Miracle Mentality with Tim Storey (Motivation, Self Help, and Mental Health)

Ilana Golan: How to Build a Career and Life You Love in 2026 | Success | E26

40 min
Feb 9, 20264 months ago
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Summary

Ilana Golan, first woman to command F-16 simulator training in Israel, discusses her journey from military leadership to tech entrepreneurship and founding Leap Academy. She shares her framework for career reinvention, personal branding, and building multiple income streams in an AI-driven future where adaptability quotient (AQ) is more critical than traditional intelligence measures.

Insights
  • Identity attachment to titles and roles creates vulnerability; true resilience comes from developing skills and personal brand independent of any single position
  • Paid commitments drive accountability and engagement far more effectively than free offerings; pricing is a feature that improves outcomes
  • Career success is shifting from single-ladder progression to portfolio careers with multiple ventures and income streams; adaptability is now more valuable than expertise alone
  • Personal branding and strategic storytelling are essential currencies for relevance; your resume no longer defines your narrative or opportunities
  • Clarity emerges through action and experimentation, not planning; small imperfect steps build momentum faster than waiting for perfect conditions
Trends
Shift from IQ/EQ to AQ (Adaptability Quotient) as primary success metric in rapidly changing economyPortfolio careers and multiple income streams becoming standard rather than exception for high-performersPersonal branding and thought leadership as critical career infrastructure, especially amid AI disruptionCoaching and mentorship market expansion as professionals seek guidance through career transitionsEmphasis on founder/executive vulnerability and failure narratives in leadership content and podcastingTech industry focus on scaling impact through education and community (Leap Academy model)Reinvention and career pivoting becoming normalized life skill rather than crisis responseHidden job market and network-driven opportunities outpacing traditional job boardsCharging premium prices for transformation services as quality signal and commitment mechanism
Topics
Career reinvention and pivoting strategiesPersonal branding and thought leadership developmentPortfolio careers and multiple income streamsAdaptability quotient (AQ) and future-proofing careersEntrepreneurship and startup scalingLeadership in male-dominated industriesOvercoming failure and rejectionPricing strategy and charging for expertiseNetwork building and ambassador creationMilitary leadership to business transitionTech industry career progressionPodcast as business and brand-building toolCoaching and mentorship modelsAI disruption and workforce reinventionIdentity and self-worth beyond job titles
Companies
Intel
Ilana's first tech company role after transitioning from military; launched her engineering and technology career
Google
Mentioned as one of the biggest startups where Ilana mentored and advised companies through accelerators
Singularity University
Organization where Ilana worked mentoring in startup accelerators after her first tech startup was acquired
LinkedIn
Co-founder Reid Hoffman quoted on the end of single career ladders and rise of multiple ventures
Airbnb
Referenced as example of major founder whose story Ilana features on her podcast for leadership insights
Zillow
Referenced as example of major founder whose story Ilana features on her podcast for leadership insights
Wikipedia
Referenced as example of major founder whose story Ilana features on her podcast for leadership insights
Starbucks
Referenced as example of major company president whose story Ilana features on her podcast
Leap Academy
Ilana's primary venture; teaches driven professionals personal branding, portfolio careers, and career reinvention
People
Ilana Golan
First woman to command F-16 simulator training in Israel; tech entrepreneur and founder of Leap Academy
Tim Storey
Host of Miracle Mentality podcast; psychologist, life coach, and speaker who interviewed Ilana
Reid Hoffman
LinkedIn co-founder quoted on the shift from single career ladders to multiple ventures model
John Paul DeGarra
Guest on Miracle Mentality podcast; creator of Global SKU app for reselling items
Quotes
"When you pay, you pay attention."
Ilana GolanMid-episode
"If you're not adaptable, if you don't know how to reinvent yourself, if you don't know how to leap again, again, again, and create that portfolio, you will lose relevant at a speed we've never seen before."
Ilana GolanLate episode
"Clarity comes from action, not just thinking about it."
