Is Felgren-Maz your favorite afternoon show? Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes! Oh, Felgren-Maz, M-Maz. With your attack on the death of Kupedirian to Sam Frad, and that you're still a free agent, adding depth to that position, helping her priority. What's up? Team, what? We have to, the league has to develop offensive linemen. We have to, we, you know, it's a critical important position for the game to protect our quarterbacks that are so valuable to this league. So, whether we draft them, whether we sign them, whatever we do, we have to be able to continue to develop offensive linemen to be able to protect our quarterback in such a critical position. So, however we can continue to do that, I want to do that. How are you doing, Parthi? Good, how are we doing, guys? Just peachy. We'll do a three-up, three-down with Parthi. We have three draft prospects that are rising on his board, three who are dropping on his board later on this hour. We'll do ten questions next hour, and we'll take your calls on anything football-related. And you can still, again, weigh in on the Red Sox or Bruins, by all means. But your football calls come in at 617-779-0985. That answer by Mike Rabel I found interesting on a couple different levels. One, it, they clearly, they, the pagers have been saying this now for over a year, over a year, because I've heard local Patriots beat writers give this take. Maybe even you, Parthi, but I know that I've heard like guys like Phil Perry, if not exactly Phil Perry, guys like Phil Perry or Badard or Andrew Callahan or whoever, say things along the line of, as we were looking at Will Campbell, it was always in the context of Will Campbell. This doesn't feel like the fourth overall pick, like this guy's not, I'm used to the fourth overall pick at Tackle being Jonathan Ogden, not Will Campbell with his little arms and, and the answer we would get from the beat guys was, huh, there's no Tackles in college period, no one's developing Tackles anymore. They're not coming out of the college ranks. So where do you go? Like Will Campbell is the top rated Tackle, but that's the state of the position now. Right, there was a lot of that last year. So where, where are we getting that from? The Patriots. Well, I've been saying that for years for what it's worth. I said that well before. Have you? Yeah, this has been a problem probably going back a decade. It is? Especially at Tackle. Really? Yeah. Yeah. The Tackle play in the league over the last decade has started to fall off. There's just not as many bodies. I'm already starting to yell at Barthia. Yeah, right. It's almost like an instinct. I feel that's a cop out. You know, well, what do you want us to do? There's no Tackles. No, no, we'll find a Tackle. Well, that's why this answer to me is notable. And that's why I included it. And that's why it stood out to me. The teams that can develop offensive linemen that know how to teach the position, the way it's not being taught at the college level, have such a major advantage when it comes to roster building, because you don't have to take a guy who maybe isn't a traditional fourth overall pick, fourth overall. The Eagles, when they won the Super Bowl in 2024, only two of their offensive linemen were first round picks, and one of them was picked over a decade ago. So they have an ability they've had, and that's why when they fired their offensive line coach last year was so controversial. They've had an ability to develop offensive linemen, and it's given them so much flexibility in building their roster and the way they can call plays. There are teams that struggle to develop offensive linemen for long periods of time. It's a major advantage for the teams that can do it, and the teams that are able to do it are becoming fewer and fewer. Fine. You're telling me there's none at the draft? Not none, but not enough. There's a couple. How's Joe Alt? Joe Alt's good. How's, and I'm asking this now, so I know Alt's good. Yeah. Is Froshano any good with the Jets? He's been good. He has been good. I thought, yeah. Thought so. I'm not, you know, not sure. I'm not, you know, up on my O-line play like some of you. What about Slater with the Chargers? It's been fine. Spine? Wasn't he, I think, one of the best tackles in the league? What the hell's wrong with you, Bart? Oh, Rashon, I was thinking of Jamari Slater. Yes, Rashon Slater's been very good. He's a guy that has, I was thinking of the Semmelig. Why are you asking me about a center that went into fourth round? Oh. But the thing about Rashon Slater, this goes back to O'Cable. He was viewed as a maybe tackle, maybe guard. How's Penisoul? Because he had shorter arms. Penisoul's excellent. Seventh overall in 2021. I'm just saying, like, I don't know. I feel it's a little bit of a cop out when he's asked about, you know, tackle and the importance of it. And his answer is the league has to develop offensive linemen. It's like he's washing his hands of, no, no, find the guys, develop the guys to your point. Yeah. And I don't want to hear that it's, the league is having a problem developing the guys or you're blaming college football. No, no, no, no, no, no. We find good offensive linemen. So Slater is the perfect example of this because Slater's arms are exactly 33 inches. Some people thought he'd be a guard. Some people said if he's a tackle, he shouldn't go in the first round. But because if there's a guy that you think can play it, he went higher than he was expected or then a lot of people thought he should go because this guy has a chance to be a tackle. We've got to get him in credit to them. They did a good job with developing them. Okay. This, this will be it for our tackle talk. You think right tackles on the board in the first round? Definitely. Why? 