#596 - WWE Superstar Drew McIntyre on His Hatred of CM Punk, Why Aliens are Real & Breaking His Neck

This is an I Heart Podcast. Guaranteed human. No gloss, no filter. Just stories, spoken without fear. A person who is not generous cannot be an artist. The world will be at peace only when it is ruled by poets and philosophers. Listen to my weekly podcast, the Pooja Bhachon on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Come for the honesty, stay for the fire. Just go on the internet and Google his name and get the character witness reports of the people that know him. He's a genuine piece of crap and get the character witness reports of me. I only ever tried to help people and help people and encourage people to chase their dreams and learn from my mistakes. He's absolute trash. Hey guys, Bobby here. We're gonna talk with WWE superstar Drew McIntyre and I don't know much about Scotland. Never been to Scotland. We talk about food and everybody comes from a place that has interesting food. Would they eat in Scotland to me? No, I had never heard of this before. So we'll get into food. We'll get into his parents. Obviously I'm a big wrestling fan and we didn't talk wrestling the whole time. Like I'm always curious to know like how much do you have to eat? You know, what do you eat? What were your parents like? And so we do this a lot with Drew McIntyre. He's the chosen one. He was the chosen one. And then he had a full on comeback story winning multiple world titles, headlining WrestleMania. We're getting ready for WrestleMania 42 which is coming up April 18th and 19th. If you're watching this when it comes out it'll be coming up this weekend. But one of the biggest stars in WWE joining us right now, here he is, my conversation. He's a monster by the way, big dude. Like on TV he's humongous against other humongous people. He's humongous. Here he is, WWE's Drew McIntyre. Drew good to see you. Good to see you buddy. We haven't met before. How tall are you? I am six foot five and a half and it is the half inch that makes all the difference here. When did you start growing as a kid? Were you a large kid? Yeah, I was always tall. That's not like America where there's a lot of athletes who are tall. There is very few people in Scotland that grow as quick as me. And I was very tall, very skinny. I was always put in the back of the school photos. I got a bit of a complex about it. If you see the school photos from age four onwards I'm always in the back row. I'm always head and shoulders above everyone. You know, girls grow faster than guys. So there's a couple of girls that are, you know, up to my chin maybe. And then eventually I just disappear out the shot. Was your dad a large man? Yeah, he was always called Big Andy. Growing up he was six foot three and the kind of largest man of the family. The doctors, I don't know how they figured this out. The doctors had told my parents that I'm gonna be huge one day. My brother's gonna be pretty tall. And I kind of stuck with that my whole life. And whenever I'd hear my dad call Big Andy I told him one day I'm gonna be giant Drew. And also Andrew McLean Galloway. That's my real name by the way. I'm Drew McIntyre on the wrestling, but Drew Galloway in real life. I'm Andrew McLean Galloway the fourth. So my dad goes by Andy, I go by Drew. He goes by Big Andy, I go by Giant Drew. I also have a name that's not my real name. My name's Bobby, but Bones is not my real last name. Oh really? Yeah, so my real last name is Estelle. And most people didn't know that until my wife, because my wife, she uses her real name, our real name. And so, but she didn't wanna go by Caitlyn Bones because she's that son of a stupid. So she's our name. Is that, is it weird for you? And do you have people that only know you as your original name, like your family? No, I mean, I drew this by my name a whole life. So I wouldn't basically just call me Drew. But your last name. But the Galloway, no, I mean, very few people even mention it now. Even like in the bank or whatever. Like WWE's got so big now, like especially with ESPN Netflix and the likes. People like Mr. McIntyre, wherever I go and I slide over my information, they're like, oh, and they're disappointed. It's like, I'm sorry, that's not my real name. But you know, I have a real life outside the wrestling, you know? Yeah, people will do that too. Sometimes they'll look at mine and be like, oh, your name really isn't Bones. Like they're a little, yeah. Yeah, exactly the same moment. My wife's name is Caitlyn as well. That's interesting. How long you been married? We've been married for nine years now. Did you guys move to Nashville together? Yes, yes, that's a fun story right there. We lived in a St. Petersburg Tampa area for, my goodness, I don't believe that. We would be together about 13 years. We probably spent about good eight, nine years there. We've been here for five years. Somebody do the math real quick. And we just decided we needed a change. And one of the fellow wrestlers, Irishman, Seamus had moved here and kept chipping away at me trying to move state. And I didn't want to move anywhere. I was like, I'm fine. Look at the palm trees, the sunshine. I know on Christmas day, it'd be nice to have Christmas weather, but 100 degrees is fine, whatever, it's better weather in Scotland. And my wife is from West Virginia. She wanted the seasons. And so he started chipping away at her instead. And she convinced me to move. Like with the wrestling, we can live anywhere. As long as it's a tax-free state, I'm happy about it. And we made the move. We got an RV. Most of our stuff went on the trucks, but we got an RV so we could transport our cats. You know, they're our kids. And we made it as far as Perry, Georgia with her driving. And then old master of the driving here, old Drew, got a license to America. I couldn't drive when I was back in the UK. I probably shouldn't be driving. I'm still figuring it out after years and years. I was leaving the gas station in the massive RV, the 15-foot RV. And the back of it caught the sight of the, I don't know what you call it, but the gas pumps. And thank goodness, you know, some have the metal around them. Thankfully, it had metal around this particular one because I've hit something and I went, and that's weird. So instead of stopping, I put my foot down as I pushed through it. And I ripped right through the back of the RV door through the side of the tire. And we got stuck in the gas station that night because of me and Perry, Georgia. And as the night went on, some unsavory characters showed up, some fights were breaking out in the gas station. I called AAA and asked, can you send some help? I said, well, you don't have, you know, like van insurance, truck insurance, whatever. I said, oh, can I get some? I was, oh, absolutely. You know, sign up and I'll kick in. Like three days, I need it right now. And it's like a Saturday or something. And then into Sunday, I was like, what, we can't do anything for you. Go screw yourself. So I called around, nobody could help. So we had to spend the night there. And yeah, yeah, she was pretty, pretty upset with me. But eventually we got to Nashville and we love it. Did you sleep in the RV that night? I slept almost instantly. She basically said, this is your fault. I'm going to take the cats to the bed. You stay up and guard. I went, no problem. And I think I have like a, my old form of narcolepsy, which is great considering my job and traveling 52 weeks a year. I can always sleep. But yeah, I fell asleep instantly and had her shaking me to wake up. Somebody peering through the window and there was. And yeah, yeah, I got a lot of crap for that. How do you like living in Nashville? Love it. Yeah, yeah, this is the closest to Scotland that I've stayed in America. I lived in the Louisville, Kentucky. It was a bit of a culture shock moving straight from my parents' house in university to America when I was 21 turning 22. I lived in Mandeville, Louisiana briefly. And I lived in Tampa, which was fun. You know, your twenties, early thirties, whatever, Tampa's great. And that's where you want to be. But eventually, you know, the wife chipped away. How about the seasons thing? But when I moved here and I actually kind of get out, wait, we're 20 minutes outside of Nashville, the Mandeville area, but suddenly there was greenery. The personalities are friendly. Everyone, you know, is around here. It felt more like Scotland with a lot more guns. Do you, do the police have guns? I was worried about it and walked in here. By the way, if anyone's ever come to the studio, you know, you get instructions, walk into the lobby. And there's like three options. And I was looking around like, which door do I go in? So I walk into somebody's house. People have guns here. I'm a large man walking into someone's house. I'm going to get taken out. Do the police officers have guns in Scotland? No. And nobody does. Is that crazy to even ask? Is that? I mean, I'm so used to it now because I've been in America so long. I'm an American citizen and I have many, many guns. So don't come in my house. But at the same time, you know, Scotland, there's just