Family Trips with the Meyers Brothers

NIKOLAJ COSTER-WALDAU Totaled A Parked Car in Iceland

72 min
Feb 10, 20263 months ago
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Summary

Nikolaj Coster-Waldau discusses his family travels, his connection to Greenland through his wife, and his work on travel documentary series. The episode covers his childhood road trips across Europe, his accidental totaling of the Russian ambassador's car in Iceland, and his current projects including 'The Optimist's Guide to the Planet' and a Greenland documentary series.

Insights
  • Generational parenting differences: structured activities and parental involvement in children's play have replaced the 'seen but not heard' model, creating both benefits and potential drawbacks
  • Travel documentation and storytelling can increase global interest in lesser-known destinations, potentially influencing geopolitical perceptions and tourism
  • Personal connections (marriage, family ties) drive deeper cultural engagement and long-term investment in specific regions
  • Smartphone addiction parallels tobacco addiction and requires systemic guardrails rather than individual willpower, similar to public health interventions
  • Authentic travel experiences require creative freedom and willingness to follow stories organically rather than adhering to pre-scripted narratives
Trends
Increased interest in Greenland as a travel and geopolitical subject following political attentionDocumentary travel series emphasizing authentic human connection over tourism infrastructureParental involvement in children's activities as a lifestyle choice rather than necessityGenerational shift in screen time management and digital addiction awarenessCross-cultural family dynamics becoming more common in European householdsAdventure tourism at extreme altitudes and remote locations gaining mainstream appealStreaming platforms investing in long-form travel documentary content with international hosts
Topics
Family Travel and Vacation PlanningGreenland Tourism and GeopoliticsDocumentary Filmmaking and Travel Series ProductionParenting Styles and Child DevelopmentSmartphone Addiction and Digital WellnessEuropean Road Trips and Destination TravelAltitude Sickness and High-Altitude TravelCross-Cultural Family IntegrationChildhood Nostalgia and Generational DifferencesAdventure Tourism in Remote LocationsScandinavian Travel and Regional CompetitionActing Career and Family LegacyAuthentic Storytelling in DocumentaryCoca Leaf and Traditional RemediesGame of Thrones Legacy and Career Trajectory
Companies
RVK Studios
Coster-Waldau praised it as the best studio in the world, located in Iceland where he has shot multiple productions
United Airlines
Mentioned as offering summer flights from Nuuk, Greenland to New York, making Greenland more accessible
YouTube
Platform where Coster-Waldau's 'Through Greenland' documentary series is available for viewing
People
Nikolaj Coster-Waldau
Guest discussing his family travels, Greenland connection, and work on travel documentary series
Coster-Waldau's Wife
Met Coster-Waldau during a Danish radio play, married after 5 months, from Greenland
Anthony Bourdain
Produced 'The Getaway' travel series that the hosts worked on for an Amsterdam episode
Sam Shepard
Played Butch Cassidy in 'Blackthorn' film shot at high altitude in Bolivia with Coster-Waldau
Emir Kusturica
Directed 'Night Watch' remake, Coster-Waldau's first film role, and later collaborated on 'Plaggalk Down'
Josh Myers
Co-host conducting interview and speed round questions with Coster-Waldau
Seth Myers
Co-host and brother, mentioned as having worked on travel show and SNL
Quotes
"I fell in love there and then, and then, and I told, I went to rehearsal at a play and I told everyone there that I was getting married and they say with whom and I was like, I have no idea. I don't know her name, but you don't understand."
Nikolaj Coster-Waldau~20:00
"I reversed into it. I went up a one way street. As I said, I didn't have my driver's license. I was getting a driver's license. I was living in London. I was 25."
Nikolaj Coster-Waldau~25:00
"The Greenlanders, it's only 57,000. But like, to be honest, they are petrified because it's a strange thing to have like, the big military power in the world saying, we're going to come get you."
Nikolaj Coster-Waldau~15:00
"I think it's strange, not just for me, of everyone I know in the US and in Europe. It's, yeah, strange as one word to two."
Nikolaj Coster-Waldau~12:00
"I think that's what we're seeing now. Did your, so you, how were, were, were Dana's schools good about it? Do you feel like, or is it, is it all happening at the same time?"
Josh Myers~70:00
Full Transcript
Hey, Pajie. Hey, Sufi. How's it going? Great, how are you? Great, I had a great weekend with the kids and the Pankas. Oh yeah? Alexi was out of town and so I was very lucky to have our parents come and lend a few helping hands. Are they, do they take over full duties on the grandkids? Not at all. And everything I said was meant to be said sarcastically. But no, they were helpful because they showed up first and my brother in Lauditolia was with my daughter, Addy. And she's your niece, Addy, you remember her? Yeah, no, I remember her, I love her. And they had to play, I think like two hours of hide and seek with Addy. Uh-huh. Addy only likes to hide with Pankayeri. So basically then, hurry has to go looking for him. And hurry's not a great looker, it turns out. Really? But yeah, should not get it, that sort of thing. Pankayeri got into bathtub with Addy and said it was way harder to get out of than he thought. So we almost, he almost just lived there. I mean, he threw a pillow in there and some black socks. Where's Pankayeri? He lives in a claw foot antique bathtub that he was a little overconfident about when he got in. Then, you know, we had a really, you know, me and the boys got there and, you know, we got him to bed on Friday on Saturday. You know, our kids, it was freezing cold on the East coast this weekend. And our kids go to this forest school every Saturday from nine to one. And I will say, first of all, they woke me up at like five in the morning. Because when Alexi is gone, the kids rotate who gets to sleep with me. And if it's Axl or Addy, that means I'm up at like five in the morning. Yeah. And then it was, by the way, the hardest thing about it was that they just did not want to go because it was so cold. And you remember me as a kid, like that would have been my line a hundred percent. Yeah. And one of the hardest things about being a parent is like knowing I used to be exactly in their shoes. Yeah. Quit. And you're like, no, yeah, quitter. A quitter with bad, what's it called? Circulation. Yeah. Like a little white tipped finger quitter. And I just like held the line, that it was a four hour fight because as soon as they knew it was Saturday and what that meant, it was just a four hour fight. And then I got him out the door and Axl screaming that the snow was too deep and he was going to get stuck in the snow. And then we dropped him off at forest school and I just, you know, they're sort of a teacher. Was like, where's Axl? And he had already like for fun gone and like buried himself in a snow drift. Like immediately got him there and he was doing all the things he was so afraid of. When they got home, did they say it was very cold out or that wasn't the story anymore? It was not the story. They also, I mean, again, you know, they're with professionals. We don't just like send them off with like woods people. Right. And so they have like, they have a couple of like little yurts they will stop in if it's too cold. So it seemed like it was maybe less of an outdoor day and you know, they were fine. It was more of a yurt day. It was a yurt day. But then we had the Poncalympics. All right. Which was one of the