Armchair Anonymous: Meet Cute III

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Okay, so tell me, where did this meet Q take place? All right. So it took place in Philadelphia. And first, just a little backstory, a little information about me as a kid and a teenager. I was a baton twerler and a juggler. Just a all around musical theater nerd. So those are my big hobbies. Maybe your high school is different than mine, but I don't remember the baton twerler and the juggler being like the bell of the ball, necessarily. You're right. Musical theater was kind of separate, a little cooler. And the baton twerler and juggler was really my own thing that my friends didn't really understand. Were you in pageants? I was. And I just enjoyed the fun of it. I didn't want to compete. Now I could see that hobby bringing you into other cultures. Like because the grateful dead people were so into different hand toys, I could be like, well, fuck, maybe that's my home. Object manipulation, they call it. Oh, object manipulation. So if there was like a school talent show, that was my jam. So my story begins in 2011 in Philadelphia. I was 24 and I was fresh out of college, figuring out what I wanted to do with my life. I wasn't sure what direction I wanted to go in and I thought maybe I wanted to be a teacher, work with kids. I had all these part time seasonal jobs. What degree had you picked up? I had a degree in music in English. So neither one super useful. And I was thinking about going back to school to get my teaching degree. But at this point, I was about to leave for an outdoor education job that was going to be Massachusetts for three months. And before I left, I got this call from an old high school friend and she told me that she had extra tickets to the Philadelphia Folk Festival the next day. Her parents weren't going to use their tickets and wanted to know if I wanted to join. And I said, sure, that sounds like fun. So I go to this Folk Festival. And the Fili Folk Festival is really fun. It's folk music, banjos, guitars, lots of hippies wearing tie dye. There's no overlap with a Renaissance festival, right? You're not even turkey drumsticks and throwing axes or anything. No, none of that. It's more about the music and camping. It's still kind of dirty and hot and people get into it. But it's a little different than the Renaissance Fair vibe. So at the Folk Festival, there's also this family-friendly area where there's like kids activities and kids music. And it's in this nice shady grassy area. And every year at the Philadelphia Folk Festival, this circus troupe called the Give and Take Jugglers Perform. And I had seen them throughout my childhood over the years. They were kind of like a staple in Philadelphia. They would perform at school assemblies and camps and my Girl Scout troop. And they were this really good natured family-friendly, rotating cast of jugglers. And they put on this Vod Villian classic circus show. They had this colliopee. They would crank and they would play music and they'd bring kids up on stage and juggle around them. They just had this timeless magical quality that was really fascinating to me. And so at the festival, I was excited to watch them and like, really live my childhood. So I park myself in the audience kind of up this hill in the back of the audience and they're performing down at the bottom of the hill. The show starts and this man comes out on stage who I didn't recognize. He had long hair. And he starts to do this routine with his hat. And it's just to music, there's no words. And he's flipping his hat and doing hat tricks. And then he throws his hat to someone in the audience and he mimes to them to throw the hat back like a frisbee and try and get it on his head. Okay. That's the point of the routine. So he throws it to them. They throw it back. It doesn't work. It goes off to the side. It lands on the ground. It's comical. He hands it up. He throws it to the next person. Again, they don't know how to throw a frisbee. It goes somewhere else. And the more he tries, the more comical it gets. Attention is building. Everybody keeps missing and missing. So finally, he works his way down the crowd and he locks eyes with me. You're the perfect yell for this mission. Oh yeah. And so he launches this hat up and over the crowd and I see it sailing towards me and I don't know what came up from here, what gave me this confidence. But I stood up and I caught the hat on my head. Oh, wonderful. The audience gasps and he reacts with surprise and I'm surprised at myself. I didn't plan it or anything. And so I took the hat off and I launched it back to him and it sails over the crowd and it lands perfectly on the ground. Oh, man, man, man, man. This is so sexual. So the show goes on and I kind of forget about him and then after the show is over, I see the performer talking to someone who I was already acquainted with. So I felt comfortable kind of barging in and interrupting their conversation and I said, hi, you threw a hat on my head. What a great moment that was. And he looks at me mysteriously and he goes, we were just talking about moments. Okay. It's like the middle ages. He was trying to say sim. But Jaggler's time. I was like, who is this cute guy? So we talked and I told him that I was also a Jaggler, which was interesting to him. So we juggled together. Really quick. When you juggled together, are you both independently juggling? Are you juggling like tossing back and forth to each other? Yeah, we're tossing back and forth to each other. Yeah, we were passing clubs. That has to be so you fork. I was just with Aaron last weekend and we were talking about how much we miss playing catch with just a ball and a glove