Hour 2 - Why Are The Mariners Struggling On Offense, Whose Shoes, Blue 88

Get the freaking out of from the quantum fiber studio. This is Brock and sock on Seattle Sports. I don't read the Internet guy. Take the bull by the hands and brook wire. You are and brook. You are now here are your hosts Brock, you are and Mike Saul. She's got to be in it. Thirty it's his birthday tomorrow. He's turning 50 50 years old. G Scott will be in it. Eight thirty. That should be fun. Right. He's in a good mood today. He came in and was telling us talking about the whirlwind. There was G in G's. He's got stories for days, man. It's too bad they can't all go on the air, but that dude's got stories. So come in at eight thirty. Stacy's going to come by at nine o'clock. We'll open up the phone lines at the end of the day. Adam Jude did a great job yesterday, kind of explaining the what of what's going down with the Mariners offense. Right. It's been bad. You know that, like, I don't I don't I don't need to. I don't need to tell you that the Mariners offense has been good, but he came up with what four or five reasons why that's happening, like to describe what's going on. Number one, he says they're not hitting the fastball. Right. You got to be on time for the fastball and they are not. They're struggling against all types of pitches through 13 games, he said. Sliders approved, especially difficult. But for a lineup that has many home runs they did last year, it's surprising to see the persistent failings against fastballs. Collectively, they have a minus five point eight runs above average value against fastballs. That is 25th in baseball. So that's a problem. The strikeout rate is a concern. It's twenty seven point six, which is not great. In fact, it is higher than the twenty six point eight percent from a couple of years ago when they set a franchise record. They're making weak contact is another one. And then he kind of goes through all the all the different elements that could maybe give us a cause for hope that they've been a little unlucky on the batting average on balls and play. That will even out a little bit. They've paid they've played some very good pitchers. He's right. And they've done it in difficult ballparks to hit in, especially in cold weather. So yeah, I think there's a lot of reality in there, as always. Adam does a great job. I would couple of couple it with the two things I saw yesterday from our friend, Luke Arkans, who Brock often tries to treat like like an intern. But he had two things that I thought were pretty interesting. One, he says, inspired by a Shannon Dreher comment, the Mariners currently have the highest whiff rate on pitches inside the strike zone this year. That's crazy. Not chases, not pitches where they're chasing outside the zone and missing, literally just pitches in the zone that they're just swinging through and missing. Seventeen point one percent of the time. That's ugly. He adds to it. The season is young. The sample is small, but the Mariners have experienced the largest jump in strike zone whiff rate compared to last year. Brutal, brutal. They're just missing strikes. It's one thing. All right, if they were chasing, I think we'd have a little bit easier time with the why, because this is all the what, right? This is what's happening. This is the data and showing us what what the Mariners are doing wrong at the plate. But the why is the thing that is so confounding for me. If it was they were now swinging at more pitches outside the zone and missing, I think that makes logical sense. You're like, OK, they're pressing, they're swinging at too many pitches. Everybody's trying to be too aggressive and it's causing a problem. OK, like that makes intrinsic sense to me. But the Mariners swinging and missing the not just the most often, but the biggest percentage jump from last year in whiffing on pitches in the strike zone. Why would that happen? Why would you be missing fastballs? Why would you be missing pitches in the zone? Why is it so much different from last year? Maybe it is as simple as the WBC. I have probably been a little bit unwilling to go there because it feels like a bit of an excuse, but maybe I need to. Maybe maybe we maybe it is just a WBC thing. Maybe it has something to do with the pressure that they put on themselves. But again, I'm not sure I understand how that would affect their ability to hit pitches inside the strike zone. I mean, maybe they're not swinging fast enough. That's more data we've seen this week. Yeah, I mean, I guess you could put those two things together. But again, what's the why? Why aren't they swinging faster? You can't know for sure. But when it's that down across the board, doesn't it look like a bit of a philosophical approach? Because this is not the first year they've started they've started games in cold weather. Remember a few years ago in Minnesota, it was snowing. Yes, I know. Believe me, all of that is true. Like it's looking for the why is when things get so challenging in baseball. Here was John Morossey trying to come up with his answer as to why the explanation and where the struggles have come from make even less sense because it's Rodriguez, Naylor and Raleigh, the three players that you felt most certain would produce. I still believe they will produce. But I was looking today just before we started this conversation. If OK, in the case of