Ilana GolanClosing segment
"It's incredibly hard to speak about anything from the wound, but it's a lot easier from the scars."
Ilana GolanMid-episode
"If I want to help a thousand plus a year, the only way is to create a machine that changes lives."
Ilana GolanMid-episode
Full Transcript
Hello, Miracle Mentality family. You just heard my good friend, John Paul DeGarra. He was so good on this podcast. I want to tell you something that he's doing that I think is amazing. I'm introducing to you for the first time, Global SKU. It is an app designed to help you make extra money for stuff that you have just sitting around. Now, how does that work? Number one, it only costs $12 a month and you can cancel any time. What happens is that you scan an item and it tells you what the item sold for in the last 90 days. And it lists across multiple platforms, including eBay, Amazon, Walmart, Facebook, Marketplace. This is amazing. Go to the Global SKU website or the App Store and start making money today. but I have something really good for you. For the first 50 people from my world that comment, I'm going to give you Global SKU for absolutely free for one month. For the first 50 people that comment, I want to give you a free month subscription. So respond right now. That's Global SKU. Hello, my name is Tim Story. Welcome to Miracle Mentality. Remember rooftops, drawing spaceships on the ground. It's for the dreamers, the doers, the believers in something greater. In each episode, I'll invite you to rise above the mundane, to push past the messy, and learn to live boldly in the miraculous. Every episode will have practical wisdom, spiritual insight, and my guests will explore what it takes to activate your miracle mindset. Remember to subscribe, follow, and like. Welcome to the Miracle Mentality Podcast. You guys are liking it, subscribing to it, and you're telling friends. No wonder we stay in the top 10, sometimes at number four in the categories I like. So could you imagine if you told more friends, we'd help more people have a miracle mentality. Today, I'm excited, really excited because I am interviewing one of my friends, Ilana Golan. She is a leader, an innovator, a true reinventor. She became the first woman to command the F-16 simulator training the Israel force. She is breaking barriers in everything that she does. She is a leader of leaders with something that I've been able to speak at before. She does something called Leap Academy that we'll talk about today. But she is my kind of leader. She's a world shaker and a pioneer. Let's welcome to the podcast, Ilana Golden. Good to see you, miss. Ah, Tim, this is so fun. Can you read my bio all the time? Like, this is really, really fun. That would be a good way to wake up for you. It will inspire you. Oh, I love that. Let's jump right in, if you don't mind. So when I talk about the miracle mentality, as you know, a miracle is something that is extraordinary, okay? Talk to me about your mindset when you were a young child in elementary school. Were you reading a lot? Were you studying a lot? Were you thinking big? Because you were doing big things. So how were you thinking when you were little? Oh, such a powerful question, Tim. So it's interesting. I was actually, was not a lot of confidence when I was little. And I think there's a little bit of a wave, if you will. So when I started, I still remember at age maybe four or five, I actually took some of the things from my home and I sold them right in front of my home. I don't know where my parents were, like really, like where do you go when your kid is four years old? But anyway, I sold like the pens and the things and I was like, you know, so I was really, really excited. Obviously, my parents were a little mortified, but I think I showed a little bit of that entrepreneurial idea, but I think something hurt my confidence through the teenhood. And I think I gained it back sometimes around right before the military and maybe a little bit around student council and school. So somehow I got it back, but it's kind of interesting to see the wave of confidence. No, it's very interesting. So I say that some things in life, you decide, Some things you discover. And I think that we're all a hybrid between both. Some are things that we just made decisions and we went forward. Some things we discovered. With you accelerating in the military, tell us how that happened. I think I found a little bit of my leadership right before the military and kind of student counsel, but the military definitely accelerated that. We do have a compulsory military service, but I got lucky enough to get into probably like a dream place for every men and women. But for me at that point, if I'm honest, women were not really allowed to be commanders in my area. They were not allowed to be really combat pilots. So there were a lot of barriers, if you will. And I was very determined to break some of them. Oh, see, that's one reason I like you so much. I know. I had this urge to break it. I like that. So you were in Israel. Is it one or two years that you have to serve? It's roughly two years, but obviously when you're a commander, it's more. So you were mandatory the two years, and then you went on to be in the military for