selling points of like just go and then when you get come home, they'll be the Poncalympics. I was like, we're gonna do the Poncalympics. We're gonna watch a movie and then we're gonna go get dinner at a place they like. And so we got him home and it was the momentum of the day was just exceptional. The Poncalympics were like a little Ski Ball game. Maybe you bought for us. Can't recall. I don't think so. A little Ski Ball game. They have a little Nerf gun that we set up empty cans and they had to like knock over, you know, stacks of cans. Connect four was in the Poncalympics. We put a basket at the bottom of the stairs and put seven different balls at the top of the stairs and they had to throw the balls in. Yeah. Fun game. And that was a real highlight. Football in the attic, which is kind of crazy because it's not very big, but neither of the kids. It's a sizable attic. It's big enough for that to play. If you're gonna play football in that house, you're gonna play in the attic. Yeah. And that was, yeah, it was great. It was a home run, the Poncalympics. And then they watched, we've talked about it. They watched that Heath Ledger movie first night, which is a big hit. And then we went and had a great dinner. And that's great. Yeah, it was awesome. Was there a winner of the Poncalympics? You know what? It was really nice because Ash technically won the Poncalympics. Okay. And then we, oh, we also played Hungry Hungry Hippos, which is Addy's worst game, oh, sorry, Addy's favorite game and also the worst game ever created. But we, I said, like, it's really good because like Addy's still young enough that you can make eye contact with the other kids and be like, we're gonna let Addy win. And so Addy won Hungry Hungry Hippos. And then the boys were like, Addy won. And then she was like over the moon and, you know, yeah. But football kind of in the end was the tiebreaker and you know, Ash again, nine and seven. It's very hard for a nine year old to lose to a seven year old, but he won and everybody's in a great mood. Grace. Well, well organized on that. I feel like your kids kind of go, they have a pretty structured life. Yes. And they do well with structure. And so to have told them ahead of forest school that upon return they would have a Poncalympics, which also keeps mom and dad very involved, which I think is also fun for them. Yep. It was a great time all around. And yeah. Did mom compete in the Poncalympics? Was she? She did not complete. She did not. Oh, the other thing that happened in the Poncalympics was Ash is very clumsy. And at one point Ash was just like running. And he was like, oh wait, I'm just like, stop running in the house. You just like all you ever do is fall. And we're never in a rush. But he ran to reset up the cans and he clipped his side on like the coffee table. And he was like, ow. And dad said, oh, that's gonna leave a mark. And then Ash looked at me and he goes, well, that doesn't make me feel better. And it really made me laugh. And then instead of it being a secret, I said, Poncaieri, Ash just pointed out that when you hurt yourself you don't wanna hear somebody say that's gonna leave a mark. And Poncaieri was like, oh, I'm sorry Ash, I shouldn't have said that. And then Ash just the rest of the day kept going like, that's gonna leave a mark, remember? And it was like got like progressively less funny. And then three hours later, Addy banged into something on accident. And then just goes, that's gonna leave a mark. And everybody was like, oh my God, laughed so hard. And you could tell Ash was like, I've been saying that all day. Yeah, it's delivery. It's how it's- It's callbacks. I'm like, for her it was a callback for you, it was just like saying it. Yeah, yeah. But it's great. That's awesome. And now we have a Nikolai Kostrowaldov. Yeah, I mean at the forefront of a lot of current news as a Danish gentleman whose wife is from Greenland, has a house in Greenland. I think we're both surprised. We were both surprised to find out exactly how tied in he was to geopolitical events. Yeah, but yeah, I mean, we all know him as Jamie Lannister. But he's got season two coming out of the last thing he told me. And he's got a great travel series called The Optimist's Guide to the Planet. Highly recommend. Yeah, and also we learned in this that he has a little dock travel series all about Greenland. So if you wanna actually learn about a place that our current government is threatening to just take. Yeah. If you wanna- It might be his fault, because his dock made it so alluring. Yeah. You know what I mean? That's the thing. You know, of course, about the current family in charge of this country. They're real documentary people. They probably watched a lot of docks to get ready for their dock. Based on the way they prepare. Can't imagine they went in blind. So it's probably on him. You know what? Probably on him. All right, enjoy the conversation. Thanks everybody. Family trips with the mys and brothers. Family trips with the mys and brothers. Here we go. Hello. Hey. Hello gentlemen. Nice to see you. We didn't know if we didn't have any audio for a moment. Yeah. It was nice. You really made us wait there. Hey, sorry, sorry, sorry. Well, I'm all the way in London. That's why. You're in London? I'm in London, yes. I'm just here for two days. So that's why, so just, that's not mine. That's a hotel. Okay. Okay. It's very helpful to let people know that's not yours. Are you, where's home now? Where do you live full time? Well, Miss Denmark, just North of Copenhagen. And we also have a place in Greenland. My wife's from Greenland. Oh, that's fantastic. What you do for now? Really awkward. You do for now. Really awkward. This is. What a weird time this must be for someone like you. Yeah. No, it's very strange. It's, I think it's strange, not just for me, of everyone I know in the US and in Europe. It's, yeah, strange as one word to two. I was just in Greenland over Christmas and New Year's. And, you know, it's a small people. The Greenlanders, it's only 57,000. But like, to be honest, they are petrified because it's a strange thing to have like, the big military power in the world saying, we're going to come get you. But let's just. Yeah, there's not much you can do to plan. Like, so how do we, you know what I mean? Oh, I know. What are we stuck up with here? But. Can I ask, so what is, talk us through though, like I would imagine not your first holiday season you spent in Greenland. What is a holiday in Greenland like? Cause I feel like one of the crazy things about it being in the news is how little any of us know about Greenland or its people or its customs or what it's like at all. Well, it's, for us, we have a big family up there. It's very cozy. You know, we, it all happens, you know, Christmas Eve is on the 24th is when you get together, you have a big dinner, you dance around the Christmas tree, you sing some songs, you hand out presents. It's all very, very relaxed, very family oriented. They have every house in Greenland will have these orange stars, like lanterns everywhere. I mean, it's also cause it's a very dark time of the year, of course, in, in, when you're in the North, we had a white Christmas. Usually you do. Nice. But it's, yeah, it's beautiful. And. I only know because we, we just looked it up really for a joke because somebody was like, like I realized like, I did not know the capital of Greenland. You know what I mean? I don't think most, most people wouldn't know. It's called nuke. And I think that most Americans, why would you know that? It's not, it's, it's just now it's become such a, so, so the focus, of course, because of President Trump's desire to, to, for you to take over. Well, you're making a sound very nice. He loves, he loves orange, orange lanterns. Exactly. That's what the thing is called. By the way, I looked up, I looked