RORY SCOVEL Did Mushrooms in the Grand Canyon

Hey, everybody. It's just Pashy this morning. Sufi is away. He's off because of the Olympics. And NBC has the Olympics. And so he always gets some time every couple of years. And he's doing some traveling, doing a little bit of work, and then he's going to go on a family trip that I'm sure we will hear about upon his return. Um, so I just wrote some things down to talk about because I got to fill a little bit of time here. But the Olympics, I will say I'm a huge fan of the Olympics. Um, when the opening ceremonies were on, I was bummed because I had plans that Friday night. And then I was at home and I realized that they were on at 11 in the morning. And man, oh man, I just, that whole day was gone for me because I started watching the opening ceremonies and I couldn't stop. I think you might know this about me. I'm a pretty emotional person when it comes to performance and art. And I cried no fewer than five times at those opening ceremonies. If you haven't seen them and if that's the kind of thing you're into, I highly recommend them. There's also some good things to chuckle at. It wasn't 100% things that were going to make me cry, but it's been great. And I just love the Olympics in general. I just shot an episode for my other California Now podcast where we went up to Mammoth and we did a day on the mountain and we did an afternoon at the cross-country ski facility out there, the Tamarack Cross-Country Ski Center. And my guide was this ultramarathoner, this gal, Olivia Amber. She runs for the North Face and she was talking to me about Jesse Diggins. And I find that storyline fascinating. I also was pretty good at cross-country skiing, I will say. But at one point we were getting a shot and I told sort of my guide, Olivia, I was like, why don't you go first and you go as fast as you can and I'll just come after you. And then that'll give a sense of of how much better you are. And I can't even describe how fast she was so far ahead of me to a point where our director said, well, can we do that again? But Olivia, you kind of look like a jerk because you didn't wait for Josh. But it was it was all on me. And it was also proof of you can you can be much better than me at cross country skiing. um we my wife and i woke up on super bowl sunday and watched the lindsey vaughn race um which unfortunately you know she had that big crash and uh broke her leg and we hope obviously she's okay but uh i had checked uh the new york times app in the morning just to look at the news in bed and scroll down and saw a headline that says lindsey von crashes but i didn't want to give that up to my wife uh mckenzie because we were going to watch it together and she was very interested in it and so we watched it and we had breakfast and um you know she crashes and mckenzie was really was like oh my god and was you know sort of shook from it and then we went to a super bowl party later in the afternoon and we were talking about it and mackenzie was like i knew actually that she had crashed and i also knew that she'd crashed but we didn't tell each other that we knew because we wanted we didn't want to spoil it for the other person but it was a very uh charming thing to know that we would both uh withhold our knowledge and really play it up but we sat there with our sunday morning pancakes and acted like we knew nothing um but obviously we hope lindsey vaughn is okay and uh just what an amazing career and that's also just one of the best events at the olympics um and then also at the super bowl party we have my buddy robbie benedict printed out these like sort of fan duel sheets of these prop bets that everyone that was there filled in. And I would say that in the future, if you're at a party where they have these things, you should ask them to shred those papers. Because the number of times during the game, people were talking about this stupid pool that meant nothing was so tedious through the entire Bad Bunny halftime show. There was a prop bet that said, is he going to do more than 11 and a half songs or less than 11 and a half songs? And the number of times people were like, oh, is that six? Yeah, yeah, that's six. He's up to six. It's the worst. We were also, we were playing for no money. We were playing for no pride. Like, I won and it means nothing. So just enjoy the game. in the future. That's what I'm going to propose. Yeah. And I really dug Bad Bunny as well. I don't know. Some people seem mad at it. I thought it was pretty fun. We have Rory Scovel on the show today. Big fan of this guy. Great stand-up. He's done a lot of improvised stand-up that I've watched some of online, which is just that would make me so nervous. And apparently it makes him very nervous as well. And I get it. This is also an episode where you will hear Seth ask a lot of questions about stand-up. And he's not asking questions about trips because he's Seth. And he's selfish. And he wants to know more about stand-up because he does stand-up than he does about family trips, which is what this show is supposed to be about. So you'll hear me trying to pull it back. And then you'll hear Seth talking more about, I don't know, who opens for you. It's a different show. It's a different show. But I'm trying, everybody. I'm trying. And here I am alone, just pulling this cart. but uh rory's great and seth's great and i hope he's having wonderful travels i'm not traveling right now i'm just here i'm here for you but please enjoy this show and sufi will be back next week family chips with the mice brothers family chips The man is good Here we go Oh, man. Hey, pal. Somebody's starting his own podcast because he has equipment. Guys, look at my setup. Look at that setup. What is that? Is that a two-prong outlet you got going on behind you? I got a two-prong going right there, as you can see. We're not quite at the level of needing both of those, but we're going to get there. Once we have enough listeners, we're going to get something to plug in. Rory, I had something happen this weekend that was thrilling for me. Oh. Which is my parents were visiting, and my dad, in particular, is a real stand-up comedian fan, listens to a lot of whatever the Netflix comedy radio is. He's like that guy. Oh, sure. And he's always telling me comedians that he thinks are good like I've never heard of them, and I always have. with that said right you came up and i was playing on i was i went to your instagram and i was playing an instagram reel and my nine-year-old who was like on an ipad in the corner never has done this he's like who's that nice and he was in and so we had a real nice i mean i will say like i i had to like watch him a couple times because you have a few in your last special not for children i was like oh you were i think it was on fallon that you did the texting while driving yeah so i was like oh right like he's got appearance he's got late night network appearances where it'll be safer and uh but he was he was in on it like everything about your vibe he was just like digging nice that's so great how old is your you have a daughter i do 10 and a half oh yeah so right he's like i got a nine and a half or so yeah we're only kids said uh that the halves i well i think that's why i say it because i've heard them say it so many times and like with great like just great offense when you get it