Hello, I'm here during the lunch rush with Janice, who owns her own food truck. Best cheese sticks and down? Janice traded up to Geico Commercial Auto Insurance for her food truck business. We're here where she needs us most. They sure are. We make it so easy for her to save, with customized coverage that grows with her business. Sorry, I just get so emotional talking about saving folks money. Not this onion I'm chopping. It's just so beautiful. Oh yeah, nice the onion. Get a commercial auto insurance quote today at Geico.com and see how much you could save. It feels good to Geico. I looked over and I see this figure out of the corner of my eye. And as I look over this red figure, it's like a flash of red, bright red, you know, about seven, maybe seven and a half feet tall, catches my eye. And right as I look over, I had my eye on for about a second or two and it's gone. I don't know, it was almost like I could see legs and arms and everything. I could see a whole figure, the neck and head and everything. It was almost like it blew itself up, but in red. Well, it's doing BF pro stuff before I even started going up by myself. And they're just to get a rundown of what they do and you know what I needed to know. Like on one of their trips that they have? Yeah, like on one of their trips. Yeah, I went to like Yakima once and then I went to like Northern Idaho. Yeah. Another time. Yeah. Up in the panhandle up by Coeur d'Alene and then like a couple of years after that, I did the finding Bigfoot stuff in Coeur d'Alene. Yeah. And that was a good experience. Even though we didn't have a lot of activity. Were you part of like the town hall of one of the episodes? Whenever they came to Pocatello, I was able to get into that one. Yeah. It took place in like a fort and they only allowed a certain amount of people into that one. And I basically got into that one and I did take part in that one. But then when they had that, when we were doing the show, they asked us not to come to the town hall, which is kind of a bummer because that was my favorite part. Yeah. So, yeah, when they did Coeur d'Alene, I wasn't able to go to that one. But yeah, I did a lot of running around with Matt and this and that. How much of a difference was there behind the scenes with what was going on? You had the show, but like were you guys actually out there bigfooting and stuff? It's a little bit different than what you see on TV. And a lot of the stuff that they had, that they had us do didn't even make it on the show. Yeah. Some of the footage and stuff like that. I was always out with Matt or Bobo or Tyler. It's one of the guys that does a lot of their scouting for like places to go. And so, yeah, I was always out with somebody. It is kind of different. Like on camera, they would say, oh, you can't say that. Oh, you can't do that. So there was some of this and that that I didn't expect where they said, oh, you should say that. Or you can't say that on camera. Like, okay. Did you take them to like an actual location where you had an encounter? So I didn't take them to since they were northern. I don't have a lot of experience with like the areas up there. Yeah. Like I do here because my encounter was sawtooth and better mountains. And they're up in like clear water and there's a lot of activity up there. A lot more than here. And so, no, I didn't really know where to go. I just knew like, you know, kind of like what they do, how they research from the BFRO site. Like, oh, there's sighting here a year ago. Maybe we could go there and see if anything happens, you know, and then kind of kind of bounce it off the crypto leaders and stuff like that. Even when I went out with Kevin, Kevin was the guy that I met at Yakima. He did the one over here in northern Idaho. It was basically some of the same crew that came from Washington came over here. You know, you're up in the panhandle. So it's there's areas up there where it gets real like only 10 miles across, you know, way out there. I've heard quite a few like very, I'm going to say intense big foot encounters from Idaho over the years. Quite a few pretty amazing ones. What was your first encounter like? So basically me and a friend, because I got on all this doing hiking, you know, hiking in and out remote areas. And there's an area up there called Loon Lake. And so Loon Lake is a good. I mean, to take a dark road for probably 20, 25 miles out outside of town once you leave the pavement. And then you get to the trailhead near another five or so five and a half miles into the lake. And so he and I went out there. And I'd been going every year, right before he even started going with me to this same location. Yeah, to the same lake only because I'd heard about activity at Loon Lake. So I'm like, okay, well, I want to go there too. And