up your, when you look for your podcast, the description, and I was so happy to see that you are lifelong brothers. We are. That's true. I'm probably not the first one to point that out, but it's a free feature. I have to. It is, actually, you might be the first one to point it out. Yeah. We wanted people to know that like agents didn't like put us together later in life. We're not a boy band. Yeah, we're not a boy band. You're a boy band. How do you, where did you meet a Greenlander? Is that how, how your wife would be described? My wife, we actually met, which before podcasts were podcasts, I guess, back in the day, we just did a radio play at the Danish radio. And she played, it was set in Greenland. She played the love interest of my character and she walked through the door and I was, that was it. That was it. That's fantastic. I fell in love there and then, and then, and I told, I went to rehearsal at a play and I told everyone there that I was getting married and they say with whom and I was like, I have no idea. I don't know her name, but you don't understand. And, yeah. It's the best. It's crazy. But then we did a movie in Iceland that summer. I was, I suggested to the director, I was writing the script with him and I said, listen, we haven't found this woman to play this character. I just met this actor. I think she would be amazing. You should test her and he did and she got the parts. So we got to spend a summer in Iceland, which was incredible. And then, and then actually we, we talked about road trips. We did a road trip in Iceland. I mean, that's a great place to take a road trip. Was it, was it a winter Iceland movie or a summer Iceland? It was summer, it was summer. It was beautiful. Yeah, there you go. But it was, well, actually it was, it was, it was a horrible. It ended basically with me crashing a car into a park car in Reykjavík, which turned out to be the car belonged to the Russian ambassador. And I told him his car. And, and I was not, it was not, it was not a good look. But, but apart from that, then after that we, and also as a car board from, from something production. So I had to take that. It was, it was terrible. Also, I didn't have a driver's license. So there was a lot of things that were, that were lined up that did not play out well. I hesitate to ask almost, but how do you total a parked car? Well, that's, that's, You got to hit it. I went, I reversed into it. I went up a one way street. As I said, I didn't have my driver's license. I was, I was getting a driver's license. I was living in London. I was, I was 25. And in London, you get like a provisional license. And I managed to persuade people in Iceland that this was a real license. And it was kind of, you just folded it up. And then I borrowed this car from production and this movie we were doing. I was going up the one way street. But actually also on top of this, I came from, we were shooting that day and I was still in makeup. I was driving myself. And in, in my, my character was wearing an all red velvet suit. I had tattooed on the side of my, on my face. I had bloody hands. Anyway, going down this, this one way road, I'm like, oh no, it's the wrong way. And I look, I thought I looked back. And then I just reversed full, I wanted to go way too hard. And I just reversed into this parked, beautiful car. And I look over and there, it's a big house. And there's a guy standing over there. And he's, it sounds like a bad movie. But that's the way he was smoking a cigarette like this. And then he looks and then he runs in and then like 10 seconds, I'm standing up trying to say, oh, God, this is bad. I have to, I have to face the music now. And then this guy comes running out and he's, he's big and he's all, he's beat red in his face and angry. Cause he'd waited six months for this car and he, he's the Russian ambassador and he wants to kill, he wants to send me to the Gulag. And then the police comes and I hand over this provisional driver's license. And I'm going, I'm going to jail for this. But it turns out the police, I can say this now, it's 30 years ago. I hope I did this now. But, but the cops in Iceland didn't know the difference between a provisional and a real license. So I, I, I got off and then, oh, then after, and he was still so angry. And I understand, listen today, I would be, oh my God, understand it was so angry. But I had two bottles of wine that I bought in the back of the car and I ran after the guy. Hey, Mr. Ambassador, I'm so sorry. I hope insurance and he took these and he smashed these, these wine bottles. And I, you know, I don't blame. And then two weeks later with another road trip, I don't know why I, I still, I shouldn't be driving clearly. I don't know why she went with you. I mean, she obviously true love. True love. But then we went to play called called Sneffjilskjul, which is like this, this volcano, this old glacier on a volcano. And then that's when I proposed to her. Wow. So how long after you met her did you propose? That was five, five months, five months. Wow. So there you go. You knew. I will, I, in the ambassador's defense, I feel like if somebody totaled my car and then the way they apologized, ran after me with alcohol and be like, buddy. No defense. It's, it's I'm asshole. There is no, I also imagine you come out, you hear that thing and someone says, oh my God, someone crashed your car and you come out and there's a guy, a 26 year old happy dude standing there in a red velvet with, with snake tattoos on his face going, hey, I'm an actor. I'm sorry. This is not how I look. It's yeah, no. And then he probably takes a tiny little piece of paper out of his wallet. Listen to this. Look, I know how to drive. It's, it was like, it was like provisional here. This is my license. Yeah. No, it's. I feel like I'm trying to work backwards. Did you, I, you had scenes in, in that shot in Iceland during Game of Thrones. Did you go back there to shoot? No, no, no, but I, You never did, huh? But I went, I was, been back. I love that country. I, I, I've been there quite a lot. I shot a movie that I also co-wrote called Against the Ice a few years ago. And then I did this, this whole series called King and Conger a couple of years ago with Ulzer and Iceland. It's been, it's been, I think over all the couple of years up there. They have great crews in Iceland. Amazing. They have the best studio in the world called RVK Studios. It's just like, it's, it's, it's, it's an amazing place. How, how long is the flight from Copenhagen to Nuke? To Nuke, it's four hours, four and a half hours. Okay, gotcha. Oh well. Yeah. It's four hours and 15 to New York from Nuke. So it's, it's, it's, it's gonna be, I literally, it could just open the fly, in the summer you can fly now from, from with United to Nuke. And I, I took that flight to New York. It's, it's, it's, yeah. No, I mean, we can talk a lot about Greenland. I have a lot to say, but, but maybe it's the, Maybe it's not right. Yeah. Well, so I have a question then. Would you have, do you think if you had not met a Greenlander, you would have ever gone to Greenland? Well, my, my dad worked, when I was a kid, he worked at the U S base at the North, and there was an air force base at the very truck. Yeah. There's quite a few, I believe. There were, now there's one. There were, now there's just one. And he worked there for, for, for years. I mean, you couldn't, you weren't allowed to go visit, but I, I was, I was so curious and he would always bring home stuff back, like, you know, baseball glove and stuff like that. And actually a couple of years ago, I, I did a documentary where I traveled around Greenland and I started, I was allowed to go and shoot at the base. So we started there, it was 2018, 19. And because inside this baseball glove that my dad gave me, it actually says that it belonged to the base gym. So I