of like one to pull up a bar stool and i'm just kind of one to roll the dice like if they fall they will fall they will it's not so high or i'll get like a kitchen chair i just don't do a bar so i'll get a kitchen chair where it's like if they do fall off of it they will get hurt but we will not have to go to the are yeah okay and that's you know but that's okay people love them people love them in anything that you can do no i think it's gonna be i think it's i think it's going to be great like my kids always like want to be up on the island like they just like want to be doing things with me so i just i actually think my problem is that i only have one and i'm probably i'm gonna need two because they're both going to use it all the time i just know them there you go um my transactions are kind of boring but i my sweet sweet son george he is so incredible he's like such a fun kid and he's very much george is six right now he'll be seven in may oh my gosh it's disgusting yeah this is the first time where like i genuinely haven't wanted him to get older like i've talked this before i'm not the biggest baby person like i even think toddlers are kind of sorry annoying they are um but like George and Hattie I don't want them to be older like they are still sweet but they're independent like me and George like it makes me sick to my stomach to think like one day like a back scratch won't fix all of his problems for me like physically ill I'm physically ill when I think about that I know so anyway and he's also George is so hard to not um I think George is kind of like me in the sense where like George also has micro hobbies and like when George gets into something I get into it like he's so good at like getting me all lathered up about whatever he's talking about no it's so true like I just think George is going to be very much like me in that sense um so he's loves Legos and I know everyone's like oh my five-year-old's like so advanced for Legos. George is an incredible Lego engineer. Like he's so good at it. And he really, really wants Lego motors like that. So he can like motorize some of his creations. And I couldn't, I'm like, okay, like I, it's not his birthday. It's nothing special. Like he had $10 in his wallet. I made him give me to like for the formality, but I just thought it was a, what's a Lego motor run. They were $39 for like a pack, bit more expensive than I was hoping, bit more expensive than I was hoping. I mean, there's just like a level of it's like, it's using his brain. He's not sitting in front of a screen. Like he's, he's like, it's so good for him creatively that you just have like, it's a good toy to buy. I'm telling you, he's got me all jacked up about it. I'm like, yes. He's like, you know, if I had my motor, then this could be like this. And I'm like, okay, let's get the motor. You're right. Yeah. You're like, you're right. Yeah. And here, you know, I can't be, I can't be buying these Fisher price dollhouses and not, I mean, George isn't going to play with them. totally so it's just and i'm already like so sick to my stomach because george like if you've been following me for a while on instagram he has always been like the most incredible player like he has such a good imagination and he used to be really really into like those little toy animals like so into them and he would set up all these incredible scenes around our house and our yard of like and now he doesn't play with those anymore physically ill over it and jord fred doesn't really fred's more of like a car guy than an animal guy so i like packed up all the animals and like i have them like away but like those are the toys that i will pull out for george's kids one day because like all of like he has every animal he's got a llama he's got a komodo dragon with these little animal figurines he was obsessed well and those animal figurines go for at least 12 a pop oh i know i know they're expensive so yeah that's a long way to say i'm just like whatever george is no longer i mean i used to uh i just like can't believe i'm not like walking around like animal scenes set up all over my house anymore like i'm sick i'm a physical it's so it's like it is crazy how this is the most joyful time of my life and also just the absolute hardest and I know it can't be this way but there's just like a part of me that wishes like you would kind of have both it's like okay we get the the animal setups like we get the joy we're playing dinosaurs but then also it's like we don't have to do dinosaurs all the time like you get a break like it's just like it's it's all so hard and all so much right now but then it's gone and you don't ever get to come back to it well that's what i'm saying i guess yeah and i think what's interesting is it's it's it's how you remember things yeah and i think mom and dad always had a saying like when we went on because we went on some amazing family vacations we also went on some at the time not so amazing family vacations like they we got really into rv trips for a while which I think we've talked about. And they were, at the time, I'm sorry, miserable. We were crabby teenagers, scrammed in this RV for three weeks at a time. Like, we did not want to go. Seven tall people and two dogs. We didn't want to go. And mom would always tell us, like, sometimes family vacations are like wine and they get better and better as the years go by And she was so wise to say that because like when we get around and we start talking about things we talk about the funny stories of those vacations