Otaku's Anonymous

Is Fire Force BETTER Than JJK?? - Otakus Anonymous Episode #152

114 min
Mar 11, 20263 months ago
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Summary

This episode of Otaku's Anonymous features extensive anime discussion comparing Fire Force and JJK, with deep dives into recent episodes of Vigilantes, Sentence to Be a Hero, Hell's Paradise, and Freerun. The hosts debate animation quality, character development, and fan service while playing a game ranking the most hated anime characters.

Insights
  • JJK's anime adaptation consistently exceeds its manga source material through extended fight choreography and visual enhancement, suggesting anime studios can meaningfully improve upon original source material
  • Fan service in anime can be justified through thematic relevance, but execution matters—poorly integrated fan service actively damages viewer engagement more than well-animated action sequences
  • Domain expansion mechanics in JJK function as narrative devices that create compelling mini-game scenarios, elevating fight sequences beyond traditional combat choreography
  • Anime character hatred rankings correlate more with screen time and narrative impact than moral severity of actions, as evidenced by Zenitsu ranking higher than Hisoka despite less egregious behavior
  • Consistent character-driven storytelling and world-building (Sentence to Be a Hero) can sustain viewer interest better than episodic monster-of-the-week formats despite lower animation budgets
Trends
Anime studios investing heavily in fight choreography as primary differentiator from manga source materialIncreased fan discourse around animation quality and production values as primary quality metricGrowing appreciation for understated, melancholic storytelling in fantasy anime over pure action spectacleCharacter design consistency and visual coherence becoming critical viewer retention factorsAnime adaptation teams using extended fight sequences as opportunity to add original content and improve pacingFan communities organizing around specific character hatred rankings and comparative quality debatesShift toward globe-trotting narratives in anime rather than Japan-exclusive or fictional settingsDomain expansion mechanics becoming expected narrative tool in power-system animeIncreased scrutiny of fan service integration and its impact on narrative credibility
Topics
Anime adaptation quality versus manga source materialFight choreography and animation techniques in modern animeCharacter design and visual consistency in animeFan service integration and narrative justificationDomain expansion mechanics as narrative devicesPacing and episode structure in seasonal animeCharacter development through backstory revelationAnime fandom discourse and character ranking systemsProduction budget allocation in anime studiosUnderstated versus spectacle-driven storytellingVillain characterization and audience hatred metricsVoice acting and character perceptionAnime setting diversity and global narrativesMini-game mechanics in supernatural animeAnime studio reputation and animator retention
Companies
MAPPA
Discussed as the animation studio producing JJK with exceptional fight choreography and visual quality
Demon Slayer production committee
Referenced as comparison point for animation quality and fan engagement in recent anime
Netflix
Criticized for narrative approach requiring excessive plot exposition due to viewer distraction
Disney Plus
Mentioned as streaming platform featuring anime content and original series
People
Gege Akutami
JJK manga creator whose work is being adapted and enhanced by anime production team
Masashi Kishimoto
Naruto creator cited as inspiration source for JJK character design and mechanics
Akira Toriyama
Dragon Ball creator referenced in discussion of manga industry legacy and influence
Kyle Hebert
English voice actor for Fat Gums in My Hero Academia Vigilantes anime
Quotes
"JJK's anime is better than its manga. That's just, there's no way to argue that point."
HostApproximate 2:45:00
"Fire Force is the king of the season because of this episode. People love this episode."
HostApproximate 2:50:00
"Sentence to Be a Hero is my To Be Hero X. Every single week, it just delivered the best episode we ever seen of anime."
HostApproximate 1:30:00
"The more we know about our modern day society, the more Hostel starts to look like a documentary."
HostApproximate 0:15:00
"Wouldn't it make sense that like 10 years later, there's a better thing? Wouldn't we want a better thing?"
HostApproximate 2:40:00
Full Transcript
I feel like Bagonia is one of those movies where it's like everyone's like, oh, you should watch it. And then I'm like, I don't wanna watch Emma Stone get all slimy. You're like, I'd rather watch Happiness. I'd rather watch anything else than Emma Stone getting her head shaved bald and just getting real gooped up. I agree, she does look... Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's the magnet for your microphone there. Oh, yours isn't even, is yours on? Oh, I'm just gonna have it. You got a little green light there? Yeah. Oh, okay, look at that. Look at that, you're on there. Blink. Cause you went to the, oh, no, you didn't even go to the Bagonia. You went to the, the opener and you didn't even go. Yeah, cause you didn't. Well, I don't. And no one would go with me. I got you. Unfortunately, not a big selling point of like, hey, you wanna see the wettest Emma Stones ever been. The wettest, boldest and most chapped. Yeah. And it's like, I just, I don't know. Maybe I'm dumb. Maybe I'm stupid. I literally just showed you the first episode of Blue Mountain State. Yeah. I don't like art house movies. I was just like, oh, it's so oven-god. Yeah. Like Skin of a Rink. I'm not gonna watch that. I've also not seen that, but this is a good portion of our podcast where you criticize movies. Not even seen. You haven't seen Green Night. Stupid. I saw that. I didn't like it at all. I like Red Night more when I go to medieval times. Bagonia, dumb name. Sounds like a fucking cured meat. Sounds like a dumb ass flower. Yeah. The one about Mr. Fox on an island, stupid movie. The Fantastic Mr. Fox. Your own. Your dad are all. Puppets are stupid. Fantastic Mr. Fox is great. It's very sad. Whatever you say. All I've ever seen is him looking at a fox in the distance and he's like, Kenneth's lupus. Yeah. And he goes, vulpis, vulpis. Yeah. And then nothing happens. I don't like it. I've never seen anything made by that fucking guy who all of his movies feature the same three people and they're always filled with whimsy and like. Wes Anderson? Yeah. Any Wes Anderson movie, stupid. He made the Fox one. Oh, did he? That makes sense. I knew I had my biases for a reason. Fucking what else? What else is on the no-nick watch list here? Keep it coming. Oh. You know a movie? You know a movie? All right. Ooh, this is gonna be a hot take here. I watched it. I don't get the hype for it. Okay. What's the one where the girl gets her head knocked off by a street sign? Bologna. Bologna? It's a- Hereditary. Yeah, hereditary. Hereditary's not fucking scary. It's confusing and I don't like it. It's more of a sad than a scary. It's not scary. It's the scariest movie I've ever made. No, it's not. No, it's very not scary. It's just sad and the ending's really bad, but I love that movie. It's like, it's like, oh, it's all been like, which cold the entire time? Then he puts it on like a crown and there's a bunch of ladies and I don't get it. I don't get what they were going for. It's way cooler if it's actually hereditary and the family's just like depressed and anxious and going nuts. Yeah, just give me like a bloodline curse because somebody three generations ago kicks the wrong person in a fight. That's what I'm looking for. I'm looking for hereditary fucking sadness. You know what the scariest movie of all time is? Go on. There's a scene where, fuck, there's a scene where a lawnmower falls on a guy's face. Sinister. Sinister. Oh dude, Sinister's the scariest movie in the history of movies that are the descent. Oh, the descent where they're in a cave. Oh dude, the descent. And there's ghouls. Fucked me up as a kid. You know what, also hostile. I saw hostile when I was much too young. I saw hostile in like 32 parts via YouTube clips. That is it. The OG movie cut up into like 90 second clips was hostile. You're like, okay, I'm on part 50. God damn it, where's 57? Oh, they deleted 57. 57 got trademarks, the other 55 didn't. Yeah, that movie, it's just people getting tortured in rooms. And then it's rich people betting on what they're gonna say as they are dying. Oh, I have kids. I bet the over on how many times kids would be mentioned, which is fucking terrible. But the more we know about our modern day society, the more hostile start to look like a documentary. Yeah, it's not super unrealistic. No, not at all. So yeah, way too many horror movies as a kid. I had an overactive. Awesome, I was super into watching top 10 videos on like scariest monsters and like pretty much just that. Yeah, I was gonna say it was like the one. Breakdowns of saw traps. Oh, breakdowns of saw traps. I would listen, if somebody presented me with a video of like highest likelihood to lowest likelihood of surviving a saw trap, I would, I walked in for three hours. Yeah, I agree. Every single saw trap and like how you can get out of it and your likelihood of surviving. And then like this is the easiest, this is the hardest. They should do every saw trap ranked based on the likeliness that I would give up the second I wake up. What was the one where he had to like, it was like the key was behind his eye. Oh, with the big Venus fly trap around him? Yeah. Or the one where all of his ribs, there was one saw movie where they're like, he's specifically rigging all the traps so they're impossible to get out of. There was also one where it was like, there's a bomb on the other side of the room. And if you don't get out of the room by the time like you'll get blown up and there's a table. I could just flip the table on the side and like hit from the bomb and would have been fine. And you're just like, oh no. There's the one with the key in your eye. It would take me a little bit before I'm like, all right, you know what? I'm not cutting into my eye, nevermind. Because like you wake up and you're like, what's going on? One of my eyes is closed. I have this big thing. That one seems more doable than you wake up and there's an apparatus hooked onto each and every one of your ribs. Oh, to every one of your ribs. That was specifically designed so that you would not survive. Right. It's like, you got it. Well, no, I think it was like, she passed and then his protege shows up. And it's like, actually you lose anyway. Like you could pass it, but then you would just die anyway. 100%. There's one where a dude has a bunch of like bull rings in like every joint of his body, including his jaw. Oh, and you just don't rip them off. That's the bomb one. Yeah, that's the bomb. Get like half of those out and then just like reach over and touch the button and wait for the police. All you need to do, all you need to do, dude, I literally when it comes down to it and the thing that the trap I remember the most is like when she gets thrown in a needle pit, probably the easiest one in the history of saw traps. Well, then you got to find the needle. You got to find, you sure you got to find the needle in the needle stack. That saw two is mostly like a bunch of fun interactive games rather than traps. Like that one's like, there's a pit full of hyperdermic needles. Use hyperdermic needles. Use hyperdermic needles. Find the key before you get aids. Yes, literally. And then there's one that's like, it's a little box and you got to like. This design, by the way, from Jigsaw. I mean, just a bunch of prep. Oh, you got to dig that hole. You got to find all those hyperdermic needles. You're just going around with like a sharp disposal thing and you're just, are you just stealing it from hospitals? Dude, it's the same thing with like, I feel like we're talking about this last week. You got to have a PA. What team of PA's? Well, it's like, just like apply for an engineering job. Oh yeah. Like you are probably the world's best engineer. You're creating like quad twisting crucifix. Every once is one of his traps failed. Like he is literally like, they must be testing them on something. Like the QA on these traps is incredible. Build a bridge. Build several bridge. Build a bridge out of people. Why not? If there has to be blood and guts involved, look, let's just get you going in the right direction here, Jigsaw. I love it. It's so much fun. I can't do it anymore. I can't do it anymore. Anyways, hello everybody. Hi. Big week of anime to talk about this week here. Got a new episode from everything. Fire Force, Vireen, Vigilante. Is this the last Vireen? Or the second to last Vireen? I think there's only eight and that was a controversy. What? Let me check. No way this is the last one. This shouldn't be. This shouldn't be the last Vireen. I feel like this is, well actually maybe this could be the last Vireen because they're kind of setting up the final battle against Snakeboy. 