Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast

Ep 608 - WrestleMania (feat. Cody Rhodes)

73 min
Apr 13, 20266 days ago
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Summary

Cody Rhodes discusses his wrestling career, WrestleMania preparation, and upcoming match against Randy Orton and Pat McAfee. The conversation covers wrestling history, training methods, celebrity involvement in wrestling, and personal anecdotes about his family's wrestling legacy and recent entertainment ventures.

Insights
  • Celebrity involvement in wrestling events (like Pat McAfee at WrestleMania) follows a historical pattern dating back to the original WrestleMania with Mr. T and Liberace, serving as a proven draw mechanism
  • Modern WWE developmental system (Performance Center) is more structured and athlete-focused than traditional territory-based training, with specialized facilities for recovery, agility, and high-spot practice
  • Wrestling success depends heavily on crowd psychology and storytelling rather than just athletic ability; the ability to 'get over' with audiences determines who owns a move or catchphrase in wrestling culture
  • Second-generation wrestlers face unique challenges balancing nepotism perceptions with legitimate skill development, requiring intentional positioning and audience buy-in
  • The suspension of disbelief in wrestling requires sincerity and genuine conflict narrative to maintain audience engagement, particularly in high-profile matches
Trends
Celebrity crossover talent integration into major wrestling events as mainstream entertainment strategyShift from chemically-enhanced bodybuilding aesthetic to diverse athlete body types in professional wrestlingIncreased emphasis on athlete wellness and injury prevention through specialized training facilities and recovery protocolsMulti-generational wrestling families leveraging legacy while establishing individual credibility in the industryEntertainment industry convergence: wrestlers appearing on sports broadcasts (College GameDay) and athletes appearing in wrestling eventsContent creation and podcast appearances becoming standard promotional tool for wrestling personalitiesNarrative-driven wrestling storytelling emphasizing character development over pure athletic spectacle
Topics
Companies
WWE
Primary employer and platform for Cody Rhodes; discussed extensively regarding developmental system, wellness policy,...
NXT
WWE's developmental system mentioned as modern training infrastructure with Performance Center facilities for wrestle...
OVW
Traditional wrestling territory where Cody Rhodes trained early in his career before modern Performance Center system
People
Cody Rhodes
Guest discussing his wrestling career, WrestleMania preparation, and upcoming match against Randy Orton and Pat McAfee
Dusty Rhodes
Cody's father; discussed as legendary wrestler and influence on Cody's career and storytelling approach
Randy Orton
Cody's opponent at WrestleMania; described as mentor with nearly two decades of history and shared legacy group exper...
Pat McAfee
College GameDay personality inserted into WrestleMania main event; subject of discussion regarding celebrity involvem...
Shawn Michaels
Mentioned as head coach at WWE Performance Center and one of greatest in-ring performers; credited with DX influence
The Undertaker
Discussed for his dramatic return at WrestleMania with physical agility despite recent surgery; mentioned winking at ...
Hardcore Holly
Cody's early tag team partner who taught him training and nutrition; described as tough mentor figure with grumpy rep...
Hulk Hogan
Referenced for popularizing the 'Hulk Up' move and establishing wrestling's pattern of who gets credit for moves
Rick Flair
Mentioned for the 'Fargo strut' move and as example of wrestling move attribution and legacy
Andrew Schultz
Appeared in Street Fighter movie with Cody; discussed as special talent who can make people laugh and deliver sincere...
Jelly Roll
Introduced to wrestling by Cody Rhodes; now full-blown wrestling fan and part of their entertainment circle
Kirby Smart
Referenced for passionate locker room speeches with profanity; discussed as example of motivational coaching
Nick Saban
Mentioned in context of College GameDay appearance and serious coaching demeanor
Matt
Co-host of Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast; discussed training and fitness background
Shane
Co-host of Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast; discussed stand-up comedy bombing experiences
Quotes
"Wrestling has more than one royal family. And it's all about the hearts, the McMahons, the Guerreros, and finally getting a little, hey, the roads are here, dude."
Cody RhodesMid-episode
"Whoever gets it over, whoever made it famous, it becomes theirs. In wrestling, the rule is whoever got it over, it's theirs."
Cody RhodesMid-episode
"You cannot convince me he's not magical. He lost his lights and saved my WrestleMania."
Cody RhodesDiscussing The Undertaker
"I'm a nepo baby in the business. Lots been handed to me. I've, this is a type of crowd that wouldn't take to me."
Cody RhodesDiscussing Philadelphia crowd
"The system they have down there with the performance center now is designed for the NIL athlete because they're used to it. When I came up, you were just doing it yourself."
Cody RhodesDiscussing training evolution
Full Transcript
Wow, wow Wes. Hey, you're not masturbating in here, are you? What up, big guy? Anything else you wanna say that you don't love? What are you doing? What are you doing? I was just gonna say, I love that man. I don't really know. You didn't hear it, man. You didn't hear it. You didn't hear it. You didn't hear it. You didn't hear it, man. You didn't hear it, man. Oh man. Don't put the belt on me. No, no, no. This is a... You got quite a scene in here. Let's see what's going on. I'm gonna do it with this chubby... No, this is free spirit, isn't it? Hey, watch me when I rise and fall already, big guy. Oh man. It's pretty good. Well, thanks for having me in your home, man. You're so much used to stuff that. This is the type of energy I need. This is my guy. Alright, man, where are you going to do this pod? What are we going to do? I'm sure you don't have a TV. Why do you have it so loud? You're right here. Oh man, I love this. Alright, man, let's go to work. Yeah, I'll be up covered. How does it feel? I don't know. That was the last thing you expected me to see. The bag's on you. Hello. The bear's gonna cry. The bear. Are you crying? I'm not crying, dude. I'm just very surprised. A good surprise. Yeah, it's a nice surprise, dude. It was tough to keep you out. Normally you're asleep by one. So I thought we could sneak in there while you'd still be asleep. Yeah, it'd be nice. Instead, he tried to go to the gym this morning and I had to be like, no dude, get back in your room. I have a meeting. He was like, oh, okay. I have a meeting works really well on a lot of people. I have a comment. I don't think it's even the parlance anymore, but I have one where I tell my one buddy and he knows. I'll be like, I gotta zoom. And the zooms, I don't think people are even zooming anymore, but he knows that just keeps up believing. I gotta go. It's a good move. What's going on? Thanks for coming. Appreciate you. We're in Austin, huh? Yeah, this is it. My dad grew up in East Austin and I feel like I forget that. And I feel bad because I'll come into town. I got two nephews who are at the University of Texas. Just forget to say hi. Breeze right over them. You can say hi to them today. Nope. You guys are fucking zoom meeting. David, dad's from East Austin. You know that? Yeah, no, he was from East Austin. His whole story coming up in Austin was just like, especially when he got into his wrestling career and the American dream, he was a plumber son. My grandfather, Virgil, was a plumber. But the story he would tell and you see it in a lot of the old territory wrestling interviews is that they were down on their luck style plumber. But my mom knows better that he was a non-union plumber who was killing it. He was doing very well and dusty. My dad was like his pride and joy. You see all these pictures of him in like full-blown brand new cowboy outfits and like the red wagon and everything. I mean, they weren't super, super rich or anything like that, but it's funny to hear the story as it's told later in my dad's career because, you know, I'm the common man that, you know, when I was a plumber, I came up on the streets. Yeah. There's some elements of that, I don't know