Summary
The Ringer NFL Draft Show hosts review listener-submitted "take purges"—confessions of unpopular sports opinions shared without professional consequences. Topics range from Patrick Mahomes' ACL injury impact and running back contract disparities to quarterback rotations, rule changes, and tangential discussions about baseball, tennis, food, and pop culture.
Insights
- Running back contracts have stagnated for a decade despite inflation, creating a massive gap between player value and compensation compared to other positions
- Rookie quarterback performance often gets overrated due to small sample sizes and favorable circumstances; regression in year two is common and expected
- Rule changes addressing edge cases (goal-line penalties, QB sneaks) could significantly improve game flow and strategic depth without major structural changes
- Regional food superiority claims (NY bagels, pizza) are increasingly obsolete as food quality and technique have become globally accessible and standardized
- Sports media creates unrealistic expectations through highlight reels and influencer coverage, making actual experiences disappointing by comparison
Trends
Quarterback evaluation shifting from pure athleticism to decision-making and pocket presence as injury risk becomes clearerContract market inefficiencies in NFL creating arbitrage opportunities for teams willing to pay non-traditional positionsEntertainment and sports convergence with athletes launching podcasts and content ventures alongside athletic careersNostalgia-driven design preferences (Soviet-era cars, vintage aesthetics) gaining cultural traction against modern minimalismFood media bubble where viral content creates unrealistic expectations that actual products cannot meetBaseball analytics driving tactical changes (opener strategy, reduced pitcher innings) that fundamentally alter game structureCelebrity athlete dating patterns showing sport-specific variations based on tour structure and lifestyle factorsRule change discourse becoming more sophisticated with focus on unintended consequences and edge-case scenarios
Topics
Patrick Mahomes ACL injury recovery and athleticism dependencyRunning back contract market stagnationRookie quarterback performance regression (Jaden Daniels, CJ Stroud, Cam Ward)NFL rule changes (QB sneaks, goal-line penalties, push plays)Quarterback training camp attendance and player commitmentAaron Rodgers free agency speculationBaseball pitcher workload reduction and opener strategyFood quality regionalism and accessibilitySports mascot naming conventionsCelebrity athlete dating patterns by sportCirque du Soleil and entertainment athleticismSavannah Bananas exhibition baseballVehicle design aesthetics and color trendsFantasy sports league managementStreaming content expectations vs. reality
Companies
Netflix
Referenced for Gentlemen's Piss Club video content and movie releases including 'One Night Only' romcom
Spotify
Mentioned as platform for watching Gentlemen's Piss Club video content
Amazon
Primary sponsor providing shopping and essentials delivery services
Kansas Star Casino
Gambling affiliate mentioned in regulatory disclosures
People
Daniel K. Coral
Co-host of The Ringer NFL Draft Show and Fantasy Football Show
Daniel Hyde
Co-host of The Ringer NFL Draft Show
Danny Kelly
Participates in take purge discussion and provides NFL analysis
Craig Horlbeck
Participates in discussion, provides commentary on various sports topics
Patrick Mahomes
Discussed extensively regarding ACL injury impact on career trajectory
Jaden Daniels
Analyzed for rookie season performance and potential regression in year two
Aaron Rodgers
Discussed regarding Steelers free agency speculation and training camp attendance
CJ Stroud
Compared to Jaden Daniels regarding rookie year overrating and interception luck
Malik Nabers
Discussed as potential one-hit wonder similar to Odell Beckham Jr.
Brian Thomas Jr.
Analyzed as potential peak performance in rookie season with injury concerns
Jackson Dart
Discussed regarding reckless play style and self-preservation concerns
Tom Brady
Referenced for OTA attendance commitment compared to Aaron Rodgers
Katie Ledecky
Discussed for unprecedented dominance in long-distance swimming events
Michael Phelps
Referenced as comparison point for athletic dominance and physical gifts
Billy Joel
Subject of take purge claiming he is talentless sea shanty singer
Callum Turner
Stars in 'One Night Only' romcom mentioned during discussion
Dua Lipa
Referenced as Callum Turner's partner in context of movie discussion
Taylor Fritz
Discussed regarding tennis player celebrity dating patterns
Trinity Rodman
Dating Taylor Fritz, daughter of Dennis Rodman
Ben Shelton
Identified as rising star in American tennis with strong Riz
Quotes
"A purge is a confession or some thought that you have just in the back of your mind. You're not really sure if you believe it or not. You maybe don't even think it's true, but you need to get it off your chest."
Danny Kelly•Early in episode
"He's scrambling on 25 of the 29 plays. And I mean like running for his fucking life on 25 of the 29 plays."
Craig Horlbeck•Patrick Mahomes discussion
"There is no larger gap between like fame and how loved you are versus what you are paid than running backs in the NFL."
Host•Running back contracts discussion
"The MGM lion roar is actually a tiger. The sound that one would hear when a lion roars is something more akin to a giant yawn."
Mark Manjean (quoted)•MGM lion discussion
"I feel like Mahomes has kind of always been preparing to like get through something like this. And I trust that he'll be fine."
Craig Horlbeck•Mahomes injury recovery
Full Transcript
I'm Daniel K. Coral, and welcome to the Ring Your Fantasy football show. My name is Daniel Hyde, and today I'm joined by Daniel K. Coral, and today is the listener take purge. We do the take purge every twice a year before the season starts. We do the take purge every time. We do the take purge every time. We do the take purge every time. We do the take purge every twice a year before the draft, before the season begins. But this year we actually had so many purges from all of our listeners. We actually had to do an entire episode. Danny Kelly, can you explain for those that don't know what a purge is? A purge is a confession or some thought that you have just in the back of your mind. You're not really sure if you believe it or not. You maybe don't even think it's true, but you need to get it off your chest. It's intrusive. It doesn't go away. Exactly. I guess that's what a take is. I guess the purge is the movie where crime is legal for 24 hours, and then we made a take purge where you could do takes. To be clear, there's no consequences to getting these off your chest. That is the distinction. You can say whatever you want, no consequences professionally or personally or legally. Yes. But Chris Sims, but he does that 24-7, 365 days a year, which is why he is the take on. He's living in there. His whole life is the purge, which is why we dedicated two episodes a year to him. Did you guys know that there's a new romcom coming out this summer? That is essentially the purge, but for sex where you can only have sex one night a year. The movie is called One Night Only. What? It's a romcom? Why didn't we think of this, Craig? It stars Callum Turner, who is Dua Lipa's partner, and Monica Barbaro, if you're familiar with her. You only ought to have sex one time a year in this world? Yes. The trailer is actually quite odd because it kind of pitches it as like a normal, like meet cute romcom. And they like reference that premise. And then when I looked into the movie, I was like, oh, this movie is about you can only, only one night of the year sex is legal. Like this is the purge for sex, but they really try to sell it on like this is just a cute romcom. But that is the premise of the movie. You're like a panda bear. They have sex one day a year. Yeah, the premise. Two New Yorkers search for love on the one night of the year when sex is legal. Love. Is that what they're calling it? They're calling it for love that night. Well, you'll have to tune in and find out. That was it. That was an organic promo, I suppose, for this or well, Lux movie. There you go. Okay. So we're going to go through the listener take purge and I want to show up the discord, the fantasy football or the ringer fantasy football discord, which created a take purge channel for one week leading up to take purge and archived it. And most of these are from that. Some emails are woven in, but most of these are purges from the discord that were absolutely phenomenal from the ghosts, from the Chodes. The ghost. What do you like more, Craig? I don't know. There's a certain Jen, it's a clock to the Chodes. She's a good one. Okay. So shout out during the ringer fantasy football discord, if that's your thing, we're going to go and I can't at least tickle me so much. Okay. So I'm going to go. By the way, real quick, high fits is where a good gentleman's piss club teacher. Oh, I am. Yeah. Shout that out. I need to be safe. Gentlemen's piss club, go watch the video on Spotify or Netflix, baby. Don't forget. If you don't want to watch this on Netflix, that's fine. Just turn it on when you leave your house and leave it. If those numbers up. That's that numbers. Just turn it on when you leave. You turn it off when you get back home. Like you think I'm kidding, but do it. That'll, it'll help. Okay. So what these said, you're going to know which ones were discord versus emails because some are just discord usernames. Okay. So you'll figure it out real quick, but I'm going to, I can't wait. Okay. So I had to lead off with this one. This one is from Stampire. Stampire. That's bone. Patrick Mahomes relies on his athleticism more than people talk about. And this ACL injury is going to meaningfully affect the rest of Patrick Mahomes' career. You know, that's, that's a good one because it is kind of true. He is so crafty and he's always wiggling around in the pocket. Sneaky great runner, sneaky strong. I feel like he can lower his shoulder and kind of like truck through somebody. This is pretty good. This is like reminiscent of the Russell Wilson discussion during his career where it was like, what's going to happen when he can no longer run around? He can no longer do the Fran Tarkenton escape, like Steve Young escape pressure and run around and make magic happen. I think there is an element of that with, with Mahomes. I don't think it's quite as pronounced. It's not certainly pronounced. I got, so I did some science on this and I went back. He did some science. I did some scientific research. Do that. Yeah. And I watched a YouTube video that the chiefs put out. That's your science. Well, it was the 29, the title of the video is, it's from the chiefs official YouTube. It's the Patrick Mahomes's best 29 plays of his career so far. Okay. One man, that guy's incredible. Sure. Holy shit. Yeah. Properly rated. However, I did the, you know, charting, you know, I know proof of focus gets sold, but so I did some charting on these 29 plays. He's scrambling on 25 of the 29 plays. And I mean like running for his fucking life on 25 of the 29 plays. Yeah, but that's like, come on. That's like a bias based on what types of plays they're putting into their highlight. But it's all the cool plays. That's my point. He's the, he really is the coolest quarterback ever. But the, I rewatching it, I almost forgot how much of Mahomes' coolness is, he's breaking all the rules nobody else is allowed to do. He's throwing with his other hand. I forgot how incredible this jump pass he had was against Tennessee. He just jumps and throws the ball. How often he runs left and throws 40 yards out of dot to the other side of the field. And like it really is, he is so sneakily out racing defensive ends and out juking them all the time that like, I don't know, do you want