The Confused Breakfast

Mystery, Alaska (1999)

100 min
Mar 19, 20262 months ago
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Summary

The Confused Breakfast podcast hosts discuss the 1999 film Mystery, Alaska, a Disney sports drama about a small Alaskan town's hockey team challenging the New York Rangers. The hosts analyze the film's character development, cinematography, and emotional resonance, debating whether it succeeds as both a sports movie and a human story about community identity and personal growth.

Insights
  • Sports films with strong character development and emotional depth resonate more durably than plot-driven narratives, even when the sports outcome is secondary to personal arcs
  • Small-town settings and community rituals create powerful cinematic backdrops that enhance storytelling authenticity without requiring major production polish
  • The film's refusal to deliver a conventional victory ending strengthens its emotional impact by emphasizing pride and personal growth over external validation
  • Ensemble casts with lesser-known actors create more believable small-town dynamics than star-studded lineups, allowing audiences to invest in characters rather than celebrity personas
  • Outdoor filming locations and natural lighting provide superior cinematic depth compared to controlled arena environments, making sports sequences feel more organic and immersive
Trends
1990s sports films prioritized character-driven narratives over spectacle, contrasting with modern sports movie trends toward highlight-reel editing and viral momentsEarnest, unpolished storytelling in niche sports films develops cult followings and sustained rewatchability despite mixed critical receptionSmall-town identity and community pride narratives resonate across generations as audiences seek escapism from digital connectivity and globalizationOutdoor sports cinematography using practical effects and location shooting creates authenticity that CGI-enhanced modern productions struggle to replicateDisney's willingness to produce R-rated sports content in the late 1990s reflected different content standards and audience expectations than contemporary family-friendly branding
Topics
Sports film cinematography and outdoor hockey filming techniquesCharacter-driven narrative structure in ensemble sports moviesSmall-town community identity and ritual significance in storytellingComing-of-age and aging-out themes in sports narrativesRomantic subplots and infidelity in character developmentCoach-player relationship dynamics and mentorship arcsExhibition games and professional sports logisticsNostalgia marketing and cult film statusCasting decisions for authenticity vs. star powerTone balance between comedy and drama in sports filmsThird-act speech moments and emotional climaxesUnderdog narratives and defeat as character victoryLocation shooting vs. studio production trade-offs1990s Disney content standards and rating decisionsLocker room culture and male bonding in sports
Companies
Disney
Produced and distributed Mystery, Alaska as an R-rated sports film in 1999, representing the studio's willingness to ...
New York Rangers
Featured as the opposing professional hockey team in the film; actual Rangers declined to participate in the movie pr...
People
Russell Crowe
Starred as Maximus, the team captain and emotional center of the film, delivering a leadership-focused performance ea...
Bert Reynolds
Played Judge Burns, the curmudgeonly coach; experienced on-set conflict but remained professional throughout production
Hank Azaria
Portrayed Charlie Danner, the antagonist sports journalist; known for extensive voice work on The Simpsons and dramat...
Mary McCormick
Played John's wife Donna; delivered grounded, authentic performance that elevated the film's emotional resonance and ...
Mike Myers
Provided comedic commentary as sports broadcaster Donnie Schultz; created memorable character work with Canadian hock...
Jay Roach
Directed the film; known for comedy work on Meet the Parents franchise and later dramatic work on Bombshell
David E. Kelly
Co-wrote and produced the film; son of an NHL executive, bringing authentic hockey background to the screenplay
Mike Schulte
Primary host leading the episode discussion and analysis of Mystery, Alaska
Sean Pryor
Co-host providing film production details, cast information, and critical analysis throughout the episode
AJ Vins
Co-host contributing audience reception analysis, critical reviews, and personal film interpretation
Dylan Mick
Selected Mystery, Alaska for episode coverage and provided detailed written analysis and nostalgia context
Peter Deming
Cinematographer known for work on Evil Dead 2, Twin Peaks, and other visually distinctive projects
Carter Burwell
Film composer known for extensive work with Coen Brothers and other acclaimed directors
Little Richard
Made cameo appearance as himself in the film, performing during the Rangers' arrival sequence
Phil Esposito
NHL legend and commentator who appeared in the film, lending authenticity to hockey scenes
Quotes
"It's the Rocky of hockey movies. Some would say that, you know, there's not a lot of boxing or a lot of hockey. But when you get it, when you get it, post that on the poster, probably."
Mike SchulteEarly episode discussion
"This is the definition of a no win situation for an NHL team. You either go and win, which means everybody will go, oh, wow, they won. Like we knew they would win. Or you lose because this other team is so good and motivated. And now you look like complete horses."
Mike SchulteRangers logistics discussion
"These are real, these real situations of life and like these people are all growing as the movies going on and people are at different stages of this."
AJ VinsCharacter development analysis
"It's earnest without being corny, sentimental without completely losing its footing, and funny in that dry small town way where half the jokes feel like they were born in a bar after midnight."
Dylan MickFinal analysis segment
"I think it's a little rough around the edges and still manages to make you care, and this one has that quality."
Dylan MickModern assessment
Full Transcript
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Join today for free! Go to www.racketin.co.uk or get the app. That's R-A-K-U-T-E-N. Oh my gosh, welcome you all to the confused breakfast, the podcast where we hit pause on the chaos of today and rewind to a simpler time when it wasn't about the convenience of streaming platforms. No, no, no! It was about the experience. Remember the magic of a Pride 8? Pride 8? Yeah. Yeah, 3, 2, 1. Do you remember the magic of a Friday night trip to the video rental store? Pride is my favorite day. Do you remember plontering the aisles and making the bragged decisions? Are you okay? I'm not! Do you remember making the big decision on what movie is going to come home with you? We're all part of the last generation that knows the joy of the search, the snap of the plastics, clamshells, and we're here to revisit the movies. Let me take one more step of this Cedar Ridge real quick. King Sherry. Right? We're here to revisit the movies that shaped us and defined our childhoods. My name is Mike Schulte, joining me as always, to do, to know what is said in this room, stays in this room. Sean Pryor and AJ Vins, how the heck are ya? That's a little complicated, right? Because as we talk, we're going to put this out to the world. Oh shoot, you're right. I meant before the recording hits. Oh, 100%. We say some weird stuff. We have a lot of good takes. In fact, if Logan knew what was good for him, he would record everything we say in this room and then blackmail us. Absolutely. Yeah, he could make a lot of money. He could. We would spend so many dollars just to not let it get out. It would be a mystery. We'd have to move to Alaska. I'll ask ya. I'll ask ya a dumb question and your answer will be stupid. You know what? We've been here for a long time. We've been enjoying some big Grove beers, specifically neighborhood beer. One of our favorites. This is what I imagine you're going to drink when you're in a warm cabin in Alaska. When you're not playing hockey and you're not fornicating, you're drinking neighborhood beer. Absolutely. It's the only cool things to do in wintertime. Oh, 100%. It's pretty much it. I mean, Iowa gets pretty close to Alaska temperatures. It really does. Let's be real. So thanks to our friends at Big Grove. So Sean, I know you love Patreon more than anything. I do. And you're so happy that our friends are there supporting us. That's the best way to support this show. I love putting out extra content for those folks who pay their hard earned dollars just to hear us talk a little bit more about probably innocuous things. And I forgot to post one last week and I'm killing myself for it. It's okay. They're going to get two this week. Yeah. Yeah. So, thanks for joining us on upcoming movies, patreon.com. My friends, on today's episode, we're going to talk about one of the most underrated sports movies of all time. This movie made us want to skate the river, get called up to the Saturday game and live peacefully and sexually charged lives in small town Alaska in the wintertime. We're of course talking about 1999's Mystery Alaska. Well, damn dang it. Ladies and gentlemen. It's time for another nostalgic journey to the past with the confused breakfast. Sit back, relax and enjoy wherever you are in the world. Take it away boys. So we're going to talk about it a little bit with nostalgia so that we can provide the base of our conversation when we dissect this modern day scene by scene eye by eye, fart by fart. We're going to start with Sean. Sean tells the first time you saw this movie, what your nostalgic thoughts were is was why. Every time I perused a video rental store, I saw this cover and it always jumped out at me and it always stuck with me. And that's why I had never seen it before because it's only just the cover. So you liked it, but you just never grabbed it. I never grabbed it. Didn't know what it was about. I thought it was like a legit like Disney movie like Miracle. I could see how you could think that it wasn't into sports at the time did not was not going to pick this up. I'm going to pick up fucking running scared for this fourth time. Obviously. Yeah. And for Sean, AJ, have you seen this movie? Yeah, I remember seeing this actually and being really excited about, you know, just the classic take on USA versus Russia. And and then I and then I realized that's not what this is. It's not. And so I have also not seen it. That's wildly impressive. The fact that you guys have not seen this movie. It is widely regarded as one of the top hockey movies, really. There are a lot of good hockey movies out there. I definitely saw this not my favorite at the time when I did see it, because I kind of was also expecting more of like a mighty ducks or more of a miracle. Yeah. This this is sort of like Field of Dreams in a way where it is a sports movie about hockey, but a lot of it is more life and there's some adult stuff to it. So when I saw it, it was OK. I like the hockey scenes, maybe not enough hockey scenes. The rest of it was like, ah, it's kind of boring. Get to the fun stuff when the Rangers show up. It's kind of like the Rocky of hockey movies. Some would say that, you know, there's not a lot of boxing or a lot of hockey. But when you get it, when you get it, post that on the poster, probably. We should put that on the poster. The Rocky of hockey movies. Yeah. It's the Rocky of hockey. I'm going to give it a seven nostalgically for myself. We got an executive producer today, Dylan Mick. He picked this and said, we got to do this movie, which is his right. He said, I can't recall the first time I saw this movie. I just know it was before I had reached high school and likely on one of the movie channels like USA or TNT or TBS were as full of commercials. Reason being, I don't remember this much swearing. Christ sakes. I do recall really enjoying it. Hockey was not part of the available sports I could play growing up. But the combination of this movie, slap shot and the mighty ducks movies made me wish I could have lots of the non hockey stuff fell by the wayside as a youth for me watching this. But my big takeaways were Judge Burns is exactly the grumpy ass old coach I want to play for. Maximus is a hell of a captain. Hank Azaria is funny in everything. I'm a huge Simpsons fan and that you should never give the Rangers too much