#4648 Waiting For Brunot

Our next caller is Pete from Manhattan. Pete, what's your question? Hey, Larry. First, I'm caller. Adore the show. Hey, I recognize that voice anywhere, Larry. That's my friend Peter Frampton on the phone. Uh, sure. Listen, Tracy, I love the idea of hiding cash at work. Can you be more specific about where you hid your money? Of course, Pete. I hid my money in the safest place at 30 Rock. Without giving it away, the place I picked is very dry and warm. Its top is hard, but its bottom is soft. And although the location changes all the time, the money stays in the same place. If you're just joining us, we're with Tracy Jordan, who is giving guitar icon Peter Frampton enigmatic clues about a secret treasure. Stay with us. T-T-T-T-B-T-L Guess what day it is? Guess what day it is? It's Friday, Friday. Gonna get down on Friday. Everybody's looking forward to the weekend. I don't know, guys. I think I'm gonna add Sam Fringe to the last link with my parlor. Right. What did he say? He said, he has his edge. I mean, only top and don't because he couldn't see you no more. What's he known about? I feel a real need to express something, but I don't know what it is I want to express or how to express it. I am not gonna talk about myself. I'm gonna talk about you, and if I talk about you, I think I'm gonna talk about me. We could not talk or talk forever and still find things to not talk about. Alright, that's gonna run. See you on the flip-flop. Well, alright. Hello. Good morning and welcome everyone to a Friday edition of T-B-T-L, a show that just might be too beautiful to live. My name is Luke Burbank. I'm your host, coming to you from the Madronahol's Studio. Perched high above the mighty Columbia as we have arrived everyone at episode 4,648 in a collector's series, a special episode of the program. This is special. This is special. Something that the T-B-T-L listeners have come to love because it's happened a couple of times before. Hopefully the Text Me Back listeners are enjoying it as much as our fans are, and that is a crossover episode featuring me and your guy, Andrew Walsh. By the way, good morning, Andrew. Good morning, Luke. Sorry I left my microphone open during that intro. I sort of chortled twice. Sorry if that was picked up on the mic. I think it's good to model things for the listeners. Sometimes you need to sort of be an example of how they should be responding to the audio. That's a good point. That's why you have that applause and laughter on your little red machine. It's called Leading by Example. I like it. And it's what we do here. How many times, I'm putting you on the spot here, but how many times have we, I was going to say crossed over, but that just sounds like we're starting a new segment on the show where we do some, what's his name, James Van Prog. Right. Medium stuff crossing over. How many times have we done a show with our friends, Lindy and Megan, from the Text Me Back podcast? I was literally going to ask you this name question. That's my foreshadowing by the way. Oh, that's right. Very good. That's a problem. I'm doing an imitation of Roblo. We're going to hear more of Roblo content coming up. I thought that this was either our third or fourth time, but I was going to ask you if you happen to know. That sounds about right. If you are unfamiliar, if you're a TBTL listener and you're not familiar with Text Me Back, it's this phenomenal podcast, Lindy West and Megan Hatcher-Maze do their actual real-life friends from high school, Garfield High in Seattle, also the alma mater of our friend, P-Fletch, and our friend Ivan. If I'm just going to start, this is the part of the show where I name Garfield High alums. Right. And just shout out to James Garfield, honestly. Totally. Hey, make sure you check out Death by Lightning. It's a good, it's an interesting mini-series on Netflix about the assassination of James Garfield. You were telling me about that. It's good, I think. Somebody was. Very interesting. It's got Michael Shannon. It's got Nick Offerman. Oh, you mean Michael Shannon from Pottersville? I mean Michael Shannon from one of my favorite R-E-M cover bands. Yeah, right. I mean Michael Shannon from one of the weirdest architectural digest home tours I've ever seen. Oh, you might have mentioned that before. I don't know if I have. What made it weird? Well, I mean Michael Shannon, it truly does seem to be a person who is not, how do I put it? He is very much marches to the beat of his own drummer, which probably is why he's a phenomenal actor and a pretty good singer. But he is very, when you see him interacting with interviewers or in this case, so like architectural digest home tour is kind of the MTV cribs for the New Yorker set. Same premise. We want to see what the inside of famous people's houses look like, but this is done with a little bit, I guess maybe it's a little more understated, but they go to Michael Shannon's. He's got this cool apartment in New York and it's just like him talking about the stuff in the apartment and where it came from. It's just so, he seems, and I don't think he's in any way trying to be unhelpful. He seems like he could fall asleep at any moment. He may still be recovering from the bullet that he took playing James Garfield in Death by Lightning. But anyway. Pardon me. How unprofessional was that? What happened to me? I couldn't even reach my mute button in time. Kima, you know what that was? That was Death by Lightning. You can't go around being worried about it all the time, but when it happens, it's quite sudden. It really is quite sudden. And maybe that was God trying to smite me before I picked some nits with you. But is it fair to say that he's in an REM cover band when he's just doing Michael Stipe's role with the band REM, with Michael Stipe standing next to him on stage, which I think is what's actually happening? Well, he's actually, he's doing that sometimes, but he's also been touring with a whole other dude doing REM. None of the, none of the original members of the band. None of the original guys. And I forget the other guy is maybe from like the mountain goats or something. The other dude is like kind of in a, I think a kind of a well-known like maybe sort of indie band. But yeah, they've now, I think it started with what you're describing, which was Michael Shannon showing up and performing with REM. And now it's become its own thing where he, I think he might be literally currently touring. Anyway, Jason Narducey, is that the name I'm looking for? Yeah, what is, where's that guy from? Not the mountain goats. I'm looking this up now because I'm totally out of my element here. He seems to be listed as like kind of a solo musician. I'm looking to see, like the first line on Wikipedia doesn't seem to associate him with any band. And I guess they, I was like, well, what do they call, these are famous people who are doing a cover band of a very famous, what would they call it? Is it something clever? Is it based on an REM song? I think they're just calling themselves Michael Shannon and Jason Narducey and Friends. And they just perform REM songs, which I kind of appreciate. Let's not be super clever about this and let's not call ourselves chronic town or, you know, some sort of, which there's nothing wrong with that either. But they're just like, we're doing this thing and we're just going to tell you what it is. Narducey deserves a quiet night. Not that this is exactly fame and fortune, but it looks like Narducey did. He was touring with Bob Mould. Oh, OK. For a period of time. That seems to be the highest profile thing that I can find here. Oh, you know what, though? Let's see. His single, his current solo project, split single, blah, blah, blah. It features, he's some John Worcester is on the drums. That's a mountain goat. OK. So I think this is all blending together in my mind. He also toured with Sunny Day Real Estate. OK. But I guess what I would say is I apologize that we ran out of time for our conversation with Megan and Linda. Because we spent a little too much time talking about Michael Shannon and architectural digest. Here's what I was trying to say. Lindy and Megan are real high school friends who have now maintained their real adult friendship. And the very name of their podcast, Text Me Back, is born out of the fact that one of them would text one of them something. And then it would be, I think it was mostly Lindy, because I'm friends with Lindy as well. And it would take Lindy too long to text Megan back. So she would then the text would start to be text me back. Like, hey, hey, you know, get back into this conversation. So they decided the text relationship wasn't working. They should start recording these conversations. And and boy, aren't we all the beneficiaries of that? Because that is the that is the impetus for the Text Me Back podcast. And I just have a grand time doing this, Luke. That sounds like a sure do fake thing to say. But I was telling you off air where I'm nothing but real. You've said before that I'm almost too real sometimes. I'm uncomfortable most of the time, right? Because I keep saying we're not recording this anymore. Are we? Because you are getting frickin over. You're you're Yahoo! serious. That's right. I'm so serious. They call me Yahoo! real estate. So anyway, but I was just saying before the show today that I just really after we recorded this, I just was like feeling like, God, what a fun hang. It just really always feels like a fun hang. And I think that translates and I love hanging out with them. And I think that what you and I do together matches very well with they do together. And I think all four of us get together. It's just the right vibe. And so I hope listeners are vibing with us. We you and I and John have talked about like, well, you know, what are the podcasts that we could do these sort of crossover shows with where we think there's a decent chance that our listeners will really like what the other podcast is doing and the other podcasts really like what we're doing. And and therefore maybe grow both listening audiences. And again, as you said, just have a fun time. And I'll be honest with you. It's sort of a short list because of like how I don't know, whatever the DNA of our show, there are not a bunch of other shows that we actually think we have that much. I guess you might say sort of. Synergy with tissue, cross over just vibe sharing. And so it is really it's been really fun to get to do this with them because it's always just like that. And you the other thing, Andrew, is you and I, we got a lot of big ideas. And we we follow through on a lot of them, but there's a lot that we don't follow through on. And this is one that we have been because that's how much fun it is. Like we at some point where like we should try to do more shows with text me back. Usually that's the last we speak of any particular idea that we have. Something shiny catches our eye and yes, and that's not been the case with this because not because we can point to any particular audience growth or anything else. It's because we love getting to talk to Megan and Lindy. So that's what you are all are about to hear. You know, I believe this starts where every good podcast overlap starts, Andrew, with a dog violently barking in the background and possibly interrupting the broadcast, but no, no, we pushed on and had this conversation with Megan and Lindy. So here we go. It's TMB, TBTL, the dog happening right now on your podcast. Oh, good. Kevin's perfect timing. He must have heard me hit the button. Yarp, yarp, yarp. He says, well, and with that sound, we know it's time to record podcast because Kevin only does that the second someone hits record. So it must be podcast hour. That's