wrong when you don't give him credit for the half yeah it's funny how that goes away because i people are like how old are you i'm like 45 just freshly freshly into it barely 44 don't ask me about it i have no take on it yet it's i'm so new to it i'm so new to 45 i mean we might as well just still say 44 i don't even know what i'm doing there yet um and you uh you grew up in south carolina that's right greenville love it and a lot of siblings for you yeah yeah one of seven one of seven where did you where did you fall on those seven so i'm second second oldest and then the five after me are half siblings we have a different mother uh are my older sister and i share uh the same uh parents and then uh Yeah, my dad had seven kids. I know the Gaffigan joke where he just says Catholic at the end of that, but that joke is so accurate. Seven kids, Catholic. Are you close with your sister, your older sister? I think I'm close in a way with all of them. But yeah, I feel like there is some sort of kind of bond that you do have in a situation like that with just having the shared parents. But yeah, it was our mother passed away when we were very young. So it's there's never been a time where I looked at the other siblings like felt didn't feel like it was like a full kind of relationship. I don't know why I'd use the word relationship. We can only have half a relationship. It's a one way street. What was the gap between you and the next kid? I think it's eight, eight years. Oh, wow. Seven or eight years. Yeah, yeah, yeah. um and then my youngest brother is uh it's an 18 year gap wow so i am essentially a weird uncle yeah were you and uh your full sister were they uh were you guys like babysitters to those kids because you were for sure oh so much so much changing diapers watching kids taking care of kids uh for so much of my middle school high school life did you hate it or did you not know you could hate it i i think i loved it yeah because i think i am so playful that i think my maturity was like even now i don't know that i've fully matured into anyway but i just had like uh i liked it i liked playing with kids i liked just being at the house and and that but you as you get into high school you're like oh man i want to go out and see what's going on on that side of the curtain and you know we would babysit a lot and kind of it's not like i didn't go out but i felt even more like uh when i would go out with people i was just like oh i'm a guy that just went from playing hide and go seek in my house with my younger siblings to now drinking at a party and i was like i am not both of these people that is funny like i can imagine like my kids if my nine-year-old had a if we had a baby now i bet he would actually like it yeah whereas i think it's like you're right like 16 is when you're like what what do you want me to do i know you're like what is this job i say this is someone who like doesn't like it you know what i mean like this adult and like made the choice but like even our you know because our daughter who's four is like she's the one who's like i want she is desperate to have a younger sibling and i'm like yeah it's not all that it's right a lot of work it's a lot it's a lot yeah my daughter was like you guys should have another kid even now asked at 10 and a half i'm like you have no idea this gap like you would not know each other at all you would not even look at each other yeah do you uh does she does your daughter know what you do and have any sense of uh what it looks like on stage yeah it's kind of that's it that's why this is kind of a fun age because I can reveal that to an extent a little bit more and more. But my daughter is very into acting and is going to be going to a theater program school. My wife is incredible at theater. And so my kid just kind of naturally has that interest because of us. And so I think now my daughter, when I say, hey, I'm in something or look at, I can show you something on TV that I'm a part of. I think it's now a little bit more like, oh, that's actually kind of cool because I sort of do that. The standup side of it, I think kids at school have YouTubed me, which is wildly inappropriate. The school told us that they put my name on something where kids can't Google it to see what I talk about. But I think because other kids have said something, and my daughter has seen other parents talk to me. And I think every now and then when you get noticed or approached by someone who's a fan, I think that's starting to become interesting to my daughter now, whereas before it meant nothing. It was just two adults talking. But now it's like, oh, this stranger knows my dad from his comedy. And I think it's now becoming kind of cool. I think I don't want to butcher the joke, but I think it's for me last special because I showed it to my son this weekend about how you have a kid but you're still not sure that you want to be a parent yeah yeah yeah yeah still not entirely still not on fully on board yeah yeah but my son watched that and he had this moment he's like wow that's gonna be weird for his kid to watch and i'm like oh buddy you haven't seen my stuff like oh you just as a caveat i love you just know yeah i love you well i'm like using to you as the avatar i'm like yeah i know rory he loves his kid you would never these are just jokes yeah just so you understand us comedians do that we sort of exist in a fictional space based on non-fictional material um yeah i think i was in burlington uh vermont this summer and my daughter was with me and we i went to the comedy club to do just a little guest spot and uh they were with me and i was like you know i'm gonna keep it clean do you want to sit in the green room Would you like to go sit out in the show? I'm only going to be up there 10 minutes and then we can leave. And that was the first time my kids saw what I do. And I just kind of made fun of local stuff and, you know, thought of a couple of jokes that maybe kind of incorporate, you know, them into the show and loved it. They loved it. They thought it was cool. They're like, they really thought you were funny. And I was like, this is what I do. This is the only job I actually confidently understand. We, Josh and I, uh, did, uh, cause we used to do work for this improv theater in Amsterdam. We were back there this summer and I brought my son to take him to Amsterdam and he came to his first improv show. And I just was having the thing of just, I knew where he was in the audience and he looked, at times he looked bored. And then though late in the show, he yelled out a suggestion and I was, it was the happiest. I was over the moon. Yeah. I was engaging in the, uh, the improv show. What was his takeaway at the end of it? Was he like fully understood what it was? And do you think he fully understood your key? He fully understood. He's a little bit of a narc on society. And so he had a lot of like, I think it was too dirty for me. Like he was, I'm like, okay, man. Like instead of enjoying like that, he was somewhere where people were like throwing around F-bombs. He's like, I don't know if I should have been here. But it was, there were so many people at this reunion who brought their kids back. And like, you know, Ike Barinholtz's three daughters were there and our friend Jill Benjamin, her two kids were there. And it was, I think, for a lot of them, like