about, you know. There's a lot of big, like, my life ends up very much. Have you seen the movie Big Fish? Yes. Okay, so my life, I felt like that movie hit me in a way that no movie has ever hit me. When my dad passed away and we were at his service, it is literally like the scene in Big Fish where you realize, man, a lot of this stuff was real. Like, a lot of these stories were jeez, like, these characters are it's accurate, which is a crazy thing to think, but yeah, he's the lore that was there. You're just calling him out in that one detail. Well, this is what's, I don't mind it because like, hey, he's a plumber son. They grew up on a colleague. Technically. Sell the story. It's real, it's real, but I always laugh, like my mom knows a little better on that, how he was, he was treated very well, you know. Yeah. Yeah. I like to hit my dad with that. My dad, I like to tell him he was fake poor. He loves crying poor. I'm one of 10. We didn't have a pot to pit. You know, all that shit's like, bro, you're a spoiled dude. Shut up. We call it a spring scene. When you pretend to be more working class than you are. It's pretty spring scene. I feel like that's maybe all generational. Yeah. Is they seem to, for how bad it was, it seemed to get everything they ever wanted. You know, everybody got the big family and everything and I get it. College was 20 bucks. House was $150. They're doing great. And then so, because we're talking about your hours, sleeping hours, what's what, when are you up? When are you down? That's a good question. Lamar, when are you up? When are you down? Why are you talking to me? This is actually important. What are you trying to talk shit about? Lamar, we've got, we've got guys in our group that run at a completely different speed that they're, you know, if you text them at 7am, you'll receive a reply at 1pm. That's when he's up. Most of the squad. Okay. Yeah. That's the way the rest of the squad is. See, I'm from like a different, I think I'm misplaced in time. I'm up super early. I'm a total goody two shoes. I'm also real. Let everyone know. I'm working real hard here. Like it's most of the guys who wake up early, let everyone know they're up. Everyone goes, just, you know, I'm awake right now. I do it every single time. It's the best. I love to like, because we were just filming a TV show and I had to wake up every day, like six, every day I would text all my friends, like, dude, wake up, you bombs, dude. The struggle, man. Yeah, rising grind. Christ, I'm already working. There is something beautiful getting up early in the morning. There's a whole day that you don't, that's just nice. It's awesome. I discovered the super old man thing that I do. I was describing it as maybe the most old man thing I do. We just went to the beach with my girls and I go down to the beach right when the, the, guess the chair part, like the chair person opens and I'm there waiting to get my beach chairs and then I put stuff in the chairs so that people know these are taking, these are taking. These are taking. And I was standing around with a group of men that were much older and talking about things a lot different than what I would be talking about and I thought, this is, yeah, this is where I'm supposed to be. Yeah, this is me. Now I have two little kids. Any chance you can get to just like get it like a solo 15 minutes is pretty nice. I would wake up, we're at the beach, I wake up, like, I got to set the tent up now. I'm going to set it up. It's nice too, you're like, oh, it's probably low tide now. I'm going to push it back a little, high tide's coming. Start gauging the tides. I know the tides. Bro, I love that. I don't know how long this lasts or when they go back out. No clue. You're thinking about the tides. Got him. That's the type of talk I want. I just make it up. I go out there and just go like, yeah, probably low tide coming. This is my theory on it. You guys, with your kids, you can be wrong about everything all the time. To your little kid, you can go, the sun explodes at night. There we go. Holy shit. But then they start going to school and then they start calling. I think for like six years, you have just like, I've never been wrong. No, you haven't been wrong in six years. I can say anything. Complete free reign. Tides are going to be gone in 20 minutes. Yeah, I'm running up against kindergarten right now. She's debunked a couple of things and I'm like, yeah, well, your teacher doesn't know. Investigators, she's starting to find out some things. Yeah, you're undefeated for a while. Yeah, you're undefeated. But it's also to the tides thing just to get back. You're not totally wrong. I feel like you may not know exactly what you mean. It was like low tide, high tide. There's something to what you're saying that's accurate. Water's coming in. Water's going to happen. I'd be surprised if anybody here knew the timing. Like how long is it a high tide and low tide? See, I got to observe. Are you talking like 12 hours or? No, it's like, I think it's every... I know the moon controls the tide. Moon controls the tides. That's all you need. One fact. I can talk tides. I look at wet sand and if I see the waves aren't exactly making it to the wettest point, I go, tide must be going out. Yeah. Man, you're undefeated right now. What I would have liked when we visited La Mer's room was for you to see he has a secret cabinet of his guys. A shrine. He has a shrine of guys. He's like, down the shrine, you got made fun of him too much. What was the shrine? You started getting some pussy in there. Yeah, just like that. Get the shrine. La Mer, what was the shrine? It was like a... It was like a... Oh, see? Yeah, he had the figures in there. We were like, La Mer, dude, it's time to put down the figures. But he had them hidden in one of the cabinets. What... Honestly, why did you put him down? I don't know. I just... I'll tell you, if you have a lady friend in there, be you. You figure it up, man. Bro. You went in there, you can't... You can't be himself if a woman's in there. I mean... You can't go on watching cartoons and playing on my video game. It was a lot of... I noticed a lot of sensory overload. TV was jacked up. On a documentary. And then you were playing your RGB. When you were deep in that, obviously, there... Cannabis swirl in the air. A lot of weed. As well. And then like a very makeshift cleaning system where things were stacked. Yeah, yeah, he's waiting to clean. He stacks them weakly. I'm on my way to cleaning. It's like the rings of a tree. You can see the last time he cleans. The layers of trash. That was April. Oh man. Well, be proud of your figures, man. Yeah. Yeah, don't be afraid of that. I am jealous. My nephew has all my figures now. Yeah. And I saw him and I was like, fuck, I was wondering where those went. I want them back, dude. Did you take them back? I should. Any grails in there? Anything that was real? I was a big DX guy. So I was like... When I saw the DX figures, I was like, damn, I wish I had those guys back. It's still cold, obviously. It's a classic. What was it about DX that you... Was it them just... They were just being bad boys. Sound suck it. Suck it was incredible. Suck it was huge. That was the biggest. I don't know what the... That was R6-7. Yeah, it was. Every single kid of the camera was on. I don't know if that... Like what genius, if that was X-Pok himself or there's just like an absolute genius somewhere, that was like, here's what we're going to do because that was one of my favorite things. Do you know who came up with suck it? So I think if you kind of pull the thread on suck it, there's going to be a two or three guys who try to say it was them because at first people were doing a crotch chop and DX classic WWE style. Let's market this. We'll just be bossing our arms. And it's a whole another thing. I'm going to say it's someone... It's a X-Pok. Probably if anything, Shawn Michaels would get the credit for it because he was doing this kind of before, but it's like the Fargo strut, which is what Rick Flair does, that whole deal. If you really look at it, it's hard to always determine who came up with it first. More wrestling, the rule is whoever got it over, whoever made it famous, it becomes theirs, especially in like the 70s and 80s. They were just Bob Dylan songs, just straight ripping the lyrics and putting them into promos. They would do similar stuff in different territories, but there's no cable at the time. Whoever marketed and patented, prime example, Hulk Hogan's Hulk Up, every wrestling