This is an I Heart Podcast. Guaranteed human. No gloss, no filter. Just stories, spoken without fear. A person who is not generous cannot be an artist. The world will be at peace only when it is ruled by poets and philosophers. Listen to my weekly podcast, the Pooja Bhachon on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Come for the honesty, stay for the fire. Comedy saved me. Welcome to Comedy Saved Me, the show where laughter isn't just fun, it's survival. I'm your host, Lynn Hoffman, and today we are unpacking the magic behind the mic. How comedy may not only make us laugh, but helps us heal, grow, and reclaim our lives. My guest today, I'm so grateful, is Dave Landau, a comedian who has transformed life's toughest moments into stories that connect, inspire, and remind us all that humor can be a true lifeline. We are so excited to have you here on the show, Dave. And I know we've had a couple of hits and misses trying to catch each other, so thank you for carving out some time for us today. Oh, thank you for having me, I appreciate it. All right, well on that note, we gotta take a quick commercial break. All right, I'll see you later. I'll be right back. Please don't go anywhere. We've tried this four times. I've got him, I've got him. I'm gonna strap him in, and you strap in, and maybe you can get like a snack or something, and we're just gonna play some commercials for that, we're grateful for them so that we can do this show. We'll be right back. Comedy saved me. Welcome back, my guest. On Comedy Saved Me, Dave Landau. Dave, many of our listeners turned to comedy as a way of coping with pain. I myself am included in that. When did you first realize that comedy was more than just an escape that it actually healed people? Boy, that's a good question. I don't know if, I guess when I realized that my comedy may have helped people, like I've put out a book and I've done a lot of shows for recovery groups. Should I have people come up and say I got sober because of something you said? I mean, comedy was always a defense mechanism for me, even since I was a little kid, so a lot of my escapism was into even watching stand up or sketch shows or whatever it was. So I think that, yeah, at a young age, I guess, I figured that humor was a good way out. Who were some of your favorites? When you say a young age, I'm seeing you look young to me. I'm thinking Saturday Night Live, kinda era. SNL 90s era, yeah, but also, you know, like Prior Eddie Murphy, Joan Rivers, Ronnie Dangerfield, like a lot of old albums my dad had, Bob Newhart. So I had a bunch of ones that I would look back on and at the current time, I loved, obviously, which was 90s SNL, Second City and that stuff. The best, the best. You know, you've spoken a lot during my research. I've noticed that you've been very open about your journey through addiction and struggles. How has comedy helped you personally process and transform those difficult experiences? Well, it's allowed me to actually tell the story of my life in a funny way, because like 13 arrests and drug addiction cannot always be the most fun. I shouldn't say can't always be the most fun. Like sometimes it's a really good thing and benefits everyone. Well, sometimes it's fun, but I don't recommend it. It's what I'm saying. But I think the more honest you get on stage, the more people connect with you on an actual personal level. Like you're able to kinda reach more people. So the ability to be able to do that now and like it used to being honest was really something that, I don't know, it helped me out because I can just make jokes about whatever is dark and just kinda mind that for material. Do you, when you're on stage, I'm just curious, do you see their faces? I mean, sometimes the lights are pretty bright and you can't, I mean, you can get a feel for, you know, audible things and stuff. But do you see when you've really connected with an audience and does that sort of give you more inspiration? Oh yeah, especially with the right crowd. And then sometimes you see the opposite where like last weekend a really drunk guy stood up and was trying to get out of the room to go to the bathroom and he just face planted right into a wall. And I was like, well, there's a reminder of why I don't drink anymore. So yeah, it goes both ways. It was fun. It really was loud. I don't, I think he's hurt today or has internal bleeding, but I think he pre-gamed in the parking lot. So it's all on him. So I... I wish people could see your face right now because he's got a huge smile. I mean, the guy, I don't think the guy's really hurt, is he? Maybe. Stitches maybe? Maybe, I don't think it was stitches. He seemed, it doesn't seem like he, it was not the first time he got drunk and smashed his head into a wall, I promise. I would say even that day. Wow. Yeah. So, but yeah, when you do connect with somebody or you realize somebody's there for you, it's an amazing thing. And lately I put out a book and people are actually showing up with the book to get signed and that's kind of exciting because, you know, if you're spending five years in high school and not really being on a path of educational promise, it's cool to have like some... Life education. Life education. Yes, life education, as they say, the street smarts, which means I can get you an eight ball of Coke, but I can't do long division. These are the challenges. Exactly. It's pretty amazing though. What is the name of your book