The Difference Between A Martyr and a Jihadist

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The Charlie Kirk Show is proudly sponsored by Preserve Gold, the leading gold and silver experts and the only precious metals company I recommend to my family, friends and viewers. Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. Hour two is underway. We are joined in studio by the voice you just heard, Pastor Andrew Cedra. You are the lead pastor of Echo Church in Sydney, Australia. The socialist gay Islamic state on the other side of the world. So that's my first question. Is Australia fake and gay? It is very gay, very liberal, very nice. We have very good coffee down there. Beautiful weather, beautiful beaches. Yeah, the best vibes. Really honestly a beautiful people, a beautiful culture and you've got the Australian open happening right now. And that's the saddest thing about it though is if you take Australia you could say this big country is basically perfect. It's not overpopulated, it has endless natural resources. One can live happily ever after. But then they thought, how could we mess this up? Why don't we, well, we're going to talk about that here. Why don't we import problems? Well, listen, we've got whatever problems Australia has. Maybe not proportionally per capita, but we have just as many and millions more. So I want to start with a provocative question here though because you are a pastor and we will get to Australia in just a second. The left is turning Alex Pretty and Renee Good, you're aware of these stories, into martyrs. I believe Charlie is a martyr. He's a Christian martyr. He's a freedom of speech martyr, an American martyr. What is the difference between, let's say, an activist that does something stupid, gets themselves into a situation. Maybe the cops, maybe it wasn't the best shot. I'm willing to concede that ground. But they obviously were provoking and they were obstructing law enforcement. What's the difference between a martyr and a jihadist? The reality is a jihadist dies for the sake of his political agenda. And like Charlie Koch died for faith, family, freedom. It was very clear boundaries and reality. He didn't die trying to stop a police. He didn't try, die trying to shoot a police. He didn't try, try to obstruct law, force and order. He died for faith. He was literally proclaiming his faith a few minutes before a resurrection of Jesus Christ. He died for freedom. You could clearly see that shirt. He literally got shot while speaking and he died for family. That's kind of the most controversial. But the problem is we have at the moment because people have lost a moral conscience. We are putting all things together and creating all the things without actually realizing what did the actual person die for? We need to actually understand and they died for believing the world is this big happy safe space where there's no nations. There's no boundaries. There's no borders, which if you're Christian, you can't really believe that we do believe in boundary the nations. So we really have to look at the cause and the because of the martyrdom in order to understand and more than anything, what was happening the moment they got murdered. Charlie Koch was literally speaking in a microphone, trying to debate his ideas. Most people are doing crazy things, creating complexity in an already volatile space. So we do need to teach people to gain the moral conscience because you saw even with Joyce Floyd, like Joyce Floyd with a criminal committing a crime. He died in the process of committing a crime. How do you put Charlie and Joyce Floyd or the people that were like Black Lives Matter, but there was very controversial for them to speak about Charlie Koch's death? It makes you wonder, it's like people need to really recalibrate the moral conscience and definitions in order to realize what is a martyr and what is the jihadist? And we have now the gay jihadist, the immigration jihadist, the Islamic, you have every type of jihadist now. And by the way, just because the reason I framed it that way for people who aren't familiar with your background is you specialize in calling out the dangers of Islam. So give your backstory and why that is a central message for you. Yeah. So our group on the Islamic world of Egypt under soft sharia law. So sharia law is a thing. It's an every single Islamic state in the whole entire world. The 54 of them, they have sharia law. So unlike what a conservative would tell you, sharia law is a conspiracy. I wish it was. It's not. That's why I literally, my family escaped the Islamic world of Egypt because of apostasy laws and because of blasphemy laws. True story. I visited Egypt and I found a book in a bookstore in Luxor and it was some professor and it is very beautiful. And a professor argued it was a book. He wrote arguing that Egypt showed the model way for Christians and Muslims to coexist. But I guess you probably wouldn't agree with him. Coexists coexist. Well, when Islam says peace, they mean war. When they say equality, they mean Islamic supremacy. When Islam says freedom, they mean tyranny. That's why them and the left, they're like the best buddies to get married, you know, a quiz for Palestine, Gays for Gaza, or you can see now the Red-Green Alliance. It's perfect because both of them lose, use language to not communicate but to manipulate. So they're going to use your