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Who do you like there? I like Blake Miller from Clemson and Max E Haunichor from Arizona State in that order. Let me get my pen real quick. Give me that second name again, please. Max E Haunichor. This is the guy that Ravel was. This is the guy from the world. Oh, I got. I'll we'll have more on that coming up. Okay. Arizona Arizona State. Arizona State. I think I do. Why do you like him? E Haunichor. Whoever the those two guys Miller really experienced 54 starts in college 52 to it right tackle athlete has the length fundamentally sound. He seems I'm surprised people are projecting him to be on the board of 31. I think he should go higher. He's a pretty complete prospect at this point. E Haunichor is a lot more raw. He was late to football didn't start playing it until college played five years in college to a Juco three at Arizona State. But he's really big, great play strength, great athleticism. The thing that pops out to me where I go from the second round to the first round with him against Texas Tech, who has two Edge rushers who are going to go in the top 100. One who's going to go in the top five. He was awesome in that game against both of them. That shows you the ceiling. He has the athleticism. He has the strength. He has the size to hang with NFL caliber rushers. It's just about showing up his technique in particular as footwork. Okay. Why are you smirking mess because I remember this kid from watching ASU games. He's a house. He's a freaking house. He's gigantic. Am I talking about the same guy? The right tackle. He's big. I you might be there left tackle to remember his size for Arizona State. And I remember thinking, this guy is a freaking building out there like almost too fat. Go ahead. 6 6 3 21 34 inch arms. So as I just go back to the, you know, Vables asked about them drafting a tackle and he says the league has to develop offensive linemen. You know what that's also an admission of? That's the answer to, you know, Will Campbell kind of sucks. You know, it's a defense mechanism against you drafted that guy fourth overall. The answer is, well, hey, listen, they just could we look at the guys coming out of college known. The league has to develop offensive linemen. He's passing the buck on will Campbell or whatever problems they've had or might have on the offensive line. They're all imperfect. Coming out is what he's saying, but it's also a tacit admission of, well, what do you want us to do? You know, will Campbell really? That's a fourth. Penny Sewell goes seven. Joe Walt goes four and you come home with this will Campbell with the little arms. Hey, what do you want us to do? There was no Jamar Chase in this class. Huh? Jamar Chase was in Penny Sewell's class. That was the big debate that year. I'm just saying for example, they don't get to in the weeds with the facts. Joe, Joe Walt was fifth. Penny Sewell was seventh. Will Campbell was fourth in a much lesser draft. That's not Ray Bills answer. Ray Bills. Ray Bills answer is the league. Hey, the league, what do you want us to do? They're not producing offensive linemen. He did give another answer earlier where he was asked about just general draft philosophy as it relates to free agency. He said, quote, I don't think you should ever draft for need. That's not a position you ever want to be in. So that'd be the counter of it. They believe, you know, according to that logic, they believe will Campbell was not a need pick, but you know, what do you think? What do you think? I think it's both. I think one of the best players. He was one of the best players on the board at a position. What a best player on the board was Ash and Gentie. Like if we're just rating them on a scale of one to 100. So they want need. But I don't know. I don't think it should be genti. They need a receiver to they could have taken McMillan's a need pick. They all do it. They all lie. They all lie and say you don't draft for need because that's you know, that's when you get into trouble. And it's you know, you don't want to be in that position because it drafting for need would imply that you're, you're just stupid. You just need something. So you pick it. You're not even using your head. Yeah. Like any eight year old could put a square peg in a square hole. You know what I mean? So they all want to act like they're smarter than that. So no one admits to drafting for need. And they all draft for need. Don't buy it. Barthi, I think it's drafting the best player available at a position at a premium position is what it comes down to. Because the flip. So I think best player available is a fallacy because there's running backs and kickers and punters that are better at their position than these tackles and edge rushers, but teams don't take them on the flip side. If you draft purely for need, that's how you end up with Cole Strange in the first round. Like that was a pure need pick. The real answer lies somewhere in the middle. And again, I think especially in the first round, it's best player at a premium position. Pure need pick is how you end up with Will Campbell at number four. Sorry, they just did it and they're going to do it again. But they needed a receiver just as much. So they could have taken McMillan. So most teams, most teams do it. They did it last year. They'll do it again. You think receiver was a bigger need last year than tackle as much of a need. I think tackle was worse. Tackle was clearly their number one need. Tackle has been a need for like five years for crying out that is ridiculous. Morph. You want to yell Barthi out there? 