#243 - Do WE want KIDS?

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What could leaking cum lead to if you're not careful, guys? Babies? Yes. Bingo, babies. I'm smart. Little children. You're still being dumb all the time. I'm kind of smart. I wanted to talk about on the show today a very pertinent topic that I've been thinking about for a while. And I'm very curious what you guys would have to think. And it's also a little disappointing that we don't have blood here because I would really be interested in hearing his perspective too. But for all of you and for me included, we're going to discuss children, having kids in this day and age, all sorts of shit to do with babies rearing children, having kids and all sorts of things regarding that subject matter. So first, the first and most important question obviously is, do you want kids? Do you want to bring kids into this world? Do you want to create new human life that will perhaps endure 80 years or more of suffering? That's a lot of suffering. I'm down. I'm down to bring in a few little shitheads personally. A few? So not just one, but multiple. Really? I feel like you got to do more than one. You have to do one to one. What do you think, McNancy? I don't know. For a long time, I've not wanted kids. I've never really just like, I feel like I've been around a lot of shitheads in my life, like little shitty kids. And it's kind of just put me off on it. And you were one? I was a very shitty kid. Yeah. I was a ass lot of angry shoes, but that was more of... What does ass on a building? I did do that. I would say it was more of a product of my environment though. I was around some people that were raising me. You were around some really soft buildings, some too fully buildings. But no, I was raised by my grandparents and my grandma was a very aggressive woman in the way that she reacted to things. And I feel like that kind of bled off into me as a kid. The kids are often the product of their environment. There's a big nature versus nurture debate on whether or not a shithead kid is that way because of their upbringing or simply because they were born evil. Yeah. I think it's really more of a nurture. When it comes to anger issues and kids acting out, I feel like it's definitely a learned behavior. Sure. I think it's both. I think it's both. But I think it has to be in your nature to be a cruel person. That is true. But who's to say that the nurturing didn't turn into your nature to be evil? But there's exceptions to each case, right? Yeah, I guess that's true. You could be born in a really shithead, extremely shithead circumstances with horrible abuse of people around you, but you could still be a well-rounded, well-meaning good person. Maybe it was a bit like, it has trauma, but they're still a good person, like morally, and treat people well. And on the flip side of that, you could have someone who grew up in a completely sheltered environment, didn't want for anything, but that turns them into a horrible person. Or maybe they had no bearing on it. So I would say it's probably, it's definitely both. Both definitely factor in to how you grow up and how you see the world and your experiences and shit. But I don't know if one has stake over the other. When I was younger, I would hate the idea of having kids because I don't think that I would ever just want to put in the effort to have a good kid. And then as I got older, I kind of like, you know, chilled out more and, you know, I feel like a year after year mentally, I'm like maturing more. So like, I feel like now I'd want to be a good dad and be, make sure I have like really good communication with my kid and teaching him the right ways. Like obviously there's not, you can't control everything your kid's doing. Like eventually your kid's going to get to a point where he gets in high school and he's going to have to make his own friends and shit, but yeah, that's all part of the process. It's why it's important to teach your kids like a strong moral compass in like, you know, putting them in a position where even if you're not there, they have integrity. Like they'll do the right thing when no one's looking. Like they'll, you know, they'll say no to cocaine. You know, but they'll say, they just watch him all the time. Exactly. They'll say yes to smoking weed because they don't want to be lame. Right. But then they say no to coke because they don't want to die. And they're not. Right. Yeah. Correct. And you don't. And if there are drugs, they talk to you about it and they don't hide it from you. Correct. It's good to be, it's important to be good friends with your kids, I feel like, instead of always being like the dominating parent, you do need to be a parent. Good friendship with your kid. They'll actually come and tell you things. Giving your kid like a safe space. They don't feel like they're going to get like fucking punched or like reprimanded just for like telling your dad like, Hey, you know, me and this girl, like started doing some stuff like it's good to have like a safe space for communication with your kids. Exactly. Like we have no kids and I feel like we're smarter than I expected. A lot of people that actually do have kids. It's really not that hard of a concept. A lot of people also didn't plan to. And we wish we would have had that shit growing up. We know what we wish we would have. Yeah. It's it's very rare when you meet somebody who actually had that like that safe space as a kid with their parents. Because it was all about just hitting you with a fucking sandal. Like if you did something bad, you got the fucking belts. You got the ping pong paddle. You got whatever whatever was in reach. What do you think about corporal punishment? Like what do you think about the idea of like spanking your kid or like, you know, shit like that? Do you think that's Depends on the degree of the crime. Is it teetering on abuse? That's what I say. You know, if the kid really fucked up. Yeah. You know, sometimes look, we're The skin's coming off. Like look, we're human beings. We're like we understand like we're animals at the end of the day. And nothing teaches an animal like that they did something wrong and something is bad other than like a pain response. Literally evolutionarily evolved to feel pain, the discourages from doing things. Yeah. I think it's up to a specific age though. Yeah. If your kid doesn't clean his room and you beat the fucking brakes off of them with a closed fist, you're probably fucking you probably be a chef. Definitely, definitely put down the bottle and probably, you know, reconsider. Yeah, for sure. But you know, if your kid like, you know, said, fuck you mom, you know, shut the fuck up or whatever. Yeah, dude, I'm putting back. That's a fucking little bastard. I don't know about fucking popping the man. My dad would do a thing. Love my dad to death. First of all, love my father. Great, great man. Great guy. Learned to lad a shit from