right. But you know what? Kevin knows what he's doing because you know what podcast this is. It's not any old podcast. Oh, I'm sorry. I tuned in for text me back podcast. Is this something else? No, this is something even better. It's called Timp-tul of the dog. Bow wow, wow, yippee, yippee, yippee. And Kevin's a dog. Do you get it? Kevin is a dog. You know, and that's true. Luke and Andrew are here or shall we say we're there because we're in their riverside, which means we don't have access to any of the stupid nonsense on our media board, which is unfortunate. So Lindy can't play the Trump drop where he's like, very rich. Very rich, fat shot drug. So unfortunately, the listeners can't hear that. But welcome, Andrew and Luke, to your own riverside recording studio. It's beautiful to be with you. It's amazing to see you. Thank you for sliding into our riverside. Yes. I love what we've done with the place. Thank you. We have so many Trump drops that we can play from here. If you need us to, although we actually, yeah, we, I think it was, was it after the first one, Andrew, the first election, we just said we laid off. It was kind of like we couldn't figure out for us personally, the line between yes, it's funny, ridiculous, or just kind of killed something in our listeners. Our listeners actually have banned them and I'm not allowed to play. We took a poll and then they immediately, like immediately everyone said, don't do that. And then we violated the sacred trust and played them a bunch the next week. And we were still feel bad about that. Then we never did it again. Never ever did it again. We played him like crazy leading up to the first election because it was like, what a silly thing that person thinks they could be president. Everything they say is humorous because it's so misguided. And it just has, I don't know if you've been tracking it, but it's gotten less funny. I know I haven't been paying attention at all. So let me know if anything happens that I need to know about. Yeah. Well, so on our show, we have something we called the no giggle pledge and we invented it during the election in 2024 because every I am so sorry to say this, everything that comes out of that guy's mouth is sensational. It's comedy gold. So funny. He's so funny. And frankly, the fact that he is the president makes it funnier because why is the president asking each of his cabinet members, who's on Osempic? Like what? Like what am I watching? As why is he saying we're going to lose 80, 800 billion pounds before the midterms? The midterms. Hello. Hello. So, you know, so it's just insane. So we, during the election, Lindy and I were like, OK, we're going to try really hard not to laugh at anything Trump says, because now we're in this very serious moment where he might get elected again. And unfortunately, I don't know if you guys have been paying attention, but he did. I was. T-Bowing that. Like that again. Yeah, he totally did get elected again. So we were like, every time we laugh at something Trump says, we'll donate five dollars to Kamala Harris. And sadly, it did bankrupt. Text me back podcast. Text me back. Podcast is no longer solvent because we had to donate all our money to Kamala. In the words of Maya Rudolph, to what end? To what end? Why would Donald Trump want to roast my bullfrogs? Roast my bullfrogs for my basement. You know, but it happened. He did. He did do that. And now we are going to do World War three, I guess. If we can remember the difference between Greenland and Iceland, then we will invade. So how are you guys doing keeping politics out of the podcast? So good. So good. No, no, this is our second vertical Tim till of the dog. We have we have text me back main. We have swamp person. And then this is our third part of our media empire. Swamp person is a great name. Yeah, thank you. And I can just I was saying this before we started recording, but I don't know if this is this is, you know, sort of public to y'alls text me back. Listeners are not that you're thinking about maybe doing a show that's more politics based. Is that public knowledge? It is. Yes. So we asked our listeners like because we talk a lot about politics on the show and sort of, I mean, but sometimes something so bad happens that I feel like Lindy and I need to process it. And what's going on in Minneapolis is one of those times where it's like, we can't just like do a show where like, anyways, then the frog pretended to be a cop. You know what I mean? Like, I like we kind of have to acknowledge that like the government is extra judicially killing people. And the reason that our show exists is to try to like keep everybody alive through this crisis and like make sure everyone's in the right headspace to fight back, not to ignore that this stuff is going on. But there are a lot of people who listen to our show who are just like that. This is like my escape room. So I can't solve the puzzle to get out. That's what that's how you listeners. Yes, we lock them inside the back podcast. This is the saw. Please, please let us out of PBTL. I'm taking notes. Never. So and we at Text Me Back podcast support dissociation. So if you want to dissociate from society, we want to help you do that too. So so what we're going to try to do is I mean, the show, it's not possible for any podcast to be apolitical. And if it is, that is a political choice in and of itself. Yeah. But to the extent that we might have like a big guest who comes on to explain like actually what's going on, because I know some things, but I don't know everything. And so you know, a lot of things, Megan, I know a fair number of things. You and I after you and Lindy and I were in Seattle doing my radio show, we went out afterwards and you and I were talking about this stuff. And I was like immediately struck by how really like, you know, deep your knowledge is of this. So I mean, I really do mean that. Like I have a lot of I have a lot of debt. To show for it too. So subscribe to our Patreon, patreon.com, text me backbot and free me from the shackles of student loan debt. But anyway, so so like one time we had United States Senator Jeff Merkley on our show, like that sort of thing would live on swamp person. It's not going to be like a weekly thing, but just like a little extra something to help people contextualize what's going on. Because this is like unprecedented times that we live in. And I do miss the precedented very much. Yes. Who knew? Yeah. How how much the precedent had going for it, at least for certain people. For reals. Luke and I have messed around with isolating content in the show because we like sports. So sometimes we would talk too much sports and folks would say, hey, could you keep that for the end of the show? So we call that no point conversion. I believe a guest or a listener came up with that, which is one of my favorite titles of any little project. And we did that for Game of Thrones and stuff, too. If you want people to embrace your political conversations more, I would recommend spending a week going deep on like Mariners bullpen decisions and then they will come gracing back for the politics. So we didn't get that deep. But during the Mariners playoffs run, which was still hurts me so much, so, so much. We talked about baseball a lot like we did. Yeah, we did. I was processing my baseball feelings and Lindy was also there. And says the person who looks like she's waiting for her stepdad to pick her up and take her to the game. I'm talking about Lindy West right now. I don't know. I don't know if you can see what my hat says, though. Does it say baseball? Oh, no, it says basketball. It says basketball. That's a different ball entirely. It's a great look, by the way, Lindy. You do look like you're about to go play T-ball for like a beacon plumbing or something. Yeah, exactly. Anyways, and it went on for like two weeks and then it was over. And then but we got quite a few comments on Spotify and the other podcast platforms being like, OK, girl, I think we've heard enough about baseball. Fully turned into a baseball podcast for about one solid month. And I'm talking five days a week. Like it was it was because, you know, when you do shows like this, you know, you're mostly just talking about whatever is happening in your life or whatever is occupying your mind at that time. And for for me and Andrew, certainly as the Mariners were like going through the playoffs, that was the only thing occupying our mind. So it's like very difficult to not like just end up talking about it every day for hours on end. Do you feel that way about the Seahawks or did you give up NFL because I gave up NFL and now I'm being tested like I've never been tested before because they're really they're one game away from the Super Bowl. Andrew Andrew started low keying his NFL because he volunteers at a pop up that serves food and coffee to folks who are unhoused on Sunday. Yes, how you like my friends, not all heroes wear capes. And so and so he kind of started sort of stepped back, which actually was like very inspiring and I then stepped forward to make up for him. Now I'm watching for two. Well, you're watching so hard. The other side of that coin is guess who already talked to his fellow volunteers and took this Sunday off. Nice. So you can watch the championship. I think I'm going to watch. I'm a little bit scared. I'm really stressed. I this is what we talked about on our show at the risk of recreating this all over again on our show is I'm a really stressed sports watcher. I I feel personally involved. I feel like the decisions I make on game day affect the outcome of the game. Like am I wearing the right shirt? Am I wearing the right hat? Am I paying attention enough? Am I paying attention too much? Because if I get too excited, that will also potentially negatively impact the game. And I would like to share a memory from before I knew you, Luke. I remember Lindy Tex. I was living in I think I was living. I must have been living in DC at the time and Lindy texted me and was like, Oh, my friend invited me to the NFC championship game. I guess he has an extra ticket in this box. And I was like, and I was like, what? I was like, are you going to go? And she's like, no, I don't care about that at all. And I was like, I was like, what? I mean, while I'm in my kitchen in my Richard German jersey or whatever. And I was like, you have to go. What the fuck are you talking about? And she's like, yeah, my friend Luke. And I was like, who's Luke? He has an extra ticket. I was like, wait, what time is the get? Can I come? Can I fly five hours and get there in time? She's like, no, and I'm not going to go either. I was like, well, did anyone take the ticket? She's like, I don't think so. And then it ended up being like one of the greatest football games ever played, not just like in the history of the Seattle Seahawks, but potentially in the entire NFC, Lindy Jesus Christ. I think about it all the time. Well, well, actually, do you know, do you know? And for the real heads, this will be a funny update. Do you know who did take one of the tickets? Daniel Savage. Oh, did you really? Yup. Wow, that's amazing. It was literally like the, I think Alaska Airlines had this box. And I think that they, I think I was for the people that worked in their marketing department at the time. And I remain a very small microcelebrity, getting more micro as the years go on. They were like, we need to try to get some local Seattle heat in our fancy box. We'll ask Luke, but we'll also like kind of let him know that we really need him to invite some people that are more famous than him. So I reached out to Lindy Ken Jen, who came Dan Savage. I'm trying to remember who else, but it was a, it was a motley