A Word To The Wise | Reading Reddit Stories
54 min
•Nov 8, 20255 months agoSummary
Smosh reads and discusses Reddit advice stories covering topics like AI-generated wedding vows, seagull harassment, escort services, and relationship drama. The hosts analyze various relationship and life advice questions, emphasizing the importance of authenticity, honest communication, and treating people with respect.
Insights
- AI-generated content in intimate contexts (vows, arguments, personal communication) erodes authenticity and relationship trust; people can detect machine-written text and perceive it as inauthentic
- Outsourcing emotional labor and creative expression to AI atrophies human skills in communication, critical thinking, and vulnerability that are essential for relationships
- Sex workers and service industry professionals deserve respect and dignity; societal judgment often targets vulnerable workers rather than exploitative systems or clients
- Honest communication and vulnerability, even when uncomfortable, strengthen relationships more than deception or avoidance
- People often miss obvious romantic interest due to self-doubt or low self-worth, requiring direct conversation rather than assumption
Trends
Growing use of ChatGPT and AI tools for personal communication (arguments, vows, dating messages) creating relationship frictionIncreased awareness of AI limitations in emotional authenticity and human connectionSocial media vigilante justice through 'Are We Dating the Same Guy' Facebook groups creating false accusations and harassmentNormalization of hiring escorts for social events to manage social anxiety and family expectationsShift in attitudes toward sex workers as society recognizes them as multidimensional people deserving respectDating app culture creating situations where people misrepresent themselves (fitness level, interests) to impress potential partners
Topics
AI-Generated Wedding Vows and Relationship TrustAuthenticity in Personal CommunicationOutsourcing Emotional Labor to AISex Work Stigma and DecriminalizationRelationship Communication and VulnerabilitySocial Media Harassment and False AccusationsDating App DeceptionEscort Services and Social AnxietyRomantic Interest RecognitionNicotine Addiction in WildlifeReddit Advice Community DynamicsIntergenerational Relationship ChallengesPrivacy and AI Data CollectionWorkplace Harassment by AnimalsNursing Career Transitions
Companies
OpenAI (ChatGPT)
Central to discussion of AI-generated wedding vows and personal communication; hosts debate ethics of using AI for in...
Hinge
Dating app where protagonist met ex-girlfriend; old profile used in harassment campaign on Facebook group
Facebook
Platform hosting 'Are We Dating the Same Guy' groups where false accusations and harassment occur
Instagram
Used to share vacation photos that allegedly triggered ex-girlfriend's harassment campaign
RuneScape
Game protagonist claims to be running when actually playing; represents the lie that creates awkward dating situation
Little Debbie
Snack brand referenced in shirt with double meaning; mother unknowingly purchases inappropriate gift for son
People
Quotes
"I think our initial views is like, you give the advice of what you would do in their situation. Yeah. They're a different person. They're a different person."
Shane•Early in episode
"It's the most important thing. Like this is your declaration of love, your public declaration of love to your partner in front of all your friends and family. And it's almost like you don't trust yourself enough."
Chance•During AI vows discussion
"Where is your humanity? Yeah. Who are you?"
Unnamed host•Discussing AI in personal communication
"I'm being bullied by a seagull."
Reddit poster•Seagull story
"She's a human too. Imagine yourself in her shoes and how difficult it would be to make friends let alone a partner or love interest."
Reddit commenter•Escort story discussion
Full Transcript
Hi, welcome to Smoshery's Reddit Stories. I'm Shane, and today's theme is advice. We're taking questions from all the advice subreddits, and I'm joined by two people who you should take all your advice from. Wait. Mr. Shane, I have a eyelash of my eye, I think. Trevor, who has an eyelash in his eye, and chance, 23M. No eyelash in the eye. Trevor got his eyelash out. Thank you. Thank you, everyone. Sorry. Huge moment. I'll apologize very bad. Do you guys think you give good advice? No, Shane. OK. I feel like I just give what I would do, but fair. That's not the best advice I feel like. Yeah. That's fair. Yeah. I think I give I try to. I give an honest effort at trying to give good advice, but I'm not a perfect person. And so if something bad happens to someone that I've given advice to, then that's not my fault. I think that's a good point, though, because I think our initial views is like, you give the advice of what you would do in their situation. Yeah. They're a different person. They're a different person. So it's like, what is the best advice for? Yes. Yeah, for sure. That's when you get, like, I might give good advice to friends, because I know them so well. And I'm like, oh, I understand your kind of situation better than just some omniscient. Because when you don't know the person, like these Reddit stories, it's like, well, I don't know your whole thing, but I can just tell you based on my experience, what I would do. Right. Also, it's like, if you haven't experienced the situation before, it's kind of hard. Like, if you've done something, and it's like, oh, I went through that exact same thing. Yeah. Like, you have experienced, but people on Reddit, probably are just going on there. Like, they haven't ever done anything. They're like, well, here's what you should do. Yeah. Oh, people love. Like, some of the advice you see on Reddit is like, hardcore, like, here is the only answer. Yeah. It's like, damn, you're certain. And different, yeah, different people can move around the world in different ways, based on their privilege. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. All right, well, let's see what advice people are looking for. Like, I move around the world like a bad-ass, muddle-puzzle. Booooorr. I prefer the arrow plane. Yeah. I prefer boat. Oh, teleporter. Kind of the same thing. Yeah. All right, our first advice question. This comes from the subreddit advice. Just general. So it's a good thing. All right, this was posted on Christmas Day of last year. Okay. Do I tell my little brother what his, I love cream pies, shirt really means? No. Oh, we got more context. Audible reactions from everybody in the room. Dude. My younger brother is a junior in high school. Great grades involved with his church, upstanding kid. He knows what it means. One of his favorite snack foods are little Debbie oatmeal cream pies. My mom knows this and got him a shirt that reads, I love cream pies. Hahaha. Mine's you the little Debbie oatmeal cream pies that's C-R-E with the like little apostrophe above it. M-E pies. The shirt says I love cream pies that's C-R-E-A-M. Just so you know, not referencing the little debbies. What is it referencing? I don't know. Oh. Hahaha. Being on the internet too much, I know what a cream pie is. However, my mom and my little brother have no idea what that means. I am pretty sure it is one of those dirty shirts that is pretending to be innocent, but my poor family is too innocent to realize it. I would hate for my little brother to be made fun of by his friends or for my family to scandalize their local church group. On the other hand, I would hate to ruin Christmas by pointing this out. Do I tell my little brother the true