10 episodes. So we have three more. So we have three more. Okay, gotcha. I could maybe see this being the last episode, but it's not. We also have Vigilante, JJK. Send us to be a hero and Hell's Paradise. So we got a lot to talk about this week. And we got a brand new game from the Batman. And at the end of this podcast, me and Danny for all of our lovely, lovely Patreon listeners are going to read chapter two of I Will Survive. The Zootopia Abortion comic. Apparently there's like five chapters and everybody's been begging, pleading for chapter two. So once again, I'll be reprising my role as Judy Hopps. I'll be reprising my role as Judy Hopps and you will be reprising your role as Nick. Gone. Parker. I think Zootopia. Oh, because Judy Hopps. Nick Slide. Yeah, you're right. It's Nick McGillicottie. Yeah, Nick, Nick. Oh God, Fox? I don't know what's his name. Wild. Wild. Yeah. Could have applied to any animal. Still a hint. Judy is Hopps. She's literally, she's named her for being a bunny and he's just, Foxes are wild. Dumb. You think when they come with a name like that, they're like, all right, we can't have any other rabbit characters. We've used up all of the last names. We could think of other than Bunny. Yeah, Lola Bunny. You got. No, I mean like within, just within Zootopia. Oh, gotcha. You can't give them the last name Bunny. No, God, no. But I mean, Lola Bunny got Bunny. Bugs Bunny. Bugs Bunny. Lola. Miss Rabbit. They related. Oh, Lola Bunny and Bugs Bunny? Yeah, are they married? Have the same fucking last name. That's a really good question. I have two friends who are in the process of getting married and they have the same last name already. Yeah. What's their name? Both have last name, Kim. Wow. Yeah. There's like not a huge variety of last names in Korea. But yeah, so they're both, they're getting married. They're the Kims. And also that's fucking heavily convenient. But yes, so. I had, when I went to. Does that mean Judy, if they got married, she'd be Judy Wilde? Damn right. Damn right. She'd keep her last name though. Probably. She's a strong woman. I guess, yeah, it does get confusing when like a predator marries a prey and they end up with like. You don't have to say the whole thing. Yeah, right. We learned from I will. I don't want to say Fred. I should have known for this Fred-Prey relationship. It's like, I feel like I'm reading age gap stuff. You're kind of, I feel like it gets confusing when it's like, I guess the comic is established that it's usually same species marriages. But it gets confusing when it's like, hi, I'm Judy Apotomous and I'm a rabbit. Apparently, how old do you think Judy hops is? Fresh out of the police academy. Probably like 25, 26. Pretty good. Yeah. Judy hops 24. All right. What do you think the average lifespan of a bunny is? 16 years. Of a bunny? Well, they stopped being bunnies. domestic rabbits generally live for eight to 12 years. Wow, Judy hops is long in the tooth here. Well, but it's probably rabbit years. Gotcha. She was probably a child for like a year and a half. How old did Nick Wilde is? 39. That'd be a big, I guess they do technically never, I haven't seen Zootopia too. Did they hook up in Zootopia too? They'd never like kiss. I was gonna say, because Nick Wilde is 32 years old. You're on a- He's so 30s, Cody. He's got like the same t-shirt he's been wearing. He's like, it's got a collar on it. What the fuck do you want from me? Yeah, 39 was an obvious exaggeration, but I did think 30s. 30s when he started getting into like crime. I'm listening, I'm a year away from 30 and I'm just, I'm like, I'm walking into stores. I'm like, why the fuck am I paying for things? You know, I'm like, I'm sorry. I'm just like, I'm looking at like $500 pickle ball balls. $500. $500 pickle ball balls. Oh, paddles. My God, even that. And I'm like, this is going in a pocket. Just get a fucking- This is going in my pants. Ping pong paddle. I'm just, yeah, I just start playing miniature style, baby. No, there's no reason to spend- $500. Dude, the pickle ball is insane. It's just, I have like the same paddle I've had for like three years. And everyone's like, oh, this medal, this medal is better spin and more power. I'm like, shut the fuck, shut up. There's a fucking hobby that gets me off the treadmill. This is the only reason I play this is cardio. Right. But yeah, is that a controversial age gap? That's the real question. 432. That's right in the cusp. Right in the cusp. Once you're past 23, I feel like- But when she was 18, he was- Uh, 20. When he was 18 or when she was 18? When she was 18, he would be 26? That's not great. That's not great. I feel like once you're 24, I'm okay with you dating literally any age. Yeah. Like, I don't- Leonardo DiCaprio would love you. I don't feel any more mature. I guess I'm an outlier being my Pokeball obsession. But I don't feel any more mature or any less cynical or more cynical now than when I was 24. 24 is definitely the cutoff. 24 felt like the peak of my adulthood. I literally felt my penogland calcify. When I turned 24, I was fucking- My I don't feel any more mature than when I was 24. It gets better. You know when like in middle school, there was a big message in campaign to like, like day people growing up who were in the closet, it gets better. Age is just- That was specific. It gets better. Like once you go to college and you move on, it's easier to be gay in yourself. Beyond that, it gets worse. Beyond college, it's just all, it's a downward, downward slope. But all right, let's get into our anime this week. There's one. What's our worst episode, dog? That's not even a question. Not even a question. Not even a question. Then I'm gonna say- How are you shocked? How are you- It's not even that I'm shocked. It's not even that I'm shocked. It's just I genuinely, we're watching so much. I watched two episodes on Thursday, one episode on Friday, two episodes on Sunday, and then one episode on Monday. And so like everything is spread out. I'm gonna say it's, I have no idea where you could be here. Is it vigilantes? Yeah, 100%. It's vigilantes? 100%. With a big old fucking, we're doing dance number. Another nothing episode. Can I be so fucking for real about vigilantes, please? BFR with me? Dude, they were, listen, like Pop, Pop's first off staying in this college student's house. Just after hours. For no real reason. She's like taking phone calls in Koichi's apartment. It's like, they're not her parents. I guess they just hang out. I guess they're just friends. Yeah, of course. Weird still. She's like 14, he's like 20. She's just kicking into his house. And he's like, oh, hey, sorry. This 14 year old seemed busy in my studio apartment here. I guess I'll go hang out on the streets with all my actual age appropriate friends. But then like, she's like, oh, she's been practicing for months for this Skyag event here. And then they get to the Skyag event. And there's every hero in the world there to say goodbye to this possible, this possible like a sex assaulter. Every Japanese hero was like, bye, Captain Slybren. Yeah, this dude who was drowning in like accusations and losses. And because he's got the, you got fucking OJ Simpson's lawyer and fucking the Japanese version of OJ Simpson's lawyer. I got you off all the charges. And then fucking, of course, we got the best genius out there making bikinis for all these 14 year olds. But then Pop Step comes out and she's been practicing for weeks, months for this routine. And then it's, and that's the whole fucking, that's the whole thing. The whole thing, I have to listen to minutes, like for tens of minutes about how Pop Step is training for this event. And it's three seconds of choreography. Yeah, you want it more? I want a fucking idol show with how much we're talking about or prepping for this. Yeah, bring back the crabs. Make it a crab tastic fiasco. The crab girls here, we're not doing crab becks anymore. We're done with the crabs. Did you recognize Fat Gums voice actor? No. You didn't? Kyle Hebert, does that mean anything to you? Is that our friend? No. Oh. I mean, he was, we share our last name, technically. My father's name, last name was Hebert. Kyle Hebert, I was like, why does his name sound so familiar? Adult Gohan. Okay. Do you hear it now? Did you read it or watch it in English? Yeah, huh. Like literally he's just doing Gohan. Like it's not even, I was like, why the fuck does that sound so familiar? Oh, it's Gohan. That's crazy. It is adult Gohan down the middle. That's crazy. You can still do it. Enemy voice actors are so crazy to me. Once you were like playing teenage boys in 1992 and are still playing now. Macy Williams playing Naruto at like 50 years old. Her name is, there's no way her name's Macy Williams. You think you have Arya Stark? I read that's, wait, what? I ate Naruto voice actor English. Oh, male Flanagan, my bad. Real close, principle Perry. Yeah, Macy Williams is Arya Stark. Yeah, she is baby. Man, she's not acting. Nobody from Game of Thrones is acting. No, they don't really, John Snoo. Even Amelia Clark who was like getting some gigs is just off the map. Yeah, apparently she's, I was talking to a friend who's like works in production. Apparently you can get her for like a movie real cheap. Oh, let's go. Yeah, so have you ever needed for a short film? Speaking of short films, when's yours out? Sometime this month, we got the music done. I literally just need a VFX person to throw some graffiti onto like the side of a wall. I thought that was why you went to New York so you could run around with your Ruffians and graffiti. No, that was like a bunch of, we got stuff like that. There's a shot we have in New York that is like the side of a subway wall. And we like need some graffiti on it. And finding VFX person has been weirdly difficult. I feel like I have like 900 people email me a month being like, my name is blank, I'm an editor, I do VFX specialist, I'll just start forwarding. Yeah, I guess so. I'll take my fucking email out of my YouTube here. Fucking, yeah, this was just another like day in the life ass vigilantes episode. Did you see Deku? No. At the Captain Celebrity event, Deku and his mom are there. Oh, that's hype. They're in the crowd, it's like young Deku. I was thinking about it today and I was like, I'd love if for like the villains finale, they're like, you know what? This will be my hero academia vigilantes. And they like, you know, the sunset happens, the credits roll, post-credits scene, 13 years later or whatever, it's the Shigaraki event where he's like the big like hands monster. All three of the main characters die horrifically as like a casualty. Yeah, you can just see them like off screen somewhere, like fighting one of his tentacles. And just like we, you see Deku like as a speck in the background, well all three of them, Bob steps just getting drawn in quarter. Like the bandit guy's getting his knuckles pulled off. There's like not even close to a fight. They're just all brutalized by the heteromorph uprising. Yeah, or whatever like fucking B, like the guy with the umbrella, like that knocked out FACA and all of them, like they're just the casualty. They get Mr. Compressed. Yeah, literally, yeah. It's like they're just like, nobody remembers them so nobody un-marbleizes them. Yeah, dude, this episode was fucking, I don't know. I wrote, I said, oh yes, the blow myself up quirk. Because like all of the no-moos come out and they're like, and I was like, oh fucking, if it's a quirk, I can fucking nullify this explosion. And then he like immediately uses a technique and it nullifies it. And I was like, who's fucking, you know, whoever they took that quirk from, they did a huge favor. Cause like fucking absolutely put the fucking, I blow up once in one time alone quirk in a goddamn no-mo you can mass produce. That's a quirk you find out you have once. Yeah, like literally it's like, oh, Shiguraki accidentally decaying his family four years old and it's like, uh-oh. Like little Nathan's glowing. Fuck little Nathan's an IED. Yeah. Crazy. Yeah, I guess that's really all I have about it. I mean, what episode was it? Yeah, I gotta start writing down the episode like numbers. What do you think? Captain Celebrity has the infinity. Yeah. He literally like a bomb, he gets wrapped with a bomb but because he has like a barrier around him, which is basically the infinity. He's just, he's just Gojo. He's Gojo with somehow less sexual assaults. He's not really Gojo. Wait, more. Way more. I'd assume more. Yeah. It's not really Gojo. He can't fucking like purple a village. I mean, we haven't seen all the things he can do with this. He can fly for some reason because he have a barrier around him. Because of the bubble. Because the bubble, because the bubble is the most nonsense. For that reason, fucking wash would be able to fly. All right, well. Do you love wash? Just wash in all the cheerleaders for some reason. They were like, hey, the best genius is gonna make them fucking daisy dukes and wash it. Just gonna blast water over these teenagers. What's going on? Look, we know vigilantes is weird and maybe bad. What the fuck are we doing? God damn it. Listen, it's no weirder than like what Fire Force does. Someone will fly in Fire Force and I'm like, whatever. It's all combustion. That's how you fly. But no, it's like in fucking Kyju number eight when that guy grew wings and then started floating somehow. That's how Fire Force treats its flight. We're talking about the Kyju number nine. Yeah, Kyju number nine grew wings and then just started flying without clapping. It's Ghidorah rule. Like Ghidorah can fly, but like Ghidorah doesn't flap its wings nearly enough to maintain its height. Well, that's what I mean about Fire Force. Like I get it with Shinra. Shinra should be able to fly. 100%. He has rocket. Back in the go should be able to fly. In this episode, we met Fairy and he's just flying. Because he's got gravity. Which is also not fire. It's also, it's like something to do with like electric poles or some bullshit. Yeah. The polarity. Yeah. It's like what the fuck that has to do with fire. God knows. Yeah. Sometimes you're bugs. Sometimes, sometimes you're bugs. Sometimes you're rats. Sometimes you're electric waves. Yeah. Why is Maki my rats? Why is- His fucking idea was building a stadium at 7,000 feet. So go to the Sky Egg. We'll build a tower that we've hit 50,000 people at the top of here. It's the coffin in the sky. Idiotic. Idiotic. Fuck it. Send Shigaraki's bitch ass there. And if he tries to crumble the building, oh no, he falls. Yeah. Stupid. Stupid show. If Shigaraki, I know this was literally the plot of the last season. Shigaraki just bent down and touched the ground. Would he just destroy the world? That was kind of his entire idea. That's why they'd keep floating him up in the air. Yeah. I guess so. They were like, we need to, we need to get him floating. What a scale issue. What? I can't imagine. You know when you're like in a fighting game or like just something like, this is hard to explain for someone who doesn't play fighting games. Everyone's just being juggled by somebody. Well, like when you're in a fighting game or League of Legends or something and you see the enemy has a sliver of life and you're like, or a Souls game and the boss has one hit left. And you're like, oh, I got that. All I have to do is land a hit. So you start playing sloppy for the next 15 seconds and you can't get a hit in. And you get like four piece combo. And like it's like the fucking like in Elden Ring, the lion guy throws you in the air and slams you into the ground. Yeah. That's how I feel about Shigaraki where it's like, you couldn't touch the ground just once. You couldn't manage that. All you had to do was either kill Minoma or Izawa or ideally both of them. And then get to the, just simply fall. Just fall. He was looking outsmarted by Minoma, the fucking Mao Mao who it's not Mao Mao, the makey girl. Yeah, Yaroza or whatever. Yeah, Creati. Creati, yeah. Mao Mao. Or Momo. Momo, that's what it was. Cause Momo was just making new panels. Fucking yeah. He just literally was a skill issue. It was actually on him. But yeah, I don't know. It's fucking vigilantes, man. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know why every, do crime. If you're an antagonist during Zepto, do crime. The only person not here is All Might, which I get. I get that scary, but like All Might's fucking, he's got two hours of strengthening him a day. Fucking the best genus, Mirko, the dragon one, Kamui Woods isn't a hero yet. Fucking everybody is at the sky egg trying to send off fucking America's version of Jeffrey Epstein. So basically Jeffrey Epstein, back to America. I'm so shocked. Like obviously there's that detective character in like My Hero Proper. Yes. Thrice is got more detective shit happening in My Hero where there's like someone was murdered in an apartment and they don't know who, you know? Like I would love to see. But not a lot of that. I would love to see like, oh, hey, like we have to think about how this person can be murdered with individual quirks. They're like, oh, there's scorch marks. Like scorch marks here or something. Or like, oh, there's like this place. It's still cold to the touch. Ice was used. Something like that. Or like, all the lights are blown out. Like somebody was controlling electricity. Like that would be kind of sick. Yeah, get like a witcher on a case. You know, that'd be sweet. Like a fucking cork based detective. Cause like if you get a lot of like genius types, like you get like the principle of UA, he's like a genius. And like those kind of detectives would be very, very interesting to see. But yeah, I don't know. Vigilantes was fine. It was fine. Fucking whatever. After that, second worst episode after that. Send us to be here. Okay. Or is it Hell's Paradise? Hmm. Hell's Paradise. Hell's Paradise. Gotcha. Because. This is episode 13 of, no it isn't. No, it shouldn't be. This is episode nine of season two. So episode 21 total. Not a bad episode. This is just, oh, it's just a classic. This is kind of the problem with Hell's Paradise. Where it's like, oh, it's monster of the week. Cause everything has like every single one of the Lord Tencent has a Kishi guy transformation. So once they get beat to a certain point, you're like, all right, now turn into the gigantic flower monster. And like you kind of understand that everyone's gonna win. Like you understand like, oh, all the good guys are gonna win. They're gonna cut the tandem. It's gonna be a whole kind of thing. And like not until really the end of the episode, for me, does this episode get interesting because we cut to. The blind guy. We cut to She-On. Like on cut like 230 on fucking one of the Lord Tencent. He's like, I don't have the hindering trait to kill this guy. I'm just gonna wear them out. And look, you see all of the bodies like decayed everywhere. That was hardcore. The short assignment whose name I refuse to remember, Kintetsu Sai, Toma and Asuchobe. Like that is an okay fight. Like it's like, for me, it's almost a worse iteration of like Gyotaro and Daki. Kind of where it's like the, the like the sister brother kind of love sibling duo thing. Cause like Gyotaro and Daki have the same situation where they both need to be captated at the same time. Right? And so Jufa or Gufa and Taufa, both need to have their tandem cut simultaneously. And so it's the exact same idea. It's just like with less emotional. Like I like, I liked last episode that gave us their backstory, but it just feels less emotionally compelling than Demon Slayer. Yeah, I feel like the last episode got me attached to them. And then this episode, we don't really get a lot of their personality at all. Like they do feel like they just turned into like, a nameless personality list, like Dark Souls boss. And so it was, and they don't even look like they did before. Yeah, because they go from the volum, she was full body to a tentacle monster. To the epitome of sensuality by the short isomage. Yeah, the short isomage was like, fucking no, go back to the other form. God, God damn it, it was hard. But yeah, it's easy to like detach the sorrow you felt for them in the last episode. Cause they just don't look like it. Yeah, they don't look the same. And they don't act the same. And there's no real reason to remember that they're like. And then one of them like turns into a peach. Like the reason that I feel like- They do turn into a peach. Like the reason I feel like Gildor and Daki's death is so incredibly like poignant and powerful is because you see like, like Daki's crying and she's been decapitated and Gildor was like, they're like fading away and Tondra has this moment where he's like, don't curse your sister at the moment of her death kind of situation. And like the two of them died like forgiving and loving each other. These two was just like, I'm sorry, couldn't protect you. Like classic, like try to crawl towards situation. Just not, it didn't deliver. Yeah, I mean, I didn't dislike the episode, but I agree that the previous one was a lot stronger and it really helped me like feel connected to the characters in a way that this episode was just like a pretty cool fight. Yeah. And then we get the, we get like how he's able. I don't know, I also like the reason being like, oh here I'm able to like hinder his towel because I stuffed all these bottles in my body. And he's just like spiking them out. I'm like, holy water. First off, awesome. Put those in your pocket. Like I'd like to put like, they didn't even be fused into your fucking lower intestine. I know, I wonder if he was like, I wonder if I can do this now. And then did it and he was like, all right. Yeah, I was like, I'm fucking rip those out later. How do you know he could do that? Exactly. I wrote, I think one of my only notes was, brother's got no gag reflex. Oh, and I wrote, I like that this one is androgynous. Gweefaw. Yeah. Yeah. So holy fucking dry stitching. Gweefaw was like fucking, yeah, you can leave. Yeah. But like here's exactly everything Rian's doing. What is dry stitching? Like it's like when you're like snitching without acts, like without purposely doing it. I like, like if I fucking like, let's say I saw like one of my friends like making out with a girl at a party and I was talking to his girlfriend and I would be like, oh yeah, like Blank was having a great time last night. She'd be like, what the fuck are you talking about? And he'd be like, oh, so like Gweefaw was like, oh, hey. Like Rian, like, yeah, I could let you guys go, but Rian's planning on taking over the world with like butterflies and this and this and that. Oh, you're gonna tell the whole plan of these people actively trying to do and definitely try to save the world? Their plan's pretty cool. It like reestablishes the futility and like cosmic horror of the island where it's like, this, what's been so cool about Host Paradise is from day one, it feels like this island is so insurmountable. Like they're gonna unleash thousands of butterflies that will just like, obficerate all of humanity. And it's like, yeah, how the fuck are we gonna put a stop to that without just burning the coffin before they open it? Literally, you just have to fucking, you have to get that ship. You can make, that ship cannot make it to the mainland. And that's the most important thing, but Rian, who's the head of Old Lord Tenzin is already down there loading up the ship with all the dosi. Outside of that, I just said she un-pulled the shortest straw because NuroGuy does nothing. And this blind motherfucker is just fighting for his life against somebody who could regenerate a thousand goddamn times. Yeah, that part is really sick. Awesome. You see like the fucking like withered and decayed. I don't even, I might be like, move far or something like that. Like withered and decayed, you're like poking out over the pile of its own dead bodies. I love it being like, what's wrong with you? Please stop fucking hitting me, God damn it. So good. But yeah, so I mean, it's a fine episode from Hell's Paradise. It's definitely better than, it's better than... Vigilante. Vigilantes, but it's not. The best installment we've gotten from Hell's Paradise by any metric. Yeah, it's like, you know, serviceable in terms of this season, like a good solid seven or eight. Yes. Closer to seven. Dude, I fucking love Sentence to Be a Hero. Oh yeah. I'm gonna stand for this shit every week. I do, I... You truly stand on business when it comes to this show and this show alone. This is my To Be Hero X. Okay, so in the same way that every single week, I was like, To Be Hero X just delivered the best episode we ever seen of anime. Gotcha, okay. Like when I came back from like Queen and fucking and whatever her other one name was, and I was like, this is the best fight I've ever seen. You're like, you need to calm the fuck down. I just like, I can't believe every... This is the one I look forward to most next to JJK. That's crazy, because it is the show I commit to watching last every single week. And the only reason it's that way is because Vigilantes comes out on Mondays. Like I have to watch Vigilantes last if I had the chance to, and they were all available. Vigilantes would be last. Right, insane. I just, it's so consistent. I'm never bored. The world building's always sick. This is episode... Sentence to Be a Hero 9. Yes. Of everything actually, I assume. Yeah, it's season one, yep. But yes, this is episode nine. It's not like the best episode. This is an interesting episode that reminds me of the frog episode of Vigilantes. This is the most classic Sentence to Be a Hero episode ever, dude. This is a classic. It's a mess around. There is a senseless battle that starts for no real reason. Every single one of the heroes shows up. They all do a funny quip. And at the end of the episode, they're like, you know what we gotta do? We gotta get the other hero. I'm gonna buy! And then it's like, fucking, what do you mean this cast is still growing? We gotta break our other hero out of prison. It's like, how many? Fuck, this cast is gonna be 40 people by the time we get to season six. Brother, it never misses. The formula never gets old for me. When they were like, we gotta get another hero. Man, he's so hard to work with. I'm like, keep him coming. Is there ever gonna be a hero where one person's like, we gotta get him? Hell, why haven't we got him yet? Dude, I love that guy. Yeah, that dude's sick. Remember Vegas? We have the pickpocket, the fucking delusional king, the guy who's not from this world, the dragon fucker, the fucking, the guy who does not fight, and then the possible lolly con in Zylophone Bards. I think we need a mage and... Oh yeah, I forgot, the mass murdering sniper. None of them are cool as people. Well, yeah, they're all sentenced to be a hero. Then we get their backstory and it's all fucking sentenced to be misunderstood. All their backstories are like, not that bad of crimes. Literally, they're like, you protected the crown prince and it's like, no, I'm sorry. Zyloh, I get it. They're like, you killed, they're like, you found a nuke and you set it off. Like, you can't be doing this shit. Yeah, one of them was like a town gossip. Forget what the sniper did. Oh, mass murder. Like, he was like, sometimes my brain tells me to kill people. He's the only one where you're like, ah, you. I like him. Oh yeah, of course. He's great. Fucking, yeah, I'm excited for the new hero. Yeah, the first half of this episode reminds me of the Frog episode from Vigilantes, where I'm like, what's the frog episode? With the big ass frog, that's literally all for one. Oh, gotcha, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. From my Zylophone's backstory, yeah. Where I'm like, this is actually like an insulting amount of good animation for truly not an episode that needs it. Yes. Like, unreal animation. When the troll comes out and they're fighting the big troll with a glowing back and shit. Just the whole first half of the episode, the whole fight was like unbelievably well animated. The art style was like weird this episode. You notice like, people were looking like weirdly realistic in it. No, I didn't notice that at all. The dude who gets like murdered at the end. You talking about the fucking like one of the ruffians that shows up, he's like, oh, this is Oscar. The dude. And then Norgow like whips him into shape. The like Confederate soldier looking dude on. Are you dying by feels though? You're talking about the guys who Norgow eventually whips into shape. Perhaps. My first note was, oh no, it's kids. Kevia one is real zero. That was my first note. Cause in the beginning Kevia is like, I'm not gonna kill these kids with knives. Right, this guy. Oh, the fucking head of the adventure is killed. Yeah. What about him? He looks too realistic. Yeah, he looks like a real ass fucking man. There was a cool reveal in this episode. We're at the end, his sister. I mean, he does be looking kind of real. It kind of looks like low key, the art style in that looks like fate strange fake. Oh really? Yeah, it looks exactly like fate strange fake, which is odd Danny. So fucking good. Look at how many more lines are in his face. Versus Zylo, that's very fair. It looks like, that looks like the fucking, what a toxic Yowie. That's still you just showed me. Looked like a toxic Yowie style. Oh yeah, how he's grabbing his hair. Yeah, he's grabbing his hair, yeah. Fucking, what were you saying? I was saying some, oh, fate strange fake. Oh no, the reveal at the end. It's revealed that the guy's little sister has been, like I actually, so we both thought that Boojum was the curse blight. Cause we were like, oh, they're like, oh, it could take human appearance. Then Boojum shows up and he's got a bunch of ridiculous powers. And then it gets revealed that the curse blight is actually the little girl who's been like keeping an eye on the adventure the entire time. Or the adventure guild leader guy. And man, it is, that was a good reveal. And the fucking blows out the back of her brother. And you hear him like just ripping her apart. You see all the pile of the dead kids. Crazy, crazy, gory and hardcore episode. Really hardcore. What'd you think of the fucking bazooka night? Oh dude, fucking tank. You mean tank? Yeah, listen, maybe my favorite part about this entire show is that like, they're like, oh yeah, it's fantasy themed, but also fucking whatever. But they're snipers. But they're snipers. Oh, there's a Lewis gun for some reason that, did you catch the fact that like Zylo jumps out of the square, right? And he jumps out of the square. And there's a guy like three houses back on a Lewis gun. And then like it gets blown up. And I'm like, why was the Lewis gun outside of the maybe catch Zylo jumping? Why was the Lewis gun station there? Awful placement. Yeah, but then fucking tanks blowing away things with his recoilless rifle. That was awesome. My favorite part of the entire thing was, Norgals like, gentlemen, I'm the king of this kingdom. And you'll work for me. And they all go like, fuck you, Norgal. Basically he goes, diplomacy has failed. Time for some good old fashioned vigilante violence. And I was like, make this motherfucker the MC immediately. He's so good. Anytime Norgal shows up. It's just better. It's just a better product. It's just great. It just everything hits for me. I love tank. I like that. He looks just like the Goblin Slayer Goblin Slayer. Oh yeah. I mean, unless you accept, you have to give him a fucking AT rifle. Yeah, right. Exactly. I'm so happy we're introducing like, obviously, what was his name? Bujin. Bujum. Bujum. Obviously he was like our first like human antagonist we met. Yeah. But it feels like this next episode, they're just straight up gonna fight tank. Yes. And that's hype. Like we're finally gonna get like a human on human fight. Yeah, I guess we really, we've gotten like the co-existors kind of thing. Yeah. But they're like grunts, you know, like we're getting like a name antagonist. Yeah, exactly. So that's awesome. And I'm really looking forward to it. I just, yeah, like this is my favorite new thing. This was a very fun episode. This was a very fun episode. This is a good episode. Like I said, it's just classic. Send us to be a hero, nonsense, where it's just unending action the entire time. Send us to be a hero is solo leveling without the pomp and circumstances of needing to enter a portal. I think it's just better. Like the world buildings, like legitimately interesting. I thought. The first episode, I was the first one to be like, the second this show doesn't have a fight in it, I'm gonna be bored as hell. I love all the characters. I love the world. I love the plot. I love the zylo falling in love, like the romantic zylo and they're both kind of fun. Yeah. Like I like his fiance, I like Kivia. I even like Tairita. I like Dota now. I didn't like Dota at first. Dude, him