literally zero there. There was a tragedy at a school called Dumplain. When I was a kid, a lot of kids were killed and just even guns of farmers had, et cetera. We're just taken out completely. So it's not something I was ever around or talked about aside playing cops and robbers on your kid. When I was growing up in Arkansas, like the meal that we had was chicken fried steak. That's my favorite meal. It was a very southern meal. What is the meal, like if I were to ask you about being a child in Scotland, what's home food? Stovies, like mints and tatis, like mints and potatoes, like mashed up potatoes and beef kind of mashed up and then mix it all together with the gravy and carrots. So all mashed? Oh yeah, all mashed together. Mints and tatis, tatis are potatoes. And then if you want to go stereotypical people out there going, damn it, do I say haggis? You're Scottish, you should talk about haggis. Yes, I like haggis and chicken. You cut open the chicken, put the haggis in there. What's haggis? What is haggis? You know we heard of haggis. No, I haven't. Is that a hash brown? No, no, no, no, no, let me fill you in. Does everyone always talk to me about haggis? Everyone assumes we still run around in kilt's eating haggis and drinking whiskey in the highlands. They're like, you heard of televisions? We invented it. You've heard of television. Haggis is basically all the parts of the sheep that are boiled in its stomach and then eat it. And there's another fine delicacy. I like introducing my wife to this stuff and not tell her what it is. Black pudding is one of my favorite breakfast items. And she was like, what's that? And I was like, just try it before I tell you. What is it? I was like, try it. She tried it. Did you like it? She's like, oh yeah, yeah, I like it. So what is it? Dried blood. Black pudding, very nice. Of what? Sheep? You know what? I never clarified. You can probably Google it right now. Someone over there can check it out. But yeah. Pig blood. Dried pig blood. Yeah, get that into you. Pig hairs in your ass. But there's, can you tell me more about the pig, about what that is? I mean, all of a sudden in the UK there's a lot more health and safety standards for the food. So it's all right. You can give out a bash here or there and I guarantee. And that's just what you had as kids, right? Oh yeah, I didn't think twice about it. The end of those, put it in front of me, we had to eat. I didn't come from much money. And we felt that we had everything we needed. And our parents made us feel that way and everyone around me was in kind of similar situation growing up. But yeah, it was over put in front of you, you had to eat it. How your parents did what for a living? My dad growing up worked in a, like a fire surround company. Like where they sold just a bunch of different furniture and the likes and it eventually closed down and he now works in a prison and runs there, runs there a canteen. Scottish prisons, especially the private prisons sound like paradise to be honest. Listening to him doesn't even sound like prison. And my mother, by the time we were born, she actually was born with a very rare, I know she wasn't born with the condition. She developed a very rare condition in her early twenties. It's more common these days, say Robela Metaxia, basically the balanced portion of her brain died and it happened in her early twenties. I may not have been late teens exactly, but you know, she had a regular job, she'd left school, she was coming home on the bus one day and her legs just stopped working. And an older couple had to help her back home. And my Nana retired and started taking her from doctor to doctor, try to figure out what was wrong with her. At that time, only small dogs really developed this condition, you know, shaky eyes, shaky hands. And she walked like she was drunk. And they finally found a doctor in London that was able to kind of stabilize the condition, but they knew so little about it. She was told you would never have a normal life, obviously, potentially never have kids and the likes. Met my dad and when she got pregnant, was told the same thing as at the time there was such limited knowledge about it. And my Nana, who was my second mother growing up, she was always there to help because my mother had to kind of use the walls to balance. Then Lenton Stopper, she would balance out the backyard and hang up the laundry. She would balance down one wall with the, you know, the food for my brother and I. We'd never helped because she made it so normal. She was like a superhero. And then my friends would run around and help her. Which are all me too. And I was like, well, this is, this is what she does. But when she got told, you know, they probably shouldn't have this kid. My Nana said, you probably shouldn't have this kid. She was like, I'd rather die. And it had me and it inevitably had my brother as well, who was 16 months, lived between the two of us and grew up making us feel like we could do anything because she was born with this rare affliction which you couldn't leave the house, but she did everything she possibly could in the house. And eventually when I did the wrestling, I was the first ever wrestler assigned from Scotland to do the WWE, go for a country of five million people to that big American company. The only ever Scottish or British WWE champion of all time. Like, okay, what gave you the motivation? How did you pull it off? I was like, I had it easy. I had a superhero for a mother. Hmm. Wow. Is there any relation to you? I don't know if you're kidding about the narcolepsy thing. No, I mean, I just, I sleep very easily. I'm not legitimately diagnosed with it, but I'm convinced maybe it's some very mild version of what I think just I'm so relaxed all the time. It's like a kind of a gift, I guess, on our job in a very stressful environment. I'm always able to stay calm in every situation. Like I did a movie, even though it was 20, it's been a whole lifelong thing with 300 extras were screaming above a Scottish castle. And I was a guard from Malcolm McDowell. And when I was in a particular shot, I just lie against the wall and fall asleep. My buddy was like, I keep watching you fall asleep against the wall. How can you do that? I was like, I'm tired, so I just go to sleep. Cause there's 300 people screaming. I was like, as far as I'm concerned, I can always just go to sleep for one, two. Are your parents still alive? My mother passed unfortunately in 2012. She inevitably developed cancer along with all the other stuff, but she fought right through it. Every time I wanted to go home, she told me, you keep chasing that dream, don't you dare come back. And which sucked, but I was there when she passed and hit my dad hard for a while. He went through some real tough times in his personal life, but he eventually found his current wife, Jane. And they're very happy together. I don't have to worry about them all the time. What success did your mom get to see from you? I mean, she saw me make WWE. She saw me become Intercontinental Champion. Obviously one of her main titles in WWE at 24 years old. And I was announced as the chosen one, the kind of future of WWE. Unfortunately, had a bit of a downturn in the old career. Opportunities weren't quite there, but during the period, they got to have been honest about it. I've got my book, My Chosen Destiny available now, I'll go get it. But many other interviews where I've talked about when she got sick, I started drinking too much and acting out in ways like that, not dealing with it very well. And when she passed, I was just off the deep end burning the candle at both ends, throwing gasoline on the candle itself. So she saw right up to the good success my first run. Saw a little bit of a downturn, but she was always very positive. Like, I can't believe you're still in WWE. You're living your dream. Like, even when she was sick, don't you dare come home. You keep living your dream, you keep pushing and you achieve everything you're supposed to achieve. Cause I believe you can be one of the best of all time, which she always believed in me in that way and believed I could be the man. But, you know, I was again, not dealing with her being sick. Like she was like my favorite person in the world, like my hero. So I was not dealing with it very well. I'm such a mommy's boy growing up. To the point I moved to America, these bills were piling up, these bills were piling up, these bills were piling up. I was like, what is going on? I was like, I did that for you, you have to learn how you do it yourself. Oh my God, I'm incapable of too much of a mommy's boy. So yeah, so that was a tough, a tough period. But, you know, I know she was always there with me even during the tough times. And I had to, and I got fired inevitably when I was 29. And I had to like in WWE, if I told them what was going on, if they understood how bad I was dealing with things, they would have gave me the time off, but I kept it inside and no one really knew aside my close friends, you know, how bad I was dealing with things. And it was the best thing in the world could have happened to me was getting fired. I wasn't under the microscope