Raleigh, if you really get the numbers and you start going through the the analytics on it, is it really deserved that he's at this point? And the numbers say, yes, it is there. There's been quite literally, if you look at the numbers on Statcast, there's been almost no hard contact, no actual what would be described as line drive, hard driven contact from him like scalded baseballs. He was one of the best in the sport last year to this point. Again, it's early days, 13 games. But he's been one of the worst in the sport this year. Yeah. And again, those three hitters in the middle of their lineup are the three that have had the biggest challenge. I don't know that you could come up with three more different different players. It's not like they've they've carbon copied it at two, three and four, and they're all having the same problem. Right. I mean, Cal's a home run boomer bust kind of guy is not going to hit for a high average. Julio can do a little bit of everything and Nailer, honestly, is more of a contact guide and strike out a whole lot. And yet all three of them have no ability to hit the ball right now. I don't know how to explain all that. I really don't. I don't I don't have a good why I'm trying, just like everybody is. Lyle, I think you're you're on to potentially something there with an organizational philosophy and trying to do a little something different. I'll see if I can dig around on that one a little bit, just because maybe, right? I mean, maybe the WBC has messed these guys up and they're just their timing is off. Two oh six. Is it possible they're worn down from last year? Yes. Toronto's not playing well either, but. Like the Dodgers are. The Yankees are. I like it's possible. Sure, it's absolutely possible that they're worn down from last year. Does that feel like the reason why they're starting slow? Two five three just says the timing is off. Yeah. But again, why? Why is that affecting them more than everybody else? Well, if you're doing research, right? Like the large sample size is what makes you think that there's something going on across the board with the with the bat with the bats. Yes. In that one, I will agree. There does seem to be something going on there. But just the entirety of the struggles and the one that blows me away is the and it's similar to what Jude said. I mean, they just sort of attacking the same problem from two different directions. One is missing fastballs and not hitting fastballs. The other is just missing pitches inside the strike zone. Maybe they need to talk to Cole Young about what he did with fastballs because he's hitting them. No problem. Yeah, so weird. You know, last year, they were a team that I think we would have said struggled more against the breaking ball. And maybe that was some of the organizational philosophy trying to adjust to the problems they had and trying to fix the problem. But unfortunately, it may have created a new one. And I don't know. I honestly don't know what to tell you guys. I don't have a good answer on this. You know, for years, they've tried different things to try to deal with the slow starts and the cold weather. Maybe the lower the slower swing speed is a is a legitimate attempt to try to go the other way and saying, all right, if you slow down your swing and try to go the other way more often, the line drives that will occur are going to be enough to help with the marine layer. Maybe that's the plan. If it is, it's not working. If it is, you know, unleash the hounds, damn the torpedoes, let them go. Just start swinging hard and seeing what happens. Because as bad as we've seen some of the other starts, this one is offensively arguably worse than any of them. So I don't know what the answer is. I really don't. I think the what makes a lot of sense. I don't fully understand the why. I think all we know is that it's going to change quick because you want to see this team start hitting now. All of that being said, all of that being said, I got, I got two pieces of sound from this radio station from yesterday that raise an entirely different question about the struggles the mariners have had already. I'll play those for you coming up in 20 after everything you need to know next. Highlights don't win games. The full box score does. I'm Brock Huard and most business leaders aren't short on data. They're short on clarity. Numbers are scattered across ERP, CRMs and spreadsheets, making decisions reactive instead of confident. And that's not how great businesses are built. Marquee IQ brings all your data together into one clear view, even if it lives in disconnected systems or offline so you can see what's really happening and act faster. Stop running your business on highlights. Get the full picture. Visit data.TheWinds.com to see what Marquee IQ can do. 