tell us to be the right tackle? I don't know. I, I, I watching it, I was like to the point, it's not like Mahomes has done, but it's like, is he the same guy? Maybe not instantly. I do think that he's not really like a straight line runner. It's like he is a real change of direction. He's like really, he's basically playing tag back there and trying to avoid being touched and he's really good at it. So yeah, that requires a lot of like weird angles and weird improvised movements and weird shifting. I mean, look, I, I feel like Mahomes has been, what was it? Is the quarterback, the Netflix documentary, I remember watching that and watching what he does to his body and how he almost like, no, he doesn't prepare to get injured, but like he, he would bend his body in weird ways and kind of contort his limbs and weird angles to prepare for getting hit in awkward ways. So in a sense, I do think Mahomes has kind of always been preparing to like get through something like this. And I, I trust that he'll be fine. He just could not prepare for his own teammate ramming into his knee. Right. So the type of thing you just, you can't really prepare. Well, he's the one who rammed into her. She writes. Yeah. He tore her. She writes his knee. He cooked. Oh, sorry. He was running on the sideline. He was like rolling out towards the sideline and got hit right as he threw. I was kind of doing the thing that he was doing a lot. Sorry. I mixed that up. It's all good. I remember because I was going to win the title of for sure. Right. Right. Right. Oh my God. Yeah. That one, I just feel like every quarterback comes back from ACL where we'll see how they do. And Mahomes comes back and we're like, well, he's different. It's fine. Is Mahomes going to have like a real bad dad bod when he comes back from this? Is that underneath the dad bod? He has incredible core strength. That's the funniest part about him is it's kind of the exceptional core strength is the key to his whole thing. And he just hides it under a six, a 24 pack, of course. You keep a nice layer of fat to protect all the muscle. Right. Exactly. I believe that. Oh yeah. Okay. So the next one here, this is from the actual handle is Jackson, whatever. Okay. Jackson. You should pay running backs. They touch the football a lot. That qualifies as a take bird. That's an intrusive thought. You should pay running back. Intrusive thought. Every time something can't pay running back to like, man, I don't know, man, they get the ball so much. This inspired me to go through a list of actually, you ever just look at the list of players who get paid the same amount of money? Oh, it's brutal. Like you can't pay running back. And then I'm like, did you know that Ravens are going to pay Rashad Bateman more money this year than Derek Henry? Oh, if you had to power rank the most important players on the Ravens. When does Derek Henry come in? Like, is he like three? Probably. Yeah. Is it like Lamar Jackson, Kyle Hamilton and Derek Henry? Fricking maybe. Yeah, Rashad, that one blew my mind. The other one I love is Seguin Barkley makes less money per year than Jacobi Myers and the same money per year as Green Bay receiver, Jaden Reed. Man. I would like to know what are the best players that make less money than Wanda Robinson? Seguin Barkley. That's the line that I want to hit here. Here's one every running back in the NFL. Wanda Robinson makes more money than Christian McAlphay or Seguin Barkley. Wanda Robinson has paid more than every running back in the NFL. There is no larger gap between like fame and how loved you are versus what you are paid than running backs in the NFL. And also how cool the job is. D.K., here's a good example. Jackson Smith, Ken Walker is a good example because Ken Walker just went to Super Bowl MVP, hit free agency, so he actually got a market setting contract and everything, ended up as the second highest paid running back really behind the sake one. And Jackson Smith and Jigma stayed in Seattle, got a contract, or he's getting paid. Jackson Smith and Jigma is getting two and a half times as much money this season as Ken Walker. Kind of wild. I understand it from an injury point of view and fungibility, I guess, but it is kind of, it's bizarre to me that the running back contracts have not increased over the last, like, how long? Ten years? It seems like they've been flat forever. They have, Adrian Peterson got 14 million a year like ten years ago and Ken Walker just got that free agency. That's bizarre. Yes. Well, it stayed the same. It's flat with inflation. So, I have a list here on the spot track of all the NFL contracts. So, Wanda Robinson, average per year is making 17 and a half. Here are the people below him. I'll just kind of cruise through. Joe Tooney, Zach Bonn, Kendrick. Joe Tooney was the protector of the year last year. The best lineman in the NFL. The best offensive lineman in the NFL. The 25. Well, not really, but like one of them. Yeah. Cam Jurgens, Ed Oliver, Romeo Don, Xavier McKinney, Jesse Bates, Zion Johnson, T.J. Hawkinson. Okay. Kyle Pitts, egregious, Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers, wow. Derek Henry. Yeah, okay. You know. That's not as bad as I thought. Kenneth Walker, Breeze Hall, Mike Evans, but it's like. It's just all the running back. It's just fun. Jonathan Taylor is way down here. Yeah. Well, the other funny one is just because of the rookie contract stuff where it's like you start looking and you're like, there are kickers that make more money than junior camps. So it's just, it's funny. All right. Next take perch here. This is from Swish. Swish. Swish. Espon. Espon is a mod. Shout out Espon. Espon's take perch. We've already seen the best season of Jaden Daniels' career. Wow. I know. I'm worried about this a little bit. It's kind of tough. What are some good parallels to Jaden Daniels? RG3. RG3. What are you fucking talking about? RG is RG4. That's TG. TG up for that one. OK. OK. Other than that. Other than a guy who set the rookie Russian record player quarterback and then let his team do a remarkable playoff run. I look, that's that's. Is it Ricky? Yeah. No, the Jaden Daniels thing. I went back and I just was trying to recapture like how good his Ricky year was. Dude, double digit wins. First time for Washington in 30 years. He accounted for 31 touchdowns, almost 900 rushing yards. So it was like basically the most player, Ricky quarterback. He had, I won't go through them all, but it was like five walkoff wins basically or fourth quarter comebacks and then halfway through his rookie season. So basically if just look at a team's first seven weeks of the season and you look at just like EPA per play. So the best offense is ever. It's the 2000 Rams who won the Super Bowl to the 2007 Patriots who went 16-0. The 2018 Chiefs in Mahomes's first season and then the 2024 Commanders, which was just the first seven games Jaden Daniels ever played. Dude, and not only that, they got to the point in the playoffs where I was like, this team deserves to be in the Super Bowl and I don't know how you stop them. I remember you saying that like, I literally don't know how you stop. It was like watching a guy play, play Madden on expert mode. I was like, I, he Jaded, it's like, it was like old school Mike Vick or I'm like, he either just completes a 30 yard pass to Terry McClaren or he just runs for a first down. And you can't stop it either way. Washington went 20 of 23 on fourth down in 2024. Oh yeah. 20 of 23, 87%. Would you guys slot in Jaden Daniels as an obvious bylaw this year? I think so. I think yes. I think yes. It's, I'm still a little concerned, but overall he's unbelievable. Cause like the team's not that much better like on offense from a roster standpoint, but, it's probably year one was in extreme in one direction. Year two was in extreme in the other direction and it's going to land somewhere in the middle, but I'm, I'm, I'm much more confident that what we saw year one is incredibly real and that is who Jaden Daniels is. You know who the other guy that comes to mind with the, we've seen the best of Jaden Daniels and it was his rookie year as CJ Stroud. Yeah. Stroud. So here's where I'm at with Stroud. I think his rookie year was vastly overrated and he actually played pretty similarly the first two seasons. I think the, the, the CJ Stroud thing that we all got wrong with CJ Stroud's rookie year was he didn't throw an interception for a long time. I think he finished with like 23 touchdowns in one pick, but man, did they drop a lot of his fucking interceptions. And then he played a couple of incredible games, the Texans Colts game. He was amazing. And then the playoffs, he shredded the Browns. Yeah. Um, that, that game, it was like, that was the, and that was the best defense in the league that year, Cleveland. And they won 45 to eight, but they ran a specific style and like they got a lot of guys wide open and I won't, Stroud played great in those games, but outside of those like three or four games, 45, 14, that game, but Stroud was playing good, but he was not really playing elite. The part that was crazy was a rookie came in and he had like one pick. He like had the lowest interception rate in the NFL, but man, he still had the turnover worthy plays. I feel like the catch, the interceptions he was throwing just started getting caught. And everyone's like, what the fuck is going on with this guy? And obviously the curse of trying to big brother Caleb Williams, but, um, and in the podcast curse, the podcast curse. I mean, you know what we did? Went through all draft season and then tell you about it's Caleb downs does have a podcast. That's really the biggest issue with him as a, as a, as a prospect is he has a podcast. Hmm. Maybe he doesn't love ball. What, what is it? What does it make you guys feel when an athlete who's making tens of millions of dollars is in peak physical form is in the 0.001% of athleticism? Still at the end of the day is like, I also want a podcast. Go away. Let us have something. Jesus. Uh, I'm this note. Well, more depressing start than I thought, but this one, this one really caught my attention. This is from a bear fight princess. Okay. Shut up. Be. Be bone. We've already seen the best fantasy season of Malik neighbors and Brian Thomas's careers and nobody from the 2024 class will ever top Brian Thomas Jr. Man, we get some freaking morose people here. I, it's more depressing than I thought, but I will just to remind you, Brian Thomas Jr. was the number four receiver in fantasy in 2024, only behind Jim Arches, Justin Jefferson, and a model on the same brown. Man. So this is basically like Malik neighbors is kind of just Odell, but sped up. Yeah. Basically, which is my fear as well. That's this whole thing is that neighbors is just Odell again. And then the 2024 draft is just the 2014 draft. Basically, I guess they're saying or mix of 2012. And then yeah, Jaden's going to be a RG three, but the Brian Thomas thing. I don't know. Is he ever going to be the fourth at top four receiver in fantasy again? It's going to be third and receiving yards again. No, I think this is right. Neighbors was fifth in catches and he was like points, he was yards per game. Malik neighbors was six. He was only behind a monitor, a safe round, Nico, Collins, Bukanecua, Jefferson and Chase. I'm a little worried about me. I hope he comes back. The neighbors thing is just injury related. How do you feel about neighbors hyphens with Jackson Dart? Do you think this is going to be fine or is it going to be the talent is obvious, but the connection won't work? If I'm being honest, I have not let my beating heart. I have not actually I am protecting myself and my imagination from imagining fully healthy neighbors and fully healthy dart, just crushing it. I can't tell you how much I want that to be the case, but my heart is very guarded. I have to say I would love nothing