meaning behind his shirt? The true meaning of Christmas. Hahaha. Here's the shirt. Yeah. Oh, it has cream pies on it. It has some cream pies on it, but also it says... And it has the cookie cream pies on it. It has the cookie cream pies on it, but it also does just say I love cream pies underneath it. I think it's meant to be like, but oh, I'm referencing this, but I'm not. But the cookie is there. So I think the cookie is there. I think it's a shirt that arguably, like at his church and at school, the teachers or people like authorities would not get him in trouble, but other students would definitely laugh at him. Okay, well, this, I have it. I've got it, Shane. Okay. I think I am good at advice now because this is what I would do, but I think it's really good advice for anyone. Okay, so you just go to the brother in the shirt and be like, oh, they spelled it wrong. That's all you have to do. It's not spelled like the... That's all you have to do. Yeah. You don't have, you can play... Always the wise man to play the part of the fool. All you have to do is be like, I think they spelled it wrong. There's so many other things that probably look it up and I wonder what that means. Lead them to water. Don't pour water down their throat. Okay. Or water on their face. And what if he's like, well, I don't care if it's not spelled correctly. I love this shirt. They need to be like, they're referencing Splooges, dude. Yeah. Not Splooges, Shane. I think what you do is you pull up a video and you go, dude, you're sure I heard you love cream pies. I mean, show them a cream pie. Yeah, show them a cream pie. Do you know what that means? Do you know? Be like, dude, me too. Just get you. Mom got you that shirt? That's the problem. That's the problem is he's gonna go to high school. Yeah. And his friends are gonna be like, he's a junior in high school, huh? He's a junior in high school. His friends are gonna be like, or his friends or not friends are gonna be like, your mom got you that shirt? Yeah. He probably won't tell them that his mom got on the shirt. Or he might if he doesn't realize. And what if they think he's cool? This is really tough, because they're obviously the plausible deniability that yeah, you wouldn't know what it means. I think the solution is to, if you're home for Christmas, like for the holiday, at some point he has to take the shirt off, I think you steal it and just let them. And just let them burn it in front of him. I think you steal it, get rid of it, and then you don't have to tell anyone. And then it's like, oh, like I lost that shirt or, oh, you know, it's what happened to it. And then if mom gets him another one, then it's like, oh, well, it's just over there. There's also the other aspect of just like, he's gonna go try and tell his brother this and his brother's gonna be like, dude, of course I fucking know. Like I wasn't gonna wear this to school. Like I was just telling mom that I liked it and I'm gonna like pretend I don't know. Did he get this shirt as a gift at this Christmas? Yeah, it was a gift for Christmas, which this is posted on Christmas day. So literally, I thought he was wearing it. It's like, dude, my brother got a shirt that says I love cream pies and I, I think he, I'd be like, just tell him. Now watch this, what if the mom knows? Everyone knows, if everyone's trying to figure out what to say. I wanted to get bullied. Comments, honestly, yeah, explain to them the joke because you don't want your brother to have a weird interaction or question by teachers, et cetera, et cetera. So instead of that, how do you even explain that to a brother and a mother with a heart of gold and a pure soul? Someone said this post is lowkey making my entire day but you definitely have to tell them. Maybe wait a day or two, but you can't let the poor kids suffer the way he will if he goes to school and that. Someone said, oh, there is a Wikipedia page about this. I strongly suggest you pull this up on your mom's phone, handed to her and say, this is why X can't wear this shirt to school. See, I don't know if I could tell them mom. I just go tell the brother and be like, just don't wear the shirt to school. Let the kid wear the shirt. He just might get in trouble at school. If the teacher's catching him, he's not fast. Yeah. Yeah. No, he just can't catch him. And once he's in a classroom, he's safe. Yeah, he's at the same point. The rules of the high school. Update between your responses and my little brother showing off his I like cream pie shirt to his grandparents. I knew I had to talk to him about his shirt. I did talk to my little brother late last night and asked him if he knew what a cream pie was. Turns out he did know what a cream pie was, but he didn't say anything because he didn't want to embarrass our clueless mother. He showed it off to our grandparents also because he figured they would have no idea what it really meant. My little brother said he didn't plan on wearing it outside of the house. I think I will leave them out to rest here. Yeah. That's great. I called it. Honestly, yeah, unsurprising like a junior in high school. A boy who's a junior in high school. Yeah, he's like, dude, you know what your shirt means? Like I do and then he was like, you fucking pervert. You know what that means. You're gross. Ugh. Christmas is ruined. He's like, yeah, mom knows me really well. Mom's like, I got you gives you a little pervert. Yeah, you know. My little pervert. Pervert. Like little pervert. Sequel to little women, little pervert. Next year, Christmas mom gets me a shirt that says I love milk. I get things. Holy shit. Oh my god. Oh my god. Our next story comes from relationship advice. I, a 35-year-old man, was caught using AI to write wedding vows and my partner, a 34-year-old woman, walked out. What to do? The partner walked out on the wedding. She walked out because he was caught writing his wedding vows with chat GPT. Oh, no. Yeah, no, that's, oh no. That's pretty inexcusable. That's pretty rough. Okay, how did you get caught mid-vow? She put it into? He was writing his wedding vows, so she caught him writing them with chat GPT. Oh, oh, oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Okay, I, 35-year-old man, recently had a wedding with my partner, who's 34, we've had a stable and happy relationship so far, and I love her more than anything in the world. The problem arose when it came to writing vows. Don't get me wrong, I love many things about my partner, but I couldn't figure out how to put them into tangible vows. I decided to use chat GPT so I can have something well-written and expressive to share at the ceremony. The thing about my partner is that she's very confrontational and no nonsense. If something annoys her, she immediately addresses it with no room for backing out. I also know that she's expressed disdain for AI in the past, but I didn't realize how far the hatred could go. I don't know how, but she immediately recognized the vows were AI. After I had finished, she had this angry look and whispered to me, did you use fucking AI to write that? I was quiet because I couldn't believe she had noticed that and she was choosing to address it while we were on full display for everyone. So you're right, she caught him. Oh, she was giving the vows. She then said that I either speak from the heart or she walks out. I literally couldn't get any words out and she kept her promise and walked back down the aisle, much to all our friends and families' confusion. She's been ghosting me these past few days, which is atypical for her and honestly giving me panic attacks. Most people agree that