6177709, 0985 some interesting insight into the Patriots receiver situation from Vrable yesterday as well. We'll get to that right after this. Joe Haggerty here between the car, the ranks, two kids in hockey and covering hockey myself. My schedule is absolute chaos. But a few weeks into Awakened 180, I'm down 20 pounds. Awakened180weightloss.com. From startups to scale ups online in person and on the go. Shopify is made for entrepreneurs like you. Sign up for your $1 a month trial at Shopify.com slash setup. Um, and I don't know how that gets divvy. I mean, it's literally about targets and, you know, so when you get targeted and again, the efficiency, I really, we all appreciate what Steph did and being able to coach him. But you know, what has to happen is the efficiency in which he was able to catch the ball was was impressive. Whether that strikes accuracy, ball location or Steph's ability to, to catch it. That's something that we'll have to recreate. And I'm not worried about the catches and the overall production. I think we can recreate that. We just have to be very mindful that the efficiency in which we throw and catch it is important. Found that an interesting answer, Mas. You too. Why? Because it talks about the efficiency, you know, the efficiency with which step days are. Let me use a different word. Reliability of Stefan Diggs. We had that stat early in the year. Do you remember that? You know, Stefan Diggs among receivers with we change it every week, but 30 catches, 40 catches as the season was on the completion percentage. When they threw to digs and the number was up near 80% for the season. And he was one of the guys that was the best in the league at it at the wide receiver position. What Drabel's getting at is what can you count on 80% of the time? What can you count on on third and six, third and seven? When you have to go somewhere for a catch, where are you most efficient and effective at it? And Diggs was the answer. He was the best option they always had on third down. Now look, he might get tackled short of the sticks or at least in the playoffs. He had more difficulty, but he was their most reliable guy over and over and over again. So they need to he's right. They need to recreate that go to guy. Yes, absolutely. That's exactly what it is. It's a go to guy where you can say if we throw to him 100 times, we're going to complete 85 of them because our quarterback is synced up with him. He's got great hands and works and he can get open. Do they have a go to guy, Alex Barth? I think they hope it's Romeo Dobbs. I got to see for sure. It's going to be tough to replace that. It really is because there are other guys, Kayshaun Booty, big play guy, not a volume receiver, Mack Holland's not a volume receiver, Pop Douglas, not a volume receiver. Dobbs kind of was as much as you can be in that Green Bay offense career high, I think 75 catches. So that's 25 short of where Diggs was about 25 short. You pay a guy like that at his age, you're paying for projection, you're expecting him to do more than he did at the start of his career. But short of him, no, I don't know if they have that guy. They're putting a lot of eggs in the Romeo Dobbs basket. I'll tell you. So I'm looking at his efficiency. I don't know how you would necessarily judge it, but I would, you know, receptions versus targets. Sure. Like for example, how many catches did Steph Diggs have on how many targets? Do you have that in front of you? I can get it for you in a second. Yeah, 102 targets. He had 85 catches. Okay, so his catch percentage was 85 83.3. Right. Okay. So right around 83%. Yeah. And that was that was highest in the league among all wide receivers. Okay. So like that's as good as it gets. Okay. I don't know what a good percentage is. So last year, I just looked this up quickly with Dobbs. He had 55 catches on 85 targets. Too low. It feels low. Yeah, five out of eight is 63%. The year before it was 46 catches on 72 targets. Also a little low. So I feel like just watching it, eyeballing it, it would have been higher than that, but it wasn't. I mean, you just don't appreciate how money the made of Diggs connection was. And if they're expecting that from Dobbs, well, he's not. He didn't really do that in Green Bay. I would have thought he did, but he didn't. He's not that they used him more vertically than I think the Patriots are going to. So roles may be a part of that. I can find the number. I'm curious what it would be within, you know, 20 yards of the line of scrimmage. If you take out some of the deep targets, because there's probably going to be less of those, but it's a projection. It's absolutely a projection. It's not a proven commodity. 