more than like neighbors to be fully healthy and have like 1900 yards. However, it freaks me out a little that he has. He never did really put three weeks in a row healthy. Like the Giants almost killed him. Speaking of flashes in a pan and Jane Daniels and some of these guys that were really awesome as rookies, what's your level of concern around Jackson Dart? Do you think Jackson Dart is legit? Do you have a strong confidence that he that what he saw as a rookie is real? Yes, the he needs to learn to protect himself and have some sense of self preservation. He can play from the pocket. There's no question about it. He did enough that it's like he can play from the pocket. I am unconcerned about it. I am more concerned about he has to just it's like the rare. It's the same as Jane Daniels. It's the exact same problem that we. Yeah. And we were talked about it coming into the league. Jane Daniels is like whatever it is, 200 pounds. Super skinny guy. I don't know. I feel like Daniels is rookie season. The way he played was way more mature than Jackson Dart. Way more mature and it was all the VR shit he did. Jane Daniels was like, oh, it looks like you've seen it before. He's doing the edge of tomorrow stuff. He's like, I played this game at 2X speed already in the VR three times. But you know, this is a slender guy who took crazy hits in college. But I agree with Craig like you go 20, 23 and fourth down and up in reckless. Dart has the Anthony Richardson thing where it's like if you're bigger, you can, in theory, take on more hits, but you still want to avoid hits. And it's like Jackson Dart was seeking contact in situations where it was reckless and that's what bothered me. Jackson Dart was taking hits, not going for it on first downs or not going for touchdowns. Jackson Dart was taking hits. And this is why Brian Dibble got fired. Like down 20 to the Eagles with two, three minutes left. I'm like second and six to get one yard. Like what the fuck? Like, like that's insane. Like down 14 to the nine is under a minute to go. Yeah, you're a puppy. And Jackson Dart's getting clobbered. Yeah, exactly. And so that needs to go. And if that as long as Dart stops doing that, then I'm happy. All right. Speak. This one's funny. This is from Ernie P. Earn, Elon, big earn. The Eagles should increase the price for AJ Brown because of the PR distraction it would that would benefit the Patriots. They're just holding a hostage. The Patriots desperately need a win here. Sorry, the price tag just went up to two firsts. Mike Rapell calls. Howie Rosemary is like, we said twenty twenty first, right? Howie Rosemary is like the price of the bricks going up. Saw some pictures on a boat. Price just went up. Sorry. Oh, boy. AJ Brown's taking these photos. Yeah, right. That's that is a good twist to this story, Craig. It's AJ Brown. He's the one doing this. Hmm. I thought that was good. And if you think that hasn't crossed how he rose in his mind. I mean, when you talk about leverage, so like the Eagles are just sitting pretty right now. Thought about it. This one's from Turtle. Turtle from entourage. Must be Avion, baby. Turtle says the push should not be banned. Quarterback sneaks from under center should be banned. Oh, interesting. OK. Turtle's point is if you want to go for it and forth one, hand it off or run it up the gut from pistol, but remove the pure reaction time element, which is actually the problem with the whole steer of the push. The quarterback sneak is the problem. Do you guys like the QB sneak? Is the QB sneak fun to you? Sucks. No, it's not fun. It's definitely not fun. It's stupid. I think this is right. I think any play that results in like a pile of 12 guys and they don't know where the ball is, and it takes five minutes for the refs to like basically randomly put the ball somewhere and then measure it is a bad play. I agree. The whole thing where it's like the push push, like it's a rugby play. I'm like, well, the quarterback sneak is a rugby play. It's really the first place. Just give that guy the ball and push. Like that's just the first play. Aesthetics aside, I've felt this a couple of times. I wonder why maybe it's just an injury thing or whatever. People worry about the quarterback's getting hurt, but it seems like they could run quarterback sneaks more often and pick up pretty good yards. You know what I mean? Because like there's there's a lot of plays where the quarterback will line up under center and there's no tackle or whatever. He's kind of tilted to one angle or whatever. And then you got like five yards to the next guy. We're not really, but it's like there's a there's a lot. There's a lot of space on certain plays where they should just frickin audible to a sneak and do like the Tom Brady thing where you just like lower your head and basically ride your center five yards up feel. I feel like they should do that more often. Like like Josh Allen goes like five wide and just QB sneaks. Yeah, that's guaranteed four yards every time. Right. I feel like that could be sort of an edge. Just do that the whole way down the field, the entire game all season. Yeah, it's a pretty good idea. And no, not aesthetically pleasing football. Get rid of the pomp and circumstance of the touch push where everybody lines up and we wait like 15 seconds for them to snap the fucking ball. Just snap it quickly and get five yards. If you guys could get rid of one part of the game, what would it be? Probably kicking. Yeah, like field goals and punting. Yeah, it's like a field. If field possession is so important that don't fucking give it up. I think field goals. I kind of like field goals. I don't like field goals. I think they're kind of fun. They're dramatic. They're kind of fun. Just think how many games would end on just like really lame Hail Marys if we didn't have field goals. Right. That's true. Larry David has that take that like he's that's really his take purchase that like kickers coming on at the end of an NFL game is insane. I feel that it is like it's completely disconnected from the rest of the game. But but like if there's 30 seconds left and a team is down to and it's like so they got they're not going to go score a touchdown so the game is effectively over and it's going to end up there. It's kind of fun when it's like can Chris Boswell hit a 56 yard or I don't know. I think it is anti-climactic. It's like, oh, we fucking made the kick. OK, I guess the game's over compared to like an incomplete pass. I mean, that's more exciting to me is like throw it up into the end zone. See what happens. Yeah, but that one out of a hundred times it gets caught, at least a field goal. You're flipping a coin, if not better, more than a hundred one out of a hundred. But yeah, really? What do you think more than a one out of a hundred Hail Marys get caught? Well, it depends on how deep we're talking, I guess. But what's a Hail Mary? Fifty yards. How much could a Hail Mary cost? Forty fifty yards. I can't. I don't feel like you would be more like ten. I don't know. No. Out of 100. What if ten Hail Marys are not caught? You said, what is it? Aaron Rodgers, your beloved. There's no fucking way. Aaron Rodgers hits like 60 percent. There's like two a year. Maybe. I don't know. What the fuck is happening? I just say 10 percent of Hail Marys are caught. What are you? That's called. Well, they're named after a player. If they're going to be practicing it, maybe. Oh, wait, we have to read. Did you see the report? I guess this is going to come out a couple of days after we're taping this. But even after I've reported like some Aaron Rodgers thing, the amount of times that people that that real reporters top of the game reporters report that Aaron Rodgers is is likely going to come play for the Steelers this year, but there's just no concrete information. This is what Ian Rappaport tweeted. Aaron Rodgers, who is expected to visit the Steelers Friday and this visit will likely play for them in 2026. A deal is not done. And there was always caution until things are signed. It's like, what is the point of that statement? We already knew all this. He's visiting the Steelers. He doesn't he he was there last year. He lived there. What do you mean? Visiting the Steelers? He's like he's like he's coming over on the weekend to play with the kids. It is easier to now smoke to a wall than figure out if Aaron Rodgers wants to play quarterback in the NFL. Dude, it is insane how much he is following the Brett Favre track of his career. It's it's wild. Cosmic. He feels like he must feel like they're like it accidentally soul bonded. It is fucking crazy how much he's become far of this man that he hated. Is training camp that bad? Are the other ones when Farve skips? Listen, Farve skipped. It was two practices. I know they were doing two days. They were staying in fucking dorms. Now they stay at probably really nice hotels. Yeah. Well, maybe not the Steelers. No, the Steelers are still at a college store. Bear Steelers are in dorms in the tropes. He's like, I'm not going to that fucking toilet. He's in Malibu right now. He's like, oh, wait, it's true. Farve was like, I'm going to have to run laps and play two days in the sun. It's like, no, thanks. I'll show up August 30th. But it isn't here's the part that drives me insane about all this. Is do you know who went to their first 18 OTAs? It like they're like, oh, well, what do they do it in voluntary OTAs? I don't need to do that. That's for 22 year olds learning to play. But Tom Brady went to the first 18. And match Patrick Mahomes also hasn't missed any OTAs. What the fuck are you doing? I mean, it is objectively the right thing to do if you're the starting quarterback. What are we talking about here? It's objectively the correct thing you should be doing. This is what we talked about this last year. It took a while for Aaron Rodgers to get like on the same page as the receivers. You know where you could do that at OTAs. You fucking idiot, dude. A motherfucker went to the pyramids and then the jet said he's like calling out Mike Williams at a press conference about the red line. And then it's just like, well, only you'd gone to those like nine extra days of practice, man. Usually I'm just I'm typically I would say I'm pro player in terms of like letting them do what they want to do. But I absolutely understand why the Seulers are annoyed at this. It's like, dude, come on, fucking get over here. We have a season coming up and they offered him like a little raise to. Yeah, they hired Mike McCarthy. They were forced to offer him that raise because he's fucking holding them hostage. Dude, I'm just on this one. This guy sucks, dude. I just love that tweet. That tweet is so funny. Craig Horlback, who is expected to visit fan dango.com, will likely see a movie in 2026. It's like, what is the point of that tweet? Look, Craig, it is a slow timer in the off season. We need to create some storylines. What is he doing right now? He's in Malibu. He's enjoying his wife. That is anonymous wife. That is either real or not real. That I respect. You do not. If you're famous, your spouse does not need to be put on blast. Why not? Well, yeah, I respect the private life. I respect the fact that she's we don't even know her name or do we? I don't know if we do. I don't know. But I don't know for sure if she's real is is sort of where I am. I'm not going to say that right now. Maybe she's a guy who can't that man is not. Maybe she's a clanker. OK, who knows? We can't claim. I'm not going to clank shame anybody. All right, this. Well, this was not even a take just. But while you mentioned rule changes, someone wrote it as a purge. I'm like, this isn't a purge, but it's the most sensible rule change I've ever heard. OK, it's from Matt. Maddie and bone breakfast was Texas. This an email. Red grapefruit, bowl of non-skype, non-fat skier mixed with granola. What is Texas? Yogurt