calling off a marriage because of AI vows was an overreaction and that maybe it was a sign that our relationship would have issues, but a few female friends have said that they would have done the same. I'm hurt and honestly just needed it to help make the day more special. Is it worth fixing? Well, OP, you wrote this post perfectly fine unless you use chat G-P-T for this. Yeah. So you're able to write this out. Yeah, I look, if someone, I think people can often tell, and she's gonna tell because they're just not gonna sound like him at all. I mean, vows are like so, they're all so different. Like some people's vows are literally like, I vow to do this. Some people's like, during the vows, they just talk about how much they love their part. Like it could be a story that they're telling them. Yeah. Like just something from the heart that expresses and like I understand having anxiety of like not doing a good job, but I think that yeah, to use AI to write it versus like just doing what you can from your heart is, that is like really not, yeah. It's also, I'm wondering what these vows sounded like. Like I know. I can almost hear the machinery of the vows. It's just the problem is like, you know, it's tough, but coming from this guy, he's saying like, I struggle with like putting my words together. I'm like, well, then your vows are not gonna sound like you. Your vows are gonna sound like some perfect, perfect encapsulating thing and it's not. And she wants you. Yeah. She could tell immediately, they're sad. It is sad. Also that to call out at the wedding is drama. I love it. I'm so here for it, but it does seem a little extravagant. Sure. It seems a little like time and play, but if that is a call off, but if that's her being like, I'm not gonna marry you because you're doing this. Yeah. Also, hey, like, but it is, whoo. I wonder if they've talked about AI and other parts of their life. He said she does not like AI. Oh yeah, and so he's using it on her vows and like the most special thing that you write in your entire life. And he has to have used it. He has to like use AI. Because there's no way you're not someone who's ever used chat GPT and then you're like, time for the vows, guess I got to bust it out now. Yeah. He probably uses it a lot and it's become a thing in the relationship where she doesn't like it. It's also just like, I don't know. From my understanding of how chat GPT works, is that it's an aggregator from everyone else who uses chat GPT. So like, how do you mean? It's that it learns from us putting stuff in it. Like it's not private information. Whatever you put it into chat GPT is now, it owns that information effectively. But it's like, so those aren't your vows. That is effectively. It's a conglomeration of what it thinks a wedding vow looks like. So it's not yours. No. And I think that's really sad. Write it out, read it for a friend. Have them help you. Have it come from the heart. But it sounds like she would have rather him just say something on the spot. Then do this. Yeah. I mean, like he said, it's the most important thing. Like this is your declaration of love, your public declaration of love to your partner in front of all your friends and family. And it's almost like you don't trust yourself enough. Yeah. You have to trust your love and the relationship enough to be able to speak right now. And his thing of, I use chat GPT so I can have something well written and expressive to share at the ceremony. I think that's him caring more about the crowd and how he's viewed. Then this is just between you and her, really. Like that's all it is. You're telling her, like if you think about the basis of vows, it's like, hey, I'm just making a promise to you. Here's what I'm promising to do. It can be so simple. It does not have to be some sort of, you don't have to write poetry, man. Like what do you, what do you think she wants to hear? Say that. Comments, I'm skeptical. Most people told you that this is an overreaction. Let's see the vows. Someone responded sarcastically as if it's chat GPT being like, but being with you has made me a better person, fire emoji. And honestly, that's growth. We're killing it, fire emoji. Someone said expressive and AI don't go together. She was able to figure out it was AI because AI doesn't have the same tone as you. You outsourced how much you care about your partner to a machine and you're upset she didn't like the idea. I want to say this is fake, but one glance at LinkedIn proves how using AI rots the brain and makes you incapable of critical thinking. Someone said we are so cooked as a society. If you think it's even remotely okay to use AI to write your wedding vows. Yeah, I just think it lose all, it's not yours. It's just my belief on it. I'm like, cool, man. And I don't know. I think it's sad. Yeah. Update. Oh. Okay, I screwed up. I didn't check this post for a while because I wanted more points of view instead of just getting torn to shreds. But I understand why the situation is worse than I thought it was. I've been trying to contact my partner's family to see if I can talk to her again. But apparently she's been staying out of state with her sister. I'm gonna tell her when she gets back what I heard here and that I understand. I'm also going to write new vows without AI and bring her favorite flowers and snacks. I still want her to know that I love her and know her. I will post an update when I can. Thank you all, even if some feedback could have been a tad more nicely put. This is a very recent post. So how recent two days ago? Oh, wow. As of reading this. So by the time it's aired, there's probably been more updates. There's probably been three kids on the lane. Yeah. Yeah, they pump them out fast nowadays. Wow. Yeah, guys, don't use chat GPT to write your vows. No. Don't do that. So our producers have mentioned that there's been a lot of Reddit stories lately of people catching their partners just using chat GPT or AI for just all sorts of things. Like obviously talking to it in a way that like now we've had the story of where a guy's girlfriend was cheating on him effectively with an AI. Like just like talking to it romantically so much. And it's like, that's a weird new territory we're in. But it's also like using chat GPT to like form an argument that you end with your partner. Oh my God. No, like no, we're not doing this shit. I had so many boys that I was talking to like when I'm like dating and I'm like, I can tell your text to me back with AI. It is so many boys. You would be shocked. You would be absolutely gooped and gagged because it is like, I'm like, and then when I get it even like some friends we'll get in fights and I will have to be like, because I know that they use AI to talk to their boys that they're talking to or girls that they're talking to. I'll be like, you need to respond to me right now or I'm going to call you because I don't want you using chat GPT to try to communicate with me right now. Yeah. Because it's not how you feel. It's not your thoughts. I'm arguing with a robot. Yeah. And you're completely removing yourself from the situation. It's also just like, I'm of the belief that like everything is a muscle. So like your creativity, you're like, you know how, how your critical thinking, everything. So it's like if you start outsourcing that and just being like, it used to be like, oh, I'll just Google it instead of like researching and like like pulling out a book and learning fine. But now it's like, oh, I need to form an argument. I'll just have chat GPT to do it. It's like, no, that's a skill. Like understanding how you think and why you