thought, okay, I'll bring it back, you know, bring the gift back. So my dad forgot to bring this back. So I did. And then they, they did a little frame. They framed it and put it up outside the, the base gym. So one, the one, it's just, it's, it was a very interesting place. And it's also that the history of course with, with the, with the U S in Greenland is goes back to the, to the Second World War. And it's, it's, it's fascinating. I traveled around, I saw a lot of the, the old bases that now have been either converted into something else. So I've just, you know, the seas to exist, but it's, it's, it's, it's a long history. It's a very, very interesting. Which documentary was this that, when you went back and did it? It's called Through Greenland with, with, with, with Nikolai Kostov-Older. And it's, it's five parts where I go all the way around. It's on YouTube. You can find it. It's good. That's fantastic. And then if you want to know anything about Greenland, you can, you can, you actually, I mean, I really genuinely think this is perfect timing for this to have a second life. No, I agree. For all the wrong reasons, unfortunately, but yeah. Yes, unfortunately. I mean, the thing is Greenland is so, I've been so excited because they've been moving towards real full independence over the last few years. And that's kind of was the next steps, you know, probably still be part of the Commonwealth, the world, the kingdom, but, but have complete self-governance. And then this thing happens where they go like, what we've been colonized and that we're finally about to get to the, the, the, and now this guy wants to colonize us. Do you think now, cause now that I am so lucky to have you here, cause I haven't, do you really think that this is something that anyone outside of the Oval Office thing is, is a priority for Americans to, to conquer another people? I didn't, but I find him very convincing. And no, no, I don't, I don't think anybody thinks this. And I don't think that anybody, even when you hear now certain politicians trying to bend over backwards to make sense of it. Like none of that is the reasoning. No, I remember cause I, cause we've been, obviously, you know, there's a, there's a panic and then like the whole thing, okay, well he's a worried about the security. Let's, and he talks about all these Chinese and, and Russian boats around Greenland. And, and obviously people live there and they go, they're no Chinese ships. They're not here. What is he talking about? And there's a reason why, you know, the U S, they used to have 15,000 troops. Now they have 150, you know, that's anyway, but, but, but I read this thing that, that there was a, a journalist, a writer went to see him in, in, in 21, I mean, yeah, in 21 to do a book and asked him about this thing with Greenland. And he said, well, I love maps. Look at this. How big it is. Also somebody pointed out that it look, the way the maps are, Well, that's the, it looks bigger than it is. Yeah, yeah. It's, it's, it's, that's the, that's the thing is the classic us in, in, in, in, in Western Europe and the US, we make sure to make the maps so we look the biggest. And now you're really paying for it. We're paying for it. What is this map? You should make new maps where it's just real tiny. I know, I know. Just put them out. That's true. Hey, we're going to take a quick break and hear from some of our sponsors. This episode of Family Trips is brought to you by Wild Grain. Posh had it and even know what Wild Grain was. And then I was delighted. And I really enjoyed using it. Yeah, you and me both. Wild Grain is the first bake from frozen subscription box for sourdough breads, artisanal pastries and fresh pastas, plus all items conveniently bake in 25 minutes or less. Unlike many store bought options, Wild Grain uses simple ingredients you can pronounce and a slow fermentation process that can be easier on your belly and richer in nutrients and antioxidants. 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So he started and he only got to, he built three houses basically and that was it. And we lived in one of them. One of the three houses. Main street number 18, that was us. That was me and my two older sisters and my mom. And I was thinking about this, because I was talking to you and we had, our family holidays were usually, my mom didn't have much money, but she had, we had a fee at 600. If you know what that is, it's the tiniest amount. Yes, of course. Like tiny. And then she would put our bicycles on the roof, which like so the car was higher than it was, I guess like ridiculous. And then we would go either, usually it would be to Sweden for a week, but she also once took us all the way, she was very ambitious. She drove to Spain, which is a long, long drive in a fee at 600, that goes at maximum speed of 50 miles an hour. And she decided to do the, she wanted to go across the Pyrenees, but she had to go through the Pyrenees, but she went the, she said, I want to go the picturesque route, which of course is like these tiny little, you know, sub-entine, whatever you call it. And turns out my mom and my sister have extreme fear of heights. So she had a panic attack on the way up, but luckily enough, my mom at that, you know, she was 40 or 30. I mean, that's the funny thing, you know, when you get older, you think back. Yeah, you can't believe. My parents were like nothing, but she was 38 or something, like late 30s. She was hot. So I remember, I just remember. No, but like, I remember like this, Blanc and Damon going, I don't know what to do. And then there was always so many really friendly Spanish guys that would fix the car, would make sure that we got up there. And we would always have a place to stay on the way. And for years, I didn't understand, because there was a guy who even came to Denmark to visit us. And I thought that was so sweet. And then, now of course, I realized, oh, she had a, she found someone, but yeah, but it was just, yeah. You really, the funny thing is you don't really appreciate the things that your parents do when they do it. You do it like, appreciate it like 30 years later, when it's kind of too late. You know what I mean? Like, not too late, but it's like, wow, my God. My mama, she did that with any money. And she put all us kids in a tiny car. She drove all the way just so we could. I mean, driving, yeah. I mean, how long does it take from Denmark to Spain? That seems like days. It was three, four days. Oh, we had a tent, like a two person tent, the tiniest tent that we would stop. Yeah, I don't know how she did it, but. Do you remember, like when you think back to it, was that trip, did it seem like a fun adventure? It was an amazing adventure. And that was another thing. Obviously, I packed my back with my comic books and some real books, and then that would be the entertainment. And then of course, you would do that thing, would just be talking and singing and having fun in a way. I know I was like, well, that's what you know. I mean, obviously older than you guys, but we didn't have these things. That was only the entertainment that we came up with. And it was such an adventure just to sit and also to see Europe. And see the, I mean, incredible. Would you stop in little towns along the way? Or were you sort of like at Spain or Boston? But I also remember, I remember seeing my first computer game at like some gas station somewhere. They had one of those, one of the biggest ones, you know. But it was the, what was it called? This one? Doot, doot, doot. Pong. Yes. And I was playing that. I was like, it was, I mean, my God. Already then you go, oh my God, I want more of this. Please. I know. And now I can't even fucking do it. I can't take a shit. I can't take a shit without that phone now. It's just crazy. It was interesting. We were just talking about, you know, again, like