and what could one find when one reads your book? It's called a Party of One, a Fuzzy Memoir and it's available on amazon.com. The Audible is coming out soon. And what made you decide you had to write a book? And comedy wasn't enough. You wanted to really just etch it in writing forever. Five years ago when COVID happened, I needed an outlet. So I wrote my story of my teen years into my adulthood years and what got me so burned of all my different arrests. And I took me about five years to actually have the guts to put it out. And ask everybody who's in it like, hey Brian, I changed your name to Ryan. That's cool, right? Like just little things in it that are very obvious. Were people receptive? Yeah, everybody was really supportive. I was worried they wouldn't be. And fortunately, all my friends were very, very cool about it. That's so cool. I've often toyed with doing that myself because I've had friends who said, you can always change people's names. And I thought, nah, I'd rather wait until everyone's gone. Yeah, it's true. I think I'm so healthy, I'm gonna outlive everybody and then I can tell the story. Right, what's sad is that I have, but yeah, it is, I think it's worth it. And then if they do say yes, make sure the name is as close as possible so they regret saying yes for your interviews. I like that. What, wow. And the response obviously has been really good on the book. Oh yeah, it hit number one on Amazon for a second and still selling. And yeah, it was really cool that it's done as well as it has. Wow, congratulations, Dave. That's really cool. Thank you. That's a big deal because I'm guessing you put it out there not only to help yourself, but to help those who are reading it. Yeah, a lot of people have come to my shows because at some point I will discuss sobriety and just tell some stories from when I was younger. And a lot of people wanted to hear more about that. So what I did was it's kind of like a fifth step, a fifth step put into, I don't know, into a book, I guess. It's just something that I had to work out and stories that I was already doing in my act. So, and not all of them. I mean, most of them I hadn't talked about. And that's, I guess the word is cathartic, anybody would use. But it was nice to take the darkest things that I didn't wanna share and then just share them. Cause there's something, I don't know, that like gives you power that you feel like you've lost or when you've become powerless to something. That's so true. Can you share a little teaser with our audience? Oh, one of those stories? Geez, I wanna make it a fun one cause a lot of them aren't. Oh, I was, my friends and I were slowly robbing a pharmacy that we were working as. Not, I shouldn't say robbing like it was a big deal, but this was, well, it was a big deal, but this was during the nineties where it was right before the opioid boom, where every like oxy came out and everything. Like it was there, but it was not, people were not aware of what was gonna happen. So they weren't looking at controlled pharmaceuticals, the way that they do now in the sense of like counting every one of them. It was sort of done by weight and nobody really cared. So every time we took out the trash, which was conveniently next to the Vicodin, Perkisetz, Valium, Morphine patches, et cetera, we would take a little something for ourselves. And this was at a time when I was also on an acid bender. I was about 15. So, yeah, so it kind of encompasses that point in my life, that story. And how I ended up getting fired from the job was I got caught stealing a delicious snack called PB crisps, which were, it's like peanut butter and jelly inside of a graham cracker peanut. And I loved them whenever I was high, I still would love them, but they discontinued them because somebody at planners doesn't know how to think. Oh. It's delicious, I'm telling you. It does not sound very delicious. It's amazing though. Of all things, you couldn't have picked a Snickers bar or something, it's like graham crackers. I took so much of them that apparently I had like unloaded half a crate on video, like over time that I just kept, because I didn't even think it was really, I'm like, I'm stealing this other stuff. I'll just casually grab these off the shelf. And again, I don't condone stealing. I have my issues behind why this was happening. But yeah, then when I got called into the office, I'm like, oh, I'm gonna be like arrested for like by the feds or something. And I got fired for stealing graham crackers. And I was like, oh, okay. And I had it like a, my pocket, I had like a cellophane full of valium. I was like, okay. Oh my God. I'm gonna go, boy, this is a bummer. I mean, I think I made more money off of selling the farmies at school than I did actually at the job. Well, in fact, I know I did, because it was five to 10 bucks for a pill and I made 4.19 an hour. Wow. Well, do not try this at home, but at least you could put it under the title of potential entrepreneurship. Yeah, it's a, just be a go get it. Feel free to take risks. That's what I'm trying to say. Just not those risks. Those are terrible. Yeah, that's very stupid. But I was 15. Wow. But you were 15. So to be fair, your brain wasn't fully developed yet. It's still not, but it wasn't then. We'll have to delve into that like after the show. No. Dave, what ways do you see your humor building connections between people? Especially when everyone's sort of wrestling