crew in that box. Let me check my messages. I can't remember. From 2014. So you didn't invite me because you wanted to spend time with me as your friend? Nobody wants to spend time with you. I really wanted to spend time with you, but I also, I wanted to spend time with you as my friend and as a friend who would maybe tweet about it. Hashtag, add hashtag Alaska Air partners. Hashtag caught in the middle. I was just, I was just, I was, I didn't, I was trying to keep Alaska Airlines happy. I was trying to get to see the game in the box. I was at a lot going on. Was it fun? I don't, I have the vaguest memory of being asked. This game, this game. It was, it was, um, and, and, uh, text me backers, get ready to email in about how unrelatable this content is, but it was an extremely exciting end to the game that the Seahawks did win. If I remember right, we had a full life size cut out of Richard Sherman, the Seahawk, like a cardboard cut out in the box for some reason, which we then stole and walked through after the game, a totally jubilant crowd of people who were all just high fiving at the hardboard, Richard Sherman. Well, for Lindy's, so for, for Lindy's awareness, because you might not know, Richard Sherman, like I kind of single-handedly saved the game. Yeah. For the Seahawks. I vaguely remember this. Yeah. I still have his post game interview memorized. Oh yeah. You need to get into that, but don't you open your mouth? Let's hear it. Yeah, let's hear it. I want to hear it. Don't you open your mouth about the best. L-O-B. Who was, who was talking about you? Uh-oh. Crabtree. Would you try me with a sorry receiver like Crabtree? That's the result you're going to get. Anyway, I think about it all the time. I can't believe your listeners don't want more of this. Megan, have you conserved a third vertical, which is just your Richard Sherman impressions? A power user of that. Did you? You and Andrew would be my top and only subscribers. And maybe Richard Sherman. Maybe. Yeah. Luke, is this also the game where you ended up on Brock Heward's shoulders at one point or? I didn't end up on yours. That, actually that might have been the same game. There was, it was a very tense season and there's a, a kind of a local Seattle sports guy, Brock Heward. He was like a quarterback for the college team and now he's like a sports broadcaster. Quite handsome. We were in one of those, oh man, I got stories. One, I asked his wife out in college when I didn't know that they were engaged. I sent her like she was in my geology, geology class at the U-Dub and I had a large crush on her. And I wouldn't probably do this now, but like the professor, it was called Rocks for Jocks and the professor sent out an email, but didn't know about BC, like you didn't know how to do that. Like he sent an email to the whole class that had every single person's email address on it. Sure. And I found her email address and I sent her a message respectfully just said, hey, you know, I'm, and she was a basketball player for the U-Dub too. And I was sort of like, Hey, you know, I, I, I think you're swell. If you ever want to get a cup of coffee, let me know. Total crickets. And then like a week later, I read in the U-Dub daily, like she and Brock Huard were engaged and because he was also in the class, which I didn't think was related to that her being there. But anyway, they got married. They have like 80 kids and they're, they're all, you know, they're living their life in Issaquah, but no, I think in Arizona now, by the way, I think they went to live free somewhere. Yes. Sure. But we, after one of these really exciting football games from that season that we're talking about, Brock and I were hugging and spinning in like a dervish. We were so excited to get into the game. His wedding ring flew off in the water box. It went right into Dan Savage's mouth. It could not, if I remember right, it could not be located for, I think maybe a while, maybe that night, and he had to go home to this gal who I had once tried to ask on a date and explained. When you made your move, he had lost exactly. Checkmate. He had to try to explain to her why he didn't have his wedding ring because he had been spinning around like a dervish with me. Celebrate the Seahawks. Somehow his wedding ring fell off. Right. See. Exactly. Exactly. Well, anyway, that was my first memory of Luke Burbank, even though I didn't know you, but you know, that's okay. I'll take that even though, even though, um, Lindy turned down the request. I honestly surprised that I did because even though I didn't care about football, I, um, I, I like doing stuff back then. It's a fun thing. Well, if I ever get, how about this? Again, my star has really, uh, I'm like an actual star. I burned out eight years ago, but the light hasn't reached the earth yet. Nobody knows it. But, uh, if I ever get another invite, uh, Lindy and Megan and Andrew, you're on the list. This is the core group. Okay. Thank God. We made it. I've been waiting my whole life for this. Great. This is the core group. Hey, speaking of power moves, can I just say something here? And I don't know that the listeners can see this or not because you guys put this all on YouTube. Am I right about that? You still doing that? Yes. This whole thing on YouTube. We do. I don't think our little title cards are going to show up on YouTube, but I'm just looking at the power dynamics here based on the names we entered. I see that we have a Lindy West and an Andrew Walsh full names proper, I think. Megan is kind of like, I can just do one name. They know who I am. I'd be excited to the NFC championship box at this point. Luke has labeled himself Luke host. And I, I feel like that's a power move. What's going on with that? Are you the, are you in charge here? I don't think there's any benefit to us dancing around the fact that I'm the host I think it honestly insults all of us to pretend that it's otherwise. No, you know what? I think this speaks to my deep misunderstanding of the program that we're using Riverside because Andrew was in Las Vegas a couple of weeks ago. And so I was like, I was, I was hosting the show, meaning also I was from a technical standpoint. And I think where it wanted me to put my name in, I thought was the part where I let it know that I'm supposed to be the person recording it. So I changed my name Luke host to Luke host unintentionally, but actually I kind of has a nice ring to it. I like it. You know what it reminds me of as we were chatting after Livewire and we were like, Oh, cause we had kind of talked about maybe trying to get together in person to record something. And Luke was like, Andrew can't do it. He's got something at four and it made me laugh and laugh. And then I was like, well, I've been wondering like who is the Luke and who is the Andrew of each and it just fell into place. So obviously after Luke said this, cause like Luke and Lindy just want to record all the time, never not recording. Well, Megan and Andrew have something at four. Andrew does not want to record in my opinion, but you had something going on that day, Andrew, that I think meant we needed to either record in the morning or not do it. It just made me laugh. We will not do it. I mean, I'm sorry if I'm bringing up. No, I have no idea what it was. No, it was just really funny because I was like, yeah, I can't do more than one thing in a day either. I'm, I'm good. I'm looking at my calendar now. It was a nap, actually. That's not true. Don't, don't, that's not fair. Because I am the napper in this relationship. Andrew is not. I've gotten more into naps. If we want to talk about this for a little bit, cause I'd like to know your reaction to this. I, so I, I'm more of a sleep in late person than a nap in the middle of the day. But I've been, I've been trying to incorporate both into my life lately. And for naps, I have a rule, which is I'm allowed to nap if I don't turn onto my side. If I only sleep on my back and because I'm a side sleeper when I really get into my sleep, you know, and so I'm like, if I just stay on my back, then it's a nap. But if I go to turn into fetal position, then I've gone too far and I've just got to sleep through the night. I actually know exactly what you mean. It's like it, you got to keep it casual. Like if, if you're on your back or even like three quarters sitting up, you have plausible deniability that this was an accident. Yes. That's on my couch. The rule is I, I can't be fully reclined if I'm leaning back. And the other problem is I put this powder in my hair so that my hair looks less thin, it's called topic, but it's supposed to stick to your hair follicles with static cling, but a lot of it still comes off. And my couch cushion was getting covered at it. So I don't have like a special blanket that I keep on this one couch cushion, but it's the, it's the one for your back. And I, I sit up kind of, but then I go to sleep, but it feels like you're both saying that if I'm not fully reclined, it's not, I'm not really sleeping like a full nap and that seems to be like less lazy of me or something. Yeah. Sometimes I will like, uh, leave on a particularly uncomfortable item of clothing. So, cause if I take it off, like, you know, remove a bra or like a pair of jeans, something that would make my nap way more comfortable than I, I'm, it's too much like going to bed. I'm committing too hard. And, and I'll actually get in my head about it to the point where I will nap better in the uncomfortable item than if I took it off. Cause if I took it off, I started to feel guilty and I can't fall asleep. Is napping and shoes totally off the table for you? Are you a shoes off house? Not at hotels. It's on the table at hotels. I just did it recently. It would have to be not, it would have to be only if it was in public, like on a plane or in a, in a waiting room of some kind, not if I'm in my own space. No. I've napped in shoes. That's, that's another way that I'm keeping it cash with the nap. Just leave the shoes. If I was at someone else's house and they were like, I have to go do an hour long phone meeting or something and they were a shoes on house. Yeah. Okay. I might, I might lean myself over on the couch with my shoes still on, not, I would never put them on the couch, but like my feet still on the floor, but then my body kind of diagonally. Yeah, I can see that. And I would like it. And I, I like the thought of it. I went to a party recently, Andrew. I meant to tell you about this and I rolled up and for some reason I had decided. I sort of bought these boots that I've been wearing lately that are pretty involved to lace up. I'm trying to mix it up from just my normal, like white sneakers look. And I got to this get together and I, to my horror, I hadn't even opened the door. This was at some house. I don't know particularly well. I looked through the little glass of the door and the first three people I saw did not have their shoes on. And this was very far from where I live. This was hours from where I live. And I just was like, I froze and I thought, like, is it, did anybody make me? Could I duck down and get out of here? And then I opened the door and realized some people had taken their shoes off out of courtesy and at least one person hadn't. And that was all I needed was to have one other person validating my decision. And so I was, I choose, I choose dawned it. Yeah. We talk about this a lot on the show and I, I'm not saying that I'm right about this or that I have any kind of justice to stand on. But like I have, I'm old now. I'm like 49 and like increasingly sort of set in my ways and cranky and, and other things that people love about me and find attractive. And one of the things that I say now is like, if you live in