him. Fantastic. But yeah, he kept my eyes in line when I was a little shit and I was like Disrespected my mom or what? Because we all go through a phase, you know, when you're a man. Yeah, rebellion. You get a little rebellious, you know, you didn't you fucking get the game that you wanted to get. You go, you know, shut up mom or whatever it is. My my dad would hit me with the like the back head, but up the back of my head. So it was just fucking rattle you. That was a good one. And then there was I remember I used to scrap with my sibling all the time. Like when we were like seven, I was seven. She was like 11. And we were scrapping and she like I remember literally like doing this to each other, like hurting each other. My dad went up to both of us, grabbed her heads and just conked them together. And just started like, you know, we're sitting on the ground dazed and looking up at my dad and my dad is like screaming at us being like, you know, your siblings, you should never be hurting each other. What the fuck is the matter with you? Just like laying into us. And then after that, we never fight again. We like it like fixed your relationship. Oh, I bet. Yeah, you go probably got CTE. Yeah, we looked at each other like that. So mean we shouldn't fight, you know, and then, you know, dad wasn't mean. He was just, you know, discipline is an important trait. If you don't, if you if kids if kids grow up with no consequences for their actions, they're going to grow into horrible fucking demonic. Yes. And you're just going to become an adult. Try to deter you. You're going to get the casino. Yeah. Ever. You throw the fucker out. It's, you know, it's if people don't realize what's at stake for doing something wrong when they're younger than when they're older and they and they cross boundaries, you're going to get fucking clocked in the face. Yeah. And wonder why it happened. Yeah. So I don't know. I kind of I think corporal punishment to a degree is is depending on the crime, the severity of the crime. Like you said, if you're you just didn't clean your room and your dad just starts fucking hitting you with a bat, like, yeah, bro. You're just mean. He just wants to hit people with a bat. Like he's not teaching you anything. It's definitely different. You know, if you're being like you're being straight up just disrespectful to your parents, you're calling your mom like because she didn't get you McDonald's like, yeah, you need you need to get hit for that. You need to get disciplined for sure. For sure. I think so. Or at the very least, like get something taken away that you like. Yeah. It's like a heavy Xbox player like take away. That's what it was. I want to treat you mom like shit. Yeah. Now take the Xbox away. Don't film yourself smashing it with a sledgehammer and get on Facebook. Yeah. That's low key a little abusive if not just like. See that kind of stuff. When I see that it's like to me it's it switches from the parents teaching a kid a lesson to the parents like being performative and like, hey, everybody else. Look what I'm doing. Look, look how good of a parent I am. Yeah. It's like because no good. You wouldn't have done that. Exactly. Taking the Xbox and you wouldn't publicly humiliate your child. Yeah. You destroy the ex-examination. Exactly. That's that's what it feels like those tiktoks where the moms will have like a kid with stage eight leukemia in the bed and they're like doing tiktoks. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And they could just like like frozen like slush. No brain activity. Do all what is they should call the munchies and syndrome. We're like the mother will often like make up that the kid is a disability and like. Oh, yeah. That's what happened with the. What's her name when they killed her mom? Gipsy Rose. She rose. You should we should we should fan check that. Gipsy Rose. She she got out of jail like not that long ago and she got popular on tiktok for a little bit. But yeah, her mom like convinced her when she was a young kid that she had all these diseases and she didn't. And then she like that. Yes, that is the murder of D.D. Blanchard, a 48 year old. He had to stand to death in her Springfield, Missouri house June 2015. And Gipsy Rose Blanchard released from prison after serving 10 years. Yeah. She got second degree. Well, yeah. And then she got out and then she was like tiktok famous for a while. Like people were talking about her and then she kind of just I don't know. I think she started like I don't know. She started dating some guy or something and then she like kind of fucked the guy over. I could be wrong about that. I just remember there was a there was a reason why she just rose when she got out of jail and then just immediately fell. Yeah. Well, I don't expect people who get right into prison to be well adjusted people. Yeah. And she was a kid too. So like, yeah, you know, she's given her whole 20s. Yeah. It's definitely yeah. It's crazy. The whole idea is crazy. You know, I don't have kids who I can't like, you know, put myself in a position where I'm like, oh, like, you know, listen up. Huh? That means you. Yes, you. We know you're pointing at yourself. When it comes to party power games, we've got a place made for all sorts. It's on the experts to the drama queens. It's made the JC. The finance bros. Look at those stocks, lads. We'll stick with slots. It's what we're good at and not forgetting you. Yes, you the one listening because at party power games, we've got all sorts of games for all sorts of trickles. Eligibility rules and terms of conditions apply. 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And if I want to go out on a Tuesday and have some beers and not go to bed until 3am, I don't want to have to forego that just for a kid. Leave your kid in the car. It's true. Leave him in the car. If it's a little hot, it's fine. Consider it like a free sauna. They'll lose some water. Relaxing your kid. They're getting a steam. They'll lose some water. Yeah, you're blanching them. Now this is a good... Go ahead. I was just gonna ask how many kids would be too much? One. Hmm. Why? Okay, so that's one and a half. I think three is the absolute limit for me. Three is the total limit. I was gonna say three is the most. Like a boy and a girl and then like one more. You try once. And I'm like... You try once. If it's a girl, you try again. And if it's another girl, you try again. You kill it again. And you know, either you have three girls or you get... Ideally, I have a boy and a girl. Ideally, they're in split. You know, I could even deal with like, you know, two of the same gender, it's fine. But three of the same gender, that would be a little like, you know, you need some diversity there to like ram the message people as they grow up. I can just be constantly sleep over. Yeah, you need them to round out his people. Like it's good, you know, the sister can give the brother girl advice. The brother can give the sister