anymore. I'd met my wife, Caitlin, at the time. It wasn't good timing. We got our first department together, 10 o'clock and I got fired. She was like, oh my God, what are we gonna do for money? And I was like, don't worry, we're gonna figure this out. And I still believed, like she believed I could be the one of the top guys. I'm not the top wrestler on planet Earth. This is the one thing I know better than anything. And I was able to rebrand myself outside of the company, use social media. And that was in 2014. And social media was getting so big at the time, but I know I could take the fans on a journey and show them the version of myself that I believed I should be as opposed to what I was being presented as in WWE at the time. And my name grew and grew and grew and things were going amazing. I became champion all across different countries in the world, specifically in Scotland. The show I returned to had about 1,000 people. And then the next show, the big one had 2,000. Then the next big one was 4,000. The next big one was 7,000. We just kept growing this business with myself as the centerpiece, but I was still drinking too much. So eventually as things were going well, my wife said to me, like, Drew, you got to check your head. That you're going to crash and burn. I said, babe, look what's going on. Everything's going great. The numbers don't lie. I'm running myself into the ground. You've been patient. I appreciate that. But look how well we're doing. We're able to buy our first house, not in WWE. We're able to buy the car. We're able to save, invest, create, or retirement accounts outside of WWE. That's unheard of at this point. My brother told me, you become a verb to do a Drew. Become more of a success outside of WWE. And she was like, no, the way you're living your life. And if you don't cut it out, I'm going to end up leaving you as well. So she had that talk with me. And I also broke my neck at the time. Sounds worse than it is. It was T2 and T3 break, non-displaced. So all I had to do was wear a neck cast for eight weeks. But it slowed me down for the first time in my life. Like, I'd never had a break my entire life, no pun intended. But I had gone straight from school, straight to university, straight to WWE, fired straight back on the road, rebranding myself. And this eight weeks I sat there. I thought about what she said. I looked myself in the mirror and I said, she's right. I've got to cut the negative aspects of my life. She's not dealing with it well. My mom wouldn't be happy with me. I'm not happy with me. That's what it comes down to. If you want to make real change in your life, you have to be the one that wants to make the change. And I looked at WWE and I said, OK, that's where I want to be. I want to be back in WWE. I want to be top of the card. Who is the biggest draw in the company? Brock Lesnar. He's an animal. He's an absolute beast of a man. If I'm going to go toe-to-toe with him, do I believe I can beat him up right now? And I looked in the mirror and I thought, honestly, no. I'm 6'5". But I'm not the size I am right now. I was probably about 235, 240. Not a great 235, 240, like maybe relative to the average Joe. Yes, but no, not Brock Lesnar. I got to improve my verbal game. He had Paul Haman, one of the best speakers, and in pro wrestling, you have to be able to articulate yourself well all the time. We get live fans. They give you real-time feedback. What's working, what's not working. You have to be able to ad-lib on the fly. With people like Paul Haman, you have to have a good back and forth in front of a live crowd. Keep within your characters. Keep within your time and entertain that audience. I got to get better. So after that, I changed my diet. I changed my training. I cut out the drinking. I started getting on the microphone every show in the independence and I saw the difference. Like just overnight, my body changed. My skills and the might, my confidence grew. And within a few months, I'd triple H on the phone asking me to come back to WWE. And I went through my journey. When I was back in WWE to the point, I won a big event called the Royal Rumble, which gives you a shot at the title or main event, which is coming up soon, WrestleMania. And I challenged Brock Lesnar for the title. So I sat down in the locker room one day after I won the Royal Rumble, after I challenged Brock Lesnar. And I saw the image on the screen drew my entire versus Brock Lesnar for the WWE title and Paul Haman in the corner. And I went, that's exactly what I envisioned. When I sat down that day, that's the image I had in my head. That's what I worked towards. And it's happening. I'm gonna stood face to face with Brock. I went, I believe that guy can beat up that guy. Within the confines of pro wrestling, of course, he still brought Lesnar. 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I mean, you all may not know him, but Ally McOyst is his name. He's a very famous Scottish soccer player, football player. Did you ever want to play soccer? I did. I played soccer until I was 16. That was the big sport in my area. Were you above average, great soccer player? Certainly above average. I mean, at the time I believed I was amazing. I had friends who were really, really good and they weren't getting opportunities with the big clubs. So I was okay, you got to work harder at this. So I did, I always put the time in, things I wanted to get better at. But at the same time, I just had this the back of my mind, the pro wrestling, pro wrestling, pro wrestling. And I- Even as a kid? Oh, since I was five. I put the story in my book. I said to my dad and family, I gathered a family meeting after I saw on TV for the first time and said, I'm going to be a wrestler one day. And I only know this because my dad has told me about it. I can't say the darnedest things. You know, I'm going to be an astronaut. I'm going to play for an America, play for an American football team, a baseball team. I'm going to ride a dinosaur professionally and kid, oh, you kids. And I was like, I'm going to a wrestler. And I never deviated from that since I was a kid. By the time I was 11, I was like, Mom, I need to go to training. I need to go to training. I'm way behind on the wrestling thing. And at 15, I finally convinced her to let me go to a wrestling school. It was 12 hours away from Air Scotland to import some out of England. Three different train changes had to take the train down there. And she finally agreed, OK, if you pay for it, if I can talk to the trainer, if I can keep constant updates on the basic cell phones of the time, I'll let you go if you go with one of your friends, my friend Craig. We went down together the 12 hour journey. We spent a week there for personal training. We did the 12 hour journey back. Then after that, I was hooked. I would go down as often as I could. Easter holidays, summer holidays. They'd have three day camps, week long camps. If my mom would give me the money, my nana would give me the money. I was down there learning to wrestle. And then myself and a bunch of guys started a wrestling school in Scotland because it was none at the time. And I would train them what I was learning in England. Then we started shows when I was 16. And I was about the time I had to make the choice. I'm going to keep going with the football, real football, the one you keep at your feet. The World Cup's coming soon, by the way. I'm on the wrestling. And obviously I chose wrestling and I stand by that because I worked out in the end. Were you a good student? I was a pretty good student. I was like very much, you know, I was kind of like wrestling, wrestling, wrestling, wrestling. But I was always, you know, like I have to get my grades. I have to make sure I have this education behind me. If I tried harder, I guarantee you it would have been straight A's. It was very much like an A here, B there, a couple of C's there. And I would always pass. I would study the night before most exams. When I say most exams, like in high school, I studied for all the exams the night before. It was a miracle that I got through it. I passed them all, went to university, got my degree in criminology. And thanks to all the girls in my course, because I was gone a lot. During that wrestling, I'd vanish, miss classes here and there, and they always had the notes for me. And as long as I had the notes, I was always able to retain the information. And the education thankfully came pretty easy to me. I said maths and chemistry in the legs. As soon as I put the alphabet beside numbers, I was like screw that. But I always figured like Rick and Rick and Marty's school doesn't seem like a place for smart people. Like it just seemed pretty easy as long to retain information and regurgitate the information. It's like, fine, I can retain information. That's easy. Why criminology? I sat in my guidance counselor in high school and we kind of talked about what I want to study at uni. What do you want to do next? And I was okay, I'm going to go to university because I'm waiting to be at the WMT young right now. And we're like, okay, let's pretend you're not going to do that. I was like, but I am. Like I