babyface pretty much used to do the hit ya, nope, not anymore. And they'd start coming back, start coming back, and then he made it such a big thing. The Hulk Up was so the finger point that nobody else could do it anymore. And if you do it today, you're like a crazy person. You try to Hulk Up at any point, even though that was a common babyface, basically they'd be selling, hey, I'm done with you, hidden me. Like now I'm coming back and the crowd could feel it. But yeah, wrestling, whoever gets it over, it's theirs. So it's pox pretty much. I'd say so. Yeah. That's awesome. I think Tony Ayo came up with, you can't see. Yeah. You don't think so. Hold on. Here we go. Lamar's activated. I mean, like by the rules, John Cena got it more over, you know, I don't know Tony Ayo did it in a, in and like get rich or die trying. But John seems to be doing it for 20 plus years, you know, where do you stand on? I think you're going to be the, the, you're going to be the boat. Where is it? It's John, right? You're taking it from me. I'm going to have him breaking your room later this week. How many people go in his room, by the way, was that not many? You're one of the most people to all make it back. That's a tough. Ladies refuse. Ladies do not go in. I'm honored. Yeah. I said, because I saw you at the Austin show you came to, right? Was it? Yeah. Heck yeah. Good time, man. This episode is brought to you by price picks, a preferred partner of the NBA. Oh yeah. The regular season is wrapped up in the NBA playoffs are finally here. And there's no better way to cash in on that high flying hoops action than prize picks. 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You got jelly rolling to it. Yeah. So you're responsible for, because jelly is like full blown wrestler now. Yeah. Jelly loves it. How did you get them into it? We were, we were in this car during the national festival and we were smoking and then we're hanging out. And then I was like, we're all roles on Monday. And I was like, I would like to go and he was like, you should go. He saw, it was a Harley. I think was doing the guest and he was like, dude, I want to do that. And I was like, bro, you should definitely do that. Damn. Thank you. Validate. And jelly rolls are a big part of what we do now. Yeah. Thank you. So that was La Mer. The guy, the guy who's sitting next to a guy going, I think I'm going to do that. And he goes, yeah, you should. Yeah. That was all me. Yeah. But you got to come to Mania, man. It's Vegas. Oh, how did it come to Mania? But did you, did you get, you got into it because of? He got me into it for a minute. It was, it was during WrestleMania. And I was like, man, turn this fucking, I don't like watching wrestling, turn this off. And then I started watching it and I was like, oh, and then we were watching it. Actually, I watched the last few manias when yours, when a taker came back and like all that, I was laying on this couch. Yes, I was laying on the couch and then when the lights went out and taker came back, I was like, Everything came back. I was like, oh, shit. He, I've told this story before, but he ran to the ring with two brand new, I believe either hips or knees. He just had double and this was the first time he'd run. But the blackout when we do it in the stadiums or in the arenas, it's not full like it is on TV. It's, you can see a bit and he rolled in the ring in a way that he could have probably killed a full blown lion. He had such testosterone and I mean, he was so ready to be standing up. And for that moment, it was incredible just to see how agile is why I'm such a great athlete, agile he was. But then again, in the moment he hits the choke slam on rock and I told him when he was on my podcast, but I can't believe it happened this way. He literally looked over to me and I think I missed the moment a little bit because I think he was looking for a little bit. I got you kid. Sheriff's leveled the playing field there, but I was just half dead from whatever Roman and I had done, but he completely just winked at me. Lights went out. I, I, I was in. I was so like, man, it's again, like the big fish element of it with what we do, the suspension of disbelief, what's real, what's not, you cannot convince me. He's not magical. He's so sick. He lost his lights and saved my WrestleMania. So do you know that's how my Eagles love all that all started? No, I had no idea. Okay. So I bounced around in FL wise. I'm from Georgia. I'm from Marriott of Georgia. So as far as teams to root for in Georgia that are safe, the bulldogs in Athens can never go wrong with the UGA, the Braves, the Braves are going to consistently be a good team. I got really into the Falcons as a kid. Michael came on board. That's awesome. Two season tickets sold out. I was wearing that number seven jersey every day. I was all about it. And then the worst thing that could have possibly happened in the state of Georgia. Yeah. And then we fell off as a fandom. And then of course, Maddie ice and the comeback. So I always loved my home team, but I never, I was never fully juiced in my sister, my oldest sister. She ended up her big dream growing up. She wanted to cheer for the Cowboys. So she cheered for the Cowboys for two seasons. So most of my family are Cowboys fans, but I never really had a team. So I bounced all around. Every year I just kind of take a pic. Hey, this, I like a good sec quarterback. I'll follow him. I, my favorite arena to perform in arena as well as Fargo in Philadelphia. It's a hard arena. They like the bad guys more. And for whatever reason on a night, I had nothing going on. This is money in the bank years ago. I'm sorry. I'm looking at you. Like you know, the way the story we told the match was like, maybe they'll get behind Cody cause this is kind of a, an odd group that we don't have a running favorite. Maybe they'll get behind him. They got behind me in this match and the story of the match was more about me losing them, winning, but after that, I thought, so strange. I'm a nepo baby in the business. Lots been handed to me. I've, this is a type of crowd that wouldn't take to me. And from years of performing in front of them, they did. So I always had this Philly love fast forward to the biggest match of my life and where my whole life changes and why the title exists. Like why I have it here is there on the link is WrestleMania 40. Um, and I, after that, I just couldn't, I mean, I dressed in their locker room. I, my life was, my life changing as an entertainer in the wrestling business, all discussed right there in that infrastructure. So I just felt, I'm in, I'm, I'm in good team. Go birds. You're like, yeah, like go birds. Great conversation with Sirianni. Everything like a great team. I'm in and, and cron, you know, everything he did. I felt like I had just something about this place. Yeah. Fast forward to, I want to take my, some of the camera guys and one of our writers at WDB is named Kirsch and our director. They want to go to this Philly's Raiders game in Philadelphia. Like they want to go to the Eagles Raiders game in Philadelphia. And, uh, I was like, Oh, we can do it. We can make it work. And I, I didn't want to go through anybody. I just got a sweet, got it catered. I didn't try to do any of these hookups. The same game that I did this, Joe Biden was that. And I'm not kidding. They treated me better than they treated Joe Biden. That's kind of unsurprising. That makes sense. I know those guys. I got, I got pictures of me on the field, throwing the ball. I stood by the tunnel. They made everyone in my crew feel amazing. Uh, all we, so afterwards we're going to leave. We've had the best experience ever, especially some of the crew who this was just all of it was a bonus. Hey, come back, come in the locker room, going in the locker room, doing some local access interview about how the offensive line played that day. And I'm just talking nonsense, but they treated me like a native son. So every time I go, it gets deeper. Like I can't, cause my mom, the other day she asked me, she was, why are you an Eagles fan? Nothing ever good happened there. And I'm thinking you, you were in the ring. That's where they play. Yeah. But yeah, that's where, that's where it all started. So I'm new. I'm new. It's fun. But man, they do, they've been so good to me. Yeah. The Eagles are also going back to the Nebo baby thing. I don't like that idea at all. I hear you heard about like ice cube son, all this stuff. And it's like the idea of somebody working hard and then putting