just seeing their parents do something that their parents used to do. Yeah. Like and like coming up and it was just watching those kids expressions was one of the best things about that show. Yeah, totally. I I try to say to my kid what the first time I ever showed my daughter like something that I was in, like a trailer or something. And I was like, that's me. that's your dad and my daughter was like yeah great and i was like my dad worked at the post office this is absurd to me i can't believe i'm in this that's so funny that like we're we're getting choked up on there but like pretending it's them yes like this is crazy right yeah right aren't you so proud of my accomplishments it is uh it is very funny when you realize like oh right it's not their job to be proud of you and it's been their whole reality there's nothing weird about your job there's like yeah sure that's that's an attainable occupation you're like it's not it's not an attainable occupation it's actually very difficult it's absurd that i made it this far hey we're gonna take a quick break and hear from some of our sponsors Support comes from Mill. You know the moment you open the trash and get hit with the smell. It's mostly food waste. Scraps, scary old leftovers, melting lettuce. 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You could be traveling with family, looking to discover authentic and local experiences. Did you, I would imagine, so seven kids, like, were you guys going on vacations anywhere? Can you even fit that many Scovels in a car? You can. You know, the age gap was big enough to where there was never, like, that's another thing about my younger brother, we never lived at home together ever. There's a picture of me in my dorm room freshman year holding him, who's essentially a newborn one-year-old, I don't know, but a baby. So there was never traveling together like that. But I do feel like there was five of us for sure. My older sister had already gone off to college. And when I was still at home, my youngest sister had been born. But we did the minivan life. We did that seven seater captain seats there was a time when you could get the tiny tv plugged into the lighter to watch disney vhs tapes and that took that took us to a whole new yeah we were like this is how the other side lives this is it where were you driving where were you guys rolling to my uh well we'd either go to Myrtle Beach, my dad's favorite beach, Myrtle Beach. We would go there for a week every summer, almost every summer. I'm almost certain, but a five-hour drive. Or we'd go see my grandparents and my aunt in Panama City Beach, Destin, Florida, Panama City Beach area. And that was like an eight-hour drive. Why did your dad like Myrtle more than Destin? Was it just that Myrtle was closer? He thought the waves were bigger. Really? He would body surf. He liked catching waves body surfing our father loves i just get a little more adrenaline a little more dopamine kick from the myrtle myrtle beach waves than the gulf of mexico the gulf of mexico just didn't cut it for my dad i had a i was talking to a grandfather of uh my son's friend on the beach last summer and he was talking about body surfing and like how it's like he goes it's the only thing i do now which makes me feel like a kid and i was like oh shit this is like this is like a lot this is like a movie scene now right like he was like genuinely explaining i was like oh wow okay i'm sorry i was kind of drifting off but that's a great point you were yeah he was crying you're like oh oh wow he was crying because he was like aren't you and then he said aren't you proud of me and i'm like yeah it's crazy at my age i could break anything was your dad doing like multiple hour sessions in the ocean. So my dad's, this is something now, my dad passed away in 2020, and this is something I now reflect on that I thought was, I don't even know, as a kid I think I thought this was cool and weird at the same time. My dad loved the beach so much that he would have a cooler, and this is like 8, 8 a.m. He's down there. He's not waiting for the family to get ready to join him at the beach. He's at the beach. in a chair yeah meet me there whenever you're coming down i'm not waiting uh in a chair walkman uh cassette player uh little handheld cassette player walkman uh old school headphones cooler and we just sit listening to you know light light jazz light smooth jazz or he'd be into some Michael McDonald or literally anything Yacht Rock. Yeah. And just staring at the water. And then for whatever reason, he would just sometimes get up, take that stuff off, go catch some waves, stand there for a little bit, come back, sit in his chair, put his thing on. And this was his vacation for five straight days. That's all he did. He got so sunburned. Every picture we have, he's just got his sunglasses fully protected the tone of his skin color around his eyes. I want to say that I have a deep jealousy of people who can have that attainable peace. Yes. I kind of always like, you know, I talk shit about the beach all the time because I don't like it. But like, I want to like it. Yeah. You know what I mean? I wish I could be that happy and at 8 a.m. want to go someplace that I would be peaceful and happy for the whole day. I would love it. I am the same way. I never really liked it. The sand, I didn't like what it did to your skin. I was terrified of the sun just burning our bodies. I didn't care much about the ocean. It honestly kind of scared me. If it even slightly was pulling me, I was like, I'm dead. This is it. I'm going to die. i am i but i but like you just said i also am like god i want to i want to like it i a lot of people clearly do but if someone's like do you want to go into a mountain lake or go to the caribbean i'm like no i want to go to the mountain lakes and i almost if you told me it's going to rain the whole time i'm not even i still would probably choose mountain lake i prefer mountain lake as well that sounds nicer to me yeah do you would he keep his headphones on was it was it something where you could talk to him if you wanted to and he'd take him off or was it like, hey, I'm off. I'm in this world now. The visual example I can give to you is that if you had just said something to me, my dad would go, what? Yeah, yeah. Three o'clock sounds great. And then right back. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Zero wanting to have a conversation. He's like, I work at the post office, guys. I'm here for five days at this beach. Do not even look at me. Would he want to teach you sort of body surfing technique? He was great. He was going out into the water. That was your opportunity to go hang out. And he would show you how to catch waves and hang out in the ocean. And he'd be out there a while. He wasn't like in and out. But that was fun. When we were kids, he would do the thing where he grabbed your hands and like spun around as the waves are coming in. And then eventually he lets you go and you just fling off into the water, which was great. I have fond memories of that. Also being terrified. I would say this might be the best example of my childhood and growing up with Josh as my brother. I remember once being at a beach, and it was freezing cold New England water, and I didn't want to go in. My dad picked me up and dragged me and just threw me in the water. Then I said, are you going to throw Josh in the water now? He said, no, because he would cry, and the day would be ruined. And it's like Josh is like terrorizing the family into just like doing whatever his like wishes were. You know, I'm getting chucked in the ocean. I also like that it was kind of to serve no purpose. It was like, all right, Seth, come on, let's go. You know what this is. You know what makes me happy. I think it was like someone's going. We didn't come all the way for no one to go in the ocean. So someone's going. That's the other element about the ocean. someone just has to go in because you've made some great sacrifice to get there yeah that's well you can't not go in were you guys walking distance from the beach would you stay at a place where you could like to stroll down yeah we always stayed at like the beachfront like condominiums that you rent for i don't even know what that was i reflect back on it how we rent stuff now and how i could literally go online and and rent you know a place and go through several options i remember back then you had to make phone calls you had like the mail was involved to like get a receipt for a check that you sent to like reserve a thing like the slow pace of that seems so absurd it also seems wildly delightful yeah like like time would slow down somehow we in the late 90s is when josh and i you know moved over to amsterdam and our parents would like it was a big deal where my mom would like send letters to find you know like calls and like but there was a mouth i remember And then she'd be excited because she'd get a letter with a weird stamp on it. Words that she doesn't understand. We were just – I remember we would go to a ski place in Michigan, just sort of like at a tiny little more of a hill than a mountain, and stayed a really nondescript condo. And it was so exciting pulling up to a house that wasn't ours, that had like nothing inside it. And it was just I just remember like this. Wait, this place with a door. We have the key to a door that's not ours. Right. And it's not just like a hotel room. It has like a kitchen. We have like our bedrooms. There's a dining room. Yeah. Mom got chips. Yeah. That's the other element about those vacations is that the grocery, the rules of grocery shopping are out the window. Yeah. It's all just endorphins. what was in your dad's cooler was your dad like breakfast beers or never beer my dad was like wine coolers yeah uh he loved the sugary wine coolers but he also would go he'd go hard on rum where you were just like oh this is that proof that i can't even fathom like it's too like rum for the most part feels so g-rated as a liquor yeah until you go hard on it and you're like oh god oh oh my god this is too much this is way too much um that's what i mean and i think that was i mean he liked that anyways but being at the beach it was like added to it that was his that was his jam he loved it it's a real time in a place kind of liquor and i feel like a beach is well guess what though i took i went out to dinner uh this weekend with my three kids and uh our parents and uh dad weekend freezing cold new england night dad got a rum and coke i've literally never heard him order a rum yeah that's and i was just you know it's one of those things i'm like okay is this i guess this is what we're doing now yeah is it is he like in that phase where he's like i'm doing rum and cokes that i feel like maybe like somebody maybe he was somewhere he's also like if if he has a good experience with something he'll ride it pretty hard until like the wheels come off yeah but he's not a big drinker he's not he's not a big in general um yeah but he'll like have a cocktail my mom our mom respects alcohol more than soda so it might be the way he gets his coke like if he ordered a coke she'd think that's like he's just a bitch yeah and she'd probably tell him and yeah spice it up a little bit i feel like i'm a little bit like that with old fashions i mean once i started drinking old fashions now i'm i'm deep in it like if i'm getting a cocktail i'm getting that or a paper plane paper plane's a great example of my rum and coke yeah i'm on i'm on board till the wheels come off for paper plane i would say those are uh perfectly uh matched as a summer and winter cocktail combination yeah yeah yeah a paper plane is a great uh hey it's a summer afternoon let's get a paper plane i love a freezing New England night and your dad's like, give me a margarita, half salt, half salt, in case halfway through I don't want salt. What would make Panama City Beach sort of leapfrog Myrtle Beach? Was that just like... Yeah, family. That was just family. Yeah. My grandparents moved from Greenville to Destin, Florida, and so we would go see them. And my aunt was a basketball coach in Panama City Beach. Shout out to my aunt, Rooney Scovel, who is in the Women's Basketball Hall of Fame. All right. Coaching has her jersey retired at the University of Florida. Badass basketball coach. So she coached at the university there, the community college there. She was a JUCO. And we would go visit. We would go hang out at Panama City Beach. You know, that was fun because Panama City Beach is very Myrtle Beach-esque in that redneck Riviera kind of vibe that it knows how to provide. And also going on like rides go to the pavilion go to the amusement park Most i would say like uh thick thick with t vendors highest capacity like uh yeah what would you say like did you guys ever do the t like where they take the photo of you this is 80s this is they take the photo of you and then it's like 3d scanned lines a picture of you that they could put onto a t-shirt or even like a little flag it i I kind of wish that was my merch, like a mock-up of that style T-shirt. But we would get one of those every summer when we got to Myrtle Beach. We'd go to the amusement park, sit down in the thing, get the photo taken. That would then take so long. But then you'd wear a shirt of your own picture. And then you'd have a shirt where it's like, it's me and my sister. I mean, I think the first time I was covetous of going to the Caribbean, which was not a place we went, and certainly our early youth was people like kids coming back to school with a hard rock cafe t-shirt where it said literally just set a place underneath it and that was like the most exotic that was like a child's passport stamp of like yeah yeah yeah i had that in high school with ski trips after the christmas break kids were coming back with their winter coats with the ski tag on the zipper and i didn't understand that i didn't understand skiing i i skied for the first time like two or three years ago and i remember being i just covetous of it but also just like fuck these like these these ski tags who do these people think they are i will never be like that skied one time three years ago i was like i get it it's fun yeah i get it you have a drink after you sit by the fire you're how'd you do out there yeah i did all right i took uh i started with snowboarding And so I snowboarded, took a lesson, and we were there for about four days of skiing out here, out at Beaver Creek in Colorado. And it was fantastic. I loved it. The next year, I decided to try skiing so I could know which I liked more. And I think I leaned skiing. I actually can confidently stop with skiing. Snowboarding, I'm like – I