language, your vocabulary, your ideology. Like for example, this is one of the most controversial things. People say American Muslim as someone who escaped the Islamic world saying American Muslim is an oxymoron. It's like saying trans woman a woman or it's like saying men could get pregnant. America is about life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Islam is about death, tyranny and jihad. That is a theological. And conquering. And conquering. Which is, I guess, jihad. So the big question I think we have at the moment coming from the Middle East. So I escaped Islam to the Western world to come here to find them rising, taking over and running a propaganda campaign. Islam means peace. And like what, then why am I here to begin with? And I think this is kind of my warning to America, particularly the conservatives that are unable to actually understand what's happening in the Islamic world. I always tell Americans, America is an exceptional country. But make sure American exceptionalism doesn't become American narcissism. Where you look at Israel or the Middle East or all the Islamic world through the lens of Christendom, you have to look at Islam through the lens of Islam. You know, project your American lovey-dovey like George Bush did. We're going to free Iraq. I'm like, dude, Muslims don't want freedom in Iraq. The problem you have, you want their freedom, they don't want them. So even if you remove whatever Islamic secular dictator, they're going to vote for a worse dictator. Yeah. Well, this is this idea of tabula rasa, right? Where all of humanity are blank slates, their culture that they were steeped in as a kid, no longer matters. We can make them lovers of democracy. We can spread democracy. And the lesson of the 21st century is that that is a giant, huge propaganda lie. You're being gaslit to think that people, their cultures and their religions do not matter, that they can be assimilated into a Western frame of reference and a frame of mind. No. And this is actually, I would say, I'm still working this out, but you know, Charlie, I think had it completely worked out. The West is Christendom. The West is Christendom. So when you look at who you want to come into your country, if you are a Western nation, even if you are not a believer, even if you hate Christianity, you are blessed by the culture of Christianity, by our laws, by the customs, by the terms of phrases, by our language, by everything about this culture that you love is undergirded by a Christian heritage. And so please. Freedom is fundamentally a Christian concept. It's not a gay concept. It's not a liberal concept. It's not an American concept. It's fundamentally a Christian concept. The Bible said, and you'll know the truth and the truth will set you free. There is no coincidence why America and the Western world are the only nations with that dictators. The Buddhist world is not free. The Islamic world is not free. The pagan world is not free. The communist, godless, government-worshipping world is not free. America, you have to understand what makes you is Christendom. So the problem we have at the moment, we are importing people from the Islamic world that believe in Quran, Sharia law, and no matter how moderate of a Muslim you are, you still don't believe in freedom. So Egypt is a very moderate Muslim country. Like, you don't just get killed on the street. But we have apostasy laws which are designed if a Muslim becomes a Christian, they go to jail for five to eight years. That's also in Qatar. That's also in Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia will actually. But a Christian can become a Muslim easily. Exactly. Because all of that is Islamic supremacy. And Islam say freedom, they mean tyranny. When they say equality, they love to use that word, he, Ilan Omar and Somali and crowd, 99.99% Muslim. They mean Islamic supremacy. So no matter where you go and the whole entire world, freedom is fundamentally a Christian concept. Charlie Koch nailed it. Islam will be the sword that he literally posted that one day from before the destination. Slits the throat of the West. And I do think America needs to re-recalibrate that. So you don't lose land of the free and home of the brave. It's so bizarre because you look at the Middle East and Islam is declining in some of those countries and then the fundamentalism is rising in the West. And straight up feels like they've exported a lot of fundamentalists. And you'll hear the worst preachers in London, not in Riyadh necessarily. It looks like the man was charged for rushing representative Ilhan Omar and took a syringe and sprayed her with apple cider vinegar. I did get a kick out of the idea where we should have the federal government investigate this as an attack on a federal lawmaker and take it very seriously and see if anything else comes out. But I suspect it's exactly what it looks like on the tin. I suspect. I suspect. And that's my favorite phrase. Anyway, but we have a great clip. We were just talking about how the West is christened. Even basically everyone in the West is a Christian, even the atheists. And if they don't realize it or they don't like it, but Charlie has a great clip on this. Let's play 469. The spiritual battle is coming to the West and the enemies are woke is a remarks ism combining with Islam ism to go after what we call the American way of life. And the American way