And like I look back on those. So I mean, she's 100 percent right. Like those are the memories I would actually like to go back and relive. But at the time, I did not think that. And similarly with, you know, as our kids get older, it's like you don't remember. how you might remember how hard it was but like your fondest memories are it's almost like your memories kind of become a highlight reel like you do just really remember a lot of the good times that you had and I think that's beautiful yeah sorry bit of a tange yeah no I I'm just feeling like I'm just like so in the thick of it right now and like the thought of adding a third kid is like really it's kind of so excited one day like you will have no one to talk to dinosaurs with like no one will talk to talk about dinosaurs like i know i know and actually like yeah it makes me again like i just like i want the snuggles like i want the joy but like like i also i don't want to wish his like their childhood away but it's also so hard sometimes i'm like can you just be a little bit older but then you have a seven-year-old and you're like just play with the animals like i don't know it's so hard it's so impossible yeah it is it is anyway i'm not really making any sense but i'm gonna i'm gonna move on to my last my last last um we are trying to potty train james sam like oh my gosh like what even is i'm gonna talk about things that are hard like potty training like what even is this um my son's not motivated by food as i'm sure anyone could guess. He is motivated by dinosaurs. So I have just I just placed an order of like, random dinosaur toys, whatever I have to have like hidden toys. So when he does, you know, do his do his business, I have something to like reward him with. So place just like a big random Amazon haul of miscellaneous poopoo prizes. Good for you. Yeah. Good for you. Hope it works out. I don't want to. I have no point. You know, I have not gotten to the point where I've like done any research on potty training. Like I haven't taken a course. Like I haven't followed an Instagram account. I'm just kind of going in blind. So if that was the wrong thing to do, I'll figure it out myself. But I'm not I'm not I'm not to that point of desperation yet. I'm just kind of winging it yeah i don't i'll give you guys an update when it's done let me just let me just end it with that okay i just think that's i just think that's better for me okay my last transaction was in fact a vintage fisher price minivan um lots of updates from my last episode i am on my poshmark grind for like the specific items because it's the same price as facebook marketplace i don't have to leave my house did you just get a coffee delivered did you just get a coffee delivered and food i'm so unbelievably i'm sick how jealous i am yeah i have a nice latte my coffee at home still isn't hitting i'm gonna see how long i can use that excuse because i'm definitely out of my or i'm definitely 12 weeks pregnant and feeling less nauseous but okay I'm jealous anyway so anyway I've been on Poshmark Poshmark is remember when you were like so into selling stuff on Poshmark it was so into selling stuff on Poshmark I would find anything I could to sell it I started digging through Grayson's clothes to sell them um my problem with Poshmark because like I love tea collection and mini Bowdoin like those are my kids favorite clothes like I'm obsessed I'm always looking for especially for Hattie and Libby like I'm always looking for tea in Bowdoin and I'm fine to buy them secondhand because the quality is amazing but the problem with Poshmark is people are listing only one item at a time like I need more bundles on Poshmark well you can like add a bundle I know but sorry I like now I'm now it's taking too much of my time and I don't know like that now I don't know what you have like I'm looking for I like Bowdoin clothes my daughter's a size six seven what do you got give me my Bowdoin six seven bundle I can't I don't like like piece me all these things together so I kind of got off my posh mark because it's like you know you'd buy a shirt for 20 bucks from Bowdoin you pay seven dollars shipping it was just it was getting a little much for me yeah yeah then I feel like I wasn't getting the deal then I felt like I could just wait but I was like I wonder if they have these toys on here because like now that I'm after these minivans um those are harder to find on Facebook Marketplace or they're coming like in a lot where it's like I don't want the whole lot I just want the van so I I'm gonna be honest with you I've bought three I've bought three I'm not proud but I plan to make this like a series an unboxing and these toys are so cool and I'm gonna let my kids play with them like I want to be 100% clear with that they're not going to be in a display case like I want my kids to play with them I'm very excited about it well And that's what I'm interested to know is are your kids going to love them or is this all for just for fun? Funsies. We'll see. Do you have people yet? Well, I have a pending pending. Yeah, I'm getting people. I just haven't got my butt to St. Louis yet. I'm going to go tomorrow maybe. Oh, OK. It's like with the kids being off school, it was a little hard to get there. I see. That's what I've been transacting on. I'm still on my vintage mini Fisher Price toys. you know someone did tag us on instagram being like my mom kept all of them and my kids play with them at their house and the fisher price uh loving family is their favorite toy to play with