how, we're in this weird era where like our kids and the adults are getting addicted to phones at the same time, right? Like I didn't grow up with Instagram, but like it has the same effect on my brain that it does on kids. And then, but then we remember my wife and I were like, also we would like play like brick breaker on our, you know, blackberries. It's not like we were like, we never looked at our phone for dumb shit. You know what I'm saying? It's like you said, like you saw Pong and you're like that. The thing is, that's why it's so, I mean, I mean, clearly it's the brightest people that come up with these things. They are very smart and making sure that we get addicted to this. I think it's just, it's come to this point now where you, where I do think we need, I believe that we need to have, we have to accept that we cannot control this. It's, we can't, we need to put some kind of guardrails in because it's kind of like tobacco, right? You go, yeah, in a free world, why, if people want to smoke, well, like whatever, like they should do whatever they want, but actually it's really harmful. And I think that's what we're seeing now. Did your, so you, how were, were, were Dana's schools good about it? Do you feel like, or is it, is it all happening at the same time? Well, it's all, I kind of missed that. Cause obviously, you know, I was, you know, it didn't, it wasn't an issue for me. And with my kids, they didn't have phones on. Well, I mean, obviously when they got into their teens, then they, it started, but they're 20, 25 now. I think they, I think they missed out on the worst thing. And I think, but I know that, that, I mean, you can't, I think they've, you no longer allowed to have your, your, your phones in school, which I think is a good idea. I mean, but also, there was something about how do we, cause, cause I also hate this idea that we have to ban everything. Like, and obviously I think we should ban phones from schools, but, but this idea that, that we, that, I mean, I just, I don't know, there has to be a smarter way of doing this. It like, cause, cause, cause we, why can't, why is it? I mean, cause we know that these things when they do the, so it's all for profit, it's all about the algorithms. We know that, couldn't we just go in and say, listen, it's all good. You want, we want you to make money, but you can't, you can't do it like that. Yeah, it would be nice. I think if everyone's lock screen showed how many, there are daily hours of screen time and you couldn't hide it. So anywhere you were, that was your lock screen. And people would see that you spent nine hours a day on your phone and that that became a point of shame. I'm sure some people would be like, would take it as a point of pride. Yeah, no, I, yeah. And it's, but then, yeah, but do you think that, that the reason that you don't see people smoking so much more is because you have those, those beautiful photos on the cigarette. I don't think that's what it is. I think it's, it's more like, it's a, it's a thing that we all, we basically said it's not allowed. Right. I mean, it was, it was crazy when they just, you know, I remember in New York where it's like, you can't smoke inside anymore. And like, how so many people stop smoking? I know. Cause you know, then there was the shame of having to go stand outside and then they were like, yeah, nevermind. It's too cold. I've been at a couple of restaurants recently where people will be like, just watching things on their phones without your phones in. Oh yeah. And I can't believe that if you own that restaurant or that bar that you don't say, I'm sorry, you can do this, but you need to have head-funked in. Because it's just like you've put a television on your sort of, yeah, table at a cafe and turned it on and start just watching TV. Um, yeah. I will say that, uh, you, I had a flashback when you said comic books in the back of the car, because I remember when we were on road trips, it was that era where you would just go to any gas station would have that sort of spin rack of comics. And how fun it was to just buy three comic books and just sort of quietly sit in the car reading them. We had something called, I don't, I'm sure you had it as well, but it was like, it was the jumbo books. Did you have that? Yeah. Uh-huh. And you know, when you had all the sort of bigger comics. Well, no, no, it's like, it's basically, it's the, the Donald dog, all that whole world. Yes, yes, yes. And it's just like little books, but it's still the comics. But I, I could, I mean, I knew them inside and out. It was just the best. It's funny. What, um, do you remember where you went in Spain and like what the, what you would do when you got there? Were you guys going to the beach or were you going? We would go to, I remember we went to one, I mean, yeah, it was a camping site, but it was right next to one of those, it was a fair, like what do you call it? Those fairs with, with the, where you can go and shoot stuff, like a county fair. It was a really big thing. So that, and then there was a beach and then there was a part, it was not a very picturesque place at the time. I loved it though. There was water, I had a football. Hey, what else can you, that, that was just happen. I mean, yeah, the thing is, you don't need much. Were you, were you, uh, were you close with your sisters? I was, I mean, yes, I mean, they were my sisters, but they were like a little older, four and eight. And, and so, so there was, yeah, it was the annoying little, little brother. So I, I was always out looking for someone to play with. And I usually would find someone, right? Especially, you know, camping sites. There's always kids. And, uh, yeah. Did you, how far from Copenhagen were you? Well, as a kid, it was like, yeah, that felt like a whole, that was a different world. It was, and it was, but it's just an hour away. Do I, but I, I remember the first time I went to Copenhagen, I was with school, of course, you had to go look at museums, but I remember seeing my first Berger king and I was like, Holy moly, that's incredible. It's so sad, isn't it? And then, and then many years later, I, I mean, not many years, like 10 years later I was going to, I was in national theater school in, in, in Copenhagen. And we had an exchange program with, because there was the fall of the Soviet Union. So Russia was suddenly becoming accessible. And we did this exchange with Russia. And I remember going to, and there was just, this was when the McDonald's had just opened in Moscow. And I remember going there and just seeing the lines around the streets in Moscow, I was like, Oh my God, they must have felt just like when I saw my first Berger king. I feel so sad, but it was a good time. That's Tivoli Gardens is Copenhagen, right? Was that, was that a, a destination? Oh my God. Yes. Have you been? No. We have. Yeah. We were there together. That's the best place. I mean, I, that was my, yeah. I've been to Tivoli Gardens a lot. My, I mean, my, my, I grew up in the countryside. My, but my family, my parents were from Copenhagen. So I had my grandparents in Copenhagen and they, they were very much working class. So there was one spot at Tivoli Gardens where you would go to and you will, and, and, and, you know, it's funny, like the different times, right? But back then it's so different from how we deal with our kids, right? But back then I'm, I don't know if it was saying for you guys, you would go in there, you would go to this place where the grownups would sit down. They would order food and drinks and then you're a little bit of money or something and off you went and they would still, they would sit there for the, for all the hours at Tivoli Gardens until you came back and then you would leave because that, why would you do? I mean, it's a funny thing how it's such a, a, a strange generational difference, at