a shoes off house where you throw shoes off parties, like I don't want to say that you're wrong to do that in any way. Of course you're not. But I am going to straight up say, no, I don't go to shoes off parties anymore. Like I'm just going to be honest about it. Like I don't like socializing with my shoes off, you know, unless it was some sort of a beach blank at bingo kind of situation, which I don't see myself with those either. It's happening constantly. Right. Exactly. I did get your e-vite. Somebody raised a net funicello from the dead. But like, I just feel like, well, listen, it might not make you like me anymore, but I'm just going to, I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to say I'm busy. I have something at four. I'm just going to say, you know, I'm not really comfortable in that situation. Are people putting that on invites? No, you have to know the people. You got to know. Oh, so you have to. At any moment. You have to visit their house under the cover of night. Weeks before the event. And just do a little recon. Yeah, I see they're wearing shoes. It's safe. Speaking of being grumpy, can I can I share a tidying? We don't have our song, but Lindy and I have it tidings. And minds are real. Can we get Rooney up in here? Can we like evoke the spirit of Rooney? Yeah, not Sally. Yeah, I actually have some audio for that. If you'd like, you just give me one second. I would. It might not be yours. We do a segment on my other podcast, which is about TV commercials. It's called After These Messages. You let Andrew have other podcasts. This this thing, Luke host in Riverside is really just entitled only. It comes with no actual power over Andrew. So here's the sorry for all the cross promotion here. But we do a little segment on After These Messages, where I complain about things we call it Andy's Corner. And now a few minutes with Andy. Oh, man, look at my life. I consider myself to be an absolutely dead center, normal, average America. My opinion that a great many women have one thing in common. They spend too much time and money fooling around with their hair. I don't use foul language and I don't like to hear anyone else use it either. It's a fancy bottle. I bet that bottle costs more than the water. When does a rainforest lose its virginity anyway? All right, you're in the clear. Oh, why did he say that? Going off of a virgin rainforest. Now I regret tying myself to the fate of Rooney. But I can't just say one thing, by the way, I feel like Andy Rooney died. Parentheses question mark. And then they I feel like they never. Named a new national curmudgeon like they never like who is that kid? I want to be that. Who's going to be the curmudgeon laureate of the United States now that he's been dead for question mark? Is he dead? He is dead. OK, he is dead. I I'd certainly not me. But what what I what I have done weirdly as a job thing is done these commentaries for CBS Sunday morning, which is kind of the like, you know, the the beginning part of that like day of like CBS programming. Yes. And what I found out really fast from doing these commentaries and was that you become Andy Rooney so fast because what is an interesting take? It's not just like, hey, I had this the other day. It was really great. Yeah. You know what I mean? The only interesting take is like what what this is really grinding my gears or like I did one about you want to hear more Rooney than Rooney. I just this is when Twitch had been sold for like a billion dollars or something. I mean, this is years and years ago. I think it's been sold maybe to Facebook or Metta or somebody. And I was like, I was my mind was blown because I'd never been on Twitch. I didn't understand how big of a thing it was really going to be. I just knew it was a place you could like watch other people play video games. And a actual line in my commentary was like, that's like watching someone else's paint dry. Can I say I know about this because when I was in Wisconsin for the holidays, my mother-in-law and I watched your CBS this morning about bagging your own groceries at the grocery store. I hate that too. Isn't that Rooney though? I'm like, if they're going to make us work there, we should get a discount. Oh, I have the opposite. It's so true though. I know you're going towards something. My mother-in-law laughed and laughed. Oh, she loved that. But I am the opposite. I pushed the baggers away. I tried to do it as politely as possible, but I always just say, no, you know, I got it. And if they're like, no, I'd like to help. I'm like, I got a system. I just have a system. Andrew might be one of the world's great shopping, you know, grocery shopping bag fillers. I've gotten compliments. It's the highest compliment you can get from the cashier. Yes. Nice. I will say I don't like doing it and I'm not good at the bag filling necessarily, but I do have this like teacher's pet energy where because people are always bad at doing the self-checkout. They're always breaking the machine and standing there motionless for hours on end, hovering over a butt like. And I do every time I do it, I'm like, oh, look at me. Like I like I'm showing off like someone's going to be like, wow, she really knows how to work that machine. Don't worry about me, Wendy. I have the POU number for bananas memorized. Yes. 4011. OK, but here's my, but here's my real one. OK, so I had to go to downtown Washington on Sunday for an appointment, a salon appointment to get my mustache waxed. OK, just in full transparency. I drive down there thinking this is not going to be a problem. It's Sunday. OK, I'll just park somewhere on the street. And if not, I'll park in a parking garage. Perhaps you've heard of this invention. It's a garage where you can park your car. You know what I mean? So I drive down there, no street parking. I'm like, fine, backup plan. I'm going to park this car in the parking garage. Also, I'm sorry that I drove. I should have just taken the train, but I didn't feel like doing that. Anyways, so, but all the parking garages are closed because none of the business boys needed to go to Washington, DC on Sunday because it's a weekend and they don't work on weekends, you know? So only like three parking garages in the whole city were open. And I'm like, fine, I'll just go into one of them. So I drive into one. It wasn't a parking garage. It was the budget rent a car returned. So I said, oh, no, this isn't a parking garage at all. Let me back up out of here. Well, famously an easy thing to do. A rental car. Yes. Where all of the cars are triple parked. And there are never weird spike teeth. Right. No, it was concrete. It was amazing. And all the budget guys got to watch me do this. Where I was like, have a good Sunday. And I drove off and I'm like, fine, whatever. So I like, I'll go around the block and go to the other one that I saw. But of course, every other street is one way. I had to go like seven blocks and then I turned back around and I drive back down the street. I'm like, okay, I'm locked in. I'm going to go into the parking garage. I go to the second one and it just doesn't work. It's not given out tickets. Everybody's calling the pressing the phone button for assistance. And the person's just going, no, no. And so we all are leaving. So I'm like, fine, I'll go around the block again. Again, it's a whole situation because of the one way street situation. So then I'm like, okay, I think I saw another one. I'm going to try to go into that one. And I remember there was a sign that said just drive in. And I thought that was weird because what else would you do? What do you mean? What else would you do? What do you mean? Just drive in. What was my, what was the alternative? What's what, what are they doing at the other parking garages? If not just driving in, but whatever. It's fine. At least I know it's open. So I go around the block and I go in, I just drive in. And as I drive in the parking attendant runs out and he's waving his hands like, Hey, hey, hey. And I was like, huh, there's, by the way, there's no game on demand. Abortion. Yeah. I was like, what's happening? Um, and then he's like, because there's no gate, there's no ticket to be seen. Okay. Just drive in, they say. So I just drove in, he didn't like that. And he's waving his arms dramatically on the ramp like, ma'am. And I was like, Oh my God, what the fuck. So I rolled down my window and I'm like, yes. And he's like, did you want to park here? And I said, yeah, I did. And he's like, okay, well, you have to pay with your phone. And I said, great. And I look up and I see there's signs everywhere with the QR code. I'm like, fine. I'm a veteran of the QR wards code wars, QR code wars. They call them. You may now board the airplane first. I got the joke off anyways. So I'm like, I'll just scan the fucking QR code. That's what the signs are here for. No, no, Nespa. Okay. And I'm like, he's like, yeah, you got to pay on your phone. I was like, okay. And I'm like, go to drive. And he's like, you have to give me your phone number. I was like, okay. So I give him my phone number because I'm going to text you the link. And then you got to click the link and then you have to make an account. And he's, and he's like standing right next to my car with his little iPad texting me the link. And then I got to click the link and I'm making a whole account. I have to enter in my debit card. He's like, he's like, and then I say, and as I'm saying it, I could feel myself morphing like the Michael Jackson black and white video into Andy Rooney. And I say to him, seems like we should have just kept the ticket system. And he says nothing. He doesn't acknowledge my bitch ass at all. And I finally set up the thing and I was like, am I good? He's like, yeah, you're good. I go in. I could have done all of that from the QR code. I didn't need to be involved with him at all. And I just was sitting there thinking, in what way is that an improvement over the gate and the ticket system? This was the worst of both worlds because now I got to do the QR code thing. But with an assistant, like with a helper while he stands by my car for an extra seven minutes, now the parking garage has to pay this guy for doing for being a human QR code, just get bring back the gate and the ticket. What the fuck? Here's the worst part. I go and I drive down and there's no parking. All of the spots are blocked off. So I drive all the way down to P three and I'm thinking big whoop. I'll just take the elevator up. There is no elevator. What garage? I had to walk walk up four flights of stairs into some random lobby and walk out. And as the door was closing behind me, I'm thinking, I hope I never get in that car back. I just thought I hope I can get back in that lobby because it's like a business lobby to a corporate building. I go to my appointment, I come back, they don't let me back in the lobby. They don't let me back into the lobby at all. The guy just looks at me like, hello, may I help you? And I was like, I guess lady did come through her earlier with a mustache. Totally different. Do you know her? So I had to walk down the ramp exposed to got my car. And then it says, just drive out. We'll just charge you just drive out. So I just drove out. I'm waiting for, by the way, for this man to chase me out to the road. Demand that I just drive out with him involved, but he didn't. Then I get my receipt and for for less than 30 minutes of parking in this hellhole of a parking garage, $13. Geez, I just would like to complain about that. Bring back the gate and the ticket or let me use the QR code without having to interact with other human beings. Pick one. I can't believe that guy really worked for the parking garage. Yeah, I know. The story was going was