well and someone messaged me and they were like i have the whole set i have all boys i'll send it to you and i'm like i will pay you any money market i'll pay you market um so i need to play kitchen and i think you can have mine i my kids never play with our play kitchen okay i so play kitchens like piss me off because you can buy them for like 120 like a cheap one i think it's like 120 and then people have the absolute audacity to be listing them on facebook marketplace for 100 i'm like look i want to buy a second hand because i don't want to assemble it and like you know so it's this is something that's very easy to buy second hand but i don't want your all drawn up sticker covered kitchen for a hundred dollars on it like once you add stickers to toys i'm sorry the value goes down that's what i'm saying like people are so crazy it's like just because you bought it for 180 doesn't mean you get to go turn around and sell it for 100 on marketplace and they sit they sit sell it for 50 and i'm doing you a favor by taking it off your hands that's what i'm saying like do you want to then i mean but liz that's their right that's their choice someone might buy but if you want to move things like if you want things gone price to sell price to sell that's what i when i do sell on marketplace i'm either free or i'm i'm dirt cheap i want it out of my life i'm like literally getting to the point where it's like if i never make it to goodwill to drop off this bag it might just be faster for me to list everything on marketplace for really cheap yeah and have people come pick it up for me totally totally um but anyway so wait okay so maybe i will take your play kitchen but what i wanted to say is that since i've been looking at fisher price on facebook marketplace a lot of like plastic fisher price play kitchens have been coming up that i remember from my childhood i'm like we're so into like the retro like the wood kitchens right now it's like is the plastic kitchen maybe just the way to go i think so because i'm telling you i our library has that plastic fisher price kitchen the kids love it our wooden one our aesthetic wooden one my kids literally couldn't be bothered could not be bothered that's kind of what i'm saying so my next fisher price find and again i'm not going to pay market for this one if i find one i'm going to pick it up but the washer dryer from fisher price oh i saw one on marketplace for like 30 bucks in st near me elizabeth wait wait let me try and find it kelly but like i i thought about it but like what are your kids gonna do with it like put clothes in it that's not up to me play with that i don't know elizabeth but i feel like they will what okay that was my hold up if you could like if you could have any toy mint from our childhood what would you choose mint I know the felt doll things that we used to play with oh my gosh what even were those felt 100 what were those called felt they weren't dolls they were like felt it was like a flat thing you're never gonna find it she was brown and had a pink dress what was i'm gonna have to do some research wow because yeah like felt dolls are not oh wait it was like this did you find it this is not exactly it but this was the vibe i don't remember that's not it um i would probably choose we had a really really big Polly Pocket collection? Oh, yeah. We did. Polly Pockets were great. The old ones. The new ones are like not right though. There's just something not right about it. Well, do we need to look at Polly Pockets on Marketplace? Okay. Are we ready to move on? Felt doll board is kind of closer. If anyone knows what the heck I'm talking about. I cannot find this. I'm going to sound like such an idiot. But yeah, Polly Pockets are a good one. Oh, Littlest Pet Shops. Loved. I liked those. Okay. Are you ready to move on though? Because I feel like. Yeah. So we have some advice questions that I feel like we have to get to because like you haven't done consultations in so long and like, sorry, people need your consulting. Yes. So I do just want to give an update on that. I am planning on bringing back the consultations very soon. Like stay very, very, very much on tune with my Instagram stories. I think we're going to try to launch them. They might already be launched by the time this podcast comes out. Okay, perfect. Well, I know. I know. Let's get to I've got two of them. If we could just answer these. This one's comes from Laura. I'm a mom of three girls, 15, 12 and eight. We are currently in a 2022. First of all, how relaxing does that sound? Three girls, 15, 12 and eight. That's lovely. we are currently in a 2022 Subaru ascent with 94,000 miles it was not my first choice but it's the right choice for us financially at the time my goal is to have a new model Ford Expedition but don't want to pay the price tag right now I'm absolutely over being squished in the ascent all three girls play sports and it's not uncommon for them to have their bag their sports bags in the car at the same time that's six backpacks my question is do we trade in the ascent before it hits 100,000 miles to get the most money for it and get the older model expedition or wait for the new model expedition, which would make the most or wait and save up for the new model expedition, which would make the most financial sense. We aren't upside down in the ascent, but according to Kelly Blue Book, we would only get one to $2,000 for it. Well, that's not true. What? For 2022? I don't know what she's talking about. that doesn't make any sense two thousand