how many years? It's about three, a little bit. So three and a half-ish. Okay, so when they talk about the type of flying that you were doing, explain to the listeners or to the viewers what we mean by that. I was an F-16 flight instructor. What this means is basically that you learn. And again, at that time, women were not allowed to become pilots for real. That was a big barrier that was really, really hard for women at that time. They were very scared for women to be, because we were in constant combat, they were really afraid of women getting captured beyond enemy lines. So women were basically had this little thing that they could do. And so we basically found ourselves Kelly McGillis, if you will. You know, basically we were training, but we weren't really beyond enemy lines. What a critical place to be as a tutor, mentor. So there's a skill set that you develop to train them to be able to fly in the correct manner. And also having these crucial conversations to actually train people that have a lot more experience than you ever will be and will ever have. And it's just an incredible place of how do you give feedback? What is the best way? What are the crucial conversations that you want to have? But also sometimes we did find ourselves in life and death decisions. If somebody actually has an emergency in the air and we need to go to the tower and help them out, that gets scary and hairy very quickly. So I was looking at my notes. And so you've done so much in the area of business. How did the business side of you start to develop? Where does that start? It's a great question because the truth is I wanted to be a doctor all my life. I was sure that after that I'm going to be a doctor. I loved helping people and I thought that would be my calling. But in the simulator, I started falling in love with technology and what technology can enable because suddenly I realized, Tim, that with technology, I can actually help people defend my country and come home safe. And that power of technology to do bigger things just lit me up. And I just knew that I have to study this thing and it was evolving and it was exciting. and I went to electric engineering, as geek as it gets, Tim, and I started at Intel right off the bat. I love this. So you start to move into technology and then you start working for different companies and then you start companies, you sit on boards of companies. As you started to rise in the business side, did you feel fairly comfortable there? Did that start to feel like a fit for you? Uh, it's a good question. I think every time you get good at something, you essentially get stuck at it because the company is very comfortable with you being there. You get a little complacent and it gets comfortable. Right. And I think it was interesting to see how you get stuck every single time. I was a great engineer. And then, so how do I get customer facing? And then I got great at technical sales. How do I get to project management? Good there. How do I get to become a VP? You get stuck every time. But I think the big wow factor was definitely entrepreneurship. I did not expect that to be so different, so much harder than I ever anticipated, if I may say so. Yeah, because I know you fairly well. You're a person that loves to give, loves to share, love to connect. You're a master connector. Anytime I'm around you, you always point somebody out that I should meet, and you're always so gracious when I do something for your group. When did you start to get a heart to help other people do things similar to what you were doing, to mentor them to tutor them to lead them When did that start to come in your life Oh that such a great question And I will start first by saying Tim for those who don know and listening to this I brought you to speak in front of LeapCon. That was so powerful. We had hundreds of people. I think it was like 400 people listening and just soaking it all in. And you were so inspiring and so motivating. So first of all, you're a giver. You are a huge giver, and I love that we connected. So I'll start with that. But to your question, Tim, I was at that point vice president of pretty significant. We started from literally buying the printer and the router, and I saw the company grow through five sites, multi-million dollars. It was an incredible ride. But then a friend of mine came to me, actually, and said, hey, we learned a list start a company together. And Tim, that was so exciting because it was like, it's amazing. So every minute of my life, I was working on this thing. It was really exciting. I live in Silicon Valley. So the Silicon Valley thing to do is to go to investors and raise capital because we knew each other for two decades. I knew the guy very well. So we went to raise capital. And within a few weeks, there it was. It was a term sheet. They were valuating our little baby at $5 million, Tim. You know, it was an $800,000 term sheet. You know, I remember closing my eyes thinking, God, like, how could I be so lucky? So doing the goodbye party for my previous job as a vice president, I told everybody about the company. I wanted to make sure that they are safe. They know that I'm not running away from the company. I'm just running towards this dream. And