with their own hardships. And in these days, it seems like there's a huge mental health problem, myriad reasons, of course. I mean, I blame social media for a large chunk of it, but nonetheless, there's a lot of that inhibiting our worlds these days. I think, yeah, I think social media is the anti-Christ, but that's a different thing altogether. But I do feel that the dopamine hits that people are getting. It's the same with gambling, I think, is probably the worst addiction people can have because now it's available on your phone. Sorry if they're a sponsor, you can cut that out. But, okay. It'd be weird if you're like, brought to you by DraftKings. The suicide rates are 20% and Apple DraftKings. Yes. Oh my God, thanks, Dave. You make me wait four times and now we're gonna ruin all of our advertisers. Yeah. Every one of mine are gambling sponsorships and also Percocets. But yeah, I think the more, I don't know, I forgot where I was, I was laughing at how ridiculous, oh yeah, gambling and addiction and substance. Yeah, I think we all deal with it now where we're all addicted. We're all addicted to something. And I think the biggest thing we're addicted to without noticing it is disconnection. And we're not talking to people like we used to, we're not socializing like we used to. I mean, people are making sex robots, which is the most insane thing I've ever heard in my entire life. And we're not communicating with each other, we're not being forgiving to each other. And that's the problem with the internet is there used to be this story where you had an arc of victory. You wanted to see somebody at their worst who then became their best. Well, now at your worst is permanent and people wanna leave you there. And I think it goes for anybody through whatever culture of judgment. And I think individually, people are fine. I think masses or asses is very true, but dealing with a large group of people like at once all part of a movement that they really don't believe in is extraordinarily dangerous. And I think a lot of what goes on online is extraordinarily dangerous. And now you're looking at the AI movement, you're looking at all these other things. And it's not to be a fear monger, but where are we gonna go? Why are we doing this to our own people? We're allowing ourselves to be destroyed. And I think people are really broken right now and angry. And I think we're seeing it more and more because it's no longer like the frog in the pot of water getting hotter. I mean, it's at a boil and every time you turn on anything, you're getting some kind of news to show how broken somebody might be. And I think just letting people know that if you, it's so cliche, but that one day at a time thing and just seriously like, you know, wash one dish at a time, just try to get through one thing at a time, you really can try to figure it out, but it's all very overwhelming if you try to do everything all at once. And I don't know how people can. It's like that, you probably don't remember it, but one foot in front of the other, the song and that holiday cartoon or claymation thing that we watched, Christmas thing, put one foot in front of the other. I mean, I remember that. It's true though. My parents used to tell me, if you're overwhelmed, pretend like your head is a stove top and I'm like, okay, I'm game. And there was like two burners in the back and two burners in the front, you know, whatever's on the front burner, that's what you focus on. The stuff in the back burner can wait. Yeah. And I was like, well, that makes sense, I guess. As long as nothing burns on the back burner. Right, of course, yeah. And the house isn't burning and you're just ignoring it, trying to cook noodles. But no, I get it though. It makes perfect sense, just try to do the one thing that actually works for you. And then it works for that moment. Because really life is just a moment and everything else doesn't exist. And that's something that it's been very hard for me to grasp, but it's helped me tremendously. Well, it's amazing advice and I'm so glad that you've gotten it and you're sharing it. And for someone listening right now who's feeling extremely overwhelmed or maybe even isolated, especially with what you just explained, what role can comedy or creative expression play in maybe finding their resilience? I know you just sort of touched on it a bit. I think it's just taking your power back and being able to create something for yourself. I think that's something that's right there in front of us. And also having an outlet that's not just venomous attacks online or raging or just staring at us, doom-scrolling TikTok and Instagram and everything else, which I think is something else everybody likes to do right before bed is to see 5,000 things their brain shouldn't handle. And I think if you create, it gives you a very calming, I don't know, it can calm your life down. It can calm your head down, at least for me. If I take that time to create and if I take that time to work on myself and work on something that I like, even if it's drawing, even if it's something that they're not gonna pay you for, even if it's something you suck at, like going and playing golf or something, it's worth it to do something. You're right. And I'm guessing it comes down to focus. So you don't even have to be good at golf or painting. And I'm not. Nor am I. Dave? Funny, there's something we have in common. What would you give? That's great advice