think what you think is something that you work on. And then saying with like expressing your compassion for things like, man, like, if it's so hard for you, like write a draft, throw it out, write another, like keep working on it, like you'll find it. But that's like an ability that you have to like build on. And when you lose that, when you give it up, then it's not gonna grow. Yeah. Where is your humanity? Yeah. Who are you? No, well, I was gonna say I've actually, and this feels pretty insane, but I have never once opened chat GPT. I've never put anything into chat GPT. I, I don't think I have either. I just like, even when I was like first like getting popular and people were opening up, I was like, I don't know, maybe it's because I watch Terminator so many times, but I'm like very much like, I don't, I don't wanna talk to AI. I don't want that shit. I don't want that shit in my home. Something really interesting I thought about too, if I'm playing devil's advocate, thinking about Star Wars, okay? Let me get there. Thinking about their droids that they have, their like R2 has a personality to him. He's a robot, but he very much has a personality and he's very much loyal to the programming of the people that he's like, he's like, team Anakin all the way and then team Luke all the way. And so it's C3PO, and in Star Wars, I think it's the Mandalorian, maybe the Book of Bobo Fett, the three episodes that are about the Mandalorian, they go into this bar and it's a droid bar and they're like, there's like droids like chillin' and drinkin' and it's like, oh, they don't really like humans there because we just are like used and abused. Sorry, I'm going on a tangent. But it's interesting thinking about people training their AI companions to be like little droids that follow them around without a physical form. Yeah, it's weird. We're in the future and it's like, we're in the future. We're in the future than we thought. It's way we're than we thought. Yeah. We really like, it's sci-fi underplays how much dumber it'll all be, too. Like just like sci-fi, like Terminator and Star Wars and all these things that show us possibilities of technology, right? And you go, whoa, it could look like all these different ways like Blade Runner and all this stuff. But then I'm like, what sci-fi never delves into is how dumb some of it's going to be. Like just how silly some of it's going to be. And the use is in it's like, oh, right, that's such a big part of the equation. Yeah. All right, our next story comes from advice. Stupid, but I have a problem with a seagull at work. Classic case. Yeah. Where do you work? I'm a line cook. I smoke by the dumpsters a few times a day. We get seagulls in our parking lot. It's a well-known restaurant. It's busy. And tourists are sloppy with their fries. I also suspect the tourists are feeding the seagulls because it's cute even though it's very against the rules. Regardless, the goals do not fear man or god. They are used to people. A few weeks back, one of the goals swooped down and took my seag. I think he thought it was a French fry. I giggled and went about my day. However, it's happened a few times since. I know it's the same guy because he has a dark spot on his chest. I call him the pestilence. I'm concerned he is now addicted to nicotine. He's by the dumpsters at the same time as my brakes every single day. This is obviously not good for him. And I'm getting mad about him bumming off me because smoking is expensive. Do I try to quit smoking? I'll make noise and try to appear large to scare him off, but the pestilence is hip to my tricks. What should I do? Are there sonar weapons such as a dog whistle type of thing that I could employ? Sorry, this is fucking stupid. I'm being bullied by a seagull. He also stole a $10 bill from my coworker. It's very rural so we don't have animal rescues and animal control just laughed when we called. Any advice is welcome. And yes, I am serious. He sucks, but I care about wildlife and he's probably too young to be smoking. Watch this. Stop smoking. He brought that up. Jesus. What if this seagull sends up like seagulls? Do you want advice? Quit smoking. Ding! The seagulls do it in my favor. Yeah. The seagulls kind of like smoking the bear. Maybe it's kind of like, let's say the seagull is a child. Well, I was going to say... Oh, my child keeps taking my cigarette. I care about the child. Stop having cigarettes in the house. I was thinking maybe the seagulls is more like a spirit guide. Kind of like an animal that's coming to guide them. And is trying to take the cigarettes, like trying to put in the cigarette. Or let the bird smoke. Or give it more cigarettes. Give it a bit. Give it a bit. Start vaping. Get a really heavy vape. Those intense ones you have to unlock and shoot. Yeah, or start smoking cigars because I want to see a seagull smoke a cigar. That'd be sick. That'd be cool as hell. Tell the seagull not to inhale. You just like puff it and keep in your mouth. Absolutely. You just start giving the seagulls in. Just leave zins out of the ground. Yeah. Comments. National geographic says seagulls don't like bright, scary, owl faces on masks or balloons. Obviously smoking in a mask isn't going to work, but I really want you to try a balloon. It also suggested mirrors, wind chimes, or hanging like an old CD to reflect the sun. Someone said, I say quit smoking and get that seagull back on fries and off of sigs too. Maybe you can be quit. Maybe you can be quit buddies. It's so nice that you care. Someone said getting him with a supersoaker or nerf gun might help, but you need to check bylaws in your area because in some, like mine, seagulls are protected and you are not permitted to fuck with them in the least. So make sure you check things out before you take my advice. It won't hurt them, but it should probably make them think twice about harassing you. Yeah, dude, you wouldn't believe the seagull bylaws in my area. Yeah. Shit's crazy. Those guys get away with anything. Update. Oh, the seagulls, dad. Yeah, I'm shocked. He'll be in the 80s. Yeah. Now the pelican is smoking. The pestilence was off today due to rain, but I am going to get photos and or videos of our goals for y'all. I'm off a freakish amount next week, but I will try when I am in. Thank y'all for the advice and for the laughs. I've been a bit down lately and it's much appreciated. And thanks for the awards, but please donate to rural animal rescues instead. We clearly need it. They are dare programs, obviously, suck. And do also donate to a women's shelter if you assume I'm a man. I'm just a mess of a woman. It's easy to get those confused. Once again, thank y'all. I will tell the pestilence he has fans, but again, he's a terrible listener and can't understand my accent. Have a great night and pray for me, even though we all know God is laughing at my misfortune. He's not really an update just to thank you to everyone. Where is she from? I don't know, just somewhere rural where there's a seagull. She has accent. Hmm. Could be like, maybe it's like South Carolina, like the ocean there, or maybe it's like Florida or Alabama or something like right there. Southern shores. Yeah. Florida, Alabama, shore. Holland. Yeah. Holland's. Oh, yeah. Corpus Christi. Yeah. I've heard the seagulls in Holland's love to smoke. That's what they're saying. Yeah. Or they like mayonnaise. Benyes, and they play trumpet. Jazz. No one would get them started on gom. I love the moon. Wow. Our next advice. Relationship advice. OK. Don't do it. This comes from relationship advice. OK. Hired an escort once, but we keep meeting? Well, what