wouldn't even deviate from it. I knew I had to believe it myself or it would never happen. I was okay, let's just assume that you are going to do it, but you need to do something in the meantime then Drew. I went, okay, let's do that. So what about this? I mean, I've got a pretty good aptitude for business studies and it was always straight A's for that area. I was like, that's kind of boring. I just kind of imagine myself doing it at that high level because you know, what's it going to do for me in the future? And we just started going through courses. And finally, she mentioned criminology. There's a new course at Glasgow Calendon, Donnie University. It's a short bus ride from my parents' house. I wouldn't have to move anywhere. I could still stay at home. I could still go down there and I could still stick to my gym, keep my training up for the wrestling. And I was always a massive ex-files fan as a kid. I was like, oh, okay. When I was really young, I wanted to play for Glasgow Rangers, my soccer team. I wanted to be a professional wrestler and W2B and I wanted to be Muldern the ex-files. So, all right, this gets me along those lines. And again, I've had, we don't even have time to tell the stories that I've got, but when I was a kid, it was really weird. I've told this story a few times. It's out there, but when I was 10, 11 years old, I had a subscription to a magazine. You know, it was called The X Factor. It had paranormal in there, UFOs, strange diseases. I read about Ebola when I was that age and stuff. And it had a sample letter for the FBI, Freedom of Information Act. If you send to this, request the documents you want, they'll send them to you. So I took my pocket money, requested, you know, Rosswell documents, Project Blue Big Documents and sent that away in my pocket money. My dad was waiting for me when I got home from school. I had dossier, about five inches thick. I was like, dad, why are you home? You're never home at three o'clock in the afternoon. You're home about six or seven. And I was like, son, why are the FBI in America sending you these documents? Because I asked for them. And I was like, son, you kept sending in America. Why are the Federal Bureau of Investigation in America sending you my 11 year old son, these documents? I was like, son, the up and up daddy, use my pocket money. It's under the Freedom of Information Act. Now give me, give me, give me. It was just going to say, be normal. I was like, I am at first took my documents. So yeah, I was a very, very strange kid. I was such a target for Billy, but I was too big to Billy. I feel bad for those Billy's. Love wrestling, love it. Do you still have an interest in UFOs? Oh yeah, I mean, I still see the stuff going on. It's just funny, no one else does. There's just so much, so much stuff coming out right now. And so many clear videos there. Yeah, obviously there's a lot more out there. And I've always believed that. I just understood through my magazine subscription as a kid that if you find out too much, you're going to vanish. So maybe focus on that wrestling thing. But it's all coming out now. There have been nine scientists disappear. That's going to scare you, that stuff. Like either dead or missing. All involved in physics, aeronautics, and they're either the leaders of their groups or researchers within the group. Nine. And people are finally starting to pay attention to the information that's coming out. I don't know if they would keep releasing videos, like fire pilots seeing things that planes cannot do. Why does nobody care about this? The pilots would say, we can't do this. And everybody's like, did you see the latest? I always use the Kardashians as an example. Sorry, it's certainly not quite relevant now. But I've seen where the Kardashians did this week. Wherever Rally TTV or whatever nonsense is viral. I was like, we'll get the one over here. But the planes are doing things that we can't do. The thing that's going faster than any object we've ever created with no propulsion at all. Yep, defying physics, coming out of the water. Yes, defying physics in like times three. Like we have the ability to know up to a certain point. But these things are going three, four times as fast as anything we've ever created. Stopping on a dime. Yes, and again, with no trail. And I mean, it's fairly obvious. At this point, you're an idiot if you don't believe. I've always felt that way, but obviously things are shaped, the way they're shaped for a reason to make people feel the way they feel. And it worked for decades and decades, but just look for the proof, look for the evidences. Pretty simple if you take five minutes into your own research. Even as I say, as an 11, 12 year old, I was so into it. And I got to the point where I was like, okay, this is obviously real, but what am I gonna do about it? If I find out too much, maybe I disappear. So let's say focus on the wrestling thing. And it's worked out just fine for me. Going down this route and everyone else is starting to open their eyes now. The way I felt when I was 11, 12 years old. I feel like they're slow rolling us a little. What you're talking about more and more is coming out, but little by little. So it's everywhere now and their documentaries, the age of disclosure came out excellent. And you had real, like real scientists, not people, not nut. Government officials, real scientists, pilots, people tend to find in Congress asking, can we please release this information to the public? I think they're ready to handle it. And yeah, it's a little bit easier to show somebody who's gonna check this out as opposed to one of the, was the one guy, it goes aliens did it with a crazy hair. Bob Lazar has put out a documentary just in the past couple of days. You know, he's the guy that worked down there. And has like seen it all. Yeah, I feel like that documentary, I'm really into it. I'm really into it. I can tell. Me too, age of disclosure is the best one I've ever seen. I agree because of all people. Legitimacy and credibility. They're all credible. Everyone in that documentary is credible. And to me, the wild part is when they talk, they explain why we don't release information because we don't want our adversaries to know what we have. Meaning if we have found spacecraft, whatever you wanna call it, and it's advanced, and we're trying to reverse engineer it, we don't want Russia or China to know what we do or don't have in case they have more or less than us. Makes sense. I imagine everybody's just gotten the same page and living harmony issues. Sorry, I don't want them to know what we have and they don't want to know what we have because it'll be Arnike, they'll take over. God, we're only alive for a finite amount of time, guys. Let's just all get along, Jesus. Ha ha ha. The Bobby cast will be right back. No gloss, no filter, just stories, spoken without fear. Addiction is a disease and it should be looked upon as any other disease. How did you cope with a reckless father like me? Join me, Pooja Bhatt, as I sit down every week with directors, actors, musicians, technicians, and beyond. You don't need to work with the biggest people and the biggest sound to have great music. I have gone through the Saab Siddhi Khachakar, reached the pinnacle, stung by the sneaker and I've fallen down again. Yeah. I am not writing actively anymore and when I see my old work, it kind of saddens me. I'm only as good as the last shot that I gave. Mom's gone, but don't shut the theater. The show must go on. Listen to my weekly podcast, the Pooja Bhatt Show on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Come for the honesty, stay for the fire. This is the Bobby cast. How much do you eat a day? Lots. What I'm supposed to eat doesn't always happen, but generally when I'm on the road, it's harder to stick to, but I get close to it, 6,200 calories. And is that 6,200 clean calories? Yep, as close as I can get to clean calories. There'll be things like sweet potato fries, et cetera there, but it's the kind of cleanest version of that that I either buy from the store that my trainer recommends. Does it feel like a job eating? Yeah, when I eat 6,200 calories. Like that's the only way I can stay at. Like right now I'm probably by 275 pounds. That's what I want to go into WrestleMania as. I wrestle very athletic style. So I like to keep my cardio good, but the size good, et cetera. So 275 is about right, but in order to maintain this weight, I have to eat basically that every day, or I fade away. My metabolism even, you know, 40 right now, my metabolism is through the roof. What do you think your natural weight would be if you just ate normally? I'd say about 230. Wow, really? I drop weight like crazy. Like when I'm sick, I can drop like 15 pounds, 20 pounds in a week. It's just unreal how quick it falls off me. I feel bad for him, it's got the exact opposite problem. Like oh, it must be so hard. It's the gain of weight, it's really hard, but at the same time, if it was, you know, harder to lose the weight, I'd probably be more upset. If you're wrestling and you have a match with somebody that you genuinely dislike. Oh yeah, see I'm broke. See I'm fine. But is