we've just raised capital, not from one investor, but three prominent Silicon Valley investors. Like, it was a dream come true, Tim. and within the same 24 hours of me having that goodbye party, my co-founder decided to take the money, throw me out of the business, and I was left with nothing. No job, no salary, no company, no investment. And the worst part, Tim, is that suddenly your ego just crushing down the drain. It was mind-blowing. And it's really interesting, Tim, you talk about all the time. It's how we tend to forget all the things that we achieved. And suddenly here I am forgetting everything and just remembering how much I'm a failure, right? I mean, it's so humbling. And this was by far, Tim, first of all, I realized two very important things that I hope it will help with your listeners. So first of all, my identity was attached to my title, to my touch, to my company. I didn't have anything beyond my title. So suddenly I felt like a complete nobody, Tim. And it was like a very humbling experience. And the other thing is I had no clue where I want to go. And I always knew where I want to go. We just talked about it. I was always driven. Everything was so clear. And suddenly I have no clue. I don't even know if I want a job. I want entrepreneurship again. I want revenge. Tim, even that was on the menu. Yes. No, but I'm glad you just said that because as a person who works as a psychologist and now a life coach slash psychologist, that the things that happen when that takes place to be cut off or rejected, usually there's anger. And sometimes we want to retaliate in some form or fashion. What kind of emotions did you feel? Oh, everything, Tim. I mean, first of all, it's how on earth did I let that happen? There's a lot of shame around it. There's a lot of failure. Like I would literally toss and turn in the middle of the night. And I'm like, how did I become such a failure? What happened to me? And I think, again, when you don't have clarity of what you want to do next, you even don't have a compass. You don't even have an action plan. You wake up in the morning. What am I even waking up for? So I was grumpy to my kids. I was grumpy to my husband. My health was deteriorating. And I was like, who am I? Who is this lady that was so driven and so accomplished and now she can't even breathe. What you're saying is so powerful because I think there's a lot of people listening or watching and they've been through circumstances where they've been cut and they've been rejected. I have a teaching where I say sometimes you have to go left before you get right. And no one wants to be left, rejected, forbidden, stopped, blocked. but you did something about it. You found a way to get up. So give me two things that can help people get up from a tough place. I'll say a few things. So first of all, my journey was far from easy. And, you know, if somebody is in that dark moment, I will just say it does get darkest before the sunrise. And if you are right now in that dark, dark, dark moment, just know, first of all, there is a sunrise coming, but also if you can get the help you need to get to that sunrise faster, God, I would have like paid so much to know that somebody can actually get me out of that horrible place that I was in. Because the truth is at that moment, you don't even know if anybody or anything can help you. At that point, I was so lost. But I will say it was actually interesting. Like, I don't know if it was scripted, but suddenly I noticed that I started a tech startup and it was acquired. And then I started mentoring in some of the biggest startups in the world, like Google and Singularity University. I'm working with all these startup accelerators and suddenly I'm advising companies and I sit on board. And when I realized, Tim, I was like, wait, it's interesting how you can't connect the dots at that moment, but suddenly you're connecting them back, right? And it's like, wow, I'm actually leaping again, again, again. Is there a formula? And as a geeky engineer, you know, at the end, I'm just a geek, right? At the end, I was just like, is there a step-by-step approach that I'm doing that can actually help others in a similar place? Because the truth is when I was at the bottom of my barrel, I remember searching, how do I find my next career direction? How do I find my passion? I searched for everything. And again, I was so lost. I was like, you know what, can I take what I learned now and engineer it and just help others? And that's what we did. So basically, if there's literally, it's just four steps. The very first thing is you have to fix yourself, right? And you're the comeback coach, right? Like you know it better than I know. You know what I'm saying? Right? I mean, it's like the first thing is you have to fix yourself. If you're in a bad spot, you can't really leap. You can't really network. You can't, you know, it's like you're, whatever you're doing, you're becoming a red flag. So the first thing is fix yourself. The other thing is really get clarity on where you want to go. Because I think one of the mistakes that I see with people is they become this generalist. Everything sounds really exciting. Let me go in all directions. And then your story doesn't make