their kids in a good position to like work hard and do good stuff. People resent that. I'm like, I look at it like a Roman senator. So you're just bringing more glory to the house. So it's like, yeah, dude, it's like house. Oh, Shay Jackson, bring, he brings glory to the house of cube. You bring glory to the house of roads. I don't, that whole thing, I just, I'm just not with that man. Bro, it's spot on. That's like, that's, that's it. I mean, the song as I'm a super dramatic person. And when it comes to wrestling, I take it, so seriously for how often silly the job actually is. But I mean, the first words of my song are wrestling has more than one royal family. And it's all about, you know, the hearts, the McMahons, the Guerreros, and finally getting a little, Hey, the roads are here, dude. We're going to run this score up. That's what I'm talking about. I think that's awesome. We hear people like, it's like, dude, tell your dad to do better, man. Tell your dad to step it up, man. So anybody who brings their kids around work, and they're, if they're like young boys or whatever, and they're thinking about getting into wrestling, I always tell them like, Hey, it's going to be easy for you. Private jets, you're not going to be commercial. And I can always see like their parents stop. Get on the tour bus like, Hey, you got a little heat in the locker room. That's okay. Just, just if it's going to be bad, just lean into it. Yeah. Lean into it, you know, like WrestleMania, somebody called me the golden boy yesterday in a backstage pre-tape or a few weeks ago on TV. And I thought hilarious because I used to be a job guy here. I started very low here, but after that I decided I'm going to just go in on this and my mania gear, a lot of gold, like real, real, a little bit of a under the under the Cal. Oh, yeah. You got to go dude. It was hardcore. I highly like big Bob. Do you have any bodybuilders in your, in your life? No, just me. Yeah. Matt, Matt's been juiced up for a while. So he was the first guy who taught me how to train, but his life consisted of one night I drove him from Jamestown, New York to somewhere upstate New York in the middle of a blizzard and we get to a red roof in at 7am legit barely. This has just been brutal. The show is not till seven 30 the next day and I asked him when he wanted to meet and he's the old school guy who they didn't just set times. They'll call me when you wake up that thing. Like, no, tell me the time. Yeah. That's weird. But he was like, I don't know what is it seven 30 now? Let's say meet at 10. What? Yeah. Sleep for two hours. And we'd work out. We'd eat. Then we'd have nothing to do. We'd eat again. He was just very much the first guy I met. That was one thing he did right by me. He taught me about, I guess, proper training and proper nutrition and took me to the gym. And as far as a tag team partner, he was one of the toughest guys in the locker room. So no one ever really messed with any of us. But then other nights, he'd scare me. I think like one night I was in the shower and you know, those soap caddies, the things you put a bar in a bar soap, I guess I was taken too long and he was getting frustrated with him anyways. And all of a sudden that soap caddy flew by my head and shattered against the shower wall at like a, a Mariana Rivera speed to the point where I hope he wasn't aiming for me because that would have killed you. But no, he was, he has a very grumpy reputation, but I had at the time I got nothing but respect for it because I needed that. I needed, I think that's why they put us together. Give him the most curmudgeon. I mean, his name is hardcore Holly. Let's, let's see how they do. He'd do one thing he did that would always be a lesson, but a tough lesson. Sometimes he did way cooler stuff than me in the ring and then they'd build the big hot tag we call it. The guys getting beat up. He's getting beat up. He's getting beat up. Finally, the other team are going to power play style, switch the odds here. And sometimes instead of him getting beat up to tag me in and give me this big glorious moment, he'd just grab a guy in a full Nelson and pick him up and slam him, which is a full Nelson slam, which is a finish basically. And then he just walk over and tag me like this and I'd get in and like, oh, punch drops coming to kick him while he's down. And I was already like really plucky. So like, yeah, baby, like, uh, this guy. So he was, he was the exact right person. I still friendly with him to do it to this day. I think the exact right person I needed in my life, a wild one and, but never, never did anything crazy or unsafe because he's got a lot of weird stories. He was great by me. What I needed at the time. At EDF, we don't just encourage you to use less electricity. We actually reward you for it. That's why when you use less during peak times on weekdays, we give you free electricity on Sundays. How you use it is up to you. EDF change is in our power. Households to ship weekday peak usage by 40% for an up to 16 hours of free electricity and sub to fair usage. All too easy for the EDF energy.com. What is the training like then? Cause you got like, it's almost probably similar to bodybuilding, but then you probably have to do a lot of like, I don't know, like agility balance, flexibility. So you don't just like jump off a thing and rip everything. Today it's a, the way NXT operates, which is our developmental system, the performance center. I, I won't, I like how I came up, which was a different system. I came up, I went to OVW where you got with like-minded people. You'd sit there and watch wrestling. This is before the network. It was WWE on demand. It was like seven, nine, like on the cable package, watch MSG network shows and stuff like that. I got around people who liked wrestling. I'd go to the gym. They'd, that was, if you liked it, you'd click today. It's all, they've got it all mapped out really well. They've got exactly what you mentioned. They've got agility. They've got multiple rings, including one that has a, an extra layer of pad and bounce. So if you're going to try big high spots, they've got Shawn Michaels. Again, we're talking about probably the greatest in the ring ever. So that's your head coach. How could you not be good? The system they have down, down there with the performance center now is designed for the NIL athlete because they're used to it. I came from baseball, I came from football, I came from gymnastics. So they need all that. They need a room that's a recovery suite. They need a full blown weight room, which they have. They need all that. When I came up, you were just doing it yourself, which I liked because you found like minded people. I remember my whole class of coming up from OVW, but the system now it's a lot healthier. A lot healthier to get everybody ready. But the bodybuilding aspect of it, because since 2007, they've, the wellness policy is there. So the bodybuilding aspect of it, there's a couple of OGs still who treat it that way. For the most part, it's, it's all shapes and sizes again. 80 70 style where not everyone is shredded to the gills and not moving. There's a lot of, I guess, better athletes, I suppose. Less juicing. I would try to put it in. Because those boys were flying. Old wrestling. You nailed it. See old wrestling. See a guy sprint out like ultimate warrior. I'm not saying he was. Well, he probably definitely was, but see him just sprint out of the fucking tunnel. This guy is the highest guy I've ever seen in my life. They, uh, it's kind of awesome though. Yeah. There's this crazy clip of road warrior hawk, I think running. This is pre WWE, but talking about that type of energy and flowing through the veins. Yeah. He's running out in a studio TV show. So his distance, he needs to move is about 10 feet to the ring. And then he's going to have to turn to face the little studio camera. Forget if he was saving my dad or if they were saving somebody, but he's running with such everything that he jumps the top rope nearly hangs himself. And then he's able as strong as a bull and the adrenaline and speed. Yank is that out. Save the fall. So he never falls. He jumps with the top rope where his head gets harder to see. But then he's, you know, when you're falling and you need something to catch, he hashes himself on the top rope where they're all like this anyways, looking at the heels. Yeah. Come on. He's just like, you know, the conversation after had to be like, what the, you nearly died. Run it. Like when Rick flair, when he's