of life is very simple. I want to be able to get married by a home, have kids, allow them to ride their bike till the sun goes down, send them to a good school, have a low crime neighborhood, not to have my kid be taught the lesbian, gay, transgender garbage in their school. While also while also not having them have to hear the Muslim call to prayer five times a day. That's important. We want the American way of life, which is by the way, Christendom. He said it Christendom like that. Well, he was working on that. Yeah. No, I was so prophetic. I know. I know. And you know, you look, you got to look back at the last days of Charlie Kirk and realize that I believe, you know, God numbers are days. So God knew, even though we're all still adjusting to this brave new world, but God knew. And I just, I know that God was speaking to him. And I know that God was raising like almost like the final battle lines of probably the rest of this century. That's what I believe. It was incredible to see how much he grew over time, but even just in those last three months, what he was shifting and what he was focusing on, what he wanted to say, what he made sure he said when he got the opportunity to do so. It was affordability. Affordability. Affordability. The next generation realizing that the gains that we had in 2024 were not set in stone. It was such a long view. Yes. So step away from the day to day politics, which is a grind, which is annoying, which is distractions and say this is the stuff that's going to matter in 20 years in 50 years in a thousand years. Yeah. And you can see that clearly in New York, the Marxist Islamic Alliance, the Socialist Jihadist Alliance, the biggest to extensual threats to America is socialism and Islam. Islam is because of immigration and socialism because of the lack of affordability of homes. We're seeing that across Australia. And also immigration. As America turns 250 this year, I want to take a moment to remember the people who helped build it, not the ones in the history books, but the ones who woke up before the sun season after season without seeking any sort of applause. And those people are America's ranchers for over 250 years. Ranchers have worked tirelessly to feed America through every kind of storm, through droughts, wars, recessions, pandemics, changing markets and changing politics. 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Mangianism and Mamdaniism versus Maga. Maga. Right? And so please expound on that because you see this in Australia as well. It's happening that socialist, liberal, godless left could not really shift and change the culture as they wish. So they had to import the votes from the end of the world. They found a perfect alliance between Islam and socialism between violent Islam and godless leftism. And that unholy alliance is a friend. The enemy of my enemy is my friend. We can clearly see Zohram Bebtani is a Muslim who is queers for Palestine, who is gay for Gaza where if you take those gays to Gaza, they will not be alive for very, very long. But that alliance hinges on the reality. Islam and godless leftism, it hates Christianity because it hates freedom. And that is the reason it hates America. And it hates success. And it's so resentful at how great of a country America has been, how great the West has been. And that's kind of, I think, the great thing that binds them together when they have so many rational reasons to hate each other. Resentment. It's this resentment driven ideology. Why does Islam despise the West? Islam sees itself as a warrior religion. It's founded in warfare. Muhammad is a warrior. The early Muslims are warriors and they win. They win over and over. Except they did in Europe. No, they didn't. But they spread all over the world overnight. You can understand how they would say, God must have done this because we conquered. And then for the last 600 years, they've just been getting wrecked over and over again. They fell behind. So they're very upset about this. And it's the same way that this is why they hate Israel so much. Israel just beats them in every conflict ever. Because they just better science and technology. Yes. Islam is a very ridiculous. Science better technology. And a better society. They fight better. Well, so, yeah. Sorry, I'm into the right people. And so that's the Islamic half. And then you have the Marxist half, which is that it's that classic bio-Leninism thing. It's a lot of people. They're resentful. Why am I not in charge of things? Why am I not super wealthy? Why do I have to have a job and work? It's the screaming rage of people who see a functional middle class family and they can't handle it and they go off the deep end. It just occurred to me the humility of a capitalist system. The humility that is willing to say we are not going to try and engineer the results. That we understand hierarchies are inevitable, right? That we understand, you know, people born at the same position with the same parents are going to end up in different places. If you don't work, you don't eat. Yes. As Winston Churchill said, socialism is a gospel of empathy. And I love Charlie's favorite four words, earn it. Capitalism is a gospel of earn it. If you don't work, you don't eat. The Bible said a man who doesn't work and doesn't provide for his family is worse than an unbeliever. But that's a problem. People want results without work. They want