sense. Your brand doesn't make sense. Your network sees you as all confused. Like that's like the worst thing that you can do to yourself. So you really want to get that clarity of where exactly you're heading. And then you want to fix your story according to where you're going, not where you are today. We're used to always tell our story according to like our resume. You're not your resume. So what you want to start is understanding intentionally and strategically where you're going and how do I tell that story, right? And then how do you create a brand around you so that more opportunities come your way? It's all going to happen in the hidden market. So that's the basis. I'm loving this. So when you step up and out of your situation of being fired, then you start to find these successes and you start to do extremely well and money starts to come in. Did money feel friendly to you or was it foreign to you? Initially, Tim, you're right. I gave everything for free for everybody and I had no freaking clue. I know. I had no clue what I'm doing. The only thing that I knew is if I continue this way, I'm going to be broke and miserable. So that is not going to be the right way. And it actually took a lot of training, a lot of mentorship for me to know how to charge my worth. And that's a big portion that I want to teach others. Okay, I like this. This is a good lesson because me going to seminary to be like a Mother Teresa, this is what I wanted to be. And this is what I became, a humanitarian who studies psychology and was helping people. When money started coming to me, I tried to push it away. I was almost afraid of it. And then I felt like, I don't know, should I be making this kind of money for what I'm doing, changing people's lives, writing books? I really had to rewire myself to realize that really this is like a blessing from God rather than the fact that I should push it away. Right. I mean, here's the thing, Tim. I mean, if we're creating a machine that changes lives, think about it. If I can help one, two, three people a year, if I do it for free, that's absolutely fine. Like that could be somebody's calling. But the truth is, if I want to help a thousand plus a year, the only way is to create a machine that changes lives. And if I want to change lives on scale, because I see actually, if I'm being really honest, tens of millions of people that are going to need to reinvent themselves because of AI. We better scale really, really fast. And yes, you do need to charge for it. But I say another thing that I think is really really important that I needed to learn the hard way Two things One when people pay they pay attention So when we started the journey I actually gave a little bit of a scholarship from time to time for somebody to come in for free And guess what, Tim? It's just like another self-help book. I have a bunch of them here. And guess what? Nobody's doing the work. Like they will give up the first time. So when you pay, you literally pay attention. I want you to be with their back against the wall. I want you to show up. But the second thing, Tim, that is really, really important was to trust yourself enough to actually pay for something. Now you can negotiate yourself. Like it's actually incredible to see how people negotiate better just because they paid a bigger price point. Like it is actually mind blowing. Okay. This is so good. So when they pay, they pay attention. I agree. I sometimes feel sorry for someone who's even wealthy and I'll give them live coaching for free. There I am at 8am in front of my zoom and they don't show up. Exactly. And then 20 minutes later, a text. Sorry, Tim. I was at the gym at the gym. Yes. Show up to the 8am. Can I give you one more example that I think will resonate with your audience? Like, so in 2017, I bought a book and it was sitting on my desk, didn't even open it. You know, maybe I browsed through it. I was like, oh, this is going to be such a good book to read one day. And it was sitting on my shelf. You know, in 2024, I spent $50,000 to probably be coached on exactly the same thing that that book probably included. Oh my. When you pay, you pay attention. That's it. Thank you for watching the Miracle Mentality podcast. So many of my friends are texting me, DMing me, speaking to me and saying, Tim, thank you for these great guests that you're bringing on. So share it with somebody, a friend, a family member, a colleague, and then make sure and reach out to us at Tim Story Official and let us know that you love what we're doing. Thank you for being a part of this movement. Tell us about Leap Academy. Who is it for? Because we might have some people that are very interested in what you're doing. Tell us about Leap Academy. I love it. So Leap Academy was basically born, again, to help driven professionals elevate their personal brand and their career and the possibilities. One of the biggest things that people don't realize, there's a new possible out there. So whether you're in corporate right now trying to figure out what's next, what else is possible for you, or whether you jump to entrepreneurship and you're trying to figure out how to make the most out of it, what are the things that we realize is, first of all, if your brand