fruit. I think it's a grapefruit and then a non-fat yogurt. OK, skier is basically Icelandic yogurt. OK, that's the best. Love that stuff. So Matt wrote, I hate how offensive pound penalties are mostly meaningless when they're backed up against the goal line. So like its first in 10 from your own one, false start, half the distance. It is a glitch in this first down. Yeah, it's lame. And that's like, why not just tack the penalty onto the line to gain and move the first down marker up five? Oh, I'm going to be honest, I've never considered that and that that makes sense. So say it again, tack the. So if you're on the five and it's a ten yard penalty, you can't go back ten yards. So then why don't you just add five yards to the first down? Yeah, yeah. Oh, that makes sense. Matt wrote that as a tag purge. I'm like, buddy, they might just make that rule next year. I don't know if anyone's even thought of that. I thought he was going to say like back him up into the end zone. That too. It's also like a great idea. Fuck it. Play in the end zone. The end zone's ten yards long. Fucking use it. Snap the ball in the middle of the end zone. That's awesome. You get tackled. It's still a safety. That'd be amazing. You ain't going to run the ball because that's the worst part is when it's like you're on your own one. And it's like, oh, they're just going to like QB sneak to get a couple yards. If there's seven yards deep in the literal end zone, they got to fucking throw it fast. I love that too. Just put them in the end zone. Put them in the end zone. Instead of having the half the distance to the goal or whatever, you could also just lose the down. Half the distance to go and you lose the down. You could. I just like moving. I just love that. I've never thought just move the other. You have two sets of sticks. Move the other one. We'll take Bikini Bottom and we'll move it somewhere else. You just push it. It's. He doesn't get that. I know that it's a sponge bob reference. That's all I know. This episode is brought to you by Amazon. Life's full of little surprises like spilling coffee everywhere five minutes before a meeting or reaching for a diaper and realizing the bag is empty. 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Cam Ward had that one play where he threw across the field that was fucking awesome last year. And that was the only one I think about. This one's from Guy Man 1023. Guy Man. Guy Man. Just in case you were wondering. Anybody named please email us if you know somebody under 10 years old named Guy. Oh, interesting. There are these named guy. I did get a text the other day from Drew and Drew is like he had a land inspector come and the land inspectors last name was Landman. Hmm. That makes sense. Incredible. What's he what kind of what's a land inspect? Which which we're all around looking at the ground. Which one are you going to change your last name to footballman? Football's man. Anyway, this was from Guy Man. Teams that have two bad quarterback situation. Oh, no, sorry. Teams that have bad quarterback situations like the Browns or Jets or Falcons should just run a baseball style rotation and have a starting quarterback. A change that pays quarterback in a closer. Hmm. That's fucking awesome. I like that. I like that. To is like to like Michael Penix is the closer, but to it just kind of does the first three quarters. Yeah. Penix is Riviera is Mariana Rivera. That's very interesting because it's like, oh, we can only get a good week. Gino is really only good for a quarter and a half. And then we'll bring in someone else. You can also like a little relief like an early down quarterback and a third down quarterback they get. And the practice thing is the big question mark here, I think, if we're actually talking about this seriously, the reason teams don't do this is because there's not enough practice time. But what if what if you just have a guy on the side practicing his third down plays? I don't know. That's the kicker is just practice kicking all the grounds this year. Practice. It's interesting. Imagine if it's like, oh, in the third quarter, we bring out Taysom Hill. We won the wishbone for the third. I kind of am in love with this. So you know what's funny is they kind of used to do the Rams. He's the middle reliever. Yeah. He could run the ball for the third. Kind of just keep the score the same. Get to the fourth quarter, bring in Tenix or you know, starting kind of like starting pitchers, you know, who's going to play each day. The Rams did that in the 50s. They had Norm Van Brockland and they had Bob Waterfield and they won the championship of the 50s. Norm Van Brockland and Bob Waterfield. Norm Van Brock, he's the most passing year in a game. Norm Van Brockland. Waterfield. I got to say, so we're playing fantasy baseball this year and my team sucks. And you know what? I'm trying hard to like I am setting my shit every day. I am in the I am adding and dropping players. My team sucks. And I don't know what to do. My team sucks, too. Like helpless. I don't know what to do. You can't do anything. My team sucks. But I check every fucking day. I've memorized all what teams my players are on, like checking, oh, how did Brandon Lodoo on the Pirates today? And he doesn't and he's over four. Actually, he's been OK. But this isn't so I like watch baseball growing up a lot, but I've kind of like taken the last five years off. So just getting back into it. Hyphids. I don't love maybe this is a boomer take, but it's related to this take, Burge. I don't love the whole like sometimes there's a guy who comes in like the starter before the starter and he pitches like a couple innings. Oh, the opener. No, it's brutal. What the fuck is that? Like, I get that they do that in the playoffs, but like now that's a regular season occurrence and like no starting pitchers basically pitch more than like five or six endings now. Well, so that is the big change in baseball. That's kind of skewed of fantasy business. Well, that is the big thing. So the opener is kind of rare. The Rays experimented with a little basically what if your clothes are pitched the first inning because like those are the best three batters and then you had a different guy because it's kind of just basically. It's multiple forces converging. If everyone pitches less, everyone can throw harder. So that's number one. It's like the most common sense. It's like every collective pitch is faster. That's better. Also, the other benefit is the more at bats, a pitcher, a batter faces a pitcher. Like the more pitches he sees, the more likely is to get hit. So they don't really want any media unless you're really, really, really good as a pitcher. They don't really want the batter seeing you a third or a fourth time. That is the thing that I've noticed too. That dude, they keep stats on everything. I'm still trying to figure out what some of these fucking stats are for baseball as we play this season. And there's stats on how poorly or like the difference between the first time through the batting order and the third the first two times through the batting order and the third time through the batting order. And there's some pitchers where you're like, we don't want him to get to the third time through the batting order. That's when he really starts to fall off, which I think is fascinating. Pitchers just throwing eight innings now is like it's a like you like raise your eyebrows like it is really like and it's a dying breed. That's the other thing is like the guys doing it are kind of older. Like it's like old school guys who like won't get yanked from a game. But like they have calloused ligaments in their arms. And also every team, I feel like this is the field goals thing. I remember I always do have callous ligaments, but I always feel like you remember, like I remember them cutting to 60 yard field goals. Because it's crazy. I remember when a pitcher could throw 100 miles an hour. It was a big deal. Every fucking team has five random six foot five men who could throw 100 miles an hour. I know it is kind of crazy. Every single one. Yeah. Did you guys see the show? Hey, Tony sweeper pitcher. I don't know what it was a slider. Oh, yeah. And the pitching ninja Twitter account made it could out Al Tuve have hit that pitch if he had been swinging himself. And then he like is like they made like the graphic of him swinging a life-size cardboard cutout of himself. And he missed. He missed by so much that he even like a full himself couldn't have hit that. That's like the problem is like now that now the guys can hit. They can throw a fucking 100 mile an hour fastball in the next pitch is like a sweeper or whatever they call it slider outside and it's like eight feet outside and still looks the same coming in. Here's and here's the other. Well, that's the that is the crazy part. Because again, what's the four tenths of a second to hit a fastball? And then it looks like a curveball for half of that time anyway. So you're just guessing. But the other crazy thing, which I don't know if you guys know about this, they have these machines now. That the batting cages now in the MLB stadiums, they're too big to transport, but every home stadium has a machine that can perfectly replicate a pitcher. And so it is like their motion on a screen. Really? And then the ball comes out and it mimics the pitcher's arsenal. So they can add. So like, let's say it's a Tony pitching, like in your face in the Dodgers that night, the podges of machine in their home stadium that mimics all of a Tony's pitches, tries to mimic the pitch mix and will put the spin on it so you can practice the tunneling and they're putting him up so you can practice the timing of this delivery. It is fucking crazy. The arms race in baseball over just like you're practicing on a fucking video screen of him. It is literally an arms race. Got to well played. Yeah. But I missed the brand of baseball where a guy would come out, Max Scherzer, come out, throw eight innings. I love that. I do. Max Scherzer might still do that. Yeah. He's still pitching, by the way, getting rocked. Dude, the fact that Justin, I kind of spit out my water the other day when I was like, Justin Verlanders is still in the MLB. It's great, dude. He won the Cy Young when we were in middle school. That dude is straight up. He's 43. Go home to Kate Upton. Go home to Kate. Oh, yeah, it's just bored. What are you doing there? Big hit Kate Upton. We got an email from someone who was impressed that I named Brooklyn Decker and Barra Fele off the top. No, that's good. Good. Good polls on your account there. Well, they were just like, are all men kind of secretly just cosmic brothers with everyone else? Because, you know, everyone just remembers the sports illustrated. Of course. Magazine. So Barra Fele, one of them was with Andy Roddick and one was with Leo. Brooklyn Decker still, Brooklyn Decker still with Andy Roddick. Still with Andy Roddick. And then did Leo Debar off Ale? Yeah. Yeah. Yes. And Chrissy T. And Derek Peter, Chrissy T. Three or four different Brazilian supermodels. We currently, Chrissy T. He can get with John Legend. Barra Fele is Israeli, maybe, actually. But yeah, Jesus really. I know too much. I'm knowing more about this. Cancel. See you, DK. Look, I didn't date her. All right. Why? He just fades away. Should they know snap him? I gotta say, tennis players clean up. Oh, yeah. I'm not sure why, but they do clean up. Stamina. I'm not sure why. Because you're professional athletes. Yeah, but I don't know. It's like, first, I just feel like. I wouldn't have expected that. I didn't know they had it in them. Because they're lanky? Like tennis players do much better than like MLB pitchers in the celebrity kind of like famous. Justin Verlanders with Kate Upton. What are you talking about? I know, but like think about how many pitchers there have been that are famous. Like there's