respect as the sports not growing up and still this ranked high for me. 8.1 for what said in the room stays in the room. So between us, we are a 7.57 on the nostalgia meter. It's going to be decent. That's going to actually put it all alone in the 80th spot. We do think that Wayne's World and Encino Man are better movies. Nostalgia. We think this is better than office space and major league. Nostalgia. Wow. Nostalgia. OK. OK. But obviously that doesn't matter anymore because we're going to go full modern eye on this bad boy. All right. Sean's going to start us off. We need important details of the movie. What do you got produced by Howard Baldwin and David E. Kelly written by David E. Kelly and Sean O. Byron Senate cinematography by Peter Deming kind of a legend. Evil Dead 2. My cousin Vinny son-in-law fucking lost highway scream to law. I said lost highway twice. Mohalin Drive I heart Huckabees. And the series Twin Peaks. Sean Eddied by John Paul. He also did camp nowhere. I think they fan of that. And most recently the roses. Music by Carter Burwell a legend. He did a lot of the Coen Brothers stuff. Wayne's World to airheads and Ites Tale music supervisor extraordinaire. Yeah. Just overall great composer. Directed by Jay Roach. He did meet the parents and meet the Fockers bombshell. And most recently the roses. Cass Russell Crowe Hank Azaria Mary McCormick Bert Reynolds. Cole Meany Lolita Davidovich. Maury Chakin Ron Eldard Ryan Northcott. Michael Bowie Kevin Durand Scott Grimes. Leroy Peltier Adam Beach. Michael McKean Beth Littleford Mike Myers Phil Esposito and little Richard. Little. It's kind of funny how if they're like hockey names, then I can pronounce them. Yeah. But Esposito, you should not be able to pronounce that. But you can't Peltier. I should not be able to. Yeah. The film's producers were once owners of the Pittsburgh penguins and formerly the Whalers. Cool. Uh-huh. The writer, David E. Kelly was the son of an NHL executive. I'm feeling there's not much research. Writer, David Kelly said the film was a combination between picket fences and the mighty ducks when director J. Roach came on board to direct the film was being it was being called the game at the time, not to mystery, Alaska to avoid confusion with David Fincher film. They did change it to mystery. Alaskan. Good job. The film was shot primarily in Banff National Park, Alberta, Canada, Canmore, Alberta, Alberta, Canada and Alberta, Canada. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Mystery Alaska was released on October 1st, 1999. And on a budget of 28 million, the film only made 8.9 million at the box office. But it's gone on to be somewhat of a cult hit. There is a whole oral history of this movie on a website somewhere that I found. When you click on it, it leads nowhere. It's a blank page. Thank you very much. Yep. Well, thanks, Sean. Now we got to go to AJ. We got to find out why it tanked. What were the fan critical reactions? What were they? What the fuck ass of a bum fuck shit whole website is this? It's the Tomato Meter. Grills. Right. I don't agree with the tomato. I mean, it's like, well, I have. I have the people online that are like rotten tomatoes is wrong. It's like, well, it's not like rotten tomatoes is going. This is our radio. It's a culmination of like everyone that reviewed this movie has come up with. And also, you don't have to give a shit about it. No, I do. Much like this town. True. It's just a culmination of all the things. It's 36 percent. Splat. It's a sport. A little better than last week, but that is tied with super troopers. Of all the movies we've done. Troops. Big difference here, 66 from the popcorn meter and a 6.7 on IMDB. Six. Tied with Armageddon and Rummy. Rummy, man. Rummy, man. Oh, OK. No, it's a self whiskey, man. Yeah, we used to do this all the time. We haven't done it in a while. We did. We didn't have a like a warm up of Patreon brunch thing. You know, we should have done that. That's true. It would have helped me out. I know that. Well, you'll see. Lou Lumineck at the New York Post. Does it does offer some solid laughs, engaging performances and its captivating setting. Paul Nechak in Seattle, post intelligents, sir. Just newspaper guy. That is the good part about social media now days as you're like, Jim. Jim, Jim, Carp. Jim Carp says, oh, good movie. Yeah. Hey, good. Paul, here's the car facts. K. R. F. F. Just give me the car facts. Paula Nechak said Disney seems intent upon over dosing audiences with the little guy proving himself against the seemingly superior force. Wait, did you say Disney? The Disney. Is this a Disney movie? It is a Disney movie. I'm so confused. I know. So aren't we all? Liz Schwartzbaum. Entertainment Weekly. The enterprise. This enterprise might be called a picket fences on ice. OK. And yeah, they they described it as that. They did. They did. Yes. Remember my segment earlier? Yes. Schwartzbaum. Schwartzbaum. It was riveting. Philadelphia Inquirer, yet another Hollywood serving of every man pluck in the sports division. And Hazel Don Dumpert. It's fun. H.D. Dumpert. Gross. From LA Weekly, just called it thoroughly mediocre. OK. Two stars, you would think that a hockey movie starring Russell Crow and Bert Reynolds would be an absolute slam dunk, but the wulfal comedy. Wrong. Wait, wait, wait, wait. That's wrong. No. You would not think that like slam dunk. No, you had your chance. You had your real slap shot like a real post ringer. A bar down. You know, that's I like that. First of all, no. Second of all, what? A real one timer. Like. No, not that. You want to watch it multiple times. Oh, man. It just OK. A real overtime winner. I don't know. Slap dunk. Fuck you, Griffin. Oh, my gosh. But but this a woeful, attempted comedy mix of the forgettable supporting cast drags it down to the depth of a two star rating and no one liking it on Letterboxed. This person said it could be mistaken for high school art. I'm going to go like it. Sorry, you're good. Pretty OK sports movie really could have done without all the drama about the T-Danger's premature ejaculation problem. It's important to the story. Never came. But hey, at least he did. This is called this. Sorry. How much of that did you pour yourself? It was big. He didn't read the proof before he poured it. There will be proof of. Jess said this is mystery Alaska starring Russell Crowe's sick flow. It was a great true pretty accurate. And then. Do you ever wonder if the dominance of Zamboni and the ice resurfacing vehicle market has nothing to do with superior technology of a smart branding, but rather the result of numerous Zamboni hit squads deployed from strategic Zamboni sites across the globe, finding interrogating and terminating any individual who might jeopardize Zamboni's iron grip. This is like Zamboni's as Skynet. Is that what we're talking about? All I could think of I really was. No. No, no, no, no, no, but good. But good comment. No, me neither. I was just asking. OK, this is a movie about come and a beautiful game on ice. I would absolutely live in Alaska. I love watching movies with my friends. 2024 is off to a grand start. Hell, yeah. All right. That's great news. Men are men are hottest when wearing 800 layers. And the top one is a cable knit jumper. All right. Let's see here. This is another my favorite. Slap. This is me. Slap shot. The mighty ducks are the best hockey movies ever. My wife, I disagree. They're both very good hockey movies, but I think Mystery Alaska and Miracle are the best hockey movies ever. Me, Mystery Alaska sucks. You know what? You suck. Fair enough. Let's just say what's what is important here is we move on to our important people in our little Lebowski urban achievers. Guys, make sure you're jumping in on the little Lebowski urban achievers. I want to read those right now on the air. Join our exclusive Discord channel. Let's get it done. Make sure to message us your screen name so we can get you on there. Thank you. Thank you. NYC Welder, a fan favorite at this point in our little Lebowski urban achievers. I am a huge hockey fan. Go devils. And as such, this movie was quickly one of my favorites. Russell Crowe at the height of his fame cast as a hockey player in Alaska. I am so in. I was so excited for this movie to come out. I saw it in theaters and was not disappointed. The way the movie starts is so beautiful. Hockey players skating full sprint down a frozen river goes so hard. The montage of the characters to the open, it's all perfect. Beautiful set pieces and excellent actors all doing work. The story is well crafted and the action scenes are powerful and full of weight. You can really feel what it takes to be to be these people. You never once questioned the pride these people have for themselves. Bert Reynolds has another stellar portrayal as the judge on the heels of his role from Boogie Nights. Bert nails his part with perfect with perfectly played stoicism. 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Before we get started on the scene by scene breakdown, I just wanted to say I'm sorry. The truth is, I don't really think about anything. I just podcast and I fornicate because they're the two most fun things to do in cold weather. And when I get too old to podcast, I'll probably be too old for fornicating too. So I really won't have much to live for. I didn't I didn't mean to hurt you. I know that you both being my partners in the same industry, I know that you both are I know that you both being my partners in this business. This episode is a real positive reflection on you. So I'm going to do everything I can to make this episode one of our best. For confused breakfast, for Brett Hall and for you. That's all I came to say. That's big of you, Mike. Thank you. Peter Forsberg. Seen one in the small, Alaskan town of mystery, hockey is life. Every Saturday, the town holds a game where local players compete in front of the entire town. Sheriff John Beebe plays in the weekly game while a town council decides who makes the roster. The team in the town are featured in a sports illustrated article written by former resident Charlie Danner. Tensions rise in town among the judge and his son, Skank in his fortification and John being off the team in favor of weeks. Would this ice be skatable at all? I wouldn't think so. You got to think you got a lot of wind coming through, moving some water going to be rough. I'm thinking in real life, no, but I'm thinking in in movie land world. This looks like the most beautiful place to ever go ice skating. Absolutely. Can you imagine? Can we can we just can we just take a moment to revel in the idea that that ice skating is maybe the primary form of travel through town and to get to town? Sure is. I mean, that's pretty awesome. This this town of Canmore, Alberta that they film this in, it it's so goddamn charming. The way they portray the town life, they got everything they needs right here. We don't need anything from the outside world. The views these people get to look at when they walk out their door, transportation of snowmobiles and ice skates. Like this is the dream until you realize in real life, like it's always below zero. There are 30 days probably where the sun barely comes up. But this movie does a really good job of making you not realize some of the negatives of what it would be like to live in the middle of Alaska. Yeah, you got to look out for vampires and stuff to. Could you guys do this? One, it being a small town like this, could you do that? And then on number two, it's called as fuck the entire time. I feel like this is Mike's favorite place in the world, potentially. Go on. I would enjoy. I'd like to think that I could live here. I've watched a lot of movies and TV shows where, you know, there's a little more isolation. You've got the small town aspect. I mean, it's a proven fact that humans were only supposed to know about this many people. Yeah. So like the idea of living there pre social media, not giving a shit what's going on in the rest of the world, having to wait for magazines to show up to learn anything. Helicopters in and out. I mean, like this is the older I get the dream of living somewhere like this is like hell, yeah. Yeah, I can be a I can be the person in my community that contributes in X way. And so everyone else in my community can support me in their ways that they work. Like it's a cool thing. Quite literally the epitome of community. You know what I mean? It's just like it's yeah, it is weird, right? I mean, our friend Tim from the midnight has moved to a small town and he's he's been kind of posting now kind of his small town or life. And I'm just like, I just that's what I want. I was like, I need I need all the stuff that I have to be gone. So I can have the few simple pleasures that I actually like enjoy and take advantage of. That's what I fucking want. And he's like up there living it. And that's what it seems like this town is like it's kind of like out cold. Another mountain town kind of vibe. Same. Same idea. I would I could absolutely do this like 10 months out of the year. Yes. The other two. Let me be able to go to like Arizona. January, February is not going to be great here. Yeah, let's just put it that way. Yeah, I like that. And like it being that this is I wrote down this is like old time hockey's whole aesthetic. Yeah, like he would thrive here. But this this game every every weekend that they have other other reason why I think it's Mike's, you know, yeah, how home this I guess I guess I get it. But I also kind of don't in the way that like there's nothing else going on. But just this game and I don't know. It is hard to grasp. It seemed a little foreign to me even even when the when this came out. It I don't know. It just seems like this wouldn't this wouldn't be this seems pretty movie like to me. Probably. But but also it's 2000 or 99. 