do you mean? I don't know. Hey, guys, I, 29-year-old man, could use some advice here. I have been single since I was around 23. I have little to no desire to be in a relationship and don't have any plans on getting married or having a long-term girlfriend. I like being alone, especially due to my job. This, however, has raised questions from friends and family about my love life, especially since my younger brother is married and has kids. This started in September when my best friend since middle school got married. I was his best man, and he offered to set me up with one of his fiancee's single friends. I had no interest in this, and assured him I would have a date. Not wanting to add any more complications in life, I decided to hire an escort who we will call Angie, who's 27, 27-year-old woman, purely to keep up social expectations. We came up with a backstory that she was a friend of mine from a car club that I'm part of. Wedding weekend happens, and overall it went great. I had fun, and from when we talked, Angie had fun, too. The weird thing is, she still stayed in touch, mainly through text. The first instance was about three weeks after the wedding when she asked me what I was doing over the weekend. I told her I was going on a cruise, cars, not a boat, with my car club, and she asked if she could come. I told her I wasn't looking to hire an escort for a car club event, but she insisted that it was free, and that she wasn't working. Since then, she calls me in the evenings to talk, and has accompanied me on outings and events. During my job mandated therapy sessions, I told my therapist about this, and he said, Angie may like me romantically. Now I'm not insecure or anything. It's just that physically I am fit, but I'm short at 5'7". Hey, that and I generally have a colder and more stoic personality towards people that aren't close to me. Angie, on the other hand, is taller than me. 5'6", but 5'9", and heels, is gorgeous, and has a very bubbly personality, so I put the idea of her liking me to bed. So really, what I'm confused about is why she keeps wanting to hang out for free. Don't get me wrong. Angie is a great woman to be around, but could this be a tactic used by escorts to keep men on the line, or could she be in trouble? Any advice here would be great, guys. That's good dumb shit. Is she like, is her life in danger? Like, what is she talking to me? That is so funny. Is that his dumbest route? I usually have to pay people to be around, but she doesn't want to be paid. What's the name for free? There's a catch, right? I also understand, like, because like, on the flip side, there's so many guys who like push too hard, don't take no for an answer, assume every woman's into them, and then there's guys who are just like, oh yeah, no, nobody wants to date me. Like, there's just no way. It's like, yeah, she's hung out with you multiple times and she said she likes you. Yeah, but she means as a friend. It's like, just not getting the hints at all, and this seems like that type of guy. He might also be writing this because he's like thinking it's romantic, but he is like scared to admit that he thinks that, so he wants the internet to tell him. I mean, from what he said, it seems like, yeah, she just wants to hang out and get to know him more. She wants to hang out with you. She said that to you. It's like an extreme version of, can I buy you dinner, or can I buy you a drink? It's like, can I take you to a wedding? Yeah, I'm like, that's an incredible first date. I'm sorry, that is like, I would love that. If I don't, especially if I don't know a lot of people at the wedding, I'm like, you just get to go to a wedding, watch these people do the thing, eat some free food and do a dance. It's kind of sick. With a circle that you already know and as vetted. Like, that sounds amazing. Some comments here, she either likes you enough to consider you a friend or she's genuinely interested. From the sounds of it, you treated her with respect. So yeah, she's probably into you. If the feeling is mutual, then bring it up. Worst case, she rejects you and you continue being friends, so why not shoot your shot? Someone said, I think it has been said before, but she is a human too. Imagine yourself in her shoes and how difficult it would be to make friends let alone a partner or love interest. Sounds like she is lonely and likes your company. Sometimes we don't find what we want, but are sent what we need. Someone said, just ask her. Tell her you understand it to be a business arrangement, but her wanting to hang out has confused you. That feels like the best advice. Just being like, hey, like you want to hang out for free? What's, because we started off that I hired you. Yeah, we did that under a professional situation. What is this now? And what do you, just want to be friends, like whatever? Well, let's find out. We have an update. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. What do we think? I think they're going on dates now. Okay. And he's not paying. I mean, he's paying for them probably because he's a gentleman. Because he's a gentleman. He's a gentleman? No, I think so. I think he seems like a mature enough guy to probably take this and be like, yeah, just go like ask her. And I feel like they've been on a couple dates and it's nice. I'm hopeful that it's there or at the very least, she's just like, oh, you're just seem really cool. And like, just like a friend. Like, that could be cool too. Update. So I read a lot of your comments about how Angie might like me, and I took the night to think about all our time spent together without thinking of her as an escort. In the end, I'm sure a lot of guys can relate. I had the realization of mother fucker. She was hinting the whole time. And what made me realize was that after around December, January, we started doing more mundane activities. For example, I was taking my niece and nephew mini golfing and she wanted to come along for that. Okay, well, he's like, yeah, we moved in together and we kind of started this really great life. Yeah. God, and now I'm just realizing, maybe she's in me. Or how every or every other Friday, she would come over and we'd just get high weed and watch random movies and videos after getting the munchies. Or how for the past month or two, she'd give me a peck on my cheek after we hung out. I thought she was just being nice. As for my feelings, I don't know. I've never had a crush or romantic feelings for anyone, so I wasn't sure what it was even supposed to feel like. But what I am sure of is that I like having Angie around. And when she's not, I kind of miss her, I guess. So Friday comes around and we're baked and watching Lion King. The movie gets to the part before the stampede that kills Mufasa and Angie just starts crying. I asked her if she's okay and she said that the scene always makes her sad. Then she kind of just moved over and put her head on my shoulder. The scene gets over, but she puts her blanket over me and stays there for the rest of the movie. credits roll and she doesn't move. I kind of had a fuck it, just send it moment and lightly kiss her on the head. She kissed me and things kind of escalated from there. We had a long convo in the morning and she said that back at the wedding, she genuinely had a good time and didn't feel like she was working. And that's why she asked to hang out again. As we started hanging out, she started developing feelings since I kind of just treated her as I would anyone else. I didn't think this was a big deal, but for her it was. And a lot of things that I did that I saw as common courtesy, giving