that genuine though? Oh yeah, he's a genuinely terrible, terrible person. I grew up around him. If anyone, you know, doesn't know him out there, just Google him. I used to say this to the fans, because CM Punk was gone from W for 10 years because he couldn't hack it. So we quit, even though WB gave him everything and all the wrestlers that made him look good and lost to him and made him a big giant star and made him millions of dollars. He turned his back on everybody, left, took his ball and went home. Like absolute piece of crap. He came back to the company and then everybody's cheering him because they've been chanting his name for years because he is very much like Charles Manson, where he can just convince these fans that he's a good person, he's a messiah and they buy into it and I'm like, he's a talent, much like Charles Manson, he's a talent to get in people's heads and just make them do what he wants them to do. So they would cheer him and they started turning on me a little bit and I was always the Scottish warrior, the hero. I kind of, you know, they say hell, WWE, we all did it, but I was the champion during COVID, during the pandemic. When nothing else was on TV, I was the one holding it together. I was like, guys, we can get through this together. I'll be, you know, your warrior, I'll never give up on you. And I tried never to give up on the fans, even though at that point they started choosing this other guy and cheering this other guy and kind of booing me. I was like, guys, I thought it was your guy. This kind of hurts my feelings. Like I've been through hell for you and this guy doesn't care about you. And as time went on, I talked about facts earlier, I deal in facts. I said, just go on the internet and Google his name and get the character witness reports of the people that know him. He's a genuine piece of crap and get the character witness reports of me. I only ever tried to help people and help people and encourage people to chase their dreams and learn from my mistakes. He's absolute trash and it made for compelling TV. We ended up having a very entertaining rivalry on TV. We went back and forth in the microphone. He's somebody when I talked about kind of learning to be quick on your feet. He is very quick on his feet. He is very, very good on the microphone. And we shredded each other. We said horrific things about each other and it was entertaining for everyone else, but we don't like each other. And we laid into each other, like people started questioning, wait a minute, this pro wrestling thing. I thought it was, when these guys are hitting each other, it seems like they're actually hitting each other because we were. And we kind of had an understanding without kind of seeing it to each other. That listen, let's try not to break each other's noses. Let's try not to cause any permanent damage to each other. When we go out there, if we feel this way about each other, let's just let out in each other. Let's see some kind of therapy. And we never had that conversation. That's just the way I felt. And I assume the way he felt. And for our audience, it turned into gold because personal issues equal money. If you genuinely believe like any box and fight UFC fight, if you think they genuinely don't like each other or they do don't like each other, you're generally gonna pay more money. You're gonna watch and it resulted in great entertainment for the fans, but see unpunquished trash. See, and I feel like you guys were so good at not liking each other that you actually liked each other because I thought it went off so well that it looked like there was a lot of respect there. And you're not messing with me. You're not just angling me here. No, I guess not. To this day, we just see each other backstage, whatever, we were in different shows. They moved as different shows. We finally had a big match, the big blow off match was called Hell on a Cell. I'm sure you know, but for the audience, it's a giant cage with a roof on top of it. And during the match, he got a couple of marks where he was bleeding in his head. I got hit by a toolbox. And a lot of people say, you must have used the razor blade and cut yourselves like no, I got hit by a toolbox. And the middle of my head split right down the middle, like an egg. I didn't expect it to happen. He obviously didn't expect it to happen. I'm sure he was loving it, but it resulted in 17 staples. Those pictures online where I started bleeding and it was spurting out of my head like crazy. And the WWE, like we're, you know, these days, I am very much on top of the health stuff, especially head injuries. Instantly the backstage, we're talking to the referee on the headset. Look at the little weird pieces in there and saying to me, are you okay? You have to let a doctor check you. So I got out the cage because it was very, very bad. The doctor was able to look me over and I was telling him, I'm fine. You know, do a quick, quick check that I was all there miraculously because it was such a horrible headshot. But I was still with it and they were monitoring me through the match. But I bled buckets like through that match. We had this great match. It wasn't like a traditional Hell in the Cell match. There wasn't like stunts in the likes. We just beat the absolute crap out of each other. And inevitably he won. And I like to say, because of blood loss, he didn't actually beat me, whatever the story was a story. And yeah, he's a piece of crap to this day. There was no mutual respect. I understand he's good at his job. I understand I'm good at my job. I understand we create magic together. But I understand he's a piece of trash. But there's no respect gained even after you pull off an epic match because you have to have each other's back to a point in that ring. I would never hurt my opponent intentionally. That's rule number one. I never, ever hurt your opponent intentionally. If you've got real legitimate issues, you go out there, you're professional, you get the job done and then you just don't talk to each other afterwards. Like when I was a kid, it caused me a few issues personally as well. That was hard to let go and I've let a lot of things go and I did let those go. But as far as I'm concerned, he's changed in a few ways, but he's not changed in a lot of ways. So he's still the way he is. I observe from a distance and see that he's still out for himself. And there's a few people out there, I believe still out for themselves. And he's one of them. It's like, I want to give back. I want to lift up this business. I want to make sure the next generation, you know, get the information that I have from 25 years of wrestling. Now he's God knows what age is right now. Probably his 50s. I think he's like 48 or something. I know he wants to hold onto that title. He wants to hold onto that top spot until he retires and not help anybody. And you're not, you're not playing me right now. No, I guess then I don't want to give him all this airtime either. We're just wasting our time talking about this piece of crap. I've fallen for what he does. I know, because I told you Charles Manson like qualities. Yeah, it sucks you in. Like, it's amazing. It's a talent. I don't deny his talent. Like the people that, especially someone that looks like him, like he's skinny and fat at the same time. He's got horrible tattoos. He doesn't drink. I feel like you're playing me right now. Doesn't drink, doesn't do drugs. He's just sounds like a good type. Like, I wouldn't know because I'm nervous with him. Like, I'm not going to go to the bar with him so I can sit and drink freaking pips all night. So like the guy's just an absolute piece of trash, but he does have that amazing talent and he's somehow people relate to him and he draws them in. And yeah, that's amazing. Who's an awesome guy? An awesome guy. There's a few awesome guys. I usually rip on my good buddy, Seamus, but Seamus is an awesome, awesome guy. I always make fun of him for being so old. He was my older brother. I always like to joke that I met him when I was 19 and he was 43 at the time and we've come up together. But we're just a seven year age gap. So he's an older brother. We had wrestled in Europe together when I was at university. He taught me how to work out to really get in shape. I helped him with his in ring game. We came to America together. We, he won the WWE title the same night. I won the Intercontinental. Intercontinental title, we're setting a hotel room. Oh my God, I can't believe we're pulling this thing off and best met each other's weddings and the likes. You guys were best met at each other's weddings? Oh yeah. Oh yeah, real, real friends. I wish I had the speech on film because I shredded his arse. See, that's why I think the CM Punk thing because you're shredding CM Punk right now. Oh no, but it's always good fun when I'm shredding him. Like, you know, also see nice things about him. I'm not gonna say one nice thing about CM Punk. He's just getting charged massive like qualities. I don't know if that's a compliment or not. But really with Seamus, I was like, you know, he's a ginger. Like he never got much girls as a kid. I had to help him out with the girls. He