old, but when he like runs into the turnbuckle and like bounces off of it, he's just flying. I think nature boy, if you were to shoot him in today, you know that he could flip up. He's, he's, he's got it. What about the shockmaster? You think he was a little juiced on the. Well, the shockmaster might have been juiced on that. Shockmasters connected to my family. I don't know. Oh, I didn't know that. So, uh, he's no longer married to my Aunt Bobby, but that was my uncle Fred and my dad. I'm trying to word this nicely. Cause I don't know, I was a kid. Seems like my dad was trying to help Fred out. Okay. And seemed like he was trying to give him a role. He had great run at WWE as Typhoon and tugboat. So the shockmaster was the role. I don't like to disc. It doesn't seem like the idea was that well thought. It was a stormtrooper mask. It was a bedazzled stormtrooper. Stormtrooper helmet. That Janie. Right. Spray painted silver spray paint on it. But the story, the story I've heard is that it wasn't Fred's fault. Uh, because before when they did flare for a gold, the, he, this guy ends up falling as he busts through a wall, his helmet falls off. And it's, he's the whole thing's dead in the water right that moment. The best part about that is Sid, who's going to WWE's Hall of Fame right now is still trying to hang on to it. Most people in that group are like, who this, this ain't good. We got to get out of here. We can't just go, well cut, you know, it's alive always with us, but Sid's going, who is that? He's trying to stay in. But the thing that Fred told everybody is there was a board, a guy named Jackie Crockett, it was a cameraman. He put that board there to just make sure the flare for the gold. Cause it was just a three wall set doesn't fall. That board apparently was not there earlier in the day and that board is what did it. I don't know anyway, which this ever would have worked. Say he emerges through the wall in his story. His fur best. I'm the shock. And only Anderson who's doing his voice. Yeah. From somewhere. He's like, yeah, it's not him talking. He's like lip syncing like he's talking. It's so crazy. Okay. So this happens and it's funny to the entire wrestling world. Some stuff is so bad. It's funny. We call it a monitor sell out where it's just, oh my God, it's gone so bad. Look at like, let's stay. But I had a very interesting ride home because my dad was mortified. And I'm pretty sure he thought he was going to be fired by Ted Turner and TBS. My uncle was not going to make it in that role. That wasn't going to. So we just drove home from wherever that was in dead silence, like the loss, the games, like that type of, all we ever talked about was wrestling and how cool that was. But I knew bombing. We do, we do this. Yeah. Yeah. You bomb you get in the car with everyone drive home silently. Yeah. The bit, the bit didn't work out. Someone says one thing like, you shut the fuck up. That's a bad drive. And there's always the one guy trying to be like, let's go to taco Mac or something. No, man. Like, yeah, yeah, we have a thing of the mashup. Oh, so the funniest bomb ever. My two friends were on stage together and just the crowd fucking hated them. And then we get in the car and we're driving back to our place and it's just dead silent. And then finally it's like, you guys suck. And then they were like, okay, all right. It's pretty funny. Yeah, we suck. And then the next hour of me making fun of the one dude just lost his mind and tried to fight it. Oh, no. The re-init chair is that we had like a house with like five of us. There's one chair where we'd all play video games. If you bomb, you're like, dude, you got to sit in the bomb chair. You bomb tonight. You got to do the bomb chair. And he kept bringing up the mashup. Yeah. And he stood up fully like, fight me right now. I can't. I thought he was joking too. He like went into the kitchen and he was like, are you motherfucker? So I got in his face joking. I was like, and then I realized he was serious. And I was like, oh, he might, he might murder me. Do you feel it's important though, the passion in terms of when you bomb or have that moment, you need to have that bad night. Yeah, for sure. But I would never add. I don't know why I would say never. I spazz on so many people after I've bombed. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think you need that. Yeah. It's embarrassing though when you, if you bomb and then you get mad at somebody else. Yeah. You got to be mad at yourself. Yeah. I was through a can of liquid death just the other night. I flubbed the last like two words of my closer. I just like fucked up the clothes and flubbed the words and I was like, all right. Yeah, you guys got the idea. I'm out here. Sorry about that. And I walked backstage and I was getting like ready just to hurl a full liquid death and I saw a camera above me. I'm like, yeah, maybe I'll just chill. I started to squeeze it privately. I put against my chest and squeezed it. I saw, I saw like right before you took a break from stand up. You got off stage at helium and I was on the other side of the door and I was just like, oh, that sucked. You're like, fuck. I was like, never mind. Normally if you bomb, you can just be like laughing off, but every once in a while you'll see someone like fully like. No, dude, the worst. We did a comedy contest in New Jersey. That was sick. And I had like an okay set and I remember the guy came up after me and was just like, yeah, this guy started just like trashing me. I was watching it. I was like, you said, fucker, Shane's laughing. I'm like, it's not funny. And then I was I chilled out for sure. But I remember he was done. He was with his girlfriend. I like walked up to him. This is like hours later, walked up to him. I was pretty funny, man. He was like, okay. And I was like, no, seriously, I ever do that again. I like pulled him in. I'm like, never do that again. I'll fucking kill you. I swear to God. He was like, dude, relax. I'm just kidding. He was right. I'm just being sparse. But yeah, it's okay. As far as like wrestling promos go in the last lines being flubbed, that's one of the worst feelings ever when you think you've got some hot ammunition and then you come back and realize didn't get, I got 60% of that and it didn't land. And also you feel like it's everybody else's fault because our least idea, you go out there and it's live. So there's the camera there and there's all these other elements. I'll tell you a crazy one that people never take into account. Now I own my bus every now and then I'll try and do this, but the amount of stuff, physical stuff, sometimes in wrestling. So you're just sitting there. You're talking, I'm going to say this. I'm going to say this. And then you realize like, I got it. I'm going to have the title and the mic and then I might have the glasses on you think of all these other elements. And I always, those are where I usually go to blame. Like that's right. Yeah. You'll know there was one promo idea where I laid the title in front of me and I just told the cameraman. I said, shoot up. Like it's a big dramatic shot. I can't poke around with this thing right now. Like it's so much. Yeah. Yeah. I blame everything else. I blame everything else. I have a fucking crowd and sensitive. Whatever. No matter what, I got a fucking guy before me sucked. When's the last time that you felt you bombed? Oh, it happens a lot. I bombed on Friday at the fucking United center in Chicago. Big building. It was the biggest big money, literally the biggest arena. And that was actually sounds fault. Yeah. Yeah. So it was an acoustic. Acoustically, it was terrible. We fixed it. They were adjusting it the entire time during my set. Oh, took like 25 minutes into my set. They started to fix it. Did you feel that are you your own biggest critic that you bombed by your standards? Or did you feel you really probably wasn't a true? It wasn't a true. It was fine. The show was fine, but there was definitely like sections of people that could barely hear it. So then you're like, damn, those people wasted their money. Yeah. Yeah. And like, you feel terrible about that. You're a real, you're a real one. Well, that's the worst. Well, the consumer experience is everything. I feel like the longer you go in any type of entertainment, I like being around people who care because a lot, like a lot of young wrestlers, for example, they're just just wanting to body slam him. And then he kicks me up and we go, they're thinking very much about just two of