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Need to know 15 minutes past every hour with Brocken Salk. Presented by Marquis Data. Here's what you need to know. Up first. I've been a little bit of a frustrating beginning to this season for the Mariners, but they'll get back out there to start a new series this weekend. They come back home for a four-gamer against the Astros who have not been pitching well at all. So hopefully a cure for the ailing bats here in Seattle. It'll be Emerson Hancock on the mound first. He's been arguably their best pitcher. So far he'll be followed tomorrow by Logan Gilbert. And then you kind of go from, I'm sorry, by Luis Castillo, then Logan Gilbert, then George Kirby. So that's your four some four this weekend series. Yeah, Brian Kenny on the station yesterday, trying to understand what it is that has happened so far this year. Yankees have been a surprise to me where they look excellent, you know, not just OK and contending, but they look like the class of the league. But I thought Seattle would be right there. And I think most people about a week and a half ago felt that. So it's a surprise, but you're right. It's funny, I spoke to San Francisco Radio a few days ago, and I'd seen the Giants play poorly against the Mets and yet they were so down and so panicked. I'm like, easy. It's like two weeks. Like, yeah, they had a bad game. It's a bad weekend. So yeah, there's too much talent here and too much young talent. So it's not like it's aging right in front of you. And it's like it's crazy April early right now. It is crazy April early. That's a great way of saying it. It is April 10th today. It is crazy, crazy April early. But those numbers are pretty staggering when you go through all of the swing and miss and all the challenges that they've had offensively. And you don't want to get too far behind the eight ball. So four nine, not necessarily a huge issue. You know, take three out of four this weekend, right? And doesn't everything feel a whole lot better? You get at that point to eight and 10 and you're like, all right, a couple of games below 500 and off you go and everything just sort of normalizes. So they're not that far off of everything being fine, but you do have to get there. They saw a little drop in the power rankings on ESPN yesterday. Started the year at second, dropped a third. Now they're seventh. That sounds about right and probably represents the respect that everyone still has for this roster that needs to start playing like it. Here's the second thing you need to know. But here's assesses scores a beautiful goal. Wow. Yeah, that one was good. This one was even better. Berkeley captain, the first shootout opportunity of his young national hockey league career. Here comes the kid. What a goal. The little cat gets it done and the cracker up by one. The little cat, Berkeley cat and getting it done in the shootout. It was the fourth round of the shootout as well as it just kept going. And he finally put things away a day after announcing their big change in the front office, the crack and snap there losing streak. There were some interesting moments and I wouldn't say he like outplayed them throughout the game, but they got it done. They stave off illumination though, probably just for one night. It'll probably happen later tonight, but that's OK. Team president Todd Laiwiki meeting with the media yesterday, trying to explain the decision to move on from Ron Francis and essentially just saying that what they've had results wise has not been acceptable. As for what comes next, we talked to Greg Wyshinski yesterday about Jason Baderall, who will now take over. I have more faith in him to maybe be the guy to successfully take some big swings with the organization than I would with some of the other candidates. You might want to bring in for a G.A. or president of hockey operations that I think are in the retread category. He's always struck me as a guy with a vision and I've been eager to see what he could do with better resources and better ownership support, which he didn't have in Buffalo. I mean, that being said, I mean, we haven't talked about sort of what I think is the elephant in the room, which is this team really needs to start moving ahead and be a contender and and and, you know, plant its flag as far as like what it is. Yeah, the hard part is he went on to say the best way to do that is to take a step back and actually get worse before getting better. So obviously a bit of a challenge trying to figure out the right direction forward for these Kraken is they're about to be eliminated. It'll be four out of five years now that they haven't made the playoffs. And obviously you got the Sonics coming. You got a busy sports landscape here. All of those things, I'm sure, are weighing heavily on the minds of Todd Laiwiki and the rest of the Kraken ownership group. Here's the third day you need to know. John Schneider is inside of two weeks now and is getting pretty close to being ready for the draft, as he told women and Bob yesterday. The Scouts are back in. We have our local day today. So we have 40 guys finishing up here today. Yeah, we have a pretty clear picture of what the board looks like. We'll be getting what the coach is next weekend. This is always really cool weekend when the Scouts are in study because the Masters is going, we got it going all day. And it's like, it's just awesome. Like you're kind of like narrowing in on what it's going to look like and listening to all the guys just have like, you know, you hear their passion. I like we can deal with this guy or we can't deal with this guy. I don't feel good about this. Like let somebody else have them. That sort of thing. Like. Well, he mentions the Masters going on. He's right. It is. Sam Burns, Rory McElroy, co-leaders. Neither have teed off yet today. He was Rory talking about his five under round yesterday. For me, over the last 10 years here, it was I was chasing, trying to win the