dollars for 2022 i think she meant no that you probably get like twenty thousand dollars for it maybe not 20 well maybe i don't know i don't know i don't i'm not going to put a number i mean it's got 94 it's got a lot of miles on it's got 94 000 miles how many times do i have to tell people how many times do i have to tell people that 100 000 miles is not that many miles like i'm literally sick of talking about it um so she wants she wants the new ford expedition but she's i think she's yeah she's just trying to decide if she should just get rid of the ascent while it's worth the most amount of money here's what i think you want i think you want space yeah and i think you don't have space now so i would probably tell you like the the your car's worth the most it's going to be today and a used expedition is worth the least amount it's going to be today so I would say financially this is not financial advice but like that would make the most sense those expeditions are going to be the cheapest your trade's worth the most and I think you want space I don't more than you want the latest and the greatest tech split tailgate the the clout of driving a new one and those let me be clear those are all valid reasons those are all why I want the new expedition but I don't think those are your reasonings I think if you're I think if you're looking for space I think the pre-owned one will do fine and I have a 23 expedition and I love it I love it so much I love it I'm not I would love a new one I'm not going to go spend money on a new one right now yeah the problem is is like you are just she's also just so many years away from even getting the new one because she wanted to wait until it was used because they don't want to buy like a 2026 and 2026 but i will also tell you like just because maybe you're not aware of this like the ascent is a very small mid-sized suv so like there are also a lot of cars in between ascent to expedition that could be worth exploring for you also those examples would be like the chevy traverse the honda pilot the volkswagen atlas those are all going to give you a lot more room than the ascent without being the size of the expedition so you may want to test drive those it may be yeah maybe worth your time to just test drive those because that might just check your box and then you don't have to spend the money on the expedition because I think the mid-size category is so confusing to people because like it is such a wide there's so many cars in it and I think people are like oh mid-size is too small that means I need full size but it kind of depends on what mid-size you have like if you're in a Chevy Traverse and you think it's too small well then yeah that's the biggest one so like if the Chevy Traverse isn't big enough then you do need full size but the Ascent is literally I would put the Ascent in the same category as like the Toyota Highlander the Kia Sorento the Volkswagen Tiguan this Hyundai Santa Fe like the Ascent is small it's small yeah it's small okay that could be a good option yeah that's what you call a tangible takeaway and then you know the other thing is I will just say I don't know where you guys live or like what your plan is for your daughter but they have a 15 year old so it's like do you want to have a teen car like do you keep the if you're only going to get one to two thousand dollars for it allegedly that's not true that's not true that's a typo she might have meant 10 to 12 thousand dollars for it maybe which is still i think kind of a lot we only are you ready for industry news no i have another i have another question oh i'm sorry i didn't know okay this comes from lauren oh my god we got a laura and a lauren um i am a 29 year old pregnant with my first due at the end of june i have a 2013 chevy sonic with 225 miles on it and my husband has a lifted 2007 chevy silverado with 180 000 miles on it so we would like i said 100 000 miles is not that many how much was their sonic 225 yeah 225 yeah right okay um we would like to get a new car before baby is here i know that goes against uh first time mom car make it work but it's not as reliable as we would like it and it's pretty i want to be so clear you are the exception not the rule that's not a hard and fast rule yeah i know you can let's get you a new car i agree we want three kids we only ever have had chevys due to family discounts we are are really struggling and have no idea where to begin do we go bigger as we usually have cars for 10 plus years or get a mid-size we also have a boat that would be nice to tow with his with this new car to get a camp and hope to get a camper in the future we do a lot of two to three hour road trips as our family lives all over michigan um so this is a really this is really really hard because I also want to say like you don't necessarily know how much space you need like even me like I have four kids and I can't imagine being anything smaller but even when I had three to me like my breaking point when I had three kids I wanted to be in a full-size SUV but I have so many people who have three kids who are so happy in their mid-size SUVs so like that's where I kind of have to give a little bit of a asterisk because like to me the Atlas was too small for three kids to me the Traverse was too small for three kids I wanted I needed an Expedition Tahoe minivan size when I hit three but again so many people don't so it's kind of hard to know what side you going to be on but I would say like with the towing I mean depending on how heavy things are I