and we were talking about the weird magic of that that should not be as enjoyable as it is, but by God is it soothing. So I imagine you put six, seven balls in the mix. It's got to be downright before it insects. If you're good, no one's good at that. When you get it going, you get in the flow. It feels really good. We started talking and before we know it, two hours had gone by and it was time for him to do the next show. So we part and I go home and I immediately stalk him online and come back the next day. I had totally abandoned my friend who had brought me to this festival in the first place and I was just hanging out with him the whole day. We hang out every single day until I have to go to this job in Massachusetts for three months. One of those days we are getting lunch and he asks if I would consider being his juggling partner when I got back and doing the show with him. Oh, yes. You've been dying to join the circus. Yes. I had never considered it as a career, but I had all the skills and I didn't know what I was going to do with my life. So I thought that sounds like a much better idea than getting a regular job. So let's give it a try. When I got back from Massachusetts, I started performing with him and dating at the same time. And we slowly took over the troupe and we've been performing together full time for 14 years. Oh my God. Oh my God. And you're married. And we're married and we have two kids. Oh my gosh. What a great story. Does this activity take you overseas? I could see you guys going to Europe with this routine. We haven't gone overseas with it. We stay pretty local. We're in Philadelphia and so we travel kind of up and down the eastern coast. We do a lot of school assemblies and fairs and community events and things like that. So it's nice because especially now that we have kids, we can stay home. Be home at night. Don't need to take anybody on the road with us. Yeah. Do the kids juggle? Well, my daughter is seven and my son is three. So they're not quite at the juggling level yet, but my daughter is really into gymnastics. And fun tidbit. We still perform every year at the Philadelphia Folk Festival. And last year was the first time that both kids joined us on stage for a routine. Oh. Oh my God. Wow. How cute. Yeah, it was really full circle and made me so happy to bring them to the place where we had met and the whole story started. That's how Buster Douglas got his start. He was a prop in his parents, Vaudeville Act. Buster Keaton. Yeah. I was going to say Buster Douglas. Oh, that was a boxer who knocked out Tyson for the first time. Oh, yeah. Buster Keaton. They called him Buster. His thinking was Buster because they would throw him. You're done. You're over. No, we already knew it. Oh, you already knew that. We know where. We know where. We know where. David Blaine at the start. I love that. When I'm hearing it, I'm watching a Guillermo D'Oltoro movie. I want there to be a really cool show about juggler, carny type folks. I think it's a knee here. Well, I think you're thinking of that movie with Broadway. That Cooper did. Yeah, but like the uplifting version. Sure. Well, if anyone wants to do a movie about us, that'd be great. Well, first of all, when it becomes a job, does it affect how much you do it for fun? Yeah, there's this juggler's club, and it's once a week, and we have yet to go. Yeah. That makes sense. And then the other thing I was imagining is you could maybe also track and plot the natural ebbs and flows in a relationship by how much you two are juggling together. You could go like, man, we haven't juggled in the backyard in six months. That's a bad sign. When we don't have a show for a while, like if we take a break for some reason, like for the pandemic, it really felt like something was missing in our relationship, like this essential part of who we are as a couple and how we bond. We go out, we do this show, we put in all this hard work, we have to use a lot of teamwork and figuring things out together. Then we go out to dinner afterwards. We kind of have a date. It's this whole ritual. And that was missing in our life, but it really feels like we need to do a show together to reconnect. Yeah. Yeah, that. It's like sunny and share, but the good version. Yeah. It doesn't take all your money. Well, funny enough, right? The only thing they enjoyed doing together was working together. I know. Well, Allison, this was really heartwarming. I like Star Cross jugglers. Thanks for having me so much, you guys. This was a real pleasure. You're lucky in your storm. Snowball juggles. Yeah, we'll juggle some snowballs. That's great. All right, take care. Bye. Bye. Do you know that I was a clown? I know you had a clown class. Yeah. Is part of your training? Yeah, I was for my training. It was a clown class. Well, it was a semester. I was a whole semester. I can't remember. I think it was a part of my movement class, but I was really good at it. I think the French is part of their acting program are really into clown and mind work. And that would be real rough for me to get through. No, it's really fun. It is. And I mean, you know, Cometia del Arte, it's improv. Is this what Marcel Marcel was or whatever the famous clown's name? Maybe. Cometia is an improv troupe, and there's set characters that have tropes. Like this is the messy one or whatever. You go to Cometia shows and it was like the first time I saw improv. I didn't audition because I was scared. So what was telling us about this? A guest of ours was talking about Cometia. Yeah, it's cool. Are the seven dwarves, or do they represent the archetypes in Cometia? No, be respected. OK. OK. Anyway, it's cool. And I was a great clown. Uh-oh. Hmm. Oh, cookie