Masters, but I was also chasing the Grand Slams. Of course. It was the two things that I've, you know, it really sort of teed up on the first tee today and not have that. I still felt nerves. I still felt the anxiety that I always feel when I teed up here for the first time. And but I just feel like I settled into the round really nicely. And when I hit it in the trees a few times on the front line, it was like, you know what, it's OK, I'll figure it out, make a par, move on. So certainly a different feeling today. And hopefully that continues. Let's say, as I mentioned, Burns and McElroy leading. Not a lot of movement so far this morning. Wyndham Clark has dropped a couple of strokes and moved up the leaderboard. He's now at three under. Aaron Rye is now at two under. Jordan Spieth gets to one under. Let's see how long that lasts. Man, he was bizarre yesterday. Just a typical Jordan day. Tune in on 18. You see Jordan walking into a tree through the bushes. I thought he was on his way to Narnia. The next thing you know is like, ah, par. This is after making a bunch of bad bogeys. That guy's so frustrating. I love him so much. That's everything you need to know. Quarter past every hour here on the Brock and Sulk show. I really do love him, Mara. I don't know that it's ever going to be paid off, but I do love the man. One day I've worked with you. Yeah, you've had hope for him. You talk about him a little legiant. Each tournament. Well, he's my favorite athlete in the world. He's number one. He's my number one favorite athlete in all of sports. And when he was at his prime, there was nothing more fun. It was so fun. And then it all came crashing down, and it just has not been the same since. 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There's Humpe on my shoulder. And yeah, I'm bringing one home for Cecily, who specifically requested a Humpe deal, but is not going to be around this weekend. So if you are around, you can be one of the first, what is it, 10,000 people or so. And you can get a Humpe plushie, which is pretty sweet. That's tomorrow. And the Ichiro one is tonight. So go over to the ballpark and there's some pretty cool stuff. Now I am going more has got a game that we're going to play in a few minutes before she does. I'm going to play you these two pieces of sound. Cause this is kind of mind blowing. Obviously the hitting has not been great for the Mariners, but two different people are making an argument that the bigger problem or at least as big a problem is the pitching, which is really bizarre. But listen to this. It's next on Brocken cell. Highlights don't win games. The full box score does. I'm Brock cured and most business leaders aren't short on data. They're short on clarity. 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I mean, I think it is, but this did sort of jump out to me yesterday. Brian Kenny and Jesse Rogers, both joining the station, not on our show, but on the other two shows and both of whom had something to say about Mariner pitching. And, you know, Brock was saying yesterday, well, I look at the Mariners pitching and they're what, number two or something in the RA. And he's like, I know it's an older stat, but still it tells a pretty good story. And I'm like, yeah, absolutely. The pitching's been great. Well, listen to Brian Kenny and then more importantly, listen to Jesse Rogers. This was Brian Kenny yesterday. Every time I heard, I love Seattle pitching. That's the best pitching rotation in the game. I would look and I'd say, well, again, I know there's a lot of noise in the RA, but if you're in a pitchers park, you actually have to have superior run prevention and I haven't seen that. I've seen a lot of, you know, guys that you see, oh, high strikeout rate. Yeah, but at a certain point you are somewhat responsible for the runs you allow. So I thought actually their park adjusted ERAs did not warrant the rep. They did not match up to the reputation. There were issues last year on the road for the Mariners pitching staff, right? There were. I mean, we talked there. Brian Wu was really the one guy who last year was immune, Luis Castillo to an extent. But really it was Brian Wu, who was the one guy that was immune from the park factor splits when they were playing at home versus when they were pitching on the road. We know that T-Mobile Park suppresses offense. Obviously it does something to help the pitching. And that has been a great benefit to this Mariners pitching staff. There's no doubt. As for whether or not they're not that good, I don't know, that felt a bit strong to me. But I actually thought this from Jesse Rogers was a little bit more interesting and maybe more telling in terms of what's happened so far this year. What are you doing in the moments when the game can turn and Seattle is dead last on the mound? Dead last. Like Andrews Munoz gives up that 10th inning home run. Like he's going to be really good, but that's a moment that lost the game, right? So it's really interesting to see you go to that column sometimes because it gives you the numbers inside the numbers. Because if you're creating offense or ERA when the game's out of hand, that's not as meaningful. When the games in the moment that you need to throw a pitch, you've got to come through. And the Mariners have not done that so far, but we know they will. It goes, it's almost like what I said about their