the fruit without the pathway. So you end up with this very utopian gospel, the gospel of socialism. And dude, you guys need to look at Australia because we're socialists. Yeah. We're socialists all the way. So you don't need play for the visit. The thing is about America, you don't need to try stuff. You already have Europe. You already have UK. You already have France and you already have Sydney. So Sydney, where the second most expensive first world country state to live in in the whole entire world were more expensive than Hong Kong. So in Australia, we have 275 acres per person. So it's a lot of land. As you said, we are very resourceful. We have uranium. We have cobalt. We have minerals. We have everything in the whole entire world that we literally have now a socialist government. It's literally sucking up the economy drive. The average house is 13.5. The average wage. That's like California. So in order for you to buy a house in Australia, you need 30 years to save for the house. Why can't you? I feel like Australia should be able to build houses. It seems like they have space. Socialism is ugly. So the difference between us and America after World War II, we took the welfare state road. America took the capitalism, free market, work hard, make it happen. Wall Street Journal, New York paradoxically enough is run by socialists now. You guys took the hard work road. We took the welfare state, big government socialism road, us in England. And now we're at the end of it. You can't build anything. You can't do anything. You can't buy a house. The fuel here is everything in America is very cheap. We get taxed 45% of your income. The big topic here is affordability and inflation. Well, hold on. We get taxed too, though. Really bad. No, but it's then, okay, but if you're in California, then you might have another, if you're the top bracket, you might have another 13%. So essentially, and in America, I think that what there is really bad is the sense that your taxes go to services you 100% can't use. So if you're in a huge portion of America, you pay a large amount of taxes for public schools and the public schools are functionally unusable to you if you are a responsible parent and then you pay the double tax of often private schooling. But by the way, that's beyond your income tax. That is a property tax. Yeah, property tax. And then you have property tax on top of income tax and top of state tax. Or taxes to subsidize public transport that you feel is unsafe to use. And then never mind all the, you know, Infinity Somali daycares, Infinity Autism Centers. We have that stuff a lot of Australia. Everything is for free. It's not, but this is the reality. And that's where Kristen then provide the framework. If God asks people for 10% of the income, how dare the government ask for 30 to 50% This is why the more America drives away from Christendom, the more taxation you will have. Godlessness produces atheism, atheism produces Darwinism. Darwinism in politics becomes socialism because you need to help the little monkey that can't help himself because the big guy, the big corporate guy is the lion that's controlling the jungle. You kind of need to make the system equitable. So the reality is the more America goes away from church, the more taxation you're going to have and the more governmental, unethical, immoral spending. And we're watching that in Australia, the less church attendance, our church attendance in Australia is 5% in America, 30%. The more people, the less people go to church, the more taxes we get. There is a correlation between socialism and atheism, Christianity and low taxation, because Christianity will believe in self-government, individual liberty, it's your money. If you don't work, you don't eat. We believe that we want families to own homes. We want young people to build wealth. The Bible said a godly person leaves inheritance for the generation. We don't want to tax people's wealth. We want families that work hard to build their wealth, pass their legacy from generation to generation. The reality is we need the recalibration of our economical philosophical system to realize if God asked for 10%, I believe anything beyond 10% from government theft. I totally agree. I totally agree. And I think what we've seen, especially with the Somali fraud rings, is that the more you bloat your government, the more you grow it, the more bad actors are going to come in and they're going to, they're going to build you. They're going to, they're going to, the graft will just grow and increase. And I completely agree with the less churched, the more socialist. It's a complete correlation. By the way, the less church, the less children, the less marriages, the less businesses candidly. So I'm with you 100%. So I wanted to keep you just a little bit longer here, Andrew, because you know, Pastor Andrew Sedra, by the way, Pastor out of Sydney, which is really, really fun. You guys close with Charlie. Iran. Tell us what you know about Iran because there's, I mean, we're hearing reports that there's like tens and tens of thousands of dead protesters. Yes. So Iran is a very interesting case study. And I think America needs to watch it very closely because you had the gay socialist communist alliance in 1979 mixed with Islam. So you literally had does a Haram and Danny moment. So that was 1979. You had the very weak president, Jimmy Carter, who