99. Nothing's nothing's happening. You live here. Nothing happens other than fornication and hockey. You think these guys give a shit about Y2K like fuck dude. No, they don't even know what's going on. They don't even give it. They don't give a damn. But it's the tradition of it. If you have the right if you have the right town and the right people in the right mentality, a tradition will be preserved and will live on. So they've been doing this for who knows how long. And it's been this tradition of you dream about like getting to the game and you go with your family every Saturday to watch it. Dudes drinking beers out there. Warm sunshine like it looks it is unbelievable nowadays that this would happen. But like back then. Hell, yeah, it's it's their it's like their NHL. Thank you. Like I just imagine about like because they show the shots of like the town and everything you see that shot of the kids playing hockey in the background. Often the distance or something. And it's like all they're aspiring to be is like is is to be in the Saturday game like this week's kid, right. And all his friends and because they don't know any better. Yeah. Because there is no outside influence other than like somebody like Charlie Daner who had to get out, you know, get out of this small town to crush my soul. But probably because he couldn't skate very good. It was like a homosexual. Yeah. That's what it was. What he says was it was weird. How does that happen? Hard for me to get into it because I think I would have believed like all this. I would have believed all this setup. I think if there maybe was a different cast. OK, or something or like the way that it's told is just like it is very dignification. I didn't feel for some reason like a part of this town. And I really wanted to. I got what you're saying. I don't know why I can feel that. I think the first couple of times I did watch this. It was like, OK, yeah, that's pretty good. But you're right. It's it's just a story. It's like someone's telling you a story. You're not a part of the story. Just being told. It does seem like a fable. Yes, it does seem like someone's telling me kind of like it is a fiction story. And I wanted I wanted it to feel real. It really never does for me. One of the parts that kind of took me out of it in the sense like what you're talking about, like this fabled story is like when it's showing them practicing or the game, I think it actually is the game. The first the first game is the Saturday game. Yeah, they're in the locker room first and then they skate down. Right. Cool. A little. So cool. It's so awesome. And like, but I think they're showing that and they're talking about it. I think they're they might be reading some of it or like talking about the game and how it's like, you know, everything that's kind of leads to this game. There's this music over it that's like this kind of like fife. Yeah, like it's it's more like it seems very fable. But it's it's like it's like Native American Native American. It is kind of it's which is cool because that gives you the vibe that, hey, this is a longstanding thing that's been around for a long time. And that's where like it wasn't until so I saw that wasn't a big fan. And then they kind of start talking about how like they've been doing this since they since anybody's nose and to them, it's not just a game. It's like it's like a ritual. It's like a rite of passage. It's like, you know what I mean? So it's almost it is almost kind of like this. This new version of like, you know, becoming a man. It's like being able to join the Saturday game, you know. And I think that's the fun part of it. That is the fun aspect of it. And but it does still seem like I think I see where we're coming though coming from those, Sean, I get what you're saying. And it's like not even the cast, I don't think either, because I love this. Like Bert here is great. Honestly, I take it back. It could have been anybody else, but Bert, he's he's kind of like John Travolta in the Punisher. Same. He's like, like he lived here and like wanted to vacation to Alaska. And I'll take a role, whatever. Fine, whatever. Do a while I'm here. Yeah. I don't know. But all the other ancillary casts and everything, like what's like a lot of the, you know, Colm Colmini. Of course. I love Colmini. Really, really works here. What's the what's the guy who goes to his? That's Hank Azaria. No, Pruitt. The lawyer Bailey Pruitt. Ron Eldard, I think. No, that's not. It's it's it's Mr. Tipton from my cousin, Benny. Tipton. Tipton. He's great in this. Like those are that's some really good casting, I think, because I if it was like people like Russell Crowe after he did Gladiator, if it was like that sort of cast, I would have been kind of taken out of it, but it's more of like these kind of B level actors, which I think Crowe was not that big of a deal. That's what I'm saying. I think a reviewer said, oh, when Russell Crowe was in his, I don't think he was really that well known up into this point. I mean, I think I think he does it so well. And to be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if he got Gladiator based on this performance of leadership in the locker room. Kind of he speaks like Maximus in that locker room, man. And it's and I say that in a good way and like in a positive light. You know, Russell Crowe looks looks really good in this. Like and I totally see what they're saying. And I think some of the most unbelievable stuff in it is like, yeah, he's the one who's just going to have to take the bench. Yeah. It's like, what? Pretty good. Actually, when you watch him play here, yeah, oh, he missed the goal, but he had a sick pass. He's clearly a leader. This movie touches on a lot of hockey culture. Like, you know, it talks a lot about locker room talk. Like we've all been in a locker room for like it's can get a little wild and get a little gross sometimes. Like the way Skank talks here when he comes in the first time, you're like, that's not cool. She was like a hog or something. Right. Swarping on me. You're like, I've never been the hockey or the locker room talk guy. I've never been the locker room talk guy of just like, oh, yeah. Like in sex and you bitches. It's like, I don't I don't. And that come that came off like immediately. It came off like the wrong way to me in this movie. Not in a place. There's there was nothing endearing about this moment for me. There was for me. I mean, like hockey chirps are my favorite, like chirping on other players. I love so much the potatoes in the thing. Yeah, yeah. Flipping them with the stick. Yeah. Like that that locker room has to be like one of the most coveted places in the entire time is sacred and to be able to think that you get to go in. There's like, oh, I get to go in practice space. It's a band practice space. But it touches on like the idea of aging out of something like sports. Unfortunately, is one of the things that everybody wants to be good at. It wants to do. But at some point in your life, you've peaked and you're going to age out of this. And we see it through Johnny, like having to go in the locker room and like take his stuff down and go, I'm never coming in here again. Then the pride he has to muster up to go shake weeks his hand at the restaurant. That's the that's where I'm more touching on this movie. This time around is the life lessons of this movie are more important to me than like the hockey stuff of this, you know, I think if there is more weight to it, though, because it is a weekend scrimmage hockey game against other people, like the whole team. Yeah. It's like a practice that, you know, that people have. They split them up and like, you're on this team, you're on that team. Or like, you just have lines against lines. If they had like another team or something, I would I would believe this a lot more, I think I would believe I would like take to the being benched for the scrimmage hockey game, like you're being replaced by a younger person because this is way too important to us. I don't know. I would just believe it a little bit more. It makes me think about like, what if there was no hockey game? What if they like it's like, not to say it in like a negative light, but if if the hockey game is all this town has, but then like what would what would the town be without the hockey game? Yeah. You know what I mean? And that's where that's where I wonder that's where the weight could have been laid on a little bit thicker. It like in my brain of what you're talking about. Like, like this is all we got in around here. So like, make us believe that. That's why it is a big deal to him, but they're not showing you a big enough of a deal. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. I can't really even pin it down. It just, I wish I wish I got that feeling more with maybe it's a filmmaking. I don't know. I think you just get it from the characters of like, you know, you got to maybe I'm just not getting it at all. So you get a guy like Skank who, you know, is like, we learn later on, like at first I you hate this character and he really grows on you as the movie goes. But like the man, the man's just a school teacher. Like he's not going anywhere. He's going to be a drunk and probably do shitty things later on in life. But right now, like he's the king because he like is made his way into this hockey game that is such a big deal to the town, you know, there's only so many people you can fuck in this town. Sure is. And that's the other problem of this whole frigging thing is like, is like everybody it's like there's only so much to do in the cold, like they kind of say. And it's just like, how many people are there really around for you to bang? And you're just sitting here like, like Wooderson. Yeah. Like, like people it's like, oh, that's day the same age. They get older. I'd say the same age. It's just like, dude, what are you doing? He's also teaching them if that's no kidding. And that makes it even worse. It's even creepier. So it's a beautiful moment, like the way that that newspaper article gets first it's being read by the mayor. Yeah. Then it's being read by the guys in the locker room. And then it's being read by the kids in Skank's class. Yeah. I didn't pick up on this until this time around, but he makes the little girl reread like the line about Skank and says, Skank is a master of the stick and scores on demand. He's making like a 10 year old girl read this because she thinks it's hockey in his in his head. He's like, that's a sex. That's a sex reference. This Disney movie. Well, yeah, because dad's going to laugh at that. At first, at first she reads master of the sticky source. No, no, no, no. You need to reread that. Okay. We sound out your words, you know, it's like so it is like there is some funniness to it, but this is definitely still 90s Disney where they don't. They're just making movies. They're not. Maybe they aren't for like kids. This is not. This isn't PG. This isn't PG. This is our. Yeah. Yeah. Hard are. I was really surprised. I was really surprised by this because I like I said in my intro thing, I thought it was