mean, both of them, I honestly think I'm just days away from a horrible injury. Right. And the moment we get off the ski lift, I'm like, if it could just be the chairlift, that was so peaceful. Yeah. I would do that. If that was an ongoing loop and you could just get off at the next exit, that would be great. Were people putting the safety bar down on the chairlift when you were there? That was me. I was like, guys, let's play by the rules. I'm so pro safety bar, and I've skied my whole life. Like, I don't think I'm falling off, but I can't stand this like new cool thing of like, no, let's not put the safety bar down. It's like to what end? Yeah, my wife and I were skiing while my daughter was taking a class. And so we were like getting onto the chairlift and my daughter was a part of a class. And we go, oh, there's Elliot right there. And we like yell out, we wave, we're in line. And we watched them take off, and the guy just wasn't able to get their guard thing down in time. And we're a few chairs behind them, and my wife is like, they'll be fine. And I'm just staring straight ahead. And I'm like, okay, if they drop, am I able to do what I think I can athletically do? Can I drop out of my chairlift to help my child? Living in terror watching them. I, by the way, forget about the bar because I go skiing with my boys and I, they like go ski with the class and then we'll ski with for an hour. When I'm on a chairlift with them and the chairlift bar is down, I, they, I like still want to like put my arms and like hold the back. And they're like, get off of us. Yes. Because they're like, we've been skiing all day. Like we know we ride up without adults. And I'm like, I'm just not enjoying it. like you let's just let's go ski different then i'll ski alone you ski alone but like i can't watch you because it's just that i'm like i can't do you understand i can't be on the chair you fall off i know i know it's it's just bad optics it's not for their safety it's just the optics there was that movie you probably saw josh there was like a horror movie about like people get stuck on a chairlift like the entirety of the movie is like uh they try to take they take one more ride and then like the whole like lift shuts down and the whole mountain shuts down yeah i that's when you look it up they're like their budget was four hundred dollars and uh and they and the uh people who made the movie still say they lost money they won't yeah bonuses right we were able to get 300 tickets uh 300 made back did your uh did Does your family stay in Greenville? Is that where your parents are? Yeah, my older sister lives just outside of D.C., and then my sister just after me lives in Seattle. And then the rest of my siblings, the other four, are still in Greenville. Yeah, my stepmom lives in Greenville. I've got aunts and uncles and cousins who live in Greenville, and I have some aunts who still live in Panama City Beach. My dad's three sisters all live in Panama City Beach. would the greenville contingent uh get together uh when you live there would there be sort of big you know picnics or reunions or anything like that yeah when we when we come to town we try to do something we did like a thanksgiving where we got like an airbnb and we tried to host like a big uh get everybody out of their houses and make it feel like we all went on a trip even though technically it's a staycation for them um and do like thanksgiving we do we try to do that when we when we come to town and make like a thing of it um does your daughter have a ton of cousins based on your sibling situation um six i think six total cousins uh no six seven eight nine so three on my wife's side and then six on my family's side yeah and their age ranges are all over the place so it's it's kind of great because my daughter kind of falls right into the middle of like the older kids and the younger kids where is your wife from she grew up in uh las vegas she moved around a lot as a kid but they landed in las vegas when she was in high school and so her parents still stay there still live there and uh yeah that's her that's her home base which is absurd when you tell anybody yeah that because most people are just like people live in las vegas and i'm like i know what you mean i know like of course they do but i know why you would ask that question right yeah yeah like not everybody who works there flies in every morning exactly yeah yeah yeah um do you guys go to visit then yeah we'll sometimes go on vacation too we haven't been in a in a while but we would go out and and it's very suburbia vegas which is such a different flavor of uh vegas i'm not i'm already like not so crazy about the strip so you can imagine how exciting it is to go into a neighborhood where all the homes look basically the same it's very cool very very tim burton um but we uh yeah we we would go and there'd always be a night where my wife and i who had no interest in going to the strip would be like do we think uh your parents maybe watch elliot and we go to the strip just to do anything else that's different i was gonna say Do you feel the pull of the strip, even if there's someone who doesn't love the strip? You always feel it just to go do something else. Do we just go look at the sphere externally for an hour? You must have done shows in Vegas. I have done a festival in Vegas, but I haven't really gone through to do the clubs or anything ever. I just don't see it being satisfying or financially. you know i did that there's like this uh mgm i used to go like the terry fator theater i can't yes it's a good theater fader it's good theater it's like very good it's like good sound and like it is to know with that weird thing of like any casino show where you realize like some people are there because they're fans some people are there because they've heard your name yep and then some people are just there because they were given free tickets yeah and they are and you are a show they're there the same reason you go to see the strip I did open for Daniel Tosh one weekend and that was great that was like the most ideal get on the jet land in Vegas check into your room do the show hang out that night hang out the next day do that show and as soon as that show was done 10 minutes before he got off stage they already had me in the car they're like he's gonna sprint to the car you guys will be wheels up in that plane before the last people have left this theater and my god that was so true it was the fastest and i was like oh if this was how i played vegas i would do this you know right all that i would do whatever that contract is people have where they play vegas you know once a month or whatever it is that's like why barry manilow is like living in palm springs and just flying and doing shows and back to palm springs yeah exactly yeah super easy breezy he probably doesn't know about the suburb your your uh wife's family lives in or else he'd probably do that yeah oh my god a hundred percent he would love it hey we're gonna take a quick break and hear from some of our sponsors support comes from marley spoon every year i tell myself i'll get better about meal planning and every year life gets busy and it all falls apart what finally clicked for me is realizing that meals don't have to look one specific way. 