boy. We got a cookie boy in the house. I had to represent. I am so pleased. Do you remember the whole debacle? I do. Jeremy, you're a man after Monica's heart. That's right. And so saying this is a meatcudestory, because this could probably be a meatcudestory. I can't even know. It could be. And I think this one might hit a little close to home for Monica. Oh, I can already tell from the racks. Other racks. Yeah. Yeah. So I am born and raised in Athens, Georgia. And story takes place just outside of Athens and what can do? Oh, my God. Well, have you had the strawberry cake? I have had the strawberry cake many times. So good. More of a white chocolate cheesecake fan myself, but the strawberry cake is phenomenal. Oh, I love this. This is great news today. Did you go to college there? Is it weird to go to college on your hometown? No, not at all. Monica and I were actually in school together at the same time. So I was at UGA in 2008 and 2009. Keith, oh my God. Do we have any classes? I don't think so. I was sports management, but I do often think to myself. I'm like, I wonder if she was ever beside me on the orbit bus and I just don't know it. I bet so. Or at one of the bars. Did you booty bump? Of course. How was it much of a booty bumper? Oh, you never went to a firehouse? I went to the bars. I had to fake ID, but it wasn't really my scene. I was more of a house party kind of guy. Okay. I love this. All right. Before we dive in, did you ever make your way over to walk in Ville and eat at Chicken Express? I don't think so. I'm really sad to say. I want to lie, but I'm not going to. Tell me about Chicken Express. All right. So Chicken Express is where the story, the meatcue, actually takes place. So I worked at Chicken Express, fast food restaurant, think Zack's these churches, KFC kind of thing. Try chicken, chicken fingers, chicken on the bone, old Nanyorks. So I worked at Chicken Express from the start of college through the end of college. My best friend and I kind of had this routine he and I worked together. So we had a routine where anytime cute girls would come through the drive-through, he was always stuck in the back cooking. I was up front taking orders. So we had man code that I would go back and tell him, hey, curb, we got a cute girl in the drive-through. Okay. So no like secret. Oh yeah, no they think code it. So we would go out and we would take the orders in person, which makes it kind of unique. So we would actually walk out, take the orders and come. And so I was able to kind of set the stage. Okay. November 2007, he and I were both working. It was kind of a quiet, slow night buildings for a customer to come through and I see as a BMW. And I was like, okay, Kirby likes girls in BMW. So I'm just stouted out. So walk out there and I'm like, yes, a good looking girl. So the bat signal's going up. Wait, can I just say really quick? What if you're like a grandma and you're in the drive-through and you like, you see that they went to your car and took the order and then you pull up and it's like, wait, where's this person? And it's like, oh, I guess I got to use this telecom. Oh, it happened all the time. Oh, sure. Like, why do you guys change your system? It's who knows, pointless, but anyway, I give him the code. He knows to dump out his drink cup so he can go over to the drive-through and fill it back up. So he checks her out, scouts her out. He was like, pretty good looking girl. I was like, yeah, I agree. And I said, you know what? I think I'm going to put my name in number on a napkin and I'm going to put it in her to go by. We're just going to see what happens. Wow, this is great. Now, really quick, I got a hunch. You were kind of maybe coming towards the end of your time at chicken express because you're rolling the dice, you might get fired. I wasn't really worried about it. The owner wasn't that hands-on, so, okay, okay. It was all college kids work in there. So we kind of had free reign to do whatever. Okay, great, great. Go to our office, I get a napkin sharpie. Just write Jeremy, my cell phone number on the napkin, throwing her box into them. Of course, the butterflies settle in. I'm like, man, as I'm walking up to the window, I'm like, please God, just don't let her open this at the window because that will be beyond demoralizing. So thankfully, she doesn't. She's kind of flirting a little bit. What I thought was flirting, it turns out she's just really kind and friendly. But I took it as such. I don't think anything's going to happen with this. Going with my night, but we get to the end of the night, I go get my cell phone out of our office, and I see I have a text message from a 912 area code, which I did not know at the time. Savannah, so my roommate at the time was working with me. I was like, hey, can you search 912, see who that is? So the text just said, sneaky sneaky. With an explanation for me. I like it. I like good start. I will be totally honest. In my mind, it was out of sight out of mind. I never expected to hear from her at this point. So I'm like, you know what, we're just gonna move on. So I have him look up the number. I see it's Savannah. I'm like, oh, maybe it's a prank call. Like, who knows what's going on here? So I send back and I said, who is this? Question mark. And she writes back, guess. I think it's one of my friends just messing with me. So I write back. I was like, I have no idea. She was like, well, you're gonna have to give me something. I go to pump gas. I'm heading back home. Get back in my truck. And there's another text that says, no guesses. Question mark. I was like, sorry, no clue whatsoever. You're getting annoyed. Yeah, absolutely. I really was. I'm about to block you. Right. So I send back and I was like, sorry, I have no clue. She said, so your name and number just so happened to make its way into my box tonight. I was like, oh my God. So I did the dreaded call after someone's texted. But I'm like, it's warranted at this point. So I have to apologize to this girl. Yes. So I get on the phone. We have a great conversation. We talked for probably 30, 45 minutes. I was like, look, I apologize. I never expected to hear from you. But really glad I did. I'd love to take you out on a date. This was Thursday the night before the Auburn Blackout. Oh shit. Wait, 2007. 