ended up supporting the revolution. Before, you know, Iran went from a secular gay state like New York to a Muslim state. So Iran, it's one of those very sad, horrific cases of a reasonably free, prosperous nation falling into Islamic jihad only 50 years ago. Now Iran, it's again, it's different from the Middle East because it has been Muslim only for 50 years. So Islam is there by power, top down, but at the bottom, they're not fully there yet. So it's different to Egypt. Egypt became Muslim in 680. So it has been Muslim for 1400 years. So 70 to 80 people in Egypt want to reallore. So you want to, if George Bush wants to free Egypt, people are not interested. It's like when you gave God's and the freedoms to vote and they voted for Hamas. It's like, what the heck? That was the first and last election they ever had. So Iran isn't that it's a very technical spot. It's very strategic from a war P.F.E. because if it becomes more free, you kind of have more power in that region. China is very connected to Iran. It really is the access that hold the power across the region. So I think it's a very complicated one. I would love Iran to be free, but you got the Islamic jihadist. You got the communist, the communist regime somewhere there. Like if you tomorrow kill that guy, the main guy and you just stabilize the region, we don't actually know who's going to rise. But then you also have the underground church, which is growing. Yes, it is. By the way, I just spent time with a pastor that's doing Street of Angels in there and he said after Charlie died, it's like they're all lions. They were so bold like lions going out in the street in Iran. And we have one minute left and we got to switch over. I just wanted to give you a time. Yeah. So you got that mix, mix with the current young people revolting. They want freedom. Again, Americans, you're building mosques in New York and Florida and in Texas. Look what's happening over there. That Islamic dictator is killing thousands of people. And you need to understand it's cold blood. People have been protesting free Palestine, free Palestine, free Palestine. I'm like, dude, Iran has killed at least the same people, not in war against their citizens in three weeks. And to be conservative 10 K, it's probably way more than that. But I think Iran is a warning to America of we need to deal with Islam and socialism because it was 1979. It's not the ancient world. And secondary quickly. Yeah, we need to pray for Iran. It breaks my heart coming from that world, watching people fight for the freedom. Hi, folks. Andrew Colvet here. I'd like to tell you about my friends over at Y-Refy. You've probably been hearing me talk about Y-Refy for some time now. We are all in with these guys. If you or someone you know is struggling with private student loan debt, take my advice and give them a call. Maybe you're behind on your payments. Maybe you're even in default. You don't have to live in this nightmare anymore. 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It's going great. So listen, we like to do these segments from time to time because hearing from students is really important. Get your perspective on where you're at, what you're thinking, what you're seeing. So I'm going to start with Edward. This is a Minnesota Connection Academy and Inver Hills Community College. A lot of the news right now is about ICE. It's about DHS, Minneapolis, Minnesota. Tell me what your thoughts are on, you know, be Alex Pretty. So he's packing firearm. He initiates an altercation, a confrontation of some sorts with law enforcement. Do you think that's a good idea? What are kids saying? What are you thinking? Well, thank you, Andrew, for having me on. I really appreciate it and I appreciate the question. Simple answer. It's a terrible idea to start an altercation with firearm on you. I recently turned 18. I've been carrying every day since my birthday and I am never going to pick a fight with law enforcement with my firearm on me. It's a terrible idea in the first place because these people are the good guys. They are the ones preserving the cohesion of our society and upholding law and order. And those are not the people that you should be starting an altercation with. It's going to be a degratory to the cohesion of our republic. But then you add to that the betrayal of your Second Amendment liberties by putting law enforcement in a situation where they have to treat you as a greater threat given that you have a firearm and you're attempting to actually creating an escalated physical altercation. It's a terrible idea all around and I was disappointed to see that. Alex Pretty absolutely has a Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms and a First Amendment right to peacefully assemble. And you can exercise both those rights together. But he betrayed those liberties by starting an altercation with those law enforcement officers. Thank you. So I want to throw a question here to Hailey. First of all, thank you for coming on. I know you have to be. It can be very nerve wracking because you're the high school here. So you're at Canyon del Oro in Tucson, the Tucson area. And I'm told you've been seeing anti-ice walkouts in your school itself. You can tell me. And then that there's been, I guess, just described the environment in a high school setting right now regarding ice, regarding walkouts, regarding immigration