was a ginger altar boy. The girls weren't exactly lining up. Like a fat ginger altar boy. So I had to help him out with the girls and the legs. Then I put him over, put over his wife. Gonna say nice things about him because he's a genuinely good guy and an amazing wrestler. When you finish a match, if it is a long, intense match, it is something always hurt, always. Not always, no. Do you come out of a big match ever fully 100% healthy? No, sore, always sore. These days the schedule is such, like we used to wrestle, we are 52 weeks a year, but we used to wrestle three, four days a week minimum. I probably did that for 18 years straight. Your body gets calloused eventually. You get used to being hurt all the time. Not injured, but hurt all the time just because of the nature of the schedule, the flights, the cars, the matches themselves. It all accumulates no matter what you think of wrestling. Gravity's still real, people. But these days I've probably wrestled one match every couple of months. They finally eliminated most of the non-televised shows. One, the talent, we're just getting hurt all the time and going out quicker. And two, for a profit standpoint, it just didn't make sense. It never made sense to me profit-wise. So now the money's in the TV deals and all the other massive deals that the billion-dollar man-knit can is constantly making. So because I'm wrestling once every two months, every three months, I do feel like I've been in a car crash after the matches and I train for each match now. I assume like a boxer, we train for a fight, UFC, fight, we train for a fight. I train for each pro-wrestling match. I keep myself looking the part and the outside, but also I get ready to take that physical abuse in every match I know is coming up, every big match. Like I know at WrestleMania in less than two weeks, I'm wrestling Jacob Fatou, whatever. It'll be this weekend. When this airs, it'll be this weekend coming up. I'll be wrestling this weekend at WrestleMania against Jacob Fatou in an unsanctioned match, which means there's no rules. We can use any weapon we want on each other. We've built the story real well over the past, and it's probably been about six months built for this story. There was like a side story. I was WWE champion for a few months, feuding with Cody Rhodes, who's the current WWE champion. And the side story was with Jacob and we transitioned into Jacob and I. And now we've really escalated. And when people see this, you'll see how far I've escalated. Where I'm harping on his former criminal past, that he served some time, that he's not changed. He's still a convict. He's still steals. He's still my world title. He's still my main event at WrestleMania. At WrestleMania, I'm gonna make him suffer and then there's no rules match. And I reckon when WrestleMania is over, even though we've got Roman Reigns against CM Punk, big match, big names. We've got Cody Rhodes versus Randy Orton, also a big marquee match. When this is over, WrestleMania is over. Biggest show of the year. A lot of star power, a lot of celebrity names will be involved. They'll be talking about McIntyre and Fatou, because we're gonna beat the crap out of each other and make everyone question what they think about pro wrestling. Whenever you are given the story, do you have much input on the direction the story goes? Oh, 100%. Especially the way the past few years have been. The writers, the creative team is led by Triple H. These days we're very in the weeds for details. In the past, Vince, it worked for Vince for years and it probably still would work. It was very black and white, good guys, bad guys. Keep it simple so people can follow the product every week. We started when Triple H wanted to make it so that, hey, let's treat the ones that are tuning out every week. We have 52 weeks a year. We can create deeper layered stories, deeper layered characters, especially if you know who you are and you're able to add those layers to your characters and able to take fans on a journey with you and understand your reasons for doing things. A lot more shades of gray instead of just black and white. And it's been very cool to have that opportunity and creative will buzz me, hey, we're thinking this this week, what do you think? And I'll give my two cents. Then on the day, you know, have the opportunity to go, hey, I'm not feeling this and go to Triple H himself and go, what do you think of this? We'll have a little back and forth. And then once I get out there, if the live crowd aren't digging it, it's, oh no, I'm gonna try and change it now. But I'll stay within the confines of the story, but we get real time feedback by the live audience. We have 20,000 people doing the exact opposite of what you thought that we're gonna do. So if you're confident enough and you know your character and you're relaxed, like I'm Mr. Relaxed, you can take it a different direction and make sure the fans start getting involved and kind of doing what you want them to do, which is number one, get emotionally involved. Cause if they're not emotionally involved, you might as well be, I don't know, not there. Are there two different, I don't wanna say versions of relief because it's gotta feel awesome too, but when they tell you you're gonna win the title and when you win the title, is that two different awesome moments? Yeah, yeah. Or do you feel like you may not win it? If they say you're gonna win it, they may change it before you. Oh yeah, I mean, I've been told I'm gonna win it. The more times that I can count and I never won it. I'm a three-time WWE Champion, a one-time world champion, but I've been told, if I had won everyone I was told I was probably gonna win, I'd be like a 20-time champion. But yeah, yeah, so when I get told something's happened, I don't assume it's gonna happen. It's just because we're week to week, things can change, people get injured, storylines change for a hundred different reasons. But when I get told I was gonna win the most recent one, it was in January, the first Smackdown of the year. It was in Berlin, Germany. I was wrestling Cody Rhodes in the third match we'd had during our storyline together. It was gonna be a three stages of Hell match, they call it, where it starts off with our regular singles match. Then it was gonna be a street fight. We fought all over the arena and then finishing a cage match. And by this point, everyone's kinda used to Cody being the kinda main centerpiece of the company. He just wins all the time. That's part of my shtick. He's the corporate guy, he wins all the time. It's like repeat watching the show every, him as the champion, I'm here for change. I'm dangerous, I'm unpredictable. I am. I was like, I'll just say whatever's on my mind. Drives the office crazy. But yeah, so everyone just assumed Cody was gonna win. And then at the end of that match in Berlin, Jacob showed up to take me out. When I was trying to leave the cage, he won a cage match by leaving the cage. And he came in, tried to take me out. Cody got between him, so I was able to escape out the cage. So the way I look at it, I beat two guys to win the title that night. It gave everyone a nice shock, because everyone was expecting Cody to win. It put the good guy, who's always kinda winning. Like it gets boring if the good guy's just winning all the time. It put Cody in a position where he got the title, taken off of him, screwed in a way. He has to chase, now he has to find some grit. He has to dig deep down to overcome the odds. And as the bad guy, I'm able to take the title and say, alright, I finally got the one thing I've been screwed out of for years. That's my character's story. I keep getting screwed and screwed and screwed and screwed. And I finally have this thing. I'm gonna be like, Shmigo and Lord of the Rings, my precious. I will do anything to keep this thing now. So it was very exciting to get told. I was getting it that day at 5 p.m. I found out before the show. That's when you found out. What about the official word that was happening? Because I assume there's a lot of conversations. WrestleMania season, if something like that happens, it's a huge deal. It has to go through the top, top channels and everybody getting the same page of the story going forward. And when I got told, I was, okay, that's fine. And we had a 45 minute match, but Cody's so good. I know what I'm doing. I wasn't worried about the match whatsoever. I just said, let's give them a show. And it got everybody talking. It put the characters in an interesting position. It gave the product a shot in the arm for WrestleMania season. And for me personally, the next day I was in Scotland. So I got to walk out in Glasgow, Scotland as WWE champion with my family all there, with my country all there. I'd won the title two times during the pandemic with no fans there. There was a warehouse the first time I beat Brock for the title. I beat Randy Orton the second time with a bunch of screens and I lost the title by the time the fans came back. Then I won the world title at WrestleMania. I got cheated out of it, five minutes and 46 seconds layers. Again, all part of the, against the character storyline. And I finally had the title in front of live fans. It wasn't just live fans. It was in front of my country, in front of my family. And I was able to tell them what I told you all. I was going to bring this back. It's taken a few title reigns. It's taken a few times getting screwed. 