like a miracle Disney like there was pretty sanitized, you know, but no, not at all. That's that's where I was like, oh, no, I kind of took this movie a little bit more seriously, even though I kind of have some gripes about it. Yeah. Scene two player banks is arrested for shooting someone at Price World. Charlie returns to mystery and proposes and proposes an exhibition game between the town's team and the New York Rangers. The town debates whether accepting the challenge would bring pride or humiliation and eventually vote. Yes. Banks is found not guilty at the trial and Weeks doesn't perform very well at his first Saturday game. I have one thing here too. And maybe this is because not to say I'm like kind of stuck on it for you, Sean. Sure. But in the same vein, I think kind of thinking about this now, we spend a lot of time, we spend a lot of time on characters who are not actually in the hockey game or our players. Whereas I think it would have been a much more beneficial to like realize like it took me so long to realize that Connor was the guy who shot the superman guy. Yeah. Took me forever until you finally get that real as you put it together because he's like our best scorer and stuff. It's like, OK, so he is a player, but then I realized who he is. They don't put enough emphasis on this Connor Banks guy as how great of a player he really is when they're all wearing like really warm gear or how to like hockey helmets. You don't know who that person is very tough to distinguish. Like he's in the driveway ripping shots in the opening scene. Yeah. Who's this guy? And who's the guy skating the river? I don't know. Yeah. But we spend a lot of a decent amount of time with Colmini, with you know, with the mayor, with Pruitt. You get enough time with with John, with Russell Crowe. But Russell Crowe is one of the only guys with a distinguished look. It really is. You know what I mean? Maybe Ron Eldard, who is skanker. Yeah. Ron L. Hubbard. Yes. L. Ron Hubbard. And but you're right. Like I it's yeah, it's just it's really hard to distinguish these guys as best. I want to spend more time with the hockey players. We don't get to know their daily life. We don't know much about Tree really. Yeah. And he's like just a tough guy. Why? Why is it? Why is the game so important to these guys? Show us their everyday life and then show us why the game is so important to Inuit brothers as well. Yeah. Think about them. Yeah. Other than if a puck goes in the corner, they come out with it. Yeah. That's all we know. Yeah. I like I think it is honestly what I'm coming down to is maybe a direction kind of problem. OK. I mean, he's like the director of the spy of Shag Me and shit like that. Jay Rush kind of prolific in the comedy world. Yeah. And like even his more serious stuff that he's doing nowadays, like I've seen bombshell and it is kind of like this. I don't know this kind of seriousness that he tries to portray in his more recent movies, but like can't get across like the point that he needs to or like get us in the place that we're familiarized with these characters. Like bombshell does that. And that's my issue with that movie. It's just like I agree with the message of it, but like I just don't buy any of these characters. Right. At all. That's I think I think that is maybe the downfall. Well, I'm not saying that there is a downfall to this movie, but I do think that that's one of maybe the shortcomings of the movie is just not getting enough of the actual character development of the guys we want to hang out with. Yeah. Other than randomly in the locker room when they're just being being guys and being dudes. And I love that. We always say we love that aspect of the hangout aspects of movies, but we need some real life if you're going to show us and like really revel in this town. They're talking about like this price world subplot of like price. Yeah. Price world ain't no corporation showing up in this town. No, like this is not going to happen. This guy had to come here for work in like he's just as pissed as you are about him being here. Michael McKean. Michael McKean. What a great little. Have you ever heard him swear so much? Oh, I have. I have the entire thing here. The fucker shot me. What the fuck ass fuck of a bum fuck shit whole town is this? And the hick ass fucker shoots my foot off. Cock fucking shit. Cock fucking suck ass fucker. Have fun in jail asshole. It's like that's one of the greatest cameos ever. It's it's brilliant cameo, but like appearances. Yeah, it is. And like that's that's the stuff like but but to to rely on something of like price world moving in and then again, our our main goal scorer shoots this guy and he's the one and there are some there's some like. Oh, there's some tension because maybe he goes. I never felt the tension of him going to jail because he didn't go to jail. He never went to jail. But then still was like playing hockey. There's no tension. The motivation behind shooting him, too, was like like he got pissed off and was like fucking like saying shit about it. It was just a kind of scare him and it sounds like he just he just accidentally went off. But does he own the stores? He just an employee there. Yeah, I don't know. We don't even know he's a he's a younger guy. Yeah. So is he just hanging out? Yeah, it's like is he like who's the owner of this? Is it his store? And then and then from there, you're brandishing a gun. It goes off. He accidentally shoots him. It's like it's just it's just really convoluted. Like it's just really. And that story dies, too. Like price world's coming to town. And well, and then it's just done. And by the way, how how run of the mill is it to just be like price world? It's like you couldn't come up with something. Like, yeah, like Foster Super Super change is coming in. Like call it something other than price. Well, I don't know. I go to price world. It sounds pretty nice. I just sounds it's such a it's such a lackluster. Like just throw away kind of an I don't know. That's just me being a nitpicky bitch rather than like a local town like grocery like McGarves. Yeah, McGargle's. We got to go down to McGinley's to get ourselves. And yeah, like, yes, I agree. Like this is and I'll get off the kind of issue that I have with it. Because there are some good moments in this movie. There are there really are like Hank is like, er, you got Michael McKean coming in here is awesome to see. But then like Hank Azaria shows up and I like this. I think that this aspect was fleshed out really well. Yeah. That even him having history with John's wife. Yeah. I liked that aspect because they don't spoon feed you a lot of what you need to know about the sound. I appreciate that. But there was something missing like I've been saying this they took care of for some reason. And I did like this aspect about their their conversation is one of my favorites in the movie when they're both sitting there watching the Saturday game. Yeah. And it's the are you happy conversation? Like I we've all we've all either experienced that one way or another of like maybe you're him, maybe you're her in this situation. But you know, a young love that's maybe not fully resolved. And he he said or she says, I mean, what else do I have to do really besides slave over a hot stove, rub my fat husband's feet, dig splinters out of my ass that I get while sitting around pining for you. And then he line. Yeah. And then he even says, don't you ever wish you lived in a town that had a museum or somewhere where brothers and sisters were off limits to each other? Sexually. It's a really playful conversation that there there is something between them. And doesn't she say like, yeah, sometimes. Yeah. She just the truth. She's honest. Yeah. And later on, she has an even better conversation with with John. But like I stayed here for you. These are this is why I love this movie so much this time around. Is these human interactions, not so much the game and what it means, but like there's some real life flushing out of human emotions that goes on. I totally agree with you. Like I said, this is where this movie shines. I mean, the hockey shit will get to you. It's it's good to put. Yeah. That like the the characters, this is where they shine. It's kind of like Slap Shot. Slap Shot's a great hockey movie, but some of the more personal developments of that movie are what makes that so good. Yeah. Like like you say, I just I I kind of find myself still looking for, you know, development and it's just it's hard though, because, you know, what if you do give a little bit, but then it's just simply not enough. So it's either, you know, let you fill it in. Let you fill in the blanks a little bit on it. I get that. Well, here's what here's what pisses me off. They often they often do this with them like female castings, right? And like, you're going to tell me you're going to you're going to somehow get me to believe in this movie that Russell Crowe is fat. Fuck you. Well, we don't get to see his body at all. He's underneath all those layers. Yeah, exactly. It takes all those layers to make him look even slightly that the question. Are you happy? Uh, yeah. Have you seen that man sick flow? You see that flow? I'm very happy. I'm totally. There's a reason I was in town twice last night. OK, there's a reason I got three kids and I'm surprised I don't have more. They named they named condoms after this man. I maximum. I tell I literally tell him to leave the cable net sweater on. OK, and just go bottomless. We're happy. Leave the socks on. I want it all. Would I like to go to a museum with you? Maybe. Do I want to go to Poundtown with Maximus? You goddamn right. Look, I'm prehistoric about that. There is just in the moment. I get I get all the all the arts and well-being in the way that he just takes it to rail tail. OK, did you guys recognize the old lady at the meeting? Mirabella. Oh, yeah, the one that's like, hold on a second. Did you recognize her? I don't know what from, but yeah, I recognize her. Her name is Betty Linde. That's her real name. She was the my fingers. My fingers. We're back. It's going to hurt. You just pull. Let's get me duty. I the minute I saw her is like, yes. Thank you very much. It's really hard to like look at Hank's area and just like not like not. I'm not saying I fall in love with him, but just have such an appreciation just when whenever you see his face. Yeah. Hank is to know how talented he is. Oh, my gosh, dude. Like the and every now and again, it kind of it kind of shoots through like some of his like Simpson isms. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you know, that kind of stuff just doesn't need to like nine voices. He for a while there, he was one of the main guys. Yeah. And like watching him just do what he does. And I think I even think about his later roles in like heart is a heartbreak. No, along came Polly. He's oh, he's Ruben Ruben. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, that's right. One of the greatest roles of all time. Lubin. Yeah, dude, you have his Cuba. He's just jacked and walking around naked and just again, having to downplay Hank is area. Like the guy is just a presence on screen. It's so much fun to watch him. He does a comic book guy, Lou, Dr. Nick, Professor Frank, the C captain, Superintendent Chalmers, Cletus, Kirk Van Houten, and then the main ones he does is a Appu, Mo, Carl and Chief Wiggum. Like he does the majority of it's insane. Yeah. I mean, he's so talented, such a prolific talent. And like watching him just do what he does in a role like this, where he's fairly grounded. Yeah, he's the very good dramatic guy. He's kind of the bad guy. He is. He's a bit of an antagonist, if you will. Which is a good dynamic. I like this about him. Yeah. And later on, we get to see him him like when he's on the Zamboni drunken stuff. I love that scene. We'll get to it, but we'll talk about it. What's in this for you, Charlie? Sense of community, pride, money, money. Well, money. Yeah. He's honest. Like we can see it. You can you can look at him as a bad guy or you can look at him like, hey, man, he didn't get much respect back when he lived here. He wanted to get out and prove himself to his town that he could do good stuff. I get it. He's been dreaming about coming back to town to show himself off and to get his girl back. Yeah. Like that's those are real human emotions. Like that's not a bad guy. He is trying to do something good for the town before his own benefit. Exactly. And that's fine. Very complicated. And that's why it's a good kind of arc for that character. Yeah. Fofton identified with characters like that very much, even with like, you know, just just friends. Same idea of, you know, being able to come back and show that you've accomplished something. That's about pretend like you don't care. That's a really good comparison, actually. Yeah. It's I mean, it's about the same same character. Same thing. You know, so and I yeah. And I have a tough time not falling in love with those characters. So I think it's a great dynamic to make that an antagonist. What have been a better movie, maybe, if it was from his perspective? Maybe. Oh, yeah. Maybe it would make so much more sense because we don't we only get the perspective of the hockey players from like his his his article. Yeah, yeah. You know, and so you could you could call this just as much his movie as much as anyone else's if they would have given him a little bit more at the end or something. True. Yeah. That's a good point. A great story like Monsters Inc. stays with you forever. And Disney Class is where you'll find your next great story from the return of the award winning hit series, Rivals. Welcome to the naughtiest show on television to the unmissable crime drama, High Potential. Got a dead body. Gotta go. A lifetime of great stories awaits this spring on Disney Plus, 18 plus subscription required. Teas and seas apply. When life gets hectic, energy ups and downs are all you need. 