generally. Yeah. So our school personally has not had a walkout yet. But there's definitely, like in a lot of other schools, those have happened just around Tucson and Arizona themselves. And then especially at my school, CDO, we just got Club America approved. And it's been a big issue at school and everything. Just things are super heightened. And I think a big issue right now, just with high school students, is a lot of it, people are trying to frame it as civic engagement. And really, it's more, a lot of what they're doing is just activism without any understanding. So a lot of people are seeing this Club America, this Instagram post that we posted, just welcoming a new club, letting people be aware that this is happening. And just the amount of just rude, uneducated hate comments, DMs I've gotten, just the gossip around school of what's going on. It's these people haven't even given it a chance. They don't even know really what this is about. We haven't even had our first meeting yet. And all these people are just giving so much hate. And they just don't even really, most of them are not even educated. They don't even know what's going on. And so I think that's just been a big issue is a lot of just teachers and staff as well, just kind of empowering these students, framing it, manipulating it as like civic engagement. When really, I just think it's just activism without any understanding. So is it just, is there any, is the school just overtly endorsing this? Are the teachers all overtly endorsing it? What's the, I guess for that, but what's the propaganda environment like within your school? Yeah. So I definitely, a lot of issues that even came with starting Club America was actually through the teachers. There were a lot of teachers who I had conversations with that just were not on board with this and are telling our students just that this is not, this is like a hateful thing that's going on. It's not something that we should be having. So a lot of it definitely starts with our staff and starts with our teachers and just not even giving us as students our own voice and our own opinion, but just shutting it down because they're in a position of authority. A lot of students like us, we rely on those teachers for grades and we have future ahead of us for college. So we really don't want to upset the people who are kind of hold that authority over us. So I think a lot of students are just following what the staff, what authority is telling us. And so yeah, just mainly with the staff, just not allowing us, just thinking it's a terrible thing. I know Tucson Unified School District even just sent out a message to Superintendent saying that they may have to cancel school tomorrow because too many teachers are calling out for this protest against ICE. Things like that where it's like really we have no control over what's going on because they hold the position, they hold the authority at our schools. Haley, I'm so bummed out to hear that. I'm sad for you, but I'm proud of you as well. I'm very proud of you. So keep up the good fight and keep your courage. But I want to throw it to Pastor Andrew Sedra. Maybe just give her a word of encouragement as they're facing this pushback. You guys are amazing. You guys are fighting the good fight. You guys are leading by conviction and courage just like Charlie Kirk will live in a moment of time where the left doesn't multiply in the bedroom. They multiply in the classroom as they always do. And it is very encouraging watching you guys stand for your faith, stand for your freedom and actually be like Daniel Shadrach, Michigan, a Bendigo. The faith and the midst of a culture where young people are fundamentally indoctrinated. Good job. You got to be very amazing leaders that would change the world. The fact that you are able to go against the grain, not go with the next social justice hype. It means that you have the potential and the anointing and the gift and the character to lead this nation to a very, very, very great place. So I want to encourage you and I do think we need to kind of, we need an investigation across the West to the indoctrination of young people. I totally agree. Because it doesn't make sense. We've observed, you know, in the wake of Charlie's assassination and we've seen it now, some comments made about Stephen Miller, about ICE agents, it's public school teachers and nurses and sometimes doctors. I don't know what it is, but there's probably just a lot of them. There's two professions. There's just, yeah, you might just be a shared numbers game. So it's a liberal empathy, nurturing of women. I stop of roles going in the wrong direction to think that your kid is their kid. Yeah. It's like, I want my kid to learn math and science, not gay agenda, immigration and politics. And that's why I think Charlie was murdered because he was literally changing the mind of the young people. I want to loop in our other two chapter heads here. I believe they're both chapter heads. So Caroline or Emma here, either of you can take this. You guys are on college campuses. We saw last year there was a big swing of young people more towards, sympathy towards Meg, towards President Trump, towards the message Charlie was selling. We also see some evidence in the polls. There might be a swing back. They're very mercurial. And so either of you can take this. What is the environment you're seeing on campus