mean if it over 5 pounds you probably going to need something full size so then I would probably tell you any of the full sizes are good would work excellent and if you like the Chevy Tahoe I need to say this I do like the Chevy Tahoe I think the Chevy Tahoe is great um I would kind of my only pushback would be like why do you feel like you need to keep a car for 10 years like Could we just maybe buy a pre-owned car? Could we buy like, you know, I mean, how old, what year is her Sonic? Like old? 2013. Okay, I'm not that old. But like, can we buy a 2017 with the plan to keep it for three to four years until we outgrow it? Or like, do we have to go buy like a new car to keep for 10 years right now? I think sometimes we all need to slow down and ask ourselves like, I know that's what you want to do. But like then what you're asking a car to do is you're asking a car to do something different for the next 10 years. And that can be really difficult. And I also just don't know if you like need to be paying a Ford Expedition payment right now for one kid. Well, and, you know, for people who keep their cars for 10 plus years, like I have friends that have done that and everything. It's like because you had the luxury to do that, honestly, because you were able to like when you have kids and when you have car seats and when you're trying to haul all these things for all these different phases of life, you can't always keep things. I mean, of course you can, you can make it work, but just because you've done that in the past doesn't mean that's how you have to do it for this stage of life. And I think when people hear that and they grant themselves permission to not feel like they have to buy a car and keep it for 10 years, it is so freeing and actually a breath the fresh air because it's like maybe right now in this phase of life that minivan or that car that or maybe that that car that you don't love or that's not your dream car maybe that just gets you through this phase of life 100 elizabeth there is a light at the end of the tunnel if that's not where you want to be it's not always it's not always the smartest choice and people are people think buy a car and keep it is always the smartest choice and that is not true for a growing family. And so many times families will buy the car with the intention to keep it for 10 years. And then it doesn't work because they had more kids than they were expecting. They had surprise twins, their financial situation changed. And now they're trying to get out of a 10 year, quote, 10 year purchase at year three. And now they're in a bad financial situation. So my best advice to you would be, I would go buy a used car and drive it until it doesn't work. and then if you then buy it off like your 10-year family car once you have your kids once you know how many kids you're going to have and how quickly and you know what kind of mom you're going to be i would also say if you guys want for this example she wants three kids um don't know how fast you want three kids but also if you want a camper if you want the boat you can also put i mean depending on the the size what kind of silverado your husband has you can put three car seats in a Silverado. So maybe the road trip car is just the Silverado and then you don't need to spend the money and the gas on a full-size SUV for your daily driver. I agree. Okay, those were good, Liz. Are you ready for industry news where I spill the hot tea going on the auto industry? I sure am. Just two little stories. The first is from Car and Driver and it says, Toyota teases a mysterious new SUV with a blocky design. The Japanese automaker teased a new vehicle and the shadowy photo shows what looks to be an SUV with wide hips in a squared off cabin. Process of elimination makes us think this could be the new midsize SUV to replace the aging Highlander, possibly with an electric powertrain. This is all they've shared. It's like, can you see this? Yeah. So she does have wide hips in a squared off. You know, I thought, imagine if they would have to say that about a woman, but that is kind of the only way to describe that image. Yeah. It looks interesting. Well, I'm always interested in a new SUV. I wonder when they're going to release it. I wonder maybe it'll be at one of the auto. I feel like they're not doing releases at auto shows anymore, which is kind of sad. No, they're kind of like planning their own thing. Which is fine. Which is fine. Which is fine. Okay. The last story. This is just like something kind of funny. so anyway let's watch on that but I would be excited about a new Highlander I really would be they need they honestly need to do it like we need a little bit more something a little bit more competitive we learned that it will be a new version of an established nameplate yeah I'm sure it's the Highlander okay the next is this was such a funny Instagram this is from Motor One and I guess over the snowstorms this past weekend Chrysler was doing some testing with the new Pacifica and it got trapped in the snow and people were taking pictures of this spy car stuck in the snow. No. Guess it wasn't the all wheel drive model. Kind of funny. No. Okay, Elizabeth, I have a football update too that I want to get to really to really fast. Okay. Okay. So currently, like I was all about the Seahawks because of the thing with the popes. but I think I may be swayed to be cheering for the Patriots this year because currently Tyler literally texted or called me this morning he was like do you know about the Patriots