I find out what this place is like. And so I'd been going every year by myself with nobody hiking in, getting there early, coming back, not having activity, not spending the night and things like that. And then the one time I bring somebody, we end up having to spend the night and it wasn't even planned out. Oh, wow. I mean, we didn't have sleeping bag or anything. We didn't have nothing basically had a backpack. So because basically I was we weren't hiking with a compass or anything like that. No GPS. It is kind of interesting how your stuff loses reception and batteries get drained really quickly out there. Kind of like, I don't know if you've heard about that, but BFR always talks about that stuff, you know, batteries that were brand new go dead things that have been fully charged automatically, you know, lose charge within an hour. So there was that kind of stuff going on. And I noticed that almost right away. We were on the trail. Coming we went to the lake, right? Yeah. And there's an old plane crash out there. There's an old plane crash from like World War two. And those kids had to get out of there on their own. And then they're picked up from there. But we went to the plane crash. It's just a whole of a plane basically was a few parts in there. And so we were coming back. And of course I always take the shorter route. And my buddies like, oh, no, let's go this way. It's going to let's try a different way back. And I'm like, dude, we should never do that. We should never do that, you know, and you should always take the same route and not take a different route if you don't know where you're going, right? But no map or nothing. So, but I couldn't talk them out of it. And I'm like, oh, man, we shouldn't be doing this or should be doing this. So we ended up on a different trail. I knew we were headed in general direction of the main road we came in on. I was kind of nervous because I'm like, man, we should, why didn't we just go back the way we came in? Would have been more sense. And you had never taken this other trail before? I had no, I'd never taken this other trail before. Other than looking at maps and doing their, I knew there was a couple ways that you could go in. But this route of about five miles or so is the shortest. And so as we're going out, I'm like, okay, we're probably going towards the road. But then we're going to have to figure out where the car is. Yeah. And so, you know, one thing leads to another. I mean, we, we, we walked all day and it's getting to be dark. And we're still walking. We're still going. We're still moving. And I just finally said, because it was almost, I mean, it was past nightfall. It was getting, getting to be so dark. I just couldn't go anymore. And I could just feel the blisters on my feet. And I wasn't about to take my boots off or anything, but I just finally said, dude, I'm just going to crash right here. I don't know what you're going to do, but I'm just going to lay, lay down right here on the trail. And so it's a single track. I mean, that had to be kind of terrifying, right? I was a little nervous. I hadn't had a lot of, a lot of activity at that point, but I'm still like, okay, this is not good. I've never done this before. Yeah. Just in the sense of like not being prepared to stay overnight and all that and not knowing where you are really being prepared. Yeah. And so, you know, and normally I'm going to carry a backpack with me because it's a day hike, right? You're in and you're out. Yeah. So I hopped in and hopped back and I had matches and stuff in there. And I was able to like, we gather up some wood and like started a little fire and things like that. And, you know, sure enough, we're out there. We could kind of hear like, like he could, he said, he saw, he heard wrestling like off the trail in the trees. Cause she was a little ahead of me and I'm like, okay, that's kind of where let's go a little further. And once we stopped, I just thought, well, we're going to camp here or screw it. I mean, we're not going to get back to car in the next 10, 15 minutes. So I figured it's going to be easier to wait till it's light again and then we'll, you know, we'll read, assess what we're doing and keep going up to the road and hopefully find the car. And then right about then, like I'd gotten a fire started and sure enough, we hear what's going on. And I was like, send it like some kind of like a, like a siren or something like that. Like a, like a fire engine siren. What it sounded like to us. And I mean, it was loud. Was it nearby? It was fairly close. Oh, we couldn't see anything. I mean, it was black. I didn't have a, I didn't have like headlight up or cause I didn't bring any of that stuff. So in, and like my phone was dead, everything was dead by then. Um, so I didn't have a