girl... I feel like a woman that grows up with brothers is always more like well-rounded mentally. It is. They, you know, they understand dynamics more. Yeah. Like my sister, she grew up with me and then she, her mom went out of her life at a pretty young age. So she kind of just had like me and my dad growing up. And she's definitely more of like, you know, she still has like her girly girl stuff, but like you can definitely tell she's more into like the, you know, she likes fart humor and just like shit like that. Yeah, she's more of like... She's adjusted. She's more of an adjusted. Exactly, she's more dynamic than it's a girl like girl. She didn't speck, she didn't speck into girly girl. She's like, you know, a jill of all trades. Exactly. Now, we just went over limit. I would say three max. You would say one is your limit, Magnasty. Is that what it is? Yeah, I would want more than one kid. What gender ideally for you? Both. You think they're a macerate? Oh, you want to say them? No. We're not binding. Probably a boy. I have... A boy. I have... Just because like all my activities are kind of like manly activities. So... It's true. You ain't collecting perfume real manly. Fuck you. You literally wear fucking like a Monty female perfume. Shut up, shut up. It fucking smells good. And it smells really good. Girls really love it. Girls love it when you wear women perfume. They go, oh my god, you smell delicious. I'm like, your life's being... Because like you wear like a lot of manly perfumes are like, oh like deep, strong like wood and dirt and like leaves. And it's like... Oh yeah. And you wear shit that smells like you know vanilla and like citrus. Well, yeah. That smells good to everybody. But I will say, I will say there are some fragrances that are like too feminine. Oh yeah. Yeah. Like stuff that has like milk notes in it and like like marshmallow. Yeah, like rose. Like super candy stuff. Oh, rose. Rose. Yeah. Rose is very grandma-ish. That's what that reminds me of. When I smell like a strong rose fragrance, I just think of like... Yeah, grandma. But stuff that's like very candy centered is very like... Yes. Super duper duper duper. Dude, shit that smells like vanilla or like cookies. I cannot stand that shit. Really? I love that shit. Like, yeah. Like lighting a fucking like vanilla candle makes me want to kill myself. Really? It just smells so bad. I love that shit. Yeah, vanilla is great. But yeah. Smells like somebody farted on a cookie in my entire house. So we've gone over limits. We've gone over stuff like that. I wanted to say what is the best, most perfect age to have kids? What would be your most ideal age? I would probably say 29, 30, 31. I would say like mid-30s. Mid-30s. Well, you're pushing the clock back. Yeah. Well, I mean, as a guy... As a guy, as a guy, mid-30s is great. As a woman, you know. So to the listeners at home, if you're not familiar with women's game, basically they have a finite amount of eggs that they spawn with. And basically every egg just gets shredded every month forever until they're all gone, which is basically until they're like 140. And then menopause happens. Late 30s, late 30s, 40s, and menopause happens. And then they become a huge bitch for like four, five months. And then they get really hot and stuff. And then they chill out. And then they're really nice. And they're really sweet. And then they teach AP literature. Well, not only that too, but because my mom had a kid when she was 40. My little brother, he's 12, he's going to be 13 this year. And when a woman gets older, it's a lot harder on their body to have a kid. She had congestive heart failure and she had some shit. She never dealt that without when she had me. Yeah, my mom had me when she was very old. And I was supposed to have Down syndrome because of it. They were right. You just don't. They tried to get her to abort me because they're like, cool. We don't know about this kid. This guy's definitely going to. He's don't know if it's going to be autistic. Survive to like autistic. This could go one of two ways. He could be like, you know, ripping a rabbit in half or he might, you know, be ripping a guitar. Yeah, I'm terrible. I said, I mean, guitar ripper. Definitely. Definitely. You definitely are new. But I think they've served you very well. I feel like most creative minds are narrow, atypical. Every, every, every creative mind was cooked a little bit too long in the oven. Yeah, 100 percent. So I feel like if you're a neurotypical person, like you, you really just try to follow the path of doing everything like by the books. But when you're neurotypical, it's like you can't, like you have to have consistent creative outlet to like function. Like if I go more than a few days without playing guitar, I like, I feel like I'm losing my mind. Like I just need to have some kind of like, something that's creative. Like even if I'm just sitting there shredding, like I just. Yeah, if you're making a video, we're making something or we're doing something that's like fascinating me and I get very, I get very upset. I do a temporary change room. It gets like just sitting on a couch. I get a little fussy. Yeah. Get some poopy in your diaper. So we agree for, for men. I don't know, dude, because having kids is a young man's game. So late twenties, early thirties is as much as you're throwing away your formidable years. But how are you throwing it away? I don't think you're throwing it away. Because I'm kids, dude. I ain't kids. But here's the thing, like you're looking at it as though having a kid is a sacrifice that you're making for your life to theirs. When in reality it's, you know, you're maybe, it's probably the first two or three or four years, it's probably going to be fucking hell on earth because you're dealing with like a screaming, vomiting, sick, almost all the time. Something where you have to be around at twenty percent. Maybe that if you don't attend, it fucking dies and you can't go out and you can't drink and you can't smoke weed and you can't do crazy shit like you were before. But you still need to have the energy and you still need to have like, you know, the ability to keep up. Because otherwise you have it at like mid thirties, you're fucking 50 by the time they're like 16. And then, and then what? You're supposed to be playing fucking football in the backyard and playing games in the backyard when you're 50, you're a 50 year old man? I mean, if you're, if you're like fit and you're healthy, then yeah. Yeah. Well, there's no fucking guarantee you're going to be fit or healthy at 50. I'm not really anybody to say that. Yeah. So that's the, that's like, that's the, well, I think. You know, I, back in the old day, it was like 27, 28, 25 people were having kids like, it's like the normal thing. If you had them later, you were like a weirdo, loser, reject, or you were like late to the counter or whatever. Now that's, it's the standard. The standard is a lot of