both overall and within more conservative spaces? How are those students reacting to it? Do they seem braver than you might have expected? Are they getting intimidated like they might have been a few years ago? I don't think there's a lot of intimidation here in Tennessee. Luckily enough, we are a primarily conservative campus at the University of Tennessee. And most of Tennessee also is read throughout. We don't see ICE officers being shot in Nashville. We're actually seeing dropping numbers of murders in Memphis. And that's mainly because we are a state that's not a sanctuary state. We're not accepting migrants from illegal migrants to stay and exist in our state illegally. So the students, however, have overwhelmingly, let me know that they do not support having illegals in our country. They are fully in support of ICE. We do sometimes see some students who sort of stay behind the screen that would promote attacking ICE, but we haven't seen anything in Knoxville or the greater Tennessee area that would prove that. And it's so Caroline as well, right? University of Georgia. So we've got Knoxville and Georgia. I love it. Athens is a little bit of a different scene right now. I think we're seeing a lot of walkouts from classes, a lot of protests in the downtown area. Students are not taking well to that scene in Minneapolis right now at all. We have a lot of support for ICE as a club in general, but outside of the club, there's not a lot of support for ICE on this campus at all. So what messages are they hearing? Where are they getting this information? Maybe just filling some of the gaps there. What's influencing these people? It seems like most of the information is coming from misinformation on social media. They see the clip video. They don't see the full video. They see kind of what they want to see instead of actually seeing and learning and educating themselves and doing the research. I think we've also painted this picture of ICE for them, or other people have, as the super evil organization that's ripping children from their homes and ripping families apart. And that's just not the case. And I think we really have to do a better job of educating people on what ICE actually is and what they're actually doing. But I mean, the scene here is really discouraging, but I would say there's so much support on campus for Charlie's legacy. And a lot of people have really started to want to get involved after the passing of Charlie Kerr. And it's truly inspiring. And there's a lot of work here to do, but I'm really glad to be at the forefront. I've been really blessed. Let's go around the horn really quick. I want to start back with you, Edward. And just if, okay, we've got, this is a midterm year. So, you know, I'm going to talk politics, but this is your personal opinion. This is not C3 stuff, but personal opinion. So you're on campus. If you had a word for the administration heading into the midterms or candidates that are running, what are young kids, what do they care about on your campus? What could the conservative movement do better right now? Awesome. Well, thank you for the question. I think from what I've seen and the people that I'm associating with, it goes back to James Carville. It's the economy stupid. We want to make sure that the economy's strong going into midterms. And then that's pretty much the biggest issue going into midterms that students want to make sure is strong. It's jobs. When you graduate kind of thing, internships, opportunities, feeling like your degree's going to matter kind of. There's some worry about the AI bubble and the potential for greater inflation moving into midterms. So if we could put some assurance surrounding the Federal Reserve and taxation and making sure that inflation is going to remain low, those are the core points that students on campus in Minnesota that I've interacted with are worrying about right now. Haley, what about your high school student? What's going into the midterms? What's the vibe? Yeah. I can say really that a lot of our students are even educated enough to really care. I think a lot of the things that they're talking about are just like things that they're just hearing on the Internet. But I would say right now in high school, especially, it's just immigration, like what we've been seeing recently and just how a bunch of us younger students who may not be as educated are just rejecting law enforcement. And I guess how we can kind of push back on that and how we can be educated on, you know, that we can be in support of legal immigration and then also recognize that fighting against law enforcement is not the right thing to do and that interfering with them doing their jobs is only going to create this chaos that we're seeing and that really these shootings that are happening are not just one-sided and that something is going on behind the scenes to kind of affect what's going on in the immigration. Yeah, that's a good insight. That's a really good insight. Caroline, you're at the University of Georgia and you said there's all these like walkouts and a lot of anti-ice energy. I mean, do they remember Lake and Riley at the University of Georgia? Is she still a person that people are talking about there? Because I wonder how they square that circle or circle that square. That's exactly the question a lot of us are asking right now at Turning Point. They were actually organizing