is your currency, if you're not using your brand today, you will lose relevance in a speed we've never seen before. The other thing is the one career thing that we used to see is no longer exist. And people will have what we call portfolio career and multiple ventures, multiple income streams. And if you're not starting to be very strategic about how you diversify and how do you create these multiple ventures and income streams, you're just not going to be relevant for the future of work. So to me, that's my biggest passion. And that's where you step into becoming the best version of yourself and create not just a paycheck, but the life that you want with that paycheck. And it's just an incredible land of possibilities. There was like advisory and board seats and speaking and business and coaching and consulting. And I can go on and on. It's like, there's like so many options and people don't even realize what's on the menu. So I want driven people that want more for themselves, more from their life and to join us and to create their own new possible. So that is it. No, but I'm loving that. and that was a great way to say it, is that you're teaching people how to have multiple streams of income. The way I was raised, my father worked for a steel company his entire life. My mother worked at a certain company her entire life. That's how most people in my era were raised, but it's changed. And really what you're saying is that you really won't make it in the world that we're living in now, unless you have multiple streams of income, I want you to go harder on that because I think it's very important. It is very important. So in fact, I'll say the entire rules of success have changed, Tim, which I think is fascinating. So if you look at, I don't know, 40 years ago, right? There was IQ. I don't know if your audience is old enough to remember IQ tests, right? But there was IQ tests. And a few decades ago, there came the EQ, right? It was very clear that emotional intelligence is actually more important than IQ alone. But today, if people will search it up, we're actually in the era of AQ, adaptability quotient. And if you're not adaptable, if you don't know how to reinvent yourself, if you don't know how to leap again, again, again, and create that portfolio, you will lose relevant at a speed we've never seen before. And for me, it's like, great. So how do we take driven people to understand how to become really intentional, very strategic with every move they make, make leaping a habit, not something that is a one-off. And how do you start expanding to multiple ventures, whether it's for building your brand, whether it's for fun, whether it's because it's another income stream, and how do you create this breadth for yourself? And you actually become the CEO of this enterprise. And that's the most incredible feeling ever, because again, then you'd create your own enterprise. You dictate the rules and it's the most exhilarating that it can be. Okay. What you are saying is so amazing because I love to read. So when you talk about the AQ side of things, that is so true. And we saw it during the pandemic where people got shut down. They were isolated in their house. People that used to travel for a living to do sales or even speakers that I know, big speakers. They could not fly places. And now they had to become adaptable. Find a way to do something new. And I love that you're saying that that is a skill set that must be learned. It must be learned. Oh, absolutely. And quite honestly, I don't know how it's possible that we're probably the only entity that I know of that today teaches AQ and portfolio career, But that is the future. Like we even had the co-founder of LinkedIn, Reid Hoffman, say the one career ladder is no longer there. Everybody will have multiple ventures. So how is it possible that there's no more entities that teach this? But at least I'm glad Leap Academy is there and we help thousands of people. And that to me is the biggest thing, because when people know how to become their own CEO and expand to this new possible, they become the happiest that they can be. They become their best potential. Now they're more intentional and strategic with the life that they want to create for themselves because we just want different things, Tim. It's not anymore, like you said, only about this one job, but it's about how do I create the life that I want? How do I create the travel, the freedom, the legacy, the possibilities, the reputation, the thought leadership, whatever it is that you want for yourself, how do you create it? And it's a really empowering place to be. Okay, break down the word leap. I know some of your sayings on this, some of your writings on this, some of your thinking on this, which I think is really brilliant. Break down the word leap and what that means to you. It's a good question. So I used to think of a leap as a big jump, if you will. And now I'm thinking about it as no matter what jump you actually want to create for yourself, whether you need a new job, whether you need a promotion, whether you want to jump to a new industry, whether you want to jump to entrepreneurship, no matter what you want, that's a leap. But the beautiful thing is when you know how