this was a scam. Or he just wanted your number. Hello. Well, he was wearing a uniform and apparently had the key to the parking garage. He opened it. Oh, I don't know. I thought you were just driving in like that used to be the hustle in like Seattle too, right at those like diamond parking lots and stuff. You'd have a lot of folks that would kind of run up to you. They'd get a little blue jacket and then they'd come up and collect your money when you were parking and they didn't work there. Oh, I've never heard of that. I found to be kind of a kind of a really smart and kind of like a charming old school scam like that. Honestly, yeah, I kind of was into it. If I got got by that, I'd be like, nice. Right. Yeah, that's good. That's good, especially if they put a little work into it and made a whole backstory and they were like, uh, uh, good morning, Antonio from the parking company, the Amante parking garage. Exactly. I mean, who's going to pay for the uniforms? If not us rubes, you know what I mean? So anyway, so I just wanted to complain about that because I've been mad about it for three days. Your upper lip looks flawless, though. I just want to tell everyone who's listening to this as an audio only product. So at least it was worth it. It was Megan. I want to say I love your new. I love this pitch for you to be the new Andy Rooney. Thank you. America. Mandy Rooney, maybe. And I and it occurred to me while you were talking that I think there's a role for me because, you know, who else has not been replaced is is Willard Scott. Who's celebrating the old people? Oh, my God, that's so true. Every now and again only will a representative of Smuckers appear on the Today Show set to be like, here's an old guy. We used to get that every day. I was what happened? I was getting updates on I knew every old person in this country. Yes, when I when I was a kid, yes, I could name them all like they were like Pokemons now. I have no clue what they're getting up to. I know what happened to my 97 year old Bulbasaur. Andrew, you have gotten into or at least around the Thanksgiving, you were playing old Macy's parades and they had Willard Scott in them still, right? Yeah, that's one of my things. I didn't really grow up watching the parades that much. So it's not even that like the parade itself isn't a nostalgia hit for me. But the commercials certainly are. You know, I'm kind of obsessed with commercials and also just anything that that makes me feel like a safe little boy again. And so so on. So instead of watching, and first of all, I also like to sleep late. I'm not catching any of the actual live Thanksgiving Day parades. But I will dial up on YouTube. They have the full things like 90 minutes, two hours or whatever. Just choose one from like the 80s and then watch all of the tie ins for the toys. The toy commercials with the floats, the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, the masters of the universe type of stuff. It's wonderful. Andrew, I didn't realize you were a commercial enthusiast. Have I ever told you about my that I'm advertising royalty? No, it's true. What? It's true. My father was an ad copywriter and he wrote, I hope that this is going to ring a bell with you. He wrote those Bartles and James commercials with the two old guys where one of them talks and one of them doesn't talk. Hell, yes, that was your dad. Yeah, she's got a life size cut out of the B and J guys. Frayn Ed, was it like McCann, Erickson or where was he at in Seattle? No, it was it was in LA. We lived in LA when I was little at a daily in associates. Was the age of that's a big national campaign. I was like surprised that that was being handled at a little old Seattle. That's no, no. And although he did. Yeah, you go. No, you go ahead, please. Oh, he did do some. So we lived in LA for me when I was four to eight. So before that, he did local stuff in Seattle. I believe he came up with the slogan for Washington Mutual, a friend of the family. Oh, good. And big time one. He did also dress up as the creature from the Black Lagoon and play the piano on a float in Elliott Bay to advert to advertise Ivers. That's really good. Can I think clam? Did he what? Did he did he write keep clam? It's possible. It was the Ivers, the big Ivers. He clam is really good. I've never heard him brag about that. So I don't know for sure. And now he gone. But I can ask my mom. My favorite Paul West local hit is the Bob Buyer's Volvo jingle, which is just Bob Buyer's Volvo. And just the way he sings, it's very jazzy. Because he was a copywriter, but he was also a voice talent and he would write. He was a musician, so he would write jingles. He would record the jingle and he would do the radio ad. So was that super cool for you as a kidland to hear, you know, kind of, you know, around Seattle, I would be so stoked about. I just wanted my dad to get in the back page of SignMaker magazine. And it didn't happen. Like I would have been so geeked if I were you. It was really cool and nobody cared. But I was like, hey, I was like, you know, on when you're listening to Cube 93 and then all of a sudden there's a commercial that tells you to recycle. And then a guy goes, recycling. It's easy to do. That's my dad. I never was like, I don't care. Anybody familiar with tradition to depend on, depend on Yonker Nissan? Yonker Nissan. Remind me this because I get these things conflated. I definitely remember the old guys, whether their names Ed and what on the porch? Frank, Ed and Frank Frank and Ed. But also you had Bruce Willis advertising a similar. Golden wine coolers. That was Seagrams. OK, so it was not the same brand. So your dad was competing with Bruce Willis in a certain way. OK, yeah. And he never recovered. That's why he died. Well, you know what? I'm sorry. I brought it up. You know what? He took a chunk out of Bruce Willis, too. Bruce Willis is having a rough go of it as well. So, you know, sure it is. Those commercials, we were really obsessed in the early days of TBTL with the era where we were letting Bruce Willis's band just run amok. Oh, my God, we were just treating it like it was a real thing. And everyone was acting like it was not only normal, but great. Yes. Are you insane? Oh, look, oh, great news, everyone. Bruce Willis is here with his harmonica and then the crowd would go. Yeah. Yeah, so I was so hoping Bruce Willis would show up with his harmonica and do whatever the fuck it is he does with it. It was so weird. Listen, that's all illness. I'm sorry to both as a man cut you off and correct you, but I believe that was Bruno, who was playing. Don't even get me started on Bruno. Because he was it. Didn't he have a whole album that was like the life and times of Bruno? I believe it. Like that. My understanding. Oh, God, why would you say Bruno to me? I'm so unsettled at the memory of that. Oh, my God. He, I want to say, has a cover of one of the best songs ever written. Respect yourself by the staple singers and it's hideous. Wow. And I want to say that it charted. What is wrong? What was going on? Ronald Reagan was putting drugs in the water and everyone was like, let Bruno live. Let him cook. I think the reason that you're also slightly confused, Andrew, is because his products, Bartles and James and Seagrams close together. But then the commercials, the Bartles and James guys are often on their front porch, right? Or they kind of wrap around and in the Seagrams, Seagrams, Golden Wine Coolers, Bruce Willis starts out in a bar and I believe the music is flowing through him with such vigor that he ends up outside on a porch. OK, doing a whole shuffle like it's they were they were like the commercials were very visually closely except some of them were good. The ones Lindy's dad made bad. The ones that had Bruno in them. That's right. By the way, the name of the album is the return of Bruno. And on the cover, he's got his arms crossed and he's smirking like yeah, Bruno, just like you all been clamoring for. Yeah, when is Bruno going to return waiting, waiting for Bruno? Right. Fingers crossed. Yeah. And we have a show title. I don't know about you. How do we represent that? I said, Bruno, like good. Oh, put a T on the end. Put a T on the end. Wow, Lindy, who's a professional writer? Bruno. Yeah. Speaking of me being a professional writer, I have a segue into my tidings. Go on. I've written a book. Oh, yeah. I've written book number four of mine. I've written four books. Is it four? I've written five. Well, wonderful. It's five. If you count the little book the Stranger staff made. And I don't. Yeah, I've written my fourth solo book. It's called Adult Braces. It's coming out March 10th, but this is neither here nor there. I mean, it's here. It's here in that you should hear you go. It's time to click on the pre-order link. Absolutely. Pre-orders, very important for authors to get on lists that cause other people to buy our books, apparently. Please pre-order my book. It's called Adult Braces. Thank you. But in the lead up to the book coming out, I have to do something called Learn How to Be an Influencer so that I can because that's the only way you can get the information to the people, especially to the young people. OK, should have come to that Seahawks game with me. Dude, I regret it every day. I didn't remember about it at all. But now that I've been reminded, I retroactively ruin the day. But I OK, so I have been making makeup tutorial videos. I've been making Get Ready With Me videos. I've been doing story time. I'm I'm doing it all. I'm about to start. I'm going to make. Oh, what? Which chapter of my book are you based on your zodiac sign? Oh, nice. I'm going. I'm getting in there and I'm doing the work. And, you know, actually, let me tell you, they're not lying. I made a trail, a book trailer, a three part book trailer. I posted the first one on Monday. Instant four thousand new followers. Which could be fake. But I was like, I don't think so. I don't think so. I was like, oh, it really they they like it when you make the content. Yeah, it rewards you. So now I'm hooked on the attention. And one of the things I'm going to one of the upcoming videos I'm going to make. And here's where my tidying comes in. And that's also slightly a game. I'm going to do fantasy casting for the adult braces movie slash TV show. So I I need help deciding who's playing me. And I was and I think we could do since it's fantasy, it could be anyone alive or dead. And also, we could since it's fantasy, we could pretend the three of you are in here in the book. You're not. But we could pretend you are. I got to do to get in one of your books. Well, you could marry me and then decide you want to be polyamorous. Your thoughts. I floated that. That's what I was asking you to the NFC championship game for. Damn it. OK, no, but if you guys want to. So here's what I was thinking for myself. I just I need help. I need this to be I need this to go viral. I was thinking Margot Robbie in a fat suit for me. Yeah. Yeah, or CGI or CGI or CGI or Chris Farley. We could do that would be that would be non-traditional casting. Yep. Yeah. Any idea anyone have any other ideas? I could do maybe like the fairy godmother from Disney Cinderella. You might want to think about somebody who's just has a lot of buzz right now. Oh, and one person is that girl Odessa Azean, who is everywhere. I can't name a single thing she's in, but she's on in all of my bloids. You know, you know, a single thing that her mom was. I know a single thing her mom was in. But I then she like changed her name to be sneaky. So that no one would know she's a dad's last name. Well, but it's like a combo because the A is from Adwan from Pamela. Is that the girl who she has the curly hair? And everyone's like