her my coat, helping her into my car, et cetera, were acts of kindness in her eyes, even though that's just how I was raised. When she started working as an escort, she lost the few friends she had. And any time she tried dating people would sexualize her when they found out what she did. So outside of her few escort friends, she had no one. When she finished school in December and became a pediatric nurse, she started re-evaluating her relationships since she was no longer an escort. And she felt that I was one of the few people that treated her kindly even as an escort. She wanted to continue seeing me. I was a bit confused by what she said next, but she said that she felt safe and calm with me, which I didn't really grasp but accepted. I told her that I liked her, but due to my past and personality, I might not be the kind of man she wants to be with, but she shot that down immediately and told me I was acting stupid. We decided that it really... I love her. I got so angry. You're acting stupid. Yeah. We decided that it really wouldn't make sense to start over and start dating since we spent the past few months together and we kind of just picked up where we left off. So we pretty much became boyfriend and girlfriend that day. The past two weeks have been really good. While I'm still getting my bearing straight and processing my feelings, Angie has changed quite a bit. She's a lot more emotional and likes being held a lot. Like, if I'm just laying on the couch, she'll walk in and yell, huggies and lay on me. It's a bit different for me since any sort of intimacy outside of sex is completely foreign, but I do like it. She also does a lot for me. Like, one time she slept over and I had to throw on a suit for a meeting the next day. I wake up and go in for a shower and when I come out, not only are my shirts ironed, but she had a pot of coffee ready and a lunch bag made. Like, who the fuck does that? A few days ago, I even met a few of her escort friends and guys, seriously, don't judge anyone for what they do because her friends were some of the nicest people I've met. While I used Reddit, she turned to them for advice about me over the months and they were all nearly in tears when they heard about us finally getting together. I told my family and friends that I was dating Angie and they all laughed since they thought we had been dating since before the wedding. So some of your guys' jokes comments about her being my girlfriend were right, I guess. So yeah, things are great between Angie and I. I know I got some work to do to transition to a relationship, but I'm taking it one step at a time. Angie has been really patient and understanding through all of it. And even though she's told me she loves me, she told me to only say it back when I'm ready and I mean it. But seriously, thanks for all of your guys' help with this. I doubt things would have ended up like this if it wasn't for you guys. Okay, why can't we not, I have a question. I have a question. Okay. Why can't we not pay people for their emotions or like their social ability? Like, why is it so looked down, because of the sexual, but I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Mm-hmm. I don't know. Because if they're really good, okay, so they say there's like really rich men who are really bad at talking to people, really bad to going to social events. If you can hire a person, it's like, yeah, this is not like a translator, but like this is my translator. It's someone that I enjoy being with that I can be. This is my really cool guy that I have. Really cool guy. What's up dude? I'm not a really cool guy, he has. But it's like, oh, we're gonna have sex later is why it's probably. That's why it's like the... It's why society has its views on it, right? Like, I don't wanna say good or bad thing, right? Like, it's just like, it's this thing that society is weird about. And we, it's like this legal gray area and then it's also this just like moral thing for everyone. Yeah, but, cause so many people in that position are abused. Absolutely. Now, we blame the people, we blame the wrong people, right? We get mad and we shame. The people who are doing the job, not the industry and society and the people who perpetrate stuff against them, right? Like, it's not her fault. And it gets greasy when it's like, okay, this is legal, but you're not allowed to have sex with them. You can go to the event and who's gonna monitor that and how would you even do that? Right. But if you could do it ethically. But what he's saying is like, hey, all these people are really cool. It's like, yeah, they're humans, man. Like, yeah. It's just because of that. Yeah, they're cool people. Yeah, just because of the like, the jobs people do is not all that they are. Yes. And their job, they excel at being sociable, likable with another person. That is their whole thing. But I also imagine the amount of disrespect that they deal with. Yes. And beyond that on a daily basis. Yes. He is, he sounds like an interesting man. He reminds me, he almost sounds like a, fuck, what's his name from Parks and Rec with the mustache. Ron Swanson? Yeah, he sounds like Ron Swanson, where he's just so like, oh, I'm not interested in you. And she probably was just like, oh, hell yeah. Like, I'm so used to guys who were like, pushy. Yeah. And he's like, oh, I'm really not interested in anything. Yeah. And that must be so refreshing for her. He's, there's an endearing nature to this guy. Yeah. He sounds at least on a certain level, a little asexual and aromantic. But I don't know, like, it sounds like there's just a lot buried down. But it oddly sounds like it was a pair that worked out well. And it sounds like he's enjoying this. He's acknowledging like, oh, I'm OK with this. I love it. Which is really cool. And he's experiencing new things for the first time. And it's so funny because it doesn't seem like, from the way he talks, it doesn't seem like it's something he would have sought out. Like he's very clearly like, I'm not looking to be in a relationship or anything. So the way that it just like, weirdly worked out, that they both kind of fell into it. And it worked so well. It was like really sweet. It's really cool. And you know, the funny thing is like, they've been hanging out for so long. They've effectively been dating for so long. What's funny is they've not had sex or done anything sexual. But I think that's this connotation she brings up of like just because she's an escort. It doesn't mean she's like some wildly sexual person maybe. Like maybe she likes their dynamic a lot. That it's not a big thing, you know? It's very interesting to me. I think it's really cool story. I understand all the criticisms of these certain industries because like, yeah, people get taken advantage of. But it's like, so shaming the people who are getting taken advantage of. What the hell are you doing? Why are we protecting the people who are doing the bad thing? And like protecting the people who are just trying to be good at something. Yeah, or doing what they frankly have no other option. Or would they have no other option? Which is what the case for a lot of them, you know? It's like, she does that because that was a job. That was a job she needed to do to get through nursing school. Yeah. And so he's like, yeah, like she's an awesome person. It's like, yeah, I'm not surprised. She's a person. I'm saying this also as a person who is in the world of both sex workers and escorts. I know a good amount of both. And it's so interesting how they are so not protected. Like, they're not, and they're taking advantage of them. And