light source or anything. And then so we go to lay down and we decided, you know, we, we wanted to keep the fire going right? Cause it was kind of cool. It's July, but it's still, it's cold up there. Right. I'm definitely having a fire. Right. So we definitely had fire going and we decided, well, let's just sleep. Um, well, one will take turns sleeping. Why the other one make sure the fryer is going. So that's what we're doing. But as we're laying down, we saw these like, um, you know, kind of like yellow warps. And they were down close to the ground. And, um, I don't even know if his eyes, I don't know what they were. They were, they were yellow, but they were, they weren't real bright. That was the weird thing. They were, yeah, I don't know how to describe it. They were kind of a dim yellow. And it was kind of funny cause he only remembered one and I remember two. And I didn't know what to make of it. It was just, it was really, really bizarre. Could you tell how far away they were? No, man, they weren't, they weren't probably only maybe 30 feet from us. Maybe. So just kind of at the edge of the camp light. Uh-huh. Yeah, it was some. That point in the trail, there's a zigzag and it was it was right at the end to where the, where you're turned to go back down. And, um, and we didn't know what to make of it. I didn't even know if I should approach it at the time because I just thought, what the heck is this thing? Yeah. Almost like taking in a movie. I mean, you know, you didn't know what to think. And, um, you know, it was there for these two hours or more. I mean, it was there for a long time. Did it stay in one spot or did it move around? It's, you know, it stayed in one spot, low to the ground. Um, there are, there are so big around maybe a few inches across or so. Two and a half, three inches across each one. Like when I was lit up, it was kind of like, it was almost like giving up like a little puffs of smoke and stuff. So I didn't, yeah, I didn't know exactly what to make of it really at the time. And I'm like, do you see that? He's like, yeah, I see it. And so I know you saw it too. And like, I don't know what to make of this whole thing. It's crazy. And you guys had already heard the siren. So we'd already heard this. Yeah, we had already heard the siren. The siren was the first thing that happened when we heard that you were going to this location because of your interest in Bigfoot. Right. Was he interested in Bigfoot too? He was. I started out as skeptic. When you guys heard that siren call. Did you both just go to Bigfoot as the possible source? I didn't know what to think of it. I mean, I didn't, it's not like we heard wrestling and stuff like that. The bush was after, after that, that was the weird thing. I mean, we heard it and then it stopped and that was it. And so I, I didn't know what to make of it. I mean, I surely wasn't going to run down there and find out what was going on. Right. Yeah. That's true. All that. And I don't think he was going to either. So I just, uh, I was like, okay, let's keep on going. Let's see what happens here. Right. Yeah. Yeah. It's like a roller coaster ride. Like, you don't know what to expect. And then, um, you know, we had that, we had the jello orbs for, you know, a good two, two and a half hours, at least, not more. Um, and then about that time, like I'm, I'm just laying there. Right. I mean, I didn't really get any real sleep, but about that time I, I looked over and this, I see this figure out of the corner of my eye, catches me and I'm thinking of something like maybe something's a little off fire or whatever. And as I look over this red figure, it's like a flash of red, bright red, you know, about seven, maybe seven and a half feet tall catches my eye. And right as I look over, I had my eye on him for about a second or two. It's gone. First story didn't see that. I mean, he has back turned, but everything else I experienced. He had the same experience. I did. So the red thing was that like eye shine or what was that? I don't know. It was almost like I could see legs and, and arms and everything. Like you could see the whole figure. Yeah. I could see a whole figure, the neck and head and everything. It was almost like it blew itself up, but in red color red. Um, and, you know, it was kind of funny because I, I talked to, you know, cause of course you get together with BFR guys and I talked about, well, about that. And he goes, you have had other people say stuff like that, like that flash of red or a flash of color. It was just pop up out of nowhere. And you, you know, you're off the dark. So, I mean, it's kind of hard to miss it. Yeah. I didn't know what to make a whole thing. It was pretty wild. I mean, whenever it's dark, you know, the, the loss of light means loss of color