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He came in. Are still rated are. He came as she was playing the condom on from Perky Tits, which is a good girl, by the way. Yeah. Yeah. Put it on for you. Absolutely. You know, say say what you want. There. Sorry. It's good. Looks like it's a say what you want. OK, but I will say we've been talking a lot a lot about each character kind of comes up about how they're they're all borderline, brutally honest at points about things and just very honest. You know, this is pretty wholesome community overall, even to the point of their kids, even though they're trying to get it done, still being responsible. So that is that. Yeah. All right. And and yeah, it's like. And they can't say the words like Dick or Johnson. They have to say serpent. You know, they're they're keeping it keeping it really, you know, P.G. here, you know, even your mom, even her character is kind of nice. You're like this, like, kind of young love ish, like it's both our first times. Let's just I planned on doing it. Now I want to do it and he can't do it because pre. Yeah. So we're done. Because pre. So we're done. Right. So we're done. And she's got disappointed. Yeah. Like, yeah. Yeah. But that's what I like. I like about this movie again, is these real, these real situations of life and like these people are all growing as the movies going on and people are at different stages of this, the youngest kid here. Girlfriend scared that Weeks is not going to be want to be with her anymore. By the way, Weeks is never coming back. No, it weeks in her never getting together. Going to New York. He's going to be an inch. Sheller where she ain't he ain't come back. So yeah, yeah. But you got a better chance of going there to him. Yes. Sining, Bimmington, Binghamton, Binghamton, Binghamton. Yeah. But I like that moment to the mom of of her, the way for the judge is so great when judge walks in, I deserve to know what's going on in this house. Walter, if you don't leave, I swear, I'll tell you. OK, like I put myself in his shoes. I was like, yep, you're right. I'm out of here. Actually, now that you're threatening to tell me, I don't want to know. And it's a good conversation between them, too. Like this seems really real. Oh, yeah. So you've had relations before. Well, you're being you protecting yourself. That's good. Like, yeah, I mean, yeah, whatever. It could could have been it could have been really, really yucked up, you know, in the idea of like, well, you just what are you doing? You could be responsible and just to have two of those characters in the same family would be exhausting. Yeah, correct. For the audience. Even it mean the mom, even when they first kiss on the bench and stuff, the mom is kind of like, look, look, that's really sweet to see. And he's just like, boom, fuck off. What do we think? We talked a little bit about it, but Reynolds here, like kind of hating his son for some reason, for being for doing the town thing, like the best thing this town has going for it. And then eventually coming around and coaching, like, what was his problem? And the first place, there's some weird, there's some weird underlying tones there, I think of like, you know, Judge, Judge has an issue, I think with the fact that he didn't ever make the game. I think they keep bringing that up. Yeah, he went away and play college hockey. But I think there's some unresolved hatred for him for never being able to play in the game. And then I think the only person he's sort of allowed to take that out on is his son. OK, I get it. You know, so like, I don't like it. I think makes Judge the more one of the more hateable characters of this movie. Yeah. In fact, they gave a dude, they do weird shit here. Man, there's a what are they? The Stinker Awards. Oh, the Razzies and the Razzies and the Stinker. Reynolds was nominated for worst onscreen hairstyle. I was like, what does that have to do with anything? And they get it so wrong so often. We should just start our own. We should call it the Stinker Awards and like actually and actually make it. Be like, no, this is the worst haircut I've ever seen. Punchable faces, all that. Because they don't do it right. Like, I like Bert Reynolds. It's really hard not to like him in most roles that he's going to do, obviously, because he's going to get it done, right? And at no point does he feel phoned into me. Like, I will say that. OK. I do think that it's maybe just the way it's written for him. You know, he's just supposed to be kind of the stuck up guy. And like, for me, Bert Reynolds should always be coming around to have the smile about very much like Boogie Nights. He's got the it's like they're still like the best intentions behind what he's doing. That's what I feel about Bert Reynolds. Him as a bad guy ish doesn't doesn't play well for me. Apparently, he had a freak out on set when they were filming in the locker room, I guess, quote unquote. Like, he kind of had one of his kind of blow ups is like because he did a bunch of crash outs with Paul Thomas Anderson and Boogie Nights and stuff and had one of those moments. And then he like the J Roach was like he was really a professional. And besides that moment, like he even came up to me and like apologize. And he like sat everyone on the crew down and apologized to him and said, I'm really sorry about the way I acted. So he was like a really stand up guy, even when he did have these moments. Yeah. So it sucks to hear like actors have to have the moment, have a reputation like that. But yeah, at least you reconcile that kind of stuff. Are you guys Mary McCormick fans? I am because of this movie now. Oh, really? OK. So like I've always loved her. Like she was Howard Stern's wife in Private Parts, which we will be doing someday. OK. One of my favorite movies ever. And she's always been like the way Howard has talked about her, how she worked on that movie and the way she just acts in movies. Like I think she's so underappreciated. The way she delivers some of the lines of the time about the Zamboni. Zamboni Zamboni. Just getting wet thinking about it. And he goes, Jesus, like she I feel like this is what Mary McCormick is like in real life for some reason. I feel like she's just playing herself. She's bringing a lot of herself through the character. And she's just so delightful. Like I love her in this role. I don't know if anybody else could have played that wife the way she did. She's a very grounded presence again, like in a very it's very realistic. It's very, very she's she has her own struggles in the movie, obviously. But then at the same time, seems like very genuine. It's very, very rare. It doesn't seem like a character to her, you know, like you're saying. How I feel about her is how I feel about Joe Beth Williams, who is in the big chill. OK. And also the mom and poltergeist. OK. Like something about him is like very motherly almost, but also there's something very attractive about them and very funny. Yeah, I like I like I like her in this a lot. Yeah. And at this point, we find out that the ranger, the Rangers aren't coming. And it's like no fucking shit. Like, in fact, in real life, they wanted the actual Rangers to come be in the movie and they were like, no, we're not going to do it. And this is a no win. This is the definition of a no win situation for an NHL team. Yeah. Is you either go, which, by the way, is a 4,000 mile flight to the middle of Alaska from New York, seven and a half hours, roughly, then you're landing, getting on a helicopter ride over mountains and glaciers to get to a small town that probably doesn't have accommodations for you to play. Yeah. To then play a game where you're you should win. Yeah. Which means everybody will go, oh, wow, they won. Like we knew they would win. Yeah. And there's what's the entertainment factor in that? Yes. Or you lose because this other team is so good and motivated. And now you look like complete horses. You're like a laughing stock of the NHL for at least a couple of months. No fucking wonder. Yeah. Like, of course, they weren't coming. Yeah. This is insane. Did they say in the movie they're like, no, the players don't want to come. They did. They were like the players union. The NHL PA was like not the union. Yeah. Which means the players said we don't want to go. OK. Yeah. Because the guy it's one of the commentators that you can tell is like definitely a player and then he becomes like an on air commentator. But he's like he's like this is a very busy schedule. You only have so many days off and throughout this. You know, that's how that is. Is that it? Esposito. Sorry. And and he says this, he's like he's like so now instead of being able to go home and like spend this time with their families, they have to go to Alaska. No way. Yeah. No shot. Like it doesn't. You're right. It doesn't make any sense to make this. Bring mystery to New York. Correct. Where's the nearest like it probably in Canada somewhere. Like where's the nearest Vancouver is probably nearest to the. Depending. Yeah. Well, no, I don't even know. Probably something in Canada because Alaska is way the fuck up there. Dude, to make that work in a thousand miles from New York straight to Fairbanks. No, no. Like no, no. But I'm saying like if they played of Vancouver and had an off day the next day, come on down. Even then, that's risky. Yeah. You you actually just pretty much nailed it, though, Mike. Logistically, it makes way more sense if there's this like a thing and like, oh, wow, these like guys, it's like, I mean, it's like these these guys might as well be like warriors, this warrior culture of hockey, essentially, and just raw talent and like, yeah, you know what? What we should do. Big Apple. No, we're not going to do that. However, we are going to have mystery Alaska to lost in New York. We're going to fly them. We're going to fly them to New York to play at frigging Madison Square Garden. And we will even pay the town a stipend or whatever it is for like supporting this. And like, you know, out of water story. I mean, like it's crocodile Dundee. It's crocodile Dundee with hockey. Baby, every sequel happens in New York. Every. We all know this. Yes. Just please. Well, the Rangers that would have gone. Do you know who was on that team? If they actually brought the Rangers like Messier on that, he's got to be on there. Brother. No, this is 1999. Even earlier. Gretzky was on the team. That was Gretzky's final year in the NHL. 99. Brian Leach, Adam Graves, Peter Nedved and Mark Richter. They were not very good. They did not make the playoffs that year. Again, being Gretzky's final year. But yeah, that's that's who we could have maybe seen in this movie. Kind of crazy. It would have been dope. But in still that instead, they were they like A.H.L. players? I think so. Yeah. Yeah. And they all pass. I mean, it all it all passes. It's all fun. I mean, all you got to do is. OK, well, I'll talk. I got some thoughts about that. You talk. Can