pulling up on the guy. I mean, like I didn't want to do this if you move, you die. I was like, this is what the fucker gets it. He was sick. So all the heroes, like I would say, right the heroes we know right now. In terms of what I like. In terms of what you like. Favorite heroes top to bottom. Norgal, 100%. Norgal, one easy. Sniper, two. I would say Tatsuya, two. Who's Tatsuya? Crazy guy with the X. That's crazy. Love him. Love him. I love a feral guy who everyone's like, we don't fucking, I listen, he's eight fights for us for the moment. I like him. I like him in terms of like what he represents. Yes. I'll do number three is probably Zylo. I'm hotter on Zylo than you are. Yeah, he's low on my list. Sniper, three for me. Okay. Four is Dota. Yes. Four is Dota for me as well. Five is the do is. Venetim. Well, is that the one with the glasses? That's the one who's like always like, yeah, he's like, what do you want? Yeah, that's him. He's just sick. Venetim is good. I need more screen time with him. Yes. It was between him and Jace. Jace is last place for me. Really? I just know nothing about him. And then every time he meets an animal, he's like, I haven't seen you in a while, baby. He ran up on a horse. He ran up on horses. I was like, you know this motherfucker was fucking horses before he upgraded to dragons. Yeah, exactly. He was like, look at the horses. Fuck, I shouldn't. God damn, look at the tail on that. Look at the tail on that fine bread, thorough bread. Damn, if you had wings. You could breathe fire. No, I'm changed, man. I'm a changed man. Yeah, no, because I mean, what is a horse, if not a furry dragon at the end of the day? Yeah. You know? Not a damned thing. Not a lot of people do a horse for Sonas. You ever seen a horse spursuit? I don't. You usually want paws. You don't want hooves. Oh, is that a different, is it different thing if you have paws? Are you in a potty? You're not a furry anymore? You're a- No, you are. It's just in terms of like having to wear it. You know what's crazy to me? People don't like giving horses hands. I guess that makes sense. That makes a lot of sense. But like, why the splits between the furries and the scalies? That's my question. Probably. It's like, it's like, why break up? You know, why break up the party? Why drop the party line? I don't know if it is- Why do I have a two-party system? I don't know if it is. I think it's just like a dip, cause there's no fur on them. Whoa, I know, but like- It's just a classification. I don't think there's like a feud. Listen up. Huh? That means you. Yes, you. We know you're pointing at yourself. When it comes to potty power games, we've got a place made for all sorts. From the experts to the drama queens. It's me, the JC. The finance bros. Look at those stokes lads. We'll stick with slots. It's what we're good at. And not forgetting you. Yes, you, the one listening. Because at potty power games, we've got all sorts of games for all sorts of trickles. Eligibility rules in terms of conditions apply. Please come by responsibly. ATEMPlus, CamilaWeir.org. I don't know. I don't- I could see there being a few. I could see a fur- I could see a scaly walk-in for it. Oh, you need to be soft. You need to be soft and fur- okay. I like how you're inventing conflict. I- You're like, tell me this. Why is there such a divide? Two-fury types? Two wars? Two wars? And I'm like, I don't think there is. And you're like, but there could be. There could be two wars. This is literally Fox News. I'm fucking painting the dialogue here. It's all of our furry and or scaly listeners. Is it chill? Is it chill? Are you guys- It's like, what up dog? Who's the horse from Beastars? The Beastars? The Beastars? I forget his name, but he has hands and it's really uncomfortable. What? He has hands. Ew. Wait, does Bojack Horseman? Yeah, he has hands too. You know who also has hands? The fucking deer from Adventure Time. It takes off its gloves and it's got fingers, remember? Yeah, and it's awful. Yeah, so that is bad. The fucking Beastar, the Beastar has hands. Bro's getting cold out by name. It's so funny. The deer does too. I'll may own up a deer. Oh yeah, fucking Louie. Oh my God, it does have hands. Yeah, Louie and Beastars also has hands. Oh, Louie also has hands. But his feet are hooves. That's what- Why? That's the compromise. I don't want to see him like he's like trying to hold the script. No, I think he has feet. I think he has real feet because Lego, she eats his leg. I'm looking up Louie's feet. And it's a foot. I'm looking up Louie, Louie feet, Beastars. This is going to be my most cursed. It do be chill. Oh wow, yeah, I actually, I forgot how, I forgot how much of a story point Louie's foot feed are. He's got to get fucking branded on his feet. There are so many images that are not fan made of Louie showing his goddamn feet off. It's a, it's a crucial plot point. It's a very crucial plot point of Louie's feet. That's funny. Fucking- Very good stuff. Very good. Yeah, I think my bottom two are Jace and then Tetsuya or whatever his name is. Crazy. Katsuya, hi there. We need a female hero. We got the general, obviously. And now we have his female VA. But I want like a woman who was sentenced to be a hero. For something that wasn't like a Konichi thing. What's it called? What, a Konichi? A Konichi. Yeah, I don't want it to be like, I was seducing too many men. Too many, I stabbed too many men in their pee pee holes. Yeah, I seduced too much of an aristocrat. Danny, little do you know, men commit most of the violent crime. So there's probably not that many women- They're not all sentenced for violent crimes. That one dude was sentenced for propaganda. That accidentally was- That was accidentally correct, yes. Which you know, actually, that is a heavy, heavy fine. Look, you're just like, oh wait. Hey, they'll be like finding the head of QAnon and be like, actually you were kind of correct about the Epstein thing. And then sending things in to be all the fucking front line- To be a mortal in my right. Yeah, and a mortal fucking hero forever. Oh, crazy. All right, after sentenced to be a hero, we have what? It kind of sucks that this doesn't take place in modern day because like, I mean, I get that like modern day or like medieval war often reflects like modern day war in terms of like fiction. What do you mean? Like, you know, the Lord of the Rings is about World War I. And like- Yeah. The Game of Thrones is about like world politics and how we're all ignoring global warming for like resources and greed and stuff. The fucking, the White Walkers are global warming. Just like in inevitable cold sweeping across the earth that everyone's ignoring because they want the throne. Cut. And then the ice, the ice wall is keeping them out. But then the ice wall- That's like the ozone. But the ice walls melted by the dragons and the dragons are CO2. Got it. I'm there. I'm there with you, George, RR. But like, RR- Is the RR stand for? RR. RR. RR, you Martin. RR, you Martin. Listen, I really like the Dornish pirates. That's why I never really write about Dorn. Fuckin'. But I get that like- No pirates. No, there is pirates. There's pirates. A bunch of pirates. Like all of the- There's the Iron Island. There's the Dorn- Yeah, never mind. I like that. Tons of pirates. Fuckin'. But the- So I get that like oftentimes medieval fantasy writing reflects the politics of like either a recent or current war. Yes. However, sentenced to be a hero, taking place in like the American Iraq war. Mm-hmm. What great potential for like commentary? So you want the- You want like the Persian Gulf War. You know what the Persian Gulf War, so like it's sentenced to be hero, but you're like trying to fight for George W. Bush. Basically. Yeah. You're trying to defend oil subsidiaries for George W. Bush. It'd have to be more cynical. Like the reason it has potential- Iraq going five, weapons of mass destruction, Zalo. Yeah, still Zalo. Dick Cheney just fucking- Yeah, sure, he'll believe that, Lyle. It's all the characters of the same. Jace is still a dragon rider. We kind of got that. It was just the Devil May Cry anime. Yes, unfortunately. We got to it. We had fucking George W. Bush and fucking Dick Cheney trying to tell demons where to be. But there's great like potential in the idea of like making this about like American patriotism, where it's like soldiers are just recycled over and over. And it'd be cool if they do a Hell Divers type beat where it's like each time you die instead of going insane, well, you are going insane, but you become like more patriotic. You know, like you start as like an anti-Vietnam war, like 60s or like 70s style hippie. And then the more you die- It's like MK Ultra. I don't know. Okay, gotcha. But the more you die, the more you fucking like get more into the war. Yeah. I love that. I also like the banana fish is about Iraq. Or it takes place during the Iraq war and a dude is like in Iraq or Afghanistan. Everything I learn about banana fish, I'm just like- It's awesome. I'm just like, what? What, why? How did this happen? It takes place in Boston, Massachusetts. It's a tragic BL in Boston that takes place during the Persian Gulf War? Yeah. What? And it opens in the Persian Gulf War and like on the American side, and then the whole thing takes place in Boston, Massachusetts. And I fucking love that. Like for some reason that adds such a layer to me where I'm like, oh, this is an anime about 2008 in America. And that is like crucial to the plot. It's not just like, you know, it feels like a my hero takes place in Japan because it's an anime. Like if it was an American idea, it'd take place in America. I love the idea that a Japanese mangaka was like my story takes place in America and it needs to. Yeah, they went to Boston and they're like, we got stuff, we got stuff. This is my story. They went on like the fucking the walk, the Liberty walk. And they're like, there needs to be an anime about this fucking. We gotta figure out a story for this goddamn Fenway. This Fenway experience over here. That's just cool. Just seeing an anime that doesn't take place either in like a fake place or Japan is cool to me. Trying to think of place like anime. Jojo's is all about that. They go to Italy. They go to Italy. They have to walk from like Egypt to Japan. There's a, yeah, there's actually, yeah, you're right. That's a very globetrotting anime. Fuck, now I need to watch Banana Fish. Yeah, it's like 24 episodes and it's awesome. Well, something that people from not New England won't know is that when you're from New England, you have to consume literally everything that takes place in the city of Boston. That's why we love Bed Affleck because he makes everything in Boston. Yeah. He's like a fucking Manchester by the Sea. Fucking, that's, wait, that's in England. That's the wrong, how? No, Manchester by the Sea, that's in like, I think it's Massachusetts, right? Yeah, it's Massachusetts. That's correct. Fucking the town. Yeah, that's Casey. The boxing one with Mark Wahlberg. The Depahti. The Depahti. Dude, great movies, all Boston bound, baby. All right, what's the next worst? Oh, Fire Force. What? No? Okay, nevermind, I'm sorry, you're right. I forgot what episode was, I forgot what episode was, I forgot what episode, I forgot. This is the highest rated anime episode ever. Ever. Ever. Ever. Point Dexter. Wait, is that actually a real, that's true. That's a real fact. What do you mean? And JJK fans are like review bombing. Okay, first off, JJK fans need to get off the fucking internet. When it comes to reviews, JJK fans need to chill the fuck out. JJK fans, it's the angriest fandom for the most popular show. Like I don't understand what JJK fans, oh my God, one more time please. Yeah, I got you, please. And take number two for Danny Minnesing, the JJK fans line, go. JJK fans have- Wait, makeup, makeup, makeup, God damn it. What, I have to look at this this entire time? He's got a fucking sponge on his face. Beat my face? Okay, where's the PA? Where's the PA? Thank you. I said 72 degrees on this coffee. Everybody fucking- You made me mash my M&M. Do you want to be paid next year? You want to be paid next year? You want to keep working until you get paid eventually? Then 72 degrees! Mommy made me mash my M&M. Take three, fuck! Go. You're the director and- The editor of the- The editor of the- Yes, exactly. Oh, the JJK fandom is so angry considering they already have everything they could ever want and more. Yes. They have the most popular anime next to Demon Slayer. Oh yeah. They have the highest reviewed anime running next to Freerun. Every season of the show that's been dropped, one anime of the year it came out. Every season one anime of the year, every season gets better than the previous. It has the best animation team of any show ever. One of the highest selling mongers of all time. And yet every week they're pissed about something. And this week it's Fire Force. Cause Fire Force got like a 9.9 either on my anime list or IMDb or something. What? And for whatever reason lately, this also happened with like the Breaking Bad fandom and the Game of Thrones fandom. When Night of the Seven Kingdoms got a huge like 10 out of 10 episode. So good. Such a good show. Oh, so good. I don't know why people like will attack other shows to keep theirs as the quote best one. Yeah. Also I can't imagine being still so invested in like being like, no guys you don't understand. Breaking Bad was like transcendent. Like I love that so much and you make sure it holds the top spot. I haven't thought about Breaking Bad in years. Yeah. In year. Good show. Great show even. Don't think about it. It's also just funny to me because I was thinking about this today or not today. The other day when I'm watching JJK and how you've talked about how Obito versus Kakashi has the best like hand to hand choreos in anime in your opinion. And like I was, I won't fully spoil my thought coming up later. Okay. But I was like, no, I think this is better. Like I think, I don't think that's true anymore. And then at first I was like, why won't say that? The author versus dragon was better. We'll see. Okay. You know, I'll keep, I'll leave breadcrumbs. But I was like, Oh, he's candy. I was like, you know, maybe I won't say that. I don't want to rage bait. I want to be inflammatory. But then I was like, wouldn't it make sense that like 10 years later, there's a better thing? Wouldn't we want a better thing? It shouldn't be a hot take or it shouldn't be like an anger inducing take. To be like, oh, this thing from 2026 is better than this thing from 2008. You guys aren't going to believe this anime and animation is getting better. Oh, there's more money going into it. Oh, what? Things get influenced by other things and then improve upon it. Yes. Do you want to talk about Fire Force then? Oh, because honestly Freerun should go here. Let's go about, let's do Freerun then first. Okay. Let's do Freerun because you're right. It is a very good episode from Fire Force, which is unfortunate because of what the last episode of Fire Force was here. And then, yeah, okay. So we're going to do, let's do, wait, Freerun first. Yep. I said, oh God, Gojo and Tsukina Hada Baby, which I'm sure has been written before because the bad guy is a forearmed snake, just baddie, just baddie with shirtless wearing a fucking like lace, like a lace eye cover, long silky white hair, real sexy like. This is episode seven of season two of Freerun. Yes. Yeah, all the demons look great. They all look great. Their designs are always great. They have such good tasteful horn placement. 