6177790985. Stephen Charlestown for Alex Barth. Go ahead, Stephen. Hey, I'll do my best to be quick, but, but I so badly want the Patriots to adopt the LA Rams approach where they just trade their draft picks. I mean, every time they have a hole in their squad, they just trade a draft pick for a guy that they know can play. I think over the last nine years, the Rams have had one first round draft pick. They're in the NFC championship every year. If they don't trade their first round pick this year and they take a tackle, I'm going to be pissed. Thanks. Okay. Well, part of the reason that works there too, sorry to cut you off, is that they also hit on some of those other picks in later rounds, but that's not even the first takeaway. The first takeaway, you know why they do that? Because the owner is okay spending money. The owner is okay. Yeah, taking on a big contract. Swapping out a rookie contract for an expensive veteran contract. It starts with ownership's willingness to spend money. Yeah, the only first round pick that they've had the last 10 years is versus the defensive. So it helps that they've hit on them and they draft Pukinakua in the right when you're getting Pukinakua in the fifth round, it's a lot easier to trade your first. It is, but the owner has to be willing to say we'll pay Trent McDuffie exactly right as opposed to we'll pay Trent McDuffie the highest average annual value for a corner in NFL history as opposed to a rookie contract. So it starts with Cronky and ownership. I don't think this ownership is as willing to do that. So I don't think they'll ever be that team caller. I'm sorry, they're not that team. No, they well, look, there are not many teams are when it comes to give it up nine out of 10 first round picks. So that's sort of extreme. But but even so the large majority of owners wouldn't spend it. It might just quickly I checked on Romeo dubs his whole career. Yeah, 63% catch percentage. And it's been pretty much that number every year. Yeah, if you look eyeballing it looks that way. I thought he would have been a more reliable possession guy. And he's just he hasn't been so I pulled from last year when you take out the deep targets 20 plus yards down the field at 71%. So that's a pretty good number. We'll see if they run him deep as much as they did in Green Bay. Boy, it's crazy how fine you can hone those numbers there. And a snap of a finger. It's unreal. It's crazy. It is. And look, I can give you his year by year 62.7 61.5 63.9 64.7. So give me can you so wait a minute, you just said dubs was actually 71% taking out deep targets. The same thing with digs. Okay, it's gonna take me a second. But Jesus, we're gonna be doing that sooner. digs was I have to actually add it up. Six for six behind line of scrimmage 100% 88% from zero to nine yards 67% from 10 to 19 yards 70% on 20 plus. Okay, but I bet how many attempts it's actually kind of similar to oh, all right. Okay, because I was gonna say they didn't throw down the field the digs very much nine for 13 down the field to digs. All right, better than 10% of his targets. Dobbs was I just had about 13 downfield. Oh, no, 19% downfield. So they I it's really important for I it's more important for a young quarterback to have that guy versus the number one option, you know, just a security blanket, third and seven. Who's your money guy? Who can you rely on? And they had it last year for much of it with digs till the very end. And that's what they have to replace not necessarily the 85 catches or the 1000 yards. It's third and seven, the sure thing the third and seven sure thing digs was 84% inside of 20 yards. And so he was money digs was 84% inside of 20 yards. Dobbs was 71% still lacking there. I don't look they're not going to get to where digs was he is one of the most if not the most like technically refined receiver in the league. And that's what correlates to this number. They're going to have to close that gap elsewhere. You hope you get close. I'd be very surprised if they actually get to that number again. Mike just quickly the other thing too is part of that Jordan Love is part of that the offensive coordinator. Like, you know, can he get open against coverage? What is it that well, I mean, love is so that's the projection you're paying. Right, right. Love is accurate, but not as accurate as Drake may. I mean, for sure. A few guys are Drake mays, one more accurate passers in the league. I mean, so continue with your calls and we do three up three down on draft prospects with Barth right after this after this being Jim Murray's headlines. Joe Haggerty here between the car, the ranks, two kids in hockey and covering hockey myself. My schedule is absolute chaos. But a few weeks into Awakened 180, I'm down 20 pounds. Awakened 180 weight loss.com. Hey, what are you doing? What are you doing with great bid? I'm from Boston Sports Journal dot com three up. Oh my God. Three down smelly on Velderman mass on 98 five. The sports home. We're doing a bar the park stint today. So we'll stick to the rough big boy format. Three up three down. We'll do 10 questions around the league next hour, but we'll do this on draft prospects, risers and fallers on the Alex Barth Patriots big board. Get your pens out. Yeah, I abstained from this because I couldn't tell you. I was looking forward to hear who mass liked. No, no, we're just going to pick your own answers. So the number one riser for the Patriots and this can be that first round pick. It can be anywhere on the draft. Someone you just think fits wherever here in this selection process for the Patriots in the draft who's rising on the Alex Barth big board and why I'm going to start off with Gabe Ackis from Illinois. He's an edge rusher. You got him Murray. I'm a big Ackis guy. Love a big Ackis. So it's spelled J A C A S and he plays like one. He is a mean SOB wrestling background. You see it. Big physical rusher knows what to do when when he gets to the football three, fours fumbles in each of the last two years. The word they keep using for their defense since rabble God here has been violence. He is one of the most violent players in this draft. It pops off the tape. What's his name? Gabe Ackis. J Ackis. Where do you project him going? So I he's like the sleeper for me at 31. He's probably a second round pick. I don't think he gets to 63. He'd