them. Yeah. And then I think, especially if they go on before Raw or Smackdown, I'm thinking, Hey, it was 12,000 people. Yeah. They were, they didn't mind what you did, but you could have brought them in. Yeah. They involved them. Could have like, get them going. Yeah. Excited. We're about to go on air versus do kind of your own performance. The first, I did the first arena I ever did. I was always like, I'm not going to use fucking like fog machines and fucking lights and shit. Like I'm like, that's all fucking corny. I just, it was the worst decision of all time. Oh, okay. Just stood on a, it was just silent in a stage. And I was like, we got to get some fucking lights and shit. We got to spruce this up. Yeah. That's the other comedians doing, I'd be like, fucking losers. Yeah. And then you kind of have to, that's kind of the George straight in like country music world just stands in the center of the stage. Yeah. It turns out I'm not George straight. So I feel like a lot of people have the turns out I'm not George straight moment where it's like, you know what? Yeah. Load it up. Yeah. I'm good. Mine was night one and then night two. I was like, all right, we got to get like some fog or something. Tiny like mall fog machine. It was like a hundred yards away from me. There was just like steam coming out of the side. Yeah. Bombed again. I was like, fuck. It's a work in progress. Yeah. We're figuring it out. Yeah. That's too big of a space just to come out to him. Like walk out quietly. Yeah. Everyone's waiting for you. Crazy. That's so funny. It was bad. I used to think it would be funny to come out on stage to ambient music, like the stuff he fall asleep to. Yeah. I tried it once and I was just like, I'm so sorry. So who picks songs to walk out to because it's funny in the idea of it's funny. Like what if I walk out to like flute, EDM, a fucking dubstep and then every time Matt walks out at one of my shows, I'm like, who picked what is this? Turn this the fuck off. It also plays for three seconds. It just blasts fucking garbage. It doesn't play long enough for it to land. And I also run the stage fast. You never acknowledge it. You never even go, that was funny. He just starts, he's like, hey, how's everybody doing? This guy's out of his mind. Yeah. It's like, boy, boy, boy, boy. What's the song? You got the song. I know exactly what it is. I can play it right now. Nuts, dude. This is a song. How did you come up with your theme song, Cody? Damn. Come on. That song, speaking of him coming out to land songs that may not land. You got to hear this fucking hit it. I got a good one right here. Where is this? Everything is this one. Oh, here it is. I found it. No, no, no, it's not that. There it is. Sound pretty similar. No, it's right. I'm excited. I'm worried that this is such a long list. Here we go. Let me skip ahead a little bit. It's good. It's a good fucking wrestling walk out. All right. Yeah. I'm worried though. I'm worried though. This is crazy. The song doesn't really tell us anything about you. Other than I privately think that's funny. Because to your, to your question, the trick with a wrestling song, all the greatest wrestling music, it doesn't need to be a good song. It needs to be a catchy song. Jimmy Hart, the mouth of the South, the manager for Hogan, he was making all that great 90s content music that ended up being everyone's favorite. It was catchy. I like Kingdom, the song I come out to, but, and I actually think it's, those guys are great. Downstate's great. It's great song. It's done amazing things. It's the only walk out song. I think WWE has the WWE doesn't own. I don't know how we feel about that. But the issue is I hear it so much that, especially at the end of the night, it's fun doing the rounds and I'm staying in there just playing that one song. It gets you. Yeah. And I heard my daughter the other day, she doesn't know the words, but she was saying, like something, she put Paul patrol in it all of a sudden. It's very, it's very, you can, I've heard people do the something, something Cody Rhodes, which is just kind of the appropriate way to sing it and what not. As long as you get to the whoa, what are they, what are they saying? Well, they, yeah, the way nobody seems to know the words, but they just, there's one part of that something, something Cody Rhodes. And it's, if you think of it that way, it's, it's a pretty, it's a pretty interesting song by WWE standards to it's got my voice, which I recorded on a generation one iMac when I first left WWE because I took the song on the road with me. That's one of the things why WWE doesn't own it. I took it when I went did independence and started to basically started myself back over to eventually come back to WWE. But I, I can say this, it can never change unless I was to go, you know, bad guy, then that song is out, I suppose, but that's the other thing. I'm locked into it. We're married together. That song and I, Oh, here we go. This episode is brought to you by no bull. Matt, please speak for 15 to 20 seconds about the worst pair of pants you've ever had. And go. Uh, worst pair of pants I've ever had. I, I know what they are. So I had these, another brand of high end active wear, but they almost, they were so sleek. They felt almost like pantyhose. 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Come on guys, it'll be fun. The realto theater road. Yeah, man. Oh yeah. The Toronto you guys keep doing what you're doing. That's going to be great. Riviera Theater, Chicago, May or yeah, May 16th. And that'll be fun as well. It's just goddamn Phoenix and Tucson kicking my ass right now. We'll figure it out. We'll get my word. We'll find her. But as a big smoke America's guy, like the Russian Cody roots. Yeah. Speaking of bad guys, what's going on with that prick Pat McAfee? Yeah, what the hell? What a prick. Yeah. How well, how well you know? I know him pretty well. Yeah. He's a jerk. Let me see where I can see. I'd like to stomp him. Yeah. In Las Vegas, WrestleMania, I'm going to beat the fuck out of Pat McAfee. That would honestly be awesome. I actually have to open the straight of hormones again though. Oh, yeah. Fucking bit closed it. So I can't go to Vegas. I've been, I've been told that some of the people in his, his orbit, his circle, I think he's the next Sylvester Stallone in terms of TV film. I don't know if I'm getting that from what I've watched. I have very limited knowledge on Pat other than I love me some college game day. Yeah. Yeah. He is very good on college game day. I will say, I know you don't want to hear this. He's the fucking man. Yeah. I would say I, I'm glad. I'm glad there are people who like to pitch themselves in these WrestleMania and these big moments. I am flattered. Yeah. He wants to be a part of it. I'm flattered. Yeah. That's just, that's just, you shaking your head. No. Have you turned on Pat? Have you turned on Pat? This is a Pat friendly house, right? I haven't turned on Pat, but like, to like, you know, like it doesn't make any sense. Talk your shit, dude. Yeah. Talk it. Like, yeah. Talk it cause I'm not. I'm just going to do the Mariah Carey answer moving forward on Pat McAvie. I don't know him. There's like no tough punners. Like, you know, what's the opposite of this? All right. Cause he keep me in the like below the belt here. Yeah. That was an NFL punner. That might be though you want to stay away from those legs. Yeah. That might be it. Yeah. This is the first time I've been asked about him. And I think henceforth I'm just going with the Mariah Carey. I don't know him response. Even though I might, what was the nature of the betrayal? What exactly happened? Oh man. What do you do? I, uh, let's see how we could explain Randy Orton who I'm wrestling in WrestleMania. We have a like almost two decades of history between each other. He was my mentor and I had seen how I drove around. I had Randy, very different opinions, uh, but also really helped shape me. We were on screen together as part of his group legacy. He had my dad's last match, my first match in the company's is Randy. There was a lot of rich story material. And then we inserted, uh, Pat McAfee. And that's, we are literally in that part right there. So your question is everybody else's question. True. And that helps this guy even doing it. I, uh, yeah. No, you know, like the, the troops all outside and there's that clown. Right. I'm not saying he's like the clown in that regard. He just, it's an interesting fit. And we're going to see, we're going to see, we're going