vision. Um, right. So whatever it was, I mean, it had to have been producing some sort of light for you to see the color red. Right. Well, that's like when I had green, high shine, you know, the, I brought that up with, um, Renee and she was like, what was the light source? And I'm like, I don't know what to tell you. It was by one of this and you're out there in darkness, you know, I mean, there was no real light source. It wasn't very bright that night. You hardly seen stars out even, you know, yeah. Yeah. It was pretty dark without the fire. There wasn't much there. And this red figure that you saw, I mean, was it like the classic shape of a big foot? Yeah. It was a classic shape of the conical head. Yeah. Also no neck. Yeah. Also no neck. Um, and then, you know, the whole experience was just, I guess, kind of surreal that point. I mean, you don't know what's going on. What's happening. Yeah. And then, and then, um, like when we started heading out the next morning, like nothing happened after that, other than sleeping, but the next morning, when we started heading out where we could hear calls going from one going to the other. And that was going on for a long time. When we started walking, it was probably like the birds were chirping. So I figured it would had to be right around 530 or 6. And, um, it was light enough to where we could see where we're going. And, uh, we could hear, you know, two calling back and forth to each other. And that went on for good hour or so. Were they on the opposite sides of the trail you were on or on the same side? I'm trying to think because a trail turned and then it went through a stream and they were up on the other side. Like it would have been further down the river and up like maybe midway up at both side. So I don't even know if they're on the trail or if they just out there in the woods somewhere. At that point, I just wanted to tell out of there. Right? Yeah. It was, it was another experience. I just went out of there at that point, but we're just like, what the hell is that? His first reaction is, is it kids playing and I'm thinking, dude, 530 in the morning, my kids are going to be playing out here. Right? Out in the wilderness. Just a couple of kids out there yelling at 530 in the morning. Yeah. Right. You're on back and forth. And, uh, there was, um, you know, because what happened in the end is, um, I was, my feet were getting so sore from walking so long that he, um, he ended up, he ended up running ahead of me. And by then we were clitting, you know, he went down this, you go down a hill and then you go through. Um, there's like a bridge right there. There's a couple bridges that you cross and you go up another little hill. By the time you get that far, there were, there were some campsites. So I guess he was just like banging on somebody's door like wanting to get help. He had to work that day. I didn't have to work. So he was just like, I'll nervous. He's going to be late for work. But, um, this guy, this guy ended up getting on his dirt bike and, um, he ended up coming looking for me. Oh, yeah. Eventually he did find me. But at that point, you know, I thought I'd lost him because, you know, I'd went as far as he went and somehow he found that trailer. He found that camper. And I'm like, where the hell are you, dude? Cause, and I was like yelling for him. Like, I didn't know what the heck was going on. Right. And at that time, like I was walking back and forth. Like I was, I was, um, since I was solo, I was just walking. I was just trying to move as much as I could. And I had done that like two or three times, like, went down that hill over both those bridges. And then I had to be right in the vicinity where that camper was somewhere, but never did see it. And, um, then the last time I was just determined, I'm like, okay, screw this. And I'm thinking I'm just going to walk back and go the way I came and freaking go back to where I know the car is at. Um, and I was thinking I was just going to walk back. And then, um, at that point, I was just, uh, I was sitting on my backpack for about 10 minutes and I could hear this dirt bike coming. And I'm thinking, oh man, this could be for me. So I was just sitting there for about 15 minutes and I could hear this bike coming and I just turned up the trail and then he got up to me and he stopped and he's like, are you Rob? I'm like, uh, yeah. He's like, oh, we Tory, Tory found us. And from there, I just got out of there. He gave us ride back to my car and everything. Wow. So yeah, this is quite the experience. I called the loon Lake Ruby Meadows adventure. What I call it. Yeah, that's crazy, man. Yeah, isn't it? I had, I had no idea. And like I said, Idaho does not disappoint in the intense big foot encounters, but I think that might be one of the best