2007, yeah. I was definitely there. Wait, you gotta let us know what you guys just said. No, no, no. It's a big deal. Okay, so. You heard Black out. Yeah. Everyone wore black and it was a night game. So the whole stadium was blacked out. And the players wore black jerseys, I believe. Correct. So they came out and rid jerseys, but they changed from Craig and the locker room. They came back out black. Oh, my God. You got me. I'm now really jealous. I was in there. It was a night game. So you tailgate it all day from like 6 a.m. Everyone was so wasted. Going back to my whole lack of boarding the night that we talked on the phone. She didn't bite me out. She was 21 at the time. I was 20. I did have a fake ID, but it was also a really good college football game on Thursday night. So I was like, let's do Sunday if you're free Sunday. So went to De Palmas for our first date. Love it. What's that? What's the vibe guys? Italian. It's been around for a long time. You blew like a week's worth of wages from Express Kitchen to take her there. Maybe too much. Yeah, that's a nice place. Calzones are not cheap. That's like if your parents come to town, you get there. Okay, great. Took her to Morbos lab after that to get some ice cream, got choked on my waffle comb, but she still agreed to do a second date. How do we explain why she was in town from Savannah? Is she going to UGA as well? She was. So we have a smaller community college in Watkinsville. It's kind of a feeder school in the UGA. Used to be a Gainesville State College now in North Georgia. So she and I were both in school in North Georgia at the time. I had already been accepted into UGA, but was not starting till January. Got it, got it, got it. One thing kind of led to another. We went on quite a few dates after that. It kind of started dating, hot and heavy. It probably mid-December. And then she is now my wife of almost 16 years and a half. We have two beautiful, 28 year old daughters together, Emerson and Henley. Oh, what a great story. Sometimes you just got to put yourself out there. You got to put your number in the box. To add to it, she was my first girlfriend too. Oh, I love this. She's an amazing person. She's actually the reason that I'm an armchair. Oh, I guess. One other thing to add to the story, this pretty cool. So the night that she plugged me in her phone, her roommate basically begged her to text me. She was on the verge of not texting. And she was like, I'm plugging him in your phone. So even if you don't text him tonight, you're going to do it at some point. But she put me in her phone as Jeremy Chicken Boy. And I am still to this day in her phone as Jeremy Chicken Boy. I got to give her a lot of credit because if I'm her and you put this napkin in my thing, and then my roommate says, you got to reach out. And then I reach out and the guy's like, what? Who does? My assumption would be this motherfucker puts a napkin in every girl's bag. He can't even keep straight, which one of the girls I am. I was asked about that several times with my coworkers. And I will go on record saying it was a one and done for you. I was meant to. Oh, man. It was. It's an honor to have you in the cookie brochure. I know. You're really is. I feel glee. You see around. She is not. And this is a surprise. So our friend group knows that I'm on here. She does not yet. Oh. So I'm assuming when this airs, we are going to be flying to Mexico. I'm assuming it'll air balance times weekend. So I am going to surprise her and let her listen to it on the way to the airport. Oh, wonderful. You guys are the best. She actually just tried to call me a second ago, so I think her ears were burning. But she will be a little upset that she wasn't here to listen to it. But I'm in a lovely tent of my own making it while Disney World right now. So she's not anywhere near by to say hello. You're clearly handy. It's structurally sound. What's her name? Candace. Candace shout out. I'm happy for both of you. Me too. This is a beautiful story. Way to put yourself out there. Both of you. I appreciate it. Is it okay if I give a couple quick shout out? Yes. We're going to Mexico with. We had four of us last year. We've grown to three couples this year. So six of us going down to our little Ohana as we call it, but also call ourselves the cool kids. All of the cool kids will be listening together at the same time and then shout out to Candace and my sweet girls Emerson and Henley obviously and my best boss for letting me come to Disney World for a few days during our busy season. So shout out to Amy as well. I'm incredible. God, you're surrounded by great gals. We love it. Well, thank you guys so much. I appreciate you all being a bright spot in everybody's day and bright spot in my day every day too. So thanks. Oh, thanks for having me. Take care. How are you? Pleasure. Hi. Oh my God. It's happy. You're like a mouse too. There's two mice in the house. Do you look like Minnie Mouse? Yeah. You're very cute. I would be so honored to be a mouse. I would love to be a mouse. Are you like six feet tall? I am five four, but I can be diminutive and be