100%. I love that. It's like, it's like whenever you're building a tiefling, like how do you want your horns? Cause it's not all shop one horns here. No, I agree so hard. Anytime I can like create a character that has horns, I need variety. Like I don't like horns that stick up. I need them to like curl back. I always need like, yeah, I need like curl or like one broken. I need like one broken horn always. Yeah, I agree. Yeah. Stark stays back. Yes. With Colonel Mustang. Yes. And Freerun Fern. I love the, I love him being Colonel Mustang. It's very good. I don't know anyone's names. Genow. Genow and Method. Moblets. Of course, my favorite. Moblets. Method. Yes. Awesome name. The Freerun Method and Fern go and fight two lesser demons. Yes. At one point. Oh, Gnau says something so fucking cool. What? What was it? Oh, he's like, I don't need a frontliner. I'm plenty accustomed to close quarter combats. Is that what you're talking about? That's pretty cool. He gives some like really like tragic. Well, so he's given the backstory on like, basically the demon and like why the demon is a problem right now. Yeah, who's it killing? He's talking about how Stark is a good person. He reminds him of his old partner who died protecting a kid. And he's like, that's why the demon got away. He's like, the demon got away because my partner was a good person. And if my partner wasn't a good person and hadn't tried to save that kid, we could have killed the demon. Which leads to this interesting talking point where it's like, oh, he saved that kid. But because he saved that kid, an entire village of people died. Yeah, he, yeah, at one point he's literally like, couldn't be me. Like, would never be me. I would have hunted that demon instantly. Like fuck that kid. That kid can die. I gotta fucking get old snake legs over here. Yeah, yeah. I mean, this was a pretty good episode, but like the more we talk about it, the more I think of last week's, and last week's freerun episode was like, he's like slowly becoming maybe one of my favorites of the season. I don't. It was just so good. Disagree necessarily, but this episode was also very good. I thought it was really sweet that Stark understands that canal can't run. Like the reason that canal stays behind, he's like, oh, like he's talking to freerun and Fern as they're leaving. And he's like, oh, well you guys can just, like if you see demons and you get overwhelmed, run away. And then he's like, oh, then canal's cool. I can run away and he's like, but you won't. Yeah. And he's like, cause you're protecting these dead bodies. You won't run away. So I need to be here kind of thing. I thought that was fucking, like a really insightful, really cool, like, oh, we're showing like growth in Stark because Stark's whole thing in his early character arcs was the fact that he ran away from the dragon. Like the only reason that the village that he was with celebrated him is cause they believed he scared off the dragon when in actuality, the dragon just turned around. And like he was just hoping the dragon wasn't gonna come back. And then he finally mustered the courage to go fight the dragon. Now he's actively choosing to be with somebody who will, like he knows can't run away. Yeah. Which I thought was sweet. Yeah. I agree. I wrote, Stark asking what a demon general is is as dumb as Jinwoo not understanding how email works. 100%. What's a demon? I don't know. Fucking you were in the, your entire family was in the army. Like Stark's backstory is like, he'll never be army material. And it's like, what do you think your fucking talented brother and father position were in the army? A Zoom, just assume. Yeah. He's like, what? Oh, is that different from a demon specific? God damn it Stark. We're gonna pick up the axe. Just a bigger, better demon. 100%. I also wrote that, somebody needs to look at methods hard drive. I wrote, what the fuck is up with this woman? Yeah. This is a pedophile. This is a pedophile. She's like, I have to, I have to, she's like, free rein can I hug you for a little bit? And it's like back 20 feet back up. Thank God for like, these are my favorite parts. Well, free rein is an adult woman. I know, but like she specifically like, she likes free rein and she likes, fuck what's the other one? Cereae, because they're like little, she's like, I love little girls kind of thing. And she's like, oh, can I pat you on the head? And she's like, Cereae doesn't let me hug her. And I was like, Fer, fucking, I was like, spell the armistice bitch, get her out of here. Yeah, ask, ask a question. Ask why she's doing this. I do love that she's able, and this is like classic free rein nonsense where she's like, oh, this is a spell book that like, teaches you how to not get egg shells in your food if you crack them. And I was like, just more good old free rein nonsense. When it comes to reoccurring bits in anime, it's like, oh, Arthur's delusional. Free rein gets stuck in traps and also like will do anything for a grimoire. I don't know, vigilantes, yeah, fucking, I don't know. What's a reoccurring bit from Fire Force? One that you like? I was just like, I was just trying to think of like reoccurring bits from anime and like, oh, like that's like my favorite. Like Mal-Mal loves poison, apothecary diaries. Like free rein, like loving basic ass grimoires every single time, like. What about? She makes me giggle. Elric's antenna going boyoyoying. Or it's love of birds. Birds? Yeah, dude, birds love, like Ed. That was hanging out with Ed. Ed, no. Oh, you're talking about alphons. Yeah, he's fucking. I'm talking about Ed. You're talking about Ed. You're talking about alphons. I'm talking about alphons. Yes, alphons and birds get along well. Ed, yeah, yeah, he gets fucking, what's the guy from the little, the rascals or rugrats or? Oh, alfalfa. Alfalfa, his little fucking alfalfa hair boner, exactly. That's how he adds to his height. But yeah, I mean, it's a fun episode. We get obviously the start of a big fight between Stark, Gnau and, what is this, divine something. Four arms. Four arms, divine something here here. And I said, this is a real Goku and Gohan moment here because we see free rein. We see free rein, like basically like see the two demons. She's like, Fern, you got this. And I was like, no the fuck I did. And she's like, no, you got it. Yeah, Fern's like help though. Yeah, but she's like, fuck it. I'm gonna give him a sense of being here real quick. And like, you see free rein, like point at one of them and like Fern's just barely able to block her magic. It's just so funny to me that for instance, like I could fucking piece these two up in a second. These are triding dummies. Yeah, and she's like, method it's engaged one, our turn. And it's like, help one of them. Yeah, she's like, fuck it. I don't know if one of them dies, I'll step in obviously. It's like, she's literally just waiting for the fight to get interesting. And then like, that's things like she should be back fighting fucking four arms here. I'm excited to see method fight. Not that I come to free rein for fights, but that's the thing about free rein. Good ass fights and free rein. There's good fights. Well, that's what's weird about free rein is it's like when a fight comes up, I'm like, am I supposed to be like, should I be excited about this? Or should I be like, oh, let's get to the cozy shit? I love the fights and free rein. Cause the cozy shit like builds out the character. So you like feel like on edge when you're watching, like when you're watching these characters like in high level fights, like holy shit, this is sick. Yeah, I think I'll be chasing the high of the episode six for the rest of this series. That's probably fair. Because that was so melancholy and like, tower, it was so heavy. And I really want free rein to get like that more rather than like, oh, my life's work is down the drain, but who, it was a fun ride. Yeah, it really felt like, oh, this is like medieval fantasy accurate where it's like, oh, something devastated happening. And we have no recourse. Yeah, like, the dude carrying that dead guy and then feeling him die on his back and still talking to him. Like that will, that might be where free rein has peaked for me forever. Cause with the crazy is like people like, people will be like, oh, we're like blowing out of the portion, but like, you don't realize like that is, it's such understated showing and not telling storytelling. Right? You're like, oh, like he's carrying this guy and he asks them a question that obviously Ganao could answer with the truth and you see him lie. And it's like, oh, cause we're building this like dichotomy inside of Ganao where he's like, Don't fucking Dr. Strange at me. Well, I'm fucking, I'm sling ring in your bitch ass. And like, you see him being like, oh, he's got this cold exterior, but he's doing this nice thing. And then like, he keeps talking to him. And that, the fact that he keeps talking to him sticks with me the most. Cause it's like, who was that for? Like that's my thing about that exchange, right? Like he feels him the second he dies. And then he still keeps talking. And I'm like, is that for him? Is that for the person who died on his back? And I was like, is he trying to comfort himself? And I was like, that moment, like when a TV show or a movie hits you with something where you're like, why? Like you're trying to get into the character's head. You're like, that is such compelling storytelling and it's done in such like a, like a non-Netflixian way. Like Netflix recently came out and they're like, we found that we need to remind people to plot three to five times cause they're like watching TV while on their phone. It's such an understated storytelling element where you're like, oh, I learned something about this person, but I'm not quite sure what I learned. And that like, it's just beautiful, beautiful storytelling. I loved it. I also said, feel free to help whenever canal. So please stop or farming because like Stark is like fighting for his life. And canal is like, I'm quite skilled at close quarter combat. And they just flying around all of the tentacles. Meanwhile, like Stark's like, it's so heavy now. Like fighting for his life. Yeah. Great, great episode. All right, now we can talk about Fire Force. Oh, can we? Yes. Wow. So you're gonna look into the camera right now and say that this episode of JJK is better than this episode of Fire Force. Yes, I'll say that. Wow. I'll say it all. How many are first up? How many extended hammers did this episode of Fire Force have? Extendo hammers? Extendo hammers, mallets, if you shall. One. One, I'd say. One, yeah. Oh, you think Arthur's Excalibur is a candy? I don't even think that. Didn't make much of a thud to me. Oh, it's a sort of justice. Ooh. Kitty. A great story like Monsters Inc. stays with you forever. And Disney Class is where you'll find your next great story from the return of the award-winning hit series, Rivals. Welcome to the naughtiest show on television. To the unmissable crime drama, High Potential. Gotta dead body, gotta go. A lifetime of great stories awaits. This spring on Disney Plus, 18 Plus, subscription required. T's and C's apply. God damn it. Brother, you don't win this. God damn it, that's checkmate. Fuck. Oh, all right, you're fine. Then we'll talk about Jeddy Kay. No, let's talk about Fire Force. Fine, however, I will tell you. I don't know if you've seen the internet lately. This is like, one, since last week, people have been riding Fire Force, which even though it's like- What else is it we're talking about? Blur. Blur, blur, blur, blur. Blur, blur, blur, blur. Fire Force today, I was literally in the shower today. What, doing tiny chef John Cena? Well, I wish. That's you blank, see me. That's cause I'm in the brown. Blimey is now. Episode 21 of season three. Of what? Fire Force and Jeddy Kay, what? Well, we're just talking about Fire Force. I know, but we're comparing the two. There's a discourse, baby. What's better? It's probably my episode of tiny chef, suits and blies and episode 56. I don't know if we ever told our audience about our beef with tiny chef. That tiny chef almost killed himself because he was cancer and I can't look at him. The fucking creator of tiny chef had a crochet, a shotgun the size of his chef. I can pull it with his toes. All right, this episode 56 of JJK and in terms of season three, that's one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, episode nine of JJK, season three. Cool. But I, oh, so yeah, I don't know if you've seen the internet, but last week, people have been riding Fire Force. In a bad way. In a positive way. Oh. Riding gets D if you will. Since last week? Since last week. Last week, people are like, since the Maki might. People are like, Maki. Maki. No, you're all. Toma-ki. Toma-ki. Yes. Rats. Too much fucking. A lot of Maki's, yeah. Since the Toma-ki episode, seeing a lot of people like, you know, one, it was a good fight. It was well animated, blah, blah, blah. But every season of Fire Force that comes around, there's always people being like, you know, oh, Toma-ki's lucky letter lore is actually, it serves the plot and it's not fan service because of this and that. We've made our opinions on it clear. Yes. It's very obviously fan service. Yes. Anything can serve, like you could change the plot to make it not have a minor be naked the whole time. Very, there's plenty of characters who are of age that you can do it with. But so people were like defending the hell out of Fire Force during them. They're like, you're doing yourself a big disservice. If you say that like the fan service turns you away from Fire Force because they just close it off in a big way. That's up for debate. I love the idea of just being like, yeah, you fucking limbs who drop Fire Force because of the 17 year old stripping naked. Well, guess what? It's because she's the symbol of sex. Get owned. It's because this week on Turning Point USA, baby. It's because all of a sudden there's a theme to it. Yeah, baby. Um, but uh, 20 soy boy libtards in one Tomahki debate. So there were people have been high on Fire Force this season, which is sick because overall I do like Fire Force a lot. It's good job. This week, people have been just fucking like, they're like Fire Force is the king of the season because of this episode. People love this episode. Wild. And I'm interested in hearing. I'm not saying it's wild to love this episode. Good episode. Very fun episode. But it just, I didn't know the sentiment was so positive. If you are like taking it in the grand scheme of this half of the season and this season, and not comparing it to like JJK, Freeran, whatever. This, like it's undeniable. Like this episode is in like 8K resolution. Yeah, it's gorgeous. It does like the demon slayer thing where every other shot looks like a 4K wallpaper that you put on your screensaver. Like when he's got his lightning sword and he's like flying towards the camera. I'm like, holy shit. This is like infinity castle looking. It's not as good as infinity castle. Of course, they have like a hundred million dollar budget. Yeah, exactly. But like, dude, when they go to the fucking moon, I love the moon. Moon's great. More anime gotta take it to the moon. I fucking know you gotta finish Naruto. Correct. I don't, I take it back. I don't want Naruto on the moon. Yeah, there's all, several arcs revolve around the moon, in Shippuden and beyond. I, this, I said it's like all the, after like episode five, it's all the moon. All the moon. Yeah, episode like 450 on a Naruto is just all moon shit. The moon's just so cool. The only issue I have with them going to the moon in this episode, like make it look silly. Make the moon looks, they go to the moon and it's like our moon again. And the whole bit of this season is that the moon looks crazy. You know what's crazy? Then Arthur gets blasted into a like a gold star. Yeah. He gets blasted into a star and it explodes into like ha ha, fake star. You're right. They just land on like the cheese wheel in the sky. Go, fighting its mouth. They should have landed in like its bloody teeth. They're fighting its big eyes. You're 100% right. I didn't even clock that. Yeah. What'd you feel about this episode? There was so much going on here. I said, first note that we talked about earlier, I think this was pre us recording said, is Arthur Mexican? Yeah, why? Because there's a Dia del Muerte skeleton in the beginning. Like there's like a candy skull that gets dropped down. I was like, what does this have to do with Arthur at all? Yeah, blonde hair, blue eyes to Arthur. Yeah, blonde hair, blue eyes to fucking Japanese possible citizen Arthur. Yeah, mate possibly Mexican. And then I said, now as to why Arthur can eat the teleport, I don't remember. Are you talking about what skull? Like 30 seconds in. Dude, it's the fucking soul eater skull. Bozo? What, Bozo's the name of the skull? No, Bozo's the name of you. You're a soul eater skull? It's like death the kid's Bolo tie. And it deaths the man's face. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. That's not it. That's not it. I don't know what I'm talking about. That is, I mean, I know exactly what you're talking about. Dorothy, there's literally, it's in front of you. It's literally in front of you. It's this. No, I'm saying there's actually like a candy skull. Like for some reason it's like, like there's like the first 30 seconds, there is a cutaway and in that cutaway, Arthur, it might be in that like fucking, I don't know. Anyways, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. There's a candy skull in somewhere in like the first three minutes of the episode, but that doesn't matter at all. I also said, honestly, you're extolling how incredible this fight looked. I thought the beginning of the fight didn't look that great. I thought like the first like couple of minutes of the fight was like some like very like slideshow. Like slide showy, yeah. It was a slide showy animation. I was like, wow, I really wish like, I really wish like the beginning of this fight had less slideshow animation. Like it's also like, it gets immediately, it's just a demon slayer thing where the fight starts and then you immediately flash to like, oh, dragon's backstory. I agree. The first half of the episode is pretty slideshowy. Yeah. And it's, there are a lot of instances where Arthur is like, and if you think that's the case, then you're done for. And then it cuts to dragon and he's just, oh! Yeah. Breathing fire already. I have like literally every time they're like, they like get into power class. Dragon's like, I can also shoot laser beams. Oh yeah, by the way, I can raise volcanoes out of the ocean. Like I'm fucking Roshi or I can just, and every single time Arthur just goes and eats it. Yeah. Every, you can see by like six laser beams. Yeah. There are a lot of still images in the first half. But the episode picks up once they like take the fight to the ocean and like dragon gets blasted into the ocean. And then they just like fully 4K ultra render in the entire ocean falling in on him. I was like, oh my God, all the budget went into the water effects here, like the GTA five. There's that. And when they went into on the moon. Mecha guts. Mecha guts? Yeah. Fucking dragon turns into mecha guts. Oh yeah. He turns into like a combo of like a fucking a Gundam and fucking guts is dragon armor. Yeah. The Berserker armor. Yeah. When they go to the moon, like the resolution kicks into eighth gear, which is very cool. And I agree in terms of like the fight itself, it's not a fight that I'll probably like go back to because we're more into like choreography. And this is a lot of just like big slashes. Some cool moments though. Some cool moments. I would also get his eye slashed. Well, that's the thing. This, yeah, he gets his eye slashed. And it's like a trunks moment where it takes you a second to realize the slash goes into his eyeball. It's like Tengen. Remember when Tengen gets slashed across the eyeball. Oh yeah. But this is like, like his eyes stays open for a bit. And you see the slash in it. And so I'm like, oh wait, fuck that cut his eye. Yeah, he's fox. Yeah. It cuts his eye. He loses a hand and there's this great. But so does dragon. So does dragon. But there's a great building sense of like, oh, Arthur like might die. Yeah. And then he dies. And then he dies. Yeah. And then he's blown the fuck away by a dragon first. You literally see him sliding. There's this moment here where they blast up onto the moon. Like he gets pierced through the chest. Like with two of dragon's claws. And you're like, oh that's- Lungs are gone. You're like, that is super fatal. Doesn't matter if you have lungs, they're in space. They're in space. He put on a star ring so we could breathe in space which fucking you crafted him. He's somehow surviving in the vacuum of space. And that's kind of like, people are gonna be like, oh, the ending of Fire Forces doesn't make any sense. That's the fucking point. Like if you're like, oh, why can Arthur breathe in space? Why is everyone getting more powerful? Why is the earth on fire? Like the entire idea of Adola getting closer to earth is that imagination has now become reality. You can basically, anything that is like the collective imagining can become reality. And so if Arthur wants to believe, not only because of his delusion ability but also because Adola and earth are now linked, he can breathe in space. He can. That's just the way that it works. This character is like the perfect character to send to space. Exactly. And so he gets like stabbed through the chest and like fuck Arthur's gone. And Arthur stabs dragon through the chest and then they separate. Like Arthur loses one of his eyes and then like dragon's flying away essentially. And like he's putting all of his power into this final slash. And it's like, you know when Goku slides his Kamehameha across Caliphaz and then blasts her? It's like that, but he doesn't dodge. Like it's like he doesn't. It's like if Goku like slid his Kamehameha across Caliphaz and then like hit her with it and it disappeared, he's like, fuck it. You hit me? You hit me everywhere? He was just ribcage up his left because that's exactly what happens. He's just coming in for the final slash. And he's like just getting rid of the bottom half of his body and you're like, wait, it looks like Arthur, it looks like Arthur's getting hit like fucking bad. And then just slashes through half a dragon, cuts the earth in half and then one armed Arthur is just a fucking stump floating in space. It's like freezing now. Yes, literally, but less somehow. Yeah, that was awesome. What an awesome way for him to die. I love that he cuts the earth in half. I love that he takes the blast and just rides it down. I also thought of Ultra Instinct Goku. Yeah, it was sick. Like I get why people would be so high on this episode. If you're a hype for Fire Force, never wavered. Like if you didn't, if it didn't take a hit in part one of season three and you have just been riding the hype from like episode one till now, I could see this being like your favorite episode of anything ever. I did like JJK a lot though. JJK was awesome. Dude, this episode of JJK was fucking sick. None of that happens in the manga. Fucking none of it happens in the manga, dude. I listen, I don't know what they are feeding and or not feeding to the animators at Mapa, but every single fight sequence, they're like, what if this was three times longer and sick as hell? Either the animators and director love the manga and like really understand it or they don't like it at all and are like, all right, we're just gonna dick around for like 22 minutes. I don't understand, because they're fucking just shooting the shit here. This sequence, like I'll see if I can find the sequence of Higuruma versus Yuji, but that sequence is like probably the fight between Higuruma and Yuji. It's not like a short fight by any means, but it's probably, I don't know. Make sure you find the finished manga too. Because the last time you showed me some like unfinished panels and everyone got mad. What do you mean? Of the Maki fight. Apparently he released some like unfinished panels, maybe like digitally and then they like re-did them for the physical release. If they fucking did, Wait, wait, don't joke out, I'll fit in. Fucking, listen, I read on fucking Shonen Jump. If they wanna fucking tell Gage to update the thing that everybody uses to read manga. That's fair. If I pull up chapter 168 for Danny to look at here, it's because that's actually close here. A couple weeks ago, Nick had said that he was like, many people consider the Konoha Crush and whatever or two Naruto arcs, what would I say? Yes, yeah. I said, so like a lot of people said that the Kulling Games and the Shibui Incident are two of the best manga arcs but packed back. And I would say that the key competitor for me, if I was to find two consecutive manga arcs, I think they're like some of the greatest of all time, would be the Land of Waves arc and the Tune in Exams. Right, and someone stitched that and they were like, no hate to OA, but like, you guys gotta read more manga. You gotta watch more anime because like, there is no way you think these, both examples are the two best back to back arcs. Starts bringing up examples from like Kingdom, like Monster, Vagabond. Vagabond, like 20th century boys. And I sent it to Nick. And usually when I send stuff like this to Nick, it comes with a preface of me being like, hey, listen, if you respond, just like, you know, keep it chill, keep it tempered. I don't want any beef with some like really small creators or whatever. But I just sent it to Nick. And before I could even say that, Nick was like, wrote back like, Vagabond, 20th century boys. Read some actual manga. You fucking conk, yeah. You're like, read some normal person manga. And then he was like, here's an incredibly nuanced and probably corrects manga taken. I was like, what an asshole. Fuck, it's not reading better shit than me, you dick. I know, I love Nick was like, you were just like, yeah, read some normie shit, you fucking nerd. You fucking loser. Consider it, consider it, read this stuff for the people who have a fourth grade reading comprehension level here. Yeah, all right. So everything from there is like the fight, basically. Guilty. The confiscation. Man, our friend, Meggie Cosplay, did Judge Man and her cosplay is sick. Is it like a big cloak? She's like a big cloak and she's like fucking wires over her eyes. It looks dope as hell. God, I can't imagine going from the anime to manga. Why? The anime is just so sick. So the anime, listen, once again, like I've made this point before and I'll make it again. JJK's anime is better than its manga. That's just, there's no, there's no way to argue that point. Like it's just JJK's manga is good. It's great even, but like it's just, the anime is just, it's just in excels beyond anything the manga could possibly pull off. How'd you feel about the fact that I think Higuruma looks like a Bob's Burgers character? I don't, I'm still, I'm still not entirely sure what you're getting at there. He's just got like a Bob's Burgers ass nose, Bob's Burgers ass eyes. I guess I could kind of see it. It kind of looks like a Muppet. It kind of looks like a Muppet in the manga. He is Muppet-y and the anime. Unfortunately, this is a take that no one is gonna like because the internet is getting real horny for Higuruma. I can see that he's sad. Oh, he's sad and he's six-five. Yeah. Basically he's- Five! Six-five! Oh my God. Dude that's things like fucking Gege knows how to make the fan service for women. I wrote, will Judge Man ever prosecute someone for a crime they didn't commit? I guess technically. 100% yeah. Cause Yuji- My first question was gonna be, do you understand deadly sentencing? Yeah, he explains it thoroughly. Yeah, I don't know. The only thing that I was like, it seems unfair that Judge Man gets to just like pull a crime out of thin air. Like, well I'm like, will Judge Man ever pull a crime that you're like, no I just objectively didn't do that. You know what I mean? Uh-huh, gotcha. It's like- Because the first one's not fair cause he did it. But the thing is he has to prove, like that's things like that it's all a metaphor for the legal system, right? It's like, it's only a matter of what you can prove. Like it's like- Right. If he did it or if he didn't do it, if he makes compelling enough counter argument for Judge Man who doesn't have a bias, then he can like come off as innocent. It's just- But you're also going against like a fucking prodigy lawyer. It's bullshit. Well I guess the thing is though, the difference for me is that the first one feels unfair. Cause there's really, the defense is so much harder than the second one. Cause the second one was like, Yuji Itadori mass murdered, you know, 100,000 people. And I was like, so who can I did it? Yeah, but- Yeah, like yeah, plead insanity. That one's so much easier than like, you were caught on camera in this fucking thing. Yeah, cause well, but the thing is he only had, he only had evidence of him going to the cash machine. So we didn't even know that he had actually entered the Pachinko, like he didn't have actual hard evidence that he had entered the Pachinko slot place. So if he was like, I never went in. Exactly, I never went in and then there would never been evidence that he actually did. He could have got like a mistrial or something. I like the lore building of like, what the fuck is it called? Domain expansions. Domain expansions used to be non-lethal. And they used to be weird mini games. Well, it was like, it was like, like it was Sumo wrestler, basically like two Sumo wrestlers who'd open their domains. And if you got pushed out of it, basically like you lost the match or something. Like they were basically just barrier techniques at one point, you expanded your innate domain and it gave you a guaranteed hit, but it didn't give you a guaranteed kill. And so like the threshold of skill raised, which is why less people can use domain expansions. I like the idea that this domain expansion is like a mini game and if you lose, there is a consequence. I wonder if you win, you get anything. Well, like a buff. You can't, no. If you're found innocent, you should get a buff. You should get a buff. You should get like a, yeah, like fucking, hegel rumah has to like face public, like public shame or something. You couldn't prosecute the villain, you asshole. Cause like, yeah, that would just end. Like that was like, the domain expansion would just end. Judgement would be like safe. And then it would just be like, cool. And then it would just be like domain expansion again. Then it would actually like after you open your domain. Well, you probably do double jeopardy. Can't, but if on the retrial, he was like, I want to retrial in this different crime. Yeah, exactly. But I guess that's him. That was the person being prosecuted. No, but if he, if, oh, you think he could keep hitting you with different crimes? Well, the problem is, so after you close your domain expansion, if you lose the domain clash, your brain goes into like, you can't really use cursed energy or cursed, like techniques for a while. So he wouldn't be able to use domain expansion back to back. That's the issue. So like he would use domain expansion and then it wouldn't work basically. And then he could either just try to kill you as a sorcerer or he could try and use it again and hope he brings up another crime. And then you're back to arguing. Gotcha. But yeah, I like, I, I wish there were more domain expansions in JJK. It feels like there were a lot in season one and then none in season two. Self embodiment of perfection, malevolent shrine, chimera shadow garden, deadly sentencing. But also I wish they were all like deadly sentencing where it's like a game you have to win, like Shaolin showdown. Well, that's kind of thing. Like that's like, that's where they're like, oh, like, Yeah, yeah, they've, they've gotten strong. Oh, there's, if you want, you're going to love, there's a character you've already met. You're going to love their domain expansion. You're going to, yes, you'll have a lot. Big Pachinko machine. Yes, literally. If you're looking for fucking mini games and domain expansion, boy, oh boy, I have a domain expansion for you. Well, because that's so much more fun than when malevolent shrine, which just hits you with the slap chop. Yeah, he's getting fucking diced and sliced here. Yeah, he's like, I'm going to slap your nuts. Oh, slap your nuts. I'm going to dice it. Um, but, uh, That guy was on so much coke. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. He's in jail. He's in jail? Yeah, that dude. I think that guy, the guy who sold sham Wow, slap chop. Yeah, I went to jail. That's good. That's good. Um, fucking. I like, oh, my other note, other than will judge man ever prosecute someone for a crime they didn't commit. Um, what they were, mine was goddamn, they're going crazy with his hammer. That sequence where he, rumour is Insta spawning hammers strong at him does not exist in the manga. My favorite edition of the season outside of Kiraura literally missed boarding herself with fucking coins where he gatlings them and he's running. Yeah. I like when, uh, when he does that and then he's like, do you not have cursed energy right now? And then he's like, aren't you the one who did this to me? Yeah, like you put me in this position or when he fucking takes that flying knee into Yuji's chest and bounces them off the, off the, uh, like the stage. Yeah. Also the big extend, though, hammer, like trying to like play that like Mario mini game to get it to hit like the right area. That was sweet. I love Yuji grabbing it and then calling for a retrial. Yeah. That's great. Um, my other note was, oh my God, shut the fuck up. Can you guess when? Oh my God, shut the fuck up. Have you ever killed someone of your own volition? Danny, did you see the post-credits scene, players transfer points? So Yuji doesn't have to talk, no jutsu. I, I'm assuming when he just said, yes, I did it. No, there is a bit where like early in the fight when he first gets his little gavel and it's staying small. I like when it stays small and it's all fucking Wing Chun with a tiny hammer. Um, there's a bit where I'm watching like the best choreography I've ever seen in anime. And they're doing a breakdown on how Higa Room has been killing curses and everything. Yeah, Tengen won't shut the hell up. And I can't watch any of it because I'm reading this whole backstory. That was like the most egregious example of like, holy shit, give me the dub right now. Yeah. It was literally, you're just like, you're like watching the fight with one eye and like reading the subtitles. And also it's like so not relevant information. Like, oh, this is why Higa Room is strong. I don't fucking say he's a genius. Yeah, I buy it. They're like, oh, hey, the second he awoke he was cursed at Diki, he's killed countless cursed spirits and they open his domain two weeks later. It's like, I don't fucking, I don't give a shit. Everyone they encounter in JJK is a new like God level threat. Exactly. Like, did you see recently Gege Akatami was like, Sukuna or a Gojo can never beat Akashi, Kakashi. Gojo could net, yeah, of course, yeah. Wow. And then he said that he was inspired by, they were like, oh, they're, Oh, by the fucking proctor from the tuning exams. He was, yeah, I sent you that. He was like, Gojo, everyone thinks Gojo is inspired by Kakashi, but he went up to, who's who made Naruto? Shikimoto? Kishimoto. Kishimoto, he was like, I went up to Kishimoto and I was like, actually, Gojo is inspired by the proctor with the headband and the like nose bandages. That guy. Kogetsu? Yeah, he's like, that Gojo's inspired by the guy with like the bandages on his face, the proctor from the tuning exams. And then Kishimoto was like, there's a guy like that in Naruto. Yeah, this is literally, this is like ever, the joke is like, this is like background character A. Kogetsu is like the least relevant, relevant character. Like if there's a cutoff, he's the last person to make it. I just love Kishimoto being like, who? That's the most Kishimoto response of all time that motherfucker does not know his own universe. Everyone, do you remember when Akira Toriyama died and a bunch of mangaka were like drawing Dragon Ball characters and saying quotes? Like you, like, you know, you may be gone, but you'll never be forgotten. Like Kishimoto. And I ran through a few of those. I did a bit where it was like the mangaka of Black Clover. Who? Yes. Who is that? Anybody under 30? Like fucking, I don't, that old guy we haven't seen in 50 years. What are we talking about? I know him for his editors. But yeah, we're just, it would go through like awesome cinematography or choreography and Tengen would not shut his dumb ass mouth. And then we got the executioner blade. Yeah, I almost was like, oh, does this make Kigurumo like the strongest sorcerer? No, I don't think it does. Why? Because he has to still hit somebody. Because he still has to hit you. Yeah, he's still gonna slice you with the sword. It gives him an insta-kill weapon, but he needs to hit you with it. Well, I mean, Yuji's a bad fucking sample size. Pretty much anybody else who's not breaking world records at shot put without cursed energy is a fucking, it's gonna be a lot easier to hit. I guess it does also give you confiscation. It is kind of literally exactly what's going on with Izawa, where it was like fucking, oh, cool, you got rid of my quark. I weigh 350. I'm gonna, I'm going to break you. Yeah, I wonder if it's a thing where it's like, if it touches you, you die. Is it like, yeah, it's like electric. Is that drilling? Yeah, it's like what? Like electric. Like you don't need to get caught. You just need to get hit. You literally, if you get sliced on the forearm, you die. Yeah, exactly. That's the answer. It's electric. It's electric. Wogie, wogie, wogie, wogie. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. We haven't had a song for white people where they tell you how to do the dance in what, 25 years? Hot to go. That's just words. H-O-T-T-O. Oh, no. Oh, oh, oh. H-O. That's as close as we got. Right? That's it. The Humpty Dance? Do the Humpty Dance. But that was like 20 years ago. There was a time when like, and they were like, listen, we gotta get these fucking crackers moving. And in order to do that, we gotta tell them exactly this whole songs. Just gotta be step-by-step, Ikea fucking instructions on how to dance. Yeah, it was a lot of like, do the blank. Yeah. Do the electrical. Do the electric. Side to the left. Side to the right. One hop this time. Two hop this time. Criss-cross. Criss-cross. Criss-cross. Oh, fuck it's stay guys, it's stuck, Criss-cross. My pants are going back. Oh, my God, my spine. Dude, they'd keep doing it too. Like people wouldn't break formation. Oh, no. It's cold mentality. It's horrifying to watch. I love like, one hop this time. Two hops this time. Four hops this time. 16 hops this time. What, what, what, what, what? Temple rim, are we on eight? Are we on, we're doing three, 24s? What is that? My friend and I, or Josh and I used to do a bit where it's like, slide to the left. Slide to the right. Get your mom's purse. Grab out that 20. Go to the store. Buy a gun. Benadryl, hat man. Bah, bah, listen to him. It like cuts and you're in the courtroom and you're like, the boombox is in your lawyer's chair. It's like, all right, listen, just let me do the talking. Don't, don't fucking, don't fuck this up. There's a, there's a full, there's a full skin about this. I think it's the whitest kid you know skin. Probably. Where it's like, aw, it's like the twisted, it's like, stop it. Loved it. It turns into a gun. No, it's fucking robot chicken. That's what it is. Aw yeah, it's robot chicken. It's fucking great skin. All right, that's pretty much, oh, what? Is this better than a Jozo fight? No, no, no. Cause there's no this. There's no fucking, listen, the, what this has going forward is the fucking, the, the, the rapid fire hammers. Great scene. Extendo hammer, great scene. It doesn't, I mean, nothing will have it like blood laser and then also the raid reference and like a huge, like there's like also the fact that like all that was like blue scaled and the waters falling and shows us like hardening his blood. He's grabbing like a blood knife and he stabs Eugene the foot. So many hardcore moments in that fight. Just fucking sick. This is a great fight. Not the best fight of the season, which is crazy. Consider the fact that this is. What is Maki? Maki, no, probably. I mean, that's just, that's gonna be, that's probably the best fight of the show. It's a big real. It's like fucking, it's like a piece of cinema. It's crazy. I think there's arguments. There's arguments for. Maharaga, Chozo. Guys, you're just, you're just, this show filled with the best fights ever penned. It's all fights. It's all good fights. It's all just fucking the best artwork you've ever seen. And then people have the audacity to be like, Fire Force had a good episode once. How fucking dare they? Grow up. Grow up. This is literally just our generation's one punch man. Like every. In terms of what? This is just what season one of one punch man. 100%. Every episode is like an unbelievable high caliber fight with like an unreal animation team. People are like, why won't that animation team come back? It's cause they're all working on JJK. Or they've all, yeah, or just been killed literally by their jobs. Or Mappa was like, they got a contract to work somewhere else for a livable wage and Mappa shot them in front of their family. Did you see the ending scene? Did you see them pass the rule? It was after the credits. Where he gives him, oh no, he didn't. After the credits. No, he gives them the hundred points. Yeah, that's it. He gives them a hundred points and then they pass the rule and then he grew him a transfers one point to UG. Does fucking what's his face not have to, wait, transfers what to him? One point to UG. Oh, he gets a single point. Yeah, but you only like is the rule is if your points don't change over 19 days, you got cursed technique removal and you die. So as long as you lower or higher your points by transferring them, then you can stay alive. We're gonna fight Reggie. Oh, oh buddy, we're gonna fight Reggie. Let's go. You're gonna love, you're gonna love Reggie. I'm so excited. Reggie is a fucking, listen, I got a lot of good things to say about Reggie Star. Queer coded character, representation matters. Big chicken looking man. Big chicken looking man, a YIata Louisiana lawyer kind of thing, you know, like long, long horn leg foot, whatever his fucking name is. Foghorn leg horn. Yeah, Foghorn leg short. That makes more sense than what I said. That's his name. That's his name, 100% is just nonsensical. Yeah, he's the best. He's awesome. He's got a silly ass fucking technique. All right, that brings us to our game for the day, ladies and gentlemen, which is thanks to Batman, who's been cooking us up a new game here. So I'm gonna pop over to our newest games. Today me and Danny are playing who's the more hated anime character. We have a list of 13 pairings of hated anime characters. And we have to figure out which of these two was ranked as more hated on Ranker. You got it? Cool. Danny, which one of these characters is more hated according to Ranker? Hisaka or Zenitsu? I think Demon Slayer is objectively more popular. Then Hunter, Hunter. 100%. That's so not shocking. So not shocking. Next con we go to literally anime expose. It's older. Literally anime expose. Let's bring like a photo of Gone and a photo of Tanjiro and see if the same amount of people can guess both. In terms of like who was this? Yeah, I'd be like who was this and then who was this, thank you, goodbye. I like that and we'll do like a both mark as well. And also, yeah, it's older. Me saying it's less popular doesn't mean it's bad. It's from fucking 1981. Yes, 1981 exactly. Before UU, it was UU Hawker Show's prequel. Yeah, I think OG Hunter, Hunter's from like 99. The anime is from 99, the manga's from like 96. And the remade it in like 2011. Exactly. Anyway, I think Zenitsu by sheer force of more people know him. And also, Hisoka isn't hated unless you like watch the show like fully. You know what I mean? Like people who haven't seen the show look at Hisoka's design and they're like, that's actually rad, he looks sick. Yes. You look at Zenitsu and you're like, I could tell I hate that bitch. You're just gonna see like him crying, you're gonna see a TV version, you're gonna see him grabbing at Nezuko and being like marry me kind of thing. Also, this is gonna sound crazy. But like Zenitsu not until recently, like Zenitsu has his moments, he has his battle against the spider demon and all of that, but like most of the time he's on the screen, he's annoying. Hisoka when he's on the screen, he's at least a compelling character. You're like, oh he's creepy, but he's still compelling. And because he's like interesting, like a lot of people actually really like Hisoka as a character. And they're just like, yeah, I ignore the aspects of him looking at kids, but I'm also gonna go with Zenitsu. Cause I think that's the right choice. Zenitsu does have good moments. I love when he's gripping around Nezuko's box and fucking Anosuke's beating the crap out of him. Just breaking his ribs individually, like a handheld saw trap. Yeah, just beating the shit out of him. And he's like, why are you holding on to that? And he's like, because Tadro told me to. The fuck, I made a promise, boar man. Yeah, that bitch's awesome. All right, our answer was number, so Hisoka is number 198 on the list. Zenitsu is number 195. We were right. Zenitsu is more hated than Hisoka according to