for someone who's, you know, dealing in the moment, but in terms of someone who maybe wants to become a comedian like you, what advice would you give someone using humor, not only as a tool for personal recovery, but also who want to potentially entertain others and make others laugh? Do it. The biggest obstacle is always ourselves. That's the biggest enemy. It's just between your ears. It's you telling you you can't do it. So just do it. There's nothing stopping you. Absolutely nothing. There any excuse you may, because an excuse not to do something. There's no reason you can't get on stage. There's no reason you can't call an open mic. There's no reason you can't try. And if your logic is like, well, it's gonna take me years and years and I don't want to do, well, then don't do it. But if you're willing to sacrifice, do it. You know, and it's worth it. Sorry Nike called, they would like their slogan back. That's fair. I don't blame them. I don't know why that just hit me. I'm like, just do it. I've heard that before. Yes. Yeah. But it's very smooth. I just realized I said that, yeah. Everything that I say is off of t-shirts, just so you know. All right, well, it's good. I don't have anything. I'm a blank canvas here. I was just looking around the room and there was just a Nike hoodie hung up. No, but it's amazing advice. And there's a reason why they use that as their national slogan, because it's true. Just do it. You know, don't procrastinate, but that's a problem with creative people. We do. And maybe sometimes they don't even know that they're creative, but they are. And doing something and focusing on it seems to be a real magical little key. It is. Yeah, and I mean, I procrastinate constantly. I mean, that's just part of, I think everybody does. Anybody who says they're not is just lying to you, but I do it all the time. And I think of reasons not to do stuff. And I go against everything. You know, I'm self-destructive by nature. So there's always gonna be that little piece of me that's gonna prevent me from going really far if I let it or doing the thing that I wanna do if I let it. And sometimes it wins, but usually I find my way out of it. We'll be right back with more of the Comedy Saved Me podcast. No gloss, no filter. Just stories, spoken without fear. Addiction is a disease, and it should be looked upon as any other disease. How did you cope with a reckless father like me? 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Because the way I was brought up and raised, everyone around us, you know, if there was a problem, shh, no one talked about it. You can't talk about this. You can't, I don't want to tell you about that. And, you know, that would admit that I'm vulnerable, or that's something, you know, that I'm broken in some way. But doing comedy about these things is so vulnerable, really, especially where all the bad stuff you have to turn into funny, if that makes any sense. How do you balance just being honest on stage with your audience and also at the same time sort of protecting your own well-being? Because you're making fun of yourself. Oh, yeah. There has to be a line where you keep, you have to keep the audience in control, or at least in the sense of where they're with you. And if you're having them following you and relating to you, it's different than just laughing at you. So there are things in my set, obviously, I'll do where it's just involving direct shots of me. But I think a large part about commenting on current culture is being able to make fun of yourself and then mixing the two together. Because without that, you're kind of just punching down. And there's a few comics that can do that and do that well. And that's great. But I think for the most part, to have a true human connection, if you're looking for that in a comedian, it's why, like Richard Pryor, there's a big difference between what he did and other people did because he's talking about lighting himself on fire while free-basing. And not everybody's going to understand that. But the way he paints a picture is you vividly watch it occur right in front of your eyes. And I think if you're vulnerable enough to do that, you're powerful enough to the audience to where they're not going to lose respect for you. If not, they gain it. Would you think that there's sort of an inter-comedian though and in a lot of us when it comes time? Like I keep thinking like, okay, Thanksgiving. 20 years after the accident, that almost burned down the house and people ended up in the hospital and it ends up like a comedy story around the Thanksgiving table when the kids are all grown up. It was horrific when it happened. But then it becomes this family story that they get such joy from. So would you say that everyone sort of eventually can find that inner comedy? Oh, I think everybody has tragedy plus time. Everybody can laugh at that. Tragedy plus time, that makes sense. That's what it is, yeah. And sometimes it's just tragedy and you really get a good one in at the moment. But usually it's tragedy plus time and that's really what it is. It's something awful happened and later you talk about it and it's hilarious to people because we've all experienced that thing. And I love that. I love that about human beings. And I think what's crazy about social media is everyone tries to put on this face of their perfect life and their perfect family. And we all know it's a lie. And that's what I find it to be so