be more of a trade up scenario. But if I think he's just such a fit for them. If they took him at 31 and maybe some of the edge rushers were talking about for them go higher than expected. It would totally surprise. Edge rushers like who a key Mezador Zion young cash is howl. That's kind of the consent. There's one more. Parker from Clemson. T. J. Parker from Clemson. Who do you like in that group? Yeah, guys, you got all that. Number two riser on the Patriots board. Number two riser. Demetrius crown over from Texas A&M. You got this guy. No, no, no crown over. Why have a crown when you can have a crown over crown royal? He's a right tackle. So the way this tackle class works, there's Blake Miller and Maxi Honitore. We talked about earlier who are projected late first maybe on a tour slips to the very top of the second round on the consensus boards. The next tackle is at 96. So that is a 60 player gap. What do you mean by consensus boards? There's this website that's like the dark weather. Go ahead. They put together all the mock drafts from all the different experts and kind of build a consensus and for the people who go back and grade these things after the draft, it's generally the most reliable, the most predictive. I could have figured that out. I just wanted to hear you. So I use that as kind of a guide and I don't think it's going to be this way because this is my point. We're not going 60 picks without a tackle. There's no way we're going 60 picks without leaving the Patriots. The league, the league, the league is, you're saying there might be no tackles taken in the first round. That's what the consensus is. Is there's guys graded late first, maybe very early second, and then the next guy is graded like fringe top 100. Wow. So I don't think it bears out that way because we talked about this earlier. Is there shortage of tackles? Dames draft for need. And someone's going to jump on a tackle before you get to 31. So if they don't take the tackle at the top, who's on the other side of the gap? Crown over. Demetrius Crown over who looks like a Josh McDaniels Patriots right tackle. Big, long, what powerful run block. What so that's a Josh McDaniels right tackle. Yeah. A big, long, powerful run blocker. Yeah. Who's your third rise? I would take Crown over. Old but Jackass. 36 inch arms, by the way. Huh? 36 inch arms. Oh, 36 inch arms. Yeah. 36 inch arms. Oh, no. Like what are we doing? We're boss. Lucky charm. What are charms? Those stickers they put on their helmets. 36 inch arms. Got it. Big dude. Third riser. Jaco Thomas Miami. He's a safety. This is more of a my guy thing. Day three pick. Two things that I really like that he does both of great on ball production. Five interceptions, six pass breakups last year. He gets to the football he makes plays on the football. They need playmakers on defense, not just guys that stop the offense from doing things, but force turnovers, force chaos on the on the offense. Force chaos. The other thing he does massive hitter, big old school hitter. There's a great clip of him before one of the bowl games talking about how he thinks it's a lost start hitting in the NFL. He knows that if he hits a guy enough, the guy will fold and that's what he likes about the position. There's some there's a couple plays if you go watch him on tape where the wide receivers are like visibly afraid of him. Cornell Tate was going to be a top 10 pick. There's one play where he runs a slant, sees Thomas and kind of just pulls up. Now there's an aggressiveness that goes both ways. He gets burned at times that's coachable, but he does get burned. But the raw makeup, his ability to get to the football and deliver big hits. I mean, what more can you want from a safety, especially as a third safety where you're not going to play him 90% of the time. He's going to be more of a situational player. We're going to draft a third safety. Well, this is like a day three pick. Okay, is he fast? No, no, well that blows. I think he ran like a four or five at the combine. I can pull it up. It wasn't. Unbelieveably slow, but he's not a burner. So he'll hit the crap out of you, but he can't catch you. So he's exactly really on the tackle. He ran a, I don't know. He didn't run 40. Okay. Three down. Who are the three guys who've been linked to the Patriots who you are down on? So you mentioned link to the Patriots. I kind of focused in on that. Number one, Eli Stowers tight end from Vanderbilt. He's projected as the second tight end off the board going to be in range of that 63rd pick. He's a pretty good receiver. You know, he can go out, he can catch the ball, big catch radius, good after the catch. Why are you down on him? There's really no physicality in his game. He's not a good contested catch guy. And when it comes to the blocking, he's a converted quarterback. He played quarterback. They're going to take her. He blocks like a quarterback. So everything you're saying about this is a Patriot wide receiver. They're going to take in the draft. Well, but he's tight end. He blocks like a quarterback. There's not much blocking there from him. Like he is, he, I think he's listed as a tight X. He's 240 pounds. If he was 220, they might just call him a big slot receiver. 