she's doing blackface kind of. Yes, even though I think she's just Mediterranean. Yeah, because I've been wondering who that is. I can't already supreme. Yeah. Oh, I haven't seen it. And her mom is Bobby Hill. Yeah. Her mom is the voice of Bobby Hill, of course, Pamela Adlon, the legend. Well, OK, so maybe how about, do you know who Brittany Brochie is? Yeah, that's a good one. That's a good one. Also, she's really funny. She's really funny. I mean, a very flattering to me to be compared. What about Zendaya? Zendaya is she available? What about Timmy Chalamet? Oh, he can do it method acting. Meryl Streep, one of the best. He's got to move to the Olympic peninsula for two years. OK, yeah. Inhabit the role of Lindy West. OK, how about this? Meryl Streep as Lindy, Martin Short as a hum. Love it. Love it. And for Megan, can we cast Teyana Taylor? We don't have anything in common. I just am obsessed with her. She's so beautiful. Have you seen the Teyana Taylor, my sweet 16, though? And how do you feel about that? I've seen clips. That's wild. What a character arc she's had. She must have been I would have never thought first. I didn't know anything about her sort of growing up years before she was acting and everything, but like, yeah, the fact that she clearly grew up in a family that had the means to do like over the top sweet 16. And then I'm sure this is MTV making her act extra demanding. That's the premise of the show. But then that person who is kind of like really has very specific ideas about their super sweet 16 ends up being a phenomenal actor. That's the part that's shocking to me. She's had such a character arc to go from. I mean, I've never heard of such a thing for someone to go. I mean, I guess in a sense, the first person who came to mind was like, Jennifer Lawrence was on not Larry the Cable Guy, but one of the other rednecks. Right. Sio Vaughn was on Road Rural. Yeah. The gauntlet. Yes. And Sean Duffy was on the Road Rural regular. But anyways, like Jennifer Lawrence went from one of the rednecks sitcoms to winning an Oscar. So like that's kind of weird too. You never know what people get up to. You know, and apparently, by the way, apparently Brie Larson was a pop star. And now she's a respected actress. It's so strange what they want us to forget about their pasts. Are you, are you filming all of your your your influencer videos, posts, whatever, either sitting in your car or eating a bag of something? Because this is to be a popular in my feed. Yeah. Yeah. I'm also doing a lot. Yeah, I sit in my car. I get like a McDonald's cheeseburger. Nice. I take a bite. I go, wait, wait. Why is this actually? Why is this low key fire? That's not as to what I do. Oh, is grimace available to play you? Oh, good. Get grimace. OK. And I want the hamburger to play me. I'm OK. Wait. Who was I a minute ago? I'm Meryl Streep in the grimace suit. Yes. A Homs Martin short. Zendaya is Roya. Yes. Megan is Teyana Taylor in the hamburger outfit. Exactly. Yes. Luke, I guess I'm I'm hearing Jennifer Lawrence. Sure. I love it. Drew is Timmy Chalamet. Yeah. Well, that's that solved. It's not the first time I've heard that. That's and that's the cast of Timble of the Dog, Colin, the movie. Colin, a preorder adult braces everywhere you get your books. Absolutely. I they say, don't judge a book by the cover, but I haven't had a chance to read the book, but I have seen the cover and it is a phenomenal cover and it makes you want to read the book. It's a really good cover. Really, really good. Possibly the best book cover ever made, I think is what the artist who did that. I'm hearing her name is Sarah Deck, D E C K and she is incredible. I didn't meet her or talk to her, but I yeah, they my publisher sent me a couple of options and I was like, oh, I like her. And and then just and then it's also the the portrait of me is based on a photograph of me that Jenny Jimenez took, who is my friend, who also photographed Megan's wedding and my wedding. She sure did. Yeah. Oh, I saw that awesome photo. And it's in a oh, sorry, go ahead. I was just gonna say, I won Jenny Jimenez in an in a charity auction. She took all my pictures. Yeah. And then she took a bunch of my other friends pictures too. So I'm very happy to have met her. Those ones that you published in your newsletter were amazing. Your guys's newsletter is so good. Obviously. Well, it was your idea. It was your idea. It was TPTL's idea. You were you guys were like, oh, we do this. You guys should do this too. And we're like, OK, we'll just copy you guys. And we got a pledge drive. Yeah. But how was I supposed to know you could write so well? And don't copy us to the degree that no one who has Gmail can get your newsletter anymore because that's the current status of the TPTL. So only five percent of the American public can currently receive it. Oh, no. Three newsletters ago, I accidentally included a link that was that was fine. But for some reason was flagged by the Internet police. And now I am flagged by the Internet police, at least on the Gmail side of things. And every time I send out a newsletter, it's going directly to people's spam folders. And not just that, it is saying that like you cannot trust this person. This sender literally says this sender is has attempted to grab people's personal information, which is absolutely untrue. If you have an iPhone, which I don't, but I have friends who do, showed me what it looks like next to my name is a logo with a little fishing hook. Devastating. Yeah. So I'm not going to do it anymore. I'm going to your Tiana Taylor dressed up as the hamburger. Burgles and personal data. You're the Italian trying to steal my money at the Diamante parking lot. Oh, I thought that was your Irish accent. I don't know what you guys were doing. Oh, oh, oh, girl. No. No. That was that was Andrew. Was that your tidings? Sure, I guess. That you're the Internet's number one. Yeah, nobody trusts me. I'm actually excited. Are you are you trying to get into what you've brought to the table? Luke, because we need to talk about this. I've been having this conversation with you in my head for two days. Well, here's the question. I don't know what Megan and Lindy's time timeline is. It's a different time back there in Washington District of Columbia. So we have a few different directions we can go and I want to just I want to give give everyone options. One is a hat talk because there's been a couple of different. I worry that this one because there's audio, there's and I will all have thoughts. There's a lot to say about that. That's the long version. The short version is we could talk about the fact that people are doing snake yoga in Portland. I just read about that. I just read about that. And the third option is that we could all just call it a day. No, I'd like to I'd love to keep chatting. I have a thought about Rob Lowe's hat interview. But but it sounds like but I don't know. I feel like maybe snake yoga is more spiritually connected to our show. I've been I've been wearing a hat. OK, you know what? We're talking in a little segment that we like to call hats entertainment. Once again, raising the question, will an instrumental version of the Judy Garland song That's Entertainment get us pulled down in parts of Eastern Europe? Yes. Does it contain enough of the DNA of the real song to get us in trouble? And further but Smirch Andrew's good name. So so for for many years, Andrew and I have been referencing maybe not many years, but for kind of a good while, we've been referencing this photo of Rob Lowe at an NFL game where he's wearing a hat that just says NFL. It's the best. It's just so beautiful. And it's so kind of scans with the way that I am. I did once at the Alaska Airlines Lounge next to Rob Lowe and his wife. They seemed very nice and normal. I didn't talk to them or bother them. But I will just admit to not having a strong sense of like what Rob Lowe's personality is like outside of him doing the Atkins, the commercials for like Atkins shakes and stuff, which kind of doesn't make me think he has a good personality. It kind of makes me think he's just like a kind of a like a weird creation of trying to stay skinny and like have taut skin or whatever. Like I have all these preconceived ideas about Rob Lowe and they were confirmed when I saw him wearing a hat that said NFL at a game. And like who's wearing a hat that just says NFL and that has become memeified now. You know, to represent like a person who is not very committed to anything, you know, who has no backbone and who doesn't have any real rooting interest is just there. I'm going to I'm not going to tell the listeners that Lindy just pointed herself. I have a backbone, my friend. I do, but I'm noncommittal and I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings. Yeah, that is true. Well, Rob Lowe was on Rich Eisen's show and was like asked by this rich. Rich Eisen's show I really like actually, like it's one of the last bastions of kind of, I don't know, when sports, when you didn't have to yell as much when it was like that the takes were not quite as hot, which was fine for me. The takes are too spicy. I have a very sensitive mouth area that can't take the spiciest of takes. Yep. So Rich Eisen was asking him like about this hat situation, this NFL hat. And this was Rob Lowe's. Let me get a little volume going here. This was Rob Lowe's answer. What is the story behind that hat? The hat was they gave me a choice of hats to wear. I was at the game so they could it was a Fox game. Yes, sir. I had a show premiering on Fox. So they were like, would you go for promotion? We'll cut to you in the audience. OK. And so they're like, here's a hat. And they were all like these loud half one team on one side and half the other team on the other and like soup. This, by the way, was when Rob Lowe really started to win me over. Yes, me too. Me too. I can't wait to talk about this. You know that Megan, that era of those like crazy hats, kind of like maybe I don't know late nineties or something. Yeah, I he started on me over because I he's going to say the best part in a second. But like to me, like what you just described about this NFL hat is like somebody who's like doesn't really believe in anything. And it kind of gives a vibe of I guess I just hope everyone has a nice time. But in my opinion, wearing a hat with two teams mashed up is worse. That's that guy more than if you just wore the NFL hat. That would have been disgusting. And he would have been memified in some other more rotten way. So I would just like to foreshadow that I think he made the right call. Yeah, we're going to play the rest of the audio. We are. OK, great. But this is where I because I just started to think like I was like you, Luke, where I was like, I the main thing I know about Rob Lowe's personality is that he wore the NFL hat. And I thought and I thought he did that because that was the type of person that he is. You know what I mean? So yeah, I think it confirmed all of our priors on who we thought. Yeah, exactly. You know, here's more of a busy and like the special game hats are bad. Yeah. And then there's this one simple NFL hat, which I'd never seen before. I'd never seen that hat before. I'd never seen that hat before. Usually I don't normally normally when you see something like that. It's a ref right in its white and it's white. And I'm like, oh, that looks like a I'm definitely going to wear that simple thing. I'm straight and and people it's become a meme of someone who is agnostic to everything. If you're just like, hey, go teens. Yeah. Go teams. What game was that, by the way? And this is another thing, too. Rob Lowe remembers what the game was, which is kind of like again, it also means he he was