quarterback's wife and I thought he was like tell me like some crazy drama and I'm like no what and he's like they're the most regular wholesome looking couple you've ever seen in your life I was like what Elizabeth get your phone look up Ann Michael May M-A-Y-E i mean michael may that's the most basic name like i'm telling you we know these people like they are like we went to high school with her like they are actually not they're actually so much younger than us like this is one of grayson's friends it's not but i'm just saying like they are so i know nothing about these two baby i know nothing about them except for how cute and like look at their little wedding photo are you kidding me what in the midwestern i have i know nothing about them except for that fact i'm obsessed like here she is graduating college i'm scared to see the year oh 2025 okay and that's the quarterback that's the court they just got married this year i mean this kid this quarterback he looks like a kid oh this is sweet good for them i know i'm obsessed so you know i love to see i love to see this like this picture of them on the field i'm like what do you mean this isn't like your high school homecoming game like it's literally they're darling they're really cute this is what i love to see i love to see like you know she's probably she was probably like so supportive of him throughout college or whatever however long they've been together and then like i just want to say like i'm not seeing regular people i'm obsessed i'm like i just want to say like and like they were elizabeth here they are here they are in college like they've been dating since college like here she is oh she was a katie in her sorority katies are always the sweetest like the k our mom was a capital but like every at all the colleges like all of the houses are very different of course i do feel like capital across the board is always just like the really wholesome sweet innocent girls who like study and like i'm not saying that they like i'm gonna follow her right now i'm not saying like i don't know if they want kids i don't know what their story is but like i'm just saying if they do want kids i hope that i come across their desk and i would love to i would love to serve the maze in any way that i could okay you know i'm kind of surprised you don't get reached out by like more celebrities to like oh i do them i do oh you do like who yeah well i don't know if i should like say like you don't want to disclose no i don't want to disclose i don't want to disclose but you know i mean one girl like looks like me like we talk a lot about her oh yeah oh yeah oh yeah yeah um and then like a lot of the mormon wives do follow me on instagram oh i have quite a few people who follow me i'm not gonna lie just like you know just wait until they become wait until they need to do three across then i'll be their girl then i'll be their gal i just looked her up on instagram you and grayson's boyfriend are following her we gotta be grayson's boyfriend on the pod one of these days yeah Grayson's boyfriend is I'm obsessed so funny are they so cute are you still stalking them like yeah I am I'm obsessed so anyway go do that okay so I'm not dare I say go Pats like it just gives and it's so funny because someone either dm'd me or posted on the Facebook page like I know you think the Patriots are boring but do you know the story of the quarterback and let me be clear that's all it takes for me I need I that's all it takes I just need some cute story because now I was like so hateful about the rams but then i started seeing all the cunt i love being on football the football algorithm it's just like it's i love being a part of something i feel amazing about it i'm so sad for the rams now though because the rams may be quarterback i don't know it's this darling wife they have four girls and she dresses them to the nines every single game these four little girls they had matching moon boots on at the last game they are adorable that's good stuff i'm here for i'm that's that and that is all i i need to see more of this stuff because then i'm interested don't even get me started on fernando mendozo like if you do not know the story of fernando mendozo type in fernando type in indiana football and educate yourself give me the disney movie tomorrow i'm so i actually love sports wait do i i love sports i love a story like this okay we're moving on we are moving on to ditch the drive-thru where i give you an easy dinner recipe to mix it up to get you out of y'all dinner rep what are you looking at you're a little distracted right now i saw i'm reading a ditch the drive-thru submission oh well i have one that's gonna leave you quaking okay well this one looks this one sounds really good i'm actually considering making for dinner tonight okay well why don't you start okay um my dtd idea has been a big one at our house lately and even the leftovers being gobbled up it's something i discovered 10 years ago pre-kids and somehow forgot about until recently and now i'm obsessed with again these are my favorite recipes it's southwest meatloaf and honestly my family was gassing me up at the table i kept thinking about how you both you both and how good it felt to get those dinner accolades oh my gosh maybe this one could finally get liz some flowers too i have ground beef thawing right now i have ground beef thawing on the edge of my seat for this very loose recipe no measuring here those are my favorite kinds ground turkey is my favorite but beef works too uh i use the