ones for sure. Like the idea of kind of being lost out there in the middle of the wilderness and dealing with that. Right. That's a lot, man. Yeah, that's one of the more crazier ones that I've heard about too. My other experience was, um, I didn't see anything, but I hiked in this before I had any, had any sightings. I hiked, I hiked in an area around here called dry canyon. I guess somebody had some activity in dry canyon just a couple of years ago. I haven't been over there in a long time, but in dry canyon, I found a, I didn't have anybody with me on that trip, but, um, I found that Cal school hanging up on a lake on a broken tree branch, you know, about seven feet high or so. Oh, wow. Just, uh, yeah, just Cal school hanging up high in a tree. Sounds like somebody had activity there just, I think it was 2022 or 23. So I'm not that. And I would assume no cattle in the area. Not that I know of. I never did see any cattle. I'm sure there are any other stuff, but never did see any cows. Yeah. That's like something I've heard several times. I mean, I heard that before. Yeah. People finding like random skulls, uh, kind of stuck up on trees out in the middle of the woods. Right. Yeah. It's kind of like a marker. Yeah. And then I've also heard like, um, there's an area, there's a town called McCall somewhere outside of McCall, not tons of the mountains, but some, somewhere outside of town or somebody said they found a big pile of bones and they're like, you know, if it doesn't do that, if it's not a person, then, you know, that kind of narrows down pretty quickly. Yeah. You know, if you're just finding some random bones, just like in a pile, I found something kind of similar. It wasn't really a pile, but it's kind of like just various bones, maybe like 10 along the canal. Now, have you had any other sightings? Yeah. The other sighting was, um, saw there's an area called Redfish Lake. It's in the sawtooth, um, near Stanley. Um, I mean, if there's a guy in my group, Travis Terry, he's, he's seen a whole family in that area. So I hiked in with him and there's, if you go, there's some bench like above Redfish. So, um, we hiked into, um, what's called Kramer Lakes. There's mid Kramer. There's lower Kramer, mid Kramer, upper Kramer. And he and I hiked in there. Um, and we got to, we got to, um, we got to a campground on the first day and we had something room through our camp, you know, flash green eyes. And this one was bigger. This one was taller. Um, supposedly green needs trouble. What I've been told, but, um, and this is a nightfall, you know, I could, I could see a figure here, but it wasn't like it was black either. And we had something room through. Well, what happened first was kind of weird because it had, you know, we had something up above us. And it was kind of like a, kind of like a shiny ball with points. You know, cause we thought we were being paralleled on the trail anyway, way before any of this happened. Like going into camp. Yeah. Like going into camp once we decided to start putting our camping stuff down and everything. Um, we could, you're wrestling in the grass. And then right about then I looked up and I could see a shiny ball, maybe like 10, 15 feet above the trees. Um, kind of like this disco ball things. It was kind of like that, but it had points on it. And I asked Travis, I was like, Hey, do you see that? He goes, yep. And it was there for like maybe seven, eight seconds. And then all of a sudden it just lowered itself into the trees. And then nothing for about a minute or two. And then right about then this figure rooms for our camp. Wow. Yeah. And this one is, I think it was bigger. It looked like a male to me. It seemed like it was bigger, but also a conical head. And it just, you know, it's flashed with green eyes at us. And then we're just looking at him go, what the hell was that? And, um, so we were there two nights. So that happened the first night. Um, we didn't have anything else happen that night. Other not. And then the next night I got a whoop. Like after I'd been on my 10 already, you know, just whoop. And I asked him, I was like, do you hear that? And he said, he didn't hear it. So. Whenever you said it flashed, it's green eyes at you. The eyes aren't lit up and then they are like it, like a flash. Yeah, it was really, you know, what the way of moved it had perfect Patterson Gilman form with the arms way and everything and how the hollow legs spread apart. And, you know, he's looking at us and then he looks forward and he looks at us again, did that a few times. And then those, those eyes were, um, I don't think it, I don't think of it as reflection. I mean, this is an actual shine. Um, but it was different than like, like when you see Dears eyes or, or whatever and they pop out from your car and kind of