fucking how many basal teams are there? How many really good starting pitchers have there been tennis? It's like, well, you know, the top five guys in the world. There's like five relevant male tennis players a year. Craig. They clean up. It's because baseball players by and large are fucking dirtbags. No, no, no. The real reason is that they're like married to a high school sweetheart. What are you guys? I don't know. First of all, where are you? Where are you getting this information? What are you basing this on? This is purely anecdotal, but baseball players are the biggest dirtbags of any sport, I would say by far. You guys come at me if you think I'm wrong. Let me know which sport has bigger dirtbags than baseball. I think I would be the first to admit this. This sport is full of dirtbags. I don't know. Like there was that rumor that Brooks Nader was sleeping with Carlos Alcaraz and Sinner, and I'm just like tennis players, man. What was that movie? Well, they're the best two tennis players. They're the best two. Can you name? Challengers. Can you name? Yeah, but like whatever, when like Jacob DeGrom or Garrett Cole, you're not like, oh, are they dating Dua Lipa? This is not a thing. Because you got like John Rocker and Kurt Schilling. What are you talking? You just named the best two tennis players and then the best two pitchers are whatever. It's like, I'm saying like whatever, like when DeGrom was like the best pitcher in the league and he was like a phenom, it's like it was not like, oh, is DeGrom going to date Sabrina Carpenter? Like that just doesn't happen as much. Tennis players, it's like anything's on a table. Interesting. I'd like this. Maybe. You know Paul Skeens is Livy Dunn, right? Tennis players clean up. That's true. You're right. Paul Skeens, Livy Dunn is that that's helping the pitcher brand a lot. Maybe I'll even work. Who does he dating? Livy Dunn. It's this is who baby. Baby Gronk got rinsed up by Livy Dunn. He started the brain. Gymnast who went to LSU and is now an influencer model of person. Livy Dunn's patient zero for brain rot. Because maybe got rinsed up by the done. I don't know if my take is more, why don't baseball players date more models or man, tennis players over index really well. I think I guess my question, the baseball thing is just a sexier version of why aren't these guys famous, especially because they're the richest. That might be right. And I get that baseball is is less popular than basketball and football right now. Players. But tennis is who cleans up better? Golf players or golfers, I guess, or tennis players. Golf players. It's it's tennis. Tenors. Why isn't it tennis or is it golfers? I believe it is tennis men and tennis men. And I think that's where it is. Again, I mean, Tiger Woods was obviously very busy, but he. That was the best. It was something that Tiger Woods should have been a fucking. Picture the radar busy, you know, he was trying to be Tiger Woods. Tiger Woods should have played baseball. A lot of golfers have like. The marriage would should have played baseball. He was a he was a baseball player in his soul, I think. He hates baseball players. No, I'm not I'm not. Hey, I'm not judging. I'm simply stating a fact. They're on the road a hundred and how many days will you fucking hear? I got canceled for thinking Barra Faeli was Brazilian. He just started swing shooting from the hip. Now he's like, who cares? Basically, this was the take purge. Yeah, we unfade us snapping. Yeah, I don't know. But I think it's golfers are like married to have been married for 10 years to some random woman and they've. You know, I don't know. Rory dated Caroline Wozniaki at the. When he was like 21, golfers were always there with a little kid when they win the Masters, very it's very wholesome. There's like the family events before the Masters. Tennis players just fucking travel in the world and date models. You know what? You know, here's you know what? I just I think I just thought of it. The tennis tour goes to way different places because golf is generally the PGA tennis is like luxurious places, like fucking Monaco and yes tennis is going. Yes, the most luxurious place for the for the spouses to go to. Just a bunch of rich people tennis is going to Miami, Monaco, Madrid, Rome, like all over. And then like we're little stops to D.C. or Cincinnati or Wells or Indian Wells, even that's in like Palm Springs. But it's like the golf one is more like it's just like rich golf locations for the most part. But it's like Houston and New Orleans and like Atlanta. And then like, I mean, I mean, Augusta for Georgia. And then it's like to stop through Florida and their little like, you know, the Jupiter Island, all that stuff. And they have like, you know, it's like Pebble Beach, all these things. But it's not like Rome, but it's not like cool nightclub places. Yeah. And like there's another girl, Morgan Riddle, who is an influencer who's who's dating the tennis player, Taylor Fritz, and she's like made a brand out of just being the girlfriend of a tennis player and it just looks awesome. He's he's great, sir. Being a girlfriend of a tennis player. Yeah, it does look like always in Europe, like at some fancy hotel. She's like, oh, I got to go to this tennis match. But he was he was a wild child when he was younger. Taylor Fritz Taylor Fritz. I he just kind of get it. Never heard of this kind of Taylor Fritz is. So can I do it a thing on American tennis right now? Sure. Yeah. So the American tennis guys, it's just like it's really there is something in every sport where these things we said would never happen again, just immediately happened again in Cinder and Alcrazor, maybe kind of as good as Federer and Adele. And there's just this tier of guys below them. And the American guys are just so far from winning a major. But Taylor Fritz has come close as kind of. But man, got to get his head together. It's good. Huge serve. Damn, he's from San Diego, shouts out 28 years old. And and Tiafo has been a little disappointing at times. Francis Tiafo has been disappointing. Ben Shelton is really the next. Oh, who's Ben Shelton dating? Ben Shelton's really good. Ben Shelton is Riz and is young and is he's going to be a star. I'm telling you right now, Ben Shelton is going to be a star. OK. Is he dating? Riz. He does have Riz Trinity Rodman. He's dating Trinity Rodman. Any relation to Dennis? Yes, his daughter, which is on the US Women's Women's National Soccer Team. You guys think more tennis players should tear their ACL? You surprised by that doesn't happen more. You never hear about that. Honestly, biomechanics. Honestly, it must be the way the game is played. That that is just less conducive. They're not getting hit by they're not getting hit by their quarterback from when they're running out of bounds. Yeah, I guess that's right. You just never hear about that. You never hear about Achilles or ACLs with tennis players. Naka would. I'm surprised Achilles is in a thing. I feel like Achilles has got to be a thing that. But they're yeah, I don't know. They're not as they're it's a young man's game, too. Well, like some of the guys. The elites can age better, but like for the most part. Being a pro tennis player would be awesome. I feel like the body type is great. It ages really nicely. You're just like so thin and lean. You're like usually long and thin and you're just like running around. You're in great cardiovascular shape. You just on the Mediterranean diet. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Sounds great. You have like some sick European watch sponsorship. Hell, yeah. If you're good, it's great. The it would be I rather be. Would you rather be a pro golf or a tennis player? I feel like baseball golf is golf. It just seems like you're always fucking golfing. And it's just I know it's just a lot of crime prison. Yeah, golf. You only get paid. You only have paid if you win. It's like, yeah, if you couldn't leave heaven, is it still heaven? That's imagine all your golf stress. And imagine how stressed you get about golf, but imagine if it was for work and imagine if all of your if being bad at golf meant you sucked at your job. Yeah. And then suddenly you're like, oh, my God, maybe this wouldn't be super fun. Basketball, clearly. I think basketball is at a tier of its own being an NBA player. You're paid so much money to not fucking play. It is unbelievable. You can get two or three million dollars. You might not play a whole season. And that just seems like a life. You have to be practicing all the fucking time. Yeah, exactly. I think tennis is like that, too, Craig. Tennis famously, you have to practice a lot. Because also tennis, you have to do logistics. Basketball play, you're a 12th man. You don't have to fucking figure out how you're getting to Houston for the game tomorrow. You know what support sounds terrible to me? Swimming. Oh, God, the worst. Just constantly swimming. Brutal. Michael Phelps, I would rather not. I'd rather just have a normal childhood than win eight medals and be Michael Phelps. That seems like. Be the greatest Olympian of all time. I mean, that sounds hard. I don't want to do that shit. It does sound hard. I mean, a lot of those Olympic event type sports are tough. I mean, even if you're the best in the world, which is obviously an incredible accomplishment, like. Unless you are Michael Phelps, you are not that famous. You are not that rich. You are. It's incredibly difficult. Like, obviously the reward internally, I'm sure, is massive, but the external rewards are not super high. Do we know why Katie Ledecky is so good at swimming? Have we figured this out yet? It's just she just tries hard. You know the event. I forget what the event is. She just tries hard. Why is anyone good at anything? No, but you know, no, but it's like different, you know? So the I think it's the 15. I'll go with it. Why is Katie Ledecky? She has the 18 of the top 20 times ever. Yeah. Like she literally it's like the best 20 times ever in this event. It's just it's like the end of it's like the highest rated programs every year. And it's like football. She's like the football of long distance swimming. But you're asking why is she so good at it? Even Michael Phelps, no one's ever done in swimming what she's done with this event. It's like no. Well, it doesn't have the top 20 scores at Augusta National at the majors. Like Michael Phelps never had the top 20 times in event. Like it's not like she held the world record. It's like everyone else is behind her 17th best time. Do you want to know? Do you want to know what Gemini says about this? I fits. So there's a unique. She has a unique combination of aerobic capacity, highly efficient gallop stroke technique, which apparently. Hold on. She has. She's a physical freak. She has. Well, she does have broad shoulders, apparently, which helps. But she has unlike many swimmers who rely on a strong kick. Ledecky often uses a two beat kick, allowing her to conserve energy in her legs while using her upper body and core to keep her body horizontal and reduce drag. So there's maybe there is some biomechanics about obviously with with Michael Phelps, like he was born to be a swimmer in terms of just his body type, he had like flippers for feet and hands. He has like water world. He has like webbed feet. So maybe that helps. But, you know, I think there is some biomechanics to that. And also she's just really fucking trains really hard. That question is tricky because it's like, yeah. Why? Why is Rory McElroy good at golf? Well, it's like you can hit the ball hard is actually interesting because Rory hits the ball about as far as anybody, but he's kind of the shortest player on the tour. Yeah, he's very strong. And the answer is, but the answer is he holds his arms out as straight as possible and swings with a broader like he's he is literally creates as much like momentum and