hitting. It's going to come around. The Mariners have a good pitching infrastructure. They will pitch in big moments better than they have so far. So his point here to sort of help understand that is the pitching stat he's talking about is win probability added WPA. I don't want to get too deep into it, but I think you can understand what it means win probability added. And what he's saying is the Mariners are last in that category. Their pitching staff is last in win probability added. Meaning while the overall numbers are good, their performance in the highest leverage situations when it matters the most has not been good. Now, you could look at that and say bad luck. In fact, a lot of people would, especially in a small sample size, you'd say, yeah, over time, that's going to normalize. If you're a good pitcher, yeah, you might have given up some hits at bad moments, but that is probably more fluke than it is. Then it is, you know, something that's going to repeat. I don't know what it is, but for whatever reason, they're not performing well in one run games. And while obviously the offense has been the biggest part of that, obviously some of the execution and big moments and some of the little things that they haven't done include the defense and that has been a part of it. It's a team game. And I think what you're hearing from Jesse Rogers there is so far, at least, put the pitching staff in there as well, even though they've been good overall, they haven't been good in the biggest moments. Their leverage moments that change the game have all gone against them. So it is a team effect that everyone is contributing to this right now. All of that, again, is what none of it necessarily explains the why. Other than what he says at the end, it's still so early that the odds are that all that stuff is going to turn back around. And hopefully that starts tonight with Houston in town for four. We will spend some time later this morning talking to G Scott. We'll talk to Stacy Ross as well. But right now we're going to play a fun game of whose shoes. All right, I really just wanted to play this today. I do. I wanted to play because I wanted to hear a little bit of Lord's of the Underground. Yeah. I love Lord's of the Underground. The Lord's the Lord. He come the Lord. We had a text earlier from someone thanking you for introducing them to Felikoudi. Yeah, that was nice of me. You're to help. Well, let me introduce you to Lord's of the Underground. Yeah, it's good stuff. Listen to this song. Listen to sleep for dinner. Listen to, well, I mean, listen to Chief Ross. Well, I mean, listen to Chief Rock is like the ultimate. Great song. OK, what do we got? Whose shoes would I rather being Miles Garrett or Max Krosby? I would. Man, that's a really hard question. Good. I try. I'm going to pull up Mike McDonald's 17 second pause here. I'd rather be in Max Krosby's. Now I'd rather be a Miles Garrett shoes. Man, that was really hard. I would rather. Here's the ultimately the reason. Unfortunately for Max, he's now tainted with the injury problem. True. Everyone's going to wonder. Yeah. And he's still. Yeah, that's that's going to be out there. On the other hand, he's not in a horrific situation right now, which is why I was leaning his way like Miles Garrett is just trying to get out of the worst situation in sports, playing for the Cleveland Browns. I definitely have more hope for the Raiders and the Browns. Exactly. But ultimately, I don't really have any hope for either of them. And I would just rather be Miles Garrett. So I'm going to go. I would rather be a Miles Garrett shoes. Well. Yeah, I'll say Max Krosby, because like you said, if you have to pick a situation to be in, you got Clint Kubiak there now, who he knows a good coach, you're about to have the number one pick and get Fernando Mendoza. So I'll say Krosby. Also, if I just had to experience life as one of those two people for a day, I'd rather be Miles Garrett than Max Krosby. Oh, OK. I just think it would be more like literally to be Miles Garrett for a day. You imagine walking around being built like that. Well, sure. And Miles Garrett at this point is one of the greatest defensive ends of all time. Right. But Max Krosby is a really good player, but like I don't want to walk around and Max Krosby shoes. I want to be a Miles Garrett shoes. I'm going to be more fun. But at the same time, again, I'm going with Krosby because better situation in Vegas, but I thought you were going to go this route. I'd rather be in Vegas than Cleveland. Well, that's also true. Good point. But if I had Miles Garrett money, I'd be just fine going to Vegas whenever I wanted. He's got to get out of Cleveland. He's got to come to Seattle, man. Bring Miles Garrett to Seattle. Thank you more. What's the shoe? The shoe's got to be the shoes. All right. Next up, Jason Botterill or Lane Lambert. All right. So that's a cracking GM, Jason Botterill or cracking coach. Lane Lambert. I mean, I'd rather be in Botterill shoes, because at least he's got the ability to go do something. Lane Lambert's job, unfortunately, is entirely dependent on what Jason Botterill does and whether or not the guy gets him any star power, any any horsepower. Yeah, I'm going to go. I think both will end up keeping their jobs, although, you know, Todd did not exactly say that was for certain with Lane Lambert. I think that they want to