smaller. Oh, five four makes the cut. Anything under five five five five five four line, but anything under five five will count it. I love it. Should we do it like a mouse house? We need to think about some kind of merch for your crew. I love that. Yeah. Yeah. I would totally buy all those things. Where are you at Claire? Salt Lake City. Wow. Wow. Do you listen to the Elizabeth Smart episode? I loved it. And I was 11 when it happened. So it was such a pivotal story for me. And I was like, that's an option that someone can come grab you in your home. Did you ever see her on the street? Do you think? No, I did not. But nine months later, when it came out that she was just so close, it was so mind blowing, it was really crazy. And the fact that that bozo had been arrested and shit for stealing beer, the whole thing is impossible amount of that block. That block, yeah. It's so true. And she had such an amazing story. And I really loved your interview. So it was really awesome. Yeah, we did too. We did too. That was a very special one. Yeah. You grew up there and you didn't leave. Did you go to BYU? No, went to University of Utah. I went to some other places, but that's part of the meat queue. Oh. Let's hear it. Having set up probably the most exciting thing that happened in Salt Lake City was the Elizabeth Smart kidnapping. Growing up, I wouldn't call Salt Lake City an exotic local destination. Very tame. And so when I went to University of Utah, my best friend and I, we were like kind of cravings and adventure. We wanted some excitement. We wanted to really spread our wings. So we decided, let's go to Europe and let's ride the rails and just go to Hassels. So we get the big maps. We're making our routes. What age is this? 18. Oh, this is before you start college. So we start planning while we're in the dorm room and it's going to be the summer after our first year of college. We're saving up our money. It's like the day you might have every day in class. About six months before my best friend came to me and she said, I don't want to go. I don't want to. Not even I can't. I talked to her today and she was like, I don't think I saved any money. Oh, oh, oh. She wasn't a saving mouse. She didn't keep up her eyes. She wasn't a failure. I am devastated. I'm like, what am I going to do? It felt too overwhelming to go by myself and ride the rails. You may get sound like a hobo returning home for war. Ride the rails. Ride the rails. Ride the rails. Around that same time, my dad came across this brochure that it was a tour company and it was 18 to 35 year olds camping in Europe. And I'm like, this is perfect. I have some structure. This is what I'm going to do. I did not know it at the time, but this bus is affectionately called the fuck bus. Oh, wow, wow, really quick. Are you not Mormon? This seems like a trip that wouldn't normally happen. So I grew up Mormon, but I was friends with all non-Mormon people. So I kind of prided myself on being like, I can hang. This is fun. But I did not know it was called the fuck bus. Nor did your father probably more importantly. He did offer it, like take some condoms, but I'm like, no, no, no. Oh, wow, he's progressive. He was pretty progressive. I was still very sheltered. So I was like, that would never happen. Cut to the fuck bus. I know, cut to the fuck bus. So I, out of like 50 people, I am the only American girl. It's mostly Kiwis and Aussies on the tour. So I am like the exotic one. So Summer Cup is around. I fly to London and I am so stoked. And I am also so horny. Wow. You're pretty. You're right. You're bursting in his face. Why did you take the condoms? I was as horny as a 19 year old Mormon girl could be. There are things in the Utah Mormon culture called Nickmos, which stands for non-committed make out, which is the Mormon version of a one night stand. I'm like, I'm going to Nickmo all over the place. I am so excited. I get on the bus and I'm like, ready for my summer hookup. So I sit down and I just see all the talent coming down the aisles. And there's just like hot Aussies, hot Kiwis. And then there's this one guy, broad shoulders, green eyes, tan. Looks like he could surf. And I'm like, oh, Aussie. New Zealand. Okay. That's what I get for stereotyping, all right? And I'm like, I'm going to keep an eye on you. So something to know about campsites in Europe. It's how European middle class people travel. So it isn't like a campground like we think of. There's like a bar. There's a restaurant. There's a pool. And it's really close to the city. So we get to the first stop and all of the Kiwis and Aussies like head straight to the bar. Like I said, I'm trying to be cool. I'm trying to like show that I can hang. And Monica, I'm so sorry. I don't want to get you off side. But I totally leaned into the American girl thing and I lied and said I was a cheerleader. Oh, good for you. Okay. I understand. I actually find that flattering of all the appropriation that she would be tolerant of. That would be the way that's what I was doing. I was trying to be an American girl. So that's why I went into cheerleading. I need to like have something that is semi cool to these people because Mormon girl from Utah is not. What if they said prove it? Did you know any cheers? I feel like I could have pulled something out. You know, I can clap. You saw it bring it on. I also leaned into the other thing that I was pretty loose about at the time, which is my friends and I. We would go streaky and skinny to think. So I became Will Ferrell from old school. I'm like, let's go streaky. Let this all be so fun. I got to. You're shattering all my stereotypes of a Mormon girl. I'm really glad. I'm glad you're here. I'm like, hey, you know what