least, you know, back then. Right. My family. I'm not, you know, but, but, but, but the, the lives between kids and grownups was, was a very separate one. Like you, you were, you were the classic thing you've, you know, seen, but not heard, right? If you know where. Right. And then it feels like everybody, everybody wins because of course kids love freedom and parents love, uh, when their kids are gone. And now, of course, I mean, I've, I've, I've been, I've like always been so childish. I mean, like I, I don't want to miss out on, I want to, I want to go do all that, which is, is sometimes they go, am I just, should I just, did I get in the way of the kids just, you know, having fun with it? I get stuff like, oh no, let's go up. I want to be, oh, this is what all that stuff. Why? Yeah. There was a game in Tivoli Gardens, like a midway game where you'd pay, you know, whatever it was and you'd get three wooden balls and they had plates, some like nice blue and white plates that were held on by these tough metal clips. And you'd throw these wooden balls and try to smash the plates. And I remember like, we smashed one and we were like, what do you win? And they were like, no, no, you don't win anything. You get to smash it. You just get to throw it for the, for the pleasure of smashing the plate. And we were like, oh, even better. Like, let's keep doing this. And it was so fun. I think it's called, if I translate the fun kitchen, it's basically a lot of plates you just get to smash plates. Oh, that's great. Yeah. The fun kitchen. You're right. What would make a kitchen more fun if you could just destroy it? Just destroy it. Yeah. Rather than do the dishes. How old were you then when you went? Oh, I mean late thirties. We went, I, so I actually, we went on a trip. That was the Helsinki, right? Yeah. So I ran the Helsinki marathon in 2007. Okay. The question has to be, what was the time? Not great. 401. But I've never done a marathon. I'm just, that's it. Yeah. Yeah. Me either. The funny, I will tell you, my goal was sub four. And so to be 401 tells you how hard a marathon is that you, like at no point could I be like, just kick it out. You know what I mean? Like it was just, there was literally nothing left. We had a, so our interesting thing was we went to, we started in Copenhagen. And then our next stop was Stockholm. Am I getting this right, Posh? I think we went Stockholm, Copenhagen. But everywhere we went, they couldn't believe we're, they were like, what? Like when we're in Stockholm, they're like, why are you going to Copenhagen? And we're in Copenhagen. They're like, why are you going to Helsinki? And then like we were going to go and then we bailed on Tallinn, Estonia. And in Helsinki, they were like, Tallinn, but it was really funny. Do you feel like all the Scandinavian countries have a little bit of snobbery about the other one? Oh, well, it's competition. It's friendly competition. It's funny you said, because I went, this is embarrassing to Helsinki for the first time this last year. And what, get out. You know, I know what a great place. Yeah. What a great place. Yeah. Yeah. It's great. I mean, and I've been doing this, this other docu-series where I travel around the world and we made it to Finland and just incredible country. I mean, so cool. Yeah. That's the optimist guy to the planet. Exactly. But it's, the funny thing you say that there is definitely a competition between like the Swedes, especially the Swedes and Danes, I think. And then the Norwegians, they're just, they kind of their own thing because they, they're so rich and wealthy. Like you can't really, that was just annoying because like, they used to be. But even I went to Norway, I was in Norway with my wife and we were hiking in the national parks and staying in those huts. And everyone would meet, they would say, why are you here? What you should be in this other part of the country. And I would say, I'm exactly where you are. Why are you here? Don't tell me to be somewhere else. I'm in a national park in Norway. I think I'm doing pretty well for myself. Like any place in Norway is beautiful. It's like, it's, what are you talking about? This is amazing. I mean, of course. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah. Hey, we're going to take a quick break and hear from some of our sponsors. Support comes from a Fitbot. Hey, Basi. 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And it was the most exhausting thing I've ever done. Because when you do one of these docu travel series, people think it looks like, you know, a life hack because you got a free trip to all these amazing places. They work you so hard. And I'm assuming that's the case for you as well. Yes. I think the first season that was like that was the hardest thing I'd ever done. And we learned a lot from that because it is a global show. But that was the that is the ambition has to be. But of course, that means you spend so much time traveling and it is the travel players are the hardest. But so this season two, we we we wrapped this. We did this this year and that was that we got that down to three months. It's six episodes. And that was that was manageable. But but but at this. Yeah, no, it is it is hard. There's no there's no the people. And so you went to when we're blue. And did you go to that bar? Did you go? I said no, no, I went to bed. Yeah, I know it's the worst. Don't do anything at all. But but I also I do love it because I meet it. You know, it's one of those things where I meet so many just incredible people where you just go, holy shit, did that just happen? Did I just see this? Did I just I'm in India? There's a guy just catching a grabbing a 14 foot King cobra out of a little hut. And I'm standing right next to it. And he says, don't move. It might kill you. And I'm like, OK, it's just incredible. Don't move. It might kill you. And I'm like, OK, it's just incredible. Like that's that's like that doesn't normally happen or you know, there's yeah, I'm the top of a mountain in. I mean, there's so many things that happen in that show that makes it worthwhile that. Yeah, I'm just very grateful for. How do you how did it come about that you are the host of this show? I mean, they obviously had to find somebody who would be down to do this sort of travel and be amazed by the sort of things. Yeah, no, I think it was a combination of things. I know that I've done that little like the little show in Greenland. And I really enjoyed that. I really enjoyed that thing of just having my crew and just meeting people and trying to just just because it's also Optimus Guy. We meet people have incredible solutions, ideas, but it really is about the people. It's about getting to know them more than anything. And I do enjoy that. So I think they'd seen that show and then they reached out with this idea. And then I said, OK, it was quite different. Then I said, OK, well, I'm interesting, but it has to be. We have to shoot in a completely. It has to be as free as we possibly can. Meaning you have to do you do all the research, you get all this stuff lined up. But I want to be in control of how we sell the story. I mean, how I engage with people. And we have to be willing to to follow the story wherever it takes it. So that means that if suddenly we hear someone talking about us, they can another village. Well, let's just go and get that instead of finishing our, you know, what scripted. And they agreed. And that and that makes that makes it so much fun to do. It's also, as you say, exhausting. But but. Yeah, it's obviously I love doing it. So this is so I mean, I feel very lucky. It's doing what was the show's guys. What did you what did you guys do? What was it you did for one episode? Well, it was called The Getaway, and it was Anthony Bourdain had produced it. I don't think he ever did an episode, but we