late adolescents. Yeah. I sometimes I'll see a lot. I keep getting these like, uh, tweets on, on Twitter because I probably just because I interact with them sometimes, but it's people always posting like the, oh, your biological clock is running out. It's like, who gives a fuck? Well, you can freeze your own. I think 30 is like, you just, you need to be already be like knitting quilts and, and like, you know, going to, going to bingo and shit. Like it's, I honestly feel more youthful now that I did when I was at my youth. I think that is, that is, it's a gendered issue though, because men don't have to worry about it. It's true. Your biological clock for us. Yeah, that's true. There's simply, there's simply, oh, we get old and maybe it'll be a bit harder to, to rear a kid and, you know, maybe I might, but it's a, a, for a woman, you know, no matter what, if you want to have kids advancing your cards, advancing like your future, there's something you want to do. And, you know, you're approaching that time and you don't have the money to freeze your eggs and fucking, you know, pay rent to have your fucking eggs in like stasis. Then you're, then you're boned. You're basically boned. And that's really stressful and fucked up. That there is a clock. There is a time limit that, you know, eventually, if you're a couple, you know, if you're like, you know, you've been with a girl for fucking, you know, years and years and years and you're mid thirties, approaching 40, I mean, and, and you want to have a kid, but chop, chop. You don't, you only have a window and then you're sacrificing the health of the woman. I think it's more of just like, Sacrificing the health of the baby. It's more of just like telling everybody that they, they're like, you should have a kid by 30. Yeah. That's, that's fucked. I don't think we're treating other people the way that they, because there's a lot of people who just don't want to have kids. And if you're, For sure. I always thought that was weird. There, there's people who really, really care when people don't want to have kids. I feel like it's gonna be some time in a day to give a shit about anything like that, man. Yeah. Yeah. Elyne, Elyne is worried that the population is gonna fucking collapse into smithereens and that we'll have to fucking outsource a bunch of people from everywhere else to, to, to, to replace a collapsing population. Isn't it like Japan? Like, their birth rate is so low, their population is gonna collapse in like 30 years? Holy shit. No, I didn't know that. I think, I think we'll have to, we'll have to, we'll have to fan check their numbers. I think I remember seeing like a, like a, um, like an article about Kim Jong-un like being upset that the birth rate was like low or some shit. So one of the amazing Chang-Chang country, you know, get it. Ho. Ho ho. Yeah, well, it is, it is really interesting though, like, uh, culturally why people have kids like varies. Um, obviously there's economic factors into why people have kids, which prevents them, from, from having them, even if they want them. Because having a kid in the United States per child, I think it's literally a million dollars to get these talents. They're expensive. Yeah. Literally a million dollars from, from zero to 18 per child, essentially. And that's to give them like a, a quality life, right? To give them everything that they need. Maybe give them the shit that they want and, you know, make sure that they're like healthy and if they have braces or fucking tonsillitis or whatever, it's sorted out. It's a million fucking bucks per child. People can barely afford to buy a house themselves as two people. So no one's going to fucking buy a house if like you can't support a kid. The only reason people have kids now is either they, they're really well off and they saved and they have the, the means or they didn't have time. They go to somebody. Yep. They thought that their pullout game was strong when in fact it was weak. If you have weak pullout game, do not date a Latina. They will have that. They'll, they will. They did not get abortions. Yep. They will. They will. They will just spank them with a chunk. Of course. Yeah. They even think about it. Now, what do you guys think about maternity versus paternity? Like how, how, you know, how different it is as a, as a man having a child versus a woman having a child? Well, it would probably come out like dick and hurt. It's not what I meant. So. That was a good one. That was funny. I wasn't even thinking about that. Man, that would be wonderful. What is your input on that dude? I want to hear your input. Sweet baby boy. What, having a child as a man versus a woman? Yeah. Yeah. Like, you know, raising one, you know, how, how it's the same. There's no one like you and there never will be. From the producer Bohemian Rhapsody. And the director of Training Day. Will you let your light shine? This April. With a greatest of all time. There were many legends. But there was only one. Michael in IMAX and cinemas Wednesday, April 22. I mean. You look like you're trying so hard to use your brain right now. I'm trying to put a nerve on it. Where is it in my brain? Dads are rough. Dads are rough with their kids. They'll like play with the baby super rough to, to encourage them to play and to like, you know, toughen them up, you know, play, play, play wrestling, encouraging them to do things on their own, giving them tough lives. It's important to have a little bit of both. Yeah. Because I feel like, you know, like being raised by a single mother versus being raised by a single mother. You know what I mean? Oh, oh, well, shit. I don't know what's, what would be better? It depends on the person entirely, the, the attitude of the parent. But there's definitely something to say about, you know, being raised by one gender versus another. I just kind of vaguely, I think there's definitely an aspect of how that can end up affecting you. Like the stereotype is like, oh, you're raised by a single mom. You have no discipline. You have no respect for authority or you're a pussy or you're, you know, you're a fucking, you have emotional regulation of a girl and all those negative stereotypes behind it. But then at the same time, there's the, there's like, you know, oh, you're, you're good with women and you know, like talk to girls and like all this other positive stuff along with that as well. Yeah. That's why you need the balance of two parents. Well, yeah, it helps a lot. You know, and it's like you raise by a single day. He's like, well, then, you know, you could just be a huge fucking asshole. It could be like a, yeah, misogynist or like a charge. It's a shit. Yep. Red pill and upon a pod. Red pill. Yep. Yeah. Start smashing. Interesting. I'm just messing with the hammer. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Popping up sucking your cheeks in to get that good luck. Yeah. It is. It is. It's, it's interesting. There's a lot of challenges in this day and age raising a kid that weren't a thing like 20, 30 years ago. When the kid being a furry. Yeah. Kid being a furry. Or a robot. In the good old days, back in the good old days, all you had to worry about was your kid being gay. Now you gotta worry about him being a furry. Now you gotta worry about him being a communist. It's fucked up. True. We need to bring back bullying. We need to re-normalize bullying. Oh yeah. That's what we need. Oh yeah. We need to bring, we need to bring back fighting, fist fighting. Especially in school. I think there should be a gulag in school. You know, you know how, you know, it's, it's, yeah. Anyways, I'm. Yeah, it's good to have a balance. Yeah. Both. You need the strength from your pop off. And then you need the communication. You need the tenderness from your money and the discipline from your daddy. Yeah, I feel like my little brother, I can witness my little brother going through that because he has, like my stepdad's a very like a traditionally manly man. You know, he likes to. Macho, macho man. Drive trucks and blah, blah, blah. But then my mom is on the opposite end where she, you know, she encourages communication. She's, he needed to cry, like cry it out. Like, so she's, he's kind of getting like the best of both worlds where. That's a lot of his hobbies and stuff are like more on the manlier side of things, but he's also like not emotionally stunted or like. We're sure. Afraid that. Advances. Advances. And this is not to say that like same gendered parents, like having two moms and two dads is like in any way an inferior method of raising kids or whatever. And that same dad. Sure about that. All I'm saying is that, you know, yeah, like, you know, there's, there's differences in how, you know, Jandu's raised kids instinctually. I think that there's an instinctual difference between maternity and paternity. Yeah, 100%. I agree with that. Really. I know, I know plenty of guys who got two gay dads and they're fucking legends and people got two gay moms and they're pretty good. Soup has two dads. There you have it. Okay. It's literally successful. Case in point. Case in point. It doesn't really matter who's raising as long as people of good, of good values and good qualities and it is said we're raising you. And as long as you're being raised by people, because we live at an age where, you know, parents are just giving the iPad to their fucking baby and letting them do the thing. And they just drool. Yep. They sit there. They want to cocoa mail in or they watch. Have you guys seen this new AI fruit island thing? Oh my God. Yeah, a little bit of that. I've seen it on like Twitter sometimes. I've seen a white strawberry get picked up by two big fucking bulk-ace eggplants and dragged into an RV, mercilessly fucked. I keep seeing the cat version where like there's a girl cat who she keeps having do-do diarrhea and then her current cat boyfriend leaves her because of the do-do diarrhea and then a big fucking Chad cat comes in. He's like, I'll accept you. Then she diaries on him. Then he leaves her. That's the one I keep seeing. I always see the one and it's very like, it's like, it's like, obviously an adult used an AI to make a situation where it's like, it's very cuckie. It's like a white dog and a white female dog and a white male dog. And then like this big black water comes in. He's like, doosh, doosh, doosh, doosh. Obviously, and like the white female dog's like, oh my God, like right where there's probably there's a big old fat fucking cuck to put in my pussy. And it's like very like, and it exists on YouTube kids. Like it's just, it's like people just like living out this like cuck situation of a woman leaving her white husband for a big black bull. And it's like this kid's absorbing. I would just like to point out that this is not a new phenomenon. People, especially writers and cartoonists have been sneaking their finishes. Into their fucking, into their Nickelodeon and fucking Cartoon Network shows for fucking 10 fucking years. There was literally a show where there was like a lot of cuckold and like, BBC, like fucking white girls like imagery in like a fucking Nickelodeon show. Like there's a, there's a prison like a whole like, oh yeah. Oh, of course. Yeah. But it's funny. A lot of adult innuendo. We didn't know it was kids. Oh yeah. Yeah, but not adult innuendo. Innuendo is one thing. Cause you know, if you're a clever writer, you know, you're writing jokes for the kids. Yeah. Cause when we watched this kids, we didn't know what it meant. We didn't have no idea. Yeah, then we grew up in the Dolce River like, what the fuck I didn't realize. And then you're like, holy shit, that's funny. But there's a difference between that and then literally just sneaking in like finishing symbolism and imagery just for your own, you know, advancement of whatever. Yeah, your agenda. Yeah. People have always been, you know, kids, even when YouTube came out, I mean, you fucking remember Spider-Man and Elsa? Do you remember? Yeah. I don't know if the viewers at home are old enough to remember this, but Elsa gate was this big thing. Bank of the World. Wasn't that long ago? It was like 2017. I said, yeah, 2016. Yeah. It was Spider-Man and Elsa. People were like live actors would dress up and then do like really sensually explicit shit. Like pregnant Elsa and shit. Yeah, pregnant Elsa. I mean like fuck Elsa and then she gets pregnant and then like the whole comes in and like punches your stomach or whatever. Yeah. Very, very weird shit. People like cutting themselves in bathtubs and shit like that. It was like pretty good task. But your kid was saying they should, you know, anyone on YouTube kids was watching they should. And it's like the same way that, you know, we've always had a sex talk with our kids. We're going to have to have a similar talk. It's very good to have that early on with your kids just so they understand. The internet talk. Yeah. Yeah. Internet talk. They're going to learn whether it's from you or from shit poster 85. Yeah. I kept seeing this clip, this recurring clip on Twitter for a couple of days and it was like a Roblox server and it was literally just like a Roblox, a naked Roblox character. And like he was like holding like the standing up holding the woman Roblox character and just like bouncing on his dick. And that was just like the animation of the character. I don't know if it was two different characters doing it together if it was just one guy that was able to make a model of that. But it was just like, yeah. So like shit on Roblox, like Roblox is kind of scary for kids because like they're seeing shit all the time. I remember my little brother when he first started playing Roblox. He was scared of that blue furry character with a big smile. Puppy, puppy. He kept seeing that and he was like scared of it. And my mom didn't know why because she didn't let him play like scary games. But there's like scary shit