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That's drinkag1.com slash trips. drinkag1.com slash trips. just because you have that traveling life are you touring now are you on the road a lot now yeah on the road now for this current tour this new hour that i'm doing that started like mid october that's going to go to like mid april trying to hit up as many many spots as possible and see what happens i i always like to ask a touring stand-up are you the kind of person who takes advantage of the places you visit or do you just sort of stay in a hotel room all day I will tell you what, that's a great question. Prior to COVID, I was very reclusive. I didn't want to do anything. I was just in my hotel room. I think I had a certain sort of nervous energy towards the show, and so it was kind of like in my head. then when COVID took stand-up away something I didn't think was even a possible outcome I was living in a new reality I was like oh my god this job goes away then when I started going on the road again I now make at minimum I'm going to find a coffee shop I'm very snobbish about my coffee so I will find a coffee shop that I can enjoy the coffee but also sit in for an hour or two I will look up art museums. I want to go see as many paintings, if there's galleries that are worth it, I want to go check them out. But mostly any kind of art museum I can go check out, I'll go check out. But I'll do anything. If I have the time, I'm like, let's go to the restaurant, people say, to go to, because what else are we doing? I'll now go to bookstores. Even if I'm not buying anything, I'll just peruse. i think it's a good thing too because i'm i have that same anxious energy on a show night and i do believe it's probably better for the show to not sit in a room and think about it all day yes yes just go out actually like to actually like engage with like other non-stand-up art is probably like just good for your brain yeah yeah i also find it's like i don't know i think that's why the green room is so important that's why i think it matters who you tour with uh all of that is stretching. I mean, you know it too from not just stand-up, but from improv too. You're like, if we're in the green room, even though we're conversing and just having fun, this is all part of getting us into that space before we go out there. And to me, with stand-up, you're doing it all day. Also, I will gladly do as many local anything I can think of to open the show. I love it i love trying to improvise any amount of local just whatever yeah um and and you know that's how you get there is if you're like all right let me go out let me hear what people are saying what was your what was your special that was just where you improvised the entire we did i did one in atlanta back in 2018 because i always wanted to just go with no material and see what happens so So this venue, Relapse Theater, let me do six shows, and we just did super cheap tickets. I honestly thought it was just going to be a bomb. I thought it was just going to be an experiment. And I told my buddy Jay Larson about it, and he was like, oh, you should film that. He's like, that's a documentary. He goes, that's really fun. So we got some money from Absolutely, and then we shot it for a documentary. My buddy came and directed it, and we did the six shows. And I got addicted to it. I was like, man, I really want to lean into this. I want to figure out how to do this. And so I did 10 last January, a year ago, in Brooklyn at Union Hall. We did 10 in a row. And we filmed all those. And we're going to drop those. But that was like, that's now, you know, whatever, seven years later, was eye-opening. It was so much fun. And it's not to, like, do crowd work. It's literally just to keep talking as though this is the act. And it's so much fun. It's so much fun to do. Well, I think I didn't really – and I asked you, was there a bit with like a cape? You're wearing a cape. Yeah, yeah. There was one of the shows. It was the Thursday night show. It's maybe one of my favorite shows I've ever done. It was like that. We had done Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday, and the Thursday night show was the revelation of like, oh, I have no material. I'm just up here, and the material is only derived from the amount of fun and that kind of – whatever that energy is I can exude. That's where the material comes from, and I just grabbed – it was lightly attentive. One of the tablecloths was on a table, and I just started messing around with it. I was like, do you think everyone – everyone was like, I'm going to the tavern. And they put their cape on. And then I told other people to put capes on. I was starting a cult, and people then started putting some of the capes on. My greatest joy is that sometimes people now show up at my shows wearing a red cape like they're in my cult. That's great. And I'm like, oh, my God, I love that so much. it's a dream come true because i loved it and assumed it had been i thought it was material and even as somebody who loves improv i always think like the problem with improv is like if you showed somebody an improv scene they'd be like oh this sucks like i know people liked it when they were in the room but i really i watched it was like oh man that fucking cape it it was so fun that was like the the light bulb going off of what you in improvised stand-up what you how to keep the beach ball in the air kind of thing Is there a difference between people who wear actual capes and purists who will will wear tablecloths as capes because it easy to get a cape on on amazon and uh you know you're not wrong yeah you're not wrong i actually from now on if someone comes up there like look i got the cape i'm like you know get out of here get out of here you don't get red tablecloth cults don't work with like yeah anything goes like yeah you can't half-ass it what cult have you heard about where like it's like oh yeah we're loose it's kool-aid it's not power aid we're not doing powering have you taken a big trip with your daughter have you like uh have you taken her overseas yet yeah we did uh this past october we went to i was over there doing shows and uh my last show was in manchester and so i just took a train down to london and i met them my uh sister-in-law lives in london with uh her uh her daughter and so we went and visited and that was the first time my kid had like traveled like that and it's so i don't know if you guys are like this um as being as you know being entertainers and being in the industry of creating entertainment, but I feel such a massive pressure to make the vacation entertaining, even though I'm also a guest in the space. And I think sometimes it ruins vacations. I get a little too into like, hey, are you enjoying it? I almost don't care if I'm enjoying it. I just want to make sure my wife and my daughter are enjoying it. But London was very much like that. I felt a lot of pressure of like, all right, let's make sure we've got the schedule and we're doing fun things and you know it was great though my kid like loved it we yeah we either i i you know i brought my oldest to him this summer because there was a reunion of sorts at our theater and it was like the amount i'm like are you having but you're having fun right and he's like and because in the time like he was also like a little jet lagged and it was weird but then of course when it's over like the amount he talks about it and loves it and i have to realize like kids don't like they're it's also exhausting for them to keep telling their parents they're having a fun time. Right. Yeah. Yeah. And they also, yeah, they, I think there's, cause they're so good at telling you when they're not having fun that you're almost like, well, can you kind of throw the other side to me every now and then? You should just assume if they're not wailing about being miserable, they're, they're happy. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. But we checked out some museums and we went to see a wicked, um, such a different experience with the British accents. Uh, you're Really, you've really got to try it. By the way, I thought you meant the movie, and I'm like, did they re-record? Did they? Even there. Those movies there, they make sure. With AI now, they can have the same actors, but real cocky. Same actors, AI, British, Ariana Grande. What was your favorite European destination for a show that you did? This past trip, I had to stop in Amsterdam, which I loved. You're talking about Boom Chicago, isn't it, guys? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I love Amsterdam. I love that as a city. It's my favorite walking city. It's the best. That I've been to. It's not like I've been everywhere, but I love that you can walk into Amsterdam, especially at night, make directional choices and kind of have no idea which direction you're facing at all. And the only thing you can do is kind of just keep walking until you go, oh, I kind of remember that. I kind of love that it's so easy to get lost in. When we first moved that, the people who live there, when they gave directions, would say, go – and then go clockwise. Like, it's the only – you know what I mean? Like, they wouldn't go, like, turn right. Because, like, it is – just, like, there's rain. And I was like, what? Clockwise? Yeah. And they're like, go figure it out. Yeah. Because there's, like, a weird horseshoe in there. And it's like – Yeah. Yeah, it doesn't – yeah. Yeah. And to try to map it in your mind of where you think you are is so ridiculous. I mean, it's great now with phones. I can't imagine what you guys were doing in the 90s of, like – Just living life. not all of us made it out our friends that started the theater andrew and toskia their son uh finn who's like 24 now i would remember being with finn in amsterdam and you'd get on a bike and you'd bike like three minutes away from their apartment and he would have no idea where he was like he just and he was from there he just couldn't figure it out yeah yeah but i love it i love those audiences That was really fun. I played Madrid for the first time. How was that? It was fantastic. I was very nervous just about any kind of translation, any kind of language, anything. But all I learned in all these cities was that social media has changed everything. I mean, for the convenience of travel, you're like, great. But just for the nature of things, you're like, oh, that's such a downer. Everybody is like, oh, we're just all speaking English now. You're like, oh, all right. but I gotta say for a show in Madrid it's great it was a tiny little room these comedians started this space and I mean it holds maybe 80 people and they were like if you have this time we looked at your schedule if you would come through and I was like oh I mean yeah I'd love to like go to Spain I've never been to Spain this would be insane it's also nice to be invited it's nice to be invited and then also like you know it was small and we just did two shows in one night and then I just stayed in Madrid for a couple nights but the audiences were fantastic. I've played Dublin a few times. Dublin was probably one of my favorite shows I've done, and I don't even know how long, but yeah, it was crazy. That's great. I mean, I think that, yeah, anytime I feel like, I haven't done a ton of shows overseas, like a handful, but it is thrilling to be in a different country and have it go well. It was a little bit of a revelation. I was like, I mean, people came to my show in Berlin, and they were like, why didn't you come to Greece? or why didn't you come to these other places? And I was like, honestly, I just kind of didn't even know I could. I don't really understand what the infrastructure is over here. And I was like, oh my God, you could just go to Europe and the UK and tour the entire year and not even play anywhere in the US. It kind of really made me realize the longevity of an hour you put together. If you're so inclined to really press the gas and go for it, that you could. You could. you could sustain it for a while off of one show, which is insane. How, I know not everybody counts, but your last HBO special, how many times do you think you did that hour? I don't know. I don't know what we did for that tour. I want to say maybe somewhere like 40 to 50 shows just on the tour, and then kind of getting it set in the clubs leading up to it a little bit. But I don't know. This is the first time. I mean, you know this. We're on this pace now where once you drop your special, you better announce your next tour or you're getting left in the dust. And it's I can't do that. I'm so slow. But somehow this hour kind of just happened faster than any of the others that I've I've ever done. And so. Well, it's nice that you can supplement shows with shows that have no material. Yes. I mean, that's where a lot of it kind of comes from. That's amazing. Just going on stage and chatting and then being like, oh, maybe that's kind of a joke later on. Oh, that's awesome. This one, I think, is like 50 to 60 shows total on this tour. It's too much. It's too much. It's too much. And do you, other than Beaver Creek and your sort of nuclear family now, will you carve out time to just take pure vacations? Yeah, I feel like we've never been good at it. Now that we've moved to Colorado, we kind of try to carve out some space to get back to L.A. to see friends and let my daughter kind of run around and hang out with their friends. We've done that like a few times, trying to see family. But I don't know. I honestly think – and I kind of regret this. I don't know. Maybe you guys are better at this than I am. I mean that's the theme of the show, so probably. But I feel like I'm not as good at creating this consistent sort of vacation with my family that my dad always did. And I think part of it is because of this job, my interpretation of a year in time doesn't exist in the space of, well, I have two weeks off. It exists in the space of, you know, I don't really even know. like a moment where I think I have free time, you might get a guest role in something and suddenly that's gone and you're, you kind of don't notice it because you're kind of excited that you got, you know, you got a job. So you're like, oh, it's always kind of just juggling. Last year we went to Vermont. My, my daughter went to a summer camp. And so I just stayed in Vermont and my wife worked at the summer camp. And even though we were kind of separate, it truly felt like the first time I'd take an actual vacation as an adult where I fully recharged and actually relaxed. How long was the camp? My kid went for, I think, four weeks. But because my wife was going to be working at the camp, we had to get there two weeks early. And then my wife is in the stock company at this camp. It's