conscious of what was happening around him. You know, like not just like, I don't know, was two teams was like, he knows who the teams were and stuff. And then later, Rich Eisen asked if like if he can have the hat and and Rob Lowe is like, no, I'm giving to the Smithsonian. Like, this is really, really forcing me to rethink my thoughts about Rob Lowe. He does seem like the kind of guy who might have that Mary Lou Henner thing where he like remembers everything that's ever happened to him. Yeah, that came up on TV till like two weeks ago. Really? I think about it all the time. Well, I think I think what's interesting about it is like one of the reasons I think the meme was so popular and so successful as a meme is that he really seemed like the kind of guy who doesn't really give a shit about football. He's there because somebody asked him to be there and he wore an NFL hat. And he's standing there kind of almost robotic in the photo. And it's just a still photo. So who knows how animated he was before or after somebody took that screen grab. But then for him to be like, I remember exactly who was there. I was having a great time. It was like, I think it was like the 49ers and somebody else. It was like a champ, probably a playoff game. And he like remembers it. He's like, I was having a great time. I don't want to wear an ugly hat. And I'm like, who is this person? Like, I thought that you did that because you are agnostic about everything. Go teams. I thought that. And he also, I mean, think about his character on Parks and Rec. I don't know if you all watch out of Parks and Rec, but it's like comedically, he's very much leaned into the, I think, the idea of how who we all think he is, and it's wild to me to think that Rob Lowe may have been at least a little bit in on the joke. That really blew my mind. And then at the end, when Rich Eisen asked for the hat and he was like, what? No, this is like my greatest contribution to society is this hat meme. So funny. I want to get, I'm going to give it to the Smithsonian. And then he's like offers to lend it like like a museum. He'll lend it to Rich Eisen and Rich Eisen wants to put it next to the cell phones from Wall Street or whatever. And I was like, don't disrespect the hat like that. And then also there's like this interesting part where Rich Eisen was like, will you sign it? And he's like, well, I don't, I mean, can I, he's like, I'll sign the inside, but I don't want it to be on the outside. That would ruin the hat. And he's going to ruin the look. I would like ruin the whole point of the hat, which is that it's nothing. That is not busy. Exactly. I can't think of a. So I hadn't had the chance to talk to anybody about this, but all three of us. And Lindy, I don't know how are you in this as well? You were familiar with the whole thing. The NBA gave her that hat that says basketball. But I hope this is so much more appropriate than I even realized. Yeah. I donned the blank hat that we got. It was supposed to say TV TL on it, but I got a blank one. So I love that. Oh, now everyone is wearing a hat. But it's I can't think of a better story or another example of such internet redemption like that thing was so omnipresent. It became the first thing as one of you already said, the first thing I thought of when I thought of Rob Lowe and I found this 90 second clip so damn relatable. Immediately we've all had this. I don't know how much how far this will range as it makes the rounds. What are you doing up there? What do you got? I went and got my little hat. Is that a tiny is it a tiny husky hat or a tiny Washington, DC hat? I would like to tell you the unfortunate tale, which is well, first of all, it is a little hat that you put your ice cream in. Yeah. You get your little Sunday in it at the at the game. And I live in Washington. So occasionally I go to nationals games. Woo. We lost the hat. But but the hat fell and and I root for them if I have to. But they're a National League team. So usually there's no crossover between the Mariners and the nationals. So I will occasionally support the Nets and I got this little ice cream Sunday tiny batting helmet. And so that's the hat I'm wearing. Was it ice cream or was it dipping dots in there? It was absolutely ice cream. We you know, we don't mess around with the God intended it. Yeah, exactly. Sorry to interrupt. So the other story in hat news today is or as it's called sometimes hats entertainment involves Billy Bob Thornton and his particularly unique look. And we on this show have really we really disliked Billy Bob Thornton and his work for years and years ever since he yelled at that one Canadian radio host. John Dimashie, which he got canceled. Yeah, I believe those were unrelated events. Well, we don't know. Two people can be bad. Billy Bob had an axe to grind. But like, yeah, right? Maybe he knew something. But like, you know, that the interview went viral where like Billy Bob Thornton wanted to just talk about his band. I believe they're called the Boxmasters. Oh, Jesus. And like not talk about his acting career. And this guy interviewing him on the CBC made the mistake of in a very if I remember right pretty delicate way trying to like, you know, mention the fact that like this guy who's in here with this band that nobody's heard of is also turns out a person who won an Oscar for acting or whatever he went off on him. And that was like that didn't that didn't win him any points with us. And then also just his kind of so, you know, it's again, it's like you start off with this particular idea of this person being totally humorless about themselves and just kind of like somebody I'm not a huge fan of necessarily. And then you see the get up that he wears oftentimes in public, like this hat situation where he's got like a kind of a it'll be like a beanie sometimes or like a tighter, you know, not like a do rag, but like something kind of smaller and more low profile. And then I'll have this big like felt hat kind of sitting like sort of jauntily on top of it. And he's got these loops in his ears. This is like a whole situation. So every time I see that, it just makes me I mean, this was before he started starring in these really ridiculous self phone commercials that Andrew and I love to make fun of. Can I say something about that? Please. Really quick. I'm sorry. First of all, I feel like Trump won an election with the slimmest margin, like in American history, right? And as a result, all media has been redirected towards whatever the fuck that is. Like whatever the Yellowstone, the land man. Yeah. Axis of evil. Yeah. Of of the land guy in like low, slung, old pants. You know what I mean? And he's like, and by the way, this man's wearing a piece and I just feel like it's not a good one. I mean, it's not an authentic once his rug back. Hello. Like it's so inauthentic to the big sky, Montana vibe. He's trying or whatever, Texas, whatever. And he's like, where am I anyways? And it's so obnoxious and so stupid. And then, and then, you know, what happened? They got Rushmore in on it. They got they fucking Wilson, Luke Wilson to start doing them for AT&T or whatever. I was like, no, no one voted for this. No one voted for two different big sky landmen walking around kicking rocks. Talking about you'll never guess where I am. I'm at the pancake store at the gas station. I'm Luke Wilson. I'm staring at a scoreboard that I keep deep in the interior of my Texas property that tracks cell phone reliability. I've taken out binoculars to look at that. But these are the ads for vis-a-vis the hat. He's walking around looking like a Coachella influencer, except he's nine hundred and fifty years old. So the vibe is unsettling to say the least. It's a real it's a real like Captain Jack Sparrow. Yes. Well, Lindy, Norma Desmond. That's an exception. Lindy, that is like perfect segue into this actual tape. Oh, good. Here in the hats entertainment segment. Is he doing an accent? Tell me he's not doing it. He's being interviewed on CBS this morning, not to be confused with my beloved show, CBS Sunday Morning. Get into it. Even though CBS this morning did steal all of our branding, which we were very sad about, they took the sun. The sun rays. CBS Sunday Morning had good ratings. And so they CBS this morning was not having great ratings. And so they borrowed all of the like everything that indicates visually of the show on Sunday. And now they use it five days a week. That's fine. I'm not bitter about it. But he's being interviewed. He's he's promoting Landman and he's being interviewed by it's like Gail King. Nate Burleson, by the way, Pride of Seattle. Yeah, a day high. Get into it. Absolutely. I love Nate Burleson. I did think I would be one of the more famous TV people from the Metro Leagues. But that is not how that has worked out. Not this time, buddy. No, no, not this lifetime. Not in this part of the multiverse. Nate Burleson's. But and then a guy named Vladimir Duthier, I think is his. I was wondering what happened to Vlad. Oh, he's a he's still in the mix. He's a he's a he's a CBS this morning guy now. Love him. So like they're interviewing Billy Bob Thornton about Landman. And this is the thing, Linda, you're referencing pirates. This is all at the very beginning of this. I was like, don't do this to me, Billy Bob Thornton. Don't actually have a sense of humor about yourself, you son of a bitch. He's talking about how much he likes being in Landman. OK, I'm so sorry to interrupt. The show is actually called Landman. Are you doing a bit? No, it's called Landman. It's God. Are you not inundated with ads for Landman? Literally the most popular show in on television in America. Is it part of the extended Yellowstone? OK, it's a Taylor Sheridan production. I let all of that exit my brain hole as well. You should as well. You should. It. Yes, so he's on their time about Landman and he's talking about the like how he he likes being in the show because he gets to just be himself. And he starts to say they don't have me, you know, they don't like make me dress up in some pirate suit. And then he realizes that he looks like a pirate. And he starts making fun of himself just ever so briefly for looking like a pirate. Take a listen. You know, dress up like a I started this. I go dress up like a pirate, but I do. So we're being able to say Billy Bob is here. He's got the pirate look going. I mean, what is the look that you go for? Because really it's very unique to you too. Not many people can pull this off. By the way, extremely well positioned by Gail King. She's not saying even he can pull it off. Yeah. She's saying. What are you going for with your look? It's not something a lot of people can put up. Dot dot dot. Mr. Bob Thornton. Well, you know, I've always. First of all, these boots had dirty there. Yeah, I got these boots in Telluride, Colorado in 1996. And they look like tire treads. Talk about how great stuff they look. And I, by the way, Vladimir is so thirsty for Billy Bob's. I would say there's about three more times where Billy Bob is talking about a piece of clothing that clearly doesn't work. And all we hear is Vlad interjecting, but it works. But it works. And we are get a little bit of that from Gail, too. I think Nate Burleson wants no part of this conversation. We hear him once. He's why he's a good broadcaster. He's a good broadcaster and he's actually handsome and well dressed. He doesn't want to be have his legacy stay in place. Billy Bob is doing precisely. I wear them in weather like this, but I wear women's size six Levi's. That's OK. What? Hello. I mean, way to break down whatever, you know, whatever your preconceived notions about Billy Bob's, you know, attempts at masculinity. He doesn't see that as a