try to get him more help and see what happens in year two. But I would say I'd rather be in Jason Botterill's shoes. You just get a little bit longer of a leash when you're at the GM. And I think he's more in control of his own future and destiny than Lane Lambert is. People want to know how to spell fellow cootie. It's not fellow cutie. No. Fela, second word, KUTI. Yeah. All right. I thought of this one because Brock's been taking his kids on a lot of college visits recently. And then Kyle, our boss started asking a lot of questions about how many college visits he went on. So would you rather be on college visits with Brock Heward or Lyle Goldstein? No. Neither? No, I don't want to go into college with either of them. Brock, going on a college visit with Brock is like having a school marm with you. Like I don't need Brock judging me and how I'm handling the way I personally would identify which college I would want to go to. What question? And I don't need Lyle looking at me funny every time I want to go try the food. What were you interested to actually see on the campus? Well, it is you, the journalism school, for sure. Lyle wanted to just make sure all the classes were online so we didn't have to go to any of the classrooms. I mean, yeah, add that into. What was most important to you? No, the online classic. No, I'm kidding. The weather. Honestly, yeah, it was a combination of the journalism school being a good program and like having some of the things that I wanted to dive into it being in a good area with things to do and opportunities around. Did you do like an overnight visit? No, we just went for the day. OK. I did an overnight visit at Pomona. It was fun. Yeah. Yeah. Our orientation was just during the day. But when I did that and whatever it was May before we started in mid August. But yeah, like, for example, like I looked at Washington State pretty heavily, too, but I think one of the things that really put ASU over the top was journalism school was a little more modern and advanced, in my opinion. Plus, there was just so much more to do in the area with like more pro sports, spring training, college sports were. You got to stop talking about it, though, because I think that Arizona State doesn't want you continuing to talk about being a graduate of their school. No. No, I think they're embarrassed. I don't think they want this kind of publicity. I don't know. All right. That one was kind of just for Salk since you were included in it as an option. Yeah. Next up, Colt Emerson or Emerson Hancock, whose shoes? I'd rather be in Colt Emerson's shoes. I just got paid $95 million and my future is pretty set. I like what Emerson Hancock has done, but he's going to have to continue to prove it. By the way, Lyle with some good points on Colt Emerson in our email last night, because I know we've seen a lot of bring up Colt Emerson, bring up Colt Emerson. And I talked a little bit about it yesterday that that could end up being the thing. Lyle, give me your numbers from yesterday because I think they're very relevant. So let me preface it with this. I do not think this is going to continue because Colt Emerson has never been a guy that's shown he's had issues with these numbers. But as we sit 10 games in into coma, he's currently walking 2% of the time and he's striking out over 32% of the time. So for anybody out there that's saying, oh, just bring him up right now. No, no, they're not going to do that. 2% is that even possible? Has he had 50 at bats yet? Just means he hasn't drawn many walks. Yeah. But like if he's had one walk, he would need 50 at bat. Like 50 played it here. Maybe he's had 50. 2.7% was the number. That's crazy yesterday. Wow. But you do realize that rounds the three, right? Not two. Well, sure. But the number starts with two. So I said two. That's not how that works. He's had 39 at bats. But OK, the number is 2.7. All right. So it says whatever. I said that would be three. Whatever. Point being, he needs a little more time. All right. I agree. Anyway, thank you. What was the strikeout rate? 39 at bats, one walk. And how many strikeouts? Strikeout rates over 32. Yes, that's not going to do. 12 strikeouts. Not going to do it. Not going to work. Again, I'm almost positive this will not continue. But this is why I keep saying Memorial Day-ish. That sounds right. You and I are exactly on the same page. I'm just making fun of you for talking about your college all the while, not understanding how to round numbers. Whatever. Starts with a two. I said two. That's Lyle. You're the best. OK, that is whose shoes for today. Maura did have one other. She was asking Kobe Bryant, Ken Walker, Boy Maffee or Rick Woolen. I got to remember where all of them are. It's like hard to remember. Ken Walker, I know, is in Kansas City. Rick is in Philly. Kobe is in. Where's Kobe Bryant? Chicago. And Boy went to Cleveland. No, Cincinnati. This one's decently easy for me. It's probably Ken Walker. Yeah, I mean, just you're going to go play for a guy that's going to figure out how to use you. Well, and you're lining up next to Patrick Holmes ever now. That seems like a pretty, yeah, that's an easy answer. But Kobe might be second for me getting to go play in Chicago. That seems like a cool deal. Young team that's building something up that actually looks pretty decent. So that would probably be my other answer. Thank you, Mora, a great job with some who's shoes and an opportunity to play some Lords of the Underground and Brock will join us now for Blue 88. This is Brock and Sock's Blue 88. We're going to go red, right, tight, close, sprint left, G, U-corner, half back, flat, on one, on one. Ready? Brock Hewitt tackles three football questions as only he can. Boo, and yay. Now here's your hosts, Brock Hewitt and Mike Sock. Good morning, buddy. Good morning, Salkie. How are you? I'm doing great. Where we find you this morning? K-State? Where am I this morning? This morning, I am in Stillwater, Oklahoma. Oh, nice. Yes. From Manhattan to Stillwater to Lovec, the old triangle, Salkie, putting some put in some miles on the road. You got any news for us today? Probably be inside this. There's going to be news in about 13 minutes. 