to create this habit of leaping, it's an art. It's not a science, but you need, again, to just get clear of what you want, adjust your story, adjust your brand, know how to create your network to become your ambassadors. And then you start doing these mini leaps again and again and again. And now you start basically just ticking the boxes. Like, I want to try to be on a board. Great. This is what I need to do. I want to try to do some public speaking. That's what I need to do. I want to do some coaching. That's what I need to do. Right. And you just do it again and again. And again, every single time, you're just going to build even more of your brand. You're going to learn to charge your worth, right, and negotiate a little more. And now you just stand on the shoulders of what you achieved and aim higher. And Tim, you know, it's interesting because that's exactly what made Leap Academy as one of the fastest growing private companies in America for two years in a row and made our podcast so successful. And you've been on our podcast and it was incredible. And right. Because, again, the reason why we were able to reach leaders in this caliber is because of this art of leaping again, again, again and again. It's a beautiful place to see people start. Okay, let's go there for a minute because your podcast is fantastic and I am a viewer of your podcast and a listener. So tell us why you decided to do a podcast and yours is doing so well and we work with the same group. Why you decided to do your podcast in the midst of all the things that you doing Because you very very busy Why did you decide to do your podcast Yeah and thank you for being on the show Tim It was an incredible episode. And yeah, so for me, it was important to start bringing stories from some of the biggest leaders of our time into the Leap Academy with Ilana Golan podcast and to share their stories and the real stories that are usually not shared anywhere. It's their challenges. It's their own darkest moments. It's their own learning. It's their own tips. And it's usually things that you won't find on social media. You won't find in typical areas because they're usually going to share the success stories. They're not going to necessarily share the exact tips and their exact pivots and what it actually takes to build their career. and for me to have that kind of a blueprint, it's the best MBA possible, it's just free. So I can't think of a better way to learn from somebody else's steps as listening to some of these biggest leaders, like all the founders of Wikipedia and Airbnb and Zillow and whatever, and like all the president of Starbucks, et cetera. It's like, how do you take people that have built such incredible companies and incredible careers and you start distilling exactly what were the steps that they took so that you can take your own version of it. And that to me is just part of Leap Academy, right? For me, it's about teaching people how to leap, right? And that's teaching people about how some of the most successful people in the world have lived. All I know is you do book amazing guests. You get the biggest of the big in all these different groups, and you do a great job interviewing them. So tell us what your native language is, the language you were raised to speak. What is it? It's called Hebrew from Israel. If you don't mind, I want you to answer a question in your language, okay? Okay. But only give me a short answer. Only a short answer. I have problems. Not long. Okay. Okay. So if somebody is having a challenge in life and they are starting to feel like they want to give up, you've already given some steps. but give me one more reason why they should not. Give me one more reason in your language and then we'll go back to English that they should not give up. Shalom, first of all. Al tarrimu yadayim ki yiee arbeto tov acheseh. That's it. Okay, that was powerful. I felt it even though I didn't understand it. I can translate it if you want. You said peace, first of all. Shalom. Exactly. And then you said? I basically said, don't give up because it will get better at the other side. And I think just knowing, knowing that it's going to be okay, that's what most of us need. Because one of the things that I realized, it's incredibly hard to speak about anything from the wound, but it's a lot easier from the scars. if you're bleeding and it's wounding right now, please know that it's going to scar and you will be able to continue. Listen, you see how we bring the best out of each other? Yes, we do. We do. That was very, very good. That did something to me right there. Because we've all been through things, I call them life interruptions, where you're just going through life and things are well, and then something could happen with someone in your family or something at your job or with your health. These are interruptions we did not order. We did not think they were coming, right? And you have given us steps to deal with them and to go forward. Okay, so if someone wants to find out more about Leap Academy, where's the best way to find out? Oh, leapacademy.com. We have a free training, so it's slash training. And we have free trainings. We have free assessments. and Tim will probably give you specifically