lived in Amsterdam for three and a half years for myself, close to two years for Seth. After college, we worked for a theater. And so we know that city very well, and they just pitched it to us like, would you guys want to do the Amsterdam episode? And. And it was really fun. We sort of we turned it into a trip. Seth was on Saturday Night Live at the time. And so sort of brought a bunch of the cast and a few of the writers. It was like, hey, my brother and I are going to shoot this thing. But as soon as we're done, why don't you guys like spend five days or so. But it was so tiring. And it was at least you're doing a show about like the environment. Like when you do one of those like Bourdain shows, there's so much eating and drinking. And and so like it's like four in the afternoon. And they're like, I remember dinners coming up. You're like, I can't do that. All we've been doing is eating and drinking. Like it really spoke to the kind of guy Bourdain was that he could just do those things like just grind him out. Yeah. I will say we used to do this thing. We lived in Amsterdam where there was this, what was it called? All Night Horror? Yeah. The All Night Horror Show. Yeah. Where you'd buy it was a movie theater and you'd buy tickets and they were, they would show horror movies all night long. And I realized one of the first time we did it, we saw the remake of Night Watch. It was like 1997, but it wasn't your Night Watch. It was the Euromagraga one. Yeah. But that was, was that your first, that's a horror movie. That was your first movie, right? Yeah, that was the very first one I did. Yeah. It's funny. I, I, it's fantastic. It's so good. I met Euromagraga and we did a movie called Plaggalk Down a couple of years later. And he said, don't watch it. You promised me you don't watch it. It's fine. But I mean, you know, it was, it was, yeah, no, I was very low. And that was my, we actually did a sequel to that movie a couple of years ago, which was the most bizarre thing where you, I mean, I enjoyed it with great people. But, you know, that thing about don't go back to. Better to leave those things. Fast, right? They were beautiful. Also that thing, I'm sure you guys sometimes you go back and you look because you know, we've been doing this for 30 years and you see like when you start out and you remember the work you did as being like, this was like cutting edge, like we were so you and your friends. And then you watch it and you go, God, it's old. It's really. Yeah. It's not, it's no longer like snappy. There's not that many shows that last, you know what I mean? Like it's a rare thing. It is. I also think, you know, also if you make something good, then it inspires stuff. And so then when you go back and watch it, it feels weirdly, even though it's the original, it feels derivative because you've seen so many people inspired by it, which is that'll be interesting. I mean, my kids aren't old enough, but I certainly my plan will be to watch Game of Thrones and them. And I'm very hopeful that will, that will hold up. Yeah, maybe will. Can I just say, I just want to shout out because if any, if there are any listeners who are like, I'm always looking for a good foreign film if you're down for that kind of thing, headhunters. This is a movie I just adore. Yeah, that was, that was fine. I know that I think was Mark Wahlberg was going to try and remake it for like years and years and years. But I think it's also sometimes, you know, if a movie turns out really well in a foreign, you maybe just let it, let it be, you know, it's, it's, it's because we all know how difficult it is for these things to actually turn out well that when it does, it's, yeah, it's. You have a, you have two daughters yourself. I have two, 22 and 25 now. Has your, has your career, which has had obviously a lot of travel built into it due to your profession, did they come with you a lot on things or was it more that it was work so it wasn't, it wasn't worth bringing them along? But we, I mean, we always try to, especially when they were younger, we would always try to, you know, you try that classic thing of a two week rule, which is, is really good because you want to stay connected until then suddenly you go, oh my God, we, you know, something always comes, something starts coming up. But we did that, but then they would come out for, I was in Australia a couple of times when the kids would come out. I had them only my wife and another job. She was touring with theater one year and then I had the two kids with me for six weeks in Australia, which was amazing. And that happened a couple of times, but, but no, it is, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's always, I mean, I always tell this story when, when, when, when the, my youngest was, was only two or three, my wife called me said, we have to change this, we have to do something. She had, she had, she knocked on the computer screen. That's pretty good. Face time then. That's time. Yeah. Well, that's good. I mean, it seemed, and then, um, do they, do both your kids still live in Denmark? They still live in Denmark, both of them. And they also, they're both them or have already started acting. They want to go down that path and. I get it. I mean, if, I mean, if both their parents do and love it, like I, I mean, it makes sense, right? Yeah, you know, I mean, I, you know, I think, yeah, it's like, whatever they want to do it. I, I keep saying to you, like, if, if, if you're passionate about it, if this is what you want, if just whatever you do in life, just love it because, you know, yeah, life short. Yeah, it's great. Where would you, um, would you guys take vacations, just the four of you, uh, when you weren't working and when your wife wasn't working would do. Yeah. I mean, we would do like, I would go skiing, like skiing. We love that. I would have done that a couple of times. We would always, because we have, we are this, this, this mix family of, of, of Greenland and Denmark. So we would always try to get up, uh, to Greenland in the summer. We, the South of Greenland, we, uh, we have a place there, a small little cabin where we would go. Um, so because it's always, it's obviously important for us that, that, that, you know, that, you know, they are as Greenland against their Danish kids. So that, that was important that they, so, so we would spend a lot of time up there. And then we have this thing every, every two years because we have like our family is, uh, you know, it's kind of Denmark and Greenland. And then we also have some in England. So we would gather everyone every two years and rent a big place somewhere in the South where it was warm in Spain or France. And then everyone would come down for a week. And that week would be, so we would be like 28 people. And, uh, and then we would have, it would be a lot of competition all week. And so, and then it would always end with the day of the finals, which would, I mean, so we're talking everything from table tennis to badminton, backgammon. I mean, everything you can think of, um, became a competition. We love it. And then, you know, it would be so, it would be an isolated place. So we would, you know, go shop and then we'd all do the cooking together. And, uh, yeah, it's, uh, it's really, really cool. That's fantastic. What about you? Do you have, do you both have kids? I have three. I do not. You don't have kids, but do you ever travel together? Now as grownups or there was that? Yeah. I mean, we'll end up in the same places a lot. We do a trip with our parents every year. We go to Pittsburgh where our father's from. So we go to a stealer game every year. Um, we might convene out, uh, like on Martha's Vineyard, uh, Seth and his family will be out there for part of the summer. So, uh, we try to get together. Um, it's great. And, uh, my, uh, my kids, uh, really enjoyed their