6 4 2 39 and soft and right. Exactly. No thanks. See you later. Vanderbilt Vanderbilt out transferred from was it New Mexico or New Mexico State? One of those two. I'd rather have Jack has your number two follower on the Alex Barth big board. Our Mason Thomas. Who are Mason Thomas? Like an author. What about your Mason? His mom wanted to name a Mason, but everybody in his family has an R at the start of the name. It's like Richard or whatever. So she just threw an R at the beginning and then Mason Thomas. It's not our period. It's our apostrophe. It's just our our Mason Thomas. No punctuation. No punctuation. Just our Mason. I am now a Tony man. So it's not our and then his last name is Mason Thomas. It's our Mason's our Mason Thomas. Go ahead. What position? Edge rusher. Okay. Why don't you like him? Pure speed rusher. I think he is just a guy that's going to play on third downs. Good one trick, but just kind of one trick getting in the quarterback little undersized for guy that can do that. He's supposed to be a top 50 pick. I get maybe wanting to add like a specific third down rusher. There's guys later in the draft. Romelo height from Texas Tech that I think are closer to him without having to take him nearly as high. Who else like that? What's up? Who else like that? Army. Uh, the uh, even even for you, there are too many names. Romelo height. You got to me there. Romelo Heights. The big one. George Gums from Florida would be another guy like that. But I just see this is draft talk. It's four million names. But go ahead for what you're getting from just a pure speed rush. You can get that guy later to take him in the top 50 and he's undersized. It just feels a little high for me. James Gump put the lotion in the basket. He's got Gums. Third, faller on the Alex Barth Patriots big board, please. Offensive tackle Isaiah world from Oregon. Mass. Okay. So tell me how big he is. I want to know that size of the world. He is to pull him up. Uh, he is, I know he's a bigger guy. Love tackle. Right tackle. So we can play both. Oh yeah. Sure. He can. According to you, you can play neither. 683 18. It's not so much the ability with him. So he transferred from Nevada three years there. One year at Oregon was fine, had some trouble with penalties, but then he tore his ACL in the college football playoff. So you're talking about a guy that's got to come back from that injury, still needed development. It's another one where there's other tackles on the board. He's expected to go in that range with some of the guys you just talked about. Crown over, uh, Markel Bell from Miami, Jude Bowery from Boston College. They're all project players. I don't know why you would take the project player who's also rehabbing from a torn ACL. If they end up missing on the run and he's the last tackle there, fine, you take them. It's better than not taking a tackle, but I find it being put in that group. I don't think he belongs in that group. You should be further down. You were on with Zo and beetle the other day and I was yelling at my radio because they asked you AJ Brown or KC Concepcion, the wide receiver that's going to come after that to Texas A&M. And you said, Concepcion, don't you want the known commodity? In fact, AJ Brown, that was the one guy said I'd have to think about any of the other ones. Denzel Boston, give me AJ Brown. Omar Cooper, give me AJ Brown. I really like Concepcion's game. You want to talk about being a reliable receiver, getting open. I don't want to say hi, catch percentage because he has some drop issues. That's why he's going to go at the end of the first round. But like he, that guy gets open, gets separation, pulls away after the catch. He's everything that succeeds in the Josh McDonald's offense, but you're right at the end of the day. I did go back to give me the proven commodity. Give me AJ Brown. You mean pulls away after the attempted catch? Fair enough. But he's the only guy I'd even like would make me think in terms of AJ Brown or this guy. I hope you all wrote all that down. I did. I wrote the names down. We still like Jack. I saw you guys might like that one. Thoughts with Barth. You want to weigh in on the socks or the Bruins? By all means, you're still welcome. 6177709, 0985. Long commercial free segment is neck. Joe Haggerty here. If you were designing the perfect way to blow up a weight loss plan, my schedule would be a pretty good place to start. I'm in the car all the time running to ranks, juggling two kids in hockey, covering hockey myself. And half the time the day changes on me before it's even lunch. A few weeks into Awaken 180, I'm down 20 pounds. That's real weight, real fast. And the only reason this is working is because I'm not trying to figure it out on the fly anymore. Crazy thing is I'd probably be down 30 pounds, but had a couple slip ups early because of my hectic schedule. Big mistake. 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Talked about him just improving his play strength and, you know, that's something that he's tried to focus on here in the off season. We know what his speed is and his release skills and, you know, the ability to, you know, we saw him go and track the ball down the field. So, you know, there's a lot of guys that we're excited about. Greg Bedard's column on Boston Sports Journal in, but in the last day or two, coming off of Mike Vrable yesterday at the owner's meetings and he basically printed the Vrable transcript. Every question, question and answer and then gave you some nugget sort of thoughts. And one of the nugget thoughts that he had in there was that Christian Barmore is not going anywhere. Michael Wenu is very likely on the roster as well. And then I went back and read the full, and I listened to the full Vrable thing that they broadcasted on NBC Sports Boston the other day. I watched the whole thing in its entirety. And I don't remember him saying anything about Barmore or Wenu or the room, the, you know, he was asked about the receiver