then they, they are the ones who get the fact for it. Or like, if they post like even there, what happened to them? Everyone's like, you deserve this. This happened to you because you chose this line of work. Yeah. And it's not like those people did that to you. That's wrong. And they should be like under, they should be held to a standard. Yeah. No, it's kind of like when people like shame, only fans, models. And then it's like, who's the dude who sent them half a million dollars? Yeah. Yeah. That's who's fueling that industry. Yeah. Like, let's talk about them. But we never do. Yeah. All right. Our next story. I got posted in one of those, are we dating the same guy Facebook groups? So the other day, my girlfriend asked me if I was cheating on her out of nowhere. I said no, because I'm not, and have never had a thought about doing so. She then sent me a screenshot she got from a random Instagram account of a post made anonymously. In the, are we dating the same guy, Facebook group, located in the city I went to college in years ago? The only thing it showed was a screenshot of an old hinge account of mine. I explained that it was an old account that I thought I deleted after I met her. All the pictures were super old. I even read downloaded and logged in to show her there was no activity. Anyways, after doing some digging, we are pretty sure it was my ex-girlfriend since we met on hinge. You can't look up people on hinge, and if the account is inactive, it's not even shown to others. So there's no way someone randomly found it. She probably posted it after she saw some pictures of me and my girlfriend on Instagram from a vacation looking happy. Ex is still mad about stuff I don't feel like getting into. We think this annoyed my ex, and she had my old account on hinge, and thought she could start something. A little while later, that Instagram account sent her another screenshot showing one comment, saying something like, confirmed that he has a girlfriend. Cheaters are disgusting. I'm not super comfortable with being posted in there, and falsely being accused of being a cheater when I'm not and have never been. So I guess my question is, should I do anything about this? Is there anything I can even do? Should I message my ex something about stop harassing me? She'll probably just deny it was her. Any advice I already went back and deleted the old hinge account? I was gonna say the best thing you could do is then go to hinge and then unmatch your ex. But the post is already there. Now I mean, just so that they see it, because if they're on hinge and they're seeing now, then they could be like, well, he unmatched me. So obviously, no, it's a bullshit I'm doing. It also is giving the ex attention inadvertently. It's like, this is not how you access me. This is not flag me. This is not get my attention. This is not get my time and energy. Yeah. So my ass is report, first off, report to Facebook. Tameda, click those three dots and go report why. This is me. I don't want it here. I'm pretty good about taking shit down, honestly, a lot of the time. I never use Facebook, so I don't know. Or MEDA in general. If that doesn't work, there's a line you can call it. You can be like, you can get on the phone with a person and be like, take this down. Cool. Why? Like, harassment, it's false, it's slander, blah, blah. A million words you can use. I have a couple thoughts. One is that with Reddit, it's always hard that all we have is what OP is writing and they're writing like, oh, I've never cheated, I never would think about it. I'm like, I have no choice but to take you at your word. Yeah. But what we do know is that your girlfriend is so suspicious of you, like so intensely suspicious and your ex girlfriend starting this type of shit. That's a tough spot to be in. I also think that the girlfriend is super suspicious. His girlfriend, the other day, my girlfriend asked me if I was cheating on her out of nowhere. I said no, because I'm not and I've never had that thought. So, okay, so it's, the girlfriend is kind of buying into what the ex girlfriend is doing, but he has an ex girlfriend who's trying to start shit. Yeah. And he says, ex is still mad about stuff. I don't feel like getting into it. It's like, well, what is that stuff? We don't know who posted this, but we do know, according to him, that it's a super old, it's super old photo. So it's not like, oh, he was recently spotted somewhere. He's not, this is indicating that it's fake. If we think about the girlfriend's perspective, let's think about it that way. Before she talks to him, I just saw a post on Facebook that is, are we dating the same guy? And it's my boyfriend. Now I'm really worried. Do I go to him? It sounds like we would all be like, yes, show him the thing and go to him. Because your partner were trusting them first, rather than a random source on the internet. She did that. She did the right thing. I think she did the right thing. Going to the partner and saying, what is this? Because it looks wrong, but I'm trusting us to decide what this is. Right. And he's like, yeah, I don't know what that is either. Now we get to work on this together. It feels good to me so far. Yeah, yeah, there's really nothing indicating anything. It is weird whoever's doing this. Yes. It's weird that they're sending multiple messages and really egging this on. Yes. He kind of immediately jumps to it's my ex. But we don't know, but it would be like, who would it be? And I mean, the question he's asking advice for is should he contact his ex or not, right? Or say something to the person? I feel like at that point, it's like you and your girlfriend have worked it out if you're both on the same page of like, okay, this is clearly most likely my ex trying to start some shit because she's still mad at me. Like, ha ha, let's just forget about it. Don't move on. Don't. This is not affecting them at all anymore. Comments. I actually had an ex do something similar. I was about six months into dating this new girl and things were going great. I posted a picture of us on a date on Instagram. My ex commented under the video. I didn't know you had a girlfriend or I wouldn't have brought you back to my place last weekend. This was a total lie. And I hadn't seen her since we broke up several weeks before. I had even met my current partner at the time. When my current girlfriend saw it, she raised an eyebrow for like one second, but we had spent both of the last two weekends entirely together. So it was literally impossible. I explained to her my ex was just salty and trying to cause problems for us. And my girlfriend seemed relieved. I blocked my ex fully on everything and that was the end of it. But if my ex had picked a day when my girlfriend and I weren't physically together the whole time or I didn't otherwise have an alibi, it definitely could have caused some damage. I can't imagine people being so awful like that. Someone said the Facebook page probably has a mod. Just reach out to them and explain the situation plus show proof and they'll probably ban whoever did the post. Those pages usually have strict guidelines so that people don't abuse it. Unless it's run by a shitty person, LOL. I think the Insta account sending it to your girlfriend is more sus though, but I don't know how you'd look into that. Someone said, the are we dating the same guy groups can be beneficial when appropriately utilized. However, there are many women in them that seem to be addicted to chaos. The admins are pretty impartial and try to keep the pages respectful. I would definitely have your girlfriend asked to join the