uncle and, um, and like being around them, they, they, I will say like, I mean, the biggest thing we all did together was Josh got married a couple of years ago and the kids were very, very excited to be, uh, part of that. Of course. Yeah. Uh, no kids at that wedding unless you were, uh, a cousin or, uh, a niece or nephew. Yeah. Of the bride or groom. That was it. Um, so yeah, so that was really fun. What is the, um, uh, in the making of your show, where is, what is the most stunning place you went to that, uh, you probably would not have gone to otherwise? Oh my God. There's a few, but I mean, we were just in, in, in the last, the season that season two, I was in, in Ecuadorian, um, the Amazon forest there. We went out with a, and stayed with the, with indigenous people. And that was just, and they took us into this, um, with this tree, um, which was, I mean, this massive, beautiful tree, which had this, you know, for them was a very special place. Um, and then they performed a little ceremony, which was, uh, I mean, just, it just blew my mind. It was, it was so, yeah, it was just incredible. So that would be one, the other would be also on that trip in South America went to, um, the high Andes, um, to, we went up to 15,000 feet. There's for this, uh, the sunrise over the valley. That was also, I mean, that was spectacular. How do you get up there? We would drove and then we walked the last bit with the headlights and they kept telling us like, if you faint, we will carry you down. So don't worry. And it was fine. It would be like, well, guess what? I am still going to worry. It was because I once did a movie in, in, in Bolivia called the Blackthorn. And it was kind of a, it was a story about Butch Cassidy that he's actually survived Sam Shepard played him as an old guy. Anyway, that's a different story. We were shooting at very high altitude and we had, we had a horse faint. We had a stunt guy collapse and have to be carried out. And one day I'm shooting and I look over and the, the focus pull is sitting with oxygen. It was insane, but, but I learned the trick because the trick was just coca leaves, just a lot of coca leaves. And I, I'm, I'm, so I'm chewing coca leaves all the time. And I asked him, so this is not, it's not going to affect me like cocaine. I said, no, no, no, it's just the leaves. It's fine. It's fine. Then one day we have to drive from La Paz to Potosí, which is even higher. And the, and this guy, I forget his name. He was from Cuba. He's driving and I'm sitting next to him. There's two other actors at the back and they're sleeping and he says, and he's chewing this kind of gummy thing. And I said, what's that? He said, oh, it's a, it's a coca gum. It's, it's great. It'll keep you awake. So, you know, we go to say six, eight hour drive and I say, can I have some? He said, yeah, yeah. So I start chewing this, this, this thing and we are talking, playing music and we just have it, and we're going and it's like six, eight hours. And I'm like, I'm not, I'm so hyper. But then we drive into Potosí and I'm like, this is just been amazing. And I can feel like everything. I remember I've had a feeling I hadn't felt for like 25 years. Like, I didn't sleep. I know that's why. But yeah, that's really funny. So the leaves are okay. The gum is okay. The gum is okay. The gum is on the gum. Yeah. Yeah. If you've heard the story, based on the story, if you get offered the gum, take it. Take it. Take it. I'm at the age now. It's the only way I'm going to get away with it. Yeah. The driver gave me gum, honey. I don't know what to tell you. It's not my fault. It's not my fault. This has been great talking to you. It's always such a pleasure. It's been too long since I've seen you, man. Oh, no, well, you know, stay busy. Yeah, we all, we're all staying busy. Thank you, and thank you for still doing a fantastic show, by the way. I should thank you. And I'm sorry, we are going to start taking the administration's side on Greenland. And I know that's going to be hard for you. Oh, no, no, I get it. Listen, you've got to take care of your family. I mean, that's... You got the... Oh, I have. I'm terrified. Oh, no, I'm just kidding. And the last thing you told me, come back for another season. Congratulations. Yes, thank you so much. Yeah, that's coming out now. All right, Josh has a speed round questions for you, and he's going to hit you up. All right, here we go, Nikolai. You can only pick one of these. Is your ideal vacation relaxing, adventurous or educational? Adventurous. What is your favorite means of transportation? Bicycle. If you could take a vacation with any family, alive or dead, real or fictional, other than your own family, what family would you like to take a vacation with? The Kermits. Like Kermit the Frog? Yeah. I'm just so happy that his last name is... All these years, I didn't realize Kermit was his last name. Yeah. Kermit Kermits. I'm from a part of the world where that's normal, like Anderson, Washington. Yeah, yeah. Kermitson. If you had to be stranded on a desert island with one member of your family, who would it be? Well, I can only say my wife, clearly. Yeah, smart. What is your dream destination for a family vacation? Oh, and I... You know what? I once... Yes, I would go to Deer Valley, skiing with my family in Utah. Great. Oh, that's good. And again, the name of your hometown, I'm sorry? Chupia. Chupia. If you had to get families to come visit Chupia, how would you sell the town, the village? You know how sometimes you go on a trip and you're exhausted? The good thing about Chupia, it's done in five minutes. It's already over. Check it out. By the time you get there, it's already over. You're like, oh, that was it. And then Seth has our final questions. Nikolai, have you been to the Grand Canyon? I have not, no. Would you want to go? Yes. Yeah, I believe it. You seem like a guy that would love it. Yeah. What's with the Grand Canyon? Just Josh wants to go and I don't. Why not? Yeah, also we have been. I know, but we kind of looked at it and walked around it. But for people who are like, oh, you got to do the whole Grand Canyon, I'm kind of like, I think I got it. It's pretty big, right? Yeah. It's just because you look at it and you say, like, it happened. I looked at it, so it's fine. Like it was. It's totally fine. They're doing a great job over there. Congratulations to all parties, but it's not for me. Okay. All right. Well, thank you for on a two day trip in London for carving out an hour before. Thanks Nikolai. I really appreciate it. Thank you so much. It was fun. Great to see you again. Yeah. And we stand with Greenland. I'll say that. Yeah, we do. That means a lot. Thank you. I'll joke aside, we stand with Greenland. Yeah, I love to everybody in Nuke. I'm so glad I know what it is and how to say it now. All right. Thank you, brother. Bye, buddy. Bye. The park car belonged to the Russian ambassador. He didn't even have a proper driver's license, just a temporary permit. Why, Nikolai? Why? Ambassador Zarkov didn't find any of this very amusing. We'll ride right there, then suit and have some red wine. He offered two bottles of red wine thinking that would make everything better. And Nick, tattoos that also didn't help. As a boy with his family, drove across the Pyrenees. But the roads were a struggle when they had trouble. They were fine because mom was hot. Nikolai has met a Greenlander. He is proposing. What do you mean he's proposing? He's only known her five and a half months. It was love at first sight. It can't be stopped. Nuke, say what? He has two travel series? Nuke, say what? It's the capital of Greenland. In Copenhagen, he saw the king. Not the king of Denmark, but the king of Burgers. It was also pumped to see the McDonald's in Moscow. All Moscow. Nikolai, Nikolai, if you chew that cocoa gum, you'll be wired for hours. Tits!