costco pack one and 1.7 pounds but one and a half to two pounds is fine about a cup of crushed tortilla chips okay so half a jar of salsa shredded cheddar cheese blend one egg splash of milk salt and pepper mix it all together and put in a greased loaf pan bake at 250 bake at 350 timing depends on how thick it is if it's all it might take like an hour but check at 45 minutes or it could take like 30 minutes she goes i like to broil it briefly for i like to broil it at the end for a crispy top we serve it with mexican style rice aroni corn sometimes refried greens or bell peppers sour cream salsa and avocado are great add-ons this is not adding up to me but like i'm i really want to trust kendall here well i trust kendall wholeheartedly all this is is serving you're just serving serving it in a loaf form and like i love the idea of like then having all my toppings like my sour cream and salsa and avocado like kind of like throwing that on top this sounds like really nice i'm obsessed okay that's a really good screenshot this to you so you can see it okay so my to the drive-thru is so inspired by my past weekend because mom so dad came down to the farm with us yesterday and mom our mom's actually in australia right now going to visit sydney and our poor father is now without mother for 10 days i think it's the longest i've ever been apart they're quaking they're quaking I'm quaking I'm like so nervous for him I'm like checking on him all the time I know he's called me two times already today like just I mean like he's it's it's interesting um anyway so mom sent dad with a with a half a honey baked ham and like I just want to say like you can just buy a honey baked ham at any time of the year yeah and we made then we had Hawaiian rolls Swiss cheese this honey baked ham durkies. If you don't know durkies, you don't know what you're missing. Durkies. I'm not going to get into it right now. I'm not going to get into it right now. Look it up and buy that condiment 100%. It's a condiment to always have on hand. So this honey baked ham was, the kids couldn't believe it. They were just asking for extra pieces of ham. I mean, who doesn't love a honey baked ham? But it got me thinking like, well, you know, you get one around Easter or around like Christmas. I'm going to buy one for our next lake week. Yeah. I'm just going to buy a freaking ham. I'm going to buy a ham. It's in the fridge. I'll chop it up for breakfast. We'll have sandwiches on the boat. And then, you know, I'm going to save that bone and I'm going to make the meanest ham and bean soup you've ever seen. Yeah. Put it in a breakfast quiche. Yeah. Do a little like carbonara pasta with it. I mean, like, buy, I'm like, that's, I'm buying a honey baked ham the next time we go to the lake one of my favorite dinners that mom used to make was literally slice of honey baked ham like mac and cheese durkies and like i don't know peas or something she always did it with peas so good i'm just saying like if you want to like ditch the and like also i mean they are a little so like the half a ham dad said it was a half a honey baked ham it was 70 bucks that is expensive but i'm telling you it was so much ham and also that's what he said i i need to price check him but i also think you can make honey baked hams i think you can just buy a spiralized ham from aldi's and like then bake make it make the honey glaze yourself and do it there's lots of i would be kind of surprised if it's actually that much because pork is usually pretty affordable let me google it really fast but i'm telling you it was so much ham yeah i would not really trust that to like serve like at a pool party like i just think we need to be thinking about honey baked ham more she does not get the credit she deserves well she's just put in a box for the holidays and i just don't think she should be okay no does everyone have honey baked hams like it's a store no there's a honey baked ham store called honey baked ham i'm wondering if that's like just a us thing i don't think so but i actually don't know let me look it up okay i'm just like okay here we go okay no a bone and ham is between 86 to 140 oh my gosh but that's for oh that's a half ham okay i kind of need to back okay that was okay but you can get other ones like you can get a small boneless ham a corner bone and ham but like how many people does that feed oh you can order ham online from honey baked ham company okay so to serve up to so for a hundred and eighteen dollars you get a 10 pound ham and it serves up to 13 people so what's 118 divided by 13 can you do that for me really fast sorry what did you say 118 divided by 13 it's less than ten dollars a person sorry i don't know how my calculator out okay now what is it this is so embarrassing 118 divided by 13 okay nine so for nine dollars a person so there you go they can't so maybe that's why it's a holiday thing but like totally buy it have your plan in place to use it to it's full no but also like when you go on vacation like okay to serve 13 people something to go out to dinner for 13 people that's insane and i'm telling you you need this ham and then you get hawaiian rolls and turkeys and swiss cheese and like it's the best it's it's the best lunch yeah and you can make a ham bean soup with it so you're getting two meals okay i love it it sounds really that is the most concept I'm going to maybe look up if I can make it myself because I think you could just buy spiralized ham and then honey bake it. 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