velocity room. But like, I don't know. It's like, why is Tiger Woods good at golf? I don't know. He just is. He played a lot. Honestly, the answer is always, well, they started with a practice a lot. Yeah. Sounds tough. It's not like 54 holes a day for 35 years. Combination of like raw physical God, God given gifts with work ethic and, you know, in luck. Yeah. I don't know. Uh, it's competitiveness. Should I should I keep going here with a couple purges? Yeah. Well, we have one more sports one and then some non sports ones. Yeah. The last sports one I have is from Aaron. A bone. E bone. This is a bone. A A bone. A A bone. Yes. Correct. A run. So this is from this is about the athletics. And again, the baseball team, the baseball team, not the city, less baseball team. Yes. The team that left its lease in the team should not be named. So again, left its team in the Bay, but didn't have a stadium built. So there are no minutes in. So Aaron says currently the athletics are temporarily playing baseball in their triply stadium in Sacramento. Yeah. Instead of moving the athletics to Las Vegas, the MLB should just move the athletics from city to city every single season. So for example, in 20, traveling, traveling side show. Yeah. They're the globetrotters. They're the Oklahoma City athletics, and then they can be the next season. They could be the Nashville athletics or the Orlando athletics, and they can have a lottery system and televise it where the athletics will play each year. So but they'd have to build a baseball stadium in all these cities. Well, so Aaron wrote as long as you think about the logistics, we're going to think about how many stadiums we're going to have. You know what they should do? They should just get rid of the A's and replace them with the Savannah bananas. I know. They saw the success of the Savannah bananas can fucking sell out at anything. Fucking every one of their fucking games is sold out. Well, it was last time the A's sold out of games. It's true. Dude, I couldn't get to the lottery to get into the lottery for the Savannah bananas. I lost the first lottery for the larger lottery to get tickets for the A's. They're just playing on stilts. The flaming bats. Dude, the idea that the third out of any inning, if you catch it as a fan, if you catch a foul ball, you're out for the third is like the best rule I've ever heard. Dude, what's the rule? It's the final out of an inning. Yeah. So when there's two outs in the inning, if you foul a ball off as a batter, if a fan catches it in the stands, you're out. Oh, that's great, which is awesome. Oh, that's just so. Dude, did you see the guy who the he was the left fielder for the bananas and he caught a fly ball and did a backflip in the in like it was actually I was like, wow, this guy could actually maybe play baseball. Dude, that guy has a better arm after a backflip than Roman Anthony. From left field, any Roman Anthony. He's 11 hopping it to the home base. Dude, last week, the Savannah bananas filled the Texas A&M football stadium. Over 100,000 people showed up. Dude, they're the Globetrotters. They're so great. They're they're they're a mate. That guy is like Willy Wonka for. Who did they play? And he's like, is it like never sell? Yeah, there are as much as you want. Never selling Vince McMahon and Willy Wonka, a baby that loves baseball. They play this team called the Firefighters. It's smart. It's they do. They play the same team every time. I think yeah, they're like, is it the Globetrotters where the other team never wins? Three teams now. No, they can lose, but it's called the Fireman. And they think they're adding two more teams. But so the other guys on the other teams, are they like the understudies of the the starting lineup of the Savannah bananas? Then are they kind of like all on the same tour? I have no idea. So here are the teams. No idea. Here are the teams they play. They play primarily the party animals, the firefighters and the Texas tailgaters. The firefighter and then new to 20. I don't get the women in the stands. There we go. That's right. And then two new teams this year. The Indianapolis Clowns and the Locobeech coconuts. Locobeech. Yeah. The clowns. Wait, so there's like five. There's five teams in this league. Sorry, six teams. Do they play each other on non banana games? Is this a real league is what I'm asking? Or is this just purely like Cirque du Soleil? It's called. I don't know. I've never been to Cirque du Soleil. I really want to go. I've never been to start a fantasy league based on the bananas. Tika, I remember Tika once. I think they first take perch. You told me Cirque du Soleil is better than any sports. Dude, I'm not even kidding. When I was I was bogging for field goals about the Seahawks and I went to I went to a Cirque du Soleil thing. I was like, somebody should be fucking blogging about this because it's the greatest sporting event I've ever seen. These are the greatest athletes I've ever with. I've never been. I don't really know what it is. It actually blows your mind. The shit that they can do. It's insane. There's like three guys standing on each other's shoulders. And then a third guy swings from out of view. Does a does a triple backflip and lands on the fourth guy's shoulders. Like the shit that they do is insane. I actually don't think it's possible. I don't understand how they do it. And they do a show once a night for probably half the year. What DK just explained is one of the million reasons why the Internet has ruined everything, because that is he's right. Like that is we're so fucking numb to everything now that I'd like scroll through that at 1 a.m. Be like, oh, cool, I'll just go to the next thing. That's like the craziest thing you've ever seen. Like people who could like balance 15 spinning plates on a stick. Dude, I'm telling you. 100 percent. You could fucking have a whole life and never figure that out. And nobody gives a shit. I was like, Craig, with the spinning the spinning plates woman who's really famous, who does all the halftime shows, which, by the way, I've seen her live before at a Sonics game. She's like, on a unicycle balancing 15 plates. She's been doing it for like 30 years. You're a panda, baby. Anyway, I still fuck up. I think this morning I fucked up, put in my contacts. I like dropped my contact. I'm like, I've been doing this every day since I was in seventh grade. And I still can't get it. How the hell does she do this for every halftime show? It's insane. The people that the people that do these, you know, Cirque du Soleil and all the different like acts that are similar, it's very, very impressive. There was a woman who this is going to be hard to describe. I think it was on America's Got Talent or like one of those shows, X Factor, something I don't know. And she balances sticks on one another. Like these they're like long, like literally like branches from a tree. And she'll have a big long one and then she'll take a second one and she'll kind of balance it on it to where she can let go. And the stick is bouncing on one twig. And then she'll go on the ground and keep stacking them up. And by the end there's like 25 sticks perfectly balanced. And then she sets it down on the ground and walks away. And it is perfectly balancing. And then she just knocks it over. And it's the craziest shit you've ever seen in your life. That is actually. And then you just swipe past. I'm like, no. You don't even make it halfway through. Don't even. Yeah, I'm like, this is boring. Why isn't why isn't there like a video game playing underneath this? Why is it need for speed playing underneath so I can finish this? Oh my God. Anyway, I'll try to find that video. It blew my mind. What were we talking about? I don't know. You know, we're purges. Oh, yeah, the A's need to just be a traveling freak show. Cirque du Soleil. Oh, there we go. Hi, Fitz. Well done. Oh, the Cirque du Soleil. All right. These are these are not football purges or sports purges. These are just other purges. This is from Starstruck by London. I don't know what that means. Espoen. Espoen. I don't know. Maybe he thinks London's great. I'll tell you what Espoen thinks. OK. Espoen's take purges. Billy Joel is a talentless, rhyming, rhyming, sea shanty singer pulled the wool over the every man's eyes for 50. He's a singer. Oh, what a take. Jesus Christ. He's not Starstruck by Canada. I think Billy Joel fucked this guy's wife. I know, right? What the hell did he tell you? How it was rhyming, rhyming, sea shanty. Do you think this guy is actually like like the biggest was one day was in the past, like the biggest Billy Joel fan in the world. And he met him in a coffee shop and Billy Joel was a dick to him. Why? Wait, why did I think Billy Joel is Canadian? He's American. I don't know. He thought that either. But who's the who's the very famous generically named Canadian singer? There's got to be one. Michael Buble. How dare you, sir? Celine Dion. I'll find it. I'll find it. That's I love when people just like randomly hate like an actor. So my friend, Andrew, loves Billy Joel. His whole family loves Billy Joel and his wife fucking hates Billy Joel. So he's like not allowed to play Billy Joel anymore. Oh, wow. It was like Billy Joel, a divisive artist. I don't know. I mean, in New York, obviously, it's very popular. He's got like the resident that I forget if he's still doing it, but he just had like an endless residency at the garden. He would just play once a month at the garden indefinitely. I feel like Billy Joel is one of the more well liked. Like, I feel like if you go up to somebody like, oh, you know, I love Billy Joel, they're like, of course, of course. Of course, Billy Joel. Yeah. By the way, the name I was I confused him with is Brian Adams, another two first name guy. Because I don't really know who he was. Yeah, confused by that. Dude, Vienna. Vienna is one of Jackie's favorite songs. So good. So this is not going over well with with you guys. No, I mean, it's it caught my eye, though. We one time in was it middle school or high school? We had to write our own. We didn't start the fire, but like we'd like replace it with other historical things. It's kind of fun. I want to do an Internet. We didn't start the fire. I'm sure people have done this, but I think an amount, similar amount of crazy things have happened on the Internet since we started the fire. We didn't. What's like what's the name of the song? I feel like it has to be tweaked. We didn't see the dress. I don't know. We didn't start the firewall. Yeah, we. Oh, there you go. That was easy. We didn't start the fire. Fox. We didn't start the firewall. Oh, fuck. Fire. Fuck. Damn. Shout out. Shout out. People who still use Firefox. You know, shout out to the one person out there. To our fire. There are dozens of firefox users or women listening to the show. I one of the seven women over under seven. We know we're referring to them as the seven. Yeah, the seven. The seven women. The High Council of Women. And when we. High Council. We pray at the altar of the seven. How many Firefox users? Dude, 150 to 200 million active users. All right. Once DK just got canceled for a third time now that he disrespects Firefox. Yeah, they're coming after you. OK, I have another one here. This is from Tom G. So that guy just hates Billy Joel. Yeah, I hate Billy Joel. Didn't give any reasons. He doesn't like him. This is from Tom G. C. Shanti's ass singer. C. Shanti. Yes, Tom G's take purge is generic brand jar salsa is better than Mexican restaurant tables. Oh, OK. That's a bad take. But I think that's the hardest thing I've ever heard. That's a good hot take. It's a good hot day. He's talking about like a fucking pace. Sustenas. New York City. Paul Newman salsa. Yeah, Paul Newman salsa is pretty good, actually. He was a good salsa maker. OK, honestly, that would go well with your daily case of the year. My