these people for 30 days? Like I want to show them like I am not a wet blanket. So I think that put them a little bit at ease. I'm clear. I'm sure I was not very subtle. So we keep going. We're touring Europe. We go down to Monaco. It's the South of France and it's near the beach. So our campsite is right near the beach. And so I am like, this is my time to shine. So I'm like, guys, we are young. It's summer. We're in the South of France. Let's go skinny dipping. We're at the bar and everyone at the beginning of the night is like, yes, that sounds like a great plan. But as you know, enthusiasm starts to wane. People are like, it's cold outside. I don't want to walk far. But I have like kind of painted myself into a corner. You are the cheerleader of this mission. Yeah. I am a cheerleader. So I say, I'm going skinny dipping. Anyone want to come and only two people. And there are two dudes. I am like, oh no, I thought this would be like a group activity. I did not mean for this like to be a date. There is a South African guy. And then there is my tall, broad New Zealand. Oh, he's on board. OK. He's on board. They kind of look at each other and then one of them backs down the South African backs down. Oh, sure. Perfect. Suddenly it's just me and this cute New Zealand man. And I am half excited and scared. No man has ever seen me naked. Much less than man that I think is cute. Oh, you really? Wow. You wrote a check your ass. Yeah. Yeah. Is what happened? Yeah. Which sometimes works out. Yes, it does. Exactly right. So I'm like, well, too late now. We have to keep going. So we start making our way to the beach. On the way there, there is this carnival with a fairest wheeled up. And this man is just like laying on the charm. I didn't realize it at the time, but he is also slightly intoxicated. So he's like telling me he's David Hasselhoff's double. And I am just eating it up. And I'm like, you're so charming. The bar's so low at night. I know. Everyone's laughing. Thank God. She's lying. Everyone's rolling shit. So we kissed. I feel like I've died and gone to romcom heaven. I'm like, this is one of the best kisses I've ever had. And then he rolls me out and I'm like, oh, fuck. I have to get naked with this guy. We make our way closer to the beach. And I'm like, how am I going to navigate this? What am I going to do? And suddenly he starts sprinting away from me and starts taking off all of his clothes. And then I see his cute ass and then he just dives into the ocean. Oh, well, the study is a little dolphin or big dolphin. Yeah. So he turns around and he's got like this shit eating ground in his face. And he's like, all right, ready to skiddy dip. And I'm like, oh, no, no, no, no, no, this is not what we're doing. Oh boy. And he's like, well, you saw me naked. And I said, I saw a flash. And I said, OK, you can see a flash. So then I say turn around. And so then I get undressed. And then I say go. And then I jump into the ocean, like starfish. And then I pop back up. He goes, that was the best three seconds of my life. Oh, that's cute. And then he starts swinging towards me like to make out with me. I'm like, oh, no, no, no. I'm a skinny, deffinged, purist. We are just here to skiddy dip. Tartanavigate the situations when you're a boy. You're like, oh, no, I was going to kiss you and you said, I'm just skinny, I'm not getting that. I'm so aware of what do I do here. We're going to go in. We're going to go in. You're going to get falling your lead though, which I like. Yeah, so far in the story. It's so true. So yeah, we have this lovely moonlight skinny dip. And I can't really remember how we disembarked from this skinny dip. But that started my very, very sexy summer with more than nick mose started drinking cocktails. Wow. Oh, I want a time machine. I'm getting my time machine feeling. And then 19 years later and three kids were still with that guy. How did you make it all work when everyone went home? We had this hot summer. And then it was like, when can I see you again? And he had just finished his degree. So he's like, I could do a gap year in Salt Lake. So he moved here. What a, how did he do that as David Hasselhoffs? Well, he was doing a lot of work out there in Salt Lake. Now, look, no disrespect to Salt Lake. It's a wonderful place. My father and I live there for a minute. It's so beautiful. You're so close to so many great things. And if I'm coming from New Zealand to live in an American city, there's a few I might try before Salt Lake City. I totally agree. I was like, are you sure? And he's like, yeah, let's do this. So he lived here for a year. And then I lived in New Zealand for a year. And then we both lived in Australia for a couple of years. What city in New Zealand? Auckland. Oh, wonderful. And I do want to say, Dax, I want to defend you. They do put eggs on weird things. Thank you. So that's not the issue. The issue is soft boiled. No, poached. It's poached. I've always said it was poached. I don't even know what a soft boiled egg is. I never, never report one. I would know how to identify a soft boiled egg. But I know what a fuck up. I have one the other day. I have a very good, primarily poached, right? Yes. Lots of eggs everywhere. And also in Australia, lots of beets. So those are the two weird things. Well, and I actually have the lumberjack, sexy rugby guy over here if you want to see. Oh, yeah. I'm a horse. I do. He was the original arm cherry. Hello. Oh, this is crazy. Hey, nice to meet you. How are you? Good. Welcome to my closet. Still looking for that cheerleader uniform. Wow, that was such a lovely story. Turned out pretty well. Very happy with what happened. Div children. We do. We've got a three year old, five year old, and a seven year old. So we're in the thick of it. God bless. You. Oh, wow. I love this story. Thanks for being an arm cherry. Of course. I love what you do. Can I give a quick shout out? Yes. Of course. I'm going to shout out to Liz, Miss Friend Hill, who's also an arm cherry. And I think she would have killed Claire if she didn't get some sort of mention. What's her name? Hill? Hill. Yeah, like Hillary. Oh, Hillary. A lot of cute stuff happening. Oh, I love this. Well, the live meeting you, we love Claire. You got lucky. She's such a cute mouse. I did. She's the best. Oh, I love it. Thanks for chatting. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Oh, my God. Emily, you're floating in a void. I have this really terrible fort going on right now. So I just wanted to make sure you guys didn't see it. We always see terrible forts. In fact, do you think any of the forts we've seen have been nice? They're always blankets strewn over chairs. Well, ask and you shall receive. Oh, let's see. Let's see. Oh, it's like that. Yes. Come on with that. My daughter's Christmas blankets. I was going to say this is how we learn a little bit about you because clearly there's some children in the mix because that's way too cute of a blanket for an adult. And we know you're a perfectionist because you think that this is great. This is actually, we had a rank all the forts we've seen. This is in the top 10%. Great. Thank you. Where are you at? I am in Canton, Ohio. So during the snowpock ellipse we're currently having. Canton is that's Office 75 or no? 77. Okay. And how bad is it there? You got power, obviously. We have power, but we have about a foot of snow and I have kids home from school. They're supposed to be in the front air building the snowman and shit. Fucking ice skating on the sidewalk. Yes, maybe later, but it's negative two out. I think I'm cold. Negative two. Thank you, Candle. Thank you. I know that's child's play for us Midwesterners. Yeah. I'm so jealous of them of snow day. God, there's nothing more fun for them. Not me. Right? And you just got out of Christmas break in their home again. Yeah, psych. The joy of my life. So Emily, are you from Canton? Have you always been in Canton or did you move to Canton? No, I moved to Canton. I'll get into it a little bit at my story, but I'm originally from Appleton, Wisconsin area. So we're friends with the Michiganders for sure. Good stock up there in Wisconsin. Okay. So hit us with your meat cue. Yes. I am from Cacano, Wisconsin, originally a little town outside of Green Bay. Back in 1991, I was born the third of three daughters. My parents didn't know what they were having. In the delivery room, my mom naturally asked, is it a boy or a girl? And they said, we don't know. Oh, interesting. So come to later find out I was born with a birth defect called bladder extra fee. Oh, tell me about bladder extra fee. Yeah, lots of catheters. I thought you'd be interested when I was born. My bladder was on the outside. Wow. Oh, wow. Everything was outside so they couldn't determine if I was a male or female. Shortly after birth, I was transported to a children's hospital where they put it back in and stabilized me. And when you're four years old, maybe a little earlier, your parents are starting to think about potty training you and achieving continents. Something that with bladder extra fee kids is pretty tough. They're specialists out at Johns Hopkins in Maryland where my mom did a lot of research and that's where the best surgeon was. So we traveled out to Johns Hopkins when I was four years old and got ready for what's called a bladder neck reconstruction. So basically what that is is kids with extra fee, they're born, their hips are too wide. Oh. So what they do is they break your hips. Oh, boy, oh boy. Push them back together and then secure them with steel pins. So your bladder is supported and you're laying on your back for about eight weeks. You have to lay flat and your legs are in traction for a good amount of time. So they're up in the air above your body. In Baltimore, you know, I'm a four year old with my mom. I was in a wagon the majority of the time just laying flat in a Fisher Price wagon. My mom and I had to find some fun things to do. Our surgeon said, Hey, there's a mom and another little boy about her age here. He just got the same surgery a few days before her. Boys can have this as well. Yeah, girls and boys can have it. Boys have it a little bit tougher than girls just from a complication perspective. So we met these wonderful people, became friends, spend our eight weeks together when our separate ways I went back to Wisconsin. They went back to where they're from a couple years later before Facebook, social media. We get this phone book. So it's the association for bladder extra fee community. Like a directory? Yes. Parents have registered for this that, Hey, my kid has this. If you want to connect and share stories, share experiences, here's my phone number. So I look up their name and I say, Hey, mom, they're in this phone book. Can you reconnect with them? I'm too nervous to call. So my mom calls. How old were you at this point? Probably about 12 or 13. You're starting to think about boys. Oh, yeah, very boy crazy, very good for you. I like boy crazy. My mom and his mom reconnected and then I got his email address and his name screen name when that was really cool. And we would message back and forth and then come to find out I was a freshman in high school. He was in eighth grade. I like to call myself a cooler because I'm a little cool. Yeah, good for you. His mom called and said, Hey, he's not doing well. His name is Cameron. His bladder perforated. Just want to let you know