13 minutes. Yes. At the top of the hour, there's going to be some news. OK. And then you can share it in the next week to know. All right, 8.15. Stick to now. All right. Stay tuned for news at 8.15. Molly is Craig Ness with. Whoa. I don't know how. Yes. Whoa. Easy. I just broke the news. That's not true. That's not that's not it. All right, Brock, three good football questions. You ready, buddy? I'm ready, I think. I'll start here. John Schneider, his process. I thought this was kind of interesting yesterday. This was John Schneider with Wyman and Bob. It's a little bit of a longer cut, but take a listen to kind of where they're at right now as it turned as it as it relates to the medicals. Made mistakes we have. We've learned our lessons over the years, like, like where to, like how far, you know, where to take the player or the person. And that's part of it, too. Like Sam and, you know, David Strickland and Docs, too. Like they're evaluating the person, too. Like they're helping us evaluate. And we have like these 30 guys in here and these visits, getting physicals and everything. And at the combine, they're helping us evaluate all these guys. So it's like, well, what was your impression? Is he a tough guy? Is he going to push through? Was he not going to push through? So it's it's really like, like, yeah, like how do we sometimes, sometimes I think we've we've just and it was it was definitely early on. We just were like, OK, thanks. Like guys are really good player and it didn't work out. But it goes the other way, too. And that's what's fun about being able to give Sam and, you know, Dr. Ed and those guys some crap, too. It's like, oh, so I think I told you, like Brett Farmer was supposed to fail his physical when he was traded to the game. The Packers and Ron Wolfson, like, now he's not going to fail his physical. And he starts up 298 games or whatever in real, right? How important is their process? Yeah, it's tremendously important. And it's the one thing like when you just impression, right? If you if you were to hang out with John Schneider on a golf course or at Dino's or at a movie and he loves movies, I don't think you'd walk away and go that guy is the most disciplined every minute of every day has structure yet. Yet the structure of their program and their process is extraordinary. He went further with the guys yesterday. And I love these Snyder shows. You should not miss any of them. He shares more than most GMs do. A couple of weeks from the draft, he gives you great insight always. And he just talked about, well, yeah, like this weekend, you know, we'll have the coaches in or next week and the coaches in and then, you know, that kind of finalizes it. But he takes in all this different inputs from the doctors, from the trainers, from the psychologists from a Tuesday with Mike McDonald. That's the final meeting. He said, we're the final like game plan fully is crystallized, comes into play. So if I kick off Thursday night with that draft, I'm good to go. I feel fully confident in everything. So it just it just struck and strikes me as it always does. What does it mean to John? Who's like the greatest, most fun loving dude there is. But there is a stern process. There is a very strict procedure. So you eliminate emotion and that old line, right? There's no emotion in business. This business, this big business, big acquisition and his ability to eliminate emotion, I really firmly believe comes from there. Just very strict process. Yeah. I thought you were going to go towards time on task too, because it feels like that one is obviously important as well. It's taken them time to kind of work through all this. And that is an advantage having done this this many times. There is no question about that. And it also comes to trust. You know, I tell people like there's some in my old profession, Mike, that would do production meetings with coaches and not want anybody around. Like, no, no, no, I want to sit with coach because I get more out of coach than just a one on one. Well, bull crap. What about what Jason Benedetti is going to hear and the intuition that Allison is going to hear and all for years of experience and Bo and Darren and everybody in the room, like you don't want their ears. You don't want their perception. You don't want their read their gut because it may be different than yours. And you need, I think, all of those different experiences and voices. And John trusts everybody around him really, really at a high level. All right. Question number two. Another one from the John Schnapp on you, by the way. I just