room and the groups at different positions, but, and then I went back and read the transcript. I mean, like, is Greg getting that from what Vrable said yesterday? Because I didn't really hear anything that would give you that inclination, even if you're reading into things and where'd that come from? So I don't know. Maybe that came from elsewhere and he just inserted it there. But if that's the case, if Christian Barmore is not going anywhere, and Michael Wenu is very likely on the roster as well, that to me informs us on AJ Brown and maybe more importantly, Christian Gonzalez. And I say this because and Badard has reported this a lot and he's right. It's not the cap, it's the cash. And Robert Kraft has said on the record that he wants to, you can spend over the cap, he tells his coaches, you can go over the cap in any given year, but over a three year period, he wants it to be at the cap, even though the league allows you to go over their internal budget for their profit margins, keeps their internal money budget at the cap. So over a three year period, you have to smooth it out to equal what the cap would be over a three year period. With Barmore and Wenu on the roster, they're pretty much at that three year limit. They're pretty much there. And I always thought, Barthie, that if AJ Brown is in, Barmore or Wenu has to be gone. Like that's an easy sort of swap. Wenu particularly. Is he's like 20 million, isn't he? Yeah, something like that. I don't know if it's quite that high, but it's yeah, it's in that area though. It's up there. No, it's in that area. Barmore is, I'm just calling it the payroll in front of me, Barmore is like 12 million guaranteed. Wenu's cap number is 25 million. So why you, did you just start doing this? When I talk about cap numbers, we're talking about the money out of Crafts Pocket. Actual cash. So there's no guaranteed money. Right. There's no guaranteed money, but what's he actually being, what does he actually do in money, Barth, is the question. It was 12 on Barmore. And the, and I believe on a Wenu, it's 16. Okay. And maybe there's, there has to be because there's, on all these, you know, roster bonuses and per game and whatever. So he's making, um, Spotrack says 17 and a half for 2026 cash from Wenu. Okay. Wenu's 17. That's the number you need to, don't worry about the cap because Craft isn't, he's worried about the money out of his pocket. Sure. Did you know, were you not listening? No, I get that. That he's the, they only allow the coaches to spend actual money that is the cap. You can go over the cap. They, Craft just uses that as some sort of artificial, which is what it is, some sort of fake artificial line of demarcation. And that's how he sets his budget. So they're, they're there. They're there. If they're going to add AJ Brown, something has to give or Craft is really going to have to reach into his pocket and overextend himself based on what he's done in the past. I'd be surprised if Wenu survives. That's a lot of money. None of it's guaranteed. Is he worth that? Probably not. Now they could also extend them and they could rework the money that way. He's in the last year of his deal with the no guarantee money. It's easier to work out an extension. Exactly. Go ahead. Where I'm at with him is I'd like to see them hold on to him, especially before the draft, because I think you're creating a massive need in your offensive line. They shouldn't be doing that. If they draft somebody in, you know, some right guard has a great camp. Maybe we have a conversation, but there is an argument you made. He's 29 years old. It's the old Bella check move on a year too early versus year too late. I'm not signing him to a five year extension. I don't think he's in the plans longterm like that. I just can't believe he's going to survive at that number. Non guaranteed number. The team is all the leverage and cut him at any moment for nothing. So maybe Wenu's here. He's not here at that number. I can't imagine. And I think Christian Barmore, and this is purely an off the field thing, is a pretty big risk of 12 million guaranteed for a guy who's that sort of dicey in terms of maturity. I don't know how I don't have these kids grown up at all. And I said, you know, that now the pages, if they really go forward with Christian Barmore, the next time he does something, they're on the hook for it. They can no longer say, Well, listen, what do you want us to do? There was no way for us to know. And, you know, it's like just not that Christian Barmore is Aaron Hernandez, but they got away with it with Aaron Hernandez because like, well, what do you want us to do? We can't follow him around 24 hours a day. And how were we to know, even though there was plenty there? But they could, you know, but with Christian Barmore, it's like, no, he's got two strikes now, the third strikes on you. And I'm just surprised that they're going forward with Christian Barmore, because I think he's a little bit of a time bomb. I still think there's a deal coming. And I'm not telling you, I think Bidaddard heard it somewhere else. Like, you know, I mean, obviously he didn't hear it from Drabel or wasn't deducing it. I mean, it wasn't part of Drabel's conversation. Unless it was off the record or, you know, whatever. But to me, look, I think there are deals to be made still on draft night. And it might be a little unusual, I guess, for guys who are under contract being swapped out. But in the case of Barmore, there'll be someone who'll take him. Would you rather have AJ Brown or Michael Wenno? AJ Brown? Definitely. AJ Brown. Definitely. Would you take