no, here's my take in response to this. I don't. Craig, that's fine. It's a good. It's a good. I think restaurant salsa is. I don't even like any jar salsa, basically, like it. Like I don't even bother buying it because it's just nowhere near as good as the restaurant. I think restaurants like a good Mexican restaurant, salsa is one of Earth's finest pleasures. It's fresh. Love it. Yeah, it's genuine. It's got all the like actual like they cut the veggies up earlier that day and fucking put them in there. I don't know. Yeah, I don't like. I don't like they cut the vegetables up earlier that day. OK, this one's freshness matters with salsa. Yeah, this one. The other thing that's weird about salsa is salsa in Spanish just translates to sauce, which I just always think is kind of strange. What should it translate to? That's embarrassing. I don't know. It just it makes it seem so much less like, I don't know, exotic or something. Oh, you're dipping your chip in a sauce. OK. You want to try tea, doesn't try just mean tea. I think so, actually. Yeah. So you're just saying T.T. That's incredible, which is how you get rid of hiccups. Right. I think so. Oh, dude, are we ever going to give people the answers for that? By the way, I got to do that. I forgot. There's millions of people out there right now having to pick up. I'll tell you the answer. There ain't one. We got some doctors waiting. Wait, wait. It's out. You want me to pull them up? Fucking might as well. I'll do it in the mailbag. I don't have them right now. All right. This one's from partner, partner. All right. P-Bone. It's better to be good. All cars should be the same and it's absurd that they are not. OK. It doesn't like the idea of choice in life. The the what is it? The myth of choice. What is it? Yeah, the illusion of the paradox of choice. Paradox of choice. Yeah. So he wants everyone to be driving around in like a Toyota Tacoma. Like everybody's in one like black Honda Accord. And that's it. It caught my eye. I don't agree with this tank, but it may be laugh. I won't lie. I'm going to say something. The I don't know how they work. I don't think they work very well, but the style and aesthetic of Soviet era sedans is kind of elite. They're fucking cool looking. Every time I watch like some old based based on like like a Cold War movie and we're talking like Eastern Europe, the cars they drive around in are fucking cool. Are you kidding me? They probably don't work very well, but I don't know, man. The Soviet Sedan aesthetic. They're fucking sick looking. Look at these. They're like square boxy. I don't know. I get this. I get this. I kind of just think they're the coolest looking cars. And you kind of picture like a giant Russian man who can barely fit in there driving a smoke and a cigarette. Yeah. I don't think that they probably run that well. Austin just texted us that aerodynamics ruined car design. That's actually a good take. Because everything is so curved and sleek now. That's why we have the Tesla door handles. Yeah, because everyone's driving like a nerf football now. And instead I want some big chunky blocky thing. This is this is an offshoot. This is an offshoot of my take. I basically think the square aesthetics were the best. I mean, I just think older cars in general look also cars used to have more color. Now every car is just like slate gray and slate blue. And this is my this is my big tank is I do think we need to bring colors back. I don't know why we got rid of them. Grays every car. If you drive millennial gray millennial gray and gray and beige. Everything's fucking gray and silver and dark gray and a little gray. And it's like a dog's vision. It's insane. And I got a suitcase. It's like a suitcase. Every suitcase is fucking black and gray. You know what I did? I brought a bright blue suitcase. I did notice that. Yeah. I was like, you know why? I'm statement with that. It's like you look at the baggage claim next time you're going through. And it's like everyone's suitcases black or gray. And I'm like, I want to find it easier. But I'm like, bring bring cool colors back. I like like who the hell is the last person who brought like a bright green car? But you should be able to do that. They're trying to muzzle us. They don't want individualism. That's exactly what this guy is trying to do. They want you to stand out. They want you to fear standing out. This guy wants everyone to have the same car, Craig. Yeah. Maybe he lives in Soviet Russia. Yeah. Sorry. I just bought a very colorful golf bag and I'm enjoying it. What color? It's multicolored. It's like green and blue and red. I love that for you. Yeah. Are you playing? Well, how are you playing? I'm it's like now now the season has just begun. Usually it's like late April, early May is when I really start to get into things. I played 36 holes the weekend of the draft and I played OK. So that's what you were. Yeah, weekend of the draft. I was like, Kate, Kate and wet Jen. What's his name? Kate, what? Yeah, what? Yeah, getting the call in the draft. It's we it's we we. Jen, I don't know. I think so. So the the wet. No, the no context ringer in Instagram account like was correct to be on this. I got it wrong. Wet Jen stats. We did that. Wet Jen stats. I'm going to do wet Jen stats. Are they as good as pickets? That's what I'm going to get. Wet Jen's Web Gems. Hmm. Web Gems are Web Gems. I like I like those still exist. Yeah, they do somewhere. They do. Does he the Sports Center still do top 10? They do. That's what I can't believe they never put that shit on the Internet. That was what a miss. I know that was like the greatest. What can you imagine having the top 10? Dude, Web Gems. Think about it. Top 10. Top 10. Worldwide web appearing from culture is like the beginning of the Internet rooting our lives. I know. I just love SC Top 10. It was the only thing that mattered the whole day for me. And also like let you know, genuinely, it was the most official way to figure out like what happened in sports that week. It defined it defined the day and the week. Yeah. Well, every day, though, they have the top 10 plays from yesterday and then the top 10 plays of the week. They have the top 10 for a few years. The but 40 for 40. I was great. Oh my God. They put that shit on Instagram. How hard is it? Anyway. OK. A couple more here. We already touched. We got one from another one from BFP that said men don't really need balls in their forties. We talked about that. But I want to actually do a follow up to a purge. We talked about that already. Yeah. Men should get their ball just balls straight removed. Then you know, you'll get in the nuts. That's true. You have to worry about. I think it was like you look weird as you look weird. That ball. Balls don't look weird. I because for just because it feels right. If you could if you can make sure that you still get the appropriate amount of testosterone and whatever else testicles do. If you can figure that out, you don't need them. I like them. I want them. I want to keep them. How dare you don't. Don't try and take my balls away. OK. Literally, you guys have seen the Rick and Morty where they like let the dogs talk and they're just like, where are our balls? Where what did you do with them? Anyway, this was from Drew. Debone. Drew. Someone said it of take purchase a couple weeks ago that I love that was Lions are the worst cats. Yeah, which was incredible. And so the take was basically Lions are watered down cats for dog people. They hunt. They're lazy, lazy. So drew wrote in. During Tom's excellent take purge about Lions being the worst cats, Danny Kelly said, but Lions have a good roar. It turns out that even the Lions roar is just a result of great PR. Oh, is it not real? When people think of the lion roar, they think of the MGM lion right at Roars before movies start. But the MGM lion roar is actually a tiger. Oh, shit. Real. It actually does make sense. I can I can see that now. So this is a quote from Mark Manjean, who is the sound editor responsible for making the MGM. Whoa. Mark Manjean's website. Mark Manjean gave an interview toward the end of his life. And I'm going to read a quote now from the sound editor who made that MGM intro. This is a quote from him. The sound that one would hear when a lion roars is something more akin to Mark Manjean to a giant yawn and that awe inspiring open mouth gape is actually accompanied by something sounding more like a beast that wants to take a nap. Oh, exactly. Exactly. It's a big yawn. And then Mark Manjean, so he writes, I thought that's not really going to inspire a movie audience's world round. And I felt it was treason not to use lion sounds, but they just didn't sound all that terrifying. So I substituted smack. His lips. Yeah. I just substituted tiger roars. They sounded bigger and more majestic. That's the truth. That's all I have to say. That actually does make so much sense now that now that I'm picturing when I've heard tigers roaring or whatever, I'm like, oh, that that's what I was thinking of a lion. That's that's movie magic. Shit, man. What else were they lying to us about? What else? Yeah, dude. But now I can't. Now you're right, DK. Now that I see it, I'm like, yeah, that is a tiger making that sound over a lion. Lions are lion. They'd be lion out here. They'd be lying. Why are you always lying? They're lying to you. They're lying on the ground. I got lazy. Dude, lions kind of suck. Yeah. Again, once again, when you're five feet from a lion, I'd love to know if you had the same take. Well, on that note, we actually got another purge about you and killing animals in a safari. Killing animals. Well, you said which animal could you fight and win if your mother's life was on the line. Right. And I contended that an that an ostrich and I would go 10 rounds. So we have a very compelling and not we've a very compelling argument. It's like bow tie, double knot. Yeah, I'd have that thing looking like a pretzel. We have a compelling case here that the animal you should pick is a cheetah. OK, I once I saw one of those there. Didn't want to didn't want to deal with wall. The ox will want to tassel. They're not that big, but they're not that big. So they don't have so all. So basically, best. But. Our Benita fish. They run 70 miles an hour. So yeah, they're pretty fast. This guy's problem. The take with this, you could kill a cheetah's cheetahs are basically just the Xavier worthy of the animal kingdom. Wow, they can run really fast, but they're not really good. Beat in close combat. The running doesn't really help you if it's one on one combat. I would lose to a fucking cheetah. What are we? Well, here's a better chance. Here's why. So they don't have retractable claws. The claws are basically just cleats, but they can't retract, which means because of all the running, the claws are actually pretty dull by the unlike every other animal with their little feet knives. Like they're not basically they could hurt you and bite you. But I mean, they're fucking teeth. Yes, but it's not. But they're the smallest animals. The small scared of the teeth. But the. Yeah, OK. But that's what Craig's got to use his hands for the reach. Craig's got good reach. It's just like having the jaw and like, ah, exactly. Well, the bite of the pounds per square inch got no chance to hold. Your fingers are just lopped off at that point. Well, probably your finger. Don't put your hands in a cheetah's mouth is the cheetah. Well, I'm glad you asked that, Dika, the cheetah's pounds per square inch on their bite force, only four hundred. A tiger is 1050. I feel like four hundred could still do the job. I think so, too. I don't think like I like sometimes I'll scratch myself like cutting up cardboard. You know, I think you fucking climb trees. Like it would destroy me. Like I've gotten a paper cut before. That's really painful. I feel like a cheetah's teeth would would