funny. It's like you're just pretending that you're... Like I know how hard it was to get that picture of you and your three kids and like I know you don't even like your wife and you know, it's stuff, whatever it might be. So you look at this and it's like, I know how broken you are. So stop putting stuff online pretending you're not. No one's buying it, you know. And I think we try more than ever to put on this perfect face where we used to have to do it for small groups of people just in our own personal lives. And now it's like we have to do it for the world and we're all just carbon copies of each other. It's so true. And something that you said just at the beginning of that about how you have to be able to laugh at yourself. I feel like that's a hard thing to request of somebody on a, you know, just an average person. But if they did find more of a way to be able to look inward, I think that's the hardest thing is looking inward. It's so much easier to just get all dolled up and take a picture somewhere fabulous and make it look like your life's amazing. But why is it so hard? Do you think it is for some of us to be able to sort of make fun of ourselves and sort of knock ourselves down a few pegs? It depends on the person. I think a lot of people are very scared to fail. I think that's why they don't do a lot of things in life. And fortunately, I don't care. I don't have that switch in me where if it doesn't go well, I've never been competitive in that way. Wow. I've always felt that I'm good at what I'm good at. So I'm going to just do as good as I can at it. And I'm not going to pretend everything else. Like I knew I suck at sports. My dad knew I sucked at sports and he was our little lead coach. And he wasn't the coach that was like, all right, go out there and pitch anyway. You're going to be the first at bat. He's like, all right, it's the seventh inning and we're up by five. You can go play right field. If a ball gets hit to you, just move out of the way and let the center get in. It wasn't like this is like, I didn't grow up in a family that like encouraged BS in the sense of like, oh, you're great at everything. They let me know that I wasn't. And then they also let me know where I did excel. And I think a lot of people don't have that or don't want to be honest about that. And people don't like being made fun of. I mean, and if you learn to laugh when somebody makes fun of you and make fun of them back, it's actually a really great time. And I think that's kind of what's good about, at least when we were young, and I don't know if it's the same for the smartphone generation, but like ball busting for lack of a better term, and it involved girls too. Like sitting around and just ripping on each other was just a big part of life. And later on that benefited me when I'm in rooms with actual killers and doing radio, you know, with these people that are just unbelievable comedians. Like I had to have that, I had to have that skin built. I had to have that, you know, I had to have some level of thick skin and some level of a callus or else I wouldn't have been able to survive it. And now I just think it's funny. So it's like take shots at yourself. And there's such a difference too between taking shots and negative self-talk because I say horrible things to myself. And that's why I always find it funny if somebody trashes you. It's like, I guarantee you, you've said worse things about yourself today than anybody else is going to say about you. Because what you're saying is true and cutting. So remember that you really are your own worst critic, regardless of no matter how hard someone tries, they will never be as hard on you as yourself. That is very true. And another thing that's crazy, you just combined radio and killers. Oh, I'm in stand of killers, but I have interviewed some murderers. Whoa. Well, I mean, so tell me a little bit real quick. I mean, I started sort of my career in voiceover, but then went into radio because I felt like a comedy troupe was that whole Saturday Night Live Carol Burnett, the effect of a group of funny people working together. It just tickled me. But I ended up in a room with all guys, the weatherman, the board, aup, my co-host John Lander. And then maybe occasionally our entertainment reporter would come on for like a blip. So I quickly learned how to have thick skin because we just were relentless with each other on the air. So I feel like maybe I did have like you a little training in having thick skin, but it should be something that everyone can have or get for themselves. It would be helpful. Yeah. My wife is like that. There's an I met her at Second City doing improv. And yeah, we started because I started an improv before I went into stand up. We were doing sketch comedy. That's hard. Improv is hard. Yeah. It's fun. It's fun. It's fun or it's the worst thing you've ever watched, one or the other. But I've really enjoyed it. And I love it. But yeah, meeting my wife and some other girls that were there. Yeah, they had that whatever it was. Usually they came up in a house with brothers and I'm not saying you have to, but they had whatever in their life, they had that defense mechanism. And when I joined at Second City, that was part of it, was you are in this constant position where you have to, like playing a character, it sounds so strange because anybody looks at acting and they kind of think it's easy, that it's ridiculous that you can