not just a theater camp, but that's one of the things they have. And because my wife was in the stock show, we stayed another week. So I was shooting a show in L.A., So I would have to like go back to L.A., shoot. And then as soon as we were done with me, I was like, I'm on a plane right back to Vermont. It was pure heaven. Vermont in the summer made me realize I understand New England now. I get it. I get I get what everyone's talking about. It's not just Boston. It's not. Not just slushy Boston. It's not just slushy Boston. did you uh did your daughter who was the first person that was involved with camp your daughter your wife my wife my wife grew up in this in this camp and like loved it and was your daughter like so excited in the run-up so like giddy has looked forward to this for years my wife you have to be a certain age you have to have completed the fourth grade and be at least nine i think to get to go. And this was that last year was the first summer my kid could go. And it was also the first time I spent that amount of time in Burlington. I've been through Burlington to play the comedy club and it's fine and good. I was like, oh yeah, Vermont seems great. This was the first time I was like in nature. Every day I woke up, I would take my dog and we would go look for a river to sit in. My buddy Lars in town would take me around. Ryan Miller from Guster, he's up there he would show me all kinds of awesome he'd be like this is a river you're not necessarily supposed to go in but i know a way down through a path like i was like this is i'm 12 again this is bliss by the way everybody would like new england if they were hanging out with someone from gustar oh did you find the magic i thought we all got to yes most most uh larger cities and towns in new england will have someone associated with gustar that's right that's right to show you about to kind of host you we grew up like three hours away from burlington and never went just because we lived in new hampshire and we didn't go and my wife went to school at uvm and we went there for uh fourth of july one year and i was like oh my god like this is incredible and that it's so great that lake is just insane and it's uh yeah it's beautiful and there's just kind of a calm and i'm like oh my god what if i why did i get into this business what am i doing like why did i choose spoken word to not even give it a fun title why did i choose professional speaking oh my god what did your dad do spoken word is now what he's telling people spoken word it's really sad it's getting more and more about his feelings which he says is discovering how to do real comedy but uh you're also a podcaster now rory that's right congratulations for joining the team. Yeah, Crimeless. Tell us a little about Crimeless. Yeah, Crimeless is a lot of fun. If you are so inclined to know the deets of it, we're on Smartless platform, iHeart, Big Money Players, all those hot jams are on board. But yeah, myself and Josh Dean. Josh specifically kind of reads to me different crimes that have been committed throughout history and throughout the world by the most idiot criminals and their stories that I've never heard before. And so in the episode, I am learning about it for the first time, just like the audience is. And I just provide kind of color commentary to it and we just riff on it. Is that another show that you have to do no prep for? It's another, you're starting to see what my style is. I admire it. Yeah, when they say there's pre-production, I'm like, I'm out. I can't. I can't be involved. Yeah. Yeah, I can't be involved in that. That's not my brand. So yeah, I just sit there and he tells me a story and I kind of comment on it. And it's fascinating. I mean, we know that there's dumb criminals, but that's Josh is very good at his job in finding stories that really are shocking. Dumber than normal. Just dumber than normal. Yeah, yeah. And especially when it's historic makes it even better. You're like, oh, it makes you feel good. You're like, okay, good. We're not devolving. We've been dumb the whole time. We've been constant dumb. yeah uh it is lovely to talk to you buddy uh you really are one of my favorite comedians and now my my son ash as well so and that's what i was really aiming at yeah yeah uh before you go we have to uh speed round you real quick yeah great all right uh you can only pick one of these is your ideal vacation relaxing adventurous or educational relaxing what is your favorite means of transportation? Airplane. If you could take a vacation with any family, alive or dead, real or fictional, other than your own family, what family would you like to take a vacation with? The Jetsons. Great. If you had to be stranded on a desert island with one member of your family, who would it be? My wife. What is a dream destination for a family vacation? I mean, I love Burlington, Vermont. I think Vermont. Anywhere in Vermont. Great. You are from Greenville, South Carolina. If you had to get more families to come visit Greenville, how would you sell that town? Barbecue. A mild shift in liberal thinking, but not enough to really notice it. And here they come. A dedication to college football like maybe you haven't experienced before colleges that no one around you even attended. Just colleges to cheer for. But yeah, massive rivalry, Clemson, Carolina. And then Seth has our final questions. Rory, have you been to the Grand Canyon? I have. And was it worth it? It was very worth it. I went with a buddy and we took a trail that I don't think you're supposed to take. And we stayed one night and we did mushrooms. And it had all the things. I thought I was dying. And then I thought I was really alive. You know what, weirdly, just in the beginning of that story, I felt like I could have predicted mushrooms were going to happen. Yeah, it felt, when I said illegal path. Yeah. I feel like it was like, you don't do that unless more illegal is coming. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's not the only illegal thing you're going to do is just bust out a path. We're like, Pat's already an illegal trail. What else can we do? Oh, you did the mushrooms because you were already on illegal trail. That wasn't your plan. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. that's right uh thank you buddy i hope to see you soon uh in new york city man thank you congrats on the podcast appreciate it thank you all right buddy bye In state Driving across South Carolina So great Dad thought nothing could be finer State state In a condo near the water Vacation down on Myrtle Beach Sunburn Getting circles round his eyes And what's the world turn With a cooler right beside him Big sir There were waves and he would ride them Vacation down at Myrtle Beach He'd take off as Walkman And from out of nowhere Walk into the ocean Body serves some ways in there After a sesh Without much fanfare He would walk back to his Walkman And sit back in his chair Panama City beach and not the country Grandma And grandpa getting comfy Basketball And Rooney hitting from three Rory and sister on a tee Third mom Wife grew up at a camp there His dog Finding pathways to a river Oh my God Is the rad album by Duster Thanksgiving books, Airbnbs Stand-up shows you got to see Had so much fun with Rory Want to have fun Go hard and run Or crack a wine cooler If you've got some AVAILABLE NOW