get that reflection. It wasn't like that. These eyes really lit up. And this ball that you saw, um, it looked metallic. Yeah, it looked like a mirror. So I told other people about this and they, um, like my one friend, Greg said, yeah, that was must have been the portal. And I'm like, I don't know. We didn't, you know, we, we thought we were being trailed on the trail, but you know, the thing's so stealth. We didn't hear a lot. Yeah. You know, here, here are tweaks now points a while, but it wasn't like, it was a big wrestling and all that for something that big, how big was the ball thing? The ball was probably, it was like basketball size probably. And it had, you said like spikes all over it. Yeah. It had like points all the way around it. And it was like pulsing, you know, when it was moving, it was like going in and out. Wow. And then as it's doing that, it's, it's also a lowering, lowering, lowering, lowering, lowering, you know, and then thinking of myself, what the hell is that? Never seen anything like that. So I, I was like, what the hell? Any sound associated with it? No, I don't think so. I don't remember any sound. Man, I've, I don't think I've ever heard. Anything like that before. I've, I've heard a lot of orb stories, you know, but like nothing like a metallic ball or anything. Yeah, it was, um, I was kind of hair raising. I've heard about it once before, but you know, when they say this thing like mudrums license North American ape and I'm like, is it really an ape or is it something like we don't know, we might not even know what this thing is, you know? Yeah. So the more I researched it, the more I find out I'm like, is it even from earth? You know, I mean, when stuff like this happens, really got to make you wonder. And did anything like follow you guys out or mess with you after that? No, but you know, there was kind of weird because, um, I don't remember anything else, but you know, years ago, um, I think it was like to 2012 or 2013. There was a guy that hiked in there alone and he, so where there, so it's got that bench like we went to the right and pretty much stayed to the right till we got to the upper lakes. He went to the left and stayed to the left and went to a different area. I haven't been there, but think there's an area in there called the Elephant's Perch. And I don't know exactly where he was, but he ended up, he ended up coming up missing and then they never did find him and they never did find, um, like what happened to him or anything. But I remember hearing about it and then it was like they searched an area a few different times and then they went back to the same area and his belongings were there. Oh, wow. Yeah, weird, huh? Have you ever experienced like missing time or anything? No, I haven't really had anything like that happen. All I know is, um, like for me, I never did have any UFO experiences prior to this stuff. But now I've definitely seen stuff I can't explain. Um, not missing time, but yeah, I've definitely seen some things I can't explain. Like just randomly things on the sky or things that you think are like. Um, well, different things. Um, I used to get this light that I would see up in the sky and this was Super Bowl night of 2013. Yeah. Um, so I was driving back. I watched the game at my brother's house and driving home and I was on my way home and it is I'm driving home. I'm like, see this light, you know, kind of, but not very high up. I'm like, what the hell is that? So I, I turned the car off because that car had the lights that stay on once the car was off. So I turned the car off and got the binoculars out and I could see something kind of like diamond shaped with the multicolored thing. You know, the lights or multicolored spinning. Yeah. And I was watching them for about 78 seconds and right about then it just ish went zipped up, you know, straight up. And then right about then, um, it started falling on the bridge line as hell. And so I'm like, okay, I'm following it. So I followed it up this canyon and I went about eight or nine miles up this canyon, but it was winter. So I got to a point, but I, I mean, when I was following it, it's wintertime and I'm on the dirt roads, normally a dirt road driving, you know, as fast as I could, probably 50 miles an hour, can follow us. And the roads, the roads all run it out and everything. And I was trying, trying my best to follow it. And there's an old hot springs there that everybody used to go to and read the hot springs. That's where the, where the, um, the road was plowed after that. So this thing just, it was just kind of cruising and right as I stopped, it just kind of went over the hood of the car and just kept going. And then next, next canyon over that way is greenhorn. That's where we used to ride motorcycles in that area a