I get a prop then? No. Oh, here's a prop. The Scream 2 poster in that girl's room. I knew you wanted that one. I want one of their Game Day jerseys. Nice. I want probably probably good call. I want banks. Yeah, like, because there's just something about that, because then I can also wear it as a mighty Ducks jersey, too. But like, there's just something about those jerseys and they've got like the brass eyelets and stuff on the. I don't know. They're fucking cool, man. I think I could wear Johnny's hat, his like Alaskan Russian hat. I think I look. Oh, yeah, there you go. OK, yeah. Angers, a lot of people. Dylan Mick wanted Bert Reynolds hat and coat. What an iconic coaching look. In fact, definitely when the Blues were in the winter classic, when Hitchcock was still on the team, he wore like a top hat like that and like a trench coat. I don't know if it had anything to do with this, but he looked cool. So he's like plaid and like pleated pants. And I think I think when we went to we actually went and saw the winter classic when it was at Soldier Field in Chicago, and it was the Blackhawks versus the Penguins, I think. And one of the coaches was wearing like one of the plaid hats. And I mean, just kind of everything about that day was fucking so electric. I'll talk about that on a Patreon. Let's do that. Yeah. If we were on a train to go punch a face, I'm on board. That's what I'm talking about. I couldn't help but just feel so punchable towards one of the town elders, the wish dot com Walter White guy with the with the like shaved head and the goatee in the glasses. Like he just he was one of the three guys. It was Bailey, the mayor and this guy who we still don't even know his name. But he totally looked like he auditioned for Breaking Bad and didn't get the role. Totally. I like to think that he is the guy who owns the store. OK, that banks works at. There you go. I like that. Never there. And that's why banks had to like run the place. Yeah, I like Tommy Boy, the guy we're talking about. I don't think so, but I can look it up for you. Like, is he like on the board or something? Oh, are you thinking about he's not the guy who buys breakpads from him? Yeah, that's correct. He's not that guy. OK, OK. So. Punchable face. Yeah, man. Nick Mads also said the ref. He said, and that isn't just because I coached two sports and are you with refs? That dude looks unpleasant every time he's on screen. Blow it out your ass. But 100 percent. Yeah, I think that sucks. I mean, I've got one. What do you got? You know, no, I'm with Nick Mad. Oh, OK. Well, my my punchable face. Lo and behold, was going to be Mike Myers. Wow, dude. That's not bad. And I love I think he's amazing in this role. But that's why. OK. His character, because he's he just jumps back and forth and then has the audacity to be like, hey, where could you get a rub and a tug around? Rub and a tug around. It wasn't he mimicking like Don Cherry basically. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right. He does a very good job of being that guy. Oh, 100 percent. He's the personality, but also like, hey, fuck you, kid. It's also an issue I have with it. If you're going to come out here and you're going to be playing with these guys, you better have some salt on your old now. OK, it's like, what the fuck are you talking about? I'm doing Don Cherry. Don Cherry. Well, scene four Bailey dies in New York while arguing in court about the game with the game back on. Judge assumes the role of coach and the team continues to train on the day of the game. The town tries to gain every possible advantage, including delaying the start. So the Rangers must endure the extreme cold. So, yeah, they get to this courtroom here. I'd like you kind of initially hate Bailey a little bit because he's kind of like it seems kind of weasley. And it's the remnants of my cousin Vinnie for sure. Yeah, that's that's the only reason I dislike him. The whole time I feel like he's he's the odd man out of these three saying like that are trying to take BB out of the game. OK, and put weeks. You're right. He he's like, hey, have a good game today, please. Because, yeah, and he's and then he and then he looks at him like when he's in that meeting with John, he's and he's like, OK, that's pretty good. You know, he just doesn't feel right about this. You can tell he is so passionate about this game like and and like the things that go into it. And especially, obviously, the players themselves and the courtroom thing is his speech is incredible here. Yeah. And he brings a tree with him. Yeah, trees so genuinely cool, like when Bailey. He's the gentle giant. Yes, he really is. And he's like the sweetest, as hard as big as he is. That's the definition, right? His head was down. So he's right. Like, yeah, he didn't want to take weeks out. He was trying to watch out. Yeah, exactly. He's literally a tree. OK, you're running into a tree earlier in the courtroom. I think the the price world thing when Bailey was talking about the game. Yeah. And he's like, forgive me, I'm fat. Yeah, he's like, I don't want to hear anything. I already told you I don't want to hear anything about price world. I don't want to hear anything about a hockey game. We already discussed this. Apologize, your honor. I'm fat. It's like what? At the funeral, too, like the song, like the sad song ends and Russell Crowe's character gets up to tell like the eulogy or whatever. He's like, look, the guy was fat. It's just an ongoing joke. And but like, it's his joke ties it in. He's like, no, no, the story he told his kid, Mike, about how every person he met, every person that he liked, he would grow a little bigger. His heart grew too big. Yeah. Oh, geez. And he is sort of the emotional anchor in like the heart sort of of the story ish. He's like the character that the the the whole vibe of the town is encapsulated in. But that even that, it's so weird because there's there's a there's so many misses of like this movie probably should have been like to me anyway, should have been obviously it should have been sort of like a days confused, but for hockey in a small town. That would have been pretty because there's so many different players. Yeah, there's so many different like sex of characters having their own like sex sex and things going on. Like we should have there's certain characters and certain arcs that didn't get enough attention. And this is kind of a little bit one of them, but it does get the vibe across. This would be a better like TV series. Yeah. Oh, yeah. That's where we could dedicate one episode to like each player. Yeah. A bit of a flashback. What why does Bailey suck so much at hockey? Like, but why is he so passionate about this game? Like, yeah. Whereas his does he have a wife? What I don't I don't normally say that around. I don't normally agree with it should be a TV series. But yeah, this could have been. I think it's got serious legs to have a TV spin off to like a Friday night lights kind of a thing. You know what I mean? I think that was the big one, right? That and it just seems that's really what I want more of is if you're going to make this hockey movie as much about the people as you did, then I need more of the people because I want I want to care more about I need somehow I need to be able to care more about this Saturday game like we've been kind of, you know, drilling down on. And to do that, you need to show me why they look forward to the game so much. You guys are focusing more on the hockey. Like you're like, we don't know enough about the hockey players. When I think what I'm saying is that like the hockey players aren't the story. No, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, I'm saying I didn't get enough of those answers. OK, yeah. Yeah. Well, I'm saying a similar thing is I want to see their lives, not not just the hockey. No, that's what I mean. You're not getting enough of the hockey players like me. No, you're not. You don't know anything about these Inuit players. And I think what I'm saying is that the real story is the townspeople. That's what it is what I'm saying. Yes. And it being fleshed. And that's I kind of maybe like a testament to the stories that I want to know more. But also it's like just the execution maybe just didn't work. Right. Yeah. For me. Going back to just kind of going back to Bailey and like, you know, him him him dying. It just seems like kind of like what you mentioned, Sean, like he's kind of the emotional like the heart of this. It's like some of that heart from the movie seems like it kind of went with him after this. And like that's just the way like after this, I'm just like, who the hell am I rooting for? You're almost rooting for the mayor now. The mayor almost has his arc at this point. Totally. He's gone through the embarrassment of the wife thing. But like maybe that's where maybe that's where I like this movie so much is you're getting you're getting real people like you've got Skank. Skank is kind of a piece of shit. But as the movie goes on, we understand that he knows what he is. He he knows he's going to end up like his father and probably a huge drunken piece of shit. But he's like he still wants to atone for that, like by making up for the fornication and the affair. You know, you've got Charlie who like so badly wanted to bring the Rangers to town for notoriety, but then he he doesn't realize what kind of harm this is going to do. This is a bony scene where John talks to me. He's like, yeah, but what if we lose? And you can tell he does care because he's like, shit, I didn't think about that. You've got a son, Birdie, desperately seeking approval from his father, who's a judge who is incapable of giving like approval to his son. The wife of the mayor has an affair because she doesn't get the love back from her husband. Donna is trying to hang on to her life and like identify in a tough place to live, choosing love of her family and her husband over like a life she could have lived. It's like these little stories you can kind of like weave in and out and be like, OK, this is a cool, this is like real life just in a small town in Alaska. Right. It is. So yeah. And like I said, some of it is done really well. And I do think that the coal meany stuff is done well, even though like I would handle it differently. Yeah, probably. The way he handles it and way coal meany performs it is very good. And he comes around and he's like, OK, now I'm leading this and I've got these ideas and I'm passionate about it. Let's do it. Handing out the newspapers to everybody when the Rangers come out. The taught his scene with Little Richard. I'm like, yeah, well, that's what's going to make this a harder ask for me. I'm cold. Even harder to ask. He's all bundled up. Little Richard is so awesome. What a cameo, man. What a cameo. And then he will see you now. Yeah. And then realizing I'm cold. Realizing during the thing, like what he ended up asking was just to prolong this as long as he can. Sing for as long as you can. And you're just watching these Rangers squirm. I love how they don't tell you that that's what he's going to ask. No, it's a nice move. See, that's that's the brilliance of that of that style, not telling you everything, but you get it. The payoff is there. And that's what I want more of. That's what I wanted more of, I think, throughout the movie. You know, but I wanted to I did want to talk about the. The John and Charlie scene. Yeah, the Zamboni, the Zamboni scene of him. I'd like to picture that like every Zamboni just only has that song playing on repeat, like it's like built in. I want to drive a Zamboni because he didn't have a speaker or anything with him. So I think it's just built into the scene. Yeah, I think so. I think it's I think it's just how the motors are. And they they're like a player piano. It just that that or every Zamboni just tuned to some some like like phantom radio signal that just has that playing over and over and over. Every 300 miles in any direction is just one little antenna that just shoots out. I want to drive Zamboni. I see that this is what I mean is like he's got that bottle of booze. He's just like so long. Suck down. It's exactly what it is. And you just it's it's 100 percent. They have such a they have such a good conversation here, though. And like and you feel for kind of you really feel for for Charlie. Yeah, in this moment, because he's like he's like, I didn't I couldn't do what everybody wanted to do in this town. But I I