do that for a living. But the reality is, is you have to be vulnerable enough to make yourself look that stupid. And that's really why the best actors are paid what they're paid. And you look at the movies they're in, it's because they're willing to go that far for a ridiculous character. And learning that on stage, which, you know, obviously you have with your background. I mean, it's hard sometimes, but you just learn how to let go and just be in the moment, even though it's just, it feels so awkward and strange and foreign sometimes. Yeah, not taking yourself seriously. And a lot of people can't stop themselves from being way too, like, the more serious you take yourself to, the less everybody else does. Yeah, yeah. Like imagine if I was standing here like, so what do you mean by that? No, I just very, nobody wants to be interviewed by like, and just do anything with that kind of person. We'll explain yourself. Okay, well, this has been fun. Yeah, thanks so much. All right, I really appreciate you giving me so much time. And I feel like I've gone a little bit over. Can you share a moment when you truly felt that comedy saved you? Dave Landau. I will say, when I was in my second senior year of high school, I was screwing around in a class and a teacher kept me after and said, have you ever heard of Second City? And I said, yeah, my dad's talked about it, whatever. And it was the last year, my dad was alive. And I go, yeah, my dad's told me to go to it and everything. And she goes, you're really funny, but you act like a jackass in my classroom. But you should consider taking classes at this place because I think you actually have a talent. So I ended up going to Second City and years later, probably about eight years later, I was doing improv on stage in Detroit. And a guy's wife was coming to perform with us who had done improv. And it was my teacher. Wow. So it had come full circle to the moment that she saw, and she saw something. She didn't just send me to the office. She didn't just scold me. She didn't just tell me, you know, I was worthless. She pulled me aside to let me know, like you're actually very talented at what you do. Because I would get the whole class to laugh. But she was the first person that ever made me think of it like an actual skill and not something to hide or be ashamed of. And then I got to perform with her. And for some reason that's always stuck with me. Wait, can we give her a shout out? What's her name? I can't remember. That's the worst part. I know that's the worst part. Are you kidding? I swear to God, I can't. I cannot remember. Somebody has to know like one of your classmates or somebody. Because this is like, this is probably like 15 years ago when she finally came out. No, 13 years ago when she finally came out to a show. And her last name had changed. So I remember. Okay, that's fair. But still. That's why, yeah. Like it. Oh, right. You got to find out her name. I know. Like, and I know, I know it was like Lynn, but I can't remember the last name. But it's like, I can't remember the last name because her, yeah, her name had changed from that time. But I looked over. That's why I didn't recognize the name right when he told me she was coming. Wow. And then when she showed up, I'm like, oh, wait, you're the, you're like her and my, my dad and some other influences were the reasons why I actually ended up going into second city was because I was finally encouraged. So I should know her name. She did help save me by not just treating me like garbage for trying to make jokes in class. Wow. Well, that's pretty big. And I bet that she would be blown away to know that that is the case. But I'm guessing you probably already told her because a couple of years ago, what, 15 years ago or something. Oh, I did. I told her then and she goes, oh, God, I hated that job. I said, do you remember me? And she's like, no, I blacked it all out, but I'm really happy I told you that. So, I mean, she kind of forgot it too. But it was. That's great. Yeah. It was definitely. If she forgot, then you have a little leeway there. But I still I still would love to know who it was. But yes, in the in the meantime, I just want to say thank you and congratulations for turning your life around and for putting forth comedy into the world because we know we all need much of that these days. And a lot of that, I should say. Sometimes I get a little tongue tight when I talk to people that make me laugh. So I apologize. All good. I appreciate it. Dave Landau, thank you for coming on Comedy Save Me and I would say come back again, but it was really hard getting you here in the first place. So if you want to, the door is always open. Well, I appreciate that. Just show up. Just call us. There you go. All right. And one more plug for your book. That's out. It's a party of one fuzzy memoir. And it's available on Amazon.com on Kindle and paperback. And then it's Dave Landau.com. Just simple. I was very lucky to start early enough to where you could still buy your name. Yeah, you're not Dave Landau dash 123.6. Exploration point. I got so lucky. Thank you. Thank you. No gloss, no filter. Just stories. Spoken without fear. For a son who is not generous, cannot be an artist. The world will be at peace only when it is ruled by poets and philosophers. Listen to my weekly podcast, the Pooja Bhachow on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. Come for the honesty. Stay for the fire.