something for your audience so that you can give them even something more special because I love what you're doing. I love how you help people turn themselves around. And that is such an incredibly powerful thing. And yeah, that would be a little gift for you, Tim, and for your audience, because again, if they're listening in, they should share it. And thank you for doing what you do, because in the midst of all your busyness and all the things that you're up to, your podcast, your speaking, running companies, investing in companies, Leap Academy is just something of its own. It's its own community that's so amazing, so dynamic. I think you noticed that I was standing around talking to people for a long time. There's so many interesting stories that are coming out of there, so many interesting people and it's wonderful. Okay. So I'm going to ask you one last question, if you don't mind. When you think about this stage of your life, the stage of your life, not so much an age, because I see life kind of like a stage that I'm in. This stage of your life, do you find yourself where you are living at peace, rest? Are you feeling familiar with your assignment now? because when we're younger, we're trying to find ourself. But at this stage of your life, what kind of feelings are you going through? Oh, it's a great question, Tim. So first of all, I think it's an incredible feeling that I found my calling. And I think it just creates this insane peace with yourself. Because yes, of course, as a driven person, you always want things to, you're an impatient creature by definition. And, you know, you always want things to go faster and bigger and better and whatever. But the amounts of peace that I have in what I created. And thank you. Thank you, Ilana, for changing my life and for all the recognitions that we get and all the, you know, I do feel that it's an incredible feeling. And I don't remember who said that. There's a saying that if you don't like change, you're going to hate feeling irrelevant. and I think the fear of feeling irrelevant the fear of regret for me is a huge pull it pushes me to the max and I think that feeling of this is my calling this is what I want to spread my wings this has been for the past five six years this has been the biggest thing I've ever done and now that I can see tens of millions of people that will need to reinvent themselves like I'm as hungry as it gets to get to as many people as we can. And I think just realizing that you're in the right place is everything. And I will just say, if somebody is listening to this and they're wondering, but how do I get to that? Again, first of all, just know that if I could do it, everybody could do it, but it's really more about experimentation. And it's really more about just learning to take those small imperfect steps every single day, because done is better than perfect. And if you're to start creating that momentum, things will just fall into place. And it's just clarity comes from action, not just thinking about it. So if you know how to do it, it's just incredible, incredible journey. And I want a lot more people to feel that peace. No, so good. And I love what you said, because we were never created to be irrelevant. There's actually a verse in the Bible that talks about that you're never called to live in the shadows. Nobody wants to live in the shadows. So I love your answer. Okay, best way to watch your podcast would be what? Leap Academy with Ilana Golan on any podcast or on YouTube, any platform really. Just search for Leap Academy with Ilana Golan. Okay, so I want to thank you for being an example to men, women, children. Thank you for being dynamic, full of love and compassion. I know that about you. For loving the underdog and loving people who have been challenged, that want to change, and people who have leaped before, but they want to leap again. And you are teaching them to continue to make those steps and those strides. And I'm excited about your present, but I'm also excited about your future. Thank you, Ilana, for being on today. Oh, thank you, Tim. And we have a long future ahead of us together, and I know that. So I'm very much looking forward to it and looking forward to every single human listening to this podcast and just leaning in to become their best self. I love it. So thank you all for listening today to The Miracle Mentality. I love where Ilana took us today about really it's about not being a discount version of yourself, about shaking yourself and doing something different, realigning yourself once again, being adaptable, being adjustable, being somebody that's willing to mold and shift yourself. So beautiful words. Make sure and follow her. What she's doing for this world is fantastic. So thank you for watching Miracle Mentality. Don't forget to subscribe, to like, and to continue to share. Life is still good. Thank you for sharing space with me on this episode of Miracle Mentality with Tim Story. If today sparked your courage or helped you understand why you're created for success, I invite you to carry that miracle mentality forward. Visit me at timstory.com. That story with an E-Y on the end. Until next time, walk by faith, embrace possibility, and create your own comeback story.