not go well for me. Feel like. I don't know, man. I don't know about this. I think I'd rather take on an ostrich. Why are there. There's no. What? Why isn't the cheetah more popular as a sports mascot? Like a sports team name? Why are there no cheetahs? Because they're bitches and you could beat them because they're bitches. Yeah, you could beat them up. I don't know. Right. You could beat them up. I'm sorry. Did you say cheetahs are bitches? That's why I get me cheetahs. I don't know. It's interesting. Well, the Cheetos really got it. The Cheetos really made that kind of seem he seems like he'd party pretty cool, like party pretty hard. That Cheetos mascot. You think that's the coolest. Being the fastest land. Yeah. Like why aren't they? Why isn't there like them? You know, whatever. So what's all the fucking wildcats? So you get a hundred wildcats. Yeah, be a cheetah or a leopard. There's no leopards also. That's also not a common team name. Why? Yeah, Calvin, favorite animal is a leopard. Dude, leopards are sick. When I was an Africa, I saw one in a tree. Or maybe it's Jaguar. He likes Jaguars more. He loves all big cats. I think Jaguar's. So he's a barstool fan. Sorry. Wait, did you say Jaguar and leopard are the same thing? No, leopards and jaguars are not. Well, they're distinguished by geography, spots and build. So they're similar, but not the same. But a Jaguar is it the same as a cougar? We've done this before. No, Panthers the same as a cougar. Panthers, a Jaguar and mountain lion and Puma and some other things. Panther is a Jaguar. I think. Hold on. Now I'm not sure. Panthers and Jaguars is mountain lions and and. Mount lions are different. I've seen mountain lions, I think. Mount lions are wild. Craig, you see a mountain lion in L.A. the other day. There are mountain lions running around L.A. occasionally. Big ones. Sorry, I was thinking cougars versus mountain lions, which are the same thing. Cougars or Mount Lions and Puma's like Mount Lion in the car for Ricky Bobby just meant the same. It's got to be a cougar. Yeah, there's a cougar in there. Tennessee Titans did Tennessee cheetahs. I'd be into that. The helmet. I like the idea that Titans not good enough for you. A Titan stronger than the gods. Yeah, as I imagine, like, you know, it's the spotted helmet. Would that be cooler, Lane? Oh, I think kind of sick. I like that. The Bengals got the Bengal stripes. I don't know. The Bengals have it's pretty great. The Ram with the spiral Ram. The Rams kind of sucks. Like, why? I like the Rams. A Ram sucks. Why does a Ram get to be a team name and not a cheeto? I have no idea why the Ram gets to be a cheeto. It's crazy to me. I feel like that was from when we were more like religious country. Rams in the Bible. Like, shit, we sacrificed them. That's crazy. Ram. Ram is also I am waiting to see a Ram, man. Are we going to get you going? Little Ram. You should read every Ram's. I'll fuck you up, man. Should we rename every team? We should rename every team this summer. Let's do that. Titans back to the Oilers. Fuck it. It's cool. Yeah. I think niche weird names like Oiler is cool. You're going to get canceled, too, though. Why? Because oil is bad. Big oil. I said niche weird names. Neech like oil. A niche business. You know what I mean. You know what I mean. I got this little niche business. It's called oil. OK. Last one here. And we'll get out of here. Let's do it. All right. This is an email. This is from Jesse. J.Bow. Jesse. I think bagels are the most overrated food of all time. OK. Is there a follow up or is that it? There's a follow up. So Jesse writes, I said this the other day in front of my friends. I have never seen a table of full grown men go into a complete psychosis faster than when I spat out the sentence that bagels are overrated. I was like it was suddenly fighting off 10 zombies from 28 days later. Everyone's voices instantly raised, followed by six people asking me if I have ever had a New York bagel and demanded to know where exactly I had a New York bagel in order to accurately judge me. I didn't even say I don't like bagels. I like bagels. They're fine. They're a little too ready. Probably too dense. And when you make a sandwich with one, it's a mess and the bagel sandwich, you take a bite and unless it's wrapped in paper, the guts of the sandwich is squirt out the side. I prefer toast. This sounds like something I would say. And it does. That's why I read it. And Jesse writes, this one really got me. People can't seem to handle this take. You need to love bagels the way other people like bagels. This is a good category of things that trigger people. Seemingly innocuous things that really trigger people. Saying bagels are overrated. Because I might have the right bagel. My initial reaction was like, terrible take. I love bagels. But hyphens is a New Yorker. So maybe you have more visceral, you have a connection to bagels from growing up and stuff like that. Yeah. It is true. The first thing I'd say is, well, clearly you just don't know the New York bagels, which also the New York water being part of it. I just think it's the biggest scam. Derogatory. I'd go fucking away. That's true. But everyone's like, oh, it's the water. I'm like, yeah. But I think we have reached the point where like regional food items being better in a certain area, I think that's over. I think we've just reached a point now where every major city can just do. We have the science. Yeah. You can just find a good bagel in every major city. You can find good pizza in every major city. This is going to be triggering. Because everyone's like, oh, it's the water. I'm like, maybe it's because you had it when you were four. And you lived there. I will say, I mean, the difference between like a shitty store-bought pre-packaged bagel and a fresh bagel is massive. The problem, again, I agree with what you're saying. Like, there are good bagels in DC. There are good bagels in LA. The problem is it's not as many good bagels around you. So what's the good bagel place in LA? Like, no was bagels as good. The point, though, is it defeats the purpose, which is you're not supposed to drive 35 minutes to get a fucking bagel. You should be walking no more than 11 minutes to get a bagel. Totally. And it's about the ubiquity of them in New York. But also, that's just New York, because it's a very easy walkable city. I mean, yes. But the point is, in LA, they have bagels. It's called a taco, which is a ubiquitous food available everywhere of which anyone you trip into is probably going to be really good. Any taco in LA is probably good. Everyone's got their favorite tacos. Yeah. And it's like the pizza in New York, it's not about going to get the best pizza in the city. It's that any pizza in New York is probably really good. You're never more than 15 minutes from a great pizza or a great bagel. And that's what you need to find. It's not like in Texas where you're like barbecue. You'll go a long way to get the best barbecue. And it's not like that. I do think that we've reached a critical mass with food reviewing. I don't think food can get any better than it already is. And I think where there's a bubble going on with these people who travel around these food influencers and they go to some restaurant and they're like, trying the viral chicken, crispy chicken sandwich. And then they bite into it and it's like, the slaw really balances out the heat from the sandwich and the crunch of the chicken. It's like, that can't get any better. You go and you try it and you're like, this can only be so good. It can only be a chicken breast fried in batter with vegetables and a sauce. And the video makes you think that it will be a euphoric experience. And then you go and you eat it and you're like, yes, it is good, but it can't meet the expectation that the internet sets. It's impossible. It's true. It's a bubble. It's a bubble. You know what I want to see? I want to see someone go and review, just go and eat stuff in the supermarket. I just, the reviews are all, it's always like everyone's obsessed with crunch. It's like, listen to this crunch on this chicken tender. It's like, okay. I like their little ASMR fucking microphones right next to it. It's like the judges on like Great British Baking Show. And I'm like, they can be fucking lying. They don't get to, I don't get to taste it. I have no idea. They can be making this shit. Can I give a take about, please generally food shows while great? I don't like watching them just because it makes me so hungry. That's like such a, like a, that's like a cringy mom take to man. What are you talking about? I don't like watching them because it's not enjoyable to watch because then I get so hungry, I just have to fucking eat. Is that real or are you kind of just making a joke? No, I'm like, I, I, it's not enjoyable for me to watch during my peak TV watching time, which is like 9 30 at night because then I'm just like, oh fuck, I'm so hungry now. I don't watch, I mean, if I'm watching them before a meal, then sure, maybe it's the greatest thing ever. But if you're, but what if you like just ate dinner? Is it enjoyable then or no? No, cause then you're full. I don't know. Have to expect, I'm like, like I'll watch like Anthony Bourdain shows, amazing shows. But I'm like, fuck, now I'm just want to drink a beer and fucking eat some salty food or something. And I'm like, it's 9 30 at night. I'm going to gain 30 pounds if I continue watching this fucking show. I've never understood that. I don't know. People are like, oh, it makes me so hungry. I'm like, well, fucking delicious looking. It's more, it's more like my time to watch TV is so limited now that it's usually like 10 o'clock at night and I can't be eating fucking food at 10 o'clock. Yeah, I had In-N-Out at midnight, two nights ago. And it fucked me up for. Yeah, it's like your sleep is fucked. The next day I woke up, I like didn't eat till noon. The next day I tried to go on a run in the morning. It was, it was, I felt like a, felt like a fatty. Yeah. I was a mess. Craig, you were very upset with that take. I, to be honest, I've just, I've heard that so often and I'm like, that's just like, I don't know. It's too effective. It makes me hungry. Okay. It's all. They're good shows though, objectively. I just can't watch them. I'm gonna end this show now. We're gonna have another mailbag next week. Email or I actually don't know which of these episodes is running first, but we're recording this May 7th. It's the same day as the mailbag. So I don't know which I'm gonna get married in between. Thank you to DK. Thank you to Craig. Slip that in there. Huge flex. I did. Thank you to Carlos. Thank you, Austin. Thank you, Abu. Thank you, Cam. Thank you everybody. Also, I'm gonna do some preemptive thank yous because a couple of people very helpful with my wedding. I want to thank Hank's Oyster Bar in Washington, DC. Absolutely phenomenal work. Thank you to Hank. Hank's Oyster Bar. You should have waited. What if they blow it? I trust him. That's how much I trust him. Thank you to Nate. Thank you to Leah. Thank you to the staff at Hank's Oyster Bar. Phenomenal work. And I want to thank Muni on 14th Street in DC. If you live in DC, 14th Street, Muni. Great bar. Honestly, best sports bar in the city. Shout out to Muni. Thank you. 11 out of 10. Yeah. And of course, thank you, Lauren. Lauren, thank you, Billy Joel. The goat. The American artist named Billy Joel. Talentless, rhyming, rhyming, C-shanty. Piano man, give me a fucking break. C-shanties. Oh, that's good. Go back to your shanties. Go back to your shanty, Billy Joel. That's pretty good. Goodbye, everyone. You must be 21 plus and present in select states. For Kansas in affiliation with Kansas Star Casino, or 18 plus and present in DC, Kentucky, or Wyoming. Gambling problem, call 1-800-Gambler, or 1-800-MY-Reset. 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