was going to come back and like with my Pulitzer Prize under my arm, basically, and just throw it in people's face. He's like and I everything is about hockey here. And I bring the New York Rangers and this is what I get. And where's my parade? I'm so on his side until John says what he says. He's like, but what if we lose? This is what the town has. You're right. This is everything. If the Rangers lose this game, whatever. Right. It's not that big of a deal. Yeah, like they're going to get joked at like a week for like, yeah, a little bit of time until they win their next game. Correct. Again, as professionals. Correct. Yes. And so and so he does. It just makes you feel for like both sides of this. And it really I think this was this conversation was the culmination for me of a lot of things in this movie. It was the climax for me for a lot of this movie. As much as I think we already had the scene of their argument, John and is it Donna? Is it Donna? Yes. We heard it. It kind of happened here. OK. But then they have their like kind of come together. Yeah, the dear Abby thing. Yeah. That didn't make sense to me. That always felt really strange to me. Yeah. Felt very out of place, very forced, like we should have had a reference to this beforehand and it like it got cut out or something. Something like that. That's what it feels to me. And she just was like, oh, John, you know, it's like, well, if I did that to my wife, she'd be like, what the what is this? I almost I wanted to blame it on her performance. But I think it's just like I don't know what I think it's just bad. Right. Yeah. It's it's maybe it's something that he's always done for her. Maybe you know, I'm not good with words, baby. Yeah. That's what I mean. But I'm also going to go out to the yard and start ripping some pucks while you read this. Step by step. You know how long it takes to put on all those winter clothes? No shit. So long. Taking him so long by the time she's done, she's like, what are you doing? He's like, oh, I haven't even put my one shoe on. That's that's literally why, like, I stopped going outside for almost anything. This this winter was like, I don't want to put more clothes on. No, it takes too long to get ready, bro. Saving seekers, we hear you. At your next, we know energy savings isn't one size fits all. So if you're looking for a tariff below the cap or even charging up of big rates. Our tailored energy solutions could help you satisfy those savings cravings. Find out more at eonnext.com forward slash save. Eonnext, we make energy savings work. Next pledge, lower versus our standard variable tariff. Energy solutions include EV charges combined with an extra to achieve off peak savings. Eligibility, postcode restrictions, teams, he's apply. Visit eonnext.com slash save. Well, final scene, despite an early two to one lead, the mystery team is down five to two heading into the third period. They fight back, but end up losing five to four. Despite the defeat, the crowd and the Rangers applaud the team's performance. After the game, the Rangers signed weeks in banks to minor league contracts. Donnie Schultz over, right? Schultz Schultz over is Mike Myers character. OK, that's his name. It's just like the most like hockey commentator name. How many syllables can we pack onto a jersey kind of a thing? Yes, you can tell it's all a creation of Mike Myers. Of course, like J. Roach, like directing him in the awesome powers movies. He's just like, yeah, come on and do just do some sort of weird character. And Mike's Canadian, so he loves hockey. So he's like, done. I've heard all these isms. I'll take care of it. Yeah, I got to. I got your speech. Ready to go. Yeah. Like I say, there's a reason I want to punch him in the face. And it's because he does this so goddamn well. And then and it's it's extremely funny. It's so on the nose. And then it's his back and forth of like, they don't have a shot in hell. But then he comes back, he's like, these boys, they really got it going for him. And they're just like, oh, man, like it isn't exactly rocket searcher. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Rocket searcher. You ain't got dinky do. Yeah. You don't come out. You don't got dinky do. What do you think about the hockey filmography here in the playing? Like I personally think this is some of the best like movie hockey that's ever been filmed. Yeah, I agree. I was thinking this time around. I'm like, I think the movies that we've covered, the photography of the hockey has been has always been good, maybe except for Mighty Ducks, too. I guess I don't know. But in that just made me think like maybe just hockey is like extremely cinematic in a way that we don't think about. It's true. Because like football, yes, is very cinematic with there's so many football movies, basketball, maybe. But I never thought of like hockey being like it would just be hard to do. Yeah. So I assume it would not look great all the time. And I got behind the scenes, some of what I saw that I could fucking research for this movie is that they just had like people on a sled, like going around on a right, right on a with with a camera. And I'm like, yeah, that makes a lot of sense. But I agree with you. It does look really good, especially for just being outside as well. Yeah. Not being able to control any of the light. It's it's very good. This first goal is absolutely beautiful. The Tic Tac toe passing. Then immediately after they win the next face off, the second try that ends up getting saved, I think with the Inuit brothers. But man, like this overall hockey is some of the most beautiful shit I've seen. It was definitely I think I think what what I agree with the most is that it like feels like an actual game like the real players. It might be because this is the first time I watch it. I didn't know how this is going to pan out. But it really felt like it felt like I was watching the Olympics. Yeah. Like legitimately. I think it being outdoors helps that cinematic aspect too. Because you don't really a bigger rank too. They made the ring bigger. Yeah. There's just it seems like. Because because hockey arenas, they can seem just so sterile. You know what I mean? Yeah. Just a lot of stark white. You need to have bright lights and all that stuff. But this is like it's an outdoor showing that has more natural light. It's it is the black ice. Yeah. That they're talking about. The contrast is just really nice. And it just makes it seem like there's so much more depth than having to rely on a crowd constantly in the back to make it interesting. The the the setting is interesting as it is. And like and then you get some of the crowd shots involved too. It kind of adds to it. But they're not they're not relying on it. Not they don't they don't need to rely on cardboard cutouts to make this interesting. No, they're good. Yeah. They think it goes from daytime to nighttime by the time they got the games over. So that adds some dynamic to it. It's it's pretty pretty beautiful. Speaking of the Rangers aspect of this, like I know we said they don't get anything out of this no matter what in either way, really. But getting scored on the first shot of the game from a mystery Alaska player. I don't care if you win this game, you lost. That's some fucking bearish. I think it shows where their headset was like their mental capacity for this was like and they've just been there a bit freezing their ass off during the national anthem. They're like, what are we doing? Take take it back to Rocky. Like I say, you know, if we if we think about it this way, it is true. You know, first coming out of the gate, Apollo's head isn't in it. It's an exhibition. It's fun. This is going to be a no. This is there's there's nothing to this. The guy's a ham and agar. And that's what these guys think. And he comes out, swings on Apollo big and knocks him down the first time. He just doesn't get back to his corner fast enough pretty much to get a full count. You know, it is. It's like we got to step it up and like make them realize that this is not. This is all this is everything to them. They're down to nothing after the first intermission. They're like, OK, and boom, just like that. Like so quickly in this movie, it's like they're back in the locker room. Five to five to five on answer goals. Like, yep, look to die. Oh, that's right. NHL got it. The best of the best of the best. Pretty good. Turns out they're pretty good. They've never played on a pond before. Well, they actually they all grew up in Canada. So yeah, they've played on Ponds. You think they haven't played on Ponds? Where do you think these guys come from? Also, these guys are like, man, why is it so familiar to me that banks? Number nine, what is that? Oh, mighty dogs. Number nine banks. That's right. Always the best player on the team. Number nine banks. Yep. You can bank on banks. Huh? All right. Bucking sick. Yeah, dude. Yeah, the coach is like, you don't pass. You sit like those some of these moments where he is the coach on the bench. But Reynolds here, some of that's really good. And then but some of the hockey, you can see like one player was like hooked right in front of the net, like a no call. And on this final play of the game, when there's 40 seconds left, Rangers win the face off and ice it. Yeah, yeah. Clearly in icing. No call. No icing. OK, OK. The rest really letting them go on. Letting them play. They don't wear helmets. It's an old time hockey. That's the same type of icing rule, though, for 99 though. Always same. I mean, well, isn't it hybrid icing now? Well, no. Oh, I see what you're saying. You know, well, no, that means a Rangers player would have had to have gotten and they had to go get it. OK. All right. Yeah, see. Well, I'll admit it if I was wrong. And we'll go back and look at it, but I'm pretty sure I'm right. All right. OK. We'll go look at it. We'll get that on record. How about Bert Reynolds? Third period speech, though, like where he's got that ploy to be like, you know, I think we should just dump a chase and, you know, if we five to twos a respectable score to he just implants that doubt into Johnny. And then Johnny's like, no, fuck that. Because it's nice, is this you tired? Is he does that little smile? He goes, you got it. It makes you wonder if he's been doing this the whole time. Maybe that's my thing is like with his son, with the whole town, I think, just in general, being a curmungin about the game. Like I think that I think the thing with his son is somewhat genuine. But also you're right. I mean, like. I well, I don't know about a son, actually. I would just I would just say with the town and the game itself. Like I feel like he gives the smirk right in the town meeting about having the game does two things. We have we have our illusions and we have hockey and we have our illusions or whatever. And it's like we should cling to both. And it kind of spurs like his son to step up and be like, no, I want to play and I will win. Mm hmm. I don't want to be the one to say that we're going to do this. Right. Like it's like they need some resistance. Yeah. You know, to really fuel that fire. And it's like he's willing to do that and be that guy. It's very true. Seems like he's been doing it the whole movie now. I can see that. The like I said, I did one thing I did notice. There's a sign in the crowd that says, hey, Skank, I'm pregnant. Never noticed that. That's really great. That's amazing. But yeah, like I first time watching this, I thought like, oh, totally Disney, like they're going to win. They're going to tie it up and it's going to be all good. But I was like, oh, fuck. Yeah. And then when they don't or it goes off the post, right? The crossbar. Yeah. The goalie's diving like the goalie was not in position. He's flying through the air. Very mighty Duxish of that. But yeah. And then he drops the puck afterwards. Like he drops it out of his glove. You know, you're like, OK. But yeah, I kind of forgot if they won or not when this came around. I was like, I do enjoy when the team doesn't win. Yeah. That's like, let's make it a little more real life here. The fact that the two players got drafted is kind of weird to me a little bit. Like, are you allowed to just like take these guys with you right away? Like you just got to take them now. Immediately. Yeah. And the both players are carrying their sticks with them. It's like, hey, you don't have. We're good. We got sticks. You don't have to bring your sticks. These are small