dropped the bull crap. Yeah, thank you. Appreciate that. Yeah. I mean, it's only 750. It's time. When was the last time you said bull crap? I probably never said that because I'm not a loser, but, you know, we all have differences. That's fine. Brock, another one from the John Schneider show yesterday. He was asked to list some of the other franchises that he felt were the most aligned with the Seahawks philosophically. Oh, good question. Which ones do you think he said? Hmm. That is a that's a good question. I think he would go certainly to the old Baltimore Ravens with Ozzie Newsom, in particular, it's cost, it seems to be a bit much. I would think he would point to Green Bay. Green Bay has done it a long time. That's where he he cut his teeth. Does he point to Les Mead and Sean McBay down in L.A. as well? I think there's some parallel in the way they do business. Those would be a few. Take a listen to John. I don't know if it's a grading system, but the Ravens have always drafted similar. We've always said, you know, they're like, we've heard from them. They've heard from us like, how are you going to take, you know, Sean Penney and you get to talk about her, whatever. You know, we're back, you know, similar, like back and forth with that. Where it is right now. I mean, like, I mean, Jason lights a close friend of mine, General Manager for Tampa Bay, been doing a long time. And there's a bunch of guys that you just, you know, George Payton in Denver, known forever. Oh, shoot, I'm missing people now. Yes, but like, but there's there's guys that, yeah, you're kind of like, dang, like, I don't want to talk to you. Before you're asked, because I don't want to lie to you, you know, right? Well, I don't lie. I just don't tell the just don't tell me lies. Lies of omission. Yeah, there you go. Lies of omission. Yeah, that makes sense. Those two make sense in the relationship there, I think with Peyton and light that have been doing it like he has for decades. Right. Peyton did it in the system in Minnesota with Spielman, but but he's been around the game a long time. Light's been around it a long time. And that one, instead of time on task, that one falls into the silo of yeah, I like doing business. You know, I do business with people I enjoy doing business with. Right. And he's got a lot of those folks around the way. All right. Question number three comes from a text early morning, 522 a.m. This text came in from the 206. What? Brock and Sulk. Morning, everyone. I know it's early, but if the giants take love early in the draft, could the Seahawks inquire about Camp Scataboo for a late round pick from next year's draft? Hmm. No, I don't. I don't think so. Hey, I don't. I don't think the giants are going to move on from a guy that's a that's a legend already out there in New York and their skill sets are very different. Jeremiah is so explosive and Scataboo is just a just a banger. Right. Just a meathead catches the ball really well and does many other things. But now, no, I don't think the giants would do that yet. Tremendous value is a mid round pick for them for the next few years. And then even, you know, just kind of skill set wise as we talk about, right? He's more in the camp of the Holonies. He's a double hitter. He's not going to ever be a real home run explosive threat. So, no, I don't think so. I appreciate the idea and the thought of 525 in the morning, but I wouldn't go there. Yeah, I don't pretty a liar. Just not a fit. Yeah. I don't know. Just not a fit as much as I like. I'm going to be fine. Lyle would love it. I was excited this morning when we brought it up. All right, that is today's blue 88. Pretty cool. The overnight text toy a little different, obviously, without a Mariner game. Actually, it was actually pretty similar. It was not as different as you would think. Still pretty angry and still had a lot to say. Yeah. Yeah. No, there was a suggestion on the overnight text toy that I did not necessarily think we had any evidence of it, so I couldn't buy into it. But I thought it was interesting and idealist wondering if the Mariner clubhouse was in sort of a post 2014 Super Bowl Seahawk spot where Pete made the decision at the end of that Super Bowl and it drove everybody crazy versus Dan and some of the challenges, especially in game seven of the ALCS. And it was an interesting idea, but I've just seen zero, no evidence whatsoever to suggest that anyone in that building had any problem with it whatsoever. Yeah. And remember the process of football versus baseball. Okay. Football, you have that. And then you, then you've got spring and OTAs and mini camps and training. You got so much versus baseball is like, okay, it's over. And then you rip the band-aid off and you don't get together again until spring training. Like, you know, you just, you kind of, you don't linger. It doesn't linger. It just, you flush it kind of like baseball has to do night in and night out. It doesn't linger. This four and nine start better not linger. Right. They better flush it with the off day yesterday and get back to get back to work and get back to winning some.com baseball games beginning tonight. All right. Sounds pretty good. All right. News coming out. It sounds like very soon I will try to report it Brock and need to know in about 20 minutes. Thank you. We will see you on Monday and I'll come back here with for you in review next.