challenge to his masculinity. I mean, good for him. Right. And also, yeah, you know, well, Gail King is takes for a minute to let that sink in, she says something. Well, I'll let you hear it and then we can try to interpret what she means by this. I six. Well, yeah. Oh, Billy. And then. Oh, no. What do you think that? Oh, Billy means I think she's worried about him. He's too little. Yeah, that's very, very. That's a that's a for, you know, that's a pretty small. That's a pretty small male. He's too small. Yeah. By the way, a lady's size six, he couldn't have just said a waist twenty eight or whatever. Like that's such a choice. And I feel like he's trying to brag. It's so weird. It's a weird. Yeah, sorry. Not to jump ahead to my final analysis of this. But the fact that you just said that's a choice, I think that is quite literal. I think it was a choice coming into this interview that he was going to do this whole thing. He is an actor and he knows that he can win us over by acting like somebody who's not an asshole. And I think he was ready to talk about his fit. Don't you think though that like if he is if he's truly the person who we think he was from the Q interview on the CBC, which is a kind of a very unself-aware, very kind of rude person, would that same person be able to then talk about the you know, the fact that they look like a pirate and that they're wearing, you know, size six jeans of the gender they don't identify, etc. He brought it up. That that's my whole point. And I went back that that John Comensi. Well, no, Gail brought it up. He brought up. He's the one who interrupted himself midword pirate to bring up his own looks. And I feel like. So first of all, you guys should know where I'm coming from on this. Like that. Andrew wears a size seven. He's been trying to get down to size six for you. And you're freaking. It's at him for you. Billy B and me have been in the competition and hearing that I'm slightly behind. No, I mean, those types of things. Bruce Willis did it once with his co-lead actor on the movie Red, I want to say, or something like that. Really rude to that interviewer. I get really, really defensive when these big shot Hollywood types come in and talk down to or in Billy Bob's case, like actually kind of like really almost harass the interviewer by kind of displaying their their gap in sort of social power, cultural power or whatever. And while Gomeshi has his own issues, like in that case, I have internalized how much I hate him so much from his poutiness from that moment. So I went back and watch that today just to make sure just to get my anger up and to revisit this. And I'm just sort of thinking like, yeah, Billy Bob comes off as super charming in this and very likable, but he's also a really good actor. As much as I kind of don't like him, I think he's a really good actor. And I think in this case, he decided I'm going to come on and I'm going to I'll I'll accidentally bring up my little fit and I'll make it a thing and I'll be super charming about it. Good piece of little fit. Yes, exactly. So anyway, that's my take on the. Whole thing. I have a question. Do we think there's any possibility that he's doing like a galaxy brain high level marketing move because it's like. That for them for the the real Americans who watch Landman. The guy who's to them, the guy who stars in Landman is not a pirate wearing women's jeans. Right. And so. But so it's like he but he needs to maybe try to reach some of the the woke mind virus Americans by being like, see, I'm like you. But then the other people who do like Landman, but don't like a gay pirate, will say he's so good at look how good at acting he is. Because in real life, he's that guy in the women's jeans. But then in Landman, he's a testosterone soaked, you know, T-Bone steak happens at Landman. I feel like at the very least, I think what he's learned, he had to teach himself how to be self deprecating or whatever version of that that is. And maybe that was a result of this disastrous Gian Gomeshi. By the way, I was also on his radio show once. When he got canceled, I was like, oh my God. Yeah, you were at I was at a like a public radio conference where there was a get together afterwards and he was there and a weird guy came out our intern. Oh, years, years before, obviously, like the the S really hit the fan, but let me, you know, and I don't think anything substantive happened. Yeah, but it was just kind of like, huh, that's a strange thing. You got to trust your instincts, girlies. That's what we're saying. Anyways, I just feel like you don't go on to a morning show wearing a wool scarf as an asca and a disco collar shirt open and a and a do rag underneath a red velvet Dave Navarro hat from Ink Master and then be like and then take yourself too seriously. I feel like this was all choices. Everyone a choice. And I think that I feel a little bit like Lindy. Like I feel like he's like, OK, we've already captured the elderly people who watch CBS. Let me try to get a couple woke or two. I don't know. Just let them know I wear women's jeans. I'll really win him over. Well, you know what? He opened up a can of whoop up on my heart. No, I forgot about what. Because I think I bought this hook line in Sinker. What is wrong with me? I'm so naive. I mean, I'm I'm I'm hearing what you all are saying and I'm I'm tending to agree with you. I very much fell into the trap of thinking, oh, this guy maybe is actually like not as much of a little turd as I thought he was from that other interview. You don't wear you don't wear Dave Navarro's castoffs like that unless. You know, you have a car. Electra maybe not everyone fits into a neat box, you guys. Wow. So you're saying it's not just good or bad. Would you say it's more like six, seven or? Oh, boy. Oh, boy. No, OK, so the rest of I won't play the rest of the interview. Oh, there's more. Oh, there is. We don't have to hear it. But basically, again, because you guys think this is all PsyOps, it doesn't really matter. But I did think it was interesting that he was saying and you I'm leaving out like three more. Oh, it's working. Wait, Vladimir. Can I say I don't think it's PsyOps, actually, I think that that's just what he's like. I would just like to say personally, my my stinks say this is just this is just like a chaotic guy who is annoying. But like, you know what I mean? Because like an annoying person can sometimes be charming. I just feel like this man is is pickled in showbiz. And so he does whatever he wants and he thinks that whatever he does is a great idea. Oh, boy, is he pickled. I think that's I think that is pickled sister. I think that's such a perfect description, Lindy, of exactly what happens to these folks. I support my colleagues analysis that that it's all choices. I think both I think NFL, I think go teams. He did say he did say that the reason he does that weird double hat thing. And remember, this is the segments called hats entertainment. We have to always bring it back to that. Right. Yep. Is because he he really liked this like skull cap little thing that he got from some designer guy, but then he said and then he's like, yeah, I pull. You know, I put on this little like a ski cap thing and then Vladimir goes, it's working. And he goes, yeah, but but Billy, Billy Bob has to correct him and go, yeah, but but if it's just wearing that, I look like a pinhead. So then I thought I'd put this other hat on top of it. And then I think at that point, Gail realizes that they've spent far too much time. Hard pivots into an unrelated. Gail's like, you know, I don't even have to work. Like, why am I here? Exactly. So like nonsense. If it makes you look pinhead, what do you like about it? Sounds like you don't like it. If you immediately have to cover it with as Megan has called it, a Navarro. Navarro job. You know, this is too obvious thing to say. And I apologize for being so pedestrian. But if you haven't seen the I think you should leave sketch where they parody the Gameshi interview. It's which it's a cosmic gumbo. It's the one where Santa Claus stars in the action movie. Yes. And then they show him doing press. And the guy mentions him being Santa Claus. And then he flips out. Yes. So funny. I did not connect those dots. But yeah, that's obvious. That's obviously he's like, I said, I said no question. It's about being Santa Claus. I'm here to talk about my acting. That's why I'm RP to that guy. Oh, that's right. He passed away recently. That's why I feel like there's another there's like an alternate universe where Billy Bob walks into some interview and somebody has the gall to ask him about his outfit or his little hats. And he says, you wouldn't say that to Tom Petty, would you? And like, he would just decide that he's going to be a total jerk about that. Right. So that's what kind of bugs me. I agree with you, Andrew. And I think that goes to Lindy's point, which is like, and I bet you that there's a lot of people, you know, a lot of these Hollywood stars that are like this, where they've just been pickling in it for so long. It's been working for them, regardless of if like they even understand why it's working. And so everything to them that they're thinking seems like a good idea in the moment. And sometimes that ends up being charming and nice. And sometimes it ends up being totally unhinged. And they can't even tell you the difference. Yeah, agreed. Yeah. I think that tracks. All right. He looks cold. Yeah. I wish him. I wish him, you know, of some well, some woolly socks and per Gale. He needs to book up. Exactly. He's a little too little. She's worried. Well, my friends, what do you think? Have we I'm a if you can tell over the video? I was going to say I am no longer in the words of Manfred Man. I'm blinded by the light. Not wrapped up like a dish. Which I thought it was for we all did most of my life. I did. Yeah. Wait, where do we always land on this, Andrew? Is that a Bruce Springsteen original or not? I don't think so. But I don't know if we have anything to do with blinded by the light. I didn't even know that was Manfred Man. I thought I was. We're recording this a little bit. It was written and recorded by Bruce Springsteen. Bob Thornton and the Box Masters. Asbury Park and singing backup vocals was Billy Bob Thornton. Landman. Would you ask that of Tom Petty? Absolutely. I'm realizing a structural design of my little home studio here in Southern Washington, which is if we're ever trying to record at this time of day and it's the weird nice day in the winter time, it's absolutely impossible for me to see what's watching you suffer right now is unfortunately very funny to me. It's like a rectangle of bright ass sunlight just where your eyeballs are like nowhere else in your room. It's so funny to me. It's so funny to me. I did not even know this was a possibility. So I'm obsessed. I don't know if you guys noticed, but I was having the same problem. Yes, you were first half because I'm sitting under a skylight and the whole right side of my face was well, you don't know this. But well, maybe you do because you can see yourself, but your your camera was like glowing around the edges like you were sent by angels from heaven into this river side. It was beautiful. I had to turn my hat to the side. Like, you know, I thought you were just being jaunty. No, like I look like a like a rug rat or something. I had to go sideways cap to shield my eyes, but now the sun has gone. You look like MC. MC. That's right. It looked like we're turning a Bruno over here. Anyways, another pleasurable afternoon with Tim till of the dog. Wolf. Absolutely. Thank you all. Thank you. Goodbye. Would you say that to Tom Petty? You wouldn't say that to Tom Petty, would you? Power out.