all over Roblox. So like, for sure, you know, it's a sandbox game that anything could exist in it. Flip side of that, what's even more harrowing in this day of age is isn't that you're going to get molested on fucking club penguin or, you know, Roblox or get some guy who's going to talk to you and chat and sex you up and chat. That's a fair bit innocuous. I mean, it's not innocuous. God damn, let me strike that from the record. It's fucking disgusting. Roming kids online is fucking disgusting and a porn and you should get your fucking balls cut off for it. Okay, with that being said, there's levels to it where if I were a kid getting abused online, I'd much rather a dude do it over a text on Club Penguin Iceberg than being in VR chat with a fucking VR helmet on unsupervised at night as a kid in a fucking with a bunch of weird furry people coming up around me and grooming you like IRL essentially like in person. It's close to actually getting touched as you can get. Yes. And that is like widespread and rampant. I wonder how many people have become furries or like fucked up because of VR chat. No, for sure. But typically, people get into those weird like they get groomed into it at a young age. Now it's on discord, but before it used to be on forums. Tell them that. You know, people get groomed into that sort of. It's what I've seen so much fuck shit on the air chat. That's that's one of the games that my kids would never be allowed to know. I would never unless I'm in there with them and we're pointing and laughing. That would be the only scenario I remember so clearly. I I would not. This is like two or three years ago. I went on this view. You know, I was I was making a lot of VRJ content and my whole stick was and I would go on. I try to find a world that was interesting and then like the entire video would revolve around the world and like, you know, talking to the people in the world and like Gaging like what the people are liking this fandom or whatever. So it would be furries or it would be like people who were into Undertale or it would be whatever whatever whatever. I found this one server that was called Little Snacks Playtime and it was a Fucking daycare. It was like a literal daycare center. And so I'm like, oh, this is interesting. What could this fucking be? And so I joined it and you know It was an age regression Roleplay server so people would go on and then like, you know adults like literal adults Pretending to be babies like pretending to be little children now now there's like I guess from a therapeutic point of view if you're a fucking psychologist or a therapist you could say Oh, this is good for people who have You know suffered a traumatic childhood experience and want to relive the childhood and this is like this is putting the pieces of themselves back together Whatever what you fucking do in your own bedroom is your fucking business What do you do in your own time is your business if it helps you if it makes you happy fucking great? I don't care what I do care about is When I join a server like this and a bunch of people are like age regressing and pretending to be babies and Amongst that there are literally two two literal like an eight year old and an 11 year old On the server playing with them And so I go up to the kids and I go hey guys I don't know how to put this but the server is not for you the servers for like Adults you need to go to a different server You should go to like go go play like the gun game cops and robberies or go play like the the frisbee game Any any any server but this and they're like oh, but I like the map. I'm playing with all the toys in the map I go I know buddy, but you need to go to a different thing and then the 11 year old ended up convincing the eight year old Okay, let's go and then they left the map And then as soon as soon as these kids left the map There was like four or five fucking weirdos in the server that just switched out of baby mode and into like adult Man voice going hey You took away my friend and they started like yelling at me For taking their friend away and I'm and I was I was giving them so much shit like you guys are fucking gross Like you guys are actually fucking gross these are actual kids and this is like this is like a sick Perverted thing that you're doing and then this lady is like there's nothing sexual about this There is nothing sexual about this and I go and I point to the walls of this virtual daycare And there was every fucking pride flag known to man on the walls of this daycare I go if it's not sexual then why is there all this fucking sexuality shit everywhere? They didn't have an answer for that and then I got kicked Made me so upset I didn't touch the orange hand for a fucking like a year Oh god, maybe that's like he needs a bit better Like actively witnessing that like grooming shit It made me it made me shake with rage dude. It made me literally shake with rage What's insane is people like that they don't understand like how harmful they're actually being It's horrible And it's like if you were like if you were a victim of child sexual abuse, maybe don't repeat the fucking cycle Right. Yeah Yeah Yeah, that's very very odd because you would not do that in person. Really you wouldn't I mean some people would but You know like even if it's not inherently sexual Why are you trying to be friends with an eight-year-old as a grown adult 100%? You know, oh Strangely therapeutic Yeah, you know, fuck your therapy like at that point fuck your therapy if you need an eight-year-old To make it happen. Yeah Um, so yeah, I don't know. It's weird especially online games Especially vr my children are never touching and on this What do you think is the appropriate age to give your child a cell phone? Like a iPhone a smartphone I'd say like 12 13 14 when they're getting my little brother age years probably my little brother is 12 And I gifted him an older iPhone for his 12th birthday Yeah Because there's a societal pressure involved Yeah, there's also a safety in it too. It's safety. Yeah when the when kids get at that age They want to start hanging out like outside of home with you know kids as well And they don't want to be with the flip phone I know I'm gonna my kid's gonna have a flip phone that they could text from and all that shit But they're not gonna have a smartphone until I oh, they're not getting a thousand dollars iPhone. No way I had an iPhone it literally looks like an iPhone 8 like it still has the top and the bottom. I think it's an iPhone You can't He got to one for for the audio You're big I don't remember what it's called, but I think it has like two years left on it before the updates stop or something Just a little you know something like good for a little kid. It's small to keep you know He doesn't have a fucking iPhone 17 pro max and you know, it's just something You know if it explodes one day, it's like, okay, well it was 90 dollars Yeah, yeah Circling back to games for a