to see where it goes. You said he's not a serious person. No, I don't, I think he seems like you can't have that much success and be ground up like he is without being a serious person and having been to the Thunderdome and for sure there's. What I would say is right now what I've seen is everyone around Pat McAfee, his orbit, probably someone needs to say no every now and then that seems, that seems like a dangerous group of people to, you know, you need, like we were talking about Bob Holly earlier, man. You need that one guy in the room to be like, I don't know, man, jumping into the WrestleMania main event. Also, while I was getting my ass kicked in the ring the other night, looking up and he's wearing shades, like he put the shades on to go out there. It's a different era of wrestling. It was like watching a guy at a bar do like a stone cold impression or like, and here's the thing and I'm really trying to, I'm just going to stick with that. I don't know him, but this is my, is, is I heard him again getting my ass kicked. I heard him talk about the attitude era and I'm thinking, oh man, I don't think he knows almost 30 years ago, almost. So love it. And it was the most prolific era in the business until the last four years. Yeah. So if you're part of the last four years, you kind of feel like, why are we talking about this? You know what I'm saying? We're playing in this game. Why are we talking about this? And yeah, no, I'll stick with the official though. I don't know him. Yeah. Damn dude. It should be interesting. Oh, and that's the best part about it. It's very interesting. WrestleMania and something that modern wrestling fans and more what I mean is younger fans who didn't watch WrestleMania one or two. The original WrestleMania was built on the celebrity interaction. Like Mr. T, Hogan, Liberace, everything there, you know, you know, Wendy Richter, everything like it was all about your wrestle. Mike Tyson and you know, when WrestleMania with him and with Sean and Steve. So there's always that element now. Pat is there. There was that in the ring. He's in it. He's this. He's the new Liberace as we were saying. And that list of celebrities who come to the first of the mania Muhammad Ali, Mr. T, Wendy Richter and Liberace. You decide where Pat falls on the list. You decide, you know, there's that. Yeah. I was watching the, I just saw Instagram reel of when Mayweather was on when he punched a big show broke. I watched that live and I was like, he really fucking punched him. Yeah. And then them talking about it was pretty sick. Also, I think show that the big show, they had a nice agreement between each other that when wrestling is done, right? The best thing ever is when you can just have a little bit of doubt on, ooh, seems like those guys do hate each other. Yeah. Seems like, and we have a lot of that in both main events this year. There's a lot of sincerity to the suspension of disbelief. I just believed you. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I tried very hard to navigate. So now I'm sitting here. I feel bad. No, dude. I got to turn on Pat dude. It's WrestleMania. Yeah. It's WrestleMania too. Pat backsep me on college game to judging. Oh, bro, you got. He told me Nick Saban love joking around. We got done. He was still going. He was like, dude, go talk to him. There's no way he was serious. I was like, are you serious? Yeah, you bet. Well, so he's such a serious guy. I, the crazy thing from my game day experience. Did you have notes when you did yours? No. Thank I didn't know what was going on. You just went to college. I had a couple drinks. I had a couple drinks during the day too. It was a night game. It was a Notre Dame playoff game at night. Dude, I was Mac out on there. Matt. It was a nice. Yeah. It's such a great show. I went on and I had the night before kind of like a set had been thinking of there's, there's some teams I don't know. I don't know enough about Kansas state, but I want to be able to make my picks. And I'm in Athens and I go up there and I got the title and I got the fanatics other UGA title. They're making me bring up there. So I didn't have notes and I sat down to next to coach Lee. I sat down and he looked at me and just went, no notes, huh? And I thought, oh, shit. Oh, man. Oh, dude. No, no, no. Could I have notes? I would have not been able to memorize who won this award because some of those teams are, I'm not watching. Yeah. You know, I'm an SEC guy mainly for the most part. That's where I was at, but I loved game day. Love it. Yeah, it's awesome. You did great on game. Thanks. Yeah. I like the replica. The rivalry is great. Yeah. Savings the straight man on that show. I mean, it's real. That was so funny. You also have a deep knowledge of all like the teams and stuff. I wouldn't, I'd be tough. It would sniff me out pretty quickly. I think. Do you ever, do you ever listen to a Saban or a Kirby locker room speech to get yourself fired up? Those are sick. Those are pretty awesome. I have found myself listening to Kirby talk to a bunch of college kids like they're going to war. Yeah, it's awesome. And I didn't realize the amount of F bombs in a college like Kirby speeches get me. That's a regular little treadmill listen. Freeman got one at a Notre Dame's coach. Got one. It was half time in Notre Dame Penn State. I think it was 10 nothing, 10 three. And he was like, just a fight. Go out and fucking fight. Yeah. He's like, you know, this fight. He pads on man. Louis Holts has my favorite one. He was right before it was Notre Dame, Miami. Yeah. They got in a fight in the tunnel and all the players are like, because coach Holts was like a very serious like they're like, we're going to, he's going to yell at us for fighting. He's like, I just got one thing to say. You leave Jimmy Johnson's ass for me. Yeah. All right. P is this is this convicts area of Oh gosh, what are you seeing that? Yeah, it was that game. It was that game. Yeah. That's that was as real as it gets. That's fun. Oh yeah. All on the line. You know what I'll say about the Miami fans. They they love the whole where the bad guys thing. You call them convicts once and they're all like, that's mean. I thought you guys were Catholic. Shut up. Well, I think also the number seven coming for you, Miami. You're coming to South Bend. I think the sensitivity of that era was a little different though in terms of what was on TV. Also the way they presented both teams. Yeah. Well, the way the teams present themselves. Miami's scoring touchdowns and taking their helmet off and spiking it on a good character question to find out where you stood during the Catholics convicts side of football. I know exactly where I stay. I like my roster not getting arrested constantly. I mean, what are we talking about? That's why my dad loves you. But I see why you like the Bulldogs. Oh, the dog, bro. They're the best. They're pretty good. Other than that sugar bowl. Yeah. That was fun. But also as far as a team to root for it's a good team. You're consistently you're winning home game. Yeah. Between the between the hedges. Ugg is still on the field. He's the best. Always. The marriage will be Ugg 15. Every time they bring around another mascot or try to like one thing. You know, the Bulldog man. You like it. Bevo attacks. Bevo and every time someone's like, I think it's a good idea. Let's just get a dog. Why would you put the full blown steer in this bulldog are going to do well together? You know, I love them dogs and a dog biting people. Sometimes that's nice. Great picture. I think is a go five in the Auburn game. Yes. That's the type of run through brick wall stuff. If our dog is getting into this, that's nice fighting. You know, yeah. I think my niece is going to UGA. Nice. Yeah, that's big. I'm excited. Yeah. The dogs good team. My mom's a big Notre Dame fan. Yeah. She's a saint. Yeah. She's she's happy to hear that. You know, say it's your struggle because we don't get it because here's why. Don't you get there? So her air of growing up Notre Dame, it's Notre Dame. That's all you have to say. Touchdown. Jesus. It's Notre Dame, right? However, we don't know anyone who went there anymore. We don't have any connection to it. That doesn't stop and multiple children have gone to other major universities and it's still, I'm going to the Notre Dame game with my sister. Who do you know? It's like, you got to get out there. That's their thing. Once you see it, you go, I get it. Does it get you? You'll get it. Yeah. It gets you. All right. It's one of the