lot. So that thing just cruise right over the top of the car and just kept cruising back the other way. Wow. That was definitely interesting on it. And I think I've seen that more than once. Like that same one? Yeah. It's like a diamond shape and it spins and, um, you know, summer summer summer summer summer summer summer summer summer summer summer summer summer summer summer summer summer summer summer summer summer summer summer summer summer summer summer summer summer summer summer summer summer summer summer summer summer summer summer summer summer summer summer summer summer summer summer summer summer summer summer summer summer summer summer summer summer summer summer summer summer summer summer summer summer summer summer summer summer summer I don't know how much they have going on up there, but we definitely have definitely up there. They have big foot stuff and and there I think there's been some UFO stuff now like area 51 stuff, but definitely some stuff. Right. Yeah. And then another time I was walking here with my dog. There's this little area where I follow a canal and I've kind of heard about stuff in it kind of in that journal area. Even though I haven't had anything happen. And we always follow the canal and we kind of we get off off the bench and then go down by the canal and then it kind of goes to a little area where the dog can play and stuff. As we were coming back, I saw two little craft, you know, two small craft, just cruising, not going very fast. Each had a red light and a green light and it was pretty, it was pretty wild because they were, you almost couldn't see them. If they didn't have a light on them, you would almost miss it. And they each had two lights, but then as I'm looking at it, I mean, I didn't want to come over by us hopefully, but I mean, the dog just stopped and I got down and I'm just kind of watching it because it was on the other side of the fence. Yeah. And as I'm watching it, I swear, I could see like, you know, a little bean in there, like piloting this crap. I mean, it's freaking wildest thing ever. Yeah, like pilot, like I could see some moving around in there. It wasn't very big craft. So, I mean, it was pretty small to be in that craft because it wasn't very big. You know, you hear these stories where they can be nine feet tall or they could be like inches tall. So, I don't know. What shape was the crafts? The craft was so I could make out kind of like, I mean, it was like classic, similar like, like I used to watch Jetsons when I was younger and I remember that had the glass top. Yeah. And then it kind of had the ring around it, but this was really small in scale to that one. But it was similar to that. Yeah, that's basically all I remember about that. So, do you think there's a connection between the big foot and this stuff? Well, it makes you wonder, you know, you never think, you never think so until you have a sighting and then all of a sudden, all this other stuff happening, it starts happening and then it's got to make you wonder, you know, is it connected or it also makes you wonder, you know, who's, you know, they talk about these men in black and it just, your brain just goes crazy with stuff, you know, with what's really going on when you start having all this stuff going on. One of the stories I've heard about Idaho, a guy came on the show talking about it, was he had an encounter with what he described as a wolf, a black wolf, but it was like incredibly large, like six foot tall at the shoulder. Have you heard anything about giant wolves or anything in the area? I haven't heard a lot about it. My friend Travis, when I had my second encounter, said he came across something like that on the green belt. They call it over here, it's just a bike path that runs along the river. And he said he came across something like that. I think he said it was wee hours in the morning and it sounded like it was, you know, whatever he really thinks of his dog, man. And I've never, I've never come across anything like that, but you know, Wisconsin and Minnesota and those places seemed like they have a lot of stories like that. There seems to be quite a few stories of those type things up in the Northern States. Yeah. That will about do it. I know you're busy, so I don't want to keep you too long or anything, but I appreciate you coming on here and sharing some of your encounters. Yeah, thanks for having me. If you've had an encounter with Bigfoot or something else you can explain, you'd like to share your story on the podcast, email me at bigfootcrossroads at gmail.com. Check out the website, bigfootcrossroads.com. You can find links to social media, past episodes, merchandise, everything you need, all in one place. And until next time, remember, there's something in the woods. Thank you.