town folk. All right. I'm going to hold it. I only got one. He brings his stick to the town meeting. Yes, he does. He plays hockey. OK. Yeah. He carries it through the airport. You know, he wants people to know like, hey, this is what I do. So just saying, I do have a genuine question for both of you, though. Have you ever seen a child look like they're 30 years old before? Oh, yeah. At the very end of this one, and it's like John Sun or something. John Sun, he does that. He says that I have a toy pony. He takes big shits. That kid looks like he's 30 years old. Yes. I can't get over. Like a Hezbollah kind of sort of. Yeah. He's got that vibe for sure. I just, yeah, I was very stuck on that for like once they put that hat on him. I was like, I can't look at you and I don't want to. It's right. Like that kind of shit scares me. Like Haley Jules-Ausman nowadays scares me. Yeah. Yeah. He looks like a, you know, like a 45 year old dude. Yeah. But with like a nine year old's head on his body. Yeah. Don't like that. Yeah. I know. But that kid's kind of funny. I like when he's like, no more locker rooms for you and he bangs his head. Yeah. Damn it. I love the locker room. I did before we get off of it and everything, I did want to say, like, I tried to find to see if there's like an alternate ending to this. And there's nothing that I saw that was there supposed to be. I don't know. I have no idea. I just it seemed like from a world age, a where whatever the movie is, is what the movie is not like the well, we release seven different cuts. And I believe it should look like this. And this guy thought it should look like this. And then we did alternate ending. I wanted to see the Ulysses cut. OK. Did you read the book or not before you went to the movie? OK. Well, then you are not qualified to speak on this. Yeah, you're right. You're right. I'm just saying. OK. But it just it just seemed like it seemed like they should they should have won. And how do you guys think it's better with them losing? I mean, I do. I felt it. Like, I do think this is done really well, at least. Like, like, yeah, like all these Disney movies like Miracle, like that was actually, you know, a real true thing. And we know how that panned out. But with these movies, you think like it's going to work out like this, like even Mighty Ducks for Christ's sake, you know. But I like how it doesn't work out. I think like it sets in as we as it sets in for them, too. Like there's the slow clap and everything. And then like the Rangers players are tapping their sticks and everything. It's shaking hands. That's a big deal. It really sets. It makes it. I felt like I was a part of the team finally. Yeah. Honestly. Like, I was just like, oh, we did it. You felt it with the team. I did. And then the sense of pride is like, no, we took it. We took them to the end. The town did win. They get they got a boost to their economy. They made some money. A lot of people learned valuable lessons over this. Couple players are going to change their lives forever by playing NHL Hockey, where they should be. John and Donna's relationship is probably stronger than it's ever been. My man has learned a lot. Hank is area. Now he's going to go on to do even bigger things, probably now that he's learned some lessons. Like it just seems like maybe the judge and son repaired their relationship. A lot of a lot of good things happened here for the town. The Rocky ending would have been they tied it up and lost it in a shootout or over time or just tied or just or just left it at a tie. It's an exhibition. We tie. Correct. Because at that point you get like one over time and then and that's about it. I think an exhibition would just end right there. OK. Well, so a tie could have done it. You might not have gotten those like the the stick taps from New York was the big. Yeah, because they still needed to win. If you had beat them, they're not stick tapping. Yeah, exactly. No, no, no, no, they're going to leave right away. But if you tie them and then they lose it in like in the overtime thing, I think that's where you get like the real Rocky finish. Rocky won. He does not win. They they go to a split decision and Apollo wins the split wins the decision. Christ, dude, spoilers. What the fuck? Oh, sorry. Problem, dude. They're. They're. They're. Yeah, I didn't listen to it. I didn't listen. You didn't listen to yourself talking. Could you? No, I kind of disagree. I do think this is a little bit more impactful because like like, man, they're really putting a lot of pressure on like that last shot like could have gone in. Yeah, it just didn't quarter of an inch. Charlie. Yeah. Yeah. But quarter of the other way you would miss completely. You know, I never thought about it like that. She's like, really? You never fucking thought of it. There you go. Well, anything else you guys want to say about mystery Alaska? Yeah, I should have ended in a tie. That's fine. That's my final thought. And that's the only thought that's going to end this. Well, then give it a stop talking. Oh, no, Sean. Sean, what do you got? First time watching this, like I said, my I have kind of a quite a few issues with it, but I think it honestly is going to be up to me to kind of rewatch this a couple more times and let it sink in a little bit. Maybe like maybe I'll I'll like kind of access that nostalgia that people have for it sooner sooner than later as I watch it more. But as of right now, I think it's a very, very fun movie. And like you said, it where it works with the characters, it really works for me. And where it doesn't, it just really does not work for me. The castings great. I really love like Cole Meany in this is fantastic. Colm Colm Meany and Bert Reynolds could have been anybody else. But to see him in a movie, obviously, is just the best in Russell Crowe early on. Like this is this is he's he looks like McCready in the thing. Like kind of does. It's fucking perfect. Yeah, I think I'm going to have to wash this couple of couple more times. But as of right now, I think I'm going to give this I'm going to give this a five point eight five point eight for Sean. AJ, what about you? There's something very much about this movie. I wish I could think of some other examples right off the top of my head. But it's not I'm not saying like it's a comfort movie, but it is a movie that I totally get from this era and this vibe. But it seems it just seems like it's a it's it's good to throw on. There's some there is some confrontation, but you never feel enough confrontation. And you're right. I think that the end it does resolve and it's very impactful the way that it is done to make you finally feel like you are a part of the town and a part of the the hockey game, like culture when they when they do end up losing. If I think of those examples, it just it fits into this pocket of movies that is from this era that I just feel in my bones. Like I have watched this movie a hundred times before. And so but I've only seen it now a few times. I totally understand why somebody would be very nostalgic about it. But I don't I don't have quite that feeling about about this movie. I get a really good sense, though, that it's something that I would have enjoyed or would have would have like stood some ground on. Like it's a hill that I would have stood on for a while of like, you got to see this movie, you got to see this movie. Because I know I have a friend who told me the same thing. So that being said, I think I like it a little bit more. But in the same vein, this this movie is going to sit right at a a six point two for me. Six point two. I don't really have nostalgia for this movie because I haven't seen it that many times. But this time around, it it hit a little bit better. I like the hockey. So I'm so impressed by the hockey filmography. But the overall story was great because I just like if you look at all the sports movies on our list that I've ranked so high. They're generally movies that are more they're about the sport, but they're more about the life and the people in the story like field of dreams, sandlot, stuff like that. Like those movies are not really sports movies. And I don't really think this is necessarily sports movie either. I love the human aspect of this movie. So I'm yeah, I'm going to give it a seven point three on this one. Dylan Mick says this feels like the kind of sports movie they don't really make much anymore. Scruffy, sincere, a little uneven and full of heart watching it now that actually ends up ends up being part of its charm. It's not polished within an inch of its life and it's not trying to turn every emotional beat into a highlight real moment for the Internet. It just wants to tell a story about pride place and a town that loves hockey so much it starts to believe in something bigger than itself. At its core, this movie isn't really about hockey. It's about identity. It's about what happens when a small town that usually gets ignored suddenly gets a shot to be seen. Mystery isn't just a backdrop. It's the whole point, the frozen streets, the local biases, the gossip, the rituals, the way everyone knows everybody. All of that gives the movie its heartbeat. The big game matters, sure, but mostly because it means something to the people standing around the rink, not just the guys on the ice. Russell Crowe gives the film a sturdy center, but the real strength of Mystery Alaska is the community around him. Mary McCormick is also wonderful as his wife who maybe is a little too flirty with Charlie Danner and that prick can't even skate. Now to be fair, it's not a perfect movie. It wanders a bit, some side stories feel undercooked and the tone can bounce around a bit, but there's something likable about the movie that it's a little rough around the edges and still manages to make you care, and this one has that quality. It's earnest without being corny, sentimental without completely losing its footing, and funny in that dry small town way where half the jokes feel like they were born in a bar after midnight. John Beebe's speech before the third period is still 27 years later, the best movie sports speech there's ever been, and I'm not a rah-rah speech guy, but as a player, my friends and I would often say to each other at half time of football, basketball, and soccer games, anybody fucking tired still gets me fired up typing it. Incredibly fun and well acted by Crowe, hot damn. Seen through a modern lens, this movie works best as a reminder that not every sports story has to be huge or based on an incredible true story to feel meaningful. Sometimes the best ones are about local legends, ordinary people, and a town rallying around one big impossible idea. Mystery Alaska may not be an all time classic, but it's got grit, personality, and a genuine love for its people that counts for a lot. Final verdict, a flawed but lovable underdog sports movie that still skates by on heart, hometown pride, and the simple belief that being counted matters. Mike Myers-Cameo absolutely rules. I think it's really well-casted in the important roles, and it's very rewatchable. Gets a 7.05 modern day rating. Now I'm going to go for a ride on a Zambodi, getting wet, just thinking about it. 7.05, that's going to take us as a GRIP. GRIP? GRIP? GRIP? Uh, yep. GRIP. Cut that out, Logan. No, no, no. 6.59 for this movie. On a modern day scale, a 6.59, is that what I said? Yeah. 6.59 is going to take this to, all alone, 181st spot. We do think that Speed, Air Force One, and grumpy old men are better movies, but we think this is better than Red Dawn, Euro Trip, and Base Skip Ball. Oh. Yes. I don't think it's better than Red Dawn. Yeah. You should probably watch that again. Yeah. Yeah, you probably read it. I don't. Or don't. I'm not going to do that. We hope you enjoyed being here. Thanks for listening to the episode. Tune in next week. We're finishing March off with Casino, starting April with Clueless. Oh. And if you're new to the episode, new to the show, go back this time last year. Blast from the past. That's a fun one. That's a great one. I gave that an 8. That was a great one. Yeah, you had a good time. It's a great movie. Oh, yeah. Great movie. Blast from the past episode for you. And thanks to Logan on the controls. Learn more at upload media group, upload media group.com. Check out our net. You always say something. I'm sorry. And check out our network cloud 10 at cloud 10.fm. That is it for us. 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