he could use some wall wishes. So long story short, he recovered, but it was a long recovery process. So I finally said to my mom, Hey, I want to go out and see him. I haven't seen him since I've been four years old. Oh, my God. And where did they live? They lived in Ohio. Okay. We reunited. I was a freshman. He was in eighth grade and we became boyfriend and girlfriend shortly after. Oh, my God. Good. And you've been together ever since. Yeah, 2006. We started dating. We got engaged in 2012. You've been together 20 years. Yeah. Wow. That's so sweet. And you know each other's and you were four. Oh, my Lord. This is the earliest meek. We've never had a meek. You were four year olds, Matt. Oh, man. I love this story. Me too. Now, can I ask a really hard question? Sure. Which is if I had gone through all of this stuff and I know the challenge of it and then my partner has gone through it. My thought is wow, genetically maybe we're pretty much guaranteed for our children to have to go through it. Was that in the mix of consideration with children? Absolutely. So we got married in 2015 and then shortly after I started thinking about having babies and had a lot of conversations around genetics and just we wanted to be responsible about it and you know, not cause anyone paying because we've been through it. We also thought, hey, who better to take care of a child that has this than two people who have been through it? You're there valuing your own life and you're like, yeah, that was a challenge. But I like my life. I'm glad I'm here. The amount of times I think that I have it throughout the day is next to zero. So truly it's not very impactful to my life now. But we were concerned about it. Had a lot of specialist conversations and got pregnant with our first baby in 2016 and happy to report she did not have it. Oh, did you have so much relief? Yeah. I have scans a lot and they were finally able to visualize the bladder filling up and emptying and that was the sign that the bladder was inside working properly. And then I had another successful pregnancy in 2021. So we have two little girls. Yay. They're the best. Oh. What a great story. I love it. I'm a little teary eyed from that. And everyone is doing well. You and your husband doing well. It's so unimpactful to our day to day. And I just think that's so important with anything. You know, you're stamped with a diagnosis and some people they put it right on their name tag when they introduce themselves. I don't care for that. I think it's just so important to live your life and that's part of who I am but it's not who I am. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. We both live our lives very similarly like that and teacher girls the same kind of morals. So we have photos. Oh, there's the happy family. Family. They're still green babe fans. Oh, my cute. Oh, look how cute this is with him. I'm talking about his fist in the air kissing you on your wedding day. That's so cute. Oh, no. You are so fucking cute. Emily, I can't believe it. Look at these little kids. Oh, my God. Oh, no, you're ready to see him. I'll get that age. Oh, is this framed in your house? Is better be framed in your house? Yes, they are all framed and they actually the wedding one is right behind me. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, four years old. So many. This is the art warmer of the century. Maybe I should go back and think about who I knew when I was four. Yeah, why not? I mean, why not the net a little bit? Yeah, why not? Thank you for sharing that beautiful story. Wow, knowing your age is known there, husband. I mean, it's just so rare. Yeah, it's rare. Yeah, it's cool. I like this story. It's pretty cool. I tried not to get to the punchline too soon. No, you did a very good job. Oh, my, she better not meet his friend on this trip to visit him. Oh, that was a good twist. That's an app and you could like meet his best friend. That would be a big twist, but that would be really sad. Well, thank you so much for chatting with us. Yeah, that was lovely. Thanks, guys. It was great to me. You, I appreciate everything you do. Our pleasure. And I hope you get through this snow day alive. We'll try our best. Okay, take care. Oh, I love them. Oh, yeah. They're really heartwarming. I don't know if I can do this show anymore. Because I'm just crying so regularly. You cry a lot. I know it's like getting completely untenable. And I'm like, I wouldn't want to watch a show where the fucking host couldn't go five minutes with them. Well, they can't see you in this one at least. That's helpful. Yes, yeah. You really opened a valve? Yes. Well, there was so much back pressure. More and out. I think it's lovely. I do. I do. Sometimes I feel like I'm going to be like, I'm going to be like, I'm going to be like, I'm going to be like, I'm going to be like, I'm going to be like, I'm going to be like, I'm going to be like, I'm going to be like, I'm going to be like, I'm going to be like, I'm going to make a possibility that I make a possibility that I make a possibility that I do, I do, it's very cute. What's the don't play? It's good to have feelings. Exactly. What's the problem? I mean dehydration. Gotta make sure you're getting your electrolytes. Luckily a hydrate compulsively, so that's pretty good. Then it's all fine. Alright, I'll keep crying. Hey, what's up, Wayne Sunglasses during the interview. Okay, love you. Do you want to sing a tune or something? I'm gonna go with the tune. Okay, great. We don't have a thing. So, for this new show, so here I go, go, go. We're gonna add some random questions in with the help of our cherries, bookets and suggestions. On the flyer, Ryan Dish. On the flyer, Ryan Dish. Enjoy.