particular group and reach out to the admins to explain the situation. Just to the day my wife showed me that a hinge profile with my name was posted to one of those Facebook groups. I've never had a hinge, but frankly, I'm flattered that I'm being used to catfish people. Update, catfishing is also like such a tough thing with that. It's like, well, I'm talking to this guy. It's like, well, have you met him in person or is that really what I'm like? It blows my mind sometimes. People are like, yeah, we just FaceTime. And I don't really see them. They're like, it's like camera up. And I'm like, okay, that's the big, that you should see them. You should see them. You're gonna want to see the face. I have to see them before you go to the place that they live if they don't live in the same place as you. It's just so common knowledge. Okay, update. First, I'm not gonna text my ex anything. I had similar thoughts about that as everyone here just wanted some other input. No, it was not my current girlfriend that posted it. I confirmed with her that she isn't even in any of those groups. Also, I'm not trying to say these groups are bad. I actually think it's good that girls can let others know about abusive men and more. Just sucks that I'm being accused of something I didn't do. We are going to have her join the group and try to clarify in the post. We are both going to reach out to the admins and see if we can get them to have the poster band and possibly tell us who it was. We are going to explain that the post is in a city I don't live in. A very old account that couldn't have been active and that we think we know who did it and the screenshots she got from that Instagram account. I don't really have any other proof besides that. Anything else y'all can think of that might be helpful. That's all we have. Oh. But they did the right thing. It sounds like at the very least the girlfriend's not buying into it. That's good. So they're good, but it's annoying. I've never dealt with any vindictive ex situations. But one time I did have a nightmare. And in my nightmare, my ex had hacked my Rinscape account and dropped on my shit. That sucks. And I literally woke up and I was like, and I was like, look, did an Iron Skatecow. Wow. Because I was so scared. That's the one time I was ever worried about an ex doing something. Well, you've now told everyone your weakness. I've changed my password. Now everyone knows your weak spot. Yeah. I don't think I've experienced that. I get sent a lot of photos of people capping with fake accounts and that's not me. Yeah. Damn. Even like the TikTok videos and it's like, they did this to me and now I'm doing this. Or like this text on the screen. Yeah, I'm like, it's embarrassing even if your ex was really shitty and deserves it. I'm like, I just am like, no, the best thing you can do is move on. You're still talking about your ex. And that's embarrassing. I just am like, it's always a little embarrassing when you're like publicly working through it. So obsessed. Yeah. No, the best thing you can do is continue on with your life. Yeah. If you want to be a little obsessed in private and annoyed privately, that go ahead. Like me. Setting your room. I like going and like, gotta tell my, you know, gotta tell my 998 followers about how much I hate my ex. Yeah, get them. All right, our final story. Told girl I've been running. Now she wants to run with me. She's a triathlete. And I'm such a fragile person. I'm just kidding. She came with me. She came with me. I, 28 year old male, got myself into a George Costanza ask situation here where I told this girl, who's 27, I've been talking to for a few months that I've been running and training. When instead, I mostly just play runescape and chill. Oh, no. Dude. Oh, no. I've been playing so much runescape. Oh, no, no, no. I've lost a significant amount of weight just by cutting soda out of my life and just eating healthier. So she's really bought it. Anyway, this girl is literally a national triathlete one competitor and overall athletic person. Now she sent me a text saying she wants to run together Saturday. And I have no idea how I'm going to do this because she wants to run 3.6 miles together as her warm up for her long run. Do I just fall and die or something? Run the 3.6 miles. Run that 3.6 miles, dude. Yeah. Go it together and run it. Now, I mean, so here's what you do. The obvious solution here is, what day was the run? Whatever the night before the run is, you just have to go get really hammered. And then you'd be like, hey, can we take it slow this morning? I had so much to drink last night. I had so many beers. I had so much to drink last night. Can we take it slow? Just drop the pace a little bit and then you power through. I feel like it's just easy also just to make an excuse and just be like, I can't this Saturday. No. And then you do start running today. I'd be prepared for next Saturday. I think he's got to do it. He said he's been doing it. He said he's been doing it. This is what you get. You duck your own grave. Oh my. That's when he shows up and he's like, ah, yeah, sorry if I'm a little slow. I already ran 20 miles today. Yeah. And it's more of a cool down. It's more of a cool down here to where we're going to run from. So cool down for me. I ran like 100 miles over the last few days. But he's like, he's been talking to this girl for a few months. I think it implies like he is interested in her. He's saying he's running because she's into running. So it's like, dude, when you lie, you are in the George Costanza-esque situation where you lie and then someone innocently kind of calls your bluff. And now, yeah, you're in a bind. He was going to have to keep lying forever. It's a great opportunity to build a new healthy habit. Yeah, man. That was born out of a lie. You're going to start running. But you're going to start at 3.6 miles. That's brutal. Yeah. Fuck. Comments in quotations. I didn't say I ran far. Oh, he said, LMAO, thank you. I ran to the fridge. I never run to the fridge. So to water. To get water. Yeah. Dude, I ran from fallow or all the way to Varro. Nice. Someone said start, time to start biking. Someone said, LOL, this may be chuckle. Go on the run with her. The exercise will do you good. Maybe the two of you will bond over this experience and she'll find it in during when you tell her that you claim to be a runner to impress her. Good job on your weight loss, by the way. Update. While this is a real scenario and actually my life right now, I just want everyone to know that I'm going to harness all of high school slash collegiate athleticism as a wrestler and just jog with her until I'm gassed. Ha ha. I'm going to bed, but I'll come through the comments tomorrow and respond to the ones that help. Well, we don't have those responses. It's just, that's it. All right, he's going to go on the run. Yeah. I wonder what's going to happen. Hey, he's going to get level 99 agility, IRL. This was posted back in April, so he's probably dead. He probably died on that run. And that's OK. And that's OK, because... At least he died doing what he loved. Doing what he loved. Yeah. A triathlete. So, that was awesome. Thanks for being here. Thanks for having me. I feel like I didn't give any advice. I don't think I gave a lot of advice either. That's good. That's fine. That's good, I think. Yeah. That's better for everyone that I didn't give any advice. Thank you all for watching. You can give your advice down below on some of these stories. And let us know whether the themes and subreddits you want us to cover on this show. And we'll see you next Saturday. Bye.