sec I do think that one game not that these exist in the capacity that they used to unfortunately But I think that it would be important to build character to make your kid being like modern warfare two lobbies Sure For their developmental years Did you guys see the model for 2019 was like blown up recently? I think it's just a hand Six dollars Had more people playing than the than the blackout of seven Like Sucked in so oh you didn't like one for 2019 No blank of seven. Oh, no like the new one. So I actually have a strong opinion about that So blackout six Was I liked blackout six and I played it so much. I got dark matter on all my guns So I like played it for quite a bit and then blackout seven came out and It felt literally like blackout six dlc But I will say that I like blackout six more than seven and I think that seven Or I like seven more than six and I think six should have been seven and then I don't know what the fuck i'm saying We need a new host. I like seven more than six. I feel like I'm exploring. I'm exploring. Yeah I wish that they would have never released blackout six and then blackout seven should have just been blackout six Like it's just the maps are better the gun plays better It has looked it's looked like the same cod to me for like five It has like they they need to stop doing the thing where they're making Like blackouts back to back years or modern warfare back to back years like they need to have that time in between Actually like you know grow a game it doesn't feel any different I miss I miss I miss like a three-year cycle Oh, yeah, yeah It's like I found that it's kind of like Like the same thing just like maybe the bump up in camera quality and An extra little oh an extra megapixel. Hey, oh, we put a button on your phone now You can use for camera and then nobody fucking uses it there's To what do we're saying there is definitely an importance to like letting your children interface with the internet It's just at a certain age I'm not if my kids are going into xbox lobbies or if my kids are gaming online And they get really into gaming and they're like gaming at nine or ten or eleven and they want to do like online games I'm not giving them a microphone. I'm not giving them a microphone. Yeah, that's a little really Well, if you're as soon as their balls drop and they're not as squeaker anymore, then they get a microphone Right, then they can say like A phrase without a voice No one says no one says squeaker anymore. Nobody says it anymore. It's an old-head term What if you're if you're an audio listener at home and you're and you're a modern gamer and you're a young man Let's say anywhere from like 15, which you probably shouldn't be watching this by guys you'd be 15 But if you're around 15 to like 17 And and you hear on on xbox live or on the psn network a really young kid who's like really high pitched Do you what do you call him? Do you call him a squeaker? What's the term now? I'm curious I don't know if there's ever been a new one Let uncle know little bitch bitch pussy But yeah, that's I wouldn't give them The ability to interface with strangers online until they're like old enough to know what that entails And you know, you have to have the internet talk with your kid before they even like get an iPhone before they're even on Ready to launch your business get started with the commerce platform made for entrepreneurs Shopify is specially designed to help you start run and grow your business with easy customizable themes that let you build your brand Marketing tools that get your products out there Integrated shipping solutions that actually save you time from startups to scale-ups online In person and on the go. Shopify is made for entrepreneurs like you sign up for your one dollar a month trial at shopify.com slash setup The new You have your whole facet. It's it's the new it's the new sex talk You have the talk about the birds and the bees you have to have a talk with your child about the internet and that You know, the internet is something that you know, you there's limitless Knowledge anything that you want to know you can find out and research There's bad list and please don't type in how to make a bomb. Don't do that There's ban list entertainment. There's ban list Distraction and most of all, you know and and within that distraction. You're going to see things that you know excite you You can see things that horrify you. You can see things that make you sick You're going to see things that traumatize. You're going to see people die in horrible. Fucking. Oh. Yeah. And you're going to see people You know making love in fucking horrible. Fucking ways Twitter will be off limits until So they're like 45. That's I don't think I'm not even going to tell him. It's a thing Yeah Daddy what's actually everything I have will go fucking Communist fucking sewage. Let's say something sewage. It's it'll give you a virus But yeah, our kids are fucked because you're not gonna be able to watch porn We'll be able to know exactly what the fuck the deal is and we're too technically literate like we'll know You know, hey buddy. Why you getting incognito tab open? true Shit you could have got away with like millennial kids You can't probably yeah, I was gonna stick is like our parents like they didn't they didn't use computers grown up So like we were weird shit But now it's you know, well you instilled it's a virus It was a virus and and I got so scared my pants fell down because I didn't have the belt on and I was trying to put my Pants up because the virus Are you saying it'll work anymore? I'm just gonna be like look son if you jerk it off. It's fine as long as you're not gay We're good Correct. Don't it's not gay porn We're fine. You said not the dad Yeah, only only I could watch the it's genetic. It's a generation. Yeah, I remember I got a Certainly talked about it before but I got a vicious virus on my mom's PC when I was younger for downloading porn online wire Oh Dude be fucking controlling your computer and shit Reinstall your entire like software gets into like the fucking deep part of your files It literally boots with your like when your PC boots Yeah, I was boots with it. We definitely live, you know in a different age, especially, you know Like by the time that we have kids and they're in middle school there in high school I feel like curriculum. I feel like how people learn I feel like the blueprint of how people are going to learn is going to be dramatically shifted With AI it's it's it's practically a Defunt system, you know, we're literally American schooling is literally based around like 1910s factory working. Yeah, like that's that's why everyone's on a schedule. That's why everybody walks down the hall That's why when the bell rings you go because in a factory the bell rings and you fucking go Yeah, and you know, this is it. This is you know, we designed school under this blueprint I'm like Rothschild or something or Rockefeller. They