a 5K with some other groups on campus. I think it's called Run For Your Life. It's going to be an awesome event. I believe it's on February 21st, but it'll definitely be on our socials if anyone's interested in that. Yeah, I really don't know. I'm in shock also. I mean, I don't know how we go from seeing a girl basically my age be viciously murdered by an illegal immigrant in our own city and then now we're supporting people doing this kind of thing to ICE agents who are just trying to protect our country and protect citizens of America. Especially as a woman seeing that happen to someone my age, it's frightening. And I think we should be in support of people who want to keep us safe from that kind of thing. And I really think that our campus is just in a real mess and we have a lot of work to do still. All right. Now, you, Emma, your last, what is dominating the midterm vibes among young people in Knoxville? Yeah, well, kind of like Edward said, talking about the economy, but more specifically, the affordability for housing and buying homes. I'm actually graduating in the next semester and looking into the near future, it kind of seems impossible to achieve that American dream of being a homeowner. And I think that that's a deeper issue than a lot of people might realize on the surface because you have all these young people in America who don't have, they don't own anything. They don't have stake in anything. And I think that makes it difficult to really feel like you have ownership in your country, that you're an actual citizen of your country. And to be proud of your country when you feel like everything is being taken by different, taken from your hands different ways. I also think that that also impacts the family, the nuclear family. You can't raise three kids in an apartment. That's just not ideal. So it does make it harder for people to start families, continue growing our country. So it is a deeper issue than people realize. Well, Emma, I think that's great. And I just wanted to say, if you're just graduating, you do have a little time to, you know, on the home buying and the, and that starting to get, but don't panic. Yeah, don't panic yet. But the, but your concern is legitimate and it's, and it's well, it's well made. President Trump just passed a very awesome bill or law a few days ago where he banned big corporation institutionally buying single family. What was it? A bill. He's looking to it. He's inspiring you to it. I'm like, that's amazing. No, that will free the market for young people to actually well, and Charlie, Charlie talked a lot about an economic moonshot for Gen Z and that is build five, 10 million new homes, block institutional money, block foreign money, make sure that it's open to young, young immigration. So you don't overwhelm the housing market, supply and demand. Exactly. Yeah. And I think all of these things are, are, are making, we're making good progress, but we're not there yet. I think these concerns that you guys are voicing are, are, are apt and they're really, they're really important. It was stuff Charlie talked about, by the way. Blake, I don't know if you have a follow up here, but we've got two minutes. I wish we had a little more time because I'd love to poke more at that AI thing because I'm very fascinated by how young people relate to artificial intelligence. Do you remember, you remember the last time we did one of these, it was all about H1Bs. Do you guys talk about H1Bs within the club or within, within the chapter? For Minnesota specifically, and at my chapter, I know that we still discuss that. We still discuss the avenues of legal immigration. Yeah. What about the ladies in the, in the panel? Because the last time it was, it dominated our conversation. I think we definitely have a mixed, there's, there's mixed views on whether we should be having more or having less or just leaving it the same because there are pros and cons of course to both, but I hear a lot of different things from different students. It just kind of depends definitely a mix. Yeah. I think with AI is going to be a different issue. I think about that, a friend of mine, he just said that kids at the campus, he's at, he works on a Christian ministry there and he says they need AI to tell them what questions to ask in class. And that concept had not occurred to me until I heard that and it filled me with a little bit of a mistake. I wish I had AI when I was in school. That would have solved a lot of my problems. The lack of critical thinking skills though that, that AI could give rise to is terrifying. Which is why we need, all of you guys, we need to, we need to fight against group think on campus. We made progress last year, but it does, it roars back over and over again. So we thank all of you for standing guard in the permanent vigil for Liberty. Yeah, thank you guys. Thank you for making the time and as you hear more about walkouts as well, Hayley, we want to hear about those because in Phoenix here it's just, it's going crazy. So not a good sign. Not a good sign. All right, God bless you guys and stay safe and stay vigilant. And we thank you for all of your great service at Turning Point Chapters across the country. And Pastor Andrew Sedra, thank you for spending the whole hour with us. Thank you guys. Thank you. What a blessing. For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to charliekirk.com.