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And we're back on the BobbyCast. Whenever you got here, you're an extremely warm guy. Thank you. Again, I've seen you on television so much that you're not a warm guy on television. You're not supposed to be, right? You're playing that. But I was surprised at how warm and just how kind you are from the second you walked in. Do you like being the bad guy? Oh yeah, bad guys are more fun. But I think about my character, I guess. When I was younger, I was a stereotypical bad guy. I'm far enough from Scotland, we were screwy America, I know that, Jess, but it's boring. Like the fun thing about character now is I call myself the last good guy. And I speak in truth to my thing is I never want to lie, but no one likes to complain or nobody likes someone who over-explains. And I constantly over-explain why I'm not the good guy. Like, the reason the way I am is because I get screwed out of the title in 2022. In front of my whole family in the UK by Roman Reigns and his entire family, my family were there. And have you ever heard of PTSD and trauma? I have a lot of trauma. And I kept getting screwed and people started cheering the other guys and then CM Punk comes back, then you cheer the other guy and then I get bleeped to death for you all. All my fans that I fought so hard for and I'm out for three months and you all move on. Like that's part of the character shaking. It's also kind of true because the product's so fast moving, 52 weeks. There's no time to think about who's out of sight out of mind. You don't think about Stone Cold, you don't think about The Rock unless they're on TV right in front of them. And I came back and the mindset was, I've worked my life for you, I've bled to death for you and you all forgot about me. I got one phone call when I was out. So from now on, I'm gonna fight for me, fight for my family and do whatever it takes to become champion. And the whole time, you know, that's like a fun little bit but also kind of based in truth, the deep down it, it's true, but it's also not true because I get it and I love the fans and I love what I do and I feel very fortunate. But it's fun as hell to go out there and play the bad guy but also believe I'm the good guy because everything I'm given is facts from my perspective and every great bad guy has truth in what they're saying, justification in what they're saying. What's the travel schedule like for you? Every week, all over. But it's not as bad as it used to be. So you're just, you're not flying private everywhere, are you? Sometimes, but not as often as I'd like to. If it's like WrestleMania coming up this weekend, will you fly private because you know, body preservation? Yeah, might for mania. Yeah, just because of my wife and family and stuff would be there if I'm by myself, I'm not that bothered as long as I've got a direct or whatever. And we'll see how the next contract goes. The company start paying for all flight, I fly private all the time. But yeah, it's a big difference having a flying Uber when you're in the private plane as opposed to the commercial flights. And unfortunately with Nashville, no fans Southwest, but it's mostly the direct and it's not ideal for somebody my size. Do you ever have security with you and are they smaller than you every time? In America, no security until we get to the venue and our security there, and Europe security there, and there's some big dudes. I'm bigger than most of them, but there's a lot of big, big dudes. I just happen to be a really big dude and there's some bad, bad dudes. Like sometimes when I asked them, I was like, hey man, you've killed guys, haven't you? Drew, don't even worry about it. So they're Russian obviously, yes. That's just one guy from all over. Nobody says no. What is your workout schedule like? These days, again, a little different. I'm more of a preserving the body, but also looking the part. My train about generally four days with weights, but also focus on mobility and stretching and cardio. I never did cardio ever since I played soccer, football. You do yoga at all? I do a little bit like Diamond Dallas Page, former wrestler, has got his DDPY, and I use certain movements I learned from him that are more rehab based or pre-hab based to strengthen your hips and your shoulders and lower back and things that are gonna get hurt in our job. The big difference maker for me was I took on a personal trainer, Jeff, about eight months ago, who comes to my garage gym, I got a little gym in the house, and he goes through everything with me, and he's somebody who had a brittle bone disease growing up, spent a lot of time in a body cast and just dreaming of being a bodybuilder and people don't like me. Like you're gonna go to America, be a wrestler, and that's insane. For him to think he's gonna bodybuild a brittle bone disease, that's way more insane. And sure enough, he did it. He's got two rods in his femurs, but he strengthened up his tendons, he strengthened up his joints through things he'd learned, he'd read about, and he started teaching me these things and how important diet is for inflammation, like cutting out all the crap. Like basically I was eating burgers and pizzas and whatever I wanted for years, because I always looked the part because of my metabolism we talked about already, and he was at no to that's hurting you. You have to start eating right. And the amount of blueberries I eat now is unbelievable, but it's amazing for information. Yeah, for information, unbelievable. I never drank enough water. Apparently even the water's basically, beer's basically water, that doesn't count. So I had to start drinking actual water. But the difference is just incredible, how I feel with all the mobility work. I can throw head kicks. My hips were so bad from wrestling for so long and all the travel and the likes. I couldn't barely throw a side kick anywhere. You know, beyond like 90 degrees. I can throw it right past my head. Now my shoulders feel great. My lower back feels great. Apparently we are tall guy. I didn't have much of a butt. I'm growing a butt. So everybody out there look for it. She's seen my tiny tights. Thank you. When I rip off my kilts or my strip routine, you can also see my lovely butt that I've been building. So make sure you chin in ladies. What about sleep? Yeah, I mean, we talked about my male arc. Narcolepsy, I love sleep. I freaking love sleep. How many hours a night can you get? How many hours a night do you think you need to have? To operate my full capacity, I think eight, nine hours for me personally. If I get that in, I know I'm gonna be good. Depending on how busy my week is, I had a crazy, crazy last week. Just again, this is not a normal week, but I did TV last Friday. I honestly can't remember where it was, but I flew back home on the Saturday. No, that's not right. I did TV on Friday, then I got a flight home after TV on Friday, and then Saturday at two I left to London. Then I had Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday in London. Then I hopped on a flight back to Nashville, and at midnight, and then I took a 6.25 to TV in St. Louis this past Friday, so I had a bit of a crazy, crazy past week. Wow, and then you still have to stay disciplined within all of that with your food. Yeah, yeah, it's not so easy when you get to UK. Luckily, I've got a lot of contacts there, so I'm from there to get me the meal prep meals, but yeah, yeah, there's a lot of food that's bad for you in the UK, and a lot of chips, like fries, you call them here, but the proper chips, it tastes so good, but gotta be careful, I'm already getting 20 bad pounds. Three final questions. When you were coming up and you were doing The Independence, or I guess it could have been before WWE, or even back in the middle, were there any wrestlers that you looked up to as a kid that were really awesome to you once you finally got to meet them? Got tons. I feel bad because I'll forget a bunch of names, but just a few, I guess, quickly off top of my head, because everybody, I can't think of one person that's been bad, if I never watched punk growing up, so I'm good with that. See, that's why I think you're kidding about CM Punk, though. I just don't have anyone that genuinely don't like, except I don't have any time for hate in my life, so I don't really hate him, I just think he's a piece of crap. Like, I have no time for hate, right? I don't hate you punk, you're just a piece of trash. So people I watch, Undertaker has one, that I was a massive fan of growing up, and when I got to WWE, Vincent Mann put him in charge of me, as my mentor, he said, you don't listen to anybody else, you listen to the Undertaker. So he was the one that was always there for advice when I was 23, 24 years old. When I was living in Texas, he would work out of the 24-hour fitness that I was going to. He worked out of the 24-hour fitness? And