kind of like design that 100 it's a hundred year old outdated system But yeah, one of our one of our benevolent benefactors decided it would be a good idea And I mean it was a good system for what it was It's just that now, you know, the whole thing of you know back in our day would go to math class and you know Hey, why can't I use a calculator on this test? Oh, cuz you don't have a calculator in your pocket You don't walk around with a calculator in your pocket, but I do I literally do I have a file. Fuck you. I walk around with God in my pocket actually literally The knowledge of the whole universe and I and Yeah, and now and now it's it's that same principle Except with critical thinking as a whole because I don't need to say oh How how am I supposed to you know to kill a mockingbird right a report on how you know Atticus Finch was actually etc. etc. etc Now I could be like Grock Write a report for me on how Atticus Finch was blah blah blah blah and then it'll it'll it'll get me some shit And then I can just rewrite the structure of it so that it doesn't get pinned like you can just cheese the system and and There's no consequence for yeah There's no way to like prove it really unless no little Tim He couldn't spell three letter words and then he comes out right in a 500 page essay or some shit Unless they're in person writing with long hand Yeah, like and you're watching them. There's no way cuz even if you're like, oh, yeah, you have to write it all out with pencil You know anyways people just fucking generate it and then just transcribe it I feel like we need like I feel like it's gonna turn into a point where a lot of classes are gonna be more towards like Like extracurricular type classes like you know if we were in class we had to do like it was like auto class And there was like economics class. Yeah, it was like classes where you had to be there and like the work that you were turning in was like Physically proving that you could become something I feel like that's where education has to lean towards because AI is unfortunately here and it's stuck here and it's not gonna go away so We so we're all gonna become tradies essentially We're gonna we're gonna phase out the the typical school and we're gonna replace it with just vocational schools Like Electricity But just like classes that are more just hands-on because you need to like You know like things that AI can't do for you like AI can't make you show up to class and Learn how to rotate tires, you know like those stuff get to do in your Right, you know that that would probably be a good way, but it's weird. We're living on a in a very precarious Part of like human history were like, you know, we're creating an AI that's Allegedly hit, you know, a GI which is kind of wild. I have no idea what that means I think what happened is it's like a super super intelligent like really cranked out AI because he had like AI for a minute And what I think happened is like the breakthrough what I read is that the scientists went to gamer subs dot gg and used code goons for 10% of their order and just They just dumped Grandma's ashes and crusader aid all into the server bay and that supercharged AI And now the only way to compete is to go to gamer stuff sad gg and use code goons for 10% I have to use code super super charge your brain So that you can you can compete with the great replacement that is the AI that is the great relationship The only way we will defeat AI the only way the only way is to go to gamers. That's a gg and use code Goons for 10% of your order or use cheeky calm or if you if you just smell like shit You can go to use cheeky calm which we know the force like most of you That is you se ch ee ky Dot c om forward slash g o o n s We're 10% up you can see kids can spell he's gonna spell I almost couldn't spell either AKky Use cheeky don't go to the school which goons and give us those hg forward slash Nothing just use code goons Yes fucking Damn who wants to have a kid? Let's all have one together. Let's adopt a goons kid If you adopted what race would you adopt? Hmm Question. Oh, wow. Why can I go with blazin? You can go with whatever you want. I would have a blazin because they're rare Because they're hot Okay, I'm not who the hell was a guy who adopted the the daughter do we marry who's a famous actor? Oh What the fuck you guys remember this? Who was the actor who married? his adopted Well, I'm not Woody Allen Woody Allen come on actor and filmmaker Woody Allen who married soon he preven who would he's wrong? You literally did they oh Oh, no formal adoption You never adopted her he was not legally your stepfather, but it was a long term partner of her adoptive mother Woody Allen did make some good movies If you You've never Surely you have wasn't he and honey. I shrugged the kid or am I am I tripping? No, that's not I'll also see Ben and Woody Allen movies I'm so I'm so sorry for confusing Woody Allen with them. I Think Matt Fruehr. Yeah, I confused it with no make Rick Moran is confused with Rick Moran is Oh, yeah They look very similar Okay, Rick Moran is is not controversial luckily tonight doing bad Well that was great Well, if you you know and one last final question for the kid talk Just to consolidate everything what would you name your kid if it was a boy and what would you need your kid if it was a girl? Hmm Eric Eric Eric the fourth Eric and Erica for Eric's So first name Eric middle name Eric Eric Another middle name and then have four middle names Eric and then have four of them before Eric's I think we're good bastard. Were you actually name them after you though? Do you know hell no no way? No, I don't I don't want that kind of confusion and narcissism in my house Yeah, they get a column junior Yeah, I Don't know like like a Trey you or something cool sounding. I don't know a Trey you were probably not like Braxton Right Never a Trey you's from never ending story, right? That's bad. Oh, I was just it's just a band I thought of off the top of the head. I was just thinking of like yeah a Trey you is Chungus hurts You're upper Chungus upper Chungus I wouldn't do like I wouldn't do like Bob yeah, her bill Frank. Oh, what the fuck? I wouldn't name my kid Frank Yeah, but you're your Italian singing away with it Frank Giovanni middle name maybe Lucius Okay They were and if they were a woman right Olivia Elizabeth Victoria Those kind of like a lesb Elizabethan names. I think are really cool really pretty Yeah, I like those Well that it's French I've only met rich sequishos actually on the contrary Rich in spirit rich Broke sequishos out there You're a broke sequisha, please come below we love Comment your yearly You know if you're a broke lady named sequisha any any race doesn't matter We would love to have you on the show love to have you on the show Sequish Dude, it's a quiche your thumb I Don't know I still like I still like the idea of a jacob. 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