out the off field stuff? Would you rather have AJ Brown or Christian Barmore? Barmore. Barmore. Barmore is a better player. He is. Yeah. And then the tandem in the middle. Yeah. And also I like the tandem of him and Milton Williams. Again, I think that was the sort of the nucleus or the core of that team. So AJ Brown puts you over Kraft's cash budget if Owenu and Barmore are on the roster. If they go, AJ Brown fits in and you've gotten your three-year number that Kraft wants. This is nothing of Christian Gonzalez. Who, again, if he would, were to sign this off season, it, the deal officially begins after year four, although he would get some upfront money. But again, we're just talking about cash. Could be even later. If they pick up the fifth year option, it could not kick in till 2028. What could not kick in until 2028? The extension. The new deal is what he's saying. But I think it's not going to work that way. He's not, Christian Gonzalez is not going to agree to a deal that starts in two years. Right. The, he had, it can, it has to wait one more year, but upfront money comes now. Right. The signing bonus comes now, which would put Kraft over his cash budget. And this is another thing you should start covering because it's the only thing that matters. It's the escrow payment. Whatever is guaranteed in Christian Barmore's contract has to be, the owner has to come up with it and it goes into an escrow account. It doesn't go to the player yet, but anything guaranteed into the future, the owner still has to come up with and take out of his other accounts and all of that. Quick question. Is the fifth year option guaranteed? Yes. It is. Yep. It's guaranteed. I, I believe the top 10. It should be. At the position, which they're going to pick up as a matter of course here in the next couple of weeks, but this all, all I'm saying is all this stuff, this money stuff, I, the more I think of it, the more unlikely that they're going to do anything with Christian Gonzalez. And I think all the tea leaves, I think they're talking around the thing as we've discussed a lot. Christian, Christian's Alice has given you the flashing the money signs and the Patriots and the owners talking about salary caps and rabels. And I don't think about the salary cap. I'll leave it to those guys and they're talking, Heming and Hawn and talking around the whole thing. Never mind all that. The numbers don't add up. Do you think they're the kind of team that would a year before they have to, a year before they have to make some, make some of the highest paid ever at his position a year before they are definitely going to make Drake May the highest paid player in the history of the most expensive position in sports a year before they have to, they're going to do that two years in a row. So Kraft was asked about it and he said, and he was asked about both deals. He wants to get them done or their philosophies to get them done sooner rather than later because I forget the exact term used economically satisfactory or something like that. I don't know if you have the exact wording. He didn't say it was their philosophy. He said, I know that that is generally what people believe. Yes. Because it's not their philosophy. They usually take these contracts to the wall. Well, if you wait on Gonzalez or you wait on May, it's going to all I'm just saying is think about it. Cost more. They're at their cash limit. Which is the thing that matters. You all know they got if you believe in cap space, they have all the cap space in the world to do this and they're not doing it. Why ask yourself, Barth, if it's about cap space, they have all the cap space in the world. Why haven't they done it yet? Well, the Gonzalez thing is nothing. It's money. It's money. It's money. It's money. It's the money out of Kraft's pocket. They have the cap space to do it. It's the money. So they're going to do this year a year before they have to and really two years before they have to early make Christians, I'll say the highest paid player in the history of an expensive position. And then next year make Drake may the highest paid player ever at the most expensive position in sports. Does that sound like them? No. Never mind. Not even close. Never mind. They're already at their budget. It doesn't even sound like them that they'll add AJ Brown unless they do something with Barmore and or a Wenu is where I'm at. So sorry for yelling at you Barthee, but you just you can't don't what I'm here for. Don't throw the captain. It's not if if it were just about the cap Gonzalez would be done. They what do they have? They have the second most cap room in the league. Do you believe in that bull crap? So why is it Gonzalez done free agencies over because they don't want to pay him free agencies over? So why is it Gonzalez being re upped if they have the cap space? For those of you who still think that's real dummies, it's the real money and they're already at the budget. Jim's not laughing at me this time. What are you laughing at? A Christian Vasquez of all people who just hit a solo shot off whatever stiff is on the red socks and the mouth of the red socks out of their suck bullpen right now. Well, what's his name? Is it Weissert? I don't know. It's um Oh, Colom Colom. Yeah, stinky Colom. I was gonna say Colombe, but Colom and if he's given up to Christian Vasquez, the red socks are waving the right flag. This what's going on here. We continue with your thoughts and he's just making facial gestures. Just did that. You can't see me. I say all right to your thoughts. I promise after Murray's 90 second update. No commercial.