Ranker. That makes sense. He's also in it more, I assume. Then Hisoka, I mean, he's one of the main characters. Well, exactly. Danny, which one of these characters is more hated on Ranker? Show Tucker or Griffith? This is tough because I genuinely don't know which is more popular. FMAB. It's old. And so is Berserk. Boy, oh boy, so is Berserk. Berserk is older. There's little arguments for how Casca is treated over the course of the manga. People were like, it was the 90s. Right. It was, he was grandfathered head, it's fine. Yeah, and also, well, my other defense to Full Metal Alchemist is that- Show Tucker's not hot. He's not bad looking. I mean, he's no Griffith. He's no Griffith. He's an okay looking man for a man who's balding. Yeah, exactly. My other defense is that Berserk is just a manga kind of technically. Yes, there was an anime that's been attempted like four separate times and every time like, we can't figure it out. And like everyone's like, please, we just don't want CG. People do fun, like think fondly of like the 99 or whatever it came out anime, but like it's not getting talked about a ton. Yes. It's also by the same studio that made Pokemon. Isn't that crazy? Didn't know that. Yeah. Man, Griffith or Show Tucker. I feel like knowing Griffith is a bad character is like a meme, but also knowing Show Tucker is a bad. These are both meme bad characters, but I think Show Tucker is a more powerful. Cause if you ask people like, oh, why is Griffith bad? I bet you the majority of people who know Griffith is a bad character don't know why Griffith is bad. Because I haven't read it. Exactly. I agree. Yeah, it is more. I think more people know the meme than have a red berserk. Exactly. I think the majority of the people, I bet you 40% of the people with the mark of the sufferer or the mark of the pastor or whatever you call it, haven't read berserk. With the tattoo, I agree. I bet you 40% of the people with the blood born. 100%, 40% of the people with the fucking berserk tattoo have not read the manga. I saw, I have a mutual who has that tattoo. And I was also wondering that because they have Cascas. Yes. They have Cascas on their chest. And I'm like, huh. Yeah. Huh. Interesting tattoo. Yeah, why'd you get it there exactly? You didn't want to do Guts's location, you know? Like, interesting. Yeah. But I think, I think like you said with Hisoka though, Griffith is very compelling. Yeah. And Shou Tucker is like the second he's on screen, you get a bad vibe. And then once the betrayal happens, you're like, kill this guy instantly. Like immediately, like he's one episode of really concentrated hate, hatred. Are we both going to show Tucker? I think it's also Shou Tucker, just from like a fame standpoint. So Shou Tucker is number one, Griffith is 15. The most hated anime character is Shou Tucker. I'm gonna be honest, I have a hot take. I feel like that's too high. You feel like that's, who would you say is higher than Shou Tucker? But Frieza has good moments. What are we basing it on? Because like, just general hated sentiments. Like I hate this character, so I'll vote him to the top. It's interesting though, because like with Zenitsu, Zenitsu's like moment. 195. Zenitsu's moments that I hate. I hate more than Shou Tucker. Like Shou Tucker obviously did something worse, but it's like compelling fiction. Yes, he's a good antagonist. If he showed up again, I'd be excited to see him. Whereas if an episode of Demon Slayer, if I saw like the little preview for the next episode, and it was like, Zenitsu crashes a wedding or a bridesmaids party, I'd be like, I'm skipping this episode. I'm skipping that episode. I hate this so much, and it is actively ruining the show. Shou Tucker doesn't ruin the show. I feel like the worst character should be somebody who ruins the show. So it should be like a Toma Key almost. It should be like a Toma Key. Like Zenitsu I think should be higher. Even though I like him. Even though I like him. Even though I like him. Even though I like him. Yeah, like if Shou Tucker showed up in more episodes, I'd be like, oh, I'm interested to see where this goes. He's a compelling villain. Yeah. And it was characters hated more according to Ranker. Arlong from One Piece or Cubay from Madoka Magica. Oh. Yeah. It's Arlong. You think, cause more people obviously know Arlong. Arlong's a really bad person. He basically enslave Nami. It's easier to hate Arlong. Also, just look at them. Oh, just look at fish people. Well-known celestial dragon here, Danny Mada. Just look at that saw tooth nose fuck. Look at him compared to Cubay. Yeah, that's fair. Cubay's just like a cute little plush with like giant, like nonsensical earrings. Yeah. Also, technically, Cubay not in charge of what it's doing. Cubay's like a cosmic entity created against its own will that has to propagate the witch machine. It doesn't do it cause it likes it. It does it cause it has to. No, that's not true. It has like a mental block telling it. It does not emote the way humans do. Yes. But it's not that it's like, it's not like the Asaimon or the Tenzin or whatever, where they're begrudgingly doing it. Cubay's like, I literally do not understand why you things cry. Yeah. And he's like, by the way, your friend's a witch now. So I don't know, deal with that maybe. Cubay, by the end of Madoka Magica, even though he is like awful and like an allegory for like, I think like those creeps in malls who like, who signed up girls to be idols. Yes, I know that's it. That's it. Yes. Which is awesome. Yeah. Not as a profession, but as an allegory. Oh yeah, as an allegory for this being bad. 100%. Yeah. I think that's great. Homer just chasing him down and fucking hallways with her shotgun. Like get back here you fucking cat. When you, when the reveals come, and maybe this is just me and people disagree, but when like the Cubay reveal happens, and he's like, I'm not cute. This is just what my species looks like. Or he's like, yeah, I'm not happy. This is just what we sound like. I don't feel hatred. I'm like, you fucking stinker. Like I'm like, I'm like, this is so hilariously evil. Whereas our long, I'm like, I can't believe what you've done to Nami. This is unreal. And you're like literally just like, also like, yeah, you're forcing this entire village to try and collect you. Like you're forcing Nami to try and buy her village back. And then you steal all her money from her. I'm also gonna go with our long here. Our long is number 35 Cubays 33. Cubays higher than our long. Holy, but two spots. Wow. Wow, indeed. I get it. I guess. Again, because the allegory is like a predate, a mall predator. Yes. But our long's a Yakuza boss. So it's like. 100%. Like he's literally just like running a racketeering charge against like fucking a bunch of innocent like people who are living on an island trying to be peaceful while they grow their Clementines. I think Cubay for me is more fun to hate. Exactly. So like the emotion doesn't feel like hatred. Where's our long? I'm like, when he takes. It's so black and white. It's something that we can conceptualize with ease. Yeah. All right. Danny, which character is more hated according to Ranker? Manetta or Jason from Tokyo Ghoul. Manetta, right? Oh, it's got to be Manetta. Because again, Manetta ruins the show that he's in. Also because Jason dies like fucking like Ken Kaneki gets like tortured by Jason. There's the 1000 minus seven. And then the second he gets his powers. The first thing that he does is kill Jason. I so don't have a good read on like how people perceive Jason. Because when I was in ninth grade, eighth or ninth grade, I was talking to this girl who was a real edgy. Oh yeah. And she was like, she was like, oh that Tokyo Ghoul scene where Jason tortures Ken Kaneki or whatever. She's like, that's so hot. That shit's so hot. And I'm like, what 13? And I'm like, I guess this is my sexuality now. Oh my God. She was like, I love the part where she puts a fucking centipede in his ear. That girl's either dead or in prison. Dude, if you look up that scene, a lot of the comments are this is so hot. It's him ripping the fingers off a child with fucking like sheer bolts and then putting millipedes in his ears. That's hot. That's crazy. Prison for everybody who enjoyed that scene. Oh my God. It's got to be Manetta though. Yeah. And then H.A. ended with everyone being like, we did it guys. We beat Shiguraki. And then Snipes went, oops, and put a bullet through Manetta's fucking skull. Perfect ending. I'd love like a- He's resisting. Straight through. I'd love a fan animation where like Snipes, it's just the core group of my hero, like just one A. And for some reason Snipes is there. Yeah. And they're like, we did it guys. Yay. And Snipes is like three cheers. Oh, oh, oh, oh. And he does that for like actually 45 seconds. Yeah. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Somebody grab it. Somebody grab it. Fuck my hands. It's coming to me. Bang. I didn't like breezes by Manetta. And he's like, Oh, oh, oh. He gets just like, like once the first time he ever misses. Like really, really is desperately trying to get a hold on this gun. It's like two minutes of it. Like a loop. And he's like Rock-Locks trying to freeze it for him. And just like, just keep pulling the trigger. Hit Manetta. I hope it's Manetta. Manetta is number two. Jason is 11. That's so high. That's too high. Shao Tucker, oh, was one. No. Griffith is like 13. Who was up against Zenitsu? He's Soka. He's Soka was like 195. Yeah. And this. He's Soka's a real life confirmed pedophile. And Jason just tortured a guy into getting better hair. Yeah. And cooler politics. Just. Just, that's it. What was Manetta? He said two. Yeah. Good. Good. No, Manetta is no 22. Jason's 11. Yeah. Jason's more hated than Manetta. Ridiculous. Manetta shouldn't be 22. I'll say that right now. In terms of the worst pervy character of all time. True. I think it's gotta be him. The most annoying pervy. Of all time. I mean, I hope that he's a kid. Sanji's worse. At least Sanji's got some redeeming qualities. Like Sanji's got some redeeming quality. Manetta has legitimate. There's no, there's no like, oh, that was a cool moment for Manetta. There's no cool fights for Manetta. There's no cool dialogue. Manetta's not one of the worst pervy characters. I've seen inner species reviewers. I've, okay, that's it. You watch Konosuba. I watch Konosuba, which is a comic. At least it's funny. Like that's exactly. Manetta's trying. He's trying, but it's never. He's supposed to be funny. But it's never funny. That's the thing. It is like when I watch fucking, not it, I don't remember his name, but when I watch Konosuba, I giggle. Danny, who's the more hated character? Excalibur from Soul Eater or Mellow from Death Note? Please, it has to be Mellow. I, I, I. Mellow? Out of everyone we've talked about, Mellow objectively ruins their own show. And Excalibur objectively makes his show better. Every single, Excalibur, well-known woman getter, great singer, livens up the crowd. The strongest weapon in the entire universe. How can you hate on Excalibur? Good little dude. Great little dude. Why does he look like that? Who knows? Mellow is the embodiment of when Death Note no longer is good. 100%. Like, what did you see, Mellow? I don't even really remember Mellow as a character. Like, I like actively try to block out like everything post L's death. And just like- I think they're the one with the yellow hair? Yes, exactly. And Mere has white hair and I only know that because Mellow sounds like yellow in near-automata. Maybe? Yeah, maybe. I have no idea. I'm gonna say Excalibur because like Death Note's a more popular anime than Soul Eater. Wait, you're confused. I'm saying Mellow is more hated. You said Excalibur because Death Note is more popular. Oh, no, no, no. I'm gonna say Mellow because Death Note's a more popular anime. Also because Excalibur is the best. He's my little guy. He's my little stinker. Who are you saying Mellow as well? 100%. Excalibur is number 59. Mellow's number 82. 59 is absurd. You're telling me that Excalibur is 150 some odd point lower than the real life clown pedophile? I don't understand. Sorry, does he have a song? He does actually. His theme music, Fox. Theme music, Fox, it's so good. I don't understand the Excalibur hate. When Scop exists. When Scop, I bet you Scop is probably on this list somewhere. Better be. No, because Scop doesn't have that. Like Excalibur's got that mystique. Excalibur's like, Excalibur people know he's a meme. People are like, oh, when he shows up there's some bullshit that about to happen. It's good bullshit. Scop's gonna say it's great bullshit. Also, if you see Excalibur, skip the episode if you don't like the filler. It's like, oh, cool, one less episode to watch. I'm that much closer to the end. Lovely, cool. Oh, this is a fun one. We'll do this is our last one and then we'll do our reading and then we'll do the others next week. Danny, which character is more hated? Orochi Maru from Naruto or Envy from FMAB? Two long black haired beings switching bodies, changing their appearances, evil, won't die, real immortal types. It's Envy, 100%. You think Envy's more hated than Orochi Maru? Envy kills May's Hughes. Your mood. Orochi Maru kills Heroes in Saratobi. Oh, Orochi Maru kills Rasa Kaze Kage. How much does Rasa Kaze Kage love his daughter? Not as much as May's Hughes. I would say if Rasa loves any of his kids it's probably Tamari, cause she is the least traumatized out of all of them. She's the only one of them that gets married eventually. She finds love. Those are good pairing cause they're very similar. They're very adrogynous. They're very- Immortals. Sassy. Snake-like almost. It's probably Envy. I'd say it's Envy cause Orochi Maru doesn't really have that thing. Orochi Maru doesn't have that thing where it's like, oh fuck Orochi Maru for that specifically. Yeah, kills Heroes in Who Gives a Shit? Didn't raise Naruto. Honestly, probably doing the leaf of favor. Cause that way, Tsunade gets to be the next Hokage. Thank God. Heroes in which it's old and dusty and crusty. Orochi Maru, kinda hot, snakey, creates a bunch of cool Jutsus, helps in the fourth grade Shinobi World War. Good guy by the end of the story. Lean scientist in Konawa. Envy helps as a bug briefly. I guess, kind of. When they were battling against Father. Wait, no. I don't remember. I know he's in a jar and he's like being helpful. Yes, I know. It's like an illusion to like the original state of Father or the Envy. Yeah, something like that. I'm also gonna say Envy here. Envy is number 87, Orochi Maru is 95. Envy is more hated. All right, that brings us to our Patreon exclusive content. Ladies and gentlemen, so we love you guys so, so, so, so, so much for hanging out with us this week. We're not going to be doing love letters because our love letter this week is going to be some Patreon exclusive content, which is going to be me and Danny reading chapter two of the Zootopia abortion comic. Now neither me nor Danny has read this comic before. Chapter two, I had read chapter one previous to me and Danny reading it. This is, we're going to be heading into completely unknown waters here. We have no idea what we're getting into here. Is there going to be more pro life, pro choice conversations happening? Will Nick and Judy get back together? 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