Austin, he would go to the stair machine and just walk on the stairs. How you got work out in there? Well, he wouldn't lift, but he would go to the stair machine and just walk, for, he would be there walking, when I got there, I'd leave an hour and 10 minutes later, he'd still be walking on the stair machine. Oh, wow, I can't do that. And you can't miss it. 30 minutes, and it drives me insane. Yeah, give me another one, give me another. Oh, there's so freaking many. Michelle Maiko's, somebody growing up, Bret Hart, I got to do a European tour of Germany with Bret Hart. He was a massive name everywhere, the hit man, but he was a massive, massive name in Germany, and I was Intercontinental Champion at the time. You know, a title he made famous before he won the World Title, so it was cool traveling around Germany with Bret, with the title here and all the stories about all the shenanigans he got up to that he can't write about in his book, and I can't tell in this podcast. And with Sean himself, when I returned to WWE, I spent some time in NXT, and Sean had just come in there. And I spent time when I was younger with him, but I really had some one-on-one time. I didn't have to go to NXT, I could just do the shows, but I asked, can I come and work with you? And he was like, oh, if you don't mind driving up, it's like a four hour round trip. I was like, show me, cause one of the best of all time, I will take the trip to work with you. And it was like a PhD, going back and forth with him, kind of learning the way he thinks about wrestling. His IQ level was so high, just the way he, you know, thinks about how we do things in this industry and how we can connect with people emotionally. And obviously Triple H had a creative now, and has always been there just for any question I have. And I say, can we do this? I said, why don't you do this? I said, it's a lot similar to a Fit Finley, who's a big mentor of mine too. Like these get the same, like Triple H and Finley are the same, when I take them in idea and go, what do you think of this? And they go, why wouldn't you do it this way? And I went, because no one's ever done that before, you just invented it right now because you're so good. That's what they say to you. No, no, I say it to them. Oh, God, I got it, got it, got it. I mean, I wish they said it to me as Drew, you're the man. Oh my God, you've blown our mind, you've revolutionized wrestling Drew. But not all, like people like Finley and like Triple H, even like Sean as well, like just their minds are such. I come up with something that I believe is creative and I believe has never been done and I don't think it had been done the way I have it in my head because I'm very creative, I think about it all the time, but they're such an advanced level. They hear it, they tweak it, and they come back with a suggestion and I say, that's never been done. Like why are you just saying it like it's a normal thing? Two questions left. Whenever you're going into a match at WrestleMania, coming up this weekend, do you have to purposefully calm yourself down so you can think clearly? Because I'd imagine the adrenaline is pumping. It's the event. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I'm pretty good at staying pretty relaxed, especially during the day. I'm fine until it gets close to the match. But I got a bit of a routine. Now, I never really had a routine before because they keep us busy, you know, like an appearance here and maybe a meet and greet there earlier in the day. We're around fans and stuff and keeping you moving. It keeps your mind kind of off the task at hand. And by the time Mania comes around, I'll have already kind of thought through what I want the match to be, what I want to present. If it's a dangerous match like the one I have, I'll probably know certain moments that are going to happen because of the danger elements, but the rest of it I want to feel when I get out there. But I'll still have a picture in my head and the story I want to tell and the emotion I want to evoke from the crowd. And once it starts getting really close to the match, I'll start getting more specific. And this is probably something you could have thought of two weeks before, but we are week to week with a TV show every week. And I really start zoning in and zoning in. And it's like an actor or whatever. Like the words on the page, you know, are amazing. But then someone can do them terrible. And they mean nothing. Or the words can be basic. And somebody can just have such a performance. So the words don't matter. Like it's the performance you're giving to everybody. Like I've got something in my head that could be really good or something we talk about could be really good. But if you're not there emotionally, the moves don't mean crap. You have to connect with that audience. You have to get them involved. You have to get them making noise. You have to get them to feel something. Or it means, you know, Jack basically. And I'm all about just sitting down and thinking, OK, once I get out there, boom, the moves go out my head. All that matters is what's going on in my eyes. Because that's all that matters. The fans can't articulate it. But they can feel it subconsciously. If you're not in the moment, if you're not present of every single thing you're doing, every movement you're doing, every emotion you're putting out there, even for a second, if you slip out in your eyes and they see it, they're like, ah, it's just fake wrestling. So as soon as I go out there, I'm in it 100% of the time. I expect Jacob to be in it 100% of the time. And we're finished. I've been talking about this match for a long time. After a match, did you ever go to dinner with the person you just wrestled? I think this happened. But unless it's like a shame, sir. Not common. Sorry? Not common to hang out after. I mean, sometimes. Like if we went to the bar or whatever and some of the lads are there, you might have a drink with the guy you just beat the crap out of. So most of the guys, that's the case with. All right, final question. Can you buy clothes off the rack anywhere? No. No. I get this from a gentleman's playbook. I think this is from. You're welcome. Give me a free one. But yeah, most of the stuff is custom made. My weird shaped body, like my legs are long as hell and big as hell. So I can't just walk in and get a pair of jeans or the skinny jeans. My wife will laugh at me. I'm even jackets or anything. T-shirts I can generally get certain brands of T-shirts that look in my mind pretty cool, but she'll rip on me for wearing one of her shirts. But it's actually one of my. I really appreciate the time. Yeah, appreciate you having me. Yeah, this is awesome. Again, I didn't know what to expect. You're our massive guy, obviously. But yeah, super nice. Thank you. I always get that. Do you find people are surprised that you're so nice sometimes because they expect you to be the dude on TV? I get a couple of things. One, you're a lot bigger in real life and you're on TV. And I tell them to get bigger TV. And two is like, yeah, the kids are so scared of you. But then suddenly they're just hanging off the side of me. And I was like, yeah. And I always tell the kids as well. I meet a lot of kids backstage if the athletes and stuff come. And I was telling them, just remember me how I am. I'm about to be out there because I know as soon as the red light goes on. I mean, one of my nicknames is Scottish psychopaths for a reason. Well, I hope you have a. How do you root somebody good luck in wrestling? Like, I don't want to say good luck, but not break a leg. I don't know. What do you say? Is there a non-bad luck type? Good luck. Kill it, Drew, and make sure you have a better match than that idiot, CM Punk. See, I don't believe you. I love saying it because I know you're going to react with that every time. I don't believe you. I think you probably really love the guy. I just love the guy. I honestly, I do feel that you love CM Punk. OK, I promise you, I do not love CM Punk. I absolutely do not love CM Punk. He caused me issues when I was younger, legitimately. We're working together. He made things difficult at times. And the other times where I thought he was trying to help me out, he was only trying to help himself out. And thankfully, I'm not young and naive like I was once, and he's a piece of crap, and I don't have to work with him anymore. So I can run my mouth about it, and I can't help myself because I'm such a trash talker. Nice guy, but if I don't like it, I won't shut up about you. So it does have a favor. I'm giving him all this promotion right now, but I'm also educating the fans over a piece of trash. Yes, and I'm trying not to swear, and I've been really well today. As a Scottish person, we swear to punctuate sentences, and I've done so well. Maybe I swore once just almost to stop myself, but no swears, because I would be calling them the F word, the C word. I'm torn. I like you, though. Thank you. I like you, too. Thank you very much, Drew. After WrestleMania, you're super healthy. I'll be watching. Thanks for the time. I appreciate you. Thank you. 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