greater franchise. I'm a franchise. I have great institutions of all time. If not, top five. Top five is crazy. Top five. Now, since Bama went on that run with saving now Notre Dame's two. In Bama being one. Bama is now number one. Where would you put UJ? Recently, they made a good run because before that, I think they had one title since like 1980. Yeah. Then they had they. Yeah. They're out there for sure. Not really. You live in here, man. I still like Texas. They're great. They're the Longhorns are fun, but maybe they're not. You can't put them up there with they're not even above Oklahoma. Oh, all time though, just blue blood wise wrestling famous wrestling announcer Jim Ross is watching this now. Yeah. He's still. Oh man. No, Texas is right there. I think I sent you a text about this. I don't know. I think I saw you talk about it one time and I was telling myself, I was like, I have to ask him about it is a Ken Burns Civil War. Rocks. I live for Ken Burns. Yeah. And it have you seen it? I haven't seen it. No, it's 47 hours long. Yeah. I heard it. I haven't been able to commit to it. There's no video. I've watched it. Just pictures. Just. Eight times. I don't think I've gotten to get his. I've watched the first five hours. I've been like, that's still really good. It's great. I got the part of Gile and Street Fighter coming up. Oh yeah. And I'm thinking like, oh, I just want to get as American. Yeah. Right. And deep dive into military history. All stuff I already like. Yeah. Clearly already very, very much like, but I was just diving in and for whatever reason, I got stuck on Ken Burns Civil War and I was just fine with that. Yeah. It's so good. It's so funny to watch that prepare for Giles. I got to know what it's. What it's. Think about Pickett's charge. Boom. This is what it took to get, you know, true. You get the hang on the shaltz on that. What's that Andrew shaltz on that? Yeah. It's phenomenal. Yeah. He's the man. Oh, and genuinely phenomenal. Yeah. I think people will be because they have Noah Centineo, Kalina and Koji that three leads, Chun Lee, Ryu and Ken are killing it. They, they, they knew their stuff. They were ready. They were pros pros. And I think they put 50 cent and shaltz and me and we got to come in, flow in. And the way shaltz is in the movie really blew me away. Yeah. Cause I got to see him both making people laugh hysterically. And then also a couple of sincere moments. He's a special one. Yeah. Really special one. Yeah. He told me he'd help me against McAfee. I don't know. Yeah. Some jokes. And then shaltz also has started, I think single-handedly shaltz started a mortal combat versus three fighter and everyone, I think on stage thought like the same thing. Okay. Well, back him because that's our guy, but like, you know, like, yeah, I don't know how far I think it's only getting worse. Like shaltz is ready for a fight, but also like, I don't know. I was saying he's like my tag partner. I'm in. We got to go. We got his back. Great guy. He jumped in the ring with his shades on talking about the attitude era while I was laying there, confused, you know, but yeah, no, I know him. Yeah. I know this other guy. McAfee's a fricking punk. I can't wait for this all to get settled. Hey, is this your wrestler go to this right here? I got Hulk Hogan. We're coming for you. Do you know when you do media and stuff for your shows, do people ever ask you, hey, do something funny for every all the time? Okay. And what do you have a bit? No, I said, no, I don't do. I do. I tell everyone because some people when they don't know wrestling and I totally understand how great the 80s were and I get it. I loved it myself, but that is a common. Hey man, why don't you just cut a quick little promo for us? Oh man. That's what they want. They want the and I usually it's it's so soft and just almost I'd say you can see in their eyes. Oh, it's not what I want. I thought you were going to like say, let me tell you something brother. Like, bro, it's 7am. I'm in a suit and it's it's 2026. You know, like, I can just tell you this other stuff, but then also in my mind, I leave like, well, I should have something. Yeah, I should have a thing. Like when I met Burt Kreischer, Burt's more of a pro wrestler than half the pro wrestlers. He's like ready for that. So I now try to have one ready, but then I never do. And just always try and tell them, let's just avoid before we get out of here. Cause I think you actually have to go. Could you cut one for us? Yeah, sure. Lamar please cut a wrestle. Please cut a wrestle man. He needs you to cut one. I need it. Lemme get out of here. Get in front of camera. Get in front of camera. Give a message. Send back a message right now. Give him a camera, bro. I'll set you up. This guy came for us. Yeah, bro. He inserted himself into WrestleMania. That's your turf. Lamar, the belt was in your pool house. Yeah. Honor it. That the title. Grab the Notre Dame belt. Get the bell, bro. Get the Notre Dame belt for this. Going to mess around. Yes. Feel the strength of it. Yeah. Feel that. Coach Luz in there. Oh yeah. Got that fanatic style. Right. Get in front of camera, bro. Tell Mac if he what's up, dude. What's the date? WrestleMania. 1890. Yeah. You know. Yeah. He's been starting to get his brain. Come on, Lamar. Pat McAfee, you dare say that the wrestling industry is the wrestling fandom that the IWC stinks. Yeah. Dude, this is the stuff that you're made of. This is where you're from. Without the IWC, you wouldn't even be on TV. You wouldn't be shit. Dude. Keep driving. Don't laugh, dude. Keep going, Lamar. You wouldn't be shit. This WrestleMania. April 18th, April 19th. You and Randy Orton think you're going to take on the American nightmare Cody Rhodes. You think you're going to walk out unharmed. Yeah. You think you're going to walk out fully together. You think you're going to walk out the same guys. Oh, no. You're threatening your wife. My wife altering your drinks. No, dude. Yeah. Come on, man. This guy right here, Cody Rhodes, the American nightmare, the QB1 of the WWE. Fuck yeah. He rarely lets us down. He rarely lets us down. He won't let us down. You're done your shit talking that. You fucking, he does pretty good for us. What the fuck, dude? Lamar, that was great. Good job, Lamar. Just medium. This guy, QB1? You say he's got a pretty good winning percentage. All right. I think unfortunately you set it up where it's like, oh man, he rarely lets us down. Basically like, hey dude. There's no chance he's going to let us down. Lamar, I was happy. So you're coming to Mania, right? Yeah. You know, he's going to get into. You got to be there after all that. Watch out for Pat. Pat's going to watch you. You got to be there. Before you go, I have to say one more thing. So on the way here, I was doing a little research. I came across an interview with you and your wife, Brandy, right? Yeah. And I, there was just a point of it made me laugh so hard where she introduced herself as the African American nightmare. Yeah. And then you said it, you're like the African American nightmare. She's like, okay, don't say that. That interview is so funny. It's not. It's not mine. It's not mine to access. And I learn it more every day. It's not. So I, I referenced my nickname on TV, Rahim. And that was funny until I said it. And then now I, I live with it. So yeah. That interview is so funny. It's not mine. It's a crazy thing. Nobody loved it. He was like, oh, I'm keeping that. See how it goes for me. It's not mine. God, that was funny. It was a funny interview. Definitely. I learned every day. Yeah. It's good. You're growing. Yeah. The mayor, thank you for the promo. That was a great job of the mayor. You're coming to WrestleMania, man. You got it. And Pat, be, be scared. He'd be scared running into you, man. You got him shaking, right? You got it. You're holding the Notre Dame title for instance. Yeah. You have our friends. You know, you feel in that energy. It's past move now. Yeah. I do worry about Randy Orton. I think you could take Pat. Randy, Randy, like a human horse though, a thick, a thick boy, you know, so you got it. I don't know the mayor. The mayor, you're strong as hell, right? Yeah. Okay. I'